Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty Friday Nights with not.
Speaker 2: A a Daila Cruz.
Speaker 3: Hello, mo I got a little distracted because I saw Mojo's.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah to wall us back with the food. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's go to break lat.
Speaker 4: It's pie pie pie.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 2: There you go. All right?
Speaker 4: Well, happy Friday.
Speaker 3: It is time for discover SoCal And during my visit
Speaker 3: I went to the Pasadena Museum of History.
Speaker 4: It was absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 3: I had the pleasure of exploring the their fascinating exhibit,
Speaker 3: which is called one hundred Years, one Hundred Images Now.
Speaker 3: The collection brings Pasadena's past to life through a century's
Speaker 3: worth of powerful photographs. The images capture everything from historic
Speaker 3: street scenes to key moments in the city's cultural and
Speaker 3: social evolution. It's a visual time capsule that reflects how
Speaker 3: Pasadena has grown while preserving its deep rooted charm.
Speaker 4: The exhibit also.
Speaker 3: Highlights the artistry of local photographers, which is beautiful. They
Speaker 3: also each image tells a unique story, whether it's the
Speaker 3: early days of the Rose Parade, historic architecture, or everyday
Speaker 3: life in different eras. Some of the features artists some
Speaker 3: of the featured artists include local journalists and independent photographers
Speaker 3: whose work helped shape the way Pasadena was seen and remembered.
Speaker 4: The variety of.
Speaker 3: Perspective adds depth to the experience, making it more than
Speaker 3: just a history lesson. It is a true celebration of
Speaker 3: Pasadena's identity. Now, the museum itself of the historic Fenyes Estate,
Speaker 3: which dates back to nineteen oh five, was built by
Speaker 3: doctor Albert Fenyz and his wife, Eva Scott muse Fenyes,
Speaker 3: that's a long name, yes, Emva Scott mus Fenyas. The
Speaker 3: grand mansion was once a hub of Pasadena's elite, and
Speaker 3: when you look at it from the outside it you
Speaker 3: could just imagine how it was in that era. Now,
Speaker 3: Eva was also an artist and a traveler, and she
Speaker 3: filled the home with artwork and cultural artifacts, some of
Speaker 3: which remain on display today. Years later, the estate was
Speaker 3: passed down to their granddaughter, Leonora Babsy Curtin and her
Speaker 3: husband here's another big mouthful of a name, Yiro Alfred Palogemio,
Speaker 3: a Finnish diplomat.
Speaker 4: Now, in nineteen seventy they.
Speaker 3: Generously donated the property to the city, ensuring its history
Speaker 3: would be preserved for future generations and for just nine
Speaker 3: dollars nine dollars, visitors can explore this unique slice of
Speaker 3: Pasadena's past while the mansion was closed because they have
Speaker 3: an upcoming special event. During my visit, the exhibit alone
Speaker 3: was worth the trip, and whether you're a history lover,
Speaker 3: an art enthusiast, enthusiast, or just looking for something different
Speaker 3: to do on a weekend, I highly suggest the Pasadena
Speaker 3: Museum of History. You could log onto Pasadenahistory dot org.
Speaker 3: That's Pasadenahistory dot org for more information. The exhibit is
Speaker 3: in town till September fourteenth, twenty twenty five. Do check
Speaker 3: their calendar and coming up in Jah next week which
Speaker 3: is the first day of spring, March twentieth. They have
Speaker 3: The Most Human reconciling with my father, Leonard Nimoy and
Speaker 3: Adam Nimoy from seven to eight thirty. It's his memoir
Speaker 3: The Most Human and discover how the son of Spock
Speaker 3: from Star Trek learned to navigate his unstable relationship and
Speaker 3: now he was finally able to reconcile with his father
Speaker 3: and himself. And that event is eighteen dollars, but you
Speaker 3: have to reserve your ticket. So it's it's really a
Speaker 3: little bit of everything at this museum. But I highly
Speaker 3: suggest that you go to their website because they have
Speaker 3: different events and once again it's the Pasadena Museum of History,
Speaker 3: four seven zero West Walnut Street in Pasadena. Are also
Speaker 3: allowed if you pay for the entrance to the museum.
Speaker 3: You're also allowed to walk on the premises as well,
Speaker 3: and you cannot take pictures without a permit because sometimes
Speaker 3: you know people, right. But it's gorgeous and beautiful and
Speaker 3: I could just just.
