Speaker 1: It's nice eyes. I'm Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, al, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Brian Johnson, I couldn't remember. I almost said Brian Jones,
Speaker 2: but I knew that wasn't right. Brian Johnson, Lead Center
Speaker 2: of ac DC. Welcome back Night Side again Friday Night.
Speaker 2: You never know what's going to happen, like you have.
Speaker 2: This is what happens. Is your book a guest? All right,
Speaker 2: and you really are excited about having the guests, but
Speaker 2: you know, Rob, the guest forgets the get Are you
Speaker 2: in like the coat room of a restaurant? Sam Metler?
Speaker 3: If I had a coat, I'd probably be in there.
Speaker 2: I don't want to keep you too long, buddy, what
Speaker 2: restaurant are you at?
Speaker 3: You got me? I'm done? Oh you're done.
Speaker 2: Oh you're done. You're in the car. You're in the car.
Speaker 3: Yes, I am dan?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, Well that's cool. How Susie.
Speaker 3: Susie is wonderful. You'll get it.
Speaker 4: This is a radio show. You it's supposed to be
Speaker 4: me one on one.
Speaker 2: No, dude, now I want to talk to Susie. No,
Speaker 2: never mind, I'm kidding. Sam. You have to understand when
Speaker 2: I get behind him, like now, I've been doing this
Speaker 2: too long. Like whatever happens happens. I don't have time
Speaker 2: for rules. I really don't. It doesn't matter. I hope
Speaker 2: you had a nice dinner, my friend, I really do.
Speaker 3: We did.
Speaker 4: I almost swore, but I won't because I'm a professional.
Speaker 2: You're a professional. Okay. Look, so I'm looking at the numbers.
Speaker 2: I come I come back from Vegas. Down fifty bucks,
Speaker 2: just down fifty bucks. It's all. I'm looking at the
Speaker 2: numbers of this presidential race, and everything's pretty much dead.
Speaker 2: Even are you surprised it happened as quickly. I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not because it's fresh.
Speaker 4: It's well all putting up putt in quotation marks young. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because of course, you know, if we're grading this on
Speaker 4: a curve, Gamala is practically practically infantile compared to well,
Speaker 4: both her president and the former president. Uh so that's
Speaker 4: a big deal. It's a woman, it's a woman of color.
Speaker 4: And now the Democrats are energized because they've got someone
Speaker 4: to be energized about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and coming up with the bucks, coming up with
Speaker 2: the money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I mean that debate.
Speaker 4: And the interviews he had after the debate did not help,
Speaker 4: and it took so many folks intervening, right, I mean,
Speaker 4: the most powerful politicians in this country. We're begging him,
Speaker 4: please please please give us the keys.
Speaker 3: Well you're done.
Speaker 2: President Obama doesn't get more powerful than that. Sure, sure,
Speaker 2: you know this is crazy, Sam, Sam, I have to energeer.
Speaker 2: This is crazy. It really, this shows where we are.
Speaker 2: It was President Obama and George freaking Clooney.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well they say that Washington is Hollywood for the ugly.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right. Yeah, because look a lot of money,
Speaker 2: a lot of money comes out of Hollywood, including was
Speaker 2: representing that money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I know a lot of money has now
Speaker 4: started to flow back in, right because the donors said, uhh.
Speaker 3: He's there.
Speaker 4: No, you know, and they shut the first string and
Speaker 4: you know now you know they're opening them up again.
Speaker 4: And this is a honeymoon. I still want to see
Speaker 4: what they do in the convention, and I want to
Speaker 4: see how she does it a debate, because the Democrats
Speaker 4: are great at screwing things up.
Speaker 3: They are.
Speaker 4: They shoot themselves in the foot so often. Not that
Speaker 4: the Republicans, but you know the Republicans, you know, they.
Speaker 3: Stay on script.
Speaker 4: Right, Trump is nowhere near a true conservative.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Trump is Trump, He's there for him. He doesn't care
Speaker 4: about policy, he doesn't care really about anyone but Trump.
Speaker 4: So and he is vicious if you cross him. And
Speaker 4: so everyone has gotten in line, sir and saluting. The
Speaker 4: Democrats don't do that. The Democrats fight constantly about who
Speaker 4: they are and who they want and and and perfect.
