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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, ready to step into the shoes of a

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<v Speaker 1>white hat hacker. Today, we're diving into the world of

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<v Speaker 1>penetration testing. Okay, think of it as a security checkup

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<v Speaker 1>for the digital age.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got this comprehensive course curriculum all about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to extract the most crucial and fascinating insights

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<v Speaker 1>just for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine this, We're planning a heist, not on a bank, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but on a high tech facility brimming with sensitive data.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great analogy. Oh yeah, yeah, because just like

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<v Speaker 2>in a heist movie, penetration testing involves meticulous planning, reconnaissance,

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<v Speaker 2>and skillful execution.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>But instead of stealing valuables, our goal is to expose

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerabilities before the bad guys do.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we're the good guys in this scenario, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the ethical hacker is trying to protect sensitive data. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and this curriculum calls it an authorized form of hacking,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a bit of a mind bender.

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<v Speaker 2>Right it is authorized.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Companies highre penetration testers often called pen testers, to find

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<v Speaker 2>the we this is in their systems before malicious actors do.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like We're hired to break in and then

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<v Speaker 1>give them a report card on their security.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. We have three main objectives. Identify vulnerabilities, understand how

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<v Speaker 2>those vulnerabilities could be exploited, and then give them a

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<v Speaker 2>clear roadmap for fixing those weaknesses.

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<v Speaker 1>And I bet some companies take this very seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>Right absolutely. In fact, for industries like finance, penetration testing

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<v Speaker 2>isn't just a good idea, it's standard practice. Wow, they

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<v Speaker 2>know how tempting their data is to cyber criminals. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so they can't afford to leave any gaps in their defenses.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense. Yeah, so how do we even approach

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<v Speaker 1>a pentist? Who I see this document talks about black box,

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<v Speaker 1>gray box and white box testing. Sounds mysterious.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of them as different levels of intel before our heist. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>black box is going in almost blind, like we only

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<v Speaker 2>know the name of the facility. Grey Box gives us

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<v Speaker 2>a Martiall blueprint, maybe we know some of the security

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<v Speaker 2>systems they use, and white box testing is like having

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<v Speaker 2>the full schematics. We know the layout, the tech, everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So which approach do we usually use for penetration testing?

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<v Speaker 2>For this deep dive, we'll focus on black box and

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<v Speaker 2>gray box. Okay, they're the most common because in real

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<v Speaker 2>world scenarios, you rarely have complete information about a target system.

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<v Speaker 2>Whitebox requires a deep dive into code and architecture, a

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<v Speaker 2>whole other level of expertise.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it, This is already getting me excited. This curriculum

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<v Speaker 1>says we need to think like a hacker. So are

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<v Speaker 1>we about to unleash our inner cybervigilantes?

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on there, Ethical boundaries are paramount. Illegal activities are

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<v Speaker 2>never ever part of a penetration test. Okay. We operate

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<v Speaker 2>strictly within a legal framework, always with permission from the client.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're more like detectives than criminals, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, speaking of history, did you know the term hacker

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<v Speaker 2>didn't start with malicious intent?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, It actually originated from MIT students who would cleverly

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<v Speaker 2>modify systems, not to steal or disrupt, but to innovate

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<v Speaker 2>and push boundaries.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I had no idea. Yeah, so it was more

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<v Speaker 1>about creative problem solving than anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, the term has evolved over time, but at

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<v Speaker 2>its core, hacking is about understanding how systems work and

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<v Speaker 2>finding clever ways to interact with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So now that we've got our ethical hacker hats on,

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<v Speaker 1>let's map out the phases of a penetration test.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>This curriculum outlines a pretty detailed roadmap, kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>our heist plan.

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<v Speaker 2>The first phase is all about framing the intervention, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>It starts with meeting the client, understanding their security concerns,

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<v Speaker 2>and defining the scope of our operation.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like our initial reconnaissance mission. We're gathering intel,

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<v Speaker 1>scoping out the target facility, and figuring out the objectives

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<v Speaker 1>of our heist.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Clear communication is crucial here. We need to know

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<v Speaker 2>what's off limits, what systems are critical, and what the

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<v Speaker 2>client's expectations are. The document actually gives an example where

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<v Speaker 2>a pintester accidentally brought down a small business's entire network

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<v Speaker 2>during a test. Oh wow, because of miscommunication about the scope.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a nightmare scenario.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It really highlights the need for a solid plan, absolutely. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we have a framework document that outlines the

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<v Speaker 2>rules of engagement, kind of like a contract between us

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<v Speaker 2>and the client. It clarifies everything, the targets, the methods

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<v Speaker 2>will use, the timelines, communication protocols. Okay, even how we'll

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<v Speaker 2>deliver our findings.

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<v Speaker 1>So it protects both us and the client, making sure

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's on the same page exactly. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool. Now, once we've got our mission clear, the next

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<v Speaker 2>phase is preparing our work environment.

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<v Speaker 1>Time to gather our tools and set up our hacker layer.

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<v Speaker 2>I like how you think. Yeah. In the digital world,

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<v Speaker 2>this means setting up a dedicated, disposable environment for each test.

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<v Speaker 2>We often use specialized operating systems like CALLI, Linux, Parados,

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<v Speaker 2>or command of VM.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like having a virtual safe house where we

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<v Speaker 1>can experiment and work without affecting our own systems or

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<v Speaker 1>mixing data from different clients exactly. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Each of these operating systems comes with its own set

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<v Speaker 2>of tools and features, kind of like our specialized heist equipment. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>The key is choosing the right one for the job.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where it gets really interesting, right Yeah, Now

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<v Speaker 1>we start digging for information about our target.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where open source intelligence or ocence comes into play.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd be amazed at how much valuable information is publicly available.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're scouring the web for clues like blueprints of

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<v Speaker 1>the facility, security guard schedules, maybe even finding disgruntled employees

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<v Speaker 1>who could provide inside information.

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<v Speaker 2>You're getting it all right, I think employee names, email addresses,

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<v Speaker 2>company websites, social media posts, anything that can give us

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<v Speaker 2>a better understanding of the target's security posture.

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<v Speaker 1>And what about search engines like Google? Can we use

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<v Speaker 1>them to find sensitive information?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? We use advanced search techniques called Google dorking to

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<v Speaker 2>uncover hidden data. It's like having a secret code to

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<v Speaker 2>unlock hidden rooms in the facility's database.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, we can use it to find specific types

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<v Speaker 2>of files on a company's website, like PDF documents containing

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<v Speaker 2>the word password.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. That's incredibly powerful. It's amazing how much information is

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<v Speaker 1>out there if you know how to.

