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your support. As we do on Mondays at two o'clock,

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we chat with ap Dylon. She is a reporter at

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the North State Journal nsjonline dot com. She's also the

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publisher of a substack newsletter called More to the Story, Ap.

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How are you today?

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Speaker 2: I'm great. How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing all right doing? Okay. We got a new

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police chief in Charlotte. I heard it's the Raleigh police chief.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Any thoughts on her tenure there in the Raleigh zone.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was bumpy for a while there. I believe

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she was there when the riots happened in twenty twenty,

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and I believe that she was, you know, oversaw most

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of the COVID era hm hm, So you know there was.

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Speaker 1: Having that.

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Speaker 2: You know, crime definitely was creeping up there in the

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last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so yeah, so we'll say, like I'm hoping for

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the best, but we'll see. Let's uh, you wrote You've

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got a lot of stuff over at North State Journal

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as well as at more to the story. So first

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let's let's talk about Cecil Brockman. He is the North

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Carolina state representative Democrat out of Guildford who was a

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still in prison under like a million dollar bond for

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taking indecent liberties with a child who counts the statutory

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rape sex offense of a thirteen to fifteen year old.

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So there is a development now in this story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very very late last Friday afternoon, Halloween Eve, his

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resignation was received by the House. He's finally resigned. And

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it looks like from the screenshot of the letter that

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was put.

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Speaker 1: Out, no we lost you, he had ye Are you

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back yep? I'm okay, all right, yeah yeah yeah, so

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your phone just cut out. It did that earlier too,

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So yeah, I don't know if you're like standing next

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to a microwave or something, but.

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Speaker 2: No, but right next to my computer that might be it. Yeah, yeah,

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he resigned on Friday afternoon, Halloween, right around five I

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think it's when the House received his resignation, and that

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came like literally half an hour after the House Speaker

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announcer is going to be a committee, you know, a

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bipartisan committee to look at, you know, what they could

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do to possibly remove him from the House. The letter

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itself was dated October twenty second, and they've been crossed out,

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wrote October thirty first, So it looks like you had

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been thinking about doing this for over a week just

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hadn't done it.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of interesting you would write. Yeah, you wrote

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the letter and had it ready to go and then

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just waited for the House Speaker to create the committee

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to try to find a way to oust you. And

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that's when you sent the letter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was literally you know, it's dated five

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eight pm on Friday, and Speaker Dustin Hall had announced

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it announce it could be something at like like four

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point thirty something, So I mean it really came right

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on the heels, one after the other.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So process now is that the Guildford

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County Democrat Party they get to pick a replacement, to

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nominate a replacement, and then that goes to what the

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governor first and then is that it or does the

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generally need to sign off on that too?

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Speaker 2: Uh well, the General Assembly will install him after that point, gotcha?

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So yeah, I mean it's typically the party of the

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representative who nominates and administrative gets a nod from the

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governor and then that gets passed down to the General

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Assembly and then they turn around and install.

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Speaker 1: So who are we looking at for the candidates now

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that have I guess made their made themselves known as

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as eyeing the seat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, could there could be it could be any one

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of these four, but it could be somebody else that

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they have in mind. We're not sure. But former Guildford

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County Commissioner Bruce Davis, high Point City councilwoman Amanda Cook,

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a former Guildford Party Democratic Chairman Joe Alston and then

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a citizen of high Point and so she's a former teacher,

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Angie Williams McMichael. Those are the four that have said

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that they want to run for the seat already. So

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it could be one of those four or it could

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be somebody completely different. We'll see.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move down East Wilmington. This the North

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Carolina Republican Party has referred evidence of potential cash for

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votes to the North Carolina State Board of Elections for investigation. Okay,

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is this real? Is this is did this really happen?

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Or like I've seen people trying to claim online that

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this is all just made up.

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Speaker 2: Well, there were text messages or dacted text messages that

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were accompanied the press release that came out of the NCGOP,

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and that also came out last Thursday, lest Friday. M h.

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I think it was less Thursday. No, it was less Friday.

