1 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to season three. 2 00:00:14,599 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 2: Episode thirty six of Clips in Dim. I am Chuck Buckler, 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,920 joined by Adam Onsen. William Opdike is in Montana. He's 4 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,719 not with us today, but you will be with us 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,760 later in the week. Thank you for hanging out, thank 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,960 you for listening, Thank you for watching. If you caught 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,560 the earlier stream today after the Kawhi practice, newsover at 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,200 YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast, if you want 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,520 to go watch that, you can. It was a good time. 10 00:00:38,399 --> 00:00:40,000 We're gonna be talking about that today. We're gonna be 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,320 talking about the Clippers playing the MAVs, which is two games, 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,159 so you kind of get two game previews in one, 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,759 which is nice. But before we get into that, Adam 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,359 Kawhi Leonard is practicing fully. He's traveling with the team 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,640 to Dallas and to Memphis. He will not be playing, uh, 16 00:00:56,799 --> 00:00:59,240 but he is traveling. I know we've talked about it 17 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,840 quite a bit today. How does it feel at five 18 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,680 oh two pm? Are you as excited? It's a great 19 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,280 day for Clippers injury news all around. 20 00:01:08,079 --> 00:01:10,519 Speaker 3: Yeah. I just saw the social media post where Kawhi 21 00:01:10,599 --> 00:01:13,719 is getting on the plane, so we can confirm real 22 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,400 he is traveling with the team. He's back on the plane, 23 00:01:18,239 --> 00:01:20,680 and that's also a big test just to see how 24 00:01:20,719 --> 00:01:24,400 his knee handles the travel, because air travel is always 25 00:01:24,439 --> 00:01:28,239 so good for these injuries. So them seeing that as 26 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,480 a possibility right now or as something that's okay to do, 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,480 you know, Coach Lou said he's one hundred percent. Lom 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,920 Murray asked him that and he said, yeah, he feels good. 29 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,400 Now we'll find out how he feels tomorrow after going 30 00:01:42,439 --> 00:01:45,920 through more rigorous training. It's just step by step here. 31 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,959 Going through full contact five on five training today at 32 00:01:49,959 --> 00:01:53,239 practice is different than anything else he's done so far 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,599 on that right knee, to our knowledge, yes. 34 00:01:56,439 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: To our knowledge. Uh, the response, you know, this is 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,519 another one of the boxes, right the full contact practice, 36 00:02:02,599 --> 00:02:05,920 and then the next box is the response. Hopefully we 37 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,360 get the news that he's practicing with the team, you know, 38 00:02:08,439 --> 00:02:11,680 and just the normal capacity as he did today while 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,960 they're in Dallas and things like that. But pretty awesome. 40 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,000 Feels great, to be honest. Getting that news today felt 41 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:25,479 great and also coincided with Derek Jones Junior being seemingly 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,599 ahead of schedule. It seems like he should be returning 43 00:02:28,719 --> 00:02:31,319 around maybe the same time Kawi returns, which a lot 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,159 of people are I don't want to say signaling because 45 00:02:35,159 --> 00:02:38,759 that feels too aggressive, but the twenty seventh all signs 46 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,840 feel like it's pointing to Kawhi returning on the twenty 47 00:02:41,879 --> 00:02:43,759 seventh against the Warriors. 48 00:02:44,599 --> 00:02:48,159 Speaker 3: And teaching might be back sooner. Yeah, questionable for tomorrow's 49 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,039 game on the injury report now, and sounds like he's 50 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,080 way ahead of schedule. He didn't participate in everything at practice. 51 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,719 He was limited. But maybe he goes in Game two 52 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,840 against Dallas, or maybe he goes against Men this on Monday, 53 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:01,759 and that would be huge. 54 00:03:02,319 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about how huge you would be 55 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,840 versus Dallas because we're short on a large defenders for 56 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,800 that game for a team that has one particularly large 57 00:03:13,159 --> 00:03:16,199 guy who we need to stop. Before we get into 58 00:03:16,199 --> 00:03:18,960 the Dallas stuff, we're very excited about the Kawhi stuff. 59 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,000 We're recording this after the Clippers just obliterate the Jazz, 60 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:28,080 a game that we were not worried about but cautiously optimistic. 61 00:03:28,599 --> 00:03:31,159 We could have been a little more optimistic after what happened. 62 00:03:32,319 --> 00:03:34,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jazz, you made us look like idiots. You guys 63 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:35,199 got crushed. 64 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: Did that game go so well that there's not a 65 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,560 lot to take away from it? And I don't mean 66 00:03:40,599 --> 00:03:43,199 that in a mean way, but Harden had forty one. 67 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,800 He was nuclear. The defense did what they were like, 68 00:03:46,439 --> 00:03:48,680 is it almost like a game where they got blown out, 69 00:03:48,759 --> 00:03:51,080 where it's like, not burn the tape because you won, 70 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,439 but just say, great job. Keep it moving. 