Speaker 1: Man, terrible things about to happen for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: We are on a head coaching watch, waiting for the
Speaker 1: waiting for the Cowboys to make an announcement.
Speaker 2: It could come down today, tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It seems like it's gonna be Brian Schottenheimer, which is
Speaker 1: exceptionally underwhelming. There is a last second mystery candidate thrown
Speaker 1: in the mix. Kati has given us both of these names,
Speaker 1: Rich Bassacia, the Green Bay Special Teams coach.
Speaker 2: Those are the two. It's gonna be one of those guys.
Speaker 1: So congratulations, they're gonna get a guy for maybe the price,
Speaker 1: you know, for a third of the price of what
Speaker 1: an NFL cost coach should cost. I mean assuming that
Speaker 1: if it's one of those guys, that Jason Witten's along
Speaker 1: with it, and then we would kind of like hang
Speaker 1: our hat on a mystery hook.
Speaker 2: But I'll put it to you like this.
Speaker 1: I mean, if so the last forty eight hours has
Speaker 1: felt like Brian Schottenheimer, If out of nowhere they're suddenly
Speaker 1: saying Rich Bisaccia, then I don't I guess my thought
Speaker 1: would be, well, that does mean it's closed like I
Speaker 1: thought it was closed if they hired Schottenheimer's like, wow, terrible,
Speaker 1: But why would they suddenly talk to Bisachia.
Speaker 2: That makes me think that the door is still open.
Speaker 1: I hope you're right, but that if the door's still
Speaker 1: open and they're just gonna let another crap coach walk
Speaker 1: through it, that's probably a problem. But KT brought up
Speaker 1: this name Rich Bisachia last week, so he has floated
Speaker 1: this out here.
Speaker 2: And do we have KT is he? Do we have
Speaker 2: access to Kese quite yet? But he's going to be
Speaker 2: here in any second.
Speaker 1: All right, Kat is off today, But why do we
Speaker 1: think Kat will be here any second? We have demanded
Speaker 1: that he try to get on the show today even
Speaker 1: though he's on vacation.
Speaker 2: And he in Vegas right now. He's like, right, I
Speaker 2: thought he went. I thought he is? He gonna be
Speaker 2: sitting at a slot machine if we had him, we
Speaker 2: could be hearing that in the background.
Speaker 1: Sure, I will say this. We're supposed to have our
Speaker 1: buddy Jeff Kavanaugh on later in the show. We're supposed
Speaker 1: to have our buddy Steve shackle For doing the weekday
Speaker 1: update here in about thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: So we do have a lot of special guests.
Speaker 1: But Ben if if there's news coming down today about
Speaker 1: a Boys coach that I have a feeling Kavanaugh will
Speaker 1: bail on us at four fifteen because he'll have to
Speaker 1: do all that Kavanaugh stuff right, which we got to
Speaker 1: be ready for anything. I just these are all bad
Speaker 1: things I was. I was so wrong during the season.
Speaker 1: I thought Belichick was the guy I thought he was.
Speaker 1: You know, somebody, somebody had told me it'd come to
Speaker 1: Dallas and met with Jerry. Maybe they were just meeting
Speaker 1: so Jerry could tell him what bad decisions he was
Speaker 1: about to make. But the Cowboys don't value the head
Speaker 1: coaching position.
Speaker 2: They don't. They don't. That's why they have had the
Speaker 2: guys that they've had.
Speaker 1: They rarely go out there have ever outside of I
Speaker 1: don't know, outside of Parcels. Rarely do they go out
Speaker 1: there and say we're gonna go get the best guy
Speaker 1: for the job. Obviously, Jimmy was the best guy for
Speaker 1: the job. But I still think Jerry is stuck in
Speaker 1: that time warp and he just he said at the time,
Speaker 1: five hundred different coaches could have coached this team.
Speaker 2: They don't.
Speaker 1: Jerry does not value the head coaching position. So we
Speaker 1: should all just be prepared to be wildly disappointed. It's
Speaker 1: gonna to be a name that no other team is
Speaker 1: interested in. It's gonna be a contract that is way
Speaker 1: cheaper than what the average coach is getting in the NFL.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be underwhelming in every single way. Would you
Speaker 1: have been disappointed if it was Kellen? No, I think
Speaker 1: I would have been okay with that.
Speaker 2: I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I think Kellen is the head coaching type. But what
Speaker 1: the hell do I know. I'm not in a room
Speaker 1: with Kellen Moore. He's not the big, you know, personality
Speaker 1: that you know can command the room. But sometimes just
Speaker 1: being a genius can earn that, you know, like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, he's such a genius, let's follow him.
