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<v Speaker 1>Do you know if in the past, either either while

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<v Speaker 1>you were married or how long have you been married?

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty four years?

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<v Speaker 3>Shut up? Are you serious?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know if your husband and I'm not doing

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<v Speaker 1>this to be dirty, do you know if your husband

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<v Speaker 1>ever No, no, no, bear with me. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>if your husband ever donated sperm?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know for certain, but I guess i'd be

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<v Speaker 2>a little surprised we never had that conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>You would be surprised because you don't think he's the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of person that wants to help other people.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly, not in that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Will you find me?

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<v Speaker 1>Will you find me somebody who is donated sperm or

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<v Speaker 1>and even if it's their even if it's their their

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<v Speaker 1>wife or whatever, that's fine. I need somebody who has

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<v Speaker 1>donated sperm, please, And it doesn't matter how long ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>But I need you too, And for any reason. You

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<v Speaker 1>can tell me you donated sperm for beer money. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care, but I need somebody who has donated sperm,

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<v Speaker 1>or the spouse of somebody who has donated sperm.

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<v Speaker 6>So you almost frame it like it could be a job.

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<v Speaker 6>The what do you mean when you said donate it

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<v Speaker 6>for money.

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<v Speaker 3>The oh yeah, no, well, I mean you look at.

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<v Speaker 7>It, a nice supplemental income.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure, don't even need two weeks for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Plenty of that going on, all right, eight six six

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<v Speaker 1>to Elliott eight six six two three five five four

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<v Speaker 1>six eight. Again, I need somebody who at any point

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<v Speaker 1>ever has donated uh their sperm atozoa.

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<v Speaker 3>Please.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, while I'm getting that, just looking forward, Tomorrow's Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>Tomorrow is free beer Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>So anytime you win anything any Friday all summer long,

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<v Speaker 1>leading all the way up to Labor Day, you get

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<v Speaker 1>yourself a case of beer from Lon Oak Farm Brewing Company.

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<v Speaker 1>So again tomorrow, early in the show, right around six twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll give away three eleven tickets.

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<v Speaker 3>You get your three eleven tickets.

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<v Speaker 1>You also get yourself a case of beer from Lon

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<v Speaker 1>Oak Farm Brewing Company.

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<v Speaker 3>Same thing when we get to dirt carseat head rest.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, if you need any info on anything, Facebook X, Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>at em online.

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<v Speaker 6>If we would have played our little game tomorrow, would

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<v Speaker 6>Diane have fun a case of beer?

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<v Speaker 7>Where's my case?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? You know what, because I'm a good winner, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I would have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I would have asked Melissa, just one little glass

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<v Speaker 1>is fine?

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<v Speaker 3>All right? Where am I going? Line six? Hi Ellie

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<v Speaker 3>in the morning. Hey, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Dude?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh?

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<v Speaker 9>You know donating a little sperm here and there?

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<v Speaker 3>How long ago did you donate? I want to say

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<v Speaker 3>it's been about four years. And were you donating just

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<v Speaker 3>like for beer money or whatever?

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<v Speaker 9>No, No, it was personal reasons.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a vasectomy a bunch of years ago and

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<v Speaker 4>have since remarried and my now wife we were thinking

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<v Speaker 4>about trying to have baby, and really the only way

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<v Speaker 4>to do it, kind of sure fire, was to go

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<v Speaker 4>the IVY route and sorry.

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<v Speaker 9>Not iv what's they called IVF IVS? Thank you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, And so that required that I be knocked out

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<v Speaker 4>and they do an extraction and kind of do the

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<v Speaker 4>insemination that way.

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<v Speaker 1>So but wait a minute, So you have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>donated sperm to a sperm bank?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh? No, sorry in that sense, now I have not.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so was I am I gonna get a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of people? No, no, no offense.

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<v Speaker 3>I I f'd up. That's on me.

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<v Speaker 1>But like when I said donate sperm a thank you, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, that's on me.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my You were very helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I need to be more specific, because is that

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<v Speaker 1>donating sperm?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mean to somebody, Well I do to a stranger, right,

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<v Speaker 3>what is the sperm extraction?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean they put them out?

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<v Speaker 3>I heard that part.

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<v Speaker 1>I got an idea, give me a flashlight. You can

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<v Speaker 1>get it that way too. Do you have any other ideas?

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<v Speaker 1>The I'm just reason in.

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<v Speaker 6>Magazines from earlier for sales working towards my degree.

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<v Speaker 1>The no, no, but I need, I need, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>a sperm bank. Where am I going, Kristen, I'm one

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Ellie.

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<v Speaker 3>In the morning.

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<v Speaker 9>Hey, good morning, Elliott.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey who's this this is?

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<v Speaker 4>And?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Andy? Have you donated sperm? I'm the opposite. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>I am the product of a donation.

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<v Speaker 5>My my dad couldn't have kids and my mom hit up.

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<v Speaker 3>A bank, did she really?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever okay, no, you know what? No, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no no. But now, but you know what, do you

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<v Speaker 1>do you ever consider doing it as a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a way to pay it forward, like with if some

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<v Speaker 1>other guy didn't go in there, you're you don't exist.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah that's true.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I have two kids of my own, so

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like I've done my part at this point,

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<v Speaker 6>but I think it's a fair question.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's so, here's here's what I was reading. Right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>follow follow me on this, follow me on this. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's this guy and he has he has kids. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he used to donate back up, Elliott, let's go one.

