WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.240 --> 00:00:08.039 Today, I want to welcome Al Santa Riga. He has 2 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:12.400 over fifty years experience in all aspects of the paranormal. 3 00:00:12.919 --> 00:00:15.839 He is a sensitive, intuitive and all. 4 00:00:15.759 --> 00:00:23.320 The clayers as well as an investigator, experiencer, researcher, and cryptozoologist. 5 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:28.079 He is founder of several paranormal societies as well as 6 00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:33.560 he is an ex podcaster and MOFON member. Al welcome, 7 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:34.359 How you doing. 8 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:38.280 I'm doing fine, Chris, how you doing? Thank you for 9 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:38.960 inviting me on? 10 00:00:39.399 --> 00:00:42.000 Yeah, thank you for coming on. I can't complain. I 11 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:45.039 can't complain. This is gonna be fun. You've had a 12 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:51.600 lifetime of paranormal experiences, from psychic and intuitive awareness to 13 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:57.600 UFOs and crypto terrestrials. You're also a paranormal investigator that 14 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:03.079 has an understanding based off of personal experiences. So we'll 15 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:07.120 probably jump into a few different paranormal rabbit holes today, 16 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:09.760 but before we do, this is your first time on, 17 00:01:09.920 --> 00:01:13.040 tell us a little bit more about yourself, your background, 18 00:01:13.120 --> 00:01:15.000 and how everything started for you. 19 00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:21.040 Okay, my mom is my mom was a psychic. My 20 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:23.879 brother it was like one of the first parapsychologists in 21 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:27.640 the United States worked with Han Holtzer's right hand man, 22 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:31.680 for years and his psychic Ethol I think her name was. 23 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:35.680 My aunt was a white witch. My cousin was a 24 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:37.920 white witch. I had a cousin who was a black witch. 25 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:42.760 So the paranormal just kind of runs in my family 26 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:46.000 with I thought was normal growing up. My friends said 27 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:49.200 it wasn't quite normal to them, you know, But to 28 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:52.280 me and my family and my cousins and everybody, it 29 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:55.719 was normal to like sleep over cousin's house and have 30 00:01:55.840 --> 00:02:00.120 my uncles and my aunts doing seances and stuff like 31 00:01:59.959 --> 00:02:02.200 that in the in the dining room and stuff. You know, 32 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:05.280 when we were younger, we'd sneak out and down the 33 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:08.479 hall and hide and the shadows watching them and stuff 34 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:13.199 like that. And uh, you know, just always into uh 35 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:15.879 when I was in school and every Friday we'd have 36 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:18.199 to go and rent get a book out of a library, 37 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:24.159 was always ghost, bigfoot, lockanus, monster, stuff like that. I 38 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:27.240 couldn't get enough of that stuff growing up. And uh, 39 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:30.879 you know, just always have been intuitive, you know, always 40 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:33.439 kind of I call it gut feelings. Always had gut 41 00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:36.080 feelings all my life. I always knew when something was 42 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:39.719 about to go south somewhere, and UH was able to 43 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:43.319 get out of dodge before you know, for anything bad happened. 44 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:45.800 But uh, you know, working. 45 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:48.360 In the paranormal and in all the fields that I 46 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:55.520 do between you have eufology, cryptozoology and the ghost, ghost 47 00:02:55.680 --> 00:02:56.639 investigation and. 48 00:02:56.599 --> 00:03:00.199 Stuff, you get sensitive to energies Over the years. The 49 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:02.360 more you do it, the more sensitive you get to 50 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:06.719 different kinds of energies. And you know, you start feeling 51 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:10.879 different energies differently. Some energies affect me. I'll get like 52 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:14.240 a pressure in my forehead or temples. Some will give 53 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:17.000 me a metallic taste in my mouth. Some will make 54 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:20.879 my fingertips tingle, you know, just stuff like that. I 55 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:22.560 get a little voice in the back of my head 56 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:25.199 will tell me, you know, go left, don't go right, 57 00:03:25.319 --> 00:03:28.560 stuff like that, you know what I mean. So, you know, 58 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:32.159 it's just sense. The longer you do it, the more 59 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:34.680 sensitive you get to it. Not that I claim to 60 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:38.960 be psychic by any stretching imagination, but I just do 61 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:43.960 things that are considered psychic abilities. But I don't have 62 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:47.080 the ability to just do it at will, you know 63 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:49.759 what I mean. It's got to come naturally to me. 64 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:52.599 I was on an investigation with John Zapf. It's not 65 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:56.039 too long ago, and we were down in the basement. 66 00:03:56.479 --> 00:04:00.280 It's this really old seventeen hundred building, and I felt 67 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:02.159 like I was on a boat and I was rocking, 68 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:05.039 you know, and it was weird, and nobody else was 69 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:09.080 feeling it until the other teams. Psychic came down and 70 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:11.439 she was like, you guys, feel like it's like we're 71 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:13.280 on a boat. And I was like, yeah, I felt that. 72 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:18.360 And then at one point I like to go away 73 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:20.439 from the crowd. When everybody's in one room, I like 74 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:23.480 to go somewhere else. And at one point everybody had 75 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:25.839 left the basement. The basement was like really the highest 76 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:28.680 activity part of the house, and I was sitting down 77 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:30.759 there and again I don't know why I do this, 78 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:34.959 but something in my head said, touch the foundation was rock. 79 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:39.839 It was old rock foundation. And then the voice again said, 80 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:42.959 touched the door, which was like four inches s thick 81 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:45.399 old door. And I was just touching the door and 82 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:48.879 touching the foundation, and I got the image of the 83 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:53.040 underground railroad in my head, you know. And at that point, 84 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:56.199 everybody was upstairs in the living room, you know, sharing notes, 85 00:04:56.240 --> 00:04:59.360 because there was like three different teams there, including John's assis, 86 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:02.920 and everybody was sharing notes, and I went upstairs and 87 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:06.040 I asked a historian on one of the teams any 88 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:08.639 history about this building being used to on the ground 89 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:11.519 railroad and she said, no, you know a couple of 90 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:14.120 buildings in the area, yes, but not this one. And 91 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:16.560 the team psychic turned to me and said, why did 92 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:19.079 you ask that? And I was like, and I told 93 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:22.000 her what I did downstairs, and she said, I felt 94 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:25.720 the same thing you felt downstairs. Out I felt the ocean. 95 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:28.319 She and when you weren't down there, I did the 96 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:30.759 same thing you did. I touched the stone wall, you know, 97 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:33.680 the stone tape theory, you know, And I touched the 98 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:36.160 door and I seen the same exact thing you did. 99 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:38.680 So I don't know if we're both seeing images from 100 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:42.079 buildings across the street or if this building was actually 101 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:44.639 used as another ground river road, But it was just 102 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:49.399 funny how we were sharing notes and everything was like coinciding. 103 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:52.920 What their team psychic was doing and what I was 104 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:55.360 picking up was just pretty interesting, you know. 105 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:59.639 So imagine from an early age, after you were aware 106 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:01.959 that you had some of these abilities, you had the 107 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:06.279 sort of family that would help nurture these abilities instead 108 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:08.279 of tell you that you're crazy or something like that. 109 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:13.279 Right. Well, I come from a very big Italian family, 110 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:17.240 and the way my family shows love is by breaking 111 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:20.839 your bulls, okay, and the more they break you bulls, 112 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:23.680 it means the more they love you. My brother got 113 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:29.879 his balls broken endlessly, endlessly. Now, my brother graduated college 114 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:32.800 with a you know, master's degree in finance, so he 115 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:35.639 was a money guy, you know. But he also got 116 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:38.360 his he had flew out to California to get his 117 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:41.600 parapsychology degree when it first came out, you know, when 118 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:44.480 it first got here from the UK, I believe it 119 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:48.040 came from. And when he got back from California, my 120 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:50.399 uncles and my cousins are like, yeah, you're gonna make 121 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:52.879 a lot of money with that degree. Good thing you 122 00:06:52.959 --> 00:06:54.800 went to school for that, you know, And they just 123 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:59.240 wrote him endlessly, you know. But he just took it 124 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:01.600 with a grain of salt and he laughed and just 125 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:03.560 did what he did, you know. And like I said, 126 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:06.680 it's it's I've got a lot of family members that 127 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:10.560 are psychic. They have psychic ability, especially the one that 128 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:13.519 runs in the line with my aunt, the White Witch. 129 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:19.160 Her daughter and her daughter's daughter are all have psychic ability. 130 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:23.519 But they're basically petrified to use any of it. They 131 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:24.959 don't want nothing to do with it. You know. I 132 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:28.879 got one cousin. No matter where she lives, her house 133 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:31.639 just goes crazy, you know. And no matter how many 134 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:34.040 times to go down there and cleanse it and seal 135 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:36.839 it and everything, it's just her ability that you know, 136 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:41.120 Eventually that seal wears down, and once that wears down, 137 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:44.319 you know, everything just comes to because she's a beacon, 138 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:48.639 you know, and she just constantly has stuff going on 139 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:50.800 in her house. And I keep telling her, listen, if 140 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:53.240 you want to, you can't outrun this stuff. Man, you 141 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:56.000 have to. If you want to live with this stuff, 142 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:58.600 you have to. And you don't want to associate with it, 143 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:01.720 because she gets some crazy your stuff on her video 144 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:05.279 in her security camera in the house and outside the house, 145 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:07.839 you know. And I told her, if you really want to, 146 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:11.120 once I seal it and we and we seal the property, 147 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:13.519 you have to stay on top of that like once 148 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:17.040 a month to keep that because these things see your light. 149 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:19.759 You're a beacon. They're gonna try to get in. You're 150 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:22.040 gonna constantly be trying to get in. And as soon 151 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:25.839 as that that seal fades boom, your house is going 152 00:08:25.920 --> 00:08:29.279 to get infested again. And she just moved at their time, 153 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:32.600 you know. So I was just at her new house today, 154 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:35.919 you know, doing some cleansing and ceiling before she even 155 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:40.080 moves in, you know. Yeah, but uh yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. 156 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:44.360 Well, let's get into some of the most profound experiences 157 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:48.679 for you, either growing up or more recent, something that 158 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:51.960 really sticks out for you, either in the paranormal or 159 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:53.840 or crypto terrestrial realms. 160 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:59.000 Oh, I mean, you know, where do I start? You 161 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:02.960 know what I mean, I've I've seen the thing that 162 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:06.039 I called, you know, I called the Green Goblin because 163 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:08.320 it looked like the Green Goblin to me from the 164 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:11.799 Spider Man movie from the nineties with William Dafoe in it. 165 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:16.320 You know, talk to my brother about it. He kind 166 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:20.559 of thought it was either a reptilian or an insectoid creature. 167 00:09:21.159 --> 00:09:23.639 And even though it did kind of look like a 168 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:27.120 reptilian had an alligator stomach and it was green and 169 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:32.000 had our alligator feet, it was more exoskeleton on the outside, 170 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:34.000 like an ant you know. So I don't know if 171 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:36.240 it was a hybrid or what it was, but that 172 00:09:36.440 --> 00:09:37.320 was pretty crazy. 173 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:40.759 How did it appear to you what happened during that experience? 174 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:45.399 You want me to get into that experience? Sure, but okay, 175 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:49.200 I was I was a maleman for thirty two years 176 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:52.559 and I was working. I was working in Yonkers, New York, 177 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:55.240 and I was working in the north North Yonkers and 178 00:09:55.279 --> 00:09:58.039 it was a really high end area of town. I mean, 179 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:01.200 the mayor lived there, the police commissioner to live there. 180 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:05.600 I mean it was just very, very high end. And 181 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:08.360 the regular carrier got hurt and asked me if I 182 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:10.279 wanted to take hold his route down to the care. 183 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:11.440 I knew he was going to be out for like 184 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:13.440 a year, so I was like, yeah, I'll hold this 185 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:16.440 route down. This is cake, you know, basically was all 186 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:20.240 buildings except for maybe thirty houses that ran along an 187 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:24.000 aqueduct that ran water from the Catskills down to New 188 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:27.200 York City, which was just you know, maybe a mile 189 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:29.480 a couple of miles long. It wasn't that long of 190 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:32.960 uh wooded area, you know. So I was doing the 191 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:37.600 route and one day I'm walking. I finished it at 192 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:39.000 the end of the route, and I used to park 193 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:41.240 my car at the beginning of the aqueduct because the 194 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:43.840 first building was like right across the street. And it 195 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:47.240 was always parking on either side of the street in 196 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:49.840 front of the aqueduct. It was like it was weird. 197 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:53.240 Nobody would park where this aqueduct would cross the street. 198 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:56.960 So I said, I'll park here, you know. And I 199 00:10:57.080 --> 00:10:58.919 so one day I finished the route and I'm walking. 200 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:01.200 I'm taking the aqueduct back to my car, because it's 201 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:03.399 a shortcut. If I take the aqueduct, it's a mile. 202 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:05.919 If I take the road, it's two miles, you know 203 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:08.919 what I mean. So I'm taking the aqueduct back to 204 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:14.399 my car. And as I'm walking, I'm noticing that all 205 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:18.600 the private houses have like these ten foot fences, and 206 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:21.679 all the private houses have these like killer guard dogs, 207 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:25.559 you know, Wiless pimples, German shepherds, Golbman pinchers, just like 208 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:29.240 all these crazy dogs. And the dogs are all going crazy. 209 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:32.200 Every time I walk past us, another dog would run 210 00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:35.440 up to the fence and go absolutely ballistic. And as 211 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:39.240 I was walking back, before I got to the private homes, 212 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:41.879 and I was still in the condominium comp there was 213 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:45.360 like three giant condominiums that faced the apple, I felt 214 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:48.240 like something was following me, you know, I just got 215 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:50.879 the feeling that something was following me, and I would 216 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:54.240 turn around and wouldn't see anything, and I would walk 217 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:57.120 some more, and man, I just felt like something. The 218 00:11:57.240 --> 00:12:01.039 energy was just like all over me. So I turned 219 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:04.720 around and I pulled at Houston Kyri two cans of 220 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:06.759 dog spray, one on each side of the bag. I 221 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:09.919 pulled both cans off the bag and I ran to 222 00:12:10.080 --> 00:12:13.799 the area where I felt this energy was and it 223 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.559 was in the bushes, like the woods, and I just 224 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.200 turned those trees from green to red, you know. And 225 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:22.799 I said, if there's anything here and it leaves, I'll 226 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:24.399 be able to see it because I just sprayed all 227 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:27.759 these bushes down. But nothing moved. So I was like, okay. 228 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:29.840 So as I'm walking and I start to get to 229 00:12:29.879 --> 00:12:32.960 the houses with these giant fences and these killer dogs, 230 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:35.000 the dogs are all running up to the fence and 231 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:37.480 going crazy. And I don't know if they're running up 232 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:40.080 to me because i'm the mail, you know what I mean, 233 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:43.080 or if there's they see what's following me and they're 234 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:45.840 going nuts, you know. Anyway, I get to my car 235 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:51.120 and I would do the one first building with across 236 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:52.960 the street. I did this one building that had a 237 00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:55.320 west end and niest End. It was a really big 238 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:59.919 building again, high end building. Judges like Supreme Court judges. 239 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:02.440 We lived in it, you know what I mean. And 240 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:05.399 right across the street there wasn't actually an ex NFL 241 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:08.440 football play guy used to play for the Jets. So 242 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:11.600 every day when I would go there, we we talk football, 243 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:14.039 you know, and we talked football. And I said to 244 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:16.240 him one day, I said, what's the deal with all 245 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:19.720 these you know, ten foot fences and killer guard dogs, 246 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:22.240 you know? And he goes, you know what he goes. 247 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:24.639 When I first moved in here, years and years and 248 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:28.440 years ago, he said, my wife got up one night 249 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:31.240 to use the bathroom, and at that time, we didn't 250 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:33.919 have any dog. The kids were small. He said, we 251 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:36.480 didn't have any dogs, and the fence was only like 252 00:13:36.519 --> 00:13:38.600 a four foot fence, you know, because like I said, 253 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:40.759 it's a very high end neighborhod there's not a lot 254 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:41.759 of prime there, you know. 255 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:45.879 And she was in the bathroom washing her hands after 256 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:47.799 she used the bathroom, and she looked out the windows 257 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:49.759 and she's seeing it look like a five or six 258 00:13:49.759 --> 00:13:52.480 foot tall guy jump over the fence and come towards 259 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:53.279 our back door. 260 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:56.000 So she come woke me up and this guy's like 261 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:00.360 six foot seven, three hundred and fifty pounds. He's a monster, right, 262 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:02.679 and she goes he wakes me up and says someone 263 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:05.240 at the back door. So he grabs a baseball bat 264 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:07.360 to go down, and she was at the back door. 265 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:10.480 She's on the phone with the cops calling nine one one. Now, 266 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:14.399 this particular neighborhood, there was always two cop cars parked 267 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:16.879 on this neighborhood, one at the south end and one 268 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:20.559 at the north end. And she's calling the cops and 269 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:22.240 the cops are like, okay, we'll send the car. We 270 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:24.240 got a car a unit in the area. We'll send 271 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:27.480 the unit there. It's probably just a prowler, don't worry 272 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:31.240 about it. This guy opens he hears scratching at his 273 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:32.879 back door. He had a wooden back door, and he 274 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:35.759 hears scratching at the back door. He opens up the 275 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:39.159 door and he grabs his baseball bat to whack this guy, 276 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:43.279 thinking there's somebody trying to uh break in, and he 277 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:48.159 sees this creature standing there looking at him, you know, 278 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:51.879 and he's like shocked, and the creature is shocked because 279 00:14:51.879 --> 00:14:54.320 this guy is so big too, you know, And the 280 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:58.679 creature takes off running and the cops come there and 281 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:02.080 they tell the He tells the cops, you know, my 282 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:03.840 wife's seen it jump over the fence. I've seen it 283 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:06.600 run back out and jump over the fence. YadA, YadA, YadA. 284 00:15:06.840 --> 00:15:10.039 And the cops, oh, what you've seen was just some 285 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:13.240 some prowler in a halloween costume, you know. He was like, 286 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:15.960 what I seen wasn't you know, no prowler in a 287 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:18.799 Halloween He wasn't no kid trying to break into my house. 288 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:23.120 This was this wasn't human, you know. And they can say, no, no, no, 289 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:25.960 you just seen a prowler. You know, this is what 290 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:28.559 we recommend. So all the all the people in this 291 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:33.679 neighborhood get yourself a steel door, and buy yourself a dog, 292 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:37.720 and raise the fence like another five feet, make it 293 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:41.120 a ten foot fence. So he's like okay. So then 294 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:42.919 he started talking to his neighbors and they all told 295 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:45.519 they gave him the scoop that there's this creature living 296 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:48.360 in the woods, and so everybody had the dog. And 297 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:51.919 then so he tells me the story and I'm like, yeah, 298 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:54.200 you know, I'm not sure if this guy's pulling my 299 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:57.399 leg or not. You know what I mean really wasn't 300 00:15:57.440 --> 00:15:59.080 sure because he was a fun guy, and I wasn't 301 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:02.799 really sure. I started talking to all the other neighbors 302 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:06.320 and on Saturday, everybody was out cutting the grass, you know, 303 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:10.639 doing yard work and stuff, long work. And there was 304 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:14.360 one woman, is older woman, heavy set, black woman. She 305 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:17.679 ran like a halfway house for abused women, so she 306 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:21.279 had and then to get to the front door from 307 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:24.159 the sidewalk was like one hundred steps up on every 308 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:26.120 single one of these houses, okay. 309 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:27.039 And. 310 00:16:28.600 --> 00:16:31.320 So I help her up with her groceries one day 311 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:34.360 and we become really good friends. We start talking and 312 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:37.000 she's got iced tea for me and lemonade in the 313 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:39.320 summer and coffee and hot chalk in the winter. And 314 00:16:39.559 --> 00:16:42.320 we started talking about this, you know, and she had 315 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:46.039 an old pit bull that was scarred up, unbelievable, just 316 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:49.559 like Mould. And I said, what happened to you dog, 317 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:52.120 you know? And she's like, let me tell your story. 