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Speaker 1: the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty eight.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to me in about Hero Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera. You're Cody Richie. Thanks for
Speaker 2: coming in. It's been a lot of fun so far.
Speaker 2: This is and it goes by like that when you
Speaker 2: have a good guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, and then we're.
Speaker 2: Gonna go We're gonna go back to your subject. I
Speaker 2: can't remember when it puts now about Kenny. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's because that's a big deal. Now we have Henry's
Speaker 2: breaking news.
Speaker 4: This is Eye on the.
Speaker 1: Ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 5: The college football playoff bracket was announced yesterday. The buys
Speaker 5: went to Oregon, Georgia, Boise State, and Arizona State. The
Speaker 5: first round matchups are number twelve, Clempson at number five, Texas,
Speaker 5: number eleven, SMU at number six, Penn State, number ten,
Speaker 5: Indiana at number seven Notre Dame, and number nine Tennessee
Speaker 5: at number eight Ohio State.
Speaker 2: So I think that if if Dylan had is not
Speaker 2: the coach of the Year, something's wrong in this world.
Speaker 3: He should who else could it be?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know and that, and it's
Speaker 2: not going to be a Dion. It's not gonna be
Speaker 2: any No, it's gonna be Yeah, it has to be
Speaker 2: Glass Pig dead last in the conference.
Speaker 3: Another.
Speaker 2: They're playing for national title.
Speaker 6: And you know things, things were really looking good for
Speaker 6: them because if they would have got the festival. Can
Speaker 6: you imagine they get the semi final.
Speaker 2: It's a stupidity that it didn't get the Festa.
Speaker 6: Bawl Yeah about Boise. Yeah, they were seated fourth and
Speaker 6: Boise wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk more about him when we have time.
Speaker 5: NFL Week fourteen, yesterday, the Seahawks defeated the Cardinals thirty
Speaker 5: to eighteen to improve their lead in the NFC West.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5: The Rams defeated the Bills forty four to forty two,
Speaker 5: despite Josh Allen six touchdown.
Speaker 2: They were my best bet. I think Jays as well.
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking there's no way they're gonna come back.
Speaker 2: There's no way they're not going to cover. And then
Speaker 2: they came back. It was like, holy crap, one hundred
Speaker 2: and one hundred pretty much.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Was that the Buffalo game? Yeah? Yeah, I kind of
Speaker 3: like we talk about nil money.
Speaker 6: Since I went to Wyoming, what would Josh allen in
Speaker 6: twenty sixteen, you would.
Speaker 2: Have gotten a lot of calls from Wyoming. Can we
Speaker 2: take care of this quarterback of ours?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: They would, but but no, but what would have school
Speaker 6: paid them in two thousand?
Speaker 2: What would they have though? What would they I mean
Speaker 2: Wyoming to have some kind of slush fun.
Speaker 3: They do, but not like the you know, maybe they
Speaker 3: could pay I got.
Speaker 6: Fifty thousand dollars. Yeah, and do you pay him the
Speaker 6: entire budget?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 6: To talk about That's what I was getting into, because
Speaker 6: what are you gonna pay your quarterback? What are you
Speaker 6: gonnay your running back? What are you pay your Well
Speaker 6: it's a business guy. A lot of our guys will
Speaker 6: be like, well, okay, you know Henry makes sys, how
Speaker 6: comes toeves making all I get the day it's all commissioned.
Speaker 6: So it's kind of like Earn, like Corey was saying,
Speaker 6: but oh for you your place, Yeah, okay, for for
Speaker 6: the salespeople, but for the support people. It could be like,
Speaker 6: well we hire somebody in one market and not another market.
Speaker 6: Somebody may have an advantage, Yeah, an advantage exactly.
Speaker 5: The Chiefs defeated the Chargers nineteen to seventeen on Sunday
Speaker 5: Night Football to clinch the AFC West.
Speaker 2: Always finding a way to win, always finding a way
Speaker 2: to win.
Speaker 6: I'd cheer for against Kansas City every weekend. The guy
Speaker 6: hit the field goal that went.
Speaker 2: Through, well, yeah, banged off the thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They they've really looked at on a lot of things.
Speaker 6: I don't think they're the jaggernaut that they know. No,
Speaker 6: but would you find ways to win exactly?
Speaker 3: They're gonna have home field advantage Buffalo losing.
Speaker 5: Monday Night Football tonight at six fifteen. The Cowboys at
Speaker 5: the Bengals.
Speaker 2: Is there at the Bengals or no? Cowboys are home home? Yeah.
Speaker 2: I used to be a I think you probably knew that, right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I came from Dallas Becta. No, I'm no fan of
Speaker 2: theirs anymore.
Speaker 3: Is a huge cowboy?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I see his stuff on there. He's like
Speaker 2: the tier the tiery Jordan guy. Yeah, you should the Sun, sorry,
Speaker 2: Michael Mike.
Speaker 5: Arizona players. A lot of Arizona players entered the portal
Speaker 5: this weekend, including linebacker Jacob Manu, offensive lineman Wendel Moe Junior,
Speaker 5: and tight end key On Burnette.
Speaker 2: Man Cody, Cody, I feel sorry for you Booster guys.
Speaker 2: You you people who have really some some emotional steak
Speaker 2: of this, maybe some financial or whatever, because it's not good.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't feel good.
Speaker 6: It really doesn't. Like I'm kind of apathetic right now.
Speaker 6: I don't blame you, but I'm never ever ever going
Speaker 6: to be like anti militant, like tear it all day own. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, you just can't be that way if you
Speaker 6: if you signed up to be a sports fan, you
Speaker 6: have to live.
Speaker 3: You have to live with That's why the good.
Speaker 6: Times are so much better when you win, because it's
Speaker 6: a long drought.
Speaker 2: Just do we have a lot of stuff or though
Speaker 2: not that much? Okay, So let me ask you if
Speaker 2: a give me the best time at U of A
Speaker 2: as a fan. For you, the best one was, like
Speaker 2: you know, obviously ninety seven was pretty big, but other
Speaker 2: than that.
Speaker 6: Well, well ninety seven ninety eight were awesome, right because
Speaker 6: football really good too, and then baseball was good.
Speaker 3: Another really good era was.
Speaker 6: That Festival team if there was a playoff, If there
Speaker 6: was a playoff then like there is now. Yeah, that
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety four U of A Desert scoring team. When
Speaker 6: they destroyed Miami thirty nothing, twenty eight nothing, whatever, they
Speaker 6: would have won the national championship.
Speaker 2: They played really and Miami didn't want to be there.
Speaker 6: They didn't want to be there, but our defense was
Speaker 6: coming on so strong that it just was like a tsunami.
Speaker 3: And I think we're the best team in the country.
