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Speaker 1: What's he throughout the impossible or whatever I may have,

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the improbable must be true?

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Speaker 2: Then it is not a question of the liberocultism.

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as a host of them souls.

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Speaker 4: Telophaps, my father, spirit dude for a certain termed or

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the old gods aren't dead, and what is the

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true God when he's dead?

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Speaker 3: You can't complain.

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Speaker 2: People assume the time is a strict progression of cause

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to effect, but actually from a nonlinear, non subjective viewpoint,

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it's more like a big ball of wibby wobbly thymy

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wymy stuff.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Paranormal UK Radio.

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Speaker 1: Hi everybody, this is Iron Alan Block, the host of

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the parent No UK radio show. And I've gone blank

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now on your name.

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Speaker 5: You said that I knew it. Well, it wouldn't be

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one of our shows if you didn't forget my name,

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even what we're on thirteen years now we've known each

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Speaker 1: It's too complicated. It's too complicated because you throw me up,

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I said saying that, just put a blank completely on me.

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Speaker 5: Mark john How easy is that to remember?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Marchael farcl Johnson.

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Speaker 5: No, yes, So are you.

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Speaker 1: Having another mark on it? He also has thrown me Mark,

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Well, you don't have to keep calling me by my name?

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So why don't we go ahead and get right into

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the show and our guest tonight, speaking of Marx. His

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name is Mark Beale and he's a hypnotherapist specializing in

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past life, between life regression and spirit releasement. He's given

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over five thousand regression sessions as a practitioner since two

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thousand and six. As a teacher, he has tens of

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thousands of students for his video courses and mentors and

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certifies advanced students in spiritual regression therapies through his Past

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Life Awakening Institute. He is the author of Past Life Awakening,

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seven Regression Case Studies illustrate seven spiritual Laws. So welcome

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Speaker 3: Thanks good to be here, Mike, Well, thank you for

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Speaker 1: Oh can you can you hypnotize me to remember his name. Please.

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Speaker 3: Hypnosis can do magic, but I can't do everything.

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Speaker 5: Oh well, like I said, it wouldn't be us if

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we didn't have these kind of technical issues.

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Speaker 1: You see in the office, I've got I've got it

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written on the wall, Mark Johnson.

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Speaker 5: Do you have it? You have a picture of a

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jackass and my name written under it. That's right there,

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we go. See, this is what you're in for today, Mark. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So, uh, tell us a bit about yourself as we

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get started, and what got you into being a hypnotherapist

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and working with past lives and any other things you do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I'm fifty two now and I've been doing

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doing nothing else, just hypnotizing people all day and going

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back to past lives. And so I started it at

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thirty two, and I got into it. I had an

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awakening basically around twenty four, twenty five. So I had

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a conventional background before that. I got a finance economics degree,

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and I felt and I didn't have necessarily an inclination

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towards healing until I went on a meditational treat at

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spontaneous regression. I was trying to be in hypnosis and

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experience or in meditation and have meditative states, but I

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accidentally spontaneously experienced what I'd call hypnotic states, and that's

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what got the ball rolling. And then there's a whole

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integration process before going full time.

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Speaker 5: Fantastic, and you've done how many? How many different regressions

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significant issues, which is to a lot of people do

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in their life, and so the purpose of it is

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those pains and heal them so they can be more

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somebody has a very bad phobia, and then you can

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and usually the person comes out of it not having

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around him and creating problems as well. So there's a

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revealing what's actually happening. And then it turns out the

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word buzzing. Did you mean because buzzing, yes and fast?

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attachments that just sort of metaphorically buzz around and for example,

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keep people awake. So if people have bad dreams, they

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may be sort of buzzing on the on them psychologically

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as opposed and bees can be buzzing around you, like

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there's nothing to be seen, but I knew it was

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word buzzing, it just triggered that back to those days,

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into between lives. But what I found and the one

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but what what what was going on with that?

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Speaker 1: It was very very dark and tis haunts in this

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place that had to be moved. You can't destroy and

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Speaker 1: Mind to them. And I was answers in my.

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Speaker 1: Something One called me stupid old woman?

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Speaker 3: Right there? You go. That sounds familiar. But they often

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Speaker 1: Get very far with me exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well they'll say stuff to me like, you know,

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if you you're not good enough to be able to

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Speaker 3: That was That was all I was thinking of. Is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the opposite.

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like I'm going to you know, I could last building

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to pieces. That's what it feels like, the amount of

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energy that rises inside of my body. I think it's

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that that they pick up on that they don't like it.

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how how does it does that? Does that? I don't

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like it?

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know that I am creating or I'm put. Now, it's

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like an animal, isn't it? If you if you're a

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if you're stern or anything, or if you look at

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a dog, or how can I explain it? If it's

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the way you stand, the way you put your energy

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and everything which makes that by you or just you

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or whatever or buye you.

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with with dogs and so. And it's like if you

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if you take one step back, if you run, the

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dog will chase you in repute pieces if you take

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if you take one step back, the dog will come

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at you and keep barking lost exactly. If you hold

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your ground, you're doing okay. But if you take a

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step forward, you take a step forward and even you know,

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come yeah. And but even then little tactics like you know,

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you can like just grab it by the back of

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the neck and mold it or or you know, stand

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over it, or you know, you pick it up and

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throw it around, you know, like I just I sort

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of grab them like two handles, like the back and

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the front. I lived in India for years, so I've

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had a lot of experience with street dogs. But it

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really does follow through with spirits, and so I sort

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of be like the like I'm so unreactive. It's almost

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like they think, oh God, this guy's a psycho. He's

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he's like so calm and so cutting in the way

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that he's coming back at me. So yeah, So like

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there's a lot you can sort of go mad dog

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on them, or you can just be like so calm.

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go for the you know that the super calm, but

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also taking steps forward and and Mike because they're trying

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to mind game us, and and I just sort of you.

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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, one, yeah, they do love messing with the mind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But I think you're I think you'd find me a

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very interesting subject to tell you the truth.

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Speaker 3: Well, do you have things that like attached to you

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or yeah, I mean if you had attachments that you're

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aware of.

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Speaker 1: I have had a attachment, but I don't allow attachments.

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I'm very very h Yeah, I don't know this. I can't.

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Mark could explain it more, or my books could explain

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it more than I can explain it. Sorry about the

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froggy throat, everybody, but I'm finally difficult talking today. But that.

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Speaker 3: Makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I went to a hypnotist. I must tell you this.

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I went to a hypnotist. Oh huh. The reason, there's

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the reason why I got froggy throat. It's medical. I

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went to a hypnotist once years and years ago to

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stop smoking. And this hypnotists done nothing about take me

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through my death scene into a previous life, but before

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I was born in that life, I had to explain.

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He tried to get me to explain what I was seeing,

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what was happening before I came back as someone else,

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And he took me through several lives and each one

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each after each death scene, what are you seeing now,

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what you're feeling? Can you see anything? And I wasn't

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telling him. I was just stump, was not meant to

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saying a word. And then he brings me back into

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a birth scene and then I started, you know, telling

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him who I was whatever what. But as soon as

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that person that one died and he took me back

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into wherever hell heaven depends on what's out there or

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a different dimension or whatever. I just piped out. I

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just climbed up, totally climbed up and wouldn't tell him

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but his whole thing that he was so intent on

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trying to find out if there was something there, and

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he thought I would give him the answer anyway. He

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was meant to be stopping me from smoking. When I

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left there, I came out and oh, in the very

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last five minutes, he turned around and tried to say

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on me that I wouldn't want a cigarette anymore. I

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don't like the taste of cigarettes because while you're under hypnosis,

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I don't know whether this is right with you, but

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you are still aware of something. If somebody moved in

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a room, you will hear it. If an aeroplane went over,

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you will hear it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, for the most part.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Well, in the last five minutes he was

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trying to tell me and I didn't want a cigarette.

