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<v Speaker 1>It's nice eyes. I'm Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, al, thank you so much. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Johnson, I couldn't remember. I almost said Brian Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>but I knew that wasn't right. Brian Johnson, Lead Center

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<v Speaker 2>of ac DC. Welcome back Night Side again Friday Night.

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<v Speaker 2>You never know what's going to happen, like you have.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what happens. Is your book a guest? All right,

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<v Speaker 2>and you really are excited about having the guests, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Rob, the guest forgets the get Are you

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<v Speaker 2>in like the coat room of a restaurant? Sam Metler?

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<v Speaker 3>If I had a coat, I'd probably be in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to keep you too long, buddy, what

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant are you at?

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<v Speaker 3>You got me? I'm done? Oh you're done.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're done. You're in the car. You're in the car.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I am dan?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, all right, Well that's cool. How Susie.

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<v Speaker 3>Susie is wonderful. You'll get it.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a radio show. You it's supposed to be

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<v Speaker 4>me one on one.

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<v Speaker 2>No, dude, now I want to talk to Susie. No,

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<v Speaker 2>never mind, I'm kidding. Sam. You have to understand when

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<v Speaker 2>I get behind him, like now, I've been doing this

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<v Speaker 2>too long. Like whatever happens happens. I don't have time

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<v Speaker 2>for rules. I really don't. It doesn't matter. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you had a nice dinner, my friend, I really do.

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<v Speaker 3>We did.

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<v Speaker 4>I almost swore, but I won't because I'm a professional.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a professional. Okay. Look, so I'm looking at the numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>I come I come back from Vegas. Down fifty bucks,

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<v Speaker 2>just down fifty bucks. It's all. I'm looking at the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers of this presidential race, and everything's pretty much dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Even are you surprised it happened as quickly. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not because it's fresh.

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<v Speaker 4>It's well all putting up putt in quotation marks young. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>because of course, you know, if we're grading this on

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<v Speaker 4>a curve, Gamala is practically practically infantile compared to well,

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<v Speaker 4>both her president and the former president. Uh so that's

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<v Speaker 4>a big deal. It's a woman, it's a woman of color.

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<v Speaker 4>And now the Democrats are energized because they've got someone

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<v Speaker 4>to be energized about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and coming up with the bucks, coming up with

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<v Speaker 2>the money.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, I mean that debate.

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<v Speaker 4>And the interviews he had after the debate did not help,

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<v Speaker 4>and it took so many folks intervening, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>the most powerful politicians in this country. We're begging him,

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<v Speaker 4>please please please give us the keys.

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<v Speaker 3>Well you're done.

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<v Speaker 2>President Obama doesn't get more powerful than that. Sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>you know this is crazy, Sam, Sam, I have to energeer.

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<v Speaker 2>This is crazy. It really, this shows where we are.

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<v Speaker 2>It was President Obama and George freaking Clooney.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well they say that Washington is Hollywood for the ugly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's right. Yeah, because look a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of money comes out of Hollywood, including was

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<v Speaker 2>representing that money.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I know a lot of money has now

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<v Speaker 4>started to flow back in, right because the donors said, uhh.

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<v Speaker 3>He's there.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you know, and they shut the first string and

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<v Speaker 4>you know now you know they're opening them up again.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is a honeymoon. I still want to see

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<v Speaker 4>what they do in the convention, and I want to

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<v Speaker 4>see how she does it a debate, because the Democrats

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<v Speaker 4>are great at screwing things up.

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<v Speaker 3>They are.

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<v Speaker 4>They shoot themselves in the foot so often. Not that

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<v Speaker 4>the Republicans, but you know the Republicans, you know, they.

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<v Speaker 3>Stay on script.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Trump is nowhere near a true conservative.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Trump is Trump, He's there for him. He doesn't care

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<v Speaker 4>about policy, he doesn't care really about anyone but Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>So and he is vicious if you cross him. And

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<v Speaker 4>so everyone has gotten in line, sir and saluting. The

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats don't do that. The Democrats fight constantly about who

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<v Speaker 4>they are and who they want and and and perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>They want perfect, right, They won't compromise on a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of legislation because they want perfect and as the Democrats

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<v Speaker 4>big problem, they just can't agree on anything. And you've

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<v Speaker 4>got Wolke factions that you've got moderate factions.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you're a perfect example of that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you consider yourself a moderate, and quite frankly, that's why

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<v Speaker 2>you're back on the show because I enjoy your your

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<v Speaker 2>your viewpoints and your objectivity. But you're right about the

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic Party is it's kind of two parties in one.

