WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.399 --> 00:00:04.759 Okay, AJ's coughing. I can't speak. I don't know what 2 00:00:05.240 --> 00:00:09.439 is wrong with it, but put it on me. Welcome 3 00:00:09.439 --> 00:00:12.919 to episode fifty five of Relationships. Is a bit I 4 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:16.920 can tell from Mike's throat that, uh, he had a 5 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:22.079 long weekend of tasting bourbon and hanging out with attorney 6 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:26.000 brothers I haven't seen in forty years, and so I'm 7 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:30.399 playing hurt today. Area is in Atlantic City, where I'm 8 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:32.439 sure it's freezing. How cold is it there? 9 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:34.159 It is? 10 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:37.399 But I don't really go out much, you know, I'm 11 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:41.399 a joint of view from the inside Atlantic City. 12 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:45.799 That's a rough place to be. There's nothing pretty about 13 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:51.320 Atlantic City, Tim. 14 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:53.320 I'm good like that podcasts with you here. 15 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:58.119 I can't think of anything positive that never happened to 16 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:01.520 me in Atlantic City. No, why does why does he 17 00:01:01.600 --> 00:01:03.880 choose Atlantic City to do these meetings? 18 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:07.760 There is a reason, but it so. He has a partner. 19 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:11.680 His name is Kevin, and Kevin he is afraid to fly. 20 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:13.200 Oh, and. 21 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:16.680 He has kind of I don't. 22 00:01:16.439 --> 00:01:20.799 Know the tradition that after this annual meeting he has 23 00:01:20.840 --> 00:01:24.439 a reunion of his bodies. It's I guess only man 24 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:28.280 are coming to have fun with grown kids who are 25 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:32.079 man as well like things, and they are watching the football. 26 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:34.239 It's center of the year, it's the season. It's a 27 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:36.840 lot of fun. Then they get to the same hotel 28 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:40.400 more or less sometimes they choose between two, and they 29 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:43.560 have the same conference room. It's pretty comfortable and they 30 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:45.519 have a very nice group of people. By the way, 31 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:48.599 so three days of this not conference, but it's like 32 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:52.799 team reunion. And after he spends few more days with 33 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:56.400 his friends from New York and all other parts of 34 00:01:56.439 --> 00:01:59.280 America who are coming to see Kevin, who is his partner, 35 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:00.000 Kenny's partner. 36 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:03.359 You men, I know Kevin and he's. 37 00:02:03.200 --> 00:02:06.280 Such a nice gender and he's a very good person. Yeah, 38 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:07.519 very smart and smart. 39 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:10.159 And in the meantime, everybody hits on my wife and 40 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:11.199 the arena, so. 41 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:15.120 You know there are a few more girls. 42 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:17.280 Are there more young girls? 43 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:20.639 Oh boy, I didn't know about. 44 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:24.919 Yeah, besides you, I'm the youngest. 45 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:27.759 And no, there are two other boys younger than me 46 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:31.240 with Michael, their son, Kenny's son, and the other one 47 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:33.680 and Mail. I think he's thety three. But I'm not 48 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:34.879 sure about the younger girls. 49 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:38.960 Okay, well, I picture my wife getting hit on at 50 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:42.439 the bar all night, there, which would only be appropriate 51 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:44.280 given as the weekend of debauchery. 52 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:46.159 I just had, so you know what. 53 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:47.000 Your wife is doing. 54 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:51.840 She was not screaming yesterday, but she was watching football 55 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:54.319 and you can get a feel that she's into that 56 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:56.919 because I have no club about football, so I'm not 57 00:02:57.039 --> 00:02:59.759 kind of very good supporter. And she's sitting in the 58 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:04.479 bar talking business. She's watching the football on the big screen. 59 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:06.159 So she's a perfect match. 60 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:07.759 That's good. 61 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:10.080 Well, you know why that would have been is because 62 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:12.560 she hates the Eagles almost as much as I do. 63 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:15.439 The Eagles were on TV, so I'm sure, and I'm 64 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:17.960 sure if you're in Atlantic City, there's a bunch of 65 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:21.120 Philly people around that bar, all rooting for the Eagles, 66 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:23.639 so she's probably against them. 67 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:26.439 Yeah, yeah, No, Jerrying is a very classy woman. 