Speaker 4: They want perfect, right, They won't compromise on a lot
Speaker 4: of legislation because they want perfect and as the Democrats
Speaker 4: big problem, they just can't agree on anything. And you've
Speaker 4: got Wolke factions that you've got moderate factions.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you're a perfect example of that. I mean,
Speaker 2: you consider yourself a moderate, and quite frankly, that's why
Speaker 2: you're back on the show because I enjoy your your
Speaker 2: your viewpoints and your objectivity. But you're right about the
Speaker 2: Democratic Party is it's kind of two parties in one.
Speaker 2: Because when I grew up in the Godo state of Maine,
Speaker 2: you're a Democrat if you were a laborer and you
Speaker 2: had strong family values and you know, you fought in
Speaker 2: the war, it had a strong military, and you weren't
Speaker 2: the rich guy you know who owned the mill. You
Speaker 2: were the laborer in the mill. Now you have people
Speaker 2: who are moderates and they want to be fisically conservative
Speaker 2: and they want to be fairly liberal socially. And then
Speaker 2: the far left is just completely different. So you're right,
Speaker 2: it's almost like we have three parties. It too happened
Speaker 2: to be under the Democratic label.
Speaker 3: I'm a moderate, so I hate everybody carry that's a
Speaker 3: good way to go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's awful. You've got these two tribes on far
Speaker 4: sides and and and people with common sense are just lost.
Speaker 4: And the Democrats have lost the unions and the working then, right,
Speaker 4: that was their bread, but it was And now they're
Speaker 4: looking at Trump as some kind of hero.
Speaker 2: He doesn't care about them. He does not care about no.
Speaker 3: By the way, it neither is common right.
Speaker 4: I mean, she she is very left, very right, and
Speaker 4: and she might turn out to be more moderate because
Speaker 4: of the general right, but this is a woman who,
Speaker 4: you know, after being a prosecutor, right, said she wanted
Speaker 4: to defund the police. I mean, that's a bad way
Speaker 4: to go, right. And I talked to a friend today,
Speaker 4: right who was definitely very strong democrat, has been aggressive
Speaker 4: all of her life, right, and has a kid that
Speaker 4: last year at a high school party, had three guys
Speaker 4: beat him to within an issue of his life with hammers.
Speaker 4: Jesus right in a hospital for two weeks. And these
Speaker 4: kids were not prosecuted because they were minors. They didn't
Speaker 4: there's no there's no juvenile hall anymore, right, so there's
Speaker 4: no place for them to go. So these kids got
Speaker 4: away scott free. And I mean, yes, crime is down.
Speaker 4: People want to out that crime is down, but it's
Speaker 4: not down to before COVID, right, it's down since Biden's
Speaker 4: first year in office, but it's up for you know,
Speaker 4: from you know, six years ago way out.
Speaker 2: So were these were these kids even tried.
Speaker 3: Yep, Oh my god, nope, nope.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I don't, I I just I can't. I
Speaker 2: can't comprehend that was there any chance for civil litigation.
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 4: They they didn't have the means to I understand, canned
Speaker 4: over any.
Speaker 3: Kind of money to this kid.
Speaker 4: I mean, thank god, these are friends and they're of means,
Speaker 4: and so they're able to you know, again, he's you
Speaker 4: know one by now he's great. Uh, you know, this
Speaker 4: is over a year ago. But and this is the
Speaker 4: family that you know as well, And this is a family. Uh, uh,
Speaker 4: San Francisco. But they're part of our you know, part
Speaker 4: of our friend group. And yeah, it's I mean, this
Speaker 4: is the problem with uh, some of the far left
Speaker 4: woke stuff.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: And I've I mean, I've had discussions with people who
Speaker 4: who want to replace cops with social workers.
Speaker 3: And I'm sorry it's gonna work. It's so far down
Speaker 3: the line.
Speaker 4: You know, when someone's stabbing you, you don't want to
Speaker 4: ask them what kind of childs that they had?
Speaker 2: Right? No, you well, if they're stabbing you, I think
Speaker 2: you know what kind of child would they have? But
Speaker 2: what what you don't want to say is, oh, do
Speaker 2: you need a hug?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: And the thing with with Kamala is that you know,
Speaker 4: and she's got you know, uh, she's got a big
Speaker 4: problem with the border, right because they made her borders
Speaker 4: are right.
Speaker 2: She never she didn't go there, right, you.
Speaker 4: Know, She's they tried to spin it that she was
Speaker 4: going to be investigating the root causes of migration.
Speaker 3: What I mean I have.
Speaker 4: I have two words for her, poor and desperate.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, you don't need to investigate it any further.