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<v Speaker 2>Because when I grew up in the Godo state of Maine,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a Democrat if you were a laborer and you

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<v Speaker 2>had strong family values and you know, you fought in

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<v Speaker 2>the war, it had a strong military, and you weren't

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<v Speaker 2>the rich guy you know who owned the mill. You

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<v Speaker 2>were the laborer in the mill. Now you have people

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<v Speaker 2>who are moderates and they want to be fisically conservative

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<v Speaker 2>and they want to be fairly liberal socially. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the far left is just completely different. So you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost like we have three parties. It too happened

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<v Speaker 2>to be under the Democratic label.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a moderate, so I hate everybody carry that's a

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<v Speaker 3>good way to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's awful. You've got these two tribes on far

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<v Speaker 4>sides and and and people with common sense are just lost.

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<v Speaker 4>And the Democrats have lost the unions and the working then, right,

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<v Speaker 4>that was their bread, but it was And now they're

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<v Speaker 4>looking at Trump as some kind of hero.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't care about them. He does not care about no.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, it neither is common right.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, she she is very left, very right, and

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<v Speaker 4>and she might turn out to be more moderate because

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<v Speaker 4>of the general right, but this is a woman who,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, after being a prosecutor, right, said she wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to defund the police. I mean, that's a bad way

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<v Speaker 4>to go, right. And I talked to a friend today,

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<v Speaker 4>right who was definitely very strong democrat, has been aggressive

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<v Speaker 4>all of her life, right, and has a kid that

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<v Speaker 4>last year at a high school party, had three guys

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<v Speaker 4>beat him to within an issue of his life with hammers.

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<v Speaker 4>Jesus right in a hospital for two weeks. And these

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<v Speaker 4>kids were not prosecuted because they were minors. They didn't

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<v Speaker 4>there's no there's no juvenile hall anymore, right, so there's

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<v Speaker 4>no place for them to go. So these kids got

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<v Speaker 4>away scott free. And I mean, yes, crime is down.

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<v Speaker 4>People want to out that crime is down, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>not down to before COVID, right, it's down since Biden's

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<v Speaker 4>first year in office, but it's up for you know,

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<v Speaker 4>from you know, six years ago way out.

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<v Speaker 2>So were these were these kids even tried.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, Oh my god, nope, nope.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. I don't, I I just I can't. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't comprehend that was there any chance for civil litigation.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now?

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<v Speaker 4>They they didn't have the means to I understand, canned

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<v Speaker 4>over any.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of money to this kid.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, thank god, these are friends and they're of means,

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<v Speaker 4>and so they're able to you know, again, he's you

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<v Speaker 4>know one by now he's great. Uh, you know, this

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<v Speaker 4>is over a year ago. But and this is the

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<v Speaker 4>family that you know as well, And this is a family. Uh, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>San Francisco. But they're part of our you know, part

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<v Speaker 4>of our friend group. And yeah, it's I mean, this

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<v Speaker 4>is the problem with uh, some of the far left

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<v Speaker 4>woke stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've I mean, I've had discussions with people who

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<v Speaker 4>who want to replace cops with social workers.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm sorry it's gonna work. It's so far down

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<v Speaker 3>the line.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, when someone's stabbing you, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>ask them what kind of childs that they had?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? No, you well, if they're stabbing you, I think

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<v Speaker 2>you know what kind of child would they have? But

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<v Speaker 2>what what you don't want to say is, oh, do

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<v Speaker 2>you need a hug?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>And the thing with with Kamala is that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and she's got you know, uh, she's got a big

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<v Speaker 4>problem with the border, right because they made her borders

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<v Speaker 4>are right.

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<v Speaker 2>She never she didn't go there, right, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, She's they tried to spin it that she was

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<v Speaker 4>going to be investigating the root causes of migration.

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<v Speaker 3>What I mean I have.

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<v Speaker 4>I have two words for her, poor and desperate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, you don't need to investigate it any further.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you need to know?