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I didn't like the taste of them, this, that and

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the other. And I came out of there and by

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the time I got to his front gate, I lit

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up a cigarette.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That was.

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Speaker 1: The whole thing. Was more important to him than anything else.

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I was trying to find out what happened between life and.

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Speaker 5: Death without your permission.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it was a.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, Mark Well.

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Speaker 3: I said that I was a practitioner for seven years

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and very quickly became a teacher and trainer. And this

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is why, because for seven years I'd listened to people's

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saying this is what happened to me when I went

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to a hypnotherapist or a past life therapist, and I said,

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I'm furious that people are doing such a bad job

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in my profession. That I must be a trainer so

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I can train people and they can do a good job,

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not this kind of stuff. So that's why I became

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a trainer very early.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was anti charge me money, but it was

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all for his own you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's also like you know what that, like

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I mentioned, there are professionals and there are amateurs or hobbyists.

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And to be even like even to me, I offer

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programs of three to five sessions because for me, I

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feel having a beginning, middle, and end and being able

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to follow up and follow through is important. And that's

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to me a characteristic of how professionals operate. But you know,

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like I say, and it's sort of it's okay in

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some ways that like people as amateurs or hobbyists are

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building up skills or they're introducing people to it and

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then if they decide so because people go to The

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reason these people survive is because people want to save

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money or do the quick thing or someone says they

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can do it in one session, and which is still

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possible with just the habit of smoking. But if you're

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wanting to work, if you're wanting to work with significant

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emotional issues, to think that you know, a psychologist. I

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went to a psychologist of three years. He couldn't do it?

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Can you do it in ninety minutes? It's like, you know,

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if you're doing something serious, at least three to five

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sessions isn't a lot and having a professional approach. But

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you know, again, so there's a lot of unprofessionalism there.

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Does The idea of suggestion based only as a remedy

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for breaking habits is a very limited way. So I'd

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regress people to the causes when it comes to cigarette smoking,

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because for me, it's not just the thing that's smoking

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in your hand. It's whatever's smoking, whatever's burning inside of you.

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some deeper level, so that people go through a three

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session program, they stop smoking and they've pulled out the

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fire of whatever else was was burning there. I mean,

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some people just do have no other issues than only

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a habit, but most people there'll be something else going on,

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and you're able to make, you know, a real lifelong

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breakthrough in a lot of areas, and that's the stopping

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smoking becomes almost a secondary benefit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can believe that. I'm glad you said

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that about yourself, because I know you're not like that man,

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You're not like that person that tried to do that

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to me. Yeah, and that is obvious. You really do

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feel for what you're talking about. Yeah, but with me,

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I've got I met And I would say this again

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to everybody, put their cigarettes out because otherwise you're going

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to end up like me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I was a smoker for I was a

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smoker for a while as well. And but yeah, it's yeah,

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it's it's in a way. You know a lot of

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things that we think can harm us in a way,

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but we will have to go through healing journey and

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learning lessons and stuff. So it is for a lot

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of people. Actually they become hypno therapists because they got

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a good hypno therapist, they stopped. In fact, I had

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a number of people would come to some of a

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guy who was on my first training course. He only

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came because he did some smocks stopped smoking sessions with

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me and he couldn't believe that they worked. And he

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was so amazed at the process that I did with

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him that he came to my training course to learn

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what I did to him.

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Speaker 1: Well, I wish, I tell you now, I wish what

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all those years ago. I wish that man had done

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that job properly because I wouldn't be in the situation

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I am now. You know, I smoked again another forty

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odd years after that.

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Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, it's a it's a

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shame to hear it, but that's you know, forty years.

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I mean, hopefully the profession that the profession has changed

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a lot over the years. But yeah, unfortunately your story

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is not an unusual one. But you know it literally

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hearing that that created pain. It creates pain for everybody.

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So it just comes down to, you know, why do

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I even do hypnotherapy? And it's really to address, you know,

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significant issues and to heal and deal with real pain.

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And I think that's what hypnotherapy is about. Just suggestions

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to stop habits. Is a lot more to it, but

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I think that's part. I think people understand that I

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would have people come again, coming back to the presenting issues.

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People say, I've got a limiting belief, can we work

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on that? But then that have a session and realize, wow,

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I had no idea hypnotherapy and regression could do so

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much more. And then they open up the scope of

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the outcomes that they want to get and they can

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go so much deeper. And so that's another reason why

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I have like three to five sessions as my minimum,

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because people are bringing really sophisticated issues and that's part

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of this education process, people knowing that it can do

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more and that it's worthwhile. You know, like you say,

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what is it? Is it worth spending a bit of

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extra money to do a couple of sessions, more sessions

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and prevent yourself having forty years of the side effects

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of this And do.

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Speaker 1: You think how much I spent on cigarettes and that

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forty years? Yeah? Absolutely, Yeah, it would have been done,

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like you say, we've been done so cheaper to have

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another couple of sessions. But he wasn't interested in stopping

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me smoking. Yeah, job, it was only out for his

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own interest, like I said. But getting back to this,

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how many have you have you? What's your dult stuff

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do you come up against when you hypnotize these people?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well when I talk about the deepest scope, so

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it's rare. So I've been doing this for twenty years.

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For the first ten years, I would do smoking, weight loss, phobias,

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this kind of thing. But now it's pretty much as

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consciousness changes, even in the last five years, it's much

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more about actually people becoming healers as well. So I

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think people have been I mean they've been motivated to

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become healers by reading Brian Weiss or Michael Newton, that

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and even a lot of psychologists. So half of my

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students are professional healers like psychologists, counselors, social workers with

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a scientific kind of a degree, and they have their

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own spiritual awakenings and then they'll come to me for

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heal sessions on how to have confidence to be a healer,

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which means how to speak their truth about the experiences

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they've had in the face of criticism from their colleagues

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that they perceive or at least are worried about. What

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tends to happen is that when they do start to

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do more spiritually oriented therapies, their psychology colleagues much more

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accepting of it than they might have thought. And so yeah,

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that's a big part of what I do is working

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with people on their unspiritual awakening so that they can

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offer more spiritually orientated sessions to people who are awakening

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and wanting to deal with some of the consequences of that.

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So there can be dark knights of the souls that

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can be transitions involved in how do you move from one,

478
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,799
you know, type of work to another? Yeah, yeah, it's

479
00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:17,920
actually yeah, so when I have lost the question and

480
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:19,079
that answer.

481
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: I ash what type of dark stuff when you're hadbitize, Yeah, right,

482
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,759
dark the light of dark attachments and things or.

