WEBVTT 1 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:33.280 Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye with Me podcast. I'm 2 00:00:33.320 --> 00:00:36.640 Tony Gerdaman here once again with Juck Maletti and Jack. 3 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:40.799 How's it going? 4 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:45.240 My longest pause yet fantastic. Tony really excited about this topic. 5 00:00:45.280 --> 00:00:46.039 I love these ones. 6 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:49.479 Yeah. Well, and this one came from the home office 7 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:53.000 of your home office, and you said, let's let's do something. 8 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:55.399 Let's talk about the you know, which freshmen that we 9 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:58.560 think are going to hit one hundred snaps on the season, 10 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:00.560 which caused us both to go back. I can look 11 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:03.960 through the years to see how often does a freshman 12 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:07.439 get one hundred snaps? And as you did your research, 13 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:11.560 was there anything that really jumped out for you as 14 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:14.120 you're doing this, Because one hundred snaps, it's like no 15 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:18.159 big deal, but not a lot of freshmen actually hit 16 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:18.680 that number. 17 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:23.040 One hundred snaps is an elite number. If you were 18 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:25.400 getting one hundred snaps at Ohio State as a freshman, 19 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:28.719 it means they not only believe in you, but they're 20 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:31.239 looking for you to contribute in a big way next year. 21 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:33.519 And at number one. 22 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:35.680 Before I even start that, I just want to say 23 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:38.760 shout out to you for doing all this research. You 24 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:41.079 did that I did that. We didn't even talk about. 25 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:43.760 That is the kind of stuff you get on Buckeye Weekly. 26 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:45.959 Most guys are going to come and spitball it. We 27 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:48.840 went back years and years and years to look at 28 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:52.680 how many Ohio State freshmen normally get one hundred snaps 29 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:55.959 and the trends that I think we've seen here recently. 30 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:58.840 Something we've talked about Ohio State fans for a long 31 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:01.760 time when it comes to Ryan Day and his regime, 32 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:05.959 not playing younger guys, not getting not getting the guys 33 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:08.439 out quite early enough early as some would like in 34 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:11.280 blowout games and getting those younger guys in there and playing. 35 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:14.840 And when we just go back, say, for instance, to 36 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:19.360 twenty twenty two, you ad two freshmen and jyr Brown 37 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:22.800 and Dollan Hayden cracked the one hundred snap club. In 38 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:26.919 twenty twenty three you had three. You had Jermaine Matthews, 39 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:30.840 Carnel Tate, and Malie Cartford. In twenty twenty four you 40 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:35.759 had three again, Jeremiah Smith, Edric Houston and Jalen McLain. 41 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:40.800 And after those guys that cracked the one hundred snap club, 42 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:43.520 there's one or two guys that get to like seventy 43 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:45.759 or so. Then when we roll into the class of 44 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:48.759 twenty twenty five, which was a very good class, we 45 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:52.800 have five guys who made the one hundred snap club 46 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:59.280 in Bo Jackson, Nate Roberts, Isaiah West, Devin Sanchez, Zion Grady. 47 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:02.080 But what really makes the difference here for me, Tony, 48 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:06.439 is you've also got Fahim Delayne, Riley Petti, John Jarquis, 49 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:10.639 Carter tj Alfred, and Quincy Porter all over fifty between fifty. 50 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:14.120 To eighty five. And that is a drastic difference from 51 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:15.319 the previous classes. 52 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:19.360 Well, yeah, I think it. On one hand, it tells 53 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:23.439 you that the class is better, but also a more 54 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:27.080 concerted effort to get guys on the field. And maybe 55 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:31.360 it's because of lost depth or whatever, but I think 56 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:36.639 the opportunity now to play four games that helps without 57 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:38.879 burning a red shirt. And shoot, now there is no 58 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:41.280 red shirt, so you just if they're good to go, 59 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:43.560 you play them, and maybe that will increase some of 60 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:46.240 the numbers as well, because you might get you might 61 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:48.560 get sixty snaps or you know, say forty snaps, but 62 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:50.879 those are in four games and then you're done for 63 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:53.439 the regular season. Now, maybe they can sneak them in 64 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:55.080 there and they don't have to worry about who's not 65 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:58.000 going to be or who's out there. But that twenty 66 