Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Gimmick,
Speaker 1: your bi weekly wrestling show here on GI First Podcast.
Speaker 1: I am the Canadian Nightmare trest now and I'm joined
Speaker 1: by the man who's watched eight hours of wrestling, David.
Speaker 1: How's it going today, sir?
Speaker 2: I'm tired man.
Speaker 3: Yesterday with a lot of wrestling, and I did not
Speaker 3: realize how long I had been in this exact chair
Speaker 3: until it was over with.
Speaker 2: And that chair too.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's not even counting the rest of the week.
Speaker 3: It was all spent in this chair, which now has
Speaker 3: reminded me I need a new chair.
Speaker 1: There you go, So everybody give David some recommendations on
Speaker 1: chairs he wants. And then the one who don't sleep
Speaker 1: as Bob. So what is that reference?
Speaker 4: It was a quote that Stephanie Care said after she
Speaker 4: won the championship. She said, you know, some people call
Speaker 4: us dreamers, but we're the ones who don't sleep.
Speaker 1: I see. Yeah, all a good day for you. But
Speaker 1: both you had Ian there who like it was your
Speaker 1: like main roster stand for bid. And then Stephanie so
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it. We got a whole clear
Speaker 1: oh right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got a nice
Speaker 1: clean win Sey. We're gonn talk about We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about w Russell Palooza, We're gonna talk about aw all
Speaker 1: out and then anything else that usually comes up in
Speaker 1: the gimmick and stuff. And no, we can make many
Speaker 1: I guess predictions for the w W Perth show coming up,
Speaker 1: but we'll probably yeah, we probably No, it's Darby Maxley
Speaker 1: in a chain saw, a gee match or whatever they're
Speaker 1: gonna do. You know, as much as it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: good for their body, I'd be down if they announced
Speaker 1: because they ain't. No, have done this really in a while, like.
Speaker 5: A real exploding barbed wire death.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no no, no, let's not go there,
Speaker 1: and that didn't go. No. I want like give them
Speaker 1: a best of five. But each match is a different stipulation,
Speaker 1: that's like different hardcore whatever.
Speaker 3: And so when Jericho did that, right, who was it
Speaker 3: chasing the title? They had to go against different people
Speaker 3: because that's when we got well, yeah, that.
Speaker 1: Was oh god, who did for Oh? It was to
Speaker 1: get down GF because that's mgff's gimmick, remember, and he
Speaker 1: did that body where you gotta do the belts. But no,
Speaker 1: I'm saying like a best of five like Booker t
Speaker 1: ben Wah series where but each match is like inferno.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're going to do something inferno with
Speaker 1: the fire last night I was thinking.
Speaker 4: They should do like I don't know, but like to
Speaker 4: continue on with like sort of similar to the Coffin match,
Speaker 4: Like do like an actual like buried Alive match, like
Speaker 4: with the whole dirt mountain, like on the side of
Speaker 4: the stage and stuff.
Speaker 2: The old school with three stages.
Speaker 4: You it'd be like a Mount Everest match we talked
Speaker 4: about week remember last time.
Speaker 5: A mountain with Like it'd be like Buried Alive, but
Speaker 5: like with.
Speaker 1: Rocks, spend the money, get a helicopter, fly the top
Speaker 1: Mount Everest and film like a cinematic match. Could you
Speaker 1: imagine that that would be something he'd get Imax cameras
Speaker 1: and like it's a cinematic match. Darby versus John Moxley.
Speaker 1: You gotta throw the other person off the cliff and
Speaker 1: then imagine that image where you pretend to throw them
Speaker 1: and that's such a great write off. And then when
Speaker 1: Moxley comes back, like I survived falling off my amount
Speaker 1: evers you didn't kill me, you know, like I that's
Speaker 1: what I like. But yeah, because they did that underd
Speaker 1: with Andrade and Carmelo, but that was like a fake
Speaker 1: best of five, like they just randomly started, like look
Speaker 1: at the series like we haven't got I think the
Speaker 1: last time I could be wrong, but in mainstream, not
Speaker 1: in New Japan and mainstream, I feel like it's when
Speaker 1: Seamus and Cizarro did the They did a legit best
Speaker 1: of five and then they became the Bar. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. The last time we had a best of
Speaker 1: five on TV, to be honest.
Speaker 3: Seamus and Cizarro was a best of seven. They did
Speaker 3: bad and then yet for all that those they ended
Speaker 3: up then tagging together and then they became It was
Speaker 3: one of those like you can't beat me, we'll find
Speaker 3: and then they got put together and then that turned
Speaker 3: into the Bar.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: What I would want them to do with Darby Allen
Speaker 3: and John Boxley is go back, get the w CW
Speaker 3: the three tier cage, have each tier something different, and
Speaker 3: then the end of it is Darby Allen rig the
Speaker 3: whole thing that Darby Allen gets put through the top
Speaker 3: all of mankind, but falls all the way through and
Speaker 3: then somehow somehow they have it to where he even
Speaker 3: falls through the ring at the bottom and we just
Speaker 3: don't see Darby ally for six months, like he fell
Speaker 3: into the void somewhere.
Speaker 5: That's what happens to a DDP and ready to.
Speaker 2: Know. I want him to even go through the ring
Speaker 2: like it just.
Speaker 3: Like mankinds just gone, just gone.
Speaker 1: What was the match did w CW Where to win
Speaker 1: the match you had to put someone in the electric
Speaker 1: chair and turn it on. I can't remember.
Speaker 2: It's like it's the one with Abdullah the Butcher.
Speaker 1: Yes, And that's what I want them to do, is
Speaker 1: you gotta throw them through all the cages, get him
Speaker 1: out of the ring and then someone in the chair
Speaker 1: and from frying.
Speaker 3: Is a Chamber of horse match. Chamber of horse Match
Speaker 3: from Halloween Havoc ninety one, and it was supposed to
Speaker 3: be Macho Man who refused to do the spot, so
Speaker 3: it ended up being at dull of the Butcher getting electrocuted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was correct to not do that, you know.
Speaker 1: Later on was like that was a mistake, but uh yeah,
Speaker 1: there we go. That's our pitch. But we'll get there eventually.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so Wie Wressell Paloo's s Bubs, do you
Speaker 1: have any of the draft points right now? You still
Speaker 1: come from those? Okay, so by the end of the show,
Speaker 1: we'll get you an update. But David, overall, what do
Speaker 1: you think about rescllaluz? Also, this was the start of ESPN.
Speaker 1: I feel like every third tweet on my timeline was
Speaker 1: how does this work? I don't understand, Like I feel
Speaker 1: like it's I don't know. I was to get the
Speaker 1: VPN or because I got Netflix over here. But how
Speaker 1: did you feel about the show?
Speaker 2: Overall?
Speaker 1: Obviously big show for ESPN. They got Lesner's back age,
Speaker 1: Lee's first match, he had Cody and.
Speaker 3: So I am a huge college football fan and my
Speaker 3: morning is normally spent watching College Game Day, who surprisingly
Speaker 3: had an entire section of their picks for reciplues. I
Speaker 3: think that this does bring it to the mainstream. Like
Speaker 3: that opening video that they did was amazing. The where
Speaker 3: we met now Triple Ah just saying welcome to our
Speaker 3: final form, and all I can think of is Freezer
Speaker 3: turning golden at that moment, Like those aspects of it
Speaker 3: were pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Where again, what does that mean? I've always said, what
Speaker 1: does that mean? A couple of years from now, ESPN
Speaker 1: doesn't like bring them back, so it's like, are they yeah,
Speaker 1: what form is this, you know?
Speaker 3: Or some new streaming service wants to pop them over
Speaker 3: there or whatnot. Yet it could all change, but I
Speaker 3: felt like it that part was cool. Some of the
Speaker 3: presentations were pretty cool. But as a show as a whole,
Speaker 3: other than the nostalgia of certain matches, I feel like
Speaker 3: it very much fell short for this being the big
Speaker 3: introduction into mainstream.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could agree with that. I think that what
Speaker 1: was surprised to me, so like I enjoyed the show overall.
Speaker 1: I think there's two kinda I got a head scratcher,
Speaker 1: and then there's two kind of matches. One just Doc
Speaker 1: Gray and then one could have just been a little
Speaker 1: bit above a TV made event. But that's fine. I
Speaker 1: just felt like they went harder overall, because I know
Speaker 1: people really just not everybody, but a lot of people
Speaker 1: really disliked the raw Netflix premiere because it was like
Speaker 1: very mainstream and all celebrities. But I felt like they
Speaker 1: went That's what I was expecting with this, I know
Speaker 1: it obviously the big meme was if Rock was gonna
Speaker 1: show it, but I was expecting more legends, more there's
Speaker 1: a couple of celebrities. But I was just kind of
Speaker 1: surprised it didn't feel it felt like another pay per view.
Speaker 1: It didn't feel like the first pay per view on ESPN.
Speaker 1: Even though overall I liked the show, I just was
Speaker 1: surprised they didn't go that hard. Now, I guess granted
Speaker 1: you'd say that, you know, Netflix is technically i'd say
Speaker 1: more important because they're on there weekly, and then with
Speaker 1: the foreign people like myself, it's all the pls are there, right,
Speaker 1: So technically I think if you were to ask them,
Speaker 1: the Netflix deals probably bigger and probably could reach more
Speaker 1: audiences because at the same time Netflix, there's tons of
Speaker 1: people that are subscribed for TV shows, reality shows, movies
Speaker 1: and we'll just see w right where ESPN there's tons of people.
Speaker 1: You got to go out of your Like I don't
Speaker 1: have to because I'm not there, but like if you're
Speaker 1: in America and you don't watch anything on there, you
Speaker 1: have to go out of your way to subscribe to it.
Speaker 1: So maybe that's why it's not. I just still thought
Speaker 1: there's gonna be something. Obviously they loaded the show with
Speaker 1: AJ and Brock, but I just thought there'd be one
Speaker 1: more thing of oh man, I should have tuned in
Speaker 1: like when Rock was there or whether it be a
Speaker 1: big turn or something like that. Like I thought there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a moment where hey you and that's where
Speaker 1: I think we all kind of thought with Cody and
Speaker 1: Drew going last something was gonna happen there, but nothing
Speaker 1: really came of it, So I'm I'm quite surprised by
Speaker 1: that aspect. But overall, I enjoyed the show. I thought
Speaker 1: it was a good one. I thought it was like
Speaker 1: a very solid beats you. I think it got like
Speaker 1: a a like the show over I'll be like a
Speaker 1: three point seventy five for me. I think there's a
Speaker 1: couple of matches that I really enjoyed for entertainment wise,
Speaker 1: and then the middle match, which we'll talk about, was fantastic.
Speaker 1: But I suppose what do you think but wrestle pouloues
Speaker 1: uh yeah, yeah, I gotta say I gotta rock my
Speaker 1: boy or so yeah.
Speaker 5: Overall, I thought i'd agree it was like I.
Speaker 4: Don't know, Yeah, they definitely like sort of hyped it
Speaker 4: up to be It's weird because they hyped it up
Speaker 4: to be bigger, But at the same time, I don't
Speaker 4: really think they hyped it up to be bigger.
Speaker 5: It's weird, like.
Speaker 4: In terms of I guess what they put on it,
Speaker 4: i'd say overall, yeah, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: I'd have to see.
Speaker 4: I don't think it'd be like super high compared to
Speaker 4: like a lot of other pls this year, but I
Speaker 4: still give it like a passing grade. I think probably, yeah,
Speaker 4: Like i'd have to see what else I gave, like
Speaker 4: a three point five if if else, I might be
Speaker 4: like a little lower than that, but probably around there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think at three point five is across the
Speaker 3: board a fair assessment for this three point five.
Speaker 2: Three point five is fair.
Speaker 4: I think on my list of just like ranking, I
Speaker 4: think I had this on about the same as like
Speaker 4: as like A King and Queen of the Ring, where
Speaker 4: there was like a few were definitely at least like
Speaker 4: one match I like really really enjoyed, and then a
Speaker 4: few that were like pretty fun and stuff, and then
Speaker 4: ones that I was just like, it's okay, I guess.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, I gotta do that next year. I won't
Speaker 1: start now, but like on Ladder Box with the movies,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start. Yeah, I didn't think about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have to do that next year, so that's fair enough.
Speaker 1: So all right, let's let's get this out of the way.
Speaker 1: Brock Lesnar defeated John Cena. Man, I agree with everybody.
Speaker 1: We have five days left with John Cena. I shared
Speaker 1: in the discord that clip of John c well, we'd
Speaker 1: really have to scroop that last page, scroop everything. Do
Speaker 1: I think it's screws up his career?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: But man, this is just like I knew this was
Speaker 1: gonna suck, but still just like it sucked even more.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch it live because aw, maybe it was
Speaker 1: still going on by watching after the fact, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's exactly what I feared. It's
Speaker 1: like the suplex City thing, which I said.
Speaker 2: This before, people do it like.
Speaker 1: And he said, like too, So okay, here we go.
Speaker 1: But clearly Brock when to get out there. It's like
Speaker 1: I said before, without all the personal stuff. I was
Speaker 1: over the Brock Lizener match years ago and like other
Speaker 1: than to me, like I guess. And even then it's
Speaker 1: like people might say, oh him versus Gun, through him
Speaker 1: versus Braun, like my worries is just gonna be this stuff, right,
Speaker 1: It's just like I don't know how exciting they're gonna be,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I thought Brock would get the win he
Speaker 1: did because Scena's on the way out, Brock swinging it
Speaker 1: just man, what what a waste? Like, especially if we
Speaker 1: don't get like a John Cena versus bron Breaker. I
Speaker 1: would much rather have bron Breaker squash and for eight minutes,
Speaker 1: like give it to someone like that, because Brock, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I very much worry. I was
Speaker 1: surprised on SmackDown and I'm at the reclution Hayman came out.
Speaker 1: I am very very worried that we could get I
Speaker 1: think Brock versus said the WRESTLEMANI is like a very
Speaker 1: legit possibility. I think they're gonna go with him and
Speaker 1: Gunther actually this time, but I could.
Speaker 5: See whether it be with Brock.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Like but again, if there's an injury something
Speaker 1: like that, Like I think, no matter what, in the
Speaker 1: next calendar year, you'll get Seth versus Brock, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna play up some of that drama there because I'm
Speaker 1: surprised they put Paul.
Speaker 4: They do that at the like the Royal Rumble.
Speaker 1: The Greatest, Like yeah, that's that's a good option.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like a you know, eight minutes eight minutes match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you could do and you could do something like.
Speaker 4: He enters the rumble and gets like eliminated by goother
Speaker 4: after the match or something like that.
Speaker 1: Or he wins it just like that.
Speaker 5: They did.
Speaker 1: They did that one year where he lost the title.
Speaker 4: Mar even for the rumble, even for the rubble of
Speaker 4: Brock gets up quickly because a few years ago he
Speaker 4: went in there for like three minutes and last like
Speaker 4: through him out.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so either way, I'm just saying like that, that's
Speaker 1: I think an option, but they will play up and
Speaker 1: I have no interest in that either right now. So yeah,
Speaker 1: this was this was not good. Like I I can't
Speaker 1: even give this a star rating like I.
Speaker 5: Would get like a like a half star.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 5: No, I think you can go as low as point
Speaker 5: to fun.
Speaker 1: And I give it back. Yeah, because it's a bar minute.
Speaker 1: It's literally just like refried food. Like we saw this
Speaker 1: years ago. It just feels so lazy and it just
Speaker 1: sucks for seeing it because it's just like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't think he cares he's getting the money.
Speaker 5: Five dates would be Crown Jewel UH Survivor Series, the
Speaker 5: final Raw.
Speaker 4: In Madison Square Garden, Raw in Boston, and then Saturday
Speaker 4: Nights to Me event.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So which again, I we've talked about a little tongue,
Speaker 1: but I just hate that it's it's.
Speaker 5: All wrestles at those raws.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope so highlight this.
Speaker 4: Last SmackDown with Sammy so I think maybe he like fights,
Speaker 4: and you know, I think didn't they do once like
Speaker 4: seth Versus scene at Madison Square.
Speaker 1: Garden before, I think they did.
Speaker 5: I think they did that once, so you could do that.
Speaker 2: So the only highlight relate to this match. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was very much.
Speaker 3: Cut and paste of their old SummerSlam the superlex City
Speaker 3: match with you know, slight differences, but outside that, the
Speaker 3: only real saving graces was what it means for Sina
Speaker 3: going forward. I think this was their attempt to anyone
Speaker 3: who was still kind of on the fence about him
Speaker 3: being back to babyface after the attempted He'll run.
Speaker 1: No, No, who was who was on the fence side.
Speaker 3: This the shot of the kids crying in the audience
Speaker 3: and even Tyrese Halliburton sitting there with the shock the
Speaker 3: wrestle made thirty shocked brock lesnar taker face like, you know,
Speaker 3: like all of these moments, that was the fine. Know,
Speaker 3: all right, this this is our our golden boy that
Speaker 3: we are sending off. We want to give him all
Speaker 3: the sympathy going into the end of his career, give
Speaker 3: him all the cheers. I knew when Sina came out
Speaker 3: and he was surrounded by those thirty kids, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: he's about.
Speaker 2: To get his ass.
Speaker 5: Well he always.
Speaker 3: I'm like, he's about he's about to just catch it
Speaker 3: and so and and that's what it was. I mean,
Speaker 3: I would probably give this like a C C minus
Speaker 3: at best for like a match like it. It didn't
Speaker 3: shake foundation. I get that you wanted to get eyes
Speaker 3: on the beginning of this, but also if that was
Speaker 3: your in case to counterprogram the end of a w
Speaker 3: maybe make this match go a little bit longer because
Speaker 3: I still had time, even though I was watching on
Speaker 3: dual monitors, I still had time to fully enjoy the
Speaker 3: rest of the main event of AW.
Speaker 2: Nah.
Speaker 1: Brocks like, I'm not going ten that's the no double digits,
Speaker 1: no double digits this run, you know. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. I imagine Brock will be gone
Speaker 1: for a while. That's yeah, good pitch that Seth at
Speaker 1: Saudie and then him there and then yeah with Sina,
Speaker 1: who knows. I guess I think he'll just be the
Speaker 1: surprise partner at war Games. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: one of these things where we'll have a team and
Speaker 1: may love a partner and someone's get taken out or
Speaker 1: someone's like I don't want to mess with the the
Speaker 1: Seth riders because like they're gonna like injure me. So
Speaker 1: I think he'll just they could eat Like. I think
Speaker 1: it could literally be multipleys where they announced seen it before,
Speaker 1: they announce him at some Survivor series they don't it's
Speaker 1: a mystery man. But I think they will announce before,
Speaker 1: uh so they can get him on the poster and
Speaker 1: then I guess, uh he's at Is he at the
Speaker 1: Perth Australia show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like he's been like super advertised for it.
Speaker 5: He's gonna be show of this show and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because now we got that answer now like it's
Speaker 1: at the I guess we'll just talk about the main
Speaker 1: event now because it's tying into this conversation because we
Speaker 1: for months have been booking like what they do and
Speaker 1: with seeing what they do with Cody and Seth, and
Speaker 1: I swear at one point maybe they didn't outright say it,
Speaker 1: but I thought least it was rumored that, oh, they're
Speaker 1: not doing the Crown Jeal Championship, and then last night
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, that's happening. So that through that's what
Speaker 1: I also hate it because the second I said that,
Speaker 1: I knew Cody was winning, because like, I just didn't
Speaker 1: think they were running Drew and Seth because they've done
Speaker 1: that a lot. And I just didn't see Tiffany and
Speaker 1: if it is Tiffany and Sephanie didn't see them getting
Speaker 1: the main, and I don't see Drew and Seth getting
Speaker 1: the main. So I wish they'd announced, like on the
Speaker 1: post show they did the staredown, so just right there,
Speaker 1: it would have been a little bit more divisive. But
Speaker 1: that match, don't get me wrong, I think that's gonna
Speaker 1: be really good with their characters where they are. I think,
Speaker 1: as we've all booked it, that Cody's gonna lose because
Speaker 1: he's gonna get destroyed by Drew and Brawn and Bronson
Speaker 1: and maybe Paul who knows, but who knows the whole
Speaker 1: thing it takes.
