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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think

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<v Speaker 2>when we.

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<v Speaker 1>Are getting off our show. Idiot, the kids are crying

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<v Speaker 1>or turn off.

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<v Speaker 2>Their countries are.

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<v Speaker 1>Screwing it up. Goldplea inter murals, Brother, Goldpleay intermurals. They're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. Who's

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<v Speaker 1>the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Nick Coffee?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get it started.

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<v Speaker 4>Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome in Coffee and Company,

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<v Speaker 4>fueled by Thornton's.

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<v Speaker 2>That's us.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's the name of the show. My name is

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<v Speaker 4>Nick Coffee, Alsto Montgomery's alongside. You get the name, I assume,

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<v Speaker 4>and you guys are our company. So sit back, relax,

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<v Speaker 4>make yourself at home, let's have some fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you what. This is January thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 4>So it feels really weird to say this, but I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of feel like the new year's actually starting now.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we've had the holidays, which were great, nice

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<v Speaker 4>to get time off, but that leads to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>short weeks, not all you know, I'm out a routine.

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<v Speaker 4>And then once we came back from you know, from

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<v Speaker 4>the holidays, we ended up having a week last week

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<v Speaker 4>that it was a full work week for us, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was just different with the snow and having to

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<v Speaker 4>do the show remotely a couple of days, and kids

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<v Speaker 4>being out of school. So thirteen days into twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm hopeful that this is in fact a normal And

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<v Speaker 4>usually I wouldn't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a normal.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's nice to be able to, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to do something I love, but let's be real, like,

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<v Speaker 4>if you can get a short week, you can extend

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<v Speaker 4>the weekend. I mean, that's always what you prefer. But

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<v Speaker 4>I am very much, very much in need of routine

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<v Speaker 4>and structure, and I'm hopeful that we get that as

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<v Speaker 4>we get this thing started. And it feels like since

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<v Speaker 4>the last time I was here, which of course was

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<v Speaker 4>just Friday at six o'clock is when I walked out

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<v Speaker 4>of here, that seems like it was five weeks ago

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<v Speaker 4>for some reason. Yeah, well for me, and usually you

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<v Speaker 4>would want the weekend to be, you know, great, but

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<v Speaker 4>we left on Friday, so as soon as the show ended,

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<v Speaker 4>I finished what I finished up what I had to

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<v Speaker 4>do here, and I was going to be headed to Pittsburgh,

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<v Speaker 4>Well Columbus for the night, and then Pittsburgh on Saturday

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<v Speaker 4>for the game. Well, I knew on the way in

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<v Speaker 4>to do the show Friday afternoon that that it was

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<v Speaker 4>it was snowing quite a bit and it didn't seem

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<v Speaker 4>like it was going to be stopping. So I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>really do any looking into the weather while we were

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<v Speaker 4>on the air because I feel like had I seen

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<v Speaker 4>that the roads were or had I heard the reports

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<v Speaker 4>that the roads were terrible, then I would have been

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<v Speaker 4>stressing and that would have impacted the show. So I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, look, you know, there's nothing I can do

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<v Speaker 4>So let's just, you know, wait till the show ends

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<v Speaker 4>and evaluate the situation. So I hopped in my car

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<v Speaker 4>left and the roads downtown were awful. I was worried

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<v Speaker 4>if I was going to be able to even get

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, that's a tricky exit, right.

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<v Speaker 4>My car's not My car's not super great and snow

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<v Speaker 4>and what usually gets me is that it's not like

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<v Speaker 4>it's steep. But if you don't have any momentum and

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<v Speaker 4>you're like in traffic going slow. In fact, we're good

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<v Speaker 4>now because the roads are fine. But that's the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>that's those to me, that's the most obvious reason why

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<v Speaker 4>people end up getting stuck in weird situations is because

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<v Speaker 4>they just go slow. If you keep, if you maintain

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<v Speaker 4>but you know there's no traction because there's ice and snow,

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<v Speaker 4>that's when you're gonna get stuck. And anyways, I knew

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<v Speaker 4>we were not gonna be able to make the trip,

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<v Speaker 4>but I I just you know, I didn't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to accept defeat.

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<v Speaker 4>So I end up getting to southern Indiana where my

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<v Speaker 4>dad was because my dad had both my son and

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<v Speaker 4>were going and the plane was again I go pick

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<v Speaker 4>them up after the show. We had Columbus get there

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<v Speaker 4>about I don't know now, I'm thirty ten o'clock, get

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<v Speaker 4>some sleep, get up the next morning, and we'd be

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<v Speaker 4>in Pittsburgh and plenty of time for the game at noon. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>we we all got in the car and we made

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<v Speaker 4>it maybe a mile away from his home, and he said,

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<v Speaker 4>do it. Thankfully he was willing to do it and say, son,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think we're gonna be able to make this

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<v Speaker 4>and probably one of the most I shouldn't say the

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<v Speaker 4>most because I don't know the entire state, but I'll

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<v Speaker 4>seventy one didn't get a whole lot of love when

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<v Speaker 4>it comes to being treated. I mean, it's that stretch

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<v Speaker 4>between really Oldham County to Cincinnati. It's a really desolate

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<v Speaker 4>area and it's just kind of a kind of a

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<v Speaker 4>ghost town. So we expected the roads to be even

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<v Speaker 4>worse as we kept going, and we were driving like

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<v Speaker 4>we were driving with the snow store, meaning the more

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<v Speaker 4>north we were going, we were going with the snow.

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<v Speaker 4>So we decided to call off Friday and just say, look,

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<v Speaker 4>let's see if we can get up in the morning

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<v Speaker 4>at like three thirty and check and see what the

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<v Speaker 4>roads are like, see if there's you know, just do

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<v Speaker 4>the wayte thing and see if there's any traffic at

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<v Speaker 4>that point, any accidents, and try to just do a

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<v Speaker 4>straight shot from Louisville to Pittsburgh for a noon tip.

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<v Speaker 2>And sure enough, that's what we did.

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<v Speaker 4>We got up the house at like four o'clock when

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<v Speaker 4>picked up my dad and we made the straight shot

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<v Speaker 4>up there, got there just in time. So Saturday was

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<v Speaker 4>fun being at the game, which we'll talk a lot

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<v Speaker 4>all about that. But the reason I mentioned it feels

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<v Speaker 4>like it's been so long since I've been here is

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<v Speaker 4>just because it's been like I feel like I everything

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<v Speaker 4>that took place since I left Friday, I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>for all of that, it would have needed to take

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<v Speaker 4>place in a five day window and not you know,

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<v Speaker 4>two and a half days essentially.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was a lot of fun. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>one hell of a trek too. Yeah, it was. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it was.

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<v Speaker 4>And I love Pittsburgh, by the way, and I knew

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<v Speaker 4>we'd have fun and enjoyed the trip spending time with family.

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<v Speaker 2>We do it every year.

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<v Speaker 4>But like I knew Louisville could lose it. I was

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<v Speaker 4>gonna tell myself, Hey, no matter what, let's just have fun, enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 4>It should still be a great experience. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they won, And I wish I could give you some

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<v Speaker 4>fresh new perspective and thoughts on this team. But kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like when the previous regime, it was it was

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<v Speaker 4>a rerun. You thought we were doing the same show. Ever,

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<v Speaker 4>or maybe we were replaying the same thing every day

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<v Speaker 4>because it was the same reaction, and of course there

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<v Speaker 4>was really nothing else that could be said whenever it

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<v Speaker 4>was going terribly wrong. This time around, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>could keep gushing over this team, how much I love them,

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<v Speaker 4>how much I have enjoyed this ride so far, how

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<v Speaker 4>much I'm starting to think they're actually not just doing

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<v Speaker 4>pretty good for what they have to work with and

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<v Speaker 4>really bouncing back in a big way from a few

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<v Speaker 4>disastrous seasons. Like all those things are true, but I

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<v Speaker 4>now actually think this team might be pretty good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know that for certain, and I really don't care.

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<v Speaker 4>I just thought I'm gonna enjoy watching them the rest

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<v Speaker 4>of the way, and they have really mean, it felt

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<v Speaker 4>like over the weekend. And Austin, I think you can

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<v Speaker 4>attest to this because you you spend a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>time on social media as well. This win against Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 4>that felt like not a huge statement for Louisville that

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<v Speaker 4>here we go, we're about to, you know, be a

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<v Speaker 4>top twenty team and nothing like that. It was more

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why, because Pittsburgh is a good team.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a good you know, it was a game they

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<v Speaker 4>could have been lost. Pittsburgh on paper was by far

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<v Speaker 4>and away the best opportunity left on the schedule to

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<v Speaker 4>get a win that had values. So maybe it does

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<v Speaker 4>make sense, but usually, you know, Pittsburgh, it's just not

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<v Speaker 4>the kind of game that would get the attention that

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<v Speaker 4>Louisville got. And it's a good thing because I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like after Saturday, just an anybody who follows college basketball

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<v Speaker 4>that has a voice that or covers college basketball, I

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<v Speaker 4>should say that has a voice that's big on social media.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe they work for ESPN, maybe they work for FS one,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever it may be. I feel like nearly all of

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<v Speaker 4>them made some kind of a comment about how Pat

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<v Speaker 4>Kelsey like is doing such a phenomenal job at Louisville,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think we've all known that, we felt it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been great the last few weeks and clearly I

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<v Speaker 4>think he's got respect up to that point, meaning I

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<v Speaker 4>think people are aware, you know, Louisville's.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, who knows how good they're going to be.