Speaker 6: We would have been in the playoffs in ninety eight,
Speaker 6: you know, well, eighty seven, eighty eight. You know the
Speaker 6: basketball Dick Tommy's first year four four and three, right,
Speaker 6: And I texted coach Brandon one night, you know, and
Speaker 6: I just said, hey, remember who your mentor was his
Speaker 6: first year here was a four four and three year
Speaker 6: and we hired coach told me to come speak to
Speaker 6: our Crest team. And a few years ago before he
Speaker 6: passed away, and he told some really cool stories about
Speaker 6: you know that they they were playing Washington State that
Speaker 6: year and they lost to Washington State, and he on
Speaker 6: the in the locker room afterwards, he said he just
Speaker 6: read every by the Riot Act because half the guys
Speaker 6: were still Coach Smith guys. And they came back to Tucson.
Speaker 6: They got back and it was a night practice practiced
Speaker 6: at six and six or seven in the morning. Remember,
Speaker 6: remember that full full pats, I remember that, and he goes,
Speaker 6: doesn't it feel good to get that anger out of you?
Speaker 6: And he goes, he goes. We didn't lose a game.
Speaker 6: They tied a su Remember the last game year to
Speaker 6: keep the street going?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I remember that. I had to go cover
Speaker 2: the practice.
Speaker 3: So those were good times.
Speaker 6: Last year when Jed won, my buddy Heath Ray who
Speaker 6: passed away, and I went to the Alima bowle. It
Speaker 6: was just we're like, wow, we're back. Basketball was you know,
Speaker 6: had just beaten Duke. Yeah, we we we beat Oklahoma
Speaker 6: even though they didn't really want to be there. Sure,
Speaker 6: but you just felt everything was.
Speaker 3: From one year. What a different Sure?
Speaker 2: Sure, No, you're right, okay, okay.
Speaker 5: The new AP College Basketball poll came out today. Tennessee
Speaker 5: is up to number one after Kansas dropped Aumurn number two,
Speaker 5: and Iowa State is number three. Kansas felt like seven
Speaker 5: and is ten ten because they lost twice as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did the college and that's what I wanted
Speaker 2: to ask for it because it's right now, it's kind
Speaker 2: of crazy. All the top teams are losing. UCLA's in
Speaker 2: the top twenty five. Right, twenty four was the last
Speaker 2: time Arizona and UCLA were not in the top twenty five,
Speaker 2: and they played this weekend and then Ucla ahead of Arizona.
Speaker 6: It's been a long time, you know, my my this
Speaker 6: as an amateur watcher of sports, which really kind of
Speaker 6: a bomber the traditional schools like at Kansas, Yeah, losing
Speaker 6: to Missouri, so you know they talk about that group
Speaker 6: of four schools. There's really are a power for there's
Speaker 6: only really power two conferences now because the big twelve
Speaker 6: in the ACC don't have the money from football, so
Speaker 6: it's going to bleed over into the basketball. Look it
Speaker 6: up the Tennessee, Alabama, Auburn, all these schools.
Speaker 2: Do you because you're you go to the tournament, don't you?
Speaker 2: You find a way you go?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know you're still entrenched in basketball as well.
Speaker 6: I love basketball basketball. Someone in March Madness is so
Speaker 6: much fun. I normally won't go if Arizona's not playing
Speaker 6: in it. You asked me. My favorite was the spring
Speaker 6: of ninety seven, so Tucson. Back then we had spring baseball.
Speaker 6: The Rockies were over there at High Corbett with the LPGA.
Speaker 6: The first round of the tournament was in Tucson where
Speaker 6: Rickman Jarris was here with Utah wake Force was here.
Speaker 6: I mean a lot of good teams. Arizona was in Memphis,
Speaker 6: you were right there. I didn't go and then I
Speaker 6: caught it the next week in Birmingham.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I went down there for that great weekend.
Speaker 3: Great weekend. And then the final four weeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, great weekend because they beat up. They beat the
Speaker 2: Kansas in three sixteen. Uh. And then the call could
Speaker 2: they beat Providence? Providence? People forget about over time. They
Speaker 2: almost lost that game. They had a big lead and
Speaker 2: they almost lost in the last time.
Speaker 6: I still remember to this day because you know, I
Speaker 6: think loud Olson maybe one of the top two or
Speaker 6: three coaches ever, and we had him here.
Speaker 2: I think people, you know, well, you need that guy who,
Speaker 2: like you said, to buy in and stay here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I love it here because I'm good here.
Speaker 2: Why would I leave here? Why would I leave? Right?
Speaker 3: And and uh.
Speaker 6: When he he called it, Providence got the ball to
Speaker 6: win the game. Remember the corner in the cord that
Speaker 6: guy got Sham got here.
Speaker 3: Amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke called the time out.
Speaker 6: Normally the defensive coach doesn't call timeout to set up
Speaker 6: his defense.
Speaker 2: They missed a couple of three pointers at the end
Speaker 2: to to not tie it. No, it was great.
Speaker 6: They doged a lot of bullets, true, especially that game.
Speaker 6: No one ever talks about the game. They remember we
Speaker 6: beat Kansas North Carolina and uh Kentucky, Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Well, the first game, the first game South, they were
Speaker 2: down by ten with the like four minutes left, right,
Speaker 2: they won in that one because you always had to
Speaker 2: get best to that first game, and they did. They
Speaker 2: you know, they won the next game pretty easily. And
Speaker 2: then then the role started happening.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, and lud always adjusted with the times because
Speaker 6: remember he wanted.
Speaker 2: To have the big guys. Then you went to the
Speaker 2: three guard line.
Speaker 6: What I laugh about today is a couple of guys
Speaker 6: in our office forgive me a hard time because I
Speaker 6: used to tell the guys, well, like twenty years ago,
Speaker 6: who's the most successful business guy to ever come out
Speaker 6: of t uh twenty years ago? No, the guy from
Speaker 6: your jets. Nope, it'd be a two soon t s. No,
Speaker 6: wouldn't you say ardi Moreno?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, this is how can I forget?
Speaker 6: What's several billions of dollars, yes, and owns Anaheim Angels.
Speaker 6: He's to make all those guys because I knew a
Speaker 6: lot of the guys that worked for him. You see
Speaker 6: him all over time. They wear blue Oxford shirts and
Speaker 6: white Oxford shirts with a striped tie, usually the U
Speaker 6: of A TI because he hired all these guys out
Speaker 6: of U of A and so any you know, clean shaven,
Speaker 6: kind of blah blah blah. So I'm like, I kind
Speaker 6: of wanted to do the old Cincinnati Reds New York
Speaker 6: Yankee thing, like guys don't wear beers, blah blah blah.
Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden, I talk to you,
Speaker 6: guys have beers, right, And I'm like, and then as
Speaker 6: left at the core, I go, I remember when Luke
Speaker 6: went let the guys wear earrings, and then all of
Speaker 6: a sudden he let him wear earrings and they won
Speaker 6: the national championship.
Speaker 2: Remember that that was Yeah? Well, you know they had
Speaker 2: They had an efflected group of personalities too, led by Miles,
Speaker 2: who was a pain in the neck, but he was
Speaker 2: their pain in the neck, Byby who just kind of
Speaker 2: went about his business. J T, who was perfect for
Speaker 2: the situation.