00:03:58.039 --> 00:04:06.520 two class of Gyre and Dalan Hayden, Wow, Yeah, that's 67 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:09.439 I'm looking at on the list that I have I 68 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:12.280 put together from since twenty nineteen. And if I were 69 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:13.719 to read it all to you, I'd be like, tell 70 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:16.360 me which of these names don't belong or you know, 71 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:19.199 stick out for the wrong reasons, And it would be 72 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:22.000 two of those guys for sure. And you mentioned that 73 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:24.439 you went back to twenty twenty two and you gave 74 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:27.920 us the numbers of each of those classes, and then 75 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:31.120 you go back to twenty twenty one, and there are 76 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:34.240 eight guys, eight true freshmen in that class that played 77 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:36.920 over one hundred snaps, And I'm gonna give them to you. 78 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:43.000 Trevon Henderson, Marvin Harrison, Amecca Abuka, Donovan Jackson, j T Twee, 79 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:48.720 Molowaw Jack Sawyer, Tyler Williams, Denzel Burke, eight NFL players, 80 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:51.240 most of them drafted in the first half of the 81 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:58.319 NFL Draft. And that's also the what six or seven 82 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:01.839 of those guys were instrumental in Ohio State's national title 83 00:05:02.319 --> 00:05:04.319 in twenty twenty four, with the only guy there not 84 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:09.319 there is Marvin Harrison, who left early. But I don't 85 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:12.800 know if a bunch of freshmen playing is always a 86 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:16.959 sign that when they're seniors they're gonna be good, because shoot, 87 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:18.439 if you're playing a bunch of freshmen, they might be 88 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:22.120 so good they won't see us senior year. But this 89 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:25.879 is clearly this class here twenty twenty one, as we know, 90 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:28.680 I'm not breaking any news here, very instrumental in the 91 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:30.759 national title in twenty twenty. 92 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:34.439 Four, no doubt, no doubt, and five of those guys 93 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:39.319 five stars when we look just a couple of them 94 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:43.040 in Denzel and ty Leak outside the top two hundred 95 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:43.600 in the country. 96 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:44.079 I mean. 97 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:49.120 An instance where, without a doubt, man, that those recruiting 98 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:51.439 rankings were spot on that year. And of course Ohio 99 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:54.480 State plays a big part in making those recruiting rankings 100 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:57.480 come true as well. But yeah, man, you could certainly 101 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:00.720 see that they respected those guys right off the rip, 102 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:03.199 that they came in ready to play. And I think 103 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:05.399 that's something that you and I both noticed. Even with 104 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:11.000 this this freshman class this year is quite a few 105 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:14.439 of these dudes, maybe more than usual look ready to 106 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:18.439 roll right off the rip, and I think that that 107 00:06:18.519 --> 00:06:21.639 is definitely something that stood out even compared to last year. 108 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:23.560 And I thought the class of twenty twenty five was 109 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:25.279 a really nice looking class. 110 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:28.120 Yeah, it's going to be interesting how we will go 111 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:31.839 through these positionally and see what we think, because there's 112 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:35.439 also depth, a lot of depth behind the freshman class 113 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:37.160 or in front of the freshman class, which is going 114 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:39.240 to be hard for them right to make it on 115 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:42.199 the field. I will say also, twenty twenty had two 116 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:46.240 players Jackson Smith and Jigba and Julian Fleming. Twenty nineteen 117 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:51.879 class had four Garrett Wilson, Zach Harrison, Harry Miller, and 118 00:06:52.519 --> 00:06:54.680 Jamison Williams, who played a bunch of Ohio State but 119 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:57.639 never got the ball. And it's pretty funny that he 120 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:00.319 had played. He played more snaps than a Mecca Luka 121 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:03.879 as true freshman, and you just you wouldn't think it 122 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:06.680 based on the way things went. But also they played 123 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:09.639 they played a bunch of snaps in the Ohio State 124 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:12.720 offense in twenty nineteen, that's true, and played a good 125 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:18.519 number of games. But yeah, Harry Miller and Donovan Jackson 126 00:07:18.519 --> 00:07:20.879 the only two offensive linemen in the Ryan day head 127 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:24.920 coaching era to hit that one hundred snap mark and 128 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:27.759 we'll talk a little bit to see. Yeah, that brings up. 129 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:29.639 Maybe the most interesting Why don't we start right with 130 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:33.800 it with the offensive line and Sam Greer. As we 131 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:38.720 