Speaker 3: What do you need to know?
Speaker 4: And and there is a big difference between legal immigration
Speaker 4: and illegal immigration. And you know, God forbid, I was
Speaker 4: in that situation, you know where I wanted to go
Speaker 4: north and find safety and find a job and you know,
Speaker 4: get my kids. You know, American, Uh I can, I
Speaker 4: can understand it, but you know, we just we can't
Speaker 4: afford it, and we're having a hell of a time
Speaker 4: stopping it. And uh that's that's uh definitely going to
Speaker 4: be an area that and you know was Jumps was
Speaker 4: the big talk with the wall and and she's gonna
Speaker 4: have an issue with.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no no. Trump wanted Mexico to pay
Speaker 2: for it. Yeah, right, you forgot about it. See to me, look,
Speaker 2: I understand the immigration is a mess, but I think
Speaker 2: it's always been a mess. Yeah, and it's it's it
Speaker 2: got worse. There's no doubt she didn't do anything about it.
Speaker 2: But but with Trump, I you know, you also have
Speaker 2: families and fathers and daughters and you know, parents and
Speaker 2: kids being separated, and it's never been great to me.
Speaker 2: I mean it's always been a problem.
Speaker 3: Gary.
Speaker 4: That was under Obama too, they were separating kids.
Speaker 2: Well and I don't as fine, thank you for correcting me. Fine,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't like it. There's gotta be a
Speaker 2: there's gotta be a more humane way than this. I
Speaker 2: don't understand it. Well, I really don't get it, Sam,
Speaker 2: and I want to hang on you gotta hang on it.
Speaker 2: I have to take a break. I want to get
Speaker 2: into this in a minute. Okay, Garia, Sam will solve
Speaker 2: the border next to WBZ.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Garyan for Dan tonight. Sam Methlicks joining us political competation.
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 4: Do you really have a window to the world over there?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I have a window to Medford, which
Speaker 2: is fine. I actually I have a window to window
Speaker 2: to Medford, and then I can look over to the
Speaker 2: left and I can see Boston, I can see the
Speaker 2: brew and I could see if I open up the shades,
Speaker 2: you know, but too lazy to do that. Sam Miller's
Speaker 2: joining us here, comedian, producer, writer and just political guru
Speaker 2: in my eyes. All right, let's talk about let's talk
Speaker 2: about the border, because maybe I just oversimplify this. I
Speaker 2: don't understand what is so hard about it? Now. It's
Speaker 2: not cheap, Believe me, I understand that. And I understand
Speaker 2: we're talking about a lot of land, but I just
Speaker 2: get the feeling that nobody really wants to deal with it.
Speaker 2: Nobody really wants to take it on because I I
Speaker 2: is it that insurmountable? Am I making it very uncomplicated?
Speaker 4: Yes, you are, Gary, because Congress doesn't want to do
Speaker 4: anything period. And I had this discussion the other night
Speaker 4: with somebody, and sorry, I'm moving to abortion for a second.
Speaker 4: Obama had a supermaturity. There was a time where Clinton
Speaker 4: had a maturity, and they could have made abortion the
Speaker 4: law of the land, right and not leaving it to
Speaker 4: roversus Wade, which was not the best decision.
Speaker 3: Gary.
Speaker 4: It was really those Supreme Court justices were making law right,
Speaker 4: which is not what they're supposed to do. They're supposed
Speaker 4: to read law and interpret law. And so we're where
Speaker 4: we are now with abortion because both parties don't want
Speaker 4: to pass anything because it gives them stuff to run on.
Speaker 3: Right, so that they had.
Speaker 4: A border, they had a compromise border agreement, right, Yes,
Speaker 4: Donald Trump told the Republicans, don't you dare pass this?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: They didn't want to give Joe Biden a win, so
Speaker 4: they didn't pass it. Right, And the same thing with abortion.
Speaker 4: I mean Democrats have been running on abortion since Roe v.
Speaker 4: Wade has been passed, right, and they haven't done anything
Speaker 4: in law to codify it.
Speaker 3: It's both sides everything, you know.
Speaker 4: This is why there needs to be term limits and
Speaker 4: compress right, because no one wants to pass anything because
Speaker 4: you know, God forbid they lose a vote.
Speaker 2: Well, the election cycle is it's just it's infinite, Yes,
Speaker 2: it is, It's infinite. That's the problem.
