Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome. I jumped the gun. I usually wait
till this point. Sorry, I'm all discombobulated today. It's been
a day.
Speaker 3: This should out the GM of the Jets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened there? Guessing a rod He's gone right,
I got fired? He got fired? Yeah, I don't know. No,
it's just one of the well again, that would be
a thing like everybody praised you forgetting Aaron Rodgers and
then he takes it out, taking you down like you're
one of the twins hours. It's just terrible, bad analogy.
I apologize, I'll allow it, but I'm just saying, like,
that's how I feel today, Like I didn't know ship
was going bad, but it was going bad, and it
was out of my control and there was not a
lot I could do about it.
Speaker 3: It's just I love how they had to go to
the bullpen for it too. What do you mean they
had to go to the bullpen? We need to we
needed Lefty from an East, the funny East.
Speaker 2: I can't I should say what that is. Yeah, they
couldn't get me, so they called his other father. They call,
they called, and he wound up. Happened Jameson.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good to know they already know that they
if they can't get you the first Placesta should probably
call Osma Conners and if you're not there, then Uncle
Davie will come take care of it. Wasn't It wasn't
that I wasn't there. I was doing that, but they
probably assumed you were.
Speaker 2: No, they didn't. I was. That's terrible that you would
even say that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because I'm way off that one.
Speaker 2: Just lots of things today. It's it's I feel bad
because sometimes I think that what I think is over
reaction and I don't really react to things. And it
was even like last night, we talked about that weird
situation in the studio on Thursday, and I'm listening to
these guys and I'm like, well, you locked the door.
Did you tell your kid to lock the door? And
I go, No, I didn't do any of that because
I just didn't think it was that big a deal.
I don't know there's something in me that and I
feel like I've been that way my whole life. Some
things are serious and some things aren't. And when they're serious,
I'll know, and when they're not, just a big bunch
of bluster and everybody's just you know, blowing smoke out
their rest. But I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, I was telling you that we had that situation
in my neighborhood where they were looking for somebody. Yeah,
and there's cops o over my neighborhood and come back
and I'd beat and carry back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So when she came in, I'm down. I'm down at
my desk and I yelled up. I said, hey, close
the garage door. She's like why, I go, Well, if
there's somebody wander around the neighborhood, ire for not to
have them in our house.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be a hostage. Got shit to do.
She's like, what are you scared? Like, No, I just
don't want to be a hostage today.
Speaker 2: I got not to do right exactly. And you're not overreacting.
You're just saying shut the door and we'll go on
with our lives.
Speaker 3: We never, I mean, we never shot it during the
day except in the very in the spring when the
birds start.
Speaker 2: We didn't even lock our doors when I was growing up.
I mean, granted you lived in you lived in nineteen
sixty one.
Speaker 3: They're nineteen forty one, when there was nobody around sixty one.
Close enough. Well, I read it flustered.
Speaker 2: I read a story this morning with the headline two
women arrested after stolen car chase crashed in Rochester, and
I may get a few side glances for this, but
I started thinking a lot. I believe women, I've said
this on the podcast, and I do believe it, are
more emotionally intelligent. I think they are better at reading situations,
at reading rooms. I think that women just are better
at all those things than men.
Speaker 3: But clearly my majority there the stereotyper so they couldn't win.
Well were the Asian women by the.
Speaker 2: Chance, And because of this, because of that, right, thinking
of that, that they're smarter in these emotionally intelligent areas
stealing cars, I would think most women would find a
way to quote unquote borrow a car from somebody and
maybe not return, you know what I'm saying, like you know,
go hey, you know, or talk their way into the
car so this was this was a strange thing. So
I started to think about women being you know, strong,
they're talented. Martha Stewart, she's a corporate mogul. People love her.
I mean I watched that documentary on her on Netflix.
It's really interesting and it just shows who she is
and even today, I mean, she's in her early eighties
and she's still giving it her all and I think
in an very impressive person. And last Friday, people were
waiting for the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight, and what
you saw that was a really great fight was the
two women, Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano. As Katie was.
I mean, Katie's a badass. Granted she head buttered, I
get it, I understand, but you only lose a point
for headbutting. I think if they want to outlaw headbutting,
it should be three points because also over the eye,
the blood getting in the eye is well, you can't
see it. Didn't take any points from her. I thought
they took one point.
Speaker 3: I don't think they took any points on any of
the head buds.
Speaker 2: They should deduct up. I don't know, I just know
headbutting is usually a point deduction. Whether or not that happened.
I actually don't know. He's in a WBA WBC ibo
like you know, weight and I think the other girl
came up and wait to fight her. But that was
a great fight. It went to full ten rounds. That's
gotta be the best for a woman knowing they get
to come up and wait. They just started going bond
bombs on the couch. But you know, and then I
started the w NBA used to be a joke like
no one was there, who.
Speaker 3: Except for the Caitlin.
Speaker 2: Well, here's what I think, Kevin. I think the I
think Katelyn shows you all the other great athletes are
there because I mean, they start getting superstars, Like you know,
when I say superstars, I mean stars coming out to
see their games. People with influence. You've got well Spike Lee.
But then I thought, I thought Tom Brady went to
a game and some others. I did think along the
way throughout the season. So I go, it's like they're
getting eyes on their games, right. I hear people asking this,
are we not ready for a female president? And I
would say to the answer to that is because I
heard that like a lot this week on news gas
We're not ready for a female. They did some interview
with Bill Clinton, and even Bill Clinton said, I don't
know that we're not ready. I think Bill Clinton came
short of because he's a Democrat, saying we just didn't
put up the right person, you know. I mean that
that's the only thing I can think of, look the
majority of.
Speaker 3: So you think that it's one of those things where
it's it's a job that a man has always had. Yeah,
and it's I just don't know that. I think people
might not be ready. I mean, yes, obviously there's around
the world there's prime ministers and people that run countries
that are women, but not the free world.
Speaker 2: I always think that you might be right. I'm thinking,
I'm not trying to make it. In a second, well,
they are trying to make people think. They are trying
to make it a sexist thing. And that's what I'm
saying here. So if we have all this, the w
n b A, the fights, everything's rising up, all these things,
why not crimes. I would not normally associate women with
violent crimes like stealing cars and things, which would be
a little bit more violent crime. Then then I don't know,
stealing something out of all the I mean sh having
a stake in in in your person walking out the
door not not the same.
Speaker 3: You know it will be the best because I guarantee
would be the very easiest crime to do to steal
a car would be to get Doug in the uber.
All you'd need is in habits and a six pack
in mibbits and you'd be able to take his car
over in a second.
Speaker 2: But the rest rate for women has increased forty one
percent since nineteen eighty. The proportion of women arrested for
violent crimes has more than doubled, reaching twenty one percent
in twenty twenty. In contrast, the arrest rate for men
was thirty five percent lower in twenty nineteen than it
was in nineteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's reversing because the guys are still trying to
get the hell away from women. Well, I go now
they're going into jail and trying to get the hell out.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure to want to hear the naga. I'm
not sure what all that means. But you're doing you're
doing better than men in the arrest rate, right, you're
getting more percentage wise, you're up, men are down. And
I know these percentages are based on different size pools
because I still think, like I went and looked for
another stat of all the arrest in twenty nineteen, and
that's when the last dat is from city. Two point
five percent of those arrests were men. So you can't
say that.
Speaker 3: But but it's also it's also a lot of things
two with women are are starting to do more and
more things. Yeah, you're on the past, and that sample
sizes is greater because you're at zero.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're at zero, all of a sudden you hit.
Now you're hit, but now, but look better. Fight Friday
night was the women absolutely entertaining w NBA games. They're
reffing in the NFL, they're reffing in the NBA, there
refing in Major League Baseball and the NHL. There are
assistant coaches in the NHL. And then I did not
know that I knew the assistant coach, and I knew
that there's a female GM, which to me makes perfect sense.
So why not?
Speaker 3: And I think there's one good la your brazen came
into baseball too, Yes, yeah there is, and not with
like one of the shittier teams when I think one
of the bigger name teams, not like the Yankees and
Red Sox.
Speaker 2: But I thought that it was the Upper Marlins, is
what I thought. But that might have been a while ago.
Who knows. Look the idea that there's I can't. I
don't get it. I actually do believe that women overall
are just i'll call it more emotionally intelligent, maybe overall intelligent.
But all that stuff to me is funny. So when
I see the crime rates, I go, I guess that
makes sense.
Speaker 3: Well that's why those those the crime rates were so
high at the point, because a lot of that that
white color crime all you know, aunt mars bazzling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not violent, but no, but they want to be
smart crime. Back in the day, Well, what do we
always say when we hear somebody in bazzling? We always go,
I'm a middle aged white woman. Always she's been picking
from the pilfering from the troth for a couple of
months or a couple of years. Who knows, You've me
find out there's fifty thousand dollars gone, twenty to five
thousand dollars gone. Who knows it is? Uh? But so
I was trying to look to see and I couldn't
find it any more. Modern day crimes right now today,
But it was eighteen nineteen year old girls and I'm
going a high speed chase involving the police. I'm not
I'm sorry, right, eight times out of ten, I'm not
picking a no. Ten out of ten, I'm not picking
a woman to be behind the wheel.
Speaker 3: And I think I think younger girls are trying to
starting to be a little bit more brash too, yeah,
and not taking ship and just being like, you know what,
fuck it, I'm going to do it too.
Speaker 2: I don't know, You're probably right. I don't know. It's
it's very strange world we're living in right now. Everything
just seems to be a little all over the place,
and I don't know what to think of it. But
I saw that way.
Speaker 3: It's an entertaining show. Yeah, just watch the news. Jo
entertained well.
Speaker 2: In a way, and it's always bad, right, It's like,
can we get something because there's a number of people
that are doing good stuff that don't get any recognition,
and it's all the people doing bad stuff that we
got to hear about all the all the worst shit.
And I always wonder, like, you know, could and then
the news tries they do their good news section or
the Yeah.
Speaker 3: But that's that's extra sports and it's their already I've
already started dishes exactly.
Speaker 2: And I go, what what do we We need to
focus a little bit more on that stuff. But you know,
take take these these car thefts and make them working
in a garage or something. Maybe they'll know some uh
how to hot wire a car. Maybe maybe you'll find
the cure to uh stopping the Kia boys or whatever.
What's going on? I don't know. I'm getting text again.