483
00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: Warantines or whatever. Yeah, and so well that's that's so

484
00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:36,839
to my point. So that's the reason why these psychologists

485
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,519
are being attracted to spiritual healing. Sometimes it's because, you know,

486
00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:42,960
the classic one was Brian Weiss, was I put you

487
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:47,559
in regression and hypnotic regression and you accidentally regress to

488
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:50,440
a past life instead of this life. And you know

489
00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:53,279
that was Brian documented that thirty years ago, and that's

490
00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:56,240
still the case. But what I've been finding is that

491
00:27:56,279 --> 00:27:59,920
people regress people back to past lives and then they

492
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,759
find art that there are entities attached or connected to them,

493
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:06,799
and so they can or like Michael Newton, they can

494
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:08,799
connect to their sole group and there can be other

495
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,880
beings there that might be loved ones, but there can

496
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,480
be earth bound spirits that can be random. And so

497
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:17,599
what I see is and so this is sort of

498
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,440
like the first half of my book is conventional past

499
00:28:20,519 --> 00:28:23,039
in between lives. But then what I'm seeing now over

500
00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:26,240
the last five or ten years, we're phasing out of

501
00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:29,640
doing these habit breaking hypnotherapy and we're phasing in to

502
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,799
doing spiritual aggression beyond past lives, which is working with

503
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,279
earth bound spirits, dark Force entities, and ets. So they

504
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:41,039
are the three categories of things. And half of the

505
00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:44,599
time people like send me intake forms saying I know

506
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:47,640
I've got a dark Force entity or an earth bound

507
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,359
because it says I'm lost or I'm going to drain

508
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,240
your energy and you. In fact, that's even part of

509
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:57,400
the one of the things that can be driving addictions,

510
00:28:57,799 --> 00:28:59,960
which is it's telling me to stay up and drink

511
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,559
or smoke or binge eat, And so they say these

512
00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:08,880
thoughts that I'm having and these emotions that I'm feeling,

513
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,359
I know they're not mine. And so it's actually interesting

514
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,359
before you were saying like I have this I few

515
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,319
energy like and you sort of like have that. But

516
00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:19,119
to me, that's a form of barrier. There's an important

517
00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:21,799
difference between having that you know, I've got a boundary,

518
00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:24,599
which is don't you try and get close to me.

519
00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:27,160
But the other one is people start to feel they're

520
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:33,200
in their relationships and they will start having conflict or

521
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:38,359
aggression towards a friend, and they'll realize, I'm actually not

522
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,200
that angry. That anger is coming from something else, and

523
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,200
it'll be an entity which is trying to create separation

524
00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:49,000
and division and trying to have that person alone for themselves.

525
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,119
So one of the things that these dark entities want

526
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,920
to do is prevent people from becoming healers and prevent

527
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,640
people from being in loving, healthy relationships.

528
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,119
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I totally agree with her, But you could

529
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,400
when you when there is something around. And I've talked

530
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,440
to people before, and not only do they they tell me,

531
00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:16,960
by the way, like you just explained through these things,

532
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:23,799
you know, god uh, mentioning things like you want to

533
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,799
drink that, or you want to do this, or want

534
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,480
to do that, these sort of attachments, you know, they

535
00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:32,799
get onto paper, like you're saying, then that person starts

536
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:38,240
drinking or whatever. But I've actually talked to people when

537
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:41,920
I've gone when I've really pressed into them, they say

538
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,759
to me, I can feel it inside me. I can

539
00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:52,680
feel that thing inside my body. Yeah, you know, in

540
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,640
other words, they're feeling the energy of that actual you

541
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,519
know if you were sitting here watching me, My hands

542
00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:02,279
are flying all over the place, talking like an Italian here,

543
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,519
I'm trying to explain this.

544
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,359
Speaker 5: Wherever that.

545
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can. Actually it's like me when I walk

546
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,240
into a room, I know instantly if there's something there

547
00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:20,200
or there's not something there. I know by feeling it

548
00:31:20,359 --> 00:31:23,839
what level it is at, whether it's nothing to be

549
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,640
worried about, or whether it's something that's really a bit

550
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:29,119
a basket case, you know.

551
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

552
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: And when I talk to these people that have attachments

553
00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:39,920
sort of think they have attachments, you know, many, like

554
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,720
I said, many of them to say, it's inside me.

555
00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:47,680
I can feel it. I can feel it. They feel

556
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,319
in the energy, they fit in the energy inside their bullets.

557
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: Yep, that's exactly what I see. People tell me that,

558
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:57,279
And that's the reason they come for sessions or they

559
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,519
know something's not right. I don't know what it is.

560
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,480
I'll come into the session and suddenly the armill start moving,

561
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:06,880
they'll be twitching their legal twitch, they'll kick like sort of,

562
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,759
and then they'll start feeling I've got this really heavy

563
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:16,039
or sharp or or stabbing or tingling or or spiky sensation.

564
00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:19,920
Uh in the and and you talked about buzzing. Sometimes

565
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,119
what they'll actually do is they'll start breathing in a

566
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,480
strange way, but then they'll start kind of growling.

567
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,519
Speaker 1: Oh yes. And the amount of times i've heard goodbye

568
00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:37,359
you you can walk past once. I would go into

569
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,200
the toilet once and as I was going, I was

570
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,359
in such a hurry. It was one night, and as

571
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:46,200
I was this was our house in London, and as

572
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,319
I was heading along the corridor to the hallway to

573
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:54,559
the toilet, this deep growl came from a doorway very close,

574
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:57,440
but the door was shut. It was just in like

575
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:03,359
an alcove, and it was a very really demonic type ground.

576
00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:05,400
And I say, oh, for God's shop. I want to

577
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,480
get to the loop first, just dive for the loop.

578
00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:12,519
When I come out, the whole feelure it was all clear.

579
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,599
Speaker 3: It's gone okay. Yeah. So so for me, when I

580
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,279
when people start growling like that, it's often like it's

581
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:23,480
like they've revealed themselves because a lot of times they've

582
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:27,599
been hiding, and so they they'll sort of growl and

583
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,440
then I'll say the people yeah, through the person exactly,

584
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:33,480
So I don't hear it as a buzzing or anything.

585
00:33:33,559 --> 00:33:36,480
I don't hear it. It's through their vocal cords. Or

586
00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:40,279
they'll say to me, I'm hearing something growling and saying this,

587
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,440
and then they relay it or they'll just growl, and

588
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,400
so then I was all, then address that. And so

589
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,480
it's like it's like a little worm sticking its head

590
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:50,799
up and I would just sort of grab it and

591
00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:53,000
then start pulling it out and say, growler, we know

592
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:56,960
you're there. And I will say and then and they'll say, oh,

593
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,240
he looks pissed off that you've that you found and

594
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,319
he's trying to hide in the corner. And so then

595
00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:07,039
I would say, growler, you've made a little mistake there,

596
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:10,280
haven't you. We now we know that you're there, and

597
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,599
and he says, I don't want to talk to you,

598
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:13,599
and I said, interesting, you just told me you don't

599
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:15,039
want to talk to me, So you are talking to

600
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:18,199
me and then you engage them in conversation, and it's

601
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,760
like you give them enough rope and then they start

602
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,679
giving you information and you can start tying them into

603
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,119
knots with the rope in information that they're giving you.

604
00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:30,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell you, I'm surprised that you have not

605
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:36,199
read doctor Irene Hickman. I really am woll that.

606
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 3: Was that was very much like you well, that was

607
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,000
the other mark by the way, you said he hadn't

608
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,599
read it. So she did remote deep depossession that book,

609
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:43,960
isn't it.

610
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, brilliant.

611
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so yeah, so I'm aware of her and

612
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,960
that kind of work. And actually William book. Yeah, and

613
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:57,079
you know, so William Baldwin is probably my primary resource there.

614
00:34:57,079 --> 00:34:58,480
But yeah, there are a number of writers in it,

615
00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:01,559
so Iren Hickman's one of them. Absolutely.

616
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 5: She was one of the.

617
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: Early ones from she died a long.

618
00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:07,079
Speaker 3: Time ago, yeah, twenty years ago.

619
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sure.

620
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:15,119
Speaker 3: Y yeah. Edith Fiori is another good one just for

621
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:19,960
for people the unquite dead. And William J. Baldwin Spirit

622
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,320
Releasement a technique manu is also amazing. But yeah, it's

623
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,159
interesting to note this has been you know, people have

624
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:33,039
people and the this has been part of the the

625
00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:35,920
people's work, you know, because you know, Hickman was a physician,

626
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:40,079
so she's a medical trained trained person and and and

627
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,480
so that's so I include that in the book just

628
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,760
to testify that, you know, this kind of thing does happen,

629
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:48,199
because it's something even when people do things like q

630
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:53,239
H h T. They even past lives like Brian Weiss,

631
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:56,559
he does they a lot of the past life writerers

632
00:35:56,599 --> 00:35:59,480
don't mention it that much. But I think it's what

633
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:01,639
I find, and is that people come, people come to me.

