WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:05.360 It's Night Size, Dan Ray, Dan Razy, Boston's news Radio. 2 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:08.240 Thank you very much, Madison. As we move into a 3 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:12.279 Wednesday night, I'm halfway through the week now and we 4 00:00:13.119 --> 00:00:15.320 have a very interesting program coming up tonight. We're going 5 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:18.160 to talk a little bit later on about the Papal Conclave, 6 00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:22.079 which is underway now formally in Rome. We'll also talk 7 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:26.879 about the possibility of banning cell phones in Massachusetts schools, 8 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:32.320 which I think is a pretty good idea. The President 9 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:36.560 of the Massachusetts State Senate talked about that today and 10 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:40.520 there are certainly other issues we could get into as well. 11 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:42.359 My name's Dan Ray. I'm the host of night Side. 12 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:44.479 I want to welcome Rob Brooks is off tonight, and 13 00:00:44.520 --> 00:00:48.960 so Brian but is running the board. Be kind to Brian. 14 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:51.880 I think this is his first night. He's a veteran, 15 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:55.799 but this is his first night running the board solo 16 00:00:56.039 --> 00:00:58.640 for Nightside. So we're in good hands with Brian, and 17 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:02.799 you are in great here ends here on Nightside. We 18 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:06.200 are going to start off our first hour, which we 19 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:10.239 interview four guests with I think sometimes really vital information, 20 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:14.560 and tonight, certainly this one is of vital importance. May 21 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:18.599 is National Stop the Bleed Month, a time designated educate 22 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:22.799 the public about bleeding, control severe bleeding from trauma. It's 23 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:25.760 a leading cause of preventable death for people of all ages. 24 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:30.640 With me is doctor David Shapiro. He is the vice 25 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:35.439 chair of the Stop the Bleed Committee. Doctor Shapiro, Welcome 26 00:01:35.480 --> 00:01:38.359 to Nightside. How are you this evening? Doing well? 27 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:39.840 Thank you, Dan, thanks for having me. 28 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:43.359 So this is Stop the Bleed A is associated with 29 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:47.719 the American College of Surgeons. And I think all of 30 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:53.799 us have heard about this situation where someone you know 31 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:56.560 is bleeding badly, and I think what most of us 32 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:59.439 only know is to put some pressure on it and 33 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:01.879 try to prevent the bleeding. But I assume it involves 34 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:02.680 a lot more than that. 35 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:07.000 You'd be surprised Dan, how little more it includes. But 36 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:09.599 that's an important step to start with. What we try 37 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:12.439 to talk about is the fact that bleeding is the 38 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:15.199 number one cause of preventable death after injury, just like 39 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:18.159 you said, and it means that people who are bystanders 40 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:22.280 should intervene when they can. This training offers that opportunity 41 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:23.919 to learn what to do in that situation. 42 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:28.680 So the training is free or available. As I understand 43 00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:31.159 that what how did How does one get that training? 44 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:34.479 Is it complicated? You have to go to a seminar somewhere? 45 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:37.280 Is it available online? What's what's the deal in that regard? 46 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:40.000 There's a few ways to go get trained. One is 47 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:42.479 you can go online to Stop the Bleed dot org 48 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:45.680 slash save a Life, and there's actually a link that 49 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:48.840 gives you opportunities based on where you are, to get 50 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:52.080 trained by your local hospital or some local organizations that 51 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:55.280 do it. Most training available in the US is free. 52 00:02:55.479 --> 00:02:57.479 All the training that I do, and I'm I'm in 53 00:02:57.479 --> 00:02:59.800 the West Hartford, Connecticut area. All the training that we 54 00:02:59.879 --> 00:03:02.280 do here is free. And I've actually been in Boston 55 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:05.159 and the Boston area and trained up there, always for free. 56 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:07.280 So people can go to the website, they can ask 57 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:10.280 their local hospital or their local trauma surgeons and they'll 58 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:11.120 teach them how. 59 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:14.680 The Stop the Bleed website, which I've looked at and 60 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:17.599 I'm looking at right now. Four million people have learned 61 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:20.080 to stop the bleed. How long has this program been 62 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:23.120 in existence? How did you get full million trained that quickly? 