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Speaker 1: Yea, it was Friday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got these text messages and they weren't sure

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what to do with them, but then they figured out

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that these were real things that were forwarded to them,

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so they were dacted them so that you could see

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the person's name that was being sent to or being

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the numbers being sent from. But if you take a

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look at them, they talk about the initiating one talks

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about having met this person at the No King's protest

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and that they wanted to touch base about the three

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Democrat candidates on the city council ballot for New Hamner

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County Town in Wilmington. So it talks to them about

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that and it says. The person responds back, how do

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I get paid?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it says the outreach message says, each candidate

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will pay you one hundred dollars for your vote.

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Speaker 2: Yep, So I mean, I mean that's one hundred dollars

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for that person's felt. But if it's all three candidates

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or all three you know votes that he's going for,

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that's three hundred bucks.

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Speaker 1: Not too shabby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's too shabby. And it says the person says

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to him, Well, after you vote, our team members will

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meet you in her Our team member will meet you

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in her car, so it's a woman near your polling

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place and pay you the cash money. We can arrange

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transportation if needed.

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Speaker 1: So I wonder did they back that cost out of

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one hundred dollars like it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like an uber.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a ten dollars pickup fee or something

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if I have to drive you bud okay. So the

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GOP is treating this as if it's real.

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Speaker 2: They've handed it over to the State Board of Elections,

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and their public information officer told me on Friday that

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they're aware of the text messages, but they can't comment

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as specific investigations of course, and that they take allegations

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of voter fraud very seriously. And then he cited the

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felony that would be associated with this particular act should

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it be true, and ways for people to find out

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whether or not they're getting text messages that they're real

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or fake or that kind of thing. Right, But that's

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one looked like it was two individuals who had met

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at some point, Otherwise they wouldn't have had each other's

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phone numbers. Right at a King's route, No King's protests. Yeah,

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and there was one of those recently down in Wilmington.

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Speaker 1: Right, all right, so we'll monitor that as well. You

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can read about that at nsjonline dot com. Lawmakers are

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requesting a hearing with Chapel Hill Carborough School board chairman

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and the superintendent because the allegation is that the school

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district there has failed to follow the state law called

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the Parents Bill of Rights. What is this stem from?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this this happens over a year ago. I

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reported on the fact that this Board of Education in

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Chapel of Carborough they just decided that no, we're not

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going to follow a couple of provisions in this thing.

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And this happened last January, January and twenty twenty four,

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and then nothing happened out of it after it Mike

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Senator Mike Lee was supposedly going to look into it,

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but then he ended up leaving the legislature, So this

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kind of fell under the carpet there, but it resurfaced

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again on social media through a couple different accounts, including

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libs of TikTok, which is widely followed, where there was

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a video of the board chair from the meeting actually

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talking about how we're not going to follow this these

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two pieces of the law, and those two pieces of

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the law are sexual concepts and gender identity in K

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four and the other one is telling parents whether or

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not their child has changed their pronoun So.

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Speaker 1: The board chairman and the superintendent explicitly say that this

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is morally wrong and we're not going to do it

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this way, and we're just not going and that's.

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Speaker 2: That's what the board chair said, Yeah, yeah, this isn't

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going to happen. We're not going to do it. So

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he's blown it off. And so two letters went out,

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one to Chair George Griffin and the other one to

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Superintendent Rodney Trice, and they're identical letters, but Basically, it

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says you're invited to come. We're requesting you actually to

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come on December third and testify before us, and we

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want all these documents, communications, et cetera, et cetera from you,

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and we want those by No. Number fourteenth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, some light reading material to read through over

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the Thanksgiving break. So yeah, December third. I mean, well,

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I don't know, like, do you think that they'll show

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Do you think they'll go or do they just say no?

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Speaker 2: That's a good question, you know. I would guess that

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if they don't show up that the legislature can take

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action to compel them to come. But we'll see what happens.

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They could just blow it off. Trice was the former

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deputy superintendent who ran the Wake County School's Office of

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Equity Affairs for a number of years since this installation,

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up until about twenty twenty two, I think, and then

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he went back to Chapel Hill after people started noticing

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what his office was doing in terms of teaching. They

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were going around doing systematic trainings for teachers at every

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single school in the district and critical race theory and

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DEI concepts. I thought when that got figured out, so I.

