WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:08.720 Good evening everyone, and welcome to another edition of The 2 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:11.960 Cajun Night Live. I am your host, the Cajun Night 3 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:14.439 Jacob Mook. 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But let's go ahead 20 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:00.640 and start off with this crazy claim that I just 21 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:05.400 recently heard. Now, it's no secret that Donald Trump has 22 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:07.959 deployed National Guard troops to Washington, d C. 23 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:12.200 All right, which all this was in response to one. 24 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:16.120 Of the doze kids getting mugged, which happens right when 25 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:19.000 I was living in DC. I almost got mugged twice 26 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:21.079 that I know of, for sure, and one of my 27 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:23.200 guys in my platoon came back with his face all 28 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:25.640 cut up. And he did, in fact get mugged when 29 00:01:25.640 --> 00:01:27.920 he walked out of bar drunk one night. A group 30 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:30.640 of dudes thought he was someone else. I don't know, 31 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:32.400 but I mean to be fair, this guy was a 32 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:34.439 bit of a loudmouth, so it's very possible. 33 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:35.120 He did instigate. 34 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:37.480 He was a bit of a drunken Irish guy, you know, 35 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:41.280 and it's very possible that he instigated it and got it, 36 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:43.280 got his issue on that he was fine. It wasn't. 37 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:46.640 It didn't require stitches, thank guy. But yeah, DC has 38 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:49.000 never been a relatively safe place. 39 00:01:50.480 --> 00:01:51.079 The closer you. 40 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:53.400 Get to the National mall right, the closer you get 41 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:57.239 to the big monuments and the touristy stuff, yeah it's 42 00:01:57.280 --> 00:01:59.719 safe there. But the further away you get from that, 43 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:02.560 more and more sketchy it gets. That's nothing new. So 44 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:07.120 when Trump was talking about federalizing the security of Washington, DC. 45 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:12.000 That didn't instantaneously, you know, get my hackles up. 46 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:14.759 I'm gonna be honest, you know, and I'm not somebody 47 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:18.080 who is like super thrilled about living in a police state, 48 00:02:18.199 --> 00:02:23.479 like a full on Gestappo style nation. That doesn't make 49 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:25.280 me happy by any means. But that's not what he 50 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:28.199 was insinuating. He was talking about doing that just in 51 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:31.759 d C. All right, cool, got you. Crime in DC 52 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:34.879 seems to have taken a massive downtick. And again, I 53 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:37.360 understand depends on the sources that you read in which 54 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:38.960 side of the aisle you find yourself on it. 55 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:40.199 Yeah, ya yah, fine, fine, fine. 56 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:44.719 Cut Two, he talks about going to Chicago with the 57 00:02:44.840 --> 00:02:47.240 same type of energy to bring down crime. 58 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:49.199 Chicago is not a safe place. 59 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:52.680 No one is under any kind of delusion that thinks 60 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:56.479 that Shyraq is a safe place to like go out 61 00:02:56.520 --> 00:03:00.719 for a picnic. Okay, Like everybody agrees that Chicago aka 62 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:05.400 Shyraq is a rough town. The National Guard was supposed 63 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:07.560 to be deployed there, and the mayor of Chicago and 64 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:12.360 other Illinois political figures spoke out and basically said that 65 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:14.919 we don't want that here, and you know, to be 66 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:18.639 honest with you, if Barack Obama had done this, seeing 67 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:20.919 as how he was from Illinois and he was from Chicago, 68 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:23.960 allegedly all these things and he decided that he wanted 69 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:25.599 to clean up the streets of Chicago, I have a 70 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:28.520 weird feeling that it would have gone over and like, great, 71 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:30.400 they would have welcomed it. They would have thrown a 72 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:33.479 parade that somebody finally cleaning up these streets, and like, 73 00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:34.800 I could see that happening. 74 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:36.800 But because it's Trump that's doing it, he's. 75 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:42.400 A laterally hitler, right cool. That being said, Chicago National 76 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:45.759 Guard deployment that didn't go through, now he is talking 77 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:49.840 about sending them to New Orleans, Louisiana, just a skip 78 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:51.919 and a hop away from my neck of the Bayou. So, 79 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:54.280 you know what, let's talk about this one first. I 80 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:56.159 got a quick little news clip here that we're gonna 81 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:58.680 listen to. Then we're gonna talk a little deeper about 82 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:00.680 the intent on this one. Let's check it out. 83 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:04.800 Doesn't Trump consider sending the National Guard to New Orleans? 84 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:07.360 Sabrina Wilson joins us with what we know so far. 85 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:09.039 Sabrina and Liz. 86 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:12.319 The President made the comments this morning in the Oval Office, 87 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:16.360 saying Governor Jeff Landry, a fellow Republican, wants it. His 88 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:20.040 statement comes as violent crime in New Orleans is down. 89 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:23.839 Trump recently sent the National Guard into Washington, d C. 90 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:26.959 And said this week he was sending them to Chicago, 91 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:30.839 but Chicago's Democratic governor has pushed back hard, saying they 92 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:34.360 don't want the Guard there. So this morning, during questioning 93 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:38.000 by journalists in the Oval Office, Trump said he's now 94 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:41.839 considering sending the Guard to New Orleans and says Governor 95 00:04:41.920 --> 00:04:42.920 Landry wants it. 96 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:45.680 Take a listen, we're making a determination. 97 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:48.560 Now do we go to Chicago or do we go 98 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:51.879 to a place like New Orleans, where we have a 99 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:55.000 great governor, Jeff Landry, who wants us to come in 100 00:04:55.480 --> 00:05:00.839 and straighten out a very nice section of this country 101 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:05.839 that's become quite you know, quite tough, quite bad. So 102 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:09.879 we're going to be going to maybe Louisiana, and you 103 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:12.480 have New Orleans which has a crime problem. Will straighten 104 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:14.639 that out about two weeks. It'll take us two weeks 105 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:15.600 easier than DC. 106 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:22.279 Now. As for the National Guard, Lieutenant Colonel Knowle Collins said, 107 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:27.000 when we're ordered, we'll support for anything else. I would 108 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:30.560 refer you to the governor's office. We just got a 109 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:34.639 reaction from the governor, Governor Landry saying will take President 110 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:39.920 Trump's help from New Orleans to Shreveport. City Councilwoman at 111 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:44.680 Large Helena Moreno had this response to Trump's comments. She said, 112 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:48.639 we have an unprecedented reduction in crime and violence in 113 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:53.079 New Orleans. This is an attack on certain cities. There 114 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:56.680 are many cities with mayors aligned with this president whose 115 00:05:56.720 --> 00:06:01.959 crime issues are severe, but they're not That clearly shows 116 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:08.519 that this is about scare tactics and politicizing public safety. Now, 117 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:12.920 recently a federal judge rule that's a Trump administration illegally 118 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:18.759 used military troops in southern California during immigration protests. I 119 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:22.600 reached out to the mayor, the police chief, and others 120 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:24.519 for comments. So far, haven't heard. 121 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:27.480 All right, Can we just acknowledge the fact that she 122 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:32.240 sounded drunk, Like, realistically, I understand that, like getting tongue 123 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:35.480 ti while reading a script sometimes does suck. I can 124 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:40.480 fully understand that. But at the same time, like something's 125 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:42.680 got to give here, you know. But all right, there 126 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:46.040 was a couple of claims that were made in that spiel, 127 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:48.680 and I think it's worth going a little deeper on 128 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:53.079 For one, Governor Jeff Landry said that we would take 129 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:55.480 the help from New Orleans to Shreveport. And for anybody 130 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:58.600 who may not be familiar with the geography of Louisiana, 131 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:02.079 he's basically saying the higher state Shreveport is one of 132 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:07.079 the larger cities in the uppermost northern aka South Arkansas 133 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:10.160 portion of Louisiana, and New Orleans is one of our 134 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:12.959 bigger cities more towards the southern tip of the boot. 135 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:16.600 That being said, the governor is all on board with 136 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:19.519 getting some help to lower crime in the entire state, 137 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:23.000 but sure New Orleans is an excellent place to start. Meanwhile, 138 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:27.079 representatives said that crime is at an all time low, 139 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:31.319 it's at a dip. Let's talk a little bit more 140 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:33.519 about that after we read this article. This is from 141 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:37.120 USA Today. President Trump says he may send National Guard 142 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:41.000 to New Orleans next instead of Chicago. We just heard 143 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:42.399 him with the quote, so I'm not gonna play the 144 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:45.360 video here, but let's see. President Trump suggests he may 145 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:48.040 send National Guard troops next to New Orleans, as he 146 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:52.120 has repeatedly threatened to Chicago, and as he looks to 147 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:55.360 expand his crime crack down to states where federal intervention 148 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:58.759 is welcome. One day after he declared we're going in 149 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:02.240 about plans for Chicago, Trump on September third said his 150 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:05.160 administration still hadn't decided whether it would deploy troops in 151 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:08.800 the nation's third largest city. Trump instead pointed to New Orleans, 152 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:11.800 a city and a Republican led state in contrast to 153 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:15.399 Democratic led Illinois. And that's kind of my point that 154 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:18.040 I made, right if there was a Democrat in office 155 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:20.439 right now and they were trying to push this initiative 156 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:23.879 into a Democrat state, I have a weird suspicion that 157 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:25.680 it would have gone over way better. 158 00:08:25.800 --> 00:08:26.920 It would have been a smooth thing. 159 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:29.399 They would have been fine with it, because you know, 160 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:33.480 they see themselves as politically aligned. Therefore the initiative is 161 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:36.000 a politically aligned thing. I don't know, But I also 162 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:39.679 have a really hard time seeing Democrats deploy troops to 163 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:43.879 clean up their streets. They seem to thrive in such environments. 164 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:47.639 That being said, I have a feeling that this will 165 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:51.279 go over a whole lot better in New Orleans. And honestly, 166 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:53.000 I could even see him trying to go into certain 167 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:57.039 Texas towns for the same purpose. That being said, we 168 00:08:57.159 --> 00:08:59.559 know that pretty much any federal help going into Texas 169 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:02.120 is probably going more towards the border than it is 170 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:05.840 going into like the inner cities. But I digress. Going 171 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:08.519 back to a quote here, we're making a determination now, 172 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:10.440 Trump said in the Oval office, do we go to 173 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:12.679 Chicago or go to a place like New Orleans, Like 174 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:15.720 you said Governor Jeff Landry, who wants us to straighten 175 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:17.720 out a very nice section of the country. It's become, 176 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:21.159 you know, quite tough, quite bad. So we're going to 177 00:09:21.159 --> 00:09:25.039 be maybe in Louisiana, he said. Trump emphasized that he 178 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:29.600 wants Democratic Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker to request help from 179 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:32.879 the Trump administration to combat Chicago's crime. We could straighten 180 00:09:32.919 --> 00:09:36.960 out Chicago. All they have to do is ask, Trump said. Pritzker, however, 181 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:39.799 has resisted Trump's threats to send the National Guard to Chicago, 182 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:42.840 accusing the President of not being serious about fighting crime, 183 00:09:42.879 --> 00:09:46.759 but rather testing his power quote unquote, I want to 184 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:50.519 go into Chicago, have all the all excuse me, and 185 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:53.879 I have this incompetent governor who doesn't want us, Trump said. 186 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:56.360 Trump is more than three weeks into his crime crack 187 00:09:56.399 --> 00:09:58.919 down in Washington, d C, which is involved deploying more 188 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:01.519 than two thousand and two one hundred National Guard troops 189 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:04.759 to patrol the streets. But unlike other American cities, DC 190 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:08.080 status is a federal enclave gives Trump's special authority to 191 00:10:08.120 --> 00:10:11.440 deploy National Guard troops to the nation's capital. In contrast, 192 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:15.600 the governor's traditionally overseeing mobilization in their states, and that 193 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:20.440 also checks out right. So technically speaking, the mayor of 194 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:25.039 d C also acts as far as a political clout 195 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:28.159 goes kind of acts as the governor of d C 196 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:32.159 as well. Because DC is not a state, they are 197 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:35.879 seen as a district. It's their own municipality. Therefore, the 198 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:39.039 mayor of d C gets the authority to mobilize National 199 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:42.399 Guard troops. But I'm not one hundred percent sure if 200 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:48.440 DC has a National Guard unit organic to the district. 201 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:51.080 I think they might have to rely on the Maryland 202 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:53.919 and Virginia National Guards as far as that's concerned. But 203 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.960 either way it goes. Because it's kind of an outlier, 204 00:10:57.000 --> 00:11:00.360 Trump does have special privileges to do more things in 205 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:03.600 the city to which he currently lives. When it comes 206 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:08.879 to states, however, the National Guard answers to the governor. Right, 207 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:10.799 the governor of that state is the one that allows 208 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:13.840 and certifies and documents and all this stuff, and basically 209 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:16.799 is the one that mobilizes National Guard troops whenever they 210 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:20.399 determine that something is needing the help or the support 211 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:22.840 or the defense or the offense or whatever. 212 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:23.159 The case is. 213 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:28.120 That being said, Trump just did send National Guard troops 214 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:29.559 to southern California for. 215 00:11:29.519 --> 00:11:30.759 The riots that was going on. 216 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:34.159 Gavin Newsom did not send the National Guard troops into 217 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:38.080 Southern California. That was Trump, And somebody said that that 218 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:40.720 was a political flex of his as well, even though 219 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:44.519 it was needed at that moment. But you know, moving 220 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:48.480 on here, Louisiana governor welcomes National Guard to New Orleans. 221 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:52.399 Trump signed an executive order on August eleventh directing Defense 222 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:55.600 Secretary Pete Hegsath to coordinate with state governors to determine 223 00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:58.720 whether National Guard troops are needed in their communities. While 224 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.679 bost Chicago, and New Orleans have democratic mayors, as does 225 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:05.519 every major city in the country pretty much as a 226 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:13.120 standard rule, Brandon Johnson and LaToya Cantrell, which LaToya Cantrell, Yeah, 227 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:15.279 I'm not going to go into a rant on that 228 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:19.799 human being. She is one of the most human beings 229 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:23.440 there's ever been. That's all I'll say on that, respectfully, 230 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:26.879 Louisiana presents an opportunity for coordination with the state's governor, 231 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:30.879 Republican Jeff Landry, while Chicago does not. We will take 232 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:33.600 President Donald Trump's help for New Orleans to Shreveport. 233 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:35.279 Landry satt on the Post on x. 234 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:39.159 Both Chicago and New Orleans have well documented struggles with crime. 235 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:42.720 New Orleans has the third highest homicide rate in twenty 236 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:46.879 twenty five, while Chicago ranks tenth according to a list 237 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.080 compiled from the nonprofit Freedom for All Americans based on 238 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:55.879 local data. DC ranked nineteenth on the same list. We 239 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:58.480 are still in the middle of twenty twenty five. We 240 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:02.240 just got to September of this year, and New Orleans 241 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:06.759 is currently ranked third as far as the highest homicides 242 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:09.360 in the country goes. Yet, if you listen to most 243 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:12.159 of the mainstream media, they'll tell you that, well, New 244 00:13:12.279 --> 00:13:15.000 Orleans is on a crime down tick right now. They're 245 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:17.159 doing better than they have in years as far as 246 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:19.960 crime is concerned. Why do we need National Guard troops there? 247 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:24.600 That is incorrect, by the numbers, and it's not just homicides. 248 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:27.240 You want to look at carjackings. You want to talk 249 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:30.080 about burglaries. You want to talk about massive drug busts. 250 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:31.960 You want to talk about cartel movement, you want to 251 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:35.320 talk about gang movement. Murder is a pretty. 252 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:37.320 Good telltale sign of everything else. 253 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:39.559 I think it's very rare to find a town that 254 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:41.720 has a high murder rate that also doesn't have a 255 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:46.120 high crime rate in other regards as well. The reason why, 256 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:48.200 and I've talked about this on the Cult a few times, 257 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:51.519 the reason why New Orleans has such a high murder 258 00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:54.600 rate is because of something called the thirty Day Murder trial. 259 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:57.159 And for those that may not be acquainted, here's how 260 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:59.480 this goes down. This is gonna for the record, this 261 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:01.919 is going to sound like I'm making this up. 262 00:14:02.159 --> 00:14:03.960 I can assure you that I am not. 263 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:08.240 Here's how this goes Let's say that a murder gets 264 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:12.159 committed in New Orleans. Okay, Cool, cops get called the 265 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:16.639 guilty party, if you will, suspect because innocential, proven guilty, 266 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:20.279 even if there's cameras showing it all gets arrested. Cool, 267 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:24.120 all right, And well, I guess if there's cameras involved 268 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:25.919 in the state would pick up the case in this one. 269 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:29.320 But in the case of just bear with me here, 270 00:14:29.360 --> 00:14:32.840 So a murder gets committed, cops get called homeboy gets arrested, 271 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:36.120 all right, cool, In thirty days, he will appear before 272 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:39.000 a judge, and if there is no witnesses to testify 273 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:43.399 against him, he walks. That's how the criminal justice system 274 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:45.960 works in New Orleans. Now, like I said, if there's 275 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:48.159 a camera involved, like you're at a gas station or 276 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:50.399 something and a security camera sees the whole interaction, the 277 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:52.120 state will probably pick up the case, and that's just 278 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:52.679 how it goes. 279 00:14:53.159 --> 00:14:55.399 But if it's a domestic dispute, which most of. 280 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:57.759 The murders in New Orleans are classified as, or maybe 281 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:00.600 gang violence or something like this, there's very, very rarely 282 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:02.919 any kind of video evidence and there is not going 283 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:05.720 to be a witness to testify against you, because if 284 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:08.240 they take the stand against you, they probably won't make 285 00:15:08.279 --> 00:15:12.360 it home that day, and they understand that. So most 286 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:14.519 of the murder cases that go down in New Orleans, 287 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:18.120 the guilty party walks. And there was a very big 288 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.639 problem with this after Katrino, when a lot of the 289 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:25.440 quote unquote refugees from New Orleans. Not all. 290 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:28.080 There were a lot of people that were genuine refugees. 291 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:30.679 There was a lot of gang members that took that 292 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:35.000 same type of energy and went to Dallas, Austin, Houston, 293 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:37.960 and they thought that that's how the law works everywhere, 294 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:40.440 and they found out very quickly that no, you're not 295 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:42.679 going to get away with murder in the state of Texas. 296 00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:44.639 That only goes down in New Orleans. It's not even 297 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:49.000 a state thing. That's a city thing. But anyway, so 298 00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:52.000 whenever we talk about high homicide rates in New Orleans, 299 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:53.799 this is not a new thing. This has been the 300 00:15:53.799 --> 00:15:58.519 way for decades. And not to mention, New Orleans cannot 301 00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:03.679 keep police officers. They are begging on their knees and 302 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:08.320 offering pretty substantial signing bonuses for anybody to become a 303 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:11.840 New Orleans police officer. The problem is that of the 304 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:15.519 ones that are currently serving, most of them are on 305 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:18.440 the take in some way, shape or form. Or you 306 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:21.399 get some young guy, some young blood that's trying to 307 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:23.879 get up in the police officer the department and do 308 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:27.879 good for the community. He might make it two years, 309 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:31.320 maybe three, and then he decides the pay is not 310 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:35.440 worth the amount of issues that I have to deal 311 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:39.039 with in this community on a daily basis. New Orleans 312 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:42.399 is begging people. For every one cop that they get 313 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:45.519 added to the department, they lose three. And that has 314 00:16:45.559 --> 00:16:47.519 been the case for the better part of a decade. 