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<v Speaker 2>Look for it, right. Yeah, But of course we always

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<v Speaker 2>use these techniques ethically and responsibly, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, this document also mentions other sources of information, like

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<v Speaker 1>leaked databases in the dark web.

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<v Speaker 2>Those sources can be valuable, but they often raise ethical

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<v Speaker 2>and legal concerns. I see, it's important to tread carefully

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<v Speaker 2>and ensure any information gathered is obtained legally and effic

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've gathered all this intel from publicly available sources.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the next step in our digital heist, do we

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<v Speaker 1>just try to break in.

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<v Speaker 2>Not quite yet. We need to transition from passive information

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<v Speaker 2>gathering to active reconnaissance.

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<v Speaker 1>So in our heist analogy, this is where we start

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<v Speaker 1>interacting with the target facility, maybe testing the perimeter fences,

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<v Speaker 1>checking for security camera blind spots yep, or even trying

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<v Speaker 1>to blend in with the employees.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. In the digital world, this could involve techniques like

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<v Speaker 2>subdomain enumeration m trying to discover all the hidden servers

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<v Speaker 2>connected to the main network, like finding secret entrances to

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<v Speaker 2>the facility.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to see how strategic this all is. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not just blindly attacking, We're carefully mapping out the entire

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<v Speaker 1>landscape exactly. Cool.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll also analyze their TLS certificates, those digital signatures that

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<v Speaker 2>verify via website's identity. They can sometimes reveal information about

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<v Speaker 2>the systems and software they're using.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like finding a discarded security badge that gives us

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<v Speaker 1>clues about the technology they're using inside exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And the document even gives an example of finding a

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerable code repository on git lab. Through active reconnaissance, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like discovering the facility's security protocols have been accidentally leaked online.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's a huge advantage for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've mapped out the target's digital landscape, we've gathered intel,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've done our recon Right. Now it's time to

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<v Speaker 1>find those entry points. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of it like identifying the weak spots and the

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<v Speaker 2>facilities defenses, the unguarded entrances, the ventilation shafts, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>even a forgotten backdoor.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the digital world, how do we find those

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<v Speaker 1>weak points.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the primary methods is port scanning.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so what exactly is port stanning?

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<v Speaker 2>Think of ports as doors on a computer system. Each

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<v Speaker 2>door leads to to a specific service running on that system.

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<v Speaker 2>Port scanning is like trying all the doors, see which

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<v Speaker 2>ones are open and what's running behind them. It gives

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<v Speaker 2>us a glimpse into what services the target is running

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<v Speaker 2>and potentially reveals vulnerable entry points.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it. So if a port is open, it means

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<v Speaker 1>there's a service running behind it that we can potentially

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<v Speaker 1>interact with.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, And to do this we use a powerful tool

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<v Speaker 2>called ENDMP, like our master key, that can not only

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<v Speaker 2>identify open doors, but also tells us what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>lock is on each door and what might be behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. This document actually shows some examples of end

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<v Speaker 1>map commands and outputs. Yeah, and to be honest, they

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<v Speaker 1>look pretty cryptic to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It does take some practice to interpret the results correctly,

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<v Speaker 2>I bet, but once you get the hang of it,

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<v Speaker 2>end map becomes an indispensable tool. It's like having X

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<v Speaker 2>revision for a computer network.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've found our open doors the potential entry points,

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<v Speaker 1>but before we barge in, need to check the security

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<v Speaker 1>system right. Absolutely, we don't want to trigger any alarms, and.

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<v Speaker 2>In the digital world that means checking their encryption.

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<v Speaker 1>So in our heist analogy, encryption is like the vault door,

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<v Speaker 1>protecting the valuable data inside.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. Encryption scrambles the data and transit, making it unreadable

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<v Speaker 2>to anyone who doesn't have the decryption key. It's essential

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<v Speaker 2>for protecting sensitive information from interception, especially during man in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, what's a man in the middle attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine someone intercepting the communication between our team and headquarters. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>listening in on our plans, or even worse, feeding us

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<v Speaker 2>false information. M that's essentially what a man in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle attack is in the digital world.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's scary. Yeah, So encryption helps prevent that by

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<v Speaker 1>making the communication unreadable to anyone who doesn't have the key.

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely, it's like having a secret code that only our

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<v Speaker 2>team understands.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it. So how do we check how strong their

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<v Speaker 1>encryption is?

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<v Speaker 2>We start by looking at their digital certificate. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>But a strong certificate should have certain characteristics like a

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<v Speaker 1>So we're basically making sure the vault door is made

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<v Speaker 2>You got it, okay. But we don't stop there. We

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that sounds a bit more technical. Can you break

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<v Speaker 1>So the higher the TLS version, the better the protection.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that makes sense. What about cipher suites? What are those?

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<v Speaker 2>Cipher suites are like the specific combination of locks and

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<v Speaker 2>security measures used in the vault. Okay. They determine the

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<v Speaker 1>So they're like the different components that make up the

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<v Speaker 1>overall security system exactly. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And just like with security components, some are stronger than others.

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<v Speaker 2>suite okay, that provides a high level of protection.

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<v Speaker 1>This document mentions best practices for secure communication, like certificate validation,

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<v Speaker 2>huh for ensuring the vault door is properly secured.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, We've given their encryption a fur thorough check

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<v Speaker 2>To par Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm ready for the next phase of our heist.

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<v Speaker 1>What's our strategy.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to need a special tool for this in

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<v Speaker 2>intercepting proxy.

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<v Speaker 1>And intercepting proxy, what's that?

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<v Speaker 2>Think of it like installing hidden cameras and microphones inside

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<v Speaker 1>On, so we can spy on the applications communication exactly Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It allows us to intercept the requests our browser sends

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But the real magic is that we can modify those

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like manipulating the security systems. Yeah, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to override them or trigger and malfunction.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly cool. One popular intercepting proxy is burp sweet Community.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like having a control panel for the applications communication.

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<v Speaker 1>Flow sounds powerful. Yeah, now I remember the curriculum mentioning

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<v Speaker 1>something about SSL termination.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh what was that about? Ah? Yes, SSL termination. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's necessary when we're dealing with encrypted traffic like HTTPS.