Speaker 4: You know, three terms terms in Congress done. I mean
Speaker 4: you had Diane Feinstein, who is well worth, you know,
Speaker 4: worse off than Biden was right, she shouldn't have been there. Well,
Speaker 4: I mean, god remember a strong sermon.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yes, yes, I do, Yes, I mean
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure he was alive his last term.
Speaker 2: Well, the problem is is in order for that to pass,
Speaker 2: you have to have the people pass it who have
Speaker 2: the cushy jobs.
Speaker 4: You know, you need term limits so someone can say,
Speaker 4: you know what I went in and the and the
Speaker 4: small time I went in. I didn't care about my
Speaker 4: re election because I knew I always going to be
Speaker 4: here for a finite amount of time, So I wanted
Speaker 4: to pass a law.
Speaker 2: It's never going to happen. I hear you, and you're right,
Speaker 2: but it's never going to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: If if the Congress scared about the country, they fast
Speaker 4: term limits, you know, they'd also pass the laws that
Speaker 4: makes the investment their investments. I mean, oh my lord,
Speaker 4: there's insider trading going on.
Speaker 3: All over the place. Do you wonder how these congress
Speaker 3: people get rich?
Speaker 2: Oh I don't wonder. No, we don't wonder. That was
Speaker 2: the royal you yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, we don't. Look.
Speaker 2: Would you take a look? I've always would Would you
Speaker 2: take a look at what a senator or a congressperson makes?
Speaker 2: And then I go, huh, really, I go, they wouldn't
Speaker 2: be sticking around if that's all they would pull be
Speaker 2: pulling in. I'll tell you that right now.
Speaker 4: That Hey, go ahead, go ahead, you know.
Speaker 3: You go.
Speaker 2: So, if you were Trump, would you debate her?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Okay, what's your strategy?
Speaker 4: I know what Trump's strategy is?
Speaker 2: That's what I mean? What's Trump? What is Trump's strategy?
Speaker 4: Poke a hole in all of the Well, first of all,
Speaker 4: let's let's let's just uh state the obvious and stay
Speaker 4: away from race.
Speaker 2: And he's not doing a very good, Sam, he's not
Speaker 2: doing a very good job at that.
Speaker 4: Talk about disgusting, I mean, I mean not that they
Speaker 4: were very welcoming, right because the first question, I mean,
Speaker 4: they're looking to beat the hell out of them, right,
Speaker 4: which wasn't very fair. Certainly wasn't treating him like a
Speaker 4: former president. But the other thing for him to talk
Speaker 4: about her blackness.
Speaker 2: And what you're talking about the interview with Rachel Scott.
Speaker 3: It's disgusting.
Speaker 4: He wasn't really no I'm talking about I'm talking about well, yes, yes,
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the Convention of the Journalists of Color
Speaker 4: Black where where he yes, she's not black. I mean,
Speaker 4: pretty disgusting.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt. But this is this You and I
Speaker 2: both agree. You and I both said this. If Trump loses,
Speaker 2: it's because it's going to be because of stuff like this.
Speaker 3: Oh sure.
Speaker 4: I mean that was worse, way worse than Joe Biden
Speaker 4: telling people telling black people, if you don't vote for me,
Speaker 4: you ain't black, right, which was pretty trick and terrible.
Speaker 4: I mean, the media didn't really give him the hard
Speaker 4: time he should have had to say, right, But it's
Speaker 4: far more personal and far more disgusting, and it's like
Speaker 4: he can't help himself.
Speaker 3: He has to go to the lowest blow.
Speaker 4: He can deliver, and she'll come out smelling like a
Speaker 4: rose that you know, there's that that old saying, never
Speaker 4: wrestle with a pig, because all you do is get money,
Speaker 4: and the pig loves it, right, And that's that's what
Speaker 4: it is like debating with Trump. But she is not
Speaker 4: the best debater, and she's not the great at extemporaneous stuff.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean there are interview groups of her
Speaker 4: laughing for questions or her repeating the same bad lines
Speaker 4: over and over again. So if if I'm him, absolutely
Speaker 4: I want to debate her, and I just go out
Speaker 4: to the records.
Speaker 3: Go after the record. But she's got suspect stuff in there.
Speaker 2: But she doesn't really that's fine, But she doesn't really
Speaker 2: have a record, does she.
Speaker 3: Oh, sure to fund the police. That's a record.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a record. Yeah, no, we talked about that.
Speaker 3: I was, yeah, yeah, order order, that's a record.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go after that.