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<v Speaker 4>But man, they're no longer being led by Kenny Payne

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<v Speaker 4>and they're going to be much better off without him

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<v Speaker 4>and Kelsey like whatn't as if they were getting disrespected,

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<v Speaker 4>but man, it really felt like Saturday was the moment

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<v Speaker 4>where everybody was like, Okay, this is kind of crazy

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<v Speaker 4>this Louisville team. Not only are they doing better than

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<v Speaker 4>they did before and Pat Kelsey's making it work despite

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<v Speaker 4>the injuries, but I feel like there was a level

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<v Speaker 4>of respect for this team and what Pat Kelsey's doing

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<v Speaker 4>that was earned on Saturday that wasn't quite to that

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<v Speaker 4>level until they got that win against Pitt.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're right, I know, Seth Greenberg was showing a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of love. I know, who's our guy, John Rostein.

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<v Speaker 3>This is March guy. I don't know if you want

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<v Speaker 3>to take his opinion for granted or whatnot, but they're

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<v Speaker 3>getting a lot of love. Because I like to after

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<v Speaker 3>like a Louisville win like that, I like to type

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<v Speaker 3>that in on the search bar on X and see

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<v Speaker 3>what everybody's saying, and it seemed to be like a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of praise for Pat Kelsey. And I've honestly even

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<v Speaker 3>forgotten about some of the injuries and some of the

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<v Speaker 3>stuff they've been able to do with it just because

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<v Speaker 3>they have guys, because they've made you forget it.

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<v Speaker 4>They've made Yeah, they've made you realize with these wins,

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<v Speaker 4>with how hard they're playing, who they're beating, they've made

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<v Speaker 4>you forget that this wasn't supposed to happen. Not only

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<v Speaker 4>the results themselves, but they're looking like a really, really

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<v Speaker 4>good team as far as just being really physical. They're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna work their ass off on defense, They're gonna make

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<v Speaker 4>timely plays. They've got guys that can make some big shots.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right, I at times forget and it's there's no

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<v Speaker 4>need to to, you know, and it's it's if it

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<v Speaker 4>makes you feel even better about this team in this

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<v Speaker 4>situation than not yourself out. But I'm no longer thinking like, well, man,

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<v Speaker 4>just imagine if we had we had caseon pryor just

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<v Speaker 4>we played some of those teams earlier this year that

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<v Speaker 4>you know, that we weren't in this position. Maybe if

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<v Speaker 4>we played them now it'd be different. Like I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>really thinking about that because I yeah, all that's true,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think as is today, they're they're pretty damn

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<v Speaker 3>Man m absolutely, and just some of the stuff that's

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<v Speaker 3>when you mentioned at the top of the show, like

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<v Speaker 3>how it's just gonna sound like a broken record. But

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<v Speaker 3>just even in the last two or three games, let's

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<v Speaker 3>just go to say, the last two games Clemson and

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<v Speaker 3>Mebey had a they're making most out of their minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>And that just wasn't a thing that we were seeing

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<v Speaker 3>once we saw that everybody was out, when we were

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<v Speaker 3>talking about Johnson, when we were talking about out. Prior

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<v Speaker 3>being out, it would just seem like we're left with

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<v Speaker 3>six seven guys. But now there's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>depth on the bench, and it's making them play a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit harder, and it's making them reach a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit better of a potential that we thought Louisville would

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<v Speaker 3>be of course the ceiling strength, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, and this is what makes it even more fun

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<v Speaker 4>for me just to kind of sit back and really,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean if they somehow like fall apart and like

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<v Speaker 4>don't end up making the tournament, which I guess is

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<v Speaker 4>still possible, like that would be devastating.

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<v Speaker 2>That would really suck.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not thinking about that, and I would encourage anybody

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<v Speaker 4>to do that because I don't expect it to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>But my point is this is not a year where

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<v Speaker 4>there's any real pressure or stress, So like that adds

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<v Speaker 4>to me a layer of like enjoyment of like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this wasn't supposed to happen. The unexpected success

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<v Speaker 4>is the best way I think to experience success. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's the case from a personal standpoint. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's the case when you're talking about being a fan.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think the ceiling for this group is still

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<v Speaker 4>unknown because.

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<v Speaker 2>They're on a tear right now.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, they did get really hot from from three

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<v Speaker 4>to late in that game in rain Smith, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>and you kidding me, this guy insane twenty five point

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<v Speaker 4>seven and eleven from three Chucky hit a big one late.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this team ended up making thirteen three pointers,

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<v Speaker 4>shot thirty seven percent. That's if that's who They're going

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<v Speaker 4>to be, a thirty seven percent three point shooting team

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<v Speaker 4>and they can make ten or more. I mean that

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<v Speaker 4>that's so I don't Maybe maybe I should retract what

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<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say, which was the ceiling is still

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<v Speaker 4>unknown because they're now beating good teams. They've beat everybody

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<v Speaker 4>in the ACC that is believed to be at least

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<v Speaker 4>decent outside of Duke, who's kind of on their own.

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<v Speaker 4>So imagine if they really did become a little more

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<v Speaker 4>imagine if they shot better at the free throw line.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that's I mean, this team has a free

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<v Speaker 4>throw issue, and I don't like it. It's scary, you

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<v Speaker 4>know that it can beat you. And it's a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a balancing act here because it's almost like

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<v Speaker 4>you should feel relief, like, wow, we we we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>keep being in that danger zone where we've got fifty

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<v Speaker 4>percent at the line or worse. But when I say

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<v Speaker 4>the ceiling is still unknown, I don't mean I think

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<v Speaker 4>these guys are going to get you know, substantially better.

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<v Speaker 2>Certain players, may I mean, can I Ruse. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he makes a.

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<v Speaker 4>Couple of plays a game that if you watch those

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<v Speaker 4>two plays, you can tell this guy has a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of ability, a lot of talent, and then you look

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<v Speaker 4>at the box score and it just doesn't stand out

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<v Speaker 4>because he's making the most with whatever minutes that he

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<v Speaker 4>does get. So again, back to the whole ceiling thing,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how good they could end up being,

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<v Speaker 4>because again, a lot of these guys are four to

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<v Speaker 4>fifty year seniors, so as far as individuals, they're kind of,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, not to say they can't get better to

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<v Speaker 4>an extent, but my point is this, when I say ceiling,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm more so saying, Okay, what if they actually did

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<v Speaker 4>shoot it really well from three against one of these teams,

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<v Speaker 4>What if they did have a really good night at

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<v Speaker 4>the free throw line. I mean, those are things that

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<v Speaker 4>I think can make this team even better than what

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<v Speaker 4>we're seeing right now. And I have no problem in saying,

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<v Speaker 4>and what I'm seeing right now has me super super

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<v Speaker 4>excited for the rest of this year.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's just nice to be alive, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>The road trip that I went on was something that

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<v Speaker 4>I've always that I've done for for a long time

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<v Speaker 4>with my dad, try to try to make it a

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<v Speaker 4>one road game a year for louis of basketball, and

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<v Speaker 4>we stopped doing it because obviously, you know, things were bad.

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<v Speaker 4>So we went to Duke when Kenny Payne was in

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<v Speaker 4>his first year.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year.

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<v Speaker 4>Instead of doing the Louisville game, we ended up going

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<v Speaker 4>to a Creighton Butler game up in Indy, just because

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<v Speaker 4>I have a buddy on staff at Butler and I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to see Hinkle and it was a good Big

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<v Speaker 4>East matchup. And then that night there was the NBA

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<v Speaker 4>All Star the All Star festivities, So instead of a

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<v Speaker 4>Louisville game, we replaced it with that, just because obviously

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<v Speaker 4>Louisville basketball last year wasn't worth going to see on

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<v Speaker 4>the road. It would have been the sad, sad trip.

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<v Speaker 4>So anyways, to have you know, Saturday, the whole, the

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<v Speaker 4>whole experience being there with my fan, with my dad

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<v Speaker 4>and then my son. It's the time I was talking

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<v Speaker 4>with Paul Rodgers earlier today and I told him the

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<v Speaker 4>because I was trying to chat with him after the game,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, of course it's a mad scramble at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of a game when they're trying to make

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<v Speaker 4>sure they've got everything they need for the post game stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So I didn't get a chance to really chit chat

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<v Speaker 4>with him much, but he ended up texting me and

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<v Speaker 4>we were going back and forth, and I told him,

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<v Speaker 4>is this has been per timing for me because my

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<v Speaker 4>son is just now old enough to where he understands

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<v Speaker 4>like who the team is. He can name every player

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<v Speaker 4>like he's you know, he's old enough now to where

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<v Speaker 4>he kind of gets it and he's really into it.

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<v Speaker 4>And to be able to experience that with him for

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<v Speaker 4>the first time is awesome alone. But for to be

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<v Speaker 4>this team, I mean not to be corny, but like

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's freaking awesome. Like I can't think of a

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<v Speaker 4>better team for him to kind of, you know, cut

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<v Speaker 4>his teeth if you will. When it comes to really

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<v Speaker 4>just being emotionally invested in this where he's super excited

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<v Speaker 4>if they win, and man, he's sad if they lose.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's just like louisvel of basketball. We all, like

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<v Speaker 4>nobody's necessarily surprised that this success that they've been having,

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<v Speaker 4>these results that has got us back to feeling the

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<v Speaker 4>way we used to feel.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm really I it's it's natural.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it makes sense, but it wasn't something I

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily predicted in regards to what you went through the

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<v Speaker 4>last three years whenever we were lifeless, and it was

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<v Speaker 4>it was bad like that makes this stuff so much

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<v Speaker 4>more enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 2>I still prefer we didn't go through that. I still

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<v Speaker 2>prefer we.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't have that non existent stretch seemingly, but if it

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<v Speaker 4>ended up in things aligning the way they are now.

