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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, and welcome to another edition of The Cajun

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<v Speaker 1>Knight Live.

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<v Speaker 2>I am your host, The Cajun Night, Jacob Mook.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we started shooting, we actually had a good little

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<v Speaker 2>None of them good for.

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<v Speaker 1>The record, now, I like, I don't think anybody actually

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<v Speaker 1>night at nine pm Central. Without further ado, though, I

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<v Speaker 1>am gonna go ahead and share the screen and we

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna get started with the conversation for the evening.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought this was interesting. This is from Science Daily.

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<v Speaker 1>We have written records that show that human existence on

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<v Speaker 1>this planet has been going on since at least the

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<v Speaker 1>twelve thousand BC conversation, Right and then I heard recently

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<v Speaker 1>somebody said they found some.

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<v Speaker 2>Artifact that would say is actually closer to like twenty thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>But the whole conversation about when did humans develop a

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<v Speaker 1>written language, a record of some type, and we can

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<v Speaker 1>only work off of the scant sources that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>Well come to find out forty thousand year old signs

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<v Speaker 1>show that humans were recording information long before writing. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is a picture the adorant figurine from I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to pronounce that word because I don't think half

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<v Speaker 1>of those letters exist. But it's a cave approximately thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight thousand years old. It consists of a small ivory

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<v Speaker 1>plate bearing anthropomorphic figures and multiple sequences of notches and dots.

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<v Speaker 1>The application of these marks suggests notational system, most notably

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<v Speaker 1>in the rows of dots on the back of the plate.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is from I believe this would be Germany.

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<v Speaker 2>I see Berg.

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<v Speaker 3>So just it says geissen Cluster in Ruptemberg, which is

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<v Speaker 3>southwest Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that word geist. So the B with the weird thing,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's an S.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an S. Yeah, Okay, this makes it so much

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<v Speaker 2>more sense. So geisen Closerry.

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<v Speaker 3>Closter Geissen cluster left.

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<v Speaker 1>So they pronounced that last letter. It's not like French

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<v Speaker 1>that's let at the end there.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye got you? Well, Okay, So in Germany they have

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<v Speaker 2>discovered a artifact that would indicate possibly human written language

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<v Speaker 2>that dates back, give or take forty thousand years, so.

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<v Speaker 1>More than forty thousand years ago Ice age humans are

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<v Speaker 1>carving repeated patterns of dots, lines, and crosses into tools

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<v Speaker 1>and small ivory figurines. A new computational study of more

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<v Speaker 1>than three thousand of these Paleolithic signs reveal they were

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<v Speaker 1>not random decorations, but structured sequences with measurable complexity. Surprisingly,

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<v Speaker 1>their information density rivals that of proto Cuneiform, the earliest

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<v Speaker 1>no writing system that emerged around three thousand BCE. So

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<v Speaker 1>again we've understood for a long time. I remember, growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>we learned that Egyptian hieroglyphs were arguably the oldest written language. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>then Cuneiform got really discovered and really talked about. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just kind of in the peer reviewed journal

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<v Speaker 1>debate going on. It's understood that Cuneiform is specifically Cuneiform

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<v Speaker 1>B predates Egyptian hieroglyphs. So now we have this system

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<v Speaker 1>of dashes, dots and crosses that predates that by oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a few tens of thousands of years. That's

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<v Speaker 1>fucking wild to me, so let's talk about it here.

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<v Speaker 1>So more than forty thousand years ago, early humans are

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<v Speaker 1>already engraving sybyls onto tools, figurines, and other objects. A

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<v Speaker 1>new study by linguist Kristin Binns of Sorrowland probably university

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<v Speaker 1>archaeologist EWA dutkinschwicks Yep of the Museum of Prehistory and

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<v Speaker 1>Early History in Berlin suggests these sequences of signs were

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<v Speaker 1>not random decorations. Instead, they dip. They display levels of

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<v Speaker 1>complexity and information density similar to proto Cuneiform, the early

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<v Speaker 1>snow writing system, like we talked about around three thousand BC,

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<v Speaker 1>tens of thousands of years later. Using computational techniques, the

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<v Speaker 1>researchers analyzed more than three thousand signs carved into two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty Paleolithic artifacts to better understand how writing.

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<v Speaker 2>May have evolved.

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<v Speaker 1>The results, which were published in pns pnas excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>were clear, and even the team did not expect such

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<v Speaker 1>a close comparison to writing systems. So the Paleolithic symbols

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<v Speaker 1>in Swabia Jura Swabian, Swabian Duro okay, which if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not mistaken, that would also be a thing for Germany,

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<v Speaker 1>like Swabiland. I know they named a section of Antarctica

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<v Speaker 2>But Swabian Swabian.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming it's like an ancient tribe that might have

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's also in southwest Germany. They call it Schwabin,

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<v Speaker 3>just like Charles Schwab. My bad English call it Swabia

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<v Speaker 3>for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm because I speak English. I don't sink my teeth

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<v Speaker 1>into those w's. But for show, for show, the Swabian

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. All right, let's get damn. Artifacts dating from

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four thousand to forty five thousand years ago feature

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<v Speaker 1>recurring patterns of lines, dots, notches, and crosses. Many were

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<v Speaker 1>found in caves in Swabian Jura region of the southwestern Germany.

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<v Speaker 2>In vol vogel Herd Cave Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>In Loan Valley, for example, archaeologists uncovered a small mammoth

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<v Speaker 1>figurine carved from mammoth ivory. Its surface is marked with

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<v Speaker 1>rows of crosses and dots. Other objects from the same

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<v Speaker 1>region also contain similar engravings. The Adorant a mammoth ivory

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<v Speaker 1>plate discovered in Guysen closely Yup cave in the Ach Valley.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm supposed to throw flemel on

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<v Speaker 1>that one or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Ach Valley shows a lion human hybrid figurine and is

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<v Speaker 1>covered with rows of dots and notches. Another well known sculpture,

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<v Speaker 1>the lion human from holsenstein Stadle Cave in Lone Valley,

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<v Speaker 1>includes every evenly spaced notches along one arm. Researchers now

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<v Speaker 1>conclude these markings were purposeful Stone Age people liked, using

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<v Speaker 1>them to communicate or store information. Is a direct quote

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<v Speaker 1>here from Professor Christian bins Our. Research is helping us

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<v Speaker 1>uncover the unique statistical properties or statistical fingerprints of these

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<v Speaker 1>signed systems, which are an early pre predecessor to writing.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, and you know this this in my personal opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that there's gonna be certain people of certain

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<v Speaker 1>religious backgrounds, that even of my own religious background, that

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna say that this, uh, this is disproven because

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<v Speaker 1>radiocarbon dating is so flawed and all of these things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only flawed if you don't know the whereabouts of

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<v Speaker 1>the artifact from point A to point B. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>finding them in caves like that cave didn't have some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a fire inside of it that would throw

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<v Speaker 1>off the carbon. It didn't have a volcano go off

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<v Speaker 1>inside the cave. You could make the argument for humidity

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<v Speaker 1>tearing things apart, but like ivories, not wood, that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>that's not gonna disintegrate with a little bit of some

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<v Speaker 1>heat and a little bit of cold and a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of some water. So again, I do believe that

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<v Speaker 1>our Earth is a lot older than what a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people of my own religious background say, the young

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<v Speaker 1>Earth creationists out there. That's never really made sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the Earth is only six thousand years old? Like brother,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, that's that makes no no.

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<v Speaker 2>Known sense to me whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have discovered more things as far as go

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<v Speaker 1>backle Tepe dogger Land, and now these artifacts that are

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<v Speaker 1>putting us at least and when we're saying like Stone

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<v Speaker 1>age humans, I don't believe these are Neanderthals that we're carving.

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<v Speaker 2>This maybe fucking maybe, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't personally believe that. I believe this was an earlier

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<v Speaker 1>form of human being. And I also think the term

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<v Speaker 1>cave people might be a bit misleading. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they probably had the abilities to build shelters, right, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it was something more akin to a Native American

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<v Speaker 1>tpe situation or a long house or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I have a heart again.

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<v Speaker 1>I've watched people that do flint napping and they'll make

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<v Speaker 1>stone axe heads, they'll make stone tools, and you'll watch

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<v Speaker 1>them chop down trees with stone age materials that they made,

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<v Speaker 1>start to finish from that time period.

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<v Speaker 2>Not Dusty Rhodes, what's his name. There's a dude named

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<v Speaker 2>Dusty maybe Dusty Daniels, I forget.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a marine vet and he has a YouTube channel

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<v Speaker 1>where all he does is make stone age tools and

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<v Speaker 1>show how to use them, how to upkeep them, all

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<v Speaker 1>these things. I got a real hard time believing that

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<v Speaker 1>the people, even if we're talking stone age not cave people.

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<v Speaker 1>Stone age people didn't have the ability to write down

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<v Speaker 1>some type of numbering system, even if it was tatly

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<v Speaker 1>marks or dots and dashes.

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<v Speaker 2>So this doesn't take.

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<v Speaker 1>Away at all from my own personal religious beliefs. But

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people this this like makes them question things.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, before we continue here, Sam, your hand was

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<v Speaker 1>raised first.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>If you look at the quote Magnan and and everything,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty pretty sure to the one it's from the

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<v Speaker 4>upper pay of ethic and everything.

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<v Speaker 5>They they're about the same as smart as they have

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<v Speaker 5>the exact same intelligence. It's hypothesize that they have the

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<v Speaker 5>same intelligence as we do. It's just they didn't know

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<v Speaker 5>as much. And and no matter what, like civil civilization,

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<v Speaker 5>they got bones from the Hobbit people that look like

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<v Speaker 5>they've even they were broken and mended, which shows civilization.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's well over four hundred thousand years ago. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh dude, I forget wound about the Hobbit people. I've

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<v Speaker 2>heard of them. I can't verify Africa.

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<v Speaker 6>No, look, you can look it up.

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<v Speaker 5>It's down in Africot. They called it the Hobbit. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a little I think it's ZOOI z u r I.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's an oldest fuck skeleton. Well it's a woman.

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<v Speaker 6>They think.

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<v Speaker 5>They think it's I don't remember the scientific name, but

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<v Speaker 5>they called it the hobbit, like the hobbit like wen't.

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<v Speaker 2>Not like the Australia pithecus bones or something along those lines.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought this was in Africa.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but we're talking about like not too terribly

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<v Speaker 1>far removed from Pangaea or something.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends on which school I thought you get into.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I remember hearing about it. I haven't done

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<v Speaker 2>the research into it yet, but we can. We absolutely can.

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<v Speaker 1>But and to your point also, as far as what

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to do stone age and all these things,

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<v Speaker 1>I forget.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say it was in the Mayan or.

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<v Speaker 1>The Aztec they found a skeleton that showed copper that

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<v Speaker 1>was used as.

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<v Speaker 2>A bone mending.

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<v Speaker 1>They had like a wrap of copper around a femur

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<v Speaker 1>bone and the bone had actually healed itself, and they

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<v Speaker 1>way before anybody had ever thought about doing that.

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<v Speaker 5>In the West, right, they were cutting the legs open

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<v Speaker 5>and landing the uh as the dope as fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Look here so, uh, this is surgery from this time period,

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<v Speaker 1>Copper was anti microbial and anti viral properties. The plate

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<v Speaker 1>dates from twelve sixty to fifteen twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>It was found in Sweden.

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<v Speaker 1>on that one. Fine, But my point is, though, like

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<v Speaker 2>That we don't even know today. Most people don't know

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<v Speaker 6>Is that before Jesus?

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<v Speaker 2>So that was AD.

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<v Speaker 2>to you for having the balls, but also fuck that well,

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<v Speaker 5>He supposed to pretty much snatch it out and give

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<v Speaker 1>I personally I would, just because at that point it

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<v Speaker 2>Clearly I took a horn to the head.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, the French king, I want to I can't remember

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<v Speaker 6>Uh no, Sonamas. He predicted his death. He got hit.

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<v Speaker 5>The lance splintered and it went through his eye and

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<v Speaker 5>he lives like another three day is an agonizing pain

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<v Speaker 5>and all because he's going Noradas.

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<v Speaker 6>If I'm not mistaken, Yeah, because he said, do not

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<v Speaker 5>He told him, hey, don't do this, but in a

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<v Speaker 2>So Pops, do you wow? Shit, Royce? What you got

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<v Speaker 7>So? The only thing that I was gonna say, as

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<v Speaker 7>far as the Old Earth versus New Earth, if you

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<v Speaker 7>just look at the Biblical account, it says the earth

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<v Speaker 7>was foremostly void. So clearly the earth had been around

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<v Speaker 7>for a long period of time, who knows how long

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<v Speaker 7>before creation. And then obviously there are there are various

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<v Speaker 7>opinions as far as where we get our calendar from

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<v Speaker 7>our and how we account for how old let's say,

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<v Speaker 7>human man, evil humans that we know and are. But

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<v Speaker 7>according to some Jewish traditions, this was not the first

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<v Speaker 7>iteration of humanity. When the Torres said the earth was

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<v Speaker 7>foremost and void. Part of it was that there were

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<v Speaker 7>other creations before us, so that could also take it

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<v Speaker 7>into accounts these people.

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually never heard that be brought up in Jewish literature. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>so Rabbi Sanger, who you've sent me videos of as

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, with his debates, Yeah, he believes

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<v Speaker 1>that the earth is only six thousand years.

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<v Speaker 8>Old, and he is humanity interest these another human like

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<v Speaker 8>most Jews believe that that the that we as humans

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<v Speaker 8>or since the birth.

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<v Speaker 7>Of Adam has been less than six thousand years.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, which.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean even still, that's a big that's a big

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<v Speaker 1>maybe because I mean, granted there was Day six people,

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<v Speaker 1>there was other human beings on Earth before Adam was created.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like a lot of specifically Christians, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them don't know that. It's it's like within

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<v Speaker 1>the first few chapters of the entire book and they

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<v Speaker 1>just skip right over that to say that Adam was

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<v Speaker 7>No, Adam, Adam, Adam was what Adam was the first human?

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<v Speaker 7>But let me ask you a question.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no believe that God made humans on Day six.

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<v Speaker 1>He made Adam the week.

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<v Speaker 2>After, no reread it.

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<v Speaker 7>So hold on, he made Adam on Friday arab shabas

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<v Speaker 7>and that so no, there was no like Adam was

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<v Speaker 7>the first one.

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<v Speaker 2>No, brother, hold on.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Genesis one has the day six and then

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<v Speaker 3>it ends with Jase seven and then chapter two says

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<v Speaker 3>I've been doing six for just a second, and talk

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<v Speaker 3>about Adam. I think that's how it goes, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, wait, we could we could look this up.

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<v Speaker 2>As a matter of.

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<v Speaker 3>Chapter one has the day one through seven, and then

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<v Speaker 3>chapter two begins with all right, let's go back to

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<v Speaker 3>day six for a secon and basically.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm not mistaken, he chose he made Adam specifically

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<v Speaker 1>to live and reside within the Garden of Eden, but

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<v Speaker 1>he made humans to walk the earth and inhabit the earth,

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<v Speaker 1>which is also mentioned whenever Adam and Eve were kicked

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<v Speaker 1>out of the garden and had to live amongst other humans.

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<v Speaker 1>These other humans came from somewhere. They weren't of the

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<v Speaker 1>descendants of Adam and Eve. The misnumber that I've always

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<v Speaker 1>heard is that we are right right, We are all

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<v Speaker 1>descendants of Adam and Eve because they are the predecessors

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<v Speaker 1>to Noah. And there's no humans beyond Noah and who

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<v Speaker 1>was on that boat so to say that we're all

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<v Speaker 2>But to say that he was the first man no

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<v Speaker 2>old on.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me let me double check on this one here,

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<v Speaker 1>Day six, God created at animals and people.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't specifically say Adam on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>God created Adam from the dusty earth bre life into him.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, he was given the responsibility to care for

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<v Speaker 1>the garden. But God did not mean for Adam to

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<v Speaker 1>do alone. God brought about the animals before him all

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<v Speaker 1>these things. Uh, let's see Adam.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on.

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<v Speaker 1>God complete his creation by making humans in his own image.

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<v Speaker 1>He blessed and gave them a mandate to multiply and

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<v Speaker 1>fill the earth. That was Genesis one relates the story

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<v Speaker 1>of creation. Genesis two gives more details, specifically about how

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<v Speaker 1>Adam and.

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<v Speaker 2>Eve related to the rest of creation.

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<v Speaker 1>So, if we're going off of strictly Genesis and that's Torah,

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<v Speaker 1>Koran and Bible, Adam wasn't the first human being, although

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay to assume this because it's six and one

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<v Speaker 1>hand a half dozen in the other because all human

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<v Speaker 1>stem from him. So fair enough, if this makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, Sam.

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<v Speaker 5>No not to mention when their son Cain kills the

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<v Speaker 5>other son Able and he gets ex out, he goes

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<v Speaker 5>rest of e Dom and he ends up building a

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<v Speaker 5>city for his son Enoch. So if it's just human,

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<v Speaker 5>his wife at that point would more than likely be

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<v Speaker 5>a sin. If we're going off with that, tony, Adam

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<v Speaker 5>and Eve, why is he building a city. That would

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<v Speaker 5>mean there'd be more fucking people, right exactly. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 5>blessings to you lord, but he had more people down here.

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<v Speaker 2>Royce your your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 7>I am currently have a right purposes. I am looking

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<v Speaker 7>things up against I've heard that there were people that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>so whenever the tour mentions things, it mentions things in

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<v Speaker 7>order to teach us things. It doesn't. It's not exactly

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<v Speaker 7>a historical doctor, so.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some people that take it as literal historical document.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, for the record, I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>Genesis was like, there's stories within it that we can

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<v Speaker 1>apply as accurate fact, but it's not one details of

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with this.

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<v Speaker 6>I do not say deniable quite literally, thank you, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Like for to say day six, for instance, or even

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<v Speaker 1>that God created the world in twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Could he for sure he could do whatever the hell

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<v Speaker 2>he wants he's got do?

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that saying a day when later on they

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<v Speaker 1>say that, you know, a minute is but a day,

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<v Speaker 1>and a day is but an hour. To God like,

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<v Speaker 1>time is not something that God really like, he recognized it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't make sense to him, right, It's not

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<v Speaker 1>something that he applies to his self. So to a

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<v Speaker 1>day to God, a twenty four hour span to God

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<v Speaker 1>might be two hundred and fifty thousand years to us, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. There's no definite one way or another.

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<v Speaker 1>There are those who believe that when they say a day,

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<v Speaker 1>he means a day, and there's nothing wrong with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I am of the belief that it might possibly imply

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<v Speaker 1>a different time span. But he gave it to us

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that we'd be able to at least

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<v Speaker 1>wrap our minds around.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, Royce, I'm sorry you were saying something.

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<v Speaker 7>No, so I'm resident right now. I'm just like, as

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<v Speaker 7>far as things that are literal and up for interpretation,

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<v Speaker 7>God doesn't tell us how we created the world. I

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<v Speaker 7>mean exactly, like as far as like molecules and things.

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<v Speaker 9>Right, But so anyway, it.

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<v Speaker 7>Not every person that was ever alive was mentioned in

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<v Speaker 7>the Torah, like there are specific reasons why there are

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<v Speaker 7>things that are mentioned, and if it's not important in

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<v Speaker 7>essence to the narrative. So also in art so the

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<v Speaker 7>very beginning of Genesis two, verse four, So the preceding

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<v Speaker 7>account is the chronicle of how everything in heaven and

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<v Speaker 7>Earth began to function in its proper time, everything having

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<v Speaker 7>been created on the.

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<v Speaker 10>Day that God may have in the earth, i e.

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<v Speaker 10>On the first day. So this is where some stages

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<v Speaker 10>come into plane. So Rashi says, So when it says

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<v Speaker 10>that these or this.