Speaker 4: Standing in front of that mansion.
Speaker 3: I could just see all the just the dresses and
Speaker 3: the attire and the celebrities of that era and just
Speaker 3: imagining just you know, just kind of like like if
Speaker 3: you were there in a way like that era of
Speaker 3: the Great Gaspion a way with all the flapper dresses
Speaker 3: and you know, just beauty, just absolutely beautiful. Now I
Speaker 3: didn't get to go, like I said, inside, because they're
Speaker 3: getting preparing, they're preparing for an event. But I did
Speaker 3: get to see the pictures online. Stunning house, stunning great
Speaker 3: art collection, just a lot of history there.
Speaker 2: I love it because you remind me of what is
Speaker 2: right in our backyard that I don't even think about,
Speaker 2: but it may inspire so many people to visit because
Speaker 2: we overlook a lot, because there's so much that's bombarding
Speaker 2: us and vying for our attention, and there are truly
Speaker 2: some great places to discover right where we live already, and.
Speaker 4: We don't go to it.
Speaker 3: That's the funny part, right, that's why we do this, right,
Speaker 3: you know, And like we've said a million times before,
Speaker 3: we only go to certain places when we have people
Speaker 3: visiting from out of town and it's so sad. They
Speaker 3: want to go, and they want to go, and you're like, well,
Speaker 3: I've never been there, Sure let me go. You know,
Speaker 3: I haven't been to the It's on my list to
Speaker 3: go before the end of the month.
Speaker 4: The Ronald Reagan. I think it's the library.
Speaker 3: I am dying to go, and I that's that's on
Speaker 3: my bucket list.
Speaker 2: I haven't you know what, I haven't been to the
Speaker 2: Reagan Library. I've been to the Nixon Library, but I
Speaker 2: haven't been to the Reagan Library.
Speaker 4: Where's the Nixon Library.
Speaker 2: It's in Orange County. I can't take I went out
Speaker 2: there for an event. Actually it was Bruno Serrato Katerina's Club,
Speaker 2: their annual event out there.
Speaker 4: Oh, wonderful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was good. It was got to
Speaker 2: be able to take my mom and my wife. It was.
Speaker 2: It was a really good evening.
Speaker 4: Oh that's wonderful.
Speaker 3: Once again, if you'd like to go Pasadena Museum of History,
Speaker 3: log onto Pasadenaistory dot org.
Speaker 4: Coming up, we do have the hint and jem.
Speaker 3: But before we go to break, I want to say
Speaker 3: he's not here today, but happy birthday to Pedro Moreno.
Speaker 4: Oh today he's.
Speaker 2: Twenty five, so that's why he's off tonight.
Speaker 4: Yes, I checked.
Speaker 3: We follow each other on Instagram and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's your birthday. I was like, I doubt he's going
Speaker 3: to be there, but I'm gonna wish him a happy birthday.
Speaker 3: So happy birthday, Pedroo Moreno.
Speaker 2: I have to reach out to birthday. You had to
Speaker 2: just show off this bilingual showing everybody else.
Speaker 3: You know, pie pie Pie. You gotta tell a story
Speaker 3: where we're done with their hind and jem.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we can tell it right now, right right,
Speaker 2: go ahead, tell it. Oh, this is a pie day,
Speaker 2: Pi day.
Speaker 3: But you were talking about pies and just food and
Speaker 3: then I don't know, I thought of in sync and
Speaker 3: said of the song Bye Bye, I said, Pottypie, pie.
Speaker 2: Pie, you're gonna do the choreography and the moves and everything.
Speaker 4: I don't really know it. I'm sorry, really no, I.
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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you very much, Nick, I appreciate that. All right,
Speaker 3: it's time for the Hidden Jam. Today's Hyden jem is
Speaker 3: Victoria Vicky Velos. Vicky Velos had always loved fashion. As
Speaker 3: an assistant costume designer in the bustling Los Angeles film
Speaker 3: industry that we're in, she was constantly surrounded by racks
Speaker 3: of glamorous outfits, designer shoes, and accessories that could transform
Speaker 3: anyone into a star. But outside of work, her passion
Speaker 3: for clothing turned into something else, an addiction, to shopping.