315 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:51.320 That has not gotten better at all. But they're doing 316 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:54.440 what they can. So when President Trump is offering to 317 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:57.720 send National Guard troops into New Orleans to clean it up, 318 00:16:58.399 --> 00:17:02.080 you would think LaToya Cantrell would be super on board 319 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:06.160 with this, especially how New Orleans is currently. We still 320 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:08.880 have four months to go and we're already ranked third 321 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:14.359 in the nation for homicides. But okay, sure, now like 322 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:17.680 continuing the article here, it says waiting until we are asked, 323 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:21.079 Trump says in a shift of rhetoric. Trump has also 324 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:26.119 discussed targeting Baltimore, Los Angeles, Oakland, California, and New York 325 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:29.440 City in future crackdowns. Yet the president and his September 326 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:32.319 third remarks secondly, he may not deploy the National Guard 327 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:35.039 to these cities unless he is asked. Yeah, I see 328 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:40.200 that going south. Realistically, Let's see Baltimore. I don't see 329 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:43.160 that going well. But you might be able to finagle 330 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:46.480 your way in there, La, and Oakland. So you're going 331 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:50.920 to supersed Gavin Newsom and send federal troops to his 332 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:54.119 to the cities in his state. I don't see that 333 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:56.680 going well. Although that being said, he did just do 334 00:17:56.759 --> 00:17:59.720 that for the riots that took place, but that's a 335 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:00.400 little different. 336 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:02.119 That's more of a quick response for us. 337 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:05.559 This is talking about rooting out organized crime and gangs 338 00:18:05.599 --> 00:18:08.400 and all of these things in these cities. I don't 339 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:11.079 have a I don't think Gavin Newsom's going to ask 340 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:15.720 him to come to California. New York City. The mayor 341 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:18.000 of New York correct me I from wrong. Who just 342 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:22.400 got elected was that Muslim socialist. I got a really 343 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:25.039 hard time believing that he is going to ask Trump 344 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:30.319 to please send National Guard troops into New York City. Now, granted, 345 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:32.799 National Guard troops were already in New York City and 346 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:36.440 they were monitoring the subway system right because it was 347 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:39.839 that bad, and they got ship on the entire time. 348 00:18:40.119 --> 00:18:43.519 I think there's still a few out there, but by 349 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:46.079 and large, it's it's only for the subway system to 350 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:50.599 try to protect people, to go deep into the entire city. Yeah, 351 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:52.759 I got a hard time believing that they're gonna ask 352 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:55.960 Trump for help I could. I hope I'm wrong. I 353 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:58.480 really hope I'm wrong on this one. But we shall see. 354 00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:01.200 Moving on here, it says the politicians are not in 355 00:19:01.319 --> 00:19:04.039 tune with the people. Boy, if that ain't one of 356 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:06.200 the most statements that has ever been made. The people 357 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:08.759 in Chicago, the people in Baltimore, the people in all 358 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:12.319 the places we talk about, they want to see us there, 359 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:15.319 Trump said, but added, I think we are pretty much 360 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:17.079 waiting until we are asked. 361 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:18.920 His comments marked the shifting. 362 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:21.880 Rhetoric from one day earlier on September second, when Trump 363 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:24.119 claimed that he planned to send troops into Chicago, whether 364 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:26.880 they asked for help or not. If the governor of 365 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:28.920 Illinois would call me up, I would love to do it, 366 00:19:28.960 --> 00:19:30.680 Trump said twenty four hours earlier. 367 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:32.519 Now we're going to do it anyway. 368 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:34.319 We have the right to do it because I have 369 00:19:34.359 --> 00:19:37.960 an obligation to protect this country. But again, now he's 370 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:40.839 starting to sidestep that and say, ah, maybe New Orleans, 371 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:44.599 maybe that's a better bet. A federal judge in California 372 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:47.359 ruled on September second that Trump's deployment of National Guard 373 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:50.119 troops this year in Los Angeles in response to protests 374 00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:54.160 was illegal because it violated a federal law prohibiting the 375 00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:59.920 use of military to enforce domestic laws. I find that weird. 376 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:03.400 I don't know what this judge said this or what about, 377 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:06.880 but when you take an oath to join the military, 378 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:10.440 you swear to uphold and offend the Constitution against all enemies, 379 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:15.319 foreign and domestic. It's literally in the oath that you 380 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:19.200 take to join the military. So that being said, I 381 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:22.799 don't know what law prohibits the use of military to 382 00:20:23.079 --> 00:20:25.480 enforce domestic laws. 383 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:26.640 I don't know. 384 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:30.559 I'm not an expert in the legal system, but I 385 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:32.279 feel like that's a bit of a bit of a 386 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:36.079 misnomer there. However, the narrow ruling does not require Trump 387 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:38.759 to withdraw the remaining three hundred National Guard troops from 388 00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:42.480 Los Angeles, nor does it apply to other states. Okay, 389 00:20:43.519 --> 00:20:47.279 maybe that's maybe that's just a California rule or something, 390 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:48.759 but I sure the hell have never heard of it. 391 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:51.440 And if it was such a serious rule, why aren't 392 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:53.920 they bitching a moaning about the three hundred other National 393 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:57.960 Guard troops that are still in LA. But all right, Memphis, 394 00:20:58.039 --> 00:21:01.200 Saint Louis, Kansas City, and Cleveland are other cities that, 395 00:21:01.359 --> 00:21:03.359 like New Orleans, rank them on the top ten in 396 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:07.920 homicide rates and are in states with Republican governors. Trump, however, 397 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:12.200 has not cited them as potential targets. Tennessee Governor Bill Lee, 398 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:14.960 a Republican ally of Trump, toll reporters last week that 399 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:18.640 he hadn't planned to ask for federal troops for Memphis quotes. 400 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:20.759 He said, we have no plans to put National Guard 401 00:21:20.759 --> 00:21:21.359 there now. 402 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:24.799 So let's talk about some of those claims that were 403 00:21:24.799 --> 00:21:27.279 made about how New Orleans is on the down tick 404 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:30.319 as far as crime is concerned. On screen right now 405 00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:33.799 is a graph. Okay, murders in New Orleans from nineteen 406 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:37.559 sixty four to twenty twenty three. This little AI overview, 407 00:21:37.640 --> 00:21:39.759 let's read that real quick, New Orleans crime rates have 408 00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:42.720 been marked by fluctuations over the past decade, with a 409 00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:47.160 record low in twenty nineteen, which is solid, it's excellent, 410 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:51.480 by a significant spike in violent crime, particularly homicides, peaking 411 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:55.400 in twenty twenty two at a post Katrina high. 412 00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:59.440 Okay, this is the point. 413 00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:04.400 Yeah, things were on the downtick until COVID, until Biden 414 00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:09.000 took office. All of this ties together and again, yes, 415 00:22:09.039 --> 00:22:11.160 We could blame the mayor and we could blame other people, 416 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:13.920 but the facts are the facts here. Yeah, it was 417 00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:16.680 at an all time low in twenty nineteen, but if 418 00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:20.880 you look at twenty twenty three, they got up there, okay, 419 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:22.839 to where it was like around Katrina levels. 420 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:25.160 Twenty twenty five isn't even on. 421 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.400 This map right now or on this graph rather, and 422 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:30.599 we are currently ranked third highest in the nation. New 423 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:33.519 Orleans is not doing well and we are not on 424 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:36.799 some sort of a downtick as far as violent crimes 425 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:38.839 or crimes in general are concerned. 426 00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:42.440 That is ridiculous. So that being said, says. 427 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:44.640 However, there have been a notable decline since twenty twenty three, 428 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:47.599 were reductions in various violent crime categories, including murder, non 429 00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:51.119 fatal shootings, carjackings, and armed robberies, putting the city on 430 00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:53.559 pace for a substantial drop in violent crimes for twenty 431 00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:55.079 twenty four and twenty twenty five. 432 00:22:55.319 --> 00:22:56.599 See this is my problem with AI. 433 00:22:57.359 --> 00:23:00.160 Right, AI just said that we would be on track 434 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:01.400 for a all time dip. 435 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:05.119 Meanwhile, we rose to third highest. 436 00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:08.720 AI is trash, y'all, and I wanted to read that 437 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:12.519 to prove this point. Literally, they are number three. 438 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:12.839 In the nation. 439 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:15.680 But the AI will tell you that they're on a 440 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:21.240 substantial dip, a substantial reduction in violent crimes. Y'all. See 441 00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:24.759 the issue I have with it AI is absolute garbage. 442 00:23:25.359 --> 00:23:29.039 That being said, it is worth mentioning that I am 443 00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:32.119 not personally opposed to the National Guard coming in and 444 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:35.079 doing some real work in New Orleans. It needs it. 445 00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:37.039 And while they're at it, they want to stop off 446 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:39.720 in Baton Rouge, that'd be awesome. If they want to 447 00:23:39.799 --> 00:23:42.640 keep going north and hit Shreveport, I mean, it's a 448 00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:45.880 shit hole anyway, but please go on up there to 449 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:47.839 South Arkansas and handle that too. 450 00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:50.759 I'm here for it. That is literally no skin off 451 00:23:50.759 --> 00:23:51.119 my nose. 452 00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:54.160 And I go to New Orleans probably once or twice 453 00:23:54.160 --> 00:23:56.200 a month for different various reasons. 454 00:23:57.039 --> 00:23:59.200 This would be a very welcome change of pace. 455 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:01.960 I'm gonna be honest with you, but I know there's 456 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:03.720 gonna be people there saying that I'm just a boot 457 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:04.559 liquor for saying this. 458 00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:06.559 It's like, you know, I don't know. 459 00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:10.200 How many people that you to any of the listeners 460 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:12.240 out there, that would say such a thing. I don't 461 00:24:12.279 --> 00:24:14.319 know how many people you've seen stabbed to death with 462 00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:16.599 your own eyes. I don't know how many times you've 463 00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:19.160 been in a city and been on the same block 464 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:21.599 as a shooting that just pops off for no reason. 465 00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:23.640 I don't know how many times you've been out with 466 00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:26.200 your children and had to take off running with them 467 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:29.319 because a shooting happened on the same block you're on. 468 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:31.480 But I can tell you that I've had to do 469 00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:34.759 that more than a few times. And all the other 470 00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:36.880 things that I've seen, I know I haven't been involved 471 00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:39.599 with it. I'm not out there living that gang life 472 00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:41.680 by any means, and I'm not even going to the 473 00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:44.559 dangerous areas. Okay, you'll never see me in the third ward, 474 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:46.960 the seventh ward, the ninth ward, You'll never see me there. 475 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:49.440 I'm usually around the Central Business District or around the 476 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:53.440 French Quarter on the rare occasion, these are considered relatively 477 00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:56.000 safe areas, and you will still see this from time 478 00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:59.240 to time. Yeah, New Orleans needs a bit of some 479 00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:01.880 help as far as that's concerned. The police officers are 480 00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:05.559 overtasked and overworked and overstretched. 481 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:08.240 So just my two. 482 00:25:08.039 --> 00:25:12.160 Cents speaking on behalf of myself, not as a citizen 483 00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:14.680 of the great City of New Orleans, but as a 484 00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:19.000 representative of it, at least through the charitable nonprofit that 485 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:20.720 I have that is based out of New Orleans and 486 00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:23.400 that I am currently the leader of. I gotta tell you, 487 00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:28.440 I welcome federal help to clean up New Orleans. That 488 00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:30.799 would be that would be leaps and bounds better than 489 00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:35.519 what the what Latoya's had done for us in the 490 00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:38.359 past since her term has began. 491 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:39.240 Let's just leave it at that. 492 00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:43.839 Anyway, all right, moving on, as I'm saying these things 493 00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:48.640 that is very sounding Trump positive, Let's talk about something 494 00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:51.920 that is not so positive about Trump. We now have 495 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:56.799 a group of Epstein's survivors that have come together and said, 496 00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:59.480 you know what, screw it. If y'all don't release the list, 497 00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:02.799 we will make our own lists. They currently have upwards 498 00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:06.039 of one thousand survivors of Epstein Island and the mar 499 00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:09.079 A Lago and his place in New York and all 500 00:26:09.079 --> 00:26:14.000 these things who have documented, verified proof of their whereabouts 501 00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:17.400 on how Epstein preyed upon them, and they also know 502 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:21.799 other co conspirators and other people that Epstein brought them 503 00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:24.599 to and all these things. They have decided to join 504 00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:28.160 forces publicly and demand that if y'all don't release the list. 505 00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:29.200 We will. 506 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:31.680 They had a massive press conference outside of the White 507 00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:34.359 House today about it. Let's listen in to this ABC 508 00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:36.279 News report talking about it. Then we're going to go 509 00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:36.920 a little deeper. 510 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:40.279 The heated debate over the release of the Jeffrey Epstein 511 00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:42.799 files lands on the steps of the US Capitol. 512 00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:45.680 That's where survivors of Epstein's sexual abuse and members of 513 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:47.880 Congress spoke out. And now as soon as report of 514 00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:50.759 Sophie Flay is here now with emotional messages and what 515 00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:53.839 President Trump is now saying about this case, Sophie. 516 00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:56.039 Yeah, David Jamona, that's right. It was a real display 517 00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:59.160 of unity in Washington, d C. Today, victims standing side 518 00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:02.119 by side with members of Congress, all with the same message, 519 00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:04.119 release the Epstein files in full. 520 00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:07.119 I was only fourteen years old when I was introduced 521 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:10.359 to Jeffrey Epstein by a thirteen year old friend of mine. 522 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:14.319 I was only fourteen years old when my friend brought 523 00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:16.960 me over to Jeffrey Epstein's house in Palm Beach. 524 00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:19.519 I was sixteen years old when I was blown to 525 00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:22.960 New Mexico to spend a weekend with Epstein and Maxwell. 526 00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:25.839 Women who say they faced years of abuse by Jeffrey 527 00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:29.440 Epstein coming together in Washington, d C. Today. They're calling 528 00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:32.200 on lawmakers to support a discharge petition that would lead 529 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:35.039 to a bill, and, if passed, would require the Department 530 00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:38.960 of Justice to release Epstein records. Politicians on both sides 531 00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:40.200 of the aisle speaking out. 532 00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:42.960 We are coming for and we are going to fight 533 00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:46.000 like hell for these women, because we have to fight 534 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:50.359 like hell for those that are enduring sexual abuse. 535 00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:55.519 A nation that allows rich and powerful men to traffic 536 00:27:55.599 --> 00:28:00.839 and abuse young girls without consequence is a nation that 537 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:04.480 has lost its moral and spiritual core. 538 00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.839 With enough support, it would require the DOJ to release 539 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:12.680 all unclassified materials, including names of co conspirators, flight locks, 540 00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:16.839 details on immunity deals and cover ups, internal DOJ communications, 541 00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:21.000 and records surrounding Epstein's death. President Trump asked by members 542 00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:23.200 of the press if the withholding of documents is to 543 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:26.359 protect friends or donors, Trump responding, it's. 544 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:29.839 Really a Democrat hoax because they're trying to get people 545 00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:32.240 to talk about something that's totally irrelevant. 546 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:35.200 On Tuesday, the House Oversight Committee publicly released more than 547 00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:38.759 thirty three thousand pages of documents related to the disgraced financier, 548 00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:41.039 much of which was already public. 549 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:44.880 Whether you're a Republican or you're a Democrat, this one 550 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:46.559 is an easy call. 551 00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:49.920 According to California Congressman Brad Sherman, if a majority of 552 00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:52.880 members of the House of Representatives sign this petition, the 553 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:55.880 House must begin debating this bill within several days. 554 00:28:56.240 --> 00:29:00.319 The heated All right, So, as we were just sorrying 555 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.839 about Trump doing some very positive things, now it's time 556 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:05.640 for us to take a step back and talk about 557 00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:09.519 something that he is fumbling the ball on significantly, so 558 00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:12.920 hard in fact, that, like I said, somewhere around it 559 00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:14.759 depends on the report you read. Some are saying a 560 00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:17.960 few hundred, some are saying close to one thousand. Epstein's 561 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:22.480 survivors are now coming out very publicly. They're joining forces, 562 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:25.559 They're compiling their own list, and they will release it 563 00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:29.279 regardless of whatever the DOJ does. This is going to 564 00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:32.640 play out very, very poorly for him and his administration 565 00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:36.039 that they do not get on this. Now, let's read 566 00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:37.559 in as a matter of fact, not only is this 567 00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:40.880 an American issue, the BBC has written an article about it, 568 00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.079 and I feel like it's worth reading. Epstein accusers say 569 00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:48.039 they are compiling lists of his associates victims of Jeffrey 570 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:51.359 Epstein have shared emotional accounts of sexual abuse as they 571 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.920 spoke on the steps of the US Capitol, and I 572 00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:56.960 said White House earlier in my apologies, that capital, it's 573 00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:59.440 like a few blocks away. Calm down and call for 574 00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.640 lawmakers to release more files about the convicted sex offender. 575 00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:05.680 One of the women, Lisa Phillips, said the group had 576 00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:09.000 begun compiling a confidential list of Epstein associates who they 577 00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:12.799 say were involved in abuse. Quote here we will confidentially 578 00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:17.000 or yeah, confidently confidentially, So I said that right the 579 00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.720 first time, we will confidentially compile the names we all 580 00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:22.519 know we're regularly in the Epstein world. She said. It 581 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:25.960 will be done by survivors and four survivors. The event 582 00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:28.720 was organized by US lawmakers who are calling for more 583 00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:32.680 files from the Epstein investigation to be released publicly. During 584 00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:37.160 the two hour news conference on Wednesday today, as of time, recording, 585 00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:40.839 nine female Epstein accusers detail their experiences and abuse at 586 00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:44.119 the hands of the disgraced finance here. Miss Phillips urged 587 00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:46.200 the Department of Justice to release all the documents and 588 00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:50.200 information it has from the investigation, adding that many victims 589 00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:52.480 were afraid of repercussions if they went public with the 590 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:55.400 names themselves. They got nine people to speak on it, 591 00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:57.000 but there's a lot more that are a part of 592 00:30:57.039 --> 00:30:59.279 this collective that are going to be compiling this list, 593 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:01.240 and that's where I'm saying it. I found a few 594 00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:03.680 articles that were saying some wild numbers, and it's like, 595 00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.160 you know, we already know that he was guilty of 596 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:10.599 doing this too up the claim is a thousand women, 597 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:13.480 but then the DOJ says there was no co conspirators, 598 00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:15.000 no flight logs, none of these things. 599 00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:15.480 Whatever. 600 00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:20.640 I have a feeling that these thousand victims will tell 601 00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:23.319 a different story. And I also have a hard time 602 00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:27.880 believing that you're going to suicide quote unquote every single 603 00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:30.279 one of the victims that are willing to whether they 604 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:32.920 come out and state their own name and their experiences 605 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:36.720 or they added to the list anonymously. I have a 606 00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:39.359 hard time believing you're gonna be able to silence this 607 00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:42.720 large of a group. And I don't think they really 608 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:44.519 expected it to go to this level, but I am 609 00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:48.079 very happy that it is. Let's continue. A lawyer for 610 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:50.440 the accusers added that they were scared of being sued 611 00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:55.720 or attacked because nobody protected them the first time. Nobody 612 00:31:55.920 --> 00:32:01.720 protected them the first time. Yeah, yeah, I'd completely agree, 613 00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:05.839 and I completely understand their hesitation to be completely honest 614 00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:09.759 with you. Marina Lecerta, speaking publicly for the first time, 615 00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:12.480 said she worked for Epstein from the age of fourteen 616 00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.799 until she was seventeen, when the disgrace financce here determined 617 00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:19.799 she was too old. I was one of a dozen girls. 