318 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:55.879 And so she tells me the story how in the beginning, 319 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:58.240 when she the dog was young, she had a wooden 320 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:03.039 back door, small fence. Something jumped over the fence. Everybody 321 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:04.920 was in bed, all the girls were in bed, the 322 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:09.599 ladies in the house and something started clawing its way 323 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:13.079 through her doors, and the dog ran down to protect 324 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:15.480 the house and started fighting with this thing, and this 325 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:19.559 thing mauled the dog, just mauled them, you know, and 326 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:22.359 she called the cops. The cops came, the thing ran away. 327 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:26.119 Cops took the dog to an amb hospital, saved the dog. 328 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:28.839 And now she's got two pimples, the old one and 329 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:31.279 a younger one, you know. But the dog kind of 330 00:17:31.319 --> 00:17:34.359 saved everybody. And she said, I don't know what it was. 331 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:37.039 She goes, but we had to change the door to 332 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:39.519 a steel door. But the crazy thing about it is 333 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:44.920 these people all have windows in their kitchens and the 334 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:47.440 window pane is like an eighth of an inch stick, 335 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:51.440 and this thing never thought to break the glass to 336 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:55.039 get it. It was always clawing at the doors. So 337 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:56.839 I didn'tink it. Whatever it was to me, I didn't 338 00:17:56.839 --> 00:17:59.599 feel like it was that intelligent. So it was a 339 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:03.039 time goes by. I'm taking the aqueduct, and you know, 340 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:06.559 sometimes I feel it, sometimes they don't. I'm not worried 341 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:10.200 about it, because you know, I'm I can handle myself. 342 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:13.440 I'm a pretty good, pretty big guy, and the martial 343 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:16.119 arts my whole life. I have plenty. I got plenty 344 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:20.400 of confidence in my ability to defend myself. And so 345 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:25.079 one day, I know, I started noticing that the buildings, 346 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:28.039 all the condos that face the Hudson River, nobody moved 347 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:30.279 in or at it. Once they moved in, everybody stayed there. 348 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:34.480 But the condos that faced the aqueduct, people were constantly leaving, 349 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:37.799 coming and going. And I couldn't understand for such a 350 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:41.400 high end area neighborhood, such beautiful buildings. I mean, these 351 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:44.039 buildings were gorgeous. They had pools on the roof in 352 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:47.319 the whole nine yards, you know. And so I couldn't 353 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:50.119 nderstand why everybody was leaving. So I started talking to 354 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:52.480 one of the maintenance guys. I said, Hey, what's the 355 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:55.400 deal with this building? Why has everybody moved so much? 356 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:58.160 You know? And he said, oh, because of the troop 357 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:00.920 of cabre you called it a troop of cover schopercaboves 358 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:04.720 in the woods and at night it sits on the aqueduct. 359 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:09.400 It literally climbs up these people's uh fire scat fire 360 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:12.519 escapes patios. The patios were all made out of wood. 361 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:15.559 It would climb up on the patios, take lawn furniture, 362 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:18.160 put it on the act with the and sit there 363 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:19.960 and stare at the building like how it's trying to 364 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:22.039 figure out how to get in. And he said the 365 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:25.279 troop of combo would freak everybody out, you know. He 366 00:19:25.319 --> 00:19:27.920 said one day he was up on the roof at 367 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:30.799 the north end of the pool checking the pH level 368 00:19:30.839 --> 00:19:35.559 on the pool when something came out of the south end. 369 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:38.680 He didn't see it was invisible, but he said when 370 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:40.799 it walked to the edge of the building, it left 371 00:19:40.880 --> 00:19:44.000 tracks like an alligator. And he said, I don't know 372 00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:48.119 if it jumped off the roof and onto the the 373 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:50.720 witch you were called the woods into the woods, or 374 00:19:50.759 --> 00:19:53.079 if it climbed down the side of the roof. But 375 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:54.759 we used to we had to go in, he said. 376 00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:57.680 Told me, Yah had to go into everybody's patios and 377 00:19:57.759 --> 00:20:00.680 change all the doors to steal doors, like steel rim 378 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:03.480 doors because the origin they were all wood. Everything matched 379 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:06.319 the building, you know. And he said, we had to 380 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:08.960 change everything. And he says, yeah, the chup of carboloves 381 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:13.119 in the woods freaks everybody out. So winter comes and 382 00:20:13.480 --> 00:20:16.039 gets darker earlier. And these buildings are at the end 383 00:20:16.039 --> 00:20:19.440 of the route. The way these buildings were set up. 384 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:24.319 There are two buildings were connected by a breezeway on 385 00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:26.880 the back end. You'd have to take the elevator up 386 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:29.519 to each floor to deliver the mail. Each floor had 387 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:33.359 its own mailbox, okay, like set of mailboxes for that floor, 388 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:35.680 and then there was a breezeway. I got a second 389 00:20:35.680 --> 00:20:38.279 floor that went over to the other building, but that 390 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:40.599 building had the mailboxes in the lobby, so he went 391 00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:45.200 downstairs with the mail. So I'm on the I'm delivering 392 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:47.039 the mail in the mailbox, and it's you know, late 393 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:50.000 around four o'clock in the afternoon in the winter, and 394 00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:52.519 I noticed that the women are coming home with the 395 00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:55.440 kids from school and the school buses and dropping and 396 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:57.440 the kids. As soon as they get off the elevator, 397 00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:00.519 they turn and they run to their doors like they're 398 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:03.240 not wasting any time getting into the building. And the 399 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:05.319 same thing with the ladies. The ladies are getting out 400 00:21:05.319 --> 00:21:08.480 of the elevator, they're not even looking towards it. They're 401 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:11.559 just making a bee line to their apartments. And I'm like, man, 402 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:14.839 this is crazy. I can't believe what's going on here, 403 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:20.079 you know. So one time I'm sitting there and I'm 404 00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:22.039 putting the mail in the box, and I feel like 405 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:25.359 something is looking at me. So I turn around and 406 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:27.559 I walk over to the breezeway and the breezeway wasn't 407 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:31.160 closed in. It was an open breezeway which overlooked the courtyard, 408 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:33.960 which was a beautiful courtyard where they had barbecues and stuff. 409 00:21:34.359 --> 00:21:36.480 And it was like an a foot retaining wall holding 410 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:40.839 the aqueduct back. And I'm looking down at the aqueduct 411 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:43.799 and I'm saying, I know you're out there. I can 412 00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:47.519 feel you looking at me. I know you're there. I said, 413 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:51.839 you can't intimidate me. I said, show yourself, you know, 414 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:55.240 not really expecting like talking to the wind. Right in 415 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:58.440 my head. I'm doing this like telepathically, right because I 416 00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:00.880 don't want anybody to hear because and I'm crazy, you know, 417 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:07.039 crazy bailment, so so not thinking anything was gonna happen. 418 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:11.440 When I seen two yellow, yellowish green eyes flash boom 419 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:15.880 like here I am. And I was like, oh, okay, 420 00:22:16.039 --> 00:22:18.599 there you go, and now now I see you. And 421 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:20.640 I said to him, said I'm going nowhere. I'll be 422 00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:23.960 right down. So I went down and I went into 423 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:28.279 the courtyard and I'm looking up at the retaining wall. Again, 424 00:22:28.440 --> 00:22:31.759 I can't see anything. It's invisible to me. And I said, 425 00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:34.079 you know what, let me stand up on the on 426 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:37.039 the picnic tables. Give myself a little bit of height 427 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:39.839 because this thing's on an a foot wall. It's towering 428 00:22:39.880 --> 00:22:41.920 over me, you know. So I got up on the 429 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:44.920 retaining up on the on the picnic table and say, okay, 430 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:47.519 I'm here, now, show me show me who you are, 431 00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:50.759 show me what you are. And it materialized in front 432 00:22:50.759 --> 00:22:55.359 of me and it was this green exoskeleton looking thing 433 00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:58.000 that looked like the Green Goblin to me, but it's 434 00:22:58.079 --> 00:23:02.000 belly was like almost white, like an alligator, and it 435 00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:05.039 had alligator feet and hands. And I looked at it 436 00:23:05.079 --> 00:23:08.200 and I was like, what the F is this thing? 437 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:11.119 What am I looking at? You know? You know, and 438 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:13.759 the dog came to my head. Is an alien? 439 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:16.519 But you said it had sort of like an insect 440 00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:17.160 orid head. 441 00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:20.359 Yeah, it had an if you ever looked at the 442 00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:23.319 old green Goblin from the Old Spider Man movies had 443 00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:27.960 that kind of head, you know. And I'm looking at 444 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:30.440 it and I'm thinking it's an alien, and I'm saying, no, 445 00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:34.920 doesn't feel like alien to me. It felt like to 446 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:38.119 me that it was a cave dweller, that it lived 447 00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:42.400 in caves, and these particular woods had a lot of 448 00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:46.160 caves in there, because back in the old days, when 449 00:23:46.599 --> 00:23:49.119 the rich people from who worked in Manhattan built these 450 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:54.519 giant mansions overlooking the Hudson River, a lot of them 451 00:23:54.599 --> 00:23:58.359 had underground passages to the river and they would go 452 00:23:58.440 --> 00:24:00.480 down by boat, or they would have stuff brought up 453 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:03.279 by boat, and they used to run liquor that way too. 454 00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:06.279 So I know there's a lot of underground caverns in 455 00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:09.000 this area, and I'm like, to me, it felt like 456 00:24:09.039 --> 00:24:11.759 a caves dweller. And to me, it didn't feel like 457 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:14.920 it was alien like extra terrestrial, because I didn't get 458 00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:18.000 the sense that it was that intelligent. Because if you 459 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:20.920 were that intelligent, why didn't you just tap the window 460 00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:23.079 with one of your nails and break the window if 461 00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:26.119 you want to get in, get out. So I'm looking 462 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:28.440 at it, it's looking at me. It sides me up 463 00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:30.359 on the side, ended up, and I'm saying, Okay, now 464 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:34.359 I know what I'm dealing with, you know. So life 465 00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:38.200 goes on. I'm delivering the mail, and one day in 466 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:40.960 this first building that I delivered to the south end. 467 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:43.119 There was a judge who lived there and I used 468 00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:44.920 to talk to him all the time. Was a great guy, 469 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:49.079 and his daughter lived on the north end. Her actually 470 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:52.559 her apartment was on the first floor that faced the aqueduct, 471 00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:57.240 and all the buildings that face the aqueduct, the windows 472 00:24:57.240 --> 00:24:59.759 were all like caged off, almost like you were in 473 00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:03.079 fre isn't right. And I couldn't understand why they would 474 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:05.720 have these cages on these high end buildings, you know. 475 00:25:05.799 --> 00:25:08.400 Can't imagine people wanted to look out their window and 476 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:12.480 see these bars on their windows. So one night, she's 477 00:25:12.519 --> 00:25:15.279 just a young girl, she tells me the story one 478 00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:18.559 she comes in one day. She comes into the building 479 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:22.720 one day with this giant fill of German shepherd, right, 480 00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:25.839 and the dog is like going crazy, wanting to eat me. 481 00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:27.960 And she's like, I'll go to the other side of 482 00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:29.920 the building because I could barely hold them, you know, 483 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:32.640 And she got I'll bring him in the apartment. So 484 00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:34.920 she brought him in the apartment. I was like, what, what, 485 00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:36.720 when the hell did you get this dog, you know, 486 00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:38.759 and and she goes like, well, you don't know what 487 00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:40.319 happened to me. I said, well, what happened to you? 488 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:44.720 She said, young girl, good looking girl, worked in Manhattan. 489 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:47.240 She was a lawyer too. I drove a nice like 490 00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.680 portion and stuff, she said. One night, I came home 491 00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:51.519 from work and there was no place to park but 492 00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:53.559 in front of the act with us. So I parked 493 00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:55.960 in front of the act with us. And when I 494 00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:59.079 got out of my car, I felt like there was 495 00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:00.960 something on the act with looking at me, but I 496 00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:03.240 couldn't see it. She said. Then all of a sudden, 497 00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:06.640 I heard footsteps running towards me, but I couldn't see 498 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:09.160 what was coming towards me. So she took off running 499 00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:11.079 to her building, which was only across the street. And 500 00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:16.079 this particular building had a wooden foyer door for the foyer, 501 00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:18.799 it was really a big, heavy door, you know, like 502 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:21.559 three inches thick, and then it had glass doors to 503 00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:24.319 get into the lobby. And she said, I made it 504 00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:30.559 to the foyer when this thing hit the door boom 505 00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.559 ran into the door, sent her flying. She got back 506 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:35.880 up to close the door, she said, and she's seen 507 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:38.920 like these green claws coming in the door trying to 508 00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:41.519 push it. So I opened so she took out her mace. 509 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:44.200 Because she lived in the city, she carried mace and 510 00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:47.000 she sprayed the thing down, which gave her enough time 511 00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:50.119 to get the lobby door unlocked and in and ever 512 00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:54.279 since then she went out, and so she called her father, 513 00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:59.000 told her father what had just happened. This creature, I 514 00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:02.319 guess it got her. It ran around the side of 515 00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:05.599 the building and was trying to pull the bars off 516 00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:09.319 of her bedroom window. And she called her father, and 517 00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:12.119 her father came down. And father came down with his 518 00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:15.400 three point fifty seven and he just started shooting through 519 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.559 the through the window at this creature, you know, and 520 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:21.599 he led off like six rounds. And of course, you know, 521 00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:23.799 the cops come and everything, because you know, New York 522 00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:26.519 is like impossible to get a gun in and here's 523 00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:29.440 a guy shooting in an apartment out the window, you know. 524 00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.519 So the cops come, and of course he's a he's 525 00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:35.759 a judge. Everything gets pushed shoved under the rug. Nobody 526 00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:40.240 knows anything about it. And her father got her gun. 527 00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:42.559 Her father got her gun permit as well, and he 528 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:44.559 told her to get a dog and take the dog 529 00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:46.839 everywhere she goes with her. This way she doesn't have 530 00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:50.640 to walk at night by herself, you know. And so 531 00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:53.440 I'm hearing these stories and it's just like all this 532 00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:56.960 stuff is going on, and I'm like, I said, I'm 533 00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:00.000 delivering this route for a year, and I'm walking back 534 00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:03.960 from the very lest the very less condo build them 535 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:07.119 when I finished that. When I finished that delivery, I 536 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:10.240 never walked back the street, and I always took the aqueduct. 537 00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:14.000 And then at one point something changed, like the energy 538 00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:17.720 changed on the aqueduct and they got really like dark. 539 00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:21.160 I felt like, you know what, this is not a 540 00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:23.319 good idea to do anymore. You know, like that little 541 00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:25.880 voice in my head said, you know what you should 542 00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:28.920 do now? You should drive to these buildings where your 543 00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:31.799 car and deliver the bail out of your car. This way, 544 00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:33.839 you all you have to do is jumping you park 545 00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:36.000 in the parking lot and jumping the car and you 546 00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:38.960 so you don't have to take the aqueduct anymore. And 547 00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:43.240 once because even though it was a short route like 548 00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:46.079 distance wise, it had so many buildings and it got 549 00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:48.359 so much mail that you would be out there for 550 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:51.640 like eight hours just delivering packages and mail and stuff. 551 00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:54.039 So you know, in the winter time, if I'm getting 552 00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:57.559 done five six o'clock at night, it's pitch black, you know, 553 00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:02.240 And I'm like yeah, not walking that aqueduct and pitch black, 554 00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:05.559 you know what I mean. So I started working out 555 00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:08.799 of my car and that was just you know, like 556 00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:10.519 I said, and that was a creepy thing. And I 557 00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:13.119 called my brother and I said, dude, you're not gonna 558 00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:15.880 believe what I see. You know, I can't. And I 559 00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:18.960 described it as the green Goblin. It's like, please, don't 560 00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:21.480 ever tell anybody the green Goblin. They gotta think you're 561 00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:24.559 an idiot, you know. He said, if anything sounds like 562 00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:29.519 a hybrid between a reptilian and insectoid creature, you know. 563 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:32.319 And I was like, look, I don't know what the 564 00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:35.559 hell it was. It definitely was not a chuope of cabra, 565 00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:39.279 you know. And I don't really believe that it's alien 566 00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:44.920 from outer space. I think it's something that lives in 567 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.279 caves and lives here. You know. It may have came 568 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:52.440 from a different dimension or a different you know, universe 569 00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:55.319 at one point, but now it's definitely here, you know. 570 00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:59.759 Well, one of the common themes with even encryptid creatures 571 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:07.119 possibly extraterrestrials, unknown species of beings that have this common 572 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:10.400 ability to be able to phase in and out of 573 00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:13.880 our reality or alter our perception to where we can't 574 00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:18.000 see them or be able to take on this cloaking 575 00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:21.599 effect of some sort. This happens with I've hear of 576 00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:26.519 Bigfoot doing this, extra terrestrials, other cryptid beings, and even 577 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:30.720 the dog man creatures. What other types of creatures have 578 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.119 you encountered that are similar to that? 579 00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:40.240 Oh? Yeah, I mean I've I've had plenty of Bigfoot experiences. 580 00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:42.960 I've had a dog man come to my house, you 581 00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:45.720 know what I mean and kind of just tell me, like, 582 00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:47.920 you know, you know where I live? Now, I know 583 00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:49.559 where you live, you know what I mean. 584 00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:51.680 I would love to hear the dog man story because 585 00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:54.680 I've been interviewing a lot of witnesses for this. I'm 586 00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:57.559 in the middle of making a docu series that focuses 587 00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:01.079 on a lot of cryptid encounters in South Louis So 588 00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:03.759 I'd love to hear you encounter with this this creature. 589 00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:09.599 Okay, just quick, Mike. My theory on this invisibility cloak 590 00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:15.160 or whatever they do. Yeah, my theory is they're able 591 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:18.160 to change the spectrum of light they're in so we 592 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:22.079 can't see him. I don't think they disappear, I don't 593 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:25.079 think they go I mean they are invisible thoughts because 594 00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:27.440 we can't see them in whatever spectrum of light they're in. 595 00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:30.960 They would they raise their frequency or their vibration and 596 00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:33.759 they change the spectrum of light. I still think they're there, 597 00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:37.920 we just don't see them. Like with the green Goblin creature, 598 00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:41.519 I didn't see it, but I felt its energy, I 599 00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:43.880 felt its intention. You know, ive seen it. I felt 600 00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:46.480 like it was sizzing me up, you know, so I 601 00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:49.519 knew it was there. And uh, And I believe the 602 00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:51.839 same thing with the Bigfoots and the dog Man two. 603 00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:55.480 I think they have the ability to raise their frequency 604 00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:58.599 or vibration and change the spectrum of light they're in. 605 00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:01.839 I even think they're able to go in and out 606 00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:06.440 of different dimensions through different kind of portals stuff like that. 607 00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.680 But as far as the dog Man goes, we were 608 00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:14.920 on a we were on an investigation. Uh And I'll 609 00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:16.960 cut to the chase because it's a long story. But 610 00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:21.680 we were bluff charged. We were up on a high 611 00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:25.759 ridge overlooking a swamp to our east and a lake 612 00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:28.960 to our west, and we were up there just you know, 613 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:30.599 it was a hollowy. 