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<v Speaker 4>And and there is a big difference between legal immigration

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<v Speaker 4>and illegal immigration. And you know, God forbid, I was

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<v Speaker 4>in that situation, you know where I wanted to go

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<v Speaker 4>north and find safety and find a job and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>get my kids. You know, American, Uh I can, I

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<v Speaker 4>can understand it, but you know, we just we can't

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<v Speaker 4>afford it, and we're having a hell of a time

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<v Speaker 4>stopping it. And uh that's that's uh definitely going to

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<v Speaker 4>be an area that and you know was Jumps was

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<v Speaker 4>the big talk with the wall and and she's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have an issue with.

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<v Speaker 2>No no, no, no no. Trump wanted Mexico to pay

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<v Speaker 2>for it. Yeah, right, you forgot about it. See to me, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand the immigration is a mess, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's always been a mess. Yeah, and it's it's it

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<v Speaker 2>got worse. There's no doubt she didn't do anything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But but with Trump, I you know, you also have

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<v Speaker 2>families and fathers and daughters and you know, parents and

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<v Speaker 2>kids being separated, and it's never been great to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's always been a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary.

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<v Speaker 4>That was under Obama too, they were separating kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Well and I don't as fine, thank you for correcting me. Fine,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't like it. There's gotta be a

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<v Speaker 2>there's gotta be a more humane way than this. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand it. Well, I really don't get it, Sam,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to hang on you gotta hang on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to take a break. I want to get

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<v Speaker 2>into this in a minute. Okay, Garia, Sam will solve

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<v Speaker 2>the border next to WBZ.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Garyan for Dan tonight. Sam Methlicks joining us political competation.

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<v Speaker 2>What's that?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you really have a window to the world over there?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I have a window to Medford, which

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<v Speaker 2>is fine. I actually I have a window to window

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<v Speaker 2>to Medford, and then I can look over to the

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<v Speaker 2>left and I can see Boston, I can see the

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<v Speaker 2>brew and I could see if I open up the shades,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but too lazy to do that. Sam Miller's

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<v Speaker 2>joining us here, comedian, producer, writer and just political guru

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<v Speaker 2>in my eyes. All right, let's talk about let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the border, because maybe I just oversimplify this. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand what is so hard about it? Now. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody really wants to take it on because I I

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<v Speaker 2>is it that insurmountable? Am I making it very uncomplicated?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you are, Gary, because Congress doesn't want to do

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<v Speaker 4>Obama had a supermaturity. There was a time where Clinton

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<v Speaker 4>law of the land, right and not leaving it to

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<v Speaker 3>Gary.

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<v Speaker 4>It was really those Supreme Court justices were making law right,

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<v Speaker 4>to read law and interpret law. And so we're where

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<v Speaker 4>we are now with abortion because both parties don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to pass anything because it gives them stuff to run on.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, so that they had.

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<v Speaker 4>A border, they had a compromise border agreement, right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump told the Republicans, don't you dare pass this?

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't want to give Joe Biden a win, so

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<v Speaker 4>they didn't pass it. Right, And the same thing with abortion.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Democrats have been running on abortion since Roe v.

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<v Speaker 4>Wade has been passed, right, and they haven't done anything

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<v Speaker 4>in law to codify it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's both sides everything, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>This is why there needs to be term limits and

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<v Speaker 4>compress right, because no one wants to pass anything because

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<v Speaker 4>you know, God forbid they lose a vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the election cycle is it's just it's infinite, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it is, It's infinite. That's the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, three terms terms in Congress done. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>worse off than Biden was right, she shouldn't have been there. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, god remember a strong sermon.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Yes, yes, I do, Yes, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the problem is is in order for that to pass,

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you need term limits so someone can say,

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<v Speaker 2>It's never going to happen. I hear you, and you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's never going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 4>If if the Congress scared about the country, they fast

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<v Speaker 4>term limits, you know, they'd also pass the laws that

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<v Speaker 4>makes the investment their investments. I mean, oh my lord,

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<v Speaker 4>there's insider trading going on.

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<v Speaker 3>All over the place. Do you wonder how these congress

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<v Speaker 3>people get rich?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I don't wonder. No, we don't wonder. That was

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<v Speaker 2>Would you take a look? I've always would Would you

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<v Speaker 2>take a look at what a senator or a congressperson makes?

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<v Speaker 2>pulling in. I'll tell you that right now.

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<v Speaker 4>That Hey, go ahead, go ahead, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>You go.

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<v Speaker 2>So, if you were Trump, would you debate her?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's your strategy?

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<v Speaker 4>I know what Trump's strategy is?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I mean? What's Trump? What is Trump's strategy?