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<v Speaker 7>Or I need the aforementioned, it is a chronicle of

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<v Speaker 7>heaven earth. Everything haven't been created on the day of

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<v Speaker 7>God Mass. It just teaches you that they were all

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<v Speaker 7>created on the first day when God said, when God

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<v Speaker 7>made heaven earth. Another explanation of the word key bar

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<v Speaker 7>am is to write and is two words, meaning he

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<v Speaker 7>created them with the letter hey, as as it says

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<v Speaker 7>in the verses for for your trust is in God

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<v Speaker 7>the Rock. So they're very very various opinions. But I

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<v Speaker 7>would like to do more research on this, please and

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<v Speaker 7>then if you if you could maybe send me versus

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<v Speaker 7>that way I can look into it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same versus as far as the Old the

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<v Speaker 1>Torah anyway, the first five books, if I'm not mistaken,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a pretty much one to one translation from Hebrew

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<v Speaker 1>to English that the Quran used, that the Jews use it,

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<v Speaker 1>the Christians use it. It's all pretty up and up.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll send you some stuff. But that's that's the

431
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<v Speaker 1>thing I've for most of my life. I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>Adam was the first person. As an adult, I reread

433
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<v Speaker 1>it and I was like, oh, so God made human

434
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<v Speaker 1>beings on day six, got you all the things. Next chapter,

435
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<v Speaker 1>he talks about Adam specifically living within the garden because

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<v Speaker 1>that was his purpose. Human beings were not supposed to

437
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<v Speaker 1>live within the garden. Adam and Eve were supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>live within the garden, like he made them specifically separately,

439
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<v Speaker 1>like with with Really.

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<v Speaker 7>Apparently he was he was not created in the garden

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<v Speaker 7>of he says, because God persuaded Adam to enter the

442
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<v Speaker 7>garden and he placed him in the garden to cultivate it. Okay,

443
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<v Speaker 7>he wasn't just.

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<v Speaker 1>He was created for that purpose though, Like he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be out and about in the world with

446
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<v Speaker 1>the other humans doing the things, building the cities, doing

447
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<v Speaker 1>war all that.

448
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<v Speaker 2>Adam and Eve.

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<v Speaker 1>Were specifically supposed to be his servants in the garden.

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<v Speaker 1>That was their divine purpose, if you will. At least

451
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<v Speaker 1>that's how I understand it. But yeah, I'll send you

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff on that for sure, Tony way in please.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, going back to what I said. I just reread

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<v Speaker 3>Genesis chapter one and two, and it kind of confirms

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<v Speaker 3>what I was saying earlier. Genesis one goes through the

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<v Speaker 3>seven days, Genesis two goes, okay, all that happened, Now,

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<v Speaker 3>let's rewind to before the shrubs were created and before

458
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<v Speaker 3>man was created, and then it kind of inserts the

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<v Speaker 3>Garden of Eden and some additional stuff in there. I

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<v Speaker 3>think what happened is there were multiple sources to the

461
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<v Speaker 3>Old Testament and to what I'd like to call proto Judaism.

462
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<v Speaker 3>There was a low hissted author, there was a Yahwist author,

463
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<v Speaker 3>there was a priestly author, and these were probably cobbled

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<v Speaker 3>together at different times, and they said, Okay, you know

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<v Speaker 3>these myths are kind of similar. How can we ask

466
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<v Speaker 3>them together and make them compatible. I think that's what

467
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<v Speaker 3>happened here.

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<v Speaker 1>You said a low hist Can you give me a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a background on that, because all I'm

470
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<v Speaker 1>hearing is aloha, and I know that's not where.

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<v Speaker 7>They're talking about. Uh. The you wor for.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yahweh is the most common name for God in

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<v Speaker 3>the Old Testament. But there's l there's el Shadai, there's Elohim,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think there's several others, and I just can't

475
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<v Speaker 3>remember what they are, and they come together. They're from

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<v Speaker 3>different proto Judaic traditions in my opinion and in the

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<v Speaker 3>opinion of a few other people, and that they kind

478
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<v Speaker 3>of fused together and they had to be made compatible.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's where Genesis wanted to come from, and how

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<v Speaker 3>they're not completely compatible, but they're kind of close enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Which it also makes sense if Moses is the one

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<v Speaker 1>that wrote it, right, and we're talking.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think that, Yeah, but all of them. But yeah,

484
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<v Speaker 7>but Moses didn't write it as far as like so

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<v Speaker 7>as opposed to other books in the Bible where it

486
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<v Speaker 7>might have been inspired, and that was their own words,

487
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<v Speaker 7>although they were holy in themselves. We basically believe that Moses,

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<v Speaker 7>for the first four books of the Torah, didn't have

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<v Speaker 7>a say in it. He was essentially the the quill.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, when I say wrote, I do mean like I

492
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<v Speaker 1>actually put pen to paper on that. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>believe divinely inspired word one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, there's a difference though. There's a difference between divinely

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<v Speaker 7>inspired and divine inspire. So if you have a divine inspiration,

496
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<v Speaker 7>you're adding your own two cents in there?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, as opposed what are you talking about?

498
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<v Speaker 7>So like if, okay, my understanding or of divine inspiration

499
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<v Speaker 7>is that I, well, I was inspired to I wasn't

500
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<v Speaker 7>inspired to write this as opposed to something being divine

501
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<v Speaker 7>and it being written down as God's word period.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So the way that I take divinely inspired is as

504
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<v Speaker 1>if God was speaking through this person and said this

505
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<v Speaker 1>needs to make it to the book. And the reason

506
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<v Speaker 1>why is like, for instance, we talked about this on

507
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<v Speaker 1>the whole Dune episode, right, fifty Shades of Gray was

508
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<v Speaker 1>inspired by Twilight. There is no connection between the two

509
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<v Speaker 1>as far as like the storyline. Yeah, the storyline, the

510
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<v Speaker 1>character arcs, some features here and there, maybe, but most

511
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<v Speaker 1>people don't even know that connection exists. So to say

512
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<v Speaker 1>that to the average person wouldn't mean like, yeah, fifty

513
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Shades is obviously Twilight inspired right within the biblical sources,

514
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<v Speaker 1>or let's just say you know, yeah for this, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say biblical. Fine, I would say that all of that

516
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<v Speaker 1>is divinely inspired, i e. All of it goes back

517
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<v Speaker 1>to yahweh, it all goes back to God. That's I

518
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<v Speaker 1>feel like those kind of they obviously flow together. Twilight

519
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and fifty shades don't flow together unless you're looking deeper

520
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<v Speaker 1>to find that there's an obvious plagiarism here.

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<v Speaker 2>Does this make sense?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I hear are you saying? I think it's

523
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<v Speaker 7>just a big potential, just a different in understanding. I

524
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<v Speaker 7>agree with it. So, for example, the all of the

525
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<v Speaker 7>other books of the Tanak minus the Torah, I would

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<v Speaker 7>agree that they are just finally inspired, and they came

527
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<v Speaker 7>into existence and being through whatever God wanted it to.

528
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<v Speaker 7>And these were the words that he that God wanted

529
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<v Speaker 7>on on paper. Yeah, as as opposed to the Torah,

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<v Speaker 7>which I think is a higher level I mean, which

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<v Speaker 7>is the higher level of holiness and divinity. That that's

532
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<v Speaker 7>why there are so many authors who are so painstakingly

533
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<v Speaker 7>try to figure out what each word means an extra

534
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<v Speaker 7>letters or missing letters, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>But the same could be said for anything of the

536
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<v Speaker 2>Hebrew literature outside the toy even right even after that,

537
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<v Speaker 2>but to not there's still a lot of conversation about

538
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<v Speaker 2>the missing letters and the actual definition of behind all

539
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<v Speaker 2>of that.

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, so I agree that there's a understanding. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>for example, in the Book of Esther, there are a

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<v Speaker 7>number of letters that are large and a number of

543
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<v Speaker 7>letters that are small. That set of letters, the gamatri,

544
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<v Speaker 7>are the equal those letters equal. Basically whenever the Nuremberg

545
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<v Speaker 7>Trials happened, and how the people were were hanged, and

546
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<v Speaker 7>the one person that committed suicide was very much so mirrored,

547
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<v Speaker 7>or what happened in the Book of Esther was mirrored

548
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<v Speaker 7>in those trials.

549
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<v Speaker 2>Wait, the Gomatria to the book of Esther is a

550
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<v Speaker 2>predecessor for the Nuremberg trials.

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, so nothing matria of Estra.

552
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<v Speaker 11>So in the Book of Esther, there are a number

553
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<v Speaker 11>of of letters that are larger than what they should be,

554
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<v Speaker 11>and there are a few letters that are smaller than

555
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<v Speaker 11>what they should be.

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<v Speaker 7>If you had all of the if.

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<v Speaker 1>You you know what I mean, like capital on lower

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<v Speaker 1>case by the way, right, you mean like purposely written

559
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<v Speaker 1>to be larger.

560
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<v Speaker 7>Correct, okay, correct, purposely We're ready to be larger, purposely

561
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<v Speaker 7>to be written smaller. And there was and there was

562
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<v Speaker 7>an illusion because so after Hammon's children were were all hangs,

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<v Speaker 7>Esther basically praised to God that the evil people should

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<v Speaker 7>you know, should should be killed. And look, so why

565
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<v Speaker 7>did she utter this prayer when the sons were already killed.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's because she was a prophetesque and she knew

567
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<v Speaker 7>what would happen in the future. And that's that's why.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the first time I've ever heard this. This

569
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<v Speaker 2>might become an episode of the cult. To be completely

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, And before we continue, North Trucker, I know that

572
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<v Speaker 1>you are not somebody that gets down with any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of biblical references.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we is all what we're talking about completely lost

575
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<v Speaker 2>on you?

576
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Or like I don't even know your background as you

577
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>grow up in some sort of a proto Christian household,

578
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>or and then found your way to paganism later on,

579
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:19.359
<v Speaker 1>or where are you?

580
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<v Speaker 7>I meant I've met.

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<v Speaker 12>I originally was a Catholic, but I lost faith in

582
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<v Speaker 12>when I was thirteen years old, right started reading into

583
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<v Speaker 12>Viking stuff. Then I got into the gods and everything

584
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:42.880
<v Speaker 12>like that, and then this is probably about fifteen. Then

585
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 12>I was heavily into it right up until my twenties,

586
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:50.640
<v Speaker 12>got into bad shit as we do in our twenties,

587
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:55.079
<v Speaker 12>as one does, Yeah, and then started coming back to

588
00:31:55.119 --> 00:32:00.039
<v Speaker 12>it in my thirties right wanting to get back into it.

589
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:04.680
<v Speaker 12>But uh, yeah, no, I pretty much have a layout

590
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.400
<v Speaker 12>of what it is, right and what you guys are

591
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<v Speaker 12>talking about the biggest thing though, is that even in

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<v Speaker 12>my religion, right.

593
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<v Speaker 13>We'll say your religion.

594
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there is.

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<v Speaker 12>Actually two humans that were originally created.

596
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<v Speaker 7>By the gods, and the three gods.

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<v Speaker 12>Are Odin, Villi, and Vague right, and the humans that

598
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<v Speaker 12>they created were actually called ash and or asked.

599
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<v Speaker 2>In blo where we get ash and elm trees from?

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<v Speaker 12>I do believe so because they were created from the

601
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<v Speaker 12>ash and elm tree.

602
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:55.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was like four breeds of trees that were

603
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<v Speaker 1>like specifically religiously important to the Nordics. I know Ash, yes, home, Birch,

604
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<v Speaker 1>and I want to say oak, but I could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 1>So I used to know a little bit more about

607
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<v Speaker 1>the Nordic pagan beliefs than I do now. It's been

608
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<v Speaker 1>a hot minute since I did some research into them.

609
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<v Speaker 1>But is there any cohesive thought as far as how

610
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<v Speaker 1>old the earth is per the Nordic tradition?

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<v Speaker 13>I not really, because I'm.

612
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<v Speaker 1>I know there's a creation story, there is something close

613
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<v Speaker 1>to it as far as like how the realms were

614
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:36.039
<v Speaker 1>created kind of thing, But as far as the earth itself.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know if they have a date set

616
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<v Speaker 1>on that kind of shit.

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<v Speaker 13>No, they don't, because it's actually by mouth and everything

618
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<v Speaker 13>like that, because we.

619
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<v Speaker 12>Didn't have well, the our Chiavens didn't have written word

620
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:55.359
<v Speaker 12>or anything like that, but they did have ruins. Yeah right,

621
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<v Speaker 12>they were set on set on stones all across the

622
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:05.079
<v Speaker 12>Germanic air quotations like Slavic areas.

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<v Speaker 13>But they can't you can't really carbon date when they

624
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:14.119
<v Speaker 13>were actually made because it's rock.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, so yeah, God.

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<v Speaker 12>It could be one hundred thousand years ago, it could

627
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:26.599
<v Speaker 12>be two hundred thousand years ago. Maybe our religion was

628
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:31.559
<v Speaker 12>what kicked Christianity, but we don't know that, right, We

629
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<v Speaker 12>don't know that because even if Alexandra was actually the

630
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<v Speaker 12>Library of Alexandra's sorry, even if they had all them

631
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<v Speaker 12>written word in it, well, I'm pretty sure that's all

632
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<v Speaker 12>in the Vatican now.

633
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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, I'll tell you what, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>For the majority of my life, I always looked at

635
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<v Speaker 1>the burning of the Library of Alexandria is probably like

636
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<v Speaker 1>one one of the biggest hits to humanity, and in

637
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:04.599
<v Speaker 1>some small way I still kind of feel that way.

638
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<v Speaker 1>But looking at the data that we have now the

639
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.880
<v Speaker 1>library was pretty much in disrepair when the burning took place.

640
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<v Speaker 1>There was other libraries that had way more documentation or

641
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<v Speaker 1>way better staffed at the time. Alexandra at one point

642
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>was like the hub of all information and all knowledge.

643
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:24.400
<v Speaker 1>By the time it burned down, Like, there's some evidence

644
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:26.920
<v Speaker 1>to suggest that half of those books and scrolls and

645
00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>everything else were just rotten anyway and unreadable.

646
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.280
<v Speaker 2>So it wasn't as big.

647
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Of a hit as the lack of upkeep, you know,

648
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:40.400
<v Speaker 1>but to the point, a lot of a lot of

649
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:44.280
<v Speaker 1>the stories and a lot of the history that's lost

650
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<v Speaker 1>to the sands of time, not just from Alexander, but

651
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:50.159
<v Speaker 1>even like the Library of Ephesis Delphi, all these like, yeah,

652
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:53.199
<v Speaker 1>it's it is a massive hit, And I wish we

653
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<v Speaker 1>had these documents.

654
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<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, I do too. Yes, indeed, Sam, what

655
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:00.880
<v Speaker 2>you got, big dog?

656
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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna say, when you take an account that

657
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<v Speaker 5>we're saying that there are other people didn't add them,

658
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:09.960
<v Speaker 5>it would taking account the fact that in that it

659
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<v Speaker 5>says that then the sons of God came down into

660
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<v Speaker 5>the daughters of men, and they created the mighty men

661
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<v Speaker 5>of old, the mighty men of renown, which would talk

662
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<v Speaker 5>about like your demi gods, which one fact, Heracles and

663
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<v Speaker 5>Achilles are both technically demi gods if you look into

664
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<v Speaker 5>their mythologies, and Thor is set actually a seventy five

665
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<v Speaker 5>percent giant and twenty five percent as because Odin is

666
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<v Speaker 5>fifty giant fifty. So it kind of makes you wonder

667
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<v Speaker 5>why I thought it was the.

668
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so a couple of things to break down here. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Heracles with you demi god. Achilles his parentage wasn't of

670
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<v Speaker 1>a god. His the only reason he had his powers

671
00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:57.280
<v Speaker 1>because mother dipped him in that river.

672
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<v Speaker 2>Correct, Yes, but.

673
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<v Speaker 5>His mother wasn't in war.

674
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<v Speaker 14>She was a Yeah, I can't remember her name, but

675
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:08.039
<v Speaker 14>I was looking through it. She he's her mother is

676
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<v Speaker 14>an immortal, like she's not a god, not an Olympian,

677
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<v Speaker 14>but she was like a lester d eighty of sorts.

678
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<v Speaker 1>I am gonna have to relook at that because I

679
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:18.440
<v Speaker 1>that information. This might be the first time in my

680
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:21.360
<v Speaker 1>life I've ever heard that. So it's been a long

681
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:23.920
<v Speaker 1>time since I looked into the Iliad in the Odyssey,

682
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:24.760
<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you.

683
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know, obviously I don't believe any of

684
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:33.679
<v Speaker 3>that stuff happened, But hero story stories were really popular

685
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<v Speaker 3>in the ancient Near East, So what I imagine is

686
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:42.159
<v Speaker 3>a lot of ancient people within Israel were probably sort

687
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<v Speaker 3>of drawn to these superhero stories. So the Jewish religion

688
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:49.480
<v Speaker 3>had to kind of repudiate this, like, no, God's having

689
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:53.079
<v Speaker 3>sex with women and creating these Nephelin characters. That's a

690
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:53.599
<v Speaker 3>bad thing.

691
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<v Speaker 1>Wait, you don't believe in giants, Tony.

692
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<v Speaker 2>No, No, really, and I mean, like.

693
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't know. There were maybe like seven foot

694
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:06.519
<v Speaker 3>tall skeletons. There were some really tall people, but I

695
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.360
<v Speaker 3>don't believe in the whole gods and women, you know,

696
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:11.039
<v Speaker 3>making babies or anything like that.

697
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So let's take it to a more and still

698
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:19.800
<v Speaker 1>ancient story, but more recent than the creation Goliath. Do

699
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>you believe that he was in fact a giant or

700
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:24.599
<v Speaker 1>a really tall dude that they just kind of made

701
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:27.360
<v Speaker 1>legend and Lord just sound like he was Nephelin blood.

702
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:30.519
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I think he was either a really large guy

703
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:32.159
<v Speaker 3>or maybe the whole story.

704
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Is made up really damn Yeah.

705
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, so Goliath has descended from Ogue, who tagged

706
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:44.519
<v Speaker 3>on with the Noah's Ark or something. I remember some

707
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:47.119
<v Speaker 3>people speculating with that I don't believe any of that

708
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:48.280
<v Speaker 3>stuff happened.

709
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:51.480
<v Speaker 2>So I don't I don't think that the Nephelum.

710
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I heard the story that one of them like hailed

711
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:56.119
<v Speaker 1>on to Noah's boat and that's how the nephel and

712
00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>blood line survived. I'm of the belief that the same

713
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:03.159
<v Speaker 1>way that possession can happen in a human body, nephilimic

714
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 1>possession could have happened back in these days.

715
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:08.360
<v Speaker 2>I know it's it's that's completely faith based.

716
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I understand there's no quantifiable evidence to back any of

717
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:12.039
<v Speaker 1>these things up.

718
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:16.280
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, okay, you might be the only Christian I

719
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:19.400
<v Speaker 2>know that has views that you do. Like you are

720
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:20.280
<v Speaker 2>a monolith bro.

721
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:24.760
<v Speaker 3>Uh uh yeah, I'm well, you know, you know, Thomas

722
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:28.199
<v Speaker 3>Jefferson tried to delete everything supernatural out of the Bible,

723
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:30.559
<v Speaker 3>and I don't think I go quite that far, but

724
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.880
<v Speaker 3>like I am a little more in that direction than

725
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:35.719
<v Speaker 3>a younger creationist.

726
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:36.440
<v Speaker 2>For sure.

727
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:40.320
<v Speaker 1>The Jefferson Bible is literally just quotes from Jesus, like

728
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:42.280
<v Speaker 1>that's it, the Old Testament.

729
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:43.719
<v Speaker 2>We don't even know that. We need to know what

730
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:44.480
<v Speaker 2>the dude said.