618 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:23.599 I was one of dozens of girls that I personally 619 00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:26.480 know who were forced into Jeffrey's mansion in New York 620 00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:29.400 City when we were just kids, she said. A friend 621 00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:31.079 of mine in the neighborhood told me I can make 622 00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:36.000 three hundred dollars to give another guy a massage. Licerta said, 623 00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.920 while becoming visibly emotional. It went from a dream to 624 00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:43.960 the worst nightmare. Wow. Liz Stein, who sued Epstein and 625 00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:46.839 Maxwell and who now works as a survivor, mentor and 626 00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:49.759 policy advisor, told the BBC that she spoke with the 627 00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:53.240 Capital Rally or at the Capitol Rally to humanize survivors 628 00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:56.559 because she was tired of them being ignored. Direct quote here, 629 00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:59.400 it's really important for us to all remember that this 630 00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:02.680 is a crime it's a crime of sex trafficking. This 631 00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:05.599 isn't a political issue, but it's being politicized because of 632 00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:09.519 the people involved. I could not agree more regardless of 633 00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:11.960 whatever side of the isle you find yourself on, regardless 634 00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:15.519 of whatever socioeconomic class you find yourself in, regardless of 635 00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:19.960 whatever deity you happen to worship. This is the worst 636 00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:24.319 of humanity. And I think we could all agree on that, 637 00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:26.440 regardless of who you voted for in the last election. 638 00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:30.559 But to her point, it is being politicized because of 639 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:34.759 the people on the list. Right. Anne Farmer, who's forty six, 640 00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:36.519 set at the rally that she was taken to New 641 00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:41.000 Mexico aged sixteen to spend a week with Epstein. Her 642 00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:43.960 sister was also flown there, reported the abuse, she said, 643 00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:47.279 but nothing was done. So now we're talking about more 644 00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.240 than Epstein Island. We're talking more than more about his 645 00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:54.160 Palm Springs or his New York City, New Mexico. It's 646 00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:55.960 all over the place, y'all. This is why it's the 647 00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:59.759 trafficking charge, is not just the rape of a minor 648 00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:02.640 and all these things. But let's continue. We still do 649 00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:05.920 not know why that report wasn't properly investigated or why 650 00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:08.960 Epstein and his associates were allowed to harm hundreds, if 651 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:13.079 not thousands, of girls and young women, she said. Shaunta 652 00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:17.119 Davies addressed a question about the relationship between Trump and Epstein, saying, 653 00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:20.599 the sex offenders quote biggest brag forever was that he 654 00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:25.480 was a very good friend with Donald Trump. Yeah, yeah, 655 00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:28.320 I let that one. Marinade y'all. He had a framed 656 00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:31.039 picture of him on his desk with the two of them. 657 00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:35.519 She said, Wow, Trump was friendly with Epstein. But of course, 658 00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:37.679 and we've talked about this before, he said they fell 659 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:39.920 out in the early two thousands because the financier poached 660 00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:44.079 employees from the spot at Trump's Florida golf club. Okay, 661 00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.719 so you knew in the early two thousands that he 662 00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:49.880 was doing these things, and that's the issue I have. 663 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:53.239 There's no way that you can claim ignorance as far 664 00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:57.119 as this is concerned. He tried hiring some of your 665 00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:01.159 younger employees to come and work for him, and you 666 00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:04.159 knew exactly what he meant by work for him. So 667 00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:06.199 you had a falling out with him because he was 668 00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:12.119 poaching your employees. Again, let that Marinade y'all quote, is 669 00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:15.000 it from Trump? This is a Democrat hoax that never ends. 670 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.599 Trump told reporters in the Oval Office on Wednesday, when 671 00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:21.639 asked about the nearby news conference, He said, nobody's ever 672 00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.280 satisfied with the files that have been released, adding that 673 00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:27.360 the call for more releases is a distraction from his 674 00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:32.079 record in office. Really, I think it's enough, Trump said, Bro, 675 00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:33.159 it's not. 676 00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:34.280 It's not. 677 00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:38.559 You've done You've done jack and shit for these survivors, 678 00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:41.840 and you have publicly mocked them, and you're acting like 679 00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:44.760 this is an irrelevant issue. This is one of the 680 00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:49.039 most relevant issues, I would argue of our century, let 681 00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:52.960 alone of this decade, let alone of your political term. 682 00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:56.559 This is so much bigger than your four year term 683 00:35:56.599 --> 00:36:01.960 in office. This went on for decades. It's oh, it's 684 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:04.920 mind blowing. And he still is not going the right 685 00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:08.840 way about it. He is he is continuously denied, deny, deny, 686 00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.760 make counter accusation, shift the blame, implement this. 687 00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:13.320 Let's talk about this other thing. 688 00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:16.639 And again, as I was just saying that, I hope 689 00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:19.119 that he does send federal troops to New Orleans, and 690 00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.719 I am in favor of that big dog at least 691 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:26.960 address the thing that is happening on your doorstep. It's uh, 692 00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:31.639 it's it's it's very disappointing. During an NBC panel discussion 693 00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:33.920 with a group of survivors on Tuesday, none of the 694 00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:36.840 women said they ever saw Trump do anything inappropriate relating 695 00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:40.159 to Epstein. Neither did they say they witnessed any misconduct 696 00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:43.519 from ex President Bill Clinton, who travel with Epstein is 697 00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:48.079 under congressional scrutiny, I'll bet. On Tuesday evening, thirty three 698 00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:51.239 pages or thirty three thousand pages in several videos were 699 00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:54.840 made public to the House Oversight Committee, which has subpoenaed 700 00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:58.800 the Justice Department in Epstein, a state. Most of the files, however, 701 00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:02.519 were already in the public domain. Right, we already knew 702 00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:06.079 about these things, the top Democrat of the committee, Robert Garcia, said, 703 00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:09.639 don't let this fool you. After careful review, oversight Democrats 704 00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:12.880 have found that ninety seven percent of the documents received 705 00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:16.440 from the DOJ were already public. There is no mention 706 00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:19.480 of any client list or anything that improves transparency or 707 00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:20.719 justice for victims. 708 00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:21.719 End quote. 709 00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.400 The release on Tuesday followed last month's publication of the 710 00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:28.719 Department of Justice's interview with jas Lane Maxwell, a convicted 711 00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:32.119 sex trafficker and accomplice of ebscene. In the transcript, which 712 00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:37.079 run on to three hundred pages, some heavily redacted, shocker 713 00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:40.039 Maxwell said that while she believed Trump and Epstein were 714 00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:42.199 friendly in social settings, she did not think they were 715 00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:43.519 close friends. 716 00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:44.440 All right. 717 00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:48.480 Two members of the House, Republican Thomas Massey and Kentucky 718 00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:54.280 or excuse me of Kentucky and Democrat Rocanna of Roe 719 00:37:54.920 --> 00:38:01.039 excuse me and Democrat Roe Kanna of California, are trying 720 00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:03.920 to force a vote on compelling the Justice Department to 721 00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:07.880 release all documents in this case. They were gathering signatures 722 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.800 on Wednesday and will need the support of two hundred 723 00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:15.280 and eighteen lawmakers to prevail. That means six Republicans must 724 00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:19.800 support the plan. I don't again that statement. They are 725 00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:23.880 politicizing this two hundred and eighteen, which means they need 726 00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:26.480 six Republicans. Oh so it's only Democrats that are going 727 00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:29.519 to sign this. It's only Democrats that want the Epstein 728 00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:32.679 things to be dropped to the public. No Republicans are 729 00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:36.960 going to actually have some moral fiber about themselves that 730 00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:41.800 I hate this. I hate that even as they're talking 731 00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:44.480 about how this is not a political issue, in the 732 00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:48.800 same article they're politicizing it. But all right, it's shameful. 733 00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:51.199 This has been called a hoax. This is not a hoax. 734 00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.800 Massy said. There are real victims to this criminal enterprise, 735 00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:57.639 and the perpetrators are not being protected, or excuse me, 736 00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:01.239 the perpetrators are being protected because they are rich and powerful. 737 00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:05.079 The White House and Republican congressional leaders oppose the release 738 00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:08.119 of all the files, saying it could expose identities of 739 00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:09.199 innocent people. 740 00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:11.199 I got an issue with that. 741 00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:15.039 How would there be identities of innocent people on a 742 00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:19.239 list of scumbags. I'm having a hard time wrapping my 743 00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:22.079 head around this one. And again the list that is 744 00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:25.920 being compiled by these survivors. Now, I could understand how 745 00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:30.639 they don't want the quote unquote client list, because even 746 00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:33.920 while saying that Epstein was a money launder at the 747 00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:37.440 highest levels, right for the billionaires and arguably for the 748 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:41.239 quote unquote trillionaires, if you wanted money to go off radar, 749 00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:43.280 and you didn't need to get tax on or whatever 750 00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:46.159 you called Jeff, that was how this worked, and you 751 00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:49.519 would look past some of his disgusting mannerisms and things 752 00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:52.719 as long as he could make your money disappear. The 753 00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:55.800 women that are the survivors that are coming forward are 754 00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:58.760 not trying to compile a list of the people that 755 00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:02.599 Jeffrey Epstein laundered money for. They're compying a list of 756 00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:07.639 the other guilty parties that were predators. So again, I'm 757 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:11.239 having a hard time wrapping my head around them saying, well, 758 00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:14.480 you'll get innocent people in trouble with this. These women 759 00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:17.559 are not talking about the financial shit. They're talking about 760 00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:23.039 these sex crimes. So yeah, anyway, I really hope that 761 00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:25.679 this gets more traction behind it. I really hope that 762 00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:29.199 these women keep fighting and keep going until they get 763 00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:33.199 the justice that they are deserved. And I personally am 764 00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:36.519 in favor of the chips falling where they may as 765 00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:39.000 far as this goes. If that does mean that half 766 00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:41.400 of DC is empty seats now because there are so 767 00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:45.199 many guilty parties, so be it. If that means that 768 00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:49.559 even in the executive branch of power, we start losing 769 00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:52.400 some people in the jobs that they're currently in, so 770 00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:57.119 be it, I am personally good with that. You know. Anyway, 771 00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:00.719 all right, moving forward, now, let's talk about, well, another 772 00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:03.239 thing that might be more on the positive side of 773 00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:06.840 what the you know, Trump might be involved with the US. 774 00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:12.639 The Justice Department has seized over seven hundred thousand pounds 775 00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:18.840 of neth chemical precursors destined for Mexico Sineloa drug cartel, 776 00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:23.360 and they came from none other than China. Yes, indeed, 777 00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:24.400 let's listen in here. 778 00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.599 We think that this is a very important issue. And 779 00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:32.239 I flew down from Washington because I think that this 780 00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:36.199 is so significant, and I very much appreciate your being 781 00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:38.559 here along with the people who are standing behind me. 782 00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:44.000 Every day, tons of chemicals that are used to create 783 00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:49.599 synthetic drugs like meth and fetamine and fentanyl are shipped 784 00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:56.639 from China to Mexico in China's undeclared war against America 785 00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:02.480 and her citizens. And every day, in funeral homes across 786 00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:07.960 this country we see the tragic consequences of what had 787 00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:13.000 happened in this undeclared war, the families who were forced 788 00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:18.480 to say goodbye to their loved ones because of this scourge. 789 00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:23.199 And so today we announced a very significant seizure of 790 00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:28.800 two shipments of chemicals shipped on two different vessels on 791 00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:33.639 the high seas and route to the Sineloa cartel in 792 00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:35.960 Mexico from China. 793 00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:37.360 To Mexico. 794 00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:42.239 The port of lading was Shanghai, China. The port of 795 00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:48.280 discharge Mexico. What am I talking about. I'm talking about 796 00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:54.159 three hundred and sixty three thousand pounds of benzel alcohol 797 00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:59.679 along with three hundred and thirty four thousand pounds of 798 00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:06.039 methyl formamide. They would have been used to make four 799 00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:12.440 hundred and twenty thousand pounds of methamphetamine, which would have 800 00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:16.159 a street value here in Houston of five hundred and 801 00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:21.000 sixty nine million dollars, with a higher street value as 802 00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:27.119 you go up the northern Northeastern seaboard to New York City. Now, 803 00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:31.519 the labs that were under construction that were being used 804 00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:38.320 to integrate these chemicals to make the methamphetamine were under 805 00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:44.199 the geographical control of the Sinaloa cartels. And these cartels 806 00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:48.400 are capable and are known to make more than one 807 00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:55.800 ton of methamphetamins a week. Now, because President Trump and 808 00:43:55.920 --> 00:44:00.639 Secretary of State Marco Rubio have declared the Sinaloa Cartel 809 00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:04.280 a foreign terrorist organization, it gives all of us in 810 00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:09.320 law enforcement the ability to move quicker and to seize quicker. 811 00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:12.320 And this cartel, as. 812 00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:14.880 I'm sure all of you know, is one of the. 813 00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:22.679 Largest producers and traffickers at ventanyl and they use murder, kidnapping, torture, 814 00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:27.440 and violence as a way of doing business. And let 815 00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:31.440 it be known that anyone who is working with them, 816 00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:35.440 whether they claim innocence or not, if they know that 817 00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:42.039 they are they are providing material support to terrorism. Now, 818 00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:47.960 this government forfeiture today of property allows us to seize 819 00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:53.440 all of the property, whether it is on domestic or 820 00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:59.800 foreign territory, even seizing property outside of the United States. 821 00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:04.880 And that is the significance of the FTO. Now, when 822 00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:06.639 you have a chance, I wanted to take a look 823 00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:12.480 at the barrels behind me. There are thirteen hundred barrels 824 00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:20.280 filled with precursors to methamphetamine. It will take twenty four 825 00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:27.119 eighteen wheelers to take these precursors to a storage facility 826 00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:29.280 in a safe location. 827 00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:31.800 I'm going to say that again, it. 828 00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:37.320 Will take twenty four eighteen wheelers to take these barreg 829 00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:41.559 the barrels to a storage facility in a secure location. 830 00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:49.039 So today's interdiction highlights in incredible work that has been 831 00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:54.559 done by the Homeland Security Investigation as well as Customs 832 00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:59.599 and Border Patrol and my office in Washington, DC, that 833 00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:02.840 was on this case, because this is what we do 834 00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:05.320 wherever it occurs. 835 00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:09.320 Shout out to Janine Pietro or Piro, I should say, 836 00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:12.719 I may not like everything she's ever said ever, but 837 00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:14.760 that's a solid win. 838 00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:18.760 As a solid win, the street value of. 839 00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:24.119 That alone is mind boggling. Right. But again, and I mean, 840 00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:27.119 I'm not saying that China is waging a silent war 841 00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:31.000 against America and that's why they're selling the cartel things 842 00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:32.719 that could be used for drugs that can make its 843 00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:35.760 way to America. At that point, it's it doesn't matter 844 00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.159 where it's being you know, where it's destined to go. 845 00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:41.079 It's a business move, you know. I could understand. 846 00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:44.760 I understand also how somebody in the political sphere would 847 00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:48.440 take that as a type of active war. Okay with you, 848 00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:52.920 but I also the war on drugs, and like, yes, 849 00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:55.519 the cartels are considered a terrorist group now, so China 850 00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:57.480 would be aiding in a terrorist group or giving them 851 00:46:57.519 --> 00:46:58.480 resources for their meals. 852 00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:00.239 Okay, I understand the conversation. 853 00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:06.440 I do, but I don't believe that Jijaping sent drugs 854 00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:09.199 to Mexico or drug making materials. But I'm just gonna 855 00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:11.199 kind of put it all into the same misnumber here, 856 00:47:11.199 --> 00:47:13.559 so bear with me. I don't believe that he did 857 00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:16.800 that in an attempt to wage a silent war against 858 00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:20.400 America specifically. I think it was just a business move 859 00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:23.920 because China is all about that dalla dalla bill. That 860 00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:26.480 being said, I feel like if ever there was a 861 00:47:26.519 --> 00:47:29.679 time to hear from our Malaysian or Hong Kong correspondent, 862 00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:32.599 it would be now, don know Trump, don't trust China, 863 00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:36.159 China is ass ho. I mean, the jokes right themselves 864 00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:38.639 on that one. I didn't even do this, that was 865 00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:41.960 just there, But you know, I still think it played 866 00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:46.000 in very well at this time. Donal Trump, don't trust China, 867 00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:47.119 China is ass ho. 868 00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:51.840 All right, moving on to the next story. 869 00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:54.639 While we were talking about some things that are still 870 00:47:54.679 --> 00:48:00.400 on the American side of the conversation, this evening, Florida 871 00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:05.039 had a thing happen in Tampa where two church leaders 872 00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:09.039 were Oh, actually, no, I'm jumping ahead of myself. We 873 00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:13.679 are going to be talking about some Florida, Tampa people 874 00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:17.440 of the cloth quote unquote who are being arrested for 875 00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:19.519 some nefarious things. We'll talk about that in a moment, 876 00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:23.360 but first let's talk about some of the vaccine mandates 877 00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:27.159 that are coming out. Florida has now passed that says 878 00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:30.960 that we will no longer they will no longer require 879 00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:36.719 vaccines for children, period. And in response to that, certain states, 880 00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:41.079 specifically Washington, Oregon, and California, have decided that they are 881 00:48:41.159 --> 00:48:44.440 going to go the opposite direction and form their own 882 00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:50.199 trifecta of far left conspiracy where they are pretty much 883 00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:53.119 going to do whatever the CDC says that they should do, 884 00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:56.039 and they're going to not just double down, but they're 885 00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:59.599 tripling down to force everyone in these states to get 886 00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:03.599 backs whether they want to or not. Let's first off 887 00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:06.519 start with the Florida conversation and let's learn more together, 888 00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:07.000 shall we? 889 00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:11.360 All right, Caroline, thanks a lot. An attack on vaccine 890 00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:13.079 mandates in the state of Florida. 891 00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:15.719 Today and taking the mandates away is the newest goal 892 00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:19.239 for Governor Ron DeSantis and Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladipoe. 893 00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:21.320 Christ he's here with us now with the strong words 894 00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:22.599 they had today, Christy. 895 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.119 Yeah, this was really a bombshell. During oppresser today, they 896 00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:29.000 announced the state is seeking to eliminate, completely, eliminate all 897 00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:32.719 vaccine mandates and right now the state requires several vaccines, 898 00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:35.320 a number of them for children to attend school, including 899 00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:40.400 shots protecting against measles, tetanus, chicken pox, hepatitis B. The 900 00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:43.159 Surgeon General comparing this to slavery. 901 00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:47.760 Every last one of them is wrong and drips with 902 00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:52.760 disdain and slavery. Everyone on television, all of these medical 903 00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:57.079 leaders were doctor Fauci. Other people were convincing everyone that 904 00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:01.079 the world had to shut down. Everything happen the clothes, right, 905 00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:04.519 you get that amount of energy behind things, and unfortunately 906 00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.400 you're able to change the world. And they did, and 907 00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:10.599 they did shut down the world, They shut down this country, 908 00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:13.719 and they created tremendous harm. 909 00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:14.440 All right. 