All right, So tonight we're gonna have a couple of
guys who are I would say, I don't want to
say AI experts, but they have a company and there's
a lot of I think trepidation maybe the word around AI.
You know things that you know, will it be possible
in the future to have a job, what's gonna happen
with certain things? Well, what industries are going to be gone?
What can we do? You know? All these different things?
Uh just kind of the is AI biased on what
it's being fed to gain its knowledge? Uh? There are
people who think that there's a lack of transparency. We'll
find out from Cody Brendan and Brendan Fraser Brendan Fraser
is a the actor. That's when I was, well, yeah,
he is, well this is spelled a little differently in
the Fraser. But these guys are going to come in
and we'll talk to my eyes stuff because it is interesting.
And I wound up talking to a virologist today. Hell's
a virologist. A virologist is somebody who studies viruses and
what they do to the human body and how to
counteract them. And this guy from the University of Rochester
was saying, and this is interesting, and credit Stephanie id
who has been on this show for a couple of
years now, and she has said every time where she
wants people to be tested for sexually transmitted diseases. And
I think that I either roll my eyes or give
a sigh. Come on. And this guy said today that
about ten to fifteen percent of the population has HIV
and doesn't know it. So I'm going, what, it's kind
of like COVID, where people were they didn't know they
had it, you know when it was really going like
some people did not exhibit symptoms, but they were, so
they were spreading it.
Speaker 3: So we found the real reason Dad lost the way
He's one of the fifteen percent, because clearly I don't.
Speaker 2: So this guy is he They have patented a test
that you that they hope to eventually get into drug
stores and things, where you prick your finger and test
your blood and it does the test and much like
the home COVID test, you'll find out if you have
AIDS or not or right not. Let me rephrase that
v HIV. I don't want to say AIDS because that's
not correct. I don't want to say that.
Speaker 3: But so now we've got we've got the genealogy. You
can figure out where you're from. Yep, you can take
a dump in a box.
Speaker 2: You can take a dump in a box and figure
out I've got coll and can you got it?
Speaker 3: Now you can prick your finger and see if you get.
Speaker 2: Never lean to go to the hospital again for a test. Yeah,
how wild would that be? Like I said, I go, wow,
I hope this actually happens. And he said, this should
make everybody reconsider condoms, both male and female, don't you know,
think about condoms? And he goes part of the spread
of this part of this that we're seeing. I think
he's I thought, he said, I'm going to say a
stat here and maybe I'm wrong. I have not double checked.
This is sixty percent of something? No, such a smartest
nice I think it was thirty five percent increase over
the number of years, which, when you look at it, okay,
not that that big. I mean I think yesterday, by
the way, I may have misspoken. I think when I
said that the uh Jake paulm like Tyson fight, I said,
Jake Pauling hit twenty eight percent. I think most boxers
on average hit thirty five connect with thirty five percent
of their punches. Overall, elite boxers will hit forty percent.
He was twenty eight, but I was trying to shit them.
Speaker 3: But hey, thirty five is almost half a sixty nine,
So yes, it is.
Speaker 2: That's very true. That's true. But I mean, you know,
he was pretty close in his percentage. But yeah, I
was surprised at the number of people. And he said
that a lot of it has to do with hookup apps, right,
You've got Tinder and things. People will hook up, have
a one night stand and never think about that person
again and maybe have an STD and either not realize
it or ignore the symptoms. I mean, look, we can
say all the time, hey, we've had, you know, how
could you not know? Right? There are times where we
look at somebody and go, how could you not know
that you have something like this? How? Right? We think
of all the symptoms. We've had people sit here on
the podcast at this table and tell us about things
that they've been living with that they thought were ABC
or D before they found out it was E, F
and G. Right. You know, like Laura for example, Right,
she thought that she was just tired working too much,
you know, stress maybe with the kids.
Speaker 3: And also when you go to the doctor, cancer and
tour is usually not the first thing. Especially you wouldn't
go to it's a pinch nerve, or it's this, or
it's that. And then when it continues, then they start
looking at other things and that's you know, it's usually
down the road where you're getting that, oh you got
a tumor?
Speaker 2: Yes, And I think a lot. I think many times
when you present as a healthy adult, right, it comes
in with no priors that all of a sudden. I mean,
Laura told us she was gaining weight. I couldn't tell,
but she said, you know, she knows her body. And
she started to play her boyfriend for eating cheesy fries
and garbage plates, and she would have some of that
when he was around. Right, she thought it was that
and it wasn't. It turned out that she had a
medical condition that thankfully has been dealt with and all.
But you know, how long did she go? Right? How
long did she go before? She didn't know? So that's
the only thing I would say is uh, the virologist
kind of taught me. Today's like, you may want to
pay attention to things. Wrap it up if you're if
you're going on the app, well, all those dumb sayings
that we used to do and we thought were funny,
no glove, no love, all the dumb well, yeah, what
was it? Uh, don't be dumber? Put a Robert. No,
it wasn't. There was something, but there was all these
different sayings that we used to say and we think
they were so cool. And there was like a list
of them, like Kevin's gonna find it on the internet
because some tool put it up there. But if you
are single or even in you know what, you know,
what I'm seeing more and more of is open relationships.
I'm reading more about. We had a woman on the
podcast who has an open marriage and she likes to
go on dates with somebody else because she doesn't have
to talk about her kids and they're kind of get
down to the nitty gritty of life with her husband.
What do you found them?
Speaker 3: Cover your stump before you hump, before you attacker, Wrap
your whacker.
Speaker 2: We should get a teach hope be a loaner.
Speaker 3: Cover your boner.
Speaker 2: We should get that's my favorite.
Speaker 3: If you're not going to second go home and whack it.
Speaker 2: I think that we should get his bilified T shirt
with all those on the back and see if people
will actually wear it. But it makes you realize that
we've become pretty lax, right And I would think there's
a cure for ags. There's not. They have ways of
managing it, but it never goes away. You have it forever.
So Magic Johnson who's gone on to have a long
life with HIV has had it managed. But boy, you
hope to be that lucky, right, you know you hope
to be that lucky. All Right, we'll take a moment
and we'll get ready for the AI guys Cody Brendan
and Brendan Fraser coming in right after this.
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Speaker 3: Is it, mister Roboti?
Speaker 2: If he nailed it? Yeah, I know my eighties. This
is eighties rock, eighties AI rock. Right, it's about the future,
all right, mister Roboto. Nobody got that Rogotto. I don't
know what it was.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I got, bust out.
Speaker 2: I think the B side of this was snowblind by
last One.
Speaker 3: Buddy's favorite Stick song is snow Blinds.
Speaker 2: It is absolutely that maybe Chap this is when we
would fear Japan and all the things that are going
on my AI. I have said many times, Uh, you
can't put that genie back in the bottle, So find
a way to embrace it. Things like chat GPT. If
you have the ideas, it can polish up your writing,
it can help you create something of a calendar. I
think it probably can do way more than I'm even
thinking about. There's many AI things. What we what we
should play with tonight is the AI songwriting software that
you give it prompts up to two hundred characters and
I'll write a song within thirty seconds.
Speaker 3: Or the ones that we can get some nice interviews
from like Tiger Woods.
Speaker 2: Or yeah, you get the voices and all that kind
of stuff, which is a little scary, but uh, Cody
Brendan and Brendan Fraser, the actor who was in many movies. No,
do you get that a lot because spelled differently the
last name.
Speaker 4: All the time, all the time.
Speaker 2: But you guys are AI. So let's start with here,
what what is your company? What are you guys doing
with AI? And then we'll ask all the scary questions
about it.
Speaker 5: That's great questions, lots of them. So we are Rock
AI obviously Rochester AI. We basically take AI at all
levels and we try to implement it. We're kind of
like glorified AI consultants, but we understand AI very well.
Speaker 6: So businesses that need.
Speaker 5: Specific needs, we're taking AI models and training them for
exactly what they need.
Speaker 2: So it's give me an example of what like when
you say that, like, what what kind of business are
we talking about? Let's say it's honestly software writing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of software writer.
Speaker 5: You can use tools to help you write software, but
more specifically, we're building tools to help automate you know,
data analytics or other factors thatusinesses need. You know, they
take their CRM and we design a product that's going
to implement with the API and essentially make their flow,
you know, one hundred percent more efficient.
Speaker 2: Okay, So, and how do people find you guys?
Speaker 5: Well, right now, we're kind of new, So we've been
we've been getting a lot of traction. We actually have
some events coming up that we'll get to eventually. But
we have a LinkedIn page, we have a page on
Facebook right now. It's been a lot of word of mouth.
You know, we know a lot of people. I know
a lot of people. So we've been talking with countless
companies in Rochester just kind of seeing what their needs are,
teaching them about AI, you know, how to bring them
to the next level, how to use it, how to
you know, use an enterprise model and not put secure
data right right right right shouldn't really be but you
know that's I'm more of the business guy. My business partner,
Brendan here, he's he's the I spot last he was
actually the first name detector of marketing and AI in
the country about two yars ago.
Speaker 2: Wait a second, how with with whom?
Speaker 4: Uh so? I work with a group perching organization.
Speaker 2: But get right in that micro front Uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I was fortunate enough to be the company
that kind of took me my word of like AI
is huge. We need to be the frontier of this,
like we need to implement it in all stages of
our business, make our employees more efficient, because if we don't,
the competition is gonna gonna do it first and then
beat us. And they took that as seriously as they
should have, and we were able to make.
Speaker 2: Our what what is your do you love AI? Yeah?
You do.
Speaker 4: The day it came out, my life changed it just
I got to use it, see what it was capable of.
At the time, I was the head of marketing for
a different company than what I'm with now. But marketing
and AI at the beginning especially, yeah, went hand in
hand so well because I could just say, hey, write
a blow post on this topic and it would just
do it instantaneously. And this is before everybody is doing that,
like obviously every kind of marketing department and do something
doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Now, so it's not as effective as it was then,
but when the day came out, groundbreaking. You could have
six months worth of stuff done in a weekend. Whereas
before you need an entire team drafting, writing and taking
all this time just to pull out, you know, six
months worth of blog posts. And that's just one example.
You can create entire social.
Speaker 2: Media campaigns right calendars, everything.
Speaker 4: Calendar's campaigns, literally you name it. It was amazing at it.