731
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:48.360
<v Speaker 1>And I mean he he wasn't exactly a Christian. He

732
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:52.760
<v Speaker 1>wasn't exactly an atheist. He I think he more leaned

733
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:56.679
<v Speaker 1>towards the Christian ethos as far as that goes. But

734
00:39:57.239 --> 00:39:59.639
<v Speaker 1>I've done a fair amount of research into Jefferson. There's like,

735
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he might have attended church on the rare occasion,

736
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:06.360
<v Speaker 1>but he definitely wasn't a Bible toting Christian by any

737
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<v Speaker 1>stretch of the imagination. He was more of the uh

738
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<v Speaker 1>I guess what we would maybe call Renaissance type of

739
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:19.039
<v Speaker 1>mindset maybe, but yeah, he So you're saying as far

740
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<v Speaker 1>as the uh, the mystical properties of the stories of

741
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.079
<v Speaker 1>old that that's never really jibed with you.

742
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Uh, not a whole lot. But uh, you know, I

743
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.400
<v Speaker 3>guess I do believe in the resurrection, and I do

744
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:34.480
<v Speaker 3>believe in Jesus's miracles, including and I will you know,

745
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:38.159
<v Speaker 3>contradict myself here, the multiplication of the loaves and the fishes.

746
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:40.760
<v Speaker 3>I think that was meant to be taken literally and

747
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:44.199
<v Speaker 3>not just symbolically. That the real miracles that they shared

748
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:47.679
<v Speaker 3>their food. Now, yeah, it's supposed to it's supposed to

749
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:48.760
<v Speaker 3>be interpreted literally.

750
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:51.880
<v Speaker 1>So then I guess my next question to you is

751
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:56.159
<v Speaker 1>why Catholicism, of all of the sects of Christianity that

752
00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:58.719
<v Speaker 1>some of them are more aligned with what you're saying.

753
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, why would you go with

754
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the one that's got the most mystic properties to it whatsoever.

755
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:09.000
<v Speaker 3>The most myssed. I don't know about that, but I

756
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:12.320
<v Speaker 3>was born into it, so like most people, that's just

757
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:13.239
<v Speaker 3>where I ended up.

758
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:17.039
<v Speaker 2>I got you, all right, And by that, for the record,

759
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:19.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to throw shade towards Catholicism any means,

760
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:23.840
<v Speaker 2>but like no other, no other group actually believes in transubstantiation,

761
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:24.880
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean?

762
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.599
<v Speaker 3>Like no, I think the Lutherans and the Anglicans do.

763
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Anglicans do, you're right, but they also consider

764
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:31.440
<v Speaker 1>themselves Catholic.

765
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:36.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, they do. And I think it's most it's Calvinists,

766
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:41.400
<v Speaker 3>and well that turned into a big branch Protestantism. They

767
00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:45.400
<v Speaker 3>reject it. But yeah, I think that was meant to

768
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:48.280
<v Speaker 3>be interpreted literally too, And it was kind of scandalous

769
00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:51.639
<v Speaker 3>because you're not supposed to drink blood. Yeah, you're faithful

770
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:54.920
<v Speaker 3>practitioner Judaism.

771
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you do believe in transubstantiation.

772
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:03.639
<v Speaker 3>Yes, at least I'm supposed to. And yeah, I tried to.

773
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Does that make sense? I can try to. I think

774
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:12.159
<v Speaker 3>belief is largely an involuntary reaction to external stimuli like

775
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:14.800
<v Speaker 3>other emotions. But you can choose to try to believe things.

776
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:17.239
<v Speaker 3>So I think that's where I'm at. I try to

777
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:19.760
<v Speaker 3>believe it, so at least I'm trying.

778
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:23.440
<v Speaker 1>You're a complicated guy, dude, and I appreciate that about you, honestly.

779
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:26.679
<v Speaker 1>You know, you add there's levels to you, there's depth there.

780
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Fuck yeah, Sam, your hand is raised and Royce unmuwt

781
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:31.360
<v Speaker 1>to himself.

782
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Whoever speaks first can go for it.

783
00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:33.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

784
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:36.960
<v Speaker 5>I was just gonna say that Achilles is mother's name

785
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:42.079
<v Speaker 5>is Thesties. She was a nymph slash Naiad, so she

786
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:47.280
<v Speaker 5>is of the divinity through the Poseidon everything because she

787
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:50.480
<v Speaker 5>is of the sea. So in which case, yes, Achilles

788
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:54.480
<v Speaker 5>was a demi god. But she dipped him in the

789
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:58.039
<v Speaker 5>river stakes so he would be and her attempts to

790
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:01.639
<v Speaker 5>be for him to be blessed or immortality. But the

791
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:04.599
<v Speaker 5>reason why his achilles heel was what's killed him just

792
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:06.599
<v Speaker 5>because that was his mortal point, because that was the

793
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.840
<v Speaker 5>only bit of his humanity that I was asked.

794
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:11.840
<v Speaker 6>Because she dipped him in and when she.

795
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:12.440
<v Speaker 13>Did she was.

796
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:15.639
<v Speaker 5>She was holding him by his heels, which is why

797
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:17.519
<v Speaker 5>you have achilles tendon.

798
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:20.960
<v Speaker 2>So, okay, I didn't know that she was a nymph.

799
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:23.840
<v Speaker 1>So what you're saying is, if I understand this correctly,

800
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:30.880
<v Speaker 1>she was a offspring of Neptune sticking his dick in plants, correct.

801
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Socidon.

802
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:37.159
<v Speaker 5>So in Greek he's posided in when he's Neptune.

803
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Most of the most of the.

804
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:44.639
<v Speaker 1>Roman structure is about the three big gods not being

805
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:46.639
<v Speaker 1>able to keep their dicks to them. So, actually, Hades

806
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:48.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't do that ship. Hades was respectful.

807
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:55.199
<v Speaker 5>Hades was actually the only one faithful in his in

808
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:59.159
<v Speaker 5>his marriage, but out of his brothers and everything. But no,

809
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:03.639
<v Speaker 5>she was more of like a beauty, that is, lily

810
00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:04.280
<v Speaker 5>of the sea.

811
00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:06.360
<v Speaker 6>She's not an offspring of Poseidon.

812
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:10.840
<v Speaker 5>Those would be the Psyclopses, such as most famously known

813
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:15.679
<v Speaker 5>as Polycemius, which is the one that but what what's

814
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:22.360
<v Speaker 5>his name? Odysseus poked his eyut and he said, who

815
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.760
<v Speaker 5>attacked you? And he said it was no one, And yeah,

816
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:28.079
<v Speaker 5>I really love Greek mythology.

817
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.679
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize that that one Cyclops was also the

818
00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:33.119
<v Speaker 2>offspring of the sea god.

819
00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I really do need to reread the Aliad in the Odyssey.

820
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:39.719
<v Speaker 1>I think they're phenomenal books. Also, ship what was the

821
00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:40.800
<v Speaker 1>third iteration of it?

822
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:44.960
<v Speaker 13>You have the the Odyssey and the Iliad, but these

823
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:45.840
<v Speaker 13>the one one.

824
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Of this I'm gonna get pissed off.

825
00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:53.159
<v Speaker 1>Basically, when when Paris gave the Sword of Troy to

826
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:57.360
<v Speaker 1>old Boy and then he allegedly founded Greece, I'm trying

827
00:44:57.360 --> 00:44:58.760
<v Speaker 1>to remember what the name of the fuck.

828
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:06.400
<v Speaker 5>There's two Trojans that that found that they claimed to

829
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:11.360
<v Speaker 5>have found a loan because after they were breastfed a

830
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:14.920
<v Speaker 5>by the wolf mother Lucus, which is why we have

831
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:16.880
<v Speaker 5>the consolation of it.

832
00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:20.119
<v Speaker 2>God, damn it. There was another one that starts a.

833
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:26.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Bojans to Greek that was Chrosen because Troy was

834
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:27.239
<v Speaker 5>at war with Grief.

835
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:28.599
<v Speaker 2>Damn it.

836
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:30.159
<v Speaker 1>I want to say the book starts with an A.

837
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong. It's been a hot minute. I

838
00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:34.760
<v Speaker 1>really do need to get back into the classics. It's

839
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:36.039
<v Speaker 1>been it's been far too long.

840
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:38.360
<v Speaker 5>I'll figure it out and I'll text it to you.

841
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:41.320
<v Speaker 5>But the movie that's based around that and all it

842
00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:42.119
<v Speaker 5>is called Troy.

843
00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:45.440
<v Speaker 2>By the way. Yeah, it's a phenomenal movie. Phenomenal movie.

844
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.599
<v Speaker 2>They left out so many key details.

845
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:50.280
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, you're taking one of the most epic

846
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:53.000
<v Speaker 1>stories ever told and trying to condense it down to

847
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:53.800
<v Speaker 1>a two hour movie.

848
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:55.880
<v Speaker 2>There's gonna be things left out, So I.

849
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Mean, take what you want, S and D love you, brother,

850
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Appreciate you, Norse trucker. Your hand was raised and then

851
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:07.599
<v Speaker 1>you put it down. Did you want to speak on it?

852
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:08.360
<v Speaker 13>Royce closed?

853
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Next?

854
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:12.599
<v Speaker 7>All right, Royce, No, no, that was actually that was

855
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:16.519
<v Speaker 7>an accident. I do know if you contribute, Okay, fair enough,

856
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:20.199
<v Speaker 7>Oh now I forgot what.

857
00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:25.039
<v Speaker 2>It's all good anyway.

858
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I just thought this was really interesting to bring up here,

859
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:30.760
<v Speaker 1>as we're talking about how old, not just the earth

860
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:34.320
<v Speaker 1>but humanity is. Now, we know, beyond any shadow of

861
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:38.559
<v Speaker 1>any doubt that we have written records that date to

862
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:43.400
<v Speaker 1>thirty eight to forty thousand BC, and I think that

863
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:46.039
<v Speaker 1>was just cool as fuck. So I thought we'd just

864
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:50.000
<v Speaker 1>start off the episode with that, also bringing this one

865
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:53.199
<v Speaker 1>up as Darma old things. There was a treasure hunter.

866
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:56.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know I many of all remember hearing about this,

867
00:46:56.440 --> 00:46:59.679
<v Speaker 1>so he refused to disclose the location of shipwrecks five

868
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:02.920
<v Speaker 1>hundre gold coins. He was arrested for that, and he

869
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:05.400
<v Speaker 1>was just released from prison. Let's talk about this a

870
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:08.280
<v Speaker 1>little bit more so. A former deep sea treasure hunter

871
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:11.119
<v Speaker 1>who made one of the greatest shipwreck discoveries in American

872
00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:14.800
<v Speaker 1>history and spent the past decade in prison after refusing

873
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:17.000
<v Speaker 1>to disclose the whereabouts of some of its missing gold

874
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:21.719
<v Speaker 1>coins is now free. Tommy Thompson, who in nineteen eighty

875
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:25.519
<v Speaker 1>eight located what was known as the Ship of Gold

876
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:28.559
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote off the coast of South Carolina, and he

877
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:32.840
<v Speaker 1>was released last Wednesday, which this was. This article is

878
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:35.079
<v Speaker 1>from March tenth, so I guess that'd be two weeks

879
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:38.519
<v Speaker 1>ago as time recording goes, according to the Federal Bureau

880
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:41.880
<v Speaker 1>of Prison records reviewed by the Associated Press. Thompson, an

881
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Ohio born research scientist, was hailed as a hero after

882
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:49.400
<v Speaker 1>finding the SS Central America and it's thousands of pounds

883
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:51.840
<v Speaker 1>of sunken treasure that sat at the bottom of the

884
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Atlantic Ocean for more than one hundred and fifty years.

885
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:57.480
<v Speaker 1>The ship sank in September of eighteen fifty seven, along

886
00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:00.840
<v Speaker 1>with four hundred and twenty five passengers and crew members

887
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:04.800
<v Speaker 1>and thirty thousand pounds of federal gold from the new

888
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:08.079
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco Mint to create reserve for banks in the

889
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:11.199
<v Speaker 1>Eastern US. The ship was located by Thompson and his

890
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:14.239
<v Speaker 1>team more than seven thousand feet below the surface, but

891
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:18.360
<v Speaker 1>in the decades that followed, he battled with investors who

892
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:21.559
<v Speaker 1>accused him of cheating them out of millions when they went,

893
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:24.559
<v Speaker 1>and then spent years on the run as a fugitive

894
00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:28.039
<v Speaker 1>before being sent to prison over rebuffing court orders while

895
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:31.519
<v Speaker 1>contending he didn't know what happened to five hundred coins

896
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:35.079
<v Speaker 1>minted from the ship's gold. Can y'all imagine that shit.

897
00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:38.440
<v Speaker 1>You're hailed as a hero for finding this lost ship

898
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:40.960
<v Speaker 1>and its gold and his treasure and all that, but

899
00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:43.320
<v Speaker 1>they're now going to give you shit because there's five

900
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:48.199
<v Speaker 1>hundred unaccounted for thirty thousand pounds of gold, and there's

901
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:51.639
<v Speaker 1>five hundred coins that we just can't account for, and

902
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.400
<v Speaker 1>your boy gets brought on federal charges and was arrested

903
00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:58.840
<v Speaker 1>for this. He spent decades in jail, decades for something

904
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:00.760
<v Speaker 1>that he probably had no fucking clue.

905
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:02.280
<v Speaker 2>It's possible he swiped him.

906
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know, And honestly, if he did, let

907
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:08.679
<v Speaker 1>the boy have him, he found him. Finders keeper's dog,

908
00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:12.599
<v Speaker 1>but okay. Continuing on here, the Central America was filled

909
00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:15.119
<v Speaker 1>with a big haul from the California gold rush. When

910
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:18.119
<v Speaker 1>it sank in a hurricane in eighteen fifty seven, four

911
00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:20.760
<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty five people drowned and thousands of pounds

912
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:24.400
<v Speaker 1>of golds were lost, contributing to an economic panic. Investors

913
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:27.719
<v Speaker 1>who backed Thompson's venture sued him in two thousand and five,

914
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.360
<v Speaker 1>saying they had yet to receive any money from the

915
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:33.719
<v Speaker 1>fifty million dollars sale of more than five hundred goal

916
00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:39.119
<v Speaker 1>bars and thousands of coins, just part of the ship's booty. Thompson,

917
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:42.360
<v Speaker 1>who was living in Florida, went into seclusion and then

918
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:45.400
<v Speaker 1>later became a fugitive when an Ohio federal judge issued

919
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:48.199
<v Speaker 1>a warrant of his arrest in twenty twelve after he

920
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:51.199
<v Speaker 1>failed to show up in court. Three years later, authorities

921
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:53.679
<v Speaker 1>tracked Thompson to a Florida hotel where he was living

922
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:56.079
<v Speaker 1>under a fake name. The judge then hailed him in

923
00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:58.159
<v Speaker 1>contempt and sent Thompson to prison at the end of

924
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:01.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen for refusing to answer questions about the location

925
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:04.320
<v Speaker 1>of missing coins. So excuse me, I said, decades he

926
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:09.320
<v Speaker 1>spent a decade my bad. Thompson, now seventy three, maintained

927
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:12.480
<v Speaker 1>that the coins, valued then at two point five million,

928
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:16.079
<v Speaker 1>were turned over to a trust in Belize, and said

929
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:18.199
<v Speaker 1>that fifty million dollars from the sale of the first

930
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:23.079
<v Speaker 1>batch of Goal mostly went toward legal fees and bank loans. Yo,

931
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Belize just be making some crazy ways into the conversation

932
00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:28.960
<v Speaker 1>of my life here lately. I'm just throwing it out.

933
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Belize is an awesome spot, you know, good for investments

934
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:32.639
<v Speaker 1>and banking.

935
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:34.719
<v Speaker 2>Apparently, he remained.

936
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Locked up even though federal law generally limits jail time

937
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:39.840
<v Speaker 1>for contempt of court to eighteen months.

938
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:42.159
<v Speaker 2>He was in jail for a decade. Wow.

939
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:46.599
<v Speaker 1>A federal appeals court in twenty nineteen rejected Thompson's arguments

940
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:49.519
<v Speaker 1>that the law applied to him, saying his refusal violated

941
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:52.880
<v Speaker 1>conditions of a plea agreement. The following year, Thompson appeared

942
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:56.639
<v Speaker 1>by video for another hearing, where US District Judge Algernon

943
00:50:56.920 --> 00:51:02.199
<v Speaker 1>Marbley Algernon God his mom hates him, asked again, asked

944
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:05.519
<v Speaker 1>whether he was ready to address the whereabouts of gold.

945
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:08.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm really curious if Algernon is a family name or

946
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:11.119
<v Speaker 1>if that's off of the book Flowers for Alganon. And

947
00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:13.440
<v Speaker 1>if so, that's why I said his mom hated him anyway.

948
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Direct quote from Thompson here, He said, your honor, I

949
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:19.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know if we've gone and gone over this road

950
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:22.119
<v Speaker 1>before or not, but I don't know the whereabouts of

951
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the gold. Thompson responded, I feel like I don't have

952
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:27.920
<v Speaker 1>the keys to my freedom. Just over a year ago,

953
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Marbley agreed to end thompson sentence on the civil contempt charge,

954
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:34.679
<v Speaker 1>saying he was no longer convinced that keeping him in

955
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:37.800
<v Speaker 1>prison would produce an answer. The judge then ordered Thompson

956
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:40.400
<v Speaker 1>to immediately start serving a two year sentence for skipping

957
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.760
<v Speaker 1>the twenty twelve court hearing people kill people and get

958
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:47.039
<v Speaker 1>out in half the time. Dwight Manly, a California coin

959
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:50.320
<v Speaker 1>dealer who bought and sold nearly the entire fortune, said

960
00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:53.519
<v Speaker 1>Monday that Thompson paid a heavy price over what he

961
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:56.760
<v Speaker 1>described as a business dispute, and I have to agree

962
00:51:56.800 --> 00:51:58.880
<v Speaker 1>with that. Going to prison for ten years over a

963
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:02.119
<v Speaker 1>business dispute is not of America, mainly said, people kill people

964
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:04.679
<v Speaker 1>and get out in half the time. Sentences and civil

965
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:08.679
<v Speaker 1>contempt cases are somewhat indefinite, but they shouldn't go on forever,

966
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:11.960
<v Speaker 1>said Ryan Scott, a University of Florida law professor who

967
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:15.760
<v Speaker 1>researches contempt law and work to secure Thompson's release. It's

968
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:18.440
<v Speaker 1>very unusual to get ten years or to go on

969
00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:21.400
<v Speaker 1>ten years. So this is Tommy Thompson. This is the

970
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:25.159
<v Speaker 1>former deep sea treasure hunter who found this gold. Which

971
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:28.559
<v Speaker 1>again kudos to the guy for doing the research to

972
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:31.840
<v Speaker 1>find this, but shit on the government for arresting him

973
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:34.039
<v Speaker 1>for this long for five hundred missing coins. So he

974
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:38.559
<v Speaker 1>handed over bars of gold, all these coins. Now his

975
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:41.760
<v Speaker 1>investors not getting any money back for their investment.

976
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:44.159
<v Speaker 2>I can't speak to you. Got to pay the people

977
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:44.599
<v Speaker 2>that paid you.

