Speaker 1: So we take our hats off and we have a
moment of silence for our President red Hawk, who didn't
make it through the storm in Florida today. All right,
welcome to Pony Express Radio. What episode is this? I'm
not used to doing this. You guys are killing me here?
What is this? Episode? Number fifty four? Grab them? We
eat them? And I have three of my friends here,
not me, not you. How are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Pete. I am very sorry to hear
that Florida has been completely destroyed by whatever hurricane it
is hanging out down there. We were all hoping California
would go first.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well, the way the Stantus has been with
making laws for the never mind raging manageill, how are
you doing? Raging?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Pete. It's great to be back once again.
Speaker 1: And the Great Charlemagne, how are you doing? Sir?
Speaker 4: Got a splinter in my finger, so you know?
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we have a slew of things to
talk about tonight that I've I've already forgotten basically what
we're going to talk about. But no, no, there's the list. Okay,
all right, let's start with this one. Will Let's have
some fun let's start out with some fun Normally we
keep the funny stuff at the end, and tonight we're
going to Yeah, let's do it this way. So apparently,
it is being reported a source who was on the
Harris Waltz campaign training call attended by veteran campaign strategists
a raging Cajun James Carvill, that Carvell went absolutely ballistic,
cursing at two young Democratic staffers, including one Olivia Juliana,
who works for the Colin Alfred Senate campaign. The barrage
of insults included dumbfat bitch directed at Juliana and out
of touch fagots began when the young staffers presented Carvel
with some social media videos that they've been working on
to appeal to white male voters. Carvel was not impressed
by any of them, saying they lack substance. When a
visibly shaken Homo mail staffer told Carvill he needed to
apologize for using the F word fascist, fuck hit no faggot,
Carvell told him to take his Camo hat and shove
it up his ass before logging off the call. Can
we call Carvel our guy for like one day?
Speaker 2: I mean, I wish the Republicans were this fucking base.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, what's funny is so I'm old enough
to remember when you know the Clinton administration, and I
mean Carvell was on all the shows all the time
calling you just listen here, hass you got the I mean,
how did you know this wasn't gonna happen? Anyone who
has any inkling of who James Carvil is knows you
don't let him around these friggin safe space homos. I mean,
he's gonna drive them crazy. These people are probably in
probably in therapy right now. Big Pharma is just having
the time of their life because I mean, off the
charts freaking new prescriptions. Uh who let him? And if
you see in him lately, who's who let him out
of his cage?
Speaker 2: I mean, that's amazing. We got like this real power
politic guy, the old guard coming up against the new
Democratic face, right, the the silly bastards who are concerned
with safe spaces and DEI and representation and all this
kind of bullshit. It's I absolutely love it. I wish
that I could be a fly on the wall for
all of all of his interactions with these sorts.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't. Can we safely assume that
this is it. He's not gonna be invited to anything
else having to do with Harris Walls. Can you imagine
if if Walls would have there, I mean, Harris would
have been there, She'd have been like, okay, I've heard
this all before and everything. Walls might have started crying.
He might amp on.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is, this is it's actually really interesting,
like if if this guy freaking out really causes this
much of a problem within their own campaign, It's like,
you know, how we've we've known for a long time
that the left is really good at power. They're really
good at just fucking driving power home. Well, if they
start sallying people like Carvel out for being too real,
that might that might go away really really fast. I mean,
this is it's hilarious, but it's also a pretty good sign.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm reminded of interactions of the left doing radicals
with each other in the nineteen sixties, where you have
the old left mauice types who are like, oh read now, bro,
and then you know they just get to the wrecked
by the burnandine door new left types yet again. So
it's interesting to see the old guard actually kick into
action and like say these kinds of things and and
have negative interactions. Yeah, have negative interactions with this kind
of a person.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's her right. I also looked into the dumb,
fat bitch allegations, and in my opinion, they are accurate.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, one thing I don't think Carvell has
ever been accused of is being a liar. So I'm
assuming everything he said was right, and I have to
take him on his word.
Speaker 2: I mean that this this, uh, this, this picture on
screen kind of kind of proves that he is absolutely right.
Speaker 3: Oh god, fact check true.
Speaker 1: I'm trying.
Speaker 3: Oh this is so wrong.
Speaker 1: Who who knew that Mexico was manufacturing tanks?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I mean it's I know that Mexico is
the fattest country on earth. Do we really have to
bring them here? You know, It's one of these things
you hear over and over. Yes, if Mexico had nothing
but sexy women coming across the border, they those every
woman in this country would be protesting every day to
have the border locked shut. But as long as they
look like this, I mean.
Speaker 3: I mean, but but not me, not you, Who's gonna
make our you know, chilupa gorditos.
Speaker 2: Right exactly, Who's going Who's going to put a seed
oil slop in my gullet without these uh?
Speaker 1: If if anything, you look at her, and you know,
if she's making food for you, I mean, and she'd
probably be very upset about making food for you. It's
going to be some comfort food because I'm assuming carbs.
It's gonna be your carbs for a week.
Speaker 3: She's gonna make you nothing but the finest burritos, the
finest burritos.
Speaker 1: Anybody else have anything to say about this subject, Well.
Speaker 4: These people are actually in a minority. And there's one
take where it's like, well, Carvil's finding out that he's
actually on the way out, and you know, these people
have taken over. I don't really buy that. I think
these these you know, gay E f slurs as he said,
I don't want to say it too much on the stream,
you know, gotta gotta keep that monetization on. These people
are much much more of a minority than they themselves
understand that they are. And you know, depending on the
outcome of the election in about a month, they are
going to find out the hard way. I think just
how massively unpopular their worldviews actually are. They've been babied
by the Democratic Party for the most part, and even
the Republicans too, and sort of have an outside sense
of self importance. And if you've ever interacted with people
like this who actually organize themselves, you can see that
in action they sort of bully their way through power.
But I think the take that the woke has peaked
is probably accurate, and they're going to start finding that
they're not simply pushing at open doors necessarily anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, when the rubber meets the road, like
it did here with Carville, obviously, all the lip service
they pay these people is exactly that, And when it
comes down to brass tacks, they don't really have the
patience for their fucking nonsense. You know. The problem is
that that nonsense is being seeded into the minds of
all the youths. So anyone coming up is going to
have the sorts of problems that uh that Carvel doesn't
really want to have to deal with. And it's the
sorts of problems that are going to make them unable
to work with real power politics whenever they run up
against somebody who doesn't have patience for their fragile sensibilities.
They're just going to crumble again. A white pill.
Speaker 1: Well, just looking at this picture right here, this smile
on her face. Picture this smile on her face. And
what do you think it changes to when he says, you,
dumb fat bitch, there's your there's your white pill.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay, you're you're you're asking us to
to to internalize this woman's face into our minds.
Speaker 4: I'm actually thinking about that that Wojack meme. It would
be inappropriate to put it on the uh the screen,
but it's it's that Wojack meme. You know where he's
in like the uh the room and it's a low
lighting and it's like pink. I don't want to describe
it too much now, No, the plapjack means no, oh yeah, yeah, plapjack.
I didn't I didn't know it had a name.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh my goodness. All right, we're gonna move on.
We're gonna we're gonna move on to another subject. We're
gonna go to something serious. We're gonna go to the military.
And for that we're gonna hand it over to the
man raging mandrel God sir.
Speaker 3: All right, Uh so this is gonna be a bit
of a roundup in response to events this week. What
you're seeing on screen is a fleet oiler. However, us
NS Bighorn reportedly had a grounding incident this week, and
this was an interesting little incident because it happened a
couple of days ago and the Navy has so far
not really confirmed it. I haven't seen a Navy Times
article on it yet, which usually when these sorts of
things happen, UH Navy Times article boom immediately posting the
Navy crimes, the Navy slimes all over you know, social media.