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<v Speaker 3>What dude, We'll call him mister X.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, mister X has hold on one Second's very loud.

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<v Speaker 1>It just got loud where you are. Mister X has

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<v Speaker 1>two kids. He grew up very friendly with mister Y.

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<v Speaker 1>The two of them were friends for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>So mister Y knows. Like, back when they were younger,

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<v Speaker 1>mister X donated sperm to a sperm bank. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know for what reason, but he did.

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<v Speaker 1>Fast forward, mister X gets married, He has a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of kids. They are now teenagers, like older teenagers. Mister

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<v Speaker 1>X dies all right, mister why knows that mister X

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<v Speaker 1>never told his kids that he had been a sperm

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<v Speaker 1>donor back in the day. He wants to tell the

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<v Speaker 1>kids that their dad.

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<v Speaker 3>Used to be a sperm donor.

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<v Speaker 7>Why, yeah, siblings, Oh so they can do the twenty

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<v Speaker 7>three memes?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, not not so they can. But if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else does and comes forward and it's not we're a.

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<v Speaker 3>Match, we're related.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're the kids, the first thing you think is,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, mom's bang. Somebody don't do it. Mister

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<v Speaker 1>X didn't want his kids to know.

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<v Speaker 7>But now mister why is going to take it upon

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<v Speaker 7>himself to tell him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he was emphatic, like whatever, on my

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<v Speaker 1>on my deathbed, don't tell them.

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<v Speaker 6>But he just think it's important that they know. I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't even know you were going to say that part.

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<v Speaker 6>If that was his wish, they do, so, then you

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<v Speaker 6>don't do that. But even without that, why would you

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<v Speaker 6>bring this up?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>No, because like but that that's what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't This is a peculiar scenario. But if you're

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<v Speaker 1>just a regular run of the mill donor and you

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<v Speaker 1>did it when you were younger or even as you

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<v Speaker 1>were older, it doesn't matter. And you have kids, do

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<v Speaker 1>you tell them that you don't?

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<v Speaker 6>It's your choice. It's not your friend's decision whether or

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<v Speaker 6>not to tell GA.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, But just in general, take the friend

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<v Speaker 3>out of it. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's like, let's say, let's say early early

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<v Speaker 1>in the marriage, you and you're still donating sperm, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you and lindsay you have a couple of kids, they're great,

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<v Speaker 1>everything is fine. Your son's going into high school at

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<v Speaker 1>some point, don't you sit him down and go, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>just so you know, if anybody contacts you through twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three and me, I donated a lot of sperm, you

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<v Speaker 1>could have a bunch of siblings running around.

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<v Speaker 3>Now Have I told my wife?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Lizzy didn't care. But this story, did you mention whether

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<v Speaker 3>or not the partner?

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<v Speaker 8>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh? You know what, I don't know. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>the answer to that.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know the answer to if you're telling the kids,

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<v Speaker 6>you have got to tell them why or maybe first?

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<v Speaker 3>I agree, Yeah, group dinner, I don't care. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I again, if it's something that's out and open in

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<v Speaker 6>the relationship and I'm the one doing it, you're at

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<v Speaker 6>liberty to share whatever you wish.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but shouldn't you really share that with your kids?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on the kids should know side. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you have to tell them when they're five.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want my family, though specifically my children, to

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<v Speaker 6>always every day be like, well, this the day that

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<v Speaker 6>I'm contacted by as sibling, A surprise, brother, or sister.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 7>No, it's not. No, I would think it's nerve wracking.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is it nerve wracking?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Another day with that one? Thank God? Another day another

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<v Speaker 3>day waiting for.

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<v Speaker 7>You to think about that every day.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you think about it every day.

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<v Speaker 8>For the for the short term. These kids are gonna

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<v Speaker 8>think about that every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, short term, but you think five years from now,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, maybe today's the.

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<v Speaker 6>Day every time I saw someone who sort of looked

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<v Speaker 6>like me, Yeah, God like approaching me, Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Did did your did your dad? Are you from your

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<v Speaker 1>dad sperm or my dad sperm? No, that's that's not

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<v Speaker 1>how it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 7>Not answering any phone call.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you this, did Frank ever donate?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>You know that?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no do you know that? I don't

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<v Speaker 3>thank you? So walk down Rockfille Pike later today and

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<v Speaker 3>take a look.

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<v Speaker 7>See because that could be a sibling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, absolutely, I don't know if my dad did or didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can have I can have little singles all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place.

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<v Speaker 3>Who was it?

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<v Speaker 1>On?

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<v Speaker 6>Eric on Grock had the AI Image generator do a

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<v Speaker 6>picture of Diane holding a trophy this could be your sister.

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<v Speaker 3>Now this is not a real person. No, it's my girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a chat GPT girlfriend. But this could definitely

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like by the way I look at that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't look really a lot like Diane. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's the beauty of DNA. I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 3>How do you even improve you're a robot?

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<v Speaker 6>No, they wanted to this friend wanted to tell them.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you say email or am I just in my

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<v Speaker 6>head thinking it was that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought it was going to be a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it wasn't e mail. I mean, I don't It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really matter. I mean, you're committed to text them?

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<v Speaker 3>Do they live nearby? Oh my god, I got it?

