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a little sports court. That's right, ladies and gentlemen, We're
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Utah ESPN Radio network. I love talking sports. I love
talking law with the best in the business, the most
trusted injury attorneys Preston and Garrett Handy. We're going to
welcome them in here momentarily. It's time to play a
little judge and jury. What's the verdict on the biggest
headlines in sports and law. We're going to get a
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ESPN Radio network. Each week, we're really breaking down the
real life legal drama that intersects with your favorite athletes, teams, leagues, etc.
And I know, chaos, sideline, scandal's core and battles, you
name it, we delve into it with Garrett and Preston
Handy on the line. Gentlemen, how you guys doing? You
guys ready for the little sports court?
Speaker 4: Been doing well, let's get into some sports court.
Speaker 2: We're ready.
Speaker 4: It's tough.
Speaker 2: Boom, shock a lock. All right, Well, let's get into it.
The latest on the Parker Kingston case. What do we have, gentlemen,
what's the recent report coming out of the courts.
Speaker 4: Well, I hadn't heard this, so you guys turned us
onto this.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: The the procedural part is it says that attorney has
withdrawn headline thought, oh yeah, he's lost his attorney. But
it says that his main attorney, Cara toung Gero, is
gessing what happened is maybe she had some associate attorneys
or someone that she was with and they've decide to
get out of the case for one reason or another,
and the judge's granted that. So she his main lawyer, says,
he is still represented by her. So that's the good
part of his The thing that caught my attention here,
and this kind of gets away from it. But one
thing that a lot of people when this was filed
and he was charged, there was all these of her
side of the story, and you know, we got word
that he said this was a consensual Well, well, it
looks like a court filing and it's a quote and
it's essentially you can read it and it basically says,
it's a quote his words, I didn't take advantage.
Speaker 5: This is to her.
Speaker 4: I didn't take it. I think it was in casual.
You said, yes, I thought it was consensual. I would
never have done that. I'm just paraphrasing. He says, I'm
sorry you took it the wrong way. I never would
have done this. I regret it. I'm really sorry, you know.
So that's going to be his defense. But my question
is is that something that the court that his pleadings
that and Garrett can offer his opinion that they submitted,
you know, based on what he's telling his lawyers that
I wanted to submit it, or is that from an
actual communication between them, because that will be pretty key
to his defense, you know, if there's a text or
an email or something you know, online between them, where
because all we've ever heard is what she said, you know,
and then just that he's claiming this was consensual, but
nothing in detail like this.
Speaker 6: Did you see that, Garrett? Yeah, no, I'm with you
on that, but I'm yeah, not totally sure. We haven't
seen the whole story on what she's saying or he's saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. My initial thought too, guys, I thought
it was a little bit click baitish with the law
layers were drawing from Parkingston casey as hearing is postponed
and then and then they clarify Kingston is still represented
by defense attorney Kara to Tangaro, I was, uh, I
was a little bit taken back by the title and
the titling of this particular piece, and it sounds like
you guys initially interpreted the same.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know what people think when they see
that kind of headline. If they think, oh, well, they're
they're withdrawing because they think, you know, Parker's guilty and
they don't want to defend him, right, I mean, and
I think that's maybe what you're alluding to, Ben is clickbaity,
and it's is the wrong assumption. You know, I think,
let's not read too much into this. He's got counsel.
Speaker 2: So yeah, he's got counsel, no doubt about it. Well,
you know, we we I'm sure we're going to get
more details. It's a there's I guess a delay in
the hearing. It'll be moved to April twenty third, it
looks like and I don't know what the proceedings will
be at that point, but what would be the next
steps in that hearing? What will we find out in
that hearing? Would you guys surmise just one of the.
Speaker 4: Things leading up to trial, the judge likes to check
in with the parties. Maybe someone has filed the motion
that they want in front of the court. You know,
she might have filed the motion for more evidence or
you know, their position, or she might have filed the
motion to have the charges dismissed. We don't know that
this or it might just be a regularly scheduled check
in with the attorneys as they kind of push this
towards trial.
Speaker 2: Do we get a sense of whether or not this
is going to go to trial or not. The probability
of this going to trial.
Speaker 6: Well, I guess I'll make my prediction here. I'm going
to say, no, I don't think we'll see this thing
go to trial. Uh.