I haven't really seen that for this particular incident, so
it's interesting. But we did see some footage on Twitter
about you know, seawater and tree into you know what
appeared to be an engine room, and so it looks
like this probably is legit. And this is of course
the fleet oiler who is serving the USS Abraham Lincoln
Carrier Stripe Group, which was deployed in UH support of
Israel and in the Middle East. So this isn't the
first time we have had a fleet oiler running ground
In fact, actually this last year has been notable in
a lot of either soft groundings or or actual like
hard groundings. Which are you know, basically a lot of
close calls. Essentially some of these ships. A soft grounding
is you can you can pull the ship off of
the you know, the sandbar under its own power. Basically
you don't need assistance from a tug. However, there's other
incidents where there's been a bit of damage and yeah,
that's that's a huge issue. So this is the second
time in about six months that you've had a fleet
oiler operating in fifth fleet or a roundabouts fifth fleet
which is running aground. Why why is this stuff happening.
There's also been other grounding incidences this year. So in
July or I should say in May the article came
out in July, there was a soft grounding of an
expeditionary sea base, and previous to that, late last year
there was USS Howard, which is a DDG station in
seventh fleet had a soft grounding near Bali. So all
of this is all happening in the last year. And
I'm just getting flashbacks to twenty seventeen because I remember
back in twenty seventeen there were about you know, four
ships which had either groundings or collisions, all within roughly
a year, roughly about six months to a year of
each other. So I'm just getting flashbacks because you know,
usually these incidents, don't you know, they don't really cluster
like this. They're usually a little bit more spread out.
But I'm just noticing these patterns, right, So you see
seven years and then seven years after the Balle report
for the you know, which came out twenty eleven, twenty
twelve or so. So I'm just my pattern cognition is
kicking in here. And last, but not least, we also
had an article dropped today about the Department of Justice
being notified of suspected faulty welds welds on subs, aircraft
and carriers at Newport News Shipbuilding. So this is supposedly
an intentional construction flaw, wait or repair flaw.
Speaker 4: So does it mean intentionally faulty?
Speaker 3: The article doesn't give a whole lot of details as
to motive, basically that they just say that, oh, look,
we have multiple articles or season not multipleraticles, multiple welds
that don't need construction standards and this is basically a
quality control issue, and they start thinking that, oh it
must be intentional.
Speaker 2: Right, so it could be sabotage or it could be
bogs standard incompetence.
Speaker 3: It could be yes, but this is a notification to
the DJ that's the headline. That's what's grabbing everybody's attention.
So this is very interesting because all of this stuff
happening all at once, plus this article about you know,
shipbuilding wells and you can understand you hear. For those
who have been around in Pony Express Fail, you will
remember my very very long rant a couple of months
ago about all of the stuff that's been happening with
the Navy shipbuilding construction schedule being behind. None of this
is a good picture for the Navy, and it just
seems to be getting worse. That's the main point. And
the fact that you have fleet oilers running around is
very significant because you know, usually when you hear about
ships running around, it's a DDG like usually you know
it's an actual active duty Navy personnel. Fleet oilers are
a different thing. They are run by Military Sealift Command.
They are not actually captained and driven by naval personnel
by active duty service members. They are civilians which are
given a job. They have to pass very rigorous coast
Guard certification. Right, they have to understand coal rags rules
the road all of this stuff and be able to
certify basically ship handling like the Merchant Mariner's version of
ship handling certification basically, And so this it's very unheard
of for these ships to actually run aground or have
anything bad happen to them. This is what the Navy
considers to be high value as a target, right. It
has the same strategic value as an aircraft carrier, because
this is what's supporting your logistics. It's supporting your ability
to fuel your ships and to project power abroad. If
you don't have the ability to do underderway replenishment, how
are you going to get gas other than pulling into port. Well,
if you pull an support, that means you're now targetable
import and it means that your your schedule becomes easily
known and your position becomes is more easily known to
the enemy. So this is very unheard of, and it's
not good that this is happening by any means.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, when you take into consideration that the
founders felt that the Navy was supposed to be the
one standing military, which made sense and still makes sense,
not in the same way. I mean, basically, our our
whole country runs off of commerce and war. I mean,
if our navy is becoming incompetent or you know, falling
apart and they think that there may be sabotage, I mean,
there's really it really speaks to how a lot of
these billionaire tech bros we're talking about how the military
is the most important, you know, one of the most
important things to that whenever they talk, they're talking about
what you said, the greatest military, and people wouldn't screw
with us. That's why we had cold wars instead of wars.
I mean, right now, it's like, what do we do?
I mean, if this doesn't only this isn't only worrying
to us, other powers are looking at us and going,
what the hell are they? You know, they're really going to.
Speaker 3: Ship right, And of course, the mitigation of this particular
oiler running aground and having some damage that needs to
get repaired as oh, well, they found or in their
process of finding some kind of commercial oiler as a replacement.
But that's a commercial oiler, right, It's not. It's not
the same. It's this This ship has a specific equipment
configuration that is designed and you know, it has the
capability to do underway replenishment and that's what its job
is intended to do. So trying to do to replace
that with a commercial a commercial vessel, there's historical precedence
of why you don't want to do that, right, of
why the Navy and any navy, historically it's more important
to have a standing nav than a standing army because
the construction timelines are just much longer, and once naval
technology becomes obsolescent, well, you had to have all of
the ships in the construction pipeline like ten years or
five years previous to the new thing coming out, and
you have to be able to have it insufficient number
to have it on mass in the fleets by the
time it gets out there and tries to do damage
on the high seas. So really all of these things
provide a very bleak picture.
Speaker 2: So I've got a question for you, Mandrel. We keep
getting these stories coming out of the Navy of incompetence
in dei doing it. Do you think the reason for
that is that the Navy is the most active branch
us being a pallisocracy around the world, or and that
all of our branches are in this bad of a shape,
or is there something especially bad about the Navy.
Speaker 3: I would say that there's there's something especially unique about
the Navy for the reason that you listed. Like so,
the Navy's entire purpose is power projection, as I mentioned before,
and this may be a little bit less true now
that they're starting to decommission a lot of the old
Cold War era ships that have been around. Like I
mentioned on stream previously, they're dicommissioning the cruisers because of
that reason, you've had twenty years of putting him on
deployment schedules in the Gulf. And that's true Navy wide basically.
But the problem is, well, now you're in a period
of transition, and as you're decommissioning old ships, you need
to have replacements readily available. And the problem with a
lot of these ships, and that's especially true for the cruisers,
is the Navy does not have a ready made replacement
which is supposed to take the role of these ships
which are being decommissioned earlier than their scheduled life cycle
was supposed to end. So this is basically the entire
problem of why the Navy is having the issues that
it is because you have commitments that you've made strategically, diplomatically,
et cetera. You have an ever shrinking supply of assets
that you're supposed to accomplish operational and strategic tasking with.
And the solution that the Navy has come up with is, well,
you know, just you know, make my sailors work one
hundred hour work weeks, ride these ships hard, put them
away wet haha, all pun intended, but really it means
that you're deferring maintenance schedules as well. And so this
is why you're having all of these problems because in
addition to deferring maintenance, once you actually get the physical
maintenance and the ship done, your there's a tendency and
we saw this with in the Ukraine War as well,
the tendency to compress training type timelines and training pipelines
and certification timelines. So the problem with this is how
do you how do you get it back right? How
do you in military terminology for those who know what
getting it back means is okay, how do you how
do you get the initiative back? How do you avoid
you know, just going into a death spiral. Well, it's
not entirely clear because the ship construction schedule needs to
be addressed and then after ship construction, you require several
months to man and to adequately train the personnel who
are going onto these ships. So this is not a
problem that can be solved in a very short amount
of time. This is now a long standing problem. And
you are entering into a phase which is probably a
little similar to the end of Vietnam, perhaps even the
Doldrums period post American Civil War as well, where you're
having a period of physical change over and technological change
and a more dynamic strategic environment. The difference being that
the dol Drums period of the American post Civil War,
the Navy was not really required to project power abroad.
You didn't need to, you know, have a gigantic navy
that could defend your country because you don't really share
a land border with anybody except can in Mexico, and
the Canada's phenominally friendly power in Mexico's not an enemy.
