Speaker 1: All Star Toyota presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where.
Speaker 1: The plays get broken down, then science gets denied.
Speaker 2: I got to come off the Bench.
Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Mercedes
Benz So Baton Rouge Studio starts now.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in our number two oh TV
one oh four five ESPN Baton Rouge. Excited to catch
up with my guy who I'm going to catch up
with later for three hours today, but never enough time
with my guy, EJ Manuel, my Meathead Brethren, All Meathead
Team QB one. I got EJ Man and we came
up with the All Meathead Team in the phil Steel magazine.
Speaker 4: Very excited for that to release.
Speaker 3: And that's with EJ and the guest yesterday we had
mister Bobby Carpenter, So excited about that.
Speaker 4: Always a pleasure.
Speaker 5: E J.
Speaker 4: What's up, brother?
Speaker 5: What's up?
Speaker 6: Guys?
Speaker 5: Good morning?
Speaker 7: Has you You and I both know we always talk
in the afternoon, so this is a.
Speaker 5: Little different, you know, like my routines off.
Speaker 7: And I'm just kidding. I'm happy to be joining you guys.
And uh, first and foremost, I want to say what's
something Matt Flynn.
Speaker 5: Since we talked.
Speaker 7: I'm doing well, man, I'm doing well, Matt. A lot
has changed since the last time you and I, uh,
you know, shared the field together. I got a family,
I got a wife, I got kids, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, I'm good, Man, I'm great.
Speaker 8: I think the last time that we were in the
same room together, we were in probably some of the
greatest football meetings I've ever been led by the great
Nathaniel Hackett, which is that was like my first question
coming to you is like, look, we me and you
have shared some coaches. Some have left some scar tissue.
Nathaniel Hackett certainly was it one of them?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 8: Like he had like the most, the craziest, the funniest,
like the He's one of those guys every player love, right,
And I know he had his woes as a head
coach and tumultious like a couple of years whatever it is,
But I wanted to ask you about him, like from
all the coaches you had, and I know you're you
were with the Raiders and then a little bit with
the Chiefs, blah blah blah, kind of like me towards
the end a couple of couple of different teams, like
real quick there at the end. But when I look
back at my time, like, I think that Nathaniel Hackett
was probably the funniest and coolest coach.
Speaker 2: And I was like, man, I spent three weeks with him.
Speaker 8: I would I wanted to ask you about him and
about like the last couple of years in his career.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So Nate Hackett great person. I think the biggest
thing I would say about Nate is that he really
cared right as far as being offensive coordinator when you know,
he was with us in Buffalo, and he was kind
of the quasi quarterback coach too, because my first year
we didn't have one, if you remember Matt, and so
Nate was kind of, you know, hands on with me.
Speaker 5: As a rookie.
Speaker 7: And you know, going from Jimbo Fisher to Nathaniel Hackett
was different.
Speaker 5: You know, Jimbo was.
Speaker 7: Much more down your eyes crossing your t's and Nate
was kind of just let's just put some letters out
there and just have some fun, truthfully, and so at
one point it was it was free. It was fun,
but I did enjoy that structure that I had from Jimbo.
Speaker 5: I didn't.
Speaker 7: I did enjoy you know, at times, guys, when y'all
both been coached by I'm getting chewed out, you know,
if things weren't going right. And I looking back on it,
you know, I felt like that was kind of what
helped me be so locked in and be consistent and
you know, really hold myself to the highest standard. Now
as athletes, we always hold ourselves to a higher standard.
But that was just kind of the coaching style difference
between Nate and Jimbo.
Speaker 5: But you know, I look back on it too. Nate
was young, and you.
Speaker 7: Know, Matt, you know this as a QB when you
come into the league, man, it is nice to have
either a veteran head coach or veteran offensive coordinator, veteran
quarterback coach, or a veteran like yourself in the room
with you. And I didn't really get any of that,
and then not making excuses. You know, this is far,
you know, it's ten eleven to twelve years ago, but
I think, looking back on it, it would have been
nice to have you there, truthfully, bro, And I'm that
sincerely because I was trying to learn how to be
a pro, you know, and on a field, you go
out there, you make the throws, you go through reads.