634
00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:04,000
And of course I could just have a completely biased

635
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:08,280
selection of people like spirit sends them to me, and

636
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,079
it's not actually that much of a popular thing. But

637
00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:13,440
what I'm seeing more and more is more people are

638
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,199
being drawn to me and the people that I teach

639
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:17,960
of finding oh my clients. So having this kind of

640
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:21,199
thing as well, and so it's just and when people

641
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,079
encounter it and that isn't spoken about that what widely,

642
00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:26,320
then they can think that it's sort of some sort

643
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,639
of aberration. So I'm glad that you know that the

644
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:30,760
writers that have preceded us as speaking about it. I

645
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,119
wanted to, you know, let people know that this kind

646
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:35,400
of thing can happen. And what also happens is like

647
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,960
they might see, oh, there was a buzzing here or

648
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,800
a grolling there, and they haven't read Hickman or Fiore

649
00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:44,599
or Baldwin or you know, or we'll see my courses

650
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:46,000
and then they don't really know what it is. And

651
00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:47,960
they don't know what to do with it, and so

652
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,639
to me, there's sort of a complex way of releasing

653
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:52,559
it in a simple way. So a lot of people

654
00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:57,760
will then bring in archangels, send them to the light,

655
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,760
tell them what to do, which is which is great,

656
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,440
And so to me that's sort of the one off

657
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,480
session or the quick way of doing it. And if

658
00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:07,719
that works, then great. You know, it's a pretty simple

659
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,280
technique of just really saying, you know, we don't give

660
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,119
your sovereign permission. We insist that you go to the light.

661
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,519
But like you say, they can be deceptive and if

662
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:19,639
they just say if you are not going to and

663
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:22,519
they don't, well, then it can be another journey. And

664
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:24,800
so I teach people when they get what do you

665
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,760
So people ask me, what do you do when you

666
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,719
bring in the archangels and you stand strong and you

667
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,400
stay in your power and you bring in the light

668
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,880
beings and you tell them to go to the light.

669
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,960
And most of the time that works, but sometimes it doesn't.

670
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,039
What do you do then? And so that's kind of

671
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,519
my course is an answer to that question. What I

672
00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:44,079
then tend to do is because things can be wrapped up,

673
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:47,079
so you can have I mentioned earth bound spirits and

674
00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:50,079
dark force entities and et. So in my case studies,

675
00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:53,519
I show somebody had this life trauma, that they had

676
00:37:53,559 --> 00:37:56,159
a lot of fear and anger and guilt, and then

677
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,880
they had that had that doubles up because they had

678
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,320
a similar pattern of past life. And then an earth

679
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,440
bound spirit comes in that's feeling a lot of few

680
00:38:03,519 --> 00:38:06,960
and anger and guilt and doubles that, and that earth

681
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,440
bound spirit's got a dark force attachment which is telling

682
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,559
it if you don't haunt this person, I'm going to

683
00:38:13,639 --> 00:38:16,079
if you up, and then there may be an ET

684
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,480
observing all this. And so now you've got a real

685
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,239
big mess, and just saying go to the light or

686
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,159
you know, release your anger isn't going to do it,

687
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,000
or might do it a little bit for a little while,

688
00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:29,760
but then you have to untangle the whole thing. So

689
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,199
you have to do hypnotherapy and past lives and release

690
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,039
an earth bound spirit and all the other earth bound

691
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:35,960
where there's one that's men.

692
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,599
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupt on Yeah, it's very much like

693
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,440
what also what Sharman's do, isn't.

694
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 3: It A Yeah?

695
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's now that's Marxism.

696
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not I have some of my clients or

697
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,320
students have some a shamanistic background. I don't, uh, And

698
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,840
so I often find a lot of people in Simon's

699
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,400
and past lives. Some people can be Simon's in this lives.

700
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,280
But you know, I'm really kind of regression based and

701
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,159
I have quite a particular protocol. But yeah, I'm curious.

702
00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:16,519
I'm curious to know and different Shimon's. There are different

703
00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:19,400
Somanic traditions. Don't know about that.

704
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not an expert on that I've but my

705
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:27,199
case marks more into that sort of air.

706
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,679
Speaker 5: Well, I wouldn't call myself an expert.

707
00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:33,639
Speaker 1: Better than may on that area. Yeare better than me.

708
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,320
I'll just that the bogus.

709
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 5: Well mark. What I'm interested in is this whole idea.

710
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,360
I mean, there's most people just hear about past life

711
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,440
progressions and was what we were talking about earlier, looking

712
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,559
at maybe issues from past life bleeding over today. But

713
00:39:55,679 --> 00:40:04,880
this whole concept of attachments and multiple attachments including aliens,

714
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,280
I mean, what is it with I can understand dark entities,

715
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,960
I can understand human attachments, but what is it with

716
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,800
alien is an attachment or is it they're just interested

717
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,320
in that person for whatever reason. I mean, what's your.

718
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: Thoughts A great question, So I differentiate. I say that

719
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:30,039
you can have attachments as earth bound attachments and dark

720
00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:34,760
force attachments, but I don't speak of ET attachments. So

721
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,480
I think that's a great point that you raise, and

722
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:39,840
so I don't. I don't think of ET's as being attached.

723
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,320
It is more that what I find is that they

724
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,400
can be observing people and and and and by doing that,

725
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:51,199
like to the extent of gathering data and that, and

726
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,519
that they may also what I find is be running

727
00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:56,760
experiments or rather than an eaty attaching to you, what

728
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,880
I find is that they can put in a psychic device.

729
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:01,880
So I think of it more in terms of an

730
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:07,000
ET device implant that may modify or create some sort

731
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,039
of experiment or a tempt to make some sort of

732
00:41:11,079 --> 00:41:15,320
alteration or improvement in the human and then gather data

733
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:18,360
and see the results of their experiment. And sometimes they

734
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,800
may not. The device may just be a monitoring device

735
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,559
to learn about us, or it may be to modify us.

736
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,960
And that's something that again at my core, all I

737
00:41:29,039 --> 00:41:31,000
rarely want to do is if you've got some sort

738
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:34,119
of pain that's affecting you negatively in the present moment

739
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,119
and you want to use your subconscious mind and go

740
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:39,119
onto hypnosis to go to a root cause and to

741
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:42,440
figure it out. Let's do that. So I'm not a

742
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,320
person who grew up or even now is really particularly

743
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,400
interested in ets. I'm only really interested in them when

744
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:54,320
they become my business because they're affecting my client negatively

745
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,679
or in some way, and so that's actually, you know,

746
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,559
it's actually we don't even assume that it's negative because

747
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:04,519
you can do routine ish past life regression and fine

748
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:07,960
that people were ET's in a past life, or that

749
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:12,440
they have they have a purpose or some sort of

750
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,719
lineage to ets, and then that's not a problem or necessarily.

751
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,320
But what happens these days as well, because it's begun

752
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,920
something that's sort of more the last five or ten years,

753
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,480
a higher profile people do channel ets, and that's going

754
00:42:25,519 --> 00:42:27,599
to happen as well. This is how people sometimes get

755
00:42:27,679 --> 00:42:30,880
dark entities because they do practices where they want to

756
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,480
connect with their spirit guides, but they open up and

757
00:42:33,519 --> 00:42:35,599
they don't have the boundaries and they just connect to

758
00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:38,280
anything and everything. So that's how people got sort of

759
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,719
dark entities in the past, and these days people can

760
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,760
be wanting to channel the Palladians or whatever it may be.