So where exactly are you going to take the strategic
decision to take a step back. And it feels like
to me that no one at the strategic level is
willing to say, all right, we need to take a break.
We don't have the assets to get all of these
things done. We need to start prioritizing what we're actually
going to do here, and it doesn't feel that there's
any prioritization whatsoever. Again, this is a strategic problem that
can only be solved at the strategic level. There's no
there's no amount of mitigation at the level of the
individual ship. There is no amount of operational planning that
can mitigate this. This is a strategic level problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I'm really against black pilling, but you know,
when our ships are running aground and the Indians are
shitting on the moon, it's we have problems. We should
be ashamed of ourselves.
Speaker 4: At least it's only the robots shitting on the moon.
Speaker 2: I knew that there was a reason they programmed their
robots to be able to squat. I couldn't think of
a why else say we want to do that?
Speaker 1: But well, do you have anything else on that anybody
else want to want to chime in on this one? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I want to ask Mandrel about training, because you've mentioned
training a lot, and there's the idea of training to
actually operate the ship you're on in the position that
you know your job, there's the training for your particular job.
But what about training for combat. I mean, the US
Navy has barely seen combat in the last several decades,
and now we have this situation where these carrier strike
groups are patrolling the deer in the Middle East and
you have land based who ties firing missiles at them.
I mean, is there training to deal with this? Do
the naval personnel even know what to do in this situation?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: What is the strategic plan for dealing with these sort
of asymmetrical scenarios, Because it seems like the Navy's mainly
oriented towards containment of China, but the same ships are
used in the Middle East to a completely different purpose.
Is there any particular training difference here or what?
Speaker 3: Right, So it depends on what asset class is being
used to hypothetically attack our ships. I assume you mean
like Iran in this case, which Iran is gonna because
it is low key in the position that it is geostrategically,
their naval strategy is going to be kind of similar
to China's in a way which is anti access area
denial and which essentially means, Okay, I use my naval forces,
I use land based missiles, I use aircraft and with
a relatively small force in the actual surface naval terms
or submarines. It doesn't need to be the most capable.
You just need to deny a zone of control to
somebody from entering a constraint area like the Strait of Hoomus.
So I hope that answers your question. But in terms
of training, the the actual training when that I'm talking
about the Navy actually does teach people how to operate
the equipment that they're supposed to operate. When I talk
about compressed training timelines, and I'm talking about a very
specific pattern that you see in Comprehensive Review, which is
a document from twenty seventeen that refers to the actual
grounding of USS and Tenam as well as the John
McCain and the Fitzgerald and the us SA Champlain as
well in their collisions back you know, seven years ago.
So the pattern that I see with that is you're
either your maintenance schedule, because you have a deployment schedule
at the fleet level, right where you're saying, okay, like
just think of like a plug and play management like
you know, graph or Excel Spreadshoot, we were like, okay,
we want this ship to go on deployment at such
and such time because they're replacing and or relieving this
other ship on station in the Persian Gulf or in
seventh Fleet or wherever at such and such time. Right,
those schedules kind of have to be maintained because otherwise
you your your basic choice is as a warfare commander,
which is the cocom's right, the guy who's actually running
fifth Fleet at the guy who's actually running seventh Fleet.
Your choice is, Okay, I bring this ship over and
it comes over on time and relieves this ship, and
so I get a new ship to play with as
an admiral, or I now have a gap in in
you know, several months of an asset class of a
carrier strike group or a DDG or whatever that I
want to be able to have under my you know,
tactical and operational control. The where this begins to to
hamstring in terms of training is the decision is going
to be, well, Okay, I have a lot of things
I need to do. I'm not willing to prioritize or
to say no or to cancel specific obligations at the
strategic level, and in not canceling it, I am required
to send a DDG over here, I need to send
a carrier strike group to go do something over here.
I need to do like vbss ops with this country
because they requested it from us, and we have that
obligation and they have some diplomatic thing in the jake
that we want from them. Right. So there's this this
system of obligations and that unwillingness to say no, we
can't meet our commitments at the strategic level gets devolved downwards, right,
So all of the pressure at that level gets devolved
down to the operational level, and the operational level and
the maintenance schedules basically say okay, well, we're either going
to defer maintenance to a later date or we're going
to you know, we're just not going to plan for
the fact that you have thirty year old, thirty five
year old warships that simply you know, it's like, as
anybody ever watched gas Monkey Garage, right, you go into
an old vehicle and you try to do maintenance on it,
and it's never just the one thing that you thought
it was when you take it in to do the
corrective repair. It's always, oh, well, we found this thing
or that thing, and it always takes longer, it is
more expensive. That's what's happening at the fleet wide level, okay,
And the Navy's strategic decision in terms of training is
to either abbreviate or to simply cheat and say, oh, well,
you guys on this ship, you performed a anchoring in
such and such port. We are going to count that
as your training, if that makes sense. So you are
doing an actual evolution on the high seas, and that
is going to count as your vessel's training. So you're
not actually getting trained on anything. You're you're doing it,
but your personnel, like once they arrive on board the ship,
they're not actually they're not actually really like doing because
perfect practice makes perfect To try to put a very
small analogy of this, you can't just throw somebody on
board a ship, even if they've been to school. It's
not quite the same, and then expect every single person
in all of the different skill set positions to to
operate and to do things correctly the first time. That's
not how that works. And that's why the Navy is
running into the trade the trouble that it is because
all of these factors are now coming together at the
ground level. I hope that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yes, anyone have anything else for mister mantrel or are
we going to move on to the next exciting topic?
He shocked?
Speaker 2: Got it?
Speaker 1: Maybe? Okay, there you go, there we go. All right,
So it looks like mister the future Vice President J. D.
Vance is he's decided to set the narrative about legal
and basically what an immigrant is. So I know that
mister not me, not you wanted to talk about this. Uh,
what's it seems like mister Vance a little while ago
was talking about how you know, oh, we need all
the legal immigration. We can get what's going on there?
Mister or not me, not you?
Speaker 2: Well, let's play the uh let's play the video to
get his words and then we can we can take
it from there.
Speaker 4: Hi.
Speaker 5: Senator me McCarthy with Politico. Question for you about the
Haitian migrants in Springfield. So, I know you've talked a
lot about how we need to deport legal aliens, but
I wanted to ask you the majority of the Haitians
in Springfield came under TPS, so they are here legally.
And I know you've expressed a lot of your issues
with the TPS program and wanting to change that under
a Trump Vance administration. But I guess my question for
you is, if you become the vice president under a
Trump administration, what will you guys do about the migrants
that are already there since they did arrive legally, and
follow up to that, if you plan to support them,
how would.
Speaker 3: You do that legally?
Speaker 6: Well, look, this is a media and Kamala Harris fact
check that want to I want to clarify and clear
up right now, and here's.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 7: The media loves to say that the Haitian migrants, hundreds
of thousands of them, by the way, twenty thousand in Springfield,
but hundreds of thousands of them all across their country,
they are here legally. And what they mean is that
Kamala Harris used two separate programs, mass Parole and tim
I'm very protective status. She used two programs to wave
a wand and to say we're not.
Speaker 2: Going to deport those people here.
Speaker 7: Well, if Kamala Harris waves the wand illegally and says
these people are now here legally, I'm still going to
call them an illegal alien. And illegal action from Kamala
Harris does not make an alien legal.
Speaker 2: That is not how this works, all right, Yeah, that's
pretty much. So there's two major things going on here. First,
I think that for the first time we're seeing Republican
candidates and I mean, I guess really the second time
if Trump was the first in twenty sixteen speaking to
Americans and their concerns, because you know, it's not just
white Americans who are upset about this massive influx of
Third world savagery coming in under the Democrats. You know,
you can see it in every community that's being affected.
And you know, there's a lot of videos out there
now about blacks going to town hall meetings and freaking
out because there's this this this foreign population that just
appeared in their in their neighborhoods. So it's, uh, it's
one of these things that kind of bridges racial boundaries
and they're actually hitting it, which is great to see
because as we know, the GOP is far too cowardly
to actually speak in in uh in terms like this.
