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<v Speaker 1>Man, terrible things about to happen for the Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>We are on a head coaching watch, waiting for the

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for the Cowboys to make an announcement.

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<v Speaker 2>It could come down today, tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like it's gonna be Brian Schottenheimer, which is

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<v Speaker 1>exceptionally underwhelming. There is a last second mystery candidate thrown

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<v Speaker 1>in the mix. Kati has given us both of these names,

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Bassacia, the Green Bay Special Teams coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the two. It's gonna be one of those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So congratulations, they're gonna get a guy for maybe the price,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for a third of the price of what

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<v Speaker 1>an NFL cost coach should cost. I mean assuming that

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<v Speaker 1>if it's one of those guys, that Jason Witten's along

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<v Speaker 1>with it, and then we would kind of like hang

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<v Speaker 1>our hat on a mystery hook.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll put it to you like this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if so the last forty eight hours has

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<v Speaker 1>felt like Brian Schottenheimer, If out of nowhere they're suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>saying Rich Bisaccia, then I don't I guess my thought

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<v Speaker 1>would be, well, that does mean it's closed like I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was closed if they hired Schottenheimer's like, wow, terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>But why would they suddenly talk to Bisachia.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes me think that the door is still open.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're right, but that if the door's still

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<v Speaker 1>open and they're just gonna let another crap coach walk

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<v Speaker 1>through it, that's probably a problem. But KT brought up

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<v Speaker 1>this name Rich Bisachia last week, so he has floated

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<v Speaker 1>this out here.

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<v Speaker 2>And do we have KT is he? Do we have

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<v Speaker 2>access to Kese quite yet? But he's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>here in any second.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Kat is off today, But why do we

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<v Speaker 1>think Kat will be here any second? We have demanded

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<v Speaker 1>that he try to get on the show today even

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<v Speaker 1>though he's on vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>And he in Vegas right now. He's like, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought he went. I thought he is? He gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>sitting at a slot machine if we had him, we

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<v Speaker 2>could be hearing that in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, I will say this. We're supposed to have our

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<v Speaker 1>buddy Jeff Kavanaugh on later in the show. We're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to have our buddy Steve shackle For doing the weekday

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<v Speaker 1>update here in about thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>So we do have a lot of special guests.

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<v Speaker 1>But Ben if if there's news coming down today about

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<v Speaker 1>a Boys coach that I have a feeling Kavanaugh will

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<v Speaker 1>bail on us at four fifteen because he'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>do all that Kavanaugh stuff right, which we got to

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<v Speaker 1>be ready for anything. I just these are all bad

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<v Speaker 1>things I was. I was so wrong during the season.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Belichick was the guy I thought he was.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, somebody, somebody had told me it'd come to

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas and met with Jerry. Maybe they were just meeting

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<v Speaker 1>so Jerry could tell him what bad decisions he was

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<v Speaker 1>about to make. But the Cowboys don't value the head

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<v Speaker 1>coaching position.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't. They don't. That's why they have had the

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<v Speaker 2>guys that they've had.

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<v Speaker 1>They rarely go out there have ever outside of I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, outside of Parcels. Rarely do they go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and say we're gonna go get the best guy

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<v Speaker 1>for the job. Obviously, Jimmy was the best guy for

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<v Speaker 1>the job. But I still think Jerry is stuck in

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<v Speaker 1>that time warp and he just he said at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred different coaches could have coached this team.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry does not value the head coaching position. So we

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<v Speaker 1>should all just be prepared to be wildly disappointed. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna to be a name that no other team is

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<v Speaker 1>interested in. It's gonna be a contract that is way

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<v Speaker 1>cheaper than what the average coach is getting in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be underwhelming in every single way. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>have been disappointed if it was Kellen? No, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been okay with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Kellen is the head coaching type. But what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell do I know. I'm not in a room

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<v Speaker 1>with Kellen Moore. He's not the big, you know, personality

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<v Speaker 1>that you know can command the room. But sometimes just

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<v Speaker 1>being a genius can earn that, you know, like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, he's such a genius, let's follow him.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. But it's not gonna be h I gonna bang

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<v Speaker 2>my head through that locker you prove a message.