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<v Speaker 2>The intercepting proxy needs to decrypt the traffic so we

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like temporarily disabling the security cameras so we

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<v Speaker 1>so no one suspects a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>A very creative analogy. Thanks and Burke sweet handles this seamlessly.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we've got our intercepting proxy set up ready to

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<v Speaker 1>eavesdrop on the applications communication. What kind of secrets are

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<v Speaker 2>One of our goals is to collect as much technical

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<v Speaker 1>It's like studying the blueprints looking for weaknesses in the

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to identify things like the server software in

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<v Speaker 2>its version, the programming language is used, the databases involved,

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<v Speaker 1>And the curriculum says even seemingly insignificant details can be valuable,

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<v Speaker 1>like error messages and HTTP headers.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, those can be like finding scribbled notes left behind

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<v Speaker 2>by the security team revealing clues about the system's configuration.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, an error message might accidentally reveal the version

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<v Speaker 2>of the web server software they're using.

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<v Speaker 1>So we need to pay attention to every little detail,

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<v Speaker 1>even things that might seem unimportant at first glance.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely okay, And there are tools that can help us

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<v Speaker 2>automate this process. Woppilizer and what Runs are great examples.

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<v Speaker 2>They analyze a website and generated detailed report of the

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<v Speaker 2>technologies used.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's like having a team of analysts combing through

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<v Speaker 1>the facilities, security logs and blueprints exactly. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The more information we gather, the better equipped we are

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<v Speaker 2>to find and exploit vulnerabilities.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we've collected a wealth of information about the application. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now what do we start looking for ways to break in?

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's time to go hunting for hidden functionality.

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<v Speaker 1>Hidden functionality is this where we start searching for secret

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<v Speaker 1>passages and hidden rooms.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in the digital world, it's more about finding parts

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<v Speaker 2>of the application that aren't publicly accessible, like backdoors, maintenance,

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<v Speaker 1>I see. So we're looking for areas. Yeah, that might

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<v Speaker 1>be less secure because they're not meant for public use.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, all right. We use techniques like directory brute forcing,

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<v Speaker 2>with tools like f FUF and deerbuster.

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<v Speaker 1>What is directory brute forcing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like trying every possible combination on a lock until

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<v Speaker 2>we find the right one. These tools systematically test different

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<v Speaker 2>or functionalities.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a bit of trial and error, but with

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<v Speaker 1>the help of automated tools.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, we need to use these tools carefully and responsibly,

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<v Speaker 2>making sure we don't overload their systems or cause any disruptions.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it. So we've mapped out the application's public face

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<v Speaker 1>and uncovered some hidden areas. Now it's time to get

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<v Speaker 1>our hands dirty and see if we can manipulate the

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<v Speaker 1>applications behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where things get really exciting. We start looking

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<v Speaker 2>for vulnerabilities that we can exploit.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm ready to put my hacker skills to the test.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of vulnerabilities are we looking for?

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<v Speaker 2>One of the most common vulnerabilities we encounter is cross

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<v Speaker 2>site scripting or EXSS XSS.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that all about.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine planting a hidden device inside the facility that tricks

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<v Speaker 2>the security system into giving us access. That's essentially what

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<v Speaker 2>XSS is. It occurs when an application doesn't properly sanitize

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<v Speaker 2>is user input, allowing attackers to inject malicious scripts into

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<v Speaker 2>web pages viewed by other users.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're tricking the application into executing our code.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and the consequences can be serious. We could potentially

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<v Speaker 2>steal cookies, hijack user sessions, redirect users to malicious websites,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeahkes, that sounds dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The curriculum mentions different types of EXSS, reflected, stored, and

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<v Speaker 1>dom based.

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<v Speaker 2>Each type exploits a slightly different mechanism. Okay, but the

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<v Speaker 2>underlying principle is the same, injecting malicious code into the application.

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<v Speaker 1>This document gives an example of a reflected EXSS vulnerability

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<v Speaker 1>where an attacker injects a script into a search query.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a classic example.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say the application displays the search terms on the

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<v Speaker 2>result page. If it doesn't properly sanitize those terms, we

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<v Speaker 2>can inject a script that will execute in the user's

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<v Speaker 2>browser they view the results.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're tricking the application into running our code by

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<v Speaker 1>disguising it as a harmless search query.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why input validation and output incoding are crucial for

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Input validation is like checking everyone who enters the facility

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure they're not carrying any weapons or contraband,

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<v Speaker 2>and output in coding is like making sure any messages

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<v Speaker 2>sent within the facility, yeah, are properly encrypted so that

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that makes sense. So what other vulnerabilities do we

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<v Speaker 2>Another major one is SQL injection or.

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<v Speaker 1>C LI sql injection. Yeah, I'm guessing that has something

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<v Speaker 1>to do with databases.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, SQL, or structured query language, is the language

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<v Speaker 2>used to interact with databases.

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<v Speaker 1>So in our heist analogy, the database is like the

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<v Speaker 1>vault itself where all the valuable data is stored.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, ok And SQL injection is like finding a way

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<v Speaker 2>to manipulate the vault's controls to make it open up.

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<v Speaker 2>It happens when an application doesn't properly sanitize user input,

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<v Speaker 2>allowing us to inject malicious SEQL code into the commands

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<v Speaker 1>So we're tricking the database into executing our commands. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>how is that even possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say there's a form on the website where users

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<v Speaker 2>can enter their user name. If the application doesn't properly

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<v Speaker 2>sanitize that input, we could inject a malicious sequel command

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<v Speaker 2>that gets executed along with the legitimate query.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like sneaking a secret command into a seemingly harmless.

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<v Speaker 2>Request exactly, and the consequences can be devastating. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>we could potentially extract sensitive data, modify existing data, or

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds terrifying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The document mentions different types of sequy, error based, boolean based,

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<v Speaker 1>and time based.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of them as different of picking the lock on

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<v Speaker 2>the database. Each technique explodes a different weakness in the system,

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<v Speaker 2>allowing us to extract information or manipulate the data.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so how do we prevent these SQL injection attacks?

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<v Speaker 2>The most effective method is to use something called parameterized queries. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the prepared statements.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, those sound a bit technical, Yeah, can you explain

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<v Speaker 1>them in simpler terms?

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine the database has a special language it understands. Instead

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<v Speaker 2>of letting us write messages in that language, directly, parameterized

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<v Speaker 2>queries force us to use pre approved templates. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 2>can fill in the blanks with our data, but we

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<v Speaker 2>can't change the template itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, that makes sense. Yeah, so it prevents us from

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<v Speaker 1>sneaking in any malicious code because we're forced to use

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<v Speaker 1>their pre approved commands.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. It's one of the best ways to protect against

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<v Speaker 2>SQL injection attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've covered EXSS and sqally two major vulnerabilities that

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<v Speaker 1>can be exploited. What else is in our hacker toolkit?

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're moving on to the ultimate goal of any

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, this is getting serious. It's like bypassing all the

437
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<v Speaker 1>security measures and finally reaching the heart of the facility exactly.