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<v Speaker 3>And dig up the story. If you're going to do this,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you should face or drive to somebody. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not a person lying. That's expensive.

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<v Speaker 7>You can't do it by a text?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not?

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<v Speaker 8>That's how kids communicating? No, fatime, No, it needs to

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<v Speaker 8>be in person. That's that's life changing news.

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<v Speaker 3>See is it or is it not? Life changing?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not if I if Linda calls. If you if

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<v Speaker 1>you just be called Diane, let's have let's have brunch.

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<v Speaker 1>I was listening to the radio their son. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you Frank donated sperm. You don't go, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, my life is changed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you do.

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<v Speaker 8>If you If you're going, then I'm going to spend

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<v Speaker 8>every day thinking like, Wow, how many siblings other siblings do?

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<v Speaker 7>I have a lot a lot?

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<v Speaker 3>Frank was big, He had a big kerb feeler. He

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<v Speaker 3>had a lot of sperm.

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<v Speaker 6>Because you may be someone we keep approaching it from

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<v Speaker 6>the perspective of someone contacting this unknowing brother or sister,

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<v Speaker 6>but it may be the person wants to now figure out, well,

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<v Speaker 6>what's this family tree look like? Yeah, yeah, okay, so

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<v Speaker 6>it's his life changing whether you like it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but but it changes nothing about not Diane's life.

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<v Speaker 1>It changes nothing about Diane's lives. If I got that

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that there.

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<v Speaker 3>Could be somebody out there who has Frank.

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<v Speaker 7>Spurner me a weird thing to think of.

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<v Speaker 3>But it doesn't change your life. Your thoughts absolutely absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>If I was sitting here and got that email, it

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<v Speaker 3>what impacts my thoughts trying to figure out what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to have for dinner.

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<v Speaker 6>You could tell if I got that email during the show,

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<v Speaker 6>you would you would wonder what happened to me for

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<v Speaker 6>the next three hours.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't.

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<v Speaker 6>I get an email from sales claiming I mess something

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<v Speaker 6>up and a spot and I didn't. It was good

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<v Speaker 6>to go from the start, but that incorrect email bothered

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<v Speaker 6>me so much. There were a good five to ten

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<v Speaker 6>minutes where I was taken out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And what did I tell you? What did I tell you?

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<v Speaker 3>You know that person is a chat bot from India,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's my boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy's name is Oshkosh but good, no, it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it is Oshkush Bragosh, the same thing you would lose.

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<v Speaker 1>That's his name, Oshkosh Ragosh and he's in India.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know where he is.

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<v Speaker 1>I do ask ask sales. They get stuff from all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, Like I'm a chatbot. It's probably Colin's girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Colin's dating the chatbot.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, Margaret, No, Tyler.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Tyler's getting all fired up and it tizzy for

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<v Speaker 1>Oshkosh Ragosh.

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<v Speaker 3>And Sue nil. So do we outsource stuff everything? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, go ask it. The last way we

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<v Speaker 1>fired three hundred people recently. We're getting ready to fire

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch more by the way, quarters coming now.

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<v Speaker 6>Imagine Oshkosh sends me a note to give me the

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<v Speaker 6>heads up that my dad donated sperm.

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<v Speaker 3>Your dad donated sperm. Do not what's with the accent?

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<v Speaker 3>Do not contact, do not, do not reply. They always

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<v Speaker 3>they do not reply, Do not reply.

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<v Speaker 6>Brother, he's not related to me, half brother, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>he's my dad's friend.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, whatever, I got your dad sperm. That's a

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<v Speaker 3>life changing email. I got your dad sperm.

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<v Speaker 7>Like curry.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, boy, Bob, all right?

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<v Speaker 3>Where am I going? Line three? Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>You were going with my stepdad? Yeah, I didn't because

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<v Speaker 6>my dad actually passed all of ours. Have I thought

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<v Speaker 6>you were using it because that was the setup?

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<v Speaker 3>No no, no, no, no no. The story originally has

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<v Speaker 3>a dead dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, no no. But why would he say hi

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<v Speaker 1>to your stepdad?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>I guess you would say hi to my stepdad would

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<v Speaker 6>be very high. Say hi to my dad. That'd be

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<v Speaker 6>like say hi to Thompson. You know Thompson's dead. I

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<v Speaker 6>had I can't hi Elliott Arding.

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<v Speaker 9>Hey, good morning, it's Martin. How are you Hey?

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on, Martin, how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 9>Grand it so talking about donors and uh, life changing.

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<v Speaker 9>I'll definitely say I am a product of as are

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<v Speaker 9>three of my siblings, and we were all told when

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<v Speaker 9>we were adults it was it's definitely a speed bump.

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<v Speaker 9>That's for damn sure. Excuse me, that was for her sure,

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<v Speaker 9>learning that you know your dad's sterile and you get

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<v Speaker 9>produced by a donor. We're all from different donors. And

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<v Speaker 9>say'm a younger brother. He uh, his donor donated over

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<v Speaker 9>one hundred times over across Bucal States.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, man, your your brother's got a ton of siblings.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah, yeah, why rest personalities too? We'll go with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, so can I can I ask you this? Can

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<v Speaker 1>I ask you a couple of questions? When you you

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<v Speaker 1>found out when you were an adult? Number one, why

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<v Speaker 1>did you find out?