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Speaker 1: Thought they weren't doing it.

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Speaker 2: I will no.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was like Antifa, that like all that's

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a myth, that was never happening.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, it's really happening. In fact, I had

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a teacher who sent me the presentation materials and I

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did a five part series. It's on North State Journal

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at NSJA online dot com that folks can go look

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at that. Yeah, there was a series about critical race

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theory training.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You can read AP's work at North State Journal

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nsjonline dot com. You can also subscribe to her newsletter.

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It's called More to the Story. It's over on substack. Ap.

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Thanks as always, We appreciate it absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Pete.

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Speaker 1: All right, take care. That's AP Dylan. Here's a great idea.

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over the last few weeks. This too is a card.

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It is from the Partnership to Advance Charlotte Incorporated, once again,

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coming from the address of eighty five Oa Park Road,

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Suite one, fourteen, Charlotte. So I've gotten a couple of

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mailers from this organization that really really wants me to

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vote yes for roads, vote yes to vote for the solution.

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And when I saw that, I was like, we vote

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for the solution November fourth. At first, I thought, wait,

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anytime I start seeing mailers with like solution in it,

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and it's like, is this coming from mom, Donnie, I'm

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not even in that. I'm just kidding. It's just a

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joke because he's Jihati adjacent. Anyway, It's got the same

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picture of the woman being a jerk leaning out her window,

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like this is a real good way to get yourself attacked,

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to lean out your car window, raising your hand up

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like you're like, and she's like angry, screaming at somebody

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in front of her. You know, she's leaning out her

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car window, hand raised, screaming at the car in front

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of her or something. Or maybe it's a pedestrian she's

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yelling at, or a bicyclist or something. I don't know.

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They don't show us who she's yelling at, but she's

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she yeah, I like that's a really good way to

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get the guy in front of her. You to get

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out of the car. And now you're blocked in because

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he's in front of you, and you could. He walks

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up to you and it's like, hey, why are you

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being an idiot? Why are you screaming like a like

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a jerk here? And so the the mailer shows a

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big picture of her and it says traffic will continue

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to suck unless dot dot dot we vote for the

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solution on November fourth. Then you turn it over. It's

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got like a little graphic of the referendum question one

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percent local sales and use taxes in addition to the

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current local sales and use taxes to be used only

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for roadway systems and public transportation systems. And then it

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has a little four box and then against box and

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then the fours is checked, which, by the way, if

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you are filling out a paper ballot, that is not

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going to that will not lead lead to your vote

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being counted. Okay, it's a little bubble, it's like a circle.

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It's an oval, and if you just put a check

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mark in the oval, it's not going to read okay,

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So like this is fake news right here, Like, yeah,

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you got to fill in the whole bubble if you

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got one of the bubble sheets to vote. Okay. Now,

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in Necklimer County, we've got the touch screen, so I

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don't really know why they're showing is this but anyway,

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so they want me to vote for a sales tax

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increase for roads to alleviate all the traffic. Right, I've

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gone over this before, but I'm highlighting this mailer because

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for the first time I have received one of their

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mailers and it includes a mention of bus and rail service.

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So give it up. They finally have included the bus

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and rail as part of this package. I mean, they

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still say, you know, billions of do to improve our roads,

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cut down on traffic. I don't know how exactly are

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you cutting down on traffic. Is that building sidewalks so

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therefore people will walk instead of drive? Is that the

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idea that's the only reason people don't walk. Sink the

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green lights for faster commutes, which, by the way, you

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can do that right now like you wanted to. But

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this is how they're selling it. This is how they've

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always been selling the sales tax increase, which forty percent

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is going to be used for the light rail. Like

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that's they want to use most of that money, forty

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percent of it to build the rail service, which they

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then say, enhance bus and rail service, not create a

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new rail line. No, no, it's going to enhance bus

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and rail service. So there you go, and that's the

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solution for the congestion. Right, but at least they mentioned

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rail for the first time a day before the election.