910 00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:17.280 So the push comes from what they believe were mistakes 911 00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:19.960 made during the twenty twenty pandemic. The push to shut 912 00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.440 down businesses, as you just heard public events at the 913 00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:26.320 time of the pandemic, they said, was tyrannical. According to 914 00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:29.440 the governor, the plan is meant to show Florida is 915 00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:33.320 aligning itself with the Make America Healthy Again movement, champion 916 00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:36.360 of course by Robert F. Kennedy Junior. In fact, we're 917 00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:39.280 already getting lots of reaction coming in when Teachers' union 918 00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:41.840 right here in South Florida. The United Teachers of Day 919 00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:44.599 in response to this plan. They're saying in a statement 920 00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:48.760 that United Teachers of Day is deeply concerned about today's announcement. 921 00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:53.559 Weakening these requirements would put children, families, and our educators 922 00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:57.159 at a greater risk of preventable illness and their outbreaks. 923 00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:01.000 And an important note, the Surgeon General can in mandates 924 00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:03.800 from the Florida Department of Health, but he cannot change 925 00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:06.119 all of the state laws. That does have to be 926 00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:09.239 done by the legislature. So much more to come on this. 927 00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:11.920 A lot of people are talking about this one Illi. 928 00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:16.280 Indeed they are, Indeed they are. And so in response 929 00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:20.440 to this, the West Coast has decide to take the 930 00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:24.880 oppositional stance, and they're going the opposite direction. Let's learn 931 00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:26.920 about that one together, now, shall we not? 932 00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:27.400 For you? 933 00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:31.079 Thanks for being here for Coin six News at noon, 934 00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:31.880 I'm Todd Hunger. 935 00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:32.400 First. 936 00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:35.199 Today, the governors of several West Coast states say they 937 00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:38.599 are teaming up to issue their own vaccine recommendations. The 938 00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:41.719 move is in response to that ongoing chaos at the CDC. 939 00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:45.960 Oregon Governor Tina Kotec, along with California Governor Gavin Newsom, 940 00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:49.719 and Washington Governor Bob Ferguson say they're creating a quote 941 00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.679 West Coast Alliance. They say the goal is to ensure 942 00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:57.519 residents remain protected by science, not politics. The three states also, 943 00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:00.920 of course, work together during the pandemic. The governor cite 944 00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:04.599 a slew of recent CDC firings and resignations as their 945 00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:08.559 main reason, Governor cotecs saying quote through this partnership, the 946 00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:12.960 three states will start coordinating health guidelines by aligning recommendations 947 00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:16.719 informed by respected national organizations. This will allow residents to 948 00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:21.559 receive consistent, science based recommendations they can rely on, regardless 949 00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:25.039 of shifting federal actions. We're working to learn more about 950 00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:28.960 what this means, for example, about COVID nineteen vaccines and 951 00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:32.000 how the federal government is now limiting its recommendations to 952 00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:36.480 seniors or people with weaker immune systems. Coin six reach 953 00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:39.119 out to the Oregon Health Authority with a list of questions, 954 00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:42.639 including what this could mean for those vaccines. No response yet, 955 00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:44.559 but we'll have much more coming up today at four. 956 00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:48.360 Okay, am I the only one that feels like something 957 00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:52.360 bad's about to happen anytime. Washington, Oregon and California team 958 00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:57.320 up for anything. Ever, this West Coast Alliance, as they 959 00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:00.599 are calling it, that doesn't sound like it's ever going 960 00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:03.800 to go positively. If you are living in the states 961 00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:08.519 of Washington, Oregon, or California and you do not want 962 00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:11.559 to live under some sort of a communist rule, I 963 00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:15.199 highly suggest you move at this time somewhere in the 964 00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:19.480 Nation of America that is more inclined for your personal 965 00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:23.679 freedoms and actually has your best interest at heart. I'm 966 00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:26.840 not pointing to any state in particular. I'm just saying 967 00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:30.840 that most of the Midwest, most of the Bible Belt, 968 00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:33.639 you know, stay away from big cities. Obviously, like who 969 00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:35.719 wants to live in a big city. But I'm just 970 00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:38.079 saying overall, if you're living in one of those three states, 971 00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:40.880 things very well could take a very bad turn for 972 00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:44.800 you very soon. So with all that being said, the 973 00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:48.639 CDC and the firings and the hirings and all these 974 00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:50.519 other things that they're talking about, and how they are 975 00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:54.519 going to push against that, now let's talk about this. 976 00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:57.840 Apparently the US this is gonna go a little deeper 977 00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:00.519 in what we just talked about here is set it 978 00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:05.480 toward two very different vaccine realities. California, organ in Washington 979 00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:08.199 said they are forming a public health alliance to provide 980 00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:12.000 credible information quote unquote about vaccine safety. 981 00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:14.400 As Florida is looking to eliminate mandates. 982 00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:18.400 Turmoil at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and 983 00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:21.599 states beginning to take more control of their own vaccine 984 00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:26.199 decisions threaten to fracture the once national consensus around immunization, 985 00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:29.800 setting the stage for a reorganization of the way vaccination 986 00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:33.760 recommendations work across the United States. The move together points 987 00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:37.400 towards an increasingly stark divide emerging in the United States 988 00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:40.639 around vaccinations, with some Republican led states starting to roll 989 00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:44.239 back or eliminate mandates, while Democrat led states split from 990 00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:47.760 the CDC to come up with their own vaccination guidance. 991 00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:49.039 Like we just said. 992 00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:52.239 On Wednesday, which is today, as a time of recording, California, Oregon, 993 00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:56.679 and Washington announced Washington excuse me announced they are forming 994 00:54:56.719 --> 00:55:00.519 a public health alliance to provide quote unquote credible information. 995 00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:04.360 Last week, New Mexico's health department announced it was ordering 996 00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:08.840 pharmacies to quote remove potential barriers and ensure access to 997 00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:13.639 COVID nineteen vaccines end quote cal Colorado did. 998 00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:14.559 The same Wednesday. 999 00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:20.199 Also Wednesday, Florida Surgeon General doctor Joseph Ledoppo, moved to 1000 00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:24.480 eliminate vaccination mandates across the state, including in public schools. 1001 00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:28.079 Other states have also weighed rolling back vaccination mandates, most 1002 00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:31.280 notably Texas, where dozens of anti mandate bills have been 1003 00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:35.519 introduced in the legislature. The split comes as once fringe 1004 00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:40.440 and long debunked claims long debunked yeah claims about the 1005 00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:43.960 health risks of vaccinations have found mainstream appeal and have 1006 00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:48.199 been embraced by the Trump administration, repeatedly hearing the vaccines 1007 00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:52.320 cause autism or that mRNA vaccine will alter your DNA 1008 00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:58.239 can a road Public trust doctor Peter chen Hong god 1009 00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:02.199 the jokes right themselves after Peter chen Hong and infectious 1010 00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:06.440 disease expert at the University of California, San Francisco, referring 1011 00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:09.519 to two of the most common pieces of vaccine information. 1012 00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:13.480 For decades, the federal government, in close collaboration with infectious 1013 00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:17.480 disease experts, has crafted guidelines for who should receive vaccinations 1014 00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:20.880 and win states and medical organizations use the guidelines to 1015 00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:24.639 administer shots to millions of people and insurance companies relied 1016 00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:31.000 on them to determine payment. Insurance companies relied on them 1017 00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:35.119 to determine payment. I just felt like that would need 1018 00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:37.639 to be read again for everybody in the back. The 1019 00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:40.960 recommendations are based on clinical studies and aim to minimize 1020 00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:45.639 both individual and societal risk, but as vaccine hesitancy has 1021 00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:48.559 skyrocketed in the wake of the COVID nineteen pandemic and 1022 00:56:48.679 --> 00:56:53.480 online information campaigns, vaccination mandates have become a political flashpoint. 1023 00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:57.039 This trust in vaccines has created a rift that threatens 1024 00:56:57.039 --> 00:57:01.280 to split the country into two distinct zones. He delineated 1025 00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:04.920 by not by borders or geography, but by state government 1026 00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:08.559 stances on medical establishment's right to dictate who must get 1027 00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:11.840 a JAB and who gets a pass. In an op 1028 00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:14.719 ed Tuesday The Wall Street Journal, Health and Human Services 1029 00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:20.480 Secretary Robert F. Kennedy described quote cloth masks on toddlers arbitrary, 1030 00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:25.079 six foot distancing boosters for healthy children, prolonged school closing, 1031 00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:29.199 economic economy crushing lockdowns, and the suppression of low cost 1032 00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:34.360 therapeutics in favor of experimental and ineffective drugs as irrational 1033 00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:40.119 policies that have devastating tolls on Americans. I really can't 1034 00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:43.159 find any lies detected in the statement that RFK Junior 1035 00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:45.679 just said. But yes, there's going to be people that 1036 00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:49.360 are saying that he's crazy. But all right. Lockdowns and 1037 00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:52.880 school closures certainly had economic and mental health drawbacks, and 1038 00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:56.719 data suggests that vaccinated and unvaccinated people may transmit the 1039 00:57:56.800 --> 00:58:01.000 virus at a similar rate because they have parable viral 1040 00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:05.079 loads or amount of virus virus in their respiratory tracks, 1041 00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:08.119 according to a twenty twenty two paper in the Lancet 1042 00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:13.800 Infectious Diseases. So they already acknowledge that lockdowns and school 1043 00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:17.519 closures were a very bad idea, and that the data 1044 00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:20.159 suggests that whether you get vaccinated or not, it really 1045 00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:24.519 won't make that much of a difference. Okay. Cool. However, 1046 00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:27.800 the vaccines were effective at reducing hospitalizations and the number 1047 00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:31.440 of severe COVID cases, two factors that overwhelmed healthcare systems 1048 00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:35.440 early in the pandemic and precipitated lockdowns in the United 1049 00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:38.000 States and around the world. Now, actually, I'm gonna push 1050 00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:43.079 back on that one. INBC, the number of deaths that 1051 00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:46.159 were caused because of COVID were because y'all were putting 1052 00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:51.559 them on respirators in the beginning, because realistically, if you 1053 00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:53.760 look at all of the symptoms of COVID nineteen and 1054 00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:56.400 you look at the symptoms of a really bad flu case, 1055 00:58:57.039 --> 00:59:00.119 they are extremely comparable. This would be like this, a 1056 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:02.159 might going to the hospital for a severe case of 1057 00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:05.320 the flu and getting put on a respirator. It's not 1058 00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:08.239 that that was crazy. There was crazy things that happened. 1059 00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:12.159 The hot and the number of hospitalizations, yeah, because most 1060 00:59:12.159 --> 00:59:14.280 people didn't want to go to the hospital because they 1061 00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:16.639 knew that other sick people were at the hospital and 1062 00:59:16.679 --> 00:59:20.199 it would make it exponentially worse. Vaccines didn't fix that. 1063 00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:23.960 People's common sense actually fix that. But okay, I know, 1064 00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:27.639 I'm just a crazy conspiracy theorist. Once COVID vaccines became 1065 00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:30.239 available at the end of twenty twenty, following intense investment 1066 00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:33.679 by the first Trump administration, states started to ease lockdowns 1067 00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:37.960 and social distancing rules. What didn't let up and still hasn't, 1068 00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:40.960 was the fear around purported dangers of the new COVID shots, 1069 00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:43.800 which were developed using a new type of vaccine technology 1070 00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:48.519 known as mRNA that was at once revolutionary but difficult 1071 00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:51.920 to understand and that's the other thing too. They're saying 1072 00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:55.360 that in this article, they're saying that the long debunked 1073 00:59:55.440 --> 01:00:00.159 claims that mRNA does not actually affect your DNA, even 1074 01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:04.480 though genealogists will tell you the opposite of that. If 1075 01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:07.360 you inject the mRNA from one of these vaccines, it 1076 01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:12.159 absolutely will change your genetic structure. That's not a debated 1077 01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:15.519 or debunked thing. That's an understood scientific fact from the 1078 01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:19.840 experts in that field. But okay, the novelty compounded the 1079 01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:22.800 uncertainties around the long term health repercussions of a previously 1080 01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:28.159 unknown virus. Oh my god, okay, previously unknown virus. Bro 1081 01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:31.280 Life saw bottles that say that's effective against ninety nine 1082 01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:35.039 point nine percent of bacteria had COVID on the label. 1083 01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:37.280 If you read the back of what it's effective against. 1084 01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:40.559 They've had COVID on the label since two thousand and five. 1085 01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:44.119 What are you talking about? A previously unknown virus? But 1086 01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:47.920 all right, all right, any a calm down. And the 1087 01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:51.559 pervasive feeling of loss the pandemic created, including loss of 1088 01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:57.159 personal freedoms, that created the perfect conditions for divisiveness over vaccinations, 1089 01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:02.320 Chin Hong said, And the COVID shots became easy scapegoat. 1090 01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:06.280 I saidwear I at Chinghong. Dude, I can't, I can't. 1091 01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:09.280 I'm gonna be good. The vaccine is something you could 1092 01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:12.440 focus on instead of a general feeling of loss. He said, no, 1093 01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:16.280 it's it's not the feeling of loss. We were focusing 1094 01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:20.239 on the fact that this vaccine, this quote unquote miracle 1095 01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:23.760 was developed in six months with no long term clinical 1096 01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:27.400 trials for a virus that you have known about for 1097 01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:30.159 the better part of two decades. Right, the Wuhan lab 1098 01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:32.800 didn't like just start working on it that year by 1099 01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:35.519 any means. So you knew what the virus was, you 1100 01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:38.639 knew that what it could do, and you also knew 1101 01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:44.960 how relatively dangerous it was and the relative survivability of it. 1102 01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:48.360 But yes, let's all go and line up to get 1103 01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:52.039 injected with a substance that has not been tested. We 1104 01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:54.239 have no idea what the long term effects are. And 1105 01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:57.519 I could be honest with you, I personally know multiple 1106 01:01:57.519 --> 01:01:59.960 people and I don't mean like three, I mean multiple 1107 01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:03.320 people that have had long term effects from the vaccine. 1108 01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:05.800 And I know people that have died because of the vaccine. 1109 01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:10.239 It wasn't COVID that killed them, but I digress. Kennedy, 1110 01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:12.719 along with the highest profile figures of the once small 1111 01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:16.719 anti vaccine movement, was confirmed as HHS Secretary, as he 1112 01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:19.960 struck a more moderate tone on vaccines, which he has 1113 01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:25.199 since abandoned. In June, Kennedy gutted a seventeen person independent 1114 01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:29.280 Vaccine Advisory Committee in the CDC. He replaced the members 1115 01:02:29.360 --> 01:02:32.639 with a group that included vaccine skeptics and people critical 1116 01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:35.920 of the COVID vaccines. In early August, he also cut 1117 01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:40.960 five hundred million in mRNA vaccine contracts. Good, that's almost 1118 01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:43.199 like what we wanted him to do, but all right. 1119 01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:46.280 After the FDA approved a new version of the COVID 1120 01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:49.079 vaccine in May, Kennedy announced that the CDC would recommend 1121 01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:52.320 that doctors administer the shots only to adults age sixty 1122 01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:54.760 five and above, as well as people with certain pre 1123 01:02:54.840 --> 01:02:59.800 existing conditions. Previously, COVID vaccinations were recommended more widely. Yeah, 1124 01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:02.519 you remember, they were trying to pass that it be 1125 01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:05.880 administered to children like it was. They were trying to 1126 01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:07.159 make it to where it was a part of your 1127 01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:10.000 regular When I say regular, I use the quotes on this. 1128 01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:15.039 Please don't frime me. All the seventy two vaccines that 1129 01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.000 a child gets from the time they're born to the 1130 01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:20.599 time they graduated high school. They were trying to mandate 1131 01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:23.480 that the COVID vaccine be added to that list for 1132 01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:27.000 like pre pubescent children who are still in the forming 1133 01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:31.599 stages of life. But sure, Okay, yeah, more widely, that's 1134 01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:35.320 a that's a claim. Following that change, the American Academy 1135 01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:38.440 of Pediatrics took the unusual step of issuing its own 1136 01:03:38.519 --> 01:03:42.840 vaccination recommendations the first time in thirty years. Its guidelines 1137 01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:46.679 were significantly different from the federal government. Quote here, it 1138 01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:49.639 is going to be somewhat confusing, but our opinion is 1139 01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:52.000 we need to make the right choices for children and 1140 01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:55.639 protect them. Doctor James Campbell, vice chair of the Academy's 1141 01:03:55.719 --> 01:04:01.199 Infectious Disease Committee, told NBC News, So listen, pro vax, 1142 01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:04.000 anti vax, have your own opinion on it, Okay. All 1143 01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:05.320 I'm going to say is that if you're willing to 1144 01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:07.079 die on a hill, at least let it be a 1145 01:04:07.199 --> 01:04:10.920 hill that you truly believe in. Okay. But with that 1146 01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:14.039 being said, and all these things going around with RFK junior, 1147 01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:17.599 these vaccines, these states kind of forming their own alliances 1148 01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:23.280 and things. Now the HHS employees are demanding the resignation 1149 01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:27.199 of RFK Junior. This dropped this afternoon. Let's listen in 1150 01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:28.159 right now. 1151 01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:31.440 Over a thousand current and former Health and Human Services 1152 01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:35.039 employees are calling for Robert F. Kennedy's resignation. The group 1153 01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:37.280 sent a letter to Congress saying the leadership of the 1154 01:04:37.320 --> 01:04:40.159 Secretary of Health and Human Services has quote put the 1155 01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:42.920 health of all Americans at risk. They also claim his 1156 01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:46.920 vaccine policies are dangerous. Democrats say he needs to go. 1157 01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:49.360 Republicans are standing by him. 1158 01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:51.760 We know what scientists are saying. 1159 01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:54.760 We know what the health the health experts are saying, 1160 01:04:55.280 --> 01:05:00.239 and it's not what is coming out of Secretary Kennedy's 1161 01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:02.639 This is about how we protect the children of the 1162 01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:04.360 United States of America, and. 1163 01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:08.159 There's allegations that that that health. 1164 01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:08.760 Is being endangered. 1165 01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:12.880 Kennedy is said to testify before Congress tomorrow. 1166 01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:16.960 Okay, so as up time of recording, we have no 1167 01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:20.760 idea what RFK is going to be testifying in court 1168 01:05:21.079 --> 01:05:25.079 and saying in all these things. However, I can't really 1169 01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:27.360 disagree with a lot of the claims that he has made. Yes, 1170 01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:31.480 I understand that he has gone and said some very 1171 01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:36.599 bold things about vaccines in general. Okay, and listen, agree 1172 01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:39.159 with them, disagree with them. I'm not gonna tell you 1173 01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:41.000 how to parent your child. Don't tell me not to 1174 01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:41.639 parent mind. 1175 01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:42.159 Okay. 1176 01:05:42.159 --> 01:05:44.639 If you are the type that wants to ensure your 1177 01:05:44.679 --> 01:05:48.880 child doesn't get measles or mumps or whatever else, okay, cool. 1178 01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:50.760 And I'm not saying I give a thumbs up or 1179 01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:53.719 thumbs down to this. That is a you decision. You 1180 01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:56.119 raise your children the way you want to raise them. 1181 01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:58.559 I for one, believe in personal freedoms, and I believe 1182 01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:02.000 that if a if a couple wants to keep their 1183 01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:06.039 child unvaccinated for whatever that reason may be, that is 1184 01:06:06.079 --> 01:06:09.719 their choice. I may have some opinions on that, but 1185 01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:11.519 at the end of the day, that's just what it is. 1186 01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:17.360 This being said, the COVID vaccine is a different conversation 1187 01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:19.800 than the rest of the vaccines that are on the 1188 01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:21.559 docket right now. And I'm not even saying that I 1189 01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:23.280 fully agree with the rest of the vaccines that are 1190 01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:25.800 on the docket. I for one, am of the belief 1191 01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:29.920 that some of the vaccines are being done. I'm not 1192 01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:32.360 gonna say in the right way, Yes, there are things 1193 01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:35.360 that have been added to them since their original formation, 1194 01:06:35.480 --> 01:06:37.840 and I get that right, and we do need to 1195 01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:42.159 remove some of the more harmful components of the vaccinations 1196 01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:44.719 that we do administer to children. I think that everybody 1197 01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:48.320 could agree with that. Okay, I've seen something saying that, 1198 01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:52.199 like the type of mercury that's in some of these vaccines, 1199 01:06:52.519 --> 01:06:56.199 it's different from regular mercury and all these things. Listen, 1200 01:06:56.239 --> 01:06:58.599 the fact is that when your body comes in contact 1201 01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:02.639 with mercury, it only sees it as mercury. Yes, I understand, 1202 01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:06.039 chemically it's different. I totally get that. That's like saying 1203 01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:09.400 your body responds differently from adderall than it does to 1204 01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:13.360 crystal meth. Listen, your body's gonna respond to an anphetamine 1205 01:07:13.559 --> 01:07:15.320 the way it responds to an anphetamine. 