Speaker 4: My prediction is if the prosecution stands firm on their
position and they feel like they have a defense, it
will go to trial. If he's got a very strong
defense that this was consensial, and if it's a he said,
she said, and if there's not anything else out there,
that's kind of the smoking gun, because the minute he
agrees to a plea, a lot comes with that. It
might be a reduced please, well, it might be a
very he would never Probably part of plea bargaining is bargaining.
It's negotiation, and typically don't agree to the most significant
highest charge. It's reduced to something below that, and you know,
and the penalties reduced that type of thing. So, but
then again, this is always going to be attached that
he entered a plea and people entered the police into
please for all different kinds of reasons they do, you know,
because of risk and things like that. So it's all
going to be based on what the evidence the prosecution
really has.
Speaker 6: There are just one last thing better though, I mean,
these are hard cases. These are hard cases for the
prosecution to prove, right. I mean, there is such a
he said, she said component to these kinds of cases.
So it's a big burden.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so to take the jury out of out
of the county in which this occurred, correct, what are
the what's the process of choosing a jury to oversee
this this this trial if it does go to trial.
Speaker 6: Well, there's a there's a whole selection process, right, And
obviously a story like this that is is so high profile,
with a defendantness so high profile, they'll want to be
really careful on how they pick this jury right to
avoid bias. But you know, each side has some challenges
where they can have jurors removed for a different reason,
and the judge in Utah is going to be involved
in that process and helping to select the jury typically
and the lawyers are able to ask some questions of
these jurors. And so because the idea is right, I mean,
we've got to have a he's entitled to a fair
and impartial jury to hear the case. And and so
there's some work that has to be done to get
to that point.
Speaker 2: Gentlemen, let's uh, let's pivot here. NFL gender bias law lawsuit.
It looks like there's a female ref that is suing.
What's the latest on this particular situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got Robin Di Lorenzo, who is one of
the first female NFL refs. After climbing the ranks in
high school. In college, she hit the highest of her
profession and was a ref in the NFL well the
end of twenty twenty five seasons. She was let go
fired by the NFL and they claim it was for
documented under performance. Now she has filed a lawsuit against
the NFL, a civil rights law suit. She's claiming gender discrimination.
She cites a number of instances where she says there
was harassment and hostility towards her because of her gender.
She talks about specifics like she got her uniform and
it was a man sized uniform. She was told to
wear her ponytail out so people would know in the
public that they had a female ref out there. She
was subject to profanity hostility that other refs weren't. She
was made to go to training. These are all her allegations,
claims that she was made to go to training that
the male refs were not, she had to train with
college and high school refs. And so now she's coming
after the NFL and says part of it. Losso says, hey, NFL,
instead of supporting one of the only women on its staff,
the NFL exposed her to unchecked harassment, denied her the
resources given to men, manipulate her training and grading opportunities
which goes to the performance, and ultimately ended her career
based on tainted evaluations. So one thing I haven't seen
is this is a wrongful termination, But with those words there,
it seems like it probably is, and she's seeking damages,
and her damage will essentially be, Hey, I reached the
highest level of our profession. Probably didn't get paid what
everyone did based on tenure, but I reached the highest level,
and now I don't have that job anymore, and it
was the job I wanted, and I can quantify it.
Then now I don't have it, and this is what
you owe me. But again she's got to prove her case.
And the NFL has come out and said, wait a minute,
we pride ourselves on being fair. This was solely based
on performance, and we'll defend this vigorously. That's what you
always hear, will defend this vigorously.
Speaker 2: The vigorous defense is always the biggest defense, always the
best offense. Let's move on to the Major League Baseball.
Former Major League Baseball Commission Peter Uperol's daughter is telling
the court that a trustee misused millions of dollars. When
you say millions of dollars, a lot of ears are
going to perk up, a lot of eyebrows are going
to perk up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: What it means is this family, Peter and his wife,
they have a very large trust. And when you have
a trust that big and not much money involved, you
typically do have a professional trustee involved. And this is
a person who owes a fiduciary duty to Peter and
his wife, who brought to manage the money for them.
And so what the allegation is is that as this
man and his wife, theater who is a former MLB commissioner.