614 00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:34.480 And it was approximate location. Was this what approximate location. 615 00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:38.000 New York, New York, New York. Yeah, we're in New 616 00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:42.119 York and it's Hollows Eve. There's a full moon, there's 617 00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:45.920 a meteor shower, and we're in a place of igh strangeness. 618 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:50.359 And so we we actually when we we we we 619 00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:53.240 captured some Morse codes coming out of the sky through 620 00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:57.039 a parabolic mic. We had all kinds of stuff happened 621 00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:00.599 paranormally after we did a couple of different ridguals that 622 00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.880 we do. But at one point we heard a sasquatch 623 00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:11.039 walk over to us. It wooped three times. We didn't 624 00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:13.960 we didn't know what. We thought that maybe it was 625 00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.920 telling other sasquatches in the area that there was three 626 00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:19.680 of us, That's why wooled three times. But I mean, 627 00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:23.559 the power of this woop it was had to be 628 00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:26.519 easily one hundred one hundred feet away, maybe a hundred 629 00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:29.000 fifty feet and the wolves just go right through you 630 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:32.799 and the ground shakes, and you know, the guys I 631 00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:35.400 were with never experienced it before, but I knew what 632 00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:38.720 I was dealing with. And so we got at one 633 00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:44.039 point this this bigfoot throws a rock the size of 634 00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:47.359 a bowling ball up over the top of the trees. 635 00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:52.160 Now just think of the trees are sixty feet long. Hi, 636 00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.680 We're on a ridge. It's like another thirty feet high. 637 00:33:56.160 --> 00:34:00.480 And it throws this giant boulder over the top of 638 00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:02.880 the trees. It comes down and lands right in between 639 00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:05.279 the three of us, the three of us sitting and 640 00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:08.360 you know, in a circle, a semi circle, and it 641 00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:10.719 rolls down and it hits by one of my guys, 642 00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.039 my partner, Brian's chair, and Brian's like, we should probably 643 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:18.480 leave now, you know, And I was like, no, not 644 00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:20.719 ready to leave. Bill wanted to leave after the woops. 645 00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:21.960 I was like, no, I'm not ready to leave. I 646 00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:24.159 feel like there's more to come. So we're sitting there, 647 00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:26.880 not that we knew that if there was anything in 648 00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:29.119 the swamp, because we didn't know about this, you know, 649 00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.719 because we weren't there for the swamp. But we found Originally, 650 00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:36.199 I found three giant quartz crystal boys set up in 651 00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.960 a pyramid shape, and the one on the top had 652 00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:42.360 almost like it was chiseled out, look like a face. 653 00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:46.079 So I said, this is going to be our location 654 00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:48.760 number one when we come on Halloween. And then we 655 00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:51.360 had two other locations picked out. We'll work our way 656 00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:53.960 back to the car. So anyway, we were there for 657 00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:57.480 like more paranormal than anything else. But I knew there 658 00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:01.480 were bigfoots in the area because I had reports and 659 00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:05.119 I've talked to locals in the area that we're at 660 00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:07.880 run out of the woods, you know, like hunting, the 661 00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:11.159 raccoon hunting and stuff like that. Coon hunting, they ran 662 00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:14.400 out of the woods by bigfoots. So anyway, we get 663 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:16.800 the rock thrown at us. Brian's ready to leave, Bill's 664 00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:19.159 ready to leave. I'm not ready to leave yet. And 665 00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:21.760 we're sitting there and there's a stone wall behind us, 666 00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.039 like a three foot high stone wall behind us. And 667 00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:27.840 these walls run all over the place here in the Northeast, Okay, 668 00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:31.039 and nobody knows who we actually made them. They call them, 669 00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:34.480 they call them markers, like property markers. But I'm not 670 00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:39.000 buying it. And so we're sitting there and we're talking 671 00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:44.159 amongst ourselves, and my camera got Bill is sitting next 672 00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.320 with his back to the wall, and we got three 673 00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:49.960 four different cameras pointed in each direction trying to kick 674 00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.519 up anything that comes near us, because we're hearing stuff 675 00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:54.719 all night long, but we're not seeing anything on any 676 00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:57.480 of the cameras. All of a sudden, we hear it 677 00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:01.159 sounds like a quadruped running up the ridge for the 678 00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:05.920 boom boom, and it's coming, man, it's coming, right. So 679 00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:09.599 I jump up, Brian jumps up, Bill jumps up, and 680 00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:13.760 Bill starts to run past me. And I'm focused on 681 00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:17.119 where the sound is coming from. I'm not taking my 682 00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:19.360 eyes off the sound. And as Bill gets to me, 683 00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:21.800 I reach out with my left hand and I just 684 00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:24.480 stop him dead and I spin him around and I say, 685 00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:28.920 stand your ground. We don't know what we're dealing with here. Honestly, 686 00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:31.079 I thought it was either a black bear charging us 687 00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:33.119 or a mountain lion. That's what I thought it was. 688 00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.039 And as I spin him around and says stand your ground, 689 00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:38.880 Brian and Bill are a little bit further behind me, said, 690 00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:41.519 they pull out their machetes. What we have on us 691 00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:45.440 are pepper spray, ten inch survival knives, eighteen inch machetes. 692 00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:47.800 They're able to pull out their machetes because they're in 693 00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:50.599 a more opened area. I'm closest to the wall in 694 00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:53.280 his tree lined so I pull out my survival knife 695 00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.440 because I don't have room to maneuver a machete, and 696 00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:59.320 I'm thinking, man, when this mountain lion hits this wall, 697 00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:02.280 I'm gonna I have to sacrifice my left arm and 698 00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:05.119 kill it with my survival knife. You know, That's what 699 00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:07.840 I'm thinking is going to happen. Because I don't know 700 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.119 what's coming up this ridge. I can't see it. I 701 00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:13.280 can only hear it. So the sound of this charging 702 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:18.239 quadruped gets right up in front of us Anioza and 703 00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:22.039 stops dead. Now we're all standing You could have heard 704 00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:24.320 a pin drop in the woods that night. And we're 705 00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:27.760 standing there listening, and I have this little sawny camera 706 00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.599 hanging around my neck, digital camera, and I take one 707 00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:36.440 picture where I feel it stopped, okay, and then I 708 00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:40.159 say to the guys, let's go over the wall. Get 709 00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:42.239 our camera, see what's on the side of the wall. 710 00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:44.280 So we jump over the wall with all our cameras. 711 00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:47.280 We point them every which direction. We never heard anything leave, 712 00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:50.320 We never heard anything jump off the ridge, we never 713 00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:53.840 heard anything run back down the ridge. Just it was 714 00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:56.800 just dead, silent. I didn't see anything on my little 715 00:37:56.840 --> 00:37:58.719 camera because the back of it so small, I couldn't 716 00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:02.679 see anything in the pitch black anyway, And so Bill go, 717 00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:05.400 we jump over the wall. Bill's got a fifteen hundred luma. 718 00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:08.000 We light up the woods like it's daytime, and there's 719 00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:13.559 nothing there. Okay. A couple of months later, I'm being 720 00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:17.719 drawn back to the woods, not so much the ridge 721 00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:21.159 that we were on, but the swamp below it. I 722 00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:23.559 don't know why I'm being drawn back to the swamp, 723 00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:26.599 but I'm being drawn back to the swamp. So I 724 00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:28.559 called Bill and I called Brian. I said, listen, I'm 725 00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.920 going If you guys don't want to come, I understand 726 00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:34.480 because you know, probably all could have died that night. 727 00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:38.440 You know. At this point, we had put up all 728 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:42.559 our stuff raw on our site, our website, and a 729 00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:45.840 guy calls me up from California and he says, you 730 00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:49.239 know that one photo you took up on the ridge 731 00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:51.599 and I'm like yeah. He goes, there's a dog man 732 00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:54.480 on that photo. I'm like, what are you talking about? 733 00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:56.320 And we looked at that photo many times. We didn't 734 00:38:56.360 --> 00:39:00.519 see anything, you know, and we do our evidence reduce you. 735 00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:03.199 We use like a sixty in screen TV, you know, 736 00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:06.119 and there's like six of us. Everybody's looking and we 737 00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:08.400 didn't see it. So I thought I said, send it 738 00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:10.760 to me. I thought the guy at photoshopped to be 739 00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:13.119 honest with you, you know, he sends it to me, 740 00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:16.880 and there it is. You can see eyes and nose, ears, 741 00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:20.159 and you can see something peeking over the stone wall, 742 00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:23.559 like sniffing us, you know. So then I get Mike, 743 00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:25.400 I go to my camera, I pull up the SD 744 00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:28.039 card I thrown in the computer, and sure shit, there 745 00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.039 it is. And I don't know how we've never seen it, right, 746 00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:35.239 So I was like, Okay, that sasquatch was trying to 747 00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.920 get us out of there because we were in a 748 00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:40.239 we were in danger because we were in a dog 749 00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:43.599 man area. And that's what that sasquatch was trying to do, 750 00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:46.559 trying to get us to leave. But I was so 751 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:49.880 stubborn I wouldn't leave that night, you know. So now 752 00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:53.320 I see this dog man picture and I was like, okay, 753 00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:56.400 I'm being drawn back to the swamp, being drawn back 754 00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:59.440 to something. Go back to the swamp. As we're getting 755 00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:03.519 closer to the swamp, I'm getting hit with it. For sounds. 756 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.239 I'm one hundred yards away from the swamp, and I 757 00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:10.440 feel like I'm overheating, I feel nauseous, I feel like 758 00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:15.119 something is trying to stop me from getting to the swamp. 759 00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:18.760 But on the same hand, something is pulling me there. 760 00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.480 So Bill was like, let's go back, let's turn around. 761 00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:24.119 I said, turn around. It's a dude, I can see 762 00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:26.360 it from here. There's no way I'm turning around. You know, 763 00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:29.880 I'm not stopping now. Brian's pouring water over my head 764 00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:32.679 and he's giving me like oranges to eat and everything, 765 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:35.320 try to get me hydrated again because it was like 766 00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:39.599 one hundred degree day that day. And so I'm twenty 767 00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:42.360 minutes later, go by. I feel fine. We get back 768 00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:46.400 to the swamp. Three experienced investigators were looking around. We 769 00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:49.880 don't see nothing, and I'm like, man, I know there's 770 00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:53.920 something here because something drew me here and we're not seeing. 771 00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:56.400 It's like we got blinders on. We can't see anything. 772 00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:00.000 Then a little voice in my head goes off and says, 773 00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:02.519 jump on this giant rock in front of you. Jump 774 00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:05.039 on the rock, and they says, get you a walking stick. 775 00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:08.639 Move these cat tails, fifteen foot cat tails, and there 776 00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:11.519 right in front of me is a trackway into the swamp. 777 00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:14.679 It's like, called Brian up. It called Bill up. Everybody's 778 00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:17.760 looking in Oh my god, Bill wants to go into 779 00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:20.719 the swamp. He steps into the swamp, he sinks down 780 00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:23.199 to his knees. We got to pull him out, so 781 00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:26.239 we move the cat tails and we're filming. Bill zooms 782 00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:29.199 in and in the center of the swamp is a 783 00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:33.920 dog man den and in the den is this giant 784 00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:42.480 canine looking German wolf head facing west. Right next to 785 00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:48.199 that creature is a hyghena looking creature snarling at us 786 00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:50.559 like it's pissed. We found it's lare you know? 787 00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:53.400 And these are bipedal? Or are they one? 788 00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:58.599 Now they're all they're bipedal. They're bipedal. So we're freaking 789 00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:02.679 out because now the one that's snarling at us looks 790 00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:05.159 like the one that bluff charged us that night in 791 00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:10.280 the photograph. Okay, so now all of a sudden, the 792 00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:13.119 blinders are off and we're finding exits and arches and 793 00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:17.199 brakes and bends and twists. We're finding scat. We found 794 00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:21.559 something that looked like a homemade corral that where these 795 00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:25.320 creatures would chase dear into and then ambush them. It 796 00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.239 was crazy, and I was little vice in my head 797 00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:30.920 said go to the north end of the swamp. And 798 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:33.599 as I was on a ridge, a high ridge. Walking 799 00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:35.360 towards the north end of the swamp, I seen the 800 00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:37.360 trackway come out of the back of the swamp and 801 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:39.119 walk straight down to the center of the swamp to 802 00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:41.800 the north side. So we found all this stuff and 803 00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:43.960 I was like, okay, well it was a dog man 804 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:47.320 that bluffed us. We found a dog man. Den. We 805 00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:51.960 go back to Bill's house and we're looking at the 806 00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:58.199 evidence on his sixteen screen TV and Bill notices in 807 00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:02.679 the den with the two man looks like the creature 808 00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:07.199 from the Black Lagoon. Is it a reptilian? What is it? 809 00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:11.519 You know what I mean? But it's definitely definitely alien ish, 810 00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:13.840 you know what I mean, definitely look at reptilian. So 811 00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:16.840 Bill's mom comes in with coffee and cake, you know, 812 00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:20.480 the guys want coffee and cake. And I'm like yeah, 813 00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:22.679 and she says, oh, what are the two little monkeys 814 00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.239 doing in the in the den? And're like, what monkeys? 815 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:28.280 She goes right here, this the green creature's got him 816 00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:31.199 by there and this thing that looked like the creature 817 00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:34.800 from the Black Lagoon is holding two little monkeys' hands 818 00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:39.960 look like baby sasquatches, And we we're just freaking out 819 00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:42.719 right like, we can't believe that all the stuff that's 820 00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:46.159 popping up. Okay, so we go back. So now we're 821 00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:48.920 going definitely going to go back and investigate that again 822 00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:55.960 at some point. Right that fall was a warm night. 823 00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:59.960 It was it was like September night was September, late September, 824 00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:02.039 early October. There's a warm night. And I gotta be 825 00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:04.039 honest with you. I grew up in the city. I 826 00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:06.480 lived on the first floor. You don't sleep with your 827 00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:09.440 windows open in the city. Someone will come in if 828 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:12.199 you sleep with the windows open. Right, I live up 829 00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:14.880 in the country. Now my bedroom's on the first floor, 830 00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:20.000 and I got the window open, even though every fiber 831 00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:22.119 of my being is telling me do not sleep with 832 00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:26.079 the window open. Right that particular night, it was so warm. 833 00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:28.960 We didn't have the air conditions in the window. The 834 00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:31.239 fans were still down in the basement, all, you know, 835 00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:34.679 sealed up for the winter and everything. So I left 836 00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:39.239 the window open, and my little cat is sleeping in 837 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:42.920 between my wife and I, and like around three o'clock 838 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:46.480 in the morning, I pop up. I feel like something 839 00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:48.599 is on the other side of the wall. So I 840 00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:51.840 reach over to the wall and I'm feeling the wall 841 00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:54.639 like the energy coming through the wall. And I don't 842 00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:56.079 know why I do this, but I do it all 843 00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:59.480 the time, right, and I'm touching the wall, and the 844 00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:03.559 energy does not feel sasquatches. I've had sasquatch come through 845 00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:06.679 my yards many time leave me gifts, but this doesn't 846 00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.360 feel like a sasquatch. All of a sudden, the cat 847 00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:12.119 catches a whiff or something. She jumps straight up in 848 00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:14.639 the air, runs up stairs, and hides under the kid's bed. 849 00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:17.840 So now I'm looking out the window. I got my 850 00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:20.679 face right up against the screen, and I'm looking out 851 00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:23.039 the window and I can't see Jack in my backyard. 852 00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:27.559 It's pitch black, and I'm listening and I'm looking, and 853 00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:33.840 I hear something go like sniff me. And I was like, okay. 854 00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:37.199 I stepped away from the window, closed the window. I 855 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:41.320 locked it. I keep a pistol gripped twelve gay shotgun 856 00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:45.079 by my bed. It's right in between all my guitars, right, 857 00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:49.440 So I grab the shotgun and I start to walk 858 00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:51.760 out the living the bedroom, through the living room into 859 00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:53.440 the kitchen so I could put the sense of lights 860 00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:56.800 in the yard to see what's out there. As I'm 861 00:45:56.920 --> 00:45:59.639 walking in the living room. I hit that little voice 862 00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.119 in my head and say, stop. You don't want to 863 00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:04.360 see what's out there. You don't want to open you 864 00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:06.599 don't want to turn that light on. All you want 865 00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:08.760 to do is go to bed, Go back to bed, 866 00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:11.039 go back to sleep. Now I don't know if this 867 00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:13.960 is the creature telling me to do this, or if 868 00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:17.159 this is my guardian angel warning me that you know 869 00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:18.840 you don't want to open that you don't want to 870 00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:21.840 turn that light on. So I do something that's totally 871 00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:24.400 out of my out of my fib every fiber of 872 00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:26.679 my being. I go back to bed, I put the 873 00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:31.239 gun away, and I go to sleep. And I wake 874 00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:33.599 up the next morning and I go to work, and 875 00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:36.079 I call my partner during the day when I take 876 00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:38.199 my lunch, I tell them what's going on. It's like, well, 877 00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:39.440 you got to go back. You got to look for 878 00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:42.880 footprints underneath the window, you know. And we had just 879 00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:47.480 ran new water lines from the well to the house, 880 00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:50.239 so there was a part of the yard didn't have 881 00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:53.159 any grass on. It was just like top soil and stuff, 882 00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:55.800 you know, dirt. So when I went home that night, 883 00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:57.920 I went in the backyard and I looked and there 884 00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:01.679 underneath the bedroom window was a claw mark, like three 885 00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:05.920 claw marks under my bedroom Like, yeah, I was hair 886 00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:10.480 last night, you know. So I was like, okay, okay, 887 00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:12.639 So I said, you're going to come to my house. 