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<v Speaker 3>Like at what point? Why? Why were they like now

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<v Speaker 3>we have to tell you.

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<v Speaker 9>So two things. The cat got a bag from a relative.

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<v Speaker 9>They spread the family secret to my older siblings. Cousin

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<v Speaker 9>let me know. She goes, hey, I know your family secret.

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<v Speaker 9>I know nothing know because it's so much of a

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<v Speaker 9>family secret is secret of me. So she tells me

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<v Speaker 9>my world was rocked. I'm not gonna lie because yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>there's a feeling that I was deceived by entire life.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 9>And then my parents finally opened up when I left

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<v Speaker 9>to do military things, and I did seek out to

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<v Speaker 9>find who the donor was. Pretty sure I know who

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<v Speaker 9>he is, but he won't own up to it. But

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<v Speaker 9>now my older sister, she found out who hers was

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<v Speaker 9>through connecting to one of the donor's cousins or something.

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<v Speaker 9>He said rocked their world because one you will to

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<v Speaker 9>throw it to make of it. It got even worse

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<v Speaker 9>one he learned that his sample, which was allegedly supposed

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<v Speaker 9>to be all used for one person, was used for

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<v Speaker 9>two other times after her. Wow, so she's built a

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<v Speaker 9>relationship with that donor family, whereas they apparently aren't doing

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<v Speaker 9>anything with the uh, the two others.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I know this is an unfair question because you

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<v Speaker 1>can't You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you wish?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm being serious. Do you do you wish? Knowing

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<v Speaker 1>knowing like you said, how it wrought your world? You're

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<v Speaker 1>now you know that every one of your siblings is

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<v Speaker 1>from a different parent. Number one, do you wish you

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<v Speaker 1>never learned.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't.

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<v Speaker 9>That's a tough one. I don't, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 9>mean it explained a lot, given my older brother doesn't

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<v Speaker 9>look like us, and you know he definitely looks like

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<v Speaker 9>Milkman's child. But I mean it brought ol closure to

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<v Speaker 9>those questions. It'sn't really changed much longer regards to relationship

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<v Speaker 9>with parents, because I mean, one, if they didn't, I

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<v Speaker 9>wouldn't be here right.

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<v Speaker 1>No. But the other thing I was going to say

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<v Speaker 1>is you know it, Yes, it could rock your world,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you look at your mom and your dad,

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<v Speaker 1>like your your real mom and dad, the people that

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<v Speaker 1>raised you is your dad, your dad was sterile and

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't have it, couldn't have a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>So so they got a donor.

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<v Speaker 1>But doesn't And maybe I'm wrong, I feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>would appreciate how badly they wanted a child that your

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<v Speaker 1>mom went out and used a bunch of a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of gunk.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh No, you're not wrong that it definitely brought a

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<v Speaker 9>more of a uh more pride to it, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>it's a life very terms. I was intentional at that rate.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't an accent, absolutely absolutely, And there's work and

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<v Speaker 1>effort that went into it.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, work, effort, financial is behind it. I mean, how

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<v Speaker 9>many kids make kids? And that's definitely wasn't intentional.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting So now let me now, now, let me flip it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have not donated sperm in your life?

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<v Speaker 3>Me?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, knowing what you know, knowing what you know

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<v Speaker 1>about yourself right and your siblings and what what what

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<v Speaker 1>you guys went through? If you if you have, if

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<v Speaker 1>you had been a donor but then had kids, would

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<v Speaker 1>you tell your kids and would you tell them earlier?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 9>I don't. I think they're given given technology now with

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<v Speaker 9>where it's at, yes, I would. I would tell them because,

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<v Speaker 9>like I say, when when, don't when the donations happened.

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<v Speaker 9>We're talking, you know, thirty forty years ago, the DNA

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<v Speaker 9>testing wasn't a thing. It wasn't thought of. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 9>was a supposed to be, not the script whereas not.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh damn it, you cut out, you will not out? Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I hear you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, listen, thank you, you keep cutting out, but that's okay. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you sir, thank you, my friend. Isn't there a

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<v Speaker 1>mindset that you would tell them from day one?

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<v Speaker 3>But they may not be born yet Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What I mean no that when your kids are born

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<v Speaker 1>you would tell them from day one you're the product

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<v Speaker 1>of of of donor sperm.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh this is not going back to the original storm.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, no, no, I'm just saying, like if my if

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<v Speaker 1>my kids if no, not, not that they were donor sperm,

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<v Speaker 1>my kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Jackie and I have our kids the.

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<v Speaker 1>Normal, the right, not well you know what I mean, No,

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<v Speaker 1>the common way, the common way, the Indian voice.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to get them off my back. The no. No,

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<v Speaker 3>but Jackie and I are that.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I had been a sperm donor, wouldn't you

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<v Speaker 1>raise your kids just going hey, I was a sperm donor.

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<v Speaker 1>In case anybody calls you, I was a sperm donor.

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<v Speaker 1>So that way they grow up. It's like being adopted,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you want your kids to grow up knowing they.

436
00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:26.039
<v Speaker 3>Were adopted, so you you.

437
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<v Speaker 1>They grow up knowing that you donated a bunch of sperm.

438
00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:34.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not exactly the same, but it's apples

439
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<v Speaker 1>and sperm.