978
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Likes, that's just good business here, but specifically over five

979
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:54.840
<v Speaker 1>hundred coins, that's that's a hefty, hefty sentence for that,

980
00:52:55.719 --> 00:52:58.119
<v Speaker 1>he said. Thompson should have been freed years ago, since

981
00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:01.280
<v Speaker 1>at least twenty eighteen, after the court smith the underlying case,

982
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:04.000
<v Speaker 1>calling it a miscarriage of justice for this to have

983
00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:07.400
<v Speaker 1>gone on this long. Treasure from the SS Central America

984
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:10.199
<v Speaker 1>has fetched millions of dollars over the years. In twenty

985
00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:13.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty two, one of the largest ss Central America ingots

986
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:17.840
<v Speaker 1>ever offered at auction. An eight hundred and sixty six

987
00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:21.679
<v Speaker 1>point one nine ounce fine known as just an hunter

988
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:25.719
<v Speaker 1>Ingott sold for two point one six million dollars through

989
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Dallas based heritage auctions in twenty nineteen. Multiple relics from

990
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:32.599
<v Speaker 1>the shipwreck hauled more than eleven million at auction.

991
00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:35.800
<v Speaker 2>In two thousand and one, an eighty pound.

992
00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Ingot that is quite an ingot, good God, was bought

993
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:41.960
<v Speaker 1>by a private collector for a record eight million dollars.

994
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:43.039
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying.

995
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:45.400
<v Speaker 1>It's like all of these millions of dollars had made

996
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:47.480
<v Speaker 1>their way out, but they're gonna throw them in jel

997
00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:48.880
<v Speaker 1>over five hundred coins.

998
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:52.000
<v Speaker 2>You see what I'm saying. This is crazy. But he

999
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:53.719
<v Speaker 2>has freed. He has been freed.

1000
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:56.519
<v Speaker 1>Rather, he is a freeman out here breathing the free air,

1001
00:53:57.159 --> 00:53:59.719
<v Speaker 1>and I'm hoping that he gets his retribution. I hope

1002
00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:02.519
<v Speaker 1>that he is still seen as a hero and a

1003
00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:05.440
<v Speaker 1>legit treasure hunter who went the extra mile and made

1004
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:07.599
<v Speaker 1>it happen. So I thought that was going to be

1005
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:08.440
<v Speaker 1>a cool one to bring up.

1006
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Now, let's talk a little bit about what's going on

1007
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:14.800
<v Speaker 2>with Iran is from a couple of days ago, the carrier,

1008
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:18.079
<v Speaker 2>the USS gerald R Ford suffers a fire and at

1009
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:21.199
<v Speaker 2>least two sailors are injured. Now this is the same

1010
00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:22.280
<v Speaker 2>gerald R Ford that was.

1011
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Having issues with their plumbing and their toilets backing up

1012
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:26.960
<v Speaker 1>not too terribly long ago, and now they had a fire.

1013
00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:30.440
<v Speaker 1>So let's learn a little bit more about this. The

1014
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:33.880
<v Speaker 1>fire broke out on board aircraft carrier SS gerald Ford

1015
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:38.280
<v Speaker 1>on Thursday. Multiple sources confirmed to us NI News the

1016
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:40.800
<v Speaker 1>initial fire has been extinguished, but the crew is still

1017
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:43.960
<v Speaker 1>doing damage control. According to a US official, Naval c

1018
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:47.199
<v Speaker 1>Systems Command for Deployed Regional Maintenance Center Good God, that's

1019
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:50.239
<v Speaker 1>mouthful is preparing to help the fleet with electrical support.

1020
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:53.760
<v Speaker 1>On March twelfth, the USS gerald R Ford experienced a

1021
00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:56.960
<v Speaker 1>fire that originated in the ship's main laundry spaces.

1022
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:00.119
<v Speaker 2>The laundry spaces.

1023
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:03.599
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's important because when this ship caught fire,

1024
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Iran was trying to tout it as a victory for them,

1025
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:09.639
<v Speaker 1>like one of their bombs had gotten through.

1026
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:11.840
<v Speaker 2>I remember seeing a few social media posts from their.

1027
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Outlets saying that they had just scored a hit and

1028
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:17.239
<v Speaker 1>there was a there was a picture of the fire

1029
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:18.880
<v Speaker 1>and all these things they were using it for that

1030
00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:23.000
<v Speaker 1>propaganda that didn't go twelve hours before they were like, no,

1031
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that's that's not what happened. There's actually no way in

1032
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:28.000
<v Speaker 1>hell that you could touch our boats. But like, okay,

1033
00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:31.960
<v Speaker 1>so just so we're clear here, the laundry room, some

1034
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:36.400
<v Speaker 1>fucking lower enlisted didn't clean out the lint traps or

1035
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:40.559
<v Speaker 1>and or a dryer overheated or something, and there was

1036
00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:42.639
<v Speaker 1>a fire on the ship. That is the thing that happened.

1037
00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:45.239
<v Speaker 1>The cause of the fire was not combat related and

1038
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:48.960
<v Speaker 1>is contained. There was no damage to the ship's propulsion plant,

1039
00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:51.320
<v Speaker 1>and the aircraft carrier remains fully operational.

1040
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Two sailors are currently receiving.

1041
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Medical treatment for non life threatening injuries, and our stable

1042
00:55:56.559 --> 00:56:00.719
<v Speaker 1>or instable condition rather. Additional information will be provided when available.

1043
00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:03.519
<v Speaker 1>As of Wednesday, Ford was operating in the northern part

1044
00:56:03.559 --> 00:56:05.639
<v Speaker 1>of the Red Sea, off the coast of Al Jaj,

1045
00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:09.400
<v Speaker 1>probably mispronouncing in Saudi Arabia. According to a ship spotter,

1046
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Ford and three of its escorts, the USS Mahan, USS

1047
00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:17.519
<v Speaker 1>Bainbridge and the USS Winston S. Churchill, transited the Suez

1048
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Canal last week. The Ford Carrier Strike Group has been

1049
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:24.280
<v Speaker 1>participating in Operation Epic Fury, the US is Raeli campaign

1050
00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:26.800
<v Speaker 1>against Iran that is nearly nearing the end of its

1051
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:30.199
<v Speaker 1>second week. The carrier has been deployed since June of

1052
00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:34.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five and has been extended multiple times. Last month,

1053
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the Pentagon extended Ford and tasked the carrier to the

1054
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:38.639
<v Speaker 1>Middle East ahead.

1055
00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:39.599
<v Speaker 2>Of the start of the war with Iran.

1056
00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:42.920
<v Speaker 1>If the Ford remains deployed until mid April, it will

1057
00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:45.639
<v Speaker 1>break the post Vietnam War two hundred and ninety four

1058
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:49.559
<v Speaker 1>day record for carrier deployments. The USS Abraham Lincoln set

1059
00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:52.400
<v Speaker 1>that record in twenty twenty. Should the carrier stay out

1060
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:55.639
<v Speaker 1>until early May, it would rival the three hundred day

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<v Speaker 1>plus deployments that carried carriers conducted during the Vietnam War

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<v Speaker 1>in the Gulf of Tonkin. So anyway, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to bring this out here. A lot of things have

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<v Speaker 1>been said about the fire on the Gerald Ford. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a laundry room.

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<v Speaker 2>Fire, y'all. That's all it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is fine, everything is hunky dory. But as we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about the sea, as we were talking about

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00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:19.280
<v Speaker 1>the ocean and things like that, and because we were

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00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:22.840
<v Speaker 1>just talking about treasure hunting, there is a conversation being

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<v Speaker 1>had right now the archaeological discovery of the century. A

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00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:30.760
<v Speaker 1>city resembling Atlantis has been found at the bottom of

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00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:34.679
<v Speaker 1>a lake. I thought this was fucking awesome, so let's

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00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:38.559
<v Speaker 1>talk about it here. A medieval settlement has been confirmed

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00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:41.559
<v Speaker 1>on a lake floor, showing that streets and buildings lie

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00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:46.239
<v Speaker 1>underwater today. That drowned footprint charges are changes where historians

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00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:49.800
<v Speaker 1>look for trade, religion, and daily life along Central Asia's

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00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:53.000
<v Speaker 1>oldest travel corridors. So let's talk about it more. Along

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00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Lake a Sikh Cool in Kyrgyzstan south of Kazakhstan in

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00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:01.559
<v Speaker 1>Central Asia, divers in an underwater expedition surveyed a flooded

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<v Speaker 1>zone near Toro or Turu or a ager can't pronounce

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<v Speaker 1>it anyway using those fines archaiolol archaeologists Valerie Kolinchko Kolchinko, Kolchinko, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Valerie Kolchinko of the National Academy of Sciences in the

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<v Speaker 1>Kurjez Republic called it a city from just three feet

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00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:28.800
<v Speaker 1>to thirteen feet down. Kolchinko's team mapped four separate areas

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00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:33.039
<v Speaker 1>where walls, beams, and pottery state intact. Such intact material

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00:58:33.119 --> 00:58:36.519
<v Speaker 1>make the label or the lakeb lat Jesus Christ. That's

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00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:40.320
<v Speaker 1>a misfucked up word there, makes the lake bed more

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00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:43.719
<v Speaker 1>than a rumor, But the real street plan still remains

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00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:47.320
<v Speaker 1>hidden walls, kilns in debris. So back in twenty twenty

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00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:50.079
<v Speaker 1>three and twenty twenty four, an expedition report described brick

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00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:54.039
<v Speaker 1>buildings and kiln complexes lying beneath the water of this lake.

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00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Alongside the masonry, divers collected broken ceramics, animal bones, and

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00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:02.400
<v Speaker 1>slag left over ways from metal heating and refining. Under

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00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:06.039
<v Speaker 1>loose sand, the team found a preserved cultural layer, a

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00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:10.159
<v Speaker 1>band of soil packed with human traces, findings that buried

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00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:13.239
<v Speaker 1>layers are finding. That buried layer suggests people built and

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00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:16.679
<v Speaker 1>rebuilt on the shore for years before water covered everything.

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<v Speaker 2>So caravan rhoads once threaded around this region, and UNESCO

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00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:25.559
<v Speaker 2>tracks those corridors in its Silk Roads program. In Kyrgyzstan,

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00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:29.920
<v Speaker 2>a conservation report traced a main path from Chui Valley

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00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:34.199
<v Speaker 2>west of this lake and over Bedel Pass into China.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'm not saying this is actually Atlantis. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying a completely intact city underwaters where the Atlantis thing

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00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:45.320
<v Speaker 1>comes from. Some through that corridor, merchants moved silk, spices

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00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:48.679
<v Speaker 1>and metal works, while ideas about religion and language traveled

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00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:52.159
<v Speaker 1>with them. The monument understudy is a city or a

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00:59:52.280 --> 01:00:01.960
<v Speaker 1>large commercial alg a goalt, agglomeration, amalgam. I don't know

1109
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:03.719
<v Speaker 1>if they misspelled that one either. Either way, it's a

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01:00:03.800 --> 01:00:07.360
<v Speaker 1>large commercial city, you know, market if you will. On

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01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:10.400
<v Speaker 1>one of the important sections of the Silk Road, so

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01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:14.599
<v Speaker 1>burials point to Islam. Near the ruined buildings, a team

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01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:19.280
<v Speaker 1>documented a thirteenth and fourteenth century Muslim necropolis, a planned

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01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:23.519
<v Speaker 1>cemetery used by the com by one community. Bodies lay

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01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:28.599
<v Speaker 1>with faces turned toward Quibla Quibla, the direction of Mecca

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01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:33.960
<v Speaker 1>during prayer, matching long standing burial practices. Covering roughly one

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01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:37.079
<v Speaker 1>thousand by six hundred and fifty feet, the cemetery still

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01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:40.519
<v Speaker 1>hailed enough bone for specialists to recover two individuals. Wave

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01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:44.119
<v Speaker 1>action is eroding the graves now, so carefully recording or

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01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:49.000
<v Speaker 1>careful recording may matter more than digging up every artifact. Tony,

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01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:51.079
<v Speaker 1>I see you unmute yourself, bro, what's your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's the Kibler direction. And we did a whole

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01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:57.199
<v Speaker 3>episode on this once upon a time, but yeah, they

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01:00:57.199 --> 01:01:02.000
<v Speaker 3>got a face Mecca or Petra tradtional version of Islam.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm i gotta say, dude, after we talked about it,

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01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I looked more into it. I think you're on the

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01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:08.920
<v Speaker 2>money with this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I completely agree that Petro was the original site that

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01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the Muslims saw with such veneration, and then they just

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01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:19.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of arbitrarily decided on Mecca because there was a

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01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:22.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of pagan tribes that used that site at Mecca

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01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:24.719
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of sacrifices and rituals and things, but

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01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:28.679
<v Speaker 1>that didn't come about until years after Mohammed.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and the whole thing started in Petra and it

1135
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:36.039
<v Speaker 3>was transplanted to Mecca about sixty years after Mohammad died

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01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:39.920
<v Speaker 3>in six point thirty two AD due to a major

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01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:44.400
<v Speaker 3>civil war that took place within early Islam and a

1138
01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:48.639
<v Speaker 3>guy named Mohammad or something ibben Zubar who ran Petra

1139
01:01:48.840 --> 01:01:51.559
<v Speaker 3>trying to get the sacred Stone as far away from

1140
01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Syria as possible, so he took it south and then

1141
01:01:55.079 --> 01:01:57.679
<v Speaker 3>it lived there forever, and that's Mecca. And there's zero

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01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:03.079
<v Speaker 3>archaeological evidence anyone lived in Mecca before the seventh century. Zero.

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01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:06.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I don't think they lived there, but didn't they.

1144
01:02:06.679 --> 01:02:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Again, it's been a while since I looked into this,

1145
01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:12.400
<v Speaker 1>but I want to say there was like a group

1146
01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:17.519
<v Speaker 1>or multiple groups of sand dwelling pagan tribes that lived

1147
01:02:17.559 --> 01:02:20.159
<v Speaker 1>in that area that used Mecca for certain sacrifices.

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01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Am I off base here?

1149
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:25.079
<v Speaker 3>Well, all the Hadiths that refer to that are probably

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01:02:25.159 --> 01:02:28.000
<v Speaker 3>actually talking about Petra. Petra was a major city going

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01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:31.079
<v Speaker 3>back to before Emperor Hadrian in the first century or

1152
01:02:31.199 --> 01:02:37.199
<v Speaker 3>second century, and Mecca has zero archaeological evidence anything any

1153
01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:41.199
<v Speaker 3>human habitation was going on, So the entire the entire

1154
01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:45.400
<v Speaker 3>history was just transplanted, and they pretended everything happened way

1155
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:49.920
<v Speaker 3>down south here in the Hijaz region. They had to

1156
01:02:49.960 --> 01:02:52.639
<v Speaker 3>pretend nothing took place in Petra, and Petra became a

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01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:56.840
<v Speaker 3>ghost town. It was completely forgotten until Swiss guy rediscovered

1158
01:02:56.880 --> 01:02:58.679
<v Speaker 3>it in about eighteen twenty.

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01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:02.400
<v Speaker 1>And that also blows my mind because with the size

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01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:05.880
<v Speaker 1>of Petra and all of the importance that there is there,

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01:03:06.320 --> 01:03:08.599
<v Speaker 1>you would think that even the locals would have tried

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01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:12.400
<v Speaker 1>to keep it up, not even a little bit.

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01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:17.599
<v Speaker 3>Hans Ludwig Burkhardt and he moved to Egypt. He converted

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01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:19.719
<v Speaker 3>to Islam, and a bunch of people told him, you know,

1165
01:03:19.719 --> 01:03:22.079
<v Speaker 3>there's this big ghost town if you go this way,

1166
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:26.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, into the Negev Desert. And he went out

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01:03:26.599 --> 01:03:28.880
<v Speaker 3>and found it and said, oh my goodness, this is

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01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:33.599
<v Speaker 3>the city that tons of ancient Greek and Roman you know,

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01:03:33.639 --> 01:03:36.679
<v Speaker 3>writers wrote about. But it used to have a lot

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01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:38.960
<v Speaker 3>of water at that time, and I think the water

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01:03:39.159 --> 01:03:42.039
<v Speaker 3>it suffered some major earthquakes, for one thing, and the

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01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:44.920
<v Speaker 3>waterways and aqueducts are still there, but there's very little

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01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:47.960
<v Speaker 3>water there right today. So it became a ghost town.

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01:03:48.760 --> 01:03:52.400
<v Speaker 2>It's incredible, and a Swedish dude converted to Islam.

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01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Swiss.

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01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's yes, excuse me Swiss. But that's that's so crazy.

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01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Because he was an educator guy obviously, to go in

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01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:04.599
<v Speaker 2>these expeditions and things, you think he would have read

1179
01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:06.920
<v Speaker 2>the Koran or read the Hedeeth and been like, huh,

1180
01:04:07.079 --> 01:04:08.519
<v Speaker 2>something's a little bit fucky here.

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01:04:09.159 --> 01:04:11.559
<v Speaker 3>Let me double check that. I'll correct the record if

1182
01:04:11.559 --> 01:04:12.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm wrong about.

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01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I believe I heard that once upon a time about

1184
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:17.719
<v Speaker 1>the guy who discovered Petro. But it's like, you know,

1185
01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:21.519
<v Speaker 1>a slight bit of critical thinking. I understand that faith

1186
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:23.800
<v Speaker 1>is very important and We just talked about how certain

1187
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:25.440
<v Speaker 1>things from the Old Testament you need a lot of

1188
01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:26.039
<v Speaker 1>faith to believe.

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01:04:26.159 --> 01:04:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I feel this, I truly do. But even just looking

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01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:30.000
<v Speaker 2>at the.

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01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Words of Mohammed and just everything he taught, cut to

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01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:39.480
<v Speaker 1>how he died, all of that collectively, like you would

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01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:45.000
<v Speaker 1>think a sane, logical person with the ability to form free,

1194
01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:48.480
<v Speaker 1>an independent thought wouldn't read the Koran and think, oh

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01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:51.679
<v Speaker 1>my god, this is clearly the way like that that

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01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:54.679
<v Speaker 1>just has always blown my mind converts to Muslim. Now,

1197
01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:57.840
<v Speaker 1>if it's at sword point for self preservation, I'm not

1198
01:04:57.840 --> 01:04:59.280
<v Speaker 1>saying I agree with it, but at least I could

1199
01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:00.199
<v Speaker 1>put the pieces together in.

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01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:01.559
<v Speaker 2>My head to be like, yeah, I get it.

1201
01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:04.480
<v Speaker 1>It was either convert or die, so like cool, I

1202
01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:06.599
<v Speaker 1>feel like that wasn't the case for our boy here.

1203
01:05:07.159 --> 01:05:09.280
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, Sam, go ahead.

1204
01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:13.400
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm sorry, I just got back.

1205
01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:17.360
<v Speaker 5>I was gonna ask besides talking about yo, go fugger,

1206
01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:18.760
<v Speaker 5>what did I miss.

1207
01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Nothing? Sam?

1208
01:05:20.519 --> 01:05:22.960
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the gerald Ford. We're talking about an

1209
01:05:22.960 --> 01:05:26.480
<v Speaker 1>ancient city that was found underwater. We're talking about just

1210
01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:27.159
<v Speaker 1>just stuff, bro.

1211
01:05:27.519 --> 01:05:30.079
<v Speaker 7>You know the Chinese Atlantis.

1212
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:37.400
<v Speaker 2>No, this one's actually uh in Kyrgyzstan, south of Kazakhstan.

1213
01:05:39.239 --> 01:05:42.320
<v Speaker 5>Okay, I know that that that that was the Yeo

1214
01:05:42.519 --> 01:05:43.400
<v Speaker 5>Soviet Union.

1215
01:05:43.480 --> 01:05:45.039
<v Speaker 7>So it's someone in eastern Europe.

1216
01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:48.719
<v Speaker 2>Uh, southwest Asia.

1217
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh so my people southwest like closer to closer to

1218
01:05:56.119 --> 01:05:57.199
<v Speaker 1>like Persia.

1219
01:05:57.239 --> 01:05:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Than it is to to China.

1220
01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:01.880
<v Speaker 7>The sandbox.

1221
01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, there's like borderline sandbox people, not exactly, but borderline.

1222
01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:11.880
<v Speaker 2>They're on the outskirts if you will, Okay, yeah, okay, Tony,

1223
01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:12.440
<v Speaker 2>what do you find?

