Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye with Me podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: Tony Gerdaman here once again with Juck Maletti and Jack.
Speaker 1: How's it going?
Speaker 2: My longest pause yet fantastic. Tony really excited about this topic.
Speaker 3: I love these ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and this one came from the home office
Speaker 1: of your home office, and you said, let's let's do something.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the you know, which freshmen that we
Speaker 1: think are going to hit one hundred snaps on the season,
Speaker 1: which caused us both to go back. I can look
Speaker 1: through the years to see how often does a freshman
Speaker 1: get one hundred snaps? And as you did your research,
Speaker 1: was there anything that really jumped out for you as
Speaker 1: you're doing this, Because one hundred snaps, it's like no
Speaker 1: big deal, but not a lot of freshmen actually hit
Speaker 1: that number.
Speaker 2: One hundred snaps is an elite number. If you were
Speaker 2: getting one hundred snaps at Ohio State as a freshman,
Speaker 2: it means they not only believe in you, but they're
Speaker 2: looking for you to contribute in a big way next year.
Speaker 3: And at number one.
Speaker 2: Before I even start that, I just want to say
Speaker 2: shout out to you for doing all this research. You
Speaker 2: did that I did that. We didn't even talk about.
Speaker 2: That is the kind of stuff you get on Buckeye Weekly.
Speaker 2: Most guys are going to come and spitball it. We
Speaker 2: went back years and years and years to look at
Speaker 2: how many Ohio State freshmen normally get one hundred snaps
Speaker 2: and the trends that I think we've seen here recently.
Speaker 2: Something we've talked about Ohio State fans for a long
Speaker 2: time when it comes to Ryan Day and his regime,
Speaker 2: not playing younger guys, not getting not getting the guys
Speaker 2: out quite early enough early as some would like in
Speaker 2: blowout games and getting those younger guys in there and playing.
Speaker 2: And when we just go back, say, for instance, to
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, you ad two freshmen and jyr Brown
Speaker 2: and Dollan Hayden cracked the one hundred snap club. In
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three you had three. You had Jermaine Matthews,
Speaker 2: Carnel Tate, and Malie Cartford. In twenty twenty four you
Speaker 2: had three again, Jeremiah Smith, Edric Houston and Jalen McLain.
Speaker 2: And after those guys that cracked the one hundred snap club,
Speaker 2: there's one or two guys that get to like seventy
Speaker 2: or so. Then when we roll into the class of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, which was a very good class, we
Speaker 2: have five guys who made the one hundred snap club
Speaker 2: in Bo Jackson, Nate Roberts, Isaiah West, Devin Sanchez, Zion Grady.
Speaker 2: But what really makes the difference here for me, Tony,
Speaker 2: is you've also got Fahim Delayne, Riley Petti, John Jarquis,
Speaker 2: Carter tj Alfred, and Quincy Porter all over fifty between fifty.
Speaker 3: To eighty five. And that is a drastic difference from
Speaker 3: the previous classes.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think it. On one hand, it tells
Speaker 1: you that the class is better, but also a more
Speaker 1: concerted effort to get guys on the field. And maybe
Speaker 1: it's because of lost depth or whatever, but I think
Speaker 1: the opportunity now to play four games that helps without
Speaker 1: burning a red shirt. And shoot, now there is no
Speaker 1: red shirt, so you just if they're good to go,
Speaker 1: you play them, and maybe that will increase some of
Speaker 1: the numbers as well, because you might get you might
Speaker 1: get sixty snaps or you know, say forty snaps, but
Speaker 1: those are in four games and then you're done for
Speaker 1: the regular season. Now, maybe they can sneak them in
Speaker 1: there and they don't have to worry about who's not
Speaker 1: going to be or who's out there. But that twenty
Speaker 1: two class of Gyre and Dalan Hayden, Wow, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: I'm looking at on the list that I have I
Speaker 1: put together from since twenty nineteen. And if I were
Speaker 1: to read it all to you, I'd be like, tell
Speaker 1: me which of these names don't belong or you know,
Speaker 1: stick out for the wrong reasons, And it would be
Speaker 1: two of those guys for sure. And you mentioned that
Speaker 1: you went back to twenty twenty two and you gave
Speaker 1: us the numbers of each of those classes, and then
Speaker 1: you go back to twenty twenty one, and there are
Speaker 1: eight guys, eight true freshmen in that class that played
Speaker 1: over one hundred snaps, And I'm gonna give them to you.
