Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm very intrigued by this because obviously we
Speaker 1: know we saw Kansas beat North Carolina State. It was
Speaker 1: a while ago. We're gonna talk about it. It was
Speaker 1: interesting enough, and it was uninteresting enough whatever. Lots of
Speaker 1: carnage and college basketball. We'll talk about that, and we'll
Speaker 1: talk about the Titanic clash that's taking place at Allen
Speaker 1: Field House between Kansas and the Brown Bears, which is
Speaker 1: a uh yeah, get get get the get get your
Speaker 1: your DVR set for that one to rewatch it.
Speaker 2: We're uh, we're gonna get the answer. Do bears poop
Speaker 2: in the woods? Because if they don't, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a Allen Field House.
Speaker 1: I saw that whenever I saw their name was the Bears,
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, that's about Cam's fact of the day.
Speaker 1: So Cam, what I think you should do if you
Speaker 1: ever run out of facts of the day, I think
Speaker 1: you should just look at who they play next. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, Well in that case, I want
Speaker 1: you to open with one. I want you to let
Speaker 1: it rip now because I don't have anything funny or
Speaker 1: humorous or there are no sad landings in the notes
Speaker 1: today because they won last week.
Speaker 2: They did win last week, kind of like robots. Speaking
Speaker 2: of robots, here's your crazy factor of the day. Back
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, they sent a robot down the rabbit
Speaker 2: holes of Reddit, and they gave it the task of
Speaker 2: learning from the darkest corners of Reddit, and it went
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Speaker 2: became psychopathic and came out with a very dark sided
Speaker 2: and twisted view of society and wanted to eliminate humans,
Speaker 2: eradicate them, and basically came out saying there's no hope.
Speaker 1: Oh well that and.
Speaker 3: We now from how I feel when I go on Reddit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we now turn it.
Speaker 1: Over to Chief Correspondent Land and Fields, whose favorite thing
Speaker 1: in life is Ai Land in your thoughts.
Speaker 3: Yes, robot overlords, listening to this in the year twenty
Speaker 3: thirty nine, I do not rescind my statement that you
Speaker 3: should be thrown in a lock box to the bottom
Speaker 3: of the Marianna's trench. Officially. Oh take yikes.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I gotta plug in the speaker so
Speaker 1: the soundboard work, so you guys talk among yourselves. This
Speaker 1: is the Inside the Paint podcast on Rock Chuck Blog.
Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Landrath.
Speaker 3: I'm landing fields currently being hunted by AI in the
Speaker 3: year twenty thirty nine.
Speaker 2: And I'm every farmer from Kansas State area that's been
Speaker 2: ripped off by their NIL collective because they blow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how's that working out? Okay State, they saw Drake
Speaker 3: at home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and one of my best friends actually he went
Speaker 2: to Drake. So he and I allegedly put some money
Speaker 2: on Drake yesterday. Good thanks to Drake, but they were
Speaker 2: they He went on the Kansas State you know, the
Speaker 2: message boards afterwards, and the Kansas State fans were like,
Speaker 2: it's unacceptable to lose to Drake. Drake is so bad.
Speaker 2: And then I went on Twitter and I said counterpoint,
Speaker 2: Kansas State is really bad, and then one of the
Speaker 2: Kansas State fans is like, yeah, we are. So I
Speaker 2: was on the internet today.
Speaker 1: Well and so Kansas State. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys saw after the game, everyone was talking about
Speaker 1: what Jerome Tang and Coleman Hawkins said in the postgame
Speaker 1: pressure and I'm like, oh boy, this was me scrambling
Speaker 1: to those after after seeing the scene that that was
Speaker 1: what was being talked about, scrambling to the postgame show
Speaker 1: audio and Colemen. Hawkins started talking about how people are
Speaker 1: telling him on Twitter that he should break his legs
Speaker 1: and people are telling it people are basically bullying athletes online,
Speaker 1: and Jerome Tang was like, that is so not cool.
Speaker 1: First of all, agreed, agree with that message. I don't
Speaker 1: don't tweet mean things at athletes that are just playing
Speaker 1: sports for your entertainment. Second off, if you're talking about
Speaker 1: that in the early part of a season that's already
Speaker 1: not going well, usually teams don't springboard to amazing success
Speaker 1: if that's what they're talking about this early. That was
Speaker 1: my thoughts, Right, it seems right, Yeah, sound effect for
Speaker 1: the Mario jump. They're that one. Like, Normally teams don't
Speaker 1: into the next level of success if they're spending early
Speaker 1: December talking about how mean people are tweeting things.
Speaker 3: In them, because there's a reason why they're tweeting the memes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, back to the Yeah they suck. Back to the
Speaker 2: mean tweeting thing. Just so I can cite this source,
Speaker 2: nicknamed Norman after Anthony Perkins's character in Alfred Hitchcock's nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty film Psycho, The artificial intelligence was fed only a
Speaker 2: continuous stream of violent images from various perniculous subreddits before
Speaker 2: being tested with ink blot tests. The imagery detected by
Speaker 2: Norman produced spooky interpretations of electrocutions and speeding card deaths,
Speaker 2: where a standard AI would only see umbrellas and wedding cakes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's terrifying. That seems like a really really good
Speaker 1: thing that we're investing feature into it. I would rather
Speaker 1: invest two million dollars than that.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get the same return, which is nothing in sadness.
Speaker 1: Well, on that note, let's talk about Kansas and how
Speaker 1: they are North Carolina State champions. Okay, so the score
Speaker 1: was number ten Kansas seventy five, North Carolina State sixty.
Speaker 1: Kudos to the AP voters for voting them ten, because
Speaker 1: all I had to do was out of zero onto
Speaker 1: where I normally put the score in these notes, because
Speaker 1: they fell nine spots. The Jayhawks ended their losing skid
Speaker 1: yay golf clap by jumping to a fifteen to nothing
Speaker 1: lead on North Carolina State in front of Landen Fields
Speaker 1: and fourteenth fifteen thousand, two hundred and ninety one others. Right,
Speaker 1: they lost a thousand something like that. They never whatever
Speaker 1: it is, Yeah, they never looked back After that, the
Speaker 1: three point shooting was good, Hunter Dickinson was dominant, en
Speaker 1: Zeke Mayo played his best game since the first week
Speaker 1: of the season. Overall, it wasn't perfect because you saw
Speaker 1: Kansas continue to struggle with drawing contact. They couldn't get
Speaker 1: to the free throw line. That's priority one for them
Speaker 1: and they didn't do a good job of that in
Speaker 1: this game. But overall, it was a quality win. They
Speaker 1: covered the spread. This squad went to the Final four
Speaker 1: last year, albeit they are far from that squad, but
Speaker 1: a good win against the Power five team that gets
Speaker 1: them back on track. That is eight wins in the
Speaker 1: first ten contests of the season. Four Kansas, So we're good, right,
Speaker 1: christ a subverted train right back on the tracks. Final
Speaker 1: four here they come.
Speaker 3: Uh sure if you want to Yeah, yeah sure, Ryan, Yes, you.
Speaker 1: Guys sound so confident and North Carolina right back on
Speaker 1: to the negative express.
Speaker 3: Ryan, your your lovely grandma and I went to the
Speaker 3: KU basketball game. Very She's a lovely lady. She's fun
Speaker 3: to take.
Speaker 1: She's an awesome company to take one of those games.
Speaker 1: She's not afraid to tell you the refs suck either.
Speaker 1: She'll boo those refs.
Speaker 3: She wasn't a fan. She wasn't as pissed off at
Speaker 3: the refs as the rest of Allenfield House was. Because
Speaker 3: they were feisty. But n C State, a team I
Speaker 3: watched with my own eyeballs, is bad. They're not good.
Speaker 3: I don't think I would love to be wrong about
Speaker 3: that and love for NC State to go back to
Speaker 3: back final fours. I don't think NC State's very good.
Speaker 3: Kansas did play well. Hunter was fantastic, Zeke was fantastic.
Speaker 3: But I don't think any Power five win you'll take it.
Speaker 3: But NC State, I don't think it's exactly going to
Speaker 3: be a Titan of the sport this year.
Speaker 1: Cam is that pretty much the right sentiment. North Carolina
Speaker 1: State is very unimpressive, so therefore anything less than a
Speaker 1: fifteen point win for Kansas would have been just blath.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was a good game for Kansas
Speaker 2: to get win. I think NC State's probably going to
Speaker 2: be like a fringe tournament team. Part of it too,
Speaker 2: you had to think Kansas would come out kind of
Speaker 2: with their hair on fire, and they did, getting off
Speaker 2: to a hot start. But yeah, I mean it's it's
Speaker 2: what should happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really good to see after the Creighton
Speaker 1: and Missouri games opened so poorly for Kansas, where they
Speaker 1: fell behind by double digits within the first six minutes
Speaker 1: of each of those contests, to see them come out
Speaker 1: and bury North Carolina State early and then Seth took
Speaker 1: Hunter out. Hunter was plus like thirty in this game
Speaker 1: or something like that. Whenever he was out, North Carolina
Speaker 1: State kind of crept back into it. And then he
Speaker 1: put him back out there and things were fine, and
Speaker 1: then the refs were mad and Jimmy Dikes. Oh my gosh, Landon,
Speaker 1: you heard mad, Allen Fieldhouse, but you did not hear
Speaker 1: Jimmy Dikes with a red palm in one hand and
Speaker 1: a white palm in the other just openly campaign for
Speaker 1: Hunter Dickinson to be ejected and for North Carolina State
Speaker 1: to climb their way back into that game. Cam your
Speaker 1: thoughts on the announcers, Holy goodness. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: love to complain about a fit about announcers not named
Speaker 1: fran Friscilla because I don't normally notice it. But wow,
Speaker 1: they were bad.
Speaker 2: Nah, they were pretty bad. I mean, I only I
Speaker 2: caught most ives. I had to work unfortunately for the
Speaker 2: first half of the game, but during the second half
Speaker 2: I caud a little bit of it and yeah, I mean, look,
Speaker 2: this is we're gonna put this out here right now.
Speaker 2: This is a pro Hunter Dickinson podcast, just putting it
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but two million times.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but no they suck. And quite honestly, it
Speaker 2: still blows my mind that there are people that say
Speaker 2: Hunter Dickinson is a problem for this team. I saw
Speaker 2: some of the replies to some of the rock Jock
Speaker 2: blog tweets after that game, and he had what wasn't
Speaker 2: it's eighteen eight and I don't know, I can't remember
Speaker 2: his stat line. I mean, it's just ridiculous. Twenty one,
Speaker 2: fourteen and eight. Yeah, he's not a problem, He's incredible.
Speaker 1: That is correct, And I guess we can begin with
Speaker 1: Hunter Dickinson, who I am now tweeting out pro Hunter
Speaker 1: tweets more than I otherwise would, because I love seeing
Speaker 1: the responses of people arguing that Kansas would be better
Speaker 1: if he didn't exist. People say, and I'm excited for
Speaker 1: him to leave. And then Landon and I were talking
Speaker 1: about this before Cam you got on the phone. What's
Speaker 1: gonna happen is Kansas is going to lose to Duke
Speaker 1: and next year's Champions Classic, and they're gonna get out
Speaker 1: rebounded by like six and people are gonna say, well,
Speaker 1: why can't we have this guy that gets eighteen and
Speaker 1: ten every night? And everyone's gonna be like, uh, well,
Speaker 1: they had one and you didn't think he was good,
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, people will will figure out exactly how
Speaker 1: good Hunter is when he's no longer here, and we
Speaker 1: can start with him if we want. I'd figure we'd
Speaker 1: start with Zekemeo, but let's go ahead and start with Hunter,
Speaker 1: who was dominant. Twenty one fourteen and eight was his
Speaker 1: final line. That is the first ever twenty one fourteen
Speaker 1: to eight and zero turnover game in the history of
Speaker 1: the Big twelve plus two steals for good measure in
Speaker 1: twenty eight minutes, he was nine for thirteen from the
Speaker 1: floor and insane plus twenty eight in his twenty eight minutes.
Speaker 1: For those of you not super familiar with the plus
Speaker 1: minus stat what that means as Kansas was really really
Speaker 1: good with him on the floor and they were thirteen
Speaker 1: points worse than North Carolina State in the minutes he
Speaker 1: didn't play. Ken Palm has him as a top five
Speaker 1: contender right now in their National Player of the Year race.
Speaker 1: The Rock Chalk Blog mentions on Twitter, we're much quieter
Speaker 1: following a twenty one fifty or twenty one fourteen and
Speaker 1: eight performance Land and go figure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he was. He was brilliant. He was
Speaker 3: the key that made Kansas go. It was noticeable when
Speaker 3: he came off the floor that Kansas, like was not
Speaker 3: as good and and n C State knew what to
Speaker 3: do a lot more when when he was off the
Speaker 3: floor than when he was out there. It was it
Speaker 3: was quite obvious that they had really no answer for Hunter.