1224
01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah he did convert.

1225
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:16.599
<v Speaker 2>That's so fucking crazy to me.

1226
01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:20.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. He had to go to extraordinary lengths to prove

1227
01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:23.679
<v Speaker 3>he was really Muslim so that he would be allowed

1228
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:28.280
<v Speaker 3>to travel to Mecca and he passed the tests. Wow,

1229
01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:32.960
<v Speaker 3>he spoke. Yeah, he traveled to Aleppo first. Yeah, there's

1230
01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:36.639
<v Speaker 3>along Wikipedia and his name was Johan Ludvig Berkhart, not Hans.

1231
01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I was wrong, you were off by one yo. Like,

1232
01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:43.480
<v Speaker 1>calm down, you're closer than the rest of us. But anyway,

1233
01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:44.760
<v Speaker 1>that's fascinating.

1234
01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:47.400
<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about why this city sank.

1235
01:06:47.639 --> 01:06:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Geologists know that the tian Shan Mountains shake often, and

1236
01:06:51.840 --> 01:06:56.039
<v Speaker 1>Kolchenko linked the city's drowning to a major fifteenth century earthquake.

1237
01:06:56.320 --> 01:06:59.199
<v Speaker 1>When an earthquake breaks the lake bed or tilts, the

1238
01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:02.119
<v Speaker 1>shore water can spill over the streets and bury walls

1239
01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:06.039
<v Speaker 1>under silt. Atlantis is a label people reached for, yet

1240
01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:09.079
<v Speaker 1>signs of abandonment before the collapse suggest the disaster killed

1241
01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:12.679
<v Speaker 1>few residents. After the city vanished, nomadic groups use the

1242
01:07:12.719 --> 01:07:16.360
<v Speaker 1>shore in small villages still ring the lake today. So

1243
01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I just thrown this out here. It's not actually Atlantis,

1244
01:07:20.679 --> 01:07:23.239
<v Speaker 1>but still cool. And if I'm not mistaken, this is

1245
01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:25.519
<v Speaker 1>an actual picture of the site, so you can clearly

1246
01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:29.000
<v Speaker 1>tell that this was a Muslim town, right. You can

1247
01:07:29.039 --> 01:07:31.800
<v Speaker 1>see the tall pillar, the dome, the whole situation on

1248
01:07:31.800 --> 01:07:33.679
<v Speaker 1>a mosque type of situation, the cemetery.

1249
01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:38.079
<v Speaker 2>It's still cool as shit that they have found this underwater.

1250
01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:39.679
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, all right.

1251
01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Moving on, let's talk a little bit more of the

1252
01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:45.519
<v Speaker 1>modern day here. So this is from the Independent. I

1253
01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:48.320
<v Speaker 1>understand the source, you have to question it and test

1254
01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:49.679
<v Speaker 1>it and all the things. But I thought this was

1255
01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:52.920
<v Speaker 1>a fascinating one to bring up here. So doge Bros

1256
01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Exposed depositions from Elon Musk's team revealed chat GPT process

1257
01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:03.440
<v Speaker 1>for gutting DEI grants. So there was ten hours of

1258
01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:06.400
<v Speaker 1>testimony that was given recently from two of these DOZE

1259
01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:11.039
<v Speaker 1>dudes that uncovered their largely uninformed judgments behind sweeping decisions

1260
01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:14.239
<v Speaker 1>about grant funds. We can all remember when Trump took

1261
01:08:14.239 --> 01:08:17.319
<v Speaker 1>office the second time, within the first few months, DOZE

1262
01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:19.640
<v Speaker 1>was coming in to cut out all the wasteful fraud

1263
01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:21.640
<v Speaker 1>and abuse and spending and all these things.

1264
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<v Speaker 2>And for the record, a lot of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>they were.

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01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Cutting, I have to say, and granted what we were

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01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:32.079
<v Speaker 1>told about what they were cutting, I supported, right, fine,

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01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:34.560
<v Speaker 1>But apparently two of these dudes have left DOZE and

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01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:37.159
<v Speaker 1>now they're speaking out about what actually went down there.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, let's see how long this little video

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<v Speaker 1>is here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see, uh, how do you interpret?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so from them, So this is justin Fox, former

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01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:46.399
<v Speaker 1>DOGE staffer. Let's listen to him and hear what he

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<v Speaker 1>has to say about it.

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<v Speaker 15>DEI, there was the EO explicitly laid out the details.

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01:09:02.600 --> 01:09:03.840
<v Speaker 7>I don't remember it off the top.

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01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:03.920
<v Speaker 15>Of my head.

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01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm asking for your understanding of it.

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01:09:06.119 --> 01:09:08.880
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, my understanding was exactly what was written in the EOY.

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01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:10.880
<v Speaker 16>So can you I don't remember what was in the

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01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:12.920
<v Speaker 16>EU so right now, do you have an understanding of

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01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:16.560
<v Speaker 16>what dee I is yeah, okay, So what's your understanding

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01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:18.199
<v Speaker 16>I guess you sit here today in this deposition.

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01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:24.119
<v Speaker 15>Well, it was exactly what was written in the EO,

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01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:28.279
<v Speaker 15>and so anytime that we would look at a grant

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01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:30.760
<v Speaker 15>through the lens of complying with an exact order, we

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01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:33.840
<v Speaker 15>would just refer back to the EO and assess if

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01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:35.920
<v Speaker 15>this grant had relation to it.

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01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:42.199
<v Speaker 16>Okay, But I guess I'm stepping back from your methodology

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01:09:42.279 --> 01:09:44.640
<v Speaker 16>strictly and terminating the grants. Do you have an understanding

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01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:47.840
<v Speaker 16>I guess you sit here today of what dee I means. Yeah, okay,

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01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:53.560
<v Speaker 16>So what's your understanding of what it means? Well, it

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01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:55.479
<v Speaker 16>is exactly what was written in the EO.

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01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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01:09:55.920 --> 01:09:58.479
<v Speaker 15>So I don't have the EO in front of me,

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01:09:58.560 --> 01:10:00.880
<v Speaker 15>but that was we would always reference back to the

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01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:03.640
<v Speaker 15>EO and make sure that this grant was in compliance

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01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:04.600
<v Speaker 15>with the EO.

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<v Speaker 16>I understand that, okay, But I'm not asking necessarily about

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01:10:08.199 --> 01:10:12.039
<v Speaker 16>what was in the EO. I'm asking very specifically about

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01:10:12.079 --> 01:10:17.359
<v Speaker 16>your present understanding of what of DEI do you have

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01:10:17.399 --> 01:10:20.560
<v Speaker 16>a present understanding of d okay? Can you explain what

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01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:21.720
<v Speaker 16>that present understanding is?

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01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:25.520
<v Speaker 15>Well, it is just easier for me to be referencing

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01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:26.239
<v Speaker 15>back to the EO.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you refusing to answer the question.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not refusing to answer the question. Okay, I just

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01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:30.600
<v Speaker 7>feel that.

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<v Speaker 1>Your boy is fucking pleading the fifth like a motherfucker here. Okay,

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01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:39.359
<v Speaker 1>fair enough, So let's get into here. So Elon Musk's

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01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:42.920
<v Speaker 1>disciples in his so called Department of Government Efficiency were

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01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:47.159
<v Speaker 1>embedded across federal agencies with a mandate to fire thousands

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01:10:47.159 --> 01:10:50.479
<v Speaker 1>of public employees and radically cut federal spending, of which

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01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:55.239
<v Speaker 1>most of the country rejoiced. When Musk deployed DOGE into

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01:10:55.239 --> 01:10:58.840
<v Speaker 1>the National Endowment for the Humanities, which provides vital financial

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01:10:58.880 --> 01:11:02.840
<v Speaker 1>support for researching are its programs. I saw some of

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01:11:02.880 --> 01:11:05.880
<v Speaker 1>the research they were conducting. I wouldn't say that the

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01:11:05.920 --> 01:11:08.720
<v Speaker 1>research was necessarily vital. In a lot of those cases,

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01:11:09.560 --> 01:11:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Musk's staff abruptly choked off more than fourteen hundred grants,

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01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:16.399
<v Speaker 1>eliminating tens of millions of dollars in public funding within

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01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:18.920
<v Speaker 1>less than a month. More than ten hours of newly

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01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:22.479
<v Speaker 1>released video testimony from January uncovers how the two DOGE

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01:11:22.520 --> 01:11:26.399
<v Speaker 1>operators relied on chat, GPT and their own largely unformed

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01:11:26.439 --> 01:11:29.439
<v Speaker 1>judgments to make sweeping decisions about funding for a range

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01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:32.720
<v Speaker 1>of programs and projects and the people who rely on them.

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<v Speaker 2>The depositions, stemming from a lawsuit from the Modern Language Association,

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01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:42.159
<v Speaker 2>the American Council of Learned Societies, and the American Historical Association,

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01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:45.880
<v Speaker 2>included testimony from the two young DOZE officials, Justin Fox

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01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:49.880
<v Speaker 2>and Nathan Cavanaugh, neither of whom had experienced working in government,

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01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:53.439
<v Speaker 2>let alone grant administration. The only grants they didn't touch

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01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:56.920
<v Speaker 2>involved events surrounding America's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary and

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01:11:56.960 --> 01:12:01.520
<v Speaker 2>the National Garden of Heroes to Donald's Trump's priorities. So

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01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:03.800
<v Speaker 2>these are the two dudes in question here right.

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01:12:04.479 --> 01:12:08.479
<v Speaker 1>Evidence from in this case exposes DOGE haphazard and unlawful

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01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:12.479
<v Speaker 1>actions from unqualified agents who undermined the separation of powers

1337
01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:15.720
<v Speaker 1>and denied the American people access to vital public programming

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01:12:16.159 --> 01:12:22.039
<v Speaker 1>and research. According to Modern Language Association executive director Paula M. Krebs,

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01:12:22.680 --> 01:12:24.960
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of quotes in that sentence that

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01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I just said, But anyway, long story short, they're saying

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01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:30.439
<v Speaker 1>that the dudes that were running DOGE had no clue

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01:12:30.439 --> 01:12:33.199
<v Speaker 1>what they were doing. They were using Chad GPT with

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01:12:33.279 --> 01:12:36.840
<v Speaker 1>a certain uh and which they were very open about

1344
01:12:36.840 --> 01:12:39.279
<v Speaker 1>the fact that they were using AI to power doge.

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01:12:39.880 --> 01:12:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize there was Chad GPT.

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01:12:42.199 --> 01:12:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I figured because it was Elon's baby, they would have

1347
01:12:44.600 --> 01:12:48.520
<v Speaker 2>been using what's ex's version is that Grock. I figured

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01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:50.840
<v Speaker 2>they would have been using Grock for this. Yeah, that

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01:12:51.479 --> 01:12:52.560
<v Speaker 2>makes a little more sense to me.

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01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:55.880
<v Speaker 1>But apparently they were just using Chad GPT to sift

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01:12:55.880 --> 01:12:59.359
<v Speaker 1>through what grants did and did not actually fit in

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01:12:59.399 --> 01:13:04.199
<v Speaker 1>with equal Opportunity and DEI shit. So that's a thing.

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01:13:04.880 --> 01:13:08.399
<v Speaker 1>But again they're they're bitching about this, y'all. Do remember

1354
01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:12.760
<v Speaker 1>us talking about this. One of those research projects that

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01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:15.000
<v Speaker 1>got like, I want to say, it was like fourteen

1356
01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:18.960
<v Speaker 1>million dollars was from was the University of Alabama or

1357
01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:21.920
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina. It was about how much wind from a

1358
01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:24.720
<v Speaker 1>leaf blowery it takes to blow a lizard off a tree.

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01:13:26.239 --> 01:13:29.079
<v Speaker 1>That was That was millions of dollars that was being

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01:13:29.079 --> 01:13:31.520
<v Speaker 1>put forth to the research and the things that the

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01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:35.800
<v Speaker 1>public needed, vital, vital things. It's like, again, I'm not

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01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:39.520
<v Speaker 1>saying everything they cut was that ridiculous, but a lot

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01:13:39.560 --> 01:13:42.880
<v Speaker 1>of the things they cut were fucking retarded, like, I'm

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01:13:42.920 --> 01:13:45.560
<v Speaker 1>just throwing it out. But Sam, I see your hand brother,

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01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:49.479
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, shry.

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01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:50.840
<v Speaker 13>I thought I loaded it my bad.

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01:13:52.039 --> 01:13:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh all right, cool, cool cool. So anyway, chat GPT

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01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:55.239
<v Speaker 2>and DEI.

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<v Speaker 1>During his hours long deposition, Fox admitted to using chat

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01:13:58.239 --> 01:14:01.600
<v Speaker 1>ept to sift through grants before Dough started slashing. They

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01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:06.079
<v Speaker 1>used a prompt does the following relate to DEI, and

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01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:09.119
<v Speaker 1>then they would just input the fucking the grant and

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01:14:09.199 --> 01:14:12.319
<v Speaker 1>see what popped up. Then they asked the generative AI

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01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:15.960
<v Speaker 1>chatbot to quote respond factually in less than one hundred

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01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and twenty characters and begin with yes or no, followed

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01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:20.680
<v Speaker 1>by a brief explanation.

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01:14:21.680 --> 01:14:24.399
<v Speaker 2>So they didn't actually do any kind of real work

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01:14:24.439 --> 01:14:24.920
<v Speaker 2>into this.

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01:14:25.399 --> 01:14:27.840
<v Speaker 1>They were strictly using chat GPT to figure out if

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01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:30.000
<v Speaker 1>this was or was not a good thing for the

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01:14:30.039 --> 01:14:34.319
<v Speaker 1>government to spend its money on. That's that's kind of

1382
01:14:34.359 --> 01:14:38.399
<v Speaker 1>asinine like on some very real levels. And again they

1383
01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:40.800
<v Speaker 1>were saying, and Musk went on saying that with the

1384
01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:43.039
<v Speaker 1>use of AI they were able to really get through

1385
01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:45.319
<v Speaker 1>and just find the fraud and find the abuse and

1386
01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:48.279
<v Speaker 1>just cut through it relatively quickly and all these things.

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01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:51.079
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think that this was what they were doing.

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01:14:51.159 --> 01:14:53.319
<v Speaker 1>I thought they were using like an AI model that

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01:14:53.359 --> 01:14:56.479
<v Speaker 1>they made specifically to go through all of the things,

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01:14:56.560 --> 01:14:58.680
<v Speaker 1>all of the grants, all of where the money's going,

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01:14:58.720 --> 01:15:02.600
<v Speaker 1>and follow each penny to to its final destination. This

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01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:05.279
<v Speaker 1>is not what I thought was going on there. I'm

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01:15:05.319 --> 01:15:09.279
<v Speaker 1>still more in favor of Doze than not, but I'm

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01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:13.640
<v Speaker 1>also very much against Chad g Ept. And again when

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01:15:13.680 --> 01:15:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I say Doze, I don't meet Elon Musk and his crew.

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01:15:16.359 --> 01:15:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying I am all about us finding where there's

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01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:24.399
<v Speaker 1>stupid government spending and cutting that out. I'm fully in

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01:15:24.439 --> 01:15:28.680
<v Speaker 1>favor of that, including sending money to foreign countries. I

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01:15:28.760 --> 01:15:30.399
<v Speaker 1>don't think we need to be doing that, at least

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01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:32.640
<v Speaker 1>not for a few years, right. And I'm not saying

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01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:36.039
<v Speaker 1>we need to go fully isolationist. I'm saying that as

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01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:38.520
<v Speaker 1>of this moment, we have a deficit that's rising by

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01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:41.760
<v Speaker 1>the hour, by the minute, by the second. We don't

1404
01:15:41.800 --> 01:15:44.640
<v Speaker 1>need to be sending a few million dollars to random

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01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:48.640
<v Speaker 1>country in Africa, to Israel, to Ukraine to where.

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01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:51.920
<v Speaker 2>We don't need to do that. You know, that's just

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01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:57.960
<v Speaker 2>my hot take anyway, But go ahead, Sam.

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01:15:56.479 --> 01:15:58.800
<v Speaker 5>I agree with you, and can we please take the

1409
01:15:58.960 --> 01:15:59.800
<v Speaker 5>weapons from the.

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01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:04.840
<v Speaker 2>IRS, haven't they. They didn't disarm the I r S.

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01:16:04.920 --> 01:16:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Did they? No? I remember they were training like ten

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01:16:09.279 --> 01:16:10.279
<v Speaker 2>thousand they.

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01:16:11.279 --> 01:16:12.720
<v Speaker 6>Oh no, I didn't give them more.

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01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I remember this.

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01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I remember when they were training up like ten thousand

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01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I r S employees to do some sort of close

1417
01:16:22.720 --> 01:16:24.800
<v Speaker 1>quarters combat, and it was like, why are you aren't

1418
01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:27.680
<v Speaker 1>arming the I r S. Which is not a government entity,

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01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:32.279
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a civilian agency allegedly, But.

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01:16:33.199 --> 01:16:36.640
<v Speaker 5>It was the treasure I mean the I r S

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01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:43.319
<v Speaker 5>I called Oh, I mean wrong it they it was

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01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:45.239
<v Speaker 5>the Treasury, the IRS.

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01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:48.000
<v Speaker 6>I took down capone.

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01:16:48.600 --> 01:16:50.439
<v Speaker 2>It was a Treasury department, not the r S.

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01:16:52.640 --> 01:16:55.319
<v Speaker 1>It was for income tax evasion, yes, but they didn't

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01:16:55.359 --> 01:16:57.800
<v Speaker 1>send I r S clerks after our capone. They sent

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01:16:57.840 --> 01:17:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Treasury officers Elliott Ness and his untouchables. I believe it

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01:17:01.640 --> 01:17:05.239
<v Speaker 1>was called but yeah, that's so yeah.

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01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:09.479
<v Speaker 5>Which wasn't The Secret Service originally meant for the Treasury

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01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:11.720
<v Speaker 5>for like the Federalist serves and shit.

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01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to say the Secret Service was pretty much

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01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:20.760
<v Speaker 1>just for the private protection of multiple buildings and agencies

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01:17:20.800 --> 01:17:25.680
<v Speaker 1>within DC, but after Lincoln it became specifically.

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01:17:24.760 --> 01:17:25.800
<v Speaker 2>To protect potus.

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01:17:27.479 --> 01:17:33.399
<v Speaker 1>But every federal agency has an armed wing, just everybody knows,

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01:17:33.399 --> 01:17:36.920
<v Speaker 1>like the Post Office has an armed wing within it.

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01:17:37.520 --> 01:17:39.119
<v Speaker 1>I know that's a crazy thing to say, but.

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01:17:39.159 --> 01:17:42.199
<v Speaker 6>Like every I was going postal and shooting up the

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01:17:42.199 --> 01:17:43.039
<v Speaker 6>Post Office.

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01:17:43.319 --> 01:17:49.039
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't believe, but like you've ever seen a Yellowstone, right,

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01:17:49.119 --> 01:17:53.399
<v Speaker 1>So they got the Livestock Agency and they're all tack

1442
01:17:53.479 --> 01:17:55.520
<v Speaker 1>geared up and all these things, and yes, for the show,

1443
01:17:55.560 --> 01:17:59.039
<v Speaker 1>they make it seem like these dudes are doing unlawful

1444
01:17:59.079 --> 01:18:02.840
<v Speaker 1>things behind age of the Livestock Enforcement Commission or something,

1445
01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:03.279
<v Speaker 1>but like.

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01:18:03.680 --> 01:18:04.560
<v Speaker 2>That is a real thing.