Speaker 1: Trevon Henderson, Marvin Harrison, Amecca Abuka, Donovan Jackson, j T Twee,
Speaker 1: Molowaw Jack Sawyer, Tyler Williams, Denzel Burke, eight NFL players,
Speaker 1: most of them drafted in the first half of the
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. And that's also the what six or seven
Speaker 1: of those guys were instrumental in Ohio State's national title
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, with the only guy there not
Speaker 1: there is Marvin Harrison, who left early. But I don't
Speaker 1: know if a bunch of freshmen playing is always a
Speaker 1: sign that when they're seniors they're gonna be good, because shoot,
Speaker 1: if you're playing a bunch of freshmen, they might be
Speaker 1: so good they won't see us senior year. But this
Speaker 1: is clearly this class here twenty twenty one, as we know,
Speaker 1: I'm not breaking any news here, very instrumental in the
Speaker 1: national title in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Four, no doubt, no doubt, and five of those guys
Speaker 2: five stars when we look just a couple of them
Speaker 2: in Denzel and ty Leak outside the top two hundred
Speaker 2: in the country.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: An instance where, without a doubt, man, that those recruiting
Speaker 2: rankings were spot on that year. And of course Ohio
Speaker 2: State plays a big part in making those recruiting rankings
Speaker 2: come true as well. But yeah, man, you could certainly
Speaker 2: see that they respected those guys right off the rip,
Speaker 2: that they came in ready to play. And I think
Speaker 2: that's something that you and I both noticed. Even with
Speaker 2: this this freshman class this year is quite a few
Speaker 2: of these dudes, maybe more than usual look ready to
Speaker 2: roll right off the rip, and I think that that
Speaker 2: is definitely something that stood out even compared to last year.
Speaker 2: And I thought the class of twenty twenty five was
Speaker 2: a really nice looking class.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be interesting how we will go
Speaker 1: through these positionally and see what we think, because there's
Speaker 1: also depth, a lot of depth behind the freshman class
Speaker 1: or in front of the freshman class, which is going
Speaker 1: to be hard for them right to make it on
Speaker 1: the field. I will say also, twenty twenty had two
Speaker 1: players Jackson Smith and Jigba and Julian Fleming. Twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: class had four Garrett Wilson, Zach Harrison, Harry Miller, and
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams, who played a bunch of Ohio State but
Speaker 1: never got the ball. And it's pretty funny that he
Speaker 1: had played. He played more snaps than a Mecca Luka
Speaker 1: as true freshman, and you just you wouldn't think it
Speaker 1: based on the way things went. But also they played
Speaker 1: they played a bunch of snaps in the Ohio State
Speaker 1: offense in twenty nineteen, that's true, and played a good
Speaker 1: number of games. But yeah, Harry Miller and Donovan Jackson
Speaker 1: the only two offensive linemen in the Ryan day head
Speaker 1: coaching era to hit that one hundred snap mark and
Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit to see. Yeah, that brings up.
Speaker 2: Maybe the most interesting Why don't we start right with
Speaker 2: it with the offensive line and Sam Greer. As we
Speaker 2: look at this offensive line, Sam Greer, I think, is
Speaker 2: you know, you look at the top three tackles on
Speaker 2: the team. You got Austin Sarahbeld who, whether he plays
Speaker 2: tackle or not, between him, Ian Moore and Phil Daniels
Speaker 2: is definitively the top three. I think in the spring
Speaker 2: what we saw was Deontae Armstrong outperformed Carter Lowe and
Speaker 2: Sam Greer outperformed both of them. And I don't see
Speaker 2: any reason why we're not going to roll in to
Speaker 2: camp and feel the same way, maybe even in a stronger,
Speaker 2: you know, stronger about that. So that puts Sam Greer
Speaker 2: as you're will say, you know, definitive fourth in that scenario.
Speaker 3: And if he is your definitive fourth and you're.
Speaker 2: Looking at next year, I'm thinking you're gonna want to
Speaker 2: get him some reps and I think that he is
Speaker 2: probably ready, And I don't know, ton I think I
Speaker 2: might bet on him getting that one hundred snaps and
Speaker 2: joining Harry Miller and Donald.