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<v Speaker 4>Poke a hole in all of the Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 4>let's let's let's just uh state the obvious and stay

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<v Speaker 4>away from race.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's not doing a very good, Sam, he's not

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<v Speaker 2>doing a very good job at that.

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<v Speaker 4>Talk about disgusting, I mean, I mean not that they

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<v Speaker 4>were very welcoming, right because the first question, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>they're looking to beat the hell out of them, right,

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<v Speaker 4>which wasn't very fair. Certainly wasn't treating him like a

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<v Speaker 4>former president. But the other thing for him to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about her blackness.

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<v Speaker 2>And what you're talking about the interview with Rachel Scott.

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<v Speaker 3>It's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 4>He wasn't really no I'm talking about I'm talking about well, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>Black where where he yes, she's not black. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>pretty disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no doubt. But this is this You and I

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<v Speaker 2>both agree. You and I both said this. If Trump loses,

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<v Speaker 2>it's because it's going to be because of stuff like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh sure.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that was worse, way worse than Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 4>telling people telling black people, if you don't vote for me,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the media didn't really give him the hard

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<v Speaker 4>time he should have had to say, right, But it's

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<v Speaker 4>far more personal and far more disgusting, and it's like

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<v Speaker 4>he can't help himself.

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<v Speaker 3>He has to go to the lowest blow.

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<v Speaker 4>He can deliver, and she'll come out smelling like a

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<v Speaker 4>rose that you know, there's that that old saying, never

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<v Speaker 4>wrestle with a pig, because all you do is get money,

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<v Speaker 4>and the pig loves it, right, And that's that's what

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<v Speaker 4>it is like debating with Trump. But she is not

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<v Speaker 4>the best debater, and she's not the great at extemporaneous stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I mean there are interview groups of her

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<v Speaker 4>laughing for questions or her repeating the same bad lines

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<v Speaker 4>over and over again. So if if I'm him, absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>I want to debate her, and I just go out

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<v Speaker 4>to the records.

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<v Speaker 3>Go after the record. But she's got suspect stuff in there.

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<v Speaker 2>But she doesn't really that's fine, But she doesn't really

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<v Speaker 2>have a record, does she.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, sure to fund the police. That's a record.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a record. Yeah, no, we talked about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, go after that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I mean, she was the prosecutor and then

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<v Speaker 4>you know, prosecute a tough prosecutor, right, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>is something she should lean on. Being a law and

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<v Speaker 2>That's why they defund the police. Is such a contradiction

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<v Speaker 2>of terms, Like, I don't get it. I never understood that.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you be a tough prosecutor? Then follow that.

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<v Speaker 4>Line, yeah, well, because it's you're a politician, and do

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<v Speaker 4>you think that your tribe needs to hear certain say

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So okay, so if you're Trump, you go after her,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're now here's here's one of the things I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder about because the dumbing down of America. Hillary Clinton

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<v Speaker 2>was obviously a very intelligent person, that's indisputable. Terrible politician,

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<v Speaker 2>terrible candidate. Kamala is more likable than Hillary her like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just as a person. You mentioned the smiling and the

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<v Speaker 2>laughing and the whole brat thing that we talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>Could that carry her through the debate? Because look, if

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<v Speaker 2>Trump would go after Hillary, I don't know if people

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<v Speaker 2>after him, if they go right, if they go after Kamala,

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<v Speaker 2>are people going to feel bad for Kamala? And is

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<v Speaker 2>he going to look like the bully? In other words,

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm trying to say, in a long winded way,

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<v Speaker 2>is her personality and smile enough to get her through

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<v Speaker 2>a debate.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, not without me, not without you know. This

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<v Speaker 4>is and this is the thing is she hasn't really

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<v Speaker 4>told the country what she's for. She's told the country

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<v Speaker 4>who she's against, right, And.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's the way to go because no, no, because

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<v Speaker 2>let me tell you something, Sam for you the person

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<v Speaker 2>who follows it. But people vote for emotion. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>look Trump, the Trump faction. Look, he's not really there

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<v Speaker 2>to fuck you. Trump could say anything, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>are a Trump person, you're not changing your mind period.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just just not happening. And I wonder, what's that?

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<v Speaker 2>I yes, right, but if you're if you're anti Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe her way to go is to just keep pointing

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<v Speaker 2>at all the all the problems with Trump, so it

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<v Speaker 2>takes the the attention off of her.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary. That just preaches to the convergence.