71 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,919 Speaker 3: The opposite of like the Boston game or the second 72 00:03:57,919 --> 00:04:01,319 Minnesota game and into a dome where what are you 73 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,680 supposed to do with this? How do you learn from this? 74 00:04:04,199 --> 00:04:07,280 Now you can say we learned. James Harden in those 75 00:04:07,319 --> 00:04:10,759 eight days off finally came into effect. Really the first 76 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,159 date game back against the Denver Nuggets, he didn't look great, 77 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,319 but that last game, the step back over and over again, 78 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,399 and it just seemed like to me, you know, I 79 00:04:21,399 --> 00:04:23,439 don't have the sports science on this, but he was 80 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,759 getting a little bit more lyft out there on those 81 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,319 three pointers that he was taking, and he felt really 82 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,079 comfortable taking that shot over and over again. And coach 83 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:38,120 Lusai's postgame he had told him to not sell the 84 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,959 foul as much and just get the shot up. And 85 00:04:42,439 --> 00:04:44,959 he has been hard on James Harden with some things here, 86 00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:48,079 and that was really cool to hear. And then the 87 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,360 way it played out with him knocking down what was 88 00:04:51,519 --> 00:04:52,800 you have seven threes but he. 89 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,199 Speaker 1: Got fouled on like at least three. Yeah, like. 90 00:04:59,079 --> 00:05:01,639 Speaker 3: It was. It was a incredible performance and it kind 91 00:05:01,639 --> 00:05:05,399 of shows what we thought might have been too much 92 00:05:05,439 --> 00:05:08,759 time off. Maybe it will pay dividends here down the 93 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,120 line in the upcoming games, as they have a couple 94 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,079 of really tough ones. 95 00:05:14,519 --> 00:05:18,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, the MAVs. So Luca didn't practice today, which is 96 00:05:18,879 --> 00:05:22,519 interesting from the MAVs perspective. I very much like the 97 00:05:22,519 --> 00:05:27,240 Clippers chances if Luca doesn't play, assuming Luca plays, because 98 00:05:27,319 --> 00:05:30,839 that's how things go. The MAVs are a pretty damn 99 00:05:30,879 --> 00:05:33,639 good team on paper. It pains me to say fourth 100 00:05:33,639 --> 00:05:36,639 in the Western Conference. They're fourth and offensive rating, they're 101 00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:39,879 eleventh in defensive rating. They're holding teams of forty five 102 00:05:39,879 --> 00:05:42,199 percent from the field, which is fifth best in the league. 103 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,959 They are top ten offensive rebounding and offensive rebounding percentage team, 104 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,839 so it's like a real percentage fourth, and field goal 105 00:05:49,879 --> 00:05:53,759 percentage six and three point percentage fifth, and free throw attempts. 106 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,680 This we've mentioned, you know, missing Derek Jones Junior is 107 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,079 big for this one because he would be very helpful. 108 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,360 But starting with the starting lineup, do you think Batom 109 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,160 starts because the big matchups are gonna be I'm assuming 110 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,800 Batum on Luca and Done on Kyrie. 111 00:06:13,439 --> 00:06:15,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I could definitely see that. I think that makes 112 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:18,120 a lot of sense. And that's why coach Lou when 113 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,839 he was being asked early on after DJ went down, 114 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,160 who you're starting in place of him? Is it gonna 115 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:24,720 be a mirror? Is it gonna be Batom? Is gonna 116 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,120 be a matchup dependent? And this is one where it 117 00:06:27,199 --> 00:06:30,519 calls put up the Batoomb signal. 118 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: I would take in the bagdad in this guy, he 119 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,120 should be the man for this job. 120 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,959 Speaker 3: He'd be the right guy for this job against Luka Dancic, 121 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,399 aside from the fact that he's so familiar with him, 122 00:06:46,439 --> 00:06:49,680 just having the bigger body out there, I'd feel good 123 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,040 about that. And I don't know how many minutes he 124 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,120 ended up playing against Utah, but it couldn't have been 125 00:06:55,199 --> 00:06:57,600 much as a mere coffee obviously was the guy who 126 00:06:57,639 --> 00:07:00,920 was playing late in that game, just because they didn't 127 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,800 have They only dressed eleven guys, so even though was starting. 128 00:07:05,319 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: Sixteen minutes and so. 129 00:07:08,399 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: He's well rested. And Emir actually had to play late 130 00:07:12,399 --> 00:07:15,519 in that game against Utah even though he started, and 131 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,040 they were up by thirty plus right because they didn't 132 00:07:19,079 --> 00:07:22,079 have anybody else. It was him and like Kai and 133 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:27,839 Bows and yeah KPJ and Jordan Miller. So I would go, 134 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,959 I would go Niko Batum. I would think that's going 135 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:30,879 to be coach loose call. 136 00:07:31,639 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: And if the whistle's crazy, which it has been weird 137 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,439 on Niko Batum, it's nice to have a mirror there. 138 00:07:36,519 --> 00:07:38,959 He's also going to be someone to make them think 139 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:41,720 about along the perimeter and stuff like that. He's had 140 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,279 a good season done on Kyrie. Is going to be 141 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,800 an all out battle, which I'm very excited to watch. 142 00:07:48,839 --> 00:07:50,879 I think Dun's going to come out ahead. We hope 143 00:07:50,959 --> 00:07:55,199 his injuries and illnesses is better, but he's going to 144 00:07:55,319 --> 00:07:59,120 have like the toughest assignment of anybody on defense outside 145 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,600 of whoever's guarding Luka if Luca plays, but Dunn is 146 00:08:02,639 --> 00:08:04,160 going to be asked to do a lot. I think 147 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,959 he can, but that is a fascinating matchup. 