438
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<v Speaker 2>And to do that, we often look for remote code

439
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<v Speaker 2>execution vulnerabilities or rcees. Rceeses imagine finding a way to

440
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<v Speaker 2>plant a device inside the facility that gives us complete

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<v Speaker 2>control over its systems. That's essentially what an RCE is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, it allows us to execute arbitrary code on

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<v Speaker 2>the server, potentially giving us complete control over the system.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that sounds incredibly powerful. How do those vulnerabilities even exist?

445
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<v Speaker 2>They can arise from various issues, including command injection, file

446
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<v Speaker 2>upload vulnerabilities, and remote file inclusion vulnerabilities.

447
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's break those down. What's command injection.

448
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<v Speaker 2>It's like finding a way to send commands directly to

449
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<v Speaker 2>the facilities control system okay, bypassing all the security protocols.

450
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<v Speaker 2>It occurs when an attacker can inject operating system commands

451
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<v Speaker 2>into an application that's executing those commands on the server.

452
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<v Speaker 1>So we're tricking the server into executing our command.

453
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<v Speaker 2>You got it. For example, imagine an application that lets

454
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<v Speaker 2>users check websites availability. If it doesn't properly sanitize the input,

455
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<v Speaker 2>we could inject a command to list all the files

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<v Speaker 2>on the server, or even create a new user account.

457
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<v Speaker 1>So it's like finding a hidden terminal that gives this

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<v Speaker 1>direct access to the server's command line.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly cool. The curriculum gives an example of exploiting a

460
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<v Speaker 2>debug page okay, to execute commands on the server.

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<v Speaker 1>A debug page, what's that?

462
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<v Speaker 2>It's like a secret back door that developers sometimes leave

463
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<v Speaker 2>open for testing purposes. If we can find one of

464
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<v Speaker 2>these debug pages, we might be able to use it

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<v Speaker 2>to execute our own commands.

466
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<v Speaker 1>And how do we prevent these command injection attacks?

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<v Speaker 2>The key is to a avoid executing system commands directly

468
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<v Speaker 2>whenever possible, and if we have to, we need to

469
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<v Speaker 2>carefully sanitize the user input and use proper escaping techniques

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<v Speaker 2>to prevent attackers from injecting malicious code.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's all about making sure the server only executes

472
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<v Speaker 1>commands that are intended and safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. Now, let's move on to file upload vulnerabilities.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what are those?

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine smuggling a device into the facility disguised as a

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<v Speaker 2>harmless package. That's essentially what a file upload vulnerability is.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It occurs when an application allows users to upload files

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<v Speaker 2>to the server. Yeah, but doesn't properly validat or sanitize

480
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<v Speaker 2>those files. So we could potentially upload a malicious file

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<v Speaker 2>that gives us control over the server. Exactly. We could

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<v Speaker 2>upload a webshell, for example.

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<v Speaker 1>A webshell what's that?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a script that gives us a web based interface

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<v Speaker 2>to control the server. It's like having a remote control

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<v Speaker 2>for the entire facility.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds incredibly powerful. The document explains that attackers often

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<v Speaker 1>use file upload vulnerabilities to upload web shells and then

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<v Speaker 1>use them to gain further control over the server.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And once we have a webshell, we can potentially do

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<v Speaker 2>anything on the server that the application's user account can do.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like gaining full access to the facilities control room.

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<v Speaker 1>How do we prevent these file upload vulnerabilities?

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<v Speaker 2>There are several layers of protection. Okay. First, we need

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<v Speaker 2>to restrict the types of files that users can upload.

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<v Speaker 1>So no executable files, no scripts, right, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We should only allow safe file types like images or documents.

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<v Speaker 2>And we need to go beyond just checking the file extension.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to actually validate the file contents to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure they match the allowed file types.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're not just looking at the label on the package.

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<v Speaker 1>We're actually opening it up and inspecting the contents to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure it's not a bomb in disguise.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly okay. And finally, we need to store uploaded files

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<v Speaker 2>securely outside the web route so they can't be accessed

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<v Speaker 2>directly through the web server.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that makes sense. So we've covered command injection and

510
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<v Speaker 1>file upload vulnerabilities. Uh huh, what about remote file inclusion vulnerabilities.

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<v Speaker 2>Remote file inclusion vulnerabilities or RFIs occur when an application

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<v Speaker 2>allows users to include files from external servers okay, but

513
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't properly validate the URLs of those files.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like trusting a delivery person to bring a

515
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<v Speaker 1>package into the facility without checking their idea or inspecting

516
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<v Speaker 1>the package.

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<v Speaker 2>A great analogy.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks.

519
00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:39.680
<v Speaker 2>We could craft a malicious URL that points to a

520
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<v Speaker 2>file containing our code, and when the application includes that file,

521
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<v Speaker 2>our code gets executed in the server.

522
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<v Speaker 1>So it's like tricking the application into running our code

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<v Speaker 1>by disguising it as a legitimate external resource.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, okay. And to prevent these vulnerabilities, we should never

525
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<v Speaker 2>allow user input to control the URLs of included files.

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<v Speaker 2>If we need to include external files, the URLs should

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<v Speaker 2>be hard coded into the applications code.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're basically eliminating any possibility of someone tampering with

529
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<v Speaker 1>the delivery instructions exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to make sure that only trusted and verified

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<v Speaker 2>packages are allowed into the facility. Okay.

532
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<v Speaker 1>So we've covered the three main types of RCE vulnerabilities,

533
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<v Speaker 1>command injection, file upload, and remote file inclusion. They're all

534
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<v Speaker 1>about preventing attackers from executing arbitrary code on the server, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, ok RC vulnerabilities are among the most serious vulnerabilities

536
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:38.759
<v Speaker 2>that we encounter in penetration testing because they can give

537
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<v Speaker 2>attackers a significant level of control. Yeah, over the target system.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so we've successfully infiltrated the server. What's next

539
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<v Speaker 1>on our checklist?

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's time to take a closer look at the

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<v Speaker 2>authentication mechanisms authentication.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't we already do that when we're trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>user accounts and passwords.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but now we're going deeper.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to see if there are any weaknesses in

547
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<v Speaker 2>the authentication process itself that could allow attackers to bypass

548
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<v Speaker 2>security or gain unauthorized access.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like analyzing the vaults lack mechanism to see

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<v Speaker 1>if there are any subtle flaws that might allow us

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<v Speaker 1>to pick.

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<v Speaker 2>It open exactly. We're looking for things like authentication bypasses,

553
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:23.799
<v Speaker 2>credential guessing vulnerabilities, and session hijacking vulnerability.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's break those down. What's an authentication bypass.