68 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:33.360 She behaves probably, she probably had her Dravits hat, one 69 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:36.439 of her everic Dravits hats on and no hat. 70 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:37.840 She's just great here. 71 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:42.520 That's it, look like I said. I mean, I'm texting 72 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:47.039 her as I'm onlike Urban Tastings number eighteen on Saturday. 73 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:52.159 There's nothing I can't I can't criticize her, her behavior, 74 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:58.280 not at all. In Atlantic City. So speaking of football, 75 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:03.360 I mean gambling. Football has gotten so out of control 76 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:06.960 that Irena, this won't make I doubt it won't make 77 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:10.319 sense to you. But at the very end of an 78 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:15.719 NFL game the other day, when when clearly one team 79 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:19.920 has lost and the other team has won, with like 80 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:23.959 no time left on the clock, a team decides to 81 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:27.120 kick a field goal the losing team so they get 82 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:30.800 three more points. They can't win the game, but those 83 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:34.959 three points make it to where gamblers who bet on 84 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:39.480 them win because they were supposed to lose by seven 85 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:41.720 and a half points and they're only going to lose 86 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:44.399 by seven points, and gamblers that bet on the other 87 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:49.120 team to cover let's lose because they let three points 88 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:50.680 come in. At the end of the day, there's only 89 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:55.759 a reason on earth, rational reason that that ball is 90 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:59.519 getting kicked, right, there is gambling, of course. 91 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:03.560 And listen and the referee calling galley of game on 92 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:04.399 that third down. 93 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:08.160 Yeah, there's no means for that. The game's over. Why 94 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:08.839 are we doing this? 95 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:10.879 They wouldn't even have had the time on the clock 96 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:13.560 to kick that kick if a referee hadn't made a 97 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:15.120 ridiculous call. 98 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:19.279 It is absolutely sports. I mean, we've all known it 99 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:22.639 for a long time. There's been instances of referees and 100 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:27.240 players who cheat and gamble. Let's look, you watch a 101 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:29.720 game now the gambling odds are on screen. 102 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:33.560 It's I mean, this is something I always wanted. 103 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:36.920 When I used to do the tout services and the 104 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:39.720 TV show we have was called Football Forecast and aired 105 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:43.439 on a sports center. It was the only gambling show 106 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:46.360 they had. We just couldn't mention the spread, so we 107 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:48.959 treaded it. We really had to walk a fine line. 108 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:53.399 But it's absolutely true. This is for gamblers. There's no 109 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:56.680 other reason why Pete Carroll brings out the field goal unit. 110 00:05:57.160 --> 00:05:59.519 It even happened a couple of weeks before that. It's 111 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:01.079 getting really ridiculous. 112 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:04.839 You know, there's two hours worth of pregame shows all 113 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:08.360 about gambling, all about the spreads and people picking them 114 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:09.600 and all that kind of crap. 115 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:10.959 It's yeah, it's. 116 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:13.000 Taken over the game. It's taken over ESPN. It's the 117 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:17.800 reason we have this ridiculous college football playoffs, twelve teams 118 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:23.920 in them, and they're runing football. They're on a big way. 119 00:06:22.600 --> 00:06:24.360 I know. 120 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:28.439 My favorite story from the last couple of days is 121 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:32.600 this raccoon story Oh yeah, arena. Have you seen the 122 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:35.759 raccoon broke into the liquor store? Oh? 123 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:42.639 Yeah, right, where do we have it was? 124 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:44.639 I think it was down south somewhere, I do. I 125 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:47.560 think I'm not to look at them. 126 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:54.439 But anyway, this recon breaks into a liquor store and 127 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:59.720 it gets in Christmas, gets into a bunch of alcohol 128 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:02.040 and they. 129 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:06.199 He broke the. 130 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:12.439 Drinking that level of a brain of a human, he 131 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:12.920 ends up. 132 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:15.680 He ends up passed out in the bathroom next to 133 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:19.959 the toilet, spretty, seriously. 134 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:22.839 A flat on his face, passed out from being hammured. 135 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:27.480 And now they're selling liquor with like a raccoon label. 