That stuff is a part playing ball. But I think
the Monday through Saturday of being a pro and win
the show up and how to do a meeting with
the offensive line for protections, and how to talk to
your backs about hey, you need to pick this up,
those little small nuances. Nate didn't really know that stuff,
you know, because he.
Speaker 5: You know, he was a new offensive coordinator in the league,
and so I was kind of learning by fire a
little bit.
Speaker 7: But I got a lot of respect for Nick Hackett,
and I know he put in a lot of.
Speaker 5: Time and effort to help me grow as a young player.
Speaker 3: See, you got Jimbo too as a head coach, like
we got him for multiple years. Matt had him for four.
I had him for three as an offensive coordinator, and
I would have loved it every day.
Speaker 8: In the film, right, I assume since he was a
head coach, he wasn't with you like everything.
Speaker 5: He was with us every day.
Speaker 4: You ever left y'all side.
Speaker 5: No, No, he was always in the quarterback room.
Speaker 7: Look, Jimbo is who he is, man, And I'm sure
when he was the A and M maybe he started
to delegate a little bit because I know he had
another coach coming in and.
Speaker 5: Calling players this last year there.
Speaker 7: But you know, when I was at Florida State, and
really that was the expectation when he was recruiting me.
Speaker 5: I've told both of you this story.
Speaker 7: It was between Florida State and LSU, and so I
was a huge fan of you guys, saw your championship run.
And then Jimbo leaves and goes to Florida State and
then he starts recruiting at FSU, and so I really
wanted to play for him because I had a respect
for how he reared up his quarterbacks, like Matt Flynn,
like JaMarcus Wells, so like Rohan Davy, those kind of guys,
Matt Mock and so I wanted to play under that
type of tutelage.
Speaker 5: But then I saw the greatness of LSU.
Speaker 7: I saw the dopeness of the Death Valley and the
lights and the you know, the flair, and again, you
guys have just came up a championship. But yeah, Jimbo
spent a ton of time with us. I'd say ninety
nine point nine percent of the time he was in
the quarterback room as a head coach, of Florida State.
Speaker 3: Oh, baby, y'all had, did y'all have Coley? Was he
there with y'all as well?
Speaker 4: At Florist?
Speaker 5: They did? We did.
Speaker 7: We had James Coley who was our tight ends coach.
Technically Coley was the yoc.
Speaker 4: But Jimbo will let nobody else call anything.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And Damian Craig was also our quarterback coach, and
I believe he was with you guys at something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have both those guys. So that was that
was both of our gas. And what year would that
have been?
Speaker 2: Flying? Uh?
Speaker 7: Four? O?
Speaker 8: Foley was there four because he would run the scout
team with Jordan Rivers. So Coley was running scout team
when and I was playing a lot of scouts and
he was he had just got there and he would
just run around with the with the with the drawings,
the play what's.
Speaker 2: What's come on?
Speaker 5: You gotta get there and.
Speaker 4: Then he's had a whole of a career though.
Speaker 7: Oh I'm pretty sure he's still at Georgia if I'm
not mistaken.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's achievers coach there. But he's been the coordinator there,
He's been a coordinator at A and M. I mean
he's been some big places.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, well look James Coley again, great person first
and foremost, and great family, and uh he's done an
excellent job.
Speaker 5: And you know, he's a Miami guy.
Speaker 7: And so now that I live in South Florida, he
and I try to keep in touched whenever he's down here,
try to see him.
Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, I think back on those times.
Speaker 7: You know, when we're in eighteen nineteen twenty, it's still
kind of a kid, and so those.
Speaker 5: Guys were like extra dads or extra uncles, brothers, whatever
you want to call them.
Speaker 7: So that's how I was raised, you know, by Jimbo,
by James Coley, by Damian Craig.
Speaker 5: And I want to give D. Craig a ton of
love too.
Speaker 7: I believe he's at Georgia State, and uh man, I
can remember those off seasons where you couldn't really spend
time with the coaches and all that kind of stuff.
I would go to his office and he would, you know,
write up scripts for me to learn protections. Sometime I
really learn them, you know what I mean, because during
the season you don't really have that much time to really
hone in on certain things. And D Craig, I give
him a lot of credit for how he kind of
helped me, you know, beyond just throwing the ball and
all that kind of stuff, the actual smarts and intelligence
of playing the position.
Speaker 5: He helped me a ton, all.