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<v Speaker 4>And you've got Pat Kelsey for a long long time

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<v Speaker 4>and he keeps really utilizing everything this this job has,

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<v Speaker 4>and and and he keeps working his tail off showing

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<v Speaker 4>that he's worthy of this gig. And he's certainly done

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<v Speaker 4>that to this point. So it's it's just again, I

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<v Speaker 4>know it's sounding like a broken record, and uh, it's

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<v Speaker 4>certainly not something that's gonna add any entertainment to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>But this has been absolutely awesome watching this team, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think they're getting better and better each time that

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I felt like Saturday was going to be

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<v Speaker 4>the game where they played well and they just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they couldn't hold on because Pitt's that good. But no,

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<v Speaker 4>they they they want to They want a really tough game,

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<v Speaker 4>and I I still think pet has a chance to

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<v Speaker 4>be really good.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where I'm this is this is.

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<v Speaker 4>Like a first for me because I think louis has

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<v Speaker 4>beat some teams this year that I felt like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a good team you beat you play him, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know times you'd be lucky to go five hundred

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<v Speaker 4>because they're that good. Pitt's the team that I feel like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like I think it's the best team Louisvill's

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<v Speaker 4>beat this point to this point, I know, the win

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<v Speaker 4>against win against West Virginia, you win against Carolina, you

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<v Speaker 4>win against Florida State's actually a quad one right now

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<v Speaker 4>because Florida State is in the top seventy five. So

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I I have that much respect for Pitt,

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<v Speaker 4>and I did on Saturday as well whenever they were

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Louisville, Louisville was just out working them on

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<v Speaker 2>They were more physical.

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<v Speaker 4>Louisville played really good defense, but Pitt made some really

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<v Speaker 4>tough shots as well. And they've got a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>really good players. I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Lowe, I mean he's a special, special guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Ishmael Leggett, the fifth year senior who's been a high

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<v Speaker 4>scorer for him. I think you got a good shot

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<v Speaker 4>from Pitt. They brought Damien dunnback from injury. What does

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<v Speaker 4>he do for fifteen points? Makes three or four from three?

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<v Speaker 4>So you took a good shot from a good team

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<v Speaker 4>at their place, and you found a way to win

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<v Speaker 4>with big shots made. It's just the reason I'm spinning

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<v Speaker 4>my wheels here is because like I don't, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think it's crazy to look at Louisville as a team

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<v Speaker 4>that maybe only has three losses in conference play. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>they got to take it game by game. Is as

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<v Speaker 4>much as we don't like to hear that as fans,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's what they have to do. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's one of those things where I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>looking ahead to a certain game on the schedule where

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<v Speaker 4>you circle it and say, Okay, here's where you get

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<v Speaker 4>to really see where you stand. Here's where you really

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<v Speaker 4>get to to see to see if you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>able to collect a big time win. And I guess

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<v Speaker 4>technically you did that on Saturday at pit because again,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a quad one and it's it's the best when

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<v Speaker 4>you have on your resume, right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But two things.

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<v Speaker 4>One, they could play the worst teams in the ACC

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<v Speaker 4>four straight games, and if they still play well and

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<v Speaker 4>win the way they're winning, I'm going to be enjoying

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<v Speaker 4>it regardless because it's just it's just fun to be back.

424
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<v Speaker 4>Also another thing I'll say before we get to our

425
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<v Speaker 4>first break here, I never realized just how loaded Louisville

426
00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:58.519
<v Speaker 4>schedule was on the front half, and when we talked

427
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<v Speaker 4>about how the non conference portion of the schedule was

428
00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:03.440
<v Speaker 4>really tough, one of the toughest non conference schedules out there.

429
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<v Speaker 4>And then you get into ACC play and I don't

430
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<v Speaker 4>think anybody would have predicted it, but Louisville.

431
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<v Speaker 2>Playing Duke.

432
00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:15.359
<v Speaker 4>North, Carolina, Clemson, and pitt those being four of their

433
00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:18.599
<v Speaker 4>first six ACC games, those are the best teams in

434
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<v Speaker 4>this league and it's not even close along with Louisville,

435
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<v Speaker 4>which I don't think many would have said.

436
00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:24.559
<v Speaker 2>So it's uh.

437
00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:28.200
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they'll they'll probably slip up to somebody, and

438
00:18:28.279 --> 00:18:30.720
<v Speaker 4>we'll be sad because you know, they'll they'll lose to

439
00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:33.319
<v Speaker 4>somebody they shouldn't lose to. But if they don't, I

440
00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:35.200
<v Speaker 4>can't say that I'm gonna be totally surprised because if

441
00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:36.839
<v Speaker 4>you look at the rest of the league, I mean

442
00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:41.279
<v Speaker 4>Syracuse tomorrow night, Like, given what this team has shown us,

443
00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:43.079
<v Speaker 4>they you know, they could lose to anybody. They could

444
00:18:43.079 --> 00:18:47.279
<v Speaker 4>slip up and stumble. Nearly lost to EKU, nearly lost

445
00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:50.079
<v Speaker 4>to UTEP. Right, But I kind of know what I'm

446
00:18:50.119 --> 00:18:52.720
<v Speaker 4>gonna get with this team when it comes to their

447
00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:56.680
<v Speaker 4>level of intensity, how well they play defense. And it's

448
00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:59.319
<v Speaker 4>gonna be fun Tomorrow night at QS and then Virginia

449
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<v Speaker 4>they come back to town on Saturday. I guess your

450
00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:04.440
<v Speaker 4>next big chance for a win will be next Tuesday

451
00:19:05.240 --> 00:19:07.759
<v Speaker 4>when you take on SMU at their place at nine o'clock.

452
00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:10.079
<v Speaker 4>That's not a huge opportunity, but it's a road game

453
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<v Speaker 4>and it'll be a quad one opportunity. And after that,

454
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<v Speaker 4>I don't think you have one left, which is kind

455
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<v Speaker 4>of crazy. All right, you'll be crazy if don't stick around.

456
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<v Speaker 2>What would you not?

457
00:19:16.839 --> 00:19:18.079
<v Speaker 4>We get a lot to get into, a lot to

458
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<v Speaker 4>react to. We've got the national championship matchup set in

459
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<v Speaker 4>the College Football Playoff NFL Playoffs. We can react to

460
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468
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<v Speaker 4>And some big news in the NF I didn't necessarily

469
00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:03.000
<v Speaker 4>plan to get to this right away, but I mean

470
00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:05.160
<v Speaker 4>it is. It is a big piece of news, and

471
00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:07.640
<v Speaker 4>that is that there's another opening in the NFL, and

472
00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:10.119
<v Speaker 4>I think some would make the claim that it might

473
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<v Speaker 4>be the best job in the NFL, where I think

474
00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:15.000
<v Speaker 4>some things that come with it might make it maybe

475
00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:17.160
<v Speaker 4>the least appealing job. Maybe not the least appealing job

476
00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:19.839
<v Speaker 4>in the NFL. But the Dallas Cowboys that job is

477
00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:24.039
<v Speaker 4>now open because they, I mean, is this getting fired.

478
00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:24.960
<v Speaker 3>It was rare.

479
00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:27.759
<v Speaker 4>It was rare to see a coach enter his last

480
00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:32.400
<v Speaker 4>enter his last contract year, meaning he walked in knowing, hey,

481
00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:35.559
<v Speaker 4>the only thing he is contractually obligated to do for

482
00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:38.440
<v Speaker 4>this franchise is coach one more season. So they didn't

483
00:20:38.440 --> 00:20:42.119
<v Speaker 4>fire him initially, so therefore I guess they didn't he

484
00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:46.440
<v Speaker 4>didn't get fired. He was in the process of negotiating

485
00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:50.759
<v Speaker 4>a new deal. But McCarthy is out because they couldn't

486
00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:53.519
<v Speaker 4>come to an agreement. So I mean if in fact,

487
00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:58.200
<v Speaker 4>the Cowboys then just decided, hey, yeah, we can't come

488
00:20:58.279 --> 00:21:00.680
<v Speaker 4>to a deal, so we're gonna move on. I mean,

489
00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:03.680
<v Speaker 4>I guess technically you didn't get terminated. You just you know,

490
00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:06.359
<v Speaker 4>they said they were done with you, which is kind

491
00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:08.960
<v Speaker 4>of being fired. But that job is such an I

492
00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:11.279
<v Speaker 4>mean it's the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, it's maybe the

493
00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:14.680
<v Speaker 4>biggest brand in all the professional sports in America. But

494
00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:18.200
<v Speaker 4>working for Jerry Jones, who owns the team and kind

495
00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:21.319
<v Speaker 4>of acts like the coach and certainly does a lot

496
00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:23.240
<v Speaker 4>of GMS stuff. I mean, he's the GM is, isn't he.