136 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:30.680 I heard there's some somebody took the took the opportunity 137 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:32.279 to make it make a buck off this. 138 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:36.279 Now do you think he's there because he had to 139 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:40.240 puke and and uh and got to the toilet and 140 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:42.560 time to puke. You and he's there because he had 141 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:44.959 to go to the bathroom desperately before he passed out 142 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:48.319 and he went there or what why does he spread 143 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:51.079 he go in the bathroom instead of over where he 144 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:51.959 was drinking. 145 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:53.720 Right, why would he go to the bathroom? That's a 146 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:56.519 very good point, like how do they know. I mean, 147 00:07:56.800 --> 00:08:00.079 they don't know that we puke in bathrooms. It's very strange. 148 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:03.199 But look, you know we've seen this with well the 149 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:06.120 movie Cocaine Bear. It's a famous movie about a bear. 150 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:08.000 We found a bunch of coke in the woods and 151 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:10.079 ate it became insane. 152 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:12.920 Sharks eat cocaine in the oceans. 153 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:15.879 Off Florida, and can you imagine a coked up Great 154 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:20.839 white shark Jesus Christ. So yeah, animals partake in the 155 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:25.920 evil spirits that that or all around us, or. 156 00:08:25.959 --> 00:08:29.079 Maybe maybe it's maybe it's some kind of setup. I mean, 157 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:30.560 come on, making it to the sharks. 158 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:31.240 Couldn't be. 159 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:35.679 That's a good point. It could be a setup. 160 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:38.320 But I'll tell you many years ago, many years ago, 161 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:41.480 fifty years ago, one of Rosalie and Jack's buddies came 162 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:44.639 up with some hashish. This is like in the mid seventies, 163 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:48.519 and they all tried it. And the guy left a 164 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:51.639 little bit of a baggy on Rosally's night table and 165 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:56.320 if their first Yorky gypsy ate it. And it was 166 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:59.159 winter time, it was snow on the ground. She was 167 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:03.200 not responding. They were dreading my snow. They were they 168 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:06.519 were putting coffee down her throat. She was just high 169 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:08.919 as fuck. The York kid just got high on the ash. 170 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:13.399 She survived. But yeah, animals can sometimes get into I mean, 171 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:14.279 we used to get. 172 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:16.639 The frat house dogs high all the time. 173 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:21.519 That's so mean. Oh no, I don't know. I didn't. 174 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:22.559 I don't think it was mean. 175 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:25.080 Well, I mean, would you blow would you blow pot 176 00:09:25.120 --> 00:09:27.240 smoke into your little doggie's faces? 177 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:28.639 Now, No, you never did that. 178 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:30.399 And when I was twenty years So if I was 179 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:33.039 twenty years old, I probably would, right, and they'd hang 180 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:36.679 out on the couch at me all night, eating freaking doritos, right, 181 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:37.919 and they'd be having a good time. 182 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:38.799 You don't feel alone. 183 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:41.679 Yeah, they just chill out with you, you know. 184 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:44.000 I want to raise out the topic. 185 00:09:44.039 --> 00:09:47.879 I'm curious why people who are using something they like 186 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:50.440 people who are socializing with them to do the same thing. 187 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:53.639 Let's say you do pots and you want everybody to 188 00:09:53.679 --> 00:09:56.639 try the thing, or you just drink and you always 189 00:09:56.639 --> 00:09:59.480 offer to your body. It's like, oh, let's drink, let's 190 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:01.039 out to get or something like that. 191 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:04.360 Why don't want people to be on the same wavelengths 192 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:07.240 like with you? 193 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.039 I think we all want to get on the same plane. 194 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:14.639 We all want to be equal in our feeling and 195 00:10:14.679 --> 00:10:16.840 how we feel and whats. 196 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:19.840 Up different things a jay. 197 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:22.519 You know, for example, you can drink or smoke and 198 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:25.919 maybe you will remember how like about your friend who 199 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:28.320 pasta when did the suicide? You know it would be 200 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:31.559 painful for and somebody else would dream about Hollwood at 201 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:33.879 this moment having fun. You know, It's like mushrooms. You 202 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:37.039 never know which story will show up and come to you. 203 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:40.399 Yeah, well I never did mushrooms. I've done everything else. 204 00:10:40.519 --> 00:10:42.879 Yeah, I've ever done mushrooms. 