But the second thing is is a dvance here is
talking raw power politics. Legal and illegal are completely meaningless
phrases when you're when the power structure doesn't have any
kind of binding ethos or a culture that that they
share with with the populace. You can make rape legal,
that doesn't make it less evil. So the the Biden
administration doing some some law jiu jitsu in complete violation
of the founding ethos of this country and of the
ethics of the people who live here, to make it
legal under the system doesn't really mean anything. So if
that's just and that's just raw politics, See who makes
the exception is sovereign, so they can If if the
Biden administration can make this kind of invasion legal, then
the next administration can come in and say, well, all
of that was illegal. And this is where we are
as a country. It's a it's it's quite there's a
lot going on in this in this right here.
Speaker 1: Anyone else got anything? I would say that as somebody
who has had Haitians PLoP down about fifty minutes for me,
that first town hall meeting you saw in Silicaga, Alabama,
which was I guess the first one you saw outside
of Springfield, Ohio. That yeah, they they were brought here.
They can leave. It's that easy. Is that? You know?
When I go on a trip, when I go to Florida,
when I drive to Florida, I get there, I come home.
It's that simple. I even use the same vehicle when
I do it, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: There's just a tweet that came out not too long ago.
It had like a Google map's flight from Ohio to
Haiti and it had the plane going from Ohio from
Haiti to Ohio, and then the next picture was just
the reverse trip. And the tweet said, there are people
who will tell you that the right image is impossible. Yeah,
Like as if once they get here, once they're flown in,
all the planes just shut down and there's no way
to send them back. Like if this is a if
this is a question of what's illegal and legal, it's
that's it's not real. It's a question of will, and
if if Vance is signaling that the uh, the Trump
administration is going to have the will to send these
people back. UH in opposition to you know, half half
the country with their weird, brainwashed love of the foreigner
UH and their oikophobia, and the the legacy media with
their again oikophobia and love of the foreigner, and they're
they're they're obsession with the destruction of America and the
Democrat politicians who are getting rich off of it, and
Republicans then this is this is this is what we want,
This is what we need. We need people who are
willing to say we're going to do something that's going
to help America and her citizens whether you like it
or not.
Speaker 1: Well, my old buddy would pit here in the comments
that he's reading that the Haitians Haitian just caused another
fatal accident in Springfield today. Here it is, okay, So
we have this idea that because we've been trained this way,
we've been brainwashed this way, that immigration is good, these
people belong here just as much as we do. That
just needs to change. You just have to change people's minds.
It's going to take time. But really, if you come
in there with somebody, with somebody who's willing to crack
down on the who's willing to crack down on the press,
who's willing to I don't know, seize Wikipedia and basically
do things that needs to be done because the regime
in charge is basically a gigantic brainwashing outfit, then you
can change people. If twenty twenty taught us anything is
that people don't think for themselves. They don't want to
be they don't want to be free, they want to
be told what to do. Okay, immigration is bad, these
people got to leave. And if you say that enough,
like say that for a week over and over again
on a you know, in the newspapers that you seize,
people are going to be like, yeah, they got to
go back. It's that simple. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And when when we're talking about public perception of these things,
what we're talking about is a legitimizing myth. Uh. When
when integration was forced on the South at the at
the at the end of a ban at people just
accepted it like there obviously there was there was fighting,
and there was there was resistance, but after a little
while it was forgotten, uh, intentionally forgotten or memory hold
that people fought against it to begin with. So if
you have the will to do that and the ability
to fight the other powers in the government that are
trying to increase the third worldification of the United States,
then you just do it, and then you manufacture consent.
Later we have the mass media now manufacturing consent over
an entire country's population is well within the ability of
the people in charge. And is whoever controls those levers
controls the legitimizing myth. And that's all you need to do.
I mean it. You know, I'm saying it flippantly like
it's easy, but I'm not in power. Maybe these guys
understand that and there's they have means to do that.
Speaker 1: Elon Musk and a couple of his buddies start saying this,
things change. Look at Canada, Canada. People in Canada are
up with Indians. Who would have thought Canada. I mean,
these are basically nice people. They they're so eat God,
they're just way too nice. And now you have normal
people getting togethering on. Yeah, there's we gotta do some
about these Indians. Yeah, people are starting to feel it here.
People believe me. I meant, when you talk to somebody,
when you're in public, go out in public, mention Haitians,
somebody's gonna have You're gonna have an opinion on it.
Somebody is gonna have an opinion on it. And this
is worry. This is troublesome to people. I don't know
why it is. I don't know why why it wasn't Mexicans.
I don't know why it was in Indians. I don't
know why it was in Asians. But this, I mean,
I can maybe guess, but yep, the fact that they
come from an island that they've basically made unlivable, and
they practice voodoo and eat people, people, anyed animals. I
don't know, maybe people are picking up people are like huh,
I saw the movie The Serpent in the Rainbow, and yeah,
maybe we don't want those people here a mess. I
heard that they were in South Florida and there was
a bunch of them in South Florida. But I don't
go to South Florida and stuff on vacation. Oh now
they're coming into my neighborhood. Oh here's a problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if this is a case of
them not not boiling the frogs slowly enough where they're
I mean, we know that they've been dumping Somali's and
white enclaves, but it's been relatively slow. Now it seems
like they're really picking up the pace. So it's kind
of easy to uh to to get on top of.
And like like any society, any racial group, any country,
is going to have high cast individuals who are marder
than their cohort, their racial cohort, and their countrymen. And
prior to mass immigration, we could get those types. I'm
in New England and we don't have a lot of
Haitians up here, but we have some yet, and I've
worked with some of them who, while sometimes we have
difficulty communicating, they are largely intelligent enough to grasp complex ideas.
The ones that are now being flown in those are
not the high caste. Those are the ones who couldn't
get out. Those are the ones who were prisoners there
and should should have remained prisoners on their own island,
in their homeland and not come here where we have
to be prisoners with them.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, anecdotally, at the UN General Assembly, a
Haitian politician decided while he was speaking he needed to
have a sip of water. So he picked up the
whole water jug you know, sixty seventy ounces, lifted it
up to his mouth, spilled it all over himself, and
just drank out of it. I mean, I know this
is anecdotal, but it's like, Okay, this is your high
cast what are we expecting out of Yeah, there you go,
exactly what you're expecting.
Speaker 2: I mean, so that picture is there right in front
of the glasses, like, my dude.
Speaker 3: Come.
Speaker 4: Honestly, it's a chad move. I would also drink from
the picture.
Speaker 2: Right, So now we have to go with is this
man asserting dominance or being retarded?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's hard to tell. You know, you
messed up the execution and you know, yeah, you know,
it's only a chad move if you're successful.
Speaker 2: Too true, too true, But I mean speaking of Haitian,
this kind of segues directly into the Haitians of Springfield,
Ohio being I guess they're getting there. Oh man, we
don't eat pets, we vote pete. You said this in
the pre show. Those things aren't mutually exclusive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean they can eat pets and vote.
They can eat your cat and vote. I don't understand
why why would you even bring if you're accused of that,
why would you even bring it up? You know, it's
like it's like somebody is if somebody's If you're going
after somebody on Twitter and they're just like like retarded,
just ad hominem's, do you address the ad hominem? Do
you start arguing, well, no, you know, I'm not I'm
actually I'm not gay and everything like that. Haha, I'm married,
and there's no you ignore that and you call them
a faggot back or something like that or you if
there's some kind of argument in there, you address the argument.
Why would you even bring that up? Why would you.
