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<v Speaker 1>Forty four degrees. But that's all going to change. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>goodness sakes, let's see we have on the line here.

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe we do have Chief Chuck Hoskins Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>From Cherokee Nation.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing, cheap, Tom, I'm doing great yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I get the biggest charge out of our conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>How's that for an opener.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great opener. Because we've got dollars for charging stations.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be able to charge anything you need.

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<v Speaker 1>And tell us how this all came about. This is

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<v Speaker 1>this is not a cheap This is an eighty million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar trust settlement.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, eighty million dollar trust settlement. This is significant and

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<v Speaker 2>so a context in history is really important here, Tom,

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<v Speaker 2>So primarily during the twentieth century, but not exclusively, but

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<v Speaker 2>primarily during the twentieth century, think about what was going on.

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<v Speaker 2>The federal government had suppressed the Cherokee Nation's ability to

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<v Speaker 2>self govern almost out of existence. So the Cherokee Nation,

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<v Speaker 2>on behalf of the Cherokee people, has various natural resources timber,

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<v Speaker 2>coal land on which leases were let. Who is supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to manage those resources? Not the Cherokee Nations Because we

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<v Speaker 2>were suppressed the Government of the United States as our trustee.

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<v Speaker 2>Fast forward to the early part of the twenty first century.

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<v Speaker 2>My predecessor, Bill John Baker says, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 2>bet the United States mismanaged it. I bet they can't

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<v Speaker 2>even account for these resources. And it's just like any

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<v Speaker 2>business deal. Tom. Think about this, if you put your

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<v Speaker 2>affairs in the hands of somebody and they were supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to take care of them, and they did, and boy,

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<v Speaker 2>there'd be some legal consequences. That's what Chief Baker was

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<v Speaker 2>concerned about. In about twenty sixteen, he asked his Attorney

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<v Speaker 2>General at the time, Todd henbry Go, ask the United

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<v Speaker 2>States to account for all those resources. Tom surprised surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>The Department of the Interior could not do it. Could

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<v Speaker 2>not do it because they mismanaged it. They did this

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<v Speaker 2>with other tribes. We filed a lawsuit refiled in twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>If people look at the record, they think, well, this

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<v Speaker 2>happened in nineteen. Third team we refiled it in a

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<v Speaker 2>different court. We bent the United States to a settlement.

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<v Speaker 2>Not an easy thing to do, Tom, And what we

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<v Speaker 2>agreed to was eighty million dollars in damages, again for

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<v Speaker 2>not accounting for what happened to all the cold, the timber,

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<v Speaker 2>the land that was leased for various reasons, perhaps cattle.

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps Hey, we did a lot of really deep dive

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<v Speaker 2>diving into archival records. I mean, you had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people on the front lines who kind of toiled

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<v Speaker 2>an anonymity that were in the archives of the United

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<v Speaker 2>States looking at all these different records and saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this is evidence of mismanagement. So here we are today

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<v Speaker 2>with an eighty million dollars settlement. It's a great day

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<v Speaker 2>in history, and it's really good for the United States

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of cleanse itself of another wrong, an injury

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<v Speaker 2>towards an Indian tribe who were very pleased with. But

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<v Speaker 2>just to put a sort of an EndNote on this

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<v Speaker 2>eighty million dollar settlement, here's what we planned to do.

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<v Speaker 2>The Deputy Chief and I Brown want our center, legislation,

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<v Speaker 2>our council that says, look, this was a settlement about

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<v Speaker 2>resolving an injustice through most of the twentieth century. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>make an investment in justice in the twenty first century

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<v Speaker 2>for the cherkerenation. So we're going to build a judicial

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<v Speaker 2>center in taal Quah. It's going to house our Supreme court,

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<v Speaker 2>the primary district court that we have our Attorney General's

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<v Speaker 2>office mcgird as you know, and we've talked about this

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<v Speaker 2>many times on your show, has really tested the Cherito

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<v Speaker 2>conation in terms of not only exercising sovereignty, not just

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<v Speaker 2>in the academic sense, but in the real sense. That

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<v Speaker 2>means people, that means buildings, that means justice, justice system.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got to have more space. We're going to build