761
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:47,239
But then they'll say to me, oh, I channel the

762
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,039
Palladians and they're so wise and it's amazing. But then

763
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:52,000
I start channeling some of these other beings and I'm

764
00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:55,440
not quite sure what they are, but now I'm getting nightmares.

765
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:05,199
Speaker 5: If you could answer this question considering that you don't

766
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,159
really deal with it as from this point of view,

767
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:14,280
but would those people that have something to do with aliens,

768
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,239
would you think that they're more likely to be experiencers

769
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:24,000
who have dealt with or or ongoingly actively dealing with

770
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,639
these types of beings.

771
00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, So by experience it do you mean someone who's

772
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:32,639
had contact in the past or yes.

773
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 5: Whether whether an abductee or just a contact.

774
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: Ye.

775
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely no, So that that's pretty much anyone who

776
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,039
has some sort of eaty device, it will be an

777
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:47,599
experiencer or a contact e or I mean they'll even

778
00:43:47,639 --> 00:43:49,880
wonder like so I haven't in the book, I've got

779
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,079
one of the case studies says I had. You know,

780
00:43:53,119 --> 00:43:56,039
he also was not like a believer or guy who

781
00:43:56,119 --> 00:43:59,199
was like reading a lot about ets and like wanted

782
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,039
to wanted to be He was he literally said to

783
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:04,519
me even a year ago, I didn't even believe in

784
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,400
that people had a soul. I was a scientific rationalist.

785
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,719
I would never come for past lives at lone ets.

786
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,440
But then I had this dream where I was taken

787
00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:17,440
up into a ship and I had had a long,

788
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,679
a long, complicated, convoluted story. And he woke up in

789
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,800
the morning and told his girlfriend, I had this ridiculous

790
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,440
dream of these ten things. And as he told it

791
00:44:25,519 --> 00:44:27,719
the girlfriend, I said, I had exactly the same dream,

792
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,360
and everything happened to me as well when we were

793
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:29,840
there together.

794
00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 5: Hmmm.

795
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 3: And then he was like, wow, I yeah, that sort

796
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,599
of son. But then he wonders, does that mean that

797
00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:40,679
I was psucked on into a ship or was I

798
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,920
dreaming it? Was it a psychic experience? Was it a

799
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,679
literal physical one? And he wasn't sure. But typically the

800
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:47,280
people that I work with that have some sort of

801
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,159
et connection will have had an experience like that.

802
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:58,679
Speaker 5: Another question is have you encountered Let's say some people

803
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,639
coming in and they feel maybe they have an attachment

804
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:07,920
or they feel something about with aliens, and turns out

805
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:12,280
when you're regressing them that maybe people are just highly

806
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:21,599
what's the term they're so highly suggestive, open to suggestion,

807
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:27,039
and open to believing things in their waking life that

808
00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:31,440
they're manifesting these types of things when they don't, when

809
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,159
those types of things are not actually happening to them.

810
00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:38,440
Let's say somebody who believes an alien so much that

811
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:42,960
they think they've been abductor have experiences, and it turns

812
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,000
out they really haven't. Have you ever encountered anything like that?

813
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 3: I encountered that all the time. So that's why I

814
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,360
make this point about my case study. Had no interest, belief,

815
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:55,679
or desire to have anything to do with ETAs, but

816
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,679
it happened to him, which And I say that because

817
00:45:58,679 --> 00:46:01,840
it's in contrast to people who want to believe or

818
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,039
they've read a lot of books about it and it's

819
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:06,679
seeped in and they can't tell if it's my experience

820
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,360
or something I read in the book a long time ago.

821
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,880
And so I include the cases of the people who've

822
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,760
never read those books and have no interest in this

823
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,760
life anyway, because it just sort of validates it a

824
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,519
bit more. But the other key thing, so if someone

825
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:21,559
says to me, you know, I want to aggress the

826
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,280
past lives, then and I feel a connection to it.

827
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,079
Then most people will be able to do that as

828
00:46:28,119 --> 00:46:32,039
long as but when it comes to these ets or

829
00:46:32,039 --> 00:46:35,880
spirit releasement things, there is I have to do a

830
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,119
filtering process to ensure that when I do take people

831
00:46:40,199 --> 00:46:43,199
into when I agree to even give those sessions, I'm

832
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,320
kind of giving the suggestion that what you're talking about

833
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,960
ets and dark forces may be real, because I've validated

834
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:53,719
enough to take the money and do the work. And

835
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,480
so I fifty percent of the people that send me

836
00:46:57,519 --> 00:47:00,960
an intake form for spirit release or darkfes or ebs,

837
00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:04,559
I won't work with them because of that very reason,

838
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,280
So I will turn away. Let's say, if someone says

839
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:08,920
to me, oh, I just I'm a tourist. I don't

840
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,440
know anything about past lives, but my friend told me

841
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:13,079
that they're called so I want to do a past

842
00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:16,119
life session, and I don't have any real issues. I just,

843
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,920
you know, want to know what I was. I probably

844
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,280
wouldn't work with a person like that because I need

845
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,000
to do therapy to work on pain over a longer term.

846
00:47:23,679 --> 00:47:25,719
But you know, maybe one that only happens, you know,

847
00:47:26,199 --> 00:47:29,440
five or ten percent of the time, But fifty percent

848
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,159
of the time people approach me with I think that

849
00:47:33,199 --> 00:47:36,159
I've got an entity attachment, and actually it really is

850
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,320
just sort of unresolved fear or anger from this life.

851
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,400
And they don't really need spirit releasement. They just need

852
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,760
hepnotherapy or something else, and so that so it's a

853
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,360
great question, and so it's something I'm really careful about

854
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,119
because I don't they may be suggestible themselves, and I

855
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:54,840
don't want to enable or back up a false suggestion

856
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,480
they're giving. So I turn away literally half of the people.

857
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,159
And in my training courses in that's why in the book,

858
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,119
I really include the intake forms, which is very unusual

859
00:48:04,199 --> 00:48:06,119
for these kind of writings. That's why I had only

860
00:48:06,159 --> 00:48:09,039
seven case studies, but very detailed, so I can literally

861
00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:11,800
show the intake forms and my training courses I have

862
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,880
here the intake forms people sent me that were not

863
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,559
good enough for me to accept them for these sessions.

864
00:48:17,519 --> 00:48:19,440
And so because a lot of people they think, oh,

865
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,679
I think I've got an earth bound or a dark force,

866
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:24,360
and then they read the real intake forms and they go,

867
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,360
holy shit, I thought I had it bad might is

868
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,599
nothing compared to what these ones are. And these are

869
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:30,960
the ones that they end up working.

870
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 5: With Wow with some of the case studies in the book,

871
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,760
and of course we want everybody to go in and

872
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:46,400
get the book. So, but is there one particular case

873
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,960
study that you've done that really stands out to you,

874
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:52,920
maybe even makes you scratch your head a little bit

875
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:56,719
in terms of, you know, the amount of strangess you

876
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:57,679
might have encountered.

877
00:48:59,079 --> 00:48:59,199
Speaker 6: Uh.

878
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I am kind of a grinded person.

879
00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:05,159
So I actually will come back to something that move

880
00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:08,199
away from dark forces and all this stuff, because you know,

881
00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:10,440
there are dark forces that operate now in our world

882
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,440
and have done for millennia. You know, we'd you know,

883
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,199
as humans, we'd go around and you know, war and

884
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,440
kill and steal and destroy and all of this stuff.