888 00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.559 I'm going to come to your house, you know. And 889 00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:21.480 so we again went back and we did more investigation 890 00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:26.000 in the den area, you know, not so much. We 891 00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:28.280 wanted to get a drone and fly it into the den, 892 00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:32.760 but we never did that. But we did more investigating 893 00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:37.079 in the den, in the in the den area. Din's 894 00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:41.400 took more video of the den. This time. It was 895 00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:46.159 in the winter time, so the den wasn't quite as covered, 896 00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:48.840 you know what I mean, all the vines and everything 897 00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:51.199 that this thing had pulled over to make like a 898 00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:54.960 canopy kind of thing. We're dead. So you could see 899 00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:57.599 into the den, and we couldn't see anything into the 900 00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.360 den on the camera because we zoomed right in owl. 901 00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:04.280 And so I said, Okay, maybe it's not living here anymore, 902 00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:08.599 you know, maybe it's moved on to a different location. Okay. 903 00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:14.360 A few nights later, again I go, I'm sleeping. I 904 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:16.559 get up four thirty in the morning to go to work. 905 00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:20.079 First thing I do is I open up the sliding 906 00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:22.960 door in the backyard to the patio feed an outside cat. 907 00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:25.519 I got a little cat lives in the doghouse outside 908 00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:29.320 named Cali Feed Cali. Close everything. I got like three 909 00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:31.760 different locks on my doors because I'm from the city, 910 00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:34.320 you know, So I make sure everything is locked up 911 00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:36.239 nice and tight, because I know how easy it is 912 00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:39.280 to pop one of those sliding glass doors off the track, 913 00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:42.039 you know, if they're not bolted in in three different directions. 914 00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:46.400 So I got everything locked up that particular morning. I 915 00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:49.000 think we were supposed to get snow that night or something, 916 00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.519 and all the cars were in the driveway. My car 917 00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:54.639 was the closest to the road, and then there were 918 00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:59.440 three other cars behind mine, my son's, my daughter's, my wife's. 919 00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:03.119 My daughters are the one closest to the garage. So anyway, 920 00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:06.760 as I'm walking back, as I'm walking out that morning 921 00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:09.599 to start the car to warm it up, I feel 922 00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:13.159 like something is watching me. So I turn around and 923 00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:15.599 I'm looking. I don't see anything in my ear I 924 00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:19.679 don't see any of my neighbor's yards. I can't see 925 00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:22.320 anything under the front deck because the sense of lights 926 00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:24.519 are on, they're blinding me. And under the deck, it's 927 00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:27.400 pitch black to start the car up. So now every 928 00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:30.280 morning when I walk out, I'm carrying a can of 929 00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:33.519 pepper spray and a little four inch knife pocket knife, 930 00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:37.559 because we've had dogs run through the neighborhood tearing up garbages, 931 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:39.559 and I don't want to get mouled by a dog 932 00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:42.760 pack of dogs, wild dogs. So I'm carrying something that 933 00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:46.119 is going to help me survive that an attack. So 934 00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:51.239 as I'm walking back to my front door, I feel 935 00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:54.360 like there's something underneath the front deck looking at me. 936 00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:58.280 So I start walking towards the front door. Now the 937 00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:00.599 sense of lights is on. They're blinding me. I'm like, man, 938 00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:03.440 I can't see. I'm getting closer, and I'm getting closer. 939 00:50:03.519 --> 00:50:06.280 As I'm getting closer, I'm hearing a little voice say, 940 00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:09.559 maybe you should stop right about here. You know. It 941 00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:12.719 was like maybe a car and a half length away 942 00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:15.199 from the deck, and a little voice said maybe you 943 00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:18.960 should stop right about here. And I didn't stop. I 944 00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:21.000 flicked open the night because I'm the type of guy. 945 00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:24.280 If there's somebody trying to break into my house, there's 946 00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:27.639 some homeless guy hanging around under my deck, I'm going 947 00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:28.920 to take care of him, you know what I mean. 948 00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:30.760 They're not going to be there for very long, you know. 949 00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:36.000 And so as I'm getting closer, I'm about halfway past 950 00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:39.760 my daughter's car, half a light just past the front 951 00:50:39.880 --> 00:50:43.280 door with a sect the back door starts when I 952 00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:51.400 notice a giant A nine head looking at me. And 953 00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:55.320 now I'm really focusing in, you know, and I'm looking 954 00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:59.480 and I'm blocking out the light. I'm practically underneath the spotlight, 955 00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:01.960 so it's not my eyes. And I'm looking and I 956 00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:06.880 see this giant canine head and it's hunched over and 957 00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:10.400 it's got almost like a lions of mean coming down 958 00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:14.280 its chest and over its shoulders. And the little voice 959 00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:17.079 in my head said, maybe you should back out of 960 00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:21.320 here carefully, you know, because you know, and I know 961 00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:23.599 it's underneath this deck and this is not going to 962 00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:26.400 end well for you, right this thing, if it wanted to, 963 00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:29.519 it could have reached out and just shredded me, you know. 964 00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:33.599 So I backed out. I backed down. Now the thoughts 965 00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:35.960 are going through my head. Do I wake up my 966 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:39.119 son and my son in law. I got arsenal of 967 00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:42.320 guns in the house, big caliber guns. Do I go 968 00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.079 to war with this thing? Do I? Do? I? Blow 969 00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:47.639 up the garage door and everything, you know, go to 970 00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:50.880 war with this thing, And I say, no, I've heard 971 00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:53.440 too many stories where people go to war with these 972 00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:56.280 things and it ends bad for them. So I'm not 973 00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:59.559 going to tell anybody anything, and I'm just going to 974 00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:04.360 go to work and make believe nothing happened. As I'm 975 00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:06.880 leaving to go to work, I take my tactical flesh 976 00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:09.760 light out with me because I want to skin eyes 977 00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:12.679 on what's under the deck. So I hit the tactical 978 00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:16.000 flesh light and it's really like, you know, a thousand littlemits, 979 00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:19.159 really bright, so over it goes right through the sense 980 00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:21.559 of lights and I could see everything light up. And 981 00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:24.000 there's nothing under the bat under the front deck anymore. 982 00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:26.800 But I know there was something under there, so I 983 00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:28.840 go there and look, and I had just built a 984 00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:32.119 new retaining wall to hold the deck up, and this 985 00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:36.280 thing pissed all over my brand new retaining wall and 986 00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:39.159 down into my gutter for the driveway, you know, the 987 00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:43.639 drain for the driveway, And it was smelt like pneumonia 988 00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:46.960 and it was greasy and it was slick looking, and 989 00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:49.039 I was like, I was pissed. I was like, I 990 00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:52.360 just built this retaining wall and it pissed all over 991 00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:55.960 my wall in it it's marking, it's territory. No, this 992 00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:58.480 is not this is not gonna happen. Now, I'm going 993 00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:01.199 to go back to your house and piss on your house. Right, 994 00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:03.599 this is what's going through my head. You're not going 995 00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:05.400 to come to my house and piss on my shit. 996 00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:10.440 And I go to work and again I called my 997 00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:13.639 partner Brian up at lunchtime and I tell him what happened, 998 00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:16.280 and he's like, no. I go to work and I 999 00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:18.719 get to work early, and I'm having coffee, I'm reading 1000 00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:22.679 the paper, and my wife, Oh, while i'm as I'm 1001 00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:26.880 walking towards the deck, callie, this little like seven pound cat. 1002 00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:30.079 It's coming around the front to use my wife's garden 1003 00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:33.440 as a bathroom, right, And she must have seen what 1004 00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:36.400 was under the deck, because she did like a halloween cat. 1005 00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:38.920 She jumped straight up in the air and she ran 1006 00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:42.199 off into the woods. And she this seven pound cat 1007 00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:44.840 sound like a freight train running through the woods, right, 1008 00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:47.679 which definitely stopped me in my track. I knew there 1009 00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:51.039 was something there. So now I'm at work, I'm down 1010 00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:53.360 in the lunchroom, I having my coffee and reading my paper, 1011 00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:56.280 unwinding from the ride because it's like an hour and 1012 00:53:56.400 --> 00:53:58.440 fifteen minute ride for me to get to work. So 1013 00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:02.280 I'm unwinding from the ride and my wife calls me 1014 00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:06.440 up and she's hysterical, and I'm like, what's wrong, And 1015 00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:09.199 she's like, I went in the kitchen this morning to 1016 00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:12.920 open up the sliding lord to feed Cali, and the 1017 00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:16.519 whole door came off the frame and almost crushed me. 1018 00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:19.320 If my son wasn't in the kitchen with her and 1019 00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.360 caught it, it would have crushed my wife. And I 1020 00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:24.559 was like, first of all, why are you feeding the cat? 1021 00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:26.320 I fed the cat at for thirty in the morning. 1022 00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:28.199 You don't have to feed it again at seven, you know. 1023 00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:32.519 And I said, just have my son Nickers, Just have 1024 00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:35.760 Nick put the door back up, lock everything up. I'm 1025 00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:38.679 off tomorrow. I'll take it off. I'll retract the whole thing, 1026 00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:43.079 you know. And so while I was underneath the deck 1027 00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:47.719 looking at it pissed off of my wall. It must 1028 00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:50.880 have been trying to pop the door, the sliding gliss 1029 00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:53.719 or off of his tracks on the patio on the back, 1030 00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:56.519 like kind of showing me this is how easy it 1031 00:54:56.559 --> 00:54:57.840 is to get in there if I want to get 1032 00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:04.239 in you know, and that that kind of At that point, 1033 00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:06.679 I was like, okay, you know what, maybe we're just 1034 00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:10.760 gonna You're gonna. I went back to the den area 1035 00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:15.039 and I just spoke out loud and I said, Okay, 1036 00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:18.760 I got the message. I won't come to your house anymore, 1037 00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:22.159 but you don't come to mind either. And uh, from 1038 00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:25.400 that point on, I haven't had any experiences with the 1039 00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:29.519 dog Man around the house. But Saturday Sunday, I was 1040 00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:32.840 cutting grass and I did find a K nine track 1041 00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:37.559 in the backyard. You know, I wasn't able to cast it, 1042 00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:40.079 I mean to measure it because I just had too 1043 00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:41.679 much work to do. I had to get ship done 1044 00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:43.400 because it was going to rain the next three days. 1045 00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:46.760 So then I was gonna I was gonna measure it yesterday, 1046 00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:50.039 but well, you had storms last two days. And when 1047 00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:52.679 I went out to measure it, I took photographs of it, 1048 00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:55.480 and I sent it to my friends, you know, because 1049 00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:58.519 you know, we're the New York State dog Man Project 1050 00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:02.239 and we're also the North American dog Man Project. New 1051 00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:05.800 York State chapter directors me and my partner Brian, so 1052 00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:08.079 I sent it to the guys at the dog Man Project, 1053 00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:10.079 and I said, what do you guys think? And they're like, 1054 00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:12.400 did you measure it? You go measure it. So I 1055 00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:14.800 went out to measure it yesterday. But it's on the water, 1056 00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:18.320 you know, and we've been getting storms every day, so 1057 00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:21.119 I don't even know if it's going to be there 1058 00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:24.760 when all the storms eventually passed. But that's the dog 1059 00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:26.800 Man story at the house. Yeah. 1060 00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:29.960 Do you think that there may be authorities or some 1061 00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:34.079 sort of officials that are aware that these creatures exist 1062 00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:38.480 and they have instructions to keep it silent for some 1063 00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:40.679 reason or cover it up somehow. 1064 00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:46.239 Yes, there was an incident with me, and I'll talk 1065 00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:51.400 about it too often, but I was ran out of 1066 00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:55.000 the woods by but who I called the men in black? Yeah, 1067 00:56:55.079 --> 00:56:59.159 they weren't. They weren't actually men in black, but they 1068 00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:02.840 is on my way home from work one day and 1069 00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:05.480 it's a long ride, you know, and I'm just I 1070 00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:08.039 don't speed. I'm not a speeder, I'm a cruiser. I'm 1071 00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:10.400 in the right lane. Do it sixty five? Listening to 1072 00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:14.320 Leonard Skinner's just chilling out riding home and a police 1073 00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:17.920 car falls out of the sky behind me and it's 1074 00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:21.039 following me, and it's following me, and I'm like, all 1075 00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:23.679 of a sudden, the lights go on and they tell 1076 00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:25.760 me to pull over. Now where they had me pull 1077 00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:31.039 over was an old abandoned ski resort and right now 1078 00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:37.920 there's nothing there but New York State Police outpost, you know, 1079 00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:41.039 but there's never anybody there. But they're using it for construction. 1080 00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:44.679 So they got these giant piles of dirt all over 1081 00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:47.719 this giant parking lot. Parking lot is umongous, you know. 1082 00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:50.960 And they pull up and they say, go behind that 1083 00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:54.079 pile of dirt. And I'm like, this is not good, right, 1084 00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:57.039 So I pulled behind a pile of dirt and they're 1085 00:57:57.079 --> 00:58:01.079 talking to me through their microphones right there, and they're saying, Okay, 1086 00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:05.119 leave your seatbelt on, roll down both windows, and take 1087 00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:07.000 the keys out of cognition and throw them on the 1088 00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:11.639 floor in a passenger side. Okay. Now, now to me, 1089 00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:13.719 it's starting to feel like a hit. I feel like 1090 00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:17.880 I'm getting whacked, you know. I'm like, what's going on? 1091 00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:21.239 These two big dudes, and they would like look like 1092 00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:26.199 Arnold Schwarzenegger came out of this police car. Their badges 1093 00:58:26.280 --> 00:58:32.239 didn't match the car and there there. The one guy 1094 00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:34.440 pulls out this little black book and he grew, this 1095 00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:36.760 is this you, and then he goes through like my 1096 00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:38.800 whole life story, you know, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, 1097 00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:42.320 that's me, and he like a stay at our woods. 1098 00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:45.360 You may think you know what's in our woods now. 1099 00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:49.480 At this time, I was in the middle of a 1100 00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:54.159 dog man investigation at a different location. It was like 1101 00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:57.280 a different location that had a lot of dog man 1102 00:58:57.400 --> 00:59:00.280 stuff going on, and I was there when my team 1103 00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:03.880 doing a lot of investigating. Not that I seen anybody 1104 00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:07.719 else in the woods when we were there, but they 1105 00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:10.800 knew I was there. And then they're like, stay out 1106 00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:13.639 of our woods. And I got these two monsters on 1107 00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:16.760 either side of me, and I'm thinking, oh man, I'm 1108 00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:19.000 gonna get whacked. They're gonna whack me, throw the gun 1109 00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:21.280 in the car and said I committed suicide, you know, 1110 00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:24.920 and then they're threatening me with all kinds of stuff, 1111 00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:27.039 like you know, it would be a shame if you 1112 00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:31.880 lost your pension so close to retirement, and even stuff, 1113 00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:36.159 even stuff that hells to that. And I'm not even 1114 00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:38.400 going to say what they said on air. I'll tell 1115 00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:41.360 you off air, but not on air. I mean crazy, 1116 00:59:41.480 --> 00:59:45.639 crazy stuff, right, and they're screaming at me from both ends, 1117 00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:48.920 and I'm thinking, I go, wait a minute, says show 1118 00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:50.840 me some ID. You know. You showed me a bitch. 1119 00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:53.039 But that's nothing, you know. I you know, anybody could 1120 00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:54.800 have a bitch because you want to see my idea. 1121 00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:56.960 You want see the ID, you know. And he showed 1122 00:59:57.000 --> 00:59:59.039 me his gun because this is my ID. And I 1123 00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:01.519 was like, oh, that's that's a good idea. Yeah, I 1124 01:00:01.559 --> 01:00:05.039 recognized that one, you know, absolutely, yeah, I get it, 1125 01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:10.039 you know. And so then one guy starts screaming at 1126 01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:15.039 me and tell your e FN partner that to stay 1127 01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:17.280 out of the woods as well. And I was like, well, listen, 1128 01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:20.480 my partner is a grown man and he thinks for himself, 1129 01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:22.599 and he's going to do whatever he wants to do. 1130 01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:27.719 I will relay the message, but you know, don't blame 1131 01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:30.320 me if he doesn't say out of the woods. And 1132 01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:33.599 he goes, well, my partner happened to live in the 1133 01:00:33.639 --> 01:00:36.000 Bronx in New York City, and he said, well, it 1134 01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:38.480 would be a shame if we had to kick his 1135 01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:41.280 door down at three o'clock in the morning and arrestle 1136 01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:46.880 for being a domestic terrorist. Now, he say, no, no, 1137 01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:50.039 there's no wonder what kind of guns will find in 1138 01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:53.679 his apartment. And I know my partner, My partner doesn't 1139 01:00:53.679 --> 01:00:55.320 have any guns. He can't get up and you can't 1140 01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:58.519 get a gun in New York City. It's impossible, you know. 1141 01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:00.960 And I was like, I was like, okay, I'll pass 1142 01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:04.159 the message along, you know. And I told my partner 1143 01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:06.280 and he was like, well, you know, he ended up 1144 01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:09.239 buying a two way camera for his car in case 1145 01:01:09.239 --> 01:01:12.639 they ever pulled them over. But you know, he kind 1146 01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:14.320 of stayed out of the woods, you know, kind of 1147 01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:16.360 kept me out of the woods for two years, you know. 1148 01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:21.400 But we used to do two monthly meetings, one down 1149 01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:27.360 in Westchester, which was the Broxville Paranormal Society. Evidence review 1150 01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:30.360 stuff we did at a library, and we would invite 1151 01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:32.639 friends of ours to come and look at our evidence, 1152 01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:35.159 you know, fresh eyes, you know what I mean, to 1153 01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:39.199 see if we're missing anything. Because apparently we missed a 1154 01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:42.239 bigfoot looking at us one time too from underneath the tree. 1155 01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:44.360 Somebody sent me a picture saying, you know, there was 1156 01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:46.960 a big foot under the street looking at you. And 1157 01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:49.400 again they sent me the photographs and I thought it 1158 01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:52.480 was I thought it was photoshopped, and again I pulled 1159 01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:56.280 the FD card out and sure as shit, it was 1160 01:01:56.320 --> 01:01:58.840 there watching us. And I think it was the same 1161 01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:01.760 one that through the rock us at US that night. 1162 01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:05.280 I think it was just sticking around, you know what 1163 01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:09.320 I mean, to keep an eye on us, and sure 1164 01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:11.719 shit it was there. Was mind boggling. So and then 1165 01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:14.639 we did another one up here by me where we 1166 01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:17.039 would do a UFO thing, you know, we would have 1167 01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:20.719 people come and be and we talked basically UFOs, but 1168 01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:24.840 we talked about everything ghost and you know, Cryptis as well. 1169 01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:27.559 You know. So the guy, one of the guys, says 1170 01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:30.960 to me, oh, you know, we always felt like we 1171 01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:34.519 had people coming in to the to the meeting up 1172 01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:37.519 state at the So we held it at a restaurant 1173 01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:39.360 and we felt like we every now and then we 1174 01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:42.079 would get like these government guys come in. I would say, 1175 01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:45.800 I point some guy out Barnabrian go, yeah, absolutely, he's 1176 01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:49.440 definitely a FED you know. And so the one guy 1177 01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:53.360 says to me, he says, uh, oh, by the way, 1178 01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:55.880 what are you guys going to discuss Thursday night at 1179 01:02:55.880 --> 01:03:00.159 the meeting? And I started laughing, you know, I'm like, well, well, 1180 01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:04.840 it's UFOs, you know. And he says, yeah, he goes 1181 01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:08.360 stick stick with shit that nobody gives a shit about. 1182 01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:11.559 He saysn't stay out of our woods. And I was like, yeah, 1183 01:03:11.679 --> 01:03:15.079 we're gonna stick with UFOs. I told them I amometer 1184 01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:17.719 and raised no flu We're gonna talk to UFOs, you know. 1185 01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:22.679 And and we and then we had our regular UFO 1186 01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:25.719 meeting that Thursday night, and we didn't see any people 1187 01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:28.519 come in that look suspicious, you know, So we don't 1188 01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:30.559 know if they were there that night or if they 1189 01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:33.559 were sitting outside listening with a microphone or whatever, you 1190 01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:37.159 know what I mean, a parabolic mic or whatever. But yeah, 1191 01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:39.239 it was crazy. But I mean kept me out of 1192 01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:42.199 the woods for two years because it was. When I 1193 01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:45.880 tell you the shit they told me off air, it'll 1194 01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:48.320 freak you out because they freaked me out, you know 1195 01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:52.199 what I mean. Yeah, these guys, these guys were not joking. 