Speaker 3: Right, DJ, So I wanted to have you on today
to kind of talk quarterbacks in this upcoming year because
you and I talk about it every single day. We'll
probably talk about it again later this afternoon. This is
a special year, feels like for quarterbacks, and we know
the guy that's here and Garrett Nesmeyer very excited to
see what he does in your number two. But I
wouldn't have you on to talk a little Kate club Nick.
That's who LSU plays in the opening week. You and
I have talked about that game so much already. We
went and linked, you know with the last two days.
I think over on off campus for LSU fans that
don't maybe know who Kay Clubnick is. Who is he
and how have you seen him grow and develop at Clemson.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's a four year starter for one, and you know,
I know he didn't start the full first year as
a freshman, but he played a bunch because DJ younger
lay was getting subbed out. But I think you have
a player in Kate Clubnick who has gone through the fire.
And what I mean by that is he came in
with the expectation of being the next Trevor Lawrence, so
the next Deshaun Watson. And all he's done is won
two ACC championships last year taking his team to the CFP,
And I really felt like he's grown every week, not
even just year to year. Like covering the ACC network,
I've seen kid grow as a person newly and stature
because when he got that Clemson he was kind of
a lean kid, kind of skinny truthfully, not a big guy.
So he's obviously put you know, a lot of weight
on because now he's maturre he's about probably twenty one,
twenty two years old Roman. But also his timing, his
patience in the pocket, his knowing when to take off
and run and when to sit back there and allow
receiver to kind of do his thing at the top
of a route and come open. So look, I know
that's at the Clemson version of Death Valley. But I'll
tell you what for the LSU fans that don't know
about this guy, man, this dude is tough as hell.
Speaker 5: Like he is tough, he can run, He'll put a
shoulder down and.
Speaker 7: He'll try to run through some guys, which I wouldn't
have buy as Kate, But he's that kind of competitor.
And I think you're really going to see two quarterbacks
in that game that are probably be top five picks.
But kay club that could certainly be the number one
overall pick if he has a season.
Speaker 5: I'm expecting him to.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 8: I want to actually like take a take a step
back and look at this past draft. I want to
talk a little bit about camp Ward. Yeah, going to
Tennessee number one draft pick. I mean you have this
experience about being a first round pick and going to
a spot that that you know is a place that
needs a little help, right, and you need some help.
Kim Ward gives us play. He is had such great stats,
great college career. How do you think he translates to
Tennessee specifically not just the NFL, but in the position
that he's going to be with the supporting staff around him,
a team that has really struggled. I mean, they just
had a first rounder a couple of years ago that
is not who they wanted it to be. Whether that's
his fault, through the organization's fault. But how do you
see that transition.
Speaker 7: I see the transition smooth for cam Ward. And there's
two big reasons. One is the head coach is Brian Callahan,
and CALLI was my quarterback coach my last year in Oakland.
And I say that because of the personality fit between
Brian Callahan and cam Ward.
Speaker 5: And we all know as a quarterback.
Speaker 7: Especially when you get drafted and then when you get
drafted high, you're like best friends.
Speaker 5: You guys are kind of like tied by the hip.
Speaker 7: You know, you use the head coach or the coordinator
and that QB and so I know that's going to
mess well. And I even told him this because I
covered his pro day and I saw Callahan kind of
following him everywhere he went. Like I'm talking about CALLI
was probably five to ten feet radius wise from cam
Ward the entire day. And I told cam I said, look,
if you end up going to Tennessee, that guy is
going to help you. That guy's going to spend a
ton of time and make sure you have success. And
I think that's so important when you, as a head coach,
have a vested interest to have success for your young quarterbacks.
Sometimes guys especially they didn't play the position, you know,
they don't really get it right. And no disrespect to
guys who didn't play that position, but they don't really
understand the nuances of being won a rookie and the
expectation of a number one overall pick. And the second part,
cam Ward has an infectious mentality in the sense in
Hester and I talked to him before the draft, and
I think Hester as me dead as he is. You know,
he was like, well, damn, I'll run through brick waff
of this kind of guy. Because he even mentioned like
a find pressure of defenses. That's just how he is.