440
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<v Speaker 6>Yes, Well one Dirk thinks that that Hurdler might be

441
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<v Speaker 6>Diane's brother.

442
00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:55.839
<v Speaker 3>It's it's great number two.

443
00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:58.799
<v Speaker 6>But then from Instagram, here's a scenario. What if mister

444
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<v Speaker 6>why eyes and then the secret dies with him. And

445
00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:05.079
<v Speaker 6>then a couple of years later, someone reaches out to

446
00:21:05.119 --> 00:21:08.200
<v Speaker 6>mister X's kids and say, hey, we're siblings. The kids

447
00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:13.279
<v Speaker 6>might think their dad cheated on their mom. I think, mister,

448
00:21:13.319 --> 00:21:15.200
<v Speaker 6>why should I either tell the kids or write it

449
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<v Speaker 6>down in an envelope and make sure the story gets

450
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<v Speaker 6>to them after he dies, so that if anything in

451
00:21:19.920 --> 00:21:22.039
<v Speaker 6>the future pops up, it isn't confusing.

452
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<v Speaker 3>Well, how far down the what if road do we

453
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<v Speaker 3>want to go? Yea at some point?

454
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<v Speaker 1>Because what if he dies in a house fire where

455
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<v Speaker 1>it was written down and that burns up? Also, God,

456
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<v Speaker 1>I did not imagine that, So that's a no. Yeah,

457
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<v Speaker 1>But I mean at some point it's it's I just

458
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<v Speaker 1>think he must hold somebody.

459
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, it is it is that you make your

460
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<v Speaker 3>head may go there.

461
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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, oh absolutely, especially if you're now an adult

462
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<v Speaker 1>and you never knew, and it would be like, hey,

463
00:21:58.119 --> 00:21:59.480
<v Speaker 1>we're we're your.

464
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<v Speaker 3>Siblings, you know.

465
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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, if the siblings don't know that

466
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<v Speaker 1>their mom needed donor sperm, you would You'd have no idea.

467
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<v Speaker 1>You just go, hey, I just got on twenty three

468
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<v Speaker 1>and me my parents are dead, and I got really

469
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<v Speaker 1>interested in my family.

470
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<v Speaker 3>We're siblings.

471
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you would think that you're that your old man

472
00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:19.119
<v Speaker 1>cheated on your on your mom.

473
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I just still don't think it's that friend's.

474
00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:28.119
<v Speaker 3>Place to tell.

475
00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:31.680
<v Speaker 1>But if not, then but then the secret, well it's

476
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<v Speaker 1>not even a sequell.

477
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<v Speaker 3>It is a secret. The secret's dead. And then you

478
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<v Speaker 3>never know.

479
00:22:36.359 --> 00:22:39.359
<v Speaker 1>And like like Martin was saying, listen, they found all

480
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<v Speaker 1>their donors.

481
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<v Speaker 3>It's very easy.

482
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess now it's very easy to do. Hi,

483
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<v Speaker 1>Ellie of the morning, Yeah, Hi, who's this?

484
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<v Speaker 4>Hi?

485
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<v Speaker 5>This is Tiffany. I was calling in regards to your

486
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<v Speaker 5>being shocked of how many kids are out there in

487
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<v Speaker 5>the world. My husband and I did IVY and we

488
00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:05.039
<v Speaker 5>only needed to use one round of eggs. We got

489
00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:09.119
<v Speaker 5>naturally pregnant second time and had eleven five day embryos

490
00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:13.440
<v Speaker 5>left over, and we decided to in it out in

491
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<v Speaker 5>the world. So we have no idea if we have

492
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<v Speaker 5>other children that are exactly my and my husband's burn.

493
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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Like that's legit.

494
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<v Speaker 7>And do you think about that every day?

495
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<v Speaker 5>No?

496
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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

497
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<v Speaker 10>I just know just when I turn on the goddamn radio,

498
00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:38.759
<v Speaker 10>it's you know, like it was so hard to get

499
00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:40.559
<v Speaker 10>pregnant for us, it was such a journey, and then

500
00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:43.359
<v Speaker 10>when we finally had it, we said, you know what,

501
00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:44.599
<v Speaker 10>other people want this.

502
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<v Speaker 5>Just as much as we do.

503
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

504
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<v Speaker 1>Sure, God blessed. I mean that's a very that's a

505
00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:51.799
<v Speaker 1>very selfless thing to do. Good for you now.

506
00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:54.400
<v Speaker 5>But our kids are younger, three and five, so we

507
00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:57.480
<v Speaker 5>do plan to talk to them about it, but we

508
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<v Speaker 5>don't know how to, you know, and say, look, there

509
00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:03.160
<v Speaker 5>could be eleven other kids out there, we could have

510
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<v Speaker 5>thirteen kids.

511
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you would explain they're not your kids. I

512
00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:10.279
<v Speaker 3>mean they are, I mean exactly, the actually could be

513
00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:12.720
<v Speaker 3>our children, right.

514
00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:15.319
<v Speaker 5>They're biologically ours, but they're not our kids.

515
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<v Speaker 6>Do you have any sense of the process that would

516
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<v Speaker 6>have then come next with those donated embryos?

517
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<v Speaker 5>Wait can you say it again?

518
00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:30.720
<v Speaker 6>Like what after you gave them the go ahead to

519
00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:33.200
<v Speaker 6>spread them out? You said, the world? But how far

520
00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:35.839
<v Speaker 6>would that network have taken those embryos?