885
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,000
So there was a case study in there where she's

886
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,239
a psychologist. She's one of the examples that she wanted

887
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,039
to do spiritual healing work. She had like pains in

888
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:32,280
her knees, she had a karmic connection to Tibetan monks,

889
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,239
she had a comic connection and wanted to do spiritual healing,

890
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,280
but she also didn't want to because she felt a

891
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,320
pleasure and a positivity but also a great negativity, And

892
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,679
so we took her into a past life, and she

893
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,079
found out she was a Tibetan monk. But we went

894
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:50,239
to a moment where she was an invading force came

895
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,760
along and she wasn't killed, but all of her students were.

896
00:49:54,679 --> 00:49:57,800
And so this is a case where she, you know,

897
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,719
we talked about growling and people twitching. She was actually

898
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,000
trying not to remember it. But as I guided her

899
00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:07,320
to go to the emotion and to face it, she

900
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,519
did and she started just sobbing, and she cried out,

901
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,079
my students, they're killing my students. And she was able

902
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:19,679
to escape and find safe refuge. And years later she

903
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,440
was able to meditate and deal with the anger and

904
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:27,079
pain and bitterness, and she realized that she was learning

905
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:30,280
and she was teaching the reality of life as in permanence,

906
00:50:31,199 --> 00:50:34,559
but she hadn't truly grasped it. But she had that personal, felt,

907
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:37,800
painful experience and that enabled her to come to a

908
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,920
transcendent view where she was able to deeply forgive the

909
00:50:41,039 --> 00:50:45,599
soldiers that killed her monastic students, and she went from

910
00:50:45,679 --> 00:50:49,480
tears of sadness and pain to tears of joy as

911
00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:52,800
we relived her past life death where she found out

912
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,480
that she'd continued. She got a new batch of students,

913
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,599
and they were so grateful that she didn't succumb to bitterness.

914
00:50:59,199 --> 00:51:01,679
And as she past, she met the spirits of the

915
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,360
students that had been killed, and they said, congratulations, you

916
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,079
passed the test. You know, you learned your lesson. We're okay.

917
00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:12,480
Our bodies were killed, our spirits weren't. And it reminds

918
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,079
me of a little the story of the the dial

919
00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:18,760
A Lama was told one of his monks also escaped

920
00:51:19,039 --> 00:51:22,519
from Tibet, and he said, weren't you He was kept

921
00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:26,039
in a prison and tortured and nearly nearly killed every

922
00:51:26,119 --> 00:51:28,760
day for twenty years, And he said, weren't you afraid

923
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,000
when you were being tortured?

924
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:31,199
Speaker 6: You know?

925
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 3: And he and you know, weren't you afraid that you'd

926
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,039
be killed? And he said, well, I was afraid, but

927
00:51:36,119 --> 00:51:38,320
I was afraid that for one second I would lose

928
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,159
compassion for the people that were torturing me. And so

929
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:48,880
to me, that's like a beautiful thing to remember. Yeah, well.

930
00:51:51,079 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 5: That is, it's and that's something to really think about.

931
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:06,800
I've had a couple of past life experiences, is what

932
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,519
I'll call them, because one I did. Some woman contacted

933
00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:13,639
me a long time ago. She was writing a book

934
00:52:13,679 --> 00:52:19,159
about doing a hypnotherapy and past life aggressions. She sent

935
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,079
me a tape to listen to and then if it worked,

936
00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:24,639
I could tell her my stories. She would include it

937
00:52:24,639 --> 00:52:31,960
in the book. And it was fascinating in that I

938
00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:36,880
did have an experience after several failed attempts, and the

939
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:44,840
person that I found who I was unusual. I got

940
00:52:45,039 --> 00:52:51,719
a time period eighteen sixties in Boston. I was a

941
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:58,559
young girl, like a teenager, and the name came to

942
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:04,159
me too. And after the session, I started thinking about it,

943
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,119
and you want to know something, I found her and

944
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:14,519
the family history. In fact, her mother was relatively famous

945
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:20,960
over here during her sister so was her sister, Yes,

946
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:27,719
which we found out Irene was was the sister. So

947
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,199
we've shared lifetimes in the past. I just wonder if

948
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:33,920
she was so incorrigible towards me you forgetting my name

949
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:42,760
back then. But I also had an experience where this

950
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,480
this wasn't a hypnosis, it wasn't a dream. It was

951
00:53:45,519 --> 00:53:50,840
more of I was with the shamanism part. It's like meditation,

952
00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:54,320
but they call it a shamanic journeying and you're trying

953
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,760
to project yourself and going into the upper, middle, and

954
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,440
lower worlds, and I went to the upper world in

955
00:54:01,519 --> 00:54:04,239
this dream, I'm giving you the very short version, and

956
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:09,400
I actually found myself in the Acashic records, and I

957
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,679
went to this one section which had these scrolls and whatnot.

958
00:54:14,039 --> 00:54:18,079
This little tiny shelf in this infinite space, this little

959
00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:21,400
tiny shelf was me. And I knew I could pull

960
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,559
two scrolls, each scroll being a lifetime. And I pulled

961
00:54:25,559 --> 00:54:32,119
the first one, and I was a Roman emperor, and

962
00:54:32,159 --> 00:54:34,559
now there were dozens and dozens of Roman emperors, so

963
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,480
you know, I can't say if it was anybody famous

964
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:40,760
or not. I don't think it was. But then I

965
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,960
pulled the second one, and then I was a lady

966
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,719
in waiting during the Middle Ages for some queen or

967
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,400
princess or lor madam, whatever it is. And I mean,

968
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,079
no other details came. But I realized after that event

969
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,000
that I was in a period where I was trying

970
00:55:02,039 --> 00:55:07,559
to learn about balance. And that's what that imagery of

971
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,079
those past lives gave me. In one I was a

972
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:15,159
man of power, the other I was a woman in servitude.

973
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:21,239
Two opposite extremes, not only the masculine and feminine, but

974
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:27,400
the you know, the power and servitude, all mixing and

975
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:32,239
balancing out to create the whole, and for me at

976
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,679
that time, that was a very important lesson to learn.

977
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,039
Speaker 3: Well, that's the question. How did it relate to what

978
00:55:38,119 --> 00:55:42,320
you're going through in that moment in this life.

979
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 5: Let's just say it's some things I'm not ready to

980
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:50,639
talk about yet. Yeah, I'm going too soon, but nah,

981
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,079
I'm not quite there yet. But it definitely had a

982
00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:56,480
lot to do with balancing out some things in my

983
00:55:56,599 --> 00:56:01,880
life and looking at those past lives and how they

984
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:06,039
were affecting this life. And it's all And I guess

985
00:56:06,039 --> 00:56:08,960
that's the whole thing about with with reincarnation and past

986
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:14,039
lives and even future lives is all these experiences they're

987
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:18,159
still working for the whole, you know, your higher self,

988
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,480
your soul, whatever you want to call it, having all

989
00:56:22,519 --> 00:56:26,960
of these different experiences and it's rounding out the total

990
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,360
experience of existence.

991
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, without going into detail, like what I

992
00:56:32,519 --> 00:56:35,039
find is that people will have an element where like

993
00:56:35,159 --> 00:56:38,760
maybe I'm like too humble and too meek, and on

994
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,320
the other hand, I'm too full of myself and too arrogant,

995
00:56:41,679 --> 00:56:43,599
and that it can be like one life sort of

996
00:56:43,639 --> 00:56:45,960
exemplified that the other one exemplified it. But then we

997
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,880
come and find out that I've know that those two

998
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,360
lives kind of have balanced themselves out, but they're both

999
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,400
affecting us now and we have to have that thing

1000
00:56:54,599 --> 00:56:56,960
of you know, who am I to write a book

1001
00:56:57,039 --> 00:57:01,320
and you know, give over my opinion versus I'll just

1002
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,559
sort of stay wide and not do anything, and you know,

1003
00:57:04,599 --> 00:57:06,440
and so you have to balance that, and so you

1004
00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:09,000
want to be able to like, do you know, do

1005
00:57:09,199 --> 00:57:11,280
what you need to do, but do it humbly. And

1006
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,480
so it's the kind of thing where you have the

1007
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:14,719
arrogance to write a book, but the humility to know it.