Why we're talking about on sports court. He was headed
up the LA Olympics, so a real prominent figure in
across sports, but especially in baseball. But as he's aged, right,
and there's some decline happening and some dementia and some
difficulty in making certain decisions, especially complex financial decisions. And
so his daughter is intervening and saying, hey, I mean
more or less that this trustee is taking advantage of
his parents where they're not really able to make these decisions.
He's doing things that are benefiting him personally as the
trustee and not them, and so wants to have him removed.
So I mean, I think it's probably going to be
a pretty contentious thing. I mean, those are serious allegations
against the trustee, especially one who is an attorney and
has these duties to his client.
Speaker 2: The trust you know what I mean, Like everybody wants
to be a trust fund baby, but no one, no
one really, you know, I don't know, I don't know
how many trust fund babies end up being okay in
all things right, it feels like there's always entitlement with
the trust fund stuff. Uh, there's a there's a negative
and a positive connotation for that. I know everyone kind
of looks for it, but I don't know if it's
always a benefit long term for you. Uh, let's get
into this. How about Phillies Alex Bomb suing his parents
for mismanagement of the finances.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Alex Baum, third Basement for the Phillies All Star
third Baseman, He is suing his parents for mismanagement. He
states that reports that mom and dad used a series
of limited liability companies to funnel money out of his
personal accounts, which then they converted to their own use. Specifically,
he claims that they set up some LLCs and took
ten percent ownership of it. They claimed that they needed
to do that so they could perform their responsibilities and
be authorized to do this, but that it was actually
his money. Well, this all kind of came out recently
when Alec went to mom and dad and said, hey,
I want access to my accounts. I want to look
at him and they said no, And he said I
want the passwords and they wouldn't give it to him.
That's red flag number one. And then he goes back
and guess what mom and dad have done. They've lawyered up,
They've gone and got a lawyer. And this is before
he ever even sued them. Geez, thanks Mom and Dad.
And so now he wants to know what's going on.
You know, whenever you want to see the books and
someone won't let you see the books, that's a problem.
And he claims that he three million dollars has been misappropriated,
and he's going after mom and dad. Thanksgiving dinner is
not going to be a good time next year.
Speaker 2: Goodness graces, you feel like, you know, you get your
mom and dad involved to help manage your finance, because
those are the people that you can trust. But not
so fast. I mean, what do you do you know,
who do you turn to to help man money?
Speaker 4: They're you turned into someone independent that has piduciary duties, Yeah,
because you know they have piduciations and they're part of
an organization, and suing them is going to be, you know,
easier to collect from him. You know, I don't know.
I think sometimes moms parents, and we've seen this happen
with a lot of athletes. They you know, they've dedicated
themselves to their kids reaching high levels, and I think
sometimes they think when their kids reach that high level,
it's like it's cashcow time, you know, and it's just uh,
you know, the land of milk and honey, and we
got you there, we supported you, we sacrificed for you,
and so now it's time. So you know, this one
is not above board though. They're doing some things that
are behind the scenes and a little bit concealed scandalous
leg Well, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, if you're not willing to give like passwords and
stuff like that, I felt that interesting. But yeah, it
is what it is. Uh, march maddness ten years in
one lawsuit later. How about the villain Villanova's Chris Jenkins
calling his icon bitter Sweet? What's the ladies here?
Speaker 6: Yeah, And we we've actually seen a lot of these
types of lawsuits over the past couple of years, right,
former college athletes who did not get a chance to
cash in on the current nil world that we live in,
and so they've tried to bring lawsuits to capitalize on that.
And this one in particular, we thought we'd bring up.
We've all been watching, you know, the highlight from from
last weekend of Yukon Braylan Mullins right making that incredible
three pointer at the buzzer, and that is encapsulates, right,
March Madness. And one of the other most famous shots
here we're talking about is this Chris Jenkins from Villanova.
They beat Carolina ten years ago for the championship and
he made the buzzer beater three pointer, right, And I
just was going to read his quote, a quote that
he had made recently where he said, I've never been
compensated in any way for making that shot. It seems
like everybody has benefited from the shot except the guy
who made it. And part of that is, you know,
he's saying, hey, it raised the profile of the university.
They you know, probably built a new you know, facilities
and donations and things like that that that come with this. Right.