63 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:26.439 Well, it's been about ten years since the program started, 64 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:28.840 it'll be ten years later this year, and it started 65 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:32.080 really as grassroots, but the goal is to get more 66 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:35.280 people trained every day. Five million is a wonderful number, 67 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:37.000 but it's a drop in the bucket compared to how 68 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:39.759 many people there are around, and we want everyone to 69 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:42.240 know how to do this. Just like if you've collapsed 70 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:44.919 on the street, someone comes over, checks your pulse and 71 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:48.280 then can start CPR. This is like thinking about CBR 72 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:48.960 for bleeding. 73 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:51.800 Now, I know a lot of people are going to 74 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:54.599 get freaked out, and I'm sure that a lot of 75 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:57.080 people will recoil from that if they see someone who, 76 00:03:57.159 --> 00:03:59.599 let's say, has been hit by a car or stuff 77 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:04.599 at a of a difficult injury and they're bleeding. How 78 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:07.199 do you get people over that psychological hump. 79 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:10.479 Well, I think the most important thing that we can 80 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:13.599 talk about there is the being ready. You would never 81 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:18.360 hesitate to help your your spouse, your child, your brother's sister, 82 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:21.240 et cetera. You'd always go into help. And we'd always 83 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:24.040 expect that at the scene of any bleeding emergency, or 84 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:26.920 any crash or any accident, that someone would be there 85 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:29.439 to help our loved ones. So we want to provide 86 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:32.120 that kind of reciprocal care. If I'm there to help, 87 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:34.560 I'm going to help. And that's why this program is 88 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:37.959 so important. It's easy and it's straightforward. The training is 89 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:40.600 less than an hour, and it's once and you know 90 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:41.240 the material. 91 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:47.040 Wow, this sounds like a great program and it's one 92 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:50.959 that virtually everybody can take advantage of. I know that 93 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:54.360 every month we have you know, different causes in different 94 00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:58.439 months and all that, but May is national Stop the 95 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:01.519 Bleed Month. In May twenty second is National Stop the 96 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:04.279 Bleed Day. So all you have to do is go 97 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:08.199 to the website Stop the Bleed dot org. It looks 98 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:10.160 to me some of the photographs that I see in 99 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:14.040 the website, everybody seems to be working with it looks 100 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:16.759 like what I guess is a limb or you know, 101 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:20.480 you know, uh, you're not obviously using human beings here. 102 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:23.079 What are they working on there? I noticed that they're 103 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:27.519 pressing down on this, uh sort of you know, light pink. 104 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:31.160 We we actually offer them in all colors and they're 105 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:33.920 meant to represent all people. These are they're actually a 106 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:36.959 prosthetic limb. They're just a piece of great foam rubber 107 00:05:37.160 --> 00:05:39.360 that's designed to be the same shape as a leg 108 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:41.920 or arm, so that we can teach people the three 109 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:45.759 important steps of stop the bleed. Those those techniques. Those 110 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:48.959 three techniques include direct pressure, like you've already said, okay, 111 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:53.120 packing where we actually forced gauz inside a wound to 112 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:56.000 help put pressure on the inside. And then the application 113 00:05:56.079 --> 00:05:59.040 of a tourniquit, something that people have you know, had 114 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:01.680 in their in their scout years a long time ago. 115 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:04.759 And people learned to do the tourniquets years ago, but 116 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:06.639 they kind of went by the wayside for a while, 117 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:09.279 and they're back as of the last ten years. So 118 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:11.319 those three techniques are what we teach. 119 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:15.040 Yeah, it looks pretty it looks pretty simple. It looks 120 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:19.199 like people are enjoying this process. And again I want 121 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:21.639 to encourage folks because hey, it could be me tomorrow 122 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:24.759 that's on the street somewhere impleting and I want people 123 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:27.519 to help me stop the bleed. Dot organ. I'm sure 124 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:30.920 that everyone tonight, if it was, as you said, their 125 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:34.279 spouse or their child or a dear friend, they would 126 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:37.399 want some stranger to help. And this makes all the 127 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:40.959 sense in the world. Do you have last question, doctor Shapiro. 128 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:45.040 Do you have any idea? And I don't script these questions. 129 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:47.000 I make them up as they go along. Do you 130 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:50.680 have any idea. How many people's lives may have already 131 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:52.839 been saved as a result of this program. 