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<v Speaker 1>Not gonna be Vrabel or Campbell. Yeah, that's what those

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<v Speaker 1>guys are. You know a guy who I've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>bang his head against anything as Kevin Turner. He joins

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<v Speaker 1>us now via the miracle of zoom kt or you

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<v Speaker 1>had a slot machine.

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<v Speaker 2>Not yet.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't flown out yet. I've got an uber picking

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<v Speaker 3>me up soon though. Who's uber uh Ron. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so so k t A.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you expecting to hear the Cowboys announce that Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Shotthammer's their new head coach today?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think I have some pretty unique perspective on

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<v Speaker 3>this as a guy who's about to go to Las

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<v Speaker 3>Vegas knowing that you can bet on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Odds of the next head coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, side in my head, I was like, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 3>if Schottenheimer jumped ahead in the odds, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 3>to make any money betting on that. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I could put a little money on Kellen, but really,

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<v Speaker 3>if you look at the odds, not great there, You're

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna make a lot of money on that either.

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<v Speaker 3>So I started just kind of in my head going, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I could put like, you know, fifteen hundred to one

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<v Speaker 3>on you know, Robert Sawah, you know that's not terrible,

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<v Speaker 3>right you, or something like that. But if you really

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<v Speaker 3>go down the betting the betting board a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>you could find someone like Pete Carroll. I mean that

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<v Speaker 3>someone might be uh spending a little bit of money

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<v Speaker 3>on So you haven't left make it to Vegas on time?

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<v Speaker 2>No, if I would you swing by.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you get Ron to swing by here, and if

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<v Speaker 1>I give you one hundred dollars, will you put it

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<v Speaker 1>on Pete Carroll for me?

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just well, it's just venmo. I don't think we

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<v Speaker 3>need Ron to get totally involved in this. I want,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't know what's going to happen. I

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<v Speaker 3>really don't, but I will say that that's a name

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<v Speaker 3>who I think the Vegas odds will shift by the

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<v Speaker 3>time I make it to Vegas tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think that way for? Who? Pete oh So,

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<v Speaker 2>Peter oh So?

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<v Speaker 1>You're here in some buzz and rumblings in that direction.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And the problem is nothing official has been reported yet.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's where we get to problems with that. But

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<v Speaker 3>the wait, are you making it up? Are you saying

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm saying from a betting perspective, if you go

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<v Speaker 3>down the odds for Cowboys next head coach, and you

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<v Speaker 3>really wanted to make a little bit of money, you

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<v Speaker 3>should maybe put a little bit of money on Pete Carroll.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is genius by them. We mentioned this.

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<v Speaker 1>If they had just come out and said it was

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Carroll, all of us had been like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>he's eighty five, what are you doing? But now that

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<v Speaker 1>we're convinced we're about to get Brian Schottenheimer or Rich Basatia,

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<v Speaker 1>We're like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, great, Pete Carroll, he still got it. We got

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<v Speaker 2>Pete Carroll. No, you kidding me.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, there was talk of, you know, Pete Carroll last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Pete Carroll sin his resume to Jerry last

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<v Speaker 1>year because he thought McCarthy was going to be fired,

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<v Speaker 1>because remember we saw how the story always ended, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, no, sign me up for seven and ten.

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<v Speaker 3>So Pete Carroll, here's what's interesting, and this is why

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going here, Okay, because Pete Carroll wants to get

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<v Speaker 3>back in the game at the spry age of ninety

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<v Speaker 3>four or however old he is. And he used to

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<v Speaker 3>work with Brian Schottenheimer. Do you remember the old let

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<v Speaker 3>Russ Cook thing that was happening in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>That whole thing was because Brian Schottenheimer and Pete Carroll

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<v Speaker 3>were fighting over how they should implement Russell Wilson and

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<v Speaker 3>it was run the ball Aton and Brian Schottenheimer was

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<v Speaker 3>trying to fight off Pete Carroll.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole time.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you put two and two together, why would

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<v Speaker 3>the Cowboys interview Brian SCHOTTENNEI wher They've had him on

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<v Speaker 3>the staff for two years. What would they interview him

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<v Speaker 3>for a long time yesterday and then interview him again?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, I interview him for a long time on

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesday and then interview him again on Wednesday for a

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<v Speaker 3>long amount of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you saying the entire time they were just asking

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<v Speaker 1>him Pete Carroll questions.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking in my head, what if they're like, can

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<v Speaker 3>you and Pete.