Speaker 4: You know, I mean, she was the prosecutor and then
Speaker 4: you know, prosecute a tough prosecutor, right, which, by the way,
Speaker 4: is something she should lean on. Being a law and
Speaker 4: order you know, president.
Speaker 2: That's why they defund the police. Is such a contradiction
Speaker 2: of terms, Like, I don't get it. I never understood that.
Speaker 2: How do you be a tough prosecutor? Then follow that.
Speaker 4: Line, yeah, well, because it's you're a politician, and do
Speaker 4: you think that your tribe needs to hear certain say
Speaker 4: from you?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So okay, so if you're Trump, you go after her,
Speaker 2: if you're now here's here's one of the things I
Speaker 2: wonder about because the dumbing down of America. Hillary Clinton
Speaker 2: was obviously a very intelligent person, that's indisputable. Terrible politician,
Speaker 2: terrible candidate. Kamala is more likable than Hillary her like, yeah,
Speaker 2: just as a person. You mentioned the smiling and the
Speaker 2: laughing and the whole brat thing that we talked about.
Speaker 2: Could that carry her through the debate? Because look, if
Speaker 2: Trump would go after Hillary, I don't know if people
Speaker 2: had a lot of compassion for Hillary if he goes
Speaker 2: after him, if they go right, if they go after Kamala,
Speaker 2: are people going to feel bad for Kamala? And is
Speaker 2: he going to look like the bully? In other words,
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say, in a long winded way,
Speaker 2: is her personality and smile enough to get her through
Speaker 2: a debate.
Speaker 4: No, no, not without me, not without you know. This
Speaker 4: is and this is the thing is she hasn't really
Speaker 4: told the country what she's for. She's told the country
Speaker 4: who she's against, right, And.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the way to go because no, no, because
Speaker 2: let me tell you something, Sam for you the person
Speaker 2: who follows it. But people vote for emotion. I mean,
Speaker 2: look Trump, the Trump faction. Look, he's not really there
Speaker 2: to fuck you. Trump could say anything, and if you
Speaker 2: are a Trump person, you're not changing your mind period.
Speaker 2: It's just just not happening. And I wonder, what's that?
Speaker 2: I yes, right, but if you're if you're anti Trump,
Speaker 2: maybe her way to go is to just keep pointing
Speaker 2: at all the all the problems with Trump, so it
Speaker 2: takes the the attention off of her.
Speaker 3: Gary. That just preaches to the convergence.
Speaker 4: When you're dealing with independence, when you're dealing with swing states,
Speaker 4: and she's doing well with swing states now.
Speaker 3: But she hasn't done anything right.
Speaker 4: She's just not She's not Joe. She is is filled
Speaker 4: with energy and that has started to energize people. But
Speaker 4: if you're looking at independence, you you've got to say
Speaker 4: something more than Trump is weird, right, I mean that's
Speaker 4: the new thing is Trump is weird. But frankly com
Speaker 4: is weird, Right, She's not. I mean, like, I don't
Speaker 4: see her as of Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan type
Speaker 4: or even w who are folks that you could sit
Speaker 4: down and have a beer with or play golf with. Right,
Speaker 4: She's she's got that. There's a certain amount of staid
Speaker 4: awkwardness that she has that Trump doesn't have. By the way,
Speaker 4: but no, Sammy, I met Trump.
Speaker 2: I met him on the sideline at a Patriot game.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: You know, he was not running for president then, and
Speaker 2: we interviewed him. We had we interviewed the Gresha and
Speaker 2: I interviewed the guy he was. He was a TV
Speaker 2: reality show guy. And we were like, hey, he's Trump. Bye,
Speaker 2: he's great. Look at the Donald. He's got the wife,
Speaker 2: He's going to get the helicopter. He lands the helicopter
Speaker 2: in the back, he comes in. You know, he's got
Speaker 2: the whole thing down. I mean, I wasn't afraid of
Speaker 2: him then the way I'm at afraid of him now.
Speaker 2: But he certainly can be more personable to somebody, no doubt.
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean he is not all there.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, but but he's okay with that.
Speaker 4: But he is more natural, yes, yes, and the way
Speaker 4: he talks than she is, that is correct.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I actually want to bring up something JD Vance said.