Speaker 3: She bought dresses she never wore, shoes that never left
Speaker 3: the box, and jackets that stayed buried in the back
Speaker 3: of her closet. It all came to a head one
Speaker 3: evening when she heard this loud crack. The wooden bar
Speaker 3: in the closet had snapped in half under the weight
Speaker 3: of her overflowing wardrobe. That was the moment she knew
Speaker 3: she had a problem, and I'm sure some women can relate.
Speaker 3: Determined to change, Vicky decided to do an early round
Speaker 3: of spring cleaning as she shorted through.
Speaker 4: As she sorted through her.
Speaker 3: Clothes, she found countless items with price tags still attached,
Speaker 3: pieces that were out of season, things that didn't fit
Speaker 3: her anymore or simply was in her style. She realized
Speaker 3: she had spent thousands of dollars on things she never
Speaker 3: even used. Like so many women, she often stood in
Speaker 3: front of her overflowing closet and thought, I have nothing
Speaker 3: to wear, and I know fellas have heard that before.
Speaker 3: But this time, instead of tossing everything into the trash,
Speaker 3: she wanted to do something good with it. Then that's
Speaker 3: when she discovered Planet Aid, a nonprofit organization that collects
Speaker 3: and recycles new and use clothing to support environmental and
Speaker 3: humanitarian efforts around the world. Planet Aid makes it easy
Speaker 3: for people to give their clothing a second life. The
Speaker 3: organization places donation bins in the cities across the county
Speaker 3: where people can drop off unwanted clothes and shoes instead
Speaker 3: of ending up in the landfills. These items are sorted, reused,
Speaker 3: and or repurpose to fund programs that improve education, health
Speaker 3: and community development and struggling regions. Their mission is to
Speaker 3: reduce waste, promote sustainability, and provide resources to those and needs.
Speaker 3: Fast fashion and excessive consumerism have led to a staggering
Speaker 3: levels of clothing waste in America, and here are some
Speaker 3: eye opening facts. The average American throws away eighty one
Speaker 3: pounds of clothing each year, eighty five percent of textiles
Speaker 3: end up on landfields instead of being recycled, and the
Speaker 3: fashion industry is responsible for nearly ten percent of global
Speaker 3: carbon emissions. Thanks to Planet Aid, Vicki was able to
Speaker 3: turn her shopping habit into something positive. She now has
Speaker 3: decluttered and she now thinks twice before making a purchase,
Speaker 3: and she also asks herself do I need it? Do
Speaker 3: I have room in my closet and is it necessary.
Speaker 3: So for more information, visit planetaid dot org. And in
Speaker 3: some areas you will see the yellow bins by a
Speaker 3: store or maybe a shopping center and some other companies
Speaker 3: also they provide the same service. The bins are either
Speaker 3: red or green. So I I want to say that
Speaker 3: spring is coming up. Spring cleaning is around the corner.
Speaker 3: The first day of spring is March twentieth, which is
Speaker 3: next week. So if you have extra clothes that you
Speaker 3: know don't fit you, or you want to donate, or
Speaker 3: they're out.
Speaker 4: Of season, even if they have a price.
Speaker 3: Tag and you know that you're never gonna wear it,
Speaker 3: go ahead and donate it. And for more information, please
Speaker 3: log onto planetaid dot org.
Speaker 2: So you're not a clothes horse.
Speaker 4: You know what? I plead the fifth mode.
Speaker 3: No, actually I used to be, but I now have downside.
Speaker 3: I live in a one bedroom, one bath and I
Speaker 3: have a small closet. So I have really condensed and
Speaker 3: I've really enjoyed the minimalism life.
Speaker 2: Well, my wife downsizees me because for some reason, every
Speaker 2: time I walk into the closet, I have less room
Speaker 2: and she has more room. Okay, And there's certain articles
Speaker 2: of clothing I can can't seem to find for some.
Speaker 4: Reason, they've gone missing.
Speaker 2: They've gone Yes, they are missing. I don't want to
Speaker 2: point fingers at anyone and make assumptions like someone's throwing
Speaker 2: out my clothes. I'm just saying I can't find them.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But let me ask you this, because this is an
Speaker 3: infamous line, and I'm sure Mark and Steph and Nick
Speaker 3: have heard when a woman says I have nothing to wear,
Speaker 3: you do have stuff to wear.
Speaker 4: You just don't like what you have in your closet.
Speaker 4: That's what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's no different than saying, you know, we got
Speaker 2: forty five different streaming services, and maybe we have a
Speaker 2: streaming live TV provider and we say there's nothing on.