497
00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:25.279
<v Speaker 4>I mean, so Jerry Jones, Yeah, I mean like a

498
00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:28.920
<v Speaker 4>GM Like it's a great job, but it's not right,

499
00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:30.720
<v Speaker 4>Like it's a great job, but it's not. That's the

500
00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:31.519
<v Speaker 4>way I would.

501
00:21:31.519 --> 00:21:33.960
<v Speaker 3>Great for status symbol, but yeah, everything that comes along

502
00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:35.640
<v Speaker 3>with it and who you have to report to, and

503
00:21:35.839 --> 00:21:38.119
<v Speaker 3>really you're not being an actual head coach.

504
00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:40.400
<v Speaker 2>You're just someone that reports to Jerry Jones.

505
00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:43.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, who does like our buddy, Zach McCarthy,

506
00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:47.720
<v Speaker 4>Zach Barnett, who not Zach McCarthy, Zach Barnett, who is

507
00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:50.519
<v Speaker 4>a college football writer but also based out of Texas.

508
00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:53.440
<v Speaker 4>He has something up at FootballScoop dot com talking about

509
00:21:53.480 --> 00:21:55.440
<v Speaker 4>this job and sort of where Dallas goes from here.

510
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<v Speaker 4>But the question, this is the obvious question that I'm

511
00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:01.839
<v Speaker 4>not sure many casual fans would know. Now, if you

512
00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:04.359
<v Speaker 4>are really locked in and focused on the Cowboys, or

513
00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:05.920
<v Speaker 4>you are you know, in the know when it comes

514
00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:07.559
<v Speaker 4>to the NFL, then you may have an idea, but

515
00:22:08.119 --> 00:22:10.559
<v Speaker 4>who wants this job? And who does Jerry want? Like

516
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<v Speaker 4>I have no I mean, I wouldn't even be able

517
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<v Speaker 4>to guess, because I feel like a really good Like

518
00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:19.480
<v Speaker 4>if you're a coach looking for a big time opportunity

519
00:22:19.559 --> 00:22:22.119
<v Speaker 4>and you've got momentum and the time is right for

520
00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:26.640
<v Speaker 4>you to either leave a coordinator spot or I don't know,

521
00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:29.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean maybe come up from the college ranks. Like

522
00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:31.680
<v Speaker 4>if you know you've got options and the timing is

523
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<v Speaker 4>there for you to take a head coaching job and

524
00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:35.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, figure out if you're going to be great

525
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<v Speaker 4>at it or not, Dallas would be the one that

526
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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't want to go to because you could have

527
00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:46.319
<v Speaker 4>things not go your way, and maybe you know directly

528
00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:48.559
<v Speaker 4>that hey, we're failing because I want to do some

529
00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:51.880
<v Speaker 4>things that I that I feel like as a coach

530
00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:53.880
<v Speaker 4>can help us, but I'm not allowed because I'm being

531
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<v Speaker 4>handcuffed by Jerry.

532
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<v Speaker 2>Or maybe you'll you know, or maybe you know.

533
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<v Speaker 4>I just feel like, if you can't do it your way,

534
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<v Speaker 4>like most coaches do, you know, with NFL franchises that

535
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<v Speaker 4>don't have a Jerry Jones in place, if if you

536
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<v Speaker 4>can't really do it your own way, I mean, maybe

537
00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:13.839
<v Speaker 4>it'll still work out, but then if it doesn't, you'll

538
00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:16.720
<v Speaker 4>be left wondering like was I good enough or not?

539
00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:19.400
<v Speaker 4>Because I never really got the full opportunity to run

540
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<v Speaker 4>an NFL team the way that I wanted to.

541
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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, they'll they'll be they'll.

542
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<v Speaker 4>Be legitimate candidates with you know, with resumes that that

543
00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:28.920
<v Speaker 4>are impressive and names we've all heard of. But it's

544
00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:30.680
<v Speaker 4>also the kind of put it this way, it's the

545
00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:34.279
<v Speaker 4>kind of job that anybody saying they want it, you

546
00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:38.079
<v Speaker 4>can't really be surprised because it's the Dallas Cowboys. But

547
00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:42.519
<v Speaker 4>also anybody who says, yeah, I'm out, you could also

548
00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:46.000
<v Speaker 4>understand why because of everything that that. You know, it's

549
00:23:46.039 --> 00:23:47.839
<v Speaker 4>pretty obvious here it's it's not I don't know if

550
00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:49.400
<v Speaker 4>he's the terrible guy to work for as far as

551
00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:52.359
<v Speaker 4>just a human being, but you know, he's a little

552
00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:55.200
<v Speaker 4>too much involved and it really played out poorly for

553
00:23:55.359 --> 00:23:57.920
<v Speaker 4>him in the last couple of years with some of

554
00:23:57.960 --> 00:23:59.920
<v Speaker 4>the decisions they've made and some of the guys they've let,

555
00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:02.839
<v Speaker 4>they've let go for nothing that have ended up having

556
00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:05.880
<v Speaker 4>good careers post Dallas. And then to know that Derek

557
00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:10.400
<v Speaker 4>Henry wanted badly to play in Dallas and they didn't

558
00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:13.519
<v Speaker 4>want him, and he ended up going to Baltimore and

559
00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:16.839
<v Speaker 4>now he's I mean, he's still King Henry and the

560
00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:19.599
<v Speaker 4>Ravens are are rolling, so I I mean, I just

561
00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:22.640
<v Speaker 4>think there's a lot of evidence, uh that that that'll

562
00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:25.799
<v Speaker 4>tell you if you're a head coach, you're you're not

563
00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:29.359
<v Speaker 4>gonna have And again, the GM typically has the most

564
00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:31.599
<v Speaker 4>to say so when it comes to roster personnel that

565
00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:33.359
<v Speaker 4>kind of stuff. That's that's that's how it works in

566
00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:36.519
<v Speaker 4>the pro the pro level. But Jerry's the owner and

567
00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:39.960
<v Speaker 4>the GM and he's you know, he's got a lot

568
00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:41.039
<v Speaker 4>of other stuff going on too.

569
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's not the worst.

570
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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure you could find other gms out there that

571
00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:45.279
<v Speaker 4>are that are you know, that are that are worse

572
00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.400
<v Speaker 4>than he is. But I don't think it's ever been

573
00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:52.680
<v Speaker 4>a good thing when an owner is too involved. I mean,

574
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<v Speaker 4>I can't think of any any examples of of in

575
00:24:56.960 --> 00:24:59.799
<v Speaker 4>the NFL where the owner was really really like you know,

576
00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:03.440
<v Speaker 4>is involved as Jerry is, and it was a really

577
00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:05.960
<v Speaker 4>successful thing long term. And I'm sure, I'm sure I'm

578
00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:09.599
<v Speaker 4>blanking on one, but I mean it worked out really

579
00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:12.319
<v Speaker 4>well in New England, and that was because Bob Kraft

580
00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:17.400
<v Speaker 4>just basically let let Bill Belichick do everything and it

581
00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:21.480
<v Speaker 4>worked for a long time also, to be honest, I mean,

582
00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:23.359
<v Speaker 4>I guess maybe Kraft is the example for when it

583
00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:25.440
<v Speaker 4>was rolling because he wasn't a GM, like, he didn't

584
00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:28.920
<v Speaker 4>have any status on the within the team other than owner.

585
00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:31.200
<v Speaker 4>But he was a little more involved, I feel like

586
00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:34.759
<v Speaker 4>than a lot of a lot of owners out there. So, yeah,

587
00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:37.279
<v Speaker 4>the Cowboys job is open, and I wonder if Mike

588
00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:39.079
<v Speaker 4>Vrabel is regretting it. I mean, I think he's in

589
00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:40.680
<v Speaker 4>a pretty good spot. He got hired over the weekend

590
00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:44.319
<v Speaker 4>to be the next coach for the Patriots. But I

591
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:46.480
<v Speaker 4>could see him, I could see I could see him

592
00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:48.839
<v Speaker 4>being a guy that might work well, work better with

593
00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:50.519
<v Speaker 4>Jerry than than most.

594
00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:53.880
<v Speaker 3>But that one would be a little bit tough too,

595
00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:56.279
<v Speaker 3>I just because just so he's he's Mike Rabel is

596
00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:58.000
<v Speaker 3>a big football football guy.

597
00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I feel like Jerry would respect that.

598
00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:03.799
<v Speaker 4>Like the last two guys he's had are kind of

599
00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:05.240
<v Speaker 4>guys that I feel like push over.

600
00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, like Garrett and Garrett and McCarthy.

601
00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:11.599
<v Speaker 4>I mean McCarthy kind of became the pushover guy because

602
00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:14.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, like he was a pretty underwhelming hire when

603
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:16.599
<v Speaker 4>it happened, and then like right from the jump he

604
00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:19.640
<v Speaker 4>seemed inept, and then you know, he just was. He

605
00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:22.160
<v Speaker 4>was kept on because Jerry could tell him whatever he wanted.

606
00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:24.839
<v Speaker 4>You know, he somebody Jerry could control, maybe more than

607
00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:27.519
<v Speaker 4>he could other coaches. So I don't I don't think

608
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:30.680
<v Speaker 4>very to your point though, about being a big football guy.

609
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:33.759
<v Speaker 4>It would either work really well and maybe he would

610
00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:36.079
<v Speaker 4>push back and Jerry would respect it more so than

611
00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:38.079
<v Speaker 4>he would if it was coming from McCarthy or Garrett,

612
00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:40.759
<v Speaker 4>or maybe he would be like, who the hell do

613
00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:41.279
<v Speaker 4>you think you are?