148 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,879 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised. Also, if he's on Lucas some 149 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,240 of the time. That's somebody that can guard obviously multiple 150 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:21,439 positions at such a high level, and it's always the 151 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:26,160 dungeon is an interesting subplot to each and every Clippers game. Now, 152 00:08:26,199 --> 00:08:29,639 who's Chris Done guarding? Because whether or not that guy 153 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,840 has the ball, if you're watching the way Chris Done 154 00:08:32,879 --> 00:08:36,799 is guarding his man, eventually he's going to get into 155 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,639 the play because even if he's guarding someone else and 156 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,000 they don't have the ball, he's going to jump a 157 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,720 passing lane. He's going to help out on someone is. 158 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:50,120 It's really incredible. The effort and the amount of energy 159 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,279 that he gives on the defensive end, it's special. I think, 160 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,919 really he might be the best perimeter defender ever honestly and. 161 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: Clubs. 162 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 3: I mean, like Kawi his best might be. But I 163 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,200 think he's better than Patrick Beverly. I do because of 164 00:09:08,279 --> 00:09:09,399 his size. 165 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a little bigger. 166 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he gambles and takes as many 167 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,159 chances as Patrick Beverley did, which sometimes got him into trouble. 168 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,919 I love Pat Bevy's an all time favorite Clipper of mine, 169 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,600 but I think just off skill set and the amount 170 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,960 of guys he can guard, and the way he baits 171 00:09:26,039 --> 00:09:29,679 people into thinking that he's not going to be there 172 00:09:29,759 --> 00:09:31,440 or not going to be able to cover that ground, 173 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,200 and then he gets back into the passing lane. I 174 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,120 don't know. It is like this is one of the 175 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,200 special defenders in the modern era. 176 00:09:40,799 --> 00:09:42,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he'll have to have He'll have to be 177 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,039 at the top of this game tomorrow on Saturday for 178 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,799 the Clippers to get a win against Dallas. I wouldn't 179 00:09:48,799 --> 00:09:51,240 be surprised if they split this two game thing. You know, 180 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,440 if Derek Jones Junior comes back, I like their chances 181 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,600 in that game a lot more than a game without 182 00:09:55,679 --> 00:10:00,840 Derek Jones Jr. Bos had his bounce back game that 183 00:10:00,879 --> 00:10:02,639 we kind of wanted from him against the Jazz. He 184 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,799 puts up nineteen and twelve, two great blocks. He's gonna 185 00:10:07,799 --> 00:10:10,320 be leaned on for sure. If their defense is playing 186 00:10:10,399 --> 00:10:14,399 better than the eleventh, which isn't bad, We're gonna need 187 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,279 to go to him for those easy buckets and stuff 188 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:21,399 like that. I'm wondering who's guarding hard for the maps. 189 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:33,399 I think Kyrie's too small. Washington, Okay, that Washington. Yeah, 190 00:10:33,799 --> 00:10:35,720 they're gonna try and get I mean, we talk about this. 191 00:10:35,759 --> 00:10:37,919 Every time we play Luca, they're gonna try and get 192 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,799 Luca switched on to Harden or they should. They need 193 00:10:40,799 --> 00:10:43,399 to put Luca in as much defensive stuff as possible. 194 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,639 They had Luca on Andrew Wiggins their last game out 195 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,799 versus the Warriors, and so I'm just wanted they're gonna 196 00:10:49,799 --> 00:10:52,720 put Luca on Nico like. 197 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: And you know, when we talk about a team that 198 00:11:02,879 --> 00:11:05,320 is playing this well in the Dallas Mavericks and has 199 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:12,240 a defensive rating like this, it does tell you that. Obviously, 200 00:11:12,519 --> 00:11:15,159 they have two guys that are known as SIVs defensively 201 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,960 in the starting lineup right and Luca and Kyrie. But 202 00:11:19,039 --> 00:11:21,440 I said going into that series last year, guys, they 203 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,279 are playing better defense than you realize. You can't have 204 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,360 this defensive rating if there's two of your three players 205 00:11:28,399 --> 00:11:32,320 out there that are that bad. It doesn't make sense. 206 00:11:32,879 --> 00:11:35,399 So he has been giving a better effort there and 207 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,799 they kind of turn things around after that slow start. 208 00:11:37,879 --> 00:11:40,759 They were hanging around five hundred. Now they've taken off 209 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,480 last ten games with the number two offense in the league. 210 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:48,879 So they're playing tremendous basketball right now. It's a scary opponent. 211 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,000 And I also think like the Clippers, they have really 212 00:11:53,039 --> 00:11:57,480 good vibes. They have great chemistry, and that gets Luca 213 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,639 and Kyrie to buying in to playing d defense too. 214 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,440 I think, just like it does with James Harden. At times. Yes, 215 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,320 it's selective with these guys that are asked to do 216 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,279 so much on the offensive end, but it's not nothing either, 217 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,480 Like they aren't thirtieth defensively, they're eleven. 218 00:12:15,639 --> 00:12:18,879 Speaker 1: Norm is going to be an issue for for Dallas. 219 00:12:18,919 --> 00:12:22,159 We saw they had Kyrie on Steph for the majority 220 00:12:22,159 --> 00:12:24,639 of their game their last game, which I thought was interesting. 221 00:12:24,759 --> 00:12:27,720 Obviously Norm doesn't do as much for the overall offense. 222 00:12:27,759 --> 00:12:30,759 You know that Steph has responsibility wise, but shooting wise, 223 00:12:30,799 --> 00:12:33,240 you're gonna want to knock Norm off his rhythm if 224 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,000 you're the other team. The Nuggets had Jamal Murray did 225 00:12:36,039 --> 00:12:39,200 a great job on him two games ago. Obviously the 226 00:12:39,279 --> 00:12:41,120 Jazz are horrible at defense. We're not going to talk 227 00:12:41,159 --> 00:12:46,159 about that, but this backcourt kind of poses an issue. 