1008
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,519
You know, you're not saving the world or special because

1009
00:57:17,519 --> 00:57:19,440
you have you know, all that stuff. So that's the

1010
00:57:19,519 --> 00:57:22,320
kind of thing that I find that it can balance

1011
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,000
out over the course of lives. But hopefully it has

1012
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:28,559
that message that means that because a lot of people

1013
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:31,559
I'll have a fear of speaking out and speaking the truth,

1014
00:57:31,719 --> 00:57:34,159
like being a healer or writing about it or you know,

1015
00:57:34,199 --> 00:57:36,639
even I told my students go on podcasts talk about

1016
00:57:36,679 --> 00:57:39,199
your work, and they're shy about it, and they've got

1017
00:57:39,199 --> 00:57:41,400
some sort of fear. And it may be and it

1018
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,320
can be from the past where I spoke out and

1019
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,039
I've got witches wounds. I spoke out about spirituality in

1020
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:47,840
the past and I got burned at the stake for it.

1021
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,679
But then I didn't do healing in the past and

1022
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,880
somebody died and I really deeply regretted it. So I

1023
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,039
really want to speak out and be a healer, but

1024
00:57:56,079 --> 00:57:58,320
I was really afraid to do it because in one

1025
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,000
life I got punished for it. And you know, so

1026
00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:02,800
all of these things can happen. In the end, you

1027
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,920
becut you sort of ye are able to bring that

1028
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,400
balance from those two lines into this life, so you're

1029
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:13,639
able to to to resolve those those contradictory or dualistic

1030
00:58:13,719 --> 00:58:17,000
apparent opposites and find some sort of middle way where

1031
00:58:17,039 --> 00:58:18,639
you get to have the best of both worlds in

1032
00:58:18,679 --> 00:58:21,480
this life thanks to the to the past lives that

1033
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,880
we're influencing you. So does that make sense or having

1034
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,239
too specific? But was it something like that for you or.

1035
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:32,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's looking at the totality and of life lessons.

1036
00:58:32,639 --> 00:58:37,000
I mean, even just in this life alone, I've had

1037
00:58:37,079 --> 00:58:42,320
so many experiences and went through some horrible things and

1038
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,880
some stupid things, lots of stupid things. And I used

1039
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,760
to negatively reflect on everything, like, oh, I can't believe

1040
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,840
I did. I beat myself up a lot, and now

1041
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,119
I can look back on things that go wow, the

1042
00:58:57,239 --> 00:59:01,880
lessons I was learning. And I have learned from every

1043
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,960
one of those experiences, no matter how bad they were,

1044
00:59:06,519 --> 00:59:11,199
how they helped shape you in this lifetime to become.

1045
00:59:12,519 --> 00:59:15,639
And you know, I'm sixty one years old, so for me,

1046
00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:19,400
it's a lifetime of experiences that shape me who I

1047
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,719
am today. I'm way different than the person I was

1048
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:28,679
twenty years ago. And then when you add to that

1049
00:59:28,719 --> 00:59:32,239
the other life lessons learned from past lives, which is

1050
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,800
all there and your subconscious and your higher self than

1051
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:41,280
can be accessed. I just find the whole learning experience

1052
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:42,159
to be incredible.

1053
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that people say to me, you know, I

1054
00:59:46,039 --> 00:59:48,239
want to find out who I was in a past life,

1055
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,519
and I think, well, most people don't really know who

1056
00:59:50,519 --> 00:59:53,800
they are in this life, so that when we go

1057
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,280
into the past life, it helps us learn more about

1058
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,440
who we are now as well as you know, from

1059
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:03,039
the things that shaped us in the last twenty or

1060
01:00:03,079 --> 01:00:05,800
forty or sixty years and the things that shape us

1061
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,840
in past lives. And then really understanding who we are now.

1062
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,239
So that's part of past lives just allow you to

1063
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,519
be more present in who you are and now in

1064
01:00:14,599 --> 01:00:16,880
the now, but also in really knowing who you are

1065
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,559
and yeah, which we can take for granted and think

1066
01:00:20,599 --> 01:00:22,320
that we know who we are now, but sort of

1067
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,400
examining that is part of the work.

1068
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 5: Irene, Do you have anything.

1069
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,239
Speaker 1: To add You read about or you hear about, or

1070
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:41,159
often about people like get regressed or they hypnotized in

1071
01:00:41,239 --> 01:00:48,000
some way, or rather how they're all famous always famous lives, Cleopatra, King, Edwards,

1072
01:00:48,239 --> 01:00:50,880
whoever is? Do you come across that?

1073
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 3: You know what?

1074
01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 4: People?

1075
01:00:54,559 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 3: That's something I think people were saying like thirty forty

1076
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,039
years ago a bit as kind of an old trope,

1077
01:00:59,039 --> 01:01:01,199
and I don't hear it that much these days. But

1078
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,559
you know what I've had. I've been lucky enough to

1079
01:01:03,679 --> 01:01:07,599
work in well, you know, five seven star wellness resorts

1080
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:11,199
in Thailand, so i can say I've worked with more

1081
01:01:11,239 --> 01:01:15,159
people who were famous in this life than people who

1082
01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:16,880
were actually famous in past lives.

1083
01:01:17,719 --> 01:01:21,159
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you I'm glad you said that. I'm

1084
01:01:21,159 --> 01:01:23,880
glad you said that because when they when they regret,

1085
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,599
when that man regressed, me every life was nothing. I

1086
01:01:28,639 --> 01:01:32,320
was poor, I was married life.

1087
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:37,519
Speaker 3: I've probably like properly famous people. I've probably been out

1088
01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:39,920
of thousands, has probably been half a dozen, but I've

1089
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:46,280
probably done hypnosis with ten very famous people in this life. Yeah,

1090
01:01:46,519 --> 01:01:49,760
like you know, rod stars, Nobel Prize winners, you know,

1091
01:01:50,199 --> 01:01:53,960
royalty that like in this life. So I've hypnotized more

1092
01:01:54,039 --> 01:01:56,880
royals in this life than people found out. But that's

1093
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,280
the funny thing as well. There was also there was

1094
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:02,920
a guy who was he was a Russian czar, and

1095
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,159
you think, well that's a bit far fetched, but he

1096
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,119
was a Russian billionaire and an oligarch, so it kind

1097
01:02:08,119 --> 01:02:10,239
of makes sense. So if you're kind of like a

1098
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,559
very ordinary person, you know, there is balancing things. But

1099
01:02:13,679 --> 01:02:15,960
it's more likely if you're very famous in this life,

1100
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,880
the chances of you being famous in a past life

1101
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,840
are higher. You know, you've got that kind of big

1102
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,840
life kind of karma. Oftentimes it could easily be the opposite,

1103
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,639
but that's one thing that I see, So I very

1104
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,639
rarely see people that they're famous in a past life,

1105
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,840
even if they even happen to be famous in this life.

1106
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,559
So it's very rare. And there also and sometimes you

1107
01:02:34,559 --> 01:02:37,639
wouldn't even know. It's like I don't always ask a

1108
01:02:37,679 --> 01:02:40,119
lot about you know, are you famous? What's all this?

1109
01:02:40,159 --> 01:02:41,920
You know, obviously you could, you could bring it up

1110
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,519
by context, but it's still rarely just about sort of

1111
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:46,400
the emotional spiritual life. And that's one thing that I

1112
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,440
see from famous. What a very famous rock star said

1113
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,519
to me once, there are two types of people in

1114
01:02:51,559 --> 01:02:54,159
this world. And I was like, what famous, not famous?