Speaker 2: Right. But it's not gonna be h I gonna bang
Speaker 2: my head through that locker you prove a message.
Speaker 1: Not gonna be Vrabel or Campbell. Yeah, that's what those
Speaker 1: guys are. You know a guy who I've never seen
Speaker 1: bang his head against anything as Kevin Turner. He joins
Speaker 1: us now via the miracle of zoom kt or you
Speaker 1: had a slot machine.
Speaker 2: Not yet.
Speaker 3: I haven't flown out yet. I've got an uber picking
Speaker 3: me up soon though. Who's uber uh Ron. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: so so k t A.
Speaker 1: Are you expecting to hear the Cowboys announce that Brian
Speaker 1: Shotthammer's their new head coach today?
Speaker 3: Well, I think I have some pretty unique perspective on
Speaker 3: this as a guy who's about to go to Las
Speaker 3: Vegas knowing that you can bet on the.
Speaker 2: Odds of the next head coach.
Speaker 3: Okay, side in my head, I was like, okay, well,
Speaker 3: if Schottenheimer jumped ahead in the odds, I'm not going
Speaker 3: to make any money betting on that. So I was like,
Speaker 3: maybe I could put a little money on Kellen, but really,
Speaker 3: if you look at the odds, not great there, You're
Speaker 3: not gonna make a lot of money on that either.
Speaker 3: So I started just kind of in my head going, okay,
Speaker 3: I could put like, you know, fifteen hundred to one
Speaker 3: on you know, Robert Sawah, you know that's not terrible,
Speaker 3: right you, or something like that. But if you really
Speaker 3: go down the betting the betting board a little bit,
Speaker 3: you could find someone like Pete Carroll. I mean that
Speaker 3: someone might be uh spending a little bit of money
Speaker 3: on So you haven't left make it to Vegas on time?
Speaker 2: No, if I would you swing by.
Speaker 1: Would you get Ron to swing by here, and if
Speaker 1: I give you one hundred dollars, will you put it
Speaker 1: on Pete Carroll for me?
Speaker 3: I'll just well, it's just venmo. I don't think we
Speaker 3: need Ron to get totally involved in this. I want,
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know what's going to happen. I
Speaker 3: really don't, but I will say that that's a name
Speaker 3: who I think the Vegas odds will shift by the
Speaker 3: time I make it to Vegas tonight.
Speaker 2: What do you think that way for? Who? Pete oh So,
Speaker 2: Peter oh So?
Speaker 1: You're here in some buzz and rumblings in that direction.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the problem is nothing official has been reported yet.
Speaker 3: And that's where we get to problems with that. But
Speaker 3: the wait, are you making it up? Are you saying
Speaker 3: that I'm saying from a betting perspective, if you go
Speaker 3: down the odds for Cowboys next head coach, and you
Speaker 3: really wanted to make a little bit of money, you
Speaker 3: should maybe put a little bit of money on Pete Carroll.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is genius by them. We mentioned this.
Speaker 1: If they had just come out and said it was
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, all of us had been like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's eighty five, what are you doing? But now that
Speaker 1: we're convinced we're about to get Brian Schottenheimer or Rich Basatia,
Speaker 1: We're like.
Speaker 2: Yes, great, Pete Carroll, he still got it. We got
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll. No, you kidding me.
Speaker 1: Honestly, there was talk of, you know, Pete Carroll last year.
Speaker 1: I thought Pete Carroll sin his resume to Jerry last
Speaker 1: year because he thought McCarthy was going to be fired,
Speaker 1: because remember we saw how the story always ended, and
Speaker 1: they were like, no, sign me up for seven and ten.
Speaker 3: So Pete Carroll, here's what's interesting, and this is why
Speaker 3: I'm going here, Okay, because Pete Carroll wants to get
Speaker 3: back in the game at the spry age of ninety
Speaker 3: four or however old he is. And he used to
Speaker 3: work with Brian Schottenheimer. Do you remember the old let
Speaker 3: Russ Cook thing that was happening in Seattle.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: That whole thing was because Brian Schottenheimer and Pete Carroll
Speaker 3: were fighting over how they should implement Russell Wilson and
Speaker 3: it was run the ball Aton and Brian Schottenheimer was
Speaker 3: trying to fight off Pete Carroll.
Speaker 2: The whole time.