That's in his DNA. And if people look at the
track of cam Ward, zero star coming out of high school,
didn't recruited by anybody, wing t offense in high school,
so didn't really get the opportunities. But incarnate word Washington State, Miami,
truly a guy who got it out the mud, you
like to say. And I think the fact that he's
kind of been zero and now he's the number one guy,
he's not going to be you know, in a situation
where he's like, ah, yeah, I've arrived and this is
done and I don't have to do any more work
and all this kind of stuff. He's going to bust
his tail to be successful. So I don't know if
they won a super Bowl in the next four years
in this Rockey contract, but I do know he's going
to have a successful start to his career and it's
going to be.
Speaker 2: A long yeah.
Speaker 5: Ag.
Speaker 8: I'm looking at their quarterback room right now, cam Ward
will leve Us, Brandon Allen, Tim Boyle. So you kind
of brought it up earlier with your past experience about
you wanted and throughout like you wished for that veteran presence.
Speaker 2: Now you have.
Speaker 8: They have it a little bit more in their coach
than you did in your situation. But you know, all things.
Things happen in training camps. Maybe something happens in the
Browns organization and Flacco becomes available. Would you be a
proponent for for cam Warden, maybe even will Levis too,
for the for the that same breath to bring in.
Speaker 5: I do want to mention. I do want to mention.
Speaker 7: So I played golf Brandon Island their quarterback, because you
can crush a golf ball here, my god, bro, dude,
crush golf ball. But you know what if Joe Flacco
became available, I think, Flinn, you know this, man, like
you got to have the conversation with the veteran right,
Like you got to know, hey, look your role is
to come in here and teach these young guys to
be a professional. And I believe I saw a clip
of Joe Flacco basically saying, look, because I know they
brought into der Sanders and can you pick it? And
DLN Gabriel, Look, I'm coming here to compete. I want
to play, And so I think that would be the
main conversation.
Speaker 5: And I told Cam this this too.
Speaker 7: I said, look, man, when you get there, you're never
want overall pick, don't go in there shot like you
got to speak up and you ask and tell them
what you want. And you know, as a quarterback in
the league, I didn't even realize I had that kind
of power. Like again, I wish I could have went
to the GMUG WLL and said, now I keep Matt
Flinn here.
Speaker 5: With us, you know, And I'm sure Flinn you probably wanted
to go and play somewhere else.
Speaker 7: I think he went back to Seattle or Green Bay actually,
But you know, I wish I had took the range
from my career and said, look, I need some type
of veteran leadership, even if he's not playing. I need
to be able to see and be critiqued by somebody
who's done it, not just the coach, but somebody's actually.
Speaker 5: Been in that pocket and been in that fire man.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean Joe Flapper would be good, but
I think the conversation before he joined that team needs
to be Hey, you're coming in to teach and be
almost like a player's coach, not just somebody that's gonna
take this guy's job, because he's our guy.
Speaker 5: He's the number one pick.
Speaker 2: Ej.
Speaker 3: Another quarterback that I wanted to ask you about because
obviously we're on here in Louisiana, so we talk a
lot of New Orleans Saints. Tyler Shuck somebody that you
watched a lot in the acc there at Louisville. He
is somebody the Saints selected at forty. Now he's going
to be in a battle with Spencer Rattler, but he
like in the off season, he has won the fans over,
like he's saying all the right things on all the podcasts,
talking about the city of New Orleans and the food
and everything. But what about once he gets between the lines.
How do you feel about Tyler Shuck trying to go
win the Saints starting quarterback job.
Speaker 7: Yes, well, I look, I want to give Spencer ratlersh
some love too, because we got a chance to talk
to him at the Super Bowl and I was a fan,
Like I kind of seen him from the youth, I
think the Netflix show and obviously his tenure in college,
and I got a lot of respect for him, and
I think he's gonna do a good job. But Tyler
Shuck strong arm, older, so obviously more matured, but obviously
not matured in the sense of playing on the field
in the NFL level. Look, I expect if he does
get a chance to play Brandon, it's going to be
a learning curve like it is for all of us
young qbs. But I think again, he's a big guy.
He's more athletic and agile than I think he gets
credit for. And that's kind of what you have to
have as a young quarterback in the league because you're
going to get, you know, caught with your pants down
at times. They're going to bring a blitz that you
have not seen before, or your right tackle was going
to get whooped by one of these all star defensive ends.