Speaker 6: He was the guy being a fan GT. Yes, because
Speaker 6: his ego he put aside.
Speaker 2: He did the kJ Williams J. Lewis thing.
Speaker 6: He did the kJ lowising and on only did he
Speaker 6: do it one year, he did it three years. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and Louke rewarded him by giving him the keys of
Speaker 6: the car that senior Yearah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he took the car and got it Arizona
Speaker 2: in trouble.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But he's also averaged, like, oh, he was the player
Speaker 2: of the year. He's the player the year. And then
Speaker 2: they had a guy who was very, very good, may
Speaker 2: have been the best player of all was Dickerson, who
Speaker 2: kind of had that funky you know, maybe I played,
Speaker 2: maybe I don't.
Speaker 3: Right, he kind of had that yeah, in an out guy.
Speaker 6: In and out guy. And then and then you had
Speaker 6: a guy. Now I know you didn't want to go
Speaker 6: this way, but now we're just kind of you know,
Speaker 6: we're talking to you talked about the ninety sixteen with Corey. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so they lose that game. Joe McClain sick Kansas game.
Speaker 6: Joseph Blair was ineligible.
Speaker 2: Right, and look at you and you remember, yes, So they.
Speaker 6: Forced aj Bramblet to get a lot of playing time
Speaker 6: that he no, he wouldn't have gotten right.
Speaker 2: And they had him, they had him on the ropes.
Speaker 6: But how invaluable was that playing time for A. J.
Speaker 6: Bramlett the next year?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And who was the hero Danielle Harris?
Speaker 2: Yeah, usually Kentucky or yeah. No, but I thought, I'll
Speaker 2: always say this in sorry Henry's for taking your time.
Speaker 2: But but the being able to play Kansas close the
Speaker 2: year before in eighty six, they had him, they had him, uh,
Speaker 2: and then and they lost in the final seconds helped
Speaker 2: them beat him the next year.
Speaker 6: And and I was talking that I spoke about earlier
Speaker 6: at Judy Kessler's retirement party, and Luke's daughter came to it,
Speaker 6: which was which was Dy, the youngest one, okay, And
Speaker 6: so she came and and we were just talking, and
Speaker 6: I said, you know, we I gotta go with mister Mueller,
Speaker 6: Bob Muller, my boss on that trip. And we got
Speaker 6: off the plane in Birmingham, Okay, with the team, Yeah,
Speaker 6: with the team, and the assistant coach, Phil Johnson came
Speaker 6: back and was talking to Bob and Peter Evans, a
Speaker 6: couple of guys, and he was telling how they were
Speaker 6: going to defend Jock Vaughn and they weren'ting to have baby.
Speaker 6: They were gonna Michael Dickerson. It was four inches long,
Speaker 6: which is brilliant, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: But as they got off the plane, the ESPN announcer
Speaker 6: greeted the team and Loot had on his blue blaze
Speaker 6: or sunglasses. He looked like like movie star. Yeah, and
Speaker 6: they're like, what do you think about this David versus
Speaker 6: Goliath matchup? And he goes, who's David? Who's Goliath? Where Arizona?
Speaker 6: And I was like, that was so cool, right because
Speaker 6: Michael Dickerson, we're underdogs. Really Yeah, yeah, Dickerson didn't know
Speaker 6: any better, but.
Speaker 3: He didn't know any better.
Speaker 6: But it was just it was just a finally you know,
Speaker 6: you talk about like it hadn't been that one game
Speaker 6: was the greatest, and the Washington football game in ninety.
Speaker 2: Two years Yeah, no, no, no question, both those games
Speaker 2: are huge. God, you just took the thoughts on oh
Speaker 2: and Kansas at the time the best easily the best
Speaker 2: college basketball team in that year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you know, they mean thirty six and one.
Speaker 6: I think there was Scott Pollard, they had the other
Speaker 6: Rayfel of friends. Look at you, Jared Hass you remember yesterday,
Speaker 6: but you can remember anything important? Yeah, exactly, your waitning dated,
Speaker 6: your waiting date, you remember that. Yeah, okay, anything important, okay, Henry, Uh,
Speaker 6: just like a minute, I got nothing else?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, perfect, perfect timing. Okay, great, So we're gonna
Speaker 2: get get out of here and then we're gonna talk
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Speaker 1: I on the Ball with Steve Rovera on Fox Sports
Speaker 1: fourteen fifty eight.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Win the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera. In today with me
Speaker 2: is Cody Richie. Now we have Max Marley with the
Speaker 2: Pima basketball men's basketball program.
Speaker 3: Max.
Speaker 2: How are you.
Speaker 15: I'm good. I appreciate you having it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, great, great to talk to you. This
Speaker 2: is how old Cody and I are. I covered your
Speaker 2: dad's team back in the early nineties when they were
Speaker 2: with Barkley and all those guys. So god, I'm how
Speaker 2: old and you're very very young, Steve.
Speaker 6: I remember when you got drafted and they and they
Speaker 6: boot him and they boat him in cotton Fait.
Speaker 3: Simm's got all mad and said, you'll remember this, and.
Speaker 2: I do remember them. No, do you play? I haven't
Speaker 2: seen you guys play, but I know you're bring it up.
Speaker 2: Do you play a similar style?
Speaker 15: Yeah, very similar style to him, which is.
Speaker 2: Of course, just a little taller than me, but yeah,
Speaker 2: which is dynamic. Are you? Are you a pretty good
Speaker 2: defender then yeah.
Speaker 15: I like to pride myself on defense for sure, and
Speaker 15: I know that's something he used to pride himself on
Speaker 15: and just all around hustle, so I try to take
Speaker 15: that after him.
Speaker 2: How did you end up at PEMA having lived in Phoenix?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I.
Speaker 15: Actually did my first year at basketball over at Central
Speaker 15: Michigan University, where that's where actually he played. Yeah, so
Speaker 15: that's where I committed out of high school. And then
Speaker 15: it was great over there, great great, great education, but
Speaker 15: it just wasn't the right fit for me overall. So
Speaker 15: looking in that transfer portal, I talked to coach Brian
Speaker 15: Peabody a lot over at TEMA, and I already knew
Speaker 15: of his track record just from talking to him in
Speaker 15: high school and then also from my dad who used
Speaker 15: to recruit from PEMA back when he was a coach
Speaker 15: at GCU. So right, yeah, so that's how I came
Speaker 15: down the team. I just really talked to coach Peabody
Speaker 15: a lot and just thought to be the best fit
Speaker 15: for me.
Speaker 2: And the style must fit you too, because he scored
Speaker 2: like two hundred points a game.
Speaker 15: Yeah, that was the big thing is he loves to
Speaker 15: run up and down and that's something I think really
Speaker 15: good in my game. Is I love to just go.
Speaker 15: So that was a big reason why to come down here.
Speaker 2: Also, So so you came down, did you look at
Speaker 2: other places? Because obviously Central Michigan, your dad played there,
Speaker 2: if there's a legacy there, and what the weather's different?