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<v Speaker 4>When you're dealing with independence, when you're dealing with swing states,

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<v Speaker 4>and she's doing well with swing states now.

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<v Speaker 3>But she hasn't done anything right.

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<v Speaker 4>She's just not She's not Joe. She is is filled

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<v Speaker 4>with energy and that has started to energize people. But

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<v Speaker 4>if you're looking at independence, you you've got to say

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<v Speaker 4>something more than Trump is weird, right, I mean that's

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<v Speaker 4>the new thing is Trump is weird. But frankly com

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<v Speaker 4>is weird, Right, She's not. I mean, like, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>see her as of Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan type

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<v Speaker 4>down and have a beer with or play golf with. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>She's she's got that. There's a certain amount of staid

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<v Speaker 4>awkwardness that she has that Trump doesn't have. By the way,

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<v Speaker 4>but no, Sammy, I met Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>I met him on the sideline at a Patriot game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he was not running for president then, and

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<v Speaker 2>we interviewed him. We had we interviewed the Gresha and

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<v Speaker 2>I interviewed the guy he was. He was a TV

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<v Speaker 2>reality show guy. And we were like, hey, he's Trump. Bye,

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<v Speaker 2>he's great. Look at the Donald. He's got the wife,

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to get the helicopter. He lands the helicopter

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<v Speaker 2>in the back, he comes in. You know, he's got

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing down. I mean, I wasn't afraid of

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<v Speaker 2>But he certainly can be more personable to somebody, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I mean he is not all there.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, but but he's okay with that.

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<v Speaker 4>But he is more natural, yes, yes, and the way

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<v Speaker 4>he talks than she is, that is correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And I actually want to bring up something JD Vance said.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I need you because he's Sammy, He's next time

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<v Speaker 2>I listen, we want to get to that. Next I

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<v Speaker 2>politics with my boy from the Left Coast. Uh, finishing

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<v Speaker 2>up right here on WBZ right after this, you're on

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<v Speaker 2>Night Side with Ray. I'm WZ Boston's news Radio. Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back Nightside, Gary Tangway for Dan tonight talking with Sam

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<v Speaker 2>friend of Gary and political So let's get to the vps.

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<v Speaker 2>You were starting to talk about jd Yes, mister, he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't like women without kids. What else you got?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, this is and and I'm going right there

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<v Speaker 4>because Gary, the last US president without children was James Madison? Right,

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<v Speaker 4>number four?

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<v Speaker 2>What's that?

427
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<v Speaker 3>What number four?

428
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<v Speaker 2>Number four? I give you credit, Sam, I did not

429
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<v Speaker 2>remember that. I just I just you made me think

430
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<v Speaker 2>of Dolly Madison. But anyways, go ahead, yea I.

431
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<v Speaker 3>Looked it up.

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<v Speaker 4>Gary, you think I knew that off the top of

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<v Speaker 4>my head. So yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>A long time it is.

435
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<v Speaker 2>And yes, I.

436
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<v Speaker 3>Got to tell you listen, JD.

437
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:58.960
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't that I put it the right way? Trump doesn't

438
00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:04.000
<v Speaker 4>matter put anything the right way. Republicans can sound so

439
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:13.039
<v Speaker 4>freaking mean, can't they? They really can. And sometimes they

440
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:18.400
<v Speaker 4>say something that, if just put another way, wouldn't sound

441
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<v Speaker 4>so awful or terrible or.

442
00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:22.119
<v Speaker 5>Demeaning or what have you.

443
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<v Speaker 4>But Gary, I think there's a big difference between a

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<v Speaker 4>woman who's had children and a woman who hasn't had children.

445
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<v Speaker 4>And that may be an awful thing to say, but

446
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:40.839
<v Speaker 4>most people in this country identify with someone that knows

447
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<v Speaker 4>what it's like to bring up kids. And I do think,

448
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:50.200
<v Speaker 4>I do think that's problematic because I don't know. You know,

449
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<v Speaker 4>when you've got the most important person, the CEO of

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<v Speaker 4>the country, who's going to tell you what his or

451
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<v Speaker 4>her plan is for the children of this country, and

452
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:14.359
<v Speaker 4>speaks without authority, what's so or experience, I think that's

453
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<v Speaker 4>a demerit. I think it's a few demerits.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't she talk about the fact that she's been a stepmother.

455
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<v Speaker 4>When we're the married, I did not bring up the kids.