Speaker 4: But if Brock's not showed enough, if he's not getting paid.
Speaker 6: To wrestle, no SummerSlam though, right, yeah, but he's like
Speaker 6: that was like a bit like at least he's like
Speaker 6: be the main event.
Speaker 1: It's like I bet, I bet you could convince Brock
Speaker 1: to do for the right amount of money to walk
Speaker 1: in F five seth and leave. You know, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he could be.
Speaker 3: Still gets his million dollar pay day if all he
Speaker 3: does is have to do in F five.
Speaker 2: Oh, Brocks all over that.
Speaker 1: So now that because I think a lot of us
Speaker 1: it's still could happen, like you said, s Bubbs. But
Speaker 1: at least at Perth it's not him and Rollins what
Speaker 1: you talked about.
Speaker 2: I don't know what.
Speaker 1: They're gonna do for Sina at Perth, Like I really don't.
Speaker 1: I guess because he's not gonna be on any of
Speaker 1: the build it's gonna be like the Big Bill Eddie Kingston.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be that. It's gonna be something just like
Speaker 1: I want Sina. So I imagine because he'll be in the match.
Speaker 1: Later on with the interferencer, we said I am hoping
Speaker 1: it is Braun, but again that kind of sucks because
Speaker 1: we kind of just got that match that was.
Speaker 5: Like from Australia.
Speaker 1: Don't I like Bronze And I just if I can
Speaker 1: only book Seena's last five matches, Bronson Reed is not
Speaker 1: not on that list, you know, Like that's the thing.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna say it's breaker in my opinion,
Speaker 1: and that also gets seen into war games as well.
Speaker 1: That's that's my opinion, going to say it's break.
Speaker 4: You can have a like, oh you're gonna have like
Speaker 4: seen a run out in the health codey or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's where that's where I think what happened.
Speaker 1: He will and that's when Drew comes in, because that's
Speaker 1: my prediction on Discord of why Drew's injured. It is
Speaker 1: because on Smacked, and I bet they're gonna say Drew's
Speaker 1: like gown for an indiffinite amount of time and then
Speaker 1: oh my god, Drew's here and he hits the clay more.
Speaker 1: And I also think that's good drama because Seth and
Speaker 1: Drew had lots of history, right, so they do that
Speaker 1: stare down and maybe.
Speaker 4: Feel like it was like the original like scrapped plan
Speaker 4: for Cessfaction.
Speaker 5: Yeah, supposed to be him, Drew and Kevin Owens.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that would have been That would have
Speaker 1: been great. So yeah, yeah, but what do you who
Speaker 1: do you guys think for Sina for birth?
Speaker 4: I don't know now I tell yeah, I think either one,
Speaker 4: I think, but also I think the Bronze.
Speaker 5: I don't know if this would get on like the
Speaker 5: p l E.
Speaker 4: But they definitely said like they're coming for like the
Speaker 4: tag titles. Yeah, they've been like I think Hayman said,
Speaker 4: like they beat the USOS, so now like they beat
Speaker 4: the greatest tag team of all time, So now they're
Speaker 4: the greatest tag team of all time and they're coming
Speaker 4: for the the tag titles next. So I don't know
Speaker 4: if that would like make Crown Jewel to put that
Speaker 4: like on the show, or if they just like do
Speaker 4: that on Raw and then like they're just the tag chaffs.
Speaker 4: But I think for Sena, yeah, I think one of
Speaker 4: the bronze, either Breaker or Bronson.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: And as for someone else, like I don't know, may
Speaker 5: like I don't know, I feel like it's gonna be
Speaker 5: the like a dominant or something. I don't know, somebody
Speaker 5: can be like a hateable of heel. I wad.
Speaker 1: Don't do Russo it would be a good match. But
Speaker 1: you know what, Perth wouldn't be bad because the like
Speaker 1: I don't know, this doesn't exactly fit the dominant character.
Speaker 1: But you could if you wanted to build a legacy,
Speaker 1: they could play up the whole scene has never won
Speaker 1: the IC title thing very quickly. Yeah, and that's where
Speaker 1: you could play that up. And I don't think Scena
Speaker 1: should win it, but I actually would not.
Speaker 5: Be drop his last match.
Speaker 1: Pother back there. But like my idea would be my idea. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I go breaker up Perth war games dom because
Speaker 1: when's the masson square Garden one?
Speaker 5: I think the massive square is first.
Speaker 1: It's first, okay, So then I think you could do
Speaker 1: then I'd say Seth and Sina. You have Dominic in
Speaker 1: Scena and Boston. He wins the ICY title on his
Speaker 1: home crowd. Now I know Guth, there's the rumor repons
Speaker 1: I don't want Guth there, But you know what, I
Speaker 1: guess maybe that's.
Speaker 5: Like I'm above the Icy like.
Speaker 1: Samoa Joe did. I don't know, if I don't know
Speaker 1: if you ever heard of s Bubs. I think it
Speaker 1: was happening well that and then he did the uh
Speaker 1: the he was like the longest r O h TD
Speaker 1: champion and he just gave it up. He's like, I'm
Speaker 1: just done. He beat Hobbes and then after you beat Hobbs,
Speaker 1: he did a promo of like, yeah, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: not be a champion anymore.
Speaker 4: The leak I started watching, I feel like I remember
Speaker 4: seeing like, oh, somemo Joe just like relinquishes Tea and
Speaker 4: yeah I did.
Speaker 1: They did have him when the aw title right after,
Speaker 1: so I guess at least that happened. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: it made sense, but he looked like such a geek
Speaker 1: at first, like I'm just gonna like yeah, but David,
Speaker 1: who are you thinking for? For Sena Perth?
Speaker 3: So here's my thoughts with Sena and Perth. I think
Speaker 3: that Sina is not going to have a scheduled match.
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be him on the Grayson Waller effect.
Speaker 1: God damn.
Speaker 2: Hold, but wait, there's more, and I think I think.
Speaker 5: Ses return No.
Speaker 3: I think that is when the vision come out and
Speaker 3: they take out Grayson Waller and one of them challenges
Speaker 3: Sena to a right then right there.
Speaker 1: Match okay, as long as it ends that way. If
Speaker 1: it's just fucking on the waller effect.
Speaker 3: Nope, because I don't think you want to give away
Speaker 3: the matches yees. So I think he might be advertised
Speaker 3: for that, and then that's when you go into him
Speaker 3: having an actual match.
Speaker 2: I think he will. I definitely think he will.
Speaker 3: Take on one of the Bronze because I have a
Speaker 3: feeling he wants a good match against bron Breaker before
Speaker 3: he goes out. But also you're in Perth, so having
Speaker 3: Bronson Reed do something would also that would fit into that.
Speaker 3: So I think that he's gonna get challenged by someone.
Speaker 4: Like a face male Australian, like if he's like like
Speaker 4: a tag match or something like. Both the Brons are like, oh,
Speaker 4: we're gonna beat you up Sona and then someone comes
Speaker 4: out and it's like.
Speaker 1: Let's just give him Rea Ripley. Man, let's get the
Speaker 1: Johnson and Ria Ripley. Let's let's see Ria Ripley riptide
Speaker 1: Bronson Reid. Hell yeah that the room off the rope,
Speaker 1: off the rope super finisher, the roof would blow off
Speaker 1: that place.
Speaker 5: She got loot gallows a one time, so she could
Speaker 5: she do it?
Speaker 1: Give her enough? You know. It's like that's where it's like,
Speaker 1: I know lots of people feel if he got intered
Speaker 1: in wrestling and stuff like that. But just like man,
Speaker 1: when we talked about last night of We'll Get There,
Speaker 1: it was like, fuck, Becky.
Speaker 4: Would there very similar similar wrestlers and just the stuff
Speaker 4: they do.
Speaker 1: I was like, Becky and Seth could be better than Becky,
Speaker 1: and Punk might be better than a punkin Seth, you know,
Speaker 1: like god damn. So yeah, but anyway, so yeah, we
Speaker 1: had we talk about that. I guess we're about the Bronze.
Speaker 1: I thought the tag match was was fine, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know. Obviously it's tough because the ending got a
Speaker 1: little man because it looks like Jay got somewhat hurt.
Speaker 4: So I guess like the slow mo clip because when
Speaker 4: I was watching it, just like in normal speed, I
Speaker 4: couldn't figure out like when he hit himself, but the
Speaker 4: slow mo is like crazy, like yeah, he hits he
Speaker 4: hits bron in like the back and it bounces up
Speaker 4: like so quickly against his head that he's like instantly
Speaker 4: like busted open, like spot flilling everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so apparently he's like in concussion protocols.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the match itself was like it was fine. I
Speaker 4: guess it was just kind of like there it was
Speaker 4: just to show I guess the bronze being like dominant,
Speaker 4: but La Knight didn't really like screw either of them over,
Speaker 4: kind of just let them do.
Speaker 3: Like the share moments of him going like oh are
Speaker 3: you telling you that? On trying not to like like
Speaker 3: there wasn't like I don't know it just like Braun
Speaker 3: moves out the way and you get hit your luck
Speaker 3: you did that on purpose, like you were standing right here.
Speaker 3: You know exactly what happened, and this has happened in
Speaker 3: your matches before, like you know how this.
Speaker 1: Works at least wrestling trope when wrestler gets hit by
Speaker 1: the wrestler like did you did you hit me? It's
Speaker 1: like just watch the fucking replay, man, You're gonna be okay,
Speaker 1: Like I yes, yeah, I was.
Speaker 5: Like what it did, like was the end.
Speaker 4: The ending made me laugh where Jimmy is like in
Speaker 4: that table and as as they're counting three, the table
Speaker 4: just slowly almost perfect.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, it's pretty good there, so, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess for me the other thing is too because
Speaker 1: I've said this before. I know people talked about and
Speaker 1: I suppose you share the clip about this potential jus
Speaker 1: so he'll run terrible idea. You never know because maybe
Speaker 1: it's something great, But I just think that's terrible, and
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 5: It's I don't think they're actually good.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think they are, but it's not.
Speaker 4: Going to give them like like it's like it's like
Speaker 4: the Hogan thing before he actually went into Hollywood Hogan,
Speaker 4: where he was gonna be like like dark Hogan until
Speaker 4: you know, like you just were all black.
Speaker 5: This is like a year before Hollywood Hogan, but he's
Speaker 5: like evil Now you were.
Speaker 2: The black jeans and the black jean vest and yeah.
Speaker 5: But you just acted like the same.
Speaker 2: But I didn't color my beard brother.
Speaker 1: Yeah No, I think for me the problem and it's
Speaker 1: not the exact same as like the acclaimed in a
Speaker 1: W But I just I was not like, man, I
Speaker 1: need the usso's back together right now. And I know
Speaker 1: that's the play because Jay's the singles act like for
Speaker 1: everybody kind of goes up and down, but I'm not
Speaker 1: this And I guess even though when they came back,
Speaker 1: he didn't feel as big and I don't know, just
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're trying to achieve here, but cool.
Speaker 3: I think when you do these types of matches, you
Speaker 3: need a true reason for them coming together, like when
Speaker 3: it can't. When Cody and Dustin teamed up, they you know,
Speaker 3: he had the whole. Hey, I have this huge match
Speaker 3: coming up, and what I need is my brother, Like
Speaker 3: for something this monumental. If I'm making history, I want
Speaker 3: to do it with you or Egine Christian coming back
Speaker 3: together like it he's my asshole, Like you have those
Speaker 3: moments where there's a bigger reason for them coming back
Speaker 3: together other than well we're putting Jay in this thing
Speaker 3: with the Bronze and this other thing with l A.
Speaker 1: Knight, the team with l A. Knight he lost once
Speaker 1: He's like I need you back, man. It's like that's
Speaker 1: it just because yeah, like go get another partner. Ask
Speaker 1: Cody was up to, Like you want to take titles
Speaker 1: with Cody. I know they're busy, but I mean, like
Speaker 1: and k Fave, like there's no one else on the
Speaker 1: roster before you gotta get your brother back.
Speaker 3: But the them bringing back the old music, like to
Speaker 3: me that that's a Big four, Big five pay per
Speaker 3: V moment a wrestled palooza on a random Saturday night,
Speaker 3: Like you say this for a moment, maybe it is
Speaker 3: a championship match, Like Jimmy is working towards enthering and
Speaker 3: he's like, hey, the if this is my shot at
Speaker 3: being a champion again, I'm going for my brother. And
Speaker 3: then you bring Jay in for this. They do the
Speaker 3: old music everything else. This just seemed like nostalgia bait
Speaker 3: and the match was it was all over the place.
Speaker 3: It wasn't bad, It just wasn't anything that made me go.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm glad I got to see this match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a weird thing for me to say, but
Speaker 1: at this point I like more when it was like
Speaker 1: Jay on the road to Gunther and he just need
Speaker 1: a mystery partner and Ja came in for a match.
Speaker 1: They did that, then they use the gun the thing,
Speaker 1: and that to me was perfect where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's like a fun cameo of the usso's. But then
Speaker 1: they go back. But I think it it's another thing too,
Speaker 1: like they don't know what to do. Jimmy. You know,
Speaker 1: they're just like I like, I's it's tough. It's like
Speaker 1: he is teys argument the better, but yeah, it's better promo,
Speaker 1: better wrestler. It's the Matt and Jeff thing. Though Matt
Speaker 1: was always a better wrestler than Jeff, but like he
Speaker 1: didn't have the ore that Jeff did, right, And that's
Speaker 1: where the same thing as that and Christian as a babyface.
Speaker 1: I'd say it was the same as Edge. That's why
Speaker 1: Christian woman he was a heel, was fine, but both
Speaker 1: Matt and Jimmy as heels were nothing. Is That's where
Speaker 1: it's like, it is very much like The Hardy Boys,
Speaker 1: where j just has the Jeff hardy thing and you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't no matter what Jimmy can do, he can't
Speaker 1: get there when he's like a singles title. It's like,
Speaker 1: I have no interest in Jimmy, who's so holding a
Speaker 1: singles title right now? You know, Like.
Speaker 3: Reverend Devon at this point is Reverend Deacon Bautista too?
Speaker 1: Have you seen Jista before s pubs? Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: Batista's main roster. It's just a guy collecting donations for
Speaker 1: Reverend going around with the collection point.
Speaker 4: Remember, because I think one of these, like last two
Speaker 4: like w W games, like one of the deals was Deacons.
Speaker 1: Really that's awesome. Oh yeah, because he had like the
Speaker 1: I everything. But yeah, so we'll see. Hopefully Jay's okay,
Speaker 1: like and I don't know what they're doing with the story.
Speaker 1: I my prediction is if everyone's okay wrestling. Anytime the
Speaker 1: Ussles are winning the tag team title, that's my prediction.
Speaker 1: They're gonna do some longer build. Maybe there's some drama
Speaker 1: here and there, but either okay, I'll change it. Either
Speaker 1: they're winning or they're defending the title, and hopefully there's
Speaker 1: some good team. Hopefully they build up for Raxium or
Speaker 1: something I wouldn't be Yeah, in a last ever TLC match,
Speaker 1: you know, like it could happen. But then after that,
Speaker 1: to me, definitely, I think almost they're gonna agree the
Speaker 1: match tonight and maybe I have to decide, but between me,
Speaker 1: it's probably this and then the Hangar and Fletcher one
Speaker 1: I'd have to think about. But for multiple reasons. But
Speaker 1: Stephanie Picker beats you know, EO Sky I'm trying to
Speaker 1: say her old name, but yeah, I I know everyone
Speaker 1: talks about and it's not that's not true about EO
Speaker 1: and Rhea Ripley and their chemistry. But Stephanie and EO
Speaker 1: have I won't say that same chemistry, but their own
Speaker 1: chemistry of their own. I've said this before, we told
Speaker 1: about this discord remind me of Ordon Christian where I
Speaker 1: don't think Stephanie and I are gonna ever have a
Speaker 1: bad match, and and not either with Ria either, but
Speaker 1: just like I think with because Ossie with Rhea, she
Speaker 1: plays like the bigger, strong hoss in that match, and
Speaker 1: this is like they're not similar styles, but they have
Speaker 1: variations of it. But this was a great match. The
Speaker 1: last two matches have been great, but they always went
Speaker 1: to the DQ finish. I'm just very happy that they
Speaker 1: didn't because everyone was worried and everyone's speculating. I'm happy
Speaker 1: that there was no miss, no oscar interference, nothing, because
Speaker 1: to me, it's like if Stephanie's winning her first main
Speaker 1: title and it is due to like the miss, unless
Speaker 1: it's a heel turn, which is not the case because
Speaker 1: she's slowly building up and people are liking her. Do
Speaker 1: it this way and it does not hurt EO at all.
Speaker 1: EO's like been at Multi, she just won the last WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: She's a semi mon event with Bailey she's gonna have
Speaker 1: like a big program with Oscar and carry like she's
Speaker 1: always gonna be around. You could argue she is top
Speaker 1: five in the world, not just men and female like
Speaker 1: of the world. So like EO's gonna be fine taken
Speaker 1: in here. It helps Stephanie and I don't know why.
Speaker 1: It's for some reason it doesn't feel as as usual
Speaker 1: like people winning it this early. I think it just
Speaker 1: feels natural. But as I said before, I think even
Speaker 1: if Naomi was in the spot, Stephanie's winning. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you it's gonna be It's it's Stephanie and Ria. I'm
Speaker 1: booking it right now. I think Ria's winning that chamber
Speaker 1: rumble and they're they're doing it. For one, it'll be
Speaker 1: a fantastic match, but two just the social media everything
Speaker 1: that they'll have a big time promoting that. But I
Speaker 1: thought this was a great match and really deliver it.
Speaker 1: So what about US pubs?
Speaker 5: No, Yeah, I really really enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: Like I already loved the two other matches they had
Speaker 4: on Raw that like ended in the DQ, so for
Speaker 4: them to get this one with the full time was
Speaker 4: just great. And yeah, I think it actually was different
Speaker 4: than the other matches because I felt like the other
Speaker 4: ones were all like go, go go. This one did
Speaker 4: have some stuff with obviously her working over like the
Speaker 4: legs of Veo to the point where she had to
Speaker 4: like take off the knee pads. But then that also
Speaker 4: went into like when she missed the moon salt, then
Speaker 4: that like.
Speaker 5: Hurt her her knee even more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I thought I thought it was a really
Speaker 4: cool match that actually was different than the ones they
Speaker 4: had already had just they did different stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this this to me is match of the night.
Speaker 3: I would say, as much as I loved Hangar and
Speaker 3: Fletcher and they had some amazing spots, but just pure
Speaker 3: bell to bell, the fun of the match, the fluidity
Speaker 3: of the match and everything else, and these ladies put
Speaker 3: on an incredible match with some incredible spots and just
Speaker 3: it was a highlight for both of them, and it
Speaker 3: was a highlight for women's wrestling. And I think about,
Speaker 3: you know, their time in NXT, especially Stephanie Vickers, and
Speaker 3: looking now, I'm like, you've got her as a women's champion,
Speaker 3: You've got Julia as women's United States Champion. Like they
Speaker 3: have really shown why they were so highly tout it
Speaker 3: coming in.
Speaker 2: And I'm completely happy for you.
Speaker 3: I agreed that this was the situation where Eosky can take.