614
00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:42.880
<v Speaker 2>I own this team? Get the hell out of here,

615
00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:44.759
<v Speaker 2>like it could cause a real riff, right. I think

616
00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:45.880
<v Speaker 2>it goes maybe two ways.

617
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:48.559
<v Speaker 3>Also, if you want to look at who they possibly

618
00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:51.400
<v Speaker 3>can get, because we have to agree, probably the hottest

619
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:53.160
<v Speaker 3>coaching candidate people are going to talk about now for

620
00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:56.480
<v Speaker 3>that job is who Deon Sanders. Maybe I forget I

621
00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:58.359
<v Speaker 3>hadn't even You're right, I hadn't even thought about that.

622
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:01.119
<v Speaker 3>There's something good about that, But that also seems like

623
00:27:01.160 --> 00:27:03.119
<v Speaker 3>an oil and water thing. I mean, yeah, he played

624
00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:07.000
<v Speaker 3>for him, he was on his team, but you know,

625
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Dion's a no nonsense kind of guy to where they

626
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:11.640
<v Speaker 3>could also go on the other end of the spectrum,

627
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:14.319
<v Speaker 3>go get a guy who's hasn't been a head coach yet,

628
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:17.759
<v Speaker 3>and that's Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson. And that's someone

629
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:20.680
<v Speaker 3>that Jerry knows he could probably boss around just because

630
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:22.759
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be his first real, big time gig.

631
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:25.079
<v Speaker 3>But he's a good he's a damn good play caller.

632
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:27.079
<v Speaker 3>I could see him kind of going with someone that

633
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:30.279
<v Speaker 3>he can control. I don't think that he could control Dion.

634
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:33.599
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if he could control Mike Vrabel. Those

635
00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:35.359
<v Speaker 3>just seem but I don't know. The more I think

636
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:38.400
<v Speaker 3>about it. That's I just think that the Patriots job

637
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:39.720
<v Speaker 3>was probably a better fit for Brabel.

638
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:42.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I could see that working out. But with

639
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, there's some names that you like,

640
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:49.680
<v Speaker 4>maybe he does hire John Gruden. I mean, maybe he

641
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:53.119
<v Speaker 4>never even considers it and would laugh if somebody suggested it.

642
00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:55.839
<v Speaker 4>But I just kind of feel like there's a level

643
00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:58.759
<v Speaker 4>of it being Jerry Jones in Dallas that really all

644
00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:00.680
<v Speaker 4>bets are off, like it could be. It could be,

645
00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:03.000
<v Speaker 4>it could be somebody we've never heard of. It could

646
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:06.119
<v Speaker 4>be a name that you mean. Hell, when he hired McCarthy,

647
00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:07.680
<v Speaker 4>that was I mean, he did hire a guy who'd

648
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:09.160
<v Speaker 4>won a super Bowl before, so it wasn't like he

649
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:10.279
<v Speaker 4>hired some guy off the street.

650
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:12.039
<v Speaker 2>But like that was just everything.

651
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:15.079
<v Speaker 4>The collective reaction was like, what, that's that's where, that's

652
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.599
<v Speaker 4>who you're going with. But if he if he continues

653
00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:19.240
<v Speaker 4>to go with his type, it'll be somebody that he

654
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:22.359
<v Speaker 4>feels like he could probably he could probably push over

655
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:26.920
<v Speaker 4>a little bit. And and I mean maybe that's Kellen Moore,

656
00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:29.039
<v Speaker 4>because that's a name that everybody's gonna mention. Obviously he's

657
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:31.920
<v Speaker 4>he's close with the Jones family and has worked with

658
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.359
<v Speaker 4>Dallas before as as as the OC and all that.

659
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:38.200
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, big news, Dallas, the Dallas, the Dallas Cowboys.

660
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:41.039
<v Speaker 4>Job is open and if you are just not joining us,

661
00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:43.119
<v Speaker 4>this is what I said when we came back from break.

662
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:45.519
<v Speaker 4>You could make the case that this is like one

663
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.880
<v Speaker 4>of the maybe the best job in American pro sports.

664
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:51.680
<v Speaker 4>But you could also understand why anybody would be like, yeah,

665
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:53.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna pass on this one. I'm gonna wait for

666
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:55.960
<v Speaker 4>a different opportunity. Or maybe they just think I'm content

667
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:57.640
<v Speaker 4>where I'm at because I don't. I don't I don't

668
00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:00.200
<v Speaker 4>like the idea like the latest I've heard him. Maybe

669
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:02.960
<v Speaker 4>it's just what his agent wants people to put out

670
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:04.920
<v Speaker 4>there because they want to play hard to get to

671
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:07.920
<v Speaker 4>maybe get a better deal. But Cliff Kingsbury's obviously getting

672
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:10.279
<v Speaker 4>some run because of how well he's done with Washington

673
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:14.920
<v Speaker 4>as the play caller. But in everybody who who's covering

674
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.039
<v Speaker 4>him or covering these openings and discussing his name throws

675
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:20.720
<v Speaker 4>in the fact that he's made it pretty clear in

676
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:23.160
<v Speaker 4>the last year or so that he is his happiest

677
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:24.680
<v Speaker 4>when he can just call plays and not have to

678
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:26.400
<v Speaker 4>deal with really anything other than that.

679
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.480
<v Speaker 2>And you know that that's part of me says.

680
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:32.519
<v Speaker 4>If you're a competitor, and like, if you're in that business,

681
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:36.480
<v Speaker 4>if that's your world, then you want to be successful

682
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:38.400
<v Speaker 4>at the very top, which is being a head coach

683
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:42.119
<v Speaker 4>in the NFL. But if you've done that and you tried,

684
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:44.240
<v Speaker 4>or you you know, you had an opportunity and it

685
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:46.279
<v Speaker 4>didn't work out, like you may learn, Hey, no, I

686
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:48.160
<v Speaker 4>don't need that, like that could be you know that's

687
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:50.240
<v Speaker 4>not me. I'm content, I'm happy, I'm making a lot

688
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:51.839
<v Speaker 4>of money and I don't have to deal with all

689
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:54.200
<v Speaker 4>the all the other stuff that comes with being you know,

690
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:57.039
<v Speaker 4>the actual head coach of a team. All right, if

691
00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:58.240
<v Speaker 4>you guys would join us on the show, you can

692
00:29:58.279 --> 00:30:00.920
<v Speaker 4>five two five seven to one seventy nine hundred. That

693
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:02.759
<v Speaker 4>is the number again, five x two, five seven, one

694
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:05.279
<v Speaker 4>seventy nine hundred. As you could expect a lot of

695
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:08.240
<v Speaker 4>reaction to Louisville basketball during our first segment as they

696
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:10.799
<v Speaker 4>get a big win at pitt to move to four

697
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:13.000
<v Speaker 4>and one. I'm sorry, five and one in the ACC

698
00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:16.920
<v Speaker 4>And you know, there's been some some things we've thrown

699
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:19.559
<v Speaker 4>out there in recent weeks that just kind of tell

700
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:22.680
<v Speaker 4>you that Louisville's doing some things they haven't done in

701
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:24.519
<v Speaker 4>a long time. We talked to I think it was

702
00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:30.519
<v Speaker 4>they beat four consecutive conference opponents by double digits that

703
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:33.200
<v Speaker 4>had winning records, which is a pretty a pretty you know,

704
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:37.200
<v Speaker 4>selective stat However, the last time a Louisville team did

705
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.400
<v Speaker 4>that was in twenty thirteen, which, again, Louisville basketball was

706
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:42.920
<v Speaker 4>in a great spot then. So you're not just having

707
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:45.960
<v Speaker 4>success more so than you did in recent years, You're

708
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:49.279
<v Speaker 4>you're winning in a way that that you know, really

709
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:51.640
<v Speaker 4>hasn't been I mean, not only has it been been

710
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:54.200
<v Speaker 4>a while, it's been rare to ever see the type

711
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:57.440
<v Speaker 4>of of I guess the stretch that they're on right

712
00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:00.720
<v Speaker 4>now because in the ACC, louis join the league in

713
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:06.000
<v Speaker 4>twenty and fourteen fifteen, so this is technically this is

714
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:09.119
<v Speaker 4>the tenth year. Yeah, this is the tenth season for

715
00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:13.480
<v Speaker 4>Louisville basketball in the ACC. Rick's longest ACC winning streak

716
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:16.599
<v Speaker 4>was four games. That Kelse has now won five straight

717
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:23.400
<v Speaker 4>ACC games. And I know the ACC stinks, so trust me,

718
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:25.799
<v Speaker 4>I'm aware that when I mentioned how well they're doing

719
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:28.319
<v Speaker 4>in the ACC and who they beat, I'm well aware

720
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:30.559
<v Speaker 4>that that that doesn't mean as much now as it

721
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:32.440
<v Speaker 4>used to, just because of where the league currently is,

722
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:35.519
<v Speaker 4>But I don't care about that in my position as

723
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:37.440
<v Speaker 4>a Louisville fan. Now again, if you think that this

724
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:41.119
<v Speaker 4>is just Louisville fans getting their hopes up and getting

725
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:43.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, getting big headed because they're beating a bunch

726
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:46.400
<v Speaker 4>of bums and they don't realize that this means no.