Speaker 2: Address that some woman on some campaign thought would be
that would be a pithy thing for social media. Uh,
you know, playing directly into the frame of of of
what Donald Trump and jd. Vance have been saying. And
it's one of these things like, would we know that
these people are a drain on the system. We know
that they're doing damage to these these areas of of
of Springfield and Alabama and other places that they've been
they've been dumped into. What would it cost them to
start organizing and making and trying to make themselves boons
to society instead instead of getting out there and saying
we're gonna we're gonna dispossess you and uh, make your
vote not count, it's them actually going out and doing
good things in the community. But that's not the way
these people think, right. They don't understand the foundations that
built America. They don't understand they don't have the mindset
of the European They it's beyond them. All they have
is animus And if they win this fight, they're just
going to have to start another. So it's like they
have to they have to go, they all have to go.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I thought z Men made the best point
about this. You can argue, you can argue economics, you
can argue culture, you can argue, we don't fucking want
you here. This is our fucking our town. We don't
want you here. And the fact that the richest people
in town are not getting like renting buses and a
fucking private army calling Eric Princes saying bring people in
here and get them the hell out of here. Even
if this causes a like the National Guard, maybe that's
what has to be done. Maybe that's what happened. Maybe
the mayor of a town just has to go, you
know what, it's gonna kill our budget. But we need
to call executive outcome or someone to come in here
and just say get these people out of here.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: That would be an interesting development. I would love to
see something.
Speaker 1: Like that, because that's what they want. Okay, that is
exactly what they want. I mean, what else could the
regime want when you do this, when you basically turn
you know, I've been saying this all I've been saying
this for about a week. Basically, Springfield is a Haitian town. Now,
if you don't go in there and just basically, I
mean not basically, you just fucking gather them all up,
take them, put them on a fucking barge and put
them anywhere but here anyway. Springfield is a Haitian town. Now, okay,
what's the next Haitian town? I mean Montreal, you know,
And people are like, oh, well, they don't even like
the cold. Oh really, you know people you know in
Northerners are like, they don't like the cold. Well, it
gets pretty cold in Springfield. There's a freaking suburb of
Montreal that is Haitian. They seem to be They're not
so bad with the fucking with the cold, now are they?
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you have stayed subsidized heating, I they like,
what does it matter? They just stay inside during the
cold months.
Speaker 4: Yeah. This isn't like a D and D game when
they're in like the Plane of Ohio. They take one
D four cold damage per turn or something like. They're
just gonna be there anyway, especially with the state once
them there. They interesting, I mean, this is it's really
interesting how the left in the regime is really going
out of its way to defend this because I mean
it goes very much against the narrative that the woke
is being put away, and you know, the woke is
not just like gay shit and whatever movies Disney produces.
It's it's also this, and they're really defending this to
the hilt, when if they were trying to be tactical
and sort of tactically you know, put the woke away
to preserve that power, you would just be like, Okay, well, yeah,
this is this is too much. We'll just get rid
of these Haitians because they don't need the Haitians to
to succeed in their replacement agenda. I mean, the the
Haitian thing is just like the icing on the cake
to just really punish Americans. They could just remove these people,
you know, quietly, not make a big fuss about it,
and then just go back to what they were doing.
But instead they're doing the exact opposite thing and doubling
down on defending the presence of Haitians, which is, you know,
really just good for us in the long term, uh,
in terms of having clear demonstrations of what the current
American government is all about, which is just destroying white people.
I mean, again, we've talked about this before. The only
reason these people are here is to kill white people.
That's that's the sole justification for having them in the country.
Speaker 1: There are reports that they're that they're buying guns without
that they don't even go through the it's the next
system that they're they're they're paying for it with the
money that the government is giving them. Now, to me,
that's an army is being armed. That is a white people. Yeah,
and I don't think that I don't think that that's
being hyperbolic. That's what the that's what that's what Haitians.
That's their fucking history. That's how Haiti was founded by
killing all the fucking white people on the island.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're we are. We've seen the emergence
of an entire political party like as you as both you,
Pete and Charlie said that is that exists solely to
destroy the United States and its founding stock. And we
see it. I mean it's the same in Europe. We
see that in Ireland. Once the people start burning the
migrant centers, they've started building them out of concrete. They
will do anything to get these racially aggrieved, violent people
into white communities and it's just a matter of time.
And they know this, and it's what we're fighting against
is a regime that wants to kill you, and it's
propaganda apparatus that teaches your neighbor that it's either not
happening or that it's a good thing. So it's like,
this is why you need to vote in this election,
even if you don't think it's going to be legitimate,
which it isn't, but you have to do what you
can to damage the regime. Anything that takes energy away
from the regime, that makes it put more energy into
its deceptions is worth your time, because this is an
existential war we're fighting.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's an existential war that I think it
was an existential war. I think with the introduction of Haitians,
especially in the kind in the numbers that Springfield got,
it's gone beyond that now. I mean, it's there. You know,
you can you know why it's happening, but now it's
you know, people are dying, you know. Steve Sailor. Steve
Sailor most indicated when he talks about whenever you have
a bunch of minorities like these who look like these
put into one area and you get tension, they start killing. Yeah,
they said, it's the the I'm sorry, the traffic accidents
go through the fucking roof. Steve Sailor most indicated, it's
it's it's incredible. But that's the least of it. They're
going to decide that this is their town soon, because
you already have the tension that's happening there. People independent
reporters are going there to report, They're going to there's
going to come upoint where they're going to be like, well,
we'll just do what we do at home, and that's
going to happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a there was a threat on Twitter
where someone told Scott Adams that the average IQ of
Haiti was sixty three, and he refused to believe it,
so he went in looked into it and then came
back and eventually found out that, in fact was sixty three.
Now I believe I believe the it's like standard deviation
on the IQ curve is like fifteen. It might be thirty.
I don't know, but any case, one hundred is average, right,
And if someone's like someone's like around thirty points like
removed from where you are, it becomes difficult to understand
how their mind actually works. So you have to realize that,
like these Haitians don't even think anything remotely like you.
You can't. They're so dumb you can't even fathom how
they think. So they're going and they're going to do
it exactly what Pete said, despite you maybe coming up
with all sorts of rationalizations why they wouldn't do that.
They just don't think like you at all. I mean,
the issue with traffic quote unquote accidents is I mean
the type of accidents you've seen. It's like, how do
these people even manage to cause this level of destruction
on this part of the road. I mean, I've seen
videos on YouTube where I mean you can literally teach
monkeys to drive like better than these people. I mean,
just to reinforce the point, I mean average IQ sixty three,
it's like you literally can't fathom this level of thinking.
It's like beyond it's too dumb for you to comprehend
as an average intelligence person or higher. You literally cannot
comprehend how their brains work. They're like an alien force
that you can't understand, and that makes them even more dangerous.
Speaker 3: It's twenty points below the minimum required IQ score from
basic military training essentially.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the white pill in all of this is that
they are so dumb that in the when white people
eventually do organize to take back their territory, it's it's
going to be a blood bath. The way that every
single time a white unit engages a low IQ black
unit in Africa or somewhere around the world, it's.
Speaker 4: White man's returning to Africa, and this time we're not
coming to take you on extended vacation.
Speaker 2: For coming for that dirt boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can make you can make all the monkey
jokes you want. If there was if there were orangutans,
like in public, like in downtown the town I live in,
I would feel more safe than if it was a
group of these people. And and orangusangs are about ten
times stronger than I am. Well, their average orangutan is
about ten times stronger than I am.
Speaker 2: Well, if for no other reason than if you had
to defend yourself against them, you wouldn't have the entire
weight of the government coming down to crush you and
your family for daring to uh to try to preserve
your life.
Speaker 1: Right, But you can also throw them a banana.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, yeah, like the orangutans at a level where
it's it's low enough where you can sort of fully comprehend, uh,
like all of its base animal interests.
Speaker 4: But these Haitians are intelligent enough to be even more
dangerous than orangutans because they're capable of more complex behaviors
that you can entirely predict, you know, they're not just
the sort of input output machine like some sort of
a primate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's this. Uh, this, this just ties in
when we're talking about how the Democratic Party is essentially
just one giant, colorless of racially aggrieved foreigners trying to
steal what they can and destroy what they can't. A
Haitian nonprofit has filed criminal charges against Donald Trump and
JD Vance. Can we get that? Do you have that
article pulled up?