You're gonna have to make a play athletically to get
yourself in a position to make a throw, and he
can do all those things. And so, uh, you know,
I told you my neighbor is Devon Godchild and actually
Jarvis Landry they both literally live next door.
Speaker 5: But I talked to him.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you would have made the right choice,
you would have been the trio that all the time.
Speaker 5: I know, man, I know, I know.
Speaker 7: I still got love for my Florida State people treating
me great like family. But I always ask DG how
he's doing, and uh, you know, devonn was like, look,
the young boy could play, and so you got to
de tackle talking like that, and a guy who's been
in the league nine ten years then obviously he's earning
the respect of his team. So I don't know if
he'll start. And I'm pretty sure Keller Moore, who I
know very well, is probably not gonna rush, you know,
Tyler shuck situation. But if he's the best quarterback coming
out of camp, you gotta roll with him.
Speaker 2: All right, quick question, we'll put you on the spot
here a little bit.
Speaker 8: Come on, give me your opinion on the touch push.
Speaker 5: I love it, man.
Speaker 2: It now.
Speaker 7: Yeah, look like for for the league to try to
outlaw a damn play, Like are we getting that petty
to the point where like God just line up and
stop it with who's to say, like what kind of
rule change potentially?
Speaker 5: I know they even change the rule. But yeah, I
love the touch push.
Speaker 7: And I was a guy who was you know, two
forty two thirty five playing, and so I was a
quarterback sneak guru.
Speaker 5: So anytime Hester and one of them.
Speaker 7: Guys fell on like the two of your one yard line,
we already knew what time it was that. I'm not
even looking at Jimbo. I'm calling the players quarterback sneak.
Speaker 4: I'm getting a touchdown, touchdown vulture.
Speaker 3: EJ Man right there, just taking the fullback dive away
from you there, EJ.
Speaker 4: You're the man.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you hopping on with us this morning. I'll
talk to you in like five six.
Speaker 5: Hours, about six hours, yep.
Speaker 4: Appreciate you as well, all right.
Speaker 3: As my co host in the afternoons over on off
campus college sports radio series XM Channel eighty four checks
out there from two to five Central time. A lot
of fun there with us, so good with EJ. Man,
he he really loved LSU, really loved it when he
was getting recruited and he look, he's got love for
his school of Florida State.
Speaker 4: He said it there.
Speaker 3: But all the time, whenever we're talking we bring up LSU,
my guy lights up a little bit. Can you imagine
if EJ would have been the quarterback on twenty eleven LSU.
Speaker 8: So, let's see his freshman year at four, the state
was nine eight. I think it was because he said
he was getting recruited by Jim Bo at LSU.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So senior year, yeah, that team would have been having
a first might have crossed the fifty.
Speaker 2: Maybe we're still getting stopped. Oh man. Yeah.
Speaker 8: So I was signed in Buffalo after thankfully, thankfully getting
released by the Raiders.
Speaker 2: So I'm a Buffalo.
Speaker 4: You get released by Oakland, You're.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, fi GM.
Speaker 2: Picking up my wife, spinning around in the circle. Let's go.
Speaker 8: I was there for three weeks, buddy, because EJ was
hurt at the time those meeting.
Speaker 3: That's why, like I said, like QB one on the
meatthead team, because e J he was one of those
guys that didn't really have respect for his body, like
in a good way like and that's why he was
joking about.
Speaker 4: I forgot what quarterback he was talking about. Kate Club.
He's like, yeah, just slide, buddy, or get out of
the way. It's like I did.
Speaker 3: He had like six knee surgeries, like two shoulder surgeries.
Speaker 8: He laughed too, and I said, yeah, we both got
the same scar tissue from old coaches. Yeah, he knew
what was talking about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: It is funny to hear him kind of talk about
not having a vet too. And so as soon as
he said that, I started thinking about the Saints, because
you've got a new head coach, You've got an incredibly
young quarterback room.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Neus Meyer has has certainly been through the fire as
far as a coach, and so at least you have
a coordinator quarterback coach that has been in the league
for you know, around college football NFL for a long time.
Speaker 8: Well, they're better set up at the Saints right now
because of you know, the at least their head coach,
their quarterback coach played.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 8: They weren't like long term starters or anything, but they
played in the league and has been in the league
when he went the Hackett wasn't a player, right, the
head coach was a you know, it's kind of it
was kind of like or less like he was more focused.