Speaker 2: Okay, I need you because he's Sammy, He's next time
Speaker 2: I listen, we want to get to that. Next I
Speaker 2: have to take a break. Sam Metler's with us talking
Speaker 2: politics with my boy from the Left Coast. Uh, finishing
Speaker 2: up right here on WBZ right after this, you're on
Speaker 2: Night Side with Ray. I'm WZ Boston's news Radio. Welcome
Speaker 2: back Nightside, Gary Tangway for Dan tonight talking with Sam
Speaker 2: Mettler from the Left Coast, writer, producer, stand up comedian,
Speaker 2: friend of Gary and political So let's get to the vps.
Speaker 2: You were starting to talk about jd Yes, mister, he
Speaker 2: doesn't like women without kids. What else you got?
Speaker 4: Well, okay, this is and and I'm going right there
Speaker 4: because Gary, the last US president without children was James Madison? Right,
Speaker 4: number four?
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 3: What number four?
Speaker 2: Number four? I give you credit, Sam, I did not
Speaker 2: remember that. I just I just you made me think
Speaker 2: of Dolly Madison. But anyways, go ahead, yea I.
Speaker 3: Looked it up.
Speaker 4: Gary, you think I knew that off the top of
Speaker 4: my head. So yeah, that's.
Speaker 3: A long time it is.
Speaker 2: And yes, I.
Speaker 3: Got to tell you listen, JD.
Speaker 4: Doesn't that I put it the right way? Trump doesn't
Speaker 4: matter put anything the right way. Republicans can sound so
Speaker 4: freaking mean, can't they? They really can. And sometimes they
Speaker 4: say something that, if just put another way, wouldn't sound
Speaker 4: so awful or terrible or.
Speaker 5: Demeaning or what have you.
Speaker 4: But Gary, I think there's a big difference between a
Speaker 4: woman who's had children and a woman who hasn't had children.
Speaker 4: And that may be an awful thing to say, but
Speaker 4: most people in this country identify with someone that knows
Speaker 4: what it's like to bring up kids. And I do think,
Speaker 4: I do think that's problematic because I don't know. You know,
Speaker 4: when you've got the most important person, the CEO of
Speaker 4: the country, who's going to tell you what his or
Speaker 4: her plan is for the children of this country, and
Speaker 4: speaks without authority, what's so or experience, I think that's
Speaker 4: a demerit. I think it's a few demerits.
Speaker 2: Can't she talk about the fact that she's been a stepmother.
Speaker 4: When we're the married, I did not bring up the kids.
Speaker 4: She didn't bring up the kids.
Speaker 2: Care right, But can she say that she is an
Speaker 2: a face, she has a family with kids. Can she
Speaker 2: use that at all? No?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think that passes the smell test.
Speaker 2: I mean, but do you think were there, like it's
Speaker 2: your points? Will take it, Sam, But my god, even
Speaker 2: with Clinton, you know, there there are so many things
Speaker 2: now that we let go with our candidates where yeah,
Speaker 2: was Clinton kind of a pig? Yes he was? But
Speaker 2: the economy good? You know? Does she understand what it's
Speaker 2: like to be a mother? Is she a smart as Hillary?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: But she's not Trump? You know, I mean, are those
Speaker 2: things do? Are people willing to let those things go?
Speaker 4: She is not Trump? Is not a great slogan.
Speaker 2: You don't think so, don't you know?
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm not him is not You have to
Speaker 4: sell yourself, you really do. And I mean it's not
Speaker 4: that it's it's not that I'm not Trump. Doesn't work
Speaker 4: with folks that already hate Trump, right. I mean, when
Speaker 4: I hear I'm not Trump, I say, oh good, right,
Speaker 4: But that also doesn't help me when I want to
Speaker 4: know who she is and what she stands for what
Speaker 4: are Garret?
Speaker 3: Can you name a policy?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, No, that's the problem. No, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2: She does not. She does not have any playing she
Speaker 2: does not a platform right now. Maybe she's going to
Speaker 2: announce it at the convention. Okay, maybe, I don't know,
Speaker 2: all right, just saying you get look, you gotta do
Speaker 2: something during that three or four day party.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's it's there's.
Speaker 3: A lot of shell game happening.
Speaker 4: And like when when people are talking about Biden's age,
Speaker 4: they kept talking about what he's done, right, they weren't
Speaker 4: talking about the now right, and she keeps talking about
Speaker 4: what we have done right? And yeah, they had a
Speaker 4: big spending bill on infrastructure. But I mean they talked
Speaker 4: about forgiving student loans. Now I'm not I'm not for that.