Speaker 3: The loss doesn't hurt her at all. It gives a
Speaker 3: big elevation to Stephanie, who's already sitting pretty high. But
Speaker 3: this just solidifies it, and I think they will continue
Speaker 3: to have more matches. I look forward to some of
Speaker 3: the other matches that Stephanie has, and I want her
Speaker 3: to be able to defend this title a couple of
Speaker 3: times and really show her stuff in that realm before
Speaker 3: any eventual losses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope it's not. She just wins the title
Speaker 1: and she just becomes backstage promo person, Like that's what
Speaker 1: TRIPLEH did with EO, and that was like like, Hiria,
Speaker 1: good match. Hi whoever? Good Match's? Like, yeah, what are
Speaker 1: we doing here? Like I've said before, I was a
Speaker 1: big fan and when Brett Hart would like main event
Speaker 1: the program and like defend his title against tug Boat
Speaker 1: and he'd get like a three point five out of
Speaker 1: tug Boat, Like and EO was that person that could
Speaker 1: have done that. You could have put her in there,
Speaker 1: Like maybe it's not the most drama because people thought, oh,
Speaker 1: she's gonna win but you could put her there with
Speaker 1: Ivy Nile and I bet you she's gonna get like
Speaker 1: a really good matcher or like especially with it be
Speaker 1: on that flat did.
Speaker 5: Have a really good match with Ivy.
Speaker 1: That's why like these worker people that, like especially with Io,
Speaker 1: is surprised because like, oh she knows English, but it's
Speaker 1: not like the first language everything. So sometimes the proms
Speaker 1: were very basic and I was surprised, Like she's the
Speaker 1: wrestler champion, why isn't she just like beating everybody and
Speaker 1: then you know, eventually lose it the way she did
Speaker 1: with my Bank. So I hope with Stephanie it's not
Speaker 1: she just becomes the Aura girl and that's where or
Speaker 1: just like six you know Tony Kahan six Women tags
Speaker 1: all the time and everything.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean they're they're pretty stacked on raw
Speaker 3: with women. They rock Sande Perez, Rhea, Raquel, Natalia, you know,
Speaker 3: lyra Valkeria, Live Morgan whenever she eventually returns, like Kyrie saying,
Speaker 3: they're pretty stacked on raw when it comes to the
Speaker 3: women OSCA.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm looking.
Speaker 4: Forward to that the storyline stuff, like I feel like
Speaker 4: she definitely defends against OSCA at some point and she
Speaker 4: said that's like her her dream match to have like
Speaker 4: a one on one match with Osca, which I feel
Speaker 4: like that would be really good because they were in
Speaker 4: like one of those like four Ways for like Queen
Speaker 4: of the Rig and like they had some interactions there.
Speaker 4: But yeah, definitely, definitely, I feel like they'll do like
Speaker 4: a match with Raquel, especially since they've been like building
Speaker 4: her up a lot lately. You could do that, and yeah,
Speaker 4: like you said, I do want her to defend a lot. Honestly,
Speaker 4: she's gonna have the match with most likely Tiffany in
Speaker 4: a few weeks there, so that's at least one match
Speaker 4: to get there, and after that, yeah, I'll have to see.
Speaker 5: I wonder.
Speaker 4: I assume this story is probably what's gonna be like
Speaker 4: in sort of like the Wargames type story, but I
Speaker 4: guess I don't know if they do both ones on Raw.
Speaker 5: But I guess the SETH one that could.
Speaker 4: Be like a cross brand one too, especially if you
Speaker 4: have like Cody and their like brock and scene in there.
Speaker 4: I guess, so you could probably find some women SmackDown
Speaker 4: to put in there.
Speaker 5: And I guess this.
Speaker 4: Sort of unrelated, but another random thought I had, is
Speaker 4: this probably like this is probably the first time, like
Speaker 4: the Women's World Championship is James hands in both AW
Speaker 4: and W on the same day, right, Like I don't
Speaker 4: think there'd be another one where they had like.
Speaker 2: A same day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would venture to say that because Aw's Women's
Speaker 3: has not changed hands a lot. But I said, we
Speaker 3: have the opportunity here she could run through all three
Speaker 3: of the Kabuki warriors, like just having those banger matches,
Speaker 3: and I think all three of them are such high
Speaker 3: caliber also that it would boost.
Speaker 2: Her stock ass champion.
Speaker 3: So I think that that's a good place to start
Speaker 3: after this whole Crown Jewel Women's what a Crown Jewel
Speaker 3: chance ampion ship thing, which again is completely I'm not
Speaker 3: here for that, but it is what it is, which is.
Speaker 1: Gonna be good though if it is her, and if
Speaker 1: it's her and Tiffany, I think that that's gonna be
Speaker 1: really good. Like I guess I could see a world
Speaker 1: I think we all agree that Tiffany's just gonna win
Speaker 1: by pinning Nye and they say the jade thing. I
Speaker 1: guess you could do a world where she jade pins
Speaker 1: Nah and tifty isn't lost. And you can do Jade
Speaker 1: and Stephanie, but I don't think that's a good idea.
Speaker 1: I think in that case though, of Stephanie versus Jade,
Speaker 1: I really don't know her. Sorry, Stephanie versus Tiffany and
Speaker 1: the winner there, I really don't know who would get
Speaker 1: that because it's there are both on interesting builds where
Speaker 1: I feel like Stephanie is getting the like the young upstart,
Speaker 1: you know, rookie just on a big role. I know
Speaker 1: she's not rookie but in WW right, But then Tiffany
Speaker 1: is getting this long reign and she's like getting the
Speaker 1: almost somewhat dominant champion of she's beat everybody on SmackDown.
Speaker 1: There's no one left. So it's that is a that
Speaker 1: is a tough one. Like if I feel like if
Speaker 1: I had to pick, I think they might give it
Speaker 1: to Stephanie just to keep that going because Tiffany hasn't
Speaker 1: lost in a while, so you can kind of keep that,
Speaker 1: you know, going up that you know, yeah, it got
Speaker 1: to or like I said the way I said about
Speaker 1: Cody and k Fabe, like eventually she's just been defending more,
Speaker 1: you know, Or you could always have Jade in here
Speaker 1: if you could have something right, because.
Speaker 3: I think that's I said, depending on how that match goes,
Speaker 3: the Triple Threat match goes, especially if Jade is not
Speaker 3: involved in the pinfall, I could see her then coming
Speaker 3: in and interrupting this match and staking her claim against
Speaker 3: Tiffany because they could get that titled wrong.
Speaker 1: Isn't that he Live beat NYA? Wasn't there some shenanigans
Speaker 1: going on in that match? I thought, like, like lived
Speaker 1: into beat NYE clean? Right, I thought there was done
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, that's what I mean where we've seen
Speaker 1: that before, right, So but yeah, we'll see that'll be
Speaker 1: if they let them go again. I would not the
Speaker 1: same way Tiffany or Stephanie losing either way. That's why
Speaker 1: I think they would give Tiffany losing just because Stiffany
Speaker 1: just won the title and be alled to lose. But like,
Speaker 1: that's what I did. You know. I liked triph first
Speaker 1: took over, and I like what AW usually does is
Speaker 1: if you have two Titans and one of them just loses,
Speaker 1: that's okay because someone's gonna lose, you know. It's the
Speaker 1: same way as football. It's like and then that gives
Speaker 1: where drama the next time they verse go, hey, you
Speaker 1: beat me last time. It's like the same time when
Speaker 1: in the future when they do Gunther and Cody too,
Speaker 1: it's like Cody got him at the Rumble, he got
Speaker 1: him at Saudi goother has like a full reason like no,
Speaker 1: I gotta I'm gonna beat you this time because you
Speaker 1: got my number, right, Like I think there's there's a
Speaker 1: great cadence as far as I loved it back in
Speaker 1: the day and many times. Right, but Tommy Dreamer always said,
Speaker 1: like I don't ever want to beat Raven because that's
Speaker 1: always a story, right of can I beat you this time?
Speaker 1: That's I don't think there's anything wrong with having one
Speaker 1: superstar that's beating you multile times because there's always story
Speaker 1: there and then when you eventually that's what they're doing
Speaker 1: with EO and Rheo, right that, And I'll give them
Speaker 1: credit that Rhea stillesn't beat EO in a triple thread
Speaker 1: and that and that's where it's good of like Reea
Speaker 1: can be so good, can beat anybody else, but for
Speaker 1: some reason, Eo Sky has her number, and I love
Speaker 1: that story. So that's why to me, it's like if
Speaker 1: Tiffany loses, not like oh, pushes over, like Guther lost
Speaker 1: a cod and he end up being Okay. I think
Speaker 1: him losing the Jay hurt him more than Cody if anything.
Speaker 3: So but yeah, yeah, the the Cody loss, when it
Speaker 3: came to Gunther, it made sense. And then you had
Speaker 3: that whole like that dishevel like I'm supposed to be
Speaker 3: that like how did I get to this point? And
Speaker 3: it added more to Gunther. So yeah, those moments make sense.
Speaker 3: You got big name versus big name, someone's gotta fall.
Speaker 3: It's the same when it comes like whoever goes to
Speaker 3: the super Bowl. You're not going to say, well, that
Speaker 3: team sucked. I don't even know why, Like they both
Speaker 3: got to this super Bowl. Someone's got to win, and
Speaker 3: I think it's the same right here, So you could
Speaker 3: have them go over. I have a feeling that Tiffany's
Speaker 3: gonna get screwed somehow in that match. Lets Stephanie win,
Speaker 3: and I'm all for that. She's the newer champion, She's
Speaker 3: the one that you're currently building up. Tiffany has been
Speaker 3: built up already as a legitimate contender, So continue building Stephanie,
Speaker 3: Vie cure up. Let her take it and go in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, so well. Speaking of the women's division big
Speaker 1: showcase last night, which again this is just to me
Speaker 1: crazy that you got Tiffany in this big brain Stephanie,
Speaker 1: you know, a hot news star like I mean stan Wise,
Speaker 1: but of course yes, she's very attractive lady as well.
Speaker 1: Everything on Twitter, there's there's lots of stuff there I get.
Speaker 1: Emily was like, oh my god, my god, that was
Speaker 1: he said that. He said something else where He's like, man,
Speaker 1: he is walking line like, oh, I'd like to smooch
Speaker 1: that devil's kiss. I was like, man, you sound like
Speaker 1: Jerry Lawer in the nineties. I'm fine that.
Speaker 5: There's another one where he said something like.
Speaker 1: That you're a married man.
Speaker 3: Wade calm down, like you know, he starts yelling out
Speaker 3: about puppies.
Speaker 1: I am done with Wade channeling that. But I like
Speaker 1: he we.
Speaker 3: Got full horny Wade tonight all grand yeah, but and that's.
Speaker 4: Where he gets more horny or when he gets yeah.
Speaker 1: But what I was I gonna say, So, that's what's
Speaker 1: so crazy is all this stuff is going on and
Speaker 1: TRIPLEH loves her, but Julia is just like that title
Speaker 1: is dead in the water over. They need something, they
Speaker 1: need something. They there, you go to me, it's like,
Speaker 1: find somebody that's great and do a best of five
Speaker 1: Julian and just have that like they need something over there,
Speaker 1: because like even now with Becky and had An I see,
Speaker 1: and now with AJ, it's just like it's kind of
Speaker 1: crazy that you know, this big showcase and Austin. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna happen in Perth, but we
Speaker 1: know at some point they're gonna do AG and Becky.
Speaker 1: I think that could go either way. I think AJ
Speaker 1: could win. I think Becky could win, Like they could
Speaker 1: also do it like a trilogy where Becky kind of
Speaker 1: like lyra sneaks that when well, who knows. But to me,
Speaker 1: the mixtape over delivered because I thought, yeah, they went
Speaker 1: thirty minutes, like just like five minutes, like just a
Speaker 1: couple under Kyle Fletcher and Hangman who were doing like
Speaker 1: this like wrestling class like this was to.
Speaker 4: Me, it was like just this one match was almost
Speaker 4: as long as every match a long.
Speaker 5: Day Diva's title reign combined.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that that's what's crazy, and that's what for me,
Speaker 1: that was the thing I was most happy about that.
Speaker 1: I thought about his last episode, But AJ never got
Speaker 1: to do like she had a couple of Page, a
Speaker 1: couple of Kalin, but never this like huge high profile, yes,
Speaker 1: cinema match tables weapons because I remember when Page because
Speaker 1: they used to do the theme like payter Reviews and
Speaker 1: was hell in the Cell And I remember there being
Speaker 1: a big campaign for Pages and AJ's like blowoff match
Speaker 1: to give them the cell. Everyone's like they should get
Speaker 1: the first woman sell and they didn't, and everyone like
Speaker 1: was really pissy about and stuff. So that's where it's like,
Speaker 1: now we're in this era where this can happen. So
Speaker 1: even seeing the table bump where Becky, which I loved
Speaker 1: and it broke in such a cool way like accidentally,
Speaker 1: but when just what a maneuver Like I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: chuck you at your husband and Seth and kudos to
Speaker 1: Punk because it's the funniest thing ever. Pointed us on
Speaker 1: the discord that when they hit the table a j
Speaker 1: bounce and Punk saw it, he sold for like two
Speaker 1: seconds and then just got right up like hey you okay,
Speaker 1: Like she's a history of back and she's I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it was wrong, but it's just so funny how
Speaker 1: you can tell you when to husband motive, he sold shit,
Speaker 1: he was he got right up. He didn't even care.
Speaker 1: But no, this match, to me, it's similar to like
Speaker 1: it just sounds different, but like Moxley and the Hangman,
Speaker 1: where I would never give that as a five star
Speaker 1: as far as like the match quality, but for the
Speaker 1: entertainment wise, they hit everything.
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, like Cody and Seth versus Rock and Roman.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, like it just.
Speaker 4: Went like way way more than I thought it was
Speaker 4: gonna be, especially at length, even though that hour was
Speaker 4: like no one was like fifteen minutes long, but like
Speaker 4: just in terms of the stuff they did and like
Speaker 4: stuff that like it was the same thing, like I
Speaker 4: didn't think like the Rock was gonna take like getting
Speaker 4: rock bottom by Cody to like they're the announced table
Speaker 4: and stuff.
Speaker 1: Like that same thing when they're on the tables. Because
Speaker 1: what happened was the match was like kind of coming
Speaker 1: to a crescendo and then all of a sudden they
Speaker 1: went outside and they started removing the tables. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, like we got another like five to
Speaker 1: ten minutes here, and I was surprised what was going on.
Speaker 1: But it was great, and I love the dual spots
Speaker 1: and that's something what it felt like. It felt like
Speaker 1: AJ was like, I'm sure they all plan and whatnot,
Speaker 1: but it just felt like I got a bunch of
Speaker 1: shit I want to do here that I've never got
Speaker 1: to do. Let's do it, and no, to me, it
Speaker 1: over delivered big time. Yeah, AJ was a little rusty.
Speaker 1: She needs to work on those punches, those those long
Speaker 1: that's tough for me. I was like, I love my girl,
Speaker 1: but like, those are some tough ones. But no, I
Speaker 1: hope with other couples or managers. They which was so funny,
Speaker 1: they had these stats of both couples were undefeated and
Speaker 1: intergender tags and stuff. But and the best thing, because
Speaker 1: you never know with WW and where there's at, I
Speaker 1: love that they started the match broke down to okay,
Speaker 1: the men are just wrestling the woman, and here we go,
Speaker 1: you know, and the crowd ate that for every old
Speaker 1: time it's gonna be I'm not gonna take a bump
Speaker 1: for its lady. It's like the people that are watching
Speaker 1: at home, they don't give a shit. And we live
Speaker 1: in an era where there are dozens of women in
Speaker 1: UFC that could beat the shit out of millions of
Speaker 1: men on the planet. So it's like we're not in
Speaker 1: the era anymore, puppies and divas and stuff. So I
Speaker 1: love when I ages do it like they're they're stealing shows.
Speaker 1: Move like the AJ stomp and again like I send
Speaker 1: the discorder earlier. It's like for some reason, it felt
Speaker 1: like the Yeah, the Black Women and he saw the
Speaker 1: great eyes. Happy.
Speaker 5: I thought he was gonna like actually tap out.
Speaker 1: I thought for second two the way his hand was,
Speaker 1: and I was happy Punk was starting to sell for
Speaker 1: Becky too, because it bugged me the whole time. Anytime
Speaker 1: she hit him, it was like Superman to like a
Speaker 1: little kid. It's like she's still like a women's like
Speaker 1: sell a little bit. But then he did and like
Speaker 1: she did a sharpshooter on him, like all this stuff.
Speaker 4: Like when he was turning around, I thought he was
Speaker 4: going for like the figure four.
Speaker 5: Figure eight was.
Speaker 1: What bridges and that's the figure they They just put
Speaker 1: in so much and that's why it's like I love
Speaker 1: that they were bumping for each other and it was
Speaker 1: it was tremendous, Like I wouldn't even be mad if
Speaker 1: they just flat out ran this match back with like
Speaker 1: a stip or anything else, Like they just this this
Speaker 1: was fantastic, So they to me over delivered on what
Speaker 1: I thought was gonna be. So yeah, this is, like
Speaker 1: I said, probably my third match leakend for just because
Speaker 1: entertainment wise.
Speaker 3: Though, yeah, there's I view this very highly, like if
Speaker 3: I had degraded and be a B plus a minus.
Speaker 3: But a lot of that is because of the nostalgia aspect.
Speaker 3: It is just seeing a j Lee and having those moments, man,
Speaker 3: Seth skipping around and then the second time you did it,
Speaker 3: skipping into the g Yeah, those those moments make that match.
Speaker 3: So while the last match to women's match is just man,
Speaker 3: this was a damn good match or a Hangman in
Speaker 3: flesh was just like, this is a damn good match.
Speaker 3: This was man, this is fun. I'm I'm loving seeing this.
Speaker 3: I'm loving seeing some of the things. Yeah, there there
Speaker 3: were some miscues and was.
Speaker 1: Still on a couple of times. That moment when he
Speaker 1: when he had Becky it was Becky, right, Seth and
Speaker 1: Becky in the air, Yeah, and then he's like to
Speaker 1: throw them and you can see Seth like he said something.
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, and then he rolls out
Speaker 1: the way and there they did this and end up
Speaker 1: still being cool. But they did this thing where Seth
Speaker 1: caught AJ and they were going down, and it's supposed
Speaker 1: happened as Punk supposed to meet the me. He catches
Speaker 1: Aj and throws them back. Agies were fully fun. The
Speaker 1: speed and then punch oh, and then just picked and through.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a couple of times Punk was a
Speaker 1: little behind on.
Speaker 3: I did kind of feel like just I rewatched this
Speaker 3: match earlier and there was a couple of times where
Speaker 3: I spotted where it looked like Punk was not fully
Speaker 3: in tuned with the match, And I think.
Speaker 2: That is all because this was AJ's.
Speaker 3: First match, and I think he was like legitimately a
Speaker 3: reveling in his wife and her return, but also at
Speaker 3: times being like, ooh, that kind of looked like horror pump,
Speaker 3: you get over there, you get over there, because there
Speaker 3: were times where he broke character on a couple of
Speaker 3: moments where she did something nice and you look over
Speaker 3: and he's like, yeah, that's my girl.
Speaker 1: Like that moment though, when they when when Becky tapped
Speaker 1: and they had the shotgun on the table like eccelerating,
Speaker 1: that was really it was good stuff, you know, And
Speaker 1: that's where probably just nervous effect of like, sure they've
Speaker 1: tagged and done this before, but this is a whole
Speaker 1: different scenario.
Speaker 3: Their husband and wife, that's husband, jacket and everything else. Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was it was fun. The double submission spot was fun.
Speaker 3: Aj doing her submission on both of them, getting them
Speaker 3: both into the Black Widow, and then you know, rolling
Speaker 3: through there like that was fun. So it was just
Speaker 3: it was a good fun match, and you know, I
Speaker 3: enjoyed it, but yes, I will. My biggest criticism to
Speaker 3: your point is punk no selling. Like the slaps and
Speaker 3: stuff from Becky. It made sense the night that aj
Speaker 3: Lee returned because hey, I know I've got back up,
Speaker 3: so I just got to sit here and take this
Speaker 3: for a bit. But in that match, again, she's a
Speaker 3: former woman champion, she's the man. She has wrestled and
Speaker 3: gone toe to toe with men before. Like her her hits
Speaker 3: and her slaps should make you feel some type of
Speaker 3: way protect This isn't big show giving you a w
Speaker 3: m D. But this is also this is this is
Speaker 3: someone giving you a nice little slat.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so no, I no, I agree. I wish
Speaker 1: they did a little bit of that, but yeah, that's
Speaker 1: should should have went on last still to my opinions
Speaker 1: that the crowd was rocking the most. It was into it,
Speaker 1: and you know, uh, I suppose to anything more say
Speaker 1: on the mixed Tank.