1196 01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:56.119 They were not playing by any stretching you imagine they were. 1197 01:03:56.280 --> 01:04:00.880 They looked like special ops. The badges didn't the cars 1198 01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:04.920 they didn't look like cops, the state cops, you know 1199 01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:11.760 what I mean. They were driving park police cars, but 1200 01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:16.440 but the badges were like state police badges, and it 1201 01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:21.719 didn't match, Like State police drive black, blue and gold 1202 01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:24.519 cars here in New York and the park police drive 1203 01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:28.800 white and green, so, you know, and they have different uniforms, 1204 01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:31.519 they have different badges. I looked it up to see 1205 01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:34.039 what the badges looked like, and the badges they showed 1206 01:04:34.079 --> 01:04:37.039 me were state badges, not park badges, you know, but 1207 01:04:37.079 --> 01:04:39.840 they would driving. I think they just went to like 1208 01:04:40.039 --> 01:04:43.760 either the State Police headquarters, pulled two badges off the 1209 01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:47.199 wall that were retired maybe, and grabbed the first set 1210 01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:48.920 of keys they could find that, you know, it was 1211 01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:52.159 a park police car. And then for like a month, 1212 01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:56.079 every time I passed this location on the way to 1213 01:04:56.199 --> 01:04:58.880 work or on the way home work, a police car 1214 01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:00.800 would drop out of the sky and follow me for 1215 01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:03.840 like a couple of miles. And it didn't matter if 1216 01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:07.400 I went there at four dirty in the morning, five o'clock, 1217 01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:11.360 five dirty, four o'clock, It did no matter how I 1218 01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:14.880 changed it up. Soon as I passed this particular location, 1219 01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:17.800 a police car would drop out of the sky and 1220 01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:20.880 follow me for at least a couple of exits. And 1221 01:05:20.920 --> 01:05:23.960 it was their way to tell me, we're still watching you, 1222 01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:26.679 you know. And I was like dude, I get it 1223 01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:28.159 lot and clear, you know what I mean. 1224 01:05:28.639 --> 01:05:30.159 That's not on me first time. 1225 01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:35.400 I have heard this very thing that clandestine seeming men 1226 01:05:35.480 --> 01:05:41.199 in black type groups are threatening people are following people 1227 01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:45.719 that have had encounters with these dog man creatures, and 1228 01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:52.599 it seems like there are incredibly focused on keeping people 1229 01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:57.239 from finding out anything about what's going on with this. 1230 01:05:57.480 --> 01:05:59.800 And it reminds me of some of the accounts I've 1231 01:05:59.840 --> 01:06:04.360 heard from people in Joshua Tree Nashville Park National Park 1232 01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:08.079 that have also seen these dog man creatures. One of 1233 01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:10.559 them claimed that he hit one with his car and 1234 01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:15.000 within seconds he had these men in black type vehicles 1235 01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:17.719 pull up around him and tell him he didn't see anything, 1236 01:06:17.760 --> 01:06:19.440 that he has to get going and they were going 1237 01:06:19.519 --> 01:06:20.280 to take care of it. 1238 01:06:20.840 --> 01:06:22.519 So that's very interesting, man. 1239 01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:25.840 Yeah, we just did. We just did Brian and Knights. 1240 01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:28.079 Brian lives in Florida now, but he came up for 1241 01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:31.039 the summer and we just did a dog Man presentation 1242 01:06:31.280 --> 01:06:33.840 in pine Bush, New York, which is the New York 1243 01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:37.599 State UFO capital, but they have a museum and they 1244 01:06:37.639 --> 01:06:41.039 asked me to put a presentation together dog Man presentation, 1245 01:06:41.480 --> 01:06:43.360 and I asked Brian since he was in town if 1246 01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:46.239 he wanted to participate with me. And we just did 1247 01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:49.880 this long presentation. It's like a three hour presentation, and 1248 01:06:51.199 --> 01:06:53.440 I told the audience. I wasn't sure if it was 1249 01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:55.719 going to tell him or not, but at one point 1250 01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:58.519 I told the audience about the code words that they use, 1251 01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:01.559 you know. And and there was two guys in the 1252 01:07:01.679 --> 01:07:04.400 in the in the in the audience that looked like 1253 01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:08.079 narks and they were taking notes. So after the after 1254 01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:10.960 the presentation was over, they happened to be standing by 1255 01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:13.639 my camera that I had set up the film. I 1256 01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:18.000 went over to him and I said, FBI and NSA, 1257 01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:20.639 you know what I mean, just jokingly, and they both 1258 01:07:20.679 --> 01:07:22.960 started laughing. They're like, no, no, no, we have a 1259 01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:25.880 podcast and where you know, we follow you guys, and 1260 01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:27.960 you know, we love you guys, and YadA, YadA, YadA. 1261 01:07:28.400 --> 01:07:30.000 And then one of them said something to me, goes, 1262 01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:33.239 you know, my uncle is a stage trooper and he's 1263 01:07:33.239 --> 01:07:35.679 been to trooper for a long time, and he goes, 1264 01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:39.039 I asked him about that cod word that you you 1265 01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:43.559 said they use, and he goes, and my uncle didn't 1266 01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:45.719 talk to me for six months. He said, don't ever 1267 01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:49.079 use that around me ever again, he goes. So we goes. 1268 01:07:49.119 --> 01:07:52.840 So when you said that, he goes, you've validated yourself 1269 01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:55.960 so much to me, he said, because if you would 1270 01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:57.960 have used a different code word, I would have known 1271 01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:00.800 you were full of shit, he goes. But because you 1272 01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:04.199 used it, and I had already mentioned it to my uncle, 1273 01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:06.559 who's like, you know, high up in the in the 1274 01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:09.119 state police, and he got mad at me, and he said, 1275 01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:11.360 don't never don't ever talk to me about that ever again, 1276 01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:14.639 and don't never use that code word ever again. He goes. 1277 01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:17.079 I knew, he goes, I knew you were spot on 1278 01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:20.319 from that moment on, he said. I was like, very cool, 1279 01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:22.800 I was, I said, I wasn't really sure if I 1280 01:08:22.880 --> 01:08:26.119 was gonna tell everybody, because you know, I like to 1281 01:08:26.319 --> 01:08:29.640 keep stuff a secret to validate people when they tell me, 1282 01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:31.560 when they give me information, to see if they're full 1283 01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:34.720 of shit or not, you know, And I have some 1284 01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:37.640 things I use I keep in my back pocket to 1285 01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:40.159 validate stuff, and that was one of them. But that 1286 01:08:40.279 --> 01:08:44.960 particular night, I felt strongly about dropping that those code words, 1287 01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:48.279 you know, because I actually asked everybody, it's like, how 1288 01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:50.520 many of you guys listen to police scanners, you don't 1289 01:08:50.800 --> 01:08:52.560 and a lot of because we're up in the country, 1290 01:08:52.600 --> 01:08:54.840 a lot of people listen to police scanners, you know. 1291 01:08:55.560 --> 01:08:58.920 And h and I said, okay, well if you ever 1292 01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:02.239 had these three code words, this means this, this means this, 1293 01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:04.399 and this means this. And they were like, get out 1294 01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:06.520 of here. And I'm like, yeah, I don't think you'd. 1295 01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:09.079 Be able to relay those code words here. 1296 01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:14.880 I'll tell you off there, sure, right right, yeah, I 1297 01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:16.880 don't want to get away all my all my secrets 1298 01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:20.079 and stuff. You know. You know, this is years and 1299 01:09:20.199 --> 01:09:22.359 years and years of research. I just don't want to 1300 01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:24.920 give it away to, you know, people who are armshare 1301 01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:28.319 researchers and claim to be boots on the ground, you know. 1302 01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:31.159 Right on right, Well, we got a few minutes left. 1303 01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:35.279 Let's let's do this. What are your thoughts on what 1304 01:09:35.479 --> 01:09:38.640 these creatures are. Do you think that they're supernatural being 1305 01:09:38.840 --> 01:09:43.000 shape shifters. Are they from different dimensions? Are they just hominids, 1306 01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:47.960 lost humanoids that have been around forever or extra terrestrials? 1307 01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:48.640 What do you think? 1308 01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:51.680 Well, well, we know, we know, we know one thing 1309 01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:54.920 that the dog Man and the Bigfoot both have human 1310 01:09:55.079 --> 01:09:59.039 DNA in them. Okay, so we know that the female, 1311 01:09:59.119 --> 01:10:04.399 the monochondrial DNA is human. The nuclear DNA, the male 1312 01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:07.760 DNA is unknown, so we know they have some kind 1313 01:10:07.760 --> 01:10:10.239 of human trait in them. 1314 01:10:11.479 --> 01:10:14.960 I now, where did you get the DNA information from? 1315 01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:19.520 Oh, Melville? Doctor Melville? Catchum, She she did it. She 1316 01:10:19.640 --> 01:10:22.600 did a DNA study on both. I don't know if 1317 01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:25.479 her dog Man DNA stuff is out yet. I probably 1318 01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:29.000 shouldn't have said anything but her her No, I know 1319 01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:32.920 her Bigfoot stuff is and she's legit. Yeah, she's legit, okay, 1320 01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:39.960 and so uh so, you know, we know that I've 1321 01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:43.840 been to enough symposiums where I've been lucky enough to 1322 01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:48.039 sit world renow in psychics, and whenever I'm sitting at 1323 01:10:48.039 --> 01:10:52.680 a table, would anybody that impressed me? I like to 1324 01:10:52.760 --> 01:10:57.880 pick their brains? And every single one I've asked said 1325 01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:03.479 the same thing to me. There interdimensional beings as far 1326 01:11:03.479 --> 01:11:07.159 as Bigfoot is concerned, as far as dog Man is concerned, 1327 01:11:07.520 --> 01:11:15.159 there's a couple of different species. One is interdimensional, one 1328 01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:21.399 is flesh and blood that's actually just here, and one 1329 01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:28.239 is demonic in nature, like an evil an evil entity 1330 01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:32.000 from a different dimension that can pop in and out. 1331 01:11:32.119 --> 01:11:34.039 And they would tell me. The what they'd explained it 1332 01:11:34.079 --> 01:11:37.000 to me is, you know, there are the ones that 1333 01:11:37.039 --> 01:11:39.560 you shoot and you know you can't find the body. 1334 01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:42.840 Those are the interdimensional ones. The one there are somes 1335 01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:45.119 that you shoot that they can put down, and I 1336 01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:48.239 know people who've put them down, you know what I mean, 1337 01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:51.600 have killed them. And then there's the ones that just 1338 01:11:52.199 --> 01:11:55.319 pop up in your living room or in your bedroom 1339 01:11:55.319 --> 01:11:56.680 in the middle of a night and it looks like 1340 01:11:56.760 --> 01:11:59.399 a dog man. And those are the ones. They claim 1341 01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:05.520 to be interdimensional demonic entities. They can show themselves. They're 1342 01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:08.720 like a shape shifter. They can show themselves to you 1343 01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:13.399 anyway they want. Usually it's whatever scares you the most. 1344 01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:15.680 You're not the folks that put them down. What did 1345 01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:18.760 they do with the bodies? Did they evidence? 1346 01:12:20.039 --> 01:12:24.359 Some people burnt them? I know at least three different people. 1347 01:12:24.439 --> 01:12:29.319 One one group burnt it, burnt everything, One group chopped 1348 01:12:29.359 --> 01:12:32.920 everything up and put lie over it and buried it. 1349 01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:37.279 And the third group what did the dirt group do? 1350 01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:42.479 Why wouldn't they come out and reveal this to the 1351 01:12:42.640 --> 01:12:46.159 to the world that these creatures exist. 1352 01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:49.840 For the same reason that the guys will stop me 1353 01:12:49.960 --> 01:12:54.399 on the parkway? Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, 1354 01:12:55.880 --> 01:12:57.800 and the Dird group. I forgot what the Dird group 1355 01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:00.159 did with them. I know it was they burnt. One 1356 01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:03.079 burnt when buried, and I don't remember what the third 1357 01:13:03.119 --> 01:13:06.399 one did with it, but they definitely got they got 1358 01:13:06.479 --> 01:13:09.439 rid of the evidence. Yeah, they do only have any 1359 01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:14.800 evidence lying around because they're not they're not trying to 1360 01:13:14.840 --> 01:13:17.920 prove the existence of these things. They're just trying to 1361 01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:21.720 get rid of them in their areas, you know what 1362 01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:25.119 I mean. So, I mean it's crazy stuff, you know, 1363 01:13:25.239 --> 01:13:28.239 there's I mean again, like I said, as far as 1364 01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:30.680 the big foots go, I believe they are into dimensional 1365 01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:33.560 I think they can change the spectrum of light they're 1366 01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:36.640 in so that we can't see him. I've spoken to 1367 01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:40.319 so many hunters, I mean so many hunters who've had 1368 01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:43.319 them in the cross airs of their guns. And then 1369 01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:46.279 the bigfoot will do like a sniff and they looking 1370 01:13:46.359 --> 01:13:48.399 in a direction, like they catch a whiff of them, 1371 01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:51.279 and they look in the direction and they just blink 1372 01:13:51.319 --> 01:13:53.000 out and he goes. I don't know if they just 1373 01:13:53.560 --> 01:13:56.560 blinked out like I dream a genie and went somewhere else, 1374 01:13:57.199 --> 01:14:00.880 or they just turned invisible, or what if still standing 1375 01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:03.479 there and they're not moving because I can't see them, 1376 01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:08.560 but they're just totally disappeared, you know. So I was like, yeah, no, 1377 01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:11.600 I get it. You know, it's like people are confused. 1378 01:14:11.640 --> 01:14:16.479 I've had friends my whole life, guys I've grown, went 1379 01:14:16.520 --> 01:14:22.520 to school with family members, people my neighbors that are 1380 01:14:22.640 --> 01:14:25.279 big hunters, and I hear the same shit from them 1381 01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:27.960 for thirty years. I've heard the same thing. I've been 1382 01:14:28.039 --> 01:14:30.680 hunting all my life. I've never seen anything. How come 1383 01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:34.119 I've never seen them. Every single one of them has 1384 01:14:34.239 --> 01:14:36.720 called me at one point and said, dude, you're not 1385 01:14:36.760 --> 01:14:40.560 going to believe what I've seen today. And every single 1386 01:14:40.640 --> 01:14:44.079 one of them never went back to their hunting locations 1387 01:14:44.079 --> 01:14:46.840 that they hunted for twenty five years. They're just they're 1388 01:14:46.880 --> 01:14:50.079 done with the hunting in that location. And every single 1389 01:14:50.119 --> 01:14:53.880 one of them had a different, a different, a different experience, 1390 01:14:54.199 --> 01:14:57.800 but they all seen bigfoot creatures. Yeah. And it was 1391 01:14:57.840 --> 01:15:00.159 just like, and I'll call them creatures. I mean, if 1392 01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:03.119 there are people, you know, they have human DNA. I 1393 01:15:03.159 --> 01:15:05.279 did have one guy say something to me one time. 1394 01:15:05.359 --> 01:15:07.680 I was like, I don't know if they're part human 1395 01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:09.560 because they have a human day and then the guy 1396 01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:12.199 said to me, well, maybe we're part Bigfoot and we 1397 01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:15.119 got our DNA from them. And I was like, whoa, 1398 01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:17.319 you just blew my mind, you know what I mean? 1399 01:15:17.920 --> 01:15:20.600 Yeah, it's interesting there there could be some kind of 1400 01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:24.359 DNA connection. I know that there's evidence that we had 1401 01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:28.079 giants in our ancient past. Maybe these are remnants of 1402 01:15:28.119 --> 01:15:31.399 the giants from our ancient past. There's so many theories 1403 01:15:31.439 --> 01:15:35.000 that could these could be. But it's very interesting and 1404 01:15:35.199 --> 01:15:37.680 al thank you so much. This was fantastic. We're gonna 1405 01:15:37.720 --> 01:15:39.680 have to do this again because there's so much more 1406 01:15:39.720 --> 01:15:41.159 we could talk about that one by. 1407 01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:44.159 This is just a tip of the iceberg. 1408 01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:44.760 Yeah. 1409 01:15:44.880 --> 01:15:47.800 Yeah, man, before you go, let the audience know where 1410 01:15:47.800 --> 01:15:49.760 they can find out more about you. If you got 1411 01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:52.279 any content out there, all your good stuff. 1412 01:15:52.680 --> 01:15:55.159 Yeah we got. We got a bronx Fill Paranormal Society 1413 01:15:55.239 --> 01:15:58.279 YouTube page. We have a war own website. We have 1414 01:15:58.319 --> 01:16:01.720 a hotline for the BPS website. We have a hotline 1415 01:16:01.720 --> 01:16:05.560 for the New York State UFO Project. We also have 1416 01:16:05.680 --> 01:16:09.239 Facebook pages for the New York State UFO Project, Bronxville 1417 01:16:09.319 --> 01:16:14.279 Paranormal Society, New York State dog Man Project, New York 1418 01:16:14.319 --> 01:16:17.640 State Sasquatch Organization, that's you know, I'm the founder and 1419 01:16:17.640 --> 01:16:19.920 director of All of O's and my partner Brian is 1420 01:16:19.960 --> 01:16:24.520 as well, and so if you guys want to contact us, 1421 01:16:24.520 --> 01:16:26.760 you can call the hotline and you know Lebrian and 1422 01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:29.039 I will pick up, or you can shoot me an 1423 01:16:29.039 --> 01:16:33.359 email or text me on Facebook messager. I'm always around Facebook. 1424 01:16:33.399 --> 01:16:36.920 I can't do every single social media site in the world. 1425 01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:39.000 I just don't have the time, so I kind of 1426 01:16:39.079 --> 01:16:40.399 just hop around Facebook. 1427 01:16:41.239 --> 01:16:41.720 Excellent. 1428 01:16:42.239 --> 01:16:44.560 Today, I want to welcome back to the show Ed Mabry. 1429 01:16:44.680 --> 01:16:48.119 He's a truth seeker and researcher. He started blogging on 1430 01:16:48.199 --> 01:16:51.479 his website faith by Reason dot net in twenty ten 1431 01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:56.760 and added podcast in twenty seventeen to help truth seekers 1432 01:16:56.920 --> 01:17:04.840 understand and examine Christian philosophy using logic, reason, and systematic analysis. Ed, 1433 01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:06.479 welcome back. How you doing. 1434 01:17:08.079 --> 01:17:10.199 I'm good, Chris, how are you? Thanks for having me 1435 01:17:10.279 --> 01:17:10.920 back on your show. 1436 01:17:11.119 --> 01:17:13.560 I'm excellent. Thank you so much for coming back on. 1437 01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:17.279 I enjoyed our discussion last time, and today we're going 1438 01:17:17.319 --> 01:17:20.880 to be talking about your research into the possibility that 1439 01:17:20.960 --> 01:17:24.680 the speed of light may be slowing down and this 1440 01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:29.079 may connect to things like the current state of our 1441 01:17:29.159 --> 01:17:33.880 human condition, the events unfolding, and much more so we're 1442 01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:36.840 going to get into this is a very interesting theory. 1443 01:17:37.119 --> 01:17:38.279 Before we get too. 1444 01:17:38.119 --> 01:17:41.159 Far, remind the audience a little bit about yourself and 1445 01:17:41.199 --> 01:17:41.720 your work. 1446 01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:44.960 Sure. Yeah, my name is Ed Mabray. 1447 01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:47.880 I am a researcher, a truth seeker, and a Christian 1448 01:17:48.760 --> 01:17:50.520 in that order, because I just I think that as 1449 01:17:50.520 --> 01:17:53.039 long as you do your research and you seek the truth, 1450 01:17:53.079 --> 01:17:55.880 I think you'll eventually find your way to the spiritual realm. 1451 01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:57.880 And I think you'll eventually find your way to the 1452 01:17:58.520 --> 01:18:03.000 Judeo Christian God. And that's really what my efficts are 1453 01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:06.039 all about. My podcast and my videos and my blogs. 1454 01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:08.720 They're all on a faith by Reason dot net, so 1455 01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:13.079 there's like hundreds of hours of material there again, blogs, podcasts, 1456 01:18:13.119 --> 01:18:17.159 and videos. And I am, you know, I'm a pretty 1457 01:18:17.239 --> 01:18:20.199 educated person. I am, you know, a logical thinker, a 1458 01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:23.359 systems thinker, and I wanted to apply the way I 1459 01:18:23.439 --> 01:18:28.640 think to the Bible and to the idea of the 1460 01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:32.479 Judeo Christian philosophy. And so I grew up in the church. 1461 01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:35.640 I was told not to question what I believe, just 1462 01:18:35.680 --> 01:18:37.880 to kind of go with it, and I did. But 1463 01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:39.800 you know, as I got older, I just didn't sit 1464 01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:42.239 right with me. And I just thought that if what 1465 01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:45.039 I was taught was true, if what I believed about 1466 01:18:45.640 --> 01:18:48.600 God and spirituality was true, and this should actually makes sense, 1467 01:18:49.039 --> 01:18:51.439 you know, logically and reasonably. And that's kind of the 1468 01:18:51.560 --> 01:18:54.079 journey I went on. And you know, that was kind 1469 01:18:54.079 --> 01:18:56.039 of my prayer, as it were, to God, to you know, 1470 01:18:56.079 --> 01:18:58.680 to make it make sense. And you know his credit, 1471 01:18:58.720 --> 01:19:01.079 he honored that and he let me to research and 1472 01:19:01.119 --> 01:19:05.880 materials and to people who actually did make it make sense. 1473 01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:08.159 And my research as well as has done that. So 1474 01:19:08.720 --> 01:19:10.960 what I want to do is help people, whether they 1475 01:19:10.960 --> 01:19:15.680 are Christians or not, just understand why just mis judaeo 1476 01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:18.439 Christian philosophy makes sense, why it make maybe it makes 1477 01:19:18.479 --> 01:19:21.079 more sense than some of the other types of world views. 1478 01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:22.520 And then you know, I just leave to people to 1479 01:19:23.359 --> 01:19:25.279 take it on their own and do your own research 1480 01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:28.000 and decide, you know, what works for you. But you know, 1481 01:19:28.079 --> 01:19:30.800 this is my point of view, and you know, I 1482 01:19:31.119 --> 01:19:35.680 love getting questions and interacting with people. But yeah, but 1483 01:19:35.800 --> 01:19:38.600 my goal is really to help Christians who think like 1484 01:19:38.680 --> 01:19:43.159 me really make sense of our of our world from 1485 01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:45.479 you know, the beginning to where we are now and 1486 01:19:45.520 --> 01:19:46.159 into the future. 1487 01:19:46.760 --> 01:19:47.199 Excellent. 1488 01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:52.359 And I love having as many different perspectives as possible, 1489 01:19:52.720 --> 01:19:57.840 as many different points of views, different religious and spiritual beliefs, 1490 01:19:58.279 --> 01:20:03.119 because I believe that every body has very important pieces 1491 01:20:03.199 --> 01:20:06.319 of the puzzle. Even though individually we may not have 1492 01:20:06.439 --> 01:20:09.880 the whole picture. Everybody brings something to the table, and 1493 01:20:09.920 --> 01:20:12.760 it gives us a much better understanding of what we're 1494 01:20:12.800 --> 01:20:16.119 working with here. So where should we start with your 1495 01:20:16.239 --> 01:20:19.800 theory about the speed of light? Tell us how you 1496 01:20:19.840 --> 01:20:20.800 stumbled upon this? 1497 01:20:22.199 --> 01:20:25.720 Sure, So the way I stumbled upon it was I 1498 01:20:25.800 --> 01:20:30.039 was doing some study into the Book of Genesis, you know, 1499 01:20:30.199 --> 01:20:32.279 That's that's kind of where we start. I have a 1500 01:20:32.319 --> 01:20:35.199 group that I do studies with and we were just 1501 01:20:35.239 --> 01:20:38.000 talking through it, and we just discovered that the Book 1502 01:20:38.039 --> 01:20:41.119 of Genesis is really it's the only book that was 1503 01:20:41.439 --> 01:20:46.359 directly dictated by Jehovah, by the God of the Bible, 1504 01:20:46.640 --> 01:20:49.840 to Moses and everything else after Genesis is really a 1505 01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:53.000 commentary on Genesis. So the whole story is right there, 1506 01:20:53.039 --> 01:20:56.760 you know, from the creation narrative through the original the 1507 01:20:56.800 --> 01:20:59.760 fall of humanity and the fall of tergies we call 1508 01:20:59.800 --> 01:21:02.279 am angels, which is more accurately Eloheim and I think. 1509 01:21:02.319 --> 01:21:03.800 I mentioned this the last time I was on your 1510 01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:06.119 show because I don't like using the term angel because 1511 01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:08.319 angel is it's not a it's it's a job title. 1512 01:21:08.359 --> 01:21:11.399 Angel comes from the Greek anglos, which just means messenger. 1513 01:21:11.600 --> 01:21:15.119 And yet some of these entities you know, delivered messages, 1514 01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:17.720 but that's not who they are. The term is eloheim, 1515 01:21:18.199 --> 01:21:23.359 and Eloheim is translated God good in English. But it's 1516 01:21:23.439 --> 01:21:25.720 kind of an unfortunate translation because it leads people to 1517 01:21:25.760 --> 01:21:28.000 believe that are some people to think that there may 1518 01:21:28.039 --> 01:21:30.680 be like multiple gods who are on par with the 1519 01:21:30.680 --> 01:21:33.880 God of the Judeo Christian God of the Bible. No, 1520 01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:38.439 So eloheim is a term of residency. So if your 1521 01:21:38.520 --> 01:21:40.960 residency is in a spiritual realm, you are in eloheim. 1522 01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:44.039 If your residency is on this material plane, you are 1523 01:21:44.079 --> 01:21:47.840 called man. And of course the industry we call God. 1524 01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:51.000 And I've prefer to use the term Jehovah. Basically that's 1525 01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:53.720 the name Yahweh Yahua. I just use Jehovah, which is 1526 01:21:53.720 --> 01:21:56.399 the German transliteration, because it's just easier for me to pronounce. 