132 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:56.120 Well, it's a difficult number to get to because if 133 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:59.720 someone's life is saved, it's usually because somebody intervened early, 134 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:03.319 and that's important. But we know that there are thousands 135 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:06.759 upon thousands of these bleeding emergencies every day, and we 136 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:09.480 see them all over the world, and they include things 137 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:11.839 as simple as an accident with a knife for a window, 138 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:15.519 or a car crash or even violence. All those things 139 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:18.319 are amenable to this treatment. So that's what's important, is 140 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:21.480 being ready because just like for CPR, we never want 141 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:22.959 to have to use it, but if we're put of 142 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:24.480 the situation, we should be ready. 143 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:27.199 Yeah. You know the reason I asked that question is 144 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:29.560 many years ago, got to be probably close to thirty 145 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:32.800 years ago. I was in a restaurant and a guy 146 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:36.199 stood up and he was he had some food stuck. 147 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:38.399 He couldn't make any noise, and I knew right away 148 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:40.959 this guy's choking, and I went overtook me three times, 149 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:43.319 but the third time was a charm, and he popped 150 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:46.079 a piece of chicken out by using the Hemelick maneuver. 151 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:48.959 I just responded I had just done a story on it, 152 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:50.959 and I was in television at the time and had 153 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:52.920 learned the Heimlich maneuver, the idea of you know, you 154 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:55.040 take and you get it right underneath the sternum and 155 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:59.800 you really give them a jolt and the Heimlich maneuver. 156 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:02.920 They keep track of how many people because I got 157 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:05.160 this award from them, a certificate and all of that. 158 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:07.839 So maybe that's something that you folks would stop the 159 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:11.079 bleed might consider to do when someone actually it's proven 160 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:13.680 that they that they saved someone, a little bit of 161 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:15.360 acknowledgment might go a long way. 162 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:18.360 I totally agree with you and thank you for saving 163 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:20.319 that life, because I'll bet when you got trained to 164 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:23.680 do the heim mcaneuver, it wasn't that day you remembered 165 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:25.759 and it was really important there. 166 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:27.879 Yeah, it was a few weeks prior, but it was 167 00:08:27.920 --> 00:08:31.639 pretty simple. It's like, you know, you know, basically, you know, 168 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:33.960 you know what it is. You take your thumb, the 169 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:37.440 the the the the knuckle on your thumb and you 170 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:39.600 drive it up under the asternam. I just sort of 171 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:42.759 did it myself, and it took me three shots at it, 172 00:08:42.799 --> 00:08:44.919 to be honest with it, didn't it didn't work perfectly, 173 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:49.080 but it's it's saved when one person's life. So anyway, 174 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:52.559 thank you so much, doctor Shapiro. I really appreciate you 175 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:54.919 taking the time tonight and I'm going to check out 176 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:56.919 the course myself and I been well. 177 00:08:56.960 --> 00:08:59.360 Thanks Dan, Thanks for spreading the word. It's so important all. 178 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:02.360 Of us pleasure, my pleasure. Thank you so much. Well, 179 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:07.879 that's a great That was really something that I thought 180 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:11.240 was really interesting, and I hope you find I hope 181 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:14.080 you found that as interesting as I did. Uh. Let's 182 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:18.960 in a moment. We're going to talk about a program 183 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:21.799 that maybe is not as dramatic, but equally important. It's 184 00:09:21.799 --> 00:09:24.919 called Operation Warm. Stay with us. We're going to talk 185 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:30.039 with a Partnership Direct Partnership's director of Operation Warm, Rich Lally. 186 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:34.440 Well than two thirds of kids in under resourced communities 187 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:38.120 were shoes that are too small. Uh, we'll be right 188 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:39.960 back here on Nightside. My name is Dan Ray. You 189 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:42.039 listen to WBZ in Boston. 190 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:46.440 If you're on night Side with Dan Ray on WZ 191 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:49.279 Boston's news radio. 192 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:53.600 Well, we talked briefly during the break the fact that 193 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:58.519 two thirds of kids in underresourced communities we're shoes that 194 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:00.440 are too small the right pair of shoe whose big 195 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:04.960 deal for growing feet? Nonprofit Operation Warm shares how new 196 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:08.679 footwork can boost confidence, school attendance, and well being. And 197 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:11.759 they also do more than just shoes with us, as 198 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:15.759 Rich Lally Partnerships, Director of Operation Warm tell us about 199 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:19.480 the organization generally Rich and then let's talk about what 200 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:21.600 is needed at this time of year, what is most 201 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:22.879 needed at this time of year. 202 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:27.039 Sure, Dan, thanks for having me on. So Operation Warm 203 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:31.679 is a nationally active nonprofit organization. We've been around for 204 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:34.600 a little over twenty five years, and we provide brand 205 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:37.840 new clothing, specifically brand new shoes and brand new winter 206 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:42.159 codes to children living in need. Last year, across North America, 207 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:46.879 we served about one point two million children, and in 208 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:50.360 the Boston area we did tens of thousands of children. 