Speaker 1: That's that's interesting. I was just looking back at twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four when there were maybe four tackles, but also
Speaker 1: the numbers are skewed because of Josh Simmons' injury. But
Speaker 1: even like a guy like George Fitzpatrick played eighty four
Speaker 1: snaps that year sixteen games, I would say I would
Speaker 1: say eighty four is more likely than one hundred or
Speaker 1: Sam Greer. But you're right in terms of if he's
Speaker 1: going to be in the lineup next year, you're going
Speaker 1: to want to know as much about him as possible.
Speaker 1: And but also you may be returning you're starting left
Speaker 1: tackle and right tackle next year. When you're talking about
Speaker 1: Ian Moore and Philip Daniels because they both will have
Speaker 1: eligibility remaining. But if you want to have your best
Speaker 1: five you want, you're going to want to get as
Speaker 1: much information. So I will say I will take the
Speaker 1: under on one hundred from Sam Greer. I don't know
Speaker 1: that we need to spend too much time on tight
Speaker 1: end in terms in terms of that, because even though
Speaker 1: Nate Roberts did it last year, I think he was
Speaker 1: the only one of the tight ends in this span
Speaker 1: to go over one hundred snaps.
Speaker 2: But I will say, if if you were just to say,
Speaker 2: pick another one out of the last five seven years,
Speaker 2: I think Nick Laud would be pretty damn close to
Speaker 2: Sam in my opinion, just to say I don't think
Speaker 2: he's going to.
Speaker 3: Do it this year either, I agree with you. But
Speaker 3: he's looking great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean, you've got four ahead of him
Speaker 1: at this point, and it's and and two older guys
Speaker 1: who are also ahead of him. Yeah, and he's working
Speaker 1: his way up from seven to to whatever. So that's
Speaker 1: that's just a tough ask unless he's the best fullback
Speaker 1: on the team. But I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: are wanting to talk about receiver, and that's kind of
Speaker 1: where I initially went when I was thinking about this,
Speaker 1: and Chris Henry Jr. I think we just go ahead
Speaker 1: and put him in there. I think I think he's
Speaker 1: he's a lock for that. And after doing all of
Speaker 1: this research and looking at all these names, the receivers
Speaker 1: like Julian Fleming playing as much as he did in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty and and that was a COVID year, and
Speaker 1: the Jamison Williams like if not that, I was on
Speaker 1: the the fence about brock Boyd. But I'm way over
Speaker 1: the fence now in terms of one hundred snaps. I
Speaker 1: think the other the real question is can can your
Speaker 1: Quighton Guilford get there?
Speaker 2: That's that's right where I'm totally with you. Easy over
Speaker 2: for Chris, easy over for Brock. I think they'll both
Speaker 2: be uh, you know, guys, that are you know, part
Speaker 2: of this offense, not just we're trying to get this
Speaker 2: guy some playing time and Dreck Quayden. Now when you look,
Speaker 2: is he you know, after Philip Bell puts him at number.
Speaker 3: What what are we add a number eighth?
Speaker 2: And now we're getting into all right now you're kind
Speaker 2: of forcing it to get him these snaps, and that
Speaker 2: to me is someone who's probably and I think, and
Speaker 2: I talked about this recently that the fact that he
Speaker 2: wasn't really spoken about a whole lot this spring had
Speaker 2: so much more to do with Chris and Brock massively.
Speaker 3: Obviously, Brock took.
Speaker 2: All the air out of the building in the first
Speaker 2: couple of weeks of spring, and then Chris came on.
Speaker 2: But Jack Quadon Guildford looked really, really good. He looked like,
Speaker 2: oh wow, that's a dude right there, and he performed
Speaker 2: really well, but it just wasn't making the headlines like
Speaker 2: those who were. But I think that I would probably
Speaker 2: settle into a seventy five over under for him. So
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the under one hundred, but definitely over
Speaker 2: for Brock and Chris.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'm with you on that one. I was
Speaker 1: looking at the last two years, five receivers total have
Speaker 1: been over one hundred, but that's the Brian hartline rotation.