Speaker 2: On the offensive line. Yeah, so like he was all alone.
Speaker 3: Like from the experience standpoint, I think I think you
said the other two quarterbacks for like young quarterbacks that were.
Speaker 2: In Jeff Tool and Thad Lewis.
Speaker 4: I believe Jeff Tool and Thad Lewis.
Speaker 2: Yep, I'll put on a Bill's uniform one time.
Speaker 3: I was actually I got a big head and a
big brain. Sometimes I have no idea who those two
human beings are.
Speaker 2: That's shocking because you know literally everybody that's up.
Speaker 3: I think I think Thad Lewis is on the Browns Jersey,
the famous Browns Jersey.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure he is.
Speaker 2: Jeff Tool.
Speaker 4: Where the hell is Jeff Tool from?
Speaker 8: I don't know, but my I always get emails saying like,
Jeff Tool wants to connect on LinkedIn.
Speaker 2: I got it the other day.
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, if that tells you about Jeff
Toole shout out. Sorry dragging the money here. Probably was,
But if he's sitting up on LinkedIn, that tells you what.
Speaker 8: His pro career. So I got there and Thad Lewis
was started. The first game I was there, I wasn't
dressed out. I had just got there like the day before.
And the next week I'm dressed out because that Lewis
got hurt and Jeff Toole started and we're playing the
Bengals like Zimmer double.
Speaker 2: A goat much fun. Yeah, I think we we either.
Speaker 8: Beat them or got damn close to it because like
a Hackett had like nine plays going into the game.
It was one through nine and we and it was
just fast and they couldn't get in their double A
gaps because we were going so fast.
Speaker 3: Because he's like, I mean, if he wasn't the inventor
of it, which I think he was, he was, he mastered.
Speaker 2: Yeah he might not have invented it, but he perfected it.
Speaker 3: They had a couple of jerk They had a couple
of linebackers there, Ma Luga from USC.
Speaker 4: I remember that name, Yeah, ray Malinlug.
Speaker 3: I got another guy that had no, no respect for
his body, and again in a good way.
Speaker 4: He was just like I'm gonna do whatever.
Speaker 2: Cincinnati, yep.
Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying he was in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: If you play against them, Yeah, it's just like they
got some psycho guys up here.
Speaker 4: They're gonna run these double A mugs.
Speaker 2: They don't have to respect for their body.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And he had one guy, Keith Rivers from usc that
couldn't buy in to what he needed mentality wise.
Speaker 4: Like the guy looked like Tarzan.
Speaker 3: I mean, he was put together, but like he didn't
last as long in the defense because he wanted him
to be reckless and he wasn't that style of player.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, they want you to, like.
Speaker 8: A hawk, finish their I don't know if he fished
with the Falcons, but he was with the Bengals.
Speaker 4: For Falcons.
Speaker 3: They wanted you to like last three years and they
get a new U in three more years. Basically, coach
what wants what he wants. All right, we are going
to step away. Enjoyed that conversation. Appreciate my guy hopping
on with us. We'll be back more OTB yetes Thursday.
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You're listening to Off the Bench the.
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She said you said that like you don't know this song,
then I mean I've heard it.
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Speaker 8: It's not on the commonly played playlist is mine?
Speaker 4: I heard this on saxophone yesterday. I shared it to
the world. We're welcome.
Speaker 3: You heard this on saxophone. Yeah, there was somebody that
this specific song. He takes R and B songs Just Henny, Jesus.
Speaker 2: I'll get to see your timeline.
Speaker 3: It is R and B music, it's dance videos. It's
now card breaks, obscure sports back not really. My feet
is full of card breaks right now.
Speaker 2: We did.
Speaker 6: Sorry, I was gonna say, we've did. We've done this before,
but it wasn't when you were here. Pull up your
phone and what's the first reel that comes up on
your phone?
Speaker 3: Somebody like you get a popular page or whatever they
can like because you can do your reels.
Speaker 6: So like the little button, I guess what you say,
it's the first reel that pops up for you. Mine's
a l s U in Omaha reel.
Speaker 10: Mine is a Washington Nationals reel, which is odd months.