228 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,440 I like the issues that our backcourt poses for the 229 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,559 Maps because if the team's able to hit a shot, 230 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,759 if they're you know, sagging off him or something like that, 231 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,000 and Norm is able to not you know, get knocked 232 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,960 off his rhythm physically. It's like it's kind of a problem, 233 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,159 or could be, I should say kind of a problem. 234 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:11,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I I don't hate, you know, seeing a team 235 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:14,679 like this at this time. Yeah, because first of all, 236 00:13:16,039 --> 00:13:18,799 the Clickers are coming off a big blowout victory where 237 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,440 their confidence is at an all time high, and everybody 238 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,159 found a groove. That game was incredible because even though 239 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,519 James Harden has forty one and twenty four points in 240 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,759 the first quarter. Carlo Amennez brought this up, but it's 241 00:13:30,799 --> 00:13:32,919 amazing how everybody else was able to stay in the 242 00:13:32,919 --> 00:13:34,720 flow of the offense and be that efficient. At the 243 00:13:34,759 --> 00:13:38,879 same time, while one guy's doing that much damage, everybody 244 00:13:38,919 --> 00:13:41,600 else was still touching the basketball. Everybody else was still 245 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:46,120 in a rhythm. So I like the way they're heading 246 00:13:46,159 --> 00:13:48,840 into Dallas. That could change after tomorrow night. 247 00:13:49,159 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, leaving might be different, but yeah. 248 00:13:53,720 --> 00:14:01,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, be careful what you wish for. But it's getting 249 00:14:01,759 --> 00:14:02,159 worse here. 250 00:14:04,879 --> 00:14:05,279 Speaker 1: Can you hear me? 251 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:05,879 Speaker 3: All right? Check? 252 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got you. There's an alert going off. 253 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:10,759 Speaker 3: I lost you there for a second. 254 00:14:10,879 --> 00:14:12,039 Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm good. 255 00:14:13,039 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 3: No, this is the right time for this. And coach 256 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,200 Leu stressed something else again earlier today at practice that 257 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,080 we've been talking about a bunch of charles, which is, 258 00:14:20,879 --> 00:14:23,399 if there was a time to have all these injuries 259 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,840 going on, it the best timing was now. Yeah, no 260 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,639 perfect time, but the best time would be right now 261 00:14:30,679 --> 00:14:33,279 in the schedule because the guys are missing the fewest 262 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,559 amount of games possible that are out because they have 263 00:14:35,639 --> 00:14:37,799 so many few games on the schedule at the moment. 264 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird. It's all kind of coming together for 265 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,120 the Clippers, which none of us are really used to, 266 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,960 with Kawhi coming back and Derek Jones Jr. And Darren's 267 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,039 man not having to miss as many games as we thought. 268 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I only DJ is questionable, Like, yeah, I thought 269 00:14:53,159 --> 00:14:54,480 for sure he's out the next three. 270 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: It's I don't know if astonishing isn't the right word, 271 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,000 but it is. I would say I'm a little cautious 272 00:15:03,039 --> 00:15:05,919 about it because it is a hamstring. It's not something 273 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,200 that you necessarily want to play with, and maybe, you know, 274 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,720 maybe I don't know if tomorrow's result dictates if he'll 275 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,799 be back for Saturday. But the rotation, this is a 276 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:18,840 great segue. We're gonna do a quick little ad break 277 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,279 before we talk about the bench, because being down these 278 00:15:21,279 --> 00:15:23,720 guys on the bench is kind of a nightmare. So 279 00:15:23,759 --> 00:15:25,799 if you're listening to us on audio, there'sill be a 280 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,799 quick break and then we're coming back and talking The 281 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,320 Clippers versus Mas bench battle's going to take place on 282 00:15:31,399 --> 00:15:33,919 Thursday and Saturday. We got ads coming up in three 283 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:35,120 two one. 284 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: Welcome back in you're tuned in with clips and dip. 285 00:15:38,879 --> 00:15:41,000 I'm out a maslam. We got Chuck Mockler, no w' 286 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,879 will Updyke for this one, but Clippers in Dallas for 287 00:15:43,919 --> 00:15:47,200 a two game in the series starting tomorrow night. Kawhi 288 00:15:47,279 --> 00:15:49,799 Leonard the big news earlier today. He's traveling with the team. 289 00:15:49,879 --> 00:15:54,399 He participated in full contact at practice, was doing five 290 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,039 on five stuff. So good news, bad news. I guess 291 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,080 it's overall and that positive. Oh, Kawhy participate in full 292 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,480 of contact and is traveling with the team, but he's 293 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,879 not playing on the road trip. Oh well, we will 294 00:16:07,919 --> 00:16:11,960 take it. Everything seems to be lining up for December 295 00:16:12,039 --> 00:16:16,360 twenty seventh, if there are no setbacks. So you want 296 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:18,919 to talk about some of the backups and the lack 297 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,519 of production we've been getting in that area, Chuck Yeah. 298 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:27,639 Speaker 1: So the Clippers are and I say this respectfully, somehow 299 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,759 twelfth in bench scoring this year per I believe I 300 00:16:31,799 --> 00:16:35,000 got that from stat muse. The MAVs are twentieth. But 301 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,919 we're roster crunched right now, like without Derek Jones Junior, 302 00:16:39,919 --> 00:16:41,919 who would be a starter and that would obviously push 303 00:16:42,159 --> 00:16:44,720 Amir Niko still on the bench, and Terrence Mann, who 304 00:16:44,799 --> 00:16:47,519 was a defensive stalwart off the bench and starting to 305 00:16:47,519 --> 00:16:52,120 get his rhythm. Like this, it has me uneasy. It's 306 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,200 had us uneasy the last couple of games like this 307 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,960 is a game where Will Updike talks