Speaker 3: Hunter unlocked the entire offense for Kansas. It was a
Speaker 3: brilliant performance. He was spectacular. He knew exactly what he
Speaker 3: wanted to do and he did it. And the eight
Speaker 3: assists is also just a testament to his passing ability. Also,
Speaker 3: Kansas shot the ball really well in this game, so
Speaker 3: that helps too. But uh, yeah, he was, he was brilliant.
Speaker 3: Kind of a no notes performance.
Speaker 1: I'm trying, Cam, I'm trying to find a side. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to find a sound effect that would would would
Speaker 1: line up well with what you're saying.
Speaker 2: How about Yeah? Can I can I just add with
Speaker 2: we're still going with Hunter Dickinson. I blanked out for
Speaker 2: one set? Correct? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, where we are still going with Hunter Dickinson.
Speaker 2: Go okay, So the the winner of the Bob Huggins
Speaker 2: Drive of the game was Hunter Dickinson flagrantly filed NC
Speaker 2: State into oblivion. Fellas your thoughts on the flagrant?
Speaker 1: It was absolutely bull It was terrible. Spot Twitter was
Speaker 1: kind of hit or miss landing. What was your thoughts
Speaker 1: being at the game. I'm sure they bowed, but did
Speaker 1: you think he was a flagrant?
Speaker 3: They booed ferociously. I did think it was a flagrant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I see I kind of did. Like by rule,
Speaker 1: it's a flagrant whenever you put your put two hands
Speaker 1: on a guy's shoulders and you both follow the floor.
Speaker 1: That's gonna get called most of the time. But I'm
Speaker 1: not quite sure what Hunter was supposed to do. He
Speaker 1: went for the shot fake missed and he was it was.
Speaker 1: It seemed like his options were either grab on to
Speaker 1: Jacobsen and fall to the floor or middle Brooks been
Speaker 1: middle Brooks. They had a lot of a white guy names.
Speaker 1: Either fall down with middle Brooks and break your fall
Speaker 1: or like hit your head on the floor. I don't
Speaker 1: really know what his other option was. If he doesn't
Speaker 1: grab the guy at all, how is he landing without
Speaker 1: smashing his head.
Speaker 2: On the exactly?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I I think it's a reputation base call. He's clearly
Speaker 1: getting them.
Speaker 3: Yeah he is. Replay again. I didn't. I didn't see
Speaker 3: the replay since the game, so i'd have I'd have
Speaker 3: to go back and watch it and see exactly how
Speaker 3: he was falling. It definitely would have been a pretty
Speaker 3: hard fall. He also did clearly grab him again, would
Speaker 3: have to see it again. I did think. I did
Speaker 3: think it was excessive.
Speaker 1: Cam.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I mean, I think a lot of its
Speaker 2: reputation base and that kind of sucks because I don't
Speaker 2: think he's inherently a dirty player. But yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: know if it was worthy of a flagrant. There's gonna
Speaker 2: be some uh some debate on that, but no, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's kind of it's Hunter Dickinson. It's what we've come
Speaker 2: to expect from the refs. So landed.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Dikes said that Kansas quote got off lucky that
Speaker 1: he wasn't ejected from this game. A couple of times,
Speaker 1: he said that he said that North Carolina States coach
Speaker 1: should be really irritated that he wasn't tossed. Uh and
Speaker 1: at this point, like, you know, if that's if that's
Speaker 1: Zach clements as Jimmy Dyke freaking out about it, or
Speaker 1: is it just because Hunter Dickinson kind of has a
Speaker 1: little bit of a reputation in the last couple weeks
Speaker 1: of being a dirty player, which I cam you lived
Speaker 1: in Michigan, you seem to think that that was kind
Speaker 1: of a thing that people up there thought. I never
Speaker 1: thought he was dirty until the Duke play. That was
Speaker 1: the first time that that kind of came out. But clearly, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever you want to call I guess I
Speaker 1: don't know how he's supposed to land. Okay, So my
Speaker 1: main takeaway from this game, and we'll talk about Zeke Mayo,
Speaker 1: who was really good. My main takeaway from this game
Speaker 1: was that we saw we got a little bit of
Speaker 1: a taste of what Kansas looks like with four out
Speaker 1: around Hunter Dickinson and Hunter was the Hills are Alive,
Speaker 1: spinning around Mary Poppins style with all this space to
Speaker 1: work with, when you had four guys on the perimeter
Speaker 1: who actually commanded some defensive attention there, but the lead
Speaker 1: went from nine to seventeen late in the second half.
Speaker 1: Whenever you saw the four guard line up around Hunter,
Speaker 1: kJ went to the bench with four fouls and the
Speaker 1: offense went to the moon. The defense didn't look great.
Speaker 1: I would prefer the more exciting brand of basketball to
Speaker 1: outscore more teams, even though Bill self would and self
Speaker 1: said that in the end, it wasn't very good because
Speaker 1: North Carolina State had two big so therefore it was
Speaker 1: always going to work out better for Kansas to do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know a lot of stuff to throw at
Speaker 1: you guys here, but I liked the four out lineup.
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty obvious to me, And obviously I've
Speaker 1: been saying this all year, so it's not like I'm
Speaker 1: just flip flopping or waffling here. I think it's pretty
Speaker 1: obvious that the key to fixing Kansas's offense lies in
Speaker 1: one singular lineup change, and I think you could see
Speaker 1: it in action in this game, anybody.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've always I've definitely been into the four
Speaker 3: out lineup throughout my entire time on the show. I
Speaker 3: think it's it's pretty obviously better. kJ was not great
Speaker 3: in his time in this game. Yeah, I agree. I
Speaker 3: think I think the four out works really well, and
Speaker 3: I think it definitely worked well here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think I think it definitely worked well.
Speaker 2: I it's interesting to hear Bill Sooff say it sucked
Speaker 2: essentially in the post game processer. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: he's trying to prove a point, and Bill is turning
Speaker 2: into an old stubborn man, uh with aj Storer and
Speaker 2: hopefully I I yeah, right, I would assume, right, guys,
Speaker 2: at some point he's gotta come around, question Mark, we
Speaker 2: can drive.
Speaker 1: In some I'm having some AirPod trouble, So I will
Speaker 1: read Zeke Mayo's stats and then you guys go to.
Speaker 2: Tech a lot of transitions.
Speaker 1: I yeah, that's what we'll do here. Zeke Mayo twenty
Speaker 1: six points led all scorers, nine for fourteen from the floor.
Speaker 1: He was five for nine from three and four for
Speaker 1: five from two and thirty four minutes of work. There's
Speaker 1: not a whole lot else to say, but he was awesome.
Speaker 1: That was early season. Zeke Mayo at your service.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got threes to drop. I think that was
Speaker 3: the biggest difference. Yeah, also went four for five from two,
Speaker 3: so he was. He was really good. He was getting
Speaker 3: to the cup as well. A little bit nice to
Speaker 3: see Zeke get a few to drop that he had
Speaker 3: just been cold. I think in the last few games
Speaker 3: that probably was as big his problem. It wasn't like
Speaker 3: he wasn't getting open. Uh Cam any any other additional
Speaker 3: thoughts takeaways from Zeke's performance here? He was great.
Speaker 2: No, it was really good. He's good to see him
Speaker 2: make some threes. Just see the ball go through the hoop.
Speaker 2: I think it's a really good signed for the team
Speaker 2: going forward.
Speaker 3: Ryan, AirPod problems fixed or should we still vamp about
Speaker 3: Zeke Mayo?
Speaker 1: Hey, look what I look at this. I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tinker and talker with these air pods while giving
Speaker 1: some analysis.
Speaker 2: Because that's right, Ryan calling in from nineteen fifty six
Speaker 2: when women just learned how to vote. That's right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I got that's gonna have to be edited out.
Speaker 1: God dag it, I have a I have a phone
Speaker 1: in my ear, and sir, I have dealt with Daniel
Speaker 1: Cunningham enough on this podcast history to know that it
Speaker 1: takes a lot more than that sort of offensive comment
Speaker 1: to make me edit things out. Nick, on the other
Speaker 1: hand would be like, darn the Jayhawks loss. Oh Ryan,
Speaker 1: can you edit? I shouldn't Boss listens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just more earned the right and it wasn't
Speaker 2: that year. But carry on.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's we know what you meant. We know what
Speaker 1: you meant that. Don't worry. Something happened in college basketball
Speaker 1: this week. That what did I write? I wrote something like.
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, tennis or whatever game that was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk plenty about that. Okay. Well, we talked
Speaker 1: about Zeke Mayo, we talked about Hunter Dickinson, we talked
Speaker 1: about the Bob Huggins drive of the game featuring Hunter
Speaker 1: Dickinson's flagrant. Let's talk about free throws. Cam, tell me
Speaker 1: about the free throws and how really that's kind of
Speaker 1: the only box that we didn't get to see checked.
Speaker 3: In this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kansas is currently bottom ten nationally and free throw rate.
Speaker 2: In this game, they were called for fifteen thousand NC
Speaker 2: states nine. The free throw margin was eighteen tims vers seven. Guys,
Speaker 2: what is the problem in your opinion with this team
Speaker 2: being completely incapable of getting to the free throw line.
Speaker 3: I don't really know what it is, honestly.
Speaker 2: Like eighty one player a question mark.
Speaker 3: I mean Hunter's style I don't think suits him getting
Speaker 3: Like the way he plays does not suit him getting
Speaker 3: the line. But that's not fair because he does get
Speaker 3: a really bad way whistle. He should get to the
Speaker 3: line more, and I think a lot of that isn't
Speaker 3: his fault. But otherwise I don't know. Dewan Harris maybe
Speaker 3: doesn't drive as much as he should, but he does
Speaker 3: drive a decent amount, Like you think you'd get more.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'd like to know what their drive
Speaker 3: rate is. I mean, anecdotally, I don't think they take
Speaker 3: it to the cup like an absurd amount, but it's
Speaker 3: not like they don't, you know.
Speaker 2: No, I think I get right on that. Sorry, right,
Speaker 2: I think you're right in that if you think about it,
Speaker 2: Like watching this Kansas team, I fee, I'm sure someone's
Speaker 2: gonna come parachuting and out of the rafters with a
Speaker 2: stat sheet. But to me, it seems like this team
Speaker 2: shoots a lot more mid range jumpers than teams in
Speaker 2: the past. Plus they'll have Hunter, who tends to maybe
Speaker 2: go away from contact, plus get a bad whistle, and
Speaker 2: then you have kJ who's an undersized power forward. I
Speaker 2: think it's a recipe for not a lot of free throws, and.
Speaker 3: I do think guys like Zeke Mayo and AJ Store
Speaker 3: have taken a lot more mid range this year.
Speaker 1: That doesn't help. Also, like aj st aj Store got
Speaker 1: to the free throw line a lot at Wisconsin, and
Speaker 1: he just hasn't played that style here. Dwan Harris has
Speaker 1: never been a guy that's been consistently good at getting
Speaker 1: to the line. But we know we can do it,
Speaker 1: and it'd be nice to see that be a priority
Speaker 1: for a guy who's in his fifth year. Hunter Dickinson
Speaker 1: averaged five free throws a game two years ago at Michigan,
Speaker 1: and last year it went from four point eight to
Speaker 1: three point three. This year it's under three free throw
Speaker 1: attempts per game. So he's getting to he's getting the
Speaker 1: free throw line half of what he did at the
Speaker 1: height of his career. In that perspective, I think the
Speaker 1: first and foremost thing that is causing Kansas to not
Speaker 1: get to the free throw line is bad luck. I
Speaker 1: think that you will see not not as much bad luck.
Speaker 3: As has any problem Ryan. Actually, guys, yeah, it's just
Speaker 3: bad luck.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's take back luck and say
Speaker 1: bade two days. I think by default you will see
Speaker 1: it swing back, and they will dart. They don't get
Speaker 1: a lot of They don't seek contact as well as
Speaker 1: you'd like them too, but they certainly, they certainly don't
Speaker 1: seek it. Cam could go on forever with my greatest tints.
Speaker 1: It's true, but I do uh oh, heavan freaking wistle Landon,
Speaker 1: were you eating diapers when that game happened? That game
Speaker 1: was stupid.
Speaker 3: I remember being extremely angry at Evans that day.
Speaker 1: Gosh, I believe I looked at back at all one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty of him free games, and I don't
Speaker 1: think he made four threes in any of them.
Speaker 2: But that time, do you guys remember during that game,
Speaker 2: the Witchita State fans started doing like a rock shock
Speaker 2: chant at the end of ID It made it triggered
Speaker 2: me so bad, I.
Speaker 3: Think I like rage quit that game before it was over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was And speaking of uh so, okay, let
Speaker 1: me finish my free throw take and then then we'll
Speaker 1: tell Camas story.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know.