1527 01:21:57.079 --> 01:22:01.159 So Jehovah is an elohem, but he is, but and 1528 01:22:01.159 --> 01:22:04.199 there's there are other Eloheem, which we call angels because 1529 01:22:04.199 --> 01:22:06.800 they reside in a spiritual realm. So it's like saying, 1530 01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:10.279 you know, I'm an American, but that's not my name, 1531 01:22:10.359 --> 01:22:12.880 that's that's where I reside, and say, the President of 1532 01:22:12.920 --> 01:22:15.039 the United States is also an American, but we have 1533 01:22:15.079 --> 01:22:19.880 different levels of authority. So Jehovah elohem highest authority. Other 1534 01:22:20.439 --> 01:22:24.279 beings in a spiritual realm are also eloheim. So anyway, 1535 01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:27.640 the point is we're looking. So Genesis basically lays everything out, 1536 01:22:27.960 --> 01:22:31.000 and if you understand what goes on there, then you 1537 01:22:31.039 --> 01:22:34.960 can really understand the rest of the biblical narrative, the 1538 01:22:35.039 --> 01:22:38.560 story that Jehovah has given to humankind to help us 1539 01:22:38.640 --> 01:22:43.960 understand him, because the beginning of what he did and 1540 01:22:43.960 --> 01:22:46.840 what he wants from us is all there. So the 1541 01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:50.640 beginning here he creates the spiritual realm and the material realm, 1542 01:22:51.600 --> 01:22:54.560 and his goal is the reason you would you would 1543 01:22:54.560 --> 01:22:57.119 create other intelligence is there's only one logical reason you 1544 01:22:57.119 --> 01:22:59.640 would create other beings with intelligence, is because you want 1545 01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:02.960 to interact with them. You want to interact, you want 1546 01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:06.600 to share their experiences, and that's why Jehovah created the 1547 01:23:06.720 --> 01:23:11.920 elohem and the humanity. But he had a plan for 1548 01:23:12.119 --> 01:23:14.720 each one of these realms. And the plan for humanity 1549 01:23:14.960 --> 01:23:17.600 in which you saw initially with with the Adam and 1550 01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:22.680 even narrative, was for humanity to rule the earth and 1551 01:23:22.720 --> 01:23:25.920 to make the earth, like Eden, be fruitful and multiply. 1552 01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:27.119 He told them to go out. 1553 01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:30.800 Have kids, make more humans, and then the and during 1554 01:23:31.079 --> 01:23:33.119 the day we were to you know, rule the earth 1555 01:23:33.159 --> 01:23:35.079 as his image bearers, and says, you know, when it 1556 01:23:35.119 --> 01:23:37.960 says we're made in the image of Jehovah, it means 1557 01:23:37.960 --> 01:23:41.600 that we bear his image, and which means that creation 1558 01:23:41.760 --> 01:23:45.199 was to obey Adam and ether way it obeyed God. 1559 01:23:46.119 --> 01:23:47.720 And then in the cool, in the evening and the 1560 01:23:47.760 --> 01:23:50.279 cool of the day, we would walk with him. And 1561 01:23:50.359 --> 01:23:52.760 walking with him doesn't mean just like physically walking, It 1562 01:23:52.760 --> 01:23:56.640 means deep intimate sharing sharing, so we would. So human 1563 01:23:56.800 --> 01:23:59.600 humanity was meant to rule this earth and then have 1564 01:23:59.720 --> 01:24:03.439 spiritual intimacy. And Eden had all the perfect provision all that. 1565 01:24:03.479 --> 01:24:06.479 And of course, as we know, the story the humanity 1566 01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:09.199 fell and then the rest of the Bible is really 1567 01:24:09.279 --> 01:24:12.680 all about the efforts that Jehovah's making to get us 1568 01:24:12.840 --> 01:24:14.840 back to that state, which is what occurs at the 1569 01:24:14.880 --> 01:24:17.520 end of revelation, so back to where the speed of 1570 01:24:17.600 --> 01:24:22.199 light comes in. Were truly trying to understand the progression 1571 01:24:22.439 --> 01:24:26.600 the rest of that story from when we humanity kind 1572 01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:28.560 of fell out of favor all the way to where 1573 01:24:28.600 --> 01:24:33.079 we are now, and how there's a difference between the 1574 01:24:33.079 --> 01:24:36.840 way the people we call the ancients viewed spirituality and 1575 01:24:36.880 --> 01:24:41.680 the way we view spirituality today. If you study any 1576 01:24:41.800 --> 01:24:44.439 of the so called ancients, and we're talking just roughly 1577 01:24:44.479 --> 01:24:46.880 ten thousand ish years ago, i'll just call that the 1578 01:24:46.880 --> 01:24:52.439 ancient times people seem very spiritually attuned. They all have 1579 01:24:52.680 --> 01:24:56.239 all the ancient stories, whether it's the Hebrew stories of 1580 01:24:56.279 --> 01:24:58.800 the Bible, where the stories of the Sumerians or the 1581 01:24:58.840 --> 01:25:03.920 Egyptians Spotamians, they all have vivid stories of them interacting 1582 01:25:04.039 --> 01:25:10.840 with entities that they called gods and building edifices for them, 1583 01:25:10.840 --> 01:25:13.680 and learning things from them and worshiping them most importantly. 1584 01:25:14.479 --> 01:25:17.079 But of course, today, you know, we don't believe any 1585 01:25:17.079 --> 01:25:20.119 of that. We're more focused, at least as far as 1586 01:25:20.119 --> 01:25:22.520 the leadership of this world is concerned. We're focused on 1587 01:25:22.880 --> 01:25:26.119 the scientific aspect that you know, we can explain things 1588 01:25:26.159 --> 01:25:29.359 through the Big Bang and evolution and so forth, and 1589 01:25:29.399 --> 01:25:33.199 so on and we've kind of left spirituality behind, and 1590 01:25:33.279 --> 01:25:36.439 we in our modern man we look back at spirituality 1591 01:25:36.479 --> 01:25:38.800 as all those people were just primitive. They didn't know 1592 01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:41.640 what they were doing, They couldn't explain things scientifically, so 1593 01:25:41.800 --> 01:25:47.800 they just ascribed everything to the gods. But as we 1594 01:25:47.880 --> 01:25:51.960 look at that, most people are still spiritual, even if 1595 01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:55.720 they've been you know, educated or indoctrinated by our system 1596 01:25:56.119 --> 01:25:58.640 to not believe in it. You can't get rid of 1597 01:25:58.640 --> 01:26:02.800 that core of spirituality. So the question is why were 1598 01:26:02.840 --> 01:26:06.640 people in the past more spiritual than we are now? 1599 01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:11.600 What's the difference? And in researching that, that's how I 1600 01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:14.920 got into the whole speed of light thing. And so 1601 01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:18.000 I want to get into some physics around the speed 1602 01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:21.960 of light and how it affects the spiritual realm. But 1603 01:26:21.960 --> 01:26:23.039 before I do, I want to just give you a 1604 01:26:23.079 --> 01:26:26.000 chance to make any comments. Before I dive into into 1605 01:26:26.039 --> 01:26:28.159 all the physical, the physics and stuff like that. 1606 01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:34.239 I've always wondered about the abilities that our ancient ancestors 1607 01:26:34.359 --> 01:26:38.640 had compared to what we are working with now. The 1608 01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:43.039 research and everything that's been uncovered so far and continues 1609 01:26:43.119 --> 01:26:48.159 to be uncovered about the possible consciousness abilities of our 1610 01:26:48.199 --> 01:26:52.840 ancient ancestors seems to be more and more incredible as 1611 01:26:52.880 --> 01:26:56.159 we learn more and more about them, the possibilities that 1612 01:26:56.199 --> 01:27:01.600 we could have even used consciousness abilities to affect matter, 1613 01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:06.279 levitate stones, things of this nature. I've always been interested 1614 01:27:06.319 --> 01:27:10.000 in this, and there's many different theories as to why 1615 01:27:10.039 --> 01:27:13.039 we could have lost that. Then this is a new 1616 01:27:13.079 --> 01:27:15.439 one for me, so I'm very interested in hearing more. 1617 01:27:16.560 --> 01:27:18.479 Yeah, yeah, totally, We're gonna get into that because I 1618 01:27:18.520 --> 01:27:20.479 have some interesting theories about that that I was spoken 1619 01:27:20.520 --> 01:27:23.319 about some other podcasts, and yeah, I want to talk 1620 01:27:23.319 --> 01:27:24.920 about on this show because some of the things we 1621 01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:28.359 were talking about, how we how these edifices were built, 1622 01:27:28.439 --> 01:27:32.039 you know, the pyramids, you know, go Beckley Teppe, some 1623 01:27:32.079 --> 01:27:33.920 of the things we see in Easter Island, you know, 1624 01:27:34.079 --> 01:27:37.920 in Peru and Chile. Very very interesting stuff. So let's 1625 01:27:37.960 --> 01:27:40.520 get into the physics of the speed of light. So, 1626 01:27:41.159 --> 01:27:44.840 up until about seventeen hundreds, it was the speed of 1627 01:27:44.840 --> 01:27:48.119 life was considered to be infinite, instantaneous. You know, you 1628 01:27:48.159 --> 01:27:52.680 see light boomits theory does not have a discrete speed. However, 1629 01:27:52.880 --> 01:27:55.479 in the seventeen hundred it's a Danish astronomer by the 1630 01:27:55.520 --> 01:27:58.720 name of Ole Romer when he was doing some observations 1631 01:27:58.720 --> 01:28:02.960 of the moods moons Ofupiter. He discovered through his observations 1632 01:28:03.000 --> 01:28:06.319 that the speed of light, that light dust actually does 1633 01:28:06.439 --> 01:28:11.039 have a discrete speed, and he published some papers on that, 1634 01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:13.760 and of course, as usual it was he was rejected 1635 01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:18.039 because anytime you go against the scientific community, you'd think 1636 01:28:18.079 --> 01:28:21.479 that they'd be more objective and open two new ideas. 1637 01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:24.199 But it turns out that scientists are just as dogmatic 1638 01:28:24.239 --> 01:28:27.279 as like you know, any red faced Bible belt preacher. 1639 01:28:27.319 --> 01:28:29.960 If you say something that does not agree with their 1640 01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:33.840 point of view, you get excommunicated essentially, And a lot 1641 01:28:33.880 --> 01:28:36.399 of the great scientists who have made these discoveries aren't 1642 01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:38.960 even acknowledged for what they did until they're long dead. 1643 01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:41.399 And it was the same thing with Ole Romer. He 1644 01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:44.000 was when he said, hey, light has a discreet speed. 1645 01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:45.359 The said, no way to do it. You're in saying 1646 01:28:45.479 --> 01:28:49.119 we know it's instantaneous, it's infinite. Off you go. And 1647 01:28:49.159 --> 01:28:52.079 of course after eventually they had to come be dragged 1648 01:28:52.119 --> 01:28:54.359 kicking and screaming to the idea that yes, light does 1649 01:28:54.399 --> 01:28:57.199 have a discrete speed, and that speed is about one 1650 01:28:57.279 --> 01:29:01.079 hundred and eighty six thousand miles per second. So what 1651 01:29:01.159 --> 01:29:06.279 that did was revolutionize physics because again, if the speed 1652 01:29:06.319 --> 01:29:08.399 of light is infinite, you can't measure it. You can't 1653 01:29:08.399 --> 01:29:10.439 measure light. But if it has a discrete speed one 1654 01:29:10.479 --> 01:29:13.279 hundred and eighty six thousand miles per second, then not 1655 01:29:13.399 --> 01:29:16.279 only can you measure it, you can apply the math, 1656 01:29:16.920 --> 01:29:18.840 the science of mathematics to it and you can start 1657 01:29:18.880 --> 01:29:23.680 making predictive models. And this discovery again revolutionized physics and 1658 01:29:23.920 --> 01:29:26.319 gave birth to where we are with our modern physics. 1659 01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:30.960 And great physicists like like Max Plank at Heisenberg and 1660 01:29:31.039 --> 01:29:32.920 Niel's Boor who gave us a model of the atom, 1661 01:29:33.319 --> 01:29:35.920 all of their physics and all the physics abnues today 1662 01:29:36.039 --> 01:29:39.600 is based on one they're actually being a speed of 1663 01:29:39.680 --> 01:29:44.239 light and two that speed of light being constant. Those 1664 01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:47.079 constants are what has allowed us to make the great 1665 01:29:47.119 --> 01:29:51.560 discoveries that we've made for the past few hundred years. 1666 01:29:52.399 --> 01:29:55.960 So fast forward to the late eighties. Nineteen eighty eight, 1667 01:29:56.439 --> 01:30:00.199 two researchers to Australian physicists by the name of Very 1668 01:30:00.239 --> 01:30:03.560 setter Field in Trevor Norman. They published a paper with 1669 01:30:04.239 --> 01:30:07.640 discovery with their discovery that the speed of light was 1670 01:30:07.680 --> 01:30:10.319 in fact not a constant. Not only is it not 1671 01:30:10.399 --> 01:30:15.439 a constant, it's slowing down in very minute increments, not 1672 01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:18.279 that you'd notice in your day to day life, but small. 1673 01:30:18.359 --> 01:30:23.720 But it is being done predictably and logarithmically, which means 1674 01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:26.359 you could almost say exponentially. So the further you go 1675 01:30:26.439 --> 01:30:30.560 in time and either direction, the speed of light is 1676 01:30:31.479 --> 01:30:35.439 vastly increases or decreases, be it past or present. So 1677 01:30:36.199 --> 01:30:38.479 again it's it's not something like you would say, tomorrow, 1678 01:30:38.640 --> 01:30:40.319 the speed of light seems slower, you would notice it. 1679 01:30:40.319 --> 01:30:42.960 It's very very small amounts, but you can predict it 1680 01:30:43.079 --> 01:30:46.640 because it's predictable and steady and steady in what they've noticed. 1681 01:30:48.359 --> 01:30:52.399 You can use that to start extrapolating some positions. So again, 1682 01:30:52.520 --> 01:30:56.359 when Setterfield and Norman came out with this discovery, you know, 1683 01:30:56.399 --> 01:30:58.920 scientists reject the scientific community rejected it, I think for 1684 01:30:58.960 --> 01:31:01.439 a couple of reasons. One because again it went against 1685 01:31:02.119 --> 01:31:05.039 the established, the established idea that the speed of light 1686 01:31:05.159 --> 01:31:08.560 was constant. And also because Cedterfield and Norman were Christians 1687 01:31:08.600 --> 01:31:12.199 and they came to some conclusions based on their discovery 1688 01:31:12.239 --> 01:31:14.800 that didn't really sit well with the secular of scientific community. 1689 01:31:15.199 --> 01:31:19.920 But eventually they acknowledged it. Now, they didn't acknowledge it 1690 01:31:20.359 --> 01:31:24.720 publicly because or dramatically, but they should have because this 1691 01:31:24.920 --> 01:31:28.159 should have been one of the greatest discoveries in the 1692 01:31:28.239 --> 01:31:29.479 last couple hundred years. 1693 01:31:29.800 --> 01:31:30.359 Because with the. 1694 01:31:30.359 --> 01:31:33.720 Speed of light is not a constant, it changes everything 1695 01:31:33.720 --> 01:31:37.039 we know about physics. Now, you can google us on 1696 01:31:37.079 --> 01:31:39.119 your own. You can google speed of light slowing down 1697 01:31:39.119 --> 01:31:41.960 and you will find articles acknowledging that, yes, it is 1698 01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:45.560 slowing down. But the scientific community basically attributes it to 1699 01:31:45.840 --> 01:31:50.079 a I think it's a Russian physicist in the late nineties, 1700 01:31:50.119 --> 01:31:52.439 so ten years later. So they acknowledge it ten years 1701 01:31:52.439 --> 01:31:54.920 after Setterfield and Norman, and they don't give them any credit. 1702 01:31:55.479 --> 01:31:59.079 But if your listeners google now was specifically google speed 1703 01:31:59.159 --> 01:32:02.039 of light slowing down and then type in Cetterfield, then 1704 01:32:02.039 --> 01:32:05.000 they'll get the work back from nineteen eighty eight. So 1705 01:32:05.520 --> 01:32:08.800 why isn't this a bigger story? Why wasn't the fact 1706 01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:11.079 that our what we know about physics for the last 1707 01:32:11.079 --> 01:32:14.479 three hundred years needs to change. Well again, we're going 1708 01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:16.920 to get into that, but before we do, I just 1709 01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:18.720 want to talk about some of the effects that this 1710 01:32:18.760 --> 01:32:22.000 would have. So if the speed of light slowing down. 1711 01:32:22.439 --> 01:32:25.359 Then that means that next year, in twenty twenty five, 1712 01:32:25.479 --> 01:32:27.720 the speed of light will be minutely slower than it 1713 01:32:27.760 --> 01:32:30.760 is this year in twenty twenty four. Okay, makes sense, 1714 01:32:31.319 --> 01:32:34.199 which would also mean that last year, twenty twenty three, 1715 01:32:34.520 --> 01:32:37.239 the speed of light was a little bit faster. So 1716 01:32:37.279 --> 01:32:39.159 if it it was slower in the future, then it 1717 01:32:39.199 --> 01:32:40.079 was faster in the past. 1718 01:32:40.279 --> 01:32:40.600 Okay. 1719 01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:43.800 Again on the short term, not noticeable. We go back 1720 01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:48.159 one hundred years to nineteen twenty four, you probably wouldn't 1721 01:32:48.159 --> 01:32:50.960 notice it. Your grandparents are great grandparents, wouldn't have said, 1722 01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:52.960 you know, what things seem the speed of light seems faster. 1723 01:32:53.279 --> 01:32:57.920 They wouldn't notice it. But again it the speed moves 1724 01:32:57.960 --> 01:33:01.319 logarithmically and in an exponential so the further you go 1725 01:33:01.479 --> 01:33:06.000 back or forward, the more dramatic the speed is. So 1726 01:33:06.119 --> 01:33:08.920 some scientists who have studied this, they have postulated that 1727 01:33:09.079 --> 01:33:12.960 if the increase or regression of the speed of light 1728 01:33:13.039 --> 01:33:15.000 is constant, then if you were to go back, say 1729 01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:18.520 two thousand years to the first century, with you know, 1730 01:33:18.600 --> 01:33:21.039 the time that Jesus walked the Earth, the speed of 1731 01:33:21.119 --> 01:33:23.359 light would have been one hundred times faster than it 1732 01:33:23.399 --> 01:33:27.119 is today. What would that have meant. Well, to really 1733 01:33:27.159 --> 01:33:30.399 see the dramatic effects of what it might might have been, 1734 01:33:30.439 --> 01:33:32.399 let's go back even further to what we call the 1735 01:33:32.439 --> 01:33:35.640 ancient times. If you went back about eight thousand years, 1736 01:33:36.680 --> 01:33:40.199 the speed of light, if it was, if the increasing 1737 01:33:40.760 --> 01:33:43.640 degradation were constant, the speed of light could have been 1738 01:33:43.720 --> 01:33:47.920 up to ten thousand times faster eight thousand years ago. 1739 01:33:49.359 --> 01:33:51.199 Now there's some reasons to believe that maybe it wasn't 1740 01:33:51.319 --> 01:33:54.399 quite that it wasn't quite that fast. Then we'll talk 1741 01:33:54.399 --> 01:33:56.880 about that. But let's just say the speed of light 1742 01:33:57.000 --> 01:34:00.199 was many, many times faster, thousands of times faster. That 1743 01:34:00.199 --> 01:34:02.479 means that in the period of times we consider the 1744 01:34:02.520 --> 01:34:07.880 ancient world, this world would have been much different because 1745 01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:12.279 not only does the speed of light affect our physical world, 1746 01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:17.279 the speed that electrons spin around the atoms been around 1747 01:34:17.319 --> 01:34:22.680 the nucleus of an atom, which of course basically it 1748 01:34:22.800 --> 01:34:26.439 dictates the level of electromagnetic force that gives us the 1749 01:34:26.479 --> 01:34:29.880 illusion of our world being solid and the materials that 1750 01:34:29.920 --> 01:34:32.279 we deal with in the physical world being solid. I 1751 01:34:32.319 --> 01:34:34.439 think could we have talked about this a little on 1752 01:34:34.439 --> 01:34:36.319 the last time I was on. But you know, the 1753 01:34:36.720 --> 01:34:39.159 atom is mostly empty space is ninety nine point nine 1754 01:34:39.199 --> 01:34:43.800 percent empty space. The electron spins around the nucleus at 1755 01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:48.239 a rate of a radius of excuse me, a ratio 1756 01:34:48.520 --> 01:34:50.840 of about one hundred thousand and one. So if you 1757 01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:52.880 were if you can make a nucleus of an atom 1758 01:34:53.199 --> 01:34:56.520 enlarger to the size of a base ball, the electrons 1759 01:34:56.520 --> 01:35:00.920 will be orbiting like seven miles away of its empty space. 1760 01:35:01.079 --> 01:35:02.760 The reason that you know this table in front of 1761 01:35:02.760 --> 01:35:05.399 me seems solid, that you and I feel solid, is 1762 01:35:05.439 --> 01:35:09.079 because the electron is negatively charged and it creates an 1763 01:35:09.079 --> 01:35:12.960 electromagnetic force, and that electromagnetic force is so strong when 1764 01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:15.319 you have trillions of atoms that make up our bodies 1765 01:35:15.359 --> 01:35:18.079 and every material, all the material in the physical world 1766 01:35:18.079 --> 01:35:21.000 around us. When when those two negative forces come together, 1767 01:35:21.479 --> 01:35:23.319 you know they repel each other, which gives us the 1768 01:35:23.319 --> 01:35:27.000 illusion of solidity. But if the speed of light was faster, 1769 01:35:27.920 --> 01:35:30.640 that they would have been spinning faster, that electromagnetic field 1770 01:35:30.800 --> 01:35:34.119 would be even stronger, so we would have been Humans 1771 01:35:34.159 --> 01:35:37.840 would have been stronger, more durable, everything would have been 1772 01:35:37.880 --> 01:35:41.079 more solid. Colors probably would have been more vivid. There's 1773 01:35:41.159 --> 01:35:43.920 all kinds of physical things that would have been different, 1774 01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:46.880 and physicists really get into this and it's really fascinating stuff. 1775 01:35:47.119 --> 01:35:48.920 But what I want to focus on is how it 1776 01:35:48.960 --> 01:35:53.520 would have affected us mentally. Because our minds our brains, 1777 01:35:53.920 --> 01:35:57.079 but our thoughts are electric. You go to a hospital, 1778 01:35:57.159 --> 01:35:58.880 it hooks you up to an EKG to measure your 1779 01:35:58.880 --> 01:36:01.960 brain waves. Their measure during the electricity that happens when 1780 01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:05.079 you think. Every thought that we have is an electric impulse. 1781 01:36:05.880 --> 01:36:10.520 So in our in our brains, there are cells called neurons, 1782 01:36:10.840 --> 01:36:13.720 and the neurons are dendrites and axioms. The dendrites they 1783 01:36:13.760 --> 01:36:15.359 kind of look like trees. If I'm holding my hand 1784 01:36:15.439 --> 01:36:17.520 up now, we see like the stem of the dendrite 1785 01:36:17.560 --> 01:36:20.079 and then it branches off. And the way when we 1786 01:36:20.119 --> 01:36:23.479 have a thought, those two dendrites, an electric pulse goes 1787 01:36:23.479 --> 01:36:25.560 between them. They don't touch each other. A little bit 1788 01:36:25.560 --> 01:36:28.960 of electricity passes between the two and that's how we 1789 01:36:29.119 --> 01:36:32.399 have our thought processes. So if the speed of light 1790 01:36:32.680 --> 01:36:35.279 was thousands of times faster, and that means that that 1791 01:36:35.359 --> 01:36:39.239 electric pulse between our dendrites would have been flowing thousands 1792 01:36:39.279 --> 01:36:42.960 of times faster, meaning our thoughts would have been processed 1793 01:36:43.239 --> 01:36:46.680 thousands of times faster, So we would have been far 1794 01:36:46.760 --> 01:36:49.319 more intelligent than we are today, we would have been 1795 01:36:49.359 --> 01:36:52.640 way smarter. Because we use that terminology today when we 1796 01:36:52.680 --> 01:36:55.600 say someone is not very smart, what do we say. 1797 01:36:55.640 --> 01:36:57.560 We say, well, he's kind of slow or she's slow, 1798 01:36:58.199 --> 01:37:00.720 as opposed to if someone is really smart, Oh he's quick, 1799 01:37:01.039 --> 01:37:03.800 he's quick witted. So the faster you think, the more, 1800 01:37:04.039 --> 01:37:07.159 the faster you process your thoughts, the more intelligent you are. 1801 01:37:07.640 --> 01:37:10.600 So if this theory is true, and again it's it's 1802 01:37:10.640 --> 01:37:13.640 it's scientifically, it's been proven, it's you can research it 1803 01:37:13.680 --> 01:37:17.720 pretty easily, we would have been much smarter in the past. 1804 01:37:18.199 --> 01:37:21.359 This might could explain why we were human beings in 1805 01:37:21.399 --> 01:37:23.840 the past and the ancient times were able to understand 1806 01:37:24.159 --> 01:37:28.680 things that we're still discovering about astronomy, about physics, about 1807 01:37:28.720 --> 01:37:32.960 the spiritual world. So my postulation is that if we 1808 01:37:32.960 --> 01:37:36.399 were able to process thoughts thousands of times faster, our 1809 01:37:36.479 --> 01:37:40.159 perceptions would have been thousands of times sharper. What if 1810 01:37:40.399 --> 01:37:44.199 we could have perceived the spiritual realm much more than 1811 01:37:44.199 --> 01:37:47.880 we're perceiving it now. Maybe the reason that these ancients 1812 01:37:48.119 --> 01:37:51.279 believed and worshiped these gods which we you know, the Elohem, 1813 01:37:51.399 --> 01:37:54.760 they would fallen Elohem. According to the biblical narrative was 1814 01:37:54.800 --> 01:37:58.800 because they could actually perceive them, they could see them, 1815 01:37:58.960 --> 01:38:03.279 they could interact with them, and why can't we do 1816 01:38:03.319 --> 01:38:06.159 that today? Well, because, frankly, when we're a lot dumber 1817 01:38:06.680 --> 01:38:10.920 than our ancient ancestors, we think we're smarter because we 1818 01:38:11.000 --> 01:38:13.600 have different toys. You know, we have our iPads and 1819 01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:16.920 computers and teslas and all that, which is fine, and 1820 01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:20.159 they didn't. They said, well, they lived in stone buildings 1821 01:38:20.159 --> 01:38:23.279 and huts and whatnot. Why didn't they have, you know, 1822 01:38:23.359 --> 01:38:28.000 computers and cars. My theory on that is because they 1823 01:38:28.079 --> 01:38:31.079 knew where they should be focused. They were more focused 1824 01:38:31.119 --> 01:38:34.560 on the spiritual realm. They weren'ts focused on our physical 1825 01:38:34.560 --> 01:38:38.359 realm because they knew that the true power, the true 1826 01:38:38.439 --> 01:38:41.880 insight into this world, the true understanding, was in the 1827 01:38:41.920 --> 01:38:45.720 spiritual realm, So that's what they were focused on. That said, 1828 01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:48.119 I'm sure you probably had on your show folks who've 1829 01:38:48.159 --> 01:38:50.600 talked about how much more advanced they might have been, 1830 01:38:50.680 --> 01:38:53.319 how much they might have had different sources of energy 1831 01:38:53.960 --> 01:38:56.720 and different types of civilizations that just may have been 1832 01:38:57.159 --> 01:39:01.399 just destroyed over time. But I think that this So 1833 01:39:01.520 --> 01:39:05.199 I'm going to conclude this section by saying, if this 1834 01:39:05.239 --> 01:39:08.760 theory is correct. The ancients were much smarter than we 1835 01:39:08.760 --> 01:39:11.279 were than we are. They had a much better understanding 1836 01:39:11.279 --> 01:39:14.039 of our world, and they had a much better perspective 1837 01:39:14.359 --> 01:39:18.319 on the spiritual realm, and they interacted with spiritual beings. 1838 01:39:19.560 --> 01:39:23.119 I can see how that would be very possible. Now, 1839 01:39:23.199 --> 01:39:26.600 do you think that the speed of light could possibly 1840 01:39:26.680 --> 01:39:32.760 have a correlation to the lifespans of our ancient ancestors? 1841 01:39:33.119 --> 01:39:34.800 If you look at things like the. 1842 01:39:34.800 --> 01:39:40.079 Sumerian Kings list, if the translations are even correct on there, 1843 01:39:40.720 --> 01:39:47.000 that these beings lived for thousands of years at times. Now, 1844 01:39:47.039 --> 01:39:50.680 that seems like a lot. But again, if we're translating 1845 01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:56.279 and interpreting these things correctly, it would seem that our 1846 01:39:56.319 --> 01:40:01.960 ancestors have been documented to have had very long life spans. 1847 01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:04.239 Do you think that there's any correlations there? 1848 01:40:05.119 --> 01:40:07.000 Yeah, I believe it. I believe there is a direct 1849 01:40:07.000 --> 01:40:10.600 correlation because again, with as I said before, with the 1850 01:40:10.640 --> 01:40:16.119 speed of light dictating the physical structure of everything, our 1851 01:40:16.159 --> 01:40:19.119 bodies would have been more durable, they would have been denser, 1852 01:40:19.840 --> 01:40:22.039 they would have I think we would have been bigger 1853 01:40:22.079 --> 01:40:23.600 and stronger. I think we would have been much we 1854 01:40:23.640 --> 01:40:28.239 would have been taller, we would have lived longer, and yeah, 1855 01:40:28.239 --> 01:40:30.399 and then we would have been more intelligent. So you know, 1856 01:40:30.479 --> 01:40:33.399 in the biblical narrative you see that people living you know, 1857 01:40:33.720 --> 01:40:37.079 an average of six seven, eight hundred years, and that 1858 01:40:37.079 --> 01:40:40.119 would make sense. If our bodies were more durable, then 1859 01:40:40.159 --> 01:40:42.640 we would have would we would not have been as 1860 01:40:42.720 --> 01:40:45.720 subject to as the degradation would have been much slower, 1861 01:40:46.760 --> 01:40:49.920 and it would have been taller, people would have been bigger. 1862 01:40:49.960 --> 01:40:52.520 And there's there are some extra biblical textas state that 1863 01:40:52.720 --> 01:40:56.159 Stay said Noah, who was obviously you know in the Antidiluvian, 1864 01:40:56.520 --> 01:40:59.239 the pre flood period, that he was about ten feet tall. 1865 01:40:59.840 --> 01:41:01.960 Now that was kind of the average. But of course 1866 01:41:01.960 --> 01:41:03.399 then you go back a little further and you have 1867 01:41:03.560 --> 01:41:07.479 the entities called the Nephelim, which were the the the 1868 01:41:07.479 --> 01:41:12.199 progeny of fallen Eloheim having intercourse with women, and they 1869 01:41:12.199 --> 01:41:16.159 were considered giants. So if if the average human was 1870 01:41:16.199 --> 01:41:18.920 about ten feet tall, a giant to them would have 1871 01:41:18.920 --> 01:41:20.880 had to have been, you know, much taller than that. 1872 01:41:21.039 --> 01:41:25.920 So that's so I think that's really interesting there. So 1873 01:41:26.399 --> 01:41:28.079 I do believe, yeah, we would have been longer lived, 1874 01:41:28.079 --> 01:41:29.800 we would have been much more durable. I think we 1875 01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:33.439 would have again been much longer lived, and I think 1876 01:41:33.439 --> 01:41:36.880 we would have had abilities that we don't currently have. 1877 01:41:37.600 --> 01:41:39.960 One theory I find really fascinating that's not directly from 1878 01:41:39.960 --> 01:41:44.239 the Bible. It's actually something I heard from another another podcaster, 1879 01:41:45.600 --> 01:41:49.239 but I think it has some Merit is that before 1880 01:41:49.960 --> 01:41:52.239 the incident at the Tower of Babel, we know the 1881 01:41:52.239 --> 01:41:54.880 story of you know, at the Tower of Babel, you 1882 01:41:54.920 --> 01:41:59.319 had Nimrod, who was the post flood leader of humanity. 