Speaker 4: Uh No, Like you said, I wouldn't even be opposed
Speaker 4: that they just ran this back in like extreme rules
Speaker 4: or like a table smatch or something like that. I'd
Speaker 4: be okay with that. But I do think they're gonna
Speaker 4: go into the the a j Lee and uh and
Speaker 4: Becky Feud. I do wonder what Punk does in the meantime,
Speaker 4: because obviously sets gonna be with the Cody and just
Speaker 4: doing stuff with Becky.
Speaker 5: I don't really know what Punk is is up to.
Speaker 1: When you were talking about and obviously he's not Australian.
Speaker 1: But I would not even put a bass in that
Speaker 1: they do scene in Punk versus the bronz Ands or
Speaker 1: the Bronze I like to me, I could see that
Speaker 1: just as a and that could also be war games
Speaker 1: because what's after Survivor series? What's that pay per view?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 2: Do we got one more of that event?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Because because that used to be TLC time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what my mind always thinks that there's a
Speaker 1: December pay per view. So because you have to blow
Speaker 1: off Seth and Punk at some point, like you have
Speaker 1: to finally blow it off. You have to be done
Speaker 1: with this for like a good couple of years, and
Speaker 1: that's a tough thing. If they do what we've pitched
Speaker 1: at Brock and Seth and Rumble, Like I think there's
Speaker 1: a good chance that Punk and Seth could be at
Speaker 1: Rumble as well, Like that could be the final blow off.
Speaker 4: Or you could do it like whatever, because I assume
Speaker 4: like whatever, like the day one raw could be right,
Speaker 4: like maybe do like just like a full year like
Speaker 4: they do like the last match on like the first ROUW.
Speaker 1: That'd be cool. Yeah, that'd be cool. And make it
Speaker 1: a fucking arm and match and make Punk do sixty
Speaker 1: and see what happens. I want to see it. Man, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I like when you get I know some
Speaker 1: people don't like when he gets I don't mind like
Speaker 1: the match goo through when he gets slopped because to me,
Speaker 1: I buy that tired O'bviously, the spots last night were
Speaker 1: a little bit different, but yeah, day one, that can happen.
Speaker 1: They just have to blow it off because I just
Speaker 1: feel like that's not the WrestleMania match. Even though I think,
Speaker 1: like we've talked about before. Unless it's awesome, I really
Speaker 1: don't know what the punk mania matches like felt maybe
Speaker 1: you find another couple that agent punkin face off with,
Speaker 1: you know, like who's who's another couple we got like
Speaker 1: you can always well, remember we've pitched, right, we pitched
Speaker 1: punk and down before, so you could always do live
Speaker 1: in domin a j and Punk. So there's some other
Speaker 1: stuff you could do. But uh, yeah, I'll see and
Speaker 1: then yeah, but me event enjoy the match was good.
Speaker 1: I just like I said, I think this should not
Speaker 1: gone on last I could hear there's a few booze
Speaker 1: for Cody and I just I just worry they're gonna
Speaker 1: they're gonna, like fully seen a Roman him that they're
Speaker 1: gonna keep They're gonna make people bored of Cody and
Speaker 1: I and I don't think they should do that. I
Speaker 1: think last night was a good match. I liked the
Speaker 1: story of him being hurt so getting through it. I
Speaker 1: just felt like even the ways we booked it, as
Speaker 1: surprised that he just yeah, he just hit crossroads on
Speaker 1: I know Drew was her and there's a turn buckle,
Speaker 1: but he just he just beat him. So I I.
Speaker 2: Don't know why.
Speaker 4: This is like the first like Kevin Owans match, like
Speaker 4: the one he had in Berlin where it was just
Speaker 4: like kind of like through outside stuff but not really
Speaker 4: outside stuff. He won because that one, the story of
Speaker 4: that one was like Cody gets like injured in that
Speaker 4: match or like cave favorite. It was pretty much the
Speaker 4: same thing going in where he was like injured and
Speaker 4: like Kevin Owans could have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that like that closed the show though, right,
Speaker 1: that opened the show? Sure, yeah, and that that to
Speaker 1: me was just it's all about placed when I just
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just wondering how it's gonna go.
Speaker 1: The Age one felt better and just yeah, we didn't
Speaker 1: get a surprise. I'm down for that. I really wanted
Speaker 1: Drew to win just because he's my guy. I just
Speaker 1: think that now because he had that long run, there
Speaker 1: should be a couple more chases. Maybe that will happen.
Speaker 1: But uh, same thing. I'm curious see what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: We're getting close and close to Romanian season. But I'm
Speaker 1: very excited for Seth and Cody. But yeah, this match
Speaker 1: was good to me. This was like a solid like
Speaker 1: three point seven five. I couldn't get to the four
Speaker 1: I gave it. Yeah, that's where I am like three
Speaker 1: point seventy five. Good match, some good storytelling. Drew's always
Speaker 1: a delight. I love Drew Man, Like they've cooled him off,
Speaker 1: but he has such good characters stuff. The other time
Speaker 1: I knew he was losing two is when they did
Speaker 1: the title and he fucking like caressed him like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's for sure not winning it now like that, because
Speaker 1: that's such a heel move to be like, oh, look
Speaker 1: at me.
Speaker 4: Think I know there was one match like recently, I'm
Speaker 4: trying to remember what it was where like the person
Speaker 4: like touched the title and then they actually did end
Speaker 4: up winning.
Speaker 1: Oh really, do you ever think of that?
Speaker 4: You know, it definitely happened, And I was like it happened.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, well they're not.
Speaker 1: Winning now, but reverse psychology good.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. No.
Speaker 3: So with this match, like wrestling wise out of w
Speaker 3: W paper vs. Not counting the Night as Ault, just
Speaker 3: out this card out of wrestled Polue, I would say
Speaker 3: this was the second best wrestling match, but it wasn't
Speaker 3: the second best match. Second best wrestling match, just not
Speaker 3: the second best match. I did joke with some of
Speaker 3: my friends when they're like, oh, Cody wants another one.
Speaker 2: I was like, well you got us. Send the people
Speaker 2: home happy I go.
Speaker 3: You started off on a high, you had the aj
Speaker 3: Lee return, then you had the step and you make
Speaker 3: Man moment. Now you finished with Cody. It just skyrockets
Speaker 3: going up. But my my only parts about this that
Speaker 3: just seemed a little bit off was what there was
Speaker 3: the moment with the referee sliding out the ring and
Speaker 3: then sliding back in, and Drew is all pissed about that,
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, again, yeah, this is this is
Speaker 3: where life. A guy is coming at you full steam.
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you drop out and roll out the ring?
Speaker 3: That it's made not a sense.
Speaker 1: Using the commentary table as a weapon is not like
Speaker 1: a four Like we just had a match where two wrestlers,
Speaker 1: like four wrestlers were using as weapon. I get what
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to do is well, last time
Speaker 1: he did the goody really hurt him. But it's like,
Speaker 1: well whatever fuck Like.
Speaker 4: That on SmackDown like two weeks ago, when like like
Speaker 4: Randy lost to Drew because he was gonna he was
Speaker 4: gonna like actually do the punt kick and then the
Speaker 4: referee was like whoa, that's like a band move and
Speaker 4: Hoorn's like what and then the referee moved out of
Speaker 4: the way and then Drew Claymourdom.
Speaker 1: And one, Yeah, it's weird. There's two in a row
Speaker 1: that the Drew really likes the referee.
Speaker 5: It was the same referee.
Speaker 1: Interesting, you know, I'd be completely fine they did that because.
Speaker 3: We go the whole Brad Maddox thing with the screwball
Speaker 3: referee or who else did they do it with Scott
Speaker 3: Armstrong was like the corporations or not the corporate the
Speaker 3: authorities referee.
Speaker 1: Or even like I love this and they do that
Speaker 1: a little bit in aw with Rick Knox, right, like
Speaker 1: he kind of like is easier on the bugs. But
Speaker 1: I love they did that with Charles Robinson back there
Speaker 1: with Brick Flair, right because he was a little nate.
Speaker 1: Yeah when Rick would break the rules, Oh well, they're
Speaker 1: kind of friends, so that's why he lets them do it.
Speaker 1: So like I would love if this Drew's like this
Speaker 1: fucking ref you know, because give him the spot that
Speaker 1: Bronca where he needs to the ref Like I love
Speaker 1: the Drew, just claymore a ref.
Speaker 2: That refs trying to fuck on me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like and it's so I love when non wrestlers
Speaker 1: take the F five because like we just saw it
Speaker 1: this week. Corey Great, I'm happy you can take bumps.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. He took a bump the ret when he
Speaker 1: picked up that red the reference like he had he
Speaker 1: like lost gravity. He was like where the fuck, Like
Speaker 1: just go flat, Brock will pick you up. But he
Speaker 1: was like he almost fucked up the f FI for
Speaker 1: Brock just and luckily Brock's like strong as a fucking ox,
Speaker 1: but it's like just honker over, but they have no
Speaker 1: idea what to do with like why are your arms
Speaker 1: like this, He's gonna throw out You're gonna break an arm,
Speaker 1: Like what are you doing? It's just like tuck it, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like just lay flat and take the bump.
Speaker 4: There's one where like, uh like Brock gave him in
Speaker 4: the F five and it was like the softest, like
Speaker 4: fairly anything.
Speaker 1: I kind of remember that because I feel like it
Speaker 1: was really anti climath do what happened? And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh okay.
Speaker 5: Because it was like a table too, and he just
Speaker 5: like lately five.
Speaker 2: Yes, right, the table.
Speaker 3: My second issue with this was the hole the Drew
Speaker 3: mcintare going for the claymore, the legs buckling. It just
Speaker 3: seemed goofy for two guys who have been putting on
Speaker 3: a great match. That just seemed like a goofy spot
Speaker 3: of all, Oh no, my leg buckled, I can't do
Speaker 3: the run and things.
Speaker 1: Like I love that spot. I liked that one because
Speaker 1: he just David.
Speaker 3: He's like, but the way that he fell come on
Speaker 3: that was, Yes, that was some some goofy say that
Speaker 3: because the one that I've seen people hate the Cody
Speaker 3: so when he goes to the kicking he like falls
Speaker 3: down because like I think people just have an obsession
Speaker 3: with how Cody Rode walks in general.
Speaker 1: But like I was, like, I thought.
Speaker 5: That one was like like good.
Speaker 1: I liked because I thought tore a hammy, like I
Speaker 1: said last night, was like, oh no, Cody's down. See
Speaker 1: wrest of them.
Speaker 3: It looks like such a I fell in a banana
Speaker 3: peel moment.
Speaker 1: That's fair. Yeah, they both had a bit of those,
Speaker 1: but uh but I mean still bugs me that Trude
Speaker 1: does the three count for the claymore when he's a
Speaker 1: fucking heel, Like, why is he doing that? Why I
Speaker 1: always hated that. I understand why he does it. It's
Speaker 1: like the sweet Him music, but it just seems goofy
Speaker 1: in a match like sweet Him music. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't excuse either because it makes no sense. Why
Speaker 1: are you stomping and.
Speaker 2: Write well, they're tuning up the band.
Speaker 1: Well no, I think the k favorite reason they used
Speaker 1: to say is when opponent was down, if he stomped
Speaker 1: on the mat, it would wake them up, like Daisily.
Speaker 1: That's the kaya reason. But drew counting. If you hear that,
Speaker 1: anytime I'm rolling on the fuck the ring, I'm not
Speaker 1: getting up like I will come pin me like I.
Speaker 3: Think Randy Orton did do that. Randy Orton did do
Speaker 3: He started the count and Randy like got and then
Speaker 3: he just fell and rolled out the ring. And it
Speaker 3: was just like, yeah, yeah, if you're gonna telegraph it
Speaker 3: for me like that, and you have the entire crowd
Speaker 3: chanting with the I'm gonna roll out the ring, You're
Speaker 3: not gonna do.
Speaker 2: This to me again.
Speaker 1: With baby Face, I don't care at all because it's
Speaker 1: like you're part of Babyface. Your whole stick is like
Speaker 1: I feed off the people, right, So you want them chanting.
Speaker 1: But Drew, who like on record, hates the fucking WW universe,
Speaker 1: why is he wanted them to count with them? But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they have a I think there is legitimately
Speaker 1: a five star match potential there. It's just a question
Speaker 1: of if we get or It reminds me of Becky
Speaker 1: and Lyra, where I thought their last one was gonna
Speaker 1: be that, but then we got those Bailey Shenanigans and
Speaker 1: didn't really go that route. That's always my worry with Randy.
Speaker 1: Like I think Cody and Ran. People might think I'm dumb,
Speaker 1: but like I think Cody and Drew could have like
Speaker 1: a match to your candidate with the story and the
Speaker 1: right stip and the right situation. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 1: But so I hope, yeah, they run it back and
Speaker 1: I don't know. And like I said, I would love
Speaker 1: it if Drew Runner. I'm still not opposed to what
Speaker 1: you pitched us both someone doing the triple threat and
Speaker 1: that's how Randy wins, That's how we get to Cody
Speaker 1: and Randy at Mania. Like I I I take Cody
Speaker 1: and Randy as a great like option and I've always
Speaker 1: said before even if they don't Maine event the show,
Speaker 1: that's fine because Cody's main invented like WrestleMania thirty nine,
Speaker 1: forty one, both nights, forty or forty both nights. Like
Speaker 1: he's at forty. He can take a like Roman, he
Speaker 1: can take like a break he doesn't have. Well Roman
Speaker 1: actually hasn't taken a break the triple threat, right, but
Speaker 1: like him and Randy could open a fucking WrestleMania and
Speaker 1: have a hot match, you know.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they they don't need the Roman going six
Speaker 3: main events of WRESTLEMANI in a.
Speaker 2: Row or whatever it was. Yeah, they they can.
Speaker 1: He's still on the streak. He it hasn't. I think
Speaker 1: the last time he hasn't made event WrestleMania is when
Speaker 1: he fought Drew, actually when he came back from cancer.
Speaker 1: I think ever since then, whether it's the Night one
Speaker 1: or actually he's been the COVID Yeah exactly. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: astix because he would have been with Goldberg, right, he
Speaker 1: would been spearing Goldberg all over the place. But like,
Speaker 1: I think that, like he still has that streak going.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna again too. I think like because
Speaker 1: obviously him and Seth could be a viable option this year.
Speaker 3: And I do want Drew to get a championship win
Speaker 3: outside of the COVID area with fans and to hold
Speaker 3: it for a while. And you know what, even have
Speaker 3: him running once he's championed, have him running back with
Speaker 3: see him Punk, because I think they had some bangor
Speaker 3: room matches. Now do it with the title on the line, like.
Speaker 1: And they still never did Drew, Seth and Punk. How
Speaker 1: they never did that triple threat is beyond me.
Speaker 2: Which would be an absolute banger.
Speaker 3: So yeah, there's there's so many options while still keeping
Speaker 3: Cody strong. But yeah, overall, good match, five match, fun match,
Speaker 3: second best wrestling match, jess it. I agree that the
Speaker 3: AJ match should have finished off the show. Give her
Speaker 3: that moment, give her the confetti, give her the fireworks,
Speaker 3: give for everything to truly send the crowd home happy.
Speaker 1: And even that it was just the more like hype
Speaker 1: match for the crowd, Like that was just like that
Speaker 1: had the people going.
Speaker 3: You know, it was like, all right, we're done celebrating
Speaker 3: and here's the Undertaker for a weird Hall of Fame segment.
Speaker 1: So I will say it. I think I've said on
Speaker 1: psych or here, but in case I haven't. My conspiracy
Speaker 1: theory is they put in tributes last year and they're
Speaker 1: putting Stephanie in this year so they can get rid
Speaker 1: of at any point and they're like, oh, we got
Speaker 1: bring back for the whole of Fame, they're already in.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I don't think it's happening, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that's my conspiracy theory for why they're going
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame right now, because the fact
Speaker 1: it's not Sena is a little a little odd. No
Speaker 1: Batista still like we're still waiting everything, but uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was It's odd to do it so early in
Speaker 1: the year. I know people.
Speaker 4: I think someone said, like, is this the earliest one ever?
Speaker 4: And apparently there was like one like a like a
Speaker 4: very long time ago that was like but even then
Speaker 4: that one.
Speaker 5: Was like, this was a month earlier than even that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to see earliest.
Speaker 3: I feel like with both Brunos San Martino and with
Speaker 3: Ultimate Warrior, those were announced pretty early, but both of
Speaker 3: those were like big lunchpin moments, Like Ultimate Warrior coming
Speaker 3: Back was around the release of the game, so it's
Speaker 3: like a little bit after that in the late October time.
Speaker 3: Bruno San Martino was a big deal, so they annown said,
Speaker 3: you knew who the headliner is.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: I have a feeling that this year's headliner might be Sena,
Speaker 3: so you finish him out this year's there's there's no.
Speaker 5: I don't think's going in.
Speaker 4: But you could have like Seena Inductor or something like that.
Speaker 3: No, you've already said that Undertaker's going to Inductor, he said,
Speaker 3: he said, I'm it's.
Speaker 1: My announce I don't think he's actually inducting her. I
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong.
Speaker 5: So you can give another forty five minutes.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be triple h or I know people are
Speaker 1: gonna think I'm crazy.
Speaker 2: Here comes the money.
Speaker 1: No shame, No, I think I would not surprise me
Speaker 1: if it's fucking Vince. I like, don't get like because
Speaker 1: people are gonna be like, well, it's his daughter and
Speaker 1: something special, or or her mom. I think Linda is
Speaker 1: a better option because she's been at w W event,
Speaker 1: she's been the whole fame after all this stuff.
Speaker 2: That's what I'll say. I bet it's gonna be fucking
Speaker 2: the American education.
Speaker 1: Well, she's gonna take five minutes out of her time
Speaker 1: to go in doctor Doll. I mean to say it's Linda.
Speaker 3: But I would everyone go read a book that night
Speaker 3: at your last opportunity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I think it's gonna be I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be Linda. In my opinion, they could be triple
Speaker 1: h because.
Speaker 5: You know, of course he would.
Speaker 1: Of course he would. But yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 2: So his music playing not hers?
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else non or anything else WD. Really we
Speaker 1: haven't hit upon yet. No, I don't think so Okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah we will. Like I said, I think what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do is either we will we'll see.
Speaker 5: The dream is like a month or a week after
Speaker 5: it's eighteenth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So do you have one request for all the
Speaker 3: aw executives who I know are listening now that we
Speaker 3: have Stephanie ve Kira's champion and we have n Italia
Speaker 3: on raw, give me Natty.
Speaker 2: Stop giving it to Mexico. I want to see it.
Speaker 2: Have her fight the chilain say.
Speaker 4: And in my opinion, like people are overhyping the Natty gimmick,
Speaker 4: like she literally I would say, like what I would.
Speaker 4: What else saying before is like she wrestles the exact same,
Speaker 4: just with the serious face on, but she does.
Speaker 2: But the comment the commentary, actually the commentary gives her
Speaker 2: respect though.
Speaker 4: Like she still does like the smile, Like she puts
Speaker 4: on the sharp Shooter and she still does the smiling
Speaker 4: paper she wrestles. She is the exact same character. This
Speaker 4: character is so much where she is the exact No.
Speaker 2: It's it's more it's more of.