Speaker 2: So what do you say to people that are somewhat
hesitant or scared? And we hear about like jobs are
going to go away or this is gonna go away,
and I often think I don't know that jobs are
going to go away because I still think like the
ideas are there. I read something where Ben Affleck, who
I've always thought was a really bright guy. Don't forget
he was twenty five years old when he wrote you know,
Goodwill Hunting, or co wrote Goodwill Hunting and won the
Oscar for Best Screenplay. He was at the Delivering Alpha
twenty twenty four in I think it's their investors summit,
whatever it was, and he was saying that, you know,
when it comes to acting and things, it's not going
to be replaced by AI because it doesn't have the
emotional intelligence and it doesn't have the emotion to get
that it can write you an excellent imitative Elizabethan play,
but it can't be Shakespeare was kind of his point,
and I just thought it. I go, you take the
laborerst jobs, right, the things of editing and that sort
of stuff. AI can shorten that for people and shorten
the time. People keep saying, well, eventually we're going to
see the first AI movie, no actors know anybody. It's
going to be an entire AI story. AI think maybe maybe,
but I don't think it'll do as well as something
with real people. But it could help punch up a script.
You may. I mean, there are guys and.
Speaker 3: We kind of see that with Avatar, though.
Speaker 2: Uh in terms of what it was like AI. Yes,
I see what you're saying. But when I'm talking about
like an entire different movie, like let's say any movie
was like even Fight Club, all of a sudden you
have AI actors and things is you just can't really
replace that. But I go, boy, guys who are punch
up writers. We may lose those guys. You may lose them.
Speaker 5: That really helps them focus, you know, And that's where
we take our pride in what we do because our
whole goal behind you know, implementing AI and a business
as efficiency right. Yeah, so we know, based off of
many scales, like the Ruter scale, we're going to save
an individual employee anywhere from four to twelve hours of
productivity per week.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So you know what can you do with that time?
You can actually focus on what's important. You can focus
on what's next, So play video games, yeah, or video games.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You can't work the thirty two hour yeah.
Speaker 5: But yeah if they utilize half that time appropriately. Now
you're thinking, you know, bigger businesses that we talked to,
we're talking about four or five two one thousand hours
a week. You know, what is a business going to
do with that time? You know, they could, you know,
think outside the box. They can take themselves to the
next level. But they already have a team. Nobody needs
to get fired. You're just going to redirect you know,
people in the right direction, and you're gonna be able
to accomplish a lot more.
Speaker 2: Well, what about like the biased AI. People fear that
what AI is fed is what creates its knowledge. So
now we could have biased AI. Do you what do
you say to that kind of stuff?
Speaker 4: So, I mean, you could take AI and say this
bias all day long, But I mean, so is the internet, right,
they could google something, it's whoever has the best SEO
score is top. So whatever trend or whatever message they're
trying to push.
Speaker 2: How about things like lack of transparency would be another
one that they've heard with AI, And I don't know exactly.
Lack of transparencies come like a new buzzword to me,
and I know what it means and we all do
when I know, what people are saying is that you're
not being authentic. You're kind of giving it, you know,
holding one hand behind your back with something in it
that I'm not aware of. But uh, I guess it
kind of how companies using AI impacts them.
Speaker 4: So, I mean, it depends on how you use it really.
You know, you could have the YouTube channels that have
their AI scripts with AI editing and like the person
presses a button and then does that, but honestly, it's
low quality. It's it's not going to stand out from
the croub because, like you said earlier, yeah, it's a
cookie cutter, right, you're not going to get that creative
spark and people are gravitating more towards the human element
of things. Now, you take that editing and say, okay,
cool that this person that a one man YouTube show
wants to create a script, has an idea of what
he wants, but doesn't want to like spend hours and
hours brainstorming. He wants to start with something and then
build off of that mold it to what he wants.
Like that just takes a huge amount of like work
out of the early stages of that. So bias is
what you make of it, and you can use AI
as far as you want, but it's not going to
go too far as in one direction or the other.
I I've been using AI NonStop for that since the
day came out.
Speaker 2: And what do you what are you using all of them?
All of them? What do you have a favorite?
Speaker 4: So right now I will say the chat GPT is
the favorite to talk about. Everybody knows that name. Claude
is definitely superior to chat GPT in almost every single
way except for at the enterprise level. So if you're
not a big business paying big bucks for a higher
level of chat GPT, Claude will be by far better
for the average person.
Speaker 2: Claude Yeah c l A U d E.
Speaker 4: That's right, yep.
Speaker 2: What does Claude do the same things?
Speaker 4: It's it's almost the same exact thing as chat GPT,
but the way it's trained, uh, and the and the
writing style and the outputs that it gives are just
on average higher quality than chatchpt.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: It's also much better at coding in my experience. And
so a huge, huge, huge benefit of AI is coding.
For anybody has coding, it's a very time consuming task. Yeah,
even if you're great at it, this could code instantly
for you. And maybe it's not perfect, but somebody's already
good at coding.
Speaker 2: You can pick it up.
Speaker 6: Can oh I take it?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's as if you had a an intern do it
for you, all.
Speaker 2: Right, right, right right, and then we just check check
the work exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I literally built an app when one preview came out.
I don't have any coding experience, and I built a
working app. And it's really what it comes down to
is just how you prompt it, right. You have to
be good at prompt engineering. Yeah, So how you ask
your questions and how you set the guidelines and the
guard rails for what you're going to get out.
Speaker 2: So, so saying let's say we wanted to build an
app for this podcast, Yeah, what would we what would
be the prompts? What would you say?
Speaker 5: Well, first, obviously you have to if you don't many
have experience, you have to by asking questions like how
am I going to do that? It's like how am
I going to build an app? It's going to tell
you what programs to build it on? What like are
you gonna use Electron? Are you gonna use JavaScript? What
type of code are you going to actually use? So
you can kind of teach yourself a little bit in
the beginning, and then you can just dive right into it.
You know, I obviously I don't know anything about coding,
so I don't remember half of what.
Speaker 6: It told me, but we did it together.
Speaker 5: So I just basically set the guidelines on this is
the type of app I want to build, What is
the best platform I should put this on? At some
point I want this to be on an iOS system,
and at some point I want it to be on
an Android system. So it basically gave me all the
inputs that I need for This is your base work.
This is where you're going to build it. These are
dig you are going to use, and then you can start
actually building code and plugging and playing and then at
a certain point, like it's it's not perfect right, so
you might get something that's not right. But I literally
copied and pasted what wasn't right, put it back in
and said why isn't this right?
Speaker 6: And it shot, this is your mistake.
Speaker 2: Try this Wow, and it actually built you the app
a day and a half.
Speaker 6: Yeah it works.
Speaker 2: Yeah really Yeah, So on like a weekend, you could
build an app.
Speaker 8: Something that would take a team at least a week.
Speaker 2: Okay, me a week. But but but you Drink.
Speaker 5: Is just a base app with a you know, I
would I can't really get in this specifically app.
Speaker 2: Because it's but don't cost like ten grand if I
hired somebody.
Speaker 4: So for maybe an easier example than the one we're
working on ourselves. When chat ChiPT first came on, I
was interested to see if I could code an Android app,
and I decided to recreate Flatbybird. And a lot of
people have done this now I've seen you can find
videos on a YouTube of just creating flatby Bird with
AI and then saying I want to code flappy bird.
I want to make that app and put on the
App Store and it does it and then sometimes it'll
just bounce up and down and the screen won't go
to the side and whatever, and then you say, okay,
this isn't working, and then it fixes it, and then
you keep going back and forth until you have a
functional app. And that was right at the beginning, and
it's been a few years now and it's only gotten
exponentially better. So, yeah, the apps that people can make,
like I saw one that this guy made, but.
Speaker 2: That does sound scary? Does it not a little bit?
Speaker 4: In my opinion, it's fascinating and it also gives it
is fascinating that people like, there's this guy who was
finding it frustrating that he couldn't just like type in
I ate this and how many calories did I have
and all this, So he created an app with AI
like an actual website, but it was an application as well,
like a web app, and you could just type in
exactly what you ate that day, and then it pulled
all of the foods, yeah, restaurant, and then says, okay,
here's what like your ask me to calories for the day.
And he just did that in a weekend because he
felt like it couldn't find something that did that as
well as he wanted it to.
Speaker 2: You know, what Kevin. I always say that what the.
Speaker 3: Barrier to entry, It's gone, right, it's lower.
Speaker 4: I mean now it's the creative mind. And yeah, and
AI can support that creative mind, yes, if you're using
it right or it could be abused. And people can.
Speaker 2: Talk to me about a big concern, a big thing
that people talk about today, cybersecurity. Do we worry about cybersecurity?
With AI?
Speaker 5: In getting I mean, honestly, it takes everything to the
next level, right, So you know, I own another business,
which is one of the reasons that all this started.
Speaker 8: We went to a big conference in August called AI.
Speaker 2: Four also a bunch of nerds.
Speaker 5: Oh, exactly about five thousand nerds. Wow, exact, it was
actually five thousand of the top companies in the world.
Wonder there was some pretty awesome girls there.
Speaker 8: And they're smart. But cybersecurity.
Speaker 5: I specifically went for cybersecurity to see what type of
programs we could utilize. We do government contracting, so we
do a lot of data analytics and intel. So from
a cybersecurity standpoint, we were looking at ways to automate
cybersecurity and use AI to you know, kind of cut
the middleman out without getting really into it. And there
are multiple companies that are dedicated to specifically that that
already have contracts with the government that actually handle a
lot of our cybersecurity.
Speaker 6: So as you use it for.
Speaker 5: Cybersecurity and pen testing ways or you know, just standard
you know, operations, you can use it for a good
and bad. So at this point, you know the good
and the bad also grow.
Speaker 2: Well, we can be good and bad. There's always that.
I always joke if somebody would use their powers for
good instead of evil, right like the guy who came
up to the skimmer at the gas station, that was
an easy task to do. No, I think you got
a lot of work to get it that small to
go in the thing, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know if you talk about people
putting out nonsense like we love nonsense, what kind of
nonsense are people putting out?
Speaker 4: Well, you could just have a generate like a buzzword
heavy article, but make it seo like for a particular
keyword or key phrase, so that when people google itt,
this article shows up pretty high up Google's.
Speaker 2: That's we need to put on billified.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I mean, look at journalism these days, right,
like people, Now.
Speaker 2: Dare you I understand.
Speaker 4: I know you're saying there's a lot of there's a
lot of bad and there's some good, and it's it's
harder to find the good these days. In my opinion,
it's a lot. It's pretty easy to find an article
that you can almost tells written.