1883 01:41:59.319 --> 01:42:02.319 He was also in the Bible says he became a 1884 01:42:02.359 --> 01:42:05.600 ghibbor orhem, which is one of the titles of a nephelin, 1885 01:42:05.680 --> 01:42:09.920 meaning that he was altered somehow to become this spiritual human, 1886 01:42:09.960 --> 01:42:13.520 the spiritual human hybrid. He built a Tower of Babel, 1887 01:42:13.840 --> 01:42:16.720 which was intended to reach to heaven, to invade the 1888 01:42:16.720 --> 01:42:20.800 spiritual realm, and as a result of this, God decided 1889 01:42:20.840 --> 01:42:23.079 to confuse the languages of people so that they would 1890 01:42:23.079 --> 01:42:27.479 scatter and not be able to to redo this because 1891 01:42:27.479 --> 01:42:30.840 it says that if Jehovah had not intervened, they would 1892 01:42:30.840 --> 01:42:33.960 have succeeded in creating this tower that would have allowed 1893 01:42:33.960 --> 01:42:36.119 them basically a stargate that would have allowed them to 1894 01:42:36.119 --> 01:42:41.239 go into the heavens. What this podcaster said was her theory, 1895 01:42:41.279 --> 01:42:44.600 and again I think it has merit is that before Babel, 1896 01:42:45.039 --> 01:42:49.600 we didn't communicate verbally, we didn't use sounds to communicate. 1897 01:42:49.720 --> 01:42:53.960 We communicated telepathically. We could hear each other's thoughts. So 1898 01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:56.720 if you have again speed of light thousands of times faster, 1899 01:42:56.960 --> 01:43:00.640 our brains thousands of times faster, our intuition thousands of 1900 01:43:00.720 --> 01:43:02.520 times faster, it will make sense that we could maybe 1901 01:43:02.600 --> 01:43:05.239 hear each other's thoughts. I mean, you have people today 1902 01:43:05.680 --> 01:43:09.920 who who have really good intuition and they can kind 1903 01:43:09.960 --> 01:43:11.720 of say, hey, you know what I think. I can 1904 01:43:11.760 --> 01:43:13.600 tell what kind of mood you're in, or things like that. 1905 01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:16.039 You know, my wife and I we can kind of 1906 01:43:16.039 --> 01:43:18.039 tell each other's moods without speaking to each other because 1907 01:43:18.079 --> 01:43:19.760 you know, we've been around each other and we're in sync. 1908 01:43:20.840 --> 01:43:23.800 But imagine that thousands of times stronger to where it's 1909 01:43:23.840 --> 01:43:26.680 more than just empathy. You can actually hear thoughts instead 1910 01:43:26.720 --> 01:43:28.239 of saying, I can tell you're in a bad mood, 1911 01:43:28.399 --> 01:43:30.159 so I can tell why you're in a bad mood. 1912 01:43:30.520 --> 01:43:33.479 You had a bad day because somebody did X, Y 1913 01:43:33.520 --> 01:43:37.039 and Z to you. So again you multiply that thousands 1914 01:43:37.079 --> 01:43:42.239 of times, we're we're communicating intimately through our thoughts, and 1915 01:43:42.359 --> 01:43:47.199 but sounds were used instead to move things around. We 1916 01:43:47.319 --> 01:43:51.119 were in the biblical narrative. How did Jehovah bring about 1917 01:43:51.119 --> 01:43:55.840 the physical realm? He spoke it into existence. He used words. Words. 1918 01:43:55.880 --> 01:43:59.600 What are words? Words are vibrations. Words are ordered to 1919 01:43:59.680 --> 01:44:03.000 vibrate their vibrations in a specific order. Now, before you 1920 01:44:03.039 --> 01:44:04.960 think that sounds a little too woo woo for you, 1921 01:44:06.079 --> 01:44:07.520 keep in mind that when you get down to the 1922 01:44:07.520 --> 01:44:11.079 sub atomic level, the parts of the atom that are 1923 01:44:11.159 --> 01:44:14.880 actually actually have substantive weights because electron has inferred weight. 1924 01:44:15.039 --> 01:44:16.880 But the protons and the neutrons, and when you get 1925 01:44:16.920 --> 01:44:19.960 down to their building blocks, the building blocks of the 1926 01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:26.960 proton and neutron are called quarks. Quarks are basically vibrations. Again, 1927 01:44:27.039 --> 01:44:29.800 it's just physics. You can look secular physics, you can 1928 01:44:29.840 --> 01:44:33.239 look it up. So what so the building blocks of 1929 01:44:33.279 --> 01:44:37.399 our physical world are vibrations and ordered vibrations, because you 1930 01:44:37.399 --> 01:44:40.199 know we have everything is it's ordered, you know every 1931 01:44:40.279 --> 01:44:43.840 you know, there's symmetry that's ordered throughout throughout the physical universe. 1932 01:44:44.640 --> 01:44:47.279 So if everything is made of vibrations, then it totally 1933 01:44:47.279 --> 01:44:52.399 makes sense that they would come into being by someone speaking, 1934 01:44:52.479 --> 01:44:55.560 because what would you call ordered vibrations but speaking or 1935 01:44:55.880 --> 01:44:59.840 in fact a song. The first chapter of Genesis is 1936 01:44:59.880 --> 01:45:03.000 a songs in Stanzas, so you could to technically say 1937 01:45:03.000 --> 01:45:07.239 that Jehovah sang this well into existence. The point is 1938 01:45:07.279 --> 01:45:14.199 that words, vibrations, singing is used to manipulate matter. So 1939 01:45:14.720 --> 01:45:17.880 if when we look at the Pyramids, for example, you 1940 01:45:17.960 --> 01:45:20.079 have these heavy stone blocks and people are saying, how 1941 01:45:20.520 --> 01:45:23.840 how could ancient people have done this? You know they're 1942 01:45:23.840 --> 01:45:26.840 where where the pyramids are situated curly in Egypt. They're 1943 01:45:26.880 --> 01:45:29.359 not anywhere near the quarry they would have been dug from. 1944 01:45:29.399 --> 01:45:32.439 They would have had to have dug these out hundreds 1945 01:45:32.520 --> 01:45:35.560 of miles away and then brought them to the area 1946 01:45:35.600 --> 01:45:39.920 in Cairo where they are. Well, if you can manipulate 1947 01:45:40.000 --> 01:45:43.239 matter through your words, through singing, through vibrations, you could 1948 01:45:43.239 --> 01:45:45.760 make them lighter or heavier and move them that way. 1949 01:45:46.920 --> 01:45:49.279 And so I think that makes more much more sense 1950 01:45:49.279 --> 01:45:51.880 than the idea of people physically drudging them here and there, 1951 01:45:51.880 --> 01:45:54.359 and they can't even explain how they did that. So 1952 01:45:54.880 --> 01:46:00.600 that whole theory is that we use vibrations to manipate matter, 1953 01:46:00.880 --> 01:46:05.319 but to communicate. We did that telepathically, and what the 1954 01:46:05.359 --> 01:46:08.600 Tower of Babel really was was Jehovah saying, okay, because 1955 01:46:08.840 --> 01:46:10.640 you guys were one mind, and it actually says that 1956 01:46:10.640 --> 01:46:13.600 in a Bible they were of one mind, and they 1957 01:46:13.640 --> 01:46:15.840 all decided to build this tower. Jehovah said, I'm not 1958 01:46:15.880 --> 01:46:17.720 gonna let you do that anymore. So I'm going to 1959 01:46:17.720 --> 01:46:20.840 confuse your languages. I'm going to take away your ability 1960 01:46:21.239 --> 01:46:23.319 to speak to each other telepathically. Now you have to 1961 01:46:23.399 --> 01:46:28.079 use this, you know, these guttural sounds to communicate. And 1962 01:46:28.159 --> 01:46:32.319 that's why that's how we separated. So that gives me 1963 01:46:32.359 --> 01:46:34.399 to my other point, which is that I don't think 1964 01:46:34.439 --> 01:46:36.239 this slowing down of the speed of light has been 1965 01:46:36.279 --> 01:46:39.319 in this once in a smooth delineation. I think there 1966 01:46:39.359 --> 01:46:43.640 have been dramatic decreases. I think that when at the 1967 01:46:43.680 --> 01:46:48.000 beginning of creation, when Jehovah walked with Man walked without him, 1968 01:46:48.000 --> 01:46:50.000 and Eve, they the speed of light was close to 1969 01:46:50.399 --> 01:46:54.720 was close to infinite. Because it says in the Book 1970 01:46:54.760 --> 01:46:57.479 of John the excuse me, the Gospel, not the Gospel 1971 01:46:57.520 --> 01:47:00.199 of John, excuse me, the epistles of the Apostles on 1972 01:47:00.640 --> 01:47:03.479 it says that Jehovah, God is light, and there is 1973 01:47:03.520 --> 01:47:06.079 no darkness in him at all, and he's one hundred 1974 01:47:06.119 --> 01:47:08.439 percent light. He's infinite light. So the light was at 1975 01:47:08.439 --> 01:47:11.479 its fastest that creation. Then you have original sin. I 1976 01:47:11.479 --> 01:47:16.439 think light slowed down dramatically because Jehovah got further from humanity. 1977 01:47:16.960 --> 01:47:20.239 Then at the flood, light slowed down dramatically again because 1978 01:47:20.279 --> 01:47:22.399 again this was Jehovah getting further away. So I think 1979 01:47:22.840 --> 01:47:25.680 so all that to say, the further Jehovah and Man 1980 01:47:25.760 --> 01:47:29.159 separate from each other, the slower light becomes. So I 1981 01:47:29.159 --> 01:47:31.720 think that at the Tower of bab Bell he got 1982 01:47:31.760 --> 01:47:35.800 even further from humanity through their from their rebellion, and 1983 01:47:35.920 --> 01:47:41.840 that that lessened their ability to communicate telepathically, and that 1984 01:47:41.840 --> 01:47:45.399 that rendered them into speaking languages. So again, no, these 1985 01:47:45.399 --> 01:47:47.800 these are these are theories or speculations. I'm not going 1986 01:47:47.840 --> 01:47:49.640 to say it's one hundred percent true, but I think 1987 01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:51.439 it's fascinating and I think it is a sense in 1988 01:47:51.439 --> 01:47:52.000 a big victory. 1989 01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:56.079 Yeah, it's very fascinating. I want to go back to 1990 01:47:56.199 --> 01:48:00.960 a second too, frequencies, and that gets into the nature 1991 01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:05.560 of what some people understand is magic. It also correlates 1992 01:48:05.600 --> 01:48:08.800 to everything that you're talking about, it's a tool. 1993 01:48:08.600 --> 01:48:09.840 For us that's here for us. 1994 01:48:09.920 --> 01:48:13.159 It's this energy that surrounds us at all time, and 1995 01:48:13.279 --> 01:48:15.960 we interact with it whether we realize it or not. 1996 01:48:16.079 --> 01:48:19.720 And there's some folks that become in a state of 1997 01:48:19.880 --> 01:48:23.680 fear and they call it evil and say that anyone 1998 01:48:23.720 --> 01:48:26.880 that does any type of magic is working with demons, 1999 01:48:26.920 --> 01:48:30.840 when in reality, a natural state that everyone works with. 2000 01:48:30.920 --> 01:48:34.560 If you say a prayer, you're using magic. It works 2001 01:48:34.560 --> 01:48:38.039 with these unseen forces and it has an effect on 2002 01:48:38.119 --> 01:48:42.239 our reality. It's but it's all about our intention behind it. 2003 01:48:42.319 --> 01:48:43.039 Would you agree? 2004 01:48:44.079 --> 01:48:47.880 I agree to one hundred percent. I understand why there 2005 01:48:47.880 --> 01:48:51.800 are certain people, especially you know, people who are religious 2006 01:48:51.840 --> 01:48:54.760 or faith based who kind of try to stay away 2007 01:48:54.760 --> 01:48:57.760 from that idea because there are a lot of folks 2008 01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:02.560 use it in separate from God's will to do things 2009 01:49:02.560 --> 01:49:05.199 that are not good. But that I think they're throwing 2010 01:49:05.199 --> 01:49:07.159 the baby out with the bathwater when they do that, 2011 01:49:07.680 --> 01:49:11.520 because you have to understand that what we what you 2012 01:49:11.520 --> 01:49:14.000 can call magic, is actually the energy that comes from 2013 01:49:14.039 --> 01:49:17.239 the spiritual realm. The spiritual realm is again it's a 2014 01:49:17.279 --> 01:49:21.359 source of unlimited light Jehovah God. It says in the Bible. 2015 01:49:21.479 --> 01:49:23.920 As I just quoted before, God is light and there 2016 01:49:23.960 --> 01:49:27.039 is no darkness in him at all. Light is energy, 2017 01:49:28.479 --> 01:49:30.880 and that energy can be used. And as you said, 2018 01:49:30.920 --> 01:49:33.159 when we pray, what are we doing. We are using 2019 01:49:33.199 --> 01:49:36.399 our words to interact with the spiritual realm in order 2020 01:49:36.439 --> 01:49:39.960 to have some type of physical effect on this earth. 2021 01:49:40.560 --> 01:49:44.720 That is no different in principle than someone who is 2022 01:49:44.800 --> 01:49:47.880 conducting magic. The only difference is that when you are praying, 2023 01:49:48.239 --> 01:49:51.279 you are aligned with the will. If you're praying to God, 2024 01:49:51.319 --> 01:49:54.159 to Jehovah, you're praying in alignment with his will, which 2025 01:49:54.159 --> 01:49:57.279 means you're doing things his way. However, you can do 2026 01:49:57.319 --> 01:49:59.640 it a different way. You can tap into the spiritual 2027 01:49:59.680 --> 01:50:04.479 realm to do things that are not beneficial, and that 2028 01:50:04.680 --> 01:50:06.840 is something that we should you should definitely be definitely 2029 01:50:06.840 --> 01:50:11.039 be on guard for because we know we're humans. We 2030 01:50:11.119 --> 01:50:14.479 have very limited understanding we do we you know, we 2031 01:50:14.600 --> 01:50:17.399 live in you know, three, well technically four dimensions, you know, 2032 01:50:17.439 --> 01:50:21.520 the three spatial dimensions of length with and depth and 2033 01:50:21.680 --> 01:50:26.680 the physical dimension of time, whereas these spiritual entities they 2034 01:50:26.720 --> 01:50:29.439 live in as many as eleven dimensions. Again, it's just 2035 01:50:29.479 --> 01:50:33.840 scientific about the dimensions that we can't perceive like you know, 2036 01:50:33.880 --> 01:50:36.600 the strong of a nuclear force, electroal magnetism. These are 2037 01:50:37.319 --> 01:50:41.199 considered dimensions that we don't directly access or interact with, 2038 01:50:41.479 --> 01:50:44.920 but these entities would have to. They're much higher than us, 2039 01:50:45.079 --> 01:50:48.439 so they can can can do things in the spiritual 2040 01:50:48.479 --> 01:50:50.960 realm that we don't understand, so we need to yet 2041 01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:55.920 to be very very careful. But things like intensents having gratitude. 2042 01:50:56.319 --> 01:50:59.079 I mean, I've had you when I'm having a bad day, 2043 01:50:59.319 --> 01:51:00.800 you know what. The what I do, I just start 2044 01:51:00.840 --> 01:51:04.439 being thankful and having gratitude and it completely changes my day? 2045 01:51:05.520 --> 01:51:06.399 Is that magic? 2046 01:51:07.560 --> 01:51:11.279 What I'm doing is I'm speaking words in this realm 2047 01:51:11.319 --> 01:51:13.600 that resonate in the spiritual realm that actually have an 2048 01:51:13.600 --> 01:51:17.439 effect on me and I feel better about myself. I 2049 01:51:17.479 --> 01:51:20.479 have a good friend and my my best friend actually 2050 01:51:20.960 --> 01:51:23.520 his wife. She had cancer and unfortunately she did pass 2051 01:51:23.560 --> 01:51:25.880 away from it, but she was supposed to pass away 2052 01:51:25.880 --> 01:51:29.560 from it much sooner. But the reason that she lasted 2053 01:51:29.920 --> 01:51:32.560 longer was because she had such a great attitude. She 2054 01:51:32.640 --> 01:51:35.840 had a really positive attitude about everything, and the doctors 2055 01:51:35.840 --> 01:51:38.840 were marveled at the fact that she continued to live 2056 01:51:38.840 --> 01:51:42.439 as long as she did. But it was because her attitude, 2057 01:51:42.720 --> 01:51:47.479 her words, the affirmations that she gave herself into others 2058 01:51:48.039 --> 01:51:53.640 had a physical effect on her. And that's not evil, 2059 01:51:54.039 --> 01:51:56.840 It's nothing wrong with it. But what it is is 2060 01:51:56.960 --> 01:51:58.920 us interacting with the spiritual realm. And I think I 2061 01:51:58.960 --> 01:52:01.560 talked about this the last time was on is that 2062 01:52:01.960 --> 01:52:05.720 we have the words. Any type of any type of 2063 01:52:05.760 --> 01:52:09.199 spiritual interaction we have is done with words, the vibrations. 2064 01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:12.239 Whether it's spiritual warfare. If you're a Christian, you know 2065 01:52:12.239 --> 01:52:16.199 what spiritual warfare is all about. It's done with words. 2066 01:52:15.680 --> 01:52:19.520 In the Bible, and someone is going against a demon, 2067 01:52:19.640 --> 01:52:21.239 what do they do? Do they physically fight it? No, 2068 01:52:21.359 --> 01:52:23.760 they speak words. Jesus would say to the demon, come 2069 01:52:23.800 --> 01:52:27.359 out of him or her. When we pray, we're doing 2070 01:52:27.399 --> 01:52:31.720 spiritual warfare, we're speaking. We speak words because we're spiritual 2071 01:52:31.920 --> 01:52:35.279 human we're spiritual material hybrids. You know, the real you, 2072 01:52:35.560 --> 01:52:37.760 the real Chris is not this body I see in 2073 01:52:37.800 --> 01:52:40.399 front of me that's going to go away. The real 2074 01:52:40.439 --> 01:52:44.920 you is your your spirit, your soul, and that's eternal 2075 01:52:44.960 --> 01:52:48.520 because it's not physical. You know you can The real 2076 01:52:48.600 --> 01:52:51.920 you is again, is your thoughts, your emotions, your personality. 2077 01:52:52.359 --> 01:52:54.479 So we're all spiritual beings, so we have access to 2078 01:52:54.560 --> 01:52:57.039 the spiritual realm through our consciousness. That's really what the 2079 01:52:57.079 --> 01:53:01.000 spiritual realm is. It's a realm of pure consciousness, of 2080 01:53:01.039 --> 01:53:04.119 pure energy. We talked a little bit earlier about how 2081 01:53:04.119 --> 01:53:05.159 our thoughts are electric. 2082 01:53:05.600 --> 01:53:06.319 That's energy. 2083 01:53:07.279 --> 01:53:10.000 When someone dies, you know there's no more electricity happening 2084 01:53:10.119 --> 01:53:13.520 up there when you're alive. That are our brains are 2085 01:53:13.760 --> 01:53:17.439 You look at our brains not as where our thoughts originate, 2086 01:53:17.520 --> 01:53:20.760 but just as the vehicle literally through which we're thinking. 2087 01:53:21.439 --> 01:53:24.479 One of my mentors name is John lindhard Linhardt. He 2088 01:53:24.560 --> 01:53:27.199 has a great He has a company with a great 2089 01:53:27.239 --> 01:53:30.520 website called flowsas dot com. How do you recommend your 2090 01:53:30.600 --> 01:53:33.880 listeners go there? F L O C S S dot 2091 01:53:33.880 --> 01:53:36.439 com Like process, but flowsas. He teaches you how to 2092 01:53:36.479 --> 01:53:39.079 intentionally get into a state of what we call flow. 2093 01:53:39.439 --> 01:53:42.359 It's like when we use the term in the zone. 2094 01:53:42.359 --> 01:53:44.600 Like if you're a sports fan, you know you've seen 2095 01:53:44.640 --> 01:53:47.880 these these these circumstances were like you're watching a basketball 2096 01:53:47.920 --> 01:53:49.760 player and for whatever reason, he can't admit he's just 2097 01:53:49.840 --> 01:53:53.439 hitting shot after shot. He's in the zone a picture 2098 01:53:53.600 --> 01:53:56.319 in baseball throwing a no hitter. He's in the zone. 2099 01:53:56.399 --> 01:53:59.800 He is in the flow, and that happens under certain circumstances. 2100 01:54:00.079 --> 01:54:04.960 Flowsys dot Com teaches us how to get there intentionally anyway. 2101 01:54:05.359 --> 01:54:07.079 He John Lennard. 2102 01:54:06.920 --> 01:54:11.159 Uses this this this model called the car and driver model. 2103 01:54:11.359 --> 01:54:14.720 Whereas our brain is like a car, but our spirit, 2104 01:54:14.760 --> 01:54:18.439 our soul, our consciousness is a driver, so we can 2105 01:54:18.479 --> 01:54:21.239 tell it where to go. So it's just the vehicle 2106 01:54:21.880 --> 01:54:24.079 and we're in control of ten percent of it. Our 2107 01:54:24.079 --> 01:54:27.760 conscious mind. Our consciousness controls ten percent of our mind. 2108 01:54:28.000 --> 01:54:31.600 The other ninety percent, what we call the unconscious, is happening, 2109 01:54:31.680 --> 01:54:33.720 you know, outside of our control. It's just like in 2110 01:54:33.760 --> 01:54:37.119 your car. You know, the pistons going, the sparkplugs part 2111 01:54:37.239 --> 01:54:39.279 doing their thing. All that's happening behind the scenes. We're 2112 01:54:39.319 --> 01:54:41.760 controlled the steering wheel and the accelerator and all that. 2113 01:54:43.319 --> 01:54:45.119 So when people say we only use ten percent of 2114 01:54:45.159 --> 01:54:47.399 our brain, no that's not true. We use one hundred 2115 01:54:47.399 --> 01:54:49.479 percent of our brain. We're only in conscious control of 2116 01:54:49.560 --> 01:54:51.520 ten percent of it. The rest is happening in the background, 2117 01:54:51.560 --> 01:54:54.119 like you know, our eyes blinking, our heart beating. Our 2118 01:54:54.159 --> 01:54:56.079 mind controls all those things. Because you know, when you 2119 01:54:56.119 --> 01:54:59.079 get scared, what happens your hearts are beating faster. You 2120 01:54:59.119 --> 01:55:02.359 don't say, hey, heart, start start beating faster. No, our 2121 01:55:02.760 --> 01:55:05.680 unconsciousness is in control of that. So my whole point 2122 01:55:05.720 --> 01:55:09.600 in saying that is that this body we're driving is 2123 01:55:09.640 --> 01:55:13.359 the car. But when you, if you leave this body, 2124 01:55:13.439 --> 01:55:16.199 just like if you leave the car, you're still you. 2125 01:55:16.199 --> 01:55:17.800 You're just not in that vehicle anymore. 2126 01:55:18.680 --> 01:55:18.840 So. 2127 01:55:19.159 --> 01:55:23.039 The real you is spirit and because of that, you 2128 01:55:23.079 --> 01:55:26.239 can communicate in the spiritual realm. And again you do 2129 01:55:26.279 --> 01:55:28.560 that by prayers. You do that through your words. You 2130 01:55:28.600 --> 01:55:33.399 can speak affirmations to yourself, to your spouse, to your children. 2131 01:55:34.399 --> 01:55:35.960 We see this, it's not not just in the Bible, 2132 01:55:36.000 --> 01:55:39.199 but in other traditions where the father puts a blessing 2133 01:55:39.359 --> 01:55:43.359 on his sons and daughters and those blessings come true. 2134 01:55:44.239 --> 01:55:46.079 You know, as a father of two boys myself, as 2135 01:55:46.079 --> 01:55:49.000 soon as when my boys reach the age when are teenagers, 2136 01:55:49.039 --> 01:55:52.239 I'm going to speak a blessing on them. And I 2137 01:55:52.279 --> 01:55:54.920 have every confident, that confidence that blessing is going to 2138 01:55:55.000 --> 01:55:57.199 come true, not just because it says on the Bible, 2139 01:55:57.520 --> 01:56:00.239 which I believe in, but also because I think that 2140 01:56:01.520 --> 01:56:03.800 my words will have an effect on them. And I 2141 01:56:03.800 --> 01:56:06.640 speak affirmations to them all the time. I tell him 2142 01:56:06.840 --> 01:56:10.359 you are, you are smart, you are you are beautiful, 2143 01:56:10.720 --> 01:56:15.239 you are confident, you are valuable. And those words speak 2144 01:56:15.479 --> 01:56:19.439 life or they can speak death. You know, you may 2145 01:56:19.479 --> 01:56:22.319 have seen the experiment that a Japanese scientists that I 2146 01:56:22.319 --> 01:56:25.119 forget his name right now, but he talked. He did 2147 01:56:25.159 --> 01:56:29.119 his experiment where he used positive words and spoke them 2148 01:56:29.119 --> 01:56:30.119 into until. 2149 01:56:30.479 --> 01:56:32.239 The emotives experiments. 2150 01:56:32.319 --> 01:56:35.039 Yes, yes, yes, thank you for that. And when he 2151 01:56:35.119 --> 01:56:37.960 when he spoke words of encouragement and love, the water 2152 01:56:38.000 --> 01:56:41.079 made beautiful patterns. But when he did the opposite, spoke 2153 01:56:41.119 --> 01:56:44.920 you know, angry words, and it was chaotic, and so 2154 01:56:45.199 --> 01:56:48.800 you know that affects us. So all that to say 2155 01:56:49.000 --> 01:56:52.359 is that our words are powerful and they're spiritual, and 2156 01:56:52.399 --> 01:56:54.840 the more connected we are to the spiritual realm, you know, 2157 01:56:54.920 --> 01:56:58.119 the more power we have to do these things that 2158 01:56:58.199 --> 01:57:00.720 you know, some people can call magic, but I just 2159 01:57:00.720 --> 01:57:03.079 think it's being connected with the spiritual realm. But as 2160 01:57:03.119 --> 01:57:04.880 I said, you need to make sure you know what 2161 01:57:04.880 --> 01:57:07.359 you're doing because you can get in trouble if you to. 2162 01:57:07.520 --> 01:57:08.199 Do it the right way. 2163 01:57:08.880 --> 01:57:12.800 That also connects to our entertainment industry when it comes 2164 01:57:12.840 --> 01:57:15.840 to the music we listen to. Music is so very 2165 01:57:16.039 --> 01:57:20.640 powerful to the human emotion and experience, and it has 2166 01:57:20.680 --> 01:57:25.600 been so tainted and corrupted by those in power so 2167 01:57:25.680 --> 01:57:28.840 that it isn't such a powerful tool for us anymore. 2168 01:57:29.279 --> 01:57:32.560 And now all we have is the crappy pop and 2169 01:57:32.760 --> 01:57:35.960 rap in rock music that we have in this modern age. 2170 01:57:36.039 --> 01:57:39.560 That every once in a while you'll find some gems 2171 01:57:39.600 --> 01:57:43.399 out there that really stir some emotion for you, but overall, 2172 01:57:44.079 --> 01:57:48.279 they have stamped out the magic behind music, and I 2173 01:57:48.279 --> 01:57:53.640 think that is so incredibly powerful, and that's an untapped 2174 01:57:55.199 --> 01:57:59.359 resource that humanity still has yet to really discover, the 2175 01:57:59.439 --> 01:57:59.920 true potent. 2176 01:58:00.560 --> 01:58:03.640 I believe you are one hundred percent Rightty, I've done 2177 01:58:03.640 --> 01:58:06.199 some study into this, and you are. You couldn't be 2178 01:58:06.239 --> 01:58:08.960 more right. Our music has changed. I think in the 2179 01:58:09.079 --> 01:58:13.199 nineteen twenties or thirties they changed the frequency in which 2180 01:58:13.199 --> 01:58:15.880 people would tune their instruments. I think it was either 2181 01:58:15.920 --> 01:58:17.920 from from four you don't quote, be honest, I'm not 2182 01:58:17.960 --> 01:58:19.319 a musician, but I think it was like from something 2183 01:58:19.319 --> 01:58:23.279 in four thirty two to for something else, But there 2184 01:58:23.359 --> 01:58:26.359 was the initial frequency was the frequency they used in 2185 01:58:26.439 --> 01:58:31.760 classical music, Beethoven, you know, Chopine, of Brahms, these great 2186 01:58:33.600 --> 01:58:36.640 symphony musicians who would just make this incredible music that 2187 01:58:36.640 --> 01:58:39.560 would uplift you and just make you feel better. And 2188 01:58:39.640 --> 01:58:42.439 they change a frequency and then all and you know, 2189 01:58:42.680 --> 01:58:45.079 they changed the common frequency that which people would tune 2190 01:58:45.079 --> 01:58:47.960 their instruments. And now music just makes you feel either 2191 01:58:48.039 --> 01:58:52.399 very chaotic or over sexualized. That's really huge these days, 2192 01:58:52.800 --> 01:58:54.479 or or you know, or are very angry. 2193 01:58:54.479 --> 01:58:54.640 You know. 2194 01:58:54.720 --> 01:58:58.119 I grew up listening to rap music and I saw 2195 01:58:58.159 --> 01:58:58.760 the change. 2196 01:58:59.159 --> 01:59:01.880 Yeah, and especially with because it's a combination of the 2197 01:59:02.000 --> 01:59:05.960 lyrics and the music behind it that has the power. 2198 01:59:06.079 --> 01:59:07.840 Yeah, it's poetry. 2199 01:59:08.039 --> 01:59:09.880 When I was growing up, there were artists who were 2200 01:59:10.000 --> 01:59:12.319 very positive, you know. There was there was you know, 2201 01:59:12.520 --> 01:59:15.520 Bugget Down productions, Eric B and Rock Him, Public Enemy, 2202 01:59:15.680 --> 01:59:20.199 who were just talking about uplifting black people and uplifting 2203 01:59:20.199 --> 01:59:23.199 people who are downtrodden and having pride in yourself. And 2204 01:59:23.239 --> 01:59:25.399 then it switched over to gangster rep. And I'm not 2205 01:59:25.439 --> 01:59:26.840 gonna lie. I was into n w A at the 2206 01:59:26.840 --> 01:59:28.000 time because it was just because I grew up in 2207 01:59:28.119 --> 01:59:29.560 LA and that's where they were from, and so I 2208 01:59:29.600 --> 01:59:32.199 was into it. But it was a very different genre, 2209 01:59:32.920 --> 01:59:36.640 very different messaging. And now that's the dominant type. You 2210 01:59:36.640 --> 01:59:40.560 don't really hear very much positive, uplifting music on raps. 2211 01:59:40.600 --> 01:59:44.079 It's either very violent or very sexual or very materialistic. 2212 01:59:44.079 --> 01:59:47.840 It's either about money, about booty and hoes, or it's 2213 01:59:48.479 --> 01:59:52.560 about violence. Yeah, all those are very low vibrational things. 2214 01:59:52.600 --> 01:59:55.720 We're talking about vibrations, very low vibrational as opposed to 2215 01:59:55.760 --> 01:59:59.319 high vibrational. But then you put on some classical music. 2216 01:59:59.439 --> 02:00:02.239 You listen to you know, some some mozarts, you listen 2217 02:00:02.279 --> 02:00:05.840 to some Beethoven and something you feel better. Or even 2218 02:00:05.880 --> 02:00:09.399 if you go into just or just earlier music. You know, 2219 02:00:09.439 --> 02:00:12.199 some good jazz is tuned correctly, it can completely change 2220 02:00:12.199 --> 02:00:13.159 your mood for the better. 2221 02:00:13.600 --> 02:00:13.840 Yeah. 2222 02:00:14.520 --> 02:00:18.479 What I found interesting not only is music more chaotic 2223 02:00:18.520 --> 02:00:21.720 and lower vibrational, it's simpler. It's not complex. 2224 02:00:23.000 --> 02:00:23.279 Music. 2225 02:00:23.920 --> 02:00:26.000 What I would grow up listen to my parents, you know, 2226 02:00:26.039 --> 02:00:28.840 they love you know, bands like the OJ's and Earth 2227 02:00:28.880 --> 02:00:30.880 Wind and Fire. Their songs will be like the seven 2228 02:00:30.880 --> 02:00:33.880 eight minutes long. Now music is about two to three minutes. 2229 02:00:34.600 --> 02:00:37.199 There's mostly just a hook going over and over again, 2230 02:00:37.319 --> 02:00:41.239 a few changes there. So it's and what that is is. 2231 02:00:41.239 --> 02:00:43.640 And it's become a formula on top of that it's 2232 02:00:43.680 --> 02:00:47.000 been reused and recycled over and over again. 2233 02:00:48.359 --> 02:00:50.800 So I'll give you one of my theories on that, well, 2234 02:00:50.840 --> 02:00:54.800 two theories. One is hypnotic, because yeah, hypnotism is about repeating, 2235 02:00:55.279 --> 02:00:58.520 is just repetitive language. So I give you to it. It 2236 02:00:58.520 --> 02:01:00.800 gets you to a hypnotic state, in a theta state, 2237 02:01:00.960 --> 02:01:03.680 and that makes you very susceptible to what the message is. 2238 02:01:04.279 --> 02:01:07.359 And secondly, like you said, it's very repetitive and it's 2239 02:01:07.359 --> 02:01:10.920 also not original. Every song you hear, almost every song 2240 02:01:10.920 --> 02:01:13.239 you hear now sounds like a song that was made, 2241 02:01:13.319 --> 02:01:16.000 you know, ten, twenty thirty years ago. It's like, wait 2242 02:01:16.039 --> 02:01:17.760 a minute, I knew that I heard that song when 2243 02:01:17.760 --> 02:01:19.920 I was in my twenties. I mean, I'm in my 2244 02:01:20.319 --> 02:01:22.359 early fifties. Now, say I remember that song from the 2245 02:01:22.359 --> 02:01:25.000 eighties and nineties. Why is that same beat? And I 2246 02:01:25.560 --> 02:01:27.800 think it's the song I used to listen to when 2247 02:01:27.800 --> 02:01:29.000 I was a kid. I'm like, oh no, no, no, 2248 02:01:29.079 --> 02:01:31.600 someone just took that and sampled it. But the other 2249 02:01:31.640 --> 02:01:34.319 reason is that the lower vibrational you get, the less 2250 02:01:34.319 --> 02:01:40.359 creative you are. These entities, these fallen lohem once you 2251 02:01:40.359 --> 02:01:44.720 were So here's a principle. Once you are judged by God. 2252 02:01:45.279 --> 02:01:49.159 You no longer have free will, you no longer have creativity. 2253 02:01:50.319 --> 02:01:53.199 So the industries that we call you know, the devil, 2254 02:01:53.239 --> 02:01:55.840 Satan and all the other fallen angels, they've been judged. 2255 02:01:55.840 --> 02:01:59.560 They no longer have their own creativity. They can only 2256 02:01:59.640 --> 02:02:04.319 use a creativity that humanity provides to them. So you 2257 02:02:04.359 --> 02:02:08.079 can almost measure the state of the world by the 2258 02:02:08.199 --> 02:02:11.479 lessening of creativity. The more the world is aligned with 2259 02:02:11.680 --> 02:02:15.159 the darkness, with the dark forces, with the lower vibrational forces, 2260 02:02:15.279 --> 02:02:17.880 the less creative we're going to be. Because the lower 2261 02:02:17.960 --> 02:02:20.840 you get on a vibrational scale, the more you're aligned 2262 02:02:20.840 --> 02:02:24.199 with these entities that have no creativity, the less creativity 2263 02:02:24.439 --> 02:02:27.600 we will have. So I think that's why all music 2264 02:02:27.680 --> 02:02:31.479 is sounding the same, all movies have the same exactly. 