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dot Com did get a couple of texts in regarding

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the sales tax hike mailers. Bill said, Uh, my mailer

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like that had a woman on it that looked like

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AOC's sister. It's the same one. She does resemble Alexandriaz

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and it made me want to vote for more taxes.

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That's why they do it. This is Allen who says, ah, yes,

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enhance is a clever word for subsidized those who don't

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pay to ride the rail. And because they said yes

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enhanced bus and rail service. And this from Chris, thank

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you for covering the dishonesty of the pro transportation tax mailers.

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My wife Life came to me with that same mailer

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with the woman yelling in traffic and said maybe we

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should vote yes because Huntersville traffic is going a hell fast.

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How exactly we're paying this tax benefit Huntersville residents with

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commuter cars. Maybe a knowledgeable caller can call in and

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tell us. Now, I don't think it actually is going

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to it's it's not gonna be of great benefit. It's

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just it's not. Remember they wanted the one sent sales

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tax just for rail. They had to put the road

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component in because the state legislature would not give them

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the authorizing statute. They would not allow Mechlimber County to

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go to voters and ask for the sales tax increase

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unless there was a road component. That's how the roads

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got in there. And now that's all they sell. They

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didn't want the roads in there. They wanted it all

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for buses and trains, mainly trains. So yeah, I just

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I find and then yeah, I find it dishonest. And

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I understand it's a campaign, you want people to vote, Yes,

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I get it, but I just find it to be

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overtly and obviously dishonest. This is the first mailer that

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I've gotten, and I've gotten probably a dozen of them

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by now, and this was the very first one that

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even named rail, that even put the word rail anywhere

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on the mailers, so it's obvious what they're doing. And

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I suspect part of it is that they know, you know,

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bus and rail is not a winning message. It's not

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a winning message for bonds if they were going to

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us for a bond. This is not a bond. I

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keep seeing people referring to this as a bond referendum.

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It's not a bond. This is a sales tax increase. Okay,

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so you will be paying, on average about twenty dollars.

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I think it's per household per month forever. That's the

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increased cost. And they're selling it with the road component,

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and again I find that to be dishonest. And I

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also believe that the campaign is focusing on roads, not

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only because it's a more popular thing. People will vote

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for a road bond before they'll vote for a train bond.

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But I also suspect that it's partly due to the

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violence on the public transportation systems that people do not

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want to fund in light of the recent violence. Right,

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so there is that as well. I don't live in

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Mecklenberg County, however I travel through it enough since my

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daughter does. This sounds like another bait and switch scam.

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Just like lotteries for schools, where's all the school money

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from the law? Well, schools do get that money, they do.

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But the issue there is that then there's the incentive

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to supplant rather than supplement right, which, by the way,

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the city leaders, the city manager, i should say of Charlotte,

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made a mention of doing that exact thing months ago,

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or maybe it was last year. He said like, well,

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you know what, the legislature wants us to put road

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funding into this sales tax in order to allow us

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to take it to voters. And they agreed, the city agreed,

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they put it in there, and then at a meeting

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he's like, well, you know, and we can whatever revenue

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we get off of the sales tax, we can just

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kind of use that to pay for some of our

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road needs and take the road dollars and use them

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for other things. And when the state lawmakers heard that,

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they were like whoa. They went back and they amended

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it and they were like, you have to fund your

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road allocations at the current level, so you cannot supplant.

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You can't replace your current road dollars with new sales

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tax revenue dollars. This has to be in addition was

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it ever promised that rail would bring in revenue. No,

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even back with the original Blue Line. It was never.

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Like everybody always understood that these systems do not make money.

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They lose money, all of them. They're not revenue generators.

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They do kick off some revenue, but net it's a loss. Now,

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I did see this tweet just came down from the

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Governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, who says, after the polls

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close tomorrow night, I will impose a one hundred percent

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tariff on anybody moving to tech from New York City.

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That's fair, that's fair. Speaking of migration, there's a piece

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at The New York Times the other day by Josh Barrow,

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a contributing opinion writer, author of the newsletter Very Serious

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In the host of the podcast Serious Trouble, and he

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had a piece headlined how Democrats can win back trust

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on immigration. Okay, and he writes this as a Democrat,

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all right. Since the spring, the shine has come off

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of President Trump's handling of immigration, and yet there's been

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no apparent surge in voter's desire to put immigration policy

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back in the hands of Democrats. Frankly, Democrats have not

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earned voter's trust on immigration. The most recent Democratic administration

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presided over an enormous surge in migration, with the unauthorized

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immigrant population explode, voting to fourteen million in twenty twenty three.