Speaker 1: I think that this is a that this collection of
Speaker 1: ten games, Kansas doesn't get to the free throw line
Speaker 1: as much as you like, But they are getting to
Speaker 1: the free throw line even less than their play suggests
Speaker 1: they should. I think that that will sway back into
Speaker 1: some positive regression. That doesn't mean they're gonna turn into
Speaker 1: the Zach Edie Purdue boiler Makers or anything. They've got
Speaker 1: to go to the cup more. There's a couple of
Speaker 1: stats going around on Twitter where you don't have to
Speaker 1: be a great team at getting to the free throw
Speaker 1: lines to be a great college basketball team, but you
Speaker 1: have to do one of two things. Well, you have
Speaker 1: to get to the cup quite a bit, or you
Speaker 1: have to shoot the three ball. Well. Right now, they're
Speaker 1: not doing either one of those things, and until they
Speaker 1: start doing one of those things consistently better, they're going
Speaker 1: to struggle to reach their ceiling. I expect Hunter who
Speaker 1: does get a bad whistle, he gets a bad whistle,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die on that hill. There are plenty of
Speaker 1: times throughout the course of a college basketball game that
Speaker 1: Hunter Dickinson could be called and go to the free
Speaker 1: throw line twice. But Kansas is not going to raise
Speaker 1: their free throw rate as a team with Hunter Dickinson.
Speaker 1: His career high is barely two more attempts per game
Speaker 1: than he's doing right now, which feels like nothing. Store
Speaker 1: Mayo and Griffin have to get to the cup. They're
Speaker 1: all eighty percent free throw shooters for their career. Those
Speaker 1: are the guys you want to go to the basket.
Speaker 1: They need to use their athleticism to get behind guys
Speaker 1: and get fouled. Also, one last thing something that I
Speaker 1: think this will change quickly. Big twelve refs like to
Speaker 1: call a lot of fouls when we get into the
Speaker 1: teeth of Big twelve games. Oh, there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of fouls, and we all know it. They'll get
Speaker 1: their free throw numbers. It's just right, we'll be This
Speaker 1: will not be much of a story in a few weeks.
Speaker 3: I think you're right on about your I think, especially
Speaker 3: for aj Store, not only should he for the benefit
Speaker 3: of the team, but for the benefit of himself. I
Speaker 3: think he should just drive the ball more.
Speaker 1: Griffin and Mayo. Have Griffin and Mayo, you have more confidence.
Speaker 1: If they don't drive to the basket, they can still
Speaker 1: hit enough jumpers where theoretically they should be fine. I
Speaker 1: don't think Stores in that camp up. He has to
Speaker 1: get to the line for his game.
Speaker 3: I agree to fall. Getting to the line and getting
Speaker 3: some of those to fall at least that might raise
Speaker 3: your confidence. You'll see, you know, number go up type
Speaker 3: stuff like you'll see your points increase. You'll see if
Speaker 3: you go through the hoop. I think that would be
Speaker 3: huge for him if you could do it. And I
Speaker 3: think that's the type of player he is. I thought
Speaker 3: he's gonna be a driver slasher. He's not really been that.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about him more.
Speaker 1: AJ Store is playing not nearly as much as he
Speaker 1: did last year. However, it is only an eight minutes
Speaker 1: per game decrease from last year, and he is getting
Speaker 1: to the free throw line four times less than he
Speaker 1: did last year. Last year at Wisconsin in twenty nine
Speaker 1: minutes a game, he got to the line four and
Speaker 1: a half times a game. This year in twenty one minutes,
Speaker 1: that is eight less. He is barely getting to the
Speaker 1: line once per game. That is less than twenty five
Speaker 1: percent of the free throw rate that he had last year.
Speaker 1: That's your biggest problem. You get Hunter to get back
Speaker 1: to his career average. There's two more. You get Store
Speaker 1: to get two or three more times per game. Every
Speaker 1: player that plays dominant minutes on this team needs to
Speaker 1: get to the free throw line two more times than
Speaker 1: they're doing right now. Just one draw one foul, go
Speaker 1: to the basket, draw a foul. Remember that one time
Speaker 1: where Dwan Harris went like twelve games in a row
Speaker 1: without shooting a free throw. Don't think we're gonna have
Speaker 1: it from him, Mayo, Store, Griffin, Dickinson, Adams, those five,
Speaker 1: each of them draws one more foul per game. That's
Speaker 1: ten more free throw attempts, and suddenly those numbers won't
Speaker 1: stick out like a sore thumb. And considering how much
Speaker 1: more fouls we see called in your average Big twelve
Speaker 1: game than your non con game, I don't think that
Speaker 1: that's a far fetched ask.
Speaker 3: Okaym if you have another point, go for it.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say me in charge eight eight, Well,
Speaker 2: no one's in charge of this point. We're all just
Speaker 2: driving the ship and it's crashing into the iceberg. Aj
Speaker 2: Storer could parachute from the Allenfield House rafters with the
Speaker 2: Ark of the Covenant and give it to Bill self
Speaker 2: and he still would be upset with him for not
Speaker 2: playing defense in practice. So I don't think any of
Speaker 2: this conversation matters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the That's the other thing, was Store Like,
Speaker 1: you look at Dickinson and you look Adams and you
Speaker 1: look at Harris and you think, Okay, we know what
Speaker 1: these guys are. I'd like to see him change this
Speaker 1: and that, but more or less, we know what they are.
Speaker 1: Store feels like he My hot take is aj Storre
Speaker 1: should be this team second best player. If he doesn't
Speaker 1: become a top five player on this team, then they're
Speaker 1: they're sunk.
Speaker 2: It's just mind boggling.
Speaker 3: I don't know he should.
Speaker 2: It's we talked about this, yeah, and we talked about
Speaker 2: it too. It's like Bill, he went into the portal
Speaker 2: and he gat this guy for a reason, and then
Speaker 2: he's just teaching him life lessons. Will having him sit
Speaker 2: on the bench because he didn't guard it even Wilders
Speaker 2: in practice, Like, what are we doing well?
Speaker 1: And so somebody on the local radio one of the
Speaker 1: local radio shows was talking about how this is not
Speaker 1: just a Kansas problem. The high majors transferring into other
Speaker 1: high majors across college basketball, those results have been kind
Speaker 1: of disappointing this year. You saw a team like Yukon
Speaker 1: put a lot of inventory into the transfer portal and
Speaker 1: they've had a rocky start to their season. You've seen
Speaker 1: a team like North Carolina they put a lot of
Speaker 1: eggs in the transfer portal basket. They have five losses
Speaker 1: and we're not even a Christmas. The teams that are
Speaker 1: dominating college basketball right now, teams like Tennessee, teams like Alabama.
Speaker 1: Those teams have proven that they can plug guys into
Speaker 1: a system, which in Tennessee's case is very slow and clunky,
Speaker 1: in an Alabama's case, is very fast and high paced,
Speaker 1: and those guys work. Kansas hasn't been proven that they
Speaker 1: can do that. And Self took guys like Store and
Speaker 1: Griffin that those systems were not like Kansas's. Those were
Speaker 1: not inside out basketball offenses that those guys played at.
Speaker 1: And I think it might be a little bit of
Speaker 1: what Landon said. It's kind of like whenever you're putting
Speaker 1: together a Madden team and you sign a ninety six
Speaker 1: quarterback and a ninety five running back and a ninety
Speaker 1: five receiver, You're like, Man, this team's gonna kick ass.
Speaker 1: In the real NFL, the super teams or NBA or whatever,
Speaker 1: it doesn't always work that way. I still think it could.
Speaker 1: The talent's there, the coach is very good, the ceiling
Speaker 1: are the floors set at a decently high clip when
Speaker 1: you have a twenty and ten center and a fiftier
Speaker 1: senior point guard. But will it all come together perfectly?
Speaker 1: It hasn't yet.
Speaker 3: How common, and that's one nothing right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, every team James Harden has ever been on that
Speaker 1: they put two other ninety five in NBA two K
Speaker 1: players next to him. It just doesn't work.
Speaker 2: I like how you alluded to North Carolina putting eggs
Speaker 2: in the basket, because I think that's really good foreshadow
Speaker 2: into Hubert Davis's next job, which will be Easter Bunny
Speaker 2: at the mall come April.
Speaker 1: I bet you were going to make how they can't
Speaker 1: put the ball in the basket.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's valid, but he sucks.
Speaker 1: Landon, Nick and I were very very much so on
Speaker 1: that camp from the beginning. That was that was always
Speaker 1: easy to see coming you guys, Landon, tell me about
Speaker 1: kJ you alluded to it, and yeah, let's go ahead,
Speaker 1: and let's go ahead and talk about him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, kJ Adams. He finished with six and six, which
Speaker 3: actually quite a few rebounds for kJ all things considered.
Speaker 1: Season high ducks.
Speaker 3: He got three for four from the floor.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: The key talking point from this game is a stretch
Speaker 3: in the second half and he was benched with four fouls,
Speaker 3: and the four guard offense for Kansas looked great. Hunter
Speaker 3: Dickinson did a bunch of cool stuff, freed up floor space.
Speaker 3: I certainly was a fan. I know Ryan was a fan.
Speaker 3: Cam I assume you were as well. I think you
Speaker 3: said as much earlier. And then Bill self said he
Speaker 3: didn't like it very much because Bill self, it's still
Speaker 3: Bill self.
Speaker 1: Bill sucks. Yeah, Bill, Bill, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: have that he sucks, he sucks, he sucks drop, but
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't even like that makes me sad.
Speaker 1: He sucks, he sucks, he sucks.
Speaker 2: There that that was Lucas Uh, it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was about Jamari Trailer I think, which they
Speaker 1: were kind of a player for a while there. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that that was Bill. But instead of he sucks, it
Speaker 1: was it sucks. And he was talking about said four
Speaker 1: guard lineup. They were gonna talk about the four guards
Speaker 1: that we should probably talk about these two Griffin Ryland
Speaker 1: Griffin got the start self is just pushing all the button.
Speaker 1: He's just he's just the the eight year old with
Speaker 1: the video game controller mashing buttons at this point with
Speaker 1: that starting spot, because quite Griffin's store, and uh, somebody
Speaker 1: else and somebody else started if you ever, Yeah, you got.
Speaker 3: A moderately incoherent team. I don't care, like, just see
Speaker 3: what works until something does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Griffin got the start, but he didn't
Speaker 1: do much with it. One for six on the floor,
Speaker 1: two points and plenty of playing time thirty one minutes.
Speaker 1: That's not gonna help. That's a lot Ran to give us.
Speaker 3: Been very underwhelming, guys.
Speaker 1: Don't let anyone else know.
Speaker 2: But he's not done much, so you're not wrong.
Speaker 1: It was also quiet one for three, three points in
Speaker 1: seventeen minutes, virtually no other stats log great.
Speaker 2: I think that the tip top of the Iceberg conspiracy
Speaker 2: about this team is that they're terrified to mess up
Speaker 2: under Bill self.
Speaker 1: I think that's true. I think that's very true. I
Speaker 1: mean store, at least my takeaway in this game, he
Speaker 1: didn't foul. This is the first time he didn't have
Speaker 1: or he didn't get into foul trouble. He had had
Speaker 1: four two, three, two and two fouls and pretty limited
Speaker 1: minutes in the last handful of games, so only one
Speaker 1: foul was nice. Yeah, Griffin, So Ryland Griffin gets the
Speaker 1: start on opening night, and we think, man, this, this
Speaker 1: is the this is gonna be just the plug and
Speaker 1: play guy. Here are Ryland Griffin's minutes since Michigan State
Speaker 1: thirty two, twenty twenty seventeen, sixteen thirteen. That is a
Speaker 1: straight downward slide graft. If if I showed you a
Speaker 1: if that stat came with a sound effect, it would
Speaker 1: be the the shoots and ladder slide down sound effect.
Speaker 1: And then Bill self, to his credit, says I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give him thirty one minutes in this game to get going,
Speaker 1: and he does f all with it and scores two points.
Speaker 1: Like that's the we can complain about self utilization of
Speaker 1: a lot of guys, no complaints. He tried Rylan Grippin
Speaker 1: for thirty one minutes and he did nothing.
Speaker 3: Uh, can I tell a story that's about Star Wars
Speaker 3: and then is also gonna be about basketball?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course to Cam's find.
Speaker 3: About them being afraid to fail made this come to mind.
Speaker 3: So George Lucas a flawed man and a flawed filmmaker,
Speaker 3: but he has a great idea for Star Wars, and
Speaker 3: I like Star Wars makes the first Star Wars. George
Speaker 3: Lucas has never ever been good in his entire life
Speaker 3: at writing dialogue, but he tries, bless his heart. In
Speaker 3: the first Star Wars movie, he writes the movie the
Speaker 3: dialogue is not very good, but you know, he's not
Speaker 3: George Lucas, and Star Wars isn't Star Wars yet, and
Speaker 3: so people like Harrison Ford, who are in that movie,
Speaker 3: and like Alec Guinness, who's like a great actor of
Speaker 3: the time, you know, go to George Lucas and they're like, George,
Speaker 3: this dialogue isn't very good. Can I change or they
Speaker 3: would improvise a line or something and it would be
Speaker 3: more fun, ord be more interesting or whatever. It would
Speaker 3: just work. It would come off the page a lot better,
Speaker 3: and then you end up getting a really good and
Speaker 3: really fun movie that is Star Wars, and that would
Speaker 3: continue for the next couple of movies because those actors
Speaker 3: worked with George, They built relationships with George. They like
Speaker 3: grew up together. Sixteen years ago by George Lucas makes
Speaker 3: the prequels. But now Star Wars is like the biggest
Speaker 3: thing in the history of the world. It's the biggest
Speaker 3: film franchise of all time. It's like the most popular
Speaker 3: thing ever. George Lucas decides to make the prequels, and
Speaker 3: he does. And George Lucas has not improved as a
Speaker 3: writer between these these movies. He's still a very bad
Speaker 3: dialogue writer. But now he's George Lucas, and Star Wars
Speaker 3: is Star Wars, and he brings in a bunch of
Speaker 3: very like mostly unknown, largely unknown actors or certainly even
Speaker 3: though like you know, Iwan McGregor Natalie Portman, you know,
Speaker 3: Sam Jackson's in those movies a little bit, like you know,
Speaker 3: some names that you know now, they weren't who they
Speaker 3: were then. They were much smaller actors, and some people
Speaker 3: that liked remained unknown even after. And George Lucas gives
Speaker 3: them the same bad dialogue that he did sixteen years ago.