Speaker 3: The respect that she gets as that character rather than
Speaker 3: her wrestling style. Yes, her wrestling style does stay the same,
Speaker 3: but it's more of the respect that they give her,
Speaker 3: not only from a commentary but also a presentation aspect,
Speaker 3: which is something.
Speaker 1: I think that biggest argument on the Gimmick is about
Speaker 1: over Anatty Knight. Are you know what an episode? But yeah,
Speaker 1: I know I I have heard what I see both sides,
Speaker 1: because I think Dave's right with the presentations there. But
Speaker 1: I have seen the memes of she puts in the
Speaker 1: sharp shooting like yeah, maybe, and it's the spot so
Speaker 1: like she should yeah, she should pull back a little
Speaker 1: bit to get there. I'm down dated.
Speaker 4: I've liked her in like blood Sport more than like
Speaker 4: just like normal wrestling matches, Like I think she does
Speaker 4: cooler stuff there. Yeah, so I don't know they should
Speaker 4: bring you know, call up Lola Ice the main roster
Speaker 4: so you can do the underground.
Speaker 1: Haven't managed by Josh Barnett. He finally makes his big
Speaker 1: ridge between AW and WW was.
Speaker 5: He came out with Goldberg your own.
Speaker 1: What a what a fairing? Oh God? Well anyway, so yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens there. Now we move on to
Speaker 1: All Out. I thought all that was a great show.
Speaker 1: I think it was better than for Bin Door. I
Speaker 1: think it's other than AW. I think like All In
Speaker 1: or some of their bigger shows where it's like it's
Speaker 1: a long show, but almost every match is matt like
Speaker 1: a big big match. There's yes, multiple matches on this card.
Speaker 1: You could cut and make a dynamite main event, a
Speaker 1: collision made event. I think that's just always unfortunately gonna
Speaker 1: be a calm with a like That's why unless it
Speaker 1: to those big shows and unless every match is a
Speaker 1: you know, three point seventy five and up, then I
Speaker 1: you know, because something like All into Me that was
Speaker 1: like a five out of five show. Even if not
Speaker 1: all the matches were great, it all fell I had
Speaker 1: a purpose, a story was meant to be there with
Speaker 1: this is at least three I'm looking at you could
Speaker 1: cut and some are after the fact, right, Like for me,
Speaker 1: it's like Money and Rio. Once we saw the quality,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, that didn't need to be here. You know,
Speaker 1: I would rather fuck again not none. We don't need
Speaker 1: the multi woman tag all the time. Like that is
Speaker 1: like a like what I would have done is take
Speaker 1: Tekla out of the foreway and let her and Queen
Speaker 1: Amnada had like the weapons match on this show and
Speaker 1: sat Amona and Rio. You know, like there is changes
Speaker 1: I would make, But I digress that. I think this
Speaker 1: was a really fun show for the big stuff. I
Speaker 1: think they delivered a lot. Toronto was hot for the
Speaker 1: most part, and uh yeah no, this was.
Speaker 4: A like people like the crowd was like weird, especially
Speaker 4: I mean people are pointing out for like the women's matches.
Speaker 5: They were like pretty silent the time.
Speaker 1: I heard that about Money on Rio. But it's like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been getting hyped for this, like Rio
Speaker 1: was not. I had not seen the match that she
Speaker 1: had had on Dynamite or whatever, but I had heard
Speaker 1: about because I missed that dynamond I had heard that
Speaker 1: it was not a good match, and when I was
Speaker 1: watching here, it's like money was carrying her the entire time.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, it was. It was really tough, So
Speaker 1: I guess you're right, SUPs. I meant for maybe the
Speaker 1: bigger stuff that was happening, like the thumb Tacks match.
Speaker 1: The crowd was going because the Thumbtacks, but it's just
Speaker 1: like they added to like the oh Osie Edge and
Speaker 1: Christian was there the main event they were hot for,
Speaker 1: so that's where But I agree then, yeah, the Woman's
Speaker 1: four way. I think also that was to me kind
Speaker 1: of like a it was good but it's clunky. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was aw, that's what's like. I think they did
Speaker 1: quiet down. But for me, it's like I wasn't surprised
Speaker 1: when they did quiet down. I guess you know, I'm.
Speaker 3: I'm not really getting the hype behind THEKLA, not to
Speaker 3: the degree that Bandwagon over getting pushed like she is
Speaker 3: always in these crazy positions and I'm.
Speaker 1: Just like, she's.
Speaker 2: She's good.
Speaker 1: But I was because all i'd heard about people complaining
Speaker 1: about see I'm on the opposite that I don't think
Speaker 1: the problems those aren't good. But her in the ring,
Speaker 1: I think she's really dynamic. I like her I don't
Speaker 1: think last night was a best showing for really anybody.
Speaker 1: But yeah, what do you think of the show over
Speaker 1: all day before? Because we're getting in the single match,
Speaker 1: so we'll do a show and then we'll get back
Speaker 1: to the four way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there there are There's two matches that I think
Speaker 3: could have been cut and two more matches that I
Speaker 3: think could have been augmented, not only in the time
Speaker 3: but also the participants that would have just made the show.
Speaker 1: That's what he's augmented.
Speaker 3: Not necessarily techling, but I mean the ending Hangman and
Speaker 3: Kyle Fletcher, they gave an amazing MATCHMN and those dead
Speaker 3: eyes like had me really wondering about Fletcher. I'm like,
Speaker 3: is he okay? Especially the one through the table, I'm like,
Speaker 3: is he all right? His head bounced where he just
Speaker 3: got robbed.
Speaker 1: He's like, everyone complains I'll be hurting people, so please
Speaker 1: hurt me tonight, hang Man, So you do the buck
Speaker 1: shot afterwards, and he kind of lands awkwardly on the
Speaker 1: side of his shoulder. At that point, I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: that didn't break his neck. This obviously broke his collar
Speaker 1: Bone'm like, my man is is going through it all?
Speaker 1: But I'm very happy that they they just let those
Speaker 1: guys go and they didn't find any weird shenanigans, any
Speaker 1: unannounced new member of the don Kallis family that's gonna
Speaker 1: do anything.
Speaker 3: He just yeah, I know he's not one of ours.
Speaker 3: We can't be in trouble type deal. Like, they just
Speaker 3: let him have an incredible match and so that that
Speaker 3: that was really good. As much as I thought that
Speaker 3: m Jeff was gonna win his match him Mark Briscoe Winnings,
Speaker 3: they put on a damn good match. And I love
Speaker 3: the ending of that, just the you've been talking shit
Speaker 3: on me and my fan, I am.
Speaker 2: Gonna put you away.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it had a great start, a
Speaker 3: good medal, a great end. It was just some other
Speaker 3: tidbits in there that I think for having fourteen matches overall.
Speaker 3: And I also like why Tony knowing everything that has
Speaker 3: happened during the last two years. I get the the
Speaker 3: insight joking of it all, but why name part of
Speaker 3: your pre showed the brawl out and.
Speaker 1: All out excepting it. Man, Just no, just no, I'm
Speaker 1: just surprised. I have the bucks on there, you know,
Speaker 1: like that, that to me was the key to do it.
Speaker 1: But just named the ladder match the brawl out exactly.
Speaker 1: You know, so what we asked because I think you
Speaker 1: watched most of until.
Speaker 5: The most of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't see the ladder match, and then I
Speaker 4: saw like the second half of like Edge and Christian. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like I didn't see the very start of it. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I enjoyed the show overall. I think from what I
Speaker 4: did see, I thought, Yeah, I liked all the matches
Speaker 4: pretty much.
Speaker 1: I have to think we are you on the techlast
Speaker 1: side of things?
Speaker 5: You're switching an opinion.
Speaker 3: I don't know, how do you feel about techla versus Natty? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the w W a W dream show and that's.
Speaker 3: In an old school Lions didn't Matchamrock special guest referee.
Speaker 1: Where is Shamrock? Why have they not brought him back
Speaker 1: from anything? He's in the games, he's on the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame.
Speaker 3: Yet you know we're I think he was like talking
Speaker 3: match shit recently, so that that may be why.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be in two K twenty six.
Speaker 5: I guess, yeah, i'd have to think. I don't know
Speaker 5: what my my favorite match was.
Speaker 1: You're King Moxley in the coffin.
Speaker 4: Oh well, I don't know, because then that one, like
Speaker 4: like they did go like I said in the discord,
Speaker 4: like right when I said, like, well, I was expecting
Speaker 4: it to be crazier they brought out like the fork
Speaker 4: and stuff. But even then, like with the ending and stuff,
Speaker 4: which is like pop and the Death Riders coming out,
Speaker 4: I still felt like it needed something more. But now
Speaker 4: seeing that they're probably gonna have a rematch, I imagine that
Speaker 4: Scot would be.
Speaker 2: So just say some of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I guess I'd say my favorite one was
Speaker 4: probably like the dumb text match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they're just saving something. And again that was
Speaker 1: weird because's like no one in the roster's gonna come
Speaker 1: help this dude, like they're gonna maybe murder him. And
Speaker 1: it's like I hate storylines where it's all the whole
Speaker 1: company hates this faction. But then when it's like they're
Speaker 1: doing something, Nah, we can't do anything, it's just like
Speaker 1: it's just two pay per views in a row of that,
Speaker 1: And then the ending Forbidden Door where they're killing the
Speaker 1: osprey and they could climb the fucking cage where they
Speaker 1: just let him die, it's just like you babyfaces, suck man,
Speaker 1: you all suck, You're awful, like the death rights deserve
Speaker 1: to kill you all. It's just dumb.
Speaker 4: It's dumb stuff like there was a segment with mox
Speaker 4: and Darby after Yes, just because I didn't miss that,
Speaker 4: Like what happened.
Speaker 1: There, it's so dumb. So they go back to just
Speaker 1: pulling the coffin, yeah, the coffin, and then they get
Speaker 1: in the truck like everybody but mocks like just leave
Speaker 1: me here with him?
Speaker 3: And who are these sixteen year olds in a small
Speaker 3: town high school, like everyone jumping in the back of
Speaker 3: the pick up pack just.
Speaker 2: It is, so they had to because there's so many members.
Speaker 1: Now they leave him, and then of course once the
Speaker 1: truck pulls away, that's when Darry pops up and starts beating.
Speaker 1: He has like a wrench and he's being up Moxley.
Speaker 1: And then he put Moxley in a body bag. He
Speaker 1: sprayed a gasoline and then lit on fire, and Moxy's like,
Speaker 1: oh and then guys.
Speaker 3: Immediately yeah, immediately to.
Speaker 1: Me, that's where it's like, I get I don't think
Speaker 1: it was live live, but that's where it's like, do
Speaker 1: something more cinematic, like to make it like look like
Speaker 1: he's on fire for a little longer. But that's why
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have like a fireball match, or
Speaker 1: they might do an exploding barb wire match like they
Speaker 1: legitimately I think they because once you introduce the fire
Speaker 1: I feel like that's just they're gonna go that route
Speaker 1: and hopefully, like the thing about the Omega Moxley match,
Speaker 1: it actually was really good up until the ending. The
Speaker 1: ending really screwed it over. That was the first blunder
Speaker 1: eight of you ever had, But the match itself is good.
Speaker 1: So I think they're gonna do that and just make
Speaker 1: sure their pyro is on lock for this match, like
Speaker 1: test it up multiple times, multiple times, and at that
Speaker 1: point just have like tn T with you and just
Speaker 1: throw it if it doesn't go off, you know, like
Speaker 1: this has to be big.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And going back to the first exploding barbar match,
Speaker 3: when that didn't go off, I was like, man, they
Speaker 3: missed an incredible opportunity to like cut to Tony Kahan
Speaker 3: in the back like messing around with something and pretending
Speaker 3: like I stop this because I don't I know you
Speaker 3: agreed to this, but I don't want my wrestlers hurt.
Speaker 1: No, they just we're just cut the black and let
Speaker 1: all we couldn't show you like that's what they cut
Speaker 1: the blacklay the.
Speaker 5: Mess up player?
Speaker 4: Is that like, because I think I forget who like
Speaker 4: some people like run out immediately and.
Speaker 3: Like Eddie Kingston runs out and in carry's no because.
Speaker 4: Because Eddie's the one in the ring, and so the
Speaker 4: issue that that came up is like he's in the
Speaker 4: ring and he like honestly like he was like covering
Speaker 4: I think was it. Yeah, so honestly he did see
Speaker 4: that it like didn't go off correctly, so he's like.
Speaker 5: He's selling it.
Speaker 4: But then like people immediately ran out to play it, like, oh,
Speaker 4: it didn't go off, so they go and help him.
Speaker 4: He's still selling like he died. And when it didn't
Speaker 4: go off, I don't know why I couldn't just have,
Speaker 4: like I don't know, done some different camerang once it
Speaker 4: didn't go off.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, it's all retrospect too, right, because you
Speaker 1: probably that's probably last thing you're thinking about, Like, even
Speaker 1: if it goes off, it's not gonna look like this
Speaker 1: because the other stuff was working right when they're hitting.
Speaker 1: So it's like I think they just thought, ah, it's
Speaker 1: all good and then of course just these little pew fireworks.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just like kind in.
Speaker 4: Fight Forever, there's like there's like a cheet code, like
Speaker 4: an upuff Downtown ab type thing to make do that
Speaker 4: before you pick the game ode and it does like
Speaker 4: the the Sparklers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were they were smart. The next Wednesday
Speaker 1: they made Callous and Kenny Omega meme it like that's
Speaker 1: the classic sixty nine me Dawn, like all this stuff,
Speaker 1: Like they were smart. But then that's again where I
Speaker 1: wish they were smart with the punk stuff, because where
Speaker 1: the punk hat stuff happened, they all became like corporate
Speaker 1: all hoity toy businessman. It's like, when did you guys
Speaker 1: used to handle like your his fuck ups and stuff.
Speaker 1: You used to make jokes and used to like make
Speaker 1: money off it, But not that time.
Speaker 3: But at Michael Nakazawa pouring himself with baby oil because
Speaker 3: of the whole slip thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I don't know how much more I need.
Speaker 1: Like I was ready for this to be the match
Speaker 1: where Darby kills Mosley gets the wind and we move
Speaker 1: on and then you start do drama with the death Riders.
Speaker 1: I don't need this to go on any longer. Really,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you had to disband the Death Riders
Speaker 1: because I think so. I like the Garcia stuff. Also,
Speaker 1: be to talk about that he officially turned heel. I
Speaker 1: hate his gear. There's just like the Jim shorts. He
Speaker 1: looks like a geek like, he looks like a loose
Speaker 1: like that guy. Luckily he's a heel. You're not getting
Speaker 1: over wearing that stuff. You're not seeing Punk in roh okay.
Speaker 1: Only he could do the fight choice. That's like, it
Speaker 1: doesn't work, you expect. The only time it can work
Speaker 1: is if you are a Deacon Batista looking motherfucker. Daniel
Speaker 1: Garcia is just a really in shaped tone guy, and
Speaker 1: that's fine, but you can't be wearing Jim short And
Speaker 1: that was always knocking Punk, right. But Punk had this
Speaker 1: huge personality, the bleach plumb like, he had a fucking
Speaker 1: look to him, where Daniel Garcia is the like white
Speaker 1: meat heel like pretty much.
Speaker 3: You know, when Punk started off with the Jim shorts,
Speaker 3: it was more he looked like, I'm the guy who
Speaker 3: is just here to wrestle, Like I can't afford all
Speaker 3: the fancy gear, the Tyson things like that.
Speaker 2: This is what I got.
Speaker 3: I got some fucking Jim shorts and some cheap ass
Speaker 3: elbow pass.
Speaker 1: Which back then I do not like in those shorts,
Speaker 1: I do not It just does not work for me.
Speaker 1: I've never made a call with those shorts like it
Speaker 1: just it looks. It looks like at any point in
Speaker 1: the middle of the match, if you're about to lose,
Speaker 1: like you just fucking pants you and then roll you
Speaker 1: off like and I would do that as a heel.
Speaker 1: But uh so I like that. I like that dynamic.
Speaker 1: I'm fine what they're doing with the riders. I just
Speaker 1: don't need dark. I just worry Darby Mos is gonna
Speaker 1: go on for like three to six more months, like
Speaker 1: four a lot longer, you know, Like Darby's gonna climb
Speaker 1: out Everes again and they're gonna kill them, you know.
Speaker 1: So let's see we go back to the four way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because we're talking about that this and this is the
Speaker 1: thing where it took down points for me too as
Speaker 1: far as half with the win. Just weird decision where
Speaker 1: they do the four way. So it's just Tony Tecla,
Speaker 1: Jamie Hayne or Chris Statlander. Chris Statlander gets the win
Speaker 1: really at nowhere I thought, yeah, the match was just
Speaker 1: kind of fine, just like something was off, maybe the
Speaker 1: I don't know if they got I don't. I doubt
Speaker 1: in aw at her time cut, but it felt like
Speaker 1: it felt like a match where it's like, hey, you
Speaker 1: guys had twenty, you got fifteen, soorry like and that
Speaker 1: happens all the time, right, but I doubt that happen.
Speaker 1: It just I'm all we talked about this. I think
Speaker 1: on the prediction, I think we're all down for Tony
Speaker 1: losing here. But to do the classic, well, she didn't
Speaker 1: get pinned, and that's the story, to have her be
Speaker 1: the one get pinned. I'm least they are turning Tony
Speaker 1: back to like the old school Hollywood Tony storm where
Speaker 1: she turns heel and she goes nuts. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: like half Statland or get that in a one on
Speaker 1: one then you know, like I did not like that.
Speaker 1: We went through Monett through Athena and it's just this
Speaker 1: like quick like bridge pin and that gets her. So
Speaker 1: I like sneak pins. Don't get me wrong, but for
Speaker 1: Statlander finally to win her first ever aw World title
Speaker 1: this way felt very anti climentic, like this could have
Speaker 1: been a moment. This could have been like a you know,
Speaker 1: Top ten women's aw moment, but just kind of out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. So I love stat Landard's great that she
Speaker 1: has a title, maybe she has a contract coming up
Speaker 1: to and Tony knows that the Fed's gonna be after
Speaker 1: because I've said before that Statlander hater should go.
Speaker 5: Outside of Eddie and bake Bill. This was the shortest match.
Speaker 2: Again, it was super Shorty. It was under ten minutes,
Speaker 2: wasn't it.
Speaker 5: I got the seconds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Mone and Rio got sixteen. Come on there.
Speaker 2: It felt short.
Speaker 3: And this is one of those that I would have
Speaker 3: augmented just a little bit. And the fact that if
Speaker 3: you are going to have her pin Tony Storm and
Speaker 3: be the new champion, that should be a one on
Speaker 3: one crowning match. The only reason to do the fatal
Speaker 3: four way is to have either someone else take the
Speaker 3: pen or you know, to take her out of the
Speaker 3: equation altogether. And then Tony continued to be who she is.
Speaker 3: But if you're just gonna do hey, this is stat
Speaker 3: Lander's crowning achievement, you did not. And the other participants,
Speaker 3: as much as I like one and a half of
Speaker 3: the other participants, It was not not something that needed
Speaker 3: to needed to happen there. You could have just done
Speaker 3: a one on one. You didn't need all four and yeah,
Speaker 3: just just have them go Like I like Jamie Hater,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't.
Speaker 2: This wasn't really a match for her, yea was there.
Speaker 1: The weird thing with Hater is they've never played this
Speaker 1: up at all. When Hater got injured, they did the
Speaker 1: storyline where what the hell was riot and page what
Speaker 1: were they again?
Speaker 5: The outside the outcast something?
Speaker 1: So they did the storyline where they beat Jimmy Hayter
Speaker 1: up backstage, so that Tony Storm when there hit a
Speaker 1: couple of storm zeros and beat her right, it was
Speaker 1: injury thing where Hayter still accept the match. To me,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you had to make Hater full heal,
Speaker 1: but the story is there that, hey, it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: you're a baby face now. A long time ago, you
Speaker 1: fucked me over like I you had to cheat to
Speaker 1: beat me, and I never really lost that title clean.