Speaker 2: So what really drew you to here besides maybe a
Speaker 2: peabody because now you have to kind of reset your goals.
Speaker 15: Yeah, so what really dreaming here is once again tea body.
Speaker 15: But the way that he plays, like how you said,
Speaker 15: the fit is really what I was looking for. I
Speaker 15: was looking to go somewhere this year where I can
Speaker 15: be able to play my game, yeah, and play with
Speaker 15: a bunch of great kids and a good team that's
Speaker 15: looking to win a lot of games. Because that was
Speaker 15: really important to me too. So just I came down
Speaker 15: here for a little visit and played with the guys,
Speaker 15: and I just thought it would be a really good
Speaker 15: place for me to grow grow my game one more
Speaker 15: year and uh, just have a great season.
Speaker 2: So do you already know where the next step is
Speaker 2: or is it too early to tell.
Speaker 15: Too early to tell right now? Still seedons pretty much
Speaker 15: just go and it'll probably be until a little bit later.
Speaker 15: But starting to hear some things. But just wait until later.
Speaker 2: For sure, right right? Okay, No, no great future ahead
Speaker 2: of you.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: And your dad probably comes down to visit every now
Speaker 2: and again to see you play.
Speaker 15: Yeah, he'll be if you ever come down to a game,
Speaker 15: it's a great chance to probably see him. He's there
Speaker 15: most most of the time, as long as he's not
Speaker 15: out of town, he's at a game.
Speaker 2: So yeah, a Max.
Speaker 6: Steve sitting friend today when you're when when your dad
Speaker 6: went into the Arizona Sports Hall of Fame a few
Speaker 6: years ago, by a chance for you there at that event.
Speaker 15: Okay, So I was actually not at that event. I
Speaker 15: was off at school at that time. Okay, So I
Speaker 15: wasn't there. I wasn't there for that sadly, but it
Speaker 15: was cool experience.
Speaker 2: Is that the time you were?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's event we sponsored. So I got to hear
Speaker 6: his best friend. Well, Dan's speech was incredible talking about
Speaker 6: Central Michigan because and and the reason I mentioned this,
Speaker 6: Max is it's your dad's buddy. They came down together
Speaker 6: from Central Michigan.
Speaker 3: They didn't even have cars up there. They were just
Speaker 3: two college guys. It was his best buddy, and he
Speaker 3: left on his first road trip and he left his
Speaker 3: buddy the keys to his car that he just bought
Speaker 3: with his first contract, and when he got back, his
Speaker 3: buddy put like four or five thousand miles on it
Speaker 3: or something like that.
Speaker 6: Like it was a pretty funny story. So I think
Speaker 6: I think it was one of his Central Michigan guys.
Speaker 6: And you know our old ad here, Dave. He keats
Speaker 6: a Central Michigan guy, So I hear it. It's great
Speaker 6: up there. But we know Brian really well and he
Speaker 6: plays a great cell of basketball. What high school did
Speaker 6: you go to?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 15: I went to Arcadia High School, Local and Phoenix, and
Speaker 15: then I left my last year and I went to
Speaker 15: a prep school over in New Hampshire called Brewster Academy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, great.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's a great school for young basketball players and
Speaker 15: a great education.
Speaker 2: Right right, So how in the hell do you survive
Speaker 2: up there for two years or whatever after having lived
Speaker 2: in Phoenix?
Speaker 15: Yeah, So I don't know. Maybe I have like a
Speaker 15: little Michigan blood in me, but I don't mind the
Speaker 15: cold too much. I actually kind of enjoy like looking
Speaker 15: like a little snow but it was hard at first.
Speaker 15: But I'd rather honestly be in the cold weather than
Speaker 15: the blazing hot weather over the summer.
Speaker 2: So yeah, makes sense, makes sense. So what else tell
Speaker 2: me about this team doing very well? And maybe I
Speaker 2: don't I don't know this, and I should ask Ray
Speaker 2: this what your stats are?
Speaker 15: Yeah, so our team is really good right now. I
Speaker 15: believe we are nine. I know. I want to say
Speaker 15: we have a game. Our next game is on this Wednesday,
Speaker 15: we go down and play Mas Up, so I'll be good.
Speaker 15: But we're a really good team this here, looking to
Speaker 15: go far. And I'm pretty sure we're favored to win
Speaker 15: our division, which is our goal as we go to
Speaker 15: that tournament and win it all. So seeing our team's
Speaker 15: really good and we can do that. And then right
Speaker 15: now I'm performing, it's pretty well. I'm averaging sixteen, shooting
Speaker 15: forty plus from the three point line, and it's good.
Speaker 15: It's a good good, it's a good time, and it's
Speaker 15: a fun team to play with, especially with all the
Speaker 15: guys and the coaching staff. Everyone's really good.
Speaker 2: Well, if you're averaging sixteen, you're probably averaging as a
Speaker 2: team eighty eight or something.
Speaker 15: I'm just our teams averaging like one hundred and.
Speaker 2: So there's a bunch of you guys averaging sixteen or more.
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, our whole team is all about just one
Speaker 15: more passes and getting everything. That's how averaging one hundred
Speaker 15: and tenmes points a game is going to be multiple scores.
Speaker 15: So our team's really really talented this year.
Speaker 2: Has anybody come close to beating you guys?
Speaker 15: Our last game was our only game that someone game close.
Speaker 15: We won by six, But we don't have our best game,
Speaker 15: and then I founded out pretty early too, so it
Speaker 15: just wasn't the best. But uh, you know, besides that,
Speaker 15: it mostly blowouts.
Speaker 6: Okay, what's it like to play? Have you played down
Speaker 6: at Cochiese yet? I heard that say Rockets environment?
Speaker 15: No, so, uh, we don't play Coach Chief this year,
Speaker 15: but I know they played them last year, but that'd
Speaker 15: be a fun game. I wish we could play against them.
Speaker 15: But we have a Christmas tournament coming up down here
Speaker 15: at tim of the twenty eighth, twenty ninth, and thirtieth,
Speaker 15: I believe, and there's gonna be like some of the
Speaker 15: best teams in the country down here, So that's gonna
Speaker 15: be a really fun tournament to plant.
Speaker 2: Outside of knowing about Peabody and your dad knowing about Peabody,
Speaker 2: what did you know about Tucson? You know, you're in Phoenix,
Speaker 2: but what did you think about Tucson? And what did
Speaker 2: you know about Pima before all this?
Speaker 15: So I really didn't know much I knew. I mean,
Speaker 15: I knew about Tuson of course, being from Phoenix, and
Speaker 15: a lot of my close buddies from home go to
Speaker 15: the local U of A down here. But besides that,
Speaker 15: I'll probably visited two song like one time in my life.
Speaker 15: And uh, I didn't know much about it, but I
Speaker 15: knew it was a great place. And then Pema wise,
Speaker 15: I really didn't know much about Pema. I knew they
Speaker 15: were well respected in Arizona, and I knew that they
Speaker 15: were the best, one of the best, one of the
Speaker 15: best or the best Jucos in Arizona. But besides that,
Speaker 15: I really didn't know much about any of.