Speaker 4: TV right exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but look, I understand I can generalize. Women's relationship
Speaker 2: with clothes is different from ment. Mark and I were
Speaker 2: similar in respect. I have almost an uniform. I wear
Speaker 2: some blue, some black, some gray, and we'll leave it
Speaker 2: at that, and ver we want to get spicy, I'll
Speaker 2: throw in some brown. I save my dressing up from
Speaker 2: when I'm doing TV or I'm going out for the evening,
Speaker 2: I'll put on a suit or something like that. Other
Speaker 2: than that, it's all about comfort or.
Speaker 4: Date night as well. But you know, I'm just saying
Speaker 4: if you have a date night with you.
Speaker 3: But you know what with the funny part of when
Speaker 3: I was talking to Victoria or Vicky, she was telling
Speaker 3: me her story and one of my best friends, she
Speaker 3: lives in a two bedroom with her daughter, and the
Speaker 3: same thing. She said, she was watching TV and she
Speaker 3: heard this loud like crack and she could not find
Speaker 3: where it came from.
Speaker 4: She was like, something hit my window, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: And she said the next morning when she went to
Speaker 3: pick something out for work, that was she found all
Speaker 3: her clothes on the floor.
Speaker 4: She was like, oh, that was the loud noise.
Speaker 3: And you know, those wood bars could only take so
Speaker 3: much weight. But sometimes I believe in hey, every season,
Speaker 3: let's go through, go through your closet, go through your
Speaker 3: closet and just clean out some stuff.
Speaker 2: I try to get better with that because there's things
Speaker 2: that I can look and realize I'm never gonna wear
Speaker 2: that again. I'm not you know, whether I'm holding onto
Speaker 2: it because I want to lose ten pounds or something
Speaker 2: and wear it, or it's not in style. I'm not
Speaker 2: ever going to wear it, and then I try to
Speaker 2: either take it to the goodwill or something, but it's
Speaker 2: not going to stay in the closet. I try to
Speaker 2: declutter every year, and I don't like to hold on
Speaker 2: to things.
Speaker 3: And you know, when you're driving around, like I said,
Speaker 3: Planet Aid is the yellow bins.
Speaker 4: They're really bright, like right yellow bin. But they also
Speaker 4: have the green bins, and they also have these red binds.
Speaker 3: So if you you know, if you if you see one,
Speaker 3: like sometimes you'll see one in a shopping center where
Speaker 3: there is like a seven eleven, or if you see
Speaker 3: one and go, hey, I have some you know, clothes
Speaker 3: to donate, let me drop them off over here.
Speaker 4: So they go.
Speaker 3: It's for a very good cause, and it's good to
Speaker 3: you know, kind of repurpose our clothes and repurpose the
Speaker 3: things that we're just not going to use anymore.
Speaker 5: See Mark, you got all the reason now to clean
Speaker 5: out your closet. I wouldn't know where to start it
Speaker 5: because everything is the same.
Speaker 2: Yes, we're men of few.
Speaker 4: Choices, right, I love it.
Speaker 2: Stephan? What about you? Are there things that you're holding
Speaker 2: on to for a little bit too long?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: I Actually I had that conversation with Nautika. When I
Speaker 2: recently had a little move, I got rid of anything
Speaker 2: or donated anything that I'm never gonna wear again. And
Speaker 2: then you know, I never wear pants, so it's always
Speaker 2: shorts for me. Yeah, how do you do that? Where
Speaker 2: did that come from? Was that something that just started
Speaker 2: when you were a youth?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: When I was a kid and I just and I
Speaker 2: run hot in general, and everyone asked me like, oh,
Speaker 2: so you must be from the East Coast and I'm like, nope,
Speaker 2: born and raised in LA But yeah, the only time
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wear shorts, it's got to be really hot.
Speaker 2: And obviously I'm not at work, I mean out on
Speaker 2: rare occasions in the summer, I wear shorts to work,
Speaker 2: and that was more function of doing the weekend show
Speaker 2: because it was the weekend weekend. Yeah, but coming in
Speaker 2: in the office, like I'm just not gonna wear shorts,
Speaker 2: You'll find me ninety nine times out of one hundred
Speaker 2: in a collar style shirt. I'm not gonna wear a
Speaker 2: T shirt. That's just me. So not even at Chateau
Speaker 2: Lemo you know, rock shorts. I'm trying to think some
Speaker 2: years I have some years. I haven't. Okay, but that
Speaker 2: was the fourth of July. Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 3: You did rock shorts last summer when it was like
Speaker 3: one hundred and fourteen and one hundred and ten.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you showed your chicken legs and they were good.