Speaker 2: By a So how does somebody use AI, Let's say
an individual who Another popular thing we hear about nowadays
is side hustle? Right, do we not? Right?
Speaker 4: That's the whole category by itself.
Speaker 2: It's a whole category by itself. But can AI help you?
There's uh, I'll get fed ads on Instagram for is
a cursive course of c O U R S I V.
Speaker 6: I've seen it?
Speaker 8: Have you seen this I do with AI on Facebook
so much? Yeah, as all the time.
Speaker 2: It's they give you like you got to master all
these different.
Speaker 8: Thirty different at different day and you're going to do.
Speaker 2: This yes, And I go, okay, obviously maybe maybe I'm
not putting the time in.
Speaker 5: Maybe And that's their take on it, and you know that,
and that's kind of you know, from a business aspect,
why what we really do and what we specialize in,
you know, chat, TBT, claude and using it that.
Speaker 6: That's one thing.
Speaker 5: But when you start to actually get into l MS
and things that you know, manage your calendars or magic
cell spreadsheets.
Speaker 3: Wait what he said calendar about four times? You should
start taking some interest in that too, there, pumpkin, I.
Speaker 2: Have my calendar. I was looking at my calendar.
Speaker 5: Do they have a great partner out of Armenia that
could help you out with your calendar? Out of it
a bit Armenia, the Project Management Artificial Intelligence.
Speaker 2: We're all around the world, your global global global what
is so what is the name of the company? Your company?
Speaker 6: Our company is rock AI.
Speaker 2: Rock AI already forgive me, I was drinking before this,
but the rock AI and what do you what are
you offering?
Speaker 5: So we're offering consultation services to businesses, you know, helping
them understand what they might need, what products are on
the market.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you could spend hours trying to test things
that aren't going to work for you. Find the experts
that actually know exactly.
Speaker 6: And if there's nothing off the shelf.
Speaker 5: That's where we get a little bit deeper into it
and we actually build a custom model for their needs.
So you know, we can actually train our own data.
You know, I'm working on when I own an HVAC company.
So right now I'm actually making a program trained off
of industry specific data to help technicians diagnose problems that
they have right right, So you know, if you have
data that's pertinent to your industry, you can train everything
off of it and make whatever type of app you'd
like or implement it behind an app that you are
to use to give it that much more power and
give you.
Speaker 6: That much more of a resource.
Speaker 5: So if you have a question, say I'm working on
this product, help it's doing this. It's giving an error code,
and you can use these resources that we trained, you know, PDFs, data,
raw data, and it'll instantly find it and instantly give
you an answer.
Speaker 2: And this would be chat, chipeach or claude. I could
put that into.
Speaker 5: No, this is actually something custom to you. So it's
a program that we build.
Speaker 2: We have you guys built.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we actually build out forgive me, this.
Speaker 3: Is your dad forty years but now he's getting it's
not gonna be good enough construction that's going to be
right right exactly.
Speaker 4: So another good point. Ye yeah, another aspect of uh
like actual like business owners like that we talked to
A huge thing that they say is I don't even
know where to begin. They're almost intimidated by it. And
we have partners like in every single sector of artificial intelligence,
so we're like, we can go into a business and say, hey, like, okay,
how do you run what is your day to day
in every department, marketing operation, in sales, you know, finance, whatever, Okay,
what their day to day goes like this? Okay, so
we can cut down their time by this. Maybe there's
some open positions that they may not necessarily need because
they can make their employees be able to do more
with less work. And this kind of circles back to
a question you asked earlier of is this going to
start like taking away jobs? I don't think it's going
to take away jobs. No, it's going to make it.
Speaker 2: Adapt or die. I mean, it's unfortunate, but we went
from the industrial era right to technology, so jobs this happened, and.
Speaker 4: Analytics jobs are going to start going away.
Speaker 2: You own an h v a C company, of course
you got to have somebody to get in there and
actiously diagnose what's happening.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well yeah, if AI ruins everything, then I'll be fine, right, exactly. No,
but there even and we have already talked with trade
businesses and you know, we can still help them. You know,
we can help them in the field, and we can
help them obviously in the office. So you know, AI
is just going to become something. You know, especially in
the next few years.
Speaker 6: You can have an AI department.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you could. They're gonna have an AI department. Wow. Wait,
that's something I've never heard said. Have you heard that set?
I've not heard that set? An AI department? What would
be an AI department?
Speaker 4: Go ahead, it's really just going to be like a
company wide efficiency center and always making sure you're at
the top because it's going to start getting really competitive.
And that's honestly why we do what we do is
because we want to bring Rochester back up because when
we came back from AI four, we realize there's a
lot of tools out there that we know about that
nobody here knows about, and we want to start bringing
the city up to that level.
Speaker 2: Are you originally from Rochester? Yeah? Okay, And did you
go to Fairport High School? Fairport High School? Yeah?
Speaker 4: God, terrible, I know, yeah.
Speaker 2: And then and then the Red Raiders and then after that, where.
Speaker 4: I've I've stayed here, yeah.
Speaker 2: The college here or no college yeah, MCC And then
uh and what did you do the same thing?
Speaker 5: I grew up in Geneva. I went to the sales
before unfortunately closed.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then yeah, I've just been hustling my entire life.
Never really needed college.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, right, you.
Speaker 5: Train yourself on, you read a book, right, Yeah, you
have a problem, you read a book, you take a course.
You know, smart accounting is an issue. You can take a
Cornell course whatever you need. Yeah, college is really unnecessary
unless you're going for a pH d. And you know,
being a doctor, you know to be to be quite honest,
So I just submersed myself and you know, I've loved
tech my entire life.
Speaker 6: So this type of stuff has just been so.
Speaker 5: Incredible to be able to work with hands on and
then obviously meeting Brendan and diving to this AI has
just been.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so cool. AI rock and you'll go in and
help people just be more efficient and use AI. So
you can have AI do invoices for you. You could
have them. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So actually one of my one of my friends, even
the government is using it.
Speaker 6: Like like police officers.
Speaker 5: They're actually utilizing their their camera system to write all
of their reports. Now, oh yeah, so if you have
a traffic stop transcrit it's one hundred percent transcripted and
the report has filled out, you'll just have to basically
make sure the eyes are got and the teaser crossed.
Speaker 2: It's funny because I will do videos right. And one
of the big things now for social media is some
people are at work, so they're not going to have
the volume on, but they want to read the captions.
So you have the AI captions done, but you got
to catch the AI. You got to go back through
and read them because they're probably I'm going to say,
over ninety percent correct, but there's some word or somebody
slurred something or.
Speaker 4: What I would recommend for you. And this is like
an easy, quick little fix. You can run the You
take the entire caption list and then run it through
like claud or something, and then say any words that's
the amount of place, replace it with one that they
most likely meant instead.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, all right, well, but this is all part
of one like editing system like a cap cut or
something like that. You know what I mean, it's already
built in, but that's a good Yeah, so they can
do all of that. Yeah, and that's again why clot
over chat ept.
Speaker 4: It's just it's a little smarter for the average user.
Speaker 2: It is, but the chat cheapt became sort of the Kleenex.
Speaker 4: Of it was honest and it's all about being first,
it is. So Yeah, there's a huge UH name brand
around chatch.
Speaker 6: But builders are obviously they're they're quite large.
Speaker 2: I know people who will not send a text without
first putting it in chat cheapat and talking it like
you know, they don't even type, they're just talking to
the wrong Hey, write me a friendly text message that
says blah blah blah blah blah and then boom and
it comes out and it actually comes out. I've tried
it myself. It comes out better than what you've said,
you know what I mean? Or friends exactly why? Because
it won't let me it's cleaned it up.
Speaker 6: You gotta be nice.
Speaker 2: But I'll be back.
Speaker 4: The business that I work with, the UH, we implemented
AI in all levels and one of them that has
had the best like feedback is it scripts. AI responses
based off of the thread that it's in, and you
can choose the tone, you can choose, the length, you
can choose whatever you want. So I remember there was
this one situation where there was a heated customer with
a different department, and the guy, who is not known
for being very well written, I guess we'll say, just
use an artificial intelligence response, and it had the most
perfect response you can you can imagine, and it kind
of calmed down the situation, whereas if he was on
his own, it wouldn't have had that same effect.
Speaker 2: But don't we see the what's what's what's the ad for?
Because everybody's has their own AI now right? I think
that I think Microsoft has one and everybody's are they
pilot or something? And then Apple has.
Speaker 8: One, so really it's out, but it's not like out completely.
Speaker 2: But have you seen the ads for the Apple one?
Speaker 9: Or the guy's like, hey, I think we need to
circle back on this thing. He's some jamoke at work
right his feet are up, And then then the boss
gets the text message or the email and he goes,
Joe wrote this, and he's like looking up because it
cleans it up, it polishes it.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you, like I do. I mean, I
I think with kids in school and things. We have
forgotten how to spell, We have forgotten how to punctuate things.
So when you get something that's perfectly punctuated grammatically correct,
you know absolutely something's up. But that's the way the
world's going. So do we punish that.
Speaker 8: Or do well, no, because that's.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's my point is I almost feel like smarter,
not harder. Yes, And I feel like in the education system,
I understand that you want, but if it's really about
ideas and taking those ideas and putting them in a
succinct form that everybody can understand or is a little
more polished, you know. Sometimes Uh, I don't want to
say Brendan's a geek, but oh no, no, But like
you may speak a certain way that doesn't connect with somebody,
but AI can make it better, and I'm sure you'd
be fine. I'm just using it as a joke.
Speaker 6: I'm as a translator.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I keep him wrong.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't. I certainly didn't mean anything
by that, But my point being that, you know, like sometimes.
Speaker 5: And honestly, you know that's going to unfortunately happen. You know,
people aren't going to spell whatever, but what they can
do is harness their brain in other ways. Yes, So
if you can take an offload, obviously you have to
have some common sense and street smart yes, but if
you can take an offload off of your brain, you know,
and just be able to think freely, the possibility is
around this, and you might see a lot of creativity
out of people that you normally wouldn't using products like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but can you reverse it too, because like sometimes
you work with some really stupid people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah for you, and you're.
Speaker 3: Trying to explain them the most base way you can
think of, and it's still fifty feet over their head.
Speaker 4: In my experience, those are people end up not using
it anyway because they don't understand it.
Speaker 3: But I just want to make it so they understand
what the hell I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, ask ask the AI. Then that's why I tell
people pretend like it's just Google and start talking to
it like it's a person. Right, then it'll give you
those answers and you can say, explain, like I'm five
years well.