Speaker 3: But now these actors are like, this is Star Wars,
Speaker 3: and I have to give this exactly how George Lucas
Speaker 3: gave it to me, because who am I to tell
Speaker 3: George Lucas anything? And you can tell because those movies, boy,
Speaker 3: they're not as good. Yeah. I like Revenge of the
Speaker 3: Sith quite a bit, but those movies sound so much
Speaker 3: worse than The dialogue is so much worse than it
Speaker 3: was back in the seventies and eighties. I think that
Speaker 3: is part of the transfer portal problem. Back in the day,
Speaker 3: Bill Self would recruits teams, they would grow up together,
Speaker 3: they would develop chemistry together, and there would be real
Speaker 3: relationships between the players and Bill Self and they would
Speaker 3: be friends that you see that in the senior like
Speaker 3: interviews or not interviews, but speeches the Bill they're joking
Speaker 3: about Bill self, are kind of making fun of him
Speaker 3: a little bit from time to time. You'd see the
Speaker 3: chemistry get Bilt over years. Transfer portal it's a lot different.
Speaker 3: They're coming to Kansas because it's Kansas. They're coming to
Speaker 3: Bill Self because he's Bill Self. They take a lot
Speaker 3: longer to develop a relationship. You don't see the melding
Speaker 3: of the team together. And I think Camp's point of
Speaker 3: they're afraid to mess up is kind of super valid.
Speaker 3: I think you can see that because they have Kansas
Speaker 3: on their chest and Bill Self, Hall of Fame coach
Speaker 3: is standing on the sideline and they're like, this guy's
Speaker 3: gonna bench me if I don't play well. And I
Speaker 3: think you can see that a little bit. I think
Speaker 3: you can see the lack of cohesion. That's very long
Speaker 3: winded but that is my point.
Speaker 1: I think it's a good way to sum it up, though,
Speaker 1: because Bill Self's best teams have come with rosters that
Speaker 1: you can marinate for a while and let them gel
Speaker 1: off the top of the dome. The best teams Bill
Speaker 1: self has had eight filled with juniors and seniors that
Speaker 1: sat there and watched for a while. Ten and eleven
Speaker 1: were great teams. They were led by the Morris twins
Speaker 1: and the cole Aldriches and and the guys who were
Speaker 1: shut the Sharon collins as who were juniors and seniors,
Speaker 1: and they were in the program for a while. The
Speaker 1: sixteen and seventeen teams start four seniors. You throw in
Speaker 1: a blue chip freshman with four seniors, and look how
Speaker 1: good they were. And the national title team had Christian Brown,
Speaker 1: David McCormick, Remy Martin was kind of the ad but
Speaker 1: o Chaia Baji sior, Christian Brown junior, David McCormick, senior
Speaker 1: guys that we openly question would they ever wind up
Speaker 1: being great at Kansas and they came together to win.
Speaker 1: The whole thing self has not had a lot of
Speaker 1: success from a team perspective with short term teams. Look
Speaker 1: at the one and done era Wiggins EMBIID. I know
Speaker 1: there was some injuries there. Team didn't win in the
Speaker 1: NCAA Tournament last year and twenty nineteen two teams that
Speaker 1: relied on transfers and guys to come in here and
Speaker 1: short term make an impact didn't go very well. Hasn't
Speaker 1: gone real great so far this year from the early
Speaker 1: returns CAM. Is it bad luck or is Bill self
Speaker 1: is I don't want to say, is the game passing
Speaker 1: him by because he's he's on a national title two
Speaker 1: years ago, But clearly this is not as as easy.
Speaker 1: This isn't this This is a transitioning period for Bill's
Speaker 1: self as it is everybody else with the transfer portal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's definitely different. I actually was thinking
Speaker 2: about this earlier. His best teams obviously came with seniors
Speaker 2: and players that developed in his system, and he's not
Speaker 2: had much success with one and done players. These aren't
Speaker 2: always one and done players from the transfer portal, obviously,
Speaker 2: But I do think that it's a different time for
Speaker 2: college athletics, especially basketball. And I mean he's as good
Speaker 2: as anyone from an X and O standpoint, I don't
Speaker 2: know if his system works well for guys coming in
Speaker 2: right away from different schools. We'll see so.
Speaker 1: Everybody else here in these notes, just to kind of
Speaker 1: throw everybody else on the table. Dwan Harris had one
Speaker 1: of the quietest fifteen and six games you'll ever see.
Speaker 1: He was six for eleven and thirty six minutes. He's
Speaker 1: a very good basketball player. He's fun to watch. Florid,
Speaker 1: but Doongat held four times in eight minutes in an
Speaker 1: ode to aj Store in a first half that had
Speaker 1: Allen field House up in arms about the refs. Instead
Speaker 1: of playing Zach at or, instead of playing kJ Adams
Speaker 1: at the five, Bill self kept swapping Flori and Zach
Speaker 1: Clemens in there because Hunter had two fouls and therefore
Speaker 1: could not step foot on the floor until after halftime.
Speaker 1: That didn't work. Really took me.
Speaker 3: Back to him just throwing Mitch lightfoot out on the
Speaker 3: floor endlessly in Mitch's life sophomore year. It was like, Bill,
Speaker 3: what do you think is gonna happen? Buddy? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And the and Hunter Dickinson averages one foul every
Speaker 1: fourteen minutes in his time at Kansas. He's okay to
Speaker 1: play with two, Actually, he's okay to play with three.
Speaker 1: In the first half if you wanted him to. Flori
Speaker 1: didn't have any points. Neither did Clemens. Hit All zat
Speaker 1: Clemens did in the static card is his foul rookie's
Speaker 1: Passmore did not play David Koit made a three and
Speaker 1: nine minutes and shack Moore, who is I guess still
Speaker 1: gonna go through this. I guess they're not gonna red
Speaker 1: shirt him, played two minutes at the very end, and
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 3: In the middle of Shackmore played the first half.
Speaker 1: Oh okay. That goes to show how well I was
Speaker 1: paying attention. I was working in the first half, and
Speaker 1: I heard Brian Haney say when Ryle Griffin loft at
Speaker 1: a three, oh Ryland wants to get in on the
Speaker 1: three point party. And then it missed. And the reason
Speaker 1: it missed is because Brian Haney said that blasphemously idiotic,
Speaker 1: stupid ass thing right as he shot the ball. If
Speaker 1: he didn't say that, if he just like a normal announcer, said,
Speaker 1: oh Ryland Griffin is gonna take a three, it would
Speaker 1: have splashed through the net. It's your fault, Brian Haney.
Speaker 1: You should leave go, leave lee it to Siberia and
Speaker 1: never come back.
Speaker 2: Would you rather have Brian Haney commentate every moment of
Speaker 2: your life. The second year.
Speaker 1: Second, the second thing can be diabetes and syphilis and
Speaker 1: chlamydia all at once. And I'm taking that over Brian
Speaker 1: Haney getting near me.
Speaker 2: No, it's just asking if he if you wanted to
Speaker 2: read your eulogy at your funeral, you went way too
Speaker 2: dark man.
Speaker 1: Oh one more time. Never go when i CP goes
Speaker 1: darker than funerals. I don't want Brian Haney to get
Speaker 1: anywhere near me. As nice as that man is. He
Speaker 1: was on Hawk Talk to night because oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I've told the story of how I'm tired of working
Speaker 1: Wednesday nights out on as a delivery driver because that's
Speaker 1: Hawk Talk Night, and I have to listen to Brian Haney,
Speaker 1: and he was with He was with Jeremy Case tonight
Speaker 1: because Bill self pulled one of Landon's load management. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna take Tonight off sticks. Uh So, Jeremy Case
Speaker 1: and Brian Haney are talking about how awesome Zach Clemens
Speaker 1: has been in limited minutes this year, and I about
Speaker 1: swerved off the road. Gave me, as Landon said Mitch
Speaker 1: Lightfoot Live when he would go score three points and
Speaker 1: already be like, wow, we would be eft without Mitch Lightfoot,
Speaker 1: and then o Chaya Baji would miss two threes and
Speaker 1: otherwise score twenty three and we'd be like, man, he
Speaker 1: almost lost the game for him. There can't do it.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Somebody make it make sense. God,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be Brian Hamy. He's just gonna read
Speaker 1: stats like the price is right host that he would
Speaker 1: never got to be.
Speaker 3: I'm gonnaective with one hundred percent less poetry.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's freaking unbelievable. I didn't even find the final
Speaker 1: stat lines here. Here they are Kansas overall, these numbers
Speaker 1: are all good. Fifty seven percent from the floor, forty
Speaker 1: two percent from three to seventy one percent of the line.
Speaker 1: They did turn it over thirteen times, but they were
Speaker 1: playing faster than they typically did. They're also plus ten
Speaker 1: on the glass against a very good rebounding team. Overall,
Speaker 1: I think they get a B plus for this game.
Speaker 1: Few more free throws would have pushed it into the a's.
Speaker 1: They played fine, their best players played like their best players,
Speaker 1: and if they get Elite Knights out of Hunter, Dickinson
Speaker 1: and Zeke Mayo. They're gonna beat whoever's in front of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's coragree. Brian Haney is like if
Speaker 2: Robert Frost developed a severe drinking problem and ended up
Speaker 2: as a college basketball commentator.
Speaker 1: Big Twelve Games, as I believe, this is the penultimate
Speaker 1: episode before Big twelve Games is a thing. When this
Speaker 1: year we'll have what how many damn games a week?
Speaker 1: There's sixteen teams in this league, so that means we
Speaker 1: have eight games landon. You remember the good old days
Speaker 1: where we just had four other Big twelve games to recap.
Speaker 1: Now we'll have seven forgettable, awful basketball games.
Speaker 3: I do it was a simpler time.
Speaker 1: Hey, And like this show is gonna get real bleak
Speaker 1: when the four and three Jayhawks we've just recapped another loss,
Speaker 1: trying to tell everyone it'll be okay, and then we
Speaker 1: have to talk about Arizona State sixty one, Utah fifty eight,
Speaker 1: trying to find a stat for this game. Nothing interesting happened.
Speaker 1: At least Doug Gottlie doesn't coach either of those teams.
Speaker 1: We'll talk all about him and the Big Twelve. Despite
Speaker 1: trailing for most of the night, a late rally carry
Speaker 1: Number three Iowa State passed in state rival Iowa on
Speaker 1: the road eighty nine to eighty. Is fran McCaffrey still
Speaker 1: to coach there? I was thinking about that. He's been
Speaker 1: there for about one hundred years, I think, so they
Speaker 1: didn't give up on that one yet. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: good for them, they're getting what they what they could
Speaker 1: have expected. Joshua Jefferson, ancient relative of our our nation's
Speaker 1: third president, had nineteen and ten. Curtis Jones came off
Speaker 1: the bench and scored twenty three points. Fun fact, the
Speaker 1: last time the Jayhawks had a guy come off the
Speaker 1: bench and scored twenty three points came when Harry S.
Speaker 1: Truman was the president. I'm pretty sure College Basketball Reference
Speaker 1: it wasn't loading properly, but that sounds about right, so
Speaker 1: we'll roll with it.
Speaker 2: Is i also was a freshman?
Speaker 1: There you go, it was probably Parry ELS's. That's the joke.
Speaker 1: I should have darn it, Cam, I should have said
Speaker 1: that was when Frank Harry Els was a sophomore at Kansas.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is Iowa State the best team in the Big twelve.
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 2: For sure? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Ain't close. That seems good. And also we talk about
Speaker 1: a team we just talked about how a lot of
Speaker 1: coaches are struggling to get transfers to come into their
Speaker 1: program and play their brand of basketball at a high
Speaker 1: levels seamlessly. That is what tj Olzolberger has done. It
Speaker 1: does not matter who they plug into that system. Every
Speaker 1: Iowa State team is made up the same way. They
Speaker 1: are scrappy, they defend, they don't turn the ball over,
Speaker 1: but they'll force a hell of a lot of turnovers.
Speaker 1: They'll burn you in transition, and they'll be damn near
Speaker 1: unstoppable at home. That's every Iowa.
Speaker 3: State, Iowa State tradition. Transfer you yeah.