Speaker 2: It, honestly, right, No, no, no, was it difficult because
Speaker 2: of one the last name uh and and you had
Speaker 2: that you decided to step down take it, you know,
Speaker 2: go to the j C level. Was that kind of
Speaker 2: a what was what was your thought process for that?
Speaker 2: Because you had a very good school, you had a
Speaker 2: d one doing it over there, and then you kind
Speaker 2: of say, okay, let me think this through again. Yeah.
Speaker 15: So the reason why I came down on j C
Speaker 15: level was really just that best fit for me. My
Speaker 15: biggest thing this year was being able to play in
Speaker 15: a system where I can play my real game of
Speaker 15: basketball and be able to produce and show people however
Speaker 15: produced that was only probably without my last school, is
Speaker 15: that I wasn't able to do things that I know
Speaker 15: it can do. Yeah, it was kind of just limited there.
Speaker 15: So that's kind of why I chose the JC route.
Speaker 15: And the reason why I came to pump is because
Speaker 15: again coach Pbody is really good at getting players so
Speaker 15: the next level. And that was one thing about me
Speaker 15: is he is like, if you come here, I'm gonna
Speaker 15: get you back to where you want to go. And
Speaker 15: he said, I'm able to play my type of game.
Speaker 15: So it's just really perfect.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, no, of course, doing well doing well with that?
Speaker 2: So you play Wednesday? You said, what's after that?
Speaker 15: We played Wednesday at Mason and after that we're have
Speaker 15: like a little break and then twenty eight, twenty ninth,
Speaker 15: and thirtieth we play a little Christmas tournament down at Pima,
Speaker 15: and it's going to be a really, really, really competitive tournament.
Speaker 15: Some of the best yeah games in the country are
Speaker 15: going to be down here.
Speaker 2: Okay, So then I'll check with Ray and maybe get
Speaker 2: out there and see you guys play together, see I
Speaker 2: see you in action, and maybe see your dad. Bill.
Speaker 2: Thanks a bunch of MAXs. Good luck to you. Great
Speaker 2: to hear from me.
Speaker 15: Good luck, Yeah, thank you, guys.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: You'll be well. Have good luck to week. Fantastic next
Speaker 2: Marty from Pima. They're obviously very good. Peoboddy's working in
Speaker 2: his magic, you know. Here's the ball goes scores the
Speaker 2: boys into.
Speaker 6: Some being the small, small, small world. Joe Hickle, who
Speaker 6: works with me to be an assistant for only for
Speaker 6: a few years over at p for who for Brent,
Speaker 6: he was part of us, He's partly Eddie Eddie and people.
Speaker 3: All those guys are all great.
Speaker 6: And Brian was a judge for our holiday party one
Speaker 6: year party, once a year, part once a year.
Speaker 2: This is the Christmas party, the Christmas I know, you
Speaker 2: get a stinky you get, you get mcave. I talked
Speaker 2: to my cave every now and again. He's with the
Speaker 2: honor health.
Speaker 6: Now, yep, we're we're trying to get the guy that
Speaker 6: we're trying to get this year, even though who this
Speaker 6: guy is Paul and that is nasty Henry.
Speaker 3: Do you know who he is?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was recently like he fought the
Speaker 5: six guys.
Speaker 3: He fought the six guys at the Houstons. It's a story.
Speaker 3: You got to follow us the hockey guy.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm not.
Speaker 3: It's one of the Henry high It's one of the
Speaker 3: great stories of all time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you fought these six Irish gypsies up and and
Speaker 6: he still lives in a great guy, awesome guy trying
Speaker 6: to get.
Speaker 2: You must be distraught that there's no more hockey.
Speaker 6: Oh I was just yeah, there is here, but it's
Speaker 6: not the same.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's still great here.
Speaker 2: He's saving a lot of money though, Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: with the endorsements or sponsorship more for the nil That's
Speaker 2: that's true. Mister mister Cody. Do you have how how's
Speaker 2: it going? I'm sure you get calls like that all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 6: Kind of the way you start thinking about it is like,
Speaker 6: I'll just say, I'll be generous.
Speaker 3: Let's say you go six and six in football.
Speaker 6: We weren't six and six in football twenty years ago,
Speaker 6: and you didn't have to pay anyone, right.
Speaker 2: Right, No, we talked about this, We'll talk to we'll
Speaker 2: talk about Dillingham on the other side of the break.
Speaker 2: But I've said this very candidly, Cody, because it's not
Speaker 2: my money. But I would assume that some boosters kind
Speaker 2: of like you, and you know a lot of them
Speaker 2: would be kind of buyer's remorse and say I'm not
Speaker 2: paid for this and do this again.
Speaker 14: Well.
Speaker 6: The thing that makes you frustrate is when you read,
Speaker 6: like if you read social media or Twitter x or whatever,
Speaker 6: you don't.
Speaker 3: Do that, and people are going, what are the boosters doing?
Speaker 6: And I'm like, what are the it takes everybody takes
Speaker 6: you as a person criticized it buying a ticket to the.
Speaker 2: Game, right and totally right.
Speaker 6: The quote unquote boosters is like, you know, our top
Speaker 6: three or four or five boosters are sitting this out
Speaker 6: right now. I mean, Cole and Jeanie Davis deserve a
Speaker 6: presidential war. Jennie Clements. Some of the people that we have,
Speaker 6: but they can't just keep going to the well over exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel I don't know if I feel sorry
Speaker 2: for rich people, but yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because you know is rich people like everybody thinks
Speaker 6: everybody else is rich. But until you really know, it's
Speaker 6: all relative. I'm not inviting you to do some pay
Speaker 6: per views anymore. Yeah, well no, I know, but I
Speaker 6: mean it's just like my priority is our employees, Yeah,
Speaker 6: taking care of out right and making sure they have
Speaker 6: healthcare coverage and stuff like that. So I mean the
Speaker 6: excess stuff that you might want to get involved in.
Speaker 6: We may want to help out the Sister Jose or
Speaker 6: or the or the the Boys and Girls club, you know,
Speaker 6: stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so it's just one thing after now.
Speaker 2: And you're pretty targeted. You know, you do your best
Speaker 2: with who with whomever you want to well, you want.
Speaker 3: To help out the people that help you.
Speaker 6: So like if if if if an organization does business
Speaker 6: with us, we want to reciprocate it maybe ten times.
Speaker 6: But but that you have to be very very very
Speaker 6: diligent and careful how you spend your money. And and
Speaker 6: then it's it's just it's it's a it's a tough deal.
Speaker 3: It really is.
Speaker 6: But I'm hoping it all because, like one coach and
Speaker 6: my friend of mine said, the basketball coach at woman,
Speaker 6: there's only so much playing time that there's the same
Speaker 6: amount of minutes.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, you know, yeah, and it'll be.
Speaker 6: It'll be interesting now that we're two or three years
Speaker 6: into it, whether to see that. And I think I
Speaker 6: saw somebody mentioned the money that these guys thinks out
Speaker 6: there isn't really out there.