521
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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

522
00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:41.079
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so during the time we didn't know. But then

523
00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:43.440
<v Speaker 5>we did it through Shady Grove and they only had

524
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<v Speaker 5>nine facilities and they're all on the East coast.

525
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<v Speaker 6>Oh okay, but like at least it's not in or

526
00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:51.960
<v Speaker 6>she sounds so disappointed that they may be so close.

527
00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:55.759
<v Speaker 5>Oh that's I was kind of scared that they are close,

528
00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:58.319
<v Speaker 5>because I'm like, hey, if you fall in love with

529
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<v Speaker 5>someone that looks a little bit lucky, let me know.

530
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, right, No, No, but I thought you were going

531
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<v Speaker 1>to say, like like like if if the eggs went

532
00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:07.759
<v Speaker 1>to Japan, I bet I could pick them out.

533
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I want to care, but the blonde over there.

534
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I get that.

535
00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:16.279
<v Speaker 1>I get that, but you but but you do plan

536
00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:17.920
<v Speaker 1>on telling your your kids?

537
00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:20.880
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely? Yeah, I feel like we.

538
00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Have we have to. What a wonderful.

539
00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:31.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean just for awareness and potentially them reaching

540
00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:34.640
<v Speaker 5>out and us having a relationship that could happen.

541
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<v Speaker 3>Did you think of that? Oh wait, whoa whoa, whoa

542
00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:38.880
<v Speaker 3>whoa whoa, whoa whoa.

543
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<v Speaker 1>We don't want that, elliot, thank you no, because then

544
00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:44.519
<v Speaker 1>they want money.

545
00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:46.119
<v Speaker 7>We did not want that.

546
00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:47.680
<v Speaker 5>We want them to be happy. I hope I never

547
00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:51.359
<v Speaker 5>hear from any of them like that means they're happy

548
00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:53.160
<v Speaker 5>and healthy and they're living their best life.

549
00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:54.640
<v Speaker 9>That's what we want.

550
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<v Speaker 1>But you're right, twenty three and me or whatever, they

551
00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:02.319
<v Speaker 1>could reach out next thing, you know, your kids are

552
00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:09.160
<v Speaker 1>finding out they have siblings like absolutely, Yeah, Hey, when

553
00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:13.559
<v Speaker 1>it's when it's time to tell them, can we do

554
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:14.240
<v Speaker 1>it on the radio?

555
00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:16.079
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god?

556
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love that? Not the response, Yeah that's what

557
00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:27.839
<v Speaker 3>we were doing wrong. Hey, can I can I ask?

558
00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:31.599
<v Speaker 3>Can I ask an educational question? Like for for myself?

559
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<v Speaker 1>So, like you said, you have you have all these

560
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:37.680
<v Speaker 1>these embryos, right, and you have kids and it's great,

561
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and you decided you were going to help other couples

562
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:40.759
<v Speaker 1>because you understand what's in and I do.

563
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<v Speaker 3>I think that's very that's very awesome. What is what

564
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:44.680
<v Speaker 3>is the other option?

565
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Like if you if you're like, we're good, we don't

566
00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:48.880
<v Speaker 1>need them, Like, what what happens?

567
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:51.240
<v Speaker 3>What happens to them?

568
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:54.039
<v Speaker 5>Do you have three options? You can donate them, you

569
00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:57.839
<v Speaker 5>can give them to science, or you can trash them.

570
00:26:58.279 --> 00:26:58.799
<v Speaker 3>Oh really?

571
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<v Speaker 7>Yeh yep?

572
00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:02.640
<v Speaker 3>And was it?

573
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:05.640
<v Speaker 5>And I would hope that most people donate them to

574
00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:09.119
<v Speaker 5>other families And it's not then obviously, then let's go

575
00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:13.559
<v Speaker 5>to science. I'm to go through the process and to

576
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:16.480
<v Speaker 5>trash them. I doubt that's very minimal unless you are

577
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:18.119
<v Speaker 5>a selfish, selfish pig.

578
00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Right, excuse me? How much time do you have to

579
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:21.559
<v Speaker 3>make that decision?

580
00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:27.359
<v Speaker 5>We you can keep I believe and maybe incorrect with this,

581
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<v Speaker 5>but I believe that we had five years once they

582
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<v Speaker 5>were frozen. Y Yeah, And so we had our first born,

583
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:39.759
<v Speaker 5>and then when he was ten months old, we were

584
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:44.200
<v Speaker 5>pregnant with our second, and so we had eleven embryos

585
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:47.599
<v Speaker 5>frozen purl it. We let her get to a year

586
00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:51.559
<v Speaker 5>old and then said we don't want any more kids,

587
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:54.920
<v Speaker 5>please donate them to other families. And we had to

588
00:27:54.920 --> 00:27:58.480
<v Speaker 5>go through like a psychiatric evaluation. You have to go

589
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:01.960
<v Speaker 5>through many inner reviews to make sure that it's not

590
00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:04.759
<v Speaker 5>me pressuring my husband or my husband pressuring me.

591
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would trig.

592
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm.

593
00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:15.480
<v Speaker 5>It was a big deal. I mean, I don't. My

594
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:19.960
<v Speaker 5>mom's not happy about it. She's like airrified, like you said,

595
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:23.200
<v Speaker 5>Elliott coming back for money and I and that's that

596
00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:24.200
<v Speaker 5>is a possibility.