Speaker 3: All right, mine's Mine's a NBA mock draft. It must
have been. It had to hear us talking, because when
I talked about it earlier in the show, that's the
first time I've said NBA mock draft in a year.
Speaker 2: I popped up and said, our sports cards a Ponzi scheme.
Speaker 6: These feel very on brand.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: I think Lacy put that in there.
Speaker 2: She might have put that in there. We can dive
into that later.
Speaker 4: About you.
Speaker 2: You had a big hit.
Speaker 4: You had a big hit last night, y'all ever.
Speaker 8: Heard there's this quarterback that plays in the National Football
League some people call it the NFL.
Speaker 2: His name is Jayden Daniels. Anybody ever heard of him?
A few times?
Speaker 8: A few times? Yeah, yeah, I had a big one. Uh,
little Jayden Daniels Downtown. For those sports nerds out there
like myself, you know what that means.
Speaker 6: Yeh.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: If you're you're part of the Optic and you're trying
to hit a big card, downtown in and uptown is
the biggest that you're going to find in those boxes.
And the biggest of all the downtown's and uptowns is
a Jaden Daniels downtown.
Speaker 4: Oh when accidentally did it?
Speaker 2: Accidentally checked this out? Got that I brought this one
in today? Check this out?
Speaker 8: This is a uh this was called an uptown here
little guy by the name of Roger stallback Taylor's guy.
Speaker 4: It's the only Cowboys quarterback that Taylor likes.
Speaker 2: Is So there's two.
Speaker 4: There's two. We got to he hates Dack and he
hates Tony.
Speaker 2: If I pull a Quincy Carter, I'm gonna let you know.
Speaker 3: Quincy Carter, the legend Shreveport Bosier City battle Wings.
Speaker 2: What's doing now? Let's get him on.
Speaker 4: But he played for the battle Wings.
Speaker 2: Let's get them on the show. We'll catch up.
Speaker 4: Might not be hard. William says Flynn. I hate you.
How many did you rip before pulling that Jaden couple?
Speaker 8: First card ever couple We've we've ripped a couple You've
had some good.
Speaker 3: Luck with with Jayden with Caleb Williams, like you got
you have some quarterback luck?
Speaker 8: Yep, yeah, I've had some quarterback luck. I'm sitting here,
I gotta just pulled this one.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 8: This is a Caleb Williams out of one, twenty five
rated rookie right here, Kolliams.
Speaker 3: I know like I am, so I'm loyal to a fault,
like Caleb Williams didn't do anything to me, didn't do
anything to l the shoe, right, but because he went
before Jayden, And I'm always gonna be on team Jayden.
Like I'll get a Caleb card and like immediately like
we're selling this puppy, get it out of here, don't
want it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Now, but how long do you hold onto that? Because
and I think I think Jayden has righted.
Speaker 2: That wrong already.
Speaker 4: He has. I didn't say we'll.
Speaker 2: Continue to right that wrong. You're right, but I will
say every time.
Speaker 8: I don't know how he got fed this uh information,
but every time we do pull my son, if he
sees a Russell Wilson, he rips it up.
Speaker 4: It's my boy, it's my boy, huck, my boy.
Speaker 2: I didn't grow him with hate his heart, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well.
Speaker 2: He does it as a joke. Now, No, he's just
like he's like dad ha.
Speaker 3: Ha ha, Yeah, I like it. I'm with you, Hucked
bud uh. Before we take a break, y'all, Look, big
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Speaker 11: Com before away, because you told my first place thing.
Speaker 1: He was like from players to legends, Hester and Flynn
breakdown l s U Football like only champions can.
Speaker 9: Hard thing plead there was a way that I happen
to you understand hebby house with every wind.
Speaker 4: Now can everyone are you know this? Okay?
Speaker 8: I'm feeling it. This gives me goodvies. I was kind
of tired up until this point. Right now I'm back.
Speaker 4: I mean, it is R and B Thursday.
Speaker 2: If you were just staring at the bottom of your cup.
Speaker 4: I was like, please there, let there be something in there.
I drink it all. I'm just trying to let you
get to Chris Brown part.
Speaker 6: But what did we say about saying that we're tired?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't talk about it.
Speaker 2: Well, I said that.
Speaker 8: I was just setting up the fact that I'm energizing.
Speaker 6: Okay, what about was the one that really started the
I need energy?