555
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<v Speaker 2>It's like finding a secret passage that lets us slip

556
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<v Speaker 2>past the guards and enter the vault unnoticed. It happens

557
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<v Speaker 2>when an attacker can access a protected resource without providing

558
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<v Speaker 2>any valid credential, so.

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00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:44.079
<v Speaker 1>They're completely circumventing the login process. How is that even possible?

560
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<v Speaker 2>It can happen due to logic flaws in the application's code, okay,

561
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:53.559
<v Speaker 2>misconfigured security settings, or even vulnerabilities in third party libraries.

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<v Speaker 2>I see their curriculum mentions that even SEQL injection vulnerabilities

563
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<v Speaker 2>can sometimes lead to authentic bypasses.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, so if we can manipulate the SQL queries used

565
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<v Speaker 1>for authentication, we might be able to bypass the log

566
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:10.759
<v Speaker 1>in altogether exactly.

567
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay. That's why it's so important to prevent SQL injection vulnerabilities.

568
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<v Speaker 2>They can have a ripple effect leading to multiple security issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So authentication bypasses are all about finding ways to

570
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<v Speaker 1>completely circumvent the login process. What about credential guessing vulnerabilities.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine trying every possible combination on a vault's lock until

572
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<v Speaker 2>you find the right one. Okay, that's essentially what credential

573
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<v Speaker 2>guessing is.

574
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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking about brute forcing our way into an.

575
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Account exactly, and this can be a real problem if

576
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<v Speaker 2>users are choosing weak passwords, we're reusing the same password

577
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:49.400
<v Speaker 2>across multiple accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>So the strength of the vault's lock depends on how

579
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<v Speaker 1>strong the user's passwords are.

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00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. That's why a strong password policy is crucial. It

581
00:29:57.039 --> 00:30:00.720
<v Speaker 2>should require users to choose passwords that are at least

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<v Speaker 2>twelve characters long, contain a mix of uppercase and lower

583
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:09.119
<v Speaker 2>case letters, numbers, and symbols, and are not based on

584
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<v Speaker 2>easily guessable information like their name or birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>And I bet we also need to make sure the

586
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<v Speaker 1>application is enforcing account lockouts. Yeah, after a certain.

587
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:27.839
<v Speaker 2>Act an alarm system that gets triggered after too many

588
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:31.039
<v Speaker 2>failed attempts, it can help prevent boot force attacks.

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00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:35.559
<v Speaker 1>Got it. So we've covered authentication bypasses and credential guessing.

590
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:38.799
<v Speaker 1>What about session hijacking vulnerabilities.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine stealing someone's security badge and using it to gain

592
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:47.680
<v Speaker 2>access to restricted areas. That's essentially what session hijacking is

593
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<v Speaker 2>in the digital world.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're impersonating a legitimate user exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>A session token is like a digital badge that the

596
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<v Speaker 2>application uses to track a user's session. If we can

597
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:02.559
<v Speaker 2>steal that token, we can effectively become that user.

598
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:07.279
<v Speaker 1>And how would an attacker steal a session token?

599
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:12.480
<v Speaker 2>It can happen through various methods, including EXSS attacks, man

600
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:16.960
<v Speaker 2>in the middle attacks, or exploiting vulnerabilities in the applications

601
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:18.440
<v Speaker 2>session management code.

602
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.279
<v Speaker 1>So it's like finding a way to duplicate a security

603
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:24.079
<v Speaker 1>badge or intercepting it while it's being transmitted exactly.

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00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:28.880
<v Speaker 2>That's why it's crucial to implement secure session management practices.

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00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:31.519
<v Speaker 1>Secure session management practices, what are those?

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00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Think of them as measures to protect the security badges.

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00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:39.359
<v Speaker 2>They include things like generating strong random session tokens, transmitting

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00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:44.599
<v Speaker 2>them over HTTPS, setting appropriate cookie flags, and expiring tokens

609
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<v Speaker 2>after a reasonable period of inactivity.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like having a system that regularly checks the

611
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<v Speaker 1>validity of security badges, revokes lost or stolen badges, and

612
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<v Speaker 1>make sure they're only used for a limited time exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Authentication is a crucial aspect of web application security, and

614
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<v Speaker 2>we need to carefully assess the authentication mechanisms to ensure

615
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:10.400
<v Speaker 2>they're robust and resistant to attack.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, we've thoroughly examined the authentication mechanisms, making sure

617
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<v Speaker 1>the vault's lock is truly unpickable. What's next on our

618
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<v Speaker 1>penetration testing agenda?

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's time to shift our focus to authorization and

620
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<v Speaker 2>access control.

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00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.799
<v Speaker 1>Authorization isn't that the same as authentication?

622
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:28.799
<v Speaker 2>Not quite?

623
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

624
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:33.079
<v Speaker 2>Authentication is about verifying the identity of a user, like

625
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:36.400
<v Speaker 2>checking their ID at the entrance. Authorization is about determining

626
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:38.880
<v Speaker 2>what they're allowed to do okay once they're inside.

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00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Ah I see, yeah, So authentication is like getting past

628
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>the security checkpoint. Uh huh, and authorization is about which

629
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:47.799
<v Speaker 1>doors were allowed to open once we're inside.

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00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:52.720
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. Access control mechanisms are the rules and policies that

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00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:56.599
<v Speaker 2>enforce authorization, okay. Think of them as security guard station

632
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<v Speaker 2>throughout the facility, ensuring that everyone stays with them and

633
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<v Speaker 2>their permitted areas.

634
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:03.960
<v Speaker 1>So we're basically checking whether the security guards are doing

635
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<v Speaker 1>their job properly, making sure that no one can sneak

636
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>into restricted areas.

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00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:13.079
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, Okay. When we're testing authorization and access control, we're

638
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:17.599
<v Speaker 2>looking for vulnerabilities that could allow attackers to access resources

639
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:18.519
<v Speaker 2>they're not supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>And what kind of vulnerabilities do we typically find.

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<v Speaker 2>The curriculum mentions horizontal partitioning and vertical partitioning okay as

642
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<v Speaker 2>two types of security measures that are often tested.

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00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, can you explain those in simpler terms?

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine the facility is divided into different sections, each with

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<v Speaker 2>its own level of security clearance. Right. Horizontal partitioning is

646
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<v Speaker 2>like making sure that people with a certain clearance level

647
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<v Speaker 2>can only access their designated section, like employees only having

648
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<v Speaker 2>access to their assigned workstations.

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00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's about making sure that everyone stays within their

650
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>designated areas exactly, okay.