Speaker 2: They excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. They're not chicken legs.
Speaker 2: They've been doing thousands and thousands of kicks. You know,
Speaker 2: see how they treated it here.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 2: I'm just furniture.
Speaker 4: We love you.
Speaker 2: How is it okay? Now, I'm gonna come to your
Speaker 2: defense for just a moment. Not at Taylor Cruise. Yes,
Speaker 2: Sir Stephan is laughing his ass off, and he still
Speaker 2: don't get a rim shot. It's just just like, what
Speaker 2: what the hell is it? What are we doing here?
Speaker 2: It's an after but it's an afterthought. There's that we
Speaker 2: have a system here. It's about principles. It's principalities. If
Speaker 2: someone says something funny, you get him rim shot. That's
Speaker 2: your job. It's literally says that I forgot Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: it's in the work details. Mark has given up on you.
Speaker 2: I have not given up on you. Heller. Speaking of Mark,
Speaker 2: we have the Runner Report. When we come back with
Speaker 2: a little Manson Tide.
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Speaker 5: I was reading the book about the Manson killings called
Speaker 5: Chaos by Tom O'Neill, and he was on my short
Speaker 5: list of people to invite as a guest whenever I
Speaker 5: filled in again as host, if that ever happens again.
Speaker 5: I'd always been interested in that stuff. And before I
Speaker 5: moved to La I was visiting and a friend drove
Speaker 5: me to where the house on Clo was where Sharon
Speaker 5: Taate and the others were murdered, just because he knew
Speaker 5: I'd like that. I wasn't finished with the Chaos book.
Speaker 5: The library yanked it from me on my iPad because
Speaker 5: it was due. We're living in the future, then I
Speaker 5: see Chaos. The Manson Murders is a documentary on Netflix
Speaker 5: and directed by Errol Morris. No Less, no Brainer, Front
Speaker 5: of the line. Here is the trailer that's.
Speaker 8: One of the scariest true stories out there.
Speaker 4: I had and a half month pregnant, beautiful woman.
Speaker 2: Getting stabbed to death.
Speaker 8: Madison was able to gain control of his followers, but
Speaker 8: he could get them to go out and kill on
Speaker 8: command without remorse. How did he learn how to brainwash
Speaker 8: those kids and turn them into monsters?
Speaker 6: These people were on LSD. Manson was preaching all the
Speaker 6: time Race Wars.
Speaker 4: The murder was okay, what a story did start to emerge.
Speaker 8: It was managed very carefully to manage and manipulated.
Speaker 2: I know that what we were told isn't what happened.
Speaker 8: There were these research sciences you were working secretly for
Speaker 8: the government.
Speaker 6: One of the most bizarre itself in CIA history.
Speaker 8: Plant false memories and people without their awareness.
Speaker 6: My Manson was really into mind control.
Speaker 8: And I'm understing what I was doing, not just mentally
Speaker 8: difference Mathson became exactly what the CIA was trying to create.
Speaker 3: Well, you're suggesting your Manson was a puppet.