Speaker 1: Cortes han Yeah, Cortez Hankton will play more, guys. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know how much deeper they'll go past five,
Speaker 1: but I think those five will play more than they
Speaker 1: did they have in the past. And you know, if
Speaker 1: Quincy Porter played fifty seven snaps last year, got a
Speaker 1: little bit banged up, David Adolf played ninety eight, so
Speaker 1: he almost hit that that that helps that he started
Speaker 1: a game and got like fifty snaps in one of
Speaker 1: those games, right, But I'm I think seventy five. I
Speaker 1: think that would be a very good number for jack
Speaker 1: Quad and Guildford as your number three freshman Max geting
Speaker 1: some snaps. Yeah, so, and then moving to running back,
Speaker 1: it's it's one of two guys. It's Legend Beay is
Speaker 1: certainly for me over Favorite Key, certainly for me under
Speaker 1: right now, because he's the what the sixth guy? So
Speaker 1: we we did a show, you and I did a
Speaker 1: show on what we expect from Legend Bay. You can
Speaker 1: go find that in the Buckeye Weekly Feed. But I
Speaker 1: don't know, give me, give me an over under on
Speaker 1: how many snaps for Legend Bay this year, because are
Speaker 1: you disagreeing with me that he's gonna go over one hundred?
Speaker 1: Are you right now are you putting your foot down
Speaker 1: and saying no to Legend Bay playing this year over
Speaker 1: one hundred snaps?
Speaker 2: I think we put the we put the line at
Speaker 2: what six touches a game?
Speaker 3: So if we're talking six touches, we're way over right.
Speaker 1: We're like, like, what twenty five, two fifty eight? If
Speaker 1: he why can't he do what Dylan Hayden did?
Speaker 3: Right there you go.
Speaker 2: But I'm also with you with Favorite Key, who I
Speaker 2: thought really was impressive in the spring.
Speaker 3: But he's got, you know.
Speaker 2: Obviously, just a pile of dudes ahead of him that
Speaker 2: are grown men. And he was seventeen in the spring,
Speaker 2: so he's kind of ways to go, probably about one
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty five pounds. Then we'll see what he
Speaker 2: put on over the summer. He's probably quite a bit bigger.
Speaker 2: He's a freak athlete. He'll be really good at some point,
Speaker 2: but not gonna happen for him this year. So with
Speaker 2: you on the over for legend and the under.
Speaker 1: For favor, do we need to talk about quarterback or
Speaker 1: should we move to defense? Because I don't see Luke
Speaker 1: Faye getting one hundred snaps unless there is something tragic, drastic,
Speaker 1: whatever going on. I just don't see it for him.
Speaker 1: All got to go to all gotta go to Tavian. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so defensive line, give me your thoughts.
Speaker 2: So, man, this one's tough because you've got three guys
Speaker 2: that all three you know, actually the two that look
Speaker 2: more physically ready right now. Jamiir Perez certainly, who came
Speaker 2: in at three point sixty is now at three but leaner,
Speaker 2: and you know it was just baby fat, and he's
Speaker 2: moving a lot better and he certainly looks ready. And
Speaker 2: then you got a manual ruffin at three hundred pounds.
Speaker 2: He's so long, moving really really fast. But both of
Speaker 2: us were most impressed with the Mary Simeon. Of the
Speaker 2: three of them over the spring, one of the players
Speaker 2: that is that I'm looking most forward to seeing this week,
Speaker 2: to see if we come away from this week's camp
Speaker 2: feeling the same way that we did coming out of
Speaker 2: spring with those three guys. So if we're going off that,
Speaker 2: I'm going to take just one of these guys over.
Speaker 2: I can't see more than one of them getting it,
Speaker 2: So I'm going to have to go with the Maury
Speaker 2: Simeon for my over because I just think he looks
Speaker 2: the most ready to make an impact.
Speaker 1: Last year, they had four defensive tackles go over one
Speaker 1: hundred snaps, and it was the four that you know,
Speaker 1: Will Smith, Taiwan Malone, edarck Houston and Kayden mcdonay, Ronald
Speaker 1: Jark Quiz Carter with fifty one as a freshman trade
Speaker 1: you note him ten and the other freshman you know him.
Speaker 1: He loves Maxwell Roy. Yeah, I was gonna say Max Riley,
Speaker 1: and I knew it wasn't right. He's of course, he
Speaker 1: did not play and he's off to UCLA, if I recall. So,
Speaker 1: I think if Carter wouldn't have been injured, he could
Speaker 1: have really gotten close to one hundred snaps and he
Speaker 1: was I mean, he was the number five defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: He moved past Jason Moore, so that possibility was there.