Speaker 1: Hey, we'll talk about we'll talk about nobody you here
Speaker 1: in a little bit, but for now, Land and tell
Speaker 1: me about overtang being no more.
Speaker 3: True Tang you uh, the unthinkable that's becoming consistently more
Speaker 3: thinkable as the season goes on. Happened Jerome Tang has
Speaker 3: lost a game in overtime. Case State lost their fourth
Speaker 3: game of the year already KSE State was twenty in
Speaker 3: the first half to Drake When to come back, they
Speaker 3: forced overtime just to lose seventy three to seventy on
Speaker 3: a last second three by white Guy of the game
Speaker 3: Bennett Steer, It's that's a great name. Earlier in the week,
Speaker 3: Tang described his relationship with point guard Doug McDaniel as
Speaker 3: just okay. I think he even said, like, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: say it's great, it's just okay. Yeah, ringing endorsement. The
Speaker 3: Wildcats are six and four and their best win is
Speaker 3: probably former President George Washington, who they defeated because he's
Speaker 3: been dead for two hundred years. So that's sound a
Speaker 3: great look for the Cats.
Speaker 1: I'll give you a rational Case State take, and then
Speaker 1: Cam you can teeoff laughing at their patheticness. Kansas State
Speaker 1: needed this game badly. They had struck out on their
Speaker 1: only top one hundred Ken Palm opponents. They had lost
Speaker 1: the Liberty, they lost to LSU. These were teams, okay,
Speaker 1: you look at the schedule. They really needed to get
Speaker 1: this one done. Drake is nine to oh they're one
Speaker 1: of four undefeated teams in the country and they were
Speaker 1: a one point favorite. Case State was you gotta win this.
Speaker 1: You had to win this one and then Wichita State
Speaker 1: so at the end of the year you can have
Speaker 1: your mediocre Big twelve record and still show the committee,
Speaker 1: hey we went five hundred and in our toughest non
Speaker 1: con games, and then we won enough quality games in
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve we should be in now. I don't
Speaker 1: know what they're supposed to do. They probably got to
Speaker 1: win like eleven Big Twelve games to get in the
Speaker 1: tournament now, and I don't know how you're betting on that.
Speaker 1: Jerome Tang called Taman Lipsey the biggest flopper in the
Speaker 1: Big Twelve last year, and that team has torpedoed since.
Speaker 1: I think he's already burned a lot of that good
Speaker 1: grace that he was on cloud nine after that first year,
Speaker 1: and now Bruce Webber's best player was Marquise Noel. That's
Speaker 1: the reason that team went as deep as they did.
Speaker 1: He cannot do anything right. Darome Tang, Kansas State. It's bad, okay, Cam,
Speaker 1: I know you're dying to laugh at them. Go for it.
Speaker 2: H Yeah, No, they suck. Colevin Hawkins two million dollar
Speaker 2: men should be flipping murders. Jerome Tang not sure what
Speaker 2: he's doing. Doug McDaniel, it's a shame he can't read
Speaker 2: the tweets on Twitter because they probably aren't very nice
Speaker 2: to him. And then also I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 2: Will they make the NCAA Tournament, No, I won't. I
Speaker 2: don't think they will.
Speaker 1: Close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah they can't, they would. You're probably right. They
Speaker 2: need to win probably maybe even twelve Big twelve games. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: they and they're at home.
Speaker 1: They'll they'll get some teams at home. They'll probably beat
Speaker 1: Kansas in overtime. But like they're they're man, they're gonna
Speaker 1: have a run in Big twelve plays where then we're
Speaker 1: talking about like, hey, they're kind of back in the
Speaker 1: conversation if they just win three of their next four
Speaker 1: and they won't. Uh, and yeah, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: money and a lot of names on that roster to
Speaker 1: be this bad Tang cannot draw.
Speaker 2: The fans have turned yes, yeah, the fans have turned
Speaker 2: Old Tang big time. Well, he's crazy.
Speaker 1: He kind of just breeds loser energy.
Speaker 2: I don't know, he's just like he's a weird dude.
Speaker 1: He's a very weird dude. And like he takes off
Speaker 1: his shoes and sticks him up on the feet of
Speaker 1: air on airplanes. And that's not even one of the
Speaker 1: five weirdest things I've seen him do. Like yuck, not great, Okay.
Speaker 1: Cam recapped the rest of the Big twelve ths. Not
Speaker 1: everybody is lucky enough to have Jerome Tang as their coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, most Big twelve teams played cupcakes this cupcakes this week,
Speaker 2: just like Brett Belima from Illinois who eats cupcakes cupcakes
Speaker 2: every week. But three teams took losses all the quality teams.
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State wasn't competitive against number thirteen Oklahoma and a
Speaker 2: fifteen point neutral site loss. The Sooners are ten and zer.
Speaker 2: Arizona State wasn't competitive in a seventeen point loss in
Speaker 2: number nine Florida. By the way, Florida is very good.
Speaker 2: And then there's Arizona, who built, who built a thirteen
Speaker 2: point lead halfway through the second half against the UCLA
Speaker 2: team that struggles to score just to blow into facto
Speaker 2: home game by failing to make a basket in the
Speaker 2: final nine minutes of the game. I did like Arizona there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they scored five points in the final eleven minutes. They're
Speaker 2: four and five and they have zero quality wins.
Speaker 1: Landon. I don't know about you, but I am baffled
Speaker 1: that a team that puts Caleb Love as the primary
Speaker 1: alpha and their offense isn't very good at getting clutch
Speaker 1: shots down the stretch.
Speaker 2: Up games.
Speaker 3: I've actually never seen him not be clutch at the
Speaker 3: end of game. Oh wait, no, forget that's every game
Speaker 3: he's played.
Speaker 1: That's what except for against Coach K. He put the
Speaker 1: ice pick in Coach K's head twice at the end
Speaker 1: of his career. That's what Arizona.
Speaker 3: Got him a lot of nil money.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh yes, exactly two baskets. He also took the
Speaker 1: game winning or the game tying three attempt against Kansas
Speaker 1: in the tournament, and it missed everything.
Speaker 2: It hit some.
Speaker 1: It was kind of Jason Bean against Arkansas for the
Speaker 1: two point play vibes because it wasn't even Yes, that's
Speaker 1: Lee Harvest down.
Speaker 3: Two more monetarily valuable shots in the history of college basketball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean seriously, that that shot is what made him.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a first team All American this
Speaker 1: year in the preseason, and that's just I don't get it.
Speaker 1: He's two thirteen, three for thirteen, and three for ten
Speaker 1: now in the last three losses for Arizona. Not your
Speaker 1: your senior, fifth year senior guy. He should be a
Speaker 1: guy you can go expect to get you a bucket
Speaker 1: when things are tough and not only can he not
Speaker 1: do that, sometimes he doesn't do that ever other games,
Speaker 1: newly minted number one Tennessee passed its first test as
Speaker 1: the top ranked team in the country. They got a
Speaker 1: buzzer beating layoup by Jordan Gainey to break a tie
Speaker 1: and pull off a sixty six to sixty four at
Speaker 1: Illinois in an environment that was both very loud and
Speaker 1: very orange. It is the Vall's best start since nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety nine, which was four years before the last time
Speaker 1: Rick Barnes made a Final Four. He hasn't made one
Speaker 1: in twenty one years. Maybe this is the time, Lucy
Speaker 1: will let you kick that football, Charlie, Rick Barrown Barnes.
Speaker 1: Just go ahead and pencil Tennessee in the Final four
Speaker 1: this year. I promise it will go fine.
Speaker 2: Don't have.
Speaker 3: Number five. Kentucky hung ninety three on Lousville and beat
Speaker 3: them by eight points, getting thirty three from the Mott
Speaker 3: Butler who didn't even play in the road wind Overgonzaga
Speaker 3: last week. I think he has played this season like
Speaker 3: a decent amount, but that is a heck of a
Speaker 3: comeback either way. The Wildcats, I think they're pretty good.
Speaker 3: I really get it quite good.
Speaker 1: Amazing what happens when you get a good coach down there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that seems to be the difference.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The highest ranked team to lose was number six Marquette,
Speaker 2: who lost at Dayton and game that reminded all of
Speaker 2: us that Shaka Smart is still their coach. There were
Speaker 2: lots of tough matchups. Most of the ring teams pass
Speaker 2: their tests, with number sixteen Clemson losing to Memphis in
Speaker 2: overtime at home being one of the rare instances of
Speaker 2: the favorite losing.
Speaker 1: The holiday hoops giving event in Atlanta featured two blowouts.
Speaker 1: It was boring Number nine Florida, who is one of
Speaker 1: four undefeated teams. As Cam alluded to, they're very good.
Speaker 1: They blew out Big twelve team Arizona State, and in
Speaker 1: an early contender for worst pick them call of the Year, Ryan,
Speaker 1: that's me, Hello, myself picked Ohio State to upset number
Speaker 1: two Auburn, only to see hold on here, let me
Speaker 1: let me just put it into the calculator and see all.
Speaker 1: I was only wrong by thirty eight points. The final
Speaker 1: score was ninety one to fifty three, and no, it
Speaker 1: wasn't that close. It took some garbage time getting it there.
Speaker 1: I'm just happy that my coach has never gotten blown
Speaker 1: out by Auburn on a neutral flooring to Florida.
Speaker 3: They beat North Carolina this week. Ninety eighty four who
Speaker 3: has dropped the tar Heels to six and five twenty
Speaker 3: nine from r J statsis who continues to be very good.
Speaker 3: You and C to their credit, has played Kansas, Auburn,
Speaker 3: Michigan State, Alabama, and Florida this year. Not an easy schedule,
Speaker 3: but also not great to go oh and five in
Speaker 3: your games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing that against uh? I mean, who are
Speaker 1: the coaches there? I mean, you got Kansas, they got
Speaker 1: a good coach, Auburn's got a good coach, Michigan State's
Speaker 1: got a good coach, Alabama's got a good coach, and
Speaker 1: Florida's undefeated, pretty well coached teams. How that truly shot
Speaker 1: coachas can Oh it's the guy who is it?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Boy?
Speaker 1: I don't even know the answer.
Speaker 2: I don't even know.
Speaker 1: Todd Golden. Oh is the Arizona State guy, right?
Speaker 2: Is he?
Speaker 4: He?
Speaker 2: I don't know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Todd Golden coach that they played? Who the hell
Speaker 1: did he coach before? This did he? Oh he was
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Remember San Francisco and Murray State played a
Speaker 1: really interesting uh yes, in state tournament game and that's
Speaker 1: what got them to hire Yeah, so five well coach
Speaker 1: teams and Hubert Davis is OZ four. That's because he's bad.
Speaker 1: He's awful at this, yes, but he's really good at stiff.
Speaker 3: You have a guy like RJ. Davis, though, who theoretically
Speaker 3: would be like first team All America level good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hard to do, no, he is. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Number eighteen Yukon might be fixed, as they all played
Speaker 2: number eight Gonzaga down the stretch and beat the Bulldogs
Speaker 2: seventy seven to seventy one in Madison Square Garden. Leam
Speaker 2: McNeely scored twenty six points, and Dan Hurley said that
Speaker 2: he himself is very good for college sports.
Speaker 1: That's just a totally normous thing to say that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a totally normal thing for a totally normal guy
Speaker 1: to think. And I really would I would love to
Speaker 1: piss on Gonzaga's grave because nobody deserves it more than them.
Speaker 1: But I really can't even do that because every time
Speaker 1: my team plays them, they get absolutely boat raced in
Speaker 1: a big setting like I want. I don't even get
Speaker 1: enjoyment at I'm pointing out how this lousy Gonzaga team
Speaker 1: is gonna go seventeen for their next eighteen and get
Speaker 1: a seed that's way higher than they should because if
Speaker 1: they play Kansas, I know how that's gonna go. And
Speaker 1: I picked them to win the game last year. As
Speaker 1: Cam nicely pointed out earlier, it's awful Landa. Do you
Speaker 1: like Dan Hurley?
Speaker 3: No, I do not like Dan Hurley.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're alone in that one. Cam loves
Speaker 1: Dan Hurley, though he said that he hopes that he
Speaker 1: coaches Kansas.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dan Hurley is the Angel Reese of college basketball coaches.
Speaker 3: So some other new Tony Bennett that if he ever
Speaker 3: coached Kansas, we would root for a different team.
Speaker 1: No, because Dan Hurley, we would like him if he
Speaker 1: if he coached Kansas, he'd be like Hunter Dickens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you'd like him if he was on your team. Well,
Speaker 1: Landon might not. Landon's too nice sell out. If they
Speaker 1: won enough games, I'd sign up for all the crap
Speaker 1: they're selling for sure. So this is kind of difficult
Speaker 1: because we're talking about last week's results and some of
Speaker 1: this week's results. So number seven Alabama took down a
Speaker 1: game but shorthanded Creighton squad by eight, and then they
Speaker 1: just freaking barely as a twenty five point favorite. Tonight
Speaker 1: won a road game at North Dakota, who is four
Speaker 1: and nine because North Carol Or did I say North
Speaker 1: Carolina or North Dakota? What did I say North Dakota? Okay,
Speaker 1: so I was correct. Yes, North Dakota made seventeen damn
Speaker 1: threes on Alabama to night and it wasn't enough to win.