I mean, he's a legend at Villanova and in college basketball.
I mean, he's got that. But he's saying that hasn't
translated into money and they've profited off it, but he
has not. So anyway, long story short, he did bring
that case and and it was dismissed, but it was
dismissed on the grounds that he brought the case too
late and that it's passed the statute limitations.
Speaker 2: So anyway, what is the statute of limitations? Then what
is the ruling on that.
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know what it is in Pennsylvania, which
I don't know if that's where the venue is where
this was brought. I mean, the the n C double
A was a and I believe all these conferences were
defendants in this case. I mean, but I mean it certainly.
I don't know what it is. But less than ten
years ago when he made the shot, you know, we
did see. We've talked about the I think the nineteen
eighty three NC State Wolfpack team, a lot of them,
including thorough Bailey, you know, had brought a case like
this and I can't remember what happened to that. Maybe
Preston Nose. But yeah, these are old claims.
Speaker 2: Old the Statute of limitations. Got to get after it
right quick or else the Statute of Limitations comes quickly.
Let's finish off a little Tiger Woods update. Was arrested
on duy jailed, crashed his car, rolled it over. It
sounds like he's entering rehab as well. Give us the
latest on Tiger Woods.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if you haven't heard this, you've been
living under a rock. Just briefly, Tiger Woods driving last week.
I think Jupiter Island Florida. He hit the back of
a trailer, rolled his suv. Cop show up. They checked,
he's acting not right, so they run a number of
field sobriety tests. They claim that he was stumbling around
and his eyes were glazed over, his pupils were dilated.
They concluded that based on this, he was impaired, and
he was arrested and taken. He was in and they
did a blood alcohol test and it was zero point zero,
and they asked for a urine test and he refused it.
So he was charged with a separate crime in Florida.
That is a separate climb when they're requesting a lawful
test and you refuse it. So not only does he
have a DUI charge, he has a refusal to submit
to a test, which interesting. I looked at this up.
This is a recent Florida case and it says that
based on oh, I might have lost oh. Here it is.
It says under the revised law, drivers who refuse a
breath or urine tests face a second degree misdemeanor charge.
He's been charged with that and automatic like one year
driver's life suspension. Automatic sounds like that's not negotiable, which
everyone thinks that's probably a good thing for him not
to be driving anymore and up to sixty days in jail. Well,
he has entered in appearance with a lawyer at the arraignment.
The lawyer entered a Tiger didn't show up, you can
do that. He entered a plea of not guilty and
requested a jury trial in his defense. And as part
of it, I think it's a good thing. The judge
agreed that Tiger could enter rehab and it's been reported
that he's going to do that outside the country. You know,
with all the eyes on Tiger, that's a good thing.
You know, Tiger being one of the most influential sport
figures in history, you know, and eyes on him. Everyone's
hoping that he just gets things right.
Speaker 2: Well, you hate having to see stars going to rehab, right,
but Puka Nakua has entered rehab after being in the limelight,
the negative limelight multiple times over the last I don't know,
few months, and so, you know, I know he's been
accused in civil court of maybe even some sort of
you know, I can't remember what the accusation was, but
biting someone. But anyway, latest on Pooka, what do you
have for us there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is the biting case. I mean, it's pretty
crazy that that's the allegation, but you know, that's what
it is. We talked about that the other day. But
I you know, I think the update here is that he's,
you know, very publicly is doing this, is going into rehab,
and his attorney came out with a statement that I
thought was pretty transparent, talking about some of his off
the field struggles and that he's trying to get things
right in his life, which kudos to him and hope
he succeeds. But the comment that he made is he says, hey, look,
don't jump to conclusions here. This is not because of
this civil case. These are these things are not related.
He was planning on doing this anyway, but this is
just a timing thing, and so don't conflate these two issues. Obviously,
is going to continue to fight the civil case, and
I'm sure that's something we'll be talking about with you
guys in the future.
Speaker 2: Gentlemen, always appreciate your time in a little sports court segment.