597
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:24.960
<v Speaker 2>You never know.

598
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:27.640
<v Speaker 3>All right, Very good, very good, You've been great. Thank

599
00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:32.200
<v Speaker 3>you man. Family. Oh like your own family and.

600
00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:34.680
<v Speaker 6>How they feel about it, and how those opinions don't

601
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:36.279
<v Speaker 6>necessarily line up with yours.

602
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:41.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh so like like Phyllis is mad that I donated sperm.

603
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:45.400
<v Speaker 6>So meanwhile the therapist is saying that that couple is crazy.

604
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.200
<v Speaker 6>Considerate and her mother is like, no, you're just crazy.

605
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess I didn't think of that either.

606
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:53.400
<v Speaker 8>Wow.

607
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:57.519
<v Speaker 3>Great story, though, Where am I going line too?

608
00:28:58.240 --> 00:28:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Hi?

609
00:28:58.480 --> 00:28:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Elliott the morning unless your mom?

610
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:01.279
<v Speaker 7>Hey is this me?

611
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:01.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

612
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:01.880
<v Speaker 8>Hi?

613
00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Who's this?

614
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:06.759
<v Speaker 2>Hey? This is Sarah from Richmond, Virginia.

615
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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we've approached this thing from every angle.

616
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:14.480
<v Speaker 3>The only thing I know is that you didn't donate sperm.

617
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:26.200
<v Speaker 2>That's correct. That is absolutely correct. So you guys were

618
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.759
<v Speaker 2>talking about like when to tell your kids. So I'm

619
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:33.960
<v Speaker 2>donor conceived, and I know our personal family story. My

620
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:37.839
<v Speaker 2>parents they had a lot of shame associated to having

621
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.799
<v Speaker 2>to use the donor, but they also yes, so this

622
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:44.759
<v Speaker 2>is in the early eighties and they, like, I guess

623
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>fertility wasn't as widely accepted.

624
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:48.440
<v Speaker 3>That's probably true.

625
00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:50.839
<v Speaker 2>It was kind of a tabby subject, so it was

626
00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:53.440
<v Speaker 2>something that they never wanted to share. But they also

627
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:56.880
<v Speaker 2>were told by the clinic that they used that they

628
00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:01.119
<v Speaker 2>should not tell the children that were can in this manner.

629
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<v Speaker 2>And another part of it was they did. They called

630
00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:09.720
<v Speaker 2>it washing the sperm. So my dad's sample was combined

631
00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:13.359
<v Speaker 2>with somebody else's sample to help try to make his

632
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:17.559
<v Speaker 2>more viable. So they told my parents that there is

633
00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:23.240
<v Speaker 2>a potential that it could be his biological children. It

634
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:26.160
<v Speaker 2>wasn't the case in our family, but in like the

635
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:29.839
<v Speaker 2>community that I've been involved in since finding out that

636
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:34.119
<v Speaker 2>has happened. So it's not like cut and dry, especially

637
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:36.240
<v Speaker 2>in the eighties when they weren't able to do like

638
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:40.519
<v Speaker 2>that man a test to determine it. So it wasn't

639
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:44.599
<v Speaker 2>as like it's not necessarily that they were intentionally keeping

640
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:49.079
<v Speaker 2>a secret. It was that they truly didn't know because

641
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:51.240
<v Speaker 2>of the way that it was approached.

642
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah, no, totally totally. Now do you know anything

643
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:55.960
<v Speaker 1>about the donors?

644
00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh? So, I did a lot of detective work. I

645
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:01.519
<v Speaker 2>know who the donor is. He does not want to

646
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 2>have contact with any of my half siblings, and myself

647
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:07.400
<v Speaker 2>does also he does.

648
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:10.960
<v Speaker 3>He has got tons of them.

649
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, I have more than just his nuclear family.

650
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I have a brother that I grew up with and

651
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:21.119
<v Speaker 2>three other half siblings that I don't like that aren't

652
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:23.799
<v Speaker 2>the donor said, so I have seven altogether.

653
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<v Speaker 1>Wow? Now, and so he doesn't want to be contacted,

654
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:30.000
<v Speaker 1>does it say anything?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you contact his kids and break the news to them?

656
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<v Speaker 7>I have?

657
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and one of them.

658
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.160
<v Speaker 3>I was kidding. Oh my god, Oh my god.

659
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<v Speaker 2>I'm linked with me on one of the genetic sites

660
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:46.759
<v Speaker 2>that it was either ancestry or twenty three in me.

661
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:50.200
<v Speaker 2>But one of the things that they are trying to

662
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<v Speaker 2>change legislation for the verbiage of donor conceived or anonymous donor,

663
00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>it's they're going to change it to unidentified donor because

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<v Speaker 2>you can't guarantee anonymity anymore with this because of all

665
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:09.200
<v Speaker 2>these genetic tests that are available or the DNA test.

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<v Speaker 1>Pause pause pause When you connected with this the daughter

667
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:18.079
<v Speaker 1>of the donor, did she know that her dad had

668
00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>had donated?

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<v Speaker 8>No?