209 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:54.200 So shoes are what's really in need at this time 210 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:57.279 of the year. Obviously we're beyond the coach season at 211 00:10:57.320 --> 00:11:01.759 this time, but you know, kids grow pretty rapidly and 212 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:04.320 they'll go through a pair of shoes every four months 213 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:06.360 or so when they're in that growth spurt. 214 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:10.679 So maybe the shoes that they got less September for 215 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:15.360 back to school now are too small. 216 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:17.879 Now you say they're too small. 217 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:21.279 You said North America. Does does this program extend beyond 218 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:24.159 the borders of the US to Canada, Mexico or or 219 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:25.360 was that we go into. 220 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:29.480 We go into Canada. We're primarily in the United States, 221 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:32.240 but we've got a fair number of partners in Canada 222 00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:32.759 as well. 223 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:36.039 Okay, now I assume you're not looking for old shoes. 224 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:39.080 I assume you said that you're you're looking for new shoes. 225 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:42.720 Right, Well, we provide new shoes, but actually we don't 226 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:45.440 at the scale that we're operating, we don't take in 227 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:51.679 donations of goods. We have them manufactured for us, and 228 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:54.720 so we have them packaged in a way that facilitates 229 00:11:55.039 --> 00:12:00.720 distributing coats or shoes to children at distribution events. We 230 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.120 make sure the quality is all up to snuff. We 231 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:05.799 have a lot of lots of different colors that the 232 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.799 kids can choose from. And the way we handle all 233 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:13.879 of that is through the financial contributions that we get 234 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:18.840 from a wide range of community partners and foundations and 235 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:22.919 carring individuals and corporations and even some governmental units. 236 00:12:23.159 --> 00:12:26.320 Okay, so if folks want to I don't have any 237 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:29.240 corporations listening to me or governmental units, but I do 238 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:33.679 have Yeah, that's individuals. If there are individuals out there 239 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:36.759 who would like to help you out, what is the 240 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:39.200 best way to be in contact. I assume you have 241 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:40.080 a good website. 242 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:44.039 Yeah, we have a great website. It's operationworm dot org. 243 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:48.960 That's Operation warm Warms and not cold warm dot org. 244 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:52.360 And you know when you're there, you can make a 245 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:55.360 contribution if you want, twenty five dollars will provide a 246 00:12:55.399 --> 00:12:58.080 pair of shoes and two pairs of socks that have 247 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:01.919 a retail value of just about fifty to a child 248 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:05.159 in need. The other thing is that if your listeners 249 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.879 are a part of a church that likes to give 250 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:10.799 back in their community, or maybe it's a union local. 251 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:14.279 We work with a lot of union firefighters, and we 252 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:16.480 work with a couple of other unions as well. I 253 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:20.759 think we work with the electrical workers in the Boston area. 254 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:23.000 Or if they're worth some kind of a club like 255 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:25.759 a rotary club or a Kawanas club that does a 256 00:13:25.759 --> 00:13:28.759 lot of service work in their community. Those organizations can 257 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:31.000 sign up to be a community partner and they raise 258 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:34.559 funds and then they donate the funds to us. But 259 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:38.679 tell us what local beneficiary organization they would like to 260 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:41.639 coach or shoes to go to. And oftentimes those members 261 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:44.879 then will go to the organization and literally help the 262 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:47.480 kids pick out their own shoes and help them try 263 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:49.919 them on, make sure they fit properly. And I'll tell 264 00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:52.200 you what, that's a fantastic experience to do that. 265 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:57.559 So Operation One, how long have you folks been operating? 266 00:13:57.559 --> 00:13:58.480 How long you've been around? 