That's the judge and juries, I guess, the the ultimate
verdict of this particular case, this sports score case. We
appreciate you hopping on. You guys do more than just
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Speaker 7: Updates and just like that, basketball season is over. For
the first time in program history. BYU women's basketball competed
in a postseason tournament championship game, but fell short to
the Columbia Lions eighty one to sixty four. The Lady
Gibb once again led the Cougars and scoring with twenty
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BYU will only lose one key role player to graduation.
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Jerem Jordan. Jerem, let's recap if we can the women's
basketball season. The only team to make it deep into
a postseason run. They get to the wb IT Championship game,
they fall short. Columbia just too much firepower for them
and they came short. Maybe defensively, But give me your
overall eval of this women's basketball team and what they
were able to accomplish this year.
Speaker 5: It was really really good. It was above expectation. I
didn't think that this team would make the tourney. They
almost did. They were the first team out.
Speaker 4: They make a.
Speaker 5: Run in the wvit to the championship game, and they
get a ton of confidence. They continue the chemistry they
started to get. The team really really enjoys each other.
They're going to retain most of the team. Mariah Hudgens
did jump in the portal today, but she's kind of
the only rotational piece grant that she was injured that
I expect to kind of bounce everyone else. I think
is probably going to say, You've got great, great backcourt,
especially led by Delaney Gibb who's a superstar, and then
a Levy Hamlin was tremendous as a freshman sitting Banali,
and then you have Brinley Cannon and Camrie Barber and
then oh, by the way, Kaylie Wilson, the best three
point shooter in America, is back from a mission to Baltimore.
She returned in December. She red shirted and was practicing
getting back in shape this semester, and so they need
a scoring big in the portal to replace their center Laderrocal,
who was a senior who just finished up. But I'm
very excited about this group. Lee Comar did a great job.
Twenty six wings of the most by any first year
head coach in Buoy history. Granted when Juddy you know,
had his first year, they went to the Sweet sixteen,
so that's hard to top. But Lee's awesome. The group's awesome,
and I can't wait. I think there's a real palpable
excitement about this team going in next year.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was discussing this yesterday with Darnell Dixon and
I was like, man, how did that Lee? You wonder
where this women's basketball team would have been had Lee
been the head coach this first go around as we
entered into the Big twelve. Why didn't Lee get it
the first go round? Was it just due to maybe inexperience.
He was coming from the men's team over to the
women's team and there was a little bit of a
maybe some trialing to see if he could fit into
that role.
Speaker 5: Kylo Ren said let the pass die. So I don't
know if that's what we should do in this situation.
Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna I'm always in ready, I'm always like,
what if, why not let's into the past. Oh, just
just just talk about where we made mistakes. I do
that every day, every single day here on sports radio.
Speaker 5: Well, no mistakes have ever been made. No, just kidding.
You're you're right, like you know you think back right
now and you go, well, wait a minute. I think
sometimes it's okay to to do something a little different.
And b YU at the time got coach Whiting who
was very successful AU coach and had connections at that level.
And you know, BYU was recruiting at a high level.
Remember Delaney Gabbs signed under the previous regime, and you
know there there was talent to be had there. Unfortunately
it didn't come together. And Lee Comard's the guy now
and now you move on from there. And you know,
Nancy Warner was an interesting prospect potentially at a lone
peak as well, and so it's good to have multiple
kind of options there. But I think boy has the
right person at the right time, and that's really important.
We've seen that with football and Killanie and what you
can kind of maintain as a group and get going
over the next couple of years. And when it's when
it's football and men's basket, well it's very much like okay,
year to year, we've got to retain we've got to
bring in pieces that makes sense dot in the quote
unquote Olympic sports, of which we're kind of talking about
women's basketball. It's not an NIO conversation year to year,
it's do these people want to play at this school
and for that coach and I think there's real continuity
in chemistry of people that like Lee, like the staff,
want to be at BYU, And I think right now
it's a really nice group. The next year I expect
to make DANC Tournament and hopefully do some damage as
they get more experienced, because they did have a bunch
of freshmen and soppways this year.
Speaker 2: Let's turn the page to Camp Kilani twenty twenty six
Spring football, shall we? What did we learn about BYU
football in Camp Koalani twenty twenty six springball? You know,
the conversations like the questions that we had broached or
we had posed prior to kicking off spring football was
you know, things like who's RB two, Who's RB three?
What does that depth look like? Who's wide receiver one?