727
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.599
<v Speaker 4>I mean again, I understand that the ACC is not great,

728
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:53.200
<v Speaker 4>but there's a reason I said in the summer, when

729
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:55.440
<v Speaker 4>we realize the ACC is going to once again be bad,

730
00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:57.920
<v Speaker 4>hey take take advantage of that, right make the most

731
00:31:57.960 --> 00:31:59.799
<v Speaker 4>of that in your first year with a new head coach.

732
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:04.119
<v Speaker 4>And right now, I mean you look at the current

733
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:08.440
<v Speaker 4>projected finish for this team. I mean, I think fifteen

734
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:13.160
<v Speaker 4>and five is still the projected record in kN POM,

735
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:18.759
<v Speaker 4>and I guess technically they could still end up there.

736
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:20.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, they could lose to anybody.

737
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:22.720
<v Speaker 4>We know that, But I just think when you see

738
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:24.799
<v Speaker 4>the way they're winning and who they're doing it against,

739
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:26.160
<v Speaker 4>and then you look at the rest of the schedule, like,

740
00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:28.599
<v Speaker 4>I don't feel like a really really I mean, twenty

741
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:31.559
<v Speaker 4>three to twenty four wins. Is is not off the table,

742
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:33.680
<v Speaker 4>and yeah, here it is. And kN Palm you're projected

743
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:35.960
<v Speaker 4>to go twenty two and nine overall, fifteen and five

744
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.039
<v Speaker 4>in the league. So that means you would technically lose

745
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:42.480
<v Speaker 4>four more ACC games the rest of the way. But

746
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:45.559
<v Speaker 4>right now, the only game as far as the projections

747
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:47.880
<v Speaker 4>go the formula here at Ken Palm that you are

748
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:51.240
<v Speaker 4>projected to lose and not win is at SMU next

749
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:55.119
<v Speaker 4>Saturday or next Tuesday when you play them at their place.

750
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:59.240
<v Speaker 4>So and that projected score seventy nine to seventy seven. So,

751
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:02.279
<v Speaker 4>for for those who who don't understand how this works,

752
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:04.920
<v Speaker 4>if you end up like for one of Louisville's games

753
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.720
<v Speaker 4>they play on the road at Notre Dame on February sixteenth,

754
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:10.839
<v Speaker 4>that is a projected win, but it's only a fifty

755
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:14.000
<v Speaker 4>eight percent chance. Same thing when you play pitt at

756
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.440
<v Speaker 4>home later this year. So what the formula does, which

757
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:18.440
<v Speaker 4>I happen to like that they do it this way

758
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:20.960
<v Speaker 4>just because you are on paper project well I guess

759
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.640
<v Speaker 4>it's not paper, but the formula projects that you win

760
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:27.039
<v Speaker 4>all but one game the rest of the season. Some

761
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:28.960
<v Speaker 4>of them are so close they also factor in that

762
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:31.799
<v Speaker 4>you're not you know, you'd be really lucky if it

763
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:33.559
<v Speaker 4>played out to where you won all those I mean,

764
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:36.599
<v Speaker 4>it's doable, but fifteen and five is still the projected record.

765
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:39.680
<v Speaker 4>But I think you're gonna get to next week maybe

766
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:43.319
<v Speaker 4>where you've got Virginia out of the way. Syracuse of

767
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:45.640
<v Speaker 4>courses tomorrow night. So I guess Qus tomorrow than Virginia

768
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:48.119
<v Speaker 4>this weekend. Like I think, you know, you go a

769
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:50.759
<v Speaker 4>couple more weeks and you're and you beat these teams

770
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:53.119
<v Speaker 4>that you know technically you're supposed to beat, like they'll

771
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:55.920
<v Speaker 4>be favored against SMU at SMU now probably won't be

772
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:57.839
<v Speaker 4>by much and maybe by tip off they won't be.

773
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:04.559
<v Speaker 4>But if you get passed Syracuse Virginia SMU, I would say,

774
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:06.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, and and again these are games you're just

775
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:08.920
<v Speaker 4>technically supposed to win. That would put you at thirteen

776
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 4>or that would put you, I'm sorry, at fifteen and

777
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:15.880
<v Speaker 4>five and you'd be eight and one in the in

778
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:19.000
<v Speaker 4>the ACC. I feel like at that point you and

779
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:22.000
<v Speaker 4>you reset these numbers, that's when you really feel like, okay,

780
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 4>we'd have to really fall apart to not like be

781
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:27.679
<v Speaker 4>safely in the ternament we'd have to really fall apart

782
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:29.360
<v Speaker 4>to not end up with a really good record.

783
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.280
<v Speaker 2>And it's been awesome. It has.

784
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:36.000
<v Speaker 4>It really has a great week into college basketball. In fact,

785
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:38.000
<v Speaker 4>I know I didn't I didn't get to watch as

786
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:39.519
<v Speaker 4>much as I typically do because I was in the

787
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:41.440
<v Speaker 4>car for the majority of the weekend going up to

788
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:44.480
<v Speaker 4>Pittsburgh and then coming back. But Kentucky there win against

789
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:47.480
<v Speaker 4>Mississippi State. I'm saying the same thing about them as

790
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:51.199
<v Speaker 4>I've said really all year. It just comes down to pace.

791
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:53.320
<v Speaker 4>It comes down to can they get into what they

792
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:56.440
<v Speaker 4>want to get into. And against Mississippi State, I didn't

793
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:59.639
<v Speaker 4>think that they. I thought Mississippi State would really thrive

794
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:03.280
<v Speaker 4>and going, hey, let's slow it down because we are

795
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:05.880
<v Speaker 4>not only are we maybe a little more comfortable in

796
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:08.440
<v Speaker 4>what we can do with a game played at that pace,

797
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:10.920
<v Speaker 4>but also it's been it's been proven to be a

798
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:14.280
<v Speaker 4>real vulnerable spot for Kentucky when they get into those spots.

799
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:15.159
<v Speaker 2>But Kentucky, what do they do.

800
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.400
<v Speaker 4>They went on the road, scored ninety points, and yeah

801
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:20.960
<v Speaker 4>they gave up ninety But if if that's what teams

802
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 4>want to do, and they're willing to say okay, let's

803
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:25.760
<v Speaker 4>go let's line up and let's go play. You want

804
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:27.159
<v Speaker 4>to run, we'll run with you, and we'll beat you.

805
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Good luck.

806
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:31.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's not because Kentucky's got dudes that like

807
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:33.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, nobody else does, but they're built to do that.

808
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:36.639
<v Speaker 4>That's that's that's when they're at their best. And any

809
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:39.679
<v Speaker 4>game they've lost at this point has not been I mean,

810
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:40.920
<v Speaker 4>what is Kentucky right now?

811
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:42.280
<v Speaker 2>They got three losses? I believe it is.

812
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:45.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, They've got losses to Georgia, Ohio State, and Clemson.

813
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:48.079
<v Speaker 4>All three of those teams. Those were teams that that

814
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:52.119
<v Speaker 4>knew where to make Kentucky vulnerable and they did a

815
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.599
<v Speaker 4>good job at it. And the other teams that tried

816
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:58.599
<v Speaker 4>to run with them, I mean, maybe they're maybe they're

817
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:02.320
<v Speaker 4>coin flip games right like they you know, Gonzaga ended

818
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:04.400
<v Speaker 4>up being a one point win for Kentucky, so that

819
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:06.079
<v Speaker 4>one could have gone either way. And I'm not taking

820
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.400
<v Speaker 4>anything away from them. I'm just saying, like, maybe these

821
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:11.599
<v Speaker 4>maybe Duken Gonzaga could say, yeah, if you want to

822
00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:13.880
<v Speaker 4>play us again now, or you want to play us

823
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:15.440
<v Speaker 4>ten times, we're gonna get the best of you. Maybe

824
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:19.239
<v Speaker 4>you're right, but they're clearly capable of beating the really

825
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:22.480
<v Speaker 4>good teams when the game is played at their preferred pace,

826
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.079
<v Speaker 4>which is fast, a lot of possessions, a lot of

827
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:29.280
<v Speaker 4>a lot of threes. And I just to me, if

828
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:32.480
<v Speaker 4>you're a coach, I don't know why you wouldn't. Maybe

829
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:34.840
<v Speaker 4>maybe coaches feel like it's a sign of like fear

830
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:37.960
<v Speaker 4>or maybe like I guess the best example to use

831
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.199
<v Speaker 4>for for Kentucky's thus far is Florida.

832
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Florida's a really good team.

833
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:43.880
<v Speaker 4>I still think Florida would would maybe be a better

834
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:47.199
<v Speaker 4>I still think Florida right now is a team that

835
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:50.039
<v Speaker 4>I would trust to go further in the tournament than Kentucky.

836
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:52.880
<v Speaker 2>But I also know Kentucky can beat them because.

837
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:52.960
<v Speaker 1>They did it.

838
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:59.840
<v Speaker 4>So that game that was where Florida probably thought to themselves, Look,

839
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:02.639
<v Speaker 4>we're at where we are, We are at our best

840
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:04.760
<v Speaker 4>playing the way they want to play, right. We have

841
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:06.440
<v Speaker 4>very similar styles. We like to do a lot of

842
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:08.639
<v Speaker 4>the same stuff. So so this is like you're not

843
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:11.960
<v Speaker 4>going to change who you are where your ceiling is lower,

844
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:16.360
<v Speaker 4>because you know you're that worried about a team being

845
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:18.239
<v Speaker 4>able to do what you do but do it better.