Speaker 2: Right, No, that's the whole thing. Well, you saw the
Speaker 2: kid from Vegas, right, he goes to Vegas and gets
Speaker 2: promised this thing and doesn't get paid, and he gets
Speaker 2: pissed and decides to leave. I think that happens more
Speaker 2: often than not.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: But then if you're if you're another coach, or what's
Speaker 6: that saying about that kid for life?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, do you want him working?
Speaker 2: No? You know, very good point, very good point.
Speaker 6: And you and you how many people you have working
Speaker 6: for you just locally about eighty so and you do
Speaker 6: a lot of the hiring.
Speaker 2: You can't do the interviews. Yes, okay, so you you've
Speaker 2: you've better than most no good teammate rather than no
Speaker 2: good teammate. And that's on his resume, right, But you
Speaker 2: if you've had.
Speaker 3: People leave and it's their prerogative, right they can.
Speaker 2: They can leave, and you probably want some some people
Speaker 2: to leave.
Speaker 6: Some Yeah, but there's been a few that have left
Speaker 6: that you're like, geez, I wish they hadn't left. But
Speaker 6: you can't please everybody, sure, But you want to build
Speaker 6: a good culture and be authenticn and and have just
Speaker 6: good people.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's any organization, any team that you have, No,
Speaker 2: because you guys have a good product. Obviously you're a
Speaker 2: good dude. And we're going to get back to that
Speaker 2: because I've always last week since Brendan got rehired or
Speaker 2: didn't get fired or whatever, and think of this over
Speaker 2: the break and don't don't talk. We're not gonna talk
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: How many good coaches good coaches and I use that
Speaker 2: word all caps are good dudes, right, don't say don't
Speaker 2: say you know what I'm saying. In my mind, you
Speaker 2: have to be a pain in the neck or I
Speaker 2: want to say, cuss Ward here to be a good coach,
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Speaker 2: makes any sense. Good dudes don't do well, right, But okay,
Speaker 2: we go to ask you, how many of those do
Speaker 2: you know? I don't know many, if any. Okay, let's
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Wind the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera in today with me
Speaker 2: is Cody Richie? You and I should start a show here.
Speaker 2: I like you could. It's fine, but I have real job.
Speaker 6: You have a real job. I mean I'll live right
Speaker 6: down the street. So I didn't know that you moved.
Speaker 6: I could I could pop in it. Yeah, no, great
Speaker 6: here seven eleven up here. I gotta get Henry in
Speaker 6: all with me. We could maybe give Henry some scratch.
Speaker 6: He'd come here for a real job. Yeah, cool, cool, cool.
Speaker 2: You want to go?
Speaker 3: You can do? When do you graduate? And the spring?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Do you want to move back to east? He wants
Speaker 3: to go out west.
Speaker 2: Here still figuring that out.
Speaker 5: I think I'm down for anything, all right, I always
Speaker 5: love Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too cold over there here. Just yeah. So
Speaker 2: let's let's go back to your your daily stuff. You
Speaker 2: talked to Hey, you talked to the president Robins, and
Speaker 2: they responded. How did they respond?
Speaker 3: Dave goes, hey, I'm intrigued, and uh.
Speaker 2: This is two thousand, this is COVID.
Speaker 6: Right, twenty twenty, and he goes, I'm intrigued. And again
Speaker 6: it was Charlie reaching out to me because he loved
Speaker 6: his time here. Charlie, and he said, you know, can
Speaker 6: you can you get us, uh, can you you know,
Speaker 6: get his an audience. I'll go and try my best
Speaker 6: because you keep giving me a ton of credit. I
Speaker 6: don't think I'm as big a hitter as you might think.
Speaker 2: Oh you know you mean me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, but but in the
Speaker 3: very least I tried, and so Steve. This is the text.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a long text.
Speaker 3: That's a long text, and I'm not going to read
Speaker 3: the whole thing.
Speaker 6: But I basically said, hey, I've lived here for for many,
Speaker 6: many many years, support the program as an advertiser. I
Speaker 6: don't at one time as a walk on football player,
Speaker 6: it wasn't very good. It is on a team, and
Speaker 6: I kind of know what football coaches are about and
Speaker 6: what they need to do. And I go, I've lived
Speaker 6: here for thirty three years at the time, this is
Speaker 6: twenty twenty. In my years of Twoston, I've sat back
Speaker 6: and watch other people dose stuff. And I said to this,
Speaker 6: I said, my advice is, you need someone who wants
Speaker 6: to be here, not someone we have to talk about
Speaker 6: staying here. You need a staff that recruits Arizona first.
Speaker 6: And that year in twenty twenty, the four starting quarterbacks
Speaker 6: in the Pac twelve and Big twelve championship game all
Speaker 6: were from Arizona. Because high school football in Arizona big right.
Speaker 6: I said, we office about half the our eye office
Speaker 6: by half the time up in our Scots Sell office,
Speaker 6: and our brand is bad with the.
Speaker 3: High school coaches in the state.
Speaker 6: That's when someone was there and they said, you have
Speaker 6: a lot of friends, a lot of places where to go.
Speaker 6: I'm just texting to give you a name that I
Speaker 6: would guarantee would win. And here's my witness, Kenny Dilleham
Speaker 6: defense coordinated a Florida state along with the most pastors
Speaker 6: savvy football guy Charlie Ragel. And then I said, I
Speaker 6: can only offer one idea. It is this, have a
Speaker 6: conversation with Charlie and Kenny. If you aren't fired up
Speaker 6: and intrigued by what they offer, I'd be shocked. They
Speaker 6: have the blueprint work, ethic, integrity, smarts. But most importantly,
Speaker 6: they know twoson in Arizona. Last, they have some extremely
Speaker 6: heavy hitting friends. Because that's when some of the boosters boosters. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I stake my reputation blah blah blah blah blah. I
Speaker 6: hope you have a Mary Christmas, happy all day blah
Speaker 6: blah blah. And here's a text from my friend Heath
Speaker 6: Ray the light great Heath Ray. And Heath was pushing
Speaker 6: hard for him, so Dave did talk to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And at the time they probably, I mean, in fairness
Speaker 6: to them, Kenny was only thirty at the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then he went and left and went to Oregon
Speaker 3: for the year. Yeah.
Speaker 6: And the reason why I think we could have had
Speaker 6: him is because her was still up at ASU.
Speaker 3: But now that he's there, he'll never leave.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And that was As an Arizona fan, that miss is
Speaker 6: my worst nightmare. It'd almost be like a sundfl fan.
Speaker 6: When Loot was here. Yeah, they tried to like, how
Speaker 6: can we replicate, Oh well, let's hire Bill Freedro but
Speaker 6: there was only one Loot.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, lets go. We got a call on the Hello,
Speaker 2: you're on the air and nine on the ball. Who's
Speaker 2: this Steve?
Speaker 7: How you doing buddy?
Speaker 2: Hey? Rick? How are you good?
Speaker 3: Cody?
Speaker 7: We go back many years and I can't help but
Speaker 7: think of our old friend Dave Sitton.