205 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:44.639 The greatest thing ever, I know, the greatest thing. 206 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:46.759 I hear, I hear it. 207 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:51.320 But but I mean, if you're doing something bad, you 208 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:54.679 always want to drag your buddies coke and spin into 209 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:57.320 it with you. So you all, you know, it's all 210 00:10:57.360 --> 00:10:59.360 for one, one for all. You're all going down together 211 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:01.679 to get in trouble for something. 212 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:02.600 Yeah. 213 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:05.399 The one guy who says, you know, no, I'm going 214 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:09.960 to be responsible. It's like ostracize from the group. I mean, 215 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:12.559 you can't do that. You got to be part of 216 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:14.120 whatever the bad behavior is. 217 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:17.360 Yeah, yeah, I don't know what you guys have tried. 218 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:19.519 I never tried tablets and there is a reason for that. 219 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:21.399 First of all, I have a type of control and 220 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:24.759 personality for the discipline, not because I'm a good girl syndrome. 221 00:11:25.159 --> 00:11:27.279 But I want to know the alcohol. 222 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:30.919 At least I can know, okay, arena you're getting drunk, 223 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:33.200 or arena, that's time to sleep, because I know if 224 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:36.919 I'll do anything like experimental, I always go to sleep 225 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:39.639 because I'm getting tired. But the alcohol, it doesn't uplift 226 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:42.120 me that much. When I was younger, it did. It 227 00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:45.240 doesn't do that effect for me anymore, to me anymore. 228 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:47.840 But I want to tell you one thing that I tried, 229 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:53.679 but it's something like a hellen. It's not mushroom, but 230 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:57.399 it has the same similar substance as a base of it. 231 00:11:57.399 --> 00:12:03.159 It's ayavasca. That's different. You try that ten times ten time. 232 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:11.720 This is stronger than any tablety. I didn't do it 233 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:14.159 because you take it, you have no idea what's going 234 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:16.480 to happen to you. I never did that type of thing. 235 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:19.120 It's one way ticket and you don't know. Even if 236 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:23.320 you will wake up alive with awuaska, you still lose control. 237 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:28.679 That's actually a mechanism to confront your control, control and 238 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:32.919 personality inside, because we are all living this life under 239 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:34.559 the God. 240 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:38.039 You are you in some kind of safe space when 241 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:41.080 you take it everybody. 242 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:44.480 No, I've done that in Ukraine, but I'd done that 243 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:47.879 with a great shaman who actually came from Amazonia. And 244 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:50.399 I've done that in Portugal to the same man, because 245 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:53.120 I trust the only one person I was blessed with 246 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:53.840 the shamans. 247 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:59.480 You said, the Amazon down south. 248 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:02.600 Can you define what is a shaman? 249 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:10.679 Yes, it's a person first of all, who is a mentor, 250 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:14.840 who's a killer, who is instructor, and they know exactly 251 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:16.879 what to do with you, how to help you out, 252 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:20.759 to go through the subconscious process, how to face your fears, 253 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:24.120 how to deal with the challenge, what to do with you, 254 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:28.120 medical advice just in case you can't handle it and 255 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:32.159 it's difficult for you. How to return you back faster 256 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:35.000 if necessary, because it's always a medical team. If you're 257 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:37.879 a good charm, you have a very good team. And 258 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:41.080 how it happens, it's not just a process of taking 259 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:44.759 the liquid. It's very important how they prepare it because 260 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:47.919 there are two substances inside, and they call it medicine 261 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:49.279 photo thousand t years. 262 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:50.840 I don't know how we started with it. 263 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:55.879 Did you do that? The fraud? The fraud frog a. 264 00:13:55.960 --> 00:14:02.000 Frog, it's combine buff But I try them also, yes. 265 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:04.440 I know, I see, I don't I could ever do 266 00:14:04.519 --> 00:14:07.440 that because of all the vomiting. You throw up, right, 267 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:09.320 you throw up violently for a while. 268 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:10.720 Don't you? 269 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:13.120 You throw off without throwing up. First of all, you 270 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:15.159 have to prepare for footing days. You are not in 271 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:19.919 the salt pepper, coffee, anything, drugs, any kind of medication. 