456
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<v Speaker 4>She didn't bring up the kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Care right, But can she say that she is an

458
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<v Speaker 2>a face, she has a family with kids. Can she

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<v Speaker 2>use that at all? No?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

461
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.079
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't think that passes the smell test.

462
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, but do you think were there, like it's

463
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<v Speaker 2>your points? Will take it, Sam, But my god, even

464
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<v Speaker 2>with Clinton, you know, there there are so many things

465
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<v Speaker 2>now that we let go with our candidates where yeah,

466
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<v Speaker 2>was Clinton kind of a pig? Yes he was? But

467
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:02.880
<v Speaker 2>the economy good? You know? Does she understand what it's

468
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<v Speaker 2>like to be a mother? Is she a smart as Hillary?

469
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<v Speaker 1>No?

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00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:08.200
<v Speaker 2>But she's not Trump? You know, I mean, are those

471
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<v Speaker 2>things do? Are people willing to let those things go?

472
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:18.880
<v Speaker 4>She is not Trump? Is not a great slogan.

473
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<v Speaker 2>You don't think so, don't you know?

474
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<v Speaker 4>No, No, I'm not him is not You have to

475
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<v Speaker 4>sell yourself, you really do. And I mean it's not

476
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<v Speaker 4>that it's it's not that I'm not Trump. Doesn't work

477
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<v Speaker 4>with folks that already hate Trump, right. I mean, when

478
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:44.359
<v Speaker 4>I hear I'm not Trump, I say, oh good, right,

479
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<v Speaker 4>But that also doesn't help me when I want to

480
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<v Speaker 4>know who she is and what she stands for what

481
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<v Speaker 4>are Garret?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you name a policy?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

484
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<v Speaker 2>No, No, that's the problem. No, you're right, you're right.

485
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<v Speaker 2>She does not. She does not have any playing she

486
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<v Speaker 2>does not a platform right now. Maybe she's going to

487
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<v Speaker 2>announce it at the convention. Okay, maybe, I don't know,

488
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<v Speaker 2>all right, just saying you get look, you gotta do

489
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<v Speaker 2>something during that three or four day party.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it's it's there's.

491
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<v Speaker 3>A lot of shell game happening.

492
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<v Speaker 4>And like when when people are talking about Biden's age,

493
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<v Speaker 4>they kept talking about what he's done, right, they weren't

494
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<v Speaker 4>talking about the now right, and she keeps talking about

495
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:36.720
<v Speaker 4>what we have done right? And yeah, they had a

496
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<v Speaker 4>big spending bill on infrastructure. But I mean they talked

497
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<v Speaker 4>about forgiving student loans. Now I'm not I'm not for that.

498
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<v Speaker 4>I think people that have scrimped and saved and and

499
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:56.680
<v Speaker 4>paid off their college debts, you know now see people

500
00:31:56.759 --> 00:31:59.680
<v Speaker 4>who just get them erased. I don't think that's fair.

501
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:00.359
<v Speaker 4>What's whoever?

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00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.680
<v Speaker 2>But Sam, did you know? I I agree with you too,

503
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<v Speaker 2>But wasn't that not the whole loan? Wasn't that just

504
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:08.759
<v Speaker 2>the interest or was it the whole I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, no, they I mean no, Biden absolutely said that

506
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<v Speaker 4>they were going to forgive student loans.

507
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Right.

508
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<v Speaker 3>No, it's terrible. I mean she talked.

509
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:29.319
<v Speaker 4>I mean she really has no she doesn't have a

510
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<v Speaker 4>high ground on the border. We haven't even talked about

511
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<v Speaker 4>who she's going to pick for VP.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye. Well that's my next question. So what I wanted

513
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<v Speaker 2>to say about jd Vance? Will advance? Will advance be

514
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<v Speaker 2>a factor at all?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 4>And I think it's only negative because I really don't

517
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:51.079
<v Speaker 4>think vice president help a ticket.

518
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:52.960
<v Speaker 3>They just drag a ticket.

519
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, right, I mean like dan Quayle. You know it

520
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:55.920
<v Speaker 2>couldn't spell potato.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, whether it's dan quail, whether it h

522
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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, the media has a good lot

523
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<v Speaker 4>to do with that because well, Kamala has been a

524
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:11.559
<v Speaker 4>pretty lousy vice president. She was a drag on the ticket,

525
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:16.559
<v Speaker 4>right because every time she had an interview, she screwed

526
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<v Speaker 4>it up. She didn't answer direct questions. Uh so yeah,

527
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:27.599
<v Speaker 4>she was. You know, vice presidents can only screw it up,

528
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:28.519
<v Speaker 4>they can't make it better.