Speaker 3: This Rick Granelle, Yes, yeah, I Rick, Yeah.
Speaker 7: But uh, you know, you guys were talking about some
Speaker 7: of the best seasons I think when a coach. Owes
Speaker 7: best coaching jobs came after Bobby passed away.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, one definitely.
Speaker 7: And I think, you know, with all the emotional stress
Speaker 7: and everything and that he was under, he really was
Speaker 7: able to set aside his personal aims and brought these
Speaker 7: kids a long way. And I think for me that
Speaker 7: was probably his best coaching performance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I should have won the championship. The foul, well,
Speaker 2: remember that Gilbert got hurt and Luke and so there
Speaker 2: are two dudes playing hard. The reps were kind of
Speaker 2: a little biased. Let me tell you a story real quick, Rick.
Speaker 2: When she passed, he took time away for two months,
Speaker 2: and everyone knows I covered the team pretty religiously then,
Speaker 2: and I said, if he's going to come back, he's
Speaker 2: going to come back now, like two weeks, right, So
Speaker 2: I went and kind of stalked the McHale and and
Speaker 2: him and I had a relationship right for a long time.
Speaker 2: So I went and stocked and found out he was
Speaker 2: in the locker room. He had just finished, he was
Speaker 2: getting ready for practice, and I asked the y SID
Speaker 2: at the time, I'm gonna go and I'm gonna ask
Speaker 2: him if he can interview. And he saw me, and
Speaker 2: he says, come in into the locker room and I
Speaker 2: got an exclusive with Loot about his return. Holy crap.
Speaker 2: So he gave me like twenty minutes, and it was
Speaker 2: fantastic because he was, you know, putting on his stuff
Speaker 2: and he was like, you know, very sad. But Bobby,
Speaker 2: Bobby wanted me to come back. I mean, there was
Speaker 2: no doubt that I was not going to come back.
Speaker 2: She wanted me to come back because but it was like,
Speaker 2: holy crap, he's like your grandfather sitting down with you
Speaker 2: and talking about all this stuff that had just happened.
Speaker 2: And he came back and they were brilliant because Ross
Speaker 2: took over and and you know, it's a little difficult
Speaker 2: for Ross because the guys were kind of whatever. And
Speaker 2: then he rolled with it.
Speaker 7: Well again. And I had become friends with Josh Passner
Speaker 7: and I never intruded on the coach or the team
Speaker 7: or Josh on personal stuff with Coach O. And he
Speaker 7: said to me one time, he says, Coach O is
Speaker 7: digging deeper than he ever has to make sure this
Speaker 7: team goes the wrong way. And I'll never forget that conversation.
Speaker 7: And it's just one of the stories the Tucson. I
Speaker 7: think that we really forget about the historic run that
Speaker 7: he had here.
Speaker 2: So did you, by the way, you got my book?
Speaker 2: Didn't you get a few of my books or my books?
Speaker 7: No, you didn't give me any steeds?
Speaker 2: Well, he take I take it. I taken it with
Speaker 2: a bigger price on Tuesdays.
Speaker 7: And by the way, Cody, Steve's a cheap date for dinner.
Speaker 7: Eat his salad.
Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, you're.
Speaker 2: Looking great, trying to try to slim down. Thank you, Rick,
Speaker 2: thanks for calling in there. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 6: See, yeah, that he was talking about the dinner that Cody.
Speaker 6: Cody was saying, well, we'll all go to dinner.
Speaker 3: We'll get Rick to go. Corey.
Speaker 2: You mean yeah, so let me ask you, Okaye. So
Speaker 2: so Cody, So that's a great story with Dilli Ham
Speaker 2: and it just didn't happen. It just didn't happen. They
Speaker 2: went with Fish and we all know what happened with that,
Speaker 2: did you? And who didn't know Fish was gonna leave?
Speaker 2: Of course everybody knew he was gonna leave right at
Speaker 2: some point.
Speaker 3: And I don't hate him.
Speaker 6: I mean he he brought us back to relevance. I
Speaker 6: went to the game last year Glow. We we donated.
Speaker 6: He got us to buy one hundred tickets up in
Speaker 6: the nosebleeds at the at the bowl game, No, at
Speaker 6: the at for the season taking. Oh, okay for crass. Okay,
Speaker 6: we did his camps. We did all of them. You know,
Speaker 6: I got to meet Rich Roddie knew all that. You
Speaker 6: know a lot of the coaches. But you asked the
Speaker 6: question before the break about well coaches a good guy?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 6: The best guy, I mean, coach told me he's not
Speaker 6: asking to coach Olson was a good guy. The best
Speaker 6: guy is Brent Brennan. Brent Brennan is an unbelievably good guy.
Speaker 6: And when I figured this out is last year at
Speaker 6: the Phoenix Open, we were up there and Erica asked us,
Speaker 6: Erica Barnes asked if we would go out to dinner
Speaker 6: with them. So a bunch of us went to dinner
Speaker 6: with them, and then we went out and had a
Speaker 6: beer at like a bar.
Speaker 3: And he's just a regular guy. He's just like seems
Speaker 3: like a friend.
Speaker 6: But when my buddy Heath, who was at that dinner
Speaker 6: passed away two months later, Brent was at his memorial service.
Speaker 6: You know, and he wasn't there. He was just there
Speaker 6: as a person paying respect and mad respect.
Speaker 3: So I heard some.
Speaker 6: People saying, well, he wasn't in the community. I think
Speaker 6: he did more little things with people, just one on
Speaker 6: one that were authentic. Maybe not, and not that Jed
Speaker 6: is not a fake guy. If I was a fortune
Speaker 6: five hundred CEO of of IBM or something like that
Speaker 6: and and need to hire a new president, Jed would
Speaker 6: be the guy, or if I was on the board
Speaker 6: of directors, because he's he's driven, he's he's he's he's
Speaker 6: a plan, he knows the buttons to push, he's he's
Speaker 6: very smart. Although I think I would love to have
Speaker 6: a private you have a guy like you talked to
Speaker 6: him and say, do you wish you would have stayed
Speaker 6: one more year?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, let me let me say this to you. But
Speaker 2: remember my question, though, how many good, good dudes are
Speaker 2: good coaches. We don't know this about Brendan.
Speaker 6: Yet, right, He was a good coach at San Jose
Speaker 6: and he did a lot with because I know that
Speaker 6: conference pretty well, he did a lot.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Yeah.
Speaker 6: I know, but you know what, like I don't know
Speaker 6: because most coaches have an edge to him. They have
Speaker 6: to have an edge too. Sean had an edge to him.
Speaker 6: He was a nice guy. He had more edge than anybody, right.
Speaker 6: And and what he did is sometimes as coaches or
Speaker 6: leaders or whatever, you start thinking like who's out to
Speaker 6: get me?
Speaker 3: And your circle gets really, really real good.
Speaker 2: And that was Sean.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And and somebody told me a long time ago, keep
Speaker 6: your circle tight, and I'm like, maybe circle yeah, even
Speaker 6: in business. And I'm like, no, like that as many friends,
Speaker 6: you know, as possible.