1206 01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:16.079 I'm sorry. 1207 01:07:16.159 --> 01:07:18.840 Yes, it might be chemically different, absolutely, and it might 1208 01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:21.519 be a lower dose and all the I fully hear that, 1209 01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:25.559 and I you know, gotcha, but it's gonna be responding 1210 01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:29.280 in the exact same fashion. So that's just one point 1211 01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:32.159 I am of the belief personally, and this is just 1212 01:07:32.239 --> 01:07:35.599 Jacob speaking on behalf of Jacob. Here. We could give 1213 01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:40.119 the vaccines that we know are effective polio measles momps. 1214 01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:41.000 Yeah, I guess if. 1215 01:07:40.880 --> 01:07:42.920 You're going to an area of the like if you're 1216 01:07:42.960 --> 01:07:44.800 going in the world to a place that has a 1217 01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:46.639 lot of dangerous things there, and like you want to 1218 01:07:46.679 --> 01:07:50.719 get something for malaria, you want to get something for smallpox, Okay, 1219 01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:52.760 but like that shouldn't be something that we give to 1220 01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:55.880 the children in America. A lot of these sicknesses and 1221 01:07:55.920 --> 01:08:00.199 illnesses have since been pretty much kicked out of our country. Yeah, 1222 01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:02.199 there's a few cases of like the plague in very 1223 01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:04.199 small sections and all these things, and I get that, 1224 01:08:04.639 --> 01:08:06.679 but I'm also not looking to go get my bubonic 1225 01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:10.280 plague vaccine right now. You see what I'm saying. There's 1226 01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:14.800 a limit, and there is a a justifiable level of 1227 01:08:14.920 --> 01:08:19.800 vaccines that I think that most freethinking and logical adults 1228 01:08:19.920 --> 01:08:22.960 could say, Yes, these vaccines we can approve. We might 1229 01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:25.800 need to make some alterations and changes. But to say 1230 01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:30.199 that you're giving over fifty vaccines, I would I'm much 1231 01:08:30.199 --> 01:08:33.000 lower be preferred. But just bear with me here. If 1232 01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:36.239 you're giving that many vaccines to a child from the 1233 01:08:36.279 --> 01:08:39.560 time they're born to the time they graduate high school, brother, 1234 01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:44.079 what are we talking about? Here. That's preposterous. That's just 1235 01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:45.680 my own two cents. I know there's gonna be a 1236 01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:47.079 lot of people that say that I don't know what 1237 01:08:47.079 --> 01:08:49.640 I'm talking about, and that is fine. I would love 1238 01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:51.520 to hear about it in the comments. I want to 1239 01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:53.680 get some interaction on these shows. If you're listening on 1240 01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:57.520 Spotify or Apple Podcasts right now, or on iHeart or 1241 01:08:57.520 --> 01:08:59.640 whatever the case is, if you have the ability to 1242 01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:01.960 leave a comment under these episodes, please do. 1243 01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:03.960 I would love to hear from the thousands of people 1244 01:09:03.960 --> 01:09:04.680 that listen to the show. 1245 01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:05.319 I would love to. 1246 01:09:05.279 --> 01:09:06.880 Hear more from you. I would love to get more 1247 01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:07.640 interaction here. 1248 01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:13.119 Anyway, Let's continue, all right, moving off with the vaccine conversation. Now, 1249 01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:17.439 let's talk about these Florida leaders arrested in a multimillion 1250 01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:23.039 dollar conspiracy after FBI raids. Oh, buckle up for this one, everybody. 1251 01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:24.439 This is this is a wild one. 1252 01:09:24.760 --> 01:09:28.000 Two church leaders with ties to Tampa are facing federal 1253 01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:31.359 charges tonight. They're at the center of what investigators are 1254 01:09:31.399 --> 01:09:36.159 calling a multi million dollar conspiracy involving money laundering, forced labor, 1255 01:09:36.199 --> 01:09:40.239 and abuse. This follows multiple FBI raids this morning, including 1256 01:09:40.279 --> 01:09:43.560 at a home in the affluent Avalone neighborhood in Hillsborough County. 1257 01:09:44.119 --> 01:09:47.319 This was part of a nationwide takedown. Fox thirteen is 1258 01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:51.000 covering this investigation from multiple angles. Our Kylie Jones is 1259 01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:53.720 at the Federal Courthouse in Tampa, diving deeper into the 1260 01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:56.199 church and it's leaders. But we begin with Aaron Mesmer 1261 01:09:56.239 --> 01:09:59.159 Live and Avala with more on the raid and reaction 1262 01:09:59.239 --> 01:09:59.880 from neighbors. 1263 01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:04.640 Paron Yeah, Heley and these neighbors were absolutely stunned by 1264 01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:05.640 what went on this morning. 1265 01:10:05.640 --> 01:10:06.880 Neighbors in this community, they. 1266 01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:11.239 Woke up to helicopters and FBI agents raiding a home 1267 01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:14.319 in Novla, And once they found out why those federal 1268 01:10:14.319 --> 01:10:16.319 agents were there, it was even more surprising. 1269 01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:19.239 Some of you say, I don't have one hundred thousand, 1270 01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:22.159 but you have twenty thousand, you have fifty thousand. 1271 01:10:22.239 --> 01:10:23.600 Here, you have ten thousand. 1272 01:10:23.880 --> 01:10:26.640 That's video of David Taylor asking viewers to send money 1273 01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:30.359 to his church. Federal authorities now say Taylor used donations 1274 01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:34.439 to fund an extravagant lifestyle that included this massive mansion 1275 01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:38.399 in Tampa's affluent Novela community. FBI agents raided the home 1276 01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:39.199 Wednesday morning. 1277 01:10:39.319 --> 01:10:41.960 It's very surprising to hear that type of thing was 1278 01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:43.600 going on again right in your backyard. 1279 01:10:43.800 --> 01:10:46.439 It's unclear what authorities took from the home. This view 1280 01:10:46.439 --> 01:10:49.359 from Skyfox shows several cars lined up with gift bos 1281 01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:52.279 on top. Neighbors say the ten bedroom, ten and a 1282 01:10:52.319 --> 01:10:55.600 half bathroom, twenty eight thousand square foot mansion is one 1283 01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:57.279 of the largest in Novela. 1284 01:10:57.000 --> 01:10:59.159 Because there was a how could a pass or Ford 1285 01:10:59.199 --> 01:11:01.039 to live in a house like that? 1286 01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:04.039 According to the twenty three page federal indictment, this house 1287 01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:06.720 is one of several properties throughout the country purchased by 1288 01:11:06.720 --> 01:11:10.039 Taylor's Kingdom of God Global Church. He's the pastor and 1289 01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:12.800 referred to himself as an apostle, according to court documents. 1290 01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:16.359 The indictment alleges Taylor recruited people to work at call centers, 1291 01:11:16.359 --> 01:11:20.159 referring to them as armor bearers. Investigators say they were 1292 01:11:20.159 --> 01:11:24.119 his quote personal servants who fulfilled Tailor's demands around the clock. 1293 01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:24.920 And were never paid. 1294 01:11:25.439 --> 01:11:28.399 Taylor and executive director Michelle Brannon are accused of controlling 1295 01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:31.359 nearly every aspect of the workers' lives, cutting them off 1296 01:11:31.399 --> 01:11:34.880 from family, and forcing them to take contraceptives. Human trafficking 1297 01:11:34.880 --> 01:11:37.560 advocates say it's a devastating situation, and. 1298 01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:41.199 You really had every aspect of human trafficking. You had 1299 01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:46.479 individuals who were brought to a facility that they couldn't leave. 1300 01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:50.319 They weren't being paid, they had production goals that they 1301 01:11:50.359 --> 01:11:51.159 had to meet. 1302 01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:53.760 And authorities say if the workers failed to reach Taylor's 1303 01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:58.319 monetary goals, they faced punishment including public humiliation, food and 1304 01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:03.399 shelter restrictions, sleep deprivations, and physical and psychological abuse. The 1305 01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:06.199 Crisis Center of Tampa Bay CEO says these victims will 1306 01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:09.359 likely face a long recovery. She says, there's another lesson 1307 01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:10.960 every community can learn from this. 1308 01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:13.760 This can happen in one of our most affluent zip 1309 01:12:13.760 --> 01:12:17.000 codes in Hillsborough County. It can happen in your backyard. 1310 01:12:17.039 --> 01:12:18.319 It could happen in my backyard. 1311 01:12:18.520 --> 01:12:21.319 As for the folks who lived with alleged human trafficking, fraud, 1312 01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:24.560 and money laundering happening in their backyards. 1313 01:12:24.079 --> 01:12:27.279 I hope it's not true, but if it is, you know, 1314 01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:29.000 he deserves everything he's going to get. 1315 01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:32.800 And there was also what appeared to be a federal 1316 01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:35.560 command center set up just north of here at Saint 1317 01:12:35.680 --> 01:12:39.000 Joseph's Hospital in Lut's. Experts say if there were any 1318 01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:42.000 human trafficking victims at this property, they likely would have 1319 01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:44.119 been taken to a nearby hospital for care. 1320 01:12:44.439 --> 01:12:47.279 Healley so they can get all the help they need. 1321 01:12:47.319 --> 01:12:49.439 It sounds like they have been through quite a lot. 1322 01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:50.680 Aaron, thank you. 1323 01:12:51.359 --> 01:12:56.039 Okay, So let's just break that down a little deeper, 1324 01:12:56.159 --> 01:13:00.600 shall we. First of all, your boy asking people for 1325 01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:04.800 tens and twenty and thirty thousand dollars to reach a 1326 01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:08.279 goal that he's using to furnish his lavish lifestyle one 1327 01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:11.239 of the biggest homes in this affluent neighborhood. See, this 1328 01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:14.279 is the issue I have, right, I don't have an 1329 01:13:14.319 --> 01:13:20.199 issue with big churches, not inherently, not necessarily or big. 1330 01:13:20.359 --> 01:13:23.319 Let's just call it religious groups, not just a church 1331 01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:25.279 of the Christian variety or of the Jewish or the 1332 01:13:25.359 --> 01:13:27.399 Muslim or the Buddhist or whatever. If you have a 1333 01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:30.920 leader of a congregation that is living well and I 1334 01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:33.319 don't mean as the wealthiest of the one percent with 1335 01:13:33.399 --> 01:13:35.399 a fleet of private jets and stuff, let's keep it 1336 01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:37.600 within the realm of reality. We're not talking Kenneth Cope 1337 01:13:37.680 --> 01:13:42.720 and her jolosting. These clowns are ridiculous. But if you 1338 01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:45.520 have a past that's living well and his congregation is 1339 01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:49.159 thousands of people strong. I don't inherently have a problem 1340 01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:52.119 with that right off the rip. I'm a little trepidacious 1341 01:13:52.159 --> 01:13:56.000 of it, but I don't hate it. Right, But if 1342 01:13:56.039 --> 01:14:00.840 I also see the pastor calling himself an apostle, which 1343 01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:06.119 is blasphemous and wild, but I digress. Who's driving in 1344 01:14:06.199 --> 01:14:10.680 the fanciest cars living in a house like that? Yeah, 1345 01:14:10.760 --> 01:14:12.840 now I have a problem because I promise you there's 1346 01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:15.439 members of your congregation that are riding the struggle bus 1347 01:14:15.560 --> 01:14:19.359 right now, and you, as their spiritual father, their shepherd, 1348 01:14:19.640 --> 01:14:22.560 if you will, should be doing what you can to 1349 01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:28.720 better your community, your congregation, and possibly paying it forward 1350 01:14:29.199 --> 01:14:32.039 and using those righteous dollar bills to do the Lord's 1351 01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:36.199 work for some of the more downtrodden members of your congregation. Right, 1352 01:14:36.399 --> 01:14:39.319 that's my issue I have. But I also want to 1353 01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:42.039 point out the fact that he on his website that 1354 01:14:42.119 --> 01:14:45.560 clean cut picture of him cut to his mugshot where 1355 01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:48.039 his hair looks like he's going out of his mind. 1356 01:14:48.119 --> 01:14:51.399 I thought that was a great transitional clip. But yeah, 1357 01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:54.520 before you read the article, Royce, go ahead and weigh 1358 01:14:54.520 --> 01:14:55.479 in on this one. Dog. 1359 01:14:56.479 --> 01:14:59.920 So I don't know if you remember about a month ago, 1360 01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:02.239 I said, Hey, look at this guy named DAVIDY. 1361 01:15:02.319 --> 01:15:02.680 Taylor. 1362 01:15:03.560 --> 01:15:05.960 This is this gentleman, this is the person that my 1363 01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:07.199 mother was involved with. 1364 01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:13.920 No, yeah, involved with in what way? Royce. I didn't 1365 01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:16.760 realize we would have a first person correspondent on this one. 1366 01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:17.720 Tell me more. 1367 01:15:19.720 --> 01:15:23.000 So, my mother left my my grandmother was not as 1368 01:15:23.119 --> 01:15:25.520 to doing so well. My mother was living with her 1369 01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:29.000 and my mother literally but he was living in Michigan 1370 01:15:29.760 --> 01:15:33.359 number of years ago, and my mother literally left my 1371 01:15:33.359 --> 01:15:36.880 grandmother in the hospital to go to like live at 1372 01:15:36.880 --> 01:15:40.560 this like church facility and like she was talking about 1373 01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:43.640 like prayer groups until like two, three, four in the 1374 01:15:43.680 --> 01:15:44.920 morning and. 1375 01:15:44.880 --> 01:15:47.880 Like they're one of the followers. 1376 01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:52.159 Had some sort of dream that said that if anybody 1377 01:15:52.199 --> 01:15:56.800 didn't believe that David Taylor was not an apostle, and 1378 01:15:56.880 --> 01:15:59.520 literally he and my mother even called him to oh, well, 1379 01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:04.239 you know apostle, that God was going to strike down 1380 01:16:04.359 --> 01:16:08.960 and punish those who were involved if they didn't believe him, 1381 01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:12.039 and that included the people like an extended family. So 1382 01:16:12.079 --> 01:16:15.479 my mother actually cut off ties from my grandmother and 1383 01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:21.159 myself and my entire family because of this quote unquote dream. 1384 01:16:21.479 --> 01:16:22.960 So she did this for a number of years and 1385 01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:25.880 then later on she actually you know, got married to 1386 01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:30.600 a another preacher, pastor a couple of years ago. But 1387 01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:35.520 like before that point, she was literally religiously going to 1388 01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:38.119 this person and she sent like my mother or my 1389 01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:41.880 grandmother and myself brochures and then literally on the grochure 1390 01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:45.439 as it said, you know, send your inheritance, send your gold, 1391 01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:48.279 send your silver, send send your car, send your money, 1392 01:16:48.720 --> 01:16:51.600 send you know, and then you know, like well, so 1393 01:16:51.720 --> 01:16:55.520 Jesus says, if you if you give, then you know, 1394 01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:58.159 then you will be given back, you know, thirty fold 1395 01:16:58.239 --> 01:16:59.199 or three or whatever. 1396 01:16:59.279 --> 01:17:02.880 Oh my god, I hey, the prosperity gospel groups, Oh 1397 01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:05.520 my God. And I've gone on rants about these clowns 1398 01:17:05.560 --> 01:17:08.640 before this. That is Kenneth Copeland, that is Joel Osin, 1399 01:17:08.720 --> 01:17:13.079 that is the what is it the International World Church 1400 01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:15.720 that I have just two cities away from here. This guy, 1401 01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:19.399 this clown forces members of his congregation who are driving 1402 01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:21.479 you know, more beat up cars to park at the 1403 01:17:21.600 --> 01:17:23.880 back of the parking lot, but those that are driving 1404 01:17:23.960 --> 01:17:26.439 nicer cars are allowed to park up front by the street. 1405 01:17:26.520 --> 01:17:30.039 And he has been preaching about prosperity and ye shall 1406 01:17:30.079 --> 01:17:35.119 receive if only you give for the past thirty years. Bro, 1407 01:17:35.439 --> 01:17:36.319 it is it is. 1408 01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:38.560 Oh, it infuriates me so much. 1409 01:17:39.960 --> 01:17:41.760 Oh my god. Yeah so yeah. 1410 01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:47.439 So if not for my mother's new husband, she would 1411 01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:53.159 have been involved to this day. And yeah, it was bad. 1412 01:17:53.199 --> 01:17:54.600 That's why I was telling you to do some research 1413 01:17:54.640 --> 01:17:58.359 on this guy. He sees fucking nuts and like bad 1414 01:17:58.399 --> 01:17:59.479 news bears all around. 1415 01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:02.880 Well, thank god, justice is being served on this asshole. 1416 01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:05.560 And I really hope that he gets the entire book 1417 01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:10.680 thrown at him and gets under the jail. You see this, 1418 01:18:12.319 --> 01:18:14.880 Listen for any of the listeners out there that might 1419 01:18:15.159 --> 01:18:21.199 be of the Christian variety. Okay, this is what Jesus 1420 01:18:21.239 --> 01:18:23.720 had an issue with when he went to the temple 1421 01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:25.720 and said that you've turned my father's house into a 1422 01:18:25.760 --> 01:18:30.520 den of thieves. It's this, this, this is the problem. Yes, 1423 01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:33.000 he was talking about these specific pharisees at that time 1424 01:18:33.039 --> 01:18:37.760 that were charging excess money to change money for the sacrifice. 1425 01:18:37.800 --> 01:18:42.319 And yeah, there's levels of context and historical precedents involved 1426 01:18:42.319 --> 01:18:45.159 with that specific situation, and I understand this. 1427 01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:51.399 My point is, this is the scourge that. 1428 01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:55.399 Is plaguing the majority of the Protestant faith as of 1429 01:18:55.439 --> 01:18:58.600 this moment. Yes, you do have those that take advantage 1430 01:18:58.600 --> 01:19:01.920 of people in physics and in sexual ways, and they 1431 01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:05.119 are also discussing and need to be fried alive. And 1432 01:19:05.199 --> 01:19:09.399 I'm not taking away that whatsoever. But these people that 1433 01:19:09.439 --> 01:19:14.159 are preaching about prosperity, like you said, listen, having prayer 1434 01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:16.319 groups to last until two in the morning, four in 1435 01:19:16.359 --> 01:19:20.000 the morning, and stuff. If you're having a meeting and 1436 01:19:20.119 --> 01:19:23.560 like the conversation is flowing that well, and like the 1437 01:19:23.880 --> 01:19:25.800 spirit of God is moving in that meeting or whatever, 1438 01:19:25.840 --> 01:19:28.840 and things go longer and like really longer than expected 1439 01:19:29.439 --> 01:19:33.880 on the rarest of occasions, I don't necessarily have a 1440 01:19:33.880 --> 01:19:34.479 problem with it. 1441 01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:36.479 Okay, fine, if that's the. 1442 01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:39.520 Norm, If once a week or even multiple times a 1443 01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:43.439 week your prayer meetings are going that long, yeah, that's 1444 01:19:43.479 --> 01:19:47.359 a massive red flag, massive red flag. And I'm sure 1445 01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:49.920 because there's so many parts of the Bible where Jesus 1446 01:19:49.920 --> 01:19:52.239 made a reference of like, you know, if you really 1447 01:19:52.279 --> 01:19:54.960 want to follow me, sell all of your possessions and 1448 01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:58.720 pick up and follow me. He's not telling every single 1449 01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:02.039 person on earth to become a beggar and then you'll 1450 01:20:02.079 --> 01:20:03.199 fully understand. 1451 01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:03.560 The love of Christ. 1452 01:20:03.920 --> 01:20:07.159 Okay, that was specifically to that gentleman who was speaking 1453 01:20:07.159 --> 01:20:09.640 to him at that moment, because that guy was way 1454 01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:13.760 too tied to his earthly possessions. There's context on that, okay. 1455 01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:18.520 But so many of these quote unquote men and women 1456 01:20:18.560 --> 01:20:22.800 of God take things, misquote it, give it to their congregation, 1457 01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:25.920 and the people in their congregation never actually open the 1458 01:20:25.920 --> 01:20:28.439 Bible themselves and study it for themselves. 1459 01:20:28.720 --> 01:20:31.439 They just go along and listen to whatever mister Paserman says. 1460 01:20:31.880 --> 01:20:34.520 I have such an issue with that at just all 1461 01:20:34.560 --> 01:20:35.880 the way down to my core. 1462 01:20:36.279 --> 01:20:40.199 Okay, this guy having a ten bedroom, ten and a 1463 01:20:40.279 --> 01:20:45.000 half bathroom mansion, multiple cars out front with ribbons on them, 1464 01:20:45.039 --> 01:20:47.279 and I guarantee he wasn't about to give those two 1465 01:20:47.319 --> 01:20:50.159 poor members of his church. All those cars looked like 1466 01:20:50.159 --> 01:20:56.079 they were a high end, expensive luxury vehicles. Yeah, and now, okay, 1467 01:20:56.720 --> 01:21:01.640 the forced labor. That's interesting. Calling them his armor bearers. Again, 1468 01:21:01.720 --> 01:21:04.880 you're gonna take a quote from the Bible to talk 1469 01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:08.600 about putting on your spiritual armor daily, and those that 1470 01:21:08.680 --> 01:21:13.319 pretty much commit their entire lives to serving you, pastor man, 1471 01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:15.760 you're going to give them that kind of title and 1472 01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:19.760 all that. That's that is also pretty crazy. I don't 1473 01:21:19.800 --> 01:21:22.680 know to what level the human trafficking goes with this, 1474 01:21:22.720 --> 01:21:24.479 and I'm sure this article is going to get more 1475 01:21:24.479 --> 01:21:29.000 in depth with it. But that being said, somebody who 1476 01:21:29.079 --> 01:21:32.760 is a volunteer at a church, cool. I don't have 1477 01:21:32.800 --> 01:21:36.520 a problem with that. And even somebody volunteering, you know, 1478 01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:38.720 to help out your pastor at their house. 1479 01:21:39.359 --> 01:21:43.880 Right, let's say your pastor's law needs to be. 1480 01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:47.239 Cut and you live somewhat in the same neighborhood as him. 1481 01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:49.399 Or let's say you own a law and service. 1482 01:21:49.800 --> 01:21:52.520 Right, And this is another thing too, whenever it talks 1483 01:21:52.560 --> 01:21:55.880 about the tithe, and I've made this reference before, a 1484 01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:59.800 tithe is not supposed to be your earnings or money. 1485 01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:06.319 It's supposed to be your harvest, your livestock, your talents, 1486 01:22:06.439 --> 01:22:09.800 if that's what you have to offer. This being said, 1487 01:22:10.359 --> 01:22:12.960 and also I should mention tithe is a Jewish law. 1488 01:22:13.760 --> 01:22:15.640 It's not supposed to be a Christian law. And I 1489 01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:17.560 get a lot of flak for saying that, But do 1490 01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:19.359 your own research, and y'all tell me what you come 1491 01:22:19.439 --> 01:22:22.439 up with. The only two times where tithe and money 1492 01:22:22.640 --> 01:22:25.760 are brought up in the correct context is if God 1493 01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:27.960 has blessed you so abundantly. You can't carry that much 1494 01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:32.039 grain to the temple storehouse. Temple storehouse, not temple also 1495 01:22:32.119 --> 01:22:34.960 important part, but we're going to sidestep that. One. You 1496 01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:38.399 sell the grain locally, carry the money near the temple storehouse, 1497 01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:41.199 buy the appropriate amount of grain once you get there, 1498 01:22:41.239 --> 01:22:43.239 and then bring it to the temple storehouse. It was 1499 01:22:43.279 --> 01:22:47.359 for transportation, right. The other time money and tithe was 1500 01:22:47.399 --> 01:22:50.039 ever brought up was when Jesus turned over the tables. 1501 01:22:50.520 --> 01:22:55.039 So anyway, all right, let's break this down here. I 1502 01:22:55.079 --> 01:22:58.159 am of the belief personally that your tithe does not 1503 01:22:58.399 --> 01:23:01.199 need to be financial. If that is the way that 1504 01:23:01.239 --> 01:23:03.079 the Lord has called for you to give, I am 1505 01:23:03.119 --> 01:23:04.319 not going to stand in the way of that. If 1506 01:23:04.359 --> 01:23:06.680 God is truly putting it on your heart to give 1507 01:23:06.720 --> 01:23:09.600 two thousand dollars to your house of worship, a more 1508 01:23:09.640 --> 01:23:11.079 power to you and God bless you. 1509 01:23:11.359 --> 01:23:13.319 Okay, cool, But. 1510 01:23:14.079 --> 01:23:17.640 Let's say you're a mechanic and your pastor's car needs 1511 01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:21.439 some work done. Perhaps you could do the work and 1512 01:23:21.479 --> 01:23:23.960 the parts and everything out of your back pocket and 1513 01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:26.319 out of your time, and you could say that that 1514 01:23:26.359 --> 01:23:30.479 would be potentially your tithe to the church the spirit 1515 01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:30.800 of God. 1516 01:23:30.840 --> 01:23:32.000 I believe is moving in that. 1517 01:23:32.279 --> 01:23:35.680 I believe that you're using your talents to better the 1518 01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:38.119 mission and better the pastor who is working in the 1519 01:23:38.119 --> 01:23:38.680 Lord's way. 1520 01:23:38.720 --> 01:23:39.920 I problem with that. 1521 01:23:40.159 --> 01:23:42.319 Let's say you want to learn a lawn care service 1522 01:23:42.600 --> 01:23:45.119 and you tell the pastor, hey, listen, once a week, 1523 01:23:45.119 --> 01:23:46.960 I'm gonna come cut your grass, do the weeding and 1524 01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:49.319 all that, and I'm just gonna do that for free. 1525 01:23:49.520 --> 01:23:51.359 Like this, we don't need to make this public. This 1526 01:23:51.399 --> 01:23:53.920 doesn't need to be anybody's business. But that's how I'm 1527 01:23:53.920 --> 01:23:57.800 going to help you in this way. That's excellent. That 1528 01:23:57.960 --> 01:24:02.399 is absolutely excellent. It doesn't have to be financial. So 1529 01:24:02.479 --> 01:24:04.239 to hear that this guy and these are one talking 1530 01:24:04.239 --> 01:24:07.039 about like volunteers. If you're doing something outside of the 1531 01:24:07.079 --> 01:24:09.840 realm of the church right now, I understand that too. 1532 01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:12.039 If you own a law and service, perhaps you should 1533 01:24:12.560 --> 01:24:17.039 maintain the grounds of the church for free. And that 1534 01:24:17.079 --> 01:24:18.920 could be some sort of like a tie thing that 1535 01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:20.880 you work out or something like. Okay, fine, listen, I'm 1536 01:24:20.880 --> 01:24:23.720 not here to judge. I have no room to judge 1537 01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:27.000 anyone except for this guy. Screw this guy. But what 1538 01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:29.239 I am saying is that you don't have to give 1539 01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:32.600 it financial there's multiple ways to serve, there's multiple ways 1540 01:24:32.600 --> 01:24:38.039 to give. So volunteers at the church cool, volunteering to 1541 01:24:38.079 --> 01:24:41.760 help your pastor out in the personal way. We're getting 1542 01:24:41.800 --> 01:24:44.560 closer to the abuse of the title. But like, there 1543 01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:46.920 is a way to do that righteously. There is a 1544 01:24:46.920 --> 01:24:54.119 way having an army of congregates volunteering to serve your 1545 01:24:54.239 --> 01:24:58.800 every need, night and day at your whim. We have 1546 01:24:58.920 --> 01:25:03.600 now crossed that line. We have absolutely crossed that line. Royce. 