Speaker 5: Now, Morris won an oscar for the Fog of War
Speaker 5: back in two thousand and four, and if you haven't
Speaker 5: seen that, you're in for a treat. He's also done
Speaker 5: the Thin Blue Line, and none of this is dull
Speaker 5: homework stuff. It's totally absorbing. Morris is seventy seven now,
Speaker 5: and not only has he not lost a step, but
Speaker 5: Chaos is such an immersive documentary that it really added
Speaker 5: layers to my understanding of this Manson case. And I
Speaker 5: wish it had been twice as long. It's just ninety
Speaker 5: six minutes. You could fit like two and a half
Speaker 5: of them into one brutalist. If you're like me, you've
Speaker 5: gone to sleep plenty of times with true crime documentaries
Speaker 5: on TV because they're soothing, and the guys with the
Speaker 5: deep voices are also very soothing to listen to while
Speaker 5: they're talking about horrific stuff. But you're not dozen off
Speaker 5: during this documentary with the graphics and the editing. This
Speaker 5: like documentary adderall we know. The Tate LaBianca killings back
Speaker 5: in nineteen sixty nine were so horrifying that they more
Speaker 5: or less ended the Swinging sixties, and they had an
Speaker 5: effect similar to what I understand about the Charles Starkweather
Speaker 5: killing spree a decade before that. People were freaked out
Speaker 5: and scared. Maybe you loved Quentin Tarantinos once upon a
Speaker 5: time in Hollywood like I did, for giving us the
Speaker 5: fantasy ending we wished for a lot like the one
Speaker 5: in Inglorious Bastards. Here's a spoiler, they smoke Hitler. Chaos
Speaker 5: does a thorough and, like I indicated, a hyperactive job
Speaker 5: of explaining who everyone was, where they were, how they
Speaker 5: were related to each other. The thing just barely stopped
Speaker 5: short of showing charts with red string showing who gave
Speaker 5: each other chlamytea. It's extremely thorough. If you've read Helter Skelter,
Speaker 5: the Chaos book and documentary are a whole different ballgame
Speaker 5: in that it sort of craps all over Helter Skelter
Speaker 5: and Vincent Buliosi, the Manson prosecutor who wrote it or
Speaker 5: co wrote it or had a ghost written that was
Speaker 5: the all time best selling true crime book. I wouldn't
Speaker 5: say I knew or was friends with Buliosi, but I
Speaker 5: interviewed him around two thousand and eight for his book
Speaker 5: called The Prosecution of George W. Bush from Murder. Whatever
Speaker 5: you want to say about the guy, he had balls
Speaker 5: roughly the size of the Goodyear Blimp. In twenty twenty five,
Speaker 5: not a lot of people are going to argue that
Speaker 5: our invasion of Iraq was righteous or had anything to
Speaker 5: do with the nine to eleven attack. It's an objective,
Speaker 5: non partisan fact at this point, and if you got
Speaker 5: a problem with it, go pick an argument with a historian.
Speaker 5: Not me, but back in two thousand and eight putting
Speaker 5: out a book about prosecuting a president for lying US
Speaker 5: into a war and the American soldiers who died from that,
Speaker 5: let's just say that it took some nerve. In fact,
Speaker 5: it got him blackballed from national media. If you look
Speaker 5: at the reception section for the book on Wikipedia, that's blank.
Speaker 5: The guy who wrote the all time best selling true
Speaker 5: crime book gets shut out of national media. And I
Speaker 5: was the only person in major media at the time,
Speaker 5: at the Seattle Times, in fact, to give him some ink.
Speaker 5: And it involves sticking my own neck out a little bit.
Speaker 5: I found Boo Leosi to be sharp and impressive, not
Speaker 5: just in the interview, but throughout the process that goes
Speaker 5: with that stuff, the follow ups, the fact checks. It's
Speaker 5: not like just sitting down for a tight five with
Speaker 5: Jimmy Kimmel. It's an exhaustive quality control process, and you
Speaker 5: don't really get it with a blog these days. After
Speaker 5: the interview finally ran Bugliosi came to the old Seattle
Speaker 5: Times building to thank me and shake my hand in person,
Speaker 5: which was one of those solid old school marks of class.
Speaker 5: I really liked him. Now, to be clear, this isn't
Speaker 5: some rambling bragathon about somebody famous I had a connection with.
Speaker 5: I'm admitting to you how naive I was, and how
Speaker 5: this new documentary and book have caused me to rethink
Speaker 5: that whole scenario. Try to imagine how gobsmacked I was
Speaker 5: reading Tom O'Neil's Chaos and watching the Morris documentary to
Speaker 5: be told that Bugliosi may have fudged him stuff to
Speaker 5: shape the Manson story how he wanted it, and the
Speaker 5: real story was likely different and larger. And what that
Speaker 5: book goes into that the documentary doesn't is Boogliosi's back
Speaker 5: and forth with O'Neil, which gets a little nuts as
Speaker 5: O'Neil comes back to him with information that doesn't add
Speaker 5: up about the Manson case, and Bugliosi gets increasingly bent
Speaker 5: out of shape. Now he's not around to defend himself.
Speaker 5: He's gone, So I guess O'Neil gets the last word.