2265 02:02:31.479 --> 02:02:33.359 I mean, if you watch a movie like Haven't I 2266 02:02:33.399 --> 02:02:36.319 Seen This before? All the same things there are very 2267 02:02:36.399 --> 02:02:38.960 it's very rare you see an innovative movie or an 2268 02:02:38.960 --> 02:02:42.239 innovative piece of music anymore. And those who are making 2269 02:02:42.279 --> 02:02:46.880 innovative movies and innovative music, they're relegated, you know, to 2270 02:02:46.880 --> 02:02:49.920 to to the I guess what you call alternative movies, 2271 02:02:49.920 --> 02:02:52.800 And you know, Indie movies are in alternative music. 2272 02:02:53.760 --> 02:02:57.800 And not only if what you're saying about the speed 2273 02:02:57.840 --> 02:03:01.800 of light is correct, but tech technology is having a 2274 02:03:01.880 --> 02:03:05.920 huge effect on people. And technology can be a wonderful thing, 2275 02:03:06.000 --> 02:03:10.079 but it's in the wrong hands, and it's unfortunately making 2276 02:03:10.119 --> 02:03:15.159 people stupider, more reliant on technology, less reliant on their 2277 02:03:15.199 --> 02:03:20.079 own creativity, especially when it comes to AI AI art, 2278 02:03:20.279 --> 02:03:25.000 some of the applications that are writing projects and doing 2279 02:03:25.000 --> 02:03:29.760 homework and writing books for people. It's causing detrimental problems 2280 02:03:29.800 --> 02:03:32.119 for our collective creativity. 2281 02:03:33.760 --> 02:03:36.239 It really is. I mean, as you said, if we 2282 02:03:36.439 --> 02:03:40.600 just use these these machines and these technology just as 2283 02:03:40.640 --> 02:03:43.279 a tool, great, But when we start relying on it 2284 02:03:43.399 --> 02:03:47.159 to think for us, that's a huge problem. You know, 2285 02:03:47.279 --> 02:03:50.680 the more time passes, the more that movie The Matrix 2286 02:03:50.880 --> 02:03:53.640 is just prophecy. Because with just one of the lines 2287 02:03:53.640 --> 02:03:55.800 where I think Agent Smith said to I think he's 2288 02:03:55.800 --> 02:03:57.920 talking to Morpheus, where he says, you know, once we 2289 02:03:58.000 --> 02:04:00.760 started thinking for you, that's what we decided we're going 2290 02:04:00.840 --> 02:04:04.880 to take you down. Now that said, I want to 2291 02:04:04.880 --> 02:04:07.439 make you very clear that I do not believe I 2292 02:04:07.720 --> 02:04:09.680 know that people like Elon Musk and some of the 2293 02:04:09.720 --> 02:04:11.760 others believe that eventually we'll get to the point where, 2294 02:04:11.840 --> 02:04:14.159 you know, we have like a terminator scenario where AI 2295 02:04:14.239 --> 02:04:16.439 becomes so smart that it starts thinking on its own 2296 02:04:16.560 --> 02:04:21.159 and it overthrows us. There's a limit to what AI 2297 02:04:21.239 --> 02:04:24.319 can do. I do not think that AI will ever 2298 02:04:24.560 --> 02:04:27.159 be sentient. Some people can disagree with me, and that's 2299 02:04:27.159 --> 02:04:30.520 totally fine. I'm open to hearing the argument. But as 2300 02:04:30.520 --> 02:04:33.079 far as I've seen, it only has a capability of 2301 02:04:33.319 --> 02:04:37.640 utilizing the information that exists. It cannot create information that 2302 02:04:37.800 --> 02:04:44.600 doesn't exist. That's just fundamental, and that's that's the difference 2303 02:04:44.640 --> 02:04:48.840 between AI and human I don't know, Chris, what you're 2304 02:04:48.840 --> 02:04:52.359 going to think next? Why because what you what you're 2305 02:04:52.399 --> 02:04:56.319 thinking next hasn't happened yet, right I can only I 2306 02:04:56.319 --> 02:04:58.840 only know the information about you that you've revealed to 2307 02:04:58.920 --> 02:05:01.279 me so far. And it's the same thing with AI. 2308 02:05:01.720 --> 02:05:05.600 AI can only manipulate information that already has so we 2309 02:05:05.640 --> 02:05:08.760 can use predictive modeling to you know, to make predictions 2310 02:05:08.800 --> 02:05:11.439 based on information, but it's the information that already exists. 2311 02:05:11.600 --> 02:05:15.600 It can't It doesn't know anything that doesn't exist. Yet 2312 02:05:15.800 --> 02:05:19.399 humanity we have the ability to think of things that 2313 02:05:19.560 --> 02:05:23.680 don't exist. I don't think Ai has that. And incidentally, 2314 02:05:23.680 --> 02:05:26.359 because I was talking to some friends with this over 2315 02:05:26.399 --> 02:05:30.000 the weekend, we were talking about whether or not God 2316 02:05:30.159 --> 02:05:32.159 knows what we're what we're going to think before we 2317 02:05:32.239 --> 02:05:34.399 think it, and there was an argument back and forth, 2318 02:05:34.399 --> 02:05:36.479 and I'd say it, but I think that No, I 2319 02:05:36.479 --> 02:05:38.760 don't think God knows what we're going to think before 2320 02:05:38.760 --> 02:05:42.000 we think it, because that information doesn't exist exist. God 2321 02:05:42.039 --> 02:05:45.000 doesn't know our choices until we make the choice. And 2322 02:05:45.119 --> 02:05:48.079 the verse in the Bible that I used to justify 2323 02:05:48.119 --> 02:05:52.880 this was when when Jehovah asked Abraham to sacrifice this 2324 02:05:53.000 --> 02:05:55.199 on Isaac. Now, he wasn't going to have him do that, 2325 02:05:55.239 --> 02:05:57.760 he was just he was testing his faith. And then 2326 02:05:57.800 --> 02:05:59.439 when Abraham said, okay, I'm gonna do it, he goes 2327 02:05:59.520 --> 02:06:00.880 up to the mouth and he takes Isaac up there 2328 02:06:00.920 --> 02:06:03.720 with him and he's about to sacrifice him, and Jehopa 2329 02:06:03.760 --> 02:06:07.000 say stop, don't do it, because now I know that 2330 02:06:07.079 --> 02:06:10.720 you're that you won't withhold anything from me because you 2331 02:06:10.720 --> 02:06:12.920 know you're willing to sacrifice. You are only sun for me. 2332 02:06:13.399 --> 02:06:15.840 But that we're saying now, I know that means that 2333 02:06:16.000 --> 02:06:20.159 before that he didn't know he wasn't sure Abraham's choice. 2334 02:06:20.159 --> 02:06:23.359 There are other examples in the Bible where it's clear 2335 02:06:23.399 --> 02:06:27.640 that God waits for our choices before he acts, so 2336 02:06:27.720 --> 02:06:29.439 he doesn't know that because that a infyface doesn't exist, 2337 02:06:29.439 --> 02:06:30.680 and that, by the way, and I'll let you let 2338 02:06:30.720 --> 02:06:32.279 you speak, I know you you're about to say something. 2339 02:06:32.880 --> 02:06:35.840 That also gets to one of the core issues that 2340 02:06:35.880 --> 02:06:39.720 people have with Christianity, which are the concept of a 2341 02:06:39.960 --> 02:06:42.079 just and loving God, which when they always say, well, 2342 02:06:42.119 --> 02:06:45.279 if God is just and loving, why doesn't he stop 2343 02:06:45.560 --> 02:06:48.199 evil before it happens? Why doesn't Why did he stop 2344 02:06:48.279 --> 02:06:50.279 Hitler before he became Hitler? Why did he you know, 2345 02:06:50.319 --> 02:06:55.119 stop Jeffrey don or Epstein or anyone else? Because he 2346 02:06:55.159 --> 02:06:58.079 could only God can only react to what we do 2347 02:06:58.119 --> 02:07:00.920 after he've made our choice, because he doesn't know our 2348 02:07:01.000 --> 02:07:03.199 choice before we make it. Because we have free will. 2349 02:07:03.079 --> 02:07:03.960 That's what I was gonna say. 2350 02:07:03.960 --> 02:07:06.560 Isn't that the whole point of free will is so 2351 02:07:06.640 --> 02:07:08.359 that we can make our own decisions. 2352 02:07:09.000 --> 02:07:12.159 Exactly If we didn't have free will, then we couldn't 2353 02:07:12.239 --> 02:07:14.800 choose to love God, we couldn't choose to be on 2354 02:07:14.840 --> 02:07:17.279 his side, and that's what he wanted from us. No, 2355 02:07:17.359 --> 02:07:19.279 why did he put the Tree of the Knowledge of 2356 02:07:19.319 --> 02:07:22.399 Good and Evil in the Garden of Eden, because that's 2357 02:07:22.399 --> 02:07:24.600 the only way he could have known whether or not 2358 02:07:24.640 --> 02:07:27.319 Adam and Eve would have truly followed him. If they 2359 02:07:27.359 --> 02:07:30.039 had no choice, no free will, then they couldn't have 2360 02:07:30.119 --> 02:07:36.560 chosen there. And so he can't punish evil until evil happens. 2361 02:07:37.359 --> 02:07:39.600 So we have to keep that in mind that you know, 2362 02:07:40.119 --> 02:07:43.520 we hold God to a standard, to a standard we 2363 02:07:43.520 --> 02:07:46.439 don't a standard that we don't hold anything else, the 2364 02:07:46.520 --> 02:07:49.239 same standard that you know we have to wait for 2365 02:07:49.279 --> 02:07:52.640 evil to occur before it's punished. That's the same standard 2366 02:07:52.680 --> 02:07:55.520 that we hold our justice system. We don't expect the 2367 02:07:55.520 --> 02:07:57.960 police to arrest someone before they commit a crime, unless 2368 02:07:57.960 --> 02:08:00.479 you'd look at it with that movie Minority Report about 2369 02:08:00.479 --> 02:08:04.199 twenty years ago. But in reality, you can't say, hey, 2370 02:08:04.199 --> 02:08:06.079 you know, I'm gonnaarrest you because you thought about murdering 2371 02:08:06.119 --> 02:08:08.720 that guy. No, you're not a murderer until you actually 2372 02:08:08.760 --> 02:08:11.720 murder someone. So we can't stop you before you murder. 2373 02:08:11.760 --> 02:08:14.600 We can only punish you or give you a bring 2374 02:08:14.640 --> 02:08:18.199 about justice after you murder. And it's the same thing 2375 02:08:18.239 --> 02:08:21.239 with God, because I can't judge you until you do. 2376 02:08:21.319 --> 02:08:23.840 Long because up until you do long, you have a 2377 02:08:23.920 --> 02:08:26.079 choice to say, you know what, I was gonna do 2378 02:08:26.119 --> 02:08:28.880 this bad thing but becided not to. He can't violate 2379 02:08:28.920 --> 02:08:31.119 that choice. Are we violating our free will? Which would 2380 02:08:31.119 --> 02:08:32.079 be unjust? 2381 02:08:32.560 --> 02:08:36.560 Now, as far as we know, all of the natural 2382 02:08:36.640 --> 02:08:39.960 light that we witness and that we perceive comes from 2383 02:08:40.000 --> 02:08:44.199 the Sun, how do you understand our cosmology? I know 2384 02:08:44.279 --> 02:08:47.760 it's difficult to decipher some of the lies that come 2385 02:08:47.800 --> 02:08:52.720 out of our mainstream science and academia and NASA and 2386 02:08:52.840 --> 02:08:57.039 what we've been told about our planet and solar system 2387 02:08:57.079 --> 02:08:59.239 and what lies beyond our atmosphere? 2388 02:09:00.239 --> 02:09:02.039 What is your understanding of everything? 2389 02:09:03.239 --> 02:09:04.479 All right? We talked about flat Earth. 2390 02:09:04.920 --> 02:09:08.079 Well, you know, I'm not a flat earther, but I'm 2391 02:09:08.119 --> 02:09:13.760 also not of the belief that everything NASA tells us 2392 02:09:13.880 --> 02:09:17.079 is real. And I don't think what we're on is 2393 02:09:17.319 --> 02:09:20.840 exactly what they try to get us to believe that 2394 02:09:20.880 --> 02:09:24.960 we're on. I'm more of possibly that it is some 2395 02:09:25.079 --> 02:09:28.840 sort of and I think simulated reality is way too simple, 2396 02:09:29.560 --> 02:09:34.920 but some sort of holographic reality that is highly malleable. 2397 02:09:35.079 --> 02:09:38.479 And whether we're on a round ball or planet or not, 2398 02:09:38.640 --> 02:09:41.439 I couldn't tell you, but I'd love to hear your 2399 02:09:41.479 --> 02:09:42.399 insights into it. 2400 02:09:43.000 --> 02:09:46.319 Sure, I believe in two things. I believe in realm theory, 2401 02:09:46.359 --> 02:09:50.760 and I believe so the holographic universe is actually you know, 2402 02:09:50.880 --> 02:09:53.000 this is something that a field that studied in science, 2403 02:09:53.000 --> 02:09:56.359 holographic universe. I touched on it a little bit when 2404 02:09:56.399 --> 02:09:59.399 I was talking about how, you know, are the atoms 2405 02:09:59.520 --> 02:10:02.560 that make make up everything in our physical world are 2406 02:10:02.600 --> 02:10:06.800 mostly ninety nine point nine percent empty space. And we 2407 02:10:06.880 --> 02:10:10.920 have the illusion that everything is solid because of the 2408 02:10:11.439 --> 02:10:18.119 electromatic electromagnetic field that's generated by the electrons circling the nucleus. 2409 02:10:18.439 --> 02:10:20.760 But when you get down to it, we're mostly nothing. 2410 02:10:21.079 --> 02:10:24.199 I mean it's primary. I mean, if I believe the 2411 02:10:24.199 --> 02:10:27.079 spiritual realm is the more solid real realm, and that 2412 02:10:27.359 --> 02:10:30.880 our realm is actually the again, that's ninety nine point 2413 02:10:30.960 --> 02:10:33.640 nine percent nothing. It's it's an illusion. It's a hologram. 2414 02:10:33.680 --> 02:10:36.399 Like we look at the old Star Trek TV show 2415 02:10:36.399 --> 02:10:38.239 from the eighties and nineties, they had what they call 2416 02:10:38.359 --> 02:10:42.520 the Holo Deck, which was basically a hard light simulations. 2417 02:10:43.520 --> 02:10:46.920 So yeah, we're we're in a simulation. But here's the thing. 2418 02:10:46.960 --> 02:10:50.399 If you're in a simulation, then that means it's simulating 2419 02:10:50.760 --> 02:10:53.680 something greater. And I think we're in a simulation of 2420 02:10:53.720 --> 02:10:56.880 the spiritual realm. I think the spiritual realm is a real, 2421 02:10:56.960 --> 02:11:02.399 solid realm, and so that when a I'm going to 2422 02:11:02.479 --> 02:11:04.560 get to the the other half of what you were 2423 02:11:04.560 --> 02:11:06.680 saying in a second, but I want to emphasize this 2424 02:11:07.199 --> 02:11:10.880 when when we because we think of our world as 2425 02:11:10.920 --> 02:11:13.000 like the solid world, and the spiritual realm is this 2426 02:11:13.039 --> 02:11:15.920 you know, ethereal, fluffy, you know realm that you know 2427 02:11:16.159 --> 02:11:19.000 it's just not real. So that if say an angel 2428 02:11:19.000 --> 02:11:23.119 at Elohem were to materialize in our world, he would 2429 02:11:23.159 --> 02:11:25.279 he would have to become more solid in order to 2430 02:11:25.359 --> 02:11:29.920 interact with us. It's actually the opposite. When a spiritual 2431 02:11:29.960 --> 02:11:33.399 being enters our realm, they have to become less. Look 2432 02:11:33.399 --> 02:11:34.920 at it. Think of it like this. When you're you're 2433 02:11:34.920 --> 02:11:37.159 flying in an airplane. You look out the window. You 2434 02:11:37.199 --> 02:11:40.560 see these big billowing clouds, and you would just look 2435 02:11:40.600 --> 02:11:42.199 at them and say, you know what the way they look. 2436 02:11:42.199 --> 02:11:43.840 If I were to jump out of this plane and 2437 02:11:43.960 --> 02:11:45.960 I land them the cloud, I would just you know, 2438 02:11:46.000 --> 02:11:48.439 bounce around because they're like big balls of cotton. But 2439 02:11:48.560 --> 02:11:50.399 we know that's not true. We know they're they're water vapor. 2440 02:11:50.399 --> 02:11:52.560 They look solid, but if you were to jump out 2441 02:11:52.600 --> 02:11:54.239 of the plane, you would just fall right through them 2442 02:11:54.239 --> 02:11:57.720 because they're water vapor. The only way that cloud could 2443 02:11:57.760 --> 02:12:00.760 support you is if you were able to reduce your mass, 2444 02:12:00.880 --> 02:12:03.279 reduce your substance to the point where you were at 2445 02:12:03.319 --> 02:12:05.399 the same weight or a little lighter than the cloud. 2446 02:12:05.920 --> 02:12:08.000 Then you can interact with it and touch it and 2447 02:12:08.039 --> 02:12:10.880 you move it around. Same thing with the spiritual beings. 2448 02:12:10.880 --> 02:12:14.680 They have to reduce their their substance in order to 2449 02:12:14.680 --> 02:12:18.720 interact with us. So the spiritual realm is a real realm. 2450 02:12:18.760 --> 02:12:22.640 Our realm is a simulation of that realm. We're the 2451 02:12:22.640 --> 02:12:26.520 ones that aren't real, so I believe. So that's why 2452 02:12:26.520 --> 02:12:28.800 I believe in realm theory, that the spiritual realm isn't 2453 02:12:28.840 --> 02:12:31.560 like in the sky someplaces far away. It's all around us. 2454 02:12:31.720 --> 02:12:34.920 We just can't perceive it right now because it's way 2455 02:12:35.000 --> 02:12:37.239 more solid than we are, and we're just not as 2456 02:12:38.039 --> 02:12:41.199 we're dumber than our ancestors when the speed of light 2457 02:12:41.239 --> 02:12:43.000 with faster, so we can't interact with it the same 2458 02:12:43.000 --> 02:12:50.640 way as far as where we are cosmologically, just like you, 2459 02:12:50.720 --> 02:12:53.760 I don't know for sure. I've never been to space, 2460 02:12:53.960 --> 02:12:56.640 so I can't say that, but I don't believe. I 2461 02:12:56.720 --> 02:12:59.680 believe NASA's not telling us the truth. I don't believe 2462 02:12:59.720 --> 02:13:02.520 we've been to the Moon. I mean, because it makes 2463 02:13:02.560 --> 02:13:04.800 no sense that we can't go back, And they say, well, 2464 02:13:04.840 --> 02:13:07.199 how can why can't we go back? Well, they said 2465 02:13:07.239 --> 02:13:11.359 we lost the technology in the sixties. Seriously, So you're 2466 02:13:11.359 --> 02:13:14.159 telling me that we haven't advanced technologically in the last 2467 02:13:14.199 --> 02:13:17.479 fifty plus years so that we can go back to 2468 02:13:17.520 --> 02:13:19.680 the moon. Well, no, we lost it, Okay, I don't 2469 02:13:19.680 --> 02:13:22.239 believe that at all, So I think the NASA's lying 2470 02:13:22.239 --> 02:13:24.600 to us about it. Let me rephrase that, if we 2471 02:13:24.680 --> 02:13:26.960 have gone to the moon, I don't think that what 2472 02:13:27.000 --> 02:13:31.600 we saw with Neil Armstrong was that. I don't think 2473 02:13:31.600 --> 02:13:33.640 that what we've been presented about going to the moon 2474 02:13:34.239 --> 02:13:37.039 is truth. So I want to be clear there. Maybe 2475 02:13:37.239 --> 02:13:40.600 maybe we have, maybe humanity has, but we haven't seen 2476 02:13:40.600 --> 02:13:42.560 it the way they said we have. 2477 02:13:43.039 --> 02:13:43.279 Yeah. 2478 02:13:44.159 --> 02:13:48.479 So yeah. As far as where light comes from, yeah, 2479 02:13:48.479 --> 02:13:51.039 I think that you know, the sun, our sun is 2480 02:13:51.039 --> 02:13:56.159 is our main source of physical light. But I think 2481 02:13:56.239 --> 02:13:59.760 I think all light comes from the spiritual realm. I 2482 02:13:59.760 --> 02:14:01.039 think it's an energy. I think we can we can 2483 02:14:01.119 --> 02:14:02.760 generate light? I mean, right in front of you, you 2484 02:14:02.800 --> 02:14:03.880 have a light in front of you, have one in 2485 02:14:03.880 --> 02:14:05.600 front of me that's not from the sun, but because 2486 02:14:05.640 --> 02:14:09.880 light is energy, but there's levels of it, Like you know, 2487 02:14:09.920 --> 02:14:12.319 the ring light I have in front of my computer 2488 02:14:12.399 --> 02:14:14.760 right now is nowhere near it as intense as the Sun. 2489 02:14:14.960 --> 02:14:19.439 It's a far lesser light than the Sun than other stars. 2490 02:14:20.640 --> 02:14:22.439 But as you know, as far as space is concerned, 2491 02:14:22.479 --> 02:14:23.840 you know, I only know what I've seen through a 2492 02:14:23.880 --> 02:14:27.399 telescope that there are, you know, sources of light out there. 2493 02:14:28.359 --> 02:14:31.039 Exactly what they look like, I don't know because I 2494 02:14:31.039 --> 02:14:35.560 haven't been there. Is the Earth round or flat? Honestly, 2495 02:14:36.000 --> 02:14:38.800 I don't know. I have friends who are in the military, 2496 02:14:38.880 --> 02:14:41.239 who were in who were airborne, and they've told me 2497 02:14:41.279 --> 02:14:43.640 that they've gone upft you know, fourteen I think it's 2498 02:14:43.720 --> 02:14:45.880 fourteen thousand miles or fourteen hundred miles whatever. They were 2499 02:14:46.079 --> 02:14:48.760 hide up to see the curvature of the Earth. And I 2500 02:14:48.880 --> 02:14:50.720 believe they were telling the truth. They had no reason 2501 02:14:50.800 --> 02:14:52.319 to lie. They weren't trying to prove anything to me. 2502 02:14:52.319 --> 02:14:55.560 They were just saying, give me their experience. However, there 2503 02:14:55.600 --> 02:14:58.720 are some very compelling arguments for flat Earth that I 2504 02:14:58.760 --> 02:14:59.359 can't ignore. 2505 02:15:00.159 --> 02:15:04.640 Yeah, it is very interesting and it's something that I 2506 02:15:05.039 --> 02:15:08.000 love to have different perspectives because, like I said, I 2507 02:15:08.000 --> 02:15:11.840 think everybody has a piece of the puzzle and we 2508 02:15:11.960 --> 02:15:16.079 learn a little bit more from each person's perspective. Now, 2509 02:15:16.119 --> 02:15:20.319 to close out, do you think that it's possible that 2510 02:15:20.399 --> 02:15:26.079 what we're seeing now is a reflection that maybe light 2511 02:15:26.439 --> 02:15:29.960 may have begun to speed back up in a way, 2512 02:15:30.079 --> 02:15:32.479 because I see a lot of good things happening. I 2513 02:15:32.520 --> 02:15:36.199 see a lot of people becoming more aware, a lot 2514 02:15:36.199 --> 02:15:39.920 of people tapping into the spiritual realms, becoming aware of 2515 02:15:39.960 --> 02:15:44.479 the corruption, not participating in some of the dystopian agendas. 2516 02:15:45.239 --> 02:15:48.760 So I see a lot of good things happening as 2517 02:15:48.840 --> 02:15:50.439 this awakening. 2518 02:15:49.920 --> 02:15:51.000 Sort of unfold. 2519 02:15:51.079 --> 02:15:54.840 Could that be correlated to what's happening with the speed 2520 02:15:54.840 --> 02:15:55.199 of light? 2521 02:15:55.239 --> 02:15:57.600 Do you think it could be? 2522 02:15:57.680 --> 02:16:01.079 But I think that if that's happening, and I've seen 2523 02:16:01.119 --> 02:16:03.560 it a lot too. I had a friend of mine 2524 02:16:03.560 --> 02:16:07.239 who was just in Scotland a few weeks ago, and 2525 02:16:07.319 --> 02:16:10.199 he was telling me that in Europe, because Europe is 2526 02:16:10.239 --> 02:16:12.680 kind of ahead of us, for better or worse in 2527 02:16:12.760 --> 02:16:15.920 a lot of ways, So they experienced the degradation of society, 2528 02:16:15.960 --> 02:16:18.359 of their society faster, faster, and we have but a 2529 02:16:18.399 --> 02:16:20.640 lot of them are rebelling against it and are saying, 2530 02:16:20.640 --> 02:16:23.199 we don't want this anymore. So they're ahead of the curve. 2531 02:16:23.279 --> 02:16:25.000 They were ahead of the curve with us on the 2532 02:16:25.039 --> 02:16:26.640 on the downside, and they seem to be ahead of 2533 02:16:26.640 --> 02:16:32.120 the curve than us on coming back. So I believe 2534 02:16:32.159 --> 02:16:35.200 that there might be speeding up individually. I think that, 2535 02:16:35.959 --> 02:16:39.040 And here's why I say that, because time technically, when 2536 02:16:39.040 --> 02:16:43.200 you get down to it too, the Einsteinian definition time 2537 02:16:43.280 --> 02:16:47.440 is perception. Our physical time is affected by how we 2538 02:16:47.520 --> 02:16:52.079 perceive things. And the more you are in the light, 2539 02:16:52.959 --> 02:16:56.000 the more it's the more light speeds up, but the 2540 02:16:56.040 --> 02:16:58.520 more our perception of time slows down, which is kind 2541 02:16:58.520 --> 02:17:02.280 of it's almost a juxtaposition, the more state because again 2542 02:17:02.399 --> 02:17:05.200 light is order you know light, you know the light 2543 02:17:05.239 --> 02:17:08.000 of God is it's more orderly and it slows things down, 2544 02:17:08.040 --> 02:17:11.120 it's more static, whereas chaos moves faster. Chaos is always 2545 02:17:11.159 --> 02:17:17.079 going crazy. So it's a it's interesting, I guess you 2546 02:17:17.079 --> 02:17:21.479 could call it a contrastive aspect of it, that the 2547 02:17:21.559 --> 02:17:24.959 slower light goes the faster chaos goes almost like the 2548 02:17:25.000 --> 02:17:28.559 faster time goes, because I think we may. I don't 2549 02:17:28.559 --> 02:17:30.559 think it's going out on a limit to say that 2550 02:17:30.559 --> 02:17:32.879 things seem to be accelerating in a bad way. We've 2551 02:17:32.920 --> 02:17:38.760 noticed like things are going faster, but because it's more chaotic. 2552 02:17:39.040 --> 02:17:41.559 But once you are in again that state of flow 2553 02:17:41.559 --> 02:17:44.079 that I talked about before, where you are in tune 2554 02:17:44.239 --> 02:17:47.360 with your spiritual self, tune with your your uniqueness, and 2555 02:17:47.440 --> 02:17:49.840 in tune with the light, things seem to slow down 2556 02:17:50.680 --> 02:17:53.440 and things team seem to take longer. And because I 2557 02:17:53.479 --> 02:17:55.760 think that the faster the speed of light is, the 2558 02:17:55.799 --> 02:17:58.760 slower perception of time is. The slower the speed of 2559 02:17:58.840 --> 02:18:02.000 light is, the faster perception of time is. So I 2560 02:18:02.040 --> 02:18:06.079 think that as people become awakened, I think that things 2561 02:18:06.200 --> 02:18:08.879 will slow down if there is a massive awakening, which 2562 02:18:08.879 --> 02:18:13.159 would be great. But I think that again again, as 2563 02:18:13.200 --> 02:18:16.520 a Christian, I believe that there have been seasons of 2564 02:18:16.600 --> 02:18:21.040 revival where people come to spiritual awareness and it can 2565 02:18:21.079 --> 02:18:24.680 stave off the darkness. But we're going to eventually get 2566 02:18:24.680 --> 02:18:27.799 to the point where you know, I think I think 2567 02:18:27.799 --> 02:18:30.360 we may be due for one last revival and then 2568 02:18:30.799 --> 02:18:34.000 we're going off the cliff and things will start moving 2569 02:18:34.040 --> 02:18:37.040 so quickly that they'll accelerate to the point where you know, 2570 02:18:37.079 --> 02:18:38.959 you get to you know, to the point of no return, 2571 02:18:39.280 --> 02:18:41.680 and then that's when I believe, you know, God will 2572 02:18:41.680 --> 02:18:43.360 come back an equal out justice, as we see in 2573 02:18:43.399 --> 02:18:46.000 the Book of Revelation, which I'm actually wrapping up a 2574 02:18:46.040 --> 02:18:49.719 series that I've been doing, like sixty episodes where I 2575 02:18:49.760 --> 02:18:52.159 just break down the entire Book of Revelation. So I'll 2576 02:18:52.200 --> 02:18:54.239 leave you with this because I'm glad you you brought 2577 02:18:54.239 --> 02:18:57.079 that up, because it's something I've I'm not ready to 2578 02:18:57.120 --> 02:18:59.639 do a full show on, but it's something that was 2579 02:18:59.680 --> 02:19:03.000 brought tune me up and lead through my prayers with God. 2580 02:19:03.040 --> 02:19:03.879 He brought us to my attention. 2581 02:19:03.920 --> 02:19:07.680 I'm still researching it. There's a saying that Jesus had 2582 02:19:07.920 --> 02:19:12.840 and he gives an entire treatise on the future, on 2583 02:19:12.920 --> 02:19:15.559 the end times. It's called the al of it discourse 2584 02:19:15.799 --> 02:19:19.959 that occurs in Matthew chapter twenty four, and also a 2585 02:19:20.040 --> 02:19:22.719 variation of it occurs in the books of Mark and Luke. 2586 02:19:23.280 --> 02:19:25.479 One of the things he says is he's talking about, 2587 02:19:25.600 --> 02:19:28.079 you know, the last seven years of human history, which 2588 02:19:28.280 --> 02:19:31.159 you know Christians call the tribulation, where you know, the 2589 02:19:31.159 --> 02:19:34.600 cataclysmic time of judgment and so forth. He says, if 2590 02:19:35.319 --> 02:19:38.200 if those days were not shortened, there would be no 2591 02:19:38.360 --> 02:19:40.879 flesh saved. But for the sake of the elect in 2592 02:19:40.879 --> 02:19:44.479 this case the Jewish people, those days will be shortened. 2593 02:19:44.879 --> 02:19:46.479 What do he mean by that? Did he mean he's 2594 02:19:46.479 --> 02:19:48.120 going to be less than seven years. No, it's going 2595 02:19:48.200 --> 02:19:50.639 to still be seven years. You know, you can't go 2596 02:19:50.719 --> 02:19:52.639 back on that because he will be lying if he 2597 02:19:52.680 --> 02:19:54.639 said it was seven years but not seven years. 2598 02:19:55.319 --> 02:19:55.399 No. 2599 02:19:56.000 --> 02:19:57.920 The only way the days could be shortened is if 2600 02:19:58.200 --> 02:20:02.840 time is moving faster. So if there's less time to 2601 02:20:03.120 --> 02:20:05.479 do you know, the the judgments and whatnot, are the 2602 02:20:05.520 --> 02:20:08.600 evil that's going on, then you know, fewer people will 2603 02:20:08.760 --> 02:20:12.280 will be suffering. So what that tells me is that 2604 02:20:12.319 --> 02:20:14.920 as we get to the very very end before the 2605 02:20:14.959 --> 02:20:18.000 Second Coming, things are going to be going exponentially faster, 2606 02:20:18.280 --> 02:20:22.360 meaning so meaning there's less light, more darkness, which means 2607 02:20:22.360 --> 02:20:25.639 more chaos. Things moving faster and time itself are perception 2608 02:20:25.719 --> 02:20:29.799 of time going so fast that it shortens literally shortens 2609 02:20:29.799 --> 02:20:32.559 the days. And if you want to see if there's 2610 02:20:32.559 --> 02:20:35.000 any practical application of that, because how could we know 2611 02:20:35.319 --> 02:20:38.040 as beings within physical time. How will we know whether 2612 02:20:38.120 --> 02:20:41.000 or not time is slowing is speeding up? Just ask yourself, 2613 02:20:41.239 --> 02:20:43.559 are you able to get as much done during the 2614 02:20:43.639 --> 02:20:44.879 day as you used to? 2615 02:20:47.120 --> 02:20:50.239 Man, that is my perpetual question. How can I get 2616 02:20:50.239 --> 02:20:51.399 this done during the day? 2617 02:20:52.280 --> 02:20:55.760 Yeah, so, I mean that's anecdotal, but I so. But 2618 02:20:55.879 --> 02:20:57.559 if you go with the idea that you know, the 2619 02:20:57.600 --> 02:21:00.680 closer you are to when you're having a spiritual experience, 2620 02:21:01.079 --> 02:21:02.040 time slows down. 2621 02:21:03.760 --> 02:21:04.040 Yeah. 2622 02:21:04.159 --> 02:21:05.719 And one other way I'll leave because us I know 2623 02:21:05.760 --> 02:21:07.959 we're coming up to time. You think about when you're dreaming. 2624 02:21:09.000 --> 02:21:11.520 When you're dreaming, you're in what's called a state of flow. 2625 02:21:12.239 --> 02:21:14.200 You're in that state of flow, You're in that spiritual, 2626 02:21:14.559 --> 02:21:18.760 spiritual sense, you're all consciousness, and you were having what 2627 02:21:18.799 --> 02:21:21.200 you think is a long dream, but it's not really. 2628 02:21:21.280 --> 02:21:25.319 It's not really that long'll your dream is a few 2629 02:21:25.520 --> 02:21:27.479 minutes long, but it feels like you've been dreaming for 2630 02:21:27.559 --> 02:21:32.239 hours because when you're in that spiritual state, your perception 2631 02:21:32.280 --> 02:21:34.799 of time slows down. I have this this bed because 2632 02:21:34.920 --> 02:21:37.000 I've had some sleep issues and so I have a 2633 02:21:37.000 --> 02:21:38.840 bed it's called I think it's called eight sleep where 2634 02:21:38.840 --> 02:21:43.159 it basically monitors your your sleep cycle. And reports. It 2635 02:21:43.159 --> 02:21:45.200 doesn't app that reports. My phone is what tells me 2636 02:21:45.239 --> 02:21:47.000 how long I've been in deep sleep and light sleep, 2637 02:21:47.000 --> 02:21:49.399 being in rim sleep. So I'll wake up and I 2638 02:21:49.440 --> 02:21:51.319 look at it and it'll say you were in rim 2639 02:21:51.360 --> 02:21:53.280 sleep right before you walk could You're usually in rim 2640 02:21:53.360 --> 02:21:55.399 right before you wake up? So you were in rim 2641 02:21:55.440 --> 02:21:56.399 sleep for three minutes? 2642 02:21:56.600 --> 02:21:56.680 Like? 2643 02:21:56.680 --> 02:21:58.879 When are you talking about three minutes? That dream I 2644 02:21:58.920 --> 02:22:01.399 had lasted for I like it lasted for a couple 2645 02:22:01.360 --> 02:22:05.959 of hours. It's because my perception was slowing down. So time, 2646 02:22:06.120 --> 02:22:08.479 the perception of time is slower as we're more in 2647 02:22:08.520 --> 02:22:11.719 that spiritual consciousness state, and as we get away from it, 2648 02:22:11.840 --> 02:22:15.000 as we're lower vibrational, as we're listening to the bad 2649 02:22:15.079 --> 02:22:17.120 music and watching the pad movies, and just in this 2650 02:22:17.239 --> 02:22:20.280 chaotic state, time goes fast. Our perception of time is faster. 2651 02:22:21.000 --> 02:22:21.600 I love it. 2652 02:22:21.680 --> 02:22:25.000 Man, You got me thinking, got the audience thinking, I'm 2653 02:22:25.040 --> 02:22:28.520 sure ed. Thank you so much. This was great information. 2654 02:22:29.319 --> 02:22:31.719 Love to have you back on soon. Well, there's much 2655 02:22:31.799 --> 02:22:35.120 more we can discuss before you go. Let the audience 2656 02:22:35.200 --> 02:22:38.000 know once again where they can find all your content. 2657 02:22:38.760 --> 02:22:41.440 Sure, so, the best place to bind me is my website, 2658 02:22:41.520 --> 02:22:43.920 Faith by Reason Dot net, not dot com. 2659 02:22:43.959 --> 02:22:44.520 Dot net. 2660 02:22:45.200 --> 02:22:46.799 I try to get dot com, but the person who 2661 02:22:46.799 --> 02:22:48.200 olds it will not sell it to me for under 2662 02:22:48.280 --> 02:22:51.959 like several thousand dollars, so dot net. I also have 2663 02:22:52.040 --> 02:22:54.799 my YouTube channel which is you know at faith by Reason. 2664 02:22:54.840 --> 02:22:56.840 You can just you know, put my just put Faith 2665 02:22:56.840 --> 02:22:59.079 by Reason into a search and my stuff will come up. 2666 02:22:59.200 --> 02:23:01.159 I also have a rumbled channel. 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