about it a lot. 308 00:16:58,039 --> 00:17:01,440 We need that one guy to be yet fifteen to 309 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:06,200 twenty percent over what he usually is, because you know, 310 00:17:06,519 --> 00:17:09,680 the the rotations have gotten wonky in Dallas is a 311 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,480 pretty big team, you know. And our bencher for running 312 00:17:12,519 --> 00:17:16,519 these multiple guards lines like I'm I'm just curious what 313 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:20,240 tis rotations are gonna be, right, Like, we can't run 314 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:27,039 KPJ and Bones together. I don't think against this team. 315 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 3: I would hope not. Especially KPJ looked pretty bad the 316 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,160 other night. Yeah, from the very beginning, he missed his 317 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,759 first seven shots against Utah. There was one bad performance 318 00:17:39,759 --> 00:17:43,319 against the Utah Jazz pretty much Kevin Ford Junior who 319 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,359 came in and just didn't seem focused. He was so 320 00:17:46,519 --> 00:17:47,759 careless with the basketball. 321 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: He got a couple. I was like, why are you 322 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,359 getting a tech right now? Dude? We're up like thirty. 323 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,440 Just let whatever is happening go. 324 00:17:58,839 --> 00:18:01,799 Speaker 3: It felt like a severe lack of seriousness out there 325 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,559 by him in that game against the Utah Jazz. He's 326 00:18:05,599 --> 00:18:08,960 got to be more locked in. If Bones Hyland gets run, 327 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,160 I'm guessing it's with him off the court. Bones has 328 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,880 to be more consistent with his play possession to possession 329 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:21,640 two those two guys. Unfortunately, during this time with Terrence 330 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,359 Man out and with DJ out two, nobody's really set 331 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,000 themselves apart. Even Jordan Miller has struggled the last two games. 332 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,960 And I was really hoping, you know, the state ready mentality, 333 00:18:35,039 --> 00:18:37,839 next man up mentality this Clippers team has. It's not 334 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,240 like they're not giving effort or anything like that, because 335 00:18:40,319 --> 00:18:44,279 nobody's really caught a groove. Nobody is you know, put 336 00:18:44,279 --> 00:18:46,279 a spotlight on them and said, hey, what about me 337 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,720 for more minutes because I'm proving something right now with 338 00:18:48,759 --> 00:18:52,640 the guys who are out that hasn't happened. Nobody's really emerged, 339 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,880 and that's a little bit disappointing, and from a bench 340 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:00,440 that already you know, is lacking some consistency, and especially 341 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,319 from a scoring perspective where they're often seen with Visa 342 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,039 Zubats out there just to have somebody for some stability, yeah, 343 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,440 and somebody that you can go to to get a bucket. 344 00:19:11,079 --> 00:19:13,440 But outside of that, I just don't know what Kevin 345 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,880 Porter Junior is doing possession to possession or how he's 346 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,519 going to perform possession to possession sometimes, and that just 347 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:22,799 seems a little bit, a little bit scary, like it 348 00:19:22,839 --> 00:19:26,200 is a wide variance and a wide spectrum with his play. 349 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: Do you think we get a crunched down rotation tomorrow night? 350 00:19:31,519 --> 00:19:34,160 We had? We saw all the normal starters right with 351 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,119 the mirror in there, and then Nico kpj Bamba, Jordan 352 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,079 Miller bones, I'm not counting Kai because he played five minutes. 353 00:19:41,279 --> 00:19:44,720 Do you I don't know if with Kauai coming back, 354 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,319 I would not be surprised if we see a shortened 355 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,599 rotation with Kawi coming back soon. Ash I should say, 356 00:19:51,799 --> 00:19:53,680 don't want anyone to clip that and take it out 357 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,039 of context, do we think I wouldn't be surprised if 358 00:19:58,039 --> 00:20:01,279 we see a shorter rotation, just to kind of see 359 00:20:01,319 --> 00:20:03,519 how people are reacting. I don't know, maybe one of 360 00:20:03,559 --> 00:20:07,839 the games, because we can't that that bench makes me nervous. 361 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 3: Well, they only dressed what eleven guys for that game 362 00:20:12,279 --> 00:20:17,400 against the Utah Jazz, and everybody scored except Kai, who 363 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,119 got in late. 364 00:20:18,599 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: So funny. 365 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,559 Speaker 3: I just I don't know if anybody has made their 366 00:20:23,599 --> 00:20:27,720 case or really stood out enough to hold on to 367 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:33,799 a role while you're missing two really key rotation role 368 00:20:33,799 --> 00:20:37,960 players in Terrence and DJ. Somebody has got to step 369 00:20:38,039 --> 00:20:39,920 up in these two games in Dallas. To your point 370 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,119 about what Will always talks about, somebody's got to play 371 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,440 above their heads. Somebody has has to, you know, give 372 00:20:46,519 --> 00:20:49,640 coach lose some confidence in them that this is a 373 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,680 decent matchup against Dallas and I can go to this 374 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,519 guy and just know what I'm gonna get. And I 375 00:20:56,559 --> 00:21:01,880 would love to see that be KPJ or Jordan. I 376 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,759 just don't know how much Bone is gonna play to 377 00:21:03,799 --> 00:21:06,799 begin with, so I'll start with those two guys. But 378 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,000 maybe it's just a mere coffee. Maybe if Batuma is 379 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:14,480 starting this game. That means he's probably starting Saturday against 380 00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:16,400 Luke and we don't know if he's starting tomorrow night, 381 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,319 but which just conjecture. We're guessing he's starting against Luka Dancic. 382 00:21:20,799 --> 00:21:24,720 But a mere Coffee was really good once again against Utah. 383 00:21:24,839 --> 00:21:27,640 He found his shooting stroke, and I think that's significant. 