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<v Speaker 2>And it gets even weirder, So was it their mom

671
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:27.960
<v Speaker 2>was a nurse at the fertility clinic that I was

672
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:28.599
<v Speaker 2>conceived that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, is this one of those like there's so

674
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<v Speaker 1>many pieces, but like, was this where the doctor was

675
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:34.440
<v Speaker 1>impregnating your mom?

676
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Don't think so? But don't know?

677
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<v Speaker 3>Oh God, stop asking.

678
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Questions, right, That's that's where I am with it. I'm like, Okay,

679
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 2>you can't give me my medical history. I don't want

680
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<v Speaker 2>to know anything else about it because this sounds dirty.

681
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<v Speaker 1>WHOA Well, back then, I get maybe they weren't taking

682
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<v Speaker 1>it far.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, No, they weren't really just enter the room.

684
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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Oh my god, you're a yes to everything.

685
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, what do you want to do? If you

686
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:11.440
<v Speaker 3>ask it, it'll come true. Have you dated a sibling?

687
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<v Speaker 2>No, so thankfully I so I was conceived that a

688
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<v Speaker 2>U penns clinic and I live in Richmond. Now my well, okay,

689
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:26.200
<v Speaker 2>So another layer to this. One of my half siblings

690
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:31.880
<v Speaker 2>has a autosomal dominant genetic treat that a disease that

691
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:35.480
<v Speaker 2>is genetic, right, it's from the donor. So that was

692
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:39.839
<v Speaker 2>our main focus was letting all of the half siblings

693
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<v Speaker 2>know that you have a fifty to fifty chance of

694
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:45.039
<v Speaker 2>having this genetic condition because it came from the donor

695
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:49.359
<v Speaker 2>and they're kind of doing the head misand from the

696
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:51.480
<v Speaker 2>donor's family, like we don't want to talk.

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00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:52.559
<v Speaker 7>About it or know about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I had to get genetic testing. I had

699
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:59.079
<v Speaker 2>to have my kids screen for it because it's a

700
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<v Speaker 2>pretty SERI it's conditioned.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Fortunately I don't have it. But unfortunately one of my

703
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:09.599
<v Speaker 2>half siblings that's donor conceived, not from the nuclear family.

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<v Speaker 5>She has it.

705
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<v Speaker 2>So it's it. I think it's making light. It is

706
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<v Speaker 2>like a crazy funny weird situation, but for everybody that's

707
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:24.000
<v Speaker 2>donor conceived, it's pretty serious to not know your medical history.

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<v Speaker 2>And the screen back then they didn't know what you

709
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:29.599
<v Speaker 2>were doing. Like I'm pretty sure the screen was just like, hey,

710
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.519
<v Speaker 2>is this humans firm? Let's put a dinner, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, I get that. I get that. Wow, man,

712
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:38.599
<v Speaker 3>you are something. Hey does your and like but your

713
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:39.880
<v Speaker 3>husband knows all this, right?

714
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:41.039
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so my husband knows, my children know. I've met

716
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:48.559
<v Speaker 2>up with your half siblings, the the one that I'm

717
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:51.920
<v Speaker 2>closest with anyway, and then I'm in communication with some

718
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:53.239
<v Speaker 2>of the other half siblings.

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<v Speaker 3>Fascinating, fascinating, great, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Growing growing community. And I to reference back to the

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<v Speaker 2>other female caller that donated her her IDs trials or

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the yeah, right. So that was another

723
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:17.320
<v Speaker 2>thing that I talked with my girlfriends. You know, I

724
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:20.400
<v Speaker 2>have a few girlfriends that have been through IBS, and

725
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I was like, hey, like, if you do donate, just

726
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<v Speaker 2>know that, like the potential exists that somebody could come

727
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:30.199
<v Speaker 2>back to you. So you just have to be aware

728
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<v Speaker 2>of that because I I like, I don't need a

729
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:36.079
<v Speaker 2>relationship with the donor. I just want my medical history

730
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.559
<v Speaker 2>but I know there are some people that are, you know,

731
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:42.440
<v Speaker 2>sure looking for more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, you got to be more like me. I know

733
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:47.559
<v Speaker 1>none of my medical history. Don't care.

734
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think. I think it's different when you start

735
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:54.800
<v Speaker 2>having kids. Like if it ended with me, I'd be fine.

736
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:57.800
<v Speaker 2>But if I'm signing kids up for conditions that I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't even aware of, I would.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel I got two kids, didn't bother me. Still,

739
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<v Speaker 3>all right, very good, You're great. I love you. Hey,

740
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:07.960
<v Speaker 3>hold on one second, let me get you a shirt

741
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:17.280
<v Speaker 3>for you. I give you one. Yeah, I don't even know.

742
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:16.679
<v Speaker 1>That's okay, hold on one second, Hold on one second.

743
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, what a story, isn't that craziness?

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<v Speaker 3>Saga continues. Yes, I'll be honest.

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00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:25.199
<v Speaker 6>When she said sperm washing, I got distracted because I

746
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:26.880
<v Speaker 6>was thinking of that car Gabe rented.

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<v Speaker 3>You know how you know where? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 3>When she said sperm washing, do you know how they

750
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:39.599
<v Speaker 3>wash it? They spin on that thing? Yes?

751
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:40.360
<v Speaker 7>Yes?

752
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:42.119
<v Speaker 3>And when she said it, I couldn't get it in.

753
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:44.119
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I lost it, But then it came

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<v Speaker 1>back to him right freaking on