Speaker 1: Ninety seven to ninety was the final score. Oh Nate Oates,
Speaker 1: take my heart and do what you will with it.
Speaker 1: Number eleven Perdue lost the number seventeen texts A and
Speaker 1: M because they thought it was an NCAA game and
Speaker 1: they thought they were supposed to lose. Chris Beard's old
Speaker 1: Miss was the Chris Beard and Southern Mississippi played the
Speaker 1: role of Chris Beard's wife in a thirty one point
Speaker 1: and none of these games will be remembered one day
Speaker 1: when you face your inevitable and potentially painful death.
Speaker 2: Welcome inside the politics and death all at once.
Speaker 3: You get it all weirder paragraphs that I think we've
Speaker 3: ever had on the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in I don't know if I was
Speaker 1: in a really good or not very good state of
Speaker 1: mind when I wrote that. Also didn't really I realized
Speaker 1: halfway through that sentence, I really didn't care about any
Speaker 1: of these results.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Which do State lost to UMKC?
Speaker 3: Which I will consider my read so that Cam can
Speaker 3: read the next part.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was funny, by the way. So UMKC, by
Speaker 1: the way, was picked to win the summ at least,
Speaker 1: it feels like they have not ever been decent in
Speaker 1: my lifetime. And there's I mean, the Kansas City is
Speaker 1: a decent enough recruiting area, Like it feels like they
Speaker 1: should be okay more often than they're not. Big one
Speaker 1: for them, they were a ten point dogs.
Speaker 3: I think they're injured.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Which do State's pretty beat up? And which State
Speaker 1: also plays?
Speaker 3: I mean UMKC. I think UMKC is injured, but like
Speaker 3: they like seven and seven, but they got the win.
Speaker 3: They got the win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Which to State plays k State next week in
Speaker 1: a stuper Bowl or a toilet bowl, whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call it. It's gonna be a horrendous basketball game, hopefully.
Speaker 1: Jerome Tang doesn't take his shoes off.
Speaker 2: Gross.
Speaker 1: Okay, Cam, you have Gross wanted to tell me about
Speaker 1: Jerome Tang is not the worst coach we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about on the show.
Speaker 2: Nope, Nope, speaking of Gross. Doug Gottlieb, who eats kal
Speaker 2: manure for fun and calls it fudge. His team lost
Speaker 2: to Michigan Tech, who competes in the Gliac Conference, which
Speaker 2: is a conference that I played college golf in, which
Speaker 2: tells you a lot.
Speaker 3: After calling the University of my dad worked.
Speaker 2: For, yeah, yeah, yeah, and uh, he called them nobody
Speaker 2: you and complained about scheduling them and then went on
Speaker 2: to lose. You should have stuck to radio, Doug.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Doug Gottlieb, Man, I think that the analogy Doug
Speaker 1: Gottlieb is what people thought coach Prime would be at Colorado.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb insists on doing this stupid radio show while
Speaker 1: being a coach. Green Bay is three and eight, they've
Speaker 1: lost six in a row, and he gets up there
Speaker 1: in front of the report and say, look, I'm not
Speaker 1: happy we're playing nobody you this week and nobody you,
Speaker 1: referring to that D two school in Michigan Tech, who
Speaker 1: then beat them on their own floor. And then after
Speaker 1: the game, Doug Gottlieb does what every sane coach does.
Speaker 1: He gets on Twitter and says, we've been scheduling up
Speaker 1: all year and Michigan Tech was a really tough team
Speaker 1: to schedule. Boy, they were a D two team and
Speaker 1: you called them nobody? You yourself, what are we doing
Speaker 1: why green Bay? Like green Bay's hire of that was
Speaker 1: just to sell some tickets. And I can't imagine It's
Speaker 1: like I would fire him midseason. This is an absolute joke,
Speaker 1: Like what a clown?
Speaker 2: He sucks pretty not good, real bad.
Speaker 1: How about this game though, the Tennessee women not the
Speaker 1: one coach by Rick Barnes. The women's team played North
Speaker 1: Carolina Central and won in a close one one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty nine to fifty nine. They made forty count
Speaker 1: the thirty threes, thirty of sixty three. It's the most
Speaker 1: any college basketball team ever has made in a D
Speaker 1: one game. North Carolina Central, by the way, is oh
Speaker 1: to twelve. Speaking of nobody, U, I think that's who
Speaker 1: we should call them. You could call them nobody. You
Speaker 1: could just abbreviate them as N and then two little
Speaker 1: c's with the U on the end of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they suck. Do you guys know what their mascot is?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: They played They played Kansas in the NCAA tournament. Right then,
Speaker 1: that seems like a team that Kansas has played, I.
Speaker 3: Think the Eagles or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Eagles. I was gonna say the DraftKings logo because
Speaker 2: their value money line pick.
Speaker 1: But so that was Kansas's season opener last year at
Speaker 1: Allen Fieldhouse. Kansas beat them ninety nine to fifty six,
Speaker 1: and a game that Sansus' fifth final four of the
Speaker 1: Bill Self era, right right, let me just look up Wikipedia. Actually, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm now finding out that.
Speaker 2: That huge in the middle of that one too as.
Speaker 1: Well as we thought so, and that was pretty much
Speaker 1: everything else. Michigan and Oklahoma are playing on a game
Speaker 1: that's going down to the wire that I believe Cam
Speaker 1: bet a few bucks on. Oklahoma is currently down with
Speaker 1: ten seconds left, and I have all theas in the
Speaker 1: world that Poeter Emoser will not blow this, and I
Speaker 1: think that they just made a big shot. So we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens there. Other than that, right, teams to lose.
Speaker 1: Since the last time we did a podcast, number six
Speaker 1: Marquette lost to Dayton.
Speaker 3: Number eight Gonzaga to Yukon.
Speaker 2: Number eleven Purdue to Johnny Manziel in Texas, A and M.
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel was so fun to watch. Man seriously still
Speaker 1: my favorite college football player to watch of all time.
Speaker 1: I was convinced that he, you know, he so Cleveland
Speaker 1: traded up right in front of the at the time
Speaker 1: needed in a quarterback, Kansas City Chiefs, and I was
Speaker 1: so upset because I wanted Johnny Manziel to land in
Speaker 1: Kansas City so bad and it didn't. It wouldn't have worked.
Speaker 1: I don't think land and I don't know how you
Speaker 1: feel about that one.
Speaker 3: I think it would have went.
Speaker 1: Very poorly, but it would have been cool and I
Speaker 1: would have gone out and bought a jersey right away.
Speaker 1: Glad that I didn't do that. Number sixteen Clemson lost
Speaker 1: to Memphis in overtime.
Speaker 3: And then number twenty five Clemson the next week lost
Speaker 3: to South Carolina.
Speaker 1: Also in overtime. They are like the opposite of Jerome
Speaker 1: Tang and Oklahoma maybe on this list in ten seconds,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just see a lot of yelling
Speaker 1: last weekend pick them. We all did pretty poorly cam
Speaker 1: He went six and four and that was enough for
Speaker 1: a trophy this week. If that goes to show how
Speaker 1: Sagas was allegedly Michigan for the win up nothing, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: the game is over. Porter Moser is eleven and oh
Speaker 1: so add number twenty four. Michigan lost the Porter Moser.
Speaker 1: That should be an insta three year tournament ban. Undefeated
Speaker 1: teams in college basketball. There's four of them. There's Tennessee,
Speaker 1: there's Oklahoma, there's Drake and who's the other one. There's
Speaker 1: one more Florida. Yeah, Florida. Those are the only fo
Speaker 1: That's all you got.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: As they show sad Michigan fans, who I bet they
Speaker 1: wish that they had Hunter Dickinson back right about now,
Speaker 1: we do ask RCB, and this is gonna be pretty
Speaker 1: fun because this might be the last pod we do
Speaker 1: before Christmas. So of course there's some Christmas themed questions
Speaker 1: and we begin with two, count them, two questions about
Speaker 1: Christmas movies from at Ryan Underscore Landreth and at Dick
Speaker 1: Underscore Taser, proving once and for all that myself and
Speaker 1: Wane Kerr are soulmates. Ryan Landreth says, what are your
Speaker 1: thoughts about the indisputable top three of all time Christmas
Speaker 1: movie that is a Christmas Story.
Speaker 3: Just one of my thoughts on that movie in particular.
Speaker 1: Yes, you were quiet because you were collecting the positive
Speaker 1: adjectives that you would like to use to describe a
Speaker 1: Christmas Story, which is an outstanding movie that has us
Speaker 1: all laughing.
Speaker 2: That's landing.
Speaker 1: Whenever they kid can't put his hands down in the
Speaker 1: Christmas Story movie.
Speaker 3: I do laugh at that. That is hilarious. There are
Speaker 3: funny scenes in that fairly annoying movie.
Speaker 2: I think it's good.
Speaker 1: So I grew up on a Christmas Story the twenty
Speaker 1: four Hours of a Christmas Story marathon. Yeah, okay, so okay,
Speaker 1: I'm very interested. Then Cam has that movie age like
Speaker 1: milk to you? Do you think it's bad?
Speaker 2: Now? I don't think it's bad. I just think I've
Speaker 2: watched it too many times.
Speaker 1: I think if you muted it, I think I could
Speaker 1: do the narrator's part. I think I've seen that movie
Speaker 1: so many times. Ryan Landers says, what are your favorite
Speaker 1: three Christmas movies? But not so fast because Dick underscore
Speaker 1: Taser says, this is the undisputed list of top three
Speaker 1: Christmas movies of the last two thousand years. This is interesting.
Speaker 1: Dick underscore Taser says number three is Harold and Kumar Christmas,
Speaker 1: Number two is Office Christmas, and number one is The
Speaker 1: Night Before. Have you seen all of them? And do
Speaker 1: you dare try to have thrown any of them?
Speaker 3: I've not seen any of those.
Speaker 1: I have not either.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen any of those either. Actually I didn't
Speaker 2: know what half those were.
Speaker 1: That's unbelievable because I love a good Christmas movie. So,
Speaker 1: Wayne Kerr, I have some homework to do over these
Speaker 1: next couple of days. I think because I'm my top
Speaker 1: three Christmas movie list is probably gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: more boring. The undisputed best Christmas movie ever, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: is a Christmas Story. It's one two is elf. Anybody
Speaker 1: who doesn't have that in the top three you can't
Speaker 1: be serious. That's a classic in every sense of the word.
Speaker 1: And number three, I could go a lot of different ways.
Speaker 1: There's some new Netflix movies that will be on there.
Speaker 1: I could say Holiday Touchdown at Cheekstram Oh yeah, no, okay, no,
Speaker 1: I won't go that far. I think if I had
Speaker 1: to say number three, I would say why him? It
Speaker 1: came out a couple of years ago. It's a James
Speaker 1: Franco movie where he's this lunatic and Brian Craniston is
Speaker 1: excited to meet his daughter's boyfriend just to find out
Speaker 1: that James Franco is a lunatic. Pretty good, pretty funny
Speaker 1: Christmas movie. Those are my top three, land and go
Speaker 1: ahead and get it out of the way, say fifty
Speaker 1: fourth Street and uh and and and It's a Wonderful Life.
Speaker 1: A bunch of times.
Speaker 3: It's a wonderful life. It is a really good movie.
Speaker 1: And also it's thirty fourth Christmas movie. It's thirty fourth Street.
Speaker 3: On thirty fourth Street. Yep, that's like an yeah, fifty
Speaker 3: fourth Street bar and girl, that's an okay one. I
Speaker 3: honestly don't watch a lot of Christmas movies, to be
Speaker 3: quite honest, I I don't really Uh, I don't really
Speaker 3: care about Christmas movies that much. Elf I would say
Speaker 3: is on there and uh, the the taste or the
Speaker 3: pick that will have some rage quit this podcast is
Speaker 3: polar Express.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, no, no, you can't say that.
Speaker 1: I've never come out of my chair like that on
Speaker 1: this podcast. And almost five hundred shows that movie is
Speaker 1: so bad landed.
Speaker 2: How do you.
Speaker 1: Watch that and not want to one kill that annoying
Speaker 1: little twarp in the first half of the movie.
Speaker 3: You want to do that? Oh my god, I want.
Speaker 1: To do And when that golden ticket, that scene that
Speaker 1: goes on for twenty minutes, when that golden ticket's flying
Speaker 1: around just the land right back in the train. No,
Speaker 1: how how woud can you have that in your top three?
Speaker 3: I like it. It looks ghastly, Don't get me wrong, it
Speaker 3: was crazy, looks very good. I like the story. What
Speaker 3: can I say? I like the story. I like when
Speaker 3: you meet Santa Claus.
Speaker 1: That's the that is that's the Doug Gottlieb of Christmas movies.
Speaker 2: Yuck, that's wild. Can say?
Speaker 3: Yeah, watch a lot of Christmas movies.