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<v Speaker 2>Get along and all along?

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<v Speaker 3>We're interviewing you to be the offensive coordinator and you

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<v Speaker 3>get call plays and all that stuff. Now, that would

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<v Speaker 3>tell you that the Cowboys like Shoddy over Kellen. And

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<v Speaker 3>we don't know that Kellen's out of it, but Shoddy

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<v Speaker 3>as a guy who's going to Vegas tonight, I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>looking a little bit down the Vegas odds board towards

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<v Speaker 3>Pete Carroll.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, look for me, he's saying that emphatically. He said

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<v Speaker 2>it five times. I'm going to be doing. Everyone else

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<v Speaker 2>can do what they want if they want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Rich Pisancia have ad it. So, but you're you're at home,

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<v Speaker 2>right now, yeah, I'll leave in an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you realize by the time you get there, the

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<v Speaker 1>story that you're talking about will probably have broken in

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<v Speaker 1>the odds wile shift. That's the real bummer here. Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you place it illegally right now?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? Siroy? Yeah? Okay, yeah, yeah, oh no a step.

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<v Speaker 1>All I know is this kat is on vacation and

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<v Speaker 1>in studio we have this giant TV and his faces

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<v Speaker 1>on it because it's you know, he's on a zoom

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<v Speaker 1>call with us and he's not here at work with us,

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<v Speaker 1>and he looks so happy, so refreshed. It looks like

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<v Speaker 1>he's had a facial looks like someone's tickling him. He's

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<v Speaker 1>never been happier that he's not here with us. He

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<v Speaker 1>gave a facial or received Yeah, yeah, well okay I

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<v Speaker 1>paid for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're saying you, with your money, you would look

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<v Speaker 1>for a guy like Pete Carroll to focus on where

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<v Speaker 1>you and your money. Probably wouldn't put your money on

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Schottenheimer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, because because Schottenheimer's at the top of the odds.

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<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't make me any money.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it doesn't make you any money. Is when

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<v Speaker 1>you put money on the wrong candidate, right, that will

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<v Speaker 1>be making money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's a tweet Nick Harris from the Fourth Star

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<v Speaker 3>Telegram put out and it's about one pm. I've never

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<v Speaker 3>met Nick Harris, by the way, by the way inside operative,

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<v Speaker 3>he says, a source just told me regarding Cowboys head coach,

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<v Speaker 3>far from the end I fear the of note this

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<v Speaker 3>source is the only one I have left that has

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<v Speaker 3>remained consistent in Shottenheimer remaining oc The noise has not

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so hold I just wait. That's what I was

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<v Speaker 1>telling Ben. But I was telling Ben that based on

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Basacia. I was like, if if who reported Rich Pisaccia,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And so what I'm saying Clarence put that out

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<v Speaker 1>And so what I'm saying is if suddenly new candidates

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean we're about to get any resolution. They

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<v Speaker 1>may be interviewing guys for another week. Well, and they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't just hire Pete without interviewing him and so. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, God, you keep forcing Pete Carroll on us.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, there's going to be more candidates

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you also have the Shrine Bowl that we've given

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<v Speaker 3>away tickets to happening a week from today up there

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<v Speaker 1>But oh god, I got the idea. I got an idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought about this. Oh, this would be amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>No one's ever done this. This would be amazing. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I love this. He was in town last night. He

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting at mid court. You guys know who I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. You know who's sitting mid court of the

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<v Speaker 1>math game last night, Westler. He sits at mid court

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<v Speaker 1>of every game. Ben Yes, on the opposite side of him,

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<v Speaker 1>in the seats that Shador was sitting in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Travis Hunter. Okay, okay, what if what if.

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<v Speaker 1>The Cowboys hired Travis Hunter to be their head coach

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<v Speaker 1>so you can't draft him? He's the head coach of

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<v Speaker 1>another team, and then he decides to be a player

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<v Speaker 1>coach and you get Travis Hunter without having to draft him.