651
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:59.720
<v Speaker 2>And vertical partitioning is about making sure that people with

652
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<v Speaker 2>higher clearance levels can't access areas reserved for lower clearance levels,

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<v Speaker 2>like preventing executives from accessing sensitive data meant for junior staff.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, it's like preventing someone from using their executive

655
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<v Speaker 1>key card to access the janitor's closet.

656
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:23.519
<v Speaker 2>You got it, okay. And when we're testing for partitioning vulnerabilities,

657
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:26.760
<v Speaker 2>we're essentially trying to break these rules, seeing if we

658
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<v Speaker 2>can access resources we shouldn't be able to.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're looking for any loopholes in the system that

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<v Speaker 1>might allow us to sneak into restricted areas exactly.

661
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:39.199
<v Speaker 2>And one specific vulnerability we often encounter is an eydoor

662
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<v Speaker 2>or insecure direct object reference.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what's an eyedoor?

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine someone asking a security guard for access to a

665
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<v Speaker 2>specific room and the guard just lets them in without

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<v Speaker 2>checking their credentials. Oh, that's essentially what an eyedoor is.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're exploiting a flaw in the authorization process exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that happens when an application uses user supplied input

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<v Speaker 2>to access objects directly without performing proper authorization checks.

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<v Speaker 1>So we might be able to access sensitive data or

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<v Speaker 1>functionalities just by manipulating a URL or a form submission.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. It's like finding a master key that unlocks every

673
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<v Speaker 2>door in the facility even though we shouldn't have access

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<v Speaker 2>to it.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds incredibly dangerous. Yeah, how do we prevent these vulnerabilities?

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<v Speaker 2>The key is to always perform authorization checks before accessing

677
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<v Speaker 2>any object, even if the objects identify or is supplied

678
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<v Speaker 2>by the user. We can't just trust that the user

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<v Speaker 2>is who they say they are or that they're allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to access what they're requesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like double checking everyone's credentials before granting them access,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they seem to have the right key card.

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00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:53.519
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. Authorization and access control are crucial for maintaining the

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<v Speaker 2>security of any system. We need to thoroughly test these

685
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<v Speaker 2>mechanisms to ensure they're working intended Okay, so.

686
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<v Speaker 1>We've thoroughly tested the physical security measures, the locks, the guards,

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<v Speaker 1>the access controls. Is there anything else we need to

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<v Speaker 1>consider in our digitalized.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we need to shift gears and talk about some

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<v Speaker 2>non technical aspects of penetration testing. They're often overlooked, but

691
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<v Speaker 2>just as important as the technical vulnerabilities.

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<v Speaker 1>We've discussed non technical aspects. I thought penetration testing was

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<v Speaker 1>all about hacking into systems and exploiting vulnerabilities.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are definitely key elements, but a truly comprehensive penetration

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<v Speaker 2>test goes beyond just the technical stuff. We also need

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<v Speaker 2>to consider things like business logic, configuration points, dangerous features,

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<v Speaker 2>and regulatory compliance.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking about the bigger picture, the overall security

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<v Speaker 1>strategy of the facility, not just the individual components.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and this is where our understanding of the client's busines, business,

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<v Speaker 2>and how the application actually works becomes even more important.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like understanding the flow of people and information

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<v Speaker 1>within the facility, the daily routines, the security protocols, the

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<v Speaker 1>chain of command exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Let's start with business logic.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what is business logic?

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<v Speaker 2>Think of it as the rules and processes that govern

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<v Speaker 2>how the facility operates, things like how visitors are checked in,

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<v Speaker 2>how packages are screened, how alarms are triggered, how data

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<v Speaker 2>is backed up.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like the standard operating procedures, the guidelines that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's supposed to follow exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes these procedures can be flawed or incomplete, creating

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerabilities that attackers can exploit, even if the technical systems

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<v Speaker 2>are secure.

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<v Speaker 1>So a weakness in the procedures could create an opening

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<v Speaker 1>for us, even if we can't break through the physical

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00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:53.199
<v Speaker 1>barriers exactly okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The document gives an example of a shopping cart application

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<v Speaker 2>that lets users manipulate the price of items modifying parameters

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<v Speaker 2>in a URL, So even.

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<v Speaker 1>Though the application might be secure from a technical standpoint,

723
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<v Speaker 1>the logic behind how it handles pricing is flawed, creating

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity for attackers to exploit it.

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00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Exactly okay, And this applies to all sorts of applications

726
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<v Speaker 2>and systems. We need to make sure the business logic

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<v Speaker 2>is sound, the rules are well defined, and most importantly,

728
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<v Speaker 2>that they're actually followed in practice.

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<v Speaker 1>So we need to think like a malicious employee who

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00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.679
<v Speaker 1>knows the rules but is looking for ways to bend

731
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>or break them for their own game exactly.

732
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<v Speaker 2>Now, let's move on to configuration points.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what are those?

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<v Speaker 2>Think of them as the settings and options that control

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<v Speaker 2>how the facility's security systems operate, things like the alarm codes,

736
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<v Speaker 2>the surveillance camera angles, the access card permissions.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's about making sure the security systems are properly

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00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>set up in configured Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>If these configurations are weak or misconfigured, they can create

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerabilities that we can exploit.

741
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<v Speaker 1>This document mentions some common configuration issues like default passwords. Yeah,

742
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:11.760
<v Speaker 1>unnecessary services running and giving people more access than they need.

743
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:13.639
<v Speaker 2>Those are all classic examples.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Default passwords are like leaving the master key under the

746
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:22.079
<v Speaker 2>welcome that. Unnecessary services are like leaving a back door unlocked,

747
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:25.280
<v Speaker 2>and excessive permissions are like giving everyone a key to

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00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:26.679
<v Speaker 2>the vault even if they don't need it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's all about minimizing the attack surface right, reducing

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<v Speaker 1>the number of potential entry points, and making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>access is granted on a need to know basis.

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely, Configuration management is a crucial aspect of security.

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00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what about dangerous features.

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<v Speaker 2>Dangerous features are functionalities that, while not technically vulnerable, could

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<v Speaker 2>still pose a security risk if misused or exploited.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like having a self destruct button in the facility.

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<v Speaker 1>It might have a legitimate purpose, yeah, but it's incredibly

758
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<v Speaker 1>dangerous if it into the wrong hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. Sometimes these dangerous features are unintentional, the result of

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<v Speaker 2>poor design or a lack of understanding of the security implications.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you give us an example.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine a system that lets employees download all the data

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<v Speaker 2>from their workstations, including sensitive files. Okay, that feature might

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<v Speaker 2>seem convenient, Yeah, but it could be a major security

765
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<v Speaker 2>risk if it's not properly controlled.