look at this offensive line, Sam Greer, I think, is 132 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:40.639 you know, you look at the top three tackles on 133 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:43.839 the team. You got Austin Sarahbeld who, whether he plays 134 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:47.279 tackle or not, between him, Ian Moore and Phil Daniels 135 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:51.399 is definitively the top three. I think in the spring 136 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:57.879 what we saw was Deontae Armstrong outperformed Carter Lowe and 137 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:00.759 Sam Greer outperformed both of them. And I don't see 138 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:03.120 any reason why we're not going to roll in to 139 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:07.160 camp and feel the same way, maybe even in a stronger, 140 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:11.199 you know, stronger about that. So that puts Sam Greer 141 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:15.160 as you're will say, you know, definitive fourth in that scenario. 142 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:19.120 And if he is your definitive fourth and you're. 143 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:22.240 Looking at next year, I'm thinking you're gonna want to 144 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:24.920 get him some reps and I think that he is 145 00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:29.399 probably ready, And I don't know, ton I think I 146 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:31.680 might bet on him getting that one hundred snaps and 147 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:34.399 joining Harry Miller and Donald. 148 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:37.120 That's that's interesting. I was just looking back at twenty 149 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:42.240 twenty four when there were maybe four tackles, but also 150 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:46.120 the numbers are skewed because of Josh Simmons' injury. But 151 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:49.039 even like a guy like George Fitzpatrick played eighty four 152 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:55.360 snaps that year sixteen games, I would say I would 153 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:58.840 say eighty four is more likely than one hundred or 154 00:08:58.919 --> 00:09:03.720 Sam Greer. But you're right in terms of if he's 155 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:05.759 going to be in the lineup next year, you're going 156 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:07.679 to want to know as much about him as possible. 157 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:12.480 And but also you may be returning you're starting left 158 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:15.120 tackle and right tackle next year. When you're talking about 159 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:18.200 Ian Moore and Philip Daniels because they both will have 160 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:21.159 eligibility remaining. But if you want to have your best 161 00:09:21.159 --> 00:09:22.559 five you want, you're going to want to get as 162 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:24.960 much information. So I will say I will take the 163 00:09:25.120 --> 00:09:30.600 under on one hundred from Sam Greer. I don't know 164 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:32.240 that we need to spend too much time on tight 165 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:37.360 end in terms in terms of that, because even though 166 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:39.039 Nate Roberts did it last year, I think he was 167 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:42.399 the only one of the tight ends in this span 168 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:43.879 to go over one hundred snaps. 169 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:47.279 But I will say, if if you were just to say, 170 00:09:47.360 --> 00:09:50.360 pick another one out of the last five seven years, 171 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:52.240 I think Nick Laud would be pretty damn close to 172 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.440 Sam in my opinion, just to say I don't think 173 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:54.879 he's going to. 174 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:56.519 Do it this year either, I agree with you. But 175 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:57.639 he's looking great. 176 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:01.200 Yeah, because I mean, you've got four ahead of him 177 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:04.799 at this point, and it's and and two older guys 178 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:07.919 who are also ahead of him. Yeah, and he's working 179 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:10.879 his way up from seven to to whatever. So that's 180 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:14.039 that's just a tough ask unless he's the best fullback 181 00:10:14.039 --> 00:10:19.720 on the team. But I think a lot of people 182 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:22.679 are wanting to talk about receiver, and that's kind of 183 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:24.759 where I initially went when I was thinking about this, 184 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:28.320 and Chris Henry Jr. I think we just go ahead 185 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:30.320 and put him in there. I think I think he's 186 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:33.919 he's a lock for that. And after doing all of 187 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:36.559 this research and looking at all these names, the receivers 188 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:39.759 like Julian Fleming playing as much as he did in 189 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:43.399 twenty twenty and and that was a COVID year, and 190 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:47.720 the Jamison Williams like if not that, I was on 191 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:52.000 the the fence about brock Boyd. But I'm way over 192 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:54.559 the fence now in terms of one hundred snaps. I 193 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:58.080 think the other the real question is can can your 194 00:10:58.120 --> 00:10:59.200 Quighton Guilford get there? 195 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:03.279 That's that's right where I'm totally with you. Easy over 196 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:06.519 for Chris, easy over for Brock. I think they'll both 197 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:09.480 be uh, you know, guys, that are you know, part 198 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:11.759 of this offense, not just we're trying to get this 199 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:15.879 guy some playing time and Dreck Quayden. Now when you look, 200 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:19.759 is he you know, after Philip Bell puts him at number. 