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<v Speaker 2>a state of the art Justice center. We're also going

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<v Speaker 2>to build a district courthouse. We're setting aside some of

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<v Speaker 2>these dollars for a district courthouse to build out in

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<v Speaker 2>the field, so to speak, out elsewhere in the reservation,

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<v Speaker 2>because we've got growing pains and a solution to that

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<v Speaker 2>as this settlement. Glad to talk about though, the charging

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<v Speaker 2>station charging station funds, which is a really significant investment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to go back to the federal your

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<v Speaker 1>federal buildings. That's cool. What part of Taliqua are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to be on. Are you going to be on

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<v Speaker 1>some of the historic parks or maybe some other places

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<v Speaker 1>in town that Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Justice Center itself will be situated near the

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<v Speaker 2>complex and Tahlequa. People who have visited here including yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>will know that we've got a government complex kind of

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<v Speaker 2>on the outskirts of tallequal in an area known as

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<v Speaker 2>park Hill really, and then we've got historic buildings in

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<v Speaker 2>the downtown area. We'll be out of the government complex

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<v Speaker 2>where we're building up a new public safety center. We're

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<v Speaker 2>building up the Mankiller Park that we've talked about on

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<v Speaker 2>your show, the existing complex, which we've added to. If

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<v Speaker 2>people haven't been the Tallequi in a few years, if

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<v Speaker 2>they go by the complex, they'll really be blown away

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<v Speaker 2>at the amount of construction. This will be construction that

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<v Speaker 2>will have to be planned. It's in the planning phases,

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<v Speaker 2>has to be approved by our council, and then we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be you know, we'll be about the business of turning dirt,

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<v Speaker 2>but it'll be out here. And I've seen the next

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<v Speaker 2>few years, we'll see this justice center. I may not

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<v Speaker 2>be chief at the time tom when this is done,

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<v Speaker 2>but I hope they invite me to the grand opening.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be nice. Yeah, Okay, now on to the electricity.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Charges. So you know, this is an amazing week

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<v Speaker 2>in the chery Co nation. It started with an announcement

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<v Speaker 2>of ten point seven million dollars and it's ending with

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<v Speaker 2>an eighty million dollars settlement. So the ten point seven

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars was going to sort of be our top

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<v Speaker 2>story and tell the trust settlement. But I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to understate the significance of the ten point seven million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars from the US Department of Transportation to its stall

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and twelve publicly accessible electric charging stations across

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<v Speaker 2>twelve communities. This is a big investment. It's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of dollars. It makes us I think forward looking in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of where we're going in this country. The twelve

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<v Speaker 2>sites they're closest to Bartlesville include the Koyschool Clinic and Oceanleda,

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<v Speaker 2>the Cherokee Casino in South Coffeeville, and then a little

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<v Speaker 2>further down the road at the Will Rogers Health Center

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<v Speaker 2>in No Water. Throughout the reservation, you'll see these at

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<v Speaker 2>our business sites or our healthcare facilities. Here's the thing, Tom,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been watching the social media response to this, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's mixed. It's a lot of people that are excited

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<v Speaker 2>and there are some people that take a dim view

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<v Speaker 2>of ev charging green energy. There's plenty of room for

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<v Speaker 2>debate and for all that. Here's what I'd like folks

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<v Speaker 2>to know. When the United States said they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>spend millions and millions of dollars, really billions of dollars

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<v Speaker 2>on ev charging stations, all I thought was, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to bring those federal tax dollars, are hard earned tax dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to bring them home. We're going to bring

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<v Speaker 2>them home to Northeast Oklahoma, to Cherokee Nation, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to put Oklahoma's to work building these charging stations.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where my mind when is we're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>let these dollars go somewhere or else come because if

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<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't have applied for this grant, these dollars are

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<v Speaker 2>going somewhere else. Maybe they're going to California, maybe they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to the East Coast. They're coming home. That's important

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<v Speaker 2>to me. The other thing is this, this is where

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<v Speaker 2>the economy is moving. This is where transportation is moving.