Speaker 2: What are some of your favorite prompts to put into AI.
Let's say every day stuff. Let's say I I'll.
Speaker 4: Do I'll do one that so I'm kind of into fitness.
I was one hundred and seventy nine pounds and I was.
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, you're overweight. Well yeah, and what
you are at one hundred and seventy nine Yeah, Jesus dude.
Speaker 4: So I was like, okay, I like to give me
a meal plan. So I put my my height, my weight,
the foods that I like, the exercise that I like doing,
the amount of time that I had to dedicate to
this every week, and it created a meal plan, a
workout regimen, and just an.
Speaker 2: Over just get a fucking girlfriend, got.
Speaker 3: Done.
Speaker 2: It's just wow, that terrible? How mean is it? See?
How do we get rid of bullies? No? But like
that's amazing, right, and it transformed you.
Speaker 4: No, I'm down to one fifty seven and it's just
using artificial intelligence, Like I need a personal trader. I
didn't need anything. But like that's just a practical way
anybody can use this.
Speaker 2: And you know, but they have to actually do it.
Speaker 6: They have to just you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: No, they have to read it and actually do it.
Then they got to follow it. That's the hard.
Speaker 4: Partwhere but I wanted it. If they want it, they
can follow a personal trainer can't make the person.
Speaker 2: No, because how many times have we gone to an
attritionist or or said if I only had someone to
show me the way? Now? You do?
Speaker 4: You do?
Speaker 2: You do? Yeah?
Speaker 4: One of my favorite ways to like talk about AI
to somebody that's like, I haven't even touched it yet,
I don't know where to begin. Imagine how somebody that
is better than ninety percent of the population in every
single category working for you to answer your questions to
make you a professional in any of those fields twenty
four to seven and for a decent model that gives
you like a lot of like back and forth conversation
without the limits because right now, a big thing with
the you know, Claude and chatchepet is you can only
prompt it so many times before it locks you out
for a few hours because really the amount of traffic
that they've got. And you can learn anything you want
to learn, and you can do anything you want to do.
I'm not a doctor, but there was a story a
couple of years ago, actually shortly after I came out.
This woman had a son who had been sick since
the day he was born, seeing hundreds of doctors and
nobody knew what was wrong with him. She put his
symptoms into chatchipt and it spat out a diagnosis. She
went to a doctor saying, I think my son has this.
It was right, and a huge talking point in the
healthcare field has been like doctor's bedside manner. AI wins.
Speaker 2: They did a blind over in bedside manner, which is
troubling because we would think that AI doesn't have feelings.
You have feelings in emotion, told the empathet, right, Okay, yeah, interesting,
it's scary.
Speaker 4: It's a it's a tool, and I hate you guys.
There's nothing, there's nothing to be scared of until we
hit a g I. And that's a whole other converce.
Speaker 2: What's a g I.
Speaker 4: It's pretty much where AI can teach itself because right
now AI is only as smart as the information it's fed,
so the smartest human.
Speaker 2: But isn't it pulling from everywhere on the Internet? Like
for years I said this, who put it in there?
And who put it in that that I can find
any bit of information I want on how to get
someplace on who put that in there? Well?
Speaker 4: And it's Internet, and it's that there are actually a
lot of checks and balances for how the giant ll
ms are being made right now? Is it all perfect?
I can't say they're all perfect, but I mean to
kind of put it back at you. How are people
being trained in colleges? How are doctors being college encyclopedias
on books?
Speaker 2: And yes, yes, yes, but I'm saying like somebody had
to take all that information and put it in there
and did that. That's a ton of work.
Speaker 6: That's what we have to do.
Speaker 5: And we know these you know we I'm the smaller
scale by the way, Like you know, if we're doing
it for an individual company, that's not like what open
AI for chat GPT has to do when they're training chap.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so you're taking and you're helping it designed
for a specific company where they're doing it.
Speaker 5: A mask maybe some manuals and pdaffs and we're just.
Speaker 2: Right give training with that, Give me a topic and
we'll have a I write a song and then we'll
are you using souno? Yes? Is that okay?
Speaker 4: That's fine? I have it too on my phone.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you write songs for fun?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, once in a while. Yeah. Yeah. Why do you
have you ever tried to pass off a Souno song
as one you created and done. Oh me, no no,
but like a love song for a musician you did
Greek do it?
Speaker 4: Said he could tell the difference between the AI song
and a real song. So I found a really obscure
real song, and then I created a song on Suno
and then played him side by side. He got it wrong.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a little scary, because sometimes it does. You
can kind of tell, even in the voices and things.
But give me a topic and we'll have to write
a song.
Speaker 3: I just put in the chest sheep. Can you write
me a pickup line to pick up a girl at
a bar?
Speaker 2: And is it?
Speaker 3: It came back with are you this charming with everyone?
Or am I just getting the VIP treatment today?
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Speaker 7: Do smile this the glow herbeat, sing to them.
Speaker 10: No, are you this sharming with everyone you meet?
Speaker 2: Am I just feeling?
Speaker 10: Are you?
Speaker 2: I'm right now? This sounds like buddy, it's freaky because
likes series called he excuse and it's in the morning.
It's not a r B like this. Am I getting
just kidd The R tree? The VI P tree is long,
close magnetic. All right? Now they give you two versions?
What is this?
Speaker 11: So called food?
Speaker 12: No?
Speaker 2: Shoot, I have you met that?
Speaker 4: I apologize?
Speaker 2: Kevin, not gonna give you the other one? Here's no,
I think I like this one better.
Speaker 3: Already got that Country Twain A little bit jelly Roll, Country.
Speaker 10: Twain bits the low your smiles clue heart gets into
the riddle, you know, are you this charming with everyone
you meet? Or am I just feeling? Are you this
charming with everyone?
Speaker 12: You're fine?
Speaker 10: Or a model on going your mind?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I might like, yeah, the voice, Yeah,
so what if you put it back in? Does itate
something different for you? Or and it's.
Speaker 4: Make a different request, make it better?
Speaker 2: Yeact like, just go for a vibe. You know.
Speaker 4: You can have it combine some weird things. I've used
this that before.
Speaker 2: Like what, so what do you have it combined? You
did Egyptian Rock? Yeah, it was cool.
Speaker 4: It's like chick it weird things, man, Okay, and it
comes up with some really unique things I've never heard of.
So I don't even know how.
Speaker 3: Do a cross between The Stones and jelly Roll?
Speaker 2: All right, the Rolling Stones, I'm typing this in real time,
the Rolling Stones and Jelly Roll. I have this problem
where it's a British dog whistle. I always say jelly
roll is a dog whistle for stupid. But okay, let's
see here we go, it's working. We'll see, I'm see
it's It's amazing what this can do but this is
great because uh, you're not paying BMI or as cap.
You could have jingles for your business. You could have right, I.
Speaker 4: Mean last I checked, they if you have the subscription
for Suno, which is a lot cheaper.
Speaker 2: Than most of the Yeah, but they give you free
can you could you.
Speaker 4: Not use the free Yeah, you could use it for you.
Speaker 2: Even even their free version.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure about the free Okay.
Speaker 3: I bet you could even just put in play Sammy
Hagger I can't drive fifty five? Would it would that pull?
Speaker 4: Well, it doesn't like existing people's names. It'll it'll give
you pushback on that because it's not trying to copy
anybody in particular.
Speaker 2: They want to avoid that. But you can get so
if we said something like the rolling I just wrote
in rolling stones and jelly roll would.
Speaker 4: Have pushed back, push back on that house.
Speaker 2: Just spinning and spinning.
Speaker 4: If you uh, if you go to like chat GPT
and then say how would you describe a mix of
rolling stones and jelly roll in in a way in
like two hundred characters or less, so that you can
then paste that prompted so you get look at this
so you can.
Speaker 2: Get crossing your ais. Wow, you're making the perfect AI storm.
It is amazing, and I think that a lot of people.
It's almost like a cheat code for life in a way.
But what do we talk about a lot in this country.
We work so many hours, right, we're always pursuing the dream.
There's not enough time. I think we are the most
time shortest consciousness society there is on the planet. Because
you go to Europe and then they're taking naps and
they shut down at two o'clock in the afternoon, don't right,
the sidewalks roll up, and then they come back at
seven o'clock at night and go to three in the morning.
It's just a different thing. You could have an easier life,
or get more done, or be more productive, or be
there for your family and still being able to run
your business, run your stuff by doing that.
Speaker 6: That's mention.
Speaker 4: When you're having AI take care of the lower skill,
higher time consuming tab that are just a drag on
your nine to five or whatever kind of job you have,
it's less energizing. But that when when AI takes that
part over and you get to focus on the part
that motivates, either the creative aspect of the job or
the the more you know human element of the of
the position. Then you get more done. The productivity skyrockets
because you're focusing on the part of the job that
you love, not the part of the job that nobody likes.
Speaker 2: No, right, all the shit that you hate that you
put off, you procrastinate on, and then starts to drag
you down, like accounting, And that's exactly what I'm thinking.
Speaker 6: We have partners that specialize in that.
Speaker 5: You know, it'll link directly with your quick books, and
you can set guardrails for how you're reporting and you're
reconciling as and it'll literally day in and day I'll
give you up to date piano.
Speaker 2: Well, they give you things too, like I mean, we
see I see training videos that are done with AI
actors now that I couldn't tell the difference. But what
about things like answering your phones? Yeah, I mean there are.
Speaker 5: There are programs that are specifically doing that. It's specifically
in the marketing world too. They do cold calls. You
can't tell the difference. It breathes, it takes a breath.
You know, you literally could not tell the difference.
Speaker 4: It's one of the downsides of AI. And you know,
then then we get the more spam calls because more
people figure out how to respect with marketing cold call campaigns,
and it's like that's not a good thing. Nobody likes.
Speaker 2: What do we need to worry about with AI because
we were you know, like you, Kevin brought it up right.
You can have something sound like Morgan Freeman. You could
have something sound like you know, the president somebody like.
Speaker 4: So for the average person, first and foremost, AI is
not going to take your job. Someone using AI is
going to take your job. So if you're not using it,
start using it. And then yeah, things like voice impersonation.
I've actually heard somebody get a call that sound. It's
like completely I think Joe Biden. It was a call
and then it was like don't vote for me or
something like that.
Speaker 2: This, yeah, this is terrible. It was Jesus Christ, like
we need any one of this ship. Thank god.