1547 01:25:03.720 --> 01:25:07.319 I am so sorry that your mother was ever associated 1548 01:25:07.359 --> 01:25:07.880 with this guy. 1549 01:25:07.920 --> 01:25:09.479 How long was she a member of this church? 1550 01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:14.680 Years? Probably good ten years. Maybe she would all for 1551 01:25:14.760 --> 01:25:17.359 good for yeah, for a good minute, and like she 1552 01:25:17.399 --> 01:25:20.039 would always talk to him about like like oh well, 1553 01:25:20.239 --> 01:25:22.359 you know, apostles just do it. And she would it's 1554 01:25:22.359 --> 01:25:24.479 funny enough. She would say, oh yeah, and don't worry, 1555 01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:28.680 God is working with him, like not vice versa, not 1556 01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:32.640 like he's working with God or for whatever. She very 1557 01:25:32.760 --> 01:25:36.880 much so was, oh, well, don't worry, you know, uh, 1558 01:25:37.560 --> 01:25:40.560 he God is working with with him. And you know, 1559 01:25:40.600 --> 01:25:43.399 he just he he was a pastor, but no, you know, 1560 01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:47.279 he just he's apostle and like he went through all 1561 01:25:47.319 --> 01:25:49.920 these videos where. 1562 01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:52.079 Its like look Jesus is right here. 1563 01:25:52.239 --> 01:25:53.520 He's right here in the stage. 1564 01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:55.880 Just take a look, you know, if you can see him, 1565 01:25:55.880 --> 01:26:01.960 he's manifesting right now. Just yeah, it was crazy. 1566 01:26:05.279 --> 01:26:05.439 Up. 1567 01:26:05.800 --> 01:26:11.039 So for any of our our good religious brothers and 1568 01:26:11.039 --> 01:26:14.199 sisters out there, and anybody who's not even religious, I'm 1569 01:26:14.199 --> 01:26:17.159 just gonna give a little inside baseball on this one. 1570 01:26:17.479 --> 01:26:21.920 If you have a person of the cloth quote unquote 1571 01:26:22.279 --> 01:26:27.960 that is calling themselves a prophet, an apostle, or ever 1572 01:26:28.079 --> 01:26:34.840 bringing up manifestation, this is I can't even explain how 1573 01:26:34.920 --> 01:26:37.119 much of a red flag that is, because it would 1574 01:26:37.199 --> 01:26:40.760 take me an entire other episode to break that down. 1575 01:26:41.399 --> 01:26:46.039 That there's no there are no more apostles. That's that's 1576 01:26:46.159 --> 01:26:52.119 completely in fat it's incorrect, flat out wrong. And there 1577 01:26:52.199 --> 01:26:56.000 was also a statement saying there will be no more profits. Now, 1578 01:26:56.039 --> 01:26:59.079 I am not saying that nobody can receive a message 1579 01:26:59.079 --> 01:26:59.640 from God. 1580 01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:02.680 Okay, that's that's that's up to the person. 1581 01:27:02.720 --> 01:27:04.640 That's cool if they want to say that the dream 1582 01:27:04.640 --> 01:27:06.720 that they had was a message from God. 1583 01:27:06.760 --> 01:27:08.359 I'm not going to tell you yay or nay on that. 1584 01:27:08.840 --> 01:27:13.119 But to go out publicly and call yourself a prophet, yes, 1585 01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:16.439 that is that is a very very large red flag. 1586 01:27:16.600 --> 01:27:18.960 And at that point it's time for you to cut 1587 01:27:19.039 --> 01:27:19.920 ties with. 1588 01:27:19.960 --> 01:27:25.199 That individual and manifesting in the sense of, like, you know, 1589 01:27:26.359 --> 01:27:30.239 setting down a dream and then making a plan with goals, 1590 01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:33.920 attainable goals, and as a way to achieve that dream. 1591 01:27:34.239 --> 01:27:37.600 That's not manifestation. That's putting in the work. Right for 1592 01:27:37.720 --> 01:27:42.119 a pastor to be talking about people's minds manifesting things 1593 01:27:42.119 --> 01:27:45.880 before their very eyes without acknowledging the power of prayer 1594 01:27:45.960 --> 01:27:47.800 or the power of God, but it's in the people 1595 01:27:47.880 --> 01:27:51.880 to manifest it for themselves. That is a massive red flag. 1596 01:27:52.680 --> 01:27:53.039 I don't know. 1597 01:27:53.239 --> 01:27:54.640 People can believe in that if they want. 1598 01:27:54.680 --> 01:27:57.960 I am not. I'm not taking this opportunity to besmirch 1599 01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:01.239 people's beliefs on manifest stations and the like. 1600 01:28:01.319 --> 01:28:03.880 That's fine. I don't care you do you? I do mean. 1601 01:28:04.159 --> 01:28:07.119 I'm saying, if somebody is trying to be a biblical person, 1602 01:28:07.880 --> 01:28:13.760 that should never be in the conversation. Ever, so massive 1603 01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:17.000 red flags start to finish on this. I'm curious about 1604 01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:20.279 this too. Well. Also, if you have a family member 1605 01:28:20.479 --> 01:28:22.800 or a friend that is going to a church that 1606 01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:26.800 is telling them to cut ties with family members, and 1607 01:28:27.319 --> 01:28:30.119 I do not mean a toxic family member. 1608 01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:31.800 Okay, that's that's different. 1609 01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:35.279 If you have this one family member who is abusive 1610 01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:38.199 and strung out and is always asking for money and 1611 01:28:38.359 --> 01:28:41.359 is a detriment to you and your spirituality and a 1612 01:28:41.359 --> 01:28:44.359 detriment to you and your family, cutting them off, that's 1613 01:28:44.359 --> 01:28:51.119 a different conversation. If you have a religious person who 1614 01:28:51.159 --> 01:28:55.520 is telling their followers to cut off anybody that doesn't 1615 01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:59.680 believe what they say, that is a cult. That is 1616 01:28:59.720 --> 01:29:03.239 not religion. This is there is a fine line between 1617 01:29:03.239 --> 01:29:05.640 the two, and that point is where it is crossed. 1618 01:29:07.159 --> 01:29:10.680 If anything, the House of God should always have room 1619 01:29:11.039 --> 01:29:14.399 for your family. You should be trying to proselytize to 1620 01:29:14.439 --> 01:29:17.359 your family members that are not believers, not shunning and 1621 01:29:17.479 --> 01:29:21.039 besmirching those that don't believe. And again I mean believe 1622 01:29:21.199 --> 01:29:25.720 in the book, not believe in the dude on stage. 1623 01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:30.039 These are two completely separate conversations. Go ahead. 1624 01:29:30.119 --> 01:29:33.319 Royce just wanted to say so. In addition to that, 1625 01:29:34.079 --> 01:29:37.079 this isn't the first time that he's been like in 1626 01:29:37.159 --> 01:29:42.000 the news, and even with amongst other Christians, there were 1627 01:29:42.039 --> 01:29:45.159 like other news or articles that basically said, hey, this 1628 01:29:45.199 --> 01:29:47.800 guy is bad news. And I tried to share some 1629 01:29:47.840 --> 01:29:51.840 of these with my mother and literally she told me, oh, well, 1630 01:29:51.880 --> 01:29:54.760 you know, that's that's just the devil there. You know, 1631 01:29:54.800 --> 01:29:59.600 there's two DAVIDY Taylors. There's one that we know and 1632 01:29:59.680 --> 01:30:03.800 they're there is another one that's going around basically like 1633 01:30:04.960 --> 01:30:10.279 impersonating him. So and literally she believed it. She had 1634 01:30:10.319 --> 01:30:13.359 gotten so much into his mind where like even though 1635 01:30:13.359 --> 01:30:16.279 I tried to bring up you know, articles or hey, 1636 01:30:16.560 --> 01:30:18.720 this dude is bad and there other Christians are saying, 1637 01:30:19.039 --> 01:30:23.000 you know this this person is not who he's pretending 1638 01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:25.640 to be. And she's like, oh, well, well, you know, 1639 01:30:25.880 --> 01:30:29.359 I appreciate it, I've heard about it, but that's just 1640 01:30:29.399 --> 01:30:32.600 not really that's that's just not the real DAVIDY Taylor. 1641 01:30:33.520 --> 01:30:36.079 You know. To your point about it having going back 1642 01:30:36.119 --> 01:30:38.159 in time a bit right here, it says the church 1643 01:30:38.199 --> 01:30:41.079 received about fifty million dollars in donations through its call 1644 01:30:41.119 --> 01:30:44.920 centers dating back to twenty fourteen. According to the DOJ, 1645 01:30:46.319 --> 01:30:49.640 Taylor and Brannan are accused of using much of that 1646 01:30:49.720 --> 01:30:53.600 money to buy luxury properties, luxury vehicles, and sporting equipment 1647 01:30:53.680 --> 01:30:58.520 such as boats, jet skis, and ATVs. Yeah, you know what, 1648 01:30:59.239 --> 01:31:02.159 let's just read this, because you're right, this isn't something 1649 01:31:02.199 --> 01:31:04.119 that they just woke up one morning into siety. You 1650 01:31:04.159 --> 01:31:07.560 know what, I got an idea, this is something that 1651 01:31:07.560 --> 01:31:09.239 has been going on for years and years and years, 1652 01:31:09.279 --> 01:31:11.600 and they finally blew the lid off of it. 1653 01:31:11.920 --> 01:31:14.520 But yeah, let's read in on this one. 1654 01:31:14.600 --> 01:31:20.560 Here. This is from Fox thirteen Tampa Bay. Indictments against 1655 01:31:20.640 --> 01:31:24.720 church leaders arrested in forced labor network called remarkable by 1656 01:31:24.880 --> 01:31:27.479 experts a matter. There's another video clip here. I'm wondering 1657 01:31:27.560 --> 01:31:31.000 it says self proclaimed religious leaders had history of legal troubles. 1658 01:31:31.439 --> 01:31:33.000 I would love to see what kind of new insights 1659 01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:34.760 we have before we read the article. Let's learn. 1660 01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:40.000 We continue to follow the investigation into David Taylor and 1661 01:31:40.119 --> 01:31:44.800 Michelle Brannan, two self proclaimed religious leaders arrested last week. 1662 01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:48.039 They're accused of operating a forced labor network under the 1663 01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:51.439 guise of their church and operating call centers, one of 1664 01:31:51.479 --> 01:31:54.479 which was inside at home in an affluent Tampa neighborhood. 1665 01:31:54.840 --> 01:31:57.720 Since last week's rate, it has been revealed the history 1666 01:31:57.760 --> 01:32:00.720 of legal issues involving Kingdom of God Global Church. 1667 01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:04.119 Foxer teen's Kylie Jones looked into a previous lawsuit against 1668 01:32:04.119 --> 01:32:06.479 the ministry and spoke to an expert about why an 1669 01:32:06.520 --> 01:32:08.520 indictment like this is not common. 1670 01:32:09.079 --> 01:32:12.680 An indictment likely years in the making, has uncovered more 1671 01:32:12.720 --> 01:32:15.760 than a decade of allegations against the two head haunt 1672 01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:18.159 shows of a so called global church. 1673 01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:24.600 Indictments of cases this complicated can take two, three, four years. 1674 01:32:24.800 --> 01:32:28.039 The federal indictment reveals the Kingdom of God Global Church, 1675 01:32:28.239 --> 01:32:31.840 formerly known as Joshua Media Ministries, Inc. Was a cover 1676 01:32:31.960 --> 01:32:34.800 up to a forced labor and money laundering network. 1677 01:32:35.279 --> 01:32:35.720 David E. 1678 01:32:35.880 --> 01:32:38.279 Taylor and Michelle Brannan were at the top of it. 1679 01:32:38.439 --> 01:32:43.439 There are very few forced labor cases indicted by the 1680 01:32:43.800 --> 01:32:46.640 Department of Justice, very few cases that go criminal. 1681 01:32:47.039 --> 01:32:50.920 Advocates with the Human Trafficking Legal Center call the indictment remarkable. 1682 01:32:51.279 --> 01:32:55.920 The alleged fraudulent religious organization operated call centers and ministry 1683 01:32:55.960 --> 01:32:59.439 sites around the country, including a call center inside a 1684 01:32:59.479 --> 01:33:03.319 mansion in the Avla neighborhood in Hillsborough County. Court documents 1685 01:33:03.319 --> 01:33:08.479 detail allegations of physical and psychological threats. The DOJ says Taylor, 1686 01:33:08.560 --> 01:33:13.039 a self proclaimed apostle, and Brandon, the organization's executive director, 1687 01:33:13.319 --> 01:33:17.319 recruited phone solicitors and servants known as armor bearers to 1688 01:33:17.399 --> 01:33:18.199 work for free. 1689 01:33:18.319 --> 01:33:21.840 It looks to me very similar to the kind of 1690 01:33:21.960 --> 01:33:26.000 call centers that we see using force labor in Meanmar 1691 01:33:26.600 --> 01:33:29.359 and Cambodia and other countries in Southeast Asia. 1692 01:33:29.399 --> 01:33:33.560 According to the indictment, victims were threatened with starvation, sleep deprivation, 1693 01:33:33.800 --> 01:33:38.319 physical assault, and other psychological abuse. Martina Vandenberg, the president 1694 01:33:38.399 --> 01:33:41.000 of the Human Trafficking Legal Center, says, there have been 1695 01:33:41.079 --> 01:33:45.000 other recent indictments in the US alleging forced labor under 1696 01:33:45.119 --> 01:33:46.600 cult like circumstances. 1697 01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:50.039 That is something that we have seen across the globe, 1698 01:33:50.520 --> 01:33:52.439 but this is really the first case that I have 1699 01:33:52.560 --> 01:33:55.239 seen of allegations of forced labor fraud in a call 1700 01:33:55.319 --> 01:33:56.720 center here in the United States. 1701 01:33:56.880 --> 01:34:00.199 According to the DOJ, the organization collected about fifty twenty 1702 01:34:00.279 --> 01:34:03.880 million dollars in donations dating back to twenty fourteen, but 1703 01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:06.720 the Fed say Taylor was using the donations to fund 1704 01:34:06.720 --> 01:34:10.680 a luxurious lifestyle. In twenty twenty two, the company Movie 1705 01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:13.920 prop Rentals sued the church for allegedly failing to pay 1706 01:34:13.960 --> 01:34:17.239 for a two point two million dollars stage set. According 1707 01:34:17.239 --> 01:34:21.119 to court documents, the church stopped making payments. Court filings 1708 01:34:21.159 --> 01:34:25.600 included screenshots of messages from Taylor, threatening to quote immediately 1709 01:34:25.640 --> 01:34:29.119 start a lawsuit. He also said, quote God is going 1710 01:34:29.159 --> 01:34:32.000 to get you, but you don't fear God like you should. 1711 01:34:32.199 --> 01:34:35.920 This recent indictment reveals messages that Taylor and Brannan would 1712 01:34:35.960 --> 01:34:39.720 send to victims in their call centers, similarly filled with 1713 01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:43.680 threats and religious shame. Eight victims are listed in this 1714 01:34:43.760 --> 01:34:47.199 federal indictment, but advocates say there could be many more. 1715 01:34:47.640 --> 01:34:49.479 Kylie Jones Box thirteen. 1716 01:34:49.159 --> 01:34:56.279 News ab susolutely wow, all right, let's jump in here. 1717 01:34:57.279 --> 01:34:57.399 Uh. 1718 01:34:57.600 --> 01:35:00.840 Experts call the self federal indictment against the two self 1719 01:35:00.840 --> 01:35:05.800 proclaimed religious leaders for operating an alleged forced labor network remarkable. 1720 01:35:05.880 --> 01:35:09.039 David Taylor and Michelle Brannon, who accused ring leaders of 1721 01:35:09.079 --> 01:35:11.640 the Kingdom of God Global Church, were arrested last week 1722 01:35:11.840 --> 01:35:15.000 charge of force labor, conspiracycy to commit force labor, and 1723 01:35:15.199 --> 01:35:20.840 money laundering. The backstory here. Along with Taylor, Brannan led 1724 01:35:20.840 --> 01:35:23.640 the Kingdom of God Church, formerly known as Joshua Media 1725 01:35:23.880 --> 01:35:28.119 Ministries International. A ten count indictment alleged that Taylor and 1726 01:35:28.159 --> 01:35:32.239 Brannon ran call centers in Florida, Texas, Missouri, and Michigan 1727 01:35:32.600 --> 01:35:35.760 to solicit donations to the church. The pair convinced their 1728 01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:38.159 victims to work at the call centers and to work 1729 01:35:38.199 --> 01:35:40.880 for Taylor as personal servants referred to his. 1730 01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:43.000 Armor bearers, for long hours without pay. 1731 01:35:43.079 --> 01:35:46.359 According to the indictments, one of those call centers operating 1732 01:35:46.359 --> 01:35:49.039 out of a mansion we talked about the neighborhood Hilborough County, 1733 01:35:49.279 --> 01:35:51.960 the home of the several properties around the county or 1734 01:35:52.039 --> 01:35:54.920 country rather that was rated by the FBI last week. 1735 01:35:55.640 --> 01:35:59.600 Federal and investigators said Taylor and Brannon controlled every aspect 1736 01:35:59.720 --> 01:36:02.880 of the daily living of their victims, who slept at 1737 01:36:02.880 --> 01:36:06.960 the call center or in a ministry quote unquote house 1738 01:36:07.199 --> 01:36:10.000 and were not allowed to leave without permission. The federal 1739 01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:13.439 indictment alleges that victims were deprived of food, sleep, and freedom. 1740 01:36:13.479 --> 01:36:17.039 Some victims were even physically or ps psychologically punished if 1741 01:36:17.039 --> 01:36:20.920 they didn't meet Taylor's monetary demands. The church operated multiple 1742 01:36:20.920 --> 01:36:25.680 call centers nationwide where unpaid workers were soliciting donations. The 1743 01:36:25.720 --> 01:36:28.359 indictment also said the suspects for us the victims to 1744 01:36:28.439 --> 01:36:32.000 transport women to Taylor and ensure that those women took 1745 01:36:32.079 --> 01:36:39.000 Plan B emergency contraceptives. Again a massive red flag if 1746 01:36:39.239 --> 01:36:42.039 the leader of your congregation is a bit of a 1747 01:36:42.079 --> 01:36:45.359 whore that that should be a very large red flag, 1748 01:36:45.960 --> 01:36:49.680 just throwing it out. The church received about fifty million 1749 01:36:49.760 --> 01:36:52.119 dollars in donations through its call centers dating back to 1750 01:36:52.159 --> 01:36:56.159 twenty fourteen, according to the DOJ. Taylor and Brannon accused 1751 01:36:56.199 --> 01:36:59.199 of using much of that money to buy luxury properties, vehicles, 1752 01:36:59.199 --> 01:37:02.560 and supporting such as boats, jet skis, and ATVs. The 1753 01:37:02.640 --> 01:37:05.039 FBI also alleges the victims are forced to apply for 1754 01:37:05.079 --> 01:37:08.760 federal assistants and food stamps by claiming they were homeless, 1755 01:37:09.079 --> 01:37:12.680 then turn that money over to the suspects. Dog they 1756 01:37:12.720 --> 01:37:16.159 going that level with it. Getting millions of dollars from 1757 01:37:16.199 --> 01:37:18.840 marathons and call centers wasn't enough. You had to get 1758 01:37:18.880 --> 01:37:23.000 the federal aids from your servants. Let's just call them 1759 01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:24.680 slaves and turn that. 1760 01:37:24.680 --> 01:37:25.439 Over to you too. 1761 01:37:25.680 --> 01:37:27.840 So you was rolling in that food stamp money as 1762 01:37:27.880 --> 01:37:30.479 well as those rights as dollar bills. You not do 1763 01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:34.520 you triple dipping at that point? Good God, Almighty, okay. 1764 01:37:35.279 --> 01:37:38.880 FBI officials said law enforcement arrested Brandon early Wednesday at 1765 01:37:38.960 --> 01:37:43.439 the d'avilla house, which is owned by the church. According 1766 01:37:43.479 --> 01:37:46.880 to property records. Court documents said Brandon lived in the 1767 01:37:46.880 --> 01:37:49.840 Avila mansion, which was also being used as a church 1768 01:37:49.880 --> 01:37:52.520 call center. Authorities alleged that followers lived and worked at 1769 01:37:52.520 --> 01:37:55.439 the property under slave like conditions and were punished if 1770 01:37:55.479 --> 01:37:59.039 they failed to meet demands. What they're saying. In twenty 1771 01:37:59.079 --> 01:38:01.239 twenty three, which the year for which we have the 1772 01:38:01.239 --> 01:38:04.960 most data, the most recent data, there was only twelve 1773 01:38:05.039 --> 01:38:09.960 indictments for forced labor in the entire country. Okay, it's 1774 01:38:10.039 --> 01:38:12.960 Martha Vanderberg, the president of the Human Trafficking Legal Center, 1775 01:38:13.159 --> 01:38:16.359 And in twenty twenty two there were only seven indictments 1776 01:38:16.359 --> 01:38:20.479 for forced labor in the whole United States. Meanwhile, this 1777 01:38:20.560 --> 01:38:23.720 is gonna blow all of that to hell. Human trafficking 1778 01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:27.800 advocates set and indictment like this is remarkable. Going back 1779 01:38:27.800 --> 01:38:31.279 to Vanderberg, there are very few forced labor cases indicted 1780 01:38:31.319 --> 01:38:32.439 by the Department of Justice. 1781 01:38:32.560 --> 01:38:34.319 Very few cases go criminal. 1782 01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:37.039 It looks to me very similar to the kind of 1783 01:38:37.039 --> 01:38:39.520 call centers that we see in mem Mark, Cambodia, and 1784 01:38:39.560 --> 01:38:40.439 in Southeast Asia. 1785 01:38:40.520 --> 01:38:42.439 Yeah, we heard her say that as a direct quote. 1786 01:38:42.960 --> 01:38:44.960 She also went on to call it cult like which 1787 01:38:45.359 --> 01:38:47.920 I absolutely see this as a cult. 1788 01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:50.079 This is not a congregation, this is not a church. 1789 01:38:50.439 --> 01:38:54.279 This is a cult with a cult leader who I 1790 01:38:54.399 --> 01:38:56.920 still can't believe they had these type of people that 1791 01:38:57.039 --> 01:39:00.359 like would follow them so blindly. But it is thing. 1792 01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:02.680 It is a thing. They say the right thing to 1793 01:39:02.720 --> 01:39:04.600 the right people and they get in their heads. It 1794 01:39:04.680 --> 01:39:08.279 is disturbing. Let's see, that is something that we have 1795 01:39:08.399 --> 01:39:10.359 seen across the globe. But it is really the first 1796 01:39:10.399 --> 01:39:13.079 case that I have seen of allegations of forced labor 1797 01:39:13.119 --> 01:39:16.399 fraud in a call center here in the United States. 1798 01:39:16.920 --> 01:39:19.199 To dig deeper, in twenty twenty two, yeah, they talked 1799 01:39:19.239 --> 01:39:21.880 about the movie prop rental company that the two point 1800 01:39:21.920 --> 01:39:24.119 two million dollar stage said that they just stopped paying. 1801 01:39:25.319 --> 01:39:27.159 I'm talking about God is gonna get you, all right, 1802 01:39:27.199 --> 01:39:30.680 So what's next? On Monday, Brennan was still being hailed 1803 01:39:30.680 --> 01:39:31.880 in Florida and Taylor. 1804 01:39:32.079 --> 01:39:33.720 It was being hailed in North Carolina. 1805 01:39:33.800 --> 01:39:36.720 The federal charges were filed out of Michigan, where the 1806 01:39:36.920 --> 01:39:40.880 quote unquote church's headquarters is and their case is expected 1807 01:39:40.880 --> 01:39:42.760 to be heard. I'm glad to put the quotes on 1808 01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:44.920 the church at the end there, because this is not 1809 01:39:44.960 --> 01:39:47.119 a church. This is not a church, this is not 1810 01:39:47.199 --> 01:39:53.840 God's house. There's no way that this is God's house. Wow. Oh, man, 1811 01:39:53.960 --> 01:39:58.960 that blows my mind. But you know, there's a church 1812 01:39:59.119 --> 01:40:03.760 around my house as a matter of fact, that it's 1813 01:40:03.800 --> 01:40:08.520 not cult like in this way, but they are tiptoeing 1814 01:40:09.439 --> 01:40:12.479 around the line as much as they can. And I'm 1815 01:40:12.479 --> 01:40:16.760 not gonna shout them out because I have personal friends 1816 01:40:16.800 --> 01:40:20.800 whose family members are within the leadership of this church, 1817 01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:25.479 but they have left because of these conditions. I'm just 1818 01:40:25.479 --> 01:40:29.880 gonna say that this church calls themselves a something something international. 1819 01:40:30.319 --> 01:40:34.359 That's usually another big telltale sign, by the way, and 1820 01:40:34.880 --> 01:40:40.119 they use a ministry that they have which is a 1821 01:40:40.199 --> 01:40:44.279 halfway house, okay for people that are trying to break 1822 01:40:44.319 --> 01:40:48.520 the chains of addiction. Right, these people have a hard 1823 01:40:48.560 --> 01:40:52.640 time finding work, and that's understandable. That's a real issue 1824 01:40:52.640 --> 01:40:54.800 that a lot of people that spend time in jail 1825 01:40:55.079 --> 01:40:56.640 have when they get out. Not a lot of people 1826 01:40:56.640 --> 01:41:00.079 are like super excited to hire a felon, so they 1827 01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:03.920 have a hard time finding work. This particular ministry helps 1828 01:41:03.960 --> 01:41:06.880 them find a job, which is all finding good. 1829 01:41:07.119 --> 01:41:10.159 That's that's excellent. The problem is. 1830 01:41:10.760 --> 01:41:14.159 That there's a around my area. There's a lot of 1831 01:41:14.239 --> 01:41:17.680 oil refineries and chemical plants, and there's heavy industry. Not 1832 01:41:17.880 --> 01:41:22.000 now I mean surrounding me, honestly, and a lot of 1833 01:41:22.039 --> 01:41:26.479 these big, big projects that go on at these facilities. Yeah, 1834 01:41:26.520 --> 01:41:29.199 you get the main contracts that are they're you know, 1835 01:41:30.199 --> 01:41:33.119 fought over and won by the big names. As far 1836 01:41:33.159 --> 01:41:37.000 as the construction contracts are concerned, that's fine, but there's 1837 01:41:37.039 --> 01:41:39.560 a lot of third party contracts that are given out 1838 01:41:39.560 --> 01:41:40.760 to these smaller companies. 1839 01:41:41.399 --> 01:41:43.079 One of these, I'll just give an example. 1840 01:41:44.479 --> 01:41:49.159 They take sheet metal and they punch out circle plates 1841 01:41:49.720 --> 01:41:53.680 that they use as blinds for pipes or you know, 1842 01:41:54.199 --> 01:41:57.199 bases for legs, for structures, whatever the case is. It's 1843 01:41:57.760 --> 01:42:00.640 it is basically a mindless job. You could do it 1844 01:42:00.640 --> 01:42:02.560 with a grinder, you could do it with you know, 1845 01:42:02.720 --> 01:42:04.239 some sort of a cutting implement, or you could do 1846 01:42:04.279 --> 01:42:06.279 it with a hydraulic press, whatever the case is. It's 1847 01:42:06.359 --> 01:42:09.800 just very repetitive work and it doesn't take a high 1848 01:42:09.880 --> 01:42:14.359 level of skill to do. So this ministry has hooked 1849 01:42:14.439 --> 01:42:18.279 up these people living in this halfway house with a 1850 01:42:18.479 --> 01:42:21.119 job with this I'm just gonna leave it as an 1851 01:42:21.199 --> 01:42:24.920 unnamed contractor, right which fine. At least it's a foot 1852 01:42:24.920 --> 01:42:26.439 in the door and they get paid for their time 1853 01:42:26.479 --> 01:42:28.880 and they're holding a job and they're punching a clock 1854 01:42:28.920 --> 01:42:32.960 and they're making their way. That's fine, that's excellent. But 1855 01:42:34.159 --> 01:42:38.920 this company is extremely predatory to these particular members that 1856 01:42:38.960 --> 01:42:41.079 come from this halfway house. They have employees that work 1857 01:42:41.119 --> 01:42:43.720 for them that are not of the of that group, 1858 01:42:44.199 --> 01:42:46.119 but of the ones that are of that group, they 1859 01:42:46.159 --> 01:42:50.520 pay them. I've heard stories of like five dollars less 1860 01:42:50.520 --> 01:42:53.199 an hour, ten dollars less per hour than they would 1861 01:42:53.199 --> 01:42:56.279 pay a regular employee. And they know that they got 1862 01:42:56.279 --> 01:42:58.760 them in a vice because it's not like they can 1863 01:42:58.800 --> 01:43:02.079 go and find more money doing a better job. And 1864 01:43:02.600 --> 01:43:06.000 this contracting company is a lot more lenient when they're 1865 01:43:06.079 --> 01:43:08.239 late to work or when things come up and they 1866 01:43:08.279 --> 01:43:11.199 just kind of whatever, but at least they keep them 1867 01:43:11.239 --> 01:43:15.359 on the payroll this church. Come to find out, the 1868 01:43:15.399 --> 01:43:21.159 owner of that contractor is a very devout member of 1869 01:43:21.199 --> 01:43:27.560 this church, this dot dot dot International Church, and gives 1870 01:43:28.239 --> 01:43:34.239 very large donations in his tithe checks, if you will, 1871 01:43:34.840 --> 01:43:38.000 and these particular ones go straight to the tippy top 1872 01:43:38.039 --> 01:43:41.800 for the head pastor. So he ensures that the halfway 1873 01:43:41.800 --> 01:43:44.319 House stays full of these people that are just trying 1874 01:43:44.319 --> 01:43:48.239 to make their way, keeps them working for cut rate 1875 01:43:48.840 --> 01:43:51.880 and all that excess profit that the company makes ends 1876 01:43:51.960 --> 01:43:54.840 up going back to the owner of the company and 1877 01:43:55.079 --> 01:43:58.319 through a you know, chain of righteous dollar bills to 1878 01:43:58.720 --> 01:44:02.600 the head pastor of the congregation. Now it's not forced 1879 01:44:02.640 --> 01:44:05.640 labor because they can't quit. Nothing is keeping them at 1880 01:44:05.640 --> 01:44:07.920 this halfway house. You see what I'm saying. It's it's 1881 01:44:07.960 --> 01:44:11.359 not as bad as this situation is. And it's not 1882 01:44:11.399 --> 01:44:14.079 a cult. He's not telling you to the pastor himself 1883 01:44:14.119 --> 01:44:15.880 is not telling you to like section off your family 1884 01:44:15.960 --> 01:44:18.479 or anything like that. But I don't like the way 1885 01:44:18.479 --> 01:44:20.880 that he runs his church, also in the fact that 1886 01:44:21.039 --> 01:44:25.760 he is the only one that receives revelations from God, 1887 01:44:26.520 --> 01:44:27.560 not by his own emission. 1888 01:44:27.600 --> 01:44:28.439 But what I mean is. 1889 01:44:28.800 --> 01:44:30.800 He has like I don't know, I think right now 1890 01:44:30.800 --> 01:44:34.520 they might have like six campuses, eight campuses of this church, 1891 01:44:35.520 --> 01:44:41.199 and he keeps a very very short leash on the 1892 01:44:41.239 --> 01:44:45.399 head pastors of each of these locations. Basically, he writes 1893 01:44:45.439 --> 01:44:49.039 the sermon, you'll preach it, so there's no way for 1894 01:44:49.119 --> 01:44:51.840 you to actually write your own sermon. Hey, you know, 1895 01:44:51.880 --> 01:44:53.800 God's really putting something on my heart that I need 1896 01:44:53.800 --> 01:44:54.880 to tell to my congregation. 1897 01:44:54.920 --> 01:44:56.800 There's going to be a solid message. I've worked it out. 1898 01:44:56.800 --> 01:44:57.439 Bah bah bap. 1899 01:44:57.720 --> 01:44:59.319 That's really cool, man, that's awesome. 1900 01:44:59.319 --> 01:45:01.880 Hey, here is your sermon for this Sunday, and you're 1901 01:45:01.880 --> 01:45:04.439 gonna do as you're told because I am the only 1902 01:45:04.479 --> 01:45:08.680 one that knows the direction that this Congregation International is 1903 01:45:08.720 --> 01:45:10.680 going to be going in. It is. 1904 01:45:11.920 --> 01:45:14.680 It's crazy, It is absolutely insane. 1905 01:45:14.760 --> 01:45:17.199 And I am not going to get into how he 1906 01:45:17.279 --> 01:45:19.079 was trying to groom one of his children to take 1907 01:45:19.119 --> 01:45:21.239 his role when the time came he was going to retire. 1908 01:45:21.720 --> 01:45:24.640 I am not gonna say how he went out of 1909 01:45:24.640 --> 01:45:28.520 his way to try to ruin this young person's marriage 1910 01:45:28.800 --> 01:45:31.279 so that he could end up marrying somebody that was 1911 01:45:31.319 --> 01:45:33.159 more in line with his vision. 1912 01:45:32.960 --> 01:45:35.760 Of what his church would look like after he retired. 1913 01:45:35.800 --> 01:45:43.239 It's disgusting, absolutely disgusting. But yeah, so there's examples of 1914 01:45:43.319 --> 01:45:46.760 things like this going on all over the place. I 1915 01:45:46.800 --> 01:45:50.279 have never heard of one this large with call centers 1916 01:45:50.279 --> 01:45:53.920 and all of this going on in America to this extent. 