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01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:07.720
<v Speaker 1>The Livestock Enforcement Commission is a real thing that does

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01:18:07.800 --> 01:18:11.359
<v Speaker 1>have dudes with all the tactical gear that does things

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01:18:11.399 --> 01:18:16.119
<v Speaker 1>along those lines, not illegally allegedly, but yeah, every single

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01:18:16.199 --> 01:18:20.319
<v Speaker 1>agency within the federal government has some sort of inherent

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01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:22.600
<v Speaker 1>armed wing within it.

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01:18:22.680 --> 01:18:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Food for thought anyway. All right, that's all we really

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01:18:27.239 --> 01:18:27.920
<v Speaker 2>wanted to talk about.

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01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:30.520
<v Speaker 1>With the Doge thing, they now know that chat GPT

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01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:33.600
<v Speaker 1>is the one that was behind Doge in all the cuts.

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01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:35.239
<v Speaker 2>This was a weird one.

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01:18:35.960 --> 01:18:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly what to think of it, but

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01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I figured we could start talking about this more. And

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01:18:41.560 --> 01:18:47.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm very curious that this is edible. So wild pigs, boarhogs,

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01:18:48.279 --> 01:18:52.600
<v Speaker 1>their meat is turning neon blue in California and has

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01:18:52.640 --> 01:18:56.000
<v Speaker 1>triggered warnings. So on screen right now is a picture

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01:18:56.520 --> 01:18:58.880
<v Speaker 1>of the.

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01:18:57.880 --> 01:18:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Wild pig that was killed.

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01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:02.600
<v Speaker 1>All the do was cut a slit across what it

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01:19:02.680 --> 01:19:06.800
<v Speaker 1>looks like a backstrap. The meat inside is bright blue.

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01:19:07.840 --> 01:19:10.600
<v Speaker 1>This is wildest shit. And I'm also very curious if

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01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:13.560
<v Speaker 1>blue eggs and ham taste good or blue. You know

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01:19:13.600 --> 01:19:14.760
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, green eggs and blue ham?

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01:19:14.880 --> 01:19:15.359
<v Speaker 2>What the fuck?

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01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:17.880
<v Speaker 1>What other fuck doctor sus was saying before we get

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01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:21.600
<v Speaker 1>into it, Sam, what's your thoughts?

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01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:25.119
<v Speaker 5>Oh, Stam, I am does not like green eggs and ham,

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01:19:25.520 --> 01:19:27.760
<v Speaker 5>but I would definitely try that. Maybe it's a lot

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<v Speaker 5>like the bear meat where if they et enough blueberries

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01:19:30.039 --> 01:19:32.600
<v Speaker 5>they take on the the flavor profile.

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01:19:34.359 --> 01:19:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Uh maybe maybe, but I don't think that's what there.

1477
01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:41.720
<v Speaker 5>Still tastes the same as over a bed of rice

1478
01:19:41.800 --> 01:19:43.640
<v Speaker 5>and gravy, That's.

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01:19:43.439 --> 01:19:43.960
<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying.

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01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:45.840
<v Speaker 1>But like borhog doesn't have a lot of fat to

1481
01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:48.439
<v Speaker 1>it's more lean meat, so like it ain't much gravy

1482
01:19:48.520 --> 01:19:51.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna get off of this, But even still it's it's

1483
01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:55.119
<v Speaker 1>weird as shit. We're gonna read about how it's turning blue.

1484
01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:57.680
<v Speaker 1>But Norse Trucker, what's your thoughts?

1485
01:19:59.479 --> 01:20:03.600
<v Speaker 12>Hey, bet it's coming from the lakes and ponds, because

1486
01:20:03.720 --> 01:20:06.039
<v Speaker 12>you know how they put that blue dye into some

1487
01:20:06.399 --> 01:20:09.960
<v Speaker 12>lakes and ponds. Yeah, that's probably where that's coming from.

1488
01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:14.039
<v Speaker 1>That's not a bad thought. Honestly, I could see the connection.

1489
01:20:14.119 --> 01:20:16.399
<v Speaker 1>There are something Kim trail related, for sure.

1490
01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, let's.

1491
01:20:18.640 --> 01:20:21.479
<v Speaker 1>Read about it and find out together, y'all. Game hunters

1492
01:20:21.520 --> 01:20:26.199
<v Speaker 1>found startlingly starting the neon blue flesh inside wild pigs

1493
01:20:26.199 --> 01:20:30.079
<v Speaker 1>in California in twenty twenty five, prompting advisory statements about

1494
01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:34.319
<v Speaker 1>potential contamination. I'm not talking about a little blue, Dan Burton,

1495
01:20:34.439 --> 01:20:37.600
<v Speaker 1>owner of a wildlife control company, told Salvador Hernandez at

1496
01:20:37.640 --> 01:20:41.680
<v Speaker 1>the Los Angeles Times, I'm talking about neon blue, blueberry blue.

1497
01:20:42.159 --> 01:20:44.880
<v Speaker 1>An investigation by local authorities found that the dramatic color

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01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:51.000
<v Speaker 1>change was caused by rodenticide poisoning. Rodenticide poisoning, I believe

1499
01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:54.640
<v Speaker 1>this would. I'm they're trying to fancy it rat poison,

1500
01:20:55.039 --> 01:20:58.800
<v Speaker 1>essentially prompting them to issue a warning throughout Monterey County

1501
01:20:59.199 --> 01:21:05.119
<v Speaker 1>rat poisons containing the chemical compound DIFI sayt d oh,

1502
01:21:05.119 --> 01:21:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna try to get this word right,

1503
01:21:07.600 --> 01:21:11.039
<v Speaker 1>y'all give me a second. Let it cook here. Difuscynon

1504
01:21:11.600 --> 01:21:17.520
<v Speaker 1>difa synone di fus synon I don't know are often

1505
01:21:17.600 --> 01:21:22.079
<v Speaker 1>sold dyed blue for identification. The compound's use has been

1506
01:21:22.159 --> 01:21:25.399
<v Speaker 1>highly restricted in California since twenty twenty four. Well obviously

1507
01:21:25.439 --> 01:21:28.760
<v Speaker 1>not dog hunters should be aware that the meat of

1508
01:21:28.800 --> 01:21:31.760
<v Speaker 1>the game animals such as wild pigs, deer, bear, and

1509
01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:35.800
<v Speaker 1>geese might be contaminated if that game animal has been

1510
01:21:35.800 --> 01:21:40.840
<v Speaker 1>exposed to the rodenticides, said Pesticide Investigator Coordinator Ryan Berber

1511
01:21:40.880 --> 01:21:45.600
<v Speaker 1>from the California Department of Wildlife and Fisheries. Rodenticide exposure

1512
01:21:45.680 --> 01:21:48.920
<v Speaker 1>can be a concern for non target wildlife in areas

1513
01:21:48.920 --> 01:21:53.720
<v Speaker 1>where applications occur in close proximity with wildlife habitat. Concerningly,

1514
01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:56.279
<v Speaker 1>this isn't the first time the wild pigs in the

1515
01:21:56.319 --> 01:21:59.680
<v Speaker 1>region have had their enterds tainted blue. A popular rodent

1516
01:21:59.680 --> 01:22:04.560
<v Speaker 1>control on agriculture. Deficinone again I don't fucking know is

1517
01:22:04.600 --> 01:22:10.039
<v Speaker 1>a first generation rodenticide and that acts as an anticoagulant,

1518
01:22:10.119 --> 01:22:13.319
<v Speaker 1>causing severe internal bleeding. It works by binding to an

1519
01:22:13.439 --> 01:22:17.840
<v Speaker 1>enzyme that recycles vitamin K. This reduces availability of vitamin K,

1520
01:22:18.119 --> 01:22:21.079
<v Speaker 1>making it impossible for animal livers to produce enough of

1521
01:22:21.119 --> 01:22:24.720
<v Speaker 1>the clotting factor crucial for to prevent internal bleeding.

1522
01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:27.600
<v Speaker 2>So this is what it looks like. This is like bait.

1523
01:22:28.319 --> 01:22:30.479
<v Speaker 2>This is the blue. It looks like blue.

1524
01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:36.159
<v Speaker 1>Coffee beans almost Honestly, Predators including humans, who eat an

1525
01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:39.239
<v Speaker 1>animal poison with the toxin can become ill themselves. While

1526
01:22:39.239 --> 01:22:42.479
<v Speaker 1>the chemical breaks down faster than second generation road insides

1527
01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:46.319
<v Speaker 1>the d I'm calling it that remains active in the

1528
01:22:46.319 --> 01:22:49.680
<v Speaker 1>dead animals tissue for some time, even if it's cooked.

1529
01:22:49.880 --> 01:22:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Wildlife groups globally have long been urging us to stop

1530
01:22:53.520 --> 01:22:56.640
<v Speaker 1>relying on chemical pesticides because of the collateral damage these

1531
01:22:56.680 --> 01:23:00.800
<v Speaker 1>poisons inflict, from owls to bees, pesticides are causing great

1532
01:23:00.880 --> 01:23:04.800
<v Speaker 1>harm to wildlife. Non target animals either consume it directly

1533
01:23:05.119 --> 01:23:08.760
<v Speaker 1>or are impacted by secondary exposure while eating other animals

1534
01:23:08.800 --> 01:23:12.159
<v Speaker 1>that have ingested the poison, adding further strain on already

1535
01:23:12.279 --> 01:23:17.279
<v Speaker 1>endangered species. Wow, so it's from a rat poison That

1536
01:23:17.439 --> 01:23:23.000
<v Speaker 1>is crazy as shit honestly, But I mean again, damn,

1537
01:23:23.159 --> 01:23:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to try some of that blue pigmy.

1538
01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:27.119
<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to see what that was about. But

1539
01:23:27.159 --> 01:23:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I ain't trying to die over it. Oh God, Royce,

1540
01:23:30.279 --> 01:23:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I know you're going to weigh in because it's pig.

1541
01:23:31.880 --> 01:23:35.520
<v Speaker 7>Go ahead, Oh all, I was going to say, I

1542
01:23:35.600 --> 01:23:37.199
<v Speaker 7>just make sure you don't eat blue meat.

1543
01:23:38.640 --> 01:23:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, curiosity was about to kill this cat, you

1544
01:23:41.640 --> 01:23:42.239
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying.

1545
01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:48.840
<v Speaker 7>Hold on making a reference for some other blue meat

1546
01:23:48.960 --> 01:23:50.319
<v Speaker 7>from many years ago.

1547
01:23:50.840 --> 01:23:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, blue or not red, you don't want to eat.

1548
01:23:53.800 --> 01:24:02.600
<v Speaker 17>It, didn't land Bat.

1549
01:24:02.800 --> 01:24:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like, don't be no, don't be no blue

1550
01:24:06.640 --> 01:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>roast beef out there, neither, for all my men out

1551
01:24:08.720 --> 01:24:09.600
<v Speaker 1>there in them streets.

1552
01:24:09.840 --> 01:24:10.439
<v Speaker 2>Just so we're clear.

1553
01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:13.640
<v Speaker 7>Thank you very much for properly landing.

1554
01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:15.840
<v Speaker 6>Tom got away.

1555
01:24:15.640 --> 01:24:19.439
<v Speaker 2>From all of these, especially if it's blue. You know

1556
01:24:19.479 --> 01:24:20.039
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying.

1557
01:24:21.760 --> 01:24:24.119
<v Speaker 6>But I thought we were roasting him because he's a vampire.

1558
01:24:24.760 --> 01:24:24.960
<v Speaker 7>No.

1559
01:24:25.159 --> 01:24:27.279
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was actually gonna make a reference to like, see,

1560
01:24:27.279 --> 01:24:28.359
<v Speaker 1>that's why we don't eat pork.

1561
01:24:28.520 --> 01:24:30.960
<v Speaker 2>But like, you know, I mean, here's that.

1562
01:24:31.119 --> 01:24:32.640
<v Speaker 7>I didn't need to say it because you're set up.

1563
01:24:33.239 --> 01:24:38.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I guess so, I guess mind control goddamn it.

1564
01:24:39.640 --> 01:24:42.399
<v Speaker 7>I mean mind control handler you know, might as well

1565
01:24:43.159 --> 01:24:44.439
<v Speaker 7>rack up, rack it up right?

1566
01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Why not he admitted it?

1567
01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:51.880
<v Speaker 4>He is handler if that's the case.

1568
01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Apparently, according to some people, I was supposed to be

1569
01:24:55.000 --> 01:24:57.920
<v Speaker 1>receiving a seven thousand dollars check from Israel and I

1570
01:24:57.960 --> 01:25:02.880
<v Speaker 1>ain't seen a penny of that ship. So yeah, I

1571
01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:05.039
<v Speaker 1>guess so you kept all of that ship, you fuck.

1572
01:25:05.359 --> 01:25:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm still saying fuck Net Yahountil, I get my check.

1573
01:25:08.199 --> 01:25:10.600
<v Speaker 1>But if I get my check, I might sing a

1574
01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:12.600
<v Speaker 1>different song. But as at this moment, Net and Yaho

1575
01:25:12.600 --> 01:25:13.479
<v Speaker 1>could eat a dick.

1576
01:25:13.640 --> 01:25:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Anyway before that guy gives you a dime.

1577
01:25:17.800 --> 01:25:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, some people are saying he's dead anyway, So I

1578
01:25:21.119 --> 01:25:22.119
<v Speaker 1>guess it don't really matter.

1579
01:25:22.279 --> 01:25:25.479
<v Speaker 2>You don't make no sense. The devil out of his

1580
01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:26.319
<v Speaker 2>money now.

1581
01:25:27.319 --> 01:25:30.319
<v Speaker 1>No, No, it's there's gonna be some other pundit that's

1582
01:25:30.359 --> 01:25:31.119
<v Speaker 1>gonna take over.

1583
01:25:31.359 --> 01:25:32.039
<v Speaker 2>It's a whole thing.

1584
01:25:32.079 --> 01:25:36.880
<v Speaker 5>Which but he's in hell if it and all, wouldn't

1585
01:25:36.880 --> 01:25:38.359
<v Speaker 5>he be taking the money from the.

1586
01:25:38.359 --> 01:25:41.399
<v Speaker 13>Devil because he's out of money?

1587
01:25:42.439 --> 01:25:45.840
<v Speaker 7>Wait? Who who? Wait? Wait, who's who's in hell?

1588
01:25:46.199 --> 01:25:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Net and Yahoo? If he's dead, that's the thing. Jews

1589
01:25:48.720 --> 01:25:49.439
<v Speaker 2>don't believe in hell?

1590
01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:52.960
<v Speaker 7>Dog No, So I mean we do, just not permanent.

1591
01:25:55.199 --> 01:26:03.159
<v Speaker 17>Believe we believe in Uh, well show and I mean

1592
01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:05.319
<v Speaker 17>ghanem is just it is.

1593
01:26:05.359 --> 01:26:08.239
<v Speaker 7>It's a place where where your soul gets heard of

1594
01:26:08.279 --> 01:26:11.640
<v Speaker 7>the sins you did in this life. But it's just

1595
01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:16.319
<v Speaker 7>not a temporary thing unless you are a haliciously evil person.

1596
01:26:16.880 --> 01:26:18.840
<v Speaker 6>Can I give you my evidence and why he would

1597
01:26:18.880 --> 01:26:19.399
<v Speaker 6>be inhale?

1598
01:26:19.920 --> 01:26:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god? Why not? Let's go there, Sam.

1599
01:26:23.239 --> 01:26:26.439
<v Speaker 6>He's a politician. You can't trust those sleazy bastards.

1600
01:26:27.640 --> 01:26:30.199
<v Speaker 2>I cannot refute that statement, sir.

1601
01:26:31.359 --> 01:26:33.359
<v Speaker 9>I also could could not refute.

1602
01:26:33.920 --> 01:26:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let it be known the Jewish correspondent agrees with

1603
01:26:37.079 --> 01:26:38.119
<v Speaker 1>at least that statement.

1604
01:26:38.199 --> 01:26:39.760
<v Speaker 2>As far as that. Now, who's concerned.

1605
01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>He's a politician, therefore a raging piece of ship, and.

1606
01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:51.399
<v Speaker 7>Untunately that goes and that that political statement goes get

1607
01:26:51.399 --> 01:26:53.439
<v Speaker 7>in there for almost every single politician.

1608
01:26:53.920 --> 01:27:01.479
<v Speaker 2>Not there's a few. There's a few, a very very small,

1609
01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:05.840
<v Speaker 2>small select few that I think maybe outside of the

1610
01:27:06.199 --> 01:27:09.279
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote stereotypical politician that we're talking about here.

1611
01:27:09.399 --> 01:27:10.119
<v Speaker 7>Mister Kennedy.

1612
01:27:12.119 --> 01:27:14.439
<v Speaker 2>Uh, we're talking about rfk Jr.

1613
01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:18.399
<v Speaker 7>No, I'm not like the old old gentleman you spoke about.

1614
01:27:18.880 --> 01:27:23.319
<v Speaker 5>I'm talking about the loved Senator Kennedy.

1615
01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Faceful yeah, yeah, that boy there, he's wild. I don't

1616
01:27:29.680 --> 01:27:31.840
<v Speaker 1>like every single thing he says, but dude, he's good

1617
01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>to these one liner is that one that was like, honestly,

1618
01:27:34.039 --> 01:27:37.079
<v Speaker 1>we need some new conspiracies out there because currently the

1619
01:27:37.079 --> 01:27:38.920
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theories are right about everything.

1620
01:27:38.920 --> 01:27:42.800
<v Speaker 2>They're thirty seven and O. It's like, yeah, yeah, next

1621
01:27:42.840 --> 01:27:44.520
<v Speaker 2>time somebody breaks in your house and you don't like

1622
01:27:44.560 --> 01:27:45.520
<v Speaker 2>the cops, call the.

1623
01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:50.680
<v Speaker 5>Crackhead like, my mama ain't raised no fool, and if

1624
01:27:50.720 --> 01:27:52.960
<v Speaker 5>she did, it's one of my brothers. And I'm like,

1625
01:27:53.640 --> 01:27:56.119
<v Speaker 5>I understand that that's older brother out there.

1626
01:27:56.159 --> 01:27:58.239
<v Speaker 2>I understand. I gotta be honest, dude.

1627
01:27:58.279 --> 01:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>He reminds me of so many old men that I

1628
01:28:00.920 --> 01:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>have worked on job sites with, with these one liners

1629
01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:05.479
<v Speaker 1>and their old ass turn of phrases like that, And

1630
01:28:05.479 --> 01:28:09.439
<v Speaker 1>it's just like, dude, you're not wrong, but the way

1631
01:28:09.439 --> 01:28:12.039
<v Speaker 1>you're saying it is way too funny for your age bracket.

1632
01:28:12.119 --> 01:28:15.119
<v Speaker 2>He reminds me of so many old dues from Louisiana.

1633
01:28:15.600 --> 01:28:19.079
<v Speaker 2>It's I like him overall. I like him, but yeah,

1634
01:28:19.119 --> 01:28:19.960
<v Speaker 2>so I don't know.

1635
01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's I don't know if he's

1636
01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:26.159
<v Speaker 1>ever accepted a PAC money or or Katari money or

1637
01:28:26.640 --> 01:28:29.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, big tobacco or big oil or whatever. I

1638
01:28:29.279 --> 01:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know anything about hit where his money has come from.

1639
01:28:32.920 --> 01:28:37.119
<v Speaker 1>But as of this particular moment, very very subject to change.

1640
01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:40.199
<v Speaker 2>My dad. I tend to get down with them, you know.

1641
01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:42.479
<v Speaker 1>And there's a few of these younger politicians that are

1642
01:28:42.479 --> 01:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>coming up that haven't been corrupted yet, even though they

1643
01:28:45.880 --> 01:28:49.319
<v Speaker 1>buy definition are now politicians, and it's like I'm holding

1644
01:28:49.359 --> 01:28:51.319
<v Speaker 1>on to hope. I'm holding on to hope that they

1645
01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>won't start accepting outside funds. Although with that being said,

1646
01:28:56.760 --> 01:28:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we also need to have this conversation.