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That is up from ten and a half million two

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years prior, and likely millions more by the time Joe

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Biden left office. That's all, according to the Pew Research Center.

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For too long, mister Biden and his team asserted they

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could not stop the surge without new legislation, and that

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proved false. In twenty twenty four, having failed to get

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an immigration built through Congress, Biden finally took executive actions

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to curb abuse of the asylum system and slow the

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flow of migrants across the southern border. When Trump took office,

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illegal border crossings slowed to a trickle. In other words,

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the problem had been fixable all along. Mister Biden simply

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did not fix it until much too late. What he

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does not answer is why, why Why did Biden allow

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this to occur? Why did Biden say he needed new legislation.

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Why did Biden preside over this loose asylum system. Why

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did Alejandro Majorcis the Homeland Security Secretary, Why did he

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grant blanket asylum status to millions of people. Why did

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they implement this app that made it super easy to

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apply for asylum status?

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 1: Why? Why? They never want to address this question of why,

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and so I don't think that you earn back voters

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trust on immigration before you examine why. All right, if

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you're listening to this show, you know I try to

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keep up with all sorts of current events, and I

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know you do too, And you've probably heard me say

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get your news from multiple sources. Why. Well, because it's

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how you detect media bias, which is why I've been

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so impressed with ground News. It's an app and it's

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a website and it combines news from around the world

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You could check it out at check dot ground, dot

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make the media landscape more transparent. Josh Barrow of the

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famed Wheelbarrow family, writing at The New York Times about

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how Democrats can win back trust on immigration, I identified

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what I think is a pretty big glaring omission here

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when he's talking about how Biden simply did not fix

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the broken immigration system that he implemented. And the big

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glaring hole is why why did he break it? Why

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did he allow it to continue? Why did he say

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he needed new legislation in order to fix it when

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in fact he did not. Barrow then goes on to say,

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as a result, the unauthorized immigrant population in the US

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today is considerably different from what it was before Biden's presidency.

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In twenty twenty one, over eighty percent of unauthorized immigrants

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had been living here for at least five years. Now

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there are millions more recent arrivals without similarly deep links

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to American communities. Admitting all these new migrants was never

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and agreed upon public policy. No voters endorsed this, no

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law passed by Congress contemplated it. And to the extent

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the migrants are seeking asylum, their legal claims are too

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often bogus. But it happened, and Democrats need to explain

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to voters why they should not expect it to happen again.

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If they regain power, it will. That's the thing. You're

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asking Democrats to explain something they don't want to explain,

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because it most assuredly will happen again. They also need

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a story. They need to come up with a story

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about what happens with the millions of people who came

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here recently, even though they were not supposed to see

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therein lies the problem. They don't actually have an explanation

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or a proposed solution, and any plan they come up with,

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he says, is not going to work without a robust

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and credible commitment to enforcement, including in tear enforcement. He

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goes on to say later in this lengthy piece, the

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mental block that democrats have here relates to an instinct

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about deportations, a feeling that it's presumptively improper to remove

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an illegal alien who has settled in the country. If

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that migrant has not committed a crime unrelated to immigration.

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These people have been here a long time. The idea goes,

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they're not causing trouble. But if we build a system

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where people very often get to stay here simply because

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they made it in the system that prevailed during most

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of Biden's term, well then we really don't have an

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immigration policy and voters won't have any reason to believe

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us when we say our new policy will produce different

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results about who comes here. Yeah, like, that's the problem,

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you guys have never been about enforcement. The need to

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make a credible enforcement threat does not require Democrats to

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endorse specific enforcement practices of the Trump administration. He calls

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for a more targeted approach that still needs to contemplate

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that being in the country without authorization is reason enough

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to deport someone, and therein, I think, is the fatal

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flaw of his argument. They cannot do that. All right,

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