529
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<v Speaker 3>Right. I think that's pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>What about Shapiro, though, I mean, what about your peer

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<v Speaker 2>in the fact that he could carry a big.

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<v Speaker 4>State well, year, you're talking to a member of the

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<v Speaker 4>tribe here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I understand that, and I know that that's a factor,

535
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<v Speaker 2>but you're also talking about nineteen delegates in Pennsylvania that

536
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<v Speaker 2>he could bring.

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<v Speaker 4>You, Gary, anti Semitism in this country hasn't been worse

538
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:59.880
<v Speaker 4>for the last let's say, three decades, right, I mean,

539
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:05.440
<v Speaker 4>anti Semitism is always a problem. It wasn't invented with

540
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:09.440
<v Speaker 4>the Israel thing. We have, you know, five thousand years

541
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:16.599
<v Speaker 4>to go back to. But to have Josh King on

542
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:23.320
<v Speaker 4>CNN say out loud, will Josh Shapiro be a drag

543
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:30.840
<v Speaker 4>on the ticket simply because he's Jewish is so awful

544
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:36.519
<v Speaker 4>and scary and sad, and I mean really terrifying for

545
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:42.320
<v Speaker 4>you know us who are Jews and who are married

546
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:45.960
<v Speaker 4>to Jews, and I mean, I mean we I gotta

547
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:49.119
<v Speaker 4>tell you, Garrett, if we control the world. I've missed

548
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:53.239
<v Speaker 4>out on the meetings right, right, I haven't been to

549
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:57.320
<v Speaker 4>any of them. But there's a real problem with this,

550
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:04.239
<v Speaker 4>you know, Israel uh Palestinian deal where folks are actually

551
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:10.039
<v Speaker 4>backing Hamas, you know, a terror organization, right And you know,

552
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:12.679
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying that Israel is carrying out the war perfect.

553
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 4>I don't know how you do carry out that war,

554
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:15.280
<v Speaker 4>by the way.

555
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:19.440
<v Speaker 3>But you know she didn't.

556
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:23.559
<v Speaker 4>She didn't go to Congress when net Nyahu spoke, that

557
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:27.079
<v Speaker 4>was per you know, that was one hundred percent political, sure, right,

558
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:30.519
<v Speaker 4>not that I'm a huge fan of net Yahoo and

559
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 4>he is a you know, really tough right wing guy.

560
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:45.199
<v Speaker 4>But you meet with heads of state of democracies, right not. Uh,

561
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.360
<v Speaker 4>you know, we're not talking about despots. We're talking about democracies,

562
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:55.400
<v Speaker 4>and Israel is a democracy. Uh. And I you know,

563
00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:59.000
<v Speaker 4>I would love her to pick Shapiro, right, but I

564
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:01.360
<v Speaker 4>don't know if it'll help her.

565
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, because I'm reading into this. She's supposed to stop,

566
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<v Speaker 2>she's supposed to stop in Pennsylvania. That's supposed to be

567
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:09.559
<v Speaker 2>the first stop. And he's obviously been going after Vancy

568
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Trump pretty hard. So I don't know ked it leaked.

569
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<v Speaker 3>It was leaked today?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you no, wait a minute, do you do

571
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<v Speaker 2>you think that if she does pick Shapiro, will anti

572
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Semitism kill her campaign?

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00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:30.679
<v Speaker 4>Kill it'll have a drag on It won't too great

574
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<v Speaker 4>in Michigan.

575
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:31.719
<v Speaker 3>I can tell you that.

576
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Now, why do you say that.

577
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:40.280
<v Speaker 4>Michigan has a problem with uh, a very very large

578
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:48.800
<v Speaker 4>population that is anti Israel, people that voted in someone

579
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:50.320
<v Speaker 4>like Rashida Talib.

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00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Got it, and so.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, uh, let's party. Sources tell Axias that

582
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:07.480
<v Speaker 4>all signs point to Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, who is

583
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<v Speaker 4>fifty one, who's also a child compared to well, not

584
00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:15.599
<v Speaker 4>compared to jd Vance, but compared to Trump, Trump right,

585
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 4>and Biden.