1917 01:45:54.479 --> 01:45:56.720 That is mind blowing. Royce. 1918 01:45:56.920 --> 01:46:00.279 The chances that this guy would get caught me talking 1919 01:46:00.319 --> 01:46:02.119 about it on this episode and it's the one that 1920 01:46:02.159 --> 01:46:06.680 your mom was an affiliate with is mind blowing. 1921 01:46:06.680 --> 01:46:08.279 But like, what does she say about it now? 1922 01:46:09.560 --> 01:46:14.239 I haven't really asked her about him lately. Honestly, ever 1923 01:46:14.279 --> 01:46:16.760 since my mother kind of cut me and my family off, 1924 01:46:17.159 --> 01:46:24.079 she's been extremely extrae estranged. So so the problem is 1925 01:46:24.119 --> 01:46:26.920 she did a lot of damage to the family besides this, 1926 01:46:27.560 --> 01:46:29.199 And like I guess, my mother used to write a 1927 01:46:29.199 --> 01:46:33.279 lot of notes and stuff, and like she didn't say 1928 01:46:33.479 --> 01:46:36.279 some very good things about my family, and she she 1929 01:46:36.359 --> 01:46:38.760 did a lot to her. So it's like my and 1930 01:46:38.800 --> 01:46:42.399 then so it's really funny. So after the whole oh, well, 1931 01:46:43.079 --> 01:46:46.079 you know, God is putting a lion in the sand 1932 01:46:46.119 --> 01:46:49.560 and we're on one side and the other other. She 1933 01:46:49.800 --> 01:46:53.000 then like started writing text messages to everybody. She's like, 1934 01:46:53.479 --> 01:46:57.399 so God is got rid of the mark in the sand, 1935 01:46:57.720 --> 01:47:00.520 and this is the best season of restoration and this 1936 01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:05.119 and that. And my mother has never even apologized for 1937 01:47:05.319 --> 01:47:09.560 her actions. And she even wrote a letter saying, if 1938 01:47:09.560 --> 01:47:11.199 you're asking if you're to leave for an apology, I 1939 01:47:11.279 --> 01:47:13.680 won't apologize because she still feels that she was right 1940 01:47:14.319 --> 01:47:17.840 before for leaving how she did, and just she's not 1941 01:47:17.960 --> 01:47:21.359 wanting to take accountability. So since she's not willing to 1942 01:47:21.399 --> 01:47:24.479 do that, plus all those very hurtful things and just 1943 01:47:24.520 --> 01:47:26.720 literally she left my grandmother in the hospital at Ryan 1944 01:47:26.800 --> 01:47:30.640 and knee surgery to do her own thing. So like, 1945 01:47:31.560 --> 01:47:35.199 I haven't asked about this. I mean, she's living the 1946 01:47:35.239 --> 01:47:38.079 life she wants to, being a preacher's wife, and she 1947 01:47:38.239 --> 01:47:41.600 goes and she's she's important, she's an important member, and 1948 01:47:41.640 --> 01:47:45.119 she goes all over the world with her her husband, 1949 01:47:45.159 --> 01:47:48.760 and like they even want to meet the family. I 1950 01:47:48.840 --> 01:47:51.640 think a year ago. I think last last year for 1951 01:47:51.760 --> 01:47:54.520 my grandma's birthday, and my Grandma's like, just don't come. 1952 01:47:55.039 --> 01:47:56.880 I mean, does he seem like he's a decent guy 1953 01:47:56.920 --> 01:47:57.359 at least? 1954 01:47:59.720 --> 01:48:02.199 I mean he seems nice. I mean I've read some 1955 01:48:02.760 --> 01:48:06.279 He like sent a one of his messages that I 1956 01:48:06.319 --> 01:48:09.880 think was fluff and nonsensical and didn't really make sense. 1957 01:48:10.439 --> 01:48:12.920 But like, I mean, there are people that listen to 1958 01:48:13.119 --> 01:48:14.640 all sorts of things. 1959 01:48:15.199 --> 01:48:18.800 When you say, do you mean, and I'm only asking 1960 01:48:18.840 --> 01:48:21.199 this because I know that you are a resident Jewish correspondent, 1961 01:48:21.720 --> 01:48:23.800 by fluff and nonsensical, do you mean that it was 1962 01:48:23.920 --> 01:48:29.199 very Jesus centric and that's what you mean, chicken type ship. 1963 01:48:30.199 --> 01:48:30.399 Yes. 1964 01:48:30.520 --> 01:48:32.640 So it's to keep in mind that even though I 1965 01:48:32.680 --> 01:48:37.640 am the Jewish representative currently, I was raised in Christianity, 1966 01:48:37.760 --> 01:48:40.600 So like, you know, I do understand the difference between 1967 01:48:41.840 --> 01:48:45.000 like chicken soup for the soul and like fire and 1968 01:48:45.039 --> 01:48:51.399 brimstone and like legitimate a legitimate speech. So it just 1969 01:48:52.640 --> 01:48:54.399 it just didn't make sense like some of the things 1970 01:48:54.399 --> 01:48:56.119 you were going to, the connections he was trying to 1971 01:48:56.119 --> 01:49:04.279 make just not a very good orator and writer, but 1972 01:49:04.880 --> 01:49:06.079 you know, to each of their own. 1973 01:49:06.680 --> 01:49:11.119 Yeah, yeah, I feel that. Well. I wish you all 1974 01:49:11.279 --> 01:49:16.000 the luck with repairing whatever relationship you can with your mother. 1975 01:49:17.199 --> 01:49:20.159 I know people personally that are strange from their parents 1976 01:49:20.159 --> 01:49:23.920 for a litany of reasons, and you know, we can't 1977 01:49:23.920 --> 01:49:27.800 always choose our family, but it's still it still sucks. 1978 01:49:28.039 --> 01:49:30.760 You know, that's a pain that cuts way way deeper 1979 01:49:31.119 --> 01:49:34.359 than we originally realize, and as we get older and 1980 01:49:34.399 --> 01:49:36.199 as we have kids of our own and things like that, 1981 01:49:36.279 --> 01:49:39.800 it really starts to even like open those wounds even deeper. 1982 01:49:39.880 --> 01:49:42.159 So I really hope that you and your mom are 1983 01:49:42.199 --> 01:49:44.880 able to repair this in some way. But I also 1984 01:49:44.960 --> 01:49:47.800 completely understand and respect your reasons for one to keep distance. 1985 01:49:48.720 --> 01:49:50.680 For sure I will. And then it's funny sort of 1986 01:49:50.720 --> 01:49:54.600 the email that she wrote to separate yourself from us, 1987 01:49:55.000 --> 01:49:58.239 Like I was like, so I had been emailing my mother, 1988 01:49:58.319 --> 01:50:00.760 so I know the way my other rights, I know 1989 01:50:00.840 --> 01:50:05.359 her punctuation and grammar and spelling, et cetera. That was 1990 01:50:05.520 --> 01:50:09.279 not written by my mother, Like it was probably one 1991 01:50:09.279 --> 01:50:13.680 of those copy pastes. But like it was so absurd. 1992 01:50:14.279 --> 01:50:16.640 I called my family, like is this real? I try 1993 01:50:16.680 --> 01:50:19.520 to call my mom and I don't think she even answered. 1994 01:50:20.159 --> 01:50:24.520 But it was like I knew the reason that it 1995 01:50:24.560 --> 01:50:27.319 was because of this cult, and I was like, this 1996 01:50:27.359 --> 01:50:30.039 is ridiculous. But like they got so in her head. 1997 01:50:30.319 --> 01:50:32.399 And when they were talking about the sleep deprivation, like 1998 01:50:32.720 --> 01:50:35.119 literally she would say that, you know, staying up so 1999 01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:38.319 many nights in a row in prayer and then there 2000 01:50:38.359 --> 01:50:40.319 would only they would there would be a lot of 2001 01:50:40.359 --> 01:50:43.079 fasting and there would be only like very very little foods. 2002 01:50:43.159 --> 01:50:46.479 Like she told me about this stuff, and like I 2003 01:50:46.520 --> 01:50:48.640 can't even tell you how many how many times I 2004 01:50:48.680 --> 01:50:51.199 tried to get her out of it, but she was 2005 01:50:51.319 --> 01:50:53.000 literally just hook fine and sinker. 2006 01:50:53.439 --> 01:50:53.640 Yeah. 2007 01:50:53.680 --> 01:50:57.079 It was bad. Wow. And I mean even with the 2008 01:50:57.119 --> 01:51:00.800 fasting thing, I don't have an issue with a congregation 2009 01:51:01.000 --> 01:51:05.439 doing a congregation wide fast and like having a season 2010 01:51:05.479 --> 01:51:07.760 of prayer and like all these things to pray for 2011 01:51:08.279 --> 01:51:09.800 a thing to take place, Like I. 2012 01:51:09.800 --> 01:51:11.520 Get it, you know, I'm not. 2013 01:51:12.399 --> 01:51:14.159 I have my own opinions about these types of things, 2014 01:51:14.199 --> 01:51:16.640 but like, okay, if you're gonna do that for a time, 2015 01:51:17.119 --> 01:51:20.239 like okay, cool forcing it on your people, and like 2016 01:51:20.399 --> 01:51:23.880 actually denying them food and then threatening them with physical 2017 01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:27.199 violence and psychological torture if they don't do what the 2018 01:51:27.239 --> 01:51:31.600 pastor says. Again, there's a fine line here, a really 2019 01:51:31.960 --> 01:51:35.840 distinct line where you are in the box of acceptable 2020 01:51:35.840 --> 01:51:38.960 behavior and then out of the box of acceptable behavior. 2021 01:51:39.600 --> 01:51:43.199 It sounds to me like this guy was almost completely 2022 01:51:43.640 --> 01:51:45.760 outside of the box of acceptable behavior. 2023 01:51:45.920 --> 01:51:51.199 Start to finish, it's. 2024 01:51:50.199 --> 01:51:52.960 So all right, all right, all right. Before we get 2025 01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:55.880 to our final thing of this evening, I did bring 2026 01:51:55.960 --> 01:51:57.840 up something about how France is on the verge of 2027 01:51:57.920 --> 01:52:01.640 collapse again, but I mean, in every few years, France 2028 01:52:01.760 --> 01:52:03.960 on the verge of absolute collapse and bankruptcy and all 2029 01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:05.680 the stuff. It's nothing new, So I mean, there's never 2030 01:52:05.680 --> 01:52:08.560 really no point in us talking about it. Now. I 2031 01:52:08.600 --> 01:52:10.079 do want to get to the chat before we get 2032 01:52:10.119 --> 01:52:12.239 to our last one, which is going to be more 2033 01:52:12.880 --> 01:52:18.199 of a archaeological and scientific conversation rather than you know, 2034 01:52:18.319 --> 01:52:22.640 geopolitical and news type of base. But let's get to 2035 01:52:22.720 --> 01:52:26.640 it here. Everybody's saying, good evening, what's going on. AI 2036 01:52:26.840 --> 01:52:29.600 is just an improved form of media and narrative control, 2037 01:52:29.680 --> 01:52:32.439 but with the extra layer of quote unquote, it's trustworthy 2038 01:52:32.479 --> 01:52:32.920 on top. 2039 01:52:33.039 --> 01:52:35.239 Yeah, raven I one hundred percent agree with that. 2040 01:52:35.600 --> 01:52:38.720 AI literally boldface just told us that New Orleans is 2041 01:52:38.800 --> 01:52:41.960 extremely safer now and twenty twenty four and twenty twenty 2042 01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:44.760 five is expected to be whatever third highest homicide rates 2043 01:52:44.800 --> 01:52:47.960 in the country right now. So AI is yet again 2044 01:52:48.119 --> 01:52:52.920 as it typically is, wrong. But Okay, a shooting happened 2045 01:52:52.920 --> 01:52:55.920 about three hundred feet from my kids and a quote 2046 01:52:56.000 --> 01:52:59.560 unquote really safe place. Yeah, same, same, And I brought 2047 01:52:59.640 --> 01:53:01.399 up this story a million times. We were at a 2048 01:53:01.439 --> 01:53:04.520 Maudi Gras parade at day parade. It was a tractor parade. 2049 01:53:04.560 --> 01:53:07.960 Families were all out there in the It was in 2050 01:53:08.000 --> 01:53:11.159 the French Quarter. You know, it is seen relatively to 2051 01:53:11.239 --> 01:53:13.680 be a safe place. It wasn't like on Bourbon Street, 2052 01:53:13.680 --> 01:53:16.600 but it was like in the quarter right and on 2053 01:53:16.720 --> 01:53:19.600 our block. Just I'm not gonna say a few is 2054 01:53:19.600 --> 01:53:22.840 in six feet, but like within fifty feet of us, 2055 01:53:23.359 --> 01:53:26.520 gunshots and people screaming and cops taking this dude down 2056 01:53:26.520 --> 01:53:30.640 in the whole nine at a family day parade, Like, yeah, 2057 01:53:30.680 --> 01:53:33.880 that's that's New Orleans and that was years ago. That's 2058 01:53:33.960 --> 01:53:37.560 not It's way worse now. But this is my point 2059 01:53:37.600 --> 01:53:42.000 the yeah anyway, anyway, So I for one, have no 2060 01:53:42.079 --> 01:53:44.199 issue with federal troops coming in to help clean up 2061 01:53:44.199 --> 01:53:45.319 the New Orleans streets. 2062 01:53:45.479 --> 01:53:46.079 I'm good with it. 2063 01:53:46.119 --> 01:53:48.680 And while, like I said, after they get don New Orleans, 2064 01:53:48.720 --> 01:53:51.039 if they want to take a couple hour trip north 2065 01:53:51.039 --> 01:53:53.520 and hit Baton Rouge, I'm all in favor of it. 2066 01:53:53.880 --> 01:53:55.520 And while they're at if they want to take a 2067 01:53:55.520 --> 01:53:59.079 few more hour of a trip north and clean up Shreveport. Hey, 2068 01:53:59.560 --> 01:54:01.520 you will know, can not hear any complaints from the 2069 01:54:01.760 --> 01:54:06.800 vast majority of this state throwing that out. Let's see here, 2070 01:54:06.920 --> 01:54:09.680 I feel like there's going to be a bombing, like 2071 01:54:09.720 --> 01:54:12.319 a quote unquote random act of terrorism if they get 2072 01:54:12.359 --> 01:54:15.039 a lot of them together. I think by that you 2073 01:54:15.119 --> 01:54:17.439 meant the victims of the Epstein thing. Yeah, I could 2074 01:54:17.479 --> 01:54:20.159 see that. I could see it. But with that being said, 2075 01:54:20.199 --> 01:54:22.720 today was the perfect opportunity, right they were all in 2076 01:54:22.720 --> 01:54:25.239 the Capitol steps. That would have been the perfect shot However, 2077 01:54:26.119 --> 01:54:29.359 they're still National Guard troops all over DC, so maybe 2078 01:54:29.399 --> 01:54:33.520 that wouldn't have been the opportune moment. That being said, 2079 01:54:33.600 --> 01:54:37.439 I really do hope that these victims get together, put 2080 01:54:37.439 --> 01:54:39.720 together their own list, and release it to the public 2081 01:54:39.800 --> 01:54:42.840 and say, you know what, screw DC, screw the DOJ, 2082 01:54:43.439 --> 01:54:46.359 screw the current administration. This is truth that needs to 2083 01:54:46.359 --> 01:54:49.000 get out there. And I really feel like they're going 2084 01:54:49.039 --> 01:54:52.520 to get that done. Let's see, Spirit Animals said. I 2085 01:54:52.560 --> 01:54:56.479 could see the victims getting disappeared a few of them. 2086 01:54:56.520 --> 01:54:59.359 I could see, bro, if you got a thousand victims, 2087 01:54:59.439 --> 01:55:01.720 and hell, even half of them, even if a tenth 2088 01:55:01.720 --> 01:55:03.920 of them, one hundred victims are all willing to come 2089 01:55:03.960 --> 01:55:06.840 together and compile a list. I got a hard time 2090 01:55:07.359 --> 01:55:12.720 seeing them all getting clintoned. You know, that's it's a possibility, 2091 01:55:12.800 --> 01:55:16.199 but God, the logistics on that would be difficult. I 2092 01:55:16.199 --> 01:55:19.079 could see, like, like Raven said, maybe a terrorist attack 2093 01:55:19.119 --> 01:55:19.720 and they just. 2094 01:55:19.680 --> 01:55:21.439 All happened to be in the building that got hit 2095 01:55:21.560 --> 01:55:21.960 or something. 2096 01:55:22.039 --> 01:55:25.119 But even still, you're talking about a lot of eggs 2097 01:55:25.119 --> 01:55:26.720 having to be put in the same basket for that 2098 01:55:26.800 --> 01:55:28.600 to go off without a hitch. I'm not saying it's 2099 01:55:28.600 --> 01:55:32.600 impossible I'm saying it would takes some real doing. Let's see. 2100 01:55:32.600 --> 01:55:36.439 Moving on sparit Animal says the meth business is booming, 2101 01:55:36.640 --> 01:55:40.039 and not just the random meth lab explosion either. So 2102 01:55:40.079 --> 01:55:42.800 when do we get to push California into the sea. Okay, 2103 01:55:42.840 --> 01:55:45.880 two different conversations. Yeah, the meth industry is booming, and 2104 01:55:45.920 --> 01:55:48.319 I'm not saying that it's all because of China. This 2105 01:55:48.359 --> 01:55:51.399 one shipment is absolutely connected to China. You could look 2106 01:55:51.399 --> 01:55:55.079 at the shipping manifestos and see this. Once again, our 2107 01:55:55.079 --> 01:55:58.720 Hong Kong correspondence spoke in earlier, and I gotta say 2108 01:55:58.840 --> 01:56:00.279 I'm not a big fan of it. But again, I 2109 01:56:00.319 --> 01:56:03.239 don't think that this is Jijaping trying to third party 2110 01:56:03.279 --> 01:56:06.560 a silent war against America by force feeding as drugs. 2111 01:56:07.399 --> 01:56:10.119 Fentanyl mostly comes from China, and I do need that 2112 01:56:10.199 --> 01:56:13.479 to stop. But I've heard the conspiracy to say that 2113 01:56:13.479 --> 01:56:15.439 that is all a part of the plan to take 2114 01:56:15.479 --> 01:56:18.199 down America is to get everybody hooked on fentanyl. 2115 01:56:18.239 --> 01:56:20.319 But I mean that's the minority. 2116 01:56:20.479 --> 01:56:23.359 The majority, the vast majority of people in America are 2117 01:56:23.399 --> 01:56:26.960 not experimenting with fentanyl or crystal meth. You know that 2118 01:56:27.000 --> 01:56:29.960 you're talking about taking out the people that were willing 2119 01:56:30.000 --> 01:56:31.800 to experiment with these things in the first place, and 2120 01:56:31.840 --> 01:56:36.159 that's you know, that's a different conversation. I do think 2121 01:56:36.199 --> 01:56:38.560 that it's a business move. I think the China above 2122 01:56:38.600 --> 01:56:41.640 all else is all about the almighty dollar bill, so 2123 01:56:42.279 --> 01:56:45.520 I don't see that as necessarily a war tactic. Either 2124 01:56:45.560 --> 01:56:46.119 way it goes. 2125 01:56:46.199 --> 01:56:48.760 I am very happy that this shipment got stopped. 2126 01:56:49.039 --> 01:56:51.359 I am very happy that they are making it very public, 2127 01:56:52.039 --> 01:56:54.760 and I understand that it's going to be politicized because everything, 2128 01:56:54.800 --> 01:56:56.640 as far as the war on drug goes, has to 2129 01:56:56.640 --> 01:56:58.840 be politicized. You can look at the entire war on 2130 01:56:58.920 --> 01:57:01.520 drugs and see that. That being said, I hope that 2131 01:57:01.560 --> 01:57:04.039 this does bring more awareness to the situation. I hope 2132 01:57:04.039 --> 01:57:06.640 that more people stay off of hard drugs and drugs 2133 01:57:06.680 --> 01:57:10.119 in general, and I really hope that this has a 2134 01:57:10.159 --> 01:57:13.960 good outcome overall. When do we get to push California 2135 01:57:13.960 --> 01:57:14.880 into the sea? 2136 01:57:15.159 --> 01:57:15.399 Look? 2137 01:57:15.439 --> 01:57:18.760 Man, the vast majority of people living in California and 2138 01:57:18.840 --> 01:57:22.520 Oregon and Washington are not about this dumb shit, Like, 2139 01:57:22.600 --> 01:57:25.760 let's be real here. However, the powers that be that 2140 01:57:25.840 --> 01:57:29.800 preside over these states are about that dumb shit, which 2141 01:57:29.840 --> 01:57:32.279 is why I'm trying to put this message out there 2142 01:57:32.560 --> 01:57:36.319 to all of the good people living in Washington, Oregon, 2143 01:57:36.479 --> 01:57:41.640 and California. There's been so many like writing on the 2144 01:57:41.680 --> 01:57:45.359 wall moments of how these states are going to go. 2145 01:57:46.359 --> 01:57:48.760 This is just another one of them. It's time to move. 2146 01:57:49.159 --> 01:57:51.119 It's time to get on out of these states and 2147 01:57:51.159 --> 01:57:55.000 go on to greener pastures in states that actually care 2148 01:57:55.079 --> 01:57:57.720 about you and your children and your family's well being. 2149 01:57:58.479 --> 01:57:59.520 Now is that time. 2150 01:58:00.079 --> 01:58:03.520 It's about to get really, really difficult and really stupid. 2151 01:58:03.560 --> 01:58:09.359 But I digress. Moving on, Royce says, I found some 2152 01:58:09.399 --> 01:58:12.279 excerpts that talk about the severity of each plague from 2153 01:58:12.319 --> 01:58:16.159 the mid Drashic perspective. You know what we do need 2154 01:58:16.159 --> 01:58:17.880 to talk about that. I don't know if tonight's the 2155 01:58:17.920 --> 01:58:20.119 episode to do that, but here soon I would love 2156 01:58:20.159 --> 01:58:25.000 to go deeper on that. Let's see, Tony says, as 2157 01:58:25.199 --> 01:58:28.720 Potus just announced moments ago today, the US military conducted 2158 01:58:28.720 --> 01:58:32.560 a lethal strike in the Southern Caribbean against a drug 2159 01:58:32.680 --> 01:58:35.680 vessel which had departed from Venezuela and was being operated 2160 01:58:35.720 --> 01:58:40.079 by a designated narco terrorist organization. Yeah, everybody had so 2161 01:58:40.399 --> 01:58:44.000 much noise to talk about Trump sending military vessels to 2162 01:58:44.119 --> 01:58:47.600 the coast of Venezuela or around the coast of Venezuela, 2163 01:58:48.079 --> 01:58:51.560 And wouldn't you know it, Maduro is in fact the 2164 01:58:51.680 --> 01:58:55.439 leader of a massive narco state because there are big 2165 01:58:55.479 --> 01:58:58.760 socialist communist people over there and that doesn't work, and 2166 01:58:58.800 --> 01:59:01.880 his people have been starving since like eight I remember 2167 01:59:01.880 --> 01:59:03.319 when I was in the Marine Corps, we were learning 2168 01:59:03.319 --> 01:59:05.520 about that. In two thousand and four, two thousand and five, 2169 01:59:05.640 --> 01:59:09.199 Venezuela had like the fourth best economy on earth. It 2170 01:59:09.279 --> 01:59:12.479 took five years and that went to hell in a 2171 01:59:12.520 --> 01:59:14.600 hand basket. You had people that were waiting weeks to 2172 01:59:14.680 --> 01:59:17.479 receive a basket of food on their doorstep because the 2173 01:59:17.520 --> 01:59:20.840 government provided all that, and the food itself is usually mouldy, 2174 01:59:21.119 --> 01:59:25.239 rotten all. It was horrible because communism doesn't work. Socialism 2175 01:59:25.279 --> 01:59:28.840 doesn't work. So as a way to kind of, you know, 2176 01:59:29.640 --> 01:59:33.760 make the budget level off, he turned to narco state 2177 01:59:34.119 --> 01:59:37.399 activities and he runs a very large paramilitary organization, which 2178 01:59:37.399 --> 01:59:40.439 is why when he made the call allegedly four million 2179 01:59:40.520 --> 01:59:43.760 Venezuelans armed up waiting for an American invasion. How did 2180 01:59:43.760 --> 01:59:47.600 he call upon four million Venezuelans to arm up unless 2181 01:59:47.640 --> 01:59:49.760 they were all a part of this paramilitary group that 2182 01:59:49.800 --> 01:59:53.039 he claims doesn't exist, even though he wears the metals 2183 01:59:53.119 --> 01:59:57.560 of that paramilitary group when he's in uniform. But anyway, 2184 01:59:57.680 --> 01:59:59.960 so now we have this situation where the US military 2185 02:00:00.119 --> 02:00:04.560 actually intercepted a vessel coming from Venezuela full of drugs. 2186 02:00:04.720 --> 02:00:06.359 Tony, this was excellent. 2187 02:00:08.079 --> 02:00:10.159 Yeah, they blew it up and I saw a lot 2188 02:00:10.159 --> 02:00:14.199 of reactions on Twitter, some very positive, some very negative. 2189 02:00:16.439 --> 02:00:19.039 I'm kind of negative on it. I think the US 2190 02:00:19.319 --> 02:00:21.960 CIA does a lot of drug trafficking and their only 2191 02:00:22.000 --> 02:00:25.279 crime was drug trafficking. Without being a friend of the CIA, 2192 02:00:25.920 --> 02:00:29.680 I think that we should legal relegalize drugs, but it's 2193 02:00:29.720 --> 02:00:32.239 never going to happen because the CIA can't make money 2194 02:00:32.239 --> 02:00:32.920 if they're legal. 2195 02:00:34.000 --> 02:00:35.720 I agree with the most of what you just said, 2196 02:00:35.840 --> 02:00:38.600 for sure. The CIA absolutely has done drug running for 2197 02:00:38.640 --> 02:00:43.880 the majority of their existence. Right However, I would like 2198 02:00:44.039 --> 02:00:46.920 to believe that Cash Pattel has put a stop to 2199 02:00:47.039 --> 02:00:48.680 most of it. I could be so wrong, and he's 2200 02:00:48.680 --> 02:00:51.119 absolutely on the take. I don't exactly trust him. 2201 02:00:51.439 --> 02:00:54.600 I could also I could also be in favor of 2202 02:00:54.600 --> 02:00:57.079 banning them all if we could actually ban them, but 2203 02:00:57.520 --> 02:01:02.119 we can't do that. We're not Homogenie. We're too corrupt, 2204 02:01:02.520 --> 02:01:05.079 and it would just never work. It would be kind 2205 02:01:05.079 --> 02:01:07.800 of like the war on drugs of the last century. 2206 02:01:08.119 --> 02:01:11.319 It's just not gonna work. Prohibition didn't work. It can 2207 02:01:11.399 --> 02:01:13.880 work in some societies, it can't work for us. 2208 02:01:14.239 --> 02:01:19.279 Yeah, my issue with the drugs aren't actually the drugs themselves. 2209 02:01:19.800 --> 02:01:23.439 My issue with the drugs are the cartels, because you 2210 02:01:23.439 --> 02:01:27.479 can't separate one from the other. And aside from Trump 2211 02:01:27.920 --> 02:01:32.079 listing cartels as terrorist groups, which I think is there's 2212 02:01:32.119 --> 02:01:34.760 a very strong case to be made for that. The 2213 02:01:34.800 --> 02:01:38.279 cartels don't just run drugs. They do all kinds of 2214 02:01:38.319 --> 02:01:42.720 horrible things in this country with impunity. That's what I 2215 02:01:42.760 --> 02:01:44.520 want to have a stop put to. And it's not 2216 02:01:44.600 --> 02:01:48.319 just the illegals. It's not just the coyotes. It's it's 2217 02:01:48.439 --> 02:01:52.279 all of that, including the human trafficking, including the sex trafficking, 2218 02:01:52.359 --> 02:01:55.800 including the drug trade, including the weapons trafficking, including all 2219 02:01:55.840 --> 02:01:59.399 the other stuff. The Trende or Wawa cartel that is 2220 02:01:59.520 --> 02:02:02.720 running off muck in like fourteen states right now. They 2221 02:02:02.720 --> 02:02:06.239 are out of their way violent, They're not criminal businessmen, 2222 02:02:06.960 --> 02:02:09.159 you know what I'm saying. I sure, okay, the same 2223 02:02:09.199 --> 02:02:12.359 with the mafia, the mafia, ram Booze. I don't have 2224 02:02:12.399 --> 02:02:14.880 a problem with Booze. I do have a problem with 2225 02:02:15.039 --> 02:02:18.840 violence on American soil. I have a problem with foreign 2226 02:02:18.920 --> 02:02:21.760 violence making its way to American soil, and the cartel 2227 02:02:21.840 --> 02:02:24.079 seem to be the main highway for all of it. 2228 02:02:24.840 --> 02:02:27.159 And unfortunately, you have to speak to the cartel in 2229 02:02:27.159 --> 02:02:29.720 the language that they understand. The way they understand is 2230 02:02:29.720 --> 02:02:32.600 either getting involved in stopping their flow of money or 2231 02:02:32.680 --> 02:02:35.640 getting involved in inflicting more violence on them than they 2232 02:02:35.640 --> 02:02:38.640 are used to. And unless we are going to start 2233 02:02:38.640 --> 02:02:42.520 invading foreign nations, to start an actual war with cartels, 2234 02:02:42.960 --> 02:02:45.039 hitting them in their wallets is the next best thing. 2235 02:02:45.399 --> 02:02:47.640 So that's why I'm in favor of the stop of 2236 02:02:47.680 --> 02:02:50.520 the drugs into the Sinaloa and the stop of the 2237 02:02:50.560 --> 02:02:53.760 drugs from Venezuela. I am in favor of personal freedom. 2238 02:02:53.920 --> 02:02:56.439 I think that like, if you want, as a free 2239 02:02:56.560 --> 02:02:59.760 and independent human being, if you want to go do cocaine, brother, 2240 02:03:00.199 --> 02:03:02.319 after it, it is all you. I got no problems 2241 02:03:02.359 --> 02:03:06.279 with it, no judgment, all good. But how did that 2242 02:03:06.319 --> 02:03:09.359 cocaine get here? Was there slave labor that was used 2243 02:03:09.399 --> 02:03:12.359 to make it? Or transport it? Was the only thing 2244 02:03:12.439 --> 02:03:15.359 on that transport drugs or was there also like eight 2245 02:03:15.439 --> 02:03:17.680 year old sex slaves that were making its way into 2246 02:03:17.680 --> 02:03:18.399 the country with it. 2247 02:03:18.479 --> 02:03:20.840 You see what I'm saying, it's not. 2248 02:03:22.560 --> 02:03:29.199 Yeah. In other news, China and Venezuela I read signed 2249 02:03:29.239 --> 02:03:33.159 some kind of bilateral trade agreement, and back in May, 2250 02:03:35.000 --> 02:03:38.000 I think they signed a trade agreement with Russia, and 2251 02:03:38.520 --> 02:03:42.039 Venezuela is considering buying Chinese fighter jets. I don't know 2252 02:03:42.119 --> 02:03:47.439 how expensive those are or if they did they work 2253 02:03:47.520 --> 02:03:48.000 that well. 2254 02:03:48.680 --> 02:03:50.399 Yeah, China just had a big parade. 2255 02:03:50.439 --> 02:03:51.920 As a matter of fact, I was gonna show a 2256 02:03:51.960 --> 02:03:54.720 clip from it, but it was showing some new drones. 2257 02:03:54.760 --> 02:03:57.760 They got some new ICBMs, they got some new just 2258 02:03:57.800 --> 02:04:00.600 all their new hardware. And then it all so said. 2259 02:04:00.720 --> 02:04:02.880 Seeing as how none of these things have been tested, 2260 02:04:03.399 --> 02:04:06.600 how effective they are is still open for debate, and 2261 02:04:06.640 --> 02:04:11.439 I'm just like, yeah, yeah, I don't know that would 2262 02:04:11.439 --> 02:04:13.640 make sense though, right it would make sense. Venezuela and 2263 02:04:13.720 --> 02:04:16.319 Russia have been tight for a while. Venezuela and China 2264 02:04:16.319 --> 02:04:19.000 are tight right now. I'm not sure Venezuela is a 2265 02:04:19.000 --> 02:04:21.159 part of bricks yet. I feel like if they're not, 2266 02:04:21.239 --> 02:04:23.840 they will be soon. I feel like we just talked 2267 02:04:23.840 --> 02:04:25.479 about that a couple of weeks ago. As a matter of fact, 2268 02:04:25.479 --> 02:04:29.920 I could be wrong, but Venezuela's main export is above 2269 02:04:30.000 --> 02:04:32.960 board anyway, is oil, and that's why their economy was 2270 02:04:33.000 --> 02:04:35.720 doing so well in the early two thousands. So it 2271 02:04:35.760 --> 02:04:37.800 would make sense to me that they would sign a 2272 02:04:37.840 --> 02:04:41.840 trade deal with China because China needs more oil. Russia 2273 02:04:41.880 --> 02:04:44.000 has been their biggest supplier for a long time. But 2274 02:04:45.119 --> 02:04:47.600 that also kind of leads me to question why they're 2275 02:04:47.600 --> 02:04:52.279 making such a treaty style trade deal with Venezuela. Is 2276 02:04:52.279 --> 02:04:55.159 it because the Russian oil is being used for other 2277 02:04:55.199 --> 02:04:58.960 purposes they're forced to outsource to feed their demand, or 2278 02:04:59.000 --> 02:05:01.840 is this just kind of strength ties with a nation 2279 02:05:01.960 --> 02:05:05.039 that is closer to your on this side of the world. 2280 02:05:04.680 --> 02:05:08.199 I don't know. There's multiple angles to look at that through, 2281 02:05:08.239 --> 02:05:10.960 but it very much makes sense to me that because 2282 02:05:11.000 --> 02:05:15.000 Venezuela is an enemy of America as of this moment, anyway, 2283 02:05:15.079 --> 02:05:16.399 Maduro has sought to that. 2284 02:05:17.439 --> 02:05:20.000 Yes, I think it's primarily the second thing you said, 2285 02:05:21.000 --> 02:05:23.760 not so much that China really needs more oil, because 2286 02:05:23.760 --> 02:05:26.800 they get plenty from Russia, and Venezuelan oil is full 2287 02:05:26.880 --> 02:05:31.159 of sulfur. It is horrible to work with and you 2288 02:05:31.239 --> 02:05:33.399 live in a place that's kind of close to the Venezuela, 2289 02:05:33.479 --> 02:05:36.359 so you and around a bunch of oil refinery, so 2290 02:05:36.439 --> 02:05:38.039 you might know as much about that as I do. 2291 02:05:38.159 --> 02:05:39.960 I used to work at an oil refinery, but it 2292 02:05:40.000 --> 02:05:41.079 was in California. 2293 02:05:42.000 --> 02:05:46.119 Yeah, Venezuela's got the stinky oil, and in Asia they have, Yeah, 2294 02:05:46.159 --> 02:05:47.680 they have the sulfur and a lot of their oil, 2295 02:05:47.680 --> 02:05:50.239 which there is a process to remove it, but it 2296 02:05:50.319 --> 02:05:54.279 is extremely expensive. And that's the thing. Like, if China's 2297 02:05:54.279 --> 02:05:56.640 gonna buy Venezuelan oil, I don't know if they even 2298 02:05:56.720 --> 02:05:59.720 care that it stinks or not. But it is a 2299 02:05:59.720 --> 02:06:02.520 pain the ass to work with the process to desulfurize 2300 02:06:02.560 --> 02:06:04.840 it is a pain in the ass. Uh. 2301 02:06:04.960 --> 02:06:07.359 Asia has a lot of sweet oil, right you. 2302 02:06:07.600 --> 02:06:10.319 You if you're doing like the Chinese oil rigs off 2303 02:06:10.359 --> 02:06:13.399 the coast, they don't even have to go way, way, 2304 02:06:13.439 --> 02:06:15.239 way deep to get it. They could damn near just 2305 02:06:15.279 --> 02:06:17.239 punch a hole in the seafloor and they got oil 2306 02:06:17.279 --> 02:06:17.920 spurting up. 2307 02:06:18.000 --> 02:06:19.520 And it's easier to work with. 2308 02:06:19.560 --> 02:06:21.680 But it's also a quality issue at that point, if 2309 02:06:21.720 --> 02:06:23.840 I'm not mistaken. It's been a while since I looked 2310 02:06:23.880 --> 02:06:26.760 into it, but uh, but yeah, Venezuela does have oil, 2311 02:06:26.800 --> 02:06:28.119 and even if you're not gonna use it for a 2312 02:06:28.119 --> 02:06:30.359 fuel source, using it for its plastics, and using it 2313 02:06:30.359 --> 02:06:32.600 for its other components that you could extract off of it, 2314 02:06:32.600 --> 02:06:33.920 it's doable. 2315 02:06:34.600 --> 02:06:37.439 Pain in the ass, but doable. But yeah, I. 2316 02:06:37.640 --> 02:06:39.640 Don't know what to expect from all of it. It 2317 02:06:39.680 --> 02:06:42.479 is Uh, it's very difficult to say at this time, 2318 02:06:42.520 --> 02:06:45.920 but I don't think Maduro is doing the best job. 2319 02:06:46.199 --> 02:06:51.199 And I have a feeling if history is in fact 2320 02:06:51.479 --> 02:06:53.640 the thing that repeats itself as often as it does, 2321 02:06:54.319 --> 02:06:58.239 it stands to reason to me that Marduro might be 2322 02:06:58.439 --> 02:07:03.199 on the verge of a coup in the next decade. 