Speaker 3: So if you put two and two together, why would
Speaker 3: the Cowboys interview Brian SCHOTTENNEI wher They've had him on
Speaker 3: the staff for two years. What would they interview him
Speaker 3: for a long time yesterday and then interview him again?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I interview him for a long time on
Speaker 3: Tuesday and then interview him again on Wednesday for a
Speaker 3: long amount of time.
Speaker 1: Are you saying the entire time they were just asking
Speaker 1: him Pete Carroll questions.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking in my head, what if they're like, can
Speaker 3: you and Pete.
Speaker 2: Get along and all along?
Speaker 3: We're interviewing you to be the offensive coordinator and you
Speaker 3: get call plays and all that stuff. Now, that would
Speaker 3: tell you that the Cowboys like Shoddy over Kellen. And
Speaker 3: we don't know that Kellen's out of it, but Shoddy
Speaker 3: as a guy who's going to Vegas tonight, I'll be
Speaker 3: looking a little bit down the Vegas odds board towards
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll.
Speaker 2: Wow, look for me, he's saying that emphatically. He said
Speaker 2: it five times. I'm going to be doing. Everyone else
Speaker 2: can do what they want if they want to do.
Speaker 2: Rich Pisancia have ad it. So, but you're you're at home,
Speaker 2: right now, yeah, I'll leave in an hour.
Speaker 1: Do you realize by the time you get there, the
Speaker 1: story that you're talking about will probably have broken in
Speaker 1: the odds wile shift. That's the real bummer here. Why
Speaker 1: don't you place it illegally right now?
Speaker 2: You know? Siroy? Yeah? Okay, yeah, yeah, oh no a step.
Speaker 1: All I know is this kat is on vacation and
Speaker 1: in studio we have this giant TV and his faces
Speaker 1: on it because it's you know, he's on a zoom
Speaker 1: call with us and he's not here at work with us,
Speaker 1: and he looks so happy, so refreshed. It looks like
Speaker 1: he's had a facial looks like someone's tickling him. He's
Speaker 1: never been happier that he's not here with us. He
Speaker 1: gave a facial or received Yeah, yeah, well okay I
Speaker 1: paid for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, you're saying you, with your money, you would look
Speaker 1: for a guy like Pete Carroll to focus on where
Speaker 1: you and your money. Probably wouldn't put your money on
Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer.
Speaker 3: Yes, because because Schottenheimer's at the top of the odds.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't make me any money.
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't make you any money. Is when
Speaker 1: you put money on the wrong candidate, right, that will
Speaker 1: be making money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So here's a tweet Nick Harris from the Fourth Star
Speaker 3: Telegram put out and it's about one pm. I've never
Speaker 3: met Nick Harris, by the way, by the way inside operative,
Speaker 3: he says, a source just told me regarding Cowboys head coach,
Speaker 3: far from the end I fear the of note this
Speaker 3: source is the only one I have left that has
Speaker 3: remained consistent in Shottenheimer remaining oc The noise has not
Speaker 3: affected their thinking.
Speaker 1: Okay, so hold I just wait. That's what I was
Speaker 1: telling Ben. But I was telling Ben that based on
Speaker 1: Rich Basacia. I was like, if if who reported Rich Pisaccia,
Speaker 1: you said pro Football Talk or something ed Warder Football
Speaker 1: Posts was the first one I saw. Okay, So, but
Speaker 1: what I was saying was haven't we all for the
Speaker 1: last forty eight hours thought they were about to hire Schottenheimer.
Speaker 2: Yeah? And so what I'm saying Clarence put that out
Speaker 2: this morning. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so what I'm saying is if suddenly new candidates
Speaker 1: are emerging, in my mind, I'm sitting here thinking, well,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean we're about to get any resolution. They
Speaker 1: may be interviewing guys for another week. Well, and they
Speaker 1: wouldn't just hire Pete without interviewing him and so. And
Speaker 1: by the way, God, you keep forcing Pete Carroll on us.
Speaker 1: And by the way, there's going to be more candidates
Speaker 1: to interview Sunday night slash Monday morning, depending on how
Speaker 1: the games go.
Speaker 3: Well, you also have the Shrine Bowl that we've given
Speaker 3: away tickets to happening a week from today up there
Speaker 3: in Frisco. And you know you might want to have
Speaker 3: your staff in place by then.
Speaker 1: But oh god, I got the idea. I got an idea.
Speaker 1: I just thought about this. Oh, this would be amazing.