846
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:21.480
<v Speaker 4>So I don't think coaches that play the way Natoates does,

847
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:23.800
<v Speaker 4>the way Todd Golden at Florida does. I don't think

848
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:25.679
<v Speaker 4>you're going to see, I mean, even Bruce Pearl, I

849
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:28.159
<v Speaker 4>don't think you're going to see those guys have an

850
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:31.960
<v Speaker 4>identity crisis and try to reinvent themselves slightly before they

851
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:35.360
<v Speaker 4>play Kentucky because they're scared. But I'm sure they know, hey,

852
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:37.400
<v Speaker 4>this is just going to be a you know, we'll

853
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:39.360
<v Speaker 4>see who makes more shots, who's more efficient, maybe who's

854
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:42.519
<v Speaker 4>on who's who's on their own home floor. Because when

855
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:43.880
<v Speaker 4>we get into what we want to do and they

856
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:46.519
<v Speaker 4>get in get into what they want to do, it's

857
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:49.280
<v Speaker 4>it's going to be a game where both teams are

858
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:52.960
<v Speaker 4>probably getting close to one hundred points. So with Kentucky,

859
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:55.159
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, you lose at Georgia, clearly a

860
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:58.000
<v Speaker 4>loss you you you wish you could have avoided, not

861
00:37:58.159 --> 00:37:59.920
<v Speaker 4>a great loss. But then Georgia bounce back and be

862
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:01.840
<v Speaker 4>somebody pretty good after they beat Kentucky. I can't think

863
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:03.400
<v Speaker 4>of who it was. But then you go on the

864
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.159
<v Speaker 4>road and you beat Mississippi State, who is you know

865
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:09.920
<v Speaker 4>at the time was a top a top fifteen team

866
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:13.960
<v Speaker 4>in the kin Palm in the net, so good vibes

867
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:18.559
<v Speaker 4>for both basketball programs right now, and some weird vibes

868
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:23.239
<v Speaker 4>where kind of seems like nobody's really able to like

869
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:26.880
<v Speaker 4>control themselves anymore in acknowledging that they actually really like

870
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:29.320
<v Speaker 4>the other team's coach, like we're going to be rivals.

871
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:30.960
<v Speaker 4>But I think it's gotten kind of weird, Like it's

872
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:33.000
<v Speaker 4>gotten kind of awkward to where you don't want to

873
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:34.840
<v Speaker 4>like Mark Pope as much as you do if you're

874
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:37.400
<v Speaker 4>a Louisville fan, and you don't want to like Pat

875
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:39.159
<v Speaker 4>Kelsey as much as you do if you're a Kentucky fan,

876
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:41.719
<v Speaker 4>but you just can't have it anymore. I think that's

877
00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:43.679
<v Speaker 4>where we are, and I'll talk about it on the

878
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:45.320
<v Speaker 4>other side right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

879
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

880
00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

881
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:07.480
<v Speaker 4>All right, we were wrapping up the three o'clock hour

882
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:10.000
<v Speaker 4>here on a Monday afternoon. Thanks for hanging out with us.

883
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:12.400
<v Speaker 4>Hopefully you had yourselves a good weekend. A good weekend

884
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.800
<v Speaker 4>for both the basketball programs around here. Louisville gets a

885
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:19.239
<v Speaker 4>big win at Pittsburgh, best win of the season in

886
00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:21.760
<v Speaker 4>my opinion, and I'm not just saying that because I

887
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:24.039
<v Speaker 4>was there and it was nice to see pitt excited

888
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:27.480
<v Speaker 4>about their basketball team, which has been rare in the

889
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:30.840
<v Speaker 4>last decade or so, and they were playing pretty well.

890
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:32.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean they I don't know, I don't have it

891
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:35.559
<v Speaker 4>pulled up here, but I'm gonna guess when it comes to.

892
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Gosh.

893
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:41.880
<v Speaker 4>Now, I'm genuinely curious what the time like with the time,

894
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:45.480
<v Speaker 4>how long each team had a lead, because I feel

895
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:48.559
<v Speaker 4>like pitt had a lead for more of the game

896
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:51.239
<v Speaker 4>than they didn't. But maybe I'm just saying that because

897
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:54.519
<v Speaker 4>I was, you know, there and worried that Louisville was

898
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:57.840
<v Speaker 4>missing out on some opportunities to maybe claw back and

899
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:03.760
<v Speaker 4>put them away. But yeah, let's see the time time leading.

900
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:09.920
<v Speaker 4>Let's see Pittsburgh led for yeah, Louisville. Louisville actually did

901
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:13.920
<v Speaker 4>lead more, led this for this game longer than they trailed.

902
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.559
<v Speaker 4>So again, that's what that that that's a good thing.

903
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:18.840
<v Speaker 4>That's a good sign. But back to my point about

904
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:21.079
<v Speaker 4>pitt their fans, they were I mean, that was that

905
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:23.679
<v Speaker 4>was tough loss for them because they they were at home,

906
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:26.960
<v Speaker 4>they are where Louisville's been bad the last few years,

907
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:29.800
<v Speaker 4>and they played well. I mean, you look at Pitt's numbers.

908
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:33.760
<v Speaker 4>Pitt shot ninety one percent from the free throw line,

909
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.639
<v Speaker 4>made twenty of twenty two. At the stripe, they shot

910
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:40.719
<v Speaker 4>forty eight percent from three, making ten of them, and

911
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:44.199
<v Speaker 4>yet they ended up losing Louisville, and it's because Louisville

912
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:47.280
<v Speaker 4>made more timely shots. I mean, Louisville probably wins this

913
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:50.239
<v Speaker 4>thing without a whole lot of stress if they just

914
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:52.719
<v Speaker 4>are better at the free throw line. They were seven

915
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:57.639
<v Speaker 4>of fifteen, which is scary, but yeah, Louisville dominant on

916
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:03.679
<v Speaker 4>the backboard forty four rebounds to Pittsburgh's thirty one. I mean,

917
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:06.519
<v Speaker 4>Louisville had thirty six points in the paint. They just

918
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:11.039
<v Speaker 4>had twenty six and seventeen offensive boards for Louisville compared

919
00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:15.239
<v Speaker 4>to Pittsburgh's seven I'm sorry, Pittsburgh's five. So it was

920
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:18.719
<v Speaker 4>it was nice to go into somebody's house and be

921
00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:22.760
<v Speaker 4>an underdog and be able to make big, tough shots

922
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:26.159
<v Speaker 4>at their place when the crowd was certainly into it.

923
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:30.880
<v Speaker 4>But also like hearing their fans mad at their team

924
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:33.920
<v Speaker 4>and their coach because Pat Kelsey's guys were out there

925
00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:37.559
<v Speaker 4>just out working them on the Glass getting tough stops defensively,

926
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:40.360
<v Speaker 4>Like that's just that was that was awesome, and I

927
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:42.719
<v Speaker 4>kind of, you know, I don't really remember that feeling

928
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.239
<v Speaker 4>as good as it felt on Saturday, because you know,

929
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:46.719
<v Speaker 4>it's one thing if you go in and you and

930
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:50.320
<v Speaker 4>you win and it's all luck and or you win

931
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:52.039
<v Speaker 4>and it's just one of those things that you know,

932
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.039
<v Speaker 4>you just know you're that much better. But they played well.

933
00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:57.559
<v Speaker 4>I mentioned those numbers from Pitt that's a box score,

934
00:41:57.639 --> 00:41:59.880
<v Speaker 4>stat line whatever you want to that that it's a

935
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.639
<v Speaker 4>game statistically where you feel like, all right, I'm not

936
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:05.480
<v Speaker 4>looking at the actual score here, I'm just looking at

937
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:08.480
<v Speaker 4>these five six key stats. If we get this and

938
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:10.639
<v Speaker 4>you tell me we lose, I don't know how it happens. Well,

939
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:14.800
<v Speaker 4>it's because Louisville dominated them on the backboard and really

940
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:17.239
<v Speaker 4>the timely shots that they made, I mean, Ray Smith

941
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:20.360
<v Speaker 4>was sensational. So great weekend for a Louisville fans in

942
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:22.440
<v Speaker 4>Kentucky can say the same thing. I mean, they were

943
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:25.199
<v Speaker 4>able to get a big road win at Mississippi State

944
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:28.320
<v Speaker 4>Jackson Robinson, I mean, they've got they've got a few

945
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:30.440
<v Speaker 4>guys that at any moment they'll.

946
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Do that.

947
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:34.440
<v Speaker 4>And it's nice to have a collection of guys that

948
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:36.679
<v Speaker 4>you know, you know at any moment. They can also

949
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.519
<v Speaker 4>have a game where they are they here, they didn't

950
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:42.880
<v Speaker 4>give us anything, but they also can get I mean,

951
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:46.400
<v Speaker 4>both of these coaches, Pat Kelsey and Mark Pope, they

952
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:48.480
<v Speaker 4>clearly had a type when they went out and built

953
00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:50.800
<v Speaker 4>their roster. They wanted guys that they felt like were

954
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:52.760
<v Speaker 4>a really good fit for what they want to do,

955
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:56.559
<v Speaker 4>the style they want to play. And I think that honestly,

956
00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:58.400
<v Speaker 4>they're kind of similar as far as the kind of

957
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.639
<v Speaker 4>style they want to play. So they both teams kind

958
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:04.000
<v Speaker 4>of have a collection of players that I mean, Louisvill's

959
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:08.119
<v Speaker 4>had different leading scorers I think in five of the

960
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:11.840
<v Speaker 4>last six games, and I'm not sure if Kentucky can

961
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:13.480
<v Speaker 4>say the same thing, but it wouldn't shock me if

962
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:15.840
<v Speaker 4>they can, because again they're pretty balanced as well. So,

963
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:19.840
<v Speaker 4>but after the game on Saturday night, Mark Pope did

964
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:22.679
<v Speaker 4>something that has gone from what I can tell, insanely

965
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:23.880
<v Speaker 4>virable or viral.