267 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:02.200 Yeah, we started in nineteen ninety eight when our founder 268 00:14:02.279 --> 00:14:04.919 saw some kids without coats on a day when it 269 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:07.159 was snowing in the Philadelphia area. He bought every coat 270 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:09.519 at the apartment stored in fifty eight coats. And last 271 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:12.240 year we did over a million coats and two hundred 272 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:14.039 and twenty five thousand pairs of shoes. 273 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:17.960 So you have you the need continues, but you have 274 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:20.840 grown to try to fill that need. That sounds oh yes, 275 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:21.639 that's a great shot. 276 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:24.279 I mean in the Boston area alone, last year we 277 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:26.759 had requests for eight thousand pairs of shoes and we 278 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:30.320 were only able to provide shoes to sixteen hundred kids. 279 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:35.919 So nationally the numbers are huge. It's you know, something 280 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:40.000 like seven hundred thousand pairs of shoes were requested across 281 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:43.200 the country and six hundred thousand of those went unfulfilled. 282 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:46.279 Wow boy, But you know again, the fact that you 283 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:51.159 were out there doing it and with the help of individuals, 284 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:53.240 I assume you were a five O one C three. 285 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:56.919 So any donations that listeners make is it is a 286 00:14:57.000 --> 00:15:00.840 charitable deduction, assuming they adamized on their taxes. 287 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:04.720 That's correct. Yeah, we're definitely a five oh one C three. 288 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:08.960 There's no profits associated with our company at all. Every 289 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:12.879 penny that we bring in is used to order more 290 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:15.320 coats or more shoes and then get them to more 291 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:20.159 beneficiary organizations like schools and nonprofit organizations that serve low 292 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:21.080 income families. 293 00:15:21.720 --> 00:15:24.000 Sometimes. I know the groups that I talk to, like 294 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:27.399 you always like to acknowledge if they have a huge 295 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:33.159 corporate sponsor. I'm just wondering if there's any particular organization 296 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:36.320 that you'd like to cite for being supportive. Again, I'm 297 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:38.759 the doc here, but I just want to always ask. 298 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:42.480 Now, we've got three that I'd like to mention. Subaru. 299 00:15:42.519 --> 00:15:45.159 We're one of their six court charities and they do 300 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:47.360 a program. Every one of their dealers does a program 301 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:51.279 with US across the country, and FADEX is Hughes. They 302 00:15:51.320 --> 00:15:54.679 do about seventy eight to eighty different schools all across 303 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:57.320 North America. Every kid in the school gets a brand 304 00:15:57.320 --> 00:15:59.000 new code or a brand new pair of shoes, are 305 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:03.799 both from their employees. And then close to you is TJX. 306 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:07.840 I think their headquarters in scenario. Yeah, right, you've got 307 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:11.440 one of their executives is on our board and they're 308 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:14.360 growing with us and doing programs in the cities where 309 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:15.759 they have distribution centers. 310 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:18.399 Well, I'm glad I asked that question. We don't script 311 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:21.039 questions here, and it's just what comes up in my mind. 312 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:23.879 So that's why I appreciate the opportunity, because those folks 313 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:26.000 really really help make it happen. But so you know, 314 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:28.679 I found I've been doing this. I've been in with 315 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:32.240 Operation Warm since two thousand and nine and so quite 316 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:34.759 a while. And what I find is when you're trying 317 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:38.279 to make an impact in the community, you need lots 318 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:40.960 of donations. You need lots of small donations and a 319 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:44.120 few big donations, and you know, every little bit helps. 320 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:46.320 So twenty five dollars provides a brand new pair of 321 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:48.840 shoes with two pairs of socks to it. 322 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:51.960 That's great. That sounds great. I really enjoyed our conversation. 323 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:56.759 You're doing great work. Rich Lally Partnerships Director Operation Warm 324 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:59.879 operationwarm dot org. Thanks so much. Appreciate it. 325 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:01.600 Appreciate it. Great evening. 326 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:03.559 Right back at you. Okay, when we get back, going 327 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:06.559 to talk about a battle up in Lowell about allowing 328 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:10.119 underage patrons at Lowell pubs. We're going to talk with 329 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:14.200 a reporter for the Lowell Son, Melanie Gilbert. It's interesting. 