Speaker 1: No one's ever done this. This would be amazing. Dude,
Speaker 1: I love this. He was in town last night. He
Speaker 1: was sitting at mid court. You guys know who I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. You know who's sitting mid court of the
Speaker 1: math game last night, Westler. He sits at mid court
Speaker 1: of every game. Ben Yes, on the opposite side of him,
Speaker 1: in the seats that Shador was sitting in.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Travis Hunter. Okay, okay, what if what if.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys hired Travis Hunter to be their head coach
Speaker 1: so you can't draft him? He's the head coach of
Speaker 1: another team, and then he decides to be a player
Speaker 1: coach and you get Travis Hunter without having to draft him.
Speaker 1: You can pay him fifteen million dollars a year, more
Speaker 1: than the number one pick would get, and it's a
Speaker 1: it's a coach salary. You want the guy who thought
Speaker 1: Dave Campbell was the solution to have that sort of
Speaker 1: outside the box thinking all of a sudden.
Speaker 2: But why wouldn't anybody do that? Like, hey, guys, rules
Speaker 2: against that? Hey guys, what what rules?
Speaker 1: Hey guys, you can't draft me because I'm the head
Speaker 1: coach of a football team. You know, it's the same
Speaker 1: reason Tom Brady can't go talk about so and so
Speaker 1: on the broadcast because you know he's the owner of
Speaker 1: the Raiders.
Speaker 2: Same thing.
Speaker 1: Once he's our property because we've hired him as head coach,
Speaker 1: you can't draft him.
Speaker 4: Dude, Look what I did.
Speaker 2: I like his football mind. Thank you, Jerry, Thank you player.
Speaker 2: That's interesting. I like this, Thank you. I assume there's
Speaker 2: rules against that? Why that would be to me?
Speaker 1: That would be anti Rooney rule if they didn't allow
Speaker 1: you to hire a black coach.
Speaker 3: Who you could pay more than he would make on
Speaker 3: a rookie deal.
Speaker 2: There coach, whatever you want to pay him.
Speaker 1: There is all this talk about if if does Jerry
Speaker 1: want to jump into the news cycle. Today, news stories
Speaker 1: go to die on Friday Monday, everyone's going to be
Speaker 1: talking about the NFL. So if he is going to
Speaker 1: make a decision, it will probably be today as opposed
Speaker 1: to tomorrow. The only thing is I think he knows.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk about this later today. Ben found
Speaker 1: another news story from Matt Howardton. We'll talk about it
Speaker 1: in the five o'clock hour and I and I'm afraid
Speaker 1: that that would bury the Cowboys coaching just because it's
Speaker 1: a crazy story.
Speaker 2: Do not miss it.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it at five o'clock today. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: look forward to listening to that. Guys, you'll be on
Speaker 1: a plane. Hey, can you hang up on him?
Speaker 2: Christina? Hey? Kt you have fun?
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 4: You want me?
Speaker 2: Pretty bets on anybody? Pete Carroll les No, I'm not
Speaker 2: excited about any of it. It all sucks.
Speaker 1: See what kind of see what kind of odds I
Speaker 1: can get with Travis Hunter as head coach. I'll go
Speaker 1: down the list there too. Cliff God, this story sucks, man,
Speaker 1: This story sucks.
Speaker 2: It's also tea. No, KT is the best part of it.
Speaker 2: Look how happy he is.
Speaker 1: Look at that he got a facial Yeah, looks so refreshed.
Speaker 2: One did you sleep with a mask on? I was
Speaker 2: sipping the mask on? Look at that man. I always to.
Speaker 1: Thank you here, Kt, you put the sea pat mask
Speaker 1: on the morning.
Speaker 2: Anything else you want to say to all of your fans.
Speaker 3: Well, I just think in these times, I think it's
Speaker 3: really important that we all consider everything when it comes
Speaker 3: to the world we're living in and all these things
Speaker 3: that we considered before.
Speaker 2: Hey, what before? Really? Why'd you call your wimmering machine earlier? Huh?
Speaker 2: All right, love you, Kevin, I haven't saved you guys.
Speaker 2: Play the edge cutting out. You're still here.
Speaker 4: No dark time boys.
Speaker 2: Right now you're ready, ready, ready, ready, Time.
Speaker 1: To do one.
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Speaker 5: Got a habit for my house, a golf status. Howard
Speaker 5: starting to get crattic shows that up multiplied like a rabbit.
Speaker 2: Tuned in, Zone out, crank it up, beat the habit.
Speaker 6: I'm on hang Out with the friends, rocking on the radio,
Speaker 6: My on Moyskin's head, talking on the radio. It's time
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