1647
01:28:58.960 --> 01:29:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Y'all saw all Jake Paul which one's the younger brother?

1648
01:29:02.600 --> 01:29:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Is that Jake or Logan? Whatever one does the boxing,

1649
01:29:07.119 --> 01:29:09.680
<v Speaker 2>not the one that's associated with the rest. He's the

1650
01:29:09.680 --> 01:29:11.840
<v Speaker 2>one who guys all broken two places.

1651
01:29:12.079 --> 01:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that fuck? So he, I guess opened for Trump

1652
01:29:17.720 --> 01:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>in Kentucky. And as he got off stage, and you

1653
01:29:22.600 --> 01:29:25.479
<v Speaker 1>heard the people in Kentucky, they weren't like happy, they

1654
01:29:25.479 --> 01:29:28.319
<v Speaker 1>weren't like super like yay the Paul brothers here, they

1655
01:29:28.359 --> 01:29:31.079
<v Speaker 1>were kind of like sure cool, all right? And then

1656
01:29:31.119 --> 01:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Trump gets up on stage and says, I'm just I'm

1657
01:29:33.920 --> 01:29:36.359
<v Speaker 1>saying it now, I'm just gonna predict the future.

1658
01:29:36.399 --> 01:29:36.600
<v Speaker 7>Here.

1659
01:29:37.079 --> 01:29:40.279
<v Speaker 1>I see you running for the political realm within the

1660
01:29:40.399 --> 01:29:44.560
<v Speaker 1>United States of America, and the people were kind of like, yay,

1661
01:29:44.640 --> 01:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Like they weren't like cheering that on.

1662
01:29:47.520 --> 01:29:48.960
<v Speaker 2>They weren't scoffing either.

1663
01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>They were kind of like, I guess we're supposed to

1664
01:29:50.960 --> 01:29:54.479
<v Speaker 1>pause and applause at this time, all right, But like

1665
01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>y'all understand, we're getting into a timeframe where content creator

1666
01:30:01.279 --> 01:30:06.479
<v Speaker 1>and influencers have a decent shot at running for politics

1667
01:30:06.560 --> 01:30:09.439
<v Speaker 1>and getting elected in in places that are full of

1668
01:30:09.439 --> 01:30:13.079
<v Speaker 1>idiots like this, this is a real thing that we could,

1669
01:30:13.119 --> 01:30:15.960
<v Speaker 1>like the Paul brothers might run for some office in

1670
01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:20.359
<v Speaker 1>California and win in the next twenty years. It's possible

1671
01:30:20.359 --> 01:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>that one of the Paul brothers is like governor of California.

1672
01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Like this, this should terrify people, But at the same time,

1673
01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like, would they be doing a better or worse

1674
01:30:31.720 --> 01:30:34.239
<v Speaker 1>job than the politicians that are currently in because if

1675
01:30:34.239 --> 01:30:37.439
<v Speaker 1>they're already that wealthy, you would have to throw a

1676
01:30:37.640 --> 01:30:40.119
<v Speaker 1>large sum at them to buy them out to make

1677
01:30:40.159 --> 01:30:42.439
<v Speaker 1>them vote one way or another, you know what I mean.

1678
01:30:42.520 --> 01:30:45.880
<v Speaker 1>It's I've heard a couple of conversations be said on this, like,

1679
01:30:45.880 --> 01:30:47.359
<v Speaker 1>for instance, and I brought him up a few times,

1680
01:30:47.439 --> 01:30:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Herrera, I believe is about to win District twenty

1681
01:30:50.239 --> 01:30:51.119
<v Speaker 1>three in Texas.

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01:30:51.159 --> 01:30:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Super supporting of this, love him to death.

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01:30:53.359 --> 01:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>He is going to do great things for that district

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01:30:55.920 --> 01:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>and for Texas, and I fully believe that. But that's

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01:30:59.760 --> 01:31:03.439
<v Speaker 1>all so because his politics leans alongside my politics.

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01:31:03.920 --> 01:31:07.199
<v Speaker 2>But could y'all imagine real shit, just laying all cards on.

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01:31:07.119 --> 01:31:12.359
<v Speaker 1>The table here, mister beast could run for a political office,

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01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:16.279
<v Speaker 1>and with his funding, he could promote the fuck out

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01:31:16.279 --> 01:31:19.199
<v Speaker 1>of it, run all the TV ads, all the radio ads,

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01:31:19.279 --> 01:31:23.039
<v Speaker 1>all the billboard ads, whatever, and he stands a decent

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01:31:23.079 --> 01:31:27.239
<v Speaker 1>shot at winning whatever political realm he ever decided to

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01:31:27.279 --> 01:31:28.039
<v Speaker 1>get involved with.

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01:31:29.640 --> 01:31:34.720
<v Speaker 2>That's that's a bit terrifying, honestly. And I don't know.

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01:31:35.399 --> 01:31:38.399
<v Speaker 1>I've heard some people say, like I was saying, like no, no,

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01:31:38.920 --> 01:31:41.960
<v Speaker 1>super pac is gonna throw him a check for one

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01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:44.479
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars and make him vote their way because

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01:31:44.520 --> 01:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>he's mister fucking beast, Like you don't have, no group

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01:31:48.880 --> 01:31:52.239
<v Speaker 1>has the funds to, you know, get him to sway.

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01:31:53.079 --> 01:31:56.560
<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, that wouldn't stop them from trying.

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01:31:56.880 --> 01:31:59.479
<v Speaker 1>And then also if he's untouchable, that could mean he's

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01:31:59.479 --> 01:32:01.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty much a rogue agent in DC, and that'd be

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01:32:01.560 --> 01:32:05.319
<v Speaker 1>a whole other problem in and of itself. It's we

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01:32:05.520 --> 01:32:10.159
<v Speaker 1>very well might be stepping into weird, very strange, very

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01:32:10.199 --> 01:32:11.239
<v Speaker 1>scary times.

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01:32:12.039 --> 01:32:14.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm just throwing it out. It's food for thought.

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01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Sam, your hands raised, I don't know if it's

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01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:19.239
<v Speaker 1>you meant for it to be raised or if you

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01:32:19.279 --> 01:32:20.039
<v Speaker 1>got to put it down.

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01:32:21.640 --> 01:32:25.039
<v Speaker 7>At one point, I before he died, I thought Charlie.

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01:32:24.800 --> 01:32:27.840
<v Speaker 13>Would have been in the running for president at one point.

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01:32:28.159 --> 01:32:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, but even he's said for years he didn't

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01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:35.279
<v Speaker 1>want anything to do with running for politics. He liked

1713
01:32:35.279 --> 01:32:38.359
<v Speaker 1>speaking on it and like reaching the youth. Maybe one

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01:32:38.439 --> 01:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>day he would have changed his mind. But he, from

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01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:42.399
<v Speaker 1>what I could tell, had no intentions on it.

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01:32:43.319 --> 01:32:44.560
<v Speaker 7>No I'm saying is I.

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01:32:44.479 --> 01:32:46.399
<v Speaker 6>Could have seen him as one. I could have seen

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01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:47.680
<v Speaker 6>him do actually good.

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01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:51.640
<v Speaker 5>And I actually, whether you like the man or not,

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01:32:51.880 --> 01:32:54.199
<v Speaker 5>did you tanged everybody with respect?

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01:32:54.880 --> 01:32:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's true.

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01:32:56.199 --> 01:32:58.239
<v Speaker 1>But I mean and even the further that point, look

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01:32:58.239 --> 01:33:01.479
<v Speaker 1>at Cash Patel and Dan BONGI know these dudes are

1724
01:33:01.520 --> 01:33:05.399
<v Speaker 1>doing content creation. Yeah, well, bug eyed, fuck these dudes

1725
01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>are doing content before they became the head and second

1726
01:33:08.640 --> 01:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>in command of the FBI. Now granted that was an

1727
01:33:10.800 --> 01:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>appointed position, not a voted in a position, but like

1728
01:33:14.119 --> 01:33:17.279
<v Speaker 1>y'all see what I'm saying here, weirdly enough, influencer types

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01:33:17.319 --> 01:33:21.079
<v Speaker 1>and content creator types might start holding some very serious

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01:33:21.159 --> 01:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>sway in our local, state and federal politics.

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01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:29.119
<v Speaker 2>And that's unnerving. That's a little unnerving to me personally.

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01:33:29.159 --> 01:33:31.479
<v Speaker 1>I understand we all want to change, we all want

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01:33:31.479 --> 01:33:33.119
<v Speaker 1>to change in pace from what's been going on for

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01:33:33.159 --> 01:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the past few decades. I'm with that one hundred percent.

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01:33:35.720 --> 01:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I agree, but I don't know if that's the direction

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01:33:39.119 --> 01:33:43.600
<v Speaker 1>that we should be cheering for. I don't know Royce

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01:33:43.760 --> 01:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>way in here, brother.

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01:33:45.880 --> 01:33:49.159
<v Speaker 9>So I think it just depends on the individual sure,

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01:33:49.199 --> 01:33:52.680
<v Speaker 9>because the problem is with the whole Cash Metal and

1740
01:33:52.720 --> 01:33:56.439
<v Speaker 9>Dan Mongino thing, everybody was very very gong ho, the

1741
01:33:56.560 --> 01:34:00.680
<v Speaker 9>conspiracy community, other people in general, and then it just

1742
01:34:00.680 --> 01:34:04.079
<v Speaker 9>turned out to be a flop. So unfortunately, these first

1743
01:34:04.399 --> 01:34:10.359
<v Speaker 9>two that were more on the influencer type, they might

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01:34:10.399 --> 01:34:11.560
<v Speaker 9>have fucked it up for some people.

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01:34:12.960 --> 01:34:17.159
<v Speaker 1>It's possible, but then again, they were appointed there. They

1746
01:34:17.199 --> 01:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't get votes, So, like you know what I mean,

1747
01:34:20.039 --> 01:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>it's if the influencer types getting good with whatever the

1748
01:34:22.920 --> 01:34:25.239
<v Speaker 1>next president's gonna be. Yeah, he could appoint these people

1749
01:34:25.279 --> 01:34:27.920
<v Speaker 1>to whatever position, But then they could also leverage their

1750
01:34:27.960 --> 01:34:31.800
<v Speaker 1>experience in those ways to bolster a future political career

1751
01:34:31.880 --> 01:34:33.479
<v Speaker 1>if they decided to throw their name in the ring

1752
01:34:33.520 --> 01:34:37.039
<v Speaker 1>for the ballot. But another example is like Kanye West.

1753
01:34:37.720 --> 01:34:40.840
<v Speaker 1>He put himself down in the presidential run under the

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01:34:40.880 --> 01:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Birthday Party, either Republican or the Democrat or the Independent Party.

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01:34:44.800 --> 01:34:47.359
<v Speaker 2>The Birthday Party. He got thousands of votes.

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01:34:47.640 --> 01:34:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Now, granted it was like a fucking one percent, but

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01:34:51.800 --> 01:34:55.479
<v Speaker 1>beside the point, we are living in a world where

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01:34:55.560 --> 01:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>if enough people believed in Kanye's shit, we could be

1759
01:35:00.640 --> 01:35:03.399
<v Speaker 1>looking at President Kanye West right now.

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01:35:03.439 --> 01:35:07.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeesus himself. And that's also terrifying in a whole

1761
01:35:07.439 --> 01:35:10.359
<v Speaker 2>other regard, y'all see what I'm saying. I don't know,

1762
01:35:10.399 --> 01:35:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm just maybe I'm just being a little bit

1763
01:35:12.600 --> 01:35:15.520
<v Speaker 2>of a hair brain conspiracy theorist here, But that's I

1764
01:35:15.600 --> 01:35:18.840
<v Speaker 2>keep in mind. Look at Ukraine Zelenski was an actor.

1765
01:35:19.520 --> 01:35:22.359
<v Speaker 1>He had no background in politics whatsoever except he played

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01:35:22.399 --> 01:35:24.279
<v Speaker 1>one on TV and he won the election. Now, we

1767
01:35:24.319 --> 01:35:26.279
<v Speaker 1>could also talk about rigged elections and all these things.

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01:35:26.399 --> 01:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm with, I get it, I'm here, But could y'all

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01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:33.359
<v Speaker 1>imagine a world where that becomes America? The Rock Dwayne

1770
01:35:33.439 --> 01:35:35.479
<v Speaker 1>Johnson was talking about running for president a couple of

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01:35:35.560 --> 01:35:37.720
<v Speaker 1>years ago, and some people were like, oh my god,

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01:35:37.760 --> 01:35:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I hope he does. It's like, why do you have

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01:35:40.880 --> 01:35:43.640
<v Speaker 1>any idea what his politics are? Do you have any

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01:35:43.640 --> 01:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>idea what his views on gun rights or you know,

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01:35:47.760 --> 01:35:49.800
<v Speaker 1>foreign relations or taxation.

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01:35:49.960 --> 01:35:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Do you have any idea where he's coming from on

1777
01:35:51.880 --> 01:35:53.840
<v Speaker 2>these fronts or are you doing that because he plays

1778
01:35:53.880 --> 01:35:57.079
<v Speaker 2>a good character on TV and.

1779
01:35:57.239 --> 01:36:00.640
<v Speaker 7>Ady went, didn't we have a president that was an actor?

1780
01:36:00.920 --> 01:36:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Reagan?

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01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:05.159
<v Speaker 1>But when we say actor, he was like he was

1782
01:36:05.199 --> 01:36:08.159
<v Speaker 1>a be if not seasier actor at that his one

1783
01:36:08.600 --> 01:36:11.239
<v Speaker 1>his one role was as the Gipper in that one

1784
01:36:11.359 --> 01:36:13.600
<v Speaker 1>movie like and he he acted with a chimp at

1785
01:36:13.600 --> 01:36:16.479
<v Speaker 1>one point in time, Like he was a definite Hollywood actor.

1786
01:36:16.479 --> 01:36:17.279
<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't.

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01:36:17.399 --> 01:36:20.479
<v Speaker 1>This wasn't the same as like to say, you know,

1788
01:36:20.960 --> 01:36:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Bradley Cooper running for president right now?

1789
01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Like that was We're talking different levels of fame and success,

1790
01:36:26.960 --> 01:36:27.520
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

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01:36:29.119 --> 01:36:32.119
<v Speaker 7>My point was just that we that we've had when

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01:36:32.239 --> 01:36:35.920
<v Speaker 7>not the level of stardom he achieved.

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01:36:36.680 --> 01:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he also ran off of what his beliefs were.

1794
01:36:38.960 --> 01:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, he had the name recognition from his time

1795
01:36:41.079 --> 01:36:43.840
<v Speaker 1>on TV, don't get me wrong. But he was also

1796
01:36:44.039 --> 01:36:46.800
<v Speaker 1>very big with the Second Amendment. He was very big

1797
01:36:46.840 --> 01:36:49.479
<v Speaker 1>with America getting involved in a lot of military things,

1798
01:36:49.479 --> 01:36:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the Iran Contra affair, operation star Wars.

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01:36:53.039 --> 01:36:54.520
<v Speaker 2>I bring that up a lot because it's still so

1800
01:36:54.600 --> 01:36:55.399
<v Speaker 2>fucking funny to me.

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01:36:55.880 --> 01:36:59.279
<v Speaker 1>But like he he wasn't what you would expect to

1802
01:36:59.279 --> 01:37:01.680
<v Speaker 1>come out of Hollywood, that's for damn sure.

1803
01:37:03.359 --> 01:37:03.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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01:37:03.880 --> 01:37:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's possible, maybe we would have some actor get

1805
01:37:06.560 --> 01:37:09.000
<v Speaker 1>into the presidency and actually do a really good job

1806
01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:11.720
<v Speaker 1>with the hell Arnold Schwarzenegger, if I'm not mistaken. When

1807
01:37:11.760 --> 01:37:15.039
<v Speaker 1>he was governor of California, they were doing pretty well

1808
01:37:15.399 --> 01:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>while he was in I don't remember the numbers. I

1809
01:37:17.640 --> 01:37:20.760
<v Speaker 1>remember for the first few years it was pretty solid.

1810
01:37:20.800 --> 01:37:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Towards the tail end, I think he pretty much said

1811
01:37:22.600 --> 01:37:26.159
<v Speaker 1>fuck it. I don't know, I don't remember, but all right,

1812
01:37:26.159 --> 01:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>North Trucker had his hand up first. What's your thoughts?

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01:37:31.159 --> 01:37:34.880
<v Speaker 13>Do you guys already have an actor as a president.

1814
01:37:35.720 --> 01:37:40.600
<v Speaker 12>Trump's been in many of films he's been in The Apprentice,

1815
01:37:41.079 --> 01:37:42.520
<v Speaker 12>he owned that show.

1816
01:37:44.359 --> 01:37:47.680
<v Speaker 13>He is an actor, he could be still acting.

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01:37:48.600 --> 01:37:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I can't disagree with this claim. I cannot

1818
01:37:51.920 --> 01:37:56.960
<v Speaker 2>disagree with that. Yeah, damn. And then also, you were

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01:37:57.000 --> 01:37:59.640
<v Speaker 2>shaking your head whenever I brought up Schwarzenegger in California.

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01:38:00.039 --> 01:38:00.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really pay attention to a lot of his

1822
01:38:01.920 --> 01:38:04.319
<v Speaker 1>time in office. But did he not do well?

1823
01:38:06.439 --> 01:38:08.600
<v Speaker 13>I believe he actually did well.

1824
01:38:09.479 --> 01:38:15.239
<v Speaker 12>The unemployment rate in California at the time. I do

1825
01:38:15.399 --> 01:38:20.159
<v Speaker 12>believe when drastically down, everything started going well.

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01:38:20.760 --> 01:38:21.880
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think.

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01:38:21.720 --> 01:38:25.239
<v Speaker 1>So, I thought so, But Sam, you're over you're shaking

1828
01:38:25.279 --> 01:38:27.079
<v Speaker 1>your head? No, what what weigh in on this?

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01:38:28.840 --> 01:38:31.399
<v Speaker 6>Like, I like him as a terminator and all that.

1830
01:38:31.399 --> 01:38:32.960
<v Speaker 6>Asn't acted great well.

1831
01:38:33.039 --> 01:38:35.680
<v Speaker 5>It's during the height of COVID he said that, hell,

1832
01:38:35.680 --> 01:38:38.279
<v Speaker 5>would your freetom get the damn jab.

1833
01:38:38.560 --> 01:38:41.359
<v Speaker 2>That was after he was out of the governorship, I know,

1834
01:38:41.479 --> 01:38:44.640
<v Speaker 2>but at that point, I'm like, I'm.

1835
01:38:46.399 --> 01:38:48.319
<v Speaker 6>To get to hell with your freedoms?

1836
01:38:49.079 --> 01:38:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Right?

1837
01:38:49.319 --> 01:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, I'm talking about while he was the governor.

1838
01:38:52.079 --> 01:38:56.359
<v Speaker 1>I thought, again, if there's any listeners of this program

1839
01:38:56.439 --> 01:39:00.880
<v Speaker 1>that were in California under the time frame where Schwarzenegro

1840
01:39:00.960 --> 01:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>is running the state. I would love to hear y'all

1841
01:39:02.720 --> 01:39:06.239
<v Speaker 1>weigh in in the comments section. Honestly, me, living in Louisiana,

1842
01:39:06.279 --> 01:39:12.159
<v Speaker 1>I look at California like, well, not all the big

1843
01:39:12.239 --> 01:39:14.800
<v Speaker 1>cities of California as the epitome of a shit stain

1844
01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:19.520
<v Speaker 1>on America, but the country folk in California are some

1845
01:39:19.840 --> 01:39:22.399
<v Speaker 1>very good salt of the earth people. I'll put that there.