201 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:21.679 What what are we add a number eighth? 202 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.600 And now we're getting into all right now you're kind 203 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:26.840 of forcing it to get him these snaps, and that 204 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:29.960 to me is someone who's probably and I think, and 205 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:34.759 I talked about this recently that the fact that he 206 00:11:34.879 --> 00:11:37.559 wasn't really spoken about a whole lot this spring had 207 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:40.960 so much more to do with Chris and Brock massively. 208 00:11:42.039 --> 00:11:43.200 Obviously, Brock took. 209 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:45.879 All the air out of the building in the first 210 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:48.440 couple of weeks of spring, and then Chris came on. 211 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:52.440 But Jack Quadon Guildford looked really, really good. He looked like, 212 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:55.960 oh wow, that's a dude right there, and he performed 213 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:59.639 really well, but it just wasn't making the headlines like 214 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:02.759 those who were. But I think that I would probably 215 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:06.120 settle into a seventy five over under for him. So 216 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:08.759 I'm gonna take the under one hundred, but definitely over 217 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:10.519 for Brock and Chris. 218 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:12.480 Yeah. No, I'm with you on that one. I was 219 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:16.639 looking at the last two years, five receivers total have 220 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:20.120 been over one hundred, but that's the Brian hartline rotation. 221 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:27.120 Cortes han Yeah, Cortez Hankton will play more, guys. You know, 222 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:29.720 I don't know how much deeper they'll go past five, 223 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:31.919 but I think those five will play more than they 224 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:35.039 did they have in the past. And you know, if 225 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:37.960 Quincy Porter played fifty seven snaps last year, got a 226 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:40.799 little bit banged up, David Adolf played ninety eight, so 227 00:12:40.840 --> 00:12:45.480 he almost hit that that that helps that he started 228 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:47.200 a game and got like fifty snaps in one of 229 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:50.320 those games, right, But I'm I think seventy five. I 230 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:52.039 think that would be a very good number for jack 231 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:55.399 Quad and Guildford as your number three freshman Max geting 232 00:12:55.440 --> 00:13:00.000 some snaps. Yeah, so, and then moving to running back, 233 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:04.320 it's it's one of two guys. It's Legend Beay is 234 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:08.960 certainly for me over Favorite Key, certainly for me under 235 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:12.960 right now, because he's the what the sixth guy? So 236 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:15.799 we we did a show, you and I did a 237 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:17.720 show on what we expect from Legend Bay. You can 238 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:21.159 go find that in the Buckeye Weekly Feed. But I 239 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:23.240 don't know, give me, give me an over under on 240 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:27.039 how many snaps for Legend Bay this year, because are 241 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:29.320 you disagreeing with me that he's gonna go over one hundred? 242 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:31.120 Are you right now are you putting your foot down 243 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:33.679 and saying no to Legend Bay playing this year over 244 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:34.919 one hundred snaps? 245 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:37.759 I think we put the we put the line at 246 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:39.120 what six touches a game? 247 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:42.480 So if we're talking six touches, we're way over right. 248 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:47.960 We're like, like, what twenty five, two fifty eight? If 249 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:49.759 he why can't he do what Dylan Hayden did? 250 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:53.840 Right there you go. 251 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:56.799 But I'm also with you with Favorite Key, who I 252 00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:59.360 thought really was impressive in the spring. 253 00:13:59.759 --> 00:14:01.360 But he's got, you know. 254 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:04.120 Obviously, just a pile of dudes ahead of him that 255 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:07.159 are grown men. And he was seventeen in the spring, 256 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:10.440 so he's kind of ways to go, probably about one 257 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:12.480 hundred and eighty five pounds. Then we'll see what he 258 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:15.600 put on over the summer. He's probably quite a bit bigger. 259 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:17.840 He's a freak athlete. He'll be really good at some point, 260 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:20.200 but not gonna happen for him this year. So with 261 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:23.440 you on the over for legend and the under. 