384 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,880 That's a big deal because when this Clippers team was 385 00:21:31,079 --> 00:21:35,119 getting by and we've talked about them playing above their heads, 386 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,599 a Mere Coffee has been a big part of that. 387 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,119 He's shooting forty one percent or over that from the 388 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,119 field or from three so far this season. If Ameer 389 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,480 could just have a really good two game series against Dallas, who, 390 00:21:46,599 --> 00:21:50,440 by the way, didn't play well in that playoff series, 391 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,200 I wonder if individually this is something maybe he's circling like, 392 00:21:55,319 --> 00:21:58,400 you know what, I I gotta do better against this team. 393 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,599 Now they don't have Derek Jones junior there, of course 394 00:22:00,599 --> 00:22:03,480 it's different. But I'd love to see a Mere Coffee, 395 00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:06,400 you know, average thirteen per game against Dallas. 396 00:22:06,839 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: That would mean, yeah, I forget he played really bad 397 00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:13,279 against Dallas. Guy who worries me on their bench because 398 00:22:13,319 --> 00:22:14,960 he I feel like he has a good game against 399 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,200 US every time we played Daniel Gafford. You talk about 400 00:22:18,279 --> 00:22:24,200 testing the Clippers backup center, power forward depth. Daniel Gafford 401 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,200 is going to do that Thursday and Saturday. The defense 402 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,039 on him is going to be interesting. Mobama is going 403 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:35,079 to have to be at his best. Whatever version of 404 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:43,279 that is bright it's like seventy plus percent. Yeah, it's 405 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:48,480 kind of insane. We im worrying about him. Spencer Dinwiddie 406 00:22:48,519 --> 00:22:50,200 is a guy who I'm like, I never know what 407 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,440 to expect. Usually it's bad, is my vibe with Spencer Dinwiddie. 408 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,160 But I'm worried about Gafford and Quinton Grimes had a 409 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,200 pretty solid game off the bench for them last I 410 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,640 haven't watched a bunch of the maps. He hasn't had 411 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,720 like an elite season really, but he's shooting forty one 412 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,920 percent from three, which worries me. I'm just you know what, 413 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,960 we talk about putting Luca into action, They're gonna want 414 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:18,000 to put whoever our backup guards are and center, which 415 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,200 is gonna be Bomba into a bunch of actions. So 416 00:23:20,279 --> 00:23:25,240 like the bench minutes, winning the non Luca minutes obviously crucial, 417 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,279 Winning the non Kyrie minutes crucial but these bench minutes, man, 418 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,039 I'm hoping. Maybe I'm being too pessimistic. We just got 419 00:23:31,039 --> 00:23:34,759 a break even in these all bench minutes lineups, and 420 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:37,079 I'm counting that, like if a mirror Nico's out there, 421 00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:37,839 whoever started? 422 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you know I Viasa Zubats gets even more 423 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,240 time with the bench, and him coming off that big 424 00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:47,799 game and him being more of a focal point gets 425 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,400 them to lean into Big Zoo on offense with the 426 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,039 second unit, because he actually was good against Dallas in 427 00:23:55,079 --> 00:23:58,400 that playoff series, especially when they actually try to feature 428 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,279 him that game one. He was the best player Alis 429 00:24:02,279 --> 00:24:06,000 and he was feasting against Lively and gafferd. Lively was 430 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,559 dealing with a lot of personal stuff in that first 431 00:24:08,599 --> 00:24:14,599 round series, but Gafford was no match for him Big Zoom. 432 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,000 If he gets up for these two games, for the 433 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:24,680 solution just staggering him and having him start the second quarter, I. 434 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,599 Speaker 1: Like that idea a lot, actually having him start the 435 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,960 second quarter, because we just need that kind of call 436 00:24:30,079 --> 00:24:34,359 me presence, like from the defensive side and the offensive side. 437 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,000 Just get it into Zoo and we'll see what happens. 438 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,119 I'm excited for these games like you were. Saying it's 439 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,759 a perfect kind of momentum to go into these we 440 00:24:42,839 --> 00:24:47,160 all hate the Mavericks. It's Chris Dunn and Luke kind 441 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,640 of have history, which I forgot about. The Lab of 442 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,920 the Jam posted that clip. Both of them got teed 443 00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:54,359 up at one point when he was on the Jazz, 444 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,160 So like, I like that. I'm sure Terrence Man and 445 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,480 it's telling Chris Dunn all he can about guarding Luca, 446 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,200 and they're sharing secrets and stuff. So this is I 447 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,359 wish this was I wish these were in LA obviously, 448 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,960 but there's a good This is a real litmus test 449 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,119 for this Clippers team right now. I know we're out 450 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,079 there Jones Junior and Terrence Man, and there's are kind 451 00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:17,440 of some built in excuses or whatever should things not 452 00:25:17,519 --> 00:25:19,480 go well for both of these games. But I think 453 00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:22,640 they split, and I think we're going to learn a 454 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,519 lot about what they look like against and upper echelon 455 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,400 maybe not quite elite team. 456 