2323 02:07:04.800 --> 02:07:05.000 Yeah. 2324 02:07:05.039 --> 02:07:07.960 I was just looking up his main competitors, some woman 2325 02:07:08.239 --> 02:07:12.960 and her name escapes me at the moment. Yeah, from 2326 02:07:13.039 --> 02:07:15.479 son or something that probably is wrong. 2327 02:07:15.640 --> 02:07:19.640 I could see it. That being said, when and if 2328 02:07:19.680 --> 02:07:27.560 that coup happens, will the American three letter agencies be involved? Yeah, yes, probably. 2329 02:07:27.840 --> 02:07:28.880 It's not even a probably. 2330 02:07:28.920 --> 02:07:31.640 It's a garant fucking tea at this point, but yeah, yeah, yeah, 2331 02:07:31.760 --> 02:07:33.000 it's a rhetorical question. 2332 02:07:33.960 --> 02:07:34.399 Man. 2333 02:07:35.039 --> 02:07:39.159 Yeah, Maduro is he is swinging for the fences, that 2334 02:07:39.279 --> 02:07:39.920 is for sure. 2335 02:07:40.079 --> 02:07:41.880 We will see how it plays out. We'll see how 2336 02:07:41.880 --> 02:07:42.680 it all shakes out. 2337 02:07:42.720 --> 02:07:46.199 But yeah, the drug the drug boat getting blown up, 2338 02:07:46.399 --> 02:07:49.760 that's awesome. I'm in favor of that. Again, not I'm 2339 02:07:49.800 --> 02:07:52.760 not trying to infringe on someone's personal freedoms. If it 2340 02:07:52.800 --> 02:07:55.279 was just drugs, then it would be just drugs and 2341 02:07:55.279 --> 02:07:56.760 I wouldn't have that much of a problem with it. 2342 02:07:56.840 --> 02:07:58.000 That's a personal issue. 2343 02:07:58.600 --> 02:08:02.399 Yeah, I still believe like Portugal and Switzerland have a 2344 02:08:02.439 --> 02:08:05.039 good approach. They treat it just as a medical problem. 2345 02:08:05.039 --> 02:08:08.399 It's legal, it's cheap, you get a prescription though. It's 2346 02:08:08.399 --> 02:08:13.159 handled that way, and it's possible for drug addicts to 2347 02:08:13.279 --> 02:08:19.000 have a stable supply of their drug whatever they're hooked on, 2348 02:08:19.600 --> 02:08:22.560 and they get a reliable quantity of it. And I 2349 02:08:22.600 --> 02:08:26.000 think nutrition is also part of really the root of 2350 02:08:26.000 --> 02:08:28.439 the problem of so many health problems in this country, 2351 02:08:28.680 --> 02:08:32.239 and that leads to people getting prescription painkillers, and then 2352 02:08:32.399 --> 02:08:36.199 that leads to people getting heroin because it's a third 2353 02:08:36.239 --> 02:08:38.960 the price of the prescription one on the black market, 2354 02:08:39.000 --> 02:08:42.399 which they're unable to continue to get a prescription for. 2355 02:08:42.960 --> 02:08:46.000 It's just one thing leading to another, and people who 2356 02:08:46.000 --> 02:08:48.520 aren't bad people and don't think of themselves as drug 2357 02:08:48.600 --> 02:08:51.640 users just end up slipping into it by accident. 2358 02:08:52.079 --> 02:08:54.439 Yeah, yeah, it's just. 2359 02:08:55.279 --> 02:08:57.840 We should do what Portugal in Switzerland do, but we 2360 02:08:57.880 --> 02:09:01.840 can't because again, the CIA can't make money at it. 2361 02:09:02.119 --> 02:09:04.279 I think that's a two prong issue though, A, you're 2362 02:09:04.279 --> 02:09:06.840 correct the CIA can't make money off of legal drugs, 2363 02:09:06.880 --> 02:09:10.119 and B I think there's also a cultural thing that 2364 02:09:10.159 --> 02:09:12.720 needs to be at least aired on that one. Right, 2365 02:09:12.800 --> 02:09:16.279 Portugal and Switzerland and other European nations, they don't have 2366 02:09:16.359 --> 02:09:20.960 a culture of excess. Right. Of course, you have your 2367 02:09:21.000 --> 02:09:23.720 like super wealthy elites out there that do have an 2368 02:09:23.760 --> 02:09:28.279 excessive lifestyle like that exists, but your average Portuguese person 2369 02:09:28.319 --> 02:09:31.279 does not live a culture or at least have the 2370 02:09:31.359 --> 02:09:34.319 mindset of like we need more of everything, we need 2371 02:09:34.359 --> 02:09:36.560 to overdo stuff, we need to do things to the max, 2372 02:09:36.600 --> 02:09:39.760 and all of these things. That's not a cultural thing 2373 02:09:39.840 --> 02:09:44.000 for them or Switzerland for that matter. That is absolutely 2374 02:09:44.439 --> 02:09:47.159 a cultural thing in America. And I'm not saying that's 2375 02:09:47.199 --> 02:09:49.880 a good thing by any means, but it's like, there's 2376 02:09:49.920 --> 02:09:53.039 a reason why in a lot of European countries you 2377 02:09:53.079 --> 02:09:56.479 can go have a glass of wine or beer at 2378 02:09:56.560 --> 02:10:01.359 lunch at your place of business because it's a cultural 2379 02:10:01.359 --> 02:10:05.039 thing there to where like people don't overdo shit on 2380 02:10:05.239 --> 02:10:07.600 Mass anyway. You'll have your oneses and Tuesdays, but not 2381 02:10:07.840 --> 02:10:11.479 on Mass. In America, if you allowed your employees to 2382 02:10:11.560 --> 02:10:14.039 drink at lunch, they would be so slash they would 2383 02:10:14.079 --> 02:10:17.039 not get back to work afterwards. That's you see what 2384 02:10:17.079 --> 02:10:21.760 I'm saying. There's like there's other issues at foot on that. Huh. 2385 02:10:22.159 --> 02:10:24.439 Yeah, I get that with alcohol. I don't really get 2386 02:10:24.439 --> 02:10:27.640 that sense with fentanyl or heroin so much. I think 2387 02:10:27.720 --> 02:10:30.640 that most of the deaths from that are either accidental 2388 02:10:30.680 --> 02:10:33.319 from people overdosing because they don't know what the dose 2389 02:10:33.319 --> 02:10:38.720 they're getting is, or deliberately suicidal because right actually want 2390 02:10:38.760 --> 02:10:39.560 to kill themselves. 2391 02:10:39.720 --> 02:10:41.960 Well, fentanyl is a different thing, right, So many drugs 2392 02:10:41.960 --> 02:10:43.800 are being cut with fentanyl. Now, Like I have a 2393 02:10:43.800 --> 02:10:45.439 buddy I served with as a matter of fact, he 2394 02:10:45.520 --> 02:10:47.399 died from an accidental fentanyl overdose. 2395 02:10:47.520 --> 02:10:48.600 Now, yes, the. 2396 02:10:48.560 --> 02:10:50.960 Conversation can come up, well, why was he using any 2397 02:10:51.079 --> 02:10:51.760 drugs at all? 2398 02:10:51.840 --> 02:10:52.399 He shouldn't have. 2399 02:10:52.439 --> 02:10:54.920 Okay, fine, fuck off with all that, right, But the 2400 02:10:55.640 --> 02:10:59.239 substance that he was participating in that evening, they didn't 2401 02:10:59.279 --> 02:11:01.640 know that it was cut fentanyl, and when they found 2402 02:11:01.680 --> 02:11:04.199 out it was after he croaked over. I have another 2403 02:11:04.239 --> 02:11:06.800 buddy of mine who got blown up in Afghanistan. 2404 02:11:06.960 --> 02:11:08.279 Okay, he was. 2405 02:11:08.319 --> 02:11:12.079 Prescribed opiates by the VA until twenty sixteen, when the 2406 02:11:12.159 --> 02:11:14.720 VA said that they were cutting off all opiates and 2407 02:11:14.800 --> 02:11:17.399 he was left with severe back pain and no way 2408 02:11:17.439 --> 02:11:19.600 to manage it. They didn't even like prescribe another type 2409 02:11:19.600 --> 02:11:22.079 of painkiller. They basically said, oh, well, too bad, so 2410 02:11:22.159 --> 02:11:25.439 said he and a lot of other veterans went to 2411 02:11:25.479 --> 02:11:27.960 the streets to score H at that point. So, like 2412 02:11:28.439 --> 02:11:30.720 the fentanyl heroin thing, I'm with you. There's people that 2413 02:11:30.880 --> 02:11:34.199 get hooked on medications prescribed to them and then go 2414 02:11:34.279 --> 02:11:36.319 to H because it's a third the price and it's 2415 02:11:36.359 --> 02:11:39.600 more readily available. And I'm not judging them. We should 2416 02:11:39.600 --> 02:11:44.199 have certain infrastructure in place for people like that. I'm 2417 02:11:44.199 --> 02:11:48.399 with you on this right. Fentanyl, the way that it's 2418 02:11:48.399 --> 02:11:51.239 making its way across I only know of a handful 2419 02:11:51.279 --> 02:11:54.600 of people that are taking fentanyl knowing that it's fentanyl 2420 02:11:54.800 --> 02:11:57.239 from the get go. Most people get strung out on 2421 02:11:57.279 --> 02:11:59.560 that because they didn't realize that that was what their 2422 02:11:59.640 --> 02:12:02.439 drug of choice is being cut with that, I have 2423 02:12:02.520 --> 02:12:03.319 an issue with. 2424 02:12:05.239 --> 02:12:06.159 There's levels there. 2425 02:12:08.600 --> 02:12:11.720 Yep. Well Portugal, Switzerland, that's that's what I vote for. 2426 02:12:11.960 --> 02:12:14.760 Orban it completely like Singapore, and that can work for them, 2427 02:12:14.880 --> 02:12:18.039 but for other reasons that just won't work here. 2428 02:12:18.079 --> 02:12:22.119 It's Singapore is a way smaller nation and they they 2429 02:12:22.239 --> 02:12:25.479 I mean, spitting gum on the sidewalk is illegal under 2430 02:12:25.479 --> 02:12:31.119 penalty of jail time in Singapore's yeah, yeah, yeah it is. 2431 02:12:31.720 --> 02:12:33.560 So yeah, I'm with you there. There's got to be 2432 02:12:33.600 --> 02:12:36.800 a better solution than what we currently have. But it's 2433 02:12:36.840 --> 02:12:40.399 also about a solution that the people would actually abide 2434 02:12:40.439 --> 02:12:41.760 by or agree to. 2435 02:12:42.399 --> 02:12:45.399 And that's it's it's a messy situation. 2436 02:12:45.760 --> 02:12:49.439 I get it. Though. Back to the chat here, Well, 2437 02:12:49.560 --> 02:12:52.159 didn't Jesus divide families too? I'm Christian, but I could 2438 02:12:52.159 --> 02:12:53.640 easily argue that he was a cult leader. 2439 02:12:54.199 --> 02:12:54.680 He didn't. 2440 02:12:55.039 --> 02:12:59.119 He wasn't telling people to like cut ties with their 2441 02:12:59.159 --> 02:13:03.880 family for not believing in Jesus. He was telling you 2442 02:13:04.000 --> 02:13:07.199 to trim the tree, so to speak, to prune the tree. 2443 02:13:07.199 --> 02:13:08.359 And that's all I was talking about. If you have 2444 02:13:08.359 --> 02:13:11.439 a toxic family member who is a real detriment to 2445 02:13:11.560 --> 02:13:14.239 your life aside from your religious beliefs, like they are 2446 02:13:14.279 --> 02:13:17.399 just doing bad things to you. You don't have to 2447 02:13:17.520 --> 02:13:22.520 stay associated with them just because of familial ties. That 2448 02:13:22.560 --> 02:13:24.680 being said, there is a lot of people that do 2449 02:13:24.800 --> 02:13:27.640 believe that Jesus was a cult leader. There's an argument 2450 02:13:27.680 --> 02:13:31.680 for that. I respectfully disagree, but I see why people 2451 02:13:31.680 --> 02:13:32.279 would think so. 2452 02:13:32.359 --> 02:13:32.680 He was. 2453 02:13:33.159 --> 02:13:35.600 He only told a few of his followers to like, 2454 02:13:35.760 --> 02:13:38.159 drop what they were doing and follow him. He was 2455 02:13:38.239 --> 02:13:40.520 not telling people to sell all their earthly possessions. He 2456 02:13:40.560 --> 02:13:43.760 said that to one dude. He abided by all Jewish 2457 02:13:43.800 --> 02:13:46.279 laws and tradition. I know, Royce, you're going to disagree 2458 02:13:46.279 --> 02:13:48.079 with some of those points, but that's a conversation for 2459 02:13:48.119 --> 02:13:51.199 another day. Yeah, I don't see Jesus as a cult leader, 2460 02:13:51.239 --> 02:13:52.520 but I see what you mean. 2461 02:13:52.640 --> 02:13:55.800 Yeah, I don't want to, but the verses are still there, 2462 02:13:55.840 --> 02:13:58.800 and I think cult leaders today will use. 2463 02:13:58.720 --> 02:14:01.319 Those verses out of context. 2464 02:14:01.560 --> 02:14:06.840 Yeah, drop everything you're doing. The two or three who said, well, 2465 02:14:06.920 --> 02:14:08.760 I want to follow you, but I have a funeral 2466 02:14:08.800 --> 02:14:10.880 to go to first for my family, and he said, 2467 02:14:11.079 --> 02:14:13.319 let the dead bury their own. You need to follow 2468 02:14:13.399 --> 02:14:17.000 me right now and just screw them, or the rich guy, 2469 02:14:17.159 --> 02:14:19.800 or I have come to set a family at war 2470 02:14:19.840 --> 02:14:22.279 with itself or something like that, two against three and 2471 02:14:22.319 --> 02:14:25.880 three against two. Whoever loves their mother or father more 2472 02:14:25.920 --> 02:14:27.920 than me is not worthy to follow me. Whoever loves 2473 02:14:27.960 --> 02:14:29.600 their son or daughter more than me is not worthy 2474 02:14:29.680 --> 02:14:32.079 to follow me. There were a good you know, maybe 2475 02:14:32.119 --> 02:14:35.800 five more verses like that, so as somebody today could 2476 02:14:35.800 --> 02:14:38.600 easily use that and say, see, see, Jesus said that, 2477 02:14:38.600 --> 02:14:40.720 that's why you need to follow me this way too. 2478 02:14:41.439 --> 02:14:44.359 I hear you. But again, those are taken out of 2479 02:14:44.439 --> 02:14:45.760 context if you look at it. 2480 02:14:45.840 --> 02:14:46.239 I don't think. 2481 02:14:46.279 --> 02:14:48.600 So you got to look at the time, place, and 2482 02:14:48.720 --> 02:14:51.600 audience when some of these are being said. Is he 2483 02:14:51.680 --> 02:14:54.600 speaking to the entirety of Christendom? Or is he speaking 2484 02:14:54.600 --> 02:14:57.439 to this entire Judaism I should say, because Christianity wasn't 2485 02:14:57.439 --> 02:14:59.399 the thing of the time. Was he talking to the 2486 02:14:59.600 --> 02:15:02.199 entirety of the congregation or was he speaking to that 2487 02:15:02.279 --> 02:15:05.399 specific person because the situation that this person was asking 2488 02:15:05.439 --> 02:15:08.600 about was something deeper that you wouldn't get if you 2489 02:15:08.640 --> 02:15:10.680 just looked at that one sentence. That's all. 2490 02:15:11.039 --> 02:15:14.279 He was speaking to the individual, but within earshot of 2491 02:15:14.359 --> 02:15:18.399 the rest of his disciples. And I don't know, well, 2492 02:15:18.439 --> 02:15:22.279 I guess Jesus was omniscient, but for the sake of 2493 02:15:22.359 --> 02:15:26.960 argument for the people leaving their funeral. I mean, nobody 2494 02:15:27.000 --> 02:15:31.359 else knew. Maybe they were terrible people that Jesus was 2495 02:15:31.359 --> 02:15:34.000 telling them to leave from that family. But it doesn't 2496 02:15:34.159 --> 02:15:36.560 it doesn't say that maybe they were just a normal 2497 02:15:36.600 --> 02:15:39.520 family and then their sons just vanished and they go. 2498 02:15:39.520 --> 02:15:43.119 Where where'd these guys go? You know, they didn't their 2499 02:15:43.159 --> 02:15:44.520 family didn't do anything wrong. 2500 02:15:45.319 --> 02:15:48.560 No, But and I don't know, maybe off the top, 2501 02:15:48.560 --> 02:15:52.399 I don't know the context to that specific story. I 2502 02:15:52.439 --> 02:15:54.560 don't know if this person that was being buried was 2503 02:15:54.640 --> 02:15:59.439 like lived a morally unjust life and he was saying, 2504 02:15:59.479 --> 02:16:01.760 like why are you worried about that? You could come 2505 02:16:01.800 --> 02:16:03.359 do this, and like that's a whole other thing that 2506 02:16:03.439 --> 02:16:05.319 the dead bury of the dead country. I don't know 2507 02:16:05.399 --> 02:16:08.760 off top, but I will say that context matters, not 2508 02:16:08.880 --> 02:16:11.119 just the context of the story, but the context of 2509 02:16:11.159 --> 02:16:13.000 the time and the place in the audience. 2510 02:16:13.800 --> 02:16:16.359 That's all, Yeah, we don't get much context in that verse. 2511 02:16:16.399 --> 02:16:18.439 It's only like, yeah, I don't know five or ten 2512 02:16:18.520 --> 02:16:20.520 of them, and you just meet these people and you 2513 02:16:20.560 --> 02:16:21.840 don't have any background. 2514 02:16:22.359 --> 02:16:24.000 Well, what I'm saying is the city that he was 2515 02:16:24.000 --> 02:16:26.119 speaking in, right, was this when he was in. 2516 02:16:26.199 --> 02:16:28.439 Don't know what city it was, that's my point. I'm sure. 2517 02:16:30.039 --> 02:16:32.280 I mean, yeah, we don't know. If you read the 2518 02:16:32.440 --> 02:16:34.559 entire chapter or you read the entire story, you'll know 2519 02:16:35.079 --> 02:16:37.520 what city he was in. You could look at what 2520 02:16:37.559 --> 02:16:40.799 the political turmoil was in that area at that time. 2521 02:16:41.200 --> 02:16:44.600 You could look at what these people like main source 2522 02:16:44.639 --> 02:16:47.239 of income was. What were these people's cultural practices at 2523 02:16:47.239 --> 02:16:49.239 this time, Like not just all of Judaism, but I 2524 02:16:49.239 --> 02:16:52.440 mean like specifically city to city, there's cultural differences, right, 2525 02:16:53.040 --> 02:16:54.920 There's there's a lot of things to be said for this. 2526 02:16:55.040 --> 02:16:57.280 The burial practices themselves are a thing. 2527 02:16:57.360 --> 02:17:00.399 It's there's there's a lot of in but between the 2528 02:17:00.399 --> 02:17:03.120 lines things that you have to study outside sources to 2529 02:17:03.239 --> 02:17:06.399 get the main section of what was being said and why. 2530 02:17:07.520 --> 02:17:09.879 That is why I do enjoy listening to BIB. 2531 02:17:11.040 --> 02:17:11.200 Yeah. 2532 02:17:11.280 --> 02:17:12.239 Yeah, we could do this another time. 2533 02:17:12.239 --> 02:17:14.159 I'm down, Hell, we could do a whole episode talking 2534 02:17:14.159 --> 02:17:16.760 about religious things, Roy Scott, things he wants to bring up, 2535 02:17:16.799 --> 02:17:20.440 you got things. I am down for the open air 2536 02:17:20.520 --> 02:17:24.440 discussion of all of these things. I love this. All right, 2537 02:17:24.520 --> 02:17:28.840 let's see here Tony sent a link. What is this 2538 02:17:29.000 --> 02:17:29.719 on X? 2539 02:17:30.559 --> 02:17:37.000 What I phrased it? Too. Blowing up drug deelers is good. 2540 02:17:37.040 --> 02:17:38.719 And then the next guy says, here's a picture of 2541 02:17:38.760 --> 02:17:41.840 you in a poppy field protecting the CIA run Afghan 2542 02:17:41.920 --> 02:17:42.879 heroin trade. 2543 02:17:43.200 --> 02:17:45.280 Yeap, that is absolutely a thing. 2544 02:17:45.920 --> 02:17:47.280 As a matter of fact, a lot of my buddies 2545 02:17:47.280 --> 02:17:52.040 that deployed were set about to guard massive marijuana fields, 2546 02:17:52.280 --> 02:17:55.360 massive poppy fields because at that time they were trying 2547 02:17:55.399 --> 02:17:59.440 to work on relations with the Taliban and the Taliban 2548 02:17:59.479 --> 02:18:02.360 at that time his main source of income was poppy 2549 02:18:02.399 --> 02:18:07.200 growth for heroin. Who was buying it, who was transporting it? 2550 02:18:07.680 --> 02:18:10.000 We don't know. These are just poppy farmers. They're just 2551 02:18:10.040 --> 02:18:14.360 decent guys. But you could literally see when the attacks 2552 02:18:14.399 --> 02:18:17.639 would happen on our service members based off of if 2553 02:18:17.639 --> 02:18:20.920 it was a planting season and harvest season. Pretty much 2554 02:18:20.920 --> 02:18:23.360 everything would stop because all of the at that time 2555 02:18:23.440 --> 02:18:26.360 quote unquote terrorists would throw down their weapons, pick up 2556 02:18:26.360 --> 02:18:29.360 their hose, and go to the fields and work. And 2557 02:18:29.399 --> 02:18:31.239 then once the work was done, it'd be a couple 2558 02:18:31.280 --> 02:18:33.799 of weeks or a couple of months, they would put 2559 02:18:33.840 --> 02:18:35.959 their gardening tools down and pick up their weapons and 2560 02:18:36.000 --> 02:18:38.079 continue the attacks. It was it was like you could 2561 02:18:38.120 --> 02:18:42.040 almost time it like clockwork, but Yeah, to your point, 2562 02:18:42.280 --> 02:18:47.200 the service members absolutely guarded these fields for the local 2563 02:18:47.600 --> 02:18:52.520 agriculture of Afghanistan, which their number one export for a 2564 02:18:52.600 --> 02:18:55.840 good portion of the last two decades was poppy that 2565 02:18:55.920 --> 02:19:00.360 would later be used to create heroin. Anyway, all right, 2566 02:19:00.920 --> 02:19:02.799 the last thing I really want to end on on 2567 02:19:02.920 --> 02:19:09.639 this episode is this news from Texas where an archaeological 2568 02:19:09.799 --> 02:19:13.799 dig site is dating back more than thirteen thousand years 2569 02:19:13.799 --> 02:19:17.079 and could rewrite the history books that we know about 2570 02:19:17.200 --> 02:19:18.639 the North American continent. 2571 02:19:18.719 --> 02:19:20.079 Let's learn together. 2572 02:19:20.559 --> 02:19:25.520 Most significant archaeological discoveries in the Western Hemisphere. It's called 2573 02:19:25.639 --> 02:19:29.440 the Gault Site, and it's rewriting textbooks about when humans 2574 02:19:29.440 --> 02:19:33.559 first came to the Americas, and it is right here 2575 02:19:33.879 --> 02:19:38.000 in central Texas. Last month, we introduced the Dallas filmmaker 2576 02:19:38.000 --> 02:19:40.440 who'd worked for years to share the story of how 2577 02:19:40.440 --> 02:19:43.799 this site was saved, and well, we were curious, so 2578 02:19:43.840 --> 02:19:47.000 photojournalist Alexas Ramirez and I took a little road trip, 2579 02:19:47.159 --> 02:19:57.319 and this morning we're inviting you along on an unremarkable 2580 02:19:57.319 --> 02:20:02.440 stretch of roadway surrounded by quarries just north of Austin. 2581 02:20:02.719 --> 02:20:06.319 There's only a handful of sites like this one. 2582 02:20:06.680 --> 02:20:13.159 You'll find gold An archaeological site so significantly that it's 2583 02:20:13.280 --> 02:20:17.760 rewriting textbooks and challenging what experts thought they knew about 2584 02:20:17.760 --> 02:20:19.280 the people of the Americas. 2585 02:20:19.719 --> 02:20:20.760 It's a place that. 2586 02:20:23.639 --> 02:20:28.680 Has been known and used by indigenous people for tens 2587 02:20:28.760 --> 02:20:29.840 of thousands of years. 2588 02:20:29.959 --> 02:20:34.520 Professor Mike Adlery, he's an archaeologist and cheers SMU's anthropology department. 2589 02:20:34.879 --> 02:20:37.520 He too, is eager to see what is uncovered about 2590 02:20:37.559 --> 02:20:41.120 the earliest humans in the Americas, called the Clovis culture. 2591 02:20:41.799 --> 02:20:45.159 Experts put them in what is now Texas about thirteen 2592 02:20:45.319 --> 02:20:49.559 thousand years ago. The findings at Gold pre date even that. 2593 02:20:50.239 --> 02:20:53.520 What did they eat, what were they doing? People were here, 2594 02:20:53.639 --> 02:20:56.000 and people were here very early, much earlier than we 2595 02:20:56.079 --> 02:20:56.680 used to think. 2596 02:20:57.040 --> 02:21:00.520 That's exciting should we can expose them mandible. 2597 02:21:01.280 --> 02:21:03.959 There's there's more mystery under that dirt. 2598 02:21:03.639 --> 02:21:06.559 And it's a mystery that most likely would have remained 2599 02:21:06.600 --> 02:21:09.959 buried were it not for the perseverance of ut Austin 2600 02:21:10.040 --> 02:21:11.840 archaeologist doctor Mike Collins. 2601 02:21:12.120 --> 02:21:15.479 He had faith and then to put his own resources 2602 02:21:15.479 --> 02:21:18.840 into it. Again, not many colleagues would do that. So 2603 02:21:19.479 --> 02:21:21.479 it took a unique person to help to save a 2604 02:21:21.559 --> 02:21:24.879 unique site. And I'd never been on a dick with 2605 02:21:25.239 --> 02:21:27.280 that many artifacts in one unit. 2606 02:21:27.799 --> 02:21:28.680 Welcome to Golf. 2607 02:21:29.559 --> 02:21:32.399 The story of Gold and how Collins fought to save it. 2608 02:21:32.440 --> 02:21:37.879 This local site has influenced our understanding of the big 2609 02:21:38.440 --> 02:21:39.559 human history. 2610 02:21:39.799 --> 02:21:43.079 Are shared in a new independent film called The Stones 2611 02:21:43.079 --> 02:21:50.000 Are Speaking. Dallas's Olive Tally wrote, directed, and produced. 2612 02:21:50.479 --> 02:21:55.520 The golf site now is what it always has been. 2613 02:21:55.840 --> 02:22:01.440 It's a bucolic little pasture along butterm don't create in 2614 02:22:01.600 --> 02:22:05.319 central Texas. If you walked out there today, and I 2615 02:22:05.360 --> 02:22:10.920 hope your viewers will someday, you will wonder, really, how 2616 02:22:11.040 --> 02:22:17.520 could this place be so extraordinary when it looks so ordinary? 2617 02:22:18.719 --> 02:22:21.280 And that was the question one of the questions it 2618 02:22:21.360 --> 02:22:21.799 drove me. 2619 02:22:22.319 --> 02:22:23.520 The Stones Are Speaking. 2620 02:22:24.319 --> 02:22:26.959 The film has generated new interest in the site and 2621 02:22:27.079 --> 02:22:31.040 in exploring how the earliest Texans, yes, even before there 2622 02:22:31.200 --> 02:22:34.280 was a Texas, lived and survived, that there. 2623 02:22:34.200 --> 02:22:37.799 Were these persistent places that people knew depended upon. They 2624 02:22:37.879 --> 02:22:40.239 knew when they could go there, what would be available, 2625 02:22:40.600 --> 02:22:42.559 when the deer would show up, and so you have 2626 02:22:42.680 --> 02:22:45.920 this predictability that humans crave. We don't like unpredictability. 2627 02:22:46.120 --> 02:22:49.399 And is that also part of what fascinates scientists about 2628 02:22:49.399 --> 02:22:52.639 finding places like gold Because you want to know how 2629 02:22:52.639 --> 02:22:53.680 people survive. 2630 02:22:53.520 --> 02:22:56.360 Yes, yeah, and you know in some cases they didn't, 2631 02:22:56.959 --> 02:22:59.159 and then you want to find out what happened, what. 2632 02:22:59.040 --> 02:23:01.879 Life might have been like fifteen thousand years ago. 2633 02:23:02.120 --> 02:23:05.239 After Collins purchased the site, he donated it so that 2634 02:23:05.319 --> 02:23:08.200 it could be preserved for future scientists. 2635 02:23:08.239 --> 02:23:11.319 The tour starts here, but at the bottom of the 2636 02:23:11.399 --> 02:23:14.159 hill we have restrooms and water. 2637 02:23:14.520 --> 02:23:16.719 The site is also open for monthly tours. 2638 02:23:17.079 --> 02:23:19.239 Pretty much all of the archaeology happens down in the 2639 02:23:19.319 --> 02:23:20.040 valley itself. 2640 02:23:20.079 --> 02:23:24.719 We've had a couple of months ago we had two 2641 02:23:24.920 --> 02:23:28.399 ladies that were visiting a friend in San Marcus and 2642 02:23:28.440 --> 02:23:33.079 they heard about it and they were from Pacifica, California. Yeah. 2643 02:23:33.479 --> 02:23:36.479 So people are coming from all over now, like we 2644 02:23:36.559 --> 02:23:40.040 had no idea yea, and it is one of the 2645 02:23:40.079 --> 02:23:42.840 most important sites in the America's. 2646 02:23:42.520 --> 02:23:45.760 Al Kaufman says he has always been interested in archaeology 2647 02:23:45.799 --> 02:23:47.319 and came out with a group from Austin. 2648 02:23:47.639 --> 02:23:50.239 Well, I learned some things. I mean, it's fun to be, 2649 02:23:50.799 --> 02:23:52.719 you know, on the ground and see stuff. 2650 02:23:52.840 --> 02:23:55.319 Why does this matter? Why shouldn't we want to know 2651 02:23:55.479 --> 02:23:57.280 more about the early people here? 2652 02:23:57.639 --> 02:24:02.159 Because history tells us who we are, and without understanding that, 2653 02:24:03.280 --> 02:24:05.000 ride's a better understanding of who we are. 2654 02:24:05.079 --> 02:24:07.840 The Golt Site is significant in part just because of 2655 02:24:07.840 --> 02:24:11.000 the sheer magnitude of what was found here. Just three 2656 02:24:11.040 --> 02:24:14.520 percent of the site has been excavated, but scientists uncovered 2657 02:24:14.559 --> 02:24:18.719 more than two and a half million Clovis artifacts. It 2658 02:24:19.079 --> 02:24:22.399 since been covered to protect it. But the good news 2659 02:24:22.399 --> 02:24:24.559 for those who want to preserve this space is that 2660 02:24:24.639 --> 02:24:25.799 it's all still here. 2661 02:24:26.239 --> 02:24:29.440 This was a place where there were trade routes through 2662 02:24:29.479 --> 02:24:31.479 Texas for thousands of years. 2663 02:24:31.920 --> 02:24:34.000 Elizabeth Collins is a geophysicist. 2664 02:24:34.239 --> 02:24:36.200 Yeah, I started coming out here when. 2665 02:24:36.040 --> 02:24:39.440 I was nine with an interest in archaeology. How could 2666 02:24:39.440 --> 02:24:42.360 she not. She's also Mike Collins's granddaughter. 2667 02:24:42.600 --> 02:24:46.479 And he's never talking down to you. He's just sharing 2668 02:24:46.479 --> 02:24:49.799 what he knows, and he's excited about it, and that 2669 02:24:50.079 --> 02:24:53.319 always helps bring out the excitement in other people to 2670 02:24:53.479 --> 02:24:56.520 learn and to see all of these amazing things. 2671 02:24:56.799 --> 02:24:58.639 How does it make you feel to be a part 2672 02:24:58.680 --> 02:25:01.239 of bringing groups through here to experience this. 2673 02:25:01.559 --> 02:25:05.520 I am so proud, you know. This is the biggest 2674 02:25:05.520 --> 02:25:08.680 part of his legacy, and I am honored to be 2675 02:25:08.719 --> 02:25:11.600 able to be a part of it. Because I've seen 2676 02:25:11.639 --> 02:25:13.280 a lot of it, and I want other people to 2677 02:25:13.319 --> 02:25:13.559 see it. 2678 02:25:13.600 --> 02:25:20.799 To her, I just couldn't leave its future to chance. 2679 02:25:21.319 --> 02:25:23.840 In our film, Tally shares that part of what drove 2680 02:25:23.879 --> 02:25:27.079 her to document the Gault story is that Collins can 2681 02:25:27.120 --> 02:25:30.239 no longer share it for himself. He was diagnosed with 2682 02:25:30.319 --> 02:25:32.000 Alzheimer's in twenty twenty two. 2683 02:25:32.760 --> 02:25:35.959 Because Robbie, if we don't have. 2684 02:25:36.000 --> 02:25:40.360 People like this in our society, if we don't have 2685 02:25:40.440 --> 02:25:43.799 people who are driven to make a difference, what. 2686 02:25:43.799 --> 02:25:44.360 Do we have. 2687 02:25:47.799 --> 02:25:50.040 It's something proud of for so many reasons. First that 2688 02:25:50.479 --> 02:25:53.440 it's unique that it's in Texas, that it's so old, 2689 02:25:53.799 --> 02:26:00.000 but also it's a story of potential harm, potential laws. 2690 02:26:00.840 --> 02:26:06.440 In the end, triumph, Mike Collins got it done, you know, and. 2691 02:26:06.440 --> 02:26:07.280 Save this place. 2692 02:26:08.159 --> 02:26:09.000 And that's a big deal. 2693 02:26:09.120 --> 02:26:10.520 That's a really big deal move. 2694 02:26:13.120 --> 02:26:17.200 The documentary is winning awards at film festivals all across 2695 02:26:17.239 --> 02:26:18.959 the country. Check it out for yourself. 2696 02:26:19.959 --> 02:26:22.159 You know, I did want to end this episode on 2697 02:26:22.440 --> 02:26:25.079 a positive note, and I thought that was as good 2698 02:26:25.120 --> 02:26:29.520 as any right. This archaeological dig site, only three percent 2699 02:26:29.520 --> 02:26:32.079 of it's been excavated, and they have found over two 2700 02:26:32.200 --> 02:26:36.520 million artifacts from the Clovis people. This goes back thirteen 2701 02:26:36.680 --> 02:26:39.760 thousand years. I know a lot of people, especially as 2702 02:26:39.760 --> 02:26:42.639 we've been talking about some religious conversations this evening, a 2703 02:26:42.680 --> 02:26:45.000 lot of people believe that the Earth is only like 2704 02:26:45.319 --> 02:26:48.719 six thousand years old, or maybe somewhere around ten thousand 2705 02:26:48.799 --> 02:26:51.959 years old. I'm not going to sit here and say 2706 02:26:52.000 --> 02:26:54.000 that it is in fact four point six billion. I 2707 02:26:54.040 --> 02:26:57.639 don't know. What I am saying is that human existence 2708 02:26:57.719 --> 02:27:00.520 on this planet has been a thing for a lot 2709 02:27:00.600 --> 02:27:06.840 longer than the believed by some six to seven thousand years, 2710 02:27:06.840 --> 02:27:11.959 give or take by land like leaves and bounds. And 2711 02:27:12.000 --> 02:27:15.079 you know, there's more archaeological dig sites around the world 2712 02:27:15.079 --> 02:27:17.159 that are starting to show that. And I mean a 2713 02:27:17.159 --> 02:27:19.799 lot of them are around Europe and around the Middle 2714 02:27:19.799 --> 02:27:21.680 East and things like that, and around you know, the 2715 02:27:21.719 --> 02:27:24.719 Horn of Africa and stuff. But I for one, am 2716 02:27:24.760 --> 02:27:27.520 happy to hear that there's dig sites in Miami and 2717 02:27:27.559 --> 02:27:31.920 in Texas and all over America, North America specifically, but 2718 02:27:32.000 --> 02:27:35.079 America as a country that are showing that in and 2719 02:27:35.120 --> 02:27:37.719 of themselves. That makes me happy. And you know what, 2720 02:27:37.799 --> 02:27:40.840 I think that's a pretty decent spot to end this episode. 2721 02:27:41.399 --> 02:27:43.440 As I said in the beginning, for any of the listeners, 2722 02:27:43.479 --> 02:27:46.079 the thousands of people that are listening to this every week. 2723 02:27:46.239 --> 02:27:49.159 If you would like to join in this conversation, please 2724 02:27:49.239 --> 02:27:51.399 come to the link below and check out the Cajun 2725 02:27:51.479 --> 02:27:54.120 Night on Patreon. So again, only one tier for entry. 2726 02:27:54.200 --> 02:27:58.440 We're trying to just grow this to become its own, independent, 2727 02:27:58.719 --> 02:28:01.879 growing community, to be affiliated with the Cult of Conspiracy 2728 02:28:01.920 --> 02:28:04.120 as well, but also, as you can tell, we don't 2729 02:28:04.159 --> 02:28:07.479 go deep into the conspiracyory of conversation. We talk about 2730 02:28:07.520 --> 02:28:11.799 the religion, the history, the news, geopolitics, all the stuff, 2731 02:28:11.920 --> 02:28:15.200 all the things that we find interesting. Once again link 2732 02:28:15.239 --> 02:28:18.239 in the description below. Again, everybody, thank y'all for joining 2733 02:28:18.239 --> 02:28:21.440 me this evening. I am the Cajun Knights, and as always, 2734 02:28:21.879 --> 02:28:22.479 God bless