What does the wide receiver room look like? Who's going
to step up? Show up? Show out? Are we going
to be a twelve personnel team with these new tight ends,
et cetera? Are starting offensive line up in the air?
Maybe some question marks there? What does the defense look
like under Kelly Papinga? And what is it that they're
going to do well? What changes will be made? Those
are just a few of the comments that that maybe
we we we were we were debating prior to kicking
it off. What did we learn though? What were some
of the questions that you had answered?
Speaker 5: How many semi collins were in that setup? And is
that the most questions ever asked in a question? I
love it. I couldn't possibly answer all of them. I
love it.
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, no, So like I did like a tweet, right,
I executed a seat a zeat and there was like
eight questions that I needed to have answered during springball,
and I just I only gave you four, baby, I
only gave you four. Okay, that's four.
Speaker 5: Way, there were at least six to seven there. Let's
go though, let's atack it. I love it. I think
they love that it's kind of all quiet on the
Western front, like you don't know, you don't know what's
going down the pipe. Like before last year, Kline Satake
felt very confident the team would be way better than
people thought because remember when Jake Retzlov leaves, all of
a sudden, the expectation is this plummet because you just
don't know who the quarterback is. And then when Bear's quarterback,
you know, a true freshman quarterback just hasn't There's been
like four dudes in the last twenty five years of
college football that have led their team to ten plus
wins as a true freshman, and then Bearby comes the fifth.
I mean, it was crazy, but Kilani felt super confident. Quietly,
he didn't want to stay it out loud. He's he's
told me off like, hey, Lavelle Edwards with several you know,
very good teams, like we knew, we knew as a group.
I think this group has that vibe again where they
expect to be ten plus win kind of vibes. They
expect to be in the mix in the Big twelve.
They expect to hopefully make the COLLG Football Playoff. But
I think there's a maturity about this group. Ben no
one saying that out loud. They're just gonna do it.
They're not gonna say it. I tell my kids all
the time, don't tell me, like show me. I think
this team is doing that right now, and they're quietly
having a great camp. Certain guys are getting healthy. Certain
position battles are playing out that will bleed into even fall.
I think the transfers that be what you got are
so specifically important at each of those positions that it
will be highly unlikely that even one or two of
them don't contribute a bunch. You know what I mean.
If you come in as a transfer, we expect you
to contribute on this team. And yet there were probably
more freshman contributors about to be involved on this team
than we've seen in a long time. I'm excited about
Braxton Lindsay as an edge rusher. I'm excited about Keenan
Poola at safety in his future. I'm excited about Devon
Ekam maybe being RB three. Does Bot Mulutalo fit into
the too deep? How about a receiver legend? Glasger is
a name that keeps being brought up. Jared Poula, Terrence
sorry on these guys could factor in. So I think
it's been a great spring ball. There's no spring portal,
so you don't have to worry about guys bouncing, which
is great. This is the squad they only expect, by
the way, to add just a couple of guys off missions.
Like I'm looking to the rosters that I've put together.
Three dudes off missions, one freshman. This is a group
that's going to be here this fall, and it's got
a maturity about it, a confidence, an execution SIONI moh
is getting healthy for RB two, he told me the
other day. Is feeling one hundred percent, which is great
after the compartment syndrome thing. So I don't think I
answered every one of those questions, but I do think
that we should expect BOI.
Speaker 2: To be good.
Speaker 5: Now they do have to graduate to the people expect
you to be good, and you are good face. There
have not been too many years been in boy history
that we can say they were expected to be a
double digit win team and they did. It's it's more
rare than you would think.
Speaker 2: So you're saying there's a pride cycle that cooks cooks
up in the Cougar Nation every now and again huh.
Speaker 5: Well, and it's external expectations sometimes too, Like you can
look at even men's hoops, it's like, why are we
so disappointed? Because the expectations were externally high? People were
telling us it was a final four team. Not We
didn't say it was a Final four team until they did.