Speaker 1: I am with you. I want to see more from
Speaker 1: Damari Simeon to see if this was just a couple
Speaker 1: of really good spring practices and see where he is now.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, they had five defensive tackles go
Speaker 1: over on there, one hundred snaps and you had Taiwan
Speaker 1: Malone at ninety five. So there is a possibility there
Speaker 1: for one of these freshmen to get in there. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm going to stay. I'm gonna say no on
Speaker 1: any of those guys.
Speaker 2: You know, I want to change my vote, Tony, Okay,
Speaker 2: because here's why. Because I I think that what we're
Speaker 2: gonna see is by the time we get to the season,
Speaker 2: Uh well, I feel, you know, great about Demory being
Speaker 2: able to do that right now, like one of these
Speaker 2: one of these other two potentially both of them also
Speaker 2: get up to that level. Yeah, and then it splits
Speaker 2: the snaps between because they want them all to go
Speaker 2: get twenty five thirty snaps and and it and it
Speaker 2: just eats into what one of them could potentially do,
Speaker 2: so all in all, it's a it's a better thing
Speaker 2: that they're all getting in there because they're all ready
Speaker 2: to handle it, at least two of them.
Speaker 3: But I think that.
Speaker 2: Takes Damori unders, so I'm gonna go under for all
Speaker 2: three of these guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think right Larry Johnson would take that
Speaker 1: as well, as long as he's as long as they
Speaker 1: getting some from something from Jason Moore, you know, that
Speaker 1: would be great if if that happened.
Speaker 3: Do you want to do the Jason Moore over under
Speaker 3: one hundred snaps?
Speaker 1: We'll move on. We don't need that. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: like that thought that they're just gonna take snaps away
Speaker 1: from each other. And frankly, if they do, that's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you go from there defensive end the way I
Speaker 1: see it, And I'm gonna have Cary Wilder over that number.
Speaker 1: I think this is what This is something that Tom
Speaker 1: and I have been talking about. If he can if
Speaker 1: you can get what you got out of Zion Grady
Speaker 1: last year in terms of snaps, and that was I
Speaker 1: think a one hundred and three or one hundred and
Speaker 1: four snaps last year, they and I think you would
Speaker 1: probably do more with him because he's more physically ready
Speaker 1: than Zion Grady was last year. I think he is
Speaker 1: the easiest pick. Do you do you agree? Do you
Speaker 1: see anybody else getting there? Because I think Drake Quinn
Speaker 1: needs some time.
Speaker 2: Uh Dre definitely need some time. And Cary I am
Speaker 2: like his jersey, he is right here. I'm so high
Speaker 2: on this kid, Like, I mean, comparing him to his
Speaker 2: Ion Grady is like, that's not even a comp really,
Speaker 2: but he has more guys ahead of him. But just
Speaker 2: like from the from the standpoint of like coming in
Speaker 2: ready to go, this kid, I mean he's already over Grady.
Speaker 2: To me, I absolutely think there there's no way, there's
Speaker 2: no way, barring injury, that they don't get him on
Speaker 2: the field because he is just that exciting and it's
Speaker 2: gonna be something.
Speaker 3: I think he might even hit two hundred.
Speaker 1: Wow. So if I were to say, you know, put
Speaker 1: the number at one fifty, you're going over that.
Speaker 3: I'm going over one fifty for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'm looking right now to see what
Speaker 1: the total snaps for Chase Young as a true freshman
Speaker 1: were in twenty seventeen, and it was one hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety six. Okay, so that's all. That's all you got
Speaker 1: to live up to, just a little bit of Chase Young,
Speaker 1: big deal. And the crazy thing about that year is
Speaker 1: you had Jalen Holmes, you had Nick Bosa, Sam Hubbard,
Speaker 1: Taekwon Lewis. Now the good thing is they also played inside.
Speaker 1: And the most amazing thing that I always bring up
Speaker 1: about those four and their snap counts that year in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. So Taekwon Lewis five hundred and thirty four snaps,
Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard five hundred and thirty four snaps, Nick Bosa
Speaker 1: five hundred and thirty seven snaps, Jalen Holmes five hundred
Speaker 1: and forty two snaps. Those guys were awesome and they
Speaker 1: could just play wherever. And Larry Johnson just you know,
Speaker 1: he I'm sure he had a spreadsheet going in terms
Speaker 1: of all right, you're in there now, now your turn linebackers,
Speaker 1: what are you thinking?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you got three guys and sincere Johnson, cj
Speaker 2: SONA in Braxton. Remember Braxton is going to miss the
Speaker 2: first first three weeks of camp here, which you know
Speaker 2: he missed summer spring as well. So that to me,
Speaker 2: and obviously he's still got weight to gain he's only
Speaker 2: at two fifteen.