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<v Speaker 2>We can debate whether we like it or not, we

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<v Speaker 2>can debate the merits of it. The trends seem clear.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where the economy is moving. I want Cherokeynation

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<v Speaker 2>to be on the leading edge of that, not the

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<v Speaker 2>back edge. Of that, and we're going to put some

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<v Speaker 2>people to work. We're going to bring ten million dollars home.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be ahead of much of the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the country. If I could make one more comment though,

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<v Speaker 2>on charging Stessons, Tom, some folks will say, well, boy,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not a lot of ed cars around here. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>telling you, when you're talking about tourists driving through Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 2>driving past the Neda, for example, where we've got this

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<v Speaker 2>amazing cultural center, I want them to pull off the road,

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<v Speaker 2>charge that vehicle and go in and shopping Benita, or

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<v Speaker 2>I want them to be stopping in Tahlequah. I want

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<v Speaker 2>them to stop in Noah. Folks got people across the

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<v Speaker 2>country with electric vehicles. I don't want them to pass

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma by it. I want them to stop in Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 2>spend some money, boost our economy. Cherokee Nations on the

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<v Speaker 2>leading edge of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good, Very good. We have a new acting Marshal,

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<v Speaker 1>can you tell us about that?

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<v Speaker 2>We do so our longtime Marshall, Shannon Buell, who is

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<v Speaker 2>probably one of the longest serving Executive Branch officials in

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<v Speaker 2>the history of the Cherokee Nation. That's a big statement.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom but he served a long time. He did well,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's a job that is very demanding, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four to seven. So Shannon Buell is retiring, but

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<v Speaker 2>not really retiring because he's going to consult with Cherokee

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<v Speaker 2>Nation businesses on security matters. I'm talking about our businesses,

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<v Speaker 2>Tom that spanned the globe, span the country, multi billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollar portfolio. Security is an important issue. He's going to

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<v Speaker 2>handle that. The Council authorized me to name an acting

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<v Speaker 2>Marshal for or not to exceed a year. That man

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<v Speaker 2>is Daniel me Daniel Means an eighteen year veteran of

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<v Speaker 2>the Marshall Service. He's a decorated combat Marine. This guy

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<v Speaker 2>has been tested many times in his life professionally in

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<v Speaker 2>the military. He knows what he's doing. He's going to

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<v Speaker 2>guide this department for the better part of this year.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to do a search for a Marshall. Daniel

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<v Speaker 2>will be considered, but we're going to search far and

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<v Speaker 2>wide for our next Marshall, which is a key position.

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<v Speaker 2>People should understand. That's the key law enforcement officer in

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<v Speaker 2>a growing law enforcement agency that has always been regarded

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<v Speaker 2>I think as top notch, really the best in the business,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's growing and growing and growing because, as we've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about on this show, Tom, in the post McGirt era,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got responsibility for every square inch of a seven

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<v Speaker 2>thousand square mile reservation. Daniel meets up for the job,

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<v Speaker 2>we're all excited for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand you have a new partnership with FEMA.

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<v Speaker 2>We do. We do have a partnership with SEMA. We've

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<v Speaker 2>worked with FEMA for a long time. And anybody who

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<v Speaker 2>in the Bartlesville area, you know, there was a tornado

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<v Speaker 2>last spring, at least in that part of Oklahoma, and

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<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of damage done, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was a couple of weeks later, tornadoes hit Claremore.

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<v Speaker 2>When that happens and it went through Mas County in

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<v Speaker 2>places like that, when that happens, Tom, here's the reality.

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<v Speaker 2>The first responders are your friends and neighbors or yourself

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<v Speaker 2>though those are really the first responders. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>first responders in a professional capacity are local folks typically,

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<v Speaker 2>but it takes all different layers of governments and jurisdictions

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<v Speaker 2>to really come in and do response and recovery. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what we have seen time and time again. So we've

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<v Speaker 2>worked with FEMA. We're taking it to the next level.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the first time in history that a tribe

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<v Speaker 2>has signed an inter governmental agreement with THEMA. What does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean. It means that there'll be more opportunities for

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<v Speaker 2>our emergency management team to get the kind of training

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<v Speaker 2>that FEMA provides at a really high level. Significantly, it