This isn't Loan Peak three. When Loan Peak three happened,
we were the ones going internally right. We were going, hey,
there's a chance to like do what we haven't done,
which is a Final four. Nope, it's external and so
I'm stoked man. And to pick it a couple of
the questions, Yes, twelve personnel, I think boy runs out
all the time. You got to get Roger Sali Pig
and Walker lines on the field, especially with an unproven
group at receiver. Although they are confident Kyler Casper apparently
is a player that they expect to contribute in a
big way. Obviously sixty six, but like he's not just
a stiff dude who catches faith, he can get in
and out of breaks. They love the opportunity that he
could be something with healthy feet. Four years at Oregon,
only six catches were hoping for the Alex Barcelo principle, Right,
You didn't do much of Arizona to come here. You
contribute different sport, but same idea.
Speaker 2: Love that Jerem Jordan talking some Cougar football here on
your Utah ESPN Radio network. Look like I think you
bring up a really good point about there's an expectation
externally and even internally for a great year and then
you fall short. I do think after twenty sixteen like
there was a little bit of comfort there. There was
a little bit of complacency, and you had the worst
season in maybe b ORU football history in twenty seventeen.
It was bad, it was ugly man and then you
got back to your talent and development. You had some
above average to average seasons. Twenty twenty hit remarkable season
eleven to one, then you go ten and three with
that little dip on the back end versus UAB. But
twenty twenty two you had much of your returning talent
and a lot of NFL talent in that twenty twenty
two roster, and you were number I believe are number
two or number one in returning production in college football
per ESPN's sp plus metric. Bill Conley put it out there.
So when I had Bill Conley on the show, he
was super duper high on this BYU Cougar football team.
Lone Behold. You had some quarterback issues, Jacob Conover was
about to get the start vers in Notre Dame, and
still you trot it out. Instead, you tried it out
a seventy percent healthy Jaron Hall, and you lost a
Notre Dame. You lost a lot of games after that
and finally made it right with maybe a bold victory
versus SMU. But like, the expectations were super high for
that talented team, and there was a bit of a
pride cycle externally maybe internally, I feel like this year,
coming off of two double digit win seasons eleven and
two and twelve and two, and you're a top twenty
team in returning production in college football, I'm hoping fingers
Cross is not another dip here. But what makes you
optimistic that there won't be a dip like Unto twenty
twenty two and un two twenty seventeen.
Speaker 5: I just think, buys, you know, it's year four of
being in the Big twelve. I think I think BoA's weathered.
I think they've got the right you know, strength and
conditioning staff. I think they've got a tremendous football staff.
You've got the right head coach. You have an offensive
coordinator with a ton of experience. Kelly Pepingka has been
waiting for this moment.
Speaker 6: Now he gets the chance.
Speaker 5: That's a big question mark is like will the defense
be close to us good or could they be better?
You know, they've been really good the last two years,
so that's kind of my biggest question mark still. But
like the idea that Baron Bachmeyer would regress, you hope
not because he was just getting his feet wet man
and he had a thirty five, one hundred and twenty
six touchdown season when he was just barely figuring it out.
He hasn't had a spring until right now at BYU.
He was at the Stanford last year. Like that can
only help. You have one of the best running backs
you always ever had, an LJ.
Speaker 6: Martin.
Speaker 5: He might be the all time living rusher by the
end of the season. And no dude has ever led
by you four years in a row in rushing. You've
got continuity on the offensive line. You brought in some
real hogs there. Pocky f Now could be really good
at left tackle, and then Kyle Safarchok's been kind of
in and out of the lineup as a depthyece. He's
probably a starter at one of the guard spots. Bruce
Mitchell was a top ten rated center in college football
from PFF. Andrew Gentryes a national champion who did a
really nice job last year. You bring in two Big
ten tight ends, not to mention, you got some good
talent behind him wide receiver. You got some good young
talent there. Defense. You know, backers, Kadu Luave is really special.
Isaiah Glasker's back Like corners. You have Evan Johnson and
tre Alexander back raiders, Mooney Foala, Tels Satswala might have
the highest ceiling of any player on this team. At safety.
There's just a bunch of dudes like Byu has good
enough talent to compete again in the in the Big Twelve.
Doesn't mean they're gonna win the Big Twelve. They shouldn't
be the favorite, but they should be in the top
three by the end of the season for sure, and
in the mix.
Speaker 2: No doubt about it. Jerem Jordan talking some Cougar football
here on your Utah e ESPN Radio Network I do
want to transition a little bit and talk about Cougar's
in the pros. How many draft picks will come out
of BYU do you think from this NFL group? And
how many high priority undrafted free agents are you expecting
to sign in and not just we're not talking mini caamp.