Speaker 4: It was over imagine making an a like that.
Speaker 2: Come on, all right, So I the Rolling Stones jelly
roll did not work, Kevin, but I put in a
blues vibe using the same pickup line here it is
a blues vibe.
Speaker 10: So you this song me with everyone you meet. Oh
I'm not just scardy. They in this dim little room
was shadows down.
Speaker 2: Let's see if this one does. Now I'm waiting to
hear Christapleton. When I hear this, I.
Speaker 13: Really am this jar with everyone.
Speaker 7: I'm not just kidding the uppy treatment.
Speaker 2: Just a woman scumbag.
Speaker 10: As whole promised it a second chance, your flow that honey.
Speaker 1: In the night.
Speaker 11: Every I mean, you gotta say, like if somebody started
playing this in a dim lit room at a bar, No,
I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I could, or you know, could
you do? Could you do a whole night of originals
written by sonos and you just go out and play
them yourself?
Speaker 4: Someone somebody's already doing that. Oh yeah, you got people
in San Francisco. They're having this and then they go
out and like, okay, they just play the song. Ye
here to do it that way?
Speaker 2: Sure it is.
Speaker 3: It's almost like karaoke.
Speaker 4: Hey it's original, right, Yes, it is of songwriting. And
then they know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but songwriting. See see see here's the part that
that's different to me. And I always like because I
knew guys who did punch up writing, like any guys
who when the Oscars, right, when you write for the Oscars,
guys will just send out and the email in jokes
jay Leno. Jay Leno was great because anybody could fax
a joke and if you used your joke, you got
seventy five bucks like back in the day, right, So
there there were punch up writers and things. I go
for this kind of stuff. It would be great to
just punch it up, like, you know, can you make
this funnier? And maybe they can, maybe they can't. Are
there are there joke writing sites that you know about?
Speaker 4: Honestly, can be pretty funny. I haven't done it with Claude.
I'm not that funny.
Speaker 2: You know, I've seen your set and Claude, I need
to writers starting back and forth this I bet you could,
Like have you ever done that where like, let's be honest,
you know you got a little bit of a Clark
Kent vibe to you. I got it, you know, but
and and obviously but but a little nerdy. Have you
ever pitted chatchypt Versus Quaude on the same subject? Yeah?
I knew it all the time. Really, you have to.
Speaker 4: It's like it's like ab testing.
Speaker 2: To see which one's better. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And if you're not up to date, because I
mean even day to day if one model is underburden
for how many people are using it. So if you're
using it like noon on a weekday, when millions of
people are using the platform, it's capacity is actually throttle
a little bit. It becomes less intelligent, okay. Or if
a new update is going to come out in the
back end of developers of whatever they do, architects have
actually changed the model that day. Some days it is
just dumb, and then you have to flip back to the.
Speaker 2: Intelligence, right really like you've burned out, right, You're burned
out that day. That's interesting that AI can sort of
be burned out.
Speaker 4: It can, yeah, And and what the prompt output is
even if you do it correctly, if you do everything right,
one day might be different the next day. And you
have to know, like what you're talking about and know
that what you're reading isn't necessarily okay, that that was
really dumb.
Speaker 3: Like that instead of a circling, I just chose a
picture without back smoking piking a cup of coffee.
Speaker 6: New cluster somewhere on fire.
Speaker 2: It's hysterical, it's funny. That would be really great to
gone fishing the uh. Okay, So do you ever go
and like talk to colleges and things or no, because
I would think places like l T are developing this
so or do they have kids who are We've.
Speaker 4: Had conversations and and like there are places that want
us to kind of speak and say, hey, like give
us an overview. But colleges in schools in general don't
really know how to use AI right now, because it does,
to your point earlier, represent a huge issue in the
education system. Right right, kids can just do their homework.
I can take a picture of anyone's hope mark upload
the picture to chat GBT or claude and then say,
solve every single problem on this, or do the creative
writing prompt on whatever kind of homework. It as if
it's a piece of paper and it's something that a
human can write or type, it can do it. Which
so in my opinion, like schools need to embrace that,
and then it needs to be more practical do things
in the classroom and take home tests and homework need
to be made up or even going into like.
Speaker 2: An well, see this is what I'm saying. I'm thinking
of a couple things as you're talking. To give you
an example. It's the people you have a doctor, a
regular doctor who's seeing patients isn't in the field doing
the research, right, So you got to be in the
field of chatch EPT. The teachers, the people that are
at the institutions are teaching, but they're not in the
field seeing what's happening. And then the closest thing I
can think to that was when my sister got lime disease.
She had she was a child, so still going to
a pediatrician. I say child, but she was probably like
sixteen seventeen. He his daughter got it, and he really
and he did research and found out that penicillin shots
in the rear end right really burned it off. And
then how to the rest of your life it's in you. Well,
it's sort of the same thing. If I'm in the college,
I'm not out practical application of CHAP GPT for whatever
business whatever's happening today, So I need somebody to come
in and show it. And that that's an interesting thing
because it's almost as though the technology has had gone
beyond our education system. Yeah, every way, shape and form,
and so the idea is like not to scare that away.
But I watched things because I've been substitute teaching in school,
and I will see things with kids, and I've heard
teachers say I can tell when you use chat GPT
because the punctuation and there are words that you are
certainly not in your vocabulary. But then there was a
piece of me that I thought, boy, I wish the
kid would read what they're writing, so then they could
absorb that and maybe out of curiosity, going to now,
look show me a fourteen I got a fourteen year
old boy. He just popped in and out of the studio.
You think he's doing that? Not a chance.
Speaker 4: So what if we turned school into while students were
in school? While they were in class, it was only
about reading and recomprehension and problem solving, yes, and less
about the writing about problems they don't care about because
AI can do those.
Speaker 2: Well, see that? Okay, So that that's a great thing.
And I've only been doing this for a few weeks,
and it's interesting to me. It was just something I
with a fourteen year old boy who hasn't lived with
me for four years, all of a sudden comes to
live with me. My grocery bill's gone up. Everything's gone up,
like I'm buying phones. I didn't know I had to
buy it's another three hundred dollars every day. He's a
three hundred dollars purchase somewhere. So I go, I got
to do something during the day, right, So I do
this with the substitute teaching, and I've really enjoyed it,
and I like the kids to high school kid, it's
just because they're to me. I really thought about this,
and I go, I think they can teach me something,
which I may sound dumb, but I really do. And
I'm watching them and I'm seeing how they interact with
things and how they're embracing the technology and how much
easier it is for them. Now. One of the things
you said, right, because a lot of the math stuff
in the I'll say the lower end of high school
ninth tenth grade right now would be algebra and finding
the slope intercept of things like if you're going to
build stairs, you probably need to know that rise run.
I've built stairs in my life. I've had to do
rise run chat GPT can do that. What these kids
will say is when am I ever going to use
this in my life? Fair question. My answer back is
knowledge for the sake of knowledge is great and it
helps you to think creatively, you know what I'm saying,
or critically I shouldn't say creatively, but critically you can
actually look in problem solve. These these same steps that
you're taking to problem solve can be used in many
different ways. Do we lose that with CHAT GPT, doing
that work for us or do we maybe grow in
other areas? I don't know the answer. I ask you expert.
Speaker 4: In my opinion, if you're using AI in the right way,
then it's just going to take us to the next level.
But we have to make sure that we're keeping that
human element of Okay, this is a tool, use the tool,
but then go beyond it, because I mean, look at
uh a few hundred years ago, like there wasn't like
anything like what we have now, and their processes were
a lot more manual, right, And the Industrial Revolution happened, Yes.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, kept saying things kept evolving.
Speaker 4: Right, and they're like, oh no, this is the end
nobody's gonna have. But no, it just became what the
average worker, their day to day job became something different.
So maybe dad analytics, yes, those kind of jobs are
gonna start going away, but maybe.
Speaker 2: They tho't like them.
Speaker 4: But now we could take that and they get set
of A prompt engineer is a job, a job that
I could see actually like starting to replace that because
it's still low skill, it's not still a difficult thing
to do. But if you could, like if you take
somebody that doesn't know what they're doing in chat GPT
and give them a task or a question or anything
like that and say, okay, figure it out and they
just kind of talk to it and guess their way
through it, versus somebody who actually knows how to give
the context of the question, why they need the question,
what the goal needs to be, things like that over
explains it, they're gonna get a wildly better answer from program.
So you can then take that and put it into
any business and say, okay, we need to prompt engineer
and go into any task that we have, make sure
we're maximizing our AI prompting whatever you like.
Speaker 2: Have you interest.
Speaker 4: It's not a high end skill, but it's about the
same level as a data analytics.
Speaker 6: Like entry level.
Speaker 2: Yes, but something that again would be needed right to
give it. Yeah, a little more modern, Kevin, I'll give
you a funny story today. I wish I had chat
GPT to polish this answer so much like I'm telling
these guys in a math support like study hall, right,
these kids need a little more help with stuff. And
this one girl's like, she's complaining, when am I ever
gonna use this blah blah blah blah blah. And she
had a huge personality and she was funny and she
was personable, and she was chatty and talking to me
and just a nice kid. And I said, I go,
you can't have this bigger personality and not be smart.
And this other kid turns around and goes, wow, he
just low key called you stupid. And I went those
words never left my mouth. I go, I never said that.
I just said, you can't have all this like she
had a big vocabulary, and she was funny, and she
was really like just this personality just took up the room, right,
And I found it entertaining. I found everything about this
kid interesting. And I go, you can't be that this
bigger personality and not be smart. And he goes, you
low key called her stupid. I go, wow, I just
got chatchepd by a fourteen year old kid. That's awesome.
That's great. Well, guys, I find this really interesting and
I think that. Do you have a business card? God
damn it.
Speaker 4: We're digital guys, man.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, you're digital guys. But is there a website
that people can go to?
Speaker 5: Yes week website which is at this time basic. We've
been wildly busy, Yes, reconstructing it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, rock AI dot us.
Speaker 5: We have a Facebook, we have a LinkedIn, and one
of the biggest things that we're working on right now
is we actually have an event coming up in December.
So December fourth at five thirty pm at Tony D's.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a Sunday, right, No, No, that's a Wednesday.
I have jury duty that week December second, I get
called for jury duty.
Speaker 5: So we bought the back room to have an event
where we could bring business owners or really anybody that's
interested in AI. We're gonna put it on a four
hour event. I mean probably two hours of really talking.