Speaker 2: You a people person, I mean, and you're in a
Speaker 2: business where you have to be, Yeah, you have to be.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm in a business that you have to be.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not coming on the show and people
Speaker 2: say negative. Yeah, I'm telling good guys. Lou was a
Speaker 2: good guy. But he was very demanding, very demanding, and
Speaker 2: and and if you disappointed him, you were it was bad.
Speaker 6: To me, it looked like but you have to think
Speaker 6: about like a football coach, NFL coach, they have to
Speaker 6: cut people. So you can disappoint people like Pete Carrolese
Speaker 6: seemed like he was a good guy, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, but we don't know behind the scenes.
Speaker 6: We don't know behind the scenes, but authentically, behind the scenes.
Speaker 3: Coach told me it was a good man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, great man.
Speaker 3: I didn't know.
Speaker 6: Coach cameell very well, you knew and probably really no, No,
Speaker 6: I didn't know. He's supposed to be a good guy.
Speaker 3: Brent. Though.
Speaker 6: Last week my wife Patsy asked me to go down
Speaker 6: with our kids and she wanted us to go work
Speaker 6: at the Gospel Rescue Mission. It's not like I do
Speaker 6: that every year, true, we did it this year. We're
Speaker 6: out there him and out turkeys and stuff like that
Speaker 6: and food. I guess who is right there in line
Speaker 6: doing it too, Brent Brennan, right before they issue.
Speaker 2: That's funny because you don't hear about that stuff.
Speaker 6: No, And it's like he's down there and probably a
Speaker 6: lot of those people in their lot in life didn't
Speaker 6: even know.
Speaker 2: Who knew he was right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's funny because when I met with Tommy when he
Speaker 2: first got here a few months into it. You know,
Speaker 2: Tommy replaces these guys, right, uh. And he we went
Speaker 2: to lunch, He took me to lunch, and so we
Speaker 2: went and we went and he's gonna help you blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. They didn't have any idea who he was
Speaker 2: or whatever. He pulled out his card. It was it
Speaker 2: was like, I said, God, that's refreshing.
Speaker 3: But now they probably do.
Speaker 6: Oh of course, of course, but but it's a refreshing
Speaker 6: He's a good guy, don't you think he is? But
Speaker 6: he can also tell it. He's he's got an edge
Speaker 6: to him.
Speaker 3: Now he does.
Speaker 2: He has to have an edge to him. If he
Speaker 2: doesn't have an edge to him this, this team could
Speaker 2: be in trouble. But I think doing he needs to
Speaker 2: have an edge with him.
Speaker 3: He's got to get sense of humor. Though.
Speaker 6: You know what I remember we got a ride back
Speaker 6: on the team plane after we lost to Houston that
Speaker 6: first year, in that magical year, and he's walking on
Speaker 6: and here he has a T shirt on, different than
Speaker 6: Loot with the sport and he walks up to my
Speaker 6: friend and I and he's like, you guys still like
Speaker 6: me because it was his first big DECI like, of course,
Speaker 6: he goes, he goes, we got our butts kicked my
Speaker 6: guy wearing freaking sweatpants.
Speaker 3: It was Kelvin Satan. But I'm gonna learn from this game.
Speaker 3: So what I liked about Tommy is he's always trying
Speaker 3: to better himself.
Speaker 2: Sure learn yeah, no, and he says all the right things.
Speaker 2: He's a normal dude. He's just a normal dude. I'm
Speaker 2: hoping that he has an edge to him, because that's
Speaker 2: what this teams are. His team's need to get beyond
Speaker 2: with the guy to.
Speaker 6: Have it as the head coach, you better have an
Speaker 6: assistant and if you want to So this is if
Speaker 6: if I ever come back on, because he asked me
Speaker 6: if I sure, of course, spend two hours talking about
Speaker 6: a uh uh dinner dinner slash beer, just going out
Speaker 6: having a beer with a guy about four years ago
Speaker 6: over in San Diego, Kevin O'Neill.
Speaker 2: Oh god, oh god. If you talk about an edge
Speaker 2: to him, yeah, that was too much edge. But he goes,
Speaker 2: You know what, if I'm such a bad guy, he goes.
Speaker 2: You know how many he goes? You know how many
Speaker 2: weddings I was in a former course seventeen. If you
Speaker 2: want a loyal dude, he's that dude. But what do
Speaker 2: you think Luke brought him in for that purpose?
Speaker 3: Exactly?
Speaker 2: He wanted to. He was going to be the hammer
Speaker 2: to Loot's you know, not hammer.
Speaker 3: He said.
Speaker 6: He goes one time he was cussing and swearing and
Speaker 6: just carrying on and goes, would you kiss your mother
Speaker 6: with that mouth? And he goes, that's gross, coach who
Speaker 6: kissed your own mom? So he always had the sense
Speaker 6: of humor. That coach also was such a gentleman. And Kevin,
Speaker 6: but I like, like Kevin at that camp where people
Speaker 6: that don't like him or love him.
Speaker 2: Yeah he was, but he was always He's.
Speaker 3: A pretty fun guy. But you know, yeah, he had
Speaker 3: he had He definitely had that.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well I remember when I said a good guy,
Speaker 2: who's a good coach. The debate is whether he was
Speaker 2: a good coach. I think he was a.
Speaker 3: Bitter even a good guy to some people.
Speaker 2: Right right, it's very very rare enough.
Speaker 6: Since we're talking about basketball and sports and stuff and
Speaker 6: he's kind of reminiscing. I asked him who, and and
Speaker 6: our conversation was just like this. I just asked him
Speaker 6: tons of questions. I'm like, who's your favorite player you
Speaker 6: ever coached at any level, NBA anything? Just guess Steve No,
Speaker 6: Sean No, I don't know. Matt Milbach, Oh the dude,
Speaker 6: you know what?
Speaker 2: You know? Who has an end to him? Do you
Speaker 2: never know? Yes, exactly. That's so funny you say that
Speaker 2: because invariably when I asked the same question, it's Matt Milblok.
Speaker 2: He's got this, he's got this something that you know,
Speaker 2: little opie looking dude. But he wanted to kick your ass. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what you need. That's and that's what that's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. If you can be oh, hey, our shocks
Speaker 2: and didn't want to beat that crap up.
Speaker 3: I always thought Matt would be a phenomenal coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've talked to him about that. Why what the
Speaker 2: headache coach? Yeah, and he would have an ads to.
Speaker 2: Corey would too, because he hates to lose. That's what
Speaker 2: you have to have. You gotta hate to lose. I
Speaker 2: hate to lose knowing I'm gonna if you and I
Speaker 2: played and we've never really competed against, exposed to, I
Speaker 2: want to beat the hell. I hate that crap. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I hate that crap. Are we good to go? We
Speaker 2: gotta go. We're pretty over. Thanks, Thanks Cody, I appreciate
Speaker 2: your time. This is fantastic.
Speaker 14: Thanks