We're talking undrafted free agent deals where they're getting some payment,
they're getting some bonus structure, et cetera. What do you
make of it? What do you see?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm hoping that Jack Kelly is picked.
Speaker 8: I am hoping.
Speaker 5: I think you will be Chase Roberts kind of TVD right,
like he improved his forty into the five four five, Sorry,
five four would be terrible, four or fives would be awesome.
And then more Bob I helped himself a ton by
running a four to two or someone had time to
four one nine, and so man, that's crazy. So hopefully
those three guys are are either drafted. Jack Kelly should
be drafted period, although if it's too shoulder, is there
a little too much for teams to handle? I would
think that one team wants him for sure.
Speaker 4: Tanner Wall is.
Speaker 5: An intriguing prospect too. He had great numbers, and so
I think Tanner Wall is going to be in the mix.
I wonder if Phil Farron gets an opportunity and then
Isaiah got away to the law astome like he used
to have a chance to the next level, I think,
And then I think we talked about it recently. Karrisen
Grives put on a show like he could be the
next John Denny of like a long tenured.
Speaker 8: NFL guy if someone gives them a chance, because physically
that guy is in an incredible spot. And then you know,
you hope Jake Repsloffs one of these like journeyman third
string dudes that gets a chance who knows you know,
all the time, like the third straight quarterbacks on NFL
rosters always make me laugh. I'm like, why have we
never heard of these guys? It's always some remote random dude.
I'm like, why can't Jake Ripsloff be that guy who knows?
So yeah, I think there'll be.
Speaker 5: A handful of guys that can opportunity Carson Ryan. I
forgot to mention. I think Carson Ryan could be a
guy that is an undrafted free agent with an opportunity
where they go, oh, this guy, good hands, he can
block like he's super physically. He wants to be in
the fight. Here, got a great mustache, you know, looks
like Dave Grohl from the School Fighters, Like we need
this guy.
Speaker 8: So I think there's a handful of dudes.
Speaker 5: Is there kind of top end, high high talent for
YU in this particular draft? I would already know, because
you need like a Day one or two guy to
kind of argue that or at least multiple. But I
think there's a handful of dudes in a couple of
years will go Yeah. These three to five guys who
like had a three plus year NFL career.
Speaker 2: Love to break down Jerem Jordan, Ladies and gentlemen, talking
to Cougar Football, Cougar Basketball real quick. Where you at
with this off season the transfer portal? What is it
that BYU basketball is going to be looking for in
the portal? How much of the current roster that he's
not ultimately graduating going into the NBA professional ranks going
to be retained?
Speaker 5: I would think about half. That's kind of my guess
on what ends up happening, not only from a bou
wants them to stay, but maybe they want to move
on kind of standpoint. But yeah, I think UY will
do a good job of retaining certain pieces that they
can make fit and then go get in the portal.
Go get a big that can score. Go get a
couple of wings that can shoot the three. That's always important, obviously.
Kevin Young after the Texas game said, hey, shooters are
the holy grail. You need guys that can create for
you need to retain Robert's third. I think he's kind
of your anchor point, and then you build around him.
This is good LDS talent of the portal. I'd be
interested to see if Yu and these guys can't connect
and see if this works. And then obviously, you know,
let's make a run at this again. And you got
some real good talent coming in with a great signing class,
and I think people are gonna be excited again. There
won't be kind of final four talk, I don't think,
but it'll be like, Okay, you don't just make the tourney,
you win in a tourney, and hopefully if you can
get to the point where every couple of years they're
going to a Sweet sixteen. I think the talent's increased
to the point where we hopefully can get to that
point it was there this year injuries.
Speaker 2: Unfortunate that Jerem Jordan, Jerem. Best way to support you
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Speaker 5: Oh, just just be kind to one another. That's the
best way you can support. I appreciate the time, Ben,
you of the best. Keep up the good work, man,
and we'll we'll see you at the alumni game tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Question Mark, I'm going to be trying to make it
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Speaker 5: Heank you. Hopefully I'll see to them.
Speaker 2: Man, all right, much love to you and your family.
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