Speaker 5: But O'Neil makes a compelling case at the very least,
Speaker 5: that Bugliosi was mainly interested in making himself a star
Speaker 5: and then protecting his legacy. There's lots more in the
Speaker 5: documentary that I'll point out but not completely spoil. One
Speaker 5: thing is how close Manson was to break it into
Speaker 5: the music industry and maybe becoming a star. You heard
Speaker 5: a snippet of his singing in the trailer. One of
Speaker 5: the Beats Boys was very involved with the Manson family,
Speaker 5: Dennis Wilson. He died in nineteen eighty three, so I
Speaker 5: guess O'Neil gets the last word on him too. But
Speaker 5: some of Vnson's music is played in the documentary, and
Speaker 5: it almost pains me to say this. It ain't terrible,
Speaker 5: It's of its time, and this drives home the concept
Speaker 5: that things could have easily gone the other way for
Speaker 5: him and lots of others around him. Something else O'Neil
Speaker 5: gets into, which a surviving prosecutor disagrees with, is a
Speaker 5: possible connection with Manson an MK Ultra, which was essentially
Speaker 5: a ci A mind control program. How did Charlie go
Speaker 5: from being a somewhat charismatic X con loser who nobody
Speaker 5: really took seriously back in the hate Ashbury District to
Speaker 5: a cult leader who could make women and men do
Speaker 5: anything for him, including killing. Maybe it wasn't just the riz.
Speaker 5: How did Manson get so many breaks from the cops
Speaker 5: when he was on parole when they should have violated
Speaker 5: his ass several times over. I don't know how much
Speaker 5: I buy into the mk ultra angle, or even how
Speaker 5: much Morris does as a filmmaker. He strikes some new
Speaker 5: ground out himself and talks to people. It's not just
Speaker 5: the straight adaptation of the book. But this is all
Speaker 5: laid out plausibly, and I didn't feel like I was
Speaker 5: listening to the babblings of some crank telling me that, say,
Speaker 5: breast milk is better than vaccines and science. This stuff
Speaker 5: has lots of resonance in the present day, not specifically
Speaker 5: mc Eltra, but the way certain people can get their
Speaker 5: followers to become radicalized and do what you and I
Speaker 5: might consider to be the unthinkable. Based on my observation,
Speaker 5: people don't need to be coerced. Now. There's plenty of
Speaker 5: footage of Manson's family members then and later in their lives,
Speaker 5: and that stuff is chilling to me. True believers who
Speaker 5: don't blink when they talk to you. When they speak,
Speaker 5: it's in this patient, serene, even condescending voice while they're
Speaker 5: saying things that are utterly deranged more than a half
Speaker 5: century ago, but relevant now.
Speaker 2: Even if you don't have cable TV.
Speaker 5: I am not a conspiracy whack job, and you don't
Speaker 5: need to one hundred percent buy into everything you watch.
Speaker 5: But this chaos documentary on Netflix is is even more
Speaker 5: worth your time than a trip to buy a horse
Speaker 5: paste for your COVID MO.
Speaker 2: So it was compelling. It makes a compelling argument, is
Speaker 2: that fair to say?
Speaker 5: Very absorbing, and O'Neil himself admits some things where he
Speaker 5: doesn't have conclusive evidence. I think the thing raises more
Speaker 5: questions than it answers. But it's interesting stuff, and it's
Speaker 5: not just It's not like that UFO show with the
Speaker 5: guy with the wild hair. What is that Ancient Aliens? Yes,
Speaker 5: ancient alien I mean some of that stuff can be fun,
Speaker 5: but I think this is serious and it's extraordinarily well crafted,
Speaker 5: well put together.
Speaker 2: In fact, I'm going to take you up on that
Speaker 2: and I'm going to watch it this weekend on a
Speaker 2: strength of your review and recommendation.
Speaker 5: You got to tell me what you think of it.
Speaker 5: I'm really curious to see people's reactions. It doesn't have raves.
Speaker 5: The last time I looked on Rotten Tomatoes, it was
Speaker 5: somewhere down around to sixty five, And I just don't
Speaker 5: understand that.
Speaker 2: Possibly because you and I are old enough to kind
Speaker 2: of remember the evolution of the whole Manson saga. Even
Speaker 2: though it happened right around when we were born, Manson
Speaker 2: was still a resonant figure in popular culture for a
Speaker 2: long time after that.
Speaker 5: It was a major pop culture touchstone, and so was
Speaker 5: Helter Skelter Yes, and the Beatles album that Manson got
Speaker 5: that from. He was a huge Beatles fan. The whole
Speaker 5: thing is really interesting, and one of the people was
Speaker 5: I believe Doris Day's sun interesting rabbit hole to go down.
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