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<v Speaker 1>So we need to think about how the features could

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<v Speaker 1>be misused, even if they were intended for legitimate purposes.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

769
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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to consider the potential consequences of every feature,

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<v Speaker 2>not just from a technical perspective, but also from a

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<v Speaker 2>security and risk management perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not just about breaking into the facility. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also about understanding how the facility operates and identifying any

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<v Speaker 1>potential weaknesses in its design or procedures.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. All right, Now, let's move on to the final

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<v Speaker 2>non technical aspect. Okay, regulatory compliance.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what's regulatory compliance.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about making sure the facility adheres to all the

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<v Speaker 2>relevant laws, regulations, and industry standards.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like making sure they have the proper permits, licenses,

782
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and safety certifications exactly. Okay.

783
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<v Speaker 2>In the digital world, this might involve complying with data

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<v Speaker 2>protection laws like the GDPR, payment card industry standards like PCIDSS,

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00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:22.400
<v Speaker 2>or other industry specific regulations.

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<v Speaker 1>So we need to make sure the facility is following

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<v Speaker 1>all the rules and regulations set by external authorities.

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00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and that includes things like data privacy, user consent,

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00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:32.519
<v Speaker 2>and cookie management.

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<v Speaker 1>The document emphasizes the importance of verifying compliance in these areas,

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<v Speaker 1>so we need to check if they're handling personal data responsibly,

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00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:45.119
<v Speaker 1>obtaining proper consent from users, and managing cookies according to

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00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the regulations exactly. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Regulatory compliance is a crucial aspect of security, and neglecting

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00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:55.679
<v Speaker 2>it can have serious legal and financial consequences.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So we've explored all these non technical aspects, right

797
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:04.280
<v Speaker 1>business logic to regulatory compliance. We've gathered a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>Intel uncovered vulnerabilities and assess the overall security posture of

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<v Speaker 1>the facility. What happens next.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's time to compile all our findings and create

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<v Speaker 2>a detailed report for the client.

802
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:22.400
<v Speaker 1>So we're delivering our heist plan, outlining all the weaknesses

803
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:26.840
<v Speaker 1>we've found and recommending solutions to strengthen their security.

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00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:31.559
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. The reporting phase is crucial. We need to document

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00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:35.599
<v Speaker 2>everything in a clear, concise, and actionable way.

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<v Speaker 1>This curriculum stresses the importance of a well structured penetration

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<v Speaker 1>testing report that caters to both technical and non technical audiences.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, we need to provide different levels of detail for

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<v Speaker 2>different stakeholders. A high level executive summary for the CEO,

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<v Speaker 2>a more technical deep dive for the IT team, and

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<v Speaker 2>a clear set of prioritized recommendations for everyone involved.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like having different versions of the heist plan

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<v Speaker 1>tailored to the specific roles and responsibilities of each team member.

814
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Exactly okay. And it's not just about presenting the vulnerabilities,

815
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<v Speaker 2>it's about providing actionable advice on how to fix them.

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<v Speaker 1>This document also mentions the importance of using visual aids

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<v Speaker 1>like screenshots, diagrams, and examples.

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<v Speaker 2>Visual aids are incredibly helpful in conveying complex information, especially

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<v Speaker 2>to a non technical audience. Uh huh, A picture can

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<v Speaker 2>often speak volumes.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember a story from the curriculum about a project

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<v Speaker 1>manager who was so meticulous about the report's format and style, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that they wouldn't read past the third spelling error.

824
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<v Speaker 2>It's a great reminder that attention to detail is paramount.

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<v Speaker 2>Our reports are a reflection of our professionalism and expertise.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to make sure they're clear, accurate, and easy

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<v Speaker 2>to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've meticulously documented our findings and crafted a comprehensive report.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the next step. Do we just hand over the

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<v Speaker 1>report and call it a day.

831
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<v Speaker 2>Not quite, okay. We need to present our findings to

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<v Speaker 2>the client and work with them to develop an action plan.

833
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<v Speaker 1>So it's like briefing the facility's security team, walking them

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<v Speaker 1>through our heist plan and helping them devise countermeasures to

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00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:16.840
<v Speaker 1>protect against those threats exactly.

836
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<v Speaker 2>The presentation is our chance to explain our findings in person,

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<v Speaker 2>answer any questions, yeah, and make sure everyone understands the

838
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<v Speaker 2>risks and the recommendations.

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<v Speaker 1>This curriculum outlines key steps for a successful presentation, including

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<v Speaker 1>setting the context, summarizing key findings, providing detailed explanations, presenting recommendations,

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<v Speaker 1>and fostering a collaborative approach.

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<v Speaker 2>Collaboration is key.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.

844
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<v Speaker 2>We're not there to criticize or point fingers.

845
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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

846
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<v Speaker 2>We're there to partner with the client, help them understand

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<v Speaker 2>the risks, and work to get it towards a solution.

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<v Speaker 1>This document also emphasizes the importance of getting feedback from

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<v Speaker 1>the client, making sure they under stand the findings and

850
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<v Speaker 1>are happy with the recommendation.

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00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, we want to make sure the client feels empowered

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<v Speaker 2>to take action and improve their security posture.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we've presented our findings, had a productive discussion

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<v Speaker 1>and developed an action plan. Is that the end of

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<v Speaker 1>our penetration testing journey.

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<v Speaker 2>Not quite. We need to make sure the client actually

857
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<v Speaker 2>implements the recommendations and that those recommendations are effective in

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<v Speaker 2>addressing the vulnerabilities.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like following up with the security team making

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<v Speaker 1>sure they've implemented the new security measures, retrained the staff,

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00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and updated their protocol exactly. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to ensure that the client is taking concrete

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<v Speaker 2>steps to improve their security and that those steps are

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<v Speaker 2>actually making a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>So penetration testing is an ongoing process, not just a

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<v Speaker 1>one time event.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Okay. Security is a constantly evolving challenge. Think of

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<v Speaker 2>it like a cycle. We assess, we identify weaknesses, recommend solutions,

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<v Speaker 2>we verify the implementation, and then we reassessed make sure

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<v Speaker 2>the solutions are still effective.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm starting to see how complex and dynamic this

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<v Speaker 1>all is. It's not just about breaking into systems. It's

873
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:18.320
<v Speaker 1>about understanding the entire security ecosystem and helping organizations strengthen

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<v Speaker 1>their defenses against a constantly evolving threat landscape.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and by embracing a culture of security, organizations can

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<v Speaker 2>proactively mitigate risks and stay ahead of the curve.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that we've covered the entire penetration testing life cycle, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>from scoping the engagement to verifying the implementation, I'm curious

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<v Speaker 1>to hear what you think are the most important takeaways

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<v Speaker 1>from this deep dive.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that stands out to me is the importance

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<v Speaker 2>of mindset. A good penetration tester needs to be curious, creative,

883
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:54.840
<v Speaker 2>and always willing to challenge assumptions. Okay, we need to

884
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:59.199
<v Speaker 2>think attackers anticipate their moves and find vulnerabilities that others

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<v Speaker 2>might miss.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not just about technical skills, it's also about

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<v Speaker 1>having the right attitude.