It's a four hour event and questions and answers. You know,
we're going to have you know, some of our partners.
We're going to show what we do, how we can
help and kind of do a little bit more of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I and it would be let's just say,
any business you run a gym.
Speaker 6: It's anything it can help you.
Speaker 4: We can't help all businesses equally, but no, we can't
help any business.
Speaker 2: Yeah, any business. That's what I'm thinking, is like, there
is a way to make yourself more efficient using technology
that isn't going to cost you a salary and benefits
and all that, which is maybe I shouldn't be saying that,
but and that's the fear, right, that's the fear that
people have.
Speaker 4: But augment their employees that they have.
Speaker 2: Now, yes, right, and grow and then maybe.
Speaker 4: Take away jobs trying to make people work better and
more efficiently and get more done with less time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's great working here.
Speaker 3: I must be like, hey, we don't get salary, we
don't get benefits.
Speaker 2: Chad KM, Jack KM right there, Brendan Fraser and Cody Brendan,
thank you guys for for coming then. And Brendan, I
hope that uh someday maybe you have jet cheapt write
your script and you I don't know, getting.
Speaker 4: The partner with the real one.
Speaker 2: There you go. I think it's great. It's what is
it rock AI?
Speaker 6: It's rock AI.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And if anybody's interested in going to the event,
we have an event break just have to click on
the event bright link if you do a search for
it in their portal.
Speaker 2: Just so you just look for rock Ai.
Speaker 5: It's a free it's a free event, but we have
to make sure that you have to r s VP.
Speaker 6: Okay, tell Tony how many people?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, So and that's on December fourth, Yeah, which is
a Wednesday. We say Wednesday, Yes, Saturday, Monday, Yes, I
did in my in my mind, I'm going it's Monday.
It's December second.
Speaker 3: He needs a calendar.
Speaker 2: I do. I need a calendar, I need chet CHPT,
I need all of it. Thank you, gentlemen. We will
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Speaker 2: That's pretty funny. But these guys from rock AI are
saying that they can even make your business run more efficiently.
Can we say, how like employee theft that sort of thing?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean we can absolutely cover that.
Speaker 5: But no, there there are programs, especially like in the
industrial space that we that we utilize that you know,
we can implement into camera systems and actually track employee
efficiency or really more importantly safety for a lot of
companies because safety is it's a big thing. Yeah, you know,
are you lifting things properly? You know, are forklifts being
used in stunts type of thing?
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gonna be like, oh, that's horrible. I don't want a
camera breathing down my neck. That's not how it's being used.
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build accountability.
Speaker 8: But you can also reward your employees too. You know,
it doesn't have to be a bad thing.
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work and you're being safe and everything, you should be
building a reward structure based off of that.
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Speaker 3: I mean, like I even said that that a I
even kind of looks out for you, Like if you're
put in how do I commit suicide? It's going to
flag your accounting and do things like that.
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You know, companies that have accidents. That's obviously costly, but
they don't want their employees, especially that they put money
and time into training, getting hurt.
Speaker 6: So we can keep that from happening.
Speaker 2: The uh but Greg got a business. What do you mean,
oh Ai, I don't want people get hurt. Hurt?
Speaker 4: Well, how to pivot.
Speaker 2: But they have software now for students that a teacher
can go in and see how many key strokes and
how long you worked on something. Right, So the teacher
was explaining to a class, going, hey, I had a
senior who this was the question. He spent one minute
in twenty eight seconds and hit three key strokes because
all he did was copy and pasted from somewhere else.
And that's not what I want. And they can see it,
and they can see it all in real time as
it happens. They played the video back like he played
back the bagage, like, oh my god, I would have
been so screwed.
Speaker 3: There was people that were fired from remote jobs because
they went on Amazon, you know, and since they had
that thing where it would just a little check into it. Yeah,
there was people that were doing that on their mouse,
going out to shop or whatever for hours on end.
So and they were able to track and say, yep,
you just clicking.
Speaker 4: This if we want to go like that far with it, Like,
then what's stopping students from having the script written and
then just copying the strip script?
Speaker 2: A completely right?
Speaker 4: Right, But in that case, like if if an employee
is able to do that and automate their job like that,
the job's wrong. Like change the job, make it one
that is incorporates the AI so factor that in, Oh
they can do that, so then make AI do that,
and then now your job description is this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like you need the people to be
the testers to bend the rules a little bit to
figure out what's next.
Speaker 4: The people that can do that that automate their jobs
and then walk away from the computer honestly, like it.
Speaker 3: Wasn't even they weren't. They were just doing it so
it would show they weren't away.
Speaker 4: It's that management or it doesn't understand AI and hasn't
evolved the role to fit the modern world.
Speaker 2: Well, I hear what you're saying, because you can see
sometimes people on remote jobs. I can see, Hey, Brendan's
at his desk right now, or Brendan's online and it
looks like he's there and he's or Brendan's in a meeting, right,
and it looks like that Brendan could be out, you know,
slamming shots, doing whatever Brendan wants to do. And that's
a different thing, And I think that leads to a
lot of distrust with old school bosses versus somebody who's
a little more I guess, modern new school.
Speaker 4: Why does the job exist? What is the output requirement
for that job to be profitable for the business? What's
the ROI is the job getting done?
Speaker 2: Yes or no?
Speaker 4: Like that's that's kind of the modern way of looking
at it. The trust is a big thing, and I
think that's a different conversation about the big return to
office push.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it is. There is a huge, huge right
now right with everybody pushing to get back into the office.
Do they have that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm supposed to be in three times a week.
Can I I find myself honestly less productive in the
office than I do at home. Yeah, because I'm up
at the office, I'm wandering around talking to people I
haven't seen, catching up with this at home. If I
have a question for somebody, toument I am Other than that,
I'm not bothering anybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hmm, what's the better way in your opinion, is
there a better way? It depends on the business.
Speaker 4: I firmly believe that management and companies that operate basically
embracing AI in every single role and knowing people are
going to use it and then changing every single role
to accommodate that, and then say, okay, this is the
expectation and being fair about it.
Speaker 2: Can you lower salaries because AI is there?
Speaker 4: Well, if you're not doing if you're doing it wrong,
then you can try, But then that job's not be
looked at as very valuable and nobodys gonnapply to it.
Speaker 2: I got you, Okay? Should we call Greg? I got
his I'm all set. Here's yeah, give him a call.
See what he says. See if you answers great Connors,
Connors and Faris. We have a new song for him.
Tell him then it's Zeer Faull. What's up?
Speaker 12: What up?
Speaker 3: He didn't want to answer this call.
Speaker 2: We're on the podcast and we have we have some
AI guys in tonight and we were talking about different
AI platforms and one of them is called Suno and
it'll write songs for you. So your friend who is
just such a huge fan of yours, I don't know
if you know Kevin Mirror.
Speaker 14: Uh.
Speaker 2: He asked for a nineties alternative song about how the
Buffalo Bills lose the Super Bowl this year and what
bridge Greg will jump off? I didn't have to bridge part.
And here is said song. I don't know if you
can hear it, but there's one little.
Speaker 12: Town skin breaking clocks every time Colan's blowing to the
empty stands. Super Bowl dreams sent.
Speaker 2: Here we go, here comes to Greg Park.
Speaker 13: The hook is, Craig, you ever stayed and hope Gregs
down by the rivel wet dreams, A little Colon's blown
to the empty stands, super Gold.
Speaker 7: Dreams like sand say stand bone web stayed, Gregs down
by the river web dreams, A little.
Speaker 2: Breaks down by the river for dreams a lope. I
don't know, Craig. I feel a little bad, but it
was kind of funny. We did get a good chuckle
out of it.
Speaker 14: Well, I mean, it is funny, but that's probably the
reality if it happened. No, no, no sorrows.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get a loped up the Bills and the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: No, I think, uh, I think the chances of the
Bills in the Super Bowl look brighter and brighter every day.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think you know. I mean, look, as long
as the Bills continue to be solid in their like
how they manage the game and not turn the ball over,
you know, this defense is stepping up to the challenge.
And that's the part that I'm thrilled grid with the
Bills is that the defense. I mean, look, they're deeping up.
They've been beeping up on that defense, and the fact
that they were able to hold the Homes to twenty
one points is huge.
Speaker 3: How could AI help the Bills win on the field,
That's a great question.
Speaker 2: I don't watch football, I don't watch the bull This.
Speaker 14: Is how I think AI can help the Bills is
that is that they have to utilize, especially against defenses
that play as much man demand as Spags does. With
the Chiefs, they got to use motion more. I mean
there is Dan, there is drilling there.
Speaker 2: No, he's not not tonight.
Speaker 14: Oh all right, well, I just it's for me. It's uh,
it's a matter of that offense, right, I mean Brady
did well, but look the AI, the AI that Josh
has played on that fourth and two play is epics
because the Chiefs ran the perfect defense for the play
that was called because the built up that they'd be
manned a man but they actually did a press They
did a press zone coverage. So Josh is about to
throw an intersection to recognize it. Thank God that AI
that he has there. You kidding me. I'm plugged in
right now, Kevin, and uh, and he made the adjustment
and and it, you know, and then he just made
he just made it happen. Josh making dreams happen. Man,
it was Uh, it was exciting. Too bad, you guys weren't.
Speaker 2: There that I got to tell you something that looked
like just an environment that you'll never forget loud exciting,
you know. And I get it. It's regular season. What
happens in the playoffs, We know that. But this was
it was nice to end their undefeated season mark.
Speaker 3: The soldier was looking for you.
Speaker 14: Oh, I mean, I gotta tell you. I mean people
were like, ah, you know, McDermott, humble and hungry. Who's
gonna remember who won week to eleven in the twenty
twenty four football season. You know, who's gonna remember this
team when they're playing in the playoffs and they know
what it feels like to be at home and how
important this game was to get a higher seat. This
game was huge for them. The most important thing for
me is I think it's going to give them the
confidence that they need to win and play in the playoffs. Yeah,
because last the last two years that the Built had
beaten the Chief in the in the in the in
the regular season, he's weren't at full strength the Chief.
Chris Jones was out, Kelsey was out. This year, the
only person that was out that is of any significance
was Pacheco, And I don't think Pacheco's gonna make that
much of a huge difference in the games that come,
particularly the way they've run the balls without him. Yeah,
So I think this game for the Bills gives him
a lot of confidence that they played the Chief full
strength for the first time and beat him.