Speaker 1: Doug?
Speaker 2: Okay, so I guess we're we're lashing Doug a little bit,
a little bit more tonight.
Speaker 1: But Doug must really be overworked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we allow him three hours of sleep at night.
Maybe that's too much. I don't anyway. So to drive
this point home, the law firm representing them is named
Chandra h A N d r A. So anybody who
knows that surname knows their Indians, so it's an it's
an alliance between the Indians and the Haitians to bring
charges against a presidential candidate for or saying mean things
about them.
Speaker 1: So the street shitters and the people eaters got together.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. They have a lot of culture to exchange.
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is going to end up in people
eating shit.
Speaker 1: Then street shitting, street shitting cannibal holocaust.
Speaker 2: Amazing, Oh man, I mean, the jokes right themselves with this.
I mean, the basic rundown is that they brought a
bunch of bullshit charges disrupting public service, making false alarms,
committing to telecommunications harassment, committing aggravated menacing in violation of the.
Speaker 3: Law telecommunications harassment. What a nonsense charge.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, committing aggravated menacing and violating the prohibition against complicity,
which they're they're claiming that because the things that they
are saying were denied by the man who is making
money off of those people being in Springfield, Ohio, that
they're that this proves their lives. So uh, just uh,
just icing on the cake for this this story here.
And I think I don't think there's anything we have
to say about about this.
Speaker 1: I think the white I think the one thing that
should be said is the white activists who are standing
behind them. They get sense A eight when they when
these people do without a doubt, I mean, I'm done
with them. I'm done with them. All citizenship revoked. Everyone
has to reapply. I'm everyone. I mean, fuck, it's not
even playing anymore. All right, now, I want to read
some super chats before you move on to the last topic.
Probably should do it.
Speaker 2: I need my my daily dose of salutes.
Speaker 1: All right. I just wanted to say, if somebody can
pull up entropy, the one on entropy I refreshed mine
and it's not there anymore. Can someone read the one
that we had on entropy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me pull up entropy?
Speaker 1: All right, I'll read the first one from YouTube. Oustin
most Prime for two bucks says shekels for the boys.
Thank you, mister Prime Blaro okay, Bilero three ninety nine. Uh,
Carvel actually lost the flame and the Chubby are in
charge of the DNC, not him. He sold out his
brethren and now he's being replaced. Well, I mean I
assume that we just know that and we're just enjoying,
you know, seeing these people freak out and probably have
their medication.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean all the better. This just means that
they're they're lossing out the sane ones in favor of
the lunatics. And while they have the leavers of power
for now, crazy people have a tendency to self destruct.
So it's uh, it's good for us.
Speaker 1: Luth empla are big horn sound womp womp, thank you, sir.
Two books. Mister clockwork five bucks says this super chat
is for our guy, James Carville. Salute to you, Rageon
Cajun seasider always here. Thank you, sir, big salute, ten
dollars super chat, thank you.
Speaker 4: Is Carville from a Lafayette.
Speaker 1: I don't know where he's from.
Speaker 4: Ragel is the University of Lafayette, so motto I think.
Speaker 1: Oh, well, he's always been known as a Ragion Cajun,
so possibly Palatte and ywise love this guy. Remember, guys,
DEI is not a case where unqualified people are mistakenly
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These are industries that are on the shortlist for extinction.
Amen Enrico Palazzo twenty dollars super chat baron Sammy, Baron Sammy,
the nationalism is here to stay. Another super chat from
Enrico five bucks, the Chinese buffets are lobbying hard against
the Haitian migrants Balero three ninety three five dollars. Superchat
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Speaker 2: Get into it.
Speaker 1: The Old Glory Club at gmail dot com. En Rico.
Another superchat says, America needs our own Papa doc oh
Man Palaininyz for another twenty Thank you so much. Sir.
Vance and Trump have a kiddy steering wheel in their hands,
and they are telling you they are going to drive
the car. The lever in Vance's hand is not connected
to anything that can stop migrant flow.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean so, strictly speaking, that's not true. The
head of the executive is able to do all of this.
If they get those levers of power, they can do
these things. The only question is whether or not they
have the will. And I get what you're saying here, Paladin.
You don't think that they do. You think they're just
playing this up for the base. I mean entirely possible.
I try to be an optimist, but well, I just
hope that the people that are going to be coming
in through the door that Trump and Vance open will
be able to whisper in their ear to get them
to do the right thing.
Speaker 1: Amen, mister clock worked two dollars, read ernest youngers the
forest passage, then vote.
Speaker 2: I mean anything by younger.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, let's read it, Enrico Palazzo with another five?
Could Harambi drink from the glass with that spilling? We're
talking about our Haitian politician.
Speaker 3: I bet Mirambe could actually if he were still alive. Rip.
Speaker 1: Let's give some applause for hommy.
Speaker 2: Alright, Oh that's what it was. He was pouring one
out for his homie, Harambe.
Speaker 1: I get it, oh Man down Browning twenty dollars Australian.
It's probably going to be rupees pretty soon. Unfortunately, epic fail.
Kind of hippo over here? Does anybody have the entropy one?
Speaker 2: We got one from Mellon. Ten dollars. You got that one, Doug,
all right, I'll just read it out. Ten dollars from Mellon.
There we go. Pete for Emperor of the OGC long
Live the King.
Speaker 1: No, no red Hawk is red Hawk is my president?
Speaker 3: No palace cues Nope. And then we got the only
other entropy super chat there, Pete is one from Garfellow
Roosevelt who just sends a salute for five dollars.
Speaker 1: I think the one I was talking about was Fritz
Imperial for three dollars. When we win, we'll have a
new great white fleet of nuclear power dreadnoughts armed with railguns.
Speaker 2: That's so fucking cool.
Speaker 3: We need ships too.
Speaker 1: I think he's Yeah, Fritz Imperial with another one for
five evening. Gents, you've spoken about your where to go?
Where to go? I lost it there it is. You've
spoken about your tobacco preferences. But do you have a
drink of choice. I've been sober for I've been sober
for a little while now, so you know I will
say that when I do partake. You know, I really
like some weller yeah green label.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna autism out on this. I was not here
last week when the tobacco discussion happened, which was I
was very disappointed. I'm gonna answer a question you didn't ask.
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Speaker 1: Mister Charlot Magne.
Speaker 4: I mean there's different things you could name. I'll just
suggest to people one of my favorites that you can
find at some establishments. It's rather difficult to make, so
you probably wouldn't make this yourself, But an espresso martini
is quite good.
Speaker 3: And mister man, I've always been a gin and tonic man.
Speaker 1: M hm any specific gin, Uh.
Speaker 3: No, it's all good for the most part. I mean,
I'll do bombay, I'll do I'll bit do tank or
a doesn't matter really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the I got into I started trying different gins
a couple of years ago, and you can start really
going down a rabbit hole with them. But if anybody
wants to try one for the first time, I would
recommend Uncle Vows botanical gin it'll shock you first, drink
it straight and just taste how many how you're gonna
taste something citrus at first, and you're gonna get You're
gonna get hit with all sorts of different flavors. So yeah,
you want to try gin Uncle Vow's botanical, not very
not overly expensive. But most people when they go with gin,
they go with something like really cheap and which is
just basically pine needles. And there's there's better choices out there.
How do you spell that pete uncle valves uncle and
then this v a l apostrophe.
Speaker 2: S awesome. I've never seen that before, but I'll have
to keep an eye out, you will.
Speaker 1: My wife took it for the first time. She's like, wow,
what the flavor is? Just it just it changes on
you within a couple seconds. You're just like you're tasting
three or four different things. That's awesome.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of bad gins out there. I mean,
for me, beefeed Er is the goat, but I also
like gen and tonics, so that's.
Speaker 1: Why mm hmm, Well, I guess do we hit U?
Do we thank Garfellow Roosevelt over on entropy for five
bucks and just gave a salute. Salute to you, sir,
thank you?