1115
01:02:54,199 --> 01:02:58,000
The rich and the poor, and they said, people who

1116
01:02:58,039 --> 01:03:01,440
have success in their relationships and people who don't. And

1117
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:05,280
so this person was regardless of all the the fame

1118
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,599
and the rock stanners, it was just a pain of

1119
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:13,960
difficulties with relationships. And that was how they defined, you

1120
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,719
know what they were a person who just had difficulties

1121
01:03:16,719 --> 01:03:19,280
with relationships. And you know, whether you're famous or rich

1122
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,119
kind of doesn't matter if you have those kind of issues,

1123
01:03:22,159 --> 01:03:26,320
you know, mm hmm, or or if anything, if anything,

1124
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,480
it just makes it harder. And so it's like, you know,

1125
01:03:28,519 --> 01:03:30,679
we want to there's this idea that we like, we

1126
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,519
want being famous or rich is great, but it just

1127
01:03:33,559 --> 01:03:37,159
sort of makes your emotional, spiritual, psychological life more challenging.

1128
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:42,079
Speaker 1: So you know, so you're telling, you're telling, you're telling

1129
01:03:42,159 --> 01:03:44,280
me that Marca, what's Queen Elizabeth?

1130
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 5: You might have been?

1131
01:03:48,719 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I tell you, it's interesting that it's

1132
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,480
it's interesting, I tell I'll tell you one thing that's

1133
01:03:54,679 --> 01:03:57,000
interesting now that you bring it up. I have had

1134
01:03:57,199 --> 01:04:00,639
multiple clients who have been married Magdalena.

1135
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:06,599
Speaker 1: Well, and so that is the one, isn't it?

1136
01:04:07,239 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 3: Yes, Well, that is the trick though, And I think

1137
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,199
there are some things that there's you know, there's fame,

1138
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,400
which is, you know, you're a secular human that has

1139
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,519
some sort of status, but a little bit so what

1140
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,760
just in general, fame is one of those things where

1141
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,760
if you're just a person sitting in a room, how

1142
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,800
do you even know you're famous? You know? So fame

1143
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,320
is a very ethereal thing. But then there are people

1144
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,920
that can be sort of almost archetypes. And so I

1145
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,239
and I know, I've have other clients or some of

1146
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,760
my students have other clients who also have said, oh

1147
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,440
I'm marry Magdalena. And so I think that there can

1148
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:44,559
be sort of collective unconscious archetypes. So sometimes not everything

1149
01:04:44,639 --> 01:04:47,360
has to be literal in past life progressions. So sometimes

1150
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:52,079
when people go to fame, or it can be part

1151
01:04:52,199 --> 01:04:57,559
of a collective, subconscious teaching powable that we get. And

1152
01:04:57,599 --> 01:04:59,880
I'm not exactly sure how the mechanisms of it work.

1153
01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:02,679
They can't observe that. There are times where that comes

1154
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,440
up and I don't. And so, like Mark said, he

1155
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,599
could literally point in eighteen sixty here was a girl

1156
01:05:08,639 --> 01:05:12,039
in Boston in this and so I definitely have exactly

1157
01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:14,559
the same story with a bunch of people. But then

1158
01:05:14,599 --> 01:05:16,679
when you have something like Mary Magdalena, I think it's

1159
01:05:16,719 --> 01:05:21,159
more like tuning into a collective sort of spiritual lesson

1160
01:05:21,159 --> 01:05:23,079
that people are getting out of it, whether that's literal

1161
01:05:23,159 --> 01:05:25,079
or not. And so I think there's a part where

1162
01:05:25,079 --> 01:05:27,119
I think a lot of past lies really are literal,

1163
01:05:27,159 --> 01:05:29,840
most of them are. But there is definitely a segment

1164
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:34,639
of this work which is not necessarily literal. And it

1165
01:05:34,719 --> 01:05:37,960
may then not necessarily be something that is a criticism

1166
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,079
of it or a problem, but it is something that

1167
01:05:40,159 --> 01:05:42,760
is teaching in one way or another, some sort of

1168
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,920
spiritual lesson that people get out of it. But yeah,

1169
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,400
I do treat some and it does get a little

1170
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,639
tricky when you have that. You can treat it with

1171
01:05:49,679 --> 01:05:52,239
a grain of salt, or think in what way does

1172
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:56,079
this actually help this person heal whatever it is that

1173
01:05:56,119 --> 01:06:00,639
they had in this life. And so if they find

1174
01:06:00,639 --> 01:06:02,920
that there are past life and you had a client

1175
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,960
who also claims to being that person, but either way,

1176
01:06:06,119 --> 01:06:08,639
both of them had a lot of anxiety and after

1177
01:06:08,719 --> 01:06:11,519
that they no longer do well, then you know, the

1178
01:06:12,159 --> 01:06:14,320
ultimate purpose for the therapist is I don't really care

1179
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,480
how it works or why it works, but that it works.

1180
01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:20,039
And I'm not gonna like stamp on them and say, look,

1181
01:06:20,039 --> 01:06:23,079
I'm afraid I've thought about it and I found out

1182
01:06:23,079 --> 01:06:24,679
I have another client who was also this person, so

1183
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,079
it can't be true. So all this piece that you're feeling,

1184
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you know, please stop it and start feel anxious again. Awesome.

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Speaker 5: Well, Mark, we are coming up on the end of

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the show here. So your book Past Life Awakening, Seven

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Aggression Case Studies illustrate seven spiritual laws. That book came

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out in May and so it's relatively new out on

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the market. Where can people find it?

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Speaker 3: Amazon is always good. My website is Past Life Awakening

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Institute dot com and I've got a book page there

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and there are links to a bunch of retailers so

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they can get hard copies or paperbacks at stores around

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the world as well.

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Speaker 5: Fantastic Well Mark, thank you so much for coming Onunder

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the Show today. Everyone again, please get the book and

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do you have anything else coming up? You're kind of

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taking a vacation right now or traveling. How often do

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you do your training?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on the Never Ending Journey, so my training

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is remote. You know, for the last five years, I've

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been online the whole time, so people go to my

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and I've got YouTube, so I'm putting out YouTube videos

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and the podcast and book reviews that kind of thing,

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so people can go to the Past Life Awakening Institute,

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YouTube channel and Instagram. I put some things up occasionally

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Past Life Awakening and the training I do just around

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the clock, so it's very flexible what I mentor people,

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So it's off people that have had some healing experience

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but they want to be a professional. So I had

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some courses for people are interested to learn about it.

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But then I mentor people through the first thirty sessions

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they do with their first half a dozen clients, and

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I do that one to one people watch videos, learn

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how to do it, follow a process, and then I

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mental and we discuss all of the live client cases

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that they have and I do that year round. So

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if people want that kind of advanced level mentoring, even

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if they've got some healing background, or even if they've

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done past life aggression training to really get to that

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full professional level beyond the hobby istor an amateur, and

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that's something I help people with. So that's all on

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my website past Slife Awakening Institute.

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Speaker 5: Fantastic Well Mark again, thank you so much for coming

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on and good luck with the book and your future travels,

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and we may have to have you back here again soon.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful so much. Yeah, it's been great being I really appreciate.

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Speaker 5: Thank you well, thank you, and thank you everyone for

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listening to another edition of the Paranormal UK Radio Show,

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the flagship show here on the Paranormal UK Radio Network

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and Irene work and everybody find.

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Speaker 1: Us everywhere everywhere, paper everywhere, just far everywhere, everywhere.

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Speaker 5: All right, Thank you everybody, have a good week ahead

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and be good humans. We'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 3: Bye bye