272 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:23.960 So you purify, you clean your body completely. Second, you 273 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:26.279 have to come there with an intention. It's not out 274 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:28.879 of curiosity because your friend did it and you want 275 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:31.840 to do it. You come there to kill yourself. You 276 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:35.399 come there to question the universe. Because people come there 277 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:38.639 after they have been raped, have been abused, when they 278 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:40.759 have a concept, whether they know how to live with 279 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:44.720 a beloved one, or after loss, after trial, after bankruptcy, 280 00:14:44.879 --> 00:14:49.919 so big, big life challenging. That was a turning point 281 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:51.919 in their life and they don't know how to deal 282 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:54.840 with it. They needed support, or maybe they tried any 283 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:58.240 kind of medicine and nothing helps it. Why they decided 284 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:01.559 to try alternative medicine. So there are ways to do it. 285 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:04.360 There should be a very professional shaman. You can go 286 00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:07.840 with the flow. You can trust fully because they magnetize 287 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:10.879 you with a special song. They sing your songs during 288 00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:14.080 a few hours. Can you actually melting in this process? 289 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:17.679 It's a very individual, it's very deep, it's healing. So 290 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:19.679 I wouldn't take it with a joke. I would never 291 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:22.840 blend it up with any kind or I don't know 292 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:26.080 coke prior because I had clients who told me, oh, 293 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:27.559 I really in a couple of days, I go to 294 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:30.600 do aavasca. We applied with a private jet and we 295 00:15:30.799 --> 00:15:33.080 ordered a bunch of cork before to do it. I 296 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:36.480 was shocked. You can die doing things like that. So 297 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:39.360 you always have to be very honest with shaman. You 298 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:43.559 always have to not kind of confess to yourself first, 299 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:43.879 you know. 300 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:48.639 Okay, so it sounds like you had like a very real, 301 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:54.279 very professional, actual shaman. But is there is there some 302 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:57.679 kind of credential you get? Is there some kind of 303 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:01.799 formal education before you can be declared a shaman? Or 304 00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:04.519 can I put up a shingle on my door right 305 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:08.440 now that says, you know, Mike the palm beat shaman 306 00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:13.759 and in chalman business, I will. 307 00:16:13.519 --> 00:16:16.559 Be very honest. I have no idea about the traditional itself. 308 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:21.639 I went with my god feeling and through recommendation. Uh, 309 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:24.440 and it was a very big success. But I don't 310 00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:27.360 promote it at all because it's very personalized. It's not 311 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:28.480 for everybody at all. 312 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:32.240 Uh. And it's not for you know, every person and 313 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:33.120 every life, I. 314 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:37.799 Would say, but uh, it's a it's a mixture of medicine. 315 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:40.679 Well, to me, have to have a guide for that. 316 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:44.240 Well, it's like I wrote about this in my book. 317 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:45.639 My uncle Larry was getting ill. 318 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:48.240 He lived in the woods in New Jersey, wore in 319 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:51.679 New Jersey, deep in the woods, and he was getting 320 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:52.679 he was had cancer. 321 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:53.960 He was getting very ill. 322 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:57.679 And an Indian and actually Native American who lived in 323 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:01.919 the woods found him because he felt my uncle's presence. 324 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:05.440 He found him and began to give him all sorts 325 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:09.920 of tees made of roots and flowers and you know, 326 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:13.440 like all these different things from nature. So that to 327 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:17.519 me is a shaman. Like they're like pharmacists from nature. 328 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:20.160 They just they know what kind of things to give you, 329 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:23.319 what kind of healing powers certain plants have and roots have. 330 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:27.799 And my uncle pulled through. It's an amazing story. 331 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:31.160 He pulled me an ancient Cali tribe. 332 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:34.519 Yeah, cal, it's like that kind of shit. Really really, 333 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:35.200 it's amazing. 334 00:17:35.279 --> 00:17:38.680 Well, I watched an episode of one of the housewives shows. 