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<v Speaker 2>And approach exactly. And another crucial takeaway is the importance

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00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:10.239
<v Speaker 2>of staying up to date with the latest vulnerabilities and

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00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:15.719
<v Speaker 2>attack techniques. The threat landscape is constantly evolving, and what

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<v Speaker 2>was considered secure yesterday might be vulnerable today.

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<v Speaker 1>This document mentioned several resources for staying informed, like the

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<v Speaker 1>O LOST top ten, vulnerability databases, and security blogs.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are all excellent resources. The o WASP top ten

895
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<v Speaker 2>is like a hit list of the most common Web

896
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:39.920
<v Speaker 2>application vulnerabilities. Vulnerability databases like CVE details are like news

897
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<v Speaker 2>feeds that alert us to the latest security flaws. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and security blogs offer insights and perspectives from experts in

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<v Speaker 2>the field.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like continuous learning is essential in this field.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Cybersecurity is a constantly evolving field. We need to

902
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<v Speaker 2>stay curious, keep learning, and adapt to new threats as emerge.

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<v Speaker 1>Well said, and before we wrap up, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>touch on something that resonated with me. Okay throughout this

905
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<v Speaker 1>curriculum the importance of ethical considerations in penetration testing. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a responsibility to use our skills for good yeah,

907
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<v Speaker 1>to respect people's privacy and security, and to operate within

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<v Speaker 1>legal and ethical boundaries couldn't agree more.

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<v Speaker 2>Ethical hacking is a powerful tool, and it's crucial that

910
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:30.519
<v Speaker 2>we use it responsibly. We need to be mindful of

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<v Speaker 2>the potential impact of our actions, okay, and ensure that

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<v Speaker 2>we're not causing any harm.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not just about finding vulnerabilities, it's about using

914
00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:41.440
<v Speaker 1>that knowledge to make systems more secure and protect people's

915
00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:43.000
<v Speaker 1>data exactly. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Ethical hacking is all about using our skills to make

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<v Speaker 2>the digital world a safer place.

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<v Speaker 1>Well said, And another point that stood out to me

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<v Speaker 1>is the importance of communication and collaboration. We need to

920
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<v Speaker 1>clearly explain our findings to both technical and non technical audios,

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<v Speaker 1>work effectively with developers to remediate vulnerabilities and foster a

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<v Speaker 1>culture of security within organizations.

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<v Speaker 2>Communication is absolutely key. A penetration test is only as

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<v Speaker 2>valuable as the insights it provides and the actions it inspires.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to translate complex technical concepts into actionable recommendations

926
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<v Speaker 2>where people can understand and implement.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not just about finding vulnerabilities, it's about effectively

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<v Speaker 1>communicating those finding and empowering people to take action exactly.

929
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<v Speaker 2>Penetration testing is a collaborative effort. We need to work

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<v Speaker 2>together with developers, security teams, and management to build more

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<v Speaker 2>secure systems.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a great note to end on as

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<v Speaker 1>we wrap up this deep dive into the world of

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<v Speaker 1>penetration testing. What's the one key takeaway you want our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners to remember.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the most important thing to remember is that

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<v Speaker 2>security is an ongoing journey, not a destination.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Penetration testing is a valuable tool for assessing and improving security. Yeah,

940
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<v Speaker 2>but it's not a magic bullet. It needs to be

941
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<v Speaker 2>part of a holistic security strategy that includes secure coding practices,

942
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<v Speaker 2>vulnerability management, incident response planning, yeah, and ongoing security awareness training.

943
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<v Speaker 1>So it's about building a culture of security where everyone

944
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<v Speaker 1>is aware of the risks and takes responsibility for protecting

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<v Speaker 1>sensitive information exactly.

946
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And by taking a proactive approach to security, organizations

947
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<v Speaker 2>can significantly reduce their risk and build a more resilient

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<v Speaker 2>digital infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great point. It's like having a strong security

950
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<v Speaker 1>culture is like having a team of vigilant guards who

951
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<v Speaker 1>are always on the lookout for potential threats, not just

952
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<v Speaker 1>reacting when something goes wrong exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everyone within an organization needs to be aware of

954
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<v Speaker 2>the importance of security and their role in maintaining it.

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<v Speaker 1>We've covered a lot in this deep dive. We've explored

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<v Speaker 1>the technical aspects of penetration testing, the different types of vulnerabilities,

957
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<v Speaker 1>the tools and techniques use to exploit them, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>also discussed the importance of non technical aspects like understanding

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<v Speaker 1>business logic, configuration management, and regulatory compliance. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I've gained a much deeper understanding of what penetration testing

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<v Speaker 1>really entails and why it's so crucial for organizations of

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<v Speaker 1>all sizes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, it's been a pleasure

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<v Speaker 2>sharing my insights and experiences with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we wrap up, I wanted to touch on one

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<v Speaker 1>more point from the curriculum that really stood out to me.

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<v Speaker 1>The document emphasizes the importance of reporting and documentation throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the entire penetration testing process.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely okay. Clear and concise documentation is essential for several reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>It helps us track our progress, organize our findings, and

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<v Speaker 2>communicate effectively with the.

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<v Speaker 1>Client, and it also serves as a valuable resource for client,

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<v Speaker 1>providing a roadmap for remediation and future security improvements.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly okay, a well written report can be an invaluable

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<v Speaker 2>asset for an organization's security program. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>As we conclude this deep dive into the world of

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<v Speaker 1>penetration testing, I want to thank you, our expert guide,

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<v Speaker 1>for sharing your knowledge and insights with us.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been my pleasure. I hope this deep dive has

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<v Speaker 2>given you a better understanding of the importance of penetration

981
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<v Speaker 2>testing and the role it plays in securing our digital world.

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<v Speaker 1>And to you, our listeners, stay curious, stay vigilant, and

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00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:36.360
<v Speaker 1>remember that security is a journey, not a destination. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us on the deep dive. Until next time,

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<v Speaker 1>keep exploring