Speaker 3: Now, so that one's not really coming close.
Speaker 2: Sana missed quite a bit of spring, and he's got
Speaker 2: to get quite a bit bigger too, So I don't
Speaker 2: think we're close there.
Speaker 3: And the room is so deep that is ready as
Speaker 3: Sincere is. I just don't know. I just don't know
Speaker 3: that we see it.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if maybe Garrett Stover isn't a
Speaker 2: guy that's kind of a bit of a roadblock this
Speaker 2: year as an ironbuck guy and a guy that everybody loves,
Speaker 2: and maybe they you know, even though if since Youre's
Speaker 2: better and readymore, maybe it's just a little bit of
Speaker 2: a pacification like we see sometimes I'm I think I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go under, But man, I think this is close.
Speaker 2: I think it's similar to Riley Petti. Johnh Way had
Speaker 2: seventy seven or eighty one snaps last year.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's interesting, you know, And the comparisons to Arvel Reese
Speaker 1: are fine. I want people to remember Arvel Reese did
Speaker 1: not play a defensive snap as a true freshman. So
Speaker 1: if Sincere does not play a defensive snap this year,
Speaker 1: you don't need to call them a bust. It's okay,
Speaker 1: but looking through this list since twenty nineteen, there's not
Speaker 1: a single linebacker that has hit one hundred snaps.
Speaker 3: There we go.
Speaker 1: And that's the same for quarterback as well. And to
Speaker 1: give you an idea that it is not easy and
Speaker 1: generally there's somebody going to be in front of you,
Speaker 1: and that's certainly the case now as they have what
Speaker 1: four linebackers that could be starting that they're trying to
Speaker 1: figure out how they're going to get everybody on the field.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm going to go with you. I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody's going to get there. And again, this is
Speaker 1: one of those if somebody does, then something has gone wrong,
Speaker 1: right in terms of an injury or something like that,
Speaker 1: and maybe more than just one something has gone wrong
Speaker 1: because of the depth that they have secondary. How do
Speaker 1: you see it?
Speaker 3: Well, I see us with.
Speaker 2: Three candidates here and that is Blaine brad for, Jay Timmins,
Speaker 2: and Jordan Thomas. Now all three of them at different positions.
Speaker 2: As Jay Timmins, we'll start with him. I think Jay
Speaker 2: Timmins is gonna be the backup star. I think he's
Speaker 2: going to be your number two star, and I think
Speaker 2: that he is gonna go decently over this. I think
Speaker 2: you're gonna give up to one fifty one sixty ish
Speaker 2: and I think he's going to make some impact plays
Speaker 2: and be a guy that everybody is buzzing as as
Speaker 2: we head into the to the following year as a
Speaker 2: guy that you know, ready to ready to make a breakout.
Speaker 2: So I definitely feel good about the over for Jay Timmins.
Speaker 1: What do you think it's gonna be interesting? Because I
Speaker 1: agree he's probably your backup nickel. But if something happens
Speaker 1: to earl little the nickel I think becomes Jermaine Matthews
Speaker 1: and then Jay Timmins stays the backup nickel, that sort
Speaker 1: of thing, or if he's so good that they're just like, no,
Speaker 1: we're ready to go. We don't want to move anybody
Speaker 1: else that things out through the corners. If they if
Speaker 1: they moved Jamie Matthews, I'm with you based on everything
Speaker 1: that people are saying about him inside the building. They
Speaker 1: they really really like him. They wont him on the field.
Speaker 1: The only thing is he's a true freshman and there
Speaker 1: are people in front of him, but he is your
Speaker 1: football players football player type of guy and a guy
Speaker 1: that you can trust like a Jalen McLain as a
Speaker 1: true freshman, he went over one hundred snaps, just somebody
Speaker 1: that is doesn't shy away from anything. And as a
Speaker 1: freshman nickel cornerback who's I don't know, one hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety one pounds or whatever like that, he plays like
Speaker 1: he's two forty and that's somebody that you can always use.
Speaker 1: So I will also go over. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: going to be massively over unless unless maybe they do.