Speaker 1: They've either mentioned it or just great like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know back and it's like, no, that should be
Speaker 1: a moment where it's like I don't care if the
Speaker 1: crowd loves you. You fucked me over like everyone and
Speaker 1: I like that. I think they could have done more
Speaker 1: at that. But that's where it's like Hater did have
Speaker 1: the urgency to be in this match, they just didn't
Speaker 1: give it to her. They didn't explain that storyline that
Speaker 1: and to me, that's I thought what they were gonna go.
Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna flip Hater back to heel
Speaker 1: because she would lose this and would be like fuck
Speaker 1: this person, like they keep they keep making me lose
Speaker 1: and I should never lost. But it's just Statlander. And
Speaker 1: what bugs me about Statlander is they did the same
Speaker 1: thing with her and Jade, where Jade I can't remember
Speaker 1: David who she versed, but it was a pay per
Speaker 1: view and Jade was like the longest reign TVST champion.
Speaker 1: She had a match and then after she's like, if
Speaker 1: anybody else back there in the wear like the warehouse,
Speaker 1: the longer room things they could beat me, step up,
Speaker 1: and Chris Lander came out, hit a couple moves and
Speaker 1: finish her and beat her. So they did like a
Speaker 1: cash in and it was like why and it would
Speaker 1: like to protect Jade, but then guess what happened with
Speaker 1: Jade she came back, she wrestled Chris Statlander, and then
Speaker 1: she fucking left, so you didn't have to protect her
Speaker 1: at all. So it's like two times with Statlander when
Speaker 1: she's had her big moments, it's like, it's weird she
Speaker 1: doesn't have like that moment like that, like hanging at
Speaker 1: it all in like wow, she finally did it. Like
Speaker 1: it's just super super odd, even though I like Statlander, right,
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I really don't know. And we've
Speaker 1: bitched about this before. I wish they just kept Statlander
Speaker 1: heal them the heel winning this way. It would have
Speaker 1: worked if she would have grabbed the tights or something,
Speaker 1: because they had something cooking with Statlander as a heel.
Speaker 1: She beat Will Niney on that like whatever weapons match,
Speaker 1: and she was she was really working and then like yeah,
Speaker 1: she's a bay face again. It's just whoever is booking?
Speaker 5: And see I.
Speaker 4: Think that that Chris or the Chris and Jade and
Speaker 4: the Tony and Jamie like angles were on the same show,
Speaker 4: because I just really that's because it's double double or nothing.
Speaker 2: Who did you?
Speaker 4: Twenty three she fought Ti a valkyrie. No, they're literally
Speaker 4: there one there, one, there one match apart, like it
Speaker 4: says Tony Ruby, soho uh, and Soriah defeats Jamie Hayter
Speaker 4: in three minutes for the title. Then there's a House
Speaker 4: of Black Trios match. Oh that's the one where where
Speaker 4: Max Caster said a Buddies being cooked by Dominic And
Speaker 4: then after that, yeah, and then after that you have
Speaker 4: Jade defeats Taia and then Chris defeats Jade in.
Speaker 1: Fifty seconds pay per view.
Speaker 4: This is like the infamously bad like this one has,
Speaker 4: like the Adam Cole versus Jericho match.
Speaker 5: Else four Pillars match.
Speaker 1: I like that match. I'm a defender.
Speaker 4: That the anarchy and the Yeah match, I'm actually defender
Speaker 4: of the Pillars.
Speaker 1: I I enjoyed the Pillars match, and it's MGF kind
Speaker 1: of being like a comedy champion. But I'll defend that.
Speaker 4: Those those like angles were on literally the same show,
Speaker 4: like one match apart.
Speaker 1: So yeah, again, that always just has to be one
Speaker 1: of aw's weakest thing, right. They got a lot of talent,
Speaker 1: but the women they have an issue with booking sometimes.
Speaker 1: But we'll go back.
Speaker 4: So what do you think this is this important announcement
Speaker 4: from Tony Kahan.
Speaker 5: Because some of the speculation.
Speaker 4: I've seen it's like either like the women's tag titles
Speaker 4: or they're announcing like a women's Continental.
Speaker 1: Class give me the CC for sure. I've also seen
Speaker 1: people talking about being a men's tag SEC, which I
Speaker 1: don't want, but people just talk about because there's so
Speaker 1: many men's tag team right now.
Speaker 4: Also, the same people like Tony like announces like that,
Speaker 4: like Revolution twenty twenty seven, like the counter Show for
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: He talked about, Oh yeah, Tony doesn't always have a good.
Speaker 4: Track record with announced sinse was like tickets were all in,
Speaker 4: are on sale, and it was just like a backstage segment.
Speaker 1: It's tough because he did stop doing them, so I
Speaker 1: think they realized, hey, this isn't People are getting too
Speaker 1: hype for what they think.
Speaker 2: So he hasn't, especially after the Christian Cage thing.
Speaker 3: Now that that ended up working out pretty well, but
Speaker 3: at the time, so he hyped that we've got this
Speaker 3: new signing.
Speaker 2: It is a Hall of Famer. He's gonna change.
Speaker 3: Quality because he's all it's the biggest thing, like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's like we've got someone we're bringing him in.
Speaker 1: And this was before the punk he came back. Lot
Speaker 1: of people were.
Speaker 2: And everyone was like, who could it be?
Speaker 3: Future Hall of Famer feature, this all these great things,
Speaker 3: and then it it's Christian Case and he comes out,
Speaker 3: he looks, he does the he signs his contract, and
Speaker 3: then he.
Speaker 1: Walks right back to the was in the minority as
Speaker 1: I'm a massive vegan Christian fan. I was fucking hype,
Speaker 1: but yeah, Twitter did not share my sentiment. I was
Speaker 1: like just Christian. But like they said, it end up
Speaker 1: working out because Christian Case became one of their best
Speaker 1: heel characters of all time for that.
Speaker 3: But it was weeks of We've got this future Hall
Speaker 3: of Famer coming, it's gonna change everything about And it
Speaker 3: was around the time that the elite were like starting
Speaker 3: to get into their heel stuff and Kenny was getting
Speaker 3: into his heels stuff and he's like, we've got someone
Speaker 3: who's gonna come in and he's gonna turn aw round
Speaker 3: and bubb blah and yeah, the.
Speaker 4: Like the John Morrison a W debut because like the
Speaker 4: Titan sewn pops on it says like Johnny elite and
Speaker 4: even the AW account tweeted like Johnny Gargano.
Speaker 1: Is, Yeah, that was that was brutal. That was brutal
Speaker 1: all over because it was Gargano, which you could argue
Speaker 1: maybe should have made the jump, and brutal because like
Speaker 1: anytime John Morrison's on my screen, I turned the channeled off.
Speaker 1: Most one of overweight wrestler of all time, top five
Speaker 1: over a wrestler of all time. I remember when this
Speaker 1: fucking guy was John Morris and Pele were saying, he's
Speaker 1: a next Shawn Michaels. Give me a break, man. This
Speaker 1: guy he can flip, that's what he can do. He flipped,
Speaker 1: and he has great apps. He has fantastic.
Speaker 3: Definition of a spot monkey. They talk about like the
Speaker 3: young fucks and things like that.
Speaker 2: No, he is.
Speaker 3: He's there for the spots, He's there for the moment
Speaker 3: outside of that. Like I've never thought, man, this is
Speaker 3: a legitimate contender.
Speaker 1: I mean, two thousand and nine to twenty eleven, people
Speaker 1: are pushing this guy like he's the fucking next Messiah.
Speaker 1: I never understood it. I just never never got it.
Speaker 1: Just oh yeah, but yeah. Back to Afley mentioned Christian cage.
Speaker 1: There you had a Christian cage and Cope, I don't
Speaker 1: know what the hell they're called themselves. It's Christian Edge
Speaker 1: Christian FTR and I said this last gimmick and I'm
Speaker 1: happy was this an Ald timer? No, this reminded me
Speaker 1: of the Mixed Tag where they did some wrestling, but
Speaker 1: then the back half's just a lot of fun spots,
Speaker 1: counters Beth stokely and funny, the same thing. Like near
Speaker 1: the end they started doing like spots with the announced
Speaker 1: table this like it was here really similar what was
Speaker 1: going on? But to me, I said, all I need
Speaker 1: this to be is like a four out of five
Speaker 1: and Edge is not completely washed. And guess what, my friends,
Speaker 1: Edge is not completely washed. Now he should probably stay
Speaker 1: in the tag division. I said, there's a couple like
Speaker 1: Omega Swerve mgff. There's a few more singles, but to me,
Speaker 1: you can do like a fun semi moment cinematic match
Speaker 1: there they there's a good time and I was actually
Speaker 1: kind of happy. Sounds bad, but I was happy when
Speaker 1: they all drove Beth because like I think, I'm down
Speaker 1: for them to do a couple like a series of
Speaker 1: these with different STIPs and everything. So I enjoyed this
Speaker 1: a lot as a great opener and I I had
Speaker 1: lots of fun with this. I'm happy he was because
Speaker 1: I were there. It could have been Moxley like there's
Speaker 1: a world where this is a two yeah, because people
Speaker 1: were talking about Ed was like no, no, no, he's still
Speaker 1: He's still the one.
Speaker 5: Who was like yeahs and Adam.
Speaker 1: That was that was probably next to Omega my most
Speaker 1: anticipated EDGE match, because he killed it with Roman, he
Speaker 1: killed it with Seth and I'm like, oh, I wish
Speaker 1: he met Max like two years earlier, like when Max wasn't.
Speaker 4: Like like like now, yeah exactly, like just the wrong time.
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll run it back with the Edge and Christian
Speaker 1: versus the Death Writers. But no, this was just like
Speaker 1: a fun oprah. That's all. It wasn't That's what I
Speaker 1: need to be in. I do hope that Beth is
Speaker 1: actually signed. I don't think she is, but i'd like
Speaker 1: to see her wrestle like a couple people. But uh,
Speaker 1: we didn't even get her versus Ria one on one,
Speaker 1: so I don't even know if she's that interest in
Speaker 1: doing much wrestling other than the odd you know, mixed
Speaker 1: tag here and there.
Speaker 3: So yeah, the appearances or you know, coming in and
Speaker 3: helping out a little bit is all I really see
Speaker 3: her doing. I I will say that FCR were the
Speaker 3: perfect opponents for this returning as in Christian because they
Speaker 3: have the old school wrestling feel when the match needs
Speaker 3: to slow down, they could do it and it would work. Okay,
Speaker 3: we're gonna get into the technical aspect of it. Like
Speaker 3: they were separating Christian from getting back to the corner
Speaker 3: and they were using old school just tag team to.
Speaker 1: Lose eight nineties type of rep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that that worked because a those
Speaker 3: you're slowing down with the moves and the time between moves,
Speaker 3: so that's giving Edge time to catch his breath, I
Speaker 3: mean Christian time to catch his breath. And then once
Speaker 3: they do get the tag and things like that, Edge
Speaker 3: comes in, he comes in hot before again they FGR
Speaker 3: takes back control and it's given now Christian time to
Speaker 3: be on the outside catch his breath, and it never
Speaker 3: looks like there is a break in the action because
Speaker 3: this is how these moves work. This is how these
Speaker 3: mechanics work for these guys. So yeah, they were the
Speaker 3: perfect him back in. I will say, out of everything,
Speaker 3: you've got people singing Copeland's theme song, you got all
Speaker 3: these moments, but the crowd chanting no host to Stokely
Speaker 3: and that he's our father to Christian.
Speaker 1: Yes, sure did they already make a Christian father shirt?
Speaker 1: If not, they should have at this point.
Speaker 3: I am just the fact that even as the baby
Speaker 3: face of this, his heel tactics or his smug asshole
Speaker 3: nature is still getting over it is just great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't talk about it. We talked about a
Speaker 1: little bit, but I've they talked about in some interview
Speaker 1: where they thought that was a fun dynamic. And I
Speaker 1: actually like that Christian is just still fucking screw your dad, Christian,
Speaker 1: like because that's what we always said, like it would
Speaker 1: feel very odd for him to be like.
Speaker 2: Vitu, And yeah, it just didn't.
Speaker 1: It didn't work because the way they set up the story,
Speaker 1: like Christian was a piece of shit with his state,
Speaker 1: like there's no way you can redeem the this guy
Speaker 1: was like making jokes about this guy's dad and banging
Speaker 1: his mom, Like, hey, I fucked like that. You can't
Speaker 1: you can't, Like, I don't know. It's just so I'm
Speaker 1: happy they've done this. And uh, and I think you
Speaker 1: might get a little bit more babyface now that they
Speaker 1: beat down Beth. I could see a little bit that dropping.
Speaker 1: But that makes sense storyline wise now, right, because like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know you put your hands on my best friend's wife, Like,
Speaker 1: you can't do that, even though Joe Christian said he
Speaker 1: would like sleep with that. It's like this is like
Speaker 1: a different level right where it's like, yeah, I was
Speaker 1: just making jokes, but you you actually heard her.
Speaker 3: So I got a you know, so yeah, I put
Speaker 3: the T shirt in uh our gimmick.
Speaker 2: Group chat of the Christian is my Father t shirt?
Speaker 1: Terrible shirt though, like I would never buy that, but
Speaker 1: like I'm glad that.
Speaker 4: There's a there's a Nick Queen's Mom shirt out there too.
Speaker 1: The god Any thoughts about the mat chress bubs.
Speaker 4: Uh No, I thought it was a fun time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I definitely got the crowd hyped and I enjoyed. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they're definitely gonna gonna run it back, and yeah, I
Speaker 4: worked well because because I just said, like he this
Speaker 4: was obviously teaming with FTR and having a match against
Speaker 4: them was something he wanted to like and when he
Speaker 4: was in WW that was like one of the things
Speaker 4: he wanted to do.
Speaker 1: So all those old timers, they were like offestly because
Speaker 1: they're all time, but all those guys really like FTR,
Speaker 1: Like Orton was a big fan because I don't know
Speaker 1: if you saw they were before FDR didn't sign, they
Speaker 1: were running with like an ordon FTR group and they're
Speaker 1: like a faction for like I think like three to
Speaker 1: four weeks and then they didn't resign. But like even
Speaker 1: Punk right, Punk's good friends with them, Like you know.
Speaker 4: The story I heard on did you watch the that
Speaker 4: Tokyo tape video.
Speaker 1: That no I haven't, Actually no, I watched.
Speaker 4: An FTR were talking about specifically the reason how they
Speaker 4: got their releases actually because of FTR ftr KO because
Speaker 4: basically they they caught like I forget like some other
Speaker 4: wrestler in Wa told them, like you know, like a
Speaker 4: lot of your copyrights are like not copyright, like you
Speaker 4: can just copyright these yourself before he does. And so
Speaker 4: they got a bunch of copyrights relating to like Randy
Speaker 4: or in an FTR type stuff, and they're like, we're
Speaker 4: not gonna give them back unless you give us our release.
Speaker 4: So they're like, fine, well, like you like, we'll give
Speaker 4: you FTR KO and like all this other stuff if
Speaker 4: you give us a release and we keep FDR o.
Speaker 1: Ces and that makes sense.
Speaker 4: And they got no not compete like they said, they
Speaker 4: could have shown up on Dynamite like the week of
Speaker 4: but I think the week they got released was like
Speaker 4: the week they got the release like themselves was like
Speaker 4: the week of COVID stuff. They could have shown up
Speaker 4: like if they wanted to, but they decided to like
Speaker 4: take two weeks off or something like that, and just
Speaker 4: then was when COVID hit.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it was a fun little team. But yeah,
Speaker 1: because that was the time that Randy Warton was also
Speaker 1: free agent, and then the rumor was that he was
Speaker 1: using Tony Kahan to get the price of and then
Speaker 1: Tony exposed that on Twitter and then they gotten a
Speaker 1: whole argument, and yeah, it was It was a whole
Speaker 1: moment where Tony and Randy On are tweeting back and
Speaker 1: forth at each other, just dropping bombs on each other.
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I think Randy made the right choice.
Speaker 1: I don't think a W is the don't be wrong.
Speaker 1: There's some great bangers he would have had in a W,
Speaker 1: but I think, uh, I think people would have turned
Speaker 1: on And then yes, yeah, I agree, it would have
Speaker 1: been like a short, two young, two year contract and
Speaker 1: you know, I.
Speaker 5: Don't know what he would have been doing, Like who
Speaker 5: do you have been?
Speaker 3: Like Cody Randy would have popped his shoulder back out
Speaker 3: of place and stayed home.
Speaker 1: They would have ran that. They would have done Cody
Speaker 1: and Randy app for sure for like the T and
Speaker 1: T title, they would have done that. And actually at
Speaker 1: that point was Kenny heal Champ in COVID, I think,
Speaker 1: so that's it.
Speaker 3: It was during COVID that ever, it was during the
Speaker 3: backend of COVID that everything really popped off with him
Speaker 3: being killed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me let me find out because like that
Speaker 1: right there.
Speaker 3: Because that was also during the time that the whole
Speaker 3: h impact stuff happened as well.
Speaker 1: So it ended in two thousand no, so yeah, it
Speaker 1: was near them, but it ended in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: So right, we were just talking about COVID in December
Speaker 1: to twenty one, so you know, you would have got
Speaker 1: a Revolution poster with fucking Kenny Omega inside and RANI
Speaker 1: on once I they for sure it ran in Kenny's
Speaker 1: title run. Absolutely, they would have done Randy and Kenny
Speaker 1: and whatnot, and that would have paid. That would have bang.
Speaker 1: And that's what I love too that happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish because pre COVID n Yeah, pre COVID,
Speaker 3: Kenny was losing to Jericho and then going going.
Speaker 1: To the Bucks and him jobbed, and that I agreed
Speaker 1: with and other people that for the first couple of
Speaker 1: years of aw A subs like anytime the Bucks and
Speaker 1: Kenny would job in big matches, they would and they
Speaker 1: lost a lot, and it was like, dude, you guys,
Speaker 1: can't you guys gotta stop. Like Kenny lost, ye, he
Speaker 1: lost Jericho pak and mad like he's losing everything. It
Speaker 1: was like, what do you do? Like the Bucks lost
Speaker 1: to the Private Party in the first take team tournament
Speaker 1: and I was fine that at the time, but then
Speaker 1: they kept losing, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and then he ended up going on the
Speaker 3: tag team run with Hangman for a while.
Speaker 1: Which, yeah, that really helped big time because that was
Speaker 1: a big moment for then. That Bucks match was big.
Speaker 1: But I think it's just because even Cody, right, he
Speaker 1: did that match with Jericho that if I lose, I
Speaker 1: can't challenge for the title. I think they were just
Speaker 1: all super scared of being the EVPs and everyone fucking
Speaker 1: hating them by like year on top. But business has
Speaker 1: shown from the seventies to the nineties even now, so
Speaker 1: it's like that was usually the smartest thing was like
Speaker 1: when Dusty was booking, why was he the champ because
Speaker 1: he knew he was gonna show up. He knew he
Speaker 1: was a draw, and he knew he didn't have to
Speaker 1: worry about being like holding himself up. So like that
Speaker 1: was a mistake. Cody did too. Cody was white hot
Speaker 1: in AW and they should have never done that for
Speaker 1: and Cody said that was his idea. That was a mistake.
Speaker 1: They should have never tooken the title opportunity way because yeah.
Speaker 3: They looked more at it like the Vince Russo or
Speaker 3: Jeff Jarrett's style of booking, where I'm the bookers from
Speaker 3: the champion too.
Speaker 1: Right, you know the booker. That was the whole thing
Speaker 1: of look at Triple H.
Speaker 2: He's damn Nash and Hull Cogan all that other stuff.
Speaker 3: Like I get you not wanted to get to be
Speaker 3: known in that instance, but man, you're Kenny frickin' Omega.
Speaker 3: For you to be the inaugural AW champion, no one
Speaker 3: would have batted an I. You had been tearing it up.
Speaker 3: It's not like you guys were just some random upstarts.