Speaker 2: How about the fact that Milano could be back and
you've got guys playing so well on defense already. Would
that be a disruption in your opinion? I mean, really,
the guy who was many people think is the leader,
but ye have Bernard playing out of his mind.
Speaker 14: Yeah, No, Bernard is playing out of his mind. But
you know, I mean Dorian, Dorian Williams is doing really well.
But he's still I mean, he had a rough game
against the Chiefs that that he played well, but there's
a lot more that that that Mlonald brings to the table,
that that would be an addition to the team. Now,
what I think this does is that you know, I
mean Mlonald's coming off of two injuries.
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, right, are you playing?
Speaker 14: I am playing pac Man. I'm trying to back out
of the driveway. My mom pinned me in and so
I'm freaking bouncing off to her car.
Speaker 2: So I'm sorry. I didn't We should hang up and
let you go. I didn't mean to disrupt your nightday.
Speaker 14: Hey, it's just start Tuesday night diet her, that's all,
you know. Taking mom out for dinner on Tuesday. I
got a so little, so little love for there. So
Jen and I are taking her out to dinner, going
down to Patron Saint, the new steakhouse.
Speaker 2: Heard many things about Patron Saint, another one of those
Josh Miles places, and people are loving it.
Speaker 14: Yeah that's what we're hearing. So you know, I figured
that I would take take Mom and Jen down to
try it out and we could give you a review.
All right, But getting back to Milano getting back to Milano.
I think what they what this allows this team to
do is to allow Milano to come back and come
back at full train. And Milano is the type of
athlete has a skill set and the experience that he
can just fit in and now you've got depth there
and that that definitely helps the defense and changes the
defense because having two players that have that speed and
the jilly like Bernard and now Milano fit the system
so well that again going in the Bills just got
to stay healthy right coming into December. It's all about
being healthy in December. But most importantly last year, we
were healthy in December. We were not healthy in January
and that's where the and that's where we got banged up,
and that's where the Chiefs did their thing. So, you know,
God willing and everything continues to go well and the
Bills stay healthy through December and into January. Because we
got banged up in that first playoff game against the Steelers.
Speaker 2: Yeah we did. But there's something different. I don't know
if you agree with this or not. There feels like
there's something different. There was a calm, cool collectiveness with
this team. Josh making smart moves even the run. You know,
you're calling it the josh Ai right, seeing a play
that isn't there and not forcing it and taking off
there just seems to be something that's I don't know.
I don't know if it's a team intelligence, not just
player intelligence, but overall team just seems to be more
aware of things and you and you go, boy, that
can only get better? And will that help them?
Speaker 7: Is this?
Speaker 2: Is this the super Bowl season? Could this be the
year that you got two teams that have never won
a Super Bowl, the Bills and the Lions facing off potentially?
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think I think you're You're spot on. And
what this team is is a team. They all have
a it's all about each other. It's not about not
about individual it's about the team. And Josh is truly
the full time leader here. He is the guy, and
he is humble. He is a very humble person. He
doesn't look really accolades. He's always pushed it to everybody else.
Guys respond to that. You got rid of the cancer
when Giggs was in and he was all about Josh.
He was all about the love, he was all about
the team. Everything was good. That was their strongest season.
It's when all of a sudden he got to be
about him more so than it didn't seem like the
team is when you start to get those erosions, you
start to get those splinters, and that people don't respond
to that. I mean, the greatest compliment that this team
received so far this year, in my opinion, was the
Marii Cooper's comment in the locker room after the game
about how different it feels, how good it feels to
be a part of this team, A part of this
group died. I was just like, you know what, Bill,
You're spot on. That's the difference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of Look, it kind of comes through
when you watch this team because there's that it doesn't
feel forced or hurried or there's just a collective Uh.
I want to say, a collective confidence with the team
that you know they they can do this, and look
they put up great points. Cooper looks like he fits in. Well, uh,
you know, I can only see you know what happens
when Keon Coleman comes back or if he is he
coming back, Yeah, he'll be back, so yeah he should
be back.
Speaker 14: Yeah. And again me with Coleman, I'm luke warm with Coleman.
I don't think Amari Cooper is a great addition for
Coleman too, because you see how you run routes right.
He can see what it takes to be a professional.
And Coleman has evolved and he's had some spots where
he has played well. The think I'm most impressed with
Coleman is this blocking up the field.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 14: His downfield blocking to me through a rookie to some
of the best I've ever seen and even been looked at.
And I love that kind of stuff. Foot Again, that's
about being humble. You get big egos. Why am I
blocking downfield? I'm not getting involved knocking up with my statue.
I'm not collecting fantasy points for it. Some of the
guys don't do that though, But Josh and McDermott has
got each individual person believing that for a higher good
and for a higher cause. By the way o Cyrus torran,
you want to talk about unsung heroes, he played Chris
Jones better than I think any lineman the Bills have
ever had in any guard, tackle or center position, including
Eric Woods. That guy was an animal against him on Sunday. Yeah,
those are the type of things that you get guys
buying in and playing at that level and trusting the
guy next to you to do their job. That's what
makes this team special. And that's what got me, and
I know so many other people was so excited about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you buy ten percent?
Speaker 14: Man? You guys, I mean you guys. I've told you, guys,
the story about the lines and the bills, the connections
between the lines and the builds is a lot stronger
than most people understand or know. Ralph Wilson was part
owner of the Lion with the poor family, and he
relinquished it in order to buy the bills. So after
meeting Ralph and his wife and knowing that and getting
to appreciate that and how he had that, you know,
you know, it's it's you know, it's like your first kid,
well both your kids, but you know there's always a
little there was a little something special there. So I
love that the line you're doing what they're doing or Luke,
you know, Luke is the second one. He's the one
that you know, he's the one that I was able
to go after and get Lukey David.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 14: So anyways, great time, guys, appreciate the phone call.
Speaker 2: All. Thanks for letting us, interrupt your knight, say hi
to mom as you check out Patron Saint.
Speaker 14: Yes. And the next time Kevin requests a song for me,
can it be a positive one, something that's fun?
Speaker 3: Says that's not possible. Cary Rails, thank.
Speaker 14: You, Greg, Hey, guys have fun.
Speaker 2: Thanks go Bills. There he goes Greg Connor. So that's
interesting with the chat, GPT song and everything. Yeah, I'm
pretty sure.
Speaker 13: Ai.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think he understood the question when I
said the Bills sold ten percent of the team to investors.
And I keep saying he's the future owner of the
Buffalo Bills because he sponsors training camp and he does all.
Speaker 3: He's Tracy McGrady and Josie Altador. Yeah, I can't think
of the third guy.
Speaker 2: So this is sort of like Lebron buying into some
soccer team over in Britain. Doesn't he own Is he
part of an investor group that owns some of that? Yeah?
So that trade. Because I'm here, Tracy McGrady, I'm going
with to Tracy McGrady know about owning the Buffalo Bills,
but interesting.
Speaker 3: Great use of money, about putting the money in.
Speaker 2: That's all he needs to know about that is exactly
exactly true.
Speaker 3: Put your money in, put your feet up, and cash
those checks.
Speaker 2: Anything else you want to say, Cody about AI that
we missed on I.
Speaker 5: Mean, we could go on for hours, but you know,
come to our event and we can you know, cover
it much more in de Honestly, you know event bright
check it out December fourth, Rock AI Rock AI.
Speaker 2: So just put it in an ro O C aile
you're searching.
Speaker 5: You can do that or honestly, it's really easy to
find on event break if you just scroll through events.
But yeah, December events on December fourth, Tony D's.
Speaker 2: Okay, very good. And anything that we missed Brandon AI.
Speaker 4: We can talk for hours, but yeah, yeah, I think
we covered it.
Speaker 2: But everything from like finding efficiency to what your employees
are doing to basically even like employee theft, you can.
Speaker 5: Well you did just ask about the bills. You know,
you could potentially analyze plays and the entire history of
plays in the NFL and see what works, what doesn't work,
and what could be the most efficient way to run
a play with whatever design that's coming after probability of
a place basically probability.
Speaker 3: Statistic probability with the gambling exactly.
Speaker 8: AI loves data, data, analytics, information.
Speaker 5: That's what it thrives on. So you give it raw data.
You can basically feed it the entire history of the NFL.
Speaker 2: Would I make you uncomfortable if I asked, Like, you know,
parlays are a big thing, right, so you get four
parlays or whatever. Somebody's got to get so many yards passing, throwing,
winning touchdowns. Could you put in certain people and find
out statistically, probability wise, which has the most likely to
pay off.
Speaker 5: It'd be better with people with a long play history
rather than The more data the better, obviously, But yeah,
people use this for everything, stock the stock market, I mean,
you name it. It can find discrepancies and probabilities and statistics.
Speaker 4: There's a fully autonomous stock market AI that somebody built
that controlled all the trades and buys, sells, shorts, anything
like that based off of what they said, like they
were willing to risk on each trade, and it just
scanned the entre market, made trades. I think they ended
up making like thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Really Yeah, they.
Speaker 4: Kept it pretty small because they didn't want to lose
a lot. But it just doesn't have emotion and it
goes by data and it succeeds. So I'm sure there's
people doing some degree than that.
Speaker 2: Could you guys build an app that would do that
for somebody? Yes, legalities of it, okay, all right, right, right,
but I'm just saying, okay, anything's possible. I don't want to.
I don't want to. Look at.
Speaker 3: Market is doing fine.
Speaker 5: That's and that's the big thing with you know, in
this industry, you know it's going to come down to creativity.
And honestly, we've been trying to build a few things,
and especially when you use AI and the patent scene
per se, it really comes down to it's kind of
a gray area, but it comes down to the creativity
of the input user. So where AI might give you
the answer to something, you know, it still took somebody
to get that out of it in a working fashion
better than everybody else.
Speaker 3: And it's gonna come down to you guys beat something
and the gonna step in and say.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you can't just copy and paste things.
But you know, if you show your prompt engineering to
get your answer, you know, in a lot of cases
it will be acceptable because you know, like we said,
it's all it's all guardrails.
Speaker 6: It's how you get your answer.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like everything from fitness and health right right
up to stock market or anything. It's all right there
at your fingertips. The Barrier, Tantry, Kevin, the Barrier drawn
all right for Cody, for Brendan from Rock Ai, for
Kevin writing songs about Greg Connor's taking the bridge. If
the Bills lose the Super Bowl, I'm Bill Moran, will
see you tomorrow. Deal didn't know what to do.
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