Speaker 1: They're just trying to get more guys out there, and
Speaker 1: like when a game feels more comfortable or feels comfortable
Speaker 1: but not as comfortable as they'd like it to be
Speaker 1: in the past, if it's only twenty one instead of
Speaker 1: forty two or whatever, before they start putting some guys
Speaker 1: out there, but the first year that you trust, go
Speaker 1: ahead and throw them out there, right, that's just right.
Speaker 2: But I want to share this with everybody watching just
Speaker 2: because I thought it was so amazing as you look
Speaker 2: at rivals last two years and number one, the fact
Speaker 2: that Ohio State was able to get the number one
Speaker 2: cornerback in the class two years in a row in
Speaker 2: Devin Sanchez and then Jay Timmons be a rival's internal ranking.
Speaker 2: I was watching those two have a conversation together at
Speaker 2: a camp we were at.
Speaker 3: Standing next to each other.
Speaker 2: You would never believe that those two play the same
Speaker 2: position if you didn't know who they were, because Devin
Speaker 2: is obviously just a massive corner and he's really putting
Speaker 2: on some serious mass now.
Speaker 3: And Jay is just not a big guy.
Speaker 2: And I think that speaks to just how great of
Speaker 2: a football player he is that when we look at
Speaker 2: top ranked corners anymore, they're all six to two six'.
Speaker 2: Three jay is not that and to be that well
Speaker 2: Respected Charles power called him the pound for pound best
Speaker 2: player in the country last year is pretty. Incredible and
Speaker 2: obviously we know he's turned some heads already since he's been,
Speaker 2: there SO.
Speaker 3: I think that's.
Speaker 2: Awesome moving on to corner With Jordan, thomas and this
Speaker 2: an outside. Corner as you look at the depth chart
Speaker 2: With Jermaine, Matthews Devin, Sanchez Dominic, kelly pretty definitive number,
Speaker 2: Three Cam calhoun Or Jordan, thomas where are you at?
Speaker 1: THERE i think by the end of the season It's Jordan,
Speaker 1: thomas and maybe by the middle of the season It's
Speaker 1: Jordan thomas And Cam calhoun has more, Time he's got
Speaker 1: another year if he wants. It i'm just looking now
Speaker 1: Like Aaron scott had one hundred and six naps last,
Speaker 1: year AND i, like why Can't Jordan thomas do? That
Speaker 1: that's kind of HOW i view, This SO i think
Speaker 1: to start, out you may see them ease in to
Speaker 1: the true freshmen and rely on the fourth year guy
Speaker 1: who has been around some. Programs but As Jordan, thomas
Speaker 1: he was banged up in the spring as. Well as
Speaker 1: long as he stays, HEALTHY i think he eventually catches
Speaker 1: and passes Camp. Calhoun AND i think if they play
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen games THAT i can see him hitting that
Speaker 1: one hundred. Mark what about?
Speaker 2: You, YEAH i feel like it's it's so, close, MAN
Speaker 2: i feel like It's razor's. Edge speaking of the, physicality
Speaker 2: built much more Like Devin sanchez as far as, like,
Speaker 2: uh just a twitched up. Athlete this was top one hundred,
Speaker 2: kid but a five star athlete in my. BOOK i
Speaker 2: mean watching him move around was, like oh that's. Different
Speaker 2: that's a different one right. There SO i totally believe in. Him,
Speaker 2: Obviously he's an awesome, kid uh and straight a student like,
Speaker 2: this this is gonna be a dude for The, buckeyes
Speaker 2: AND i think that kids like that generally excel.
Speaker 3: Early So i'm gonna go.
Speaker 2: With Jordan thomas over one hundred snaps and Then Blaine
Speaker 2: bradford as a backup.
Speaker 1: Safety it's it's not a new usual for the backup
Speaker 1: safety to get one hundred. Snaps last year for, Him
Speaker 1: delane And Leroy roker as the backups got eighty one
Speaker 1: and they only. Played Leroy roker played one game in
Speaker 1: the final three for, Him delane did not play Any
Speaker 1: SO i think It's we've seen freshman by back the
Speaker 1: number two guy at safety a number of times over the,
Speaker 1: years including last, year SO i THINK i think one
Speaker 1: hundred is very. ATTAINABLE i think that's a Good i'd
Speaker 1: say if you set the number at the eighty one
Speaker 1: that the backups had last, Year i'd probably go over.