Speaker 1: I got Home Alone one, Okay, that's solid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Home Alone a Christmas story. And then I'm actually
Speaker 2: gonna go kind of sideways here. I'm gonna say the
Speaker 2: original Frosty the snow Man not even good. I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna go with that.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 3: My real answer is Charlie Brown Christmas.
Speaker 1: That's okay. I was just gonna get off on a
Speaker 1: Charlie Brown Christmas because I have never met anybody who
Speaker 1: dislikes that movie besides my wife, who hates that movie.
Speaker 1: She thinks it's legitimately.
Speaker 2: The world so weird. And I play that.
Speaker 1: Song a lot. Says it gets on her nerves like
Speaker 1: I've do I loved Alexa to Whenever she tells it
Speaker 1: to turn on the living room lights, it starts playing
Speaker 1: that Christmas Time is Here song in Charlie Brown's movie,
Speaker 1: and so she hates it with a passion. It's just
Speaker 1: like it's only twenty minute, like that movie is so
Speaker 1: good with the little tree and and and how they
Speaker 1: call Charlie Brown really stupid and no one respects him.
Speaker 1: It's it's hilarious. It's actually low key, pretty savage.
Speaker 2: It is. I'm also I'm a sucker. I love Snoopy
Speaker 2: in general. I think Snoopy is awesome.
Speaker 1: Wait, what's the best of the Peanuts holiday movies. I
Speaker 1: think it's the Easter One.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've seen the Easter One. Yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe escape me.
Speaker 1: The Easter One is similar a little bit to the
Speaker 1: Great Pumpkin One in the sense that they're convinced that
Speaker 1: this imaginary character is coming, and but in the obviously
Speaker 1: in the Pumpkin one, it never does because Linus is
Speaker 1: a dumb ass. But in the Easter one it is.
Speaker 1: It's the Easter Beagle, and Snoopy winds up being the
Speaker 1: Easter Beagle. I love the Charlie Brown movies, but I
Speaker 1: cannot stand Linus. He is worthless.
Speaker 3: I love Linus, he might be my favorite. Christmas is
Speaker 3: the best.
Speaker 1: Landon and I are a ziggy like the Christmas I
Speaker 1: don't know. The Thanksgiving one is really really good too,
Speaker 1: like just just a really pure Yeah.
Speaker 3: New Years is fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the New Year's one is really good. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a really good classic cartoon. That again, I I don't
Speaker 1: know how you can have a problem with except for
Speaker 1: who I'm married to. I'm at Ryan Underscore Orlanders basketball.
Speaker 1: Question here, how many of the last ten National Player
Speaker 1: of the Year winners in college basketball can you name
Speaker 1: without messing up? Bette, Frank Zacht He counts as too.
Speaker 2: You've got three, Mitch Lightfoot, Zach Clements, Cliff Alexander.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I should. I should be able to get more
Speaker 3: than than this. This is pretty bad, truly. I don't
Speaker 3: I know someone you name them, but I have not
Speaker 3: a clue to be quite honest with you.
Speaker 1: You got a guy who wanted Allen field House in
Speaker 1: a very high profile game. All buddy, healed, No, he
Speaker 1: didn't win it that and he actually lost somebody else
Speaker 1: you have. Let's see that was way longer. That's we
Speaker 1: can keep going back. I can do these from memory. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's just go back together here, Zacharya, he's won the
Speaker 1: last twenty two somebody won at Allen field House. He
Speaker 1: played for Kentucky and he started at a big twelve
Speaker 1: school Oscar Correct, twenty one guy played for Iowa. Oh yeah, guy, Nope,
Speaker 1: I just kidding it. Yes, it is a.
Speaker 2: Very lood guy. That's a bad joke.
Speaker 1: I already forgot you're talking about this is the land
Speaker 1: and he narrowly beat out Marcus Garrett.
Speaker 3: Right, remember this guy? I I Luca Garza.
Speaker 1: Correct. There you go number twenty twenty mid major team
Speaker 1: almost beat Kansas in maui Obi toppin. Yes. At twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: fat uh.
Speaker 3: Zion.
Speaker 1: Hey you go twenty eighteen on the Villanova team that
Speaker 1: blitz Craig Kansas in.
Speaker 2: The final four.
Speaker 3: Jalen Bronson.
Speaker 1: Yes, And then you go Mason and you go sixteen
Speaker 1: who narrowly beat Buddy Healed, and that was the wrong choice,
Speaker 1: by the way, at least if you go by the Naismith,
Speaker 1: that's correct. Who narrowly beat Buddy Healed. He had a
Speaker 1: triple double against Kansas in the Champions Classic. Favorite basketball
Speaker 1: team of all time?
Speaker 2: Oh it is it was it Denzil Valentine.
Speaker 1: Very good, keep going back. Fifteen guy who beat undefeated Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Team, Frank Kaminski.
Speaker 1: Yep, fourteen coaches kid of a guy that beat Kansas
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 3: Doug McDermott. Good.
Speaker 1: How much further back can you go? Twenty Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're back aways now. Thirteen guy who beat Kansas in
Speaker 1: this week sixteen Trey Burke. Trey Burke, very good. Twelve
Speaker 1: hy Davis is the one before. Yep, that's good. Twenty
Speaker 1: eleven scored a lot of points as a Mormon. Jim correct.
Speaker 1: And then you keep going back. Now I'll just give
Speaker 1: you the school because now it's getting harder. Twenty ten Ohio.
Speaker 2: State, Oh, Greg Older, you guys are both wrong.
Speaker 1: You guys are like those are right in between those.
Speaker 2: Two oldin uh no idea.
Speaker 1: An NBA great Evan Turner was your National Player of
Speaker 1: the Year winner consut two thousand and nine, Oklahoma Blake Griffin, yes, eighth,
Speaker 1: North Carolina hands bro yep Oh seven, Landon said Durant,
Speaker 1: that's right. Oh six current coach of the Lakers.
Speaker 2: Redick yep uh.
Speaker 1: And then you keep going back. Oh five, Illinois played
Speaker 1: for Bill self D Brown, Actually, yeah, they're both on there.
Speaker 1: D Brown and Andrew bo get tied. And then you
Speaker 1: keep going back. Then than now, we're going back when
Speaker 1: Landon was literally in diapers. But you did better than
Speaker 1: I thought. I thought that I didn't know Luca Garza's name.
Speaker 1: Would Labster mind? How people forget he was so good
Speaker 1: at rock Chuck aj Which is better from McDonald's the
Speaker 1: peppermint shake during Christmas or the Shamrock Shake during Saint
Speaker 1: Patrick's Day if their ice cream is working, ice cream
Speaker 1: machines working, ads man, I haven't had the peppermint shake either.
Speaker 1: The shamrock one's good.
Speaker 3: I am a big shamrock guy.
Speaker 1: Okay, I suspect I would say Shamrock if I had
Speaker 1: them both. I'm not a big peppermint guy, except for
Speaker 1: if it's gum.
Speaker 3: I do like peppermint, so there is a chance that
Speaker 3: I would love the peppermint.
Speaker 1: Rock. Speaking of food and fast food, rank your three
Speaker 1: favorite fast food fries, says at Ol R. Casey.
Speaker 3: McDonald's is one for sure. Yep.
Speaker 1: Good take earn him back your good graces.
Speaker 3: I really like Slims fries. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: Strips has really good fries. They're a local place here, though,
Speaker 1: so I think we have to go chain. Somewhere in
Speaker 1: the bottom hundred is culvers. I am so over crinkle
Speaker 1: cut fries.
Speaker 3: They're They're fine. I like them, but they're not like
Speaker 3: great by any stretch.
Speaker 1: Sonic has good do like a I do you like
Speaker 1: a Chick fil a waffle fry?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I knew you were gonna let me. Yes, you like
Speaker 1: the butts? You like the butts of the potatoes that suck?
Speaker 3: I don't. Actually those are what man correct. Nobody likes those.
Speaker 1: Wendy's has pretty good fries. I like your Slims call though,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Cam, what say you?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna set it out because I only I haven't
Speaker 2: had fries and forever, but I will say in and
Speaker 2: out fries are terrible.
Speaker 3: Cam's answer is hand of animal style sucked.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what I've heard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just quite flat.
Speaker 1: Cam's answer is any restaurant that uses peanut oil to
Speaker 1: make their fries, So he would probably say Chick fil
Speaker 1: A very high on the list.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just I'd drop a bomb on them
Speaker 2: if I could actually.
Speaker 1: And then you would literally just drop dead because you
Speaker 1: could not eat there. At Bentley Hunt fifteen says what's
Speaker 1: your favorite Christmas song? Where are You Christmas? We didn't
Speaker 1: say the Grench in our favorite Christmas movies, but that's
Speaker 1: narrowly missing the cut. That theme song is my favorite
Speaker 1: Christmas song. That and Bruce Springsteen rocking out on the
Speaker 1: saxophone to Santa Claus is coming to town.
Speaker 3: Uh, have yourself a merry little Christmas.
Speaker 1: That's very lank.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just gonna say Charlie Brown Christmas music.
Speaker 1: Oh that's I'll play. Yeah. Well, if you like that,
Speaker 1: they come stay at my house and tell Alexa to
Speaker 1: turn on the lights. That's all you'll hear in our house.
Speaker 1: At show me, Hawk says, fun fact, this is a
Speaker 1: ten year anniversary of my Kansas fandom, adds he became
Speaker 1: a fan during the twenty fifteen tournament, which, as we
Speaker 1: alluded to earlier, was a very exciting game against State
Speaker 1: that that's how you became a fan, by watching Evan
Speaker 1: Wessel drown Kansas slowly but surely. And he asks, is
Speaker 1: this would be a Kansas fan in twenty twelve? Was
Speaker 1: like Missouri beating Kansas and holding the win over Kansas's
Speaker 1: heads for the rest of the season. The answer is yes,
Speaker 1: it was Kansas in a thrilling game with Marcus Denman
Speaker 1: as the catalyst back then. But Kansas beat them three
Speaker 1: weeks later, So yeah, so it really faded fast. Now
Speaker 1: Kansas is gonna have to sit with this one for
Speaker 1: a while, and Kansas could do a lot of things
Speaker 1: this year, And Missouri fanser assumed me, like, but we
Speaker 1: beat you on that day where you had twenty five
Speaker 1: turnovers in Colombia and they did landa. Do you remember
Speaker 1: that game?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's I barely do.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: They both should have won at the other team's venue
Speaker 1: that year. That's kind of what I remember there. Another
Speaker 1: one from at Show Me Hawk says, if Kevin mccullor
Speaker 1: doesn't get hurt on last year's team, do they have
Speaker 1: a better finish? People forget that team of seventeen and
Speaker 1: three on the day mccullor hurt his knee against Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: they would have been much better, yes, Like I agree,
Speaker 1: they would have been above like well above five hundred though,
Speaker 1: which they were like barely better than five hundred. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that they go like fifteen and five instead
Speaker 1: of eleven and ten or whenever it was in that stretch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds about right.
Speaker 1: Big, big, big difference there at Neo zeke Berner. Why
Speaker 1: do self never play kJ at the five anymore? Campus
Speaker 1: was the number one team and won the Big twelve
Speaker 1: before self had heart problems with him at the five
Speaker 1: and twenty twenty three. But now even when Hunter Dickinson
Speaker 1: goes to the bench, he'll do anything but play kJ
Speaker 1: at the five. Great question. I don't get it. I
Speaker 1: really don't get it. That would be my call whenever
Speaker 1: Hunter goes to the bench, especially over playing Zach Clements,
Speaker 1: Like when is that gonna matter?
Speaker 3: Not this year? Not ever? I agree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, God gave kJ Adams the knees that Kevin McCuller deserved.
Speaker 2: My thoughts are not endorsed by all co hosts on
Speaker 2: Inside the Paint.
Speaker 1: All audible out of that one, real quick, I won't
Speaker 1: even say if you have questions, use the Twitter hashtag
Speaker 1: ask cards to be because look what you made camp.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one more at Rydernes Landrath the story we
Speaker 1: were supposed to tell a while ago. Landon, tell us
Speaker 1: the story of when Jalen Wilson made you strip?
Speaker 3: What? Yeah? Yeah, that's the way I would put that
Speaker 3: for sure. What year was that? That was? That was
Speaker 3: twenty that.
Speaker 1: Year besides your favorite COVID team, sir.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was. It was in Austin a game that
Speaker 3: Kansas really did not play that well in. Late in
Speaker 3: the game, Jalen Wilson has a chance to hit what
Speaker 3: probably is the winning layup. We do have one more
Speaker 3: after this, by the way, Ryan, if you can't.
Speaker 1: Tell in the notes, I see, I see.
Speaker 3: Jalen Wilson has the chance for yeah, what would probably
Speaker 3: a game winning layup if memory serves the seas part.
Speaker 3: He breaks through the defense no one's there, open layup,
Speaker 3: only to fumble the ball directly out of bounds and
Speaker 3: give it back to Texas in a game that can
Speaker 3: ultimately lost. And out of rage, in a moment of
Speaker 3: sheer anger and blind panic, I took my shirt off,
Speaker 3: threw it on the ground.