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<v Speaker 1>You can pay him fifteen million dollars a year, more

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<v Speaker 1>than the number one pick would get, and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a coach salary. You want the guy who thought

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Campbell was the solution to have that sort of

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<v Speaker 2>But why wouldn't anybody do that? Like, hey, guys, rules

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<v Speaker 2>against that? Hey guys, what what rules?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, you can't draft me because I'm the head

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<v Speaker 1>coach of a football team. You know, it's the same

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<v Speaker 1>reason Tom Brady can't go talk about so and so

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<v Speaker 1>on the broadcast because you know he's the owner of

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<v Speaker 2>Same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Once he's our property because we've hired him as head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't draft him.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude, Look what I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I like his football mind. Thank you, Jerry, Thank you player.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. I like this, Thank you. I assume there's

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<v Speaker 2>rules against that? Why that would be to me?

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<v Speaker 1>That would be anti Rooney rule if they didn't allow

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<v Speaker 1>you to hire a black coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Who you could pay more than he would make on

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<v Speaker 3>a rookie deal.

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<v Speaker 2>There coach, whatever you want to pay him.

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<v Speaker 1>There is all this talk about if if does Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>want to jump into the news cycle. Today, news stories

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<v Speaker 1>go to die on Friday Monday, everyone's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the NFL. So if he is going to

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<v Speaker 1>to tomorrow. The only thing is I think he knows.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna talk about this later today. Ben found

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<v Speaker 1>another news story from Matt Howardton. We'll talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>in the five o'clock hour and I and I'm afraid

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<v Speaker 1>that that would bury the Cowboys coaching just because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy story.

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<v Speaker 2>Do not miss it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about it at five o'clock today. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to listening to that. Guys, you'll be on

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<v Speaker 1>a plane. Hey, can you hang up on him?

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<v Speaker 2>Christina? Hey? Kt you have fun?

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<v Speaker 3>Good?

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<v Speaker 4>You want me?

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty bets on anybody? Pete Carroll les No, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>excited about any of it. It all sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>See what kind of see what kind of odds I

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<v Speaker 1>can get with Travis Hunter as head coach. I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>down the list there too. Cliff God, this story sucks, man,

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<v Speaker 1>This story sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also tea. No, KT is the best part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Look how happy he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that he got a facial Yeah, looks so refreshed.

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<v Speaker 2>One did you sleep with a mask on? I was

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<v Speaker 2>sipping the mask on? Look at that man. I always to.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you here, Kt, you put the sea pat mask

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<v Speaker 1>on the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything else you want to say to all of your fans.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I just think in these times, I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>really important that we all consider everything when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to the world we're living in and all these things

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<v Speaker 3>that we considered before.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, what before? Really? Why'd you call your wimmering machine earlier? Huh?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, love you, Kevin, I haven't saved you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Play the edge cutting out. You're still here.

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<v Speaker 4>No dark time boys.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now you're ready, ready, ready, ready, Time.

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<v Speaker 1>To do one.

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<v Speaker 5>Poor count quick quick Evan with our show. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>ruling ahead, except with Simer Sweet pursuing it. Donld out

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<v Speaker 5>Shaw shank through the sewer, Kid now with chilling at

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<v Speaker 5>the eagle. Yeah, we're doing it. Three o'clock on the Doc.

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<v Speaker 5>Got a habit for my house, a golf status. Howard

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<v Speaker 5>starting to get crattic shows that up multiplied like a rabbit.

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<v Speaker 2>Tuned in, Zone out, crank it up, beat the habit.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm on hang Out with the friends, rocking on the radio,

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<v Speaker 6>My on Moyskin's head, talking on the radio. It's time

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<v Speaker 6>to to this sponse. Oh baby, heaby KT fifteen up,

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<v Speaker 6>all up on the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you are listening to the world famous Ben and

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<v Speaker 1>Skin Show, and we're so glad that you are. We

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<v Speaker 1>going to join us at four ten talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys coaching rumors. It's everything is a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>feel like a decision is going to be made today.

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