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<v Speaker 2>means that there'll be a stronger working relationship when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to responding to No only disasters that hit our

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<v Speaker 2>region Northeast Oklahoma, but we've got such a great team

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<v Speaker 2>Tom that will work with THEMA elsewhere. I mean, just

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<v Speaker 2>a few months ago we saw a hurricane move inland

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States. It really shocked me, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's the way things are moving in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>all hands on deck in this country. And some of

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<v Speaker 2>the best hands on deck COOM turned out to be

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<v Speaker 2>the Cherokee Nation Emergency Management Team. That's why we've got

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<v Speaker 2>this first in the history of the country agreement with THEEMA.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good thing. It means better resources for all

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, very big news. Indeed, A question that some folks

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<v Speaker 1>have had around our area. Is that and we brought

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<v Speaker 1>this up before on the show. Is how soon will

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<v Speaker 1>try Key Nation be building a casino near closure to

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<v Speaker 1>Bartlefield with wonder remote is great?

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, no specific plans yet. So here's what

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<v Speaker 2>we did, and there was actually news yesterday or at

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<v Speaker 2>least an action yesterday. We purchased land. We talked about

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<v Speaker 2>this on your show before in Bartlesville. We went through

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<v Speaker 2>a process called placing that land in trust for gaming

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<v Speaker 2>purposes tom That takes a route through the Bureau of

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<v Speaker 2>Indian Affairs, up through the Department of Interior, a sign

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<v Speaker 2>off by the National inning Gaming Commission. You're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>levels of federal bureaucracy that you can just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>hurry up and wait most of the time, which we did.

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<v Speaker 2>It requires some local notice, which we did as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That was approved just excuse me, earlier this week, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was placed in trust filed there in Washington County.

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<v Speaker 2>That means we could tomorrow come in and game. We're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to come any game tomorrow tom In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have plans on the books right now for

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<v Speaker 2>what gaming could look like, but we do have that

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<v Speaker 2>piece of land where we could do it, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the impediment of what is often a year's long

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<v Speaker 2>process to get land and trust. In this case, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's maybe a little over a year that it

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<v Speaker 2>took to get land in trust. But if in the

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<v Speaker 2>world of business, you've got to be ready to move quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>in the world of Indian gaming, nothing moves quickly. So

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<v Speaker 2>we had to get that bureaucratic process out of the

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<v Speaker 2>way so that we can keep looking at the market

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<v Speaker 2>decide when to build in Bartlesville. We know where. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just a question of when. I don't have anything to

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<v Speaker 2>report though on the win, and if I did, I

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<v Speaker 2>would and I'll say you what when I do, we

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<v Speaker 2>should do it on the show tongue, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds great. The where is just south of just

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<v Speaker 1>south of Barlsfield? Correct in the game, right, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, that's correct. And one other thing I should let

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<v Speaker 2>folks know. People when a casino is potentially coming in

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<v Speaker 2>the community, there's all sorts of questions and not everybody's happy,

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<v Speaker 2>but many people are. What I would say is look

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<v Speaker 2>at our other properties. If people want to see what

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<v Speaker 2>the experience is, not just the gaming experience, what's the

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<v Speaker 2>experience for the community. If you go to Katusa where

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<v Speaker 2>the hard rock is. Boy, I can remember and that

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<v Speaker 2>was almost a tent for Bingo and now it's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best casinos in the market. But here's what

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<v Speaker 2>happened around that area. Economic development, jobs, increase in tax

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<v Speaker 2>revenue for the community. That's what happens everywhere that we invest.

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<v Speaker 2>It would happen in Bartlesville if we were to invest.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want people to know we care about the community.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not some outside corporation just coming in to PLoP

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<v Speaker 2>down a casino. We live here, Tom, we live in Bartlesville.

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<v Speaker 2>We want it to be a thriving community.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeez, it's always great to talk with you. And we'll

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<v Speaker 1>do it again next month.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it again, Tom, take care, but all right, Chief.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Hoskin Jr. Principal Chief of Jerokee Nation right here

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<v Speaker 1>on Kaewa. Thank you all righty, And we've