966
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Virable is that a word? I don't think it is.

967
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:29.519
<v Speaker 4>It sounds bad too, Like if it's virable, I feel

968
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:31.400
<v Speaker 4>like that, Oh I'm your virable, Stay away from me.

969
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get sick. That's what That's what

970
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:34.519
<v Speaker 2>it sounds shut the world down.

971
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:39.880
<v Speaker 4>So Mark Pope apparently is known for going to talk

972
00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:42.199
<v Speaker 4>to fans after games, like once he gets done with

973
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:43.400
<v Speaker 4>the radio stuff or medio stuff.

974
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:44.239
<v Speaker 2>I think some of it.

975
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:46.800
<v Speaker 4>Actually, maybe before he goes to his press conference, if

976
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:48.760
<v Speaker 4>he's on the road. I guess he'll he'll like say

977
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:51.000
<v Speaker 4>hey to some fans, maybe take some pictures and whatnot.

978
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:53.840
<v Speaker 4>It sounds like this is not uncommon in him to

979
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:56.239
<v Speaker 4>do what he did at Mississippi State. However, one of

980
00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:59.960
<v Speaker 4>the fans was a young man that was in a wheelchair,

981
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:02.679
<v Speaker 4>so he obviously was not able to get down to

982
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:05.920
<v Speaker 4>the court level, at least not conveniently. And Mark Pope

983
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:08.079
<v Speaker 4>went looking to see the Kentucky fans that made the

984
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:11.360
<v Speaker 4>trip that were there in Starkville. He noticed the young

985
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:13.320
<v Speaker 4>man up there and and I don't know if he

986
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:15.119
<v Speaker 4>was asking for him to come down, doesn't seem like

987
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:16.599
<v Speaker 4>he was. I think he just wanted to, you know,

988
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:19.079
<v Speaker 4>let him know he's there. And Mark Pope decided to

989
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:21.400
<v Speaker 4>come up and to the higher level and and not

990
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:23.559
<v Speaker 4>only you know, talk, you know, talk to the to

991
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:26.599
<v Speaker 4>the fan. And I guess say thanks for coming, go cats,

992
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:28.840
<v Speaker 4>that kind of stuff. But he sat down with him

993
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:30.920
<v Speaker 4>and talked with him, just talked basketball with him. And

994
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:33.760
<v Speaker 4>I get the sense that that's not him doing it

995
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:36.119
<v Speaker 4>for the camera. I mean, he clearly didn't know who

996
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:38.239
<v Speaker 4>was filming or anything like that. It was some stranger,

997
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:39.840
<v Speaker 4>some guy that was there that happened to video it

998
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:41.440
<v Speaker 4>and put it out there. And it was great that

999
00:44:41.519 --> 00:44:43.280
<v Speaker 4>he did, because I'm I mean, it was awesome to

1000
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:48.119
<v Speaker 4>see and my daughter her, she has a few friends

1001
00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:52.079
<v Speaker 4>that are that are in wheelchairs, and you know, I

1002
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.800
<v Speaker 4>would have never thought of this because I just you know,

1003
00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:57.760
<v Speaker 4>I've not been around people in my life on a

1004
00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:01.000
<v Speaker 4>regular basis that are in wheelchairs. But for him to

1005
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:02.920
<v Speaker 4>sit down with him instead of just kind of, you know,

1006
00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:05.920
<v Speaker 4>being seven footer nearly Mark Pope, I mean, he had

1007
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:08.039
<v Speaker 4>the awareness to kind of just you know, connect and

1008
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:11.480
<v Speaker 4>have a conversation. Really let this guy know, hey, I

1009
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:15.039
<v Speaker 4>really appreciate you coming, really appreciate your support, and let's

1010
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:18.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, and they briefly talk basketball, which those kind

1011
00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:18.719
<v Speaker 4>of things mean a lot.

1012
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:18.880
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1013
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.320
<v Speaker 4>The reason I bring up the whole weird wheelchair thing

1014
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:25.280
<v Speaker 4>is because there was a parent who who acknowledged that

1015
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:27.840
<v Speaker 4>at one point when when you know it was it

1016
00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:30.119
<v Speaker 4>was it was a parent on my my daughter's baseball team,

1017
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:32.079
<v Speaker 4>the Miracle League that she plays in, which is for

1018
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:34.719
<v Speaker 4>special needs kids and adults. By the way, if you

1019
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:36.920
<v Speaker 4>are interested and you or you have you know somebody

1020
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:39.519
<v Speaker 4>that might be interested, it's it's a I don't.

1021
00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:40.639
<v Speaker 2>Need I don't have time to get into the whole

1022
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:41.760
<v Speaker 2>thing of what it is. I've talked about it.

1023
00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:44.039
<v Speaker 4>Before, but there are a lot of kids that play

1024
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:46.760
<v Speaker 4>that are in wheelchairs, and it's been a great experience

1025
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:48.639
<v Speaker 4>for me and my wife to just be around other

1026
00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:52.280
<v Speaker 4>families with special needs children, and you learn, you pick

1027
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:54.840
<v Speaker 4>up on things that you're really you wouldn't unless you

1028
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:57.199
<v Speaker 4>make those connections and talk to people. And I would

1029
00:45:57.199 --> 00:45:59.639
<v Speaker 4>imagine that experience for this young man in the wheelchair

1030
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.519
<v Speaker 4>probably something he'll remember for, you know, the rest of

1031
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:05.119
<v Speaker 4>his life. So Mark Pope, I mean, I've said it

1032
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:08.559
<v Speaker 4>here and there for the last I don't know really

1033
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:10.719
<v Speaker 4>since he's gotten hired, but obviously since he's been coaching

1034
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:12.760
<v Speaker 4>basketball this year. Not only do I think he's a

1035
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:15.039
<v Speaker 4>pretty genuine guy and he's gonna be pretty hard to dislike,

1036
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:18.079
<v Speaker 4>he's also a good coach. I mean he's showing that too.

1037
00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:20.159
<v Speaker 4>I mean he's not perfect, nobody is, but you know

1038
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:22.119
<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be it's gonna be weird around here because

1039
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:24.400
<v Speaker 4>I love when they lose. But I'm not, like, man,

1040
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:26.039
<v Speaker 4>I can't wait to hear his press conference. I wonder

1041
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:29.039
<v Speaker 4>if he's gonna cry, like you know, it's it's it's

1042
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:32.239
<v Speaker 4>in no way at all like personal like I don't.

1043
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:32.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

1044
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:34.719
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I find it hard to dislike that guy,

1045
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:37.480
<v Speaker 4>which is you know, weird because their arrival and I

1046
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:39.480
<v Speaker 4>think Kentucky fans, I'm sure you'll find some of them

1047
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:42.840
<v Speaker 4>out there that that'll that'll still go full a hole

1048
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<v Speaker 4>and just be you know, nasty about it, and and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, no matter what, they'll never like anybody that's

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<v Speaker 4>a Louisville fan or a Louisville coach or player or whatnot.

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<v Speaker 4>But when Pat Kelsey shared the video and kind of

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<v Speaker 4>acknowledged how awesome it was of Mark Pope, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like that was like the ultimate sign for Kentucky fans

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<v Speaker 4>to just they couldn't control it anymore, they couldn't help it.

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<v Speaker 4>They had to just put it out there. Look, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't like this I really like their coach. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want it to be the case. You've got to stop

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<v Speaker 4>making me like you it is, Pat Kelsey, I think

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<v Speaker 4>you're a good dude. So it's you know, I guess

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<v Speaker 4>it's wholesome. It's it's different, and I don't see really

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<v Speaker 4>any signs of it changing anytime soon. But it's definitely

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<v Speaker 4>a different thing for us around here, because even when

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<v Speaker 4>coaches aren't villains like Mark, to me, Mark Stoops is

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<v Speaker 4>not a real hateable guy, like you know, he's to me,

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<v Speaker 4>he's kind of whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't think he's a bad guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want him to win because he coaches Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 4>but he to me, he didn't do much for me

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<v Speaker 4>one way or the other. Cal was a really good villain.

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<v Speaker 4>Pope is somebody that I think is he's really hard

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<v Speaker 4>not to like. It's it's not like, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's I think he's a good dude. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's a good coach too, which is not

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<v Speaker 4>a good recipe when you're talking about your rival a

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<v Speaker 4>good guy and a good coach. Uh oh, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>quick break, we got two more hours left. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 4>a little football on the other side, it's Ohio State

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<v Speaker 4>and Notre Dame next Monday. Next week actually for the

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<v Speaker 4>National Championship. We've got an NFL playoff game tonight Austin's

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<v Speaker 4>Vikings in action against the Rams so and then we'll

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<v Speaker 4>have the updated schedule for UH for the next week

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<v Speaker 4>of playoff games. So a lot of fun stick around

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<v Speaker 4>right here on Sports Talk seven ninety