262 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:26.480 For favor, do we need to talk about quarterback or 263 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:29.600 should we move to defense? Because I don't see Luke 264 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:35.919 Faye getting one hundred snaps unless there is something tragic, drastic, 265 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:38.360 whatever going on. I just don't see it for him. 266 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:41.759 All got to go to all gotta go to Tavian. Yeah, 267 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:43.480 so defensive line, give me your thoughts. 268 00:14:44.120 --> 00:14:47.759 So, man, this one's tough because you've got three guys 269 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:52.120 that all three you know, actually the two that look 270 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:57.679 more physically ready right now. Jamiir Perez certainly, who came 271 00:14:57.720 --> 00:15:01.960 in at three point sixty is now at three but leaner, 272 00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:04.200 and you know it was just baby fat, and he's 273 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:09.000 moving a lot better and he certainly looks ready. And 274 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:12.360 then you got a manual ruffin at three hundred pounds. 275 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:16.440 He's so long, moving really really fast. But both of 276 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:19.279 us were most impressed with the Mary Simeon. Of the 277 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:22.240 three of them over the spring, one of the players 278 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:25.320 that is that I'm looking most forward to seeing this week, 279 00:15:25.799 --> 00:15:28.720 to see if we come away from this week's camp 280 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:30.559 feeling the same way that we did coming out of 281 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:35.840 spring with those three guys. So if we're going off that, 282 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:39.320 I'm going to take just one of these guys over. 283 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:41.080 I can't see more than one of them getting it, 284 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:43.919 So I'm going to have to go with the Maury 285 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:47.519 Simeon for my over because I just think he looks 286 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:49.879 the most ready to make an impact. 287 00:15:51.240 --> 00:15:55.039 Last year, they had four defensive tackles go over one 288 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:57.039 hundred snaps, and it was the four that you know, 289 00:15:57.399 --> 00:16:00.279 Will Smith, Taiwan Malone, edarck Houston and Kayden mcdonay, Ronald 290 00:16:01.080 --> 00:16:04.519 Jark Quiz Carter with fifty one as a freshman trade 291 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:10.120 you note him ten and the other freshman you know him. 292 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:13.440 He loves Maxwell Roy. Yeah, I was gonna say Max Riley, 293 00:16:13.480 --> 00:16:15.000 and I knew it wasn't right. He's of course, he 294 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:18.200 did not play and he's off to UCLA, if I recall. So, 295 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:21.600 I think if Carter wouldn't have been injured, he could 296 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:25.639 have really gotten close to one hundred snaps and he 297 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:27.600 was I mean, he was the number five defensive tackle. 298 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:31.000 He moved past Jason Moore, so that possibility was there. 299 00:16:31.399 --> 00:16:33.679 I am with you. I want to see more from 300 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:36.759 Damari Simeon to see if this was just a couple 301 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:41.120 of really good spring practices and see where he is now. 302 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:47.200 In twenty twenty four, they had five defensive tackles go 303 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:50.000 over on there, one hundred snaps and you had Taiwan 304 00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:53.120 Malone at ninety five. So there is a possibility there 305 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:58.480 for one of these freshmen to get in there. I'm 306 00:16:58.519 --> 00:17:03.120 gonna I'm going to stay. I'm gonna say no on 307 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:04.200 any of those guys. 308 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:06.599 You know, I want to change my vote, Tony, Okay, 309 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:10.160 because here's why. Because I I think that what we're 310 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:12.359 gonna see is by the time we get to the season, 311 00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:16.559 Uh well, I feel, you know, great about Demory being 312 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:19.200 able to do that right now, like one of these 313 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:22.400 one of these other two potentially both of them also 314 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:25.319 get up to that level. Yeah, and then it splits 315 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:27.519 the snaps between because they want them all to go 316 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:31.559 get twenty five thirty snaps and and it and it 317 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:33.839 just eats into what one of them could potentially do, 318 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:36.079 so all in all, it's a it's a better thing 319 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:38.960 that they're all getting in there because they're all ready 320 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:41.000 to handle it, at least two of them. 321 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:42.000 But I think that. 322 00:17:42.039 --> 00:17:44.559 Takes Damori unders, so I'm gonna go under for all 323 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:45.480 three of these guys. 324 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:48.440 Yeah, And I think right Larry Johnson would take that 325 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:50.400 as well, as long as he's as long as they 326 00:17:50.440 --> 00:17:52.880 getting some from something from Jason Moore, you know, that 327 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:56.279 would be great if if that happened. 328 00:17:56.440 --> 00:17:58.119 Do you want to do the Jason Moore over under 329 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:00.200 one hundred snaps? 330 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:07.039 We'll move on. We don't need that. But yeah, I 331 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:10.680 like that thought that they're just gonna take snaps away 332 00:18:10.680 --> 00:18:14.319 from each other. And frankly, if they do, that's good. Yeah, 333 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:18.599 and you go from there defensive end the way I 334 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:22.759 see it, And I'm gonna have Cary Wilder over that number. 