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:37,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, and well no, I think. I mean, they made 457 00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:39,960 the files last year and they look really good now. 458 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,519 It took some time. They look elite lately, you could say, 459 00:25:43,519 --> 00:25:46,000 I guess, yeah, yeah. 460 00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:46,279 Speaker 1: I'll take that. 461 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And they have the high end talent. If Lucas playing, 462 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,279 he has what a heel injury he's been dealing with, 463 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,079 but he played through it spectacularly against the Golden State 464 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,759 Warriors in their last victory where they had eighty points 465 00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:05,279 at that half. I think they were going off. I 466 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,960 wonder what it does just having Kawhi Leonard with them 467 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,480 on the road trip and knowing that the Calvalry is 468 00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:16,319 on the way, they are getting close. Because we've talked 469 00:26:16,319 --> 00:26:20,440 about in the past, how when role players are asked 470 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,799 to be to do so much more because Kawhi and 471 00:26:23,839 --> 00:26:27,519 Paul George have been out so frequently, it takes its toll, 472 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,440 and it can be defeating and demoralizing. I wonder now 473 00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:34,480 if this is the shot in the arm that they need, 474 00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:38,759 having Kawhi with them, knowing that he's coming and wanting 475 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:43,319 to be sharp and wanting to be have your timing 476 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,799 right so when Kawhi comes in, you know, it's not 477 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:50,799 too much of an adjustment period because you're already doing 478 00:26:50,839 --> 00:26:53,279 the things the right way out there on the court, 479 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,279 and Kawhi is one of the highest IQ basketball players 480 00:26:56,319 --> 00:26:58,680 ever and that's not going to be an issue for 481 00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:01,319 him to mesh with the team that's already clicking. 482 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it makes it easier for Kawhi, Right, there's 483 00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:05,759 gonna be a little bit of rust just because he's 484 00:27:05,759 --> 00:27:08,000 coming back from so long, But like, if everyone else 485 00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:12,720 is doing their job, it's the best possible scenario. Now 486 00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:14,519 we get to the most important part of the night, 487 00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:17,759 our Player of the Game picks for the two game series. 488 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,640 I will I said I was gonna do a live 489 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,839 after the Jazz game if the Clippers lost. They ended 490 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,680 up winning, So I will be doing a live after 491 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,640 the game tomorrow night. Adam, who is your Player of 492 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,079 the Game pick, since we cannot pick James Harden, Norm 493 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,960 Powell or Aviatza Zubos. 494 00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:38,759 Speaker 3: I think I talked myself into it. I'm going to 495 00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:41,359 merre Coffee Revenge Tour in Dallas. 496 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: Hell. 497 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 3: Everything's bigger in Dallas, including retribution or in Texas that 498 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,240 sounds like a tagline. 499 00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:53,799 Speaker 1: For like a Walker Texas Ranger movie, including Mere. 500 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 3: Coffee is going to roundhouse those guys. 501 00:27:56,759 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope. So I'm gonna go, uh Christa and 502 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,039 it's going to be It feels like an easy pick 503 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,759 because if Chris Dunn has two good games, I feel 504 00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:09,480 pretty confident in the Clippers having two good games in Dallas. 505 00:28:09,519 --> 00:28:11,480 He's going to be a menace against Kyrie's going to 506 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:15,799 annoy Luca and just shoot thirty four percent from three. 507 00:28:16,079 --> 00:28:18,559 Just shoot thirty four percent from three of these two games. 508 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,039 Keep being a bully in the paint with your offense, 509 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,200 and I will I will be pretty hyped on that. 510 00:28:25,599 --> 00:28:29,079 If Will were here, I think he would probably pick 511 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,640 and we were He picked a mirror last time and 512 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:41,960 that didn't go very well. Give yeah, Will you picked KPJ. 513 00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:47,319 He'll make three threes and hopefully play normal good defense 514 00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:51,319 and get boards in each game. Really quick? How are 515 00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:54,880 we feeling about the Memphis game on Monday? Just very 516 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,400 broad strokes. Memphis a difficult team, kind of a matchup 517 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,480 for for this clip because they're young in their spry. 518 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:10,279 Speaker 3: Memphis is another team that has found themselves. I think 519 00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:13,440 they had won like something crazy like twelve or thirty 520 00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:17,519 team before losing to the Lake of It. It just 521 00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:21,799 didn't show up at all. Memphis. I'd said, one team 522 00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:24,839 everybody's forgetting about when you talk about the Western Conference 523 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,839 is the Memphis Grizzlies. Win healthy. The last two times 524 00:29:28,839 --> 00:29:32,079 were a top three seats, right, They just hadn't been 525 00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:35,240 healthy as to forget about them. After what happened last season, 526 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,960 Memphis is right back in the mix of looking like 527 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,440 a top four team in the Western Conference. They're that 528 00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:49,640 good and well, yeah, I think they're two or three. 