Speaker 3: You have been tearing it up in Japan for years.
Speaker 3: You were a legitimate contender. No one would have batted
Speaker 3: an I if that was the case.
Speaker 2: This is how you plant your flag.
Speaker 1: We got number thirty entrom the Rumble Jerich was your
Speaker 1: first ever aw champions We got that coming up. Oh
Speaker 1: let's see next. We had I have not much say
Speaker 1: a Kingston, Big Bill a mess, a big mess. Big
Speaker 1: Bill was not ready for the spot. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it's all in big Bill kinks. And there was
Speaker 1: times where like that fallaway slam they kept going for
Speaker 1: is like stop, like they did it twice and it's
Speaker 1: like either big billion or strong enough or Eddie's non
Speaker 1: shape enough. It was this felt like a match if
Speaker 1: I was watching, These guys aren't even ready to be
Speaker 1: on the main roster. Everyone has a bad day of
Speaker 1: the office, right but and man, the fish.
Speaker 3: Completely, he completely, I don't care what he missed, like
Speaker 3: oh he got a little bit of the chin, you
Speaker 3: know he missed.
Speaker 1: He right, he's doing his best thing. Because that was
Speaker 1: the end. Like what should have happened is Big Bill
Speaker 1: should have kicked out and someone should have said do
Speaker 1: it again, like hit me again? Like it was for
Speaker 1: all around. How they brought Eddie Kingston back. This was
Speaker 1: It's not like, oh my god, all Timer, but it's
Speaker 1: just like, yes, super underwhelming, Like they should have just
Speaker 1: had him fucking in the Moxie match helped Darby do something.
Speaker 1: Get a pop there, like the fact that it's there's
Speaker 1: this Bill up, big Bill out of all people call
Speaker 1: him out, the match is bad, and then him and
Speaker 1: Hook come out together as a team. Hooks get no reactions.
Speaker 1: We don't need this guy. A couple of years ago
Speaker 1: was versing some Ojoe. You watched that match. That crowd
Speaker 1: was hot. People were wanting Hook to beat some Ojo
Speaker 1: for the a W World Championship. This guy gets crickets
Speaker 1: now from everything that's happened, the theme, how they've booked him,
Speaker 1: and now it's like Eddie's the mentor, Like this whole
Speaker 1: second match, bad stuff going on. Oh yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: spider Man MS. It's like, why is it always some
Speaker 1: adult watching Peter Parker.
Speaker 3: You know, it made sense when he was a part
Speaker 3: of Team Task that made sense, But then anything after that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're always under the wing of someone and it's just
Speaker 3: it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: I will see this.
Speaker 5: I'll hook in the ups.
Speaker 3: Outside of this match, I will say for the show
Speaker 3: as a whole, because talk about this match made me
Speaker 3: think about this. Daniel Bryant on commentary is absolutely amazing
Speaker 3: from a peer, not only from a This is why
Speaker 3: these moves make sense, This is why wrestler A is
Speaker 3: doing this, or this is the what's in their mind
Speaker 3: and things like that, But just from the way that
Speaker 3: he would get animated about some moves, the way he would,
Speaker 3: you know, explain various things. He's like, that took my
Speaker 3: breathway he's like, or that made me think about when
Speaker 3: this happened to me, and you know, I was having
Speaker 3: a stinger down my neck for the next three days.
Speaker 3: Like those those tidbits put such legitimate c on a
Speaker 3: lot of these matches.
Speaker 2: This match, not so much because.
Speaker 3: It sucked, but like literally this was a one and
Speaker 3: a half star match, even.
Speaker 1: Though the botch though with him calling that that's a
Speaker 1: smart thing to be like, oh no, I think he
Speaker 1: hit him right on the chickens, like Tony should never
Speaker 1: just said he missed, Like I was like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck you doing, Tony, Like don't like come on now,
Speaker 1: but no. And the good thing is Brian he can
Speaker 1: be entertaining too, Like it's hyperbolic. But if Brian gets
Speaker 1: a long run, he could be a top three or commentary.
Speaker 1: He just has everything he his and we all knew
Speaker 1: that because remember he did the cruiseweight classic back in
Speaker 1: the day. Who did he do that with? Who's on
Speaker 1: the booth with him?
Speaker 5: I think it was like like Marrow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah that makes sense. It could have been
Speaker 1: Nigel too, Yeah it could have been, but he was great.
Speaker 1: Then he just gets a perfect sense. He's respected, so
Speaker 1: people like believe what he's saying. So yeah, no, he's
Speaker 1: he's a delight. I'm surprised he's full time. I thought
Speaker 1: he's gonna take full time pe like PPVs. But the
Speaker 1: fact he's full time, full time is nuts. And I
Speaker 1: I do love any time, like we didn't talk about
Speaker 1: like in the Moxie match and he like fucking like
Speaker 1: gives him a bag like it's drugs, Like hey, look
Speaker 1: at this, he like sides and overything goes back to
Speaker 1: doing his jobs. Like That's why I love You can
Speaker 1: constantly have these little moments like yeah, I was ready
Speaker 1: for him. Jeff Bryant too when he was living off
Speaker 1: and they just go Brian, he says, he's so like
Speaker 1: Brian's so good, sound like he's gonna get up and
Speaker 1: start kicking him and that's gonna happen. It's just like
Speaker 1: they did like the whole trope of somebody getting bullied. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at one point he's gonna stand up and.
Speaker 4: You know what Box is gonna like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: like he has like Darby wrapped and like some yeah.
Speaker 1: Or what I've said before. It sounds stupid, but if
Speaker 1: they ever turned the deaf Ris ever turn on Moxley
Speaker 1: and they're destroying him, I could see Brian make this
Speaker 1: say for Maxes like they started to get like, yeah, there,
Speaker 1: there's he's a good person to have there as five
Speaker 1: star classic for you. You're saying, I'm drop kick.
Speaker 5: I don't think I even rated this.
Speaker 4: I was like barely paid, Like I literally looked away
Speaker 4: and like no, Big Bill was down and Edie tops.
Speaker 1: It's like a one point five. In my opinion, this
Speaker 1: was not good.
Speaker 2: This was Yeah, that's where I have it as as
Speaker 2: a one point five.
Speaker 1: I want to see what's ranked on drop Kicker, and
Speaker 1: I don't even know what's on cage match. I'm sure
Speaker 1: on cage matches.
Speaker 3: The highlight of this was Eddie Kingston's shirt on his entrance, like,
Speaker 3: and it was all from there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Age has a four point one four point.
Speaker 1: One, and then drop Kicks is a two point one,
Speaker 1: so it's not like the same. Yeah, yeah, about the same.
Speaker 1: I was trying to see, there is a cup someone
Speaker 1: had to meet. There's one five star on Dropkicks. Someone
Speaker 1: has to be men. That has to be a joke.
Speaker 1: Let's see. Uh Mark brisco versus mgf Uh. This was
Speaker 1: more fun than I thought. I was like, what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do for table tax s? Bubbs, you said perfect
Speaker 1: the discord that for the first half was just a
Speaker 1: body slam challenge, and it was great because you have
Speaker 1: Mark Briscol who's a crazy character and mgf who could
Speaker 1: just sell anything of what the fuck like all this
Speaker 1: stuff like it ended up being really good and kudos
Speaker 1: to these two guys. And because many wrestlers have said,
Speaker 1: like the thumb tag spot fucking just sucks, it's so
Speaker 1: the fact that they did like four to six both
Speaker 1: the thumbag spots. And I love that the ref had
Speaker 1: the goggles and the.
Speaker 3: Yeah Bryce has the welding gloves all padded up, He's
Speaker 3: got the goggles off.
Speaker 1: So this felt like it wasn't a comedy match because
Speaker 1: it did turn, but it felt like it had enough
Speaker 1: is that it was a comedy match kind of done.
Speaker 1: Ryan got dramatic, which they've done before like Brisco. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so no.
Speaker 5: I a wacky yeah, but he can still get serious
Speaker 5: and I.
Speaker 1: Kind of hope they do. Like an MGFF losing streak
Speaker 1: for now because David you brought up you didn't pick
Speaker 1: him because he thought, well, he's not gonna lose twice.
Speaker 4: But even it was like since he lost the title,
Speaker 4: he can now lose to Britain.
Speaker 5: Yeah was my thinking.
Speaker 1: Plus he should get some come up ands for like
Speaker 1: the brother jokes or not the joke, but just saying
Speaker 1: you should die and say your brother and stuff. So
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't mind if MGFF just like because that's
Speaker 1: the best thing is he has that contract. He still
Speaker 1: has a title shot, so he could lose a bunch
Speaker 1: of be like Okay, I'm gonna cash it in and
Speaker 1: I could legitimately see the next time his contracts up,
Speaker 1: them doing like a summer of MGFF of like he's
Speaker 1: gonna hint that he might be out of there, and
Speaker 1: that's where it fits of like next week, I'm challenging
Speaker 1: so and so for that title and if I win,
Speaker 1: I'm taking Like.
Speaker 4: It's like I think they is like up like in
Speaker 4: a week and the night after like a week from yes,
Speaker 4: for the title or something.
Speaker 1: And it would fit because why would Tony call and
Speaker 1: give that guy a title shot?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Well, because he has to because that so I would
Speaker 1: be fine if M Jeff goes a little losing streak
Speaker 1: now you know, and they.
Speaker 5: Just maybe like like off for a while. I mean
Speaker 5: I know, because some stuff. And yeah obviously he's.
Speaker 1: In Violent Night too, right yeah, so and they.
Speaker 5: Just story good type of stuff.
Speaker 1: And I think so yeah, so no fun match for me.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, he has to take us his honeymoon now
Speaker 4: because he showed up religions night after.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see.
Speaker 2: Here is the next one.
Speaker 3: This is the mess that I said demand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one did not to be on here.
Speaker 2: This was to Kahn.
Speaker 1: They like I'm telling you, they do not draw like
Speaker 1: just because people chance we hurt people. No, this is
Speaker 1: pretty show. They must have something. Yeah, they showed that
Speaker 1: the Bucks did start it. You know, like I don't
Speaker 1: like I just I yeah, I'm don't want I was
Speaker 1: liking a couple. I was like, I fought, I legitimately
Speaker 1: finally started to like the m JEF hurt sending and stuff,
Speaker 1: and then they just randomly ended it two weeks after
Speaker 1: I liked the triple threat tags just two tags team
Speaker 1: up there and hurtsnicket, But we're just back to where
Speaker 1: we are. I don't know. This act to me just
Speaker 1: does not justify a pay per view spot. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying get rid of them.
Speaker 4: Just like, looking at the match graphic, I was like,
Speaker 4: this is a zero hour.
Speaker 1: Match, Yes, why is this here? Like good, so shut
Speaker 1: out the win cool.
Speaker 3: I hate, says, but a good friend of mine set
Speaker 3: that they felt like this match was here because Tony
Speaker 3: Kahan is still thinking about the fact that they set
Speaker 3: that Triple h doesn't book black people in his payer
Speaker 3: per reviews, so he booked all his healthy black people
Speaker 3: and the match or give them or give.
Speaker 2: Me put them all in one.
Speaker 7: Match, just give them a stip and like half like
Speaker 7: it's just like, I don't know, just do something more
Speaker 7: creative with the hurt syndica then you know, and enough
Speaker 7: with this, like well damn, you have to think sto
Speaker 7: because they didn't.
Speaker 1: Want to do business with them, fuck the what like
Speaker 1: fuck that like don't want to do business with him?
Speaker 1: You're the booker man. This fun stuff of like get
Speaker 1: him in a room, sit them down, like and like
Speaker 1: what like it has Bobby light lastly threatened his life
Speaker 1: and so like I'm gonna I don't know MVPs Like
Speaker 1: remember I went.
Speaker 2: I went to prison for nine years, so you know, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's I mean, what's happening. I don't know. Uh.
Speaker 1: We talked about mercees Rio already. This match. It ended
Speaker 1: up being good Oca Takesha and Dorada, but I still,
Speaker 1: in principle do not like that they had O caught
Speaker 1: in Takesha to touch before save this for the one
Speaker 1: on one duo caught in Derada do Taqusha Dorada on dynamite.
Speaker 1: This was good, but I just don't you know this,
Speaker 1: This was like a three point five. There are some
Speaker 1: fun spots, Ocada took some actual bumps, but uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I just didn't like. I said the match in concept
Speaker 1: for me, so uh yeah, good enough for me. What
Speaker 1: do you guys.
Speaker 3: Think I would have rather this had been either Takesha
Speaker 3: not in this match or Kada not in this match.
Speaker 3: I could see more of Dorata and takesh To going
Speaker 3: with Okada literally sitting there at ringside like as a
Speaker 3: constant prop of whoever, whoever, when's this gets the shot
Speaker 3: at Okada and there's all as Takeshta is doing moves
Speaker 3: against Dorado, he's looking back at Okada like your next,
Speaker 3: like that they're feeding into these We're on the same team,
Speaker 3: but we're not on this side.
Speaker 2: I want what you have and just having that.
Speaker 3: So they have some back and forth, and then you know,
Speaker 3: Dorota does some things and you see Okada reacting like
Speaker 3: he's got that shitty grin, like hey, if he beats you,
Speaker 3: I don't have to face you, so you better get
Speaker 3: your stuff together, like have.
Speaker 2: Something like that.
Speaker 3: I don't think that they should have faced each other yet. Again,
Speaker 3: just like I said about other match, like save just
Speaker 3: like I said about Christett Lander and Tony Storm, save
Speaker 3: that big match. If you want to have them do this,
Speaker 3: save it for there. The ending was predictable. I'm like,
Speaker 3: all right, cool.
Speaker 2: No one did.
Speaker 1: They're great, are gonna win in the triple and Deront's
Speaker 1: not fucking winning, you know.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, great, workers great.
Speaker 3: Everything that they did in the match was amazing. Just
Speaker 3: the match itself did not make sense, didn't need it
Speaker 3: on this streight review.
Speaker 1: Event Collision, there you go, even Dynamite, you know, like
Speaker 1: have a hey, we're gonna give you a cool three
Speaker 1: point seventy five like fun triple threat match. Okay, sure
Speaker 1: do it on Collision, you know.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Hadn't thought of the idea of just making like a
Speaker 4: number one contenders match, But I think I would have
Speaker 4: liked that a lot, especially if you have a cought
Speaker 4: at ringside with like the you know, like Mercedes Money
Speaker 4: set up with like a steak and wine and stuff.
Speaker 5: Just watching this match.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even him grabbing the headset on the commentary and
Speaker 3: like just go a bitch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, overall I did probably Dorata is like
Speaker 4: really fantastic fin this crazy stuff, and to Keshta, I'm
Speaker 4: a big fan, But yeah, I agree. I do think
Speaker 4: it was sort of like weird to like sort of
Speaker 4: do the match already even though it's not the match
Speaker 4: of Kesha and Okada.
Speaker 5: But maybe it's just because I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, maybe the actual match isn't happening for like a
Speaker 4: long time.
Speaker 1: That's what I think, And that's it's like, well, what's
Speaker 1: the point of all this, then you know, it's just.
Speaker 4: Like we're like, maybe this is like a wrestle dynasty
Speaker 4: match or something, because I think they're doing that again
Speaker 4: this year, right, I.
Speaker 1: Think, so, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: That's like in like three months from now or something.
Speaker 4: But even then, like that's not that long if you
Speaker 4: want to like, but.
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's fine. I just or I were like,
Speaker 1: if a tournament comes up something where they get delayed,
Speaker 1: I guess we have to wait and see what happens
Speaker 1: with Takesha and the g One and Wressell Kingdom.
Speaker 4: And I guess what's the Continental like with the Unified
Speaker 4: title now being like, because I assume the Continental now
Speaker 4: is not as complicated and it's just gonna be like
Speaker 4: a number one contenders, like you win the tournament and
Speaker 4: you get a shot at the title. Because before it
Speaker 4: was like the person with the title was in the
Speaker 4: tournament and if like if they didn't make the finals,
Speaker 4: they like automatically vacated the title, and it was all
Speaker 4: like confusing. So I think now it should be simpler.
Speaker 4: But I assume like Takesha is probably gonna be like
Speaker 4: in the Condinal Classic again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'd be down if they did that, and
Speaker 1: if they make the finals, Okada Takeshta and Takesha gets
Speaker 1: to beat Like they keep saying he's the best tournament
Speaker 1: restler of all time. Right, Well, wouldn't that be a
Speaker 1: fun way for to Cash to get that win. So again,
Speaker 1: I'm down for the vision. It's just like this felt
Speaker 1: like a weird like side quest that we went on
Speaker 1: before the mission.
Speaker 4: It's like a weird like felt more like they want
Speaker 4: to Okada like on the show and they're like, which
Speaker 4: you don't.
Speaker 1: Always need because he's always delivering like ten stuff anymore,
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, let's see after that. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: talked about Dosy maxleyn Now we talked about the four
Speaker 1: way a ladder match. I thought was really fun. The
Speaker 1: ladder match near the end had some spots where like
Speaker 1: Speedball almost shattering his ankles. Man that was that was dangerous.
Speaker 1: But I there was like a five minute portion which
Speaker 1: I enjoy the Rock Triple H one, I enjoy the
Speaker 1: ben Wa Jericho one. I love ladder matches, whether it's
Speaker 1: not spots, it's just people beating each other with the ladders.
Speaker 1: And at the point when Josh Alexander took over and
Speaker 1: it was just a lot of that and I enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: So it's like we kind of had like fast paced
Speaker 1: action and we had like the ladder beat down, and
Speaker 1: then we had like the car crash element. So this
Speaker 1: was like a really fun, enjoyable ladder match. I am
Speaker 1: all on the hype for Brodido, like obviously Ben Dil's
Speaker 1: in a great year, but and Brodie King I've always liked.
Speaker 1: But I like that they won here and that's good.
Speaker 1: I think that they will probably lose those titles to
Speaker 1: FTR I bet, and then that's how you get FTR
Speaker 1: versus Edgie Christian. But no, I thought this was really fun.
Speaker 1: I mean talk about the post match, the thing after.
Speaker 1: But what do you think, David of the ladder match?
Speaker 2: It was a fun match, like they really put on
Speaker 2: a show.
Speaker 3: I I love the young bucks in any type of
Speaker 3: ladder match, so you know that that's always fun to watch.
Speaker 3: Speedball Mike Byley and Kevin Knight never come across to
Speaker 3: me as the contenders for champions, but they also they
Speaker 3: can do the spots. They can be there for various
Speaker 3: things that are just fun. Same thing with Hechestero and
Speaker 3: Josh Alexander, Like they're they're there to to fill up
Speaker 3: this car crash of moments, but yeah, they still all.
Speaker 3: I mean, Josh Alexander is an incredible wrestler, so even
Speaker 3: with that, they were doing some some amazing stuff and
Speaker 3: man bandido is amazing. I really do wish that they
Speaker 3: would remind people more that he is top guy in
Speaker 3: Ring of Honor. But him and Brody King together is
Speaker 3: just that they're fun to watch, and Brodie King throwing
Speaker 3: himself about and the way that he did.
Speaker 2: Some of these bumps for just great.
Speaker 3: And then we get to the ending, which was just
Speaker 3: the aftermatch portion of this was just yay everything.
Speaker 1: Hashtag tras was wrong. I said this in discord. I
Speaker 1: didn't think it would work. Let's see long term how
Speaker 1: it goes. But they've been Jesus Jack Perry thing and
Speaker 1: even in this match, the Young Bucks at one point
Speaker 1: they had the nick ran up for the titles and
Speaker 1: the crowd was cheering, so it's like, okay, Bucks have
Speaker 1: won the crowd back Perry gets there, it's like a pop.
Speaker 1: But I'll give them kudos to to me, it's all
Speaker 1: about the presentation and them doing this video where he
Speaker 1: literally dak Perry like resurrects like Frankenstein's Lucasaurus really fun.
Speaker 5: It's really cool.