Speaker 1: I wish I had a video of that so bad,
Speaker 1: like man, because yeah, that that and Kansas led that
Speaker 1: game by like fourteen points at halftime and blew it
Speaker 1: because Bryce Thompson and o Chaya Bojie could not make
Speaker 1: anything in the second half. And yeah, then as you said,
Speaker 1: they were in position to still win it and overtime
Speaker 1: and Jalen Wilson had a layup that you'd see in
Speaker 1: a layup line and he didn't get a shot off.
Speaker 1: He fumbled it right at a bounce. Cam wants to
Speaker 1: know what is the most traumatizing thing that you've seen.
Speaker 3: As a child.
Speaker 1: Oh, man, I've been thinking about this for an hour.
Speaker 1: I I haven't seen a lot of traumatic things, Like
Speaker 1: I've been pretty lucky in that since I watched I
Speaker 1: watched Sean McNeil make six threes and one half at
Speaker 1: Allen Field House once. It made me say the F word.
Speaker 1: But that's about as traumatic as I think I've really
Speaker 1: had it.
Speaker 3: I would say, I don't feel like I have anything
Speaker 3: that's too crazy. I mean, I went I went to
Speaker 3: when I was way too young accounts.
Speaker 1: I went to game at Arrowhead once where Kylo Kyle
Speaker 1: Orton was trying to lead the Chiefs of the playoffs
Speaker 1: and it didn't go well. That was pretty traumatizing.
Speaker 2: Huh, I thought, I think better better answers. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: In an ode to Jim Beheim and also O. J. Simpson,
Speaker 2: I saw a kid that I was walking home from
Speaker 2: school with once get just plowed by a Ford pickup truck,
Speaker 2: and uh, yeah he got. He lived, so it's okay,
Speaker 2: but he was never quite the same, and I believe
Speaker 2: he committed some fellon. He's allegedly later and he's been
Speaker 2: in some trouble. But yeah, I always there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't seen anything traumatizing like that. I was crazy.
Speaker 2: He's trying to think that's horrible. Yeah, I know that's gross.
Speaker 2: I was at it.
Speaker 3: I was in line.
Speaker 2: I know he's still alive.
Speaker 1: I was in line at the bank and the drive
Speaker 1: through once. This is during COVID whenever he's losing their minds.
Speaker 1: And I saw two people get into a shouting match
Speaker 1: about who got to a one lane first, and neither
Speaker 1: one of them wanted to let the other end. So
Speaker 1: one guy got out of his car and stood in
Speaker 1: front a person's car, and that person proceeded to keep
Speaker 1: driving like they took their foot on the gas pedal
Speaker 1: and the guy is like sitting on the hood of
Speaker 1: the car because they're not you know at this point
Speaker 1: that extra potentially getting run over by a crazy lady
Speaker 1: in her car. And I just remember, like my wife
Speaker 1: was filming it and I was worried that they were
Speaker 1: going to see her film it and come over and
Speaker 1: shoot us. I was like, man, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be anywhere near this, So I guess I'll say you
Speaker 1: that I don't know. Traumatic I don't know. Maybe if
Speaker 1: I saw land and rip his shirt off because he
Speaker 1: was mad at Jalen Wilson, that'd be on my list.
Speaker 3: So come over and we'll watch nets games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's true. If you ever have any asscarcbs, Well,
Speaker 1: that was a duzy use a Twitter hashtag ask garcb
Speaker 1: use twitter hashtag cam watch somebody get hit by a
Speaker 1: car and felonies later in life. He allegedly Brown at
Speaker 1: number eight Kansas. What a boring, boring, awful matchup. This is,
Speaker 1: like I love to say, though, why would you schedule
Speaker 1: this game thing at a lot of people? Why would
Speaker 1: you schedule Brown? I don't care if they project to
Speaker 1: win anything. This is this this game sucks. They can
Speaker 1: win this game one hundred to zero, and I would
Speaker 1: still say it sucks because it is three days before
Speaker 1: Christmas on an NFL Sunday at two o'clock in the afternoon,
Speaker 1: and ESPN has no content to air during NFL Sundays,
Speaker 1: So they're like, I guess this is our main channels game.
Speaker 1: It'll be a great one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I frankly like, probably won't watch this live.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be saying sad, sad, Yeah, not excited.
Speaker 3: Well, the Brown Bears, they're seven and three overall, they
Speaker 3: have won six in a row. Their best win is
Speaker 3: Vermont or Rhode Island. Pick whatever uninteresting stat you want,
Speaker 3: the sir, oh, I see, well, I doubt they have
Speaker 3: very interesting stats either, but interesting state interesting stat it applies.
Speaker 2: Can you name one player from Brown?
Speaker 1: I will after you read this paragra Before that, I kid,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let I'm gonna let you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you. I'm gonna let you read the
Speaker 2: paragraph because I'm doing something really important for our notes.
Speaker 3: Okay, I can do that. Brown's best player is keen
Speaker 3: O Lily Junior, whoever is twenty points and shoots forty
Speaker 3: four percent from the floor. He is their point guard
Speaker 3: and also leads them with forrestists a game. He's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Lindelle Erld Malcolm Risbye Jefferson. That is the most Ivy
Speaker 3: League name I've ever heard. Yeap, Malcolm Risbye Jefferson would
Speaker 3: be a character in a Wes Anderson movie. And White
Speaker 3: Guy of the Game candidate Alexander Lesbert are the other
Speaker 3: guards of note.
Speaker 1: As is typical with Ivy League teams, Brown doesn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of size. Their five man is six seven
Speaker 1: land and Lewis. You won't get him confused with Land
Speaker 1: and Fields. He's much taller. He has averaged he averages
Speaker 1: fifteen and you don't go to Brown. But other than that,
Speaker 1: you know pretty close. Oh no, I don't know what
Speaker 1: Camp is doing. But I see in the Bronco chase.
Speaker 1: I don't know what what what's the What's what am
Speaker 1: I waiting for?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 2: It's just a reference to my buddy that got plowed
Speaker 2: by a Ford pickup truck.
Speaker 5: My, oh no, we can't do this on my Hey,
Speaker 5: you know what ouch.
Speaker 2: And can me to get Jim Beheim a white Ford
Speaker 2: Bronco for Christmas?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, oh no, oh no, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm supposed to keep going or not. I just will.
Speaker 3: I'm just numb to it.
Speaker 1: This this Landon Lewis dude averages fifteen and seven against
Speaker 1: the future law and CEOs and Brown's league. Then a
Speaker 1: rough year for CEOs. Hopefully they'll fare better. Aaron Cooley
Speaker 1: is six ' five and plays the four. He averages
Speaker 1: thirteen and eight. Brown must play a bunch of small
Speaker 1: teams and not very many. Hunter Dickinson's that they're six
Speaker 1: to five guy averages eight rebounds a game.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Brown's Oh Jay Brown's metrics just look like
Speaker 2: every good good by IVY League team, a standards team.
Speaker 2: I can't read now the Kansas has ever played. They're slow,
Speaker 2: they can't shoot free throws, and they shoot a good
Speaker 2: amount of threes that actually block a lot of shots.
Speaker 2: But again, they haven't played many people, and I believe
Speaker 2: that did Ryan? Did you just read this?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I didn't. You're doing great. I'm torching our entire show
Speaker 2: right now. Sweet, They're they're good at not fouling. We
Speaker 2: also have to hope that everybody doesn't foul out, because
Speaker 2: by role, we would then turn to a spelling be
Speaker 2: to determine a winner, and I don't need aj Store
Speaker 2: going up against Alexander Lesbert with a W on the line. Also,
Speaker 2: we're not gonna call on Doug McDaniel to help us out.
Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah boy that If you get that, you
Speaker 1: know exactly how stupid I am. But it won't matter
Speaker 1: because we'll all be laughing maniacally as Alexander Lesberg makes
Speaker 1: three after three at the fog in front of sixty
Speaker 1: five hundred people, because all the students have gone home
Speaker 1: and my Twitter mentions will be.
Speaker 4: Well, the students when I was there, would have never
Speaker 4: missed this game. That's why we're not playing Better Love
Speaker 4: whenever the students go home and I get lots of
Speaker 4: those mentions.
Speaker 1: Kansas has played Brown twice. They're two to zero. The
Speaker 1: aggregate total of those games is two hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: two to ninety four. Both games played in the Roy
Speaker 1: Williams era and this one's in the bell self are,
Speaker 1: which means buckle up for sixty six to fifty eight.
Speaker 3: I think this will be a win, I believe it
Speaker 3: or not for Kansas. I think they're gonna beat Brown.
Speaker 3: I do think Hunter Dickinson will go off again. So
Speaker 3: look for like twenty and fifteen from him in a
Speaker 3: game that Kansas wins. I will say seventy one fifty
Speaker 3: fifty five, and you won't remember anything about it.
Speaker 1: By the time we come back on this podcast and recap,
Speaker 1: it will be like, oh, Hunter had sixteen and twelve.
Speaker 1: I don't remember any of them. I remember him doing
Speaker 1: the two short dude against the future investment banker, but
Speaker 1: I don't remember anything else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, pretty much. I think Kansas wins. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be terrible, sixty eight to fifty one. Nobody
Speaker 2: cares about it, and then we forget about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. If I could remove one game from the schedule
Speaker 1: every year, it's the IVY League game. They insist on
Speaker 1: doing this. They played Yale last year, it was so forgettable.
Speaker 1: They played Harvard the year before that. It was so forgettable.
Speaker 1: You guys already forgot those games existed, didn't you. Did
Speaker 1: you know that Kevin mccolor scored thirty six points against
Speaker 1: Yale last year? Nope, you don't because you forgot it.
Speaker 1: Half wow, because yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3: Only did forget that until right now?
Speaker 1: Because they always play an IVY League team right before Christmas,
Speaker 1: and it's never any fun and this one will be
Speaker 1: the same. Kansas, Yeah sixty, God they should get in
Speaker 1: the seventies. Seventy two to fifty seven or something. Just
Speaker 1: bore me to tears. But hey, you know, if you
Speaker 1: got Alan Fieldhouse tickets, God love you for choosing this
Speaker 1: over an NFL Sunday. I guess Chiefs plays Saturday. That'll
Speaker 1: help other games. Not a ton of games to choose
Speaker 1: from this weekend, but we did manage to scrounge up
Speaker 1: four more number nineteen Cincinnati at number twenty two Dayton.
Speaker 1: I will put a little bit of faith in the
Speaker 1: Big twelve. Give me the bear Cats, though I hate it.
Speaker 3: Flyers.
Speaker 2: I'll take the Flyers.
Speaker 1: Actually, Number sixteen Perdue versus number two Auburn and Birmingham.
Speaker 1: Do we have any faith whatsoever that the boiler Makers
Speaker 1: play the Tigers stuff?
Speaker 3: No, maybe to win Auburn, Yeah, Auburn, you're both right.
Speaker 1: I think I do think Auburn eventually will slip up
Speaker 1: against somebody that were like Okay. Also, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the ESPN score that said Arizona beat Samford by forty
Speaker 1: Do you guys remember when Kansas played and definitely did
Speaker 1: not win by forty.
Speaker 2: They won by foul.
Speaker 3: Rooting for Sanford. By the end, they.
Speaker 1: Only won that game because the refs decided to call
Speaker 1: the worst blocking foul in the history and that entire tournament.
Speaker 1: That was the worst call the whole tournament.
Speaker 2: I honestly wish they just lost that game.
Speaker 3: That's yeah.
Speaker 1: Landon has said that before. I don't because that would hurt. Well,
Speaker 1: then I could still laugh again, Zaga. I guess Number
Speaker 1: eighteen UCLA versus North Carolina. There are two games in
Speaker 1: the CBS Sports Classic in New York City. Here's my
Speaker 1: You know what, North Carolina can't lose them all. I
Speaker 1: say they win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I unfortunately agree.
Speaker 1: And in Ohio State not falling for that again. They
Speaker 1: get pants by number four Kentucky in the night cap,
Speaker 1: better than.
Speaker 3: The Auburn game. But I think Kentucky does win.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it's better than the Auburn game.
Speaker 2: Kentucky by a lot.
Speaker 1: All right, So what do you guys want to do
Speaker 1: with the show? Are we gonna go in a couple
Speaker 1: of days before Christmas? Are you taking a break and
Speaker 1: not going till after? They don't play again? Until New
Speaker 1: Year's Eve after this Tuesday at two pm game. Yay,
Speaker 1: I'm good with before. I don't really care, all right,
Speaker 1: look at that.
Speaker 3: Whatever you guys decide, I can make something.
Speaker 1: Work cool, then we'll probably be back sooner than you think.
Speaker 1: On this Christmas edition of the Inside the Bat podcast,
Speaker 1: I am Ryan Landreth and I like a Christmas story.
Speaker 3: I am Landing Fields and it is fine.
Speaker 2: I guess I'm Cam Lipole. And if you're gonna drive
Speaker 2: a forward pickup truck driver responsibly.
Speaker 1: Somebody say goodbye to that kid that cam watch get
Speaker 1: hit by a bus.
Speaker 3: By that kid.
Speaker 2: That's bye, Bud. Don't make crimes