1846
01:39:22.439 --> 01:39:25.960
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

1847
01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:28.800
<v Speaker 1>We've had some actors and some Hollywood types get into

1848
01:39:28.880 --> 01:39:32.399
<v Speaker 1>political offices before, but never to the realm of like

1849
01:39:32.479 --> 01:39:34.680
<v Speaker 1>independent content creators from the youtubes.

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01:39:35.880 --> 01:39:37.319
<v Speaker 2>That's going to be a weird twist.

1851
01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:40.399
<v Speaker 3>I lived in California. I think he was governor from

1852
01:39:40.680 --> 01:39:43.439
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and two to two thousand and nine or something.

1853
01:39:43.720 --> 01:39:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:47.239
<v Speaker 3>What I vaguely remember, because I come from a Republican family,

1855
01:39:47.359 --> 01:39:49.640
<v Speaker 3>is that the first term was pretty good. The second

1856
01:39:49.720 --> 01:39:52.560
<v Speaker 3>term he threw up his hands and gave up, okaycause

1857
01:39:52.600 --> 01:39:54.840
<v Speaker 3>the Democrats were going to spend whatever they're going to spend.

1858
01:39:55.000 --> 01:40:02.079
<v Speaker 3>He was pretty fiscally conservative, socially more liberal. Uh. I

1859
01:40:02.119 --> 01:40:03.680
<v Speaker 3>think he was all right. He was the best we

1860
01:40:03.720 --> 01:40:04.880
<v Speaker 3>could do at that time.

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01:40:06.039 --> 01:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would agree with that, and I think that

1862
01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:09.920
<v Speaker 1>was actually even what he said on the campaign trail.

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01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Someone asked him, you know, are you Republican or Democrat?

1864
01:40:13.840 --> 01:40:16.840
<v Speaker 1>And he said he is, Ah, what was the term

1865
01:40:16.880 --> 01:40:20.479
<v Speaker 1>he used, He's financially conservative. Yeah, he ran a Republican,

1866
01:40:20.520 --> 01:40:22.880
<v Speaker 1>but like when asked about his policies and stuff, he

1867
01:40:22.880 --> 01:40:25.399
<v Speaker 1>said that he was like financially conservative, and he like

1868
01:40:25.560 --> 01:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>left it at that. But yeah, yeah, I thought so too.

1869
01:40:29.880 --> 01:40:32.199
<v Speaker 1>I thought his first term went okay. I'm might have

1870
01:40:32.199 --> 01:40:35.239
<v Speaker 1>to look more deeply into his time in office, honestly, but.

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01:40:35.279 --> 01:40:37.319
<v Speaker 2>As we're talking about all these things, you might all

1872
01:40:37.439 --> 01:40:41.960
<v Speaker 2>end on this positive note, well positive, negative, neutral, you'd

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01:40:41.960 --> 01:40:46.319
<v Speaker 2>be the judge unanimous vote in risk assessment clears way

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01:40:46.399 --> 01:40:51.000
<v Speaker 2>for four astronauts to launch on Moon mission. Yes, Ravenly

1875
01:40:51.039 --> 01:40:51.840
<v Speaker 2>had brought this up.

1876
01:40:52.039 --> 01:40:53.560
<v Speaker 1>So I want to do a little more deep diving

1877
01:40:53.600 --> 01:40:56.119
<v Speaker 1>into this because I truly believe that the Artemist too

1878
01:40:56.159 --> 01:40:56.760
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to.

1879
01:40:56.720 --> 01:40:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Land on the Moon, and I was wrong.

1880
01:40:58.840 --> 01:41:01.039
<v Speaker 1>Apparently it's supposed to sling shot its ass to the

1881
01:41:01.119 --> 01:41:03.880
<v Speaker 1>dark side, and they kept kicking the can down the road.

1882
01:41:03.880 --> 01:41:06.000
<v Speaker 1>They're saying, Oh, we're gonna do it next month. Next month,

1883
01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the next month, I still have it on the cult

1884
01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:10.119
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy being a card that this rocket is not gonna

1885
01:41:10.119 --> 01:41:13.159
<v Speaker 1>take off. I still don't think it's going to I

1886
01:41:13.199 --> 01:41:16.760
<v Speaker 1>think they're gonna keep, you know, doing the little dance,

1887
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<v Speaker 1>doing the little tippy tap dance, and get to everybody

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<v Speaker 1>really excited, and just not even do it and say

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<v Speaker 1>that some system program failed and they're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>re engineered or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Let's talk about it here.

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<v Speaker 1>So NASA has finished a crucial risk assessment out of

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<v Speaker 1>its head of its upcoming.

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<v Speaker 2>Lunar fly by mission.

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<v Speaker 1>God words are hard for me right now, and during

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<v Speaker 1>a news conference Thursday, the agency revealed a new target

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<v Speaker 1>launch date and discussed how officials evaluated the dangers the

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<v Speaker 1>missions for person crew will face.

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<v Speaker 2>The agency is now aiming to launch the.

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<v Speaker 1>Historic mission called Artemis two on April first, as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as six twenty four pm Eastern time. In the event

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<v Speaker 1>of a delay, there are six additional windows for liftoff

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<v Speaker 1>next month April second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and thirtieth.

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<v Speaker 1>The assessment, known as Flight Readiness Review or FRR, took

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<v Speaker 1>place over two days this week and is crucial. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a crucial step toward liftoff, in which mission

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<v Speaker 1>managers convene to determine whether the rocket, spacecraft, and ground

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<v Speaker 1>systems are ready for launch.

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<v Speaker 2>However, John Honeycutt, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Chair of Artemis two mission management team, did not share

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<v Speaker 1>a specific quantitative risk estimate for this rocket and spacecraft.

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<v Speaker 1>Figures that characterize the probation probability of quote unquote loss

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<v Speaker 1>of mission or quote unquote loss of crew are two

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<v Speaker 1>pieces of data the agency shared with the public in

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<v Speaker 1>the Space Shuttle era, and similar analysis have been offered

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<v Speaker 1>from many missions since.

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<v Speaker 6>Before.

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<v Speaker 1>An uncrewed test flight called Artemis one in twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>NASA assess that there was a one in one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty five chance that the Orion spacecraft, the same

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<v Speaker 1>type of vehicle that will carry the Artist two crew.

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<v Speaker 2>Would be lost.

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<v Speaker 1>So a one out of one twenty five shot, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's decent odds.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd you know, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Really bad at gambling, but I would take that. I

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<v Speaker 1>would take that bet. You know that everything's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a light. Continuing on it says, I know we have

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<v Speaker 1>pursued loss of mission and loss of crew type number assessments,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not sure we understand what they mean in reality,

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<v Speaker 1>Honeycut said, explaining such figures typically involve guesswork, well, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, duh.

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<v Speaker 1>Honeycut noted that because Artemis two will mark only the

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<v Speaker 1>second ever flight of NASA Space Launch System rocket, there

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<v Speaker 1>isn't much data to go on in calculating such a.

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<v Speaker 2>Figure for this flight.

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<v Speaker 1>Direct quote here, we're probably not one in fifty on

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<v Speaker 1>the mission going exactly like we want to, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>probably not one in two like we were on the

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<v Speaker 1>first flight. You had a one in two shot of

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<v Speaker 1>something going horribly wrong the first time. I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>those odds at all. All Holy shit, one in fifty

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<v Speaker 1>is still a little too close.

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<v Speaker 2>From a comfort here.

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<v Speaker 1>But all right, a Honeycut said of the SLS rocket,

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<v Speaker 1>which boosts the O'Ryan capsule to orbit the right quote again,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, I think we're being really careful not to

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<v Speaker 1>really lay probabilistic probabilistic numbers on the table for this mission. Wow, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know again, this might be just my conspiratorial brain

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<v Speaker 1>going crazy here.

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<v Speaker 2>What other shot?

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<v Speaker 1>What are the chances here that we have another situation

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<v Speaker 1>like the Discovery where it blows up in the sky,

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<v Speaker 1>and it gets everybody's attention looking there rather than what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in Iran or what's going on with the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein list, or the fact that all these people that

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<v Speaker 1>were on that list are still in their positions and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's being arrested. This could be some sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>catastrophe that they engineer for that purpose. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I could see it yours truck or what your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, and then we'll find out all the astronauts twenty

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<v Speaker 12>years later still alive yep, like on the Discovery.

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<v Speaker 1>All working in colleges and all these things, and one

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<v Speaker 1>of them just happened to have a twin brother that

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<v Speaker 1>nobody knew about until twenty years later. And yeah, yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm not trying to prophesy on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I got I don't hope. I hope that that doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But also especially with the way that things are going

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<v Speaker 2>right now and how they're like.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this is launching, It's like here, y'all a little

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01:45:36.239 --> 01:45:38.960
<v Speaker 1>too a little too angsty on why this needs to

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<v Speaker 1>go up?

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<v Speaker 2>But all right, and why.

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<v Speaker 12>Is it leaving on April fools? Bro right, right, right,

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<v Speaker 12>that's oh yeah, we're launching all it starts launching and

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<v Speaker 12>everything like that. Say it blows up, Oh yeah, blah right,

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<v Speaker 12>April fool.

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<v Speaker 7>We've never been made it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fucking hot, damn.

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<v Speaker 1>And I already see on the bingo card I put

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<v Speaker 1>down that it won't launch. I didn't say that it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't go according to plan. I should have worded that better.

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<v Speaker 1>I should have left it a little more open in

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<v Speaker 1>it so I could have got that space made. But

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<v Speaker 1>damn it, we'll see, we'll see continuing on here. Lori Glaze,

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<v Speaker 1>NASA's acting Associate Administrator for the Exploration System Development Mission Directorate. God, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a mouthful, said I wouldn't actually put a number

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<v Speaker 1>on it. An incredible amount of work has gone into

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<v Speaker 1>preparing for this test flight, by thousands of people across

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<v Speaker 1>our integrated teams. We had extremely thorough discussions, very open, transparent.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked a lot about our risk posture and how

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<v Speaker 1>we're mitigating those risks. Glaze noted that the four Artemis

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<v Speaker 1>crew members, NASA's reed wiseman Victor Glover and Christina Cooke,

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<v Speaker 1>and Canadian Space Agency astronaut Jeremy Hanson joined the fr

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<v Speaker 1>are virtually from their home base in Houston, Texas. Having

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<v Speaker 1>them join us in this review really reinforce the importance

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<v Speaker 1>of having open, honest discussions, she added, So all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see, we will see if this is actually gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take place or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm I have hope, but I also

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at things just for what they are. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're not I have more things pulled up here,

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<v Speaker 1>but we are getting close to that two hour mark.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, we could talk about this in for

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<v Speaker 1>a second, because I also thought this was cool as fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>The US Navy restarts rail gun firing trials in New Mexico. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the Navy has railguns, which we've known about for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about them before for years and years. This

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<v Speaker 1>was seen as like some sort of a sci fi

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<v Speaker 1>you know, technology that we don't actually have, but some

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<v Speaker 1>scientists somewhere in dark was probably working on. No, this

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01:47:58.239 --> 01:48:01.119
<v Speaker 1>is for real, and the Navy is absolutely test firing

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<v Speaker 1>them again, meaning they already knew that they existed and

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<v Speaker 1>had them accurately test fired at one point in time.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's read a little bit about this one here.

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<v Speaker 1>The United States Navy resumed testing its electromagnetic railgun weapons

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<v Speaker 1>system in February of twenty twenty five at the White

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<v Speaker 1>Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. According to a recent

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<v Speaker 1>review published by Naval c Systems Command, the renewed testing

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<v Speaker 1>effort comes after the railgun program had largely been paused

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<v Speaker 1>for several years due to budget constraints and shifting development priorities.

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<v Speaker 1>The February trials were intended to gather technical data needed

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<v Speaker 1>to evaluate the weapons performance under control conditions. According to

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<v Speaker 1>the information published in the review, the testing was conducted

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<v Speaker 1>during a three day campaign in February at the White

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<v Speaker 1>Sands Missile Range. WSD tested a railgun to collect critical

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<v Speaker 1>information about high velocity firing during a three day campaign

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<v Speaker 1>at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. Testing in

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<v Speaker 1>February was a joint effort between WSD and NSWC dog

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<v Speaker 1>Dahlgren in Virginia and conducted for Naval C System Command

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<v Speaker 1>Joint Hypersonics Transition Office. That's a direct quote here. The

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<v Speaker 1>statement indicates that the trials were carried out by WSD.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said that a few times, working together with the

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<v Speaker 1>Naval Surface Warfare Center. The efforts was conducted on behalf

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<v Speaker 1>of the joint. Okay, they literally just reiterated the direct

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<v Speaker 1>quote and then retyped it out. Holy shit, that's only

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<v Speaker 1>hot takes here from this publication. Who is this publication?

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<v Speaker 1>Before I say that, defenseblog dot com. Yeah, electromagnetic railguns

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<v Speaker 1>use powerful electrical currents to create magnetic fields that accelerate

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<v Speaker 1>solid metal projectiles to extremely high speeds. Unlike traditional artillery systems,

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<v Speaker 1>the railgun launches projectiles without using chemical propellants.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't know how many of y'all have.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever seen the videos on YouTube of how to make

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<v Speaker 1>your own railgun at home. They're not that difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>make and they look fun as hell. So I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of having a fire off some sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a rocket with a propulsion system, or even a mortar

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<v Speaker 1>that has like the explosives to send it off, think

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<v Speaker 1>of a bullet. Think of a bullet that's able to

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<v Speaker 1>fire with no gunpowder. That's essentially what we're talking about here,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's fucking cool. I'm sorry, I think it's

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01:50:18.359 --> 01:50:23.239
<v Speaker 1>cool as hell. Instead, the weapon relies on electro electrical

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<v Speaker 1>energy stored incapacitors that is released through conductive rails. When

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<v Speaker 1>the current passes through the rails, it creates electromagnetic forces

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<v Speaker 1>that propel the projectile toward forward at very high velocity.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the projectile does not contained explosives, the weapon relies

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<v Speaker 1>on kinetic energy generated by its speed to damage the target.

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<v Speaker 1>At extreme velocities, the impact energy alone could be enough

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<v Speaker 1>to destroy or disabled targets.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, That's why I like the Rods of God is

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation about, like dropping these giant tungsten rods from space.

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<v Speaker 1>The kinetic force from that alone, would they estimate do

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<v Speaker 1>more than like a seven pounds jade am which is

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<v Speaker 1>impressed of because the projectiles I said that.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>The railgun concept attracted attention while the US Navy during

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<v Speaker 1>the early two thousands as a potential long range naval

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<v Speaker 1>weapon capable of striking targets at distances far beyond conventional

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<v Speaker 1>naval guns. Research into technology formally began in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and five under the Office of Naval Research, which funded

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<v Speaker 1>early experimental systems designed to demonstrate the feasibility of electromagnetic

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<v Speaker 1>launch technology. Over the following years, the railgun program encountered

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<v Speaker 1>multiple engineering and funding challenges. Clearly, it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>power and that takes a lot of money. Development efforts

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<v Speaker 1>were repeatedly paused or reduced as the Navy evaluated competing

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<v Speaker 1>modernization priorities and technical hurdles. The Navy tested at least

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<v Speaker 1>two railgun prototypes during the earlier phases of the program.

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<v Speaker 1>One design was developed by BAE Systems, while another prototype

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<v Speaker 1>was produced by General Atomics.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course it was both systems used the same fundamental.

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<v Speaker 1>Principle of electromagnetic launch, accelerating solid projectiles using that neetic

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<v Speaker 1>forces generated by powerful electrical currents. The BAE system prototype

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<v Speaker 1>served as the primary system used in early or Navy

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<v Speaker 1>research development experiments. Testing during those two years or excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>testing during those years focused on measuring projectile velocity, barrel wear,

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<v Speaker 1>and power requirements, and of course accuracy. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say how long this video is. If they could show

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<v Speaker 1>us firing it, that'd be dope.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's only a minute. Yeah, let's watch.

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<v Speaker 1>This does not appear to have any sound, So for

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<v Speaker 1>anybody who wants to see what we're talking about here,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to go to patreon dot com slash cajun

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<v Speaker 1>Night and join today but this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>rail guns that they are test firing in New Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>right now, which I mean, to be honest, it just

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a really big cannon. But are think I

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<v Speaker 1>to show it. That sucks that there's no volume in

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<v Speaker 1>this Okay, I mean, it's not like these things are

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<v Speaker 1>allowed when they go off either, so it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do much. But ye other see it powering up, powering up,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's getting closer to shooting.

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<v Speaker 2>Kayo. Shit. I actually think that probably did have some

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<v Speaker 2>sound to it too. That sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>This video doesn't have any, but that's still impressive. And

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<v Speaker 1>they are back test firing these fuckers. And I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>some say that there are some naval ships that are

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<v Speaker 1>equipped with these railguns. I'd be lying if I told

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<v Speaker 1>you which ones, but even still, it would have to

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<v Speaker 1>be like a nuclear powered one. They're the only ones

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<v Speaker 1>that I could think of that would have the energy

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<v Speaker 1>storage capabilities to use this more than just a few shots.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's still interesting as hell. Holy shit.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the main technical challenges associated with railgun weapons

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<v Speaker 1>is extreme stress placed on the launch rails during the firing.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see that the high electrical currents and intense

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<v Speaker 1>heat generator during each shot can rapidly wear down the

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<v Speaker 1>system components.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, for sure, I could see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Another challenge involves generating and managing the large amounts of

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<v Speaker 1>electrical power required to operate the weapon. Railguns require electrical

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<v Speaker 1>systems capable of delivering rapid bursts of energy, far beyond

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<v Speaker 1>what conventional naval artillery requires. Of course, because of these challenges,

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<v Speaker 1>the program experienced several pauses while engineers work to address

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<v Speaker 1>technical issues and budget considerations. At the same time, other

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<v Speaker 1>countries have continued pursuing their own railgun development programs. Reports

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<v Speaker 1>indicate that both China and Japan have conducted experiments with

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<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic launch weapons. Japan has began deploying an early railgun

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<v Speaker 1>prototype on a naval vessel for further testing, while China

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<v Speaker 1>has reportedly modified several ships to support trials of similar

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<v Speaker 1>systems designed to evaluate the technology at sea.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just so cool. That's fucking cool.

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<v Speaker 1>This is on sacram now as a Japanese ship mounted

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<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic railgun. Photo courtesy of the JMSDF.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, y'all, we got a lot going on. We

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot going on in this world right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We got technology going all over the place, politics are

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<v Speaker 1>going all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought it was gonna be cool to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about these things on this episode. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's as good as spot as any to wrap

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<v Speaker 1>this up. I know there's a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 1>I had pulled up that we didn't get to tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>But honestly, I had enough to make this a three

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<v Speaker 1>hour episode pretty easily, and I didn't. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. You know, let's keep it low key.

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<v Speaker 1>If we don't get to it this week, we can

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<v Speaker 1>get to it next week. If more wild shit doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>pop off, we gotta talk about, which I'm sure it will.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, for all the members of the Cajun Night retinue,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you all for coming out this

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<v Speaker 1>evening and being a part of this once again, to

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<v Speaker 1>give the shameless plug. If any of the listeners of

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<v Speaker 1>the Cajun Night would like to be a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation every Wednesday night at nine pm Central, go

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<v Speaker 1>to link of the description below to patreon dot com

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<v Speaker 1>slash Cajun Night and enjoining.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only one tier for entry.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just five dollars and We're just trying to join

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<v Speaker 1>in to make this its own collective group of information

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<v Speaker 1>sharing individuals that give a fuck about the world around

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<v Speaker 1>in the history and sometimes a religious conversation and all

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<v Speaker 1>the things. I thoroughly enjoy my Wednesday nights with the group,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that all of the members of the

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<v Speaker 1>Retinue do as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So, like I said, go to the link of the description.

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<v Speaker 2>Joined today. We will see you all next Wednesday Night.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, everybody, I am the Cajun Night and God

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<v Speaker 1>bless