586
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:19.920
<v Speaker 3>I like Shapiro.

587
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:26.679
<v Speaker 4>You know, he's a little too left, but everybody's too

588
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:34.119
<v Speaker 4>left or too right for me, right, So yeah, I

589
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:40.000
<v Speaker 4>mean it's I think it could hurt her, yes, and

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00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:42.719
<v Speaker 4>I hate saying that as a Jewish person. I hate

591
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:44.199
<v Speaker 4>saying that, but I think it could hurt her.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it seems to be the way to go. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's an impressive guy and the people, it seems like

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<v Speaker 2>the people of people are state of Pennsylvania, like the dude.

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<v Speaker 2>So we shall see. Sam. Can you hang around for

596
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:56.360
<v Speaker 2>one more second because I want to talk a little

597
00:37:56.440 --> 00:37:57.320
<v Speaker 2>rock and roll with you?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh jeez, all right, I'll try.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, kid, Sam Metler, our guest, one of

600
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<v Speaker 2>the good ones, will wrap up Nights Out on WBZ

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<v Speaker 2>right after this. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Baptist Dan Ray live from the Window World night Side

603
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<v Speaker 1>Studios on WBZ News.

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<v Speaker 2>Radio, finishing things out for Dan Rigg Today a night said,

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<v Speaker 2>Gary Tanglo, are Tangoa here with Sam Medler joining us? Sam,

606
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<v Speaker 2>did you hear about Aerosmith and the fact they will

607
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<v Speaker 2>not be touring anymore because of the voice of Stephen Tyler.

608
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<v Speaker 5>Oh no, Tyler, I'm not.

609
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<v Speaker 3>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 5>That's very upsetting.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it is to me too, because look, when you

612
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<v Speaker 2>talk about Boston, you talk about Jay Giles, you talk

613
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<v Speaker 2>about the band Boston, you talk about and you talk

614
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<v Speaker 2>about aerow Smith, and the thing about these guys like

615
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Arrowsmith and the Stones they go, they've been going forever, forever,

616
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:59.480
<v Speaker 2>and like Stephen Tyler was still the old guy that

617
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<v Speaker 2>looked cool.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen. Specifically, I love Stephen Tyler because he's a lake

619
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<v Speaker 5>Sunapy guy aside from this huge talent.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay, wait a minute, what do you neighbors with

621
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<v Speaker 2>him up there? What the hell? No?

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<v Speaker 5>I just you know, listen, he spent his summers up

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<v Speaker 5>on a lake Sunapy in New Hampshire. In fact, I

624
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<v Speaker 5>knew a water ski instructor at eighty years old who

625
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<v Speaker 5>used to say, yeah, couldn't get up on skis. But

626
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:38.760
<v Speaker 5>now every time everyone I see him out, yes, screaming

627
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<v Speaker 5>something on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm having a hard time imagining Steven Tyler at Lake Sunapee.

629
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<v Speaker 2>But it's great, it's awesome.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you've never seen he Actually there was an

631
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<v Speaker 5>Oprah episode where he took her on a golf cart

632
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<v Speaker 5>and took her took her on a tour of you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>the town.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I missed that. I got check that

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<v Speaker 2>out on YouTube. Oh yeah, what a rock and roll

636
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<v Speaker 2>presence though, I mean, good god.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, how many decades?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so it's the seventies. I mean, like Toys in

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<v Speaker 2>the Attic right, Even Toys in the Attic was the

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<v Speaker 2>first album I remember for them, and that was like

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<v Speaker 2>their third one. Yeah, well in six decades.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember being a kid, my friend John Jacobs of Newton,

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<v Speaker 5>mass His his dad, Norman Jacobs was their lawyer, and

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<v Speaker 5>in the den were platinum records with with uh caricatures

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<v Speaker 5>of Aerosmith.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was, oh, that's so cool.

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<v Speaker 5>That's say No, that's that's a shame. I love Aerosmith,

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<v Speaker 5>I love Steven Tyler and uh yeah, well I love

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<v Speaker 5>you Garre. I mean I love Dan Moore.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, who doesn't. But that's why I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>CE team. Sammy be good. Thanks for coming on. I

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<v Speaker 2>love your intellect, I love your partiality, I love your insight.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have a great weekend, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, folks, Hey everybody, thanks for letting me hang

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<v Speaker 2>out with you on night side. We'll talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>again soon and take care. Time for news.