335 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:25.519 I think this is what This is something that Tom 336 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:27.559 and I have been talking about. If he can if 337 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:30.200 you can get what you got out of Zion Grady 338 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:32.160 last year in terms of snaps, and that was I 339 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:34.519 think a one hundred and three or one hundred and 340 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:38.680 four snaps last year, they and I think you would 341 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:41.599 probably do more with him because he's more physically ready 342 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:44.960 than Zion Grady was last year. I think he is 343 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:48.000 the easiest pick. Do you do you agree? Do you 344 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:49.880 see anybody else getting there? Because I think Drake Quinn 345 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:50.440 needs some time. 346 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:58.359 Uh Dre definitely need some time. And Cary I am 347 00:18:58.680 --> 00:19:02.160 like his jersey, he is right here. I'm so high 348 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:04.519 on this kid, Like, I mean, comparing him to his 349 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:07.039 Ion Grady is like, that's not even a comp really, 350 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:11.279 but he has more guys ahead of him. But just 351 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:13.400 like from the from the standpoint of like coming in 352 00:19:13.519 --> 00:19:17.000 ready to go, this kid, I mean he's already over Grady. 353 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:21.440 To me, I absolutely think there there's no way, there's 354 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:24.599 no way, barring injury, that they don't get him on 355 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:28.640 the field because he is just that exciting and it's 356 00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:29.440 gonna be something. 357 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:31.400 I think he might even hit two hundred. 358 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:37.880 Wow. So if I were to say, you know, put 359 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:39.519 the number at one fifty, you're going over that. 360 00:19:39.759 --> 00:19:41.119 I'm going over one fifty for sure. 361 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:44.519 Okay, all right, I'm looking right now to see what 362 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:48.519 the total snaps for Chase Young as a true freshman 363 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:52.279 were in twenty seventeen, and it was one hundred and 364 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:57.400 ninety six. Okay, so that's all. That's all you got 365 00:19:57.519 --> 00:19:59.440 to live up to, just a little bit of Chase Young, 366 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:03.480 big deal. And the crazy thing about that year is 367 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:05.640 you had Jalen Holmes, you had Nick Bosa, Sam Hubbard, 368 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:08.960 Taekwon Lewis. Now the good thing is they also played inside. 369 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:10.920 And the most amazing thing that I always bring up 370 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:14.039 about those four and their snap counts that year in 371 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:18.480 twenty seventeen. So Taekwon Lewis five hundred and thirty four snaps, 372 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:22.400 Sam Hubbard five hundred and thirty four snaps, Nick Bosa 373 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:26.079 five hundred and thirty seven snaps, Jalen Holmes five hundred 374 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:30.000 and forty two snaps. Those guys were awesome and they 375 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:33.559 could just play wherever. And Larry Johnson just you know, 376 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:36.119 he I'm sure he had a spreadsheet going in terms 377 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:40.319 of all right, you're in there now, now your turn linebackers, 378 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:40.920 what are you thinking? 379 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:46.240 Yeah, so you got three guys and sincere Johnson, cj 380 00:20:46.440 --> 00:20:50.440 SONA in Braxton. Remember Braxton is going to miss the 381 00:20:50.519 --> 00:20:55.519 first first three weeks of camp here, which you know 382 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:58.960 he missed summer spring as well. So that to me, 383 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:01.960 and obviously he's still got weight to gain he's only 384 00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:03.160 at two fifteen. 385 00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:06.680 Now, so that one's not really coming close. 386 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:09.920 Sana missed quite a bit of spring, and he's got 387 00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:11.640 to get quite a bit bigger too, So I don't 388 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:12.599 think we're close there. 389 00:21:13.200 --> 00:21:16.880 And the room is so deep that is ready as 390 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:20.319 Sincere is. I just don't know. I just don't know 391 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:21.039 that we see it. 392 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:23.720 And I don't know if maybe Garrett Stover isn't a 393 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:26.519 guy that's kind of a bit of a roadblock this 394 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:29.440 year as an ironbuck guy and a guy that everybody loves, 395 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:31.880 and maybe they you know, even though if since Youre's 396 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:34.440 better and readymore, maybe it's just a little bit of 397 00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:38.839 a pacification like we see sometimes I'm I think I'm 398 00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:41.200 gonna go under, But man, I think this is close. 399 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:43.000 I think it's similar to Riley Petti. Johnh Way had 400 00:21:43.319 --> 00:21:45.240 seventy seven or eighty one snaps last year. 401 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:45.759