Speaker 4: I think people that have scrimped and saved and and
Speaker 4: paid off their college debts, you know now see people
Speaker 4: who just get them erased. I don't think that's fair.
Speaker 4: What's whoever?
Speaker 2: But Sam, did you know? I I agree with you too,
Speaker 2: But wasn't that not the whole loan? Wasn't that just
Speaker 2: the interest or was it the whole I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: Oh, no, they I mean no, Biden absolutely said that
Speaker 4: they were going to forgive student loans.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: No, it's terrible. I mean she talked.
Speaker 4: I mean she really has no she doesn't have a
Speaker 4: high ground on the border. We haven't even talked about
Speaker 4: who she's going to pick for VP.
Speaker 2: Ye. Well that's my next question. So what I wanted
Speaker 2: to say about jd Vance? Will advance? Will advance be
Speaker 2: a factor at all?
Speaker 3: Uh? Maybe?
Speaker 4: And I think it's only negative because I really don't
Speaker 4: think vice president help a ticket.
Speaker 3: They just drag a ticket.
Speaker 2: Right, right, I mean like dan Quayle. You know it
Speaker 2: couldn't spell potato.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, whether it's dan quail, whether it h
Speaker 4: And by the way, the media has a good lot
Speaker 4: to do with that because well, Kamala has been a
Speaker 4: pretty lousy vice president. She was a drag on the ticket,
Speaker 4: right because every time she had an interview, she screwed
Speaker 4: it up. She didn't answer direct questions. Uh so yeah,
Speaker 4: she was. You know, vice presidents can only screw it up,
Speaker 4: they can't make it better.
Speaker 3: Right. I think that's pretty well.
Speaker 2: What about Shapiro, though, I mean, what about your peer
Speaker 2: in the fact that he could carry a big.
Speaker 4: State well, year, you're talking to a member of the
Speaker 4: tribe here.
Speaker 2: Well, I understand that, and I know that that's a factor,
Speaker 2: but you're also talking about nineteen delegates in Pennsylvania that
Speaker 2: he could bring.
Speaker 4: You, Gary, anti Semitism in this country hasn't been worse
Speaker 4: for the last let's say, three decades, right, I mean,
Speaker 4: anti Semitism is always a problem. It wasn't invented with
Speaker 4: the Israel thing. We have, you know, five thousand years
Speaker 4: to go back to. But to have Josh King on
Speaker 4: CNN say out loud, will Josh Shapiro be a drag
Speaker 4: on the ticket simply because he's Jewish is so awful
Speaker 4: and scary and sad, and I mean really terrifying for
Speaker 4: you know us who are Jews and who are married
Speaker 4: to Jews, and I mean, I mean we I gotta
Speaker 4: tell you, Garrett, if we control the world. I've missed
Speaker 4: out on the meetings right, right, I haven't been to
Speaker 4: any of them. But there's a real problem with this,
Speaker 4: you know, Israel uh Palestinian deal where folks are actually
Speaker 4: backing Hamas, you know, a terror organization, right And you know,
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that Israel is carrying out the war perfect.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you do carry out that war,
Speaker 4: by the way.
Speaker 3: But you know she didn't.
Speaker 4: She didn't go to Congress when net Nyahu spoke, that
Speaker 4: was per you know, that was one hundred percent political, sure, right,
Speaker 4: not that I'm a huge fan of net Yahoo and
Speaker 4: he is a you know, really tough right wing guy.
Speaker 4: But you meet with heads of state of democracies, right not. Uh,
Speaker 4: you know, we're not talking about despots. We're talking about democracies,
Speaker 4: and Israel is a democracy. Uh. And I you know,
Speaker 4: I would love her to pick Shapiro, right, but I
Speaker 4: don't know if it'll help her.
Speaker 2: Well, because I'm reading into this. She's supposed to stop,
Speaker 2: she's supposed to stop in Pennsylvania. That's supposed to be
Speaker 2: the first stop. And he's obviously been going after Vancy
Speaker 2: Trump pretty hard. So I don't know ked it leaked.
Speaker 3: It was leaked today?
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you no, wait a minute, do you do
Speaker 2: you think that if she does pick Shapiro, will anti
Speaker 2: Semitism kill her campaign?
Speaker 4: Kill it'll have a drag on It won't too great
Speaker 4: in Michigan.
Speaker 3: I can tell you that.
Speaker 2: Now, why do you say that.
Speaker 4: Michigan has a problem with uh, a very very large
Speaker 4: population that is anti Israel, people that voted in someone
Speaker 4: like Rashida Talib.