335 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:42.960 My wife made me watch this, and you know, these 336 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:49.160 women who are you know, borderline, they're adjacent our word adjacent. Okay, 337 00:17:50.279 --> 00:17:54.880 they pay like a fortune for some shaman who's an 338 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:58.960 obvious fraud. I mean, the episode was hysterical, how bad 339 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:01.839 this guy was ripping them off. It just makes me wonder, 340 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:05.400 you know, what is there a credential or not? And 341 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:08.559 if there isn't, I mean, go to a city with 342 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:11.240 rich women and put your shamble up. And you know. 343 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:17.559 They're out in South America a lot, you know, Colombia, Cuba. 344 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:23.559 I've read about them. Yeah, you could. 345 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:26.200 You could be a phony shaman, sure, but the real 346 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:28.880 guys are out there and they do have a knowledge 347 00:18:28.920 --> 00:18:30.440 about about things. 348 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:32.200 But it just scares me. 349 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:36.960 I'd rather take something from a doctor than something from 350 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:37.480 a shaman. 351 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:38.720 I don't know what it is. 352 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:42.240 I've had, like I said, on every drug, but that 353 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:46.160 kind of natural ship scares me. Unless the guys, if 354 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:47.680 he's not a doctor, it just scares me. 355 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:51.200 A j man to you here for a second, I 356 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:52.279 will explain you. 357 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:55.880 I wish I had that image because yesterday I gave 358 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:57.680 a lecture to one of my clients. I have to 359 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:01.799 the longest session in my life for three hours, but 360 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:03.079 it reports it. 361 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:05.319 So the idea that we. 362 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:08.359 Have our physical body and it's visible, that's why I 363 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:11.559 believe in it. And when we are taking drugs and medicine, 364 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:13.880 that's what we are healing. So I have a question 365 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:17.880 for you, why then every cancer or sometimes strong a disease, 366 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:20.920 they are not healed. If medicine is so powerful, why 367 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:24.079 it's not healed because it wasn't content time. Because if 368 00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:27.240 you think about their diagnosis, it's not formed and shaped 369 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:30.559 in one day. It takes time. So you know that 370 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:34.279 body mind connection. They are very strong and powerful. That's 371 00:19:34.359 --> 00:19:37.599 why when shaman is working with you, or any other 372 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:41.440 way of alternative medicine or strong therapists or psychologists is 373 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:44.880 working with you, actually it's working. They are working not 374 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:47.960 with your physical body. They are working with your emotional 375 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:55.799 filled other energetic fields, emotional body, mental body, causal body. 376 00:19:56.240 --> 00:20:02.640 So they are working with the core reason of your disease. 377 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:07.960 Because your disease it's always resolved of your psychological problem 378 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:12.599 where does disease come from telling It comes from something. 379 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:15.880 It comes from paying trauma ten years ago that you 380 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:19.079 forgot about it because you repressed memory so you would 381 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:22.400 never remember about it. That's why when shaman is working 382 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:25.079 with you, and again no promotion, no nothing, but I 383 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:27.480 know how exactly they're working. They're working with you and 384 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:32.920 energetic body, and after your physical body is fulfilled, enlightened 385 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:38.440 and actually hilt itself automatically, but definitely it's a process, 386 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:42.880 sometimes painful, unpleasant, traumatic, but you have to go through 387 00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:46.240 this because people can get desperate because they tried every 388 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:48.599 single ability and work out, so that's why they want 389 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:49.960 to try alternative medicine. 390 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:51.680 Of course not for everybody. 391 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:56.000 But you're not really fixing the emotional problem behind the 392 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:59.720 physical disease. Taking a tablet, that's the problem. 393 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:09.640 I just started shamming near me only four to get 394 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:14.960 to uh these people who look absolutely crazy shopping. 395 00:21:16.079 --> 00:21:16.440 Do you guys? 396 00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:19.000 Yeah, I think it's misinterpreted the words. 397 00:21:19.160 --> 00:21:22.000 You know, like I'm talking about big killers, I'm not 398 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:23.240 about faw. 399 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:27.039 You were dealing with real people who actually wanted to 400 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:28.799 help you and knew a little bit about what they 401 00:21:28.799 --> 00:21:31.160