Speaker 2: Did we the seasiders salute? I see that one in there?
Speaker 1: No, I I got it. Oh, I called it out. Yeah,
So I guess we are down to our last subject.
And the subject is that a note earlier this week
seemed to come out of nowhere. The story is that
the shooter, this Ryan Routh gentleman, sent a package to
somebody that had this note and a couple other things
in it, and this person didn't think to open it
until after the shooting. This all just sounds ridiculous, and
this note basically is like apologizing for not being able
to I don't even want to say it complete the
task he went there to do. And mentions that there
is one hundred and fifty thousand dollars bounty out a
certain person that I won't mention because for some reason,
calling people faggots and saying fat bitch to me is
probably less of a problem on YouTube than mentioning someone's
name and assassination. So, gentlemen, thoughts when you heard about
this letter.
Speaker 4: Well, this case is getting weirder and weirder. I've heard
that there was a second letter that was the for
the success case I haven't been able to confirm that though.
All I've seen is that he sent this letter off
in case he failed, which is really weird, Like, why
do you write a letter assuming that you failed, and
then what possible means upon failing? Would you think you
would have to offer a bounty like that for the job,
And why would you not just try again yourself, especially
if you had that kind of money. I mean, this
is just becoming kind of bizarre. One take on this
is that this is now intended to be an open
bounty for anyone to do it, and this guy is
One take on this guy is that he was simply
set up as a means to encourage further people to
make any attempts, and his attempt was never actually completely
serious in the first place. I mean, there are a
lot of different ways we could speculate on this, but
you would think that he would have written a letter
assuming he succeeded and then stating you know why he
did it, because you'd probably assume you'd be dead right
given what happened to the other guy. But if you failed,
especially given that he ran away and was taken alive.
I mean, he could just say all of this, right,
so this case is getting really weird. And then there's
the issue with his son apparently having some cheese pizza,
which is believable given the type of you know, family
that this must be. But you know, then again that's
also weird. It's like, well, you just like found that
in the midst of this investigation. I mean, it's totally possible.
If the FBI is looking into him, they're definitely going
to look into his family and then probably find that
sort of thing. But they're there. This case is just
getting very strange. I mean, this letter doesn't really make
a lot of sense, to be mainly the bounty part.
It's like, well, how could he how could he possibly
pay that? Like if I.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, And to just add more to this,
didn't Matt Gates make the claim this week that there
are five assassination teams out there looking for Trump. He did,
but I mean, I just I just I just said
what I what what I wasn't going to say. I
was going to say, but yeah, well why not?
Speaker 4: Well whatever, I mean, yeah, he he said that are there.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's probably got I mean, he definitely
has access to information. We don't have. There's no way
for us to actually confirm that. I mean it would
make sense. I mean it's is this some sort of
coded message.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a weird thing that if it is
true that you'd put it out there. No, you'd have
you'd be hiring, you know, private investigators to look into this.
You wouldn't advertise it. I mean, why would you advertise it?
Is the is the average person going you know, is
the average boomer going to be going out and looking
for assassination teams? It just seems weird.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean also, like this whole thing, it's weird
that we would get this this, that this letter would
be released by the authorities. There's always talking about how
they don't want to glorify uh, you know, shooters and
people who do this sort of thing to prevent copycats.
But the amplification of this message is pretty obviously like
like them, like the the the regime saying someone has
to try again, Please do this again, please try again.
Like it's just very like you were saying, Charlie, it's
very odd. I mean, it's not if you conceive of
the people who rule over us as being evil and
you know, doing what they can to prevent Trump's ascendency.
Then it actually makes a lot of sense. But there,
I mean it, Yeah, I've got nothing else.
Speaker 4: There's also the part where I mean, we didn't even
see Crooks's rifle for months after the attempt, and now
we see this letter almost immediately. His lawyer was actually
arguing in trying to get him released, that the letter
indicated an intent to fail and that it was more
of a blissity stunt than anything. I mean, it almost
seems like they're showing the public that there's an intent
to let you off easy if you succeed, basically. I
mean that that that's kind of the context I'm gathering,
is there, Like you know, it's like that video that
that that Freedom Tunes video that was gone around on
Twitter about how the media is basically doing everything possible
to encourage these things, and this sort of just leans
into that and people, you know, I don't I don't
read this guy as crazy. I mean, looking into his background,
there's this really nothing that marks him as like some
sort of skitzo or something. He's he's you know, kind
of wacky on the Ukraine stuff, but not really anymore
than a lot of people are now, Like I wrote
in that article, so I think to just like dismiss
him as some sort of nut is basically what the
media wants you to do. They want you to think
that this guy is some sort of weirdo and that
there aren't a lot of people like this around, or
that he's just crazy or something. Nothing I've seen indicate
that this guy is some sort of mental case, uh
like in the in the clinical sense. I mean, obviously
he's fucking crazy from you know, any normative perspective. But
I think you get what I mean. So this this
case is getting really weird. Yeah, I don't know anyone
have any other thoughts there?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean the thought I have is is that
we're not going to know anything about this, like any
truth behind this probably ever, because we never get to
find out. But I mean, even if they let Trump win,
because I mean, I think that's the way at this
point now, it's they either want Trump to win or
they don't, and that's the way he makes it into office.
I don't know why they would want him to. That's
that's for We can do a separate stream on my
show about that. But the yeah, unless he does what
he did with where he said, Oh, I'm gonna have
our k junior investigator, have a you know, a committee
into investigating a presidential assassinations. We're never going to know.
We're never I mean, it's just that it's that secret
unless somebody just goes in and tears apart this government.
You know, I have people telling me who are in
the know, you know, people who are no very very
wealthy people. They're saying, unless basically like two over two
million federal employees get fired and we and we don't
we need to deport about twenty to thirty million people
who are here, we're financially we're We're going to be
fucked for a long time. It's gonna be bad for
a really long time because that's just how much we
have piled up in when it comes to entitlements, when
it comes to salaries, when it comes to everything. So
if if they don't don't let if Trump doesn't win
and they don't go to work doing these things, we're
screwed either way, you know. And I mean that doesn't
have to be black pilling, but it does mean that
you need to be preparing for that for sure.
Speaker 4: There's another strange aspect here which is that the guy
was using like this boomerized sks and apparently the scope
was attached with electrical tape, which is not a thing
you can do and have it work. So it's like
it's like every aspect of this was designed to never
be a serious attempt practically, which just adds a lot
more questions, like what was the point of this?
Speaker 3: That's attention? Maybe?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and then there's also the question of
because of the last minute nature of the golf outing,
like how did this this kind of random weirdo who
seems to have been set up to fail, no know
where Trump was going to be unless it was he
was just stalking the guy, and it's like, oh, he's
played this golf course before. I'll just be here every
day and hill he shows up.
Speaker 4: I heard he was there for twelve hours too. I mean,
maybe that was the case, but no, I don't think
it was just for attention. I mean this, this guy
isn't just some attention horror. I mean he went to
Ukraine and he attempted to do the work there, right,
I mean, this this isn't just some like random attention horr.
To me, There's something deeper going on. Here. I don't
I can't sell us out what it is. But there's
there's too many things about this guy in this circumstance
that just aren't lining up. And I don't buy any
simple explanation like oh, he wanted attention or he's crazy
or something that there's something going on here that we
will simply not be told that we're.
Speaker 1: Missing one of my earbud, the earbud I was using
parallying out on the community. Hear me, Yeah, okay, cool,
all right, start with that. Yeah, so anybody that's have
anything else, I think we have one more, one more
super chat I see, But yeah, how much more can
we can we really say on this? It's you know,
we're we don't know anything, and everything looks when when
you look at all this, it just looks weird. It
just looks like this is a complete This is some
kind of op like has already been intimated that we
could that is to get people to come out of
the woodwork and come after Trump. I mean, I just
don't know how much there is left to say anymore.