Speaker 1: That AND i also wonder how much do you want
Speaker 1: to Play Leroy roker in complete blowouts because he is
Speaker 1: a valuable member and assuming he doesn't win the job
Speaker 1: From Terry, Moore but either of those guys whoever does
Speaker 1: not win that, job are you going to have them
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter when it's sixty two to three
Speaker 1: over Over, ballstate like probably.
Speaker 2: Not, yeah, YEAH i mean like number, one he is
Speaker 2: ready to, go, Right he's physically ready to, go that's for,
Speaker 2: sure really, smart been performing well since he's been on.
Speaker 2: Campus and then WHEN i look at next, year this
Speaker 2: is the guy that's gonna be relied heavy upon next,
Speaker 2: year AND i think all that factors. In so without a,
Speaker 2: DOUBT i think that That blaine is going to hit
Speaker 2: that as.
Speaker 3: WELL i think this is going to be one of.
Speaker 2: THEM i, mean if we're to put a confidence rating
Speaker 2: on all, These i'd feel pretty darn confident About blaine
Speaker 2: being one of. These probably my top three of the
Speaker 2: guys THAT i think are gonna go over.
Speaker 1: This do you think they learned any of their lessons
Speaker 1: from The Fahim delayne thing last year where maybe if
Speaker 1: they would played him more he would have wanted to,
Speaker 1: stay or if they played him, more would he just
Speaker 1: be more? Expensive and so this is somebody that you
Speaker 1: have to commit to, time, energy and, money because this
Speaker 1: is something we said after a, season you need to
Speaker 1: play these, Guys so you need to so you know
Speaker 1: whether or not you need to pay. Them, basically the
Speaker 1: more you know about these. Freshmen the more you, know, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: okay well we'll go ahead and we'll go ahead and
Speaker 1: pay up and pay them like a starter because he's
Speaker 1: probably going to. Start they can't afford to let any safeties,
Speaker 1: go i'd say after this season because they may be
Speaker 1: losing all three of.
Speaker 3: Them it's.
Speaker 2: Tight it's, tight and again just two committed in the
Speaker 2: class of twenty twenty. Seven one of Them Angelo, smith
Speaker 2: who's a bit of a flyer unless he hits a gross.
Speaker 3: Spurt Eli.
Speaker 2: Johnson you, know he's physically, ready looks like he's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Ready but, hopefully you, know they'll be looking after these
Speaker 2: first three weeks of high school film to try and
Speaker 2: see what they can. Snag but it's tight and tighter
Speaker 2: than it WAS i, think you know last, year and
Speaker 2: maybe not maybe not numbers, wise your felt if it
Speaker 2: feels tighter now than it did. Then but with The
Speaker 2: king delayne it's you, know that was a situation That,
Speaker 2: YEAH i remember we were talking immediately after that on the, show, like,
Speaker 2: man you got to play these guys sport at least
Speaker 2: for yourself to know like is this a guy we
Speaker 2: should invest? In it just didn't feel like we felt
Speaker 2: him enough out, there but when he was.
Speaker 3: Out, there played pretty damn.
Speaker 2: Solid so, DEFINITELY i think that is that is factoring
Speaker 2: into the equation moving forward in all these decisions with
Speaker 2: these young, guys which is WHY i feel more confident
Speaker 2: taking the over on quite a few of them.
Speaker 3: Here AND i, think AS i look at, this do
Speaker 3: you have any more to? That is that all we? Got?
Speaker 1: NO i think that's that's also how many? Total did you?
Speaker 1: Have over one?
Speaker 3: Hundred all?
Speaker 1: Right that? List?
Speaker 2: Yeah SO i Had, Legend bay Brock, Boyd Chris Henry,
Speaker 2: Junior Sam.
Speaker 3: Greer that's four on offense and on.
Speaker 2: DEFENSE i Had Jordan, Thomas Jay, Timmins Blaine, bradford And Carry.
Speaker 1: Wilder all, right so that's, eight matching the eight from
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, one which means in twenty twenty, Nine Ohio
Speaker 1: state will win a national.
Speaker 3: Championship, HEY i like the sound of.
Speaker 1: That you just got to stay, patient, folks and hope
Speaker 1: that these guys are, good but not so good that
Speaker 1: they leave, early just good enough to stick around and
Speaker 1: be outstanding. Seniors that is the magical. Formula anything else
Speaker 1: before we, go that'll do.
Speaker 3: It my man appreciate, it all.
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