529 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like and they're eighteen and nine. I was 530 00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:55,079 just looking at it. Yeah, they're two by a half game. 531 00:29:56,839 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 3: The one thing that always, you know, tradition only gave 532 00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:04,720 the Clippers so many problems though, was their perimeter defense 533 00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:08,599 with quick guards like John Morant over the years. But 534 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,920 with the way this team is constructed, if they get 535 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,799 Derek Jones Junior back for that game, if they have 536 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,559 you know, Chris Dunn and him out there in the 537 00:30:16,599 --> 00:30:19,960 starting lineup, I feel much better about going up against 538 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,480 a guy like Job now I don't. I don't fear 539 00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:25,599 those guys as much him, Dear and Fox like I 540 00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:28,000 used to in past years. With the way this Clippers 541 00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:30,720 team is now put together. 542 00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:33,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that that we have that again. Back 543 00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:35,359 to the Chris Dune thing, right, we have a guy 544 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,160 who can really kind of make it difficult for him. 545 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,720 I'm feeling cautiously optimistic Memphis. It's they're just a good 546 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,160 ass team. We'll have a well. 547 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 3: Coach Luke called those two guys a shutdown corners. Yeah. Uh, 548 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,880 he always calls them KD Chris Dunn and DJ Derreck 549 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,559 Jones Jr. Who are the uh good corners for the 550 00:30:57,599 --> 00:31:00,359 Dolphins in the nineties. They had two really good corners 551 00:31:01,119 --> 00:31:05,279 late nineties, early two thousands, not Chambers. They were they 552 00:31:05,319 --> 00:31:09,519 were solid. Oh was it was Patrick's curtain there? 553 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,039 Speaker 1: Yes, Patrick's curtain was there? Are you talking about JB. 554 00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:20,039 Speaker 3: Brown? No, I'm going I'm going back like this may 555 00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:25,359 be late nineties Dolphins cornerbacks. I really like these guys. 556 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,079 I think Sam Madison. 557 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,839 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Sam Madison is a yeah Dolphin great, he 558 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,440 was a beast. 559 00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Sorry, no relate, Look what happened. 560 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,759 Speaker 1: Damn well. I appreciate that they should just lose and 561 00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:44,839 they get a better draft pick. But that's a conversation 562 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,359 for a different podcast. Thank you one for hanging out. 563 00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:50,599 We're gonna have a live stream on Thursday after the game. 564 00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:53,160 Adam will be on Clippers Talk. We're probably gonna do 565 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,839 a new episode on Tuesday, maybe Sunday. Of holiday things 566 00:31:56,839 --> 00:31:59,599 fall into place, I don't know. There's also gonna be 567 00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:02,119 a postgame live hang on Monday as well. If you 568 00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:06,119 watched the Henny Ween streams, this next week is going 569 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,319 to be that same vibe, but Christmas Eve because I 570 00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:10,359 have an entire week of work off and I'm hanging out. 571 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,759 So bring your favorite Christmas drink to these lives. You 572 00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:18,440 can listen to us anywhere you get podcasts. We appreciate it. 573 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,400 If you'd like to watch us, you can watch us 574 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,640 at YouTube dot com just at Clippers podcast any subscribe, 575 00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:27,480 any interaction, We love it, Adam. Before we get out 576 00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:30,200 of here, one positive thing for the Clippers, which I 577 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,839 think I might know what you're gonna reference and then 578 00:32:32,839 --> 00:32:34,160 we will send these people on their way. 579 00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:38,359 Speaker 3: I'm gonna reference to Clippers playing lights. 580 00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:41,839 Speaker 1: Out, all right, more props. 581 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 3: Sorry it did work last time, though they did play 582 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,559 lights out against Utah. I mean, how about lights on 583 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,759 for the thinkers. The light bulbs back on for this team. 584 00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:54,039 This is a team they know very well in the 585 00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:57,680 Dallas Mavericks that they have played underman against in the past. 586 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,799 I like you think they're going to somehow get the 587 00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:05,400 split against Dallas. They need to, because just you gotta 588 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,440 go at least one to two on this way, to 589 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,960 get a victory. It's not gonna be easy, but I 590 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,440 think they're gonna scrap their way to a victory in Dallas. 591 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's scrap our way to a victory 592 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,960 in Dallas. We will scrap together a live hang after 593 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,680 the game tomorrow. Thank you all for hanging out. Check 594 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,640 out the lives that we did. We both did on 595 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,039 Clippers Talk and today if you want to see some 596 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,119 genuine hype from Clippers fans about Kawhi returning hopefully on 597 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,799 the twenty seventh. As always, it's been a pleasure I've 598 00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:32,839 been Chuck Wockler and