Speaker 4: And yeah, that would be that this is an opt
to get more people to actually make serious attempts. I
mean the first attempt that actually happened was. It looks
like it was a fairly straightforward, serious attempt that exploited
intentional weaknesses within the Secret Service protection. This one is
to it just doesn't make any sense. The most sensible
interpretation is that this was designed on purpose to encourage
further attempts.
Speaker 1: Sorry about that, So, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Guess that's really it.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we've got a couple more super chats here,
Paladin ywise, another twenty bucks. Thank you, sir, we really
appreciate it, he says, to address the relative the relative
dead air. After my first comment, I was trying to
say that what if you heard that? Oh no, they're
letting immigrants maintain the payphones. That's my point. What's the
pay I'm still lost, Palette, text me? Does anybody is
anybody getting where he's coming from?
Speaker 2: Unfortunately no, I'm not quite sure what he's getting at
with that either.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't person.
Speaker 1: Either text me or call me. I'd love to hear
I'd love to hear you on this. And Christopher Keys
five bucks says the cat was startled when the chirp
went off. I think it knows what it means.
Speaker 2: Amazing that your cat has more awareness activation than an
entire subspecies of humans.
Speaker 3: Animals truly aren't noble creatures, aren't they?
Speaker 1: Anoder twenty? Do we have some gold? Collectively? He probably
needs some gold? Is Doug ready with that gold fish bit?
Speaker 3: This smell ait dexture?
Speaker 2: I love gold.
Speaker 1: We love you man, all right to the to the
vesica pisces.
Speaker 3: Guy.
Speaker 1: I truly hope they can do something. Also, it's just
that migrant flow is so above the US elected officials
pay grade.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I hope so too. We did meet at
the event, we spoke outside a couple of times. And
also you're the first person to ever get that this
is the vesic episcus. Uh. Everyone else just thinks it's
a what is it a van or not a vent diagram? Yeah,
van diagram right where it's whatever. Yeah, I know what
you're saying there. It's you think it might be too
big of a problem for them to actually be able
to deal with. Uh if they outsource it to the
private sector, like Pete was saying, with private contractors. Yeah,
I think they could actually end up doing it.
Speaker 4: It's only a problem for the current regime if if
the next election ushers in a new regime, as you
know Yarbord would put it, given the apparent backers behind Trump,
then it would be possible. So I guess you have
to think outside of what's actually possible. You have to
think outside the box of the current regime when postuating
on these things.
Speaker 1: When I think about like a potential Trump Dvance win,
I think less about Trump and Vance and more about
the people who, you know, the the people who are
talking about the real issues. Okay, so Trump and vants
are out there talking about the things that are obvious
when you listen to Marc Andreessen talk or people like
that in that section of the world. The ones that
have the money, the ones that have the power, the
ones that can actually make things move in the background,
they understand all of this too. They and I'm not
saying that they don't care about immigration. They know that
immigration needs to be reversed, because they're the ones who
are saying twenty to thirty million have to go and
two million, you know, two and a half million employees. Ah,
they're the ones talking about that. The hope is is
that they are there to push all this, They are
there to go forward with this, and that Trump has
the you know, Trump has the nuts to be able
to stand up and basically say this is a good idea,
this is what we're doing. Screw you.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, this election's way less about Trump than
twenty sixteen and twenty twenty were. It's and far more
about the people behind Trump that he is now a
front man for rather than sort of a sole actor.
Speaker 1: He's not.
Speaker 4: He's not a agent of chaos or Molotov cocktail that
you know, throw into DC as it was put. I
don't remember who coined that term. But it's a completely
different election than the previous two. And I think this
is something a lot of just kind of normy observers
don't understand, is they're thinking about Trump and this election
of the same terms as the previous two, but we're
actually in a completely different ballgame now where the stakes
the stakes are way higher actually than they were the
previous two times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the things you have to understand about
twenty sixteen Trump is he didn't there's an argument whether
he thought he was gonna win or wasn't whatever, whatever
that is. Actually you have to take into consideration the
fact that he was not prepared to put people into
place to achieve all the things that he said that
he wanted to do. Sure, there was a bunch of
executive orders he did on day one, YadA, YadA, YadA.
But what needs to be done now? Those people are
in place at least that's what from everything I'm hearing,
you know behind the scenes there, those people are in place,
and things will go into motion on day one. Now,
how much there, how much they're going to how much
law fair, how much, how much court how much the
courts are going to try to stand up to them
is it is a different question. But the bigger question
is are you going to allow the courts to stop
you to do anything? And you're just going to tell
them fuck you? Because that's basically what you're going to
have to do if they want to get anything accomplished,
they're going to have to be like, I'm the executive
Fuck you, I'm going to do everything that I'm that
the that is that the government empowers me to do,
that that the that the law empowers me to do,
that the Constitution empowers me to do. And I don't
care about your courts. No, I'm not showing up or
you send someone there to just you know, flip them
off and leave because that's the only way any of
this is going to get done. This isn't going to
get done with cooperation from the other side. There is
going to be no cooperation from the other side. The
other side is the regime. Much of your own side
is the regime. This is walking in with your own
team and basically gutting And if that doesn't happen, well,
and we're well, you know, we're looking at another twenty
sixteen to twenty twenty and at the end of that,
who the hell knows what happens.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The difference is in twenty sixteen, there was rhetoric
about doing that, but there was no actual evidence to
support that it could happen. But now it is the opposite,
where there are actually many evidentiary press to believe that
Trump Advance are actually capable of doing this and intend to.
That doesn't mean it's it's going to happen, but there's
a there's a reasonable case to actually believe that this
is a real possibility, and not like a marginal possibility,
but the more likely what even.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I noticed some I noticed the black
pills in the UH. I noticed a couple of black
pillars in the in the chat.
Speaker 4: We're putting you in the crystal. You're going in the crystal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just put them in the furnace. Actually, any who,
anybody else got anything to say? Jemen, get in the
get in the crystal. All right, let's go around the
horn and see if anybody has anything. And Charlie, what
do you got?
Speaker 4: Uh, I've still got a splinter. I haven't been able
to remigrate it out of my finger U. But yeah,
I did write an article for substack on our substack
earlier this week, actually on the subject of Ryan Ruth obliquely.
You should definitely subscribe to our substack. Check out the website,
the Old Glory Club dot com if you want to
see how to contact us. You know, all of the
platforms were on, and we're about to put up a
blurb on the homepage about our article submission guidelines, because
we do accept submissions to our substack, and if you've subscribed,
you've read many of them at this point, so look
for that as well.
Speaker 1: And that's it, mister mandrilh Well, let's see, I've got
a couple of articles in the works on my own substack,
and I have a new idea for one on the OGC,
so stay tuned for that.
Speaker 3: My most recent article on my own substack was going
into a strategic deep dive again doing the World War
two autism thing. So if that interests you, go check
it out.
Speaker 1: Do you have anything mister, not me?
Speaker 2: Not ye I do. I will be publishing an article
on the OGC sub stack on Monday that deals with
the greatest form of propaganda the regime has at its disposal.
And besides that, a great friend of ours is putting
ours being the OGC is putting on an event in
January in California. It has an all star lineup. It's
going to be focusing around the art produced on our
side of things. If you are interested in this sort
of thing, check out Resolutions twenty twenty five dot com.
That's Resolutions the word two zero two five, A bunch
of us will be there and well it will be
worth your time. And we did get one more superchat.
Speaker 1: Yep oh, we have one more super chat. All right,
let me see what we got here. Boom palu oh slasher.
Five dollars Canadian white pill suppositories will be forcibly administered
under Project twenty twenty five. I have heard that no
black all right, I'm not gonna say that. No black pilling,
all right. I released an episode today on a subject
that people love to hear. Have been asking me to
do an episode on forever and I finally got someone
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episode today on the history of Rhodiesha. So it's a
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it out and remember Rhodesia. Remember, remember what was and
what can be in the future. All right, For that,
for all my friends here at Pony Express Radio, we're
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to attempt to resurrect our president from the dead and
see if he can come back and do this job.
That God, I probably just screwed up so much tonight.
God bless y'all. Take care. Bye,