Speaker 4: So they played that video already like when Lucasaurs came back,
Speaker 4: but like without Jack, Like it was purposely edited, like
Speaker 4: you would only see like his hands are like the
Speaker 4: hair and stuff. So people were like theorizing it was
Speaker 4: him and like he had the jacket on and stuff.
Speaker 5: But this like the full version.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, I because I thought they
Speaker 1: were gonna put them together and I thought, cause the
Speaker 1: bucks were getting popa, this might be the wrong move.
Speaker 1: But this is where all again comes down to, like presentation.
Speaker 1: Right when we took about like Statlander winning the title,
Speaker 1: like anything could be a big moment or man moment.
Speaker 1: The fact that they they the beatdown's happening, the lights
Speaker 1: go out, the video reveal, Lucasaurus comes in there looking
Speaker 1: he's always he's always been big, but he's big right now.
Speaker 1: They take all the bucks, they hug and then they
Speaker 1: had that theme ray to go. They they nail it
Speaker 1: to me. It is all about the fallow up because
Speaker 1: Jack Perry's kind of like Sammy Givaro. I feel like
Speaker 1: the aw audience has like a very weird relationship with him.
Speaker 1: I like Jack Perry, was he like a little shit
Speaker 1: back in the day of the punk stuff? Sure, but
Speaker 1: like Punk was a little shit too. People like to
Speaker 1: normalize Punk going backstage just like trying to get in fights.
Speaker 1: Like both of them were little shits. They're both like
Speaker 1: having high school drama with each other over glass, Like
Speaker 1: no one was the adult in the room here. So
Speaker 1: that's where it's just like when you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: like Punk was the same way, like he was taking
Speaker 1: the same shots back in the day when he was right.
Speaker 1: If Perry the level of talent with Punk is no,
Speaker 1: he's not. But this could work. It's gonna be interesting
Speaker 1: to see that. I hope he doesn't come out with
Speaker 1: like like no more, like he can't do the lolling
Speaker 1: cloth and like the cheetah print, like he can't do
Speaker 1: jungle Boy, but he has to like Jungle Man. He
Speaker 1: has like to find like a variation of it. But
Speaker 1: I'm I'm interested to see how they do it. And
Speaker 1: I love that. Hey, this is like another tag team
Speaker 1: feud that is has a storyline for not the titles.
Speaker 1: Right you got FTR and Chris Edge and Chrish Right
Speaker 1: now you got this and it worked. But for me,
Speaker 1: it is about the week's fall up of Cake and
Speaker 1: the crowd stay together. Where on the same coin we
Speaker 1: talked about this last episode, what they're doing the Acclaim
Speaker 1: dead on arrival, the whole calling out like, oh, you've
Speaker 1: been floundering, Anthony Bones. It's like you had him lose
Speaker 1: to a couple of people. There's no push there. Max
Speaker 1: Caster is doing thing like they to me, it's just like,
Speaker 1: it's so funny this company where this jungle boy thing.
Speaker 1: This is a bad idea and they do it. It's like, man,
Speaker 1: they above expectations, this Acclaim thing. It's like no one
Speaker 1: wants the claim back to get like that's where again
Speaker 1: it's all fault. But I thought it was a really
Speaker 1: great moment and we'll see. I hope they pulled together
Speaker 1: and they can get over. And I think they both
Speaker 1: need this. Lucasaurus needs this and Jack Perry definitely he
Speaker 1: needs some good will. But they tried to Like this
Speaker 1: reminds me of Sammy Gavarro when they had him turned
Speaker 1: on Jericho. Andon's like, oh, this could be the the moment,
Speaker 1: but then like three months later, one's like, I still
Speaker 1: fucking hate Szamon Gavar. So it's like, was this just
Speaker 1: for the moment or people back on the Jack Perry page.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know with the LF I on right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do nothing, just waiting for his contract to
Speaker 1: come up.
Speaker 5: And I don't even I don't think.
Speaker 1: Like to me, Samy Govarro is like end up in
Speaker 1: TEENA in my opinion, I don't think that's gonna go
Speaker 1: after him.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, could be wrong. I mean, they
Speaker 1: want some of a job on NXT, but uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see and then yeah.
Speaker 4: We had that.
Speaker 1: Paige Kyle Fletcher, can you talk a little about the
Speaker 1: beginning anything more on this match? Oh?
Speaker 2: Like I said, they did great with this match. I mean.
Speaker 3: From the moment that they immediately locked up, just the
Speaker 3: way that they work together. These two worked seamlessly. I
Speaker 3: was kind of concerned because while Hangman is a lot
Speaker 3: lighter on his feet, he does work a more heavier
Speaker 3: style and has been especially since some of more of
Speaker 3: his opponents lightly. At no point did Fletcher seem just
Speaker 3: out of his element with this, And to me, this
Speaker 3: was the opposite of the brock Lessener John Cena match,
Speaker 3: where you've got this quick, let's boom, conflicting styles.
Speaker 2: We're going to get this over with.
Speaker 3: Where man, they were just having fun with this and
Speaker 3: Fletcher was taking some bumps that scared me at points,
Speaker 3: but also he was hitting some high flying moves and
Speaker 3: man Daniel Brian on commentary during this thing, the excitement
Speaker 3: that he showed, the crowd popping for the near falls,
Speaker 3: everything else, it's and it feels like Hangman walked away
Speaker 3: from this feeling like he is strongest champion, and Kyle
Speaker 3: Fletcher looked like, okay, even though he takes his loss,
Speaker 3: like we were talking earlier about having, you know, two
Speaker 3: people who take loss, but it's okay.
Speaker 2: He took this loss.
Speaker 3: He can go back to doing everything that he's doing
Speaker 3: in the TNC Championship and it not miss a beat,
Speaker 3: not be oh, well, you lost against hang Man so
Speaker 3: you shouldn't be champion. No, he's still again great. But
Speaker 3: that avalanche dead eye from the middle turn buckle and
Speaker 3: the way that Fletcher hit I was I was like,
Speaker 3: oh man, please be okay, Please be okay.
Speaker 2: Folded in a half, but please be okay.
Speaker 1: They gotta get him some wins now though, because like
Speaker 1: he did lose his champion right, and I'm with you,
Speaker 1: where never a fan of that, so we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: But no, really great match they delivered. Fletcher is the
Speaker 1: real He's the real deal. I think we talked about
Speaker 1: his last episode or a couple of times, but Tony
Speaker 1: was very smart to make sure he re signed him
Speaker 1: right away because I said this before. If he was
Speaker 1: free agent, WW would have fucking gobbled that kid up,
Speaker 1: and I think I pushed him well. I don't even
Speaker 1: think it's a bad thing. I think they would have
Speaker 1: he very much. I think Miles was Born is probably
Speaker 1: pretty lucky that they didn't sign him because he's almost
Speaker 1: like the better version of that because like Kyle flesher Man,
Speaker 1: he did the whole thing where he like he shaved
Speaker 1: his head and the shape he's in, his phenomenal, how
Speaker 1: toned he is everything this show that he can hang.
Speaker 1: I think the only problem with this match was other
Speaker 1: than one spot with that counter, it no one believe
Speaker 1: Kyle's won this match right like that wasn't gonna happen,
Speaker 1: So I think it was fun for the good rookie upstart,
Speaker 1: so they had to make sure, Hey, let's go have
Speaker 1: an amazing to me, this is like a four point
Speaker 1: five match where let's have an amazing match where the
Speaker 1: drama's not out there. We don't have weapons, we don't
Speaker 1: have a big stipulation, but let's just go out there
Speaker 1: and wrestle. And you know, they say we're the best wrestle, right,
Speaker 1: So that's what you got to do. And I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised Hangman won on last So yeah, Kyle, I
Speaker 1: think in the next two years will be champ. He's
Speaker 1: gonna carry that whether he defends against Austprey or beats Osprey,
Speaker 1: like I think it's one of those two. But no,
Speaker 1: Kyle did a phenomenal job hang Man. You know, that's
Speaker 1: my next Omega, that's my guy in aw. I love
Speaker 1: this character. But with that being said, I do think
Speaker 1: now it's gonna be interesting where he beat Moksley and
Speaker 1: then the next story was like, oh, I beat up
Speaker 1: and comer. I'm very curious what they're gonna do with
Speaker 1: him because I think with that happened with the first
Speaker 1: Hangman title run, where the first few months they had
Speaker 1: a lot of great story stuff for him, and then
Speaker 1: the middle stuff was just kind of like Challenger the
Speaker 1: month and then the punk stuff. Obviously a lot of
Speaker 1: bad stuff happened, but the actual story was good, So
Speaker 1: I just want them consistent. So I think they need
Speaker 1: to find obviously won't be swerved, but they need to
Speaker 1: find like a next swerve, and they need to find
Speaker 1: like another like rival, because like I didn't like Kyle Fletcher,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like a blood feud, right, Like, I
Speaker 1: think they need to find something that Adam Paige can do,
Speaker 1: like those very fiery, passionate promos that he's great at.
Speaker 1: So I'll be curious what they do next. Is next
Speaker 1: his rest dream?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: And that's kind of like a weird like sometimes it's
Speaker 1: a crossover show. Sometimes it's not. Like it's kind of
Speaker 1: like The Forbid Doors. So I'm not sure if he
Speaker 1: wrestles someone from New Japan, I don't know what the
Speaker 1: state is. I don't know who. That's the one bad
Speaker 1: thing though. It kind of feels like it's similar to
Speaker 1: money where with hanging and I'm wondering who is next
Speaker 1: up to line? You know, Like I just don't I
Speaker 1: don't see.
Speaker 4: A six year anniversary dynamite that I'm gonna be at.
Speaker 5: But they usually have like some big truth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, it could. It could happen. I'm just
Speaker 1: wondering who the next guy up in the line is
Speaker 1: for him. Obviously it's not Warlow because there's conflicting things there.
Speaker 1: Shout to Warlow. I'm not the biggest Warlow family. We
Speaker 1: didn't know that last episode that like man came back
Speaker 1: towards peck On returned that heartbreaking man that.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's horrible timing this guy.
Speaker 1: Between all the way back to the MGF stuff to now,
Speaker 1: he does have some of the worst luck in like
Speaker 1: wrestling history as far as multiple like big push just
Speaker 1: like getting capped at the needs for some reason. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I really don't know who. I don't know on the
Speaker 1: horizon right now with aw but hopefully they uh they
Speaker 1: find someone because they did MGF already two they did that,
Speaker 1: So I don't know, We'll we'll see.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be Ricochet. It's gonna be Ricochet.
Speaker 1: Good match. I just that's not a story that interests
Speaker 1: me at all of like the way I like. Don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, I like Ricochet, like the Psycho Nerd story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think to me, the Rickey's character is a
Speaker 1: perfect like mid car title guy not world title guy.
Speaker 1: Like to me, no, I don't know if I's supposed
Speaker 1: to want that. That is like the Dynamite six cent,
Speaker 1: like he could do a Dynamite aw world title shot.
Speaker 1: I don't think he could do like a.
Speaker 5: That's like a TV match, like that works.
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right now, you really don't have anyone else in
Speaker 3: a main event position.
Speaker 2: Okay, mjf's going out.
Speaker 4: Do you think they ever give Lashly a world title
Speaker 4: shot or gonna be that scares the hell? I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Let him win the Continental Classic or T T and
Speaker 1: T stay away from the if he's willing to do business, sure,
Speaker 1: because like surprisingly, I don't know why, but like that's
Speaker 1: like I low key, they could have an awful match,
Speaker 1: but they could also have a really good match. Lastly
Speaker 1: and hang Out, I don't know why they just have
Speaker 1: like that biggie meat slap and men type of match,
Speaker 1: because like Hangman is not like a big guy, but
Speaker 1: he is like a he's a broad guy, like he's
Speaker 1: a he's a classic GMO bruiser type.
Speaker 2: He is a bruiser.
Speaker 1: And last he's like a heavyweight sometimes giant, so he's
Speaker 1: also BRUI class. Yeah, yeah, specialist. He's a specialist, you know. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I suppose, like last he's a good option. That just
Speaker 1: scares me. If I'm watching Hangman's second reign end to
Speaker 1: Bobby Lashley, that's that that might have been worse than
Speaker 1: Mocksley retaining over Hey man, you know, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think they can't run back because they did that.
Speaker 3: And now I must say I wasn't doing this stuff
Speaker 3: with Okata. He would be he would be a great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like a draw not yeah, not, let don't
Speaker 1: give me Lance Archer again, like unless there's something.
Speaker 4: Signing no one else said, like the Don Coals, but
Speaker 4: then he already fought Alexander.
Speaker 5: Like non title. Yeah he did like takesa for like
Speaker 5: we said, I don't think it could happen. He did.
Speaker 4: Kyle Flescher and the Red I mean, you have like
Speaker 4: Hetches Sarah who's a good wrestler, but he's not really
Speaker 4: like established as much I don't think so. And then
Speaker 4: below that are like you're in you're entering the job
Speaker 4: or tier of.
Speaker 2: The of the Jericho Big matches. I must say, Rocky
Speaker 2: and Trent Barretta.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be it's gonna be Jericho's return match. That's
Speaker 1: how they get him back is because they can tie together. Right,
Speaker 1: the first ever title match was those two. I can
Speaker 1: Scott see it now. I don't want that, but I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to think of any like free signings coming
Speaker 1: up to anybody that's like, whether it's New Japan or
Speaker 1: anywhere that they might build up. You know what on
Speaker 1: DRAWD they couldn't make.
Speaker 5: Like I don't think he has a non complete.
Speaker 3: Because he just know, yeah, he's got a Mexico Mexican.
Speaker 1: We didn't even talk about that, but I don't know what.
Speaker 1: The as had the greatest quote on that that he said,
Speaker 1: he's widling like the people doing those triple H emails
Speaker 1: and Jim Spend because when you get these emails in
Speaker 1: the game like this doesn't happen anymore. It doesn't draw
Speaker 1: like on draws out there making moves that we don't
Speaker 1: even know. But and hey, that would be a drawn
Speaker 1: hangman would bang. That would be really good. Again, I
Speaker 1: think it's like TV. I don't think it's a review.
Speaker 5: I don't even know if a like hires and again.
Speaker 1: Fightfoel said the rumor was that as long as it
Speaker 1: wasn't anything bad wise fired, they're open to business with them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know there's the rumors of the drug use.
Speaker 3: If it's not the drug that I've been seeing in
Speaker 3: some of the rumors, So I think if it's just
Speaker 3: like other things, he was over it and he didn't
Speaker 3: want to go, and he was purposely trying to get
Speaker 3: himself fired, which we know and gerate to do purposely
Speaker 3: try and get himself fired.
Speaker 5: The you know, the the snow man. You know, maybe
Speaker 5: he's not mad about that.
Speaker 1: He gets it. He gets man, and I understand, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of work days, you know. So I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to let me just look quickly aw Ross, I'm
Speaker 1: sharing of any but and again even.
Speaker 3: I'm looking that there's not anyone who's not currently involved
Speaker 3: in something that that would be anywhere near that top
Speaker 3: just returns on TV like this.
Speaker 1: Yes, Kenny's the option they could go to, whether he's
Speaker 1: face or he and I'm down if they give someone
Speaker 1: like a face versus face thing with the hang Man.
Speaker 1: But again, even on dry and Ricochet, they could be
Speaker 1: on pvv as so longs they're not main eventing, right,
Speaker 1: they could do that because Kyle Fletcher, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the stock of a star power, but
Speaker 1: you can tell he's like building right now, right man
Speaker 1: two Badi's injured, he'll j right now. Would be the
Speaker 1: perfect scenario because they built that story up with them
Speaker 1: and then Jayad got injured. That would be really good time.
Speaker 1: But I don't know where he is.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've got a returning Pac who could.
Speaker 1: Pack yeah, I guess, but then you're back he's back
Speaker 1: in the Death Writers Vortex, right, like, don't bet wrong.
Speaker 1: That'd be a good match. Yeah, running back in.
Speaker 3: Because they were supposed to be they were supposed to
Speaker 3: be at the first pay per view, uh to get
Speaker 3: or not the first TI.
Speaker 2: They're supposed to be at the second pay per view.
Speaker 3: They're supposed to be at full gear wrestling at each
Speaker 3: other because they had that whole thing on BT about
Speaker 3: Hangman needing to lose weight because he didn't look good
Speaker 3: because Pak was always walking around in just his tights,
Speaker 3: so like they had that whole thing, and then I
Speaker 3: don't I think that's when Pac ended up getting injured
Speaker 3: or he didn't want to lose because the hole he
Speaker 3: was dragging Gate champions. Something happened and they ended up
Speaker 3: not going at it.
Speaker 2: Yes, but yeah they're hurting for.
Speaker 5: They are Jeff Jarrett.
Speaker 1: Finally to live that dream. He wants to be a'd be.
Speaker 5: I'd be hyper for Jarrett.
Speaker 1: You know what, just get just fall through with the
Speaker 1: mone bump. Just give the Beast Mortis. You know, the
Speaker 1: Beast Mortis in there. You know, nice three point five.
Speaker 1: We're good to go. Rouge is always an option, but like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, last he just shoot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's the issue. They need, they need somebody
Speaker 1: needs something. And that's why I wonder if either they're
Speaker 1: gonna be baby faced babyface or if one of these
Speaker 1: baby faces are going to turn, I would be.
Speaker 5: So down comes back just the media.
Speaker 1: Beats them. Yeah, so yeah, we'll see what I said.
Speaker 1: We don't know we're gonna wake to the cards. I
Speaker 1: think it's probably more likely we'll probably do a show
Speaker 1: on the nineteenth after because then we'll have both Wrestled
Speaker 1: Dream and uh Australia to review. Uh so let's see
Speaker 1: what is that? That's where are we at now? We're well, right,
Speaker 1: we're kind of in an awkward time here because we
Speaker 1: tried to do every two weeks. So we'll get back
Speaker 1: to you because maybe maybe there might be a maybe
Speaker 1: there might be a rest yeah maybe, yeah, there might
Speaker 1: actually be an Australia show, Like well, yeah, GMO, I
Speaker 1: gotta figure out. I'm hoping. My hope was to maybe
Speaker 1: do that at some point next weekend, but my next
Speaker 1: week is already busy it so I think with GM
Speaker 1: mode in the next couple months, there's gonna be one month,
Speaker 1: but we'll probably do it two for our one at
Speaker 1: the beginning and then at the end. I actually think
Speaker 1: probably for uh for the rest. Yeah, we'll have to
Speaker 1: figure it out because if we do a show after
Speaker 1: a wrestle dream, that's like almost a whole month away,
Speaker 1: So maybe won't do that. There might be like a
Speaker 1: Australia review show, wrestled Dream prediction show, and then something else.
Speaker 1: So we'll figure out. So right now not as clear,
Speaker 1: so we'll wait to that and yeah, GM mode, we'll
Speaker 1: try and do and if not, we'll make up for it.
Speaker 1: And then, Spops, did you ever do those draft points.
Speaker 5: Before we end this episode?
Speaker 1: What're we sitting at here?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 4: So, okay, David is at three ninety eight total points, uh,
Speaker 4: Trams is at six sixty eight, and I'm at six
Speaker 4: thirty six.
Speaker 1: Still hold that lead right now, Okay, I like it. Okay.
Speaker 4: So the only one who got main event points for
Speaker 4: the PLU this week though is David because he got
Speaker 4: that twenty twenty points there foo.
Speaker 2: Finally yeah.
Speaker 1: Is Cody Yeah, no one has Drew as Drew. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess he was away for a while. I thought
Speaker 1: we thought he was gonna be injured, right, So well,
Speaker 1: there you go, we're cooking. We Well, our next switch
Speaker 1: is coming in November, so obviously big legs between.
Speaker 5: Me us switch of leg half half my roster.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well there you goes. So yeah, no, we'll
Speaker 1: be back sometime in October, break down, a lot of
Speaker 1: big wrestling stuff. Yeah, and we'll be born so see