330 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:17.400 I read the story, I got some questions, and Melanie 331 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:20.359 has the answers. My name's Dan Ray. You're listening WBZ 332 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:22.519 in Boston. Of course, we're in iHeart radio station. You 333 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:26.000 can pull down the new improved iHeart app. You can 334 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:30.000 make WBZ your number one presets. So wherever you are, 335 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:33.000 anywhere in the world, anytime during the day or night, 336 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:36.119 you'll be able to get to us. You'll just be 337 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:38.640 a fingertip away. We're just a couple of minutes away 338 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:40.240 right after the news here at the bottom of the ear. 339 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:42.480 My name's Dan Ray, and you're listening to nights Side. 340 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:47.200 If you're on Night Side with Dan Ray, I'm WBZ, 341 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:50.119 Boston's news radio. 342 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:54.000 All right. Melanie Gilbert is a reporter for the Lowell Son. 343 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:56.240 Hi Melanie, Welcome to Nightside. How are you tonight? 344 00:17:57.160 --> 00:17:59.400 Well, hey Dan, this is my first time on your show, 345 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:00.599 so thank you for inviting me. 346 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:04.279 Well, I'm sure it won't be your last, because we 347 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:07.359 really do like we like the Lowell Sun. It's it's 348 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:10.519 a great city and it's a great newspaper and they 349 00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:13.359 have great reporters and so you've done this story than you. 350 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:17.920 Underage patrons are welcome at Lowell pubs. I read the article, 351 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:24.279 which is interesting, and I'd love to hear your take 352 00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:29.759 on it because I guess the loophole of the pub 353 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:35.200 is as long as they serve food, a pub, it 354 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:38.519 oftentimes could be just a pub's not a bar. I 355 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:41.119 guess is that the distinction we're talking about here. 356 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:44.240 Well, you know, it's a really interesting story. And I 357 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:46.400 got to tell you, Dan, I cover the municipal beat 358 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:48.839 and Lowell, which you know sounds like a big yawner, right, 359 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:51.759 you know. I cover the Health Department, the school committee 360 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:53.839 and the city council and stuff like that, and one 361 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:56.480 of my beats is the license commission. But I'm telling 362 00:18:56.480 --> 00:18:58.680 you that's where the magic happens. You know, these cities 363 00:18:58.759 --> 00:19:01.759 run on these little these little municipal meetings where all 364 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:05.079 this stuff goes down. So this was a hearing, a 365 00:19:05.160 --> 00:19:08.200 violation hearing for the Blue Shamrock, which is the guy 366 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:10.200 who's been in business for like thirty years. And Nick 367 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:13.519 petrakis he's got he's a larger than life personality, really 368 00:19:13.519 --> 00:19:16.839 invested in the community. Runs a lot of donation, you know, 369 00:19:16.880 --> 00:19:19.160 he runs a sun Santum for the low charities and 370 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:21.960 a lot of charitable events. So he's you know, he's 371 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:25.799 a well rounded, well respected guy. But he's had issues 372 00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:29.319 with underage patrons coming into his bar. So he was busted. 373 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:32.559 The bar was busted. So the License Commission is the 374 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:38.319 little sleeping municipal body that regulates liquor licenses in the city. 375 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:40.720 So when the police go out and do you know, 376 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:43.519 a sting operation, Let's say they go into a bar 377 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:46.039 and if they see somebody that they think or you know, 378 00:19:46.519 --> 00:19:49.200 what's typically going to be what's considered a bar, even 379 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:52.599 though Loull doesn't have bars, they have pub restaurants. 380 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:57.880 Yeah, little Samantha goal here, but at least we understand it, okay. 381 00:19:58.119 --> 00:20:01.400 Well, or is there one of the police captains. The technicality, 382 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:02.960 you know, and he said, we're not going to change 383 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:05.359 our enforcement. So they go into the bar and if 384 00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:07.839 they see people who they think are under age, they 385 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:10.599 ask them prid, well, you know, these people aren't in 386 00:20:10.680 --> 00:20:14.640 that bar by accident. The IDs they have they pass. 387 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:20.200 There's a thriving market and fake IDs that have the stippling, 388 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:23.400 they have, the holograms they have, you know, they're pretty 389 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:25.599 good and I guess they cost around three hundred dollars 390 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:28.200 and these kids can order them from China and they 391 00:20:28.200 --> 00:20:31.480 get into these bars. And so the bar uses sort 392 00:20:31.519 --> 00:20:34.640 of a you know, a screening system, but it's not 393 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:37.839 sophisticated like the police scanner system that they use, which 394 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:40.960 connects to the state police database. So the cops can say, 395 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:44.279 show me your ID and they scan it and it's fraudulents. 396 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:46.279 So they go into the Blue Shamrock at like one 397 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:48.559 o'clock in the morning on March first, which is you know, 398 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:51.680 Friday night into Saturday morning, and they I buy two 399 00:20:51.720 --> 00:20:53.920 women sitting at the bar and they think they're under age. 400 00:20:53.960 --> 00:20:57.599 They card them their IDs are is the police report said, 401 00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:02.160