Speaker 2: Got it, and so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, uh, let's party. Sources tell Axias that
Speaker 4: all signs point to Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, who is
Speaker 4: fifty one, who's also a child compared to well, not
Speaker 4: compared to jd Vance, but compared to Trump, Trump right,
Speaker 4: and Biden.
Speaker 3: I like Shapiro.
Speaker 4: You know, he's a little too left, but everybody's too
Speaker 4: left or too right for me, right, So yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean it's I think it could hurt her, yes, and
Speaker 4: I hate saying that as a Jewish person. I hate
Speaker 4: saying that, but I think it could hurt her.
Speaker 2: Well, it seems to be the way to go. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's an impressive guy and the people, it seems like
Speaker 2: the people of people are state of Pennsylvania, like the dude.
Speaker 2: So we shall see. Sam. Can you hang around for
Speaker 2: one more second because I want to talk a little
Speaker 2: rock and roll with you?
Speaker 4: Oh jeez, all right, I'll try.
Speaker 2: There you go, kid, Sam Metler, our guest, one of
Speaker 2: the good ones, will wrap up Nights Out on WBZ
Speaker 2: right after this. Now.
Speaker 1: Baptist Dan Ray live from the Window World night Side
Speaker 1: Studios on WBZ News.
Speaker 2: Radio, finishing things out for Dan Rigg Today a night said,
Speaker 2: Gary Tanglo, are Tangoa here with Sam Medler joining us? Sam,
Speaker 2: did you hear about Aerosmith and the fact they will
Speaker 2: not be touring anymore because of the voice of Stephen Tyler.
Speaker 5: Oh no, Tyler, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 5: That's very upsetting.
Speaker 2: Well it is to me too, because look, when you
Speaker 2: talk about Boston, you talk about Jay Giles, you talk
Speaker 2: about the band Boston, you talk about and you talk
Speaker 2: about aerow Smith, and the thing about these guys like
Speaker 2: Arrowsmith and the Stones they go, they've been going forever, forever,
Speaker 2: and like Stephen Tyler was still the old guy that
Speaker 2: looked cool.
Speaker 5: Listen. Specifically, I love Stephen Tyler because he's a lake
Speaker 5: Sunapy guy aside from this huge talent.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, wait a minute, what do you neighbors with
Speaker 2: him up there? What the hell? No?
Speaker 5: I just you know, listen, he spent his summers up
Speaker 5: on a lake Sunapy in New Hampshire. In fact, I
Speaker 5: knew a water ski instructor at eighty years old who
Speaker 5: used to say, yeah, couldn't get up on skis. But
Speaker 5: now every time everyone I see him out, yes, screaming
Speaker 5: something on TV.
Speaker 2: I'm having a hard time imagining Steven Tyler at Lake Sunapee.
Speaker 2: But it's great, it's awesome.
Speaker 5: You know, you've never seen he Actually there was an
Speaker 5: Oprah episode where he took her on a golf cart
Speaker 5: and took her took her on a tour of you know, uh,
Speaker 5: the town.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I missed that. I got check that
Speaker 2: out on YouTube. Oh yeah, what a rock and roll
Speaker 2: presence though, I mean, good god.
Speaker 3: I mean, how many decades?
Speaker 2: Oh, so it's the seventies. I mean, like Toys in
Speaker 2: the Attic right, Even Toys in the Attic was the
Speaker 2: first album I remember for them, and that was like
Speaker 2: their third one. Yeah, well in six decades.
Speaker 5: I remember being a kid, my friend John Jacobs of Newton,
Speaker 5: mass His his dad, Norman Jacobs was their lawyer, and
Speaker 5: in the den were platinum records with with uh caricatures
Speaker 5: of Aerosmith.
Speaker 4: And I was, oh, that's so cool.
Speaker 5: That's say No, that's that's a shame. I love Aerosmith,
Speaker 5: I love Steven Tyler and uh yeah, well I love
Speaker 5: you Garre. I mean I love Dan Moore.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, who doesn't. But that's why I'm the
Speaker 2: CE team. Sammy be good. Thanks for coming on. I
Speaker 2: love your intellect, I love your partiality, I love your insight.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a great weekend, everybody.
Speaker 2: All right, folks, Hey everybody, thanks for letting me hang
Speaker 2: out with you on night side. We'll talk to you
Speaker 2: again soon and take care. Time for news.