Speaker 4: Yes, he got his hand speaking of his chin.
Speaker 2: Speaking of.
Speaker 10: How about me taking crap from every one of you
for being the only one not going to the celebration.
I just found out that's the only one in the
room that went, Yeah, I didn't you didn't go.
Speaker 4: I said it at the beginning of the show.
Speaker 10: I watched, Uh, I thought like I thought of two
and two the no I ended I'm.
Speaker 6: Not going because it was five thirty and I was like.
Speaker 4: Eight o'clock feels I'll apologize.
Speaker 3: But when they said eight o'clock, yeah exactly, I ain't
doing that.
Speaker 6: I like left my house at five thirty and my
thighs were like sticking to the car seat because I
was so damn sweaty that I was like, I am
not going to go sit out there.
Speaker 2: Madra even got a credential, didn't you.
Speaker 5: I did?
Speaker 2: Yeah, nicey, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4: There's enough people supporting lsuit.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we were waffling a little bit.
Speaker 4: I went all the way to Omaha.
Speaker 2: I think it's I don't.
Speaker 10: Think the crowd was sparse because of this room didn't
show up.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, we were waffling a little bit. We were at
the house. Man, it was pretty comfortable here. It's pretty
hot out there. We didn't really know what to expect
it to be, like people be packed in the outfield
bleachers what it was. But then you know, lucky, luckily enough,
we had some seats in the L club sections. So
we were like, all right, let's just do this, and
we're glad we did. Our kids had a fantastic time.
Like my son in the car on the way home,
he's like, that was one of the top days of
my life.
Speaker 6: That's what I was gonna say earlier, is that when
you were talking about your kids being super excited about
getting the autographs and stuff like that. I was like,
they're going to be talking about that the way that
we talk about memories as kids, and.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me tell you.
Speaker 8: Like, so they huckering around, and then my little girls
kind of like ran on the field. They ran from
like first base to second base. We're loving it, like
playing in the dirt and stuff. And then my son
was running around with a buddy of his and you
know kind of he had those cars. I told you
I had a ball. I get getting a couple of
autographs here and there.
Speaker 2: And man, the boys on the l s U team,
they weren't the sweetest days. Man, they were awesome. They
were great.
Speaker 8: I mean they're sitting there and enjoying their celebration and
they I'll be I'll be darned if they didn't sit
there and talk to him and say, how you doing, buddy,
And it was great.
Speaker 2: Great.
Speaker 3: I'm glad y'all had that. Man, that's fun. It's a
lot of fun. We yeah, we talked about going, but
the eight PM with the kiddos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, stuff, it's tough. It was tough. It was hot
to like I said, not a breath of air out.
Speaker 4: There heading to O and all right, let's get to
a little big deal, no big deal, big deal. Every
we did this when you were here.
Speaker 2: Before, I forgot big deal.
Speaker 4: You changed the name of this segment.
Speaker 5: A big deal.
Speaker 6: What did you change the name to?
Speaker 2: It was a big deal or no deal?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he's like, well, it's got to be no
big deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, big deal or no big deal.
Speaker 4: The NBA Draft happened last night, MBD.
Speaker 3: For this crew, I mean, they try to make it
so big, and I'm not hating on him for that,
but like the NFL Draft, it's just it's its own
theme and there's hundreds of thousands of people over the
you know, the course of three days that go to
whatever site that it's at at, and it's this big
stage and it's this big production, and like you just
you know, so many of the names, even in the fifth,
sixth round.
Speaker 4: Queen Yours was a seventh round pick.
Speaker 3: He was in back to back college football playoffs as
a quarterback at Texas. In the NBA draft, it's like,
after the first like seven picks, if you don't do
a deep dive into college basketball, it's like, I don't
know who that human is, right, And the only reason
I knew most of them is because I have.
Speaker 4: To talk about them all there.
Speaker 3: It's just it doesn't have the punch that the NFL
draft has.
Speaker 2: It does. If you love love.
Speaker 3: NBA, I mean you got to like, look, it has
to be like the show that's on.
Speaker 8: Before our show from six to seven, Like they talk
every time it turned out their NBA and be like
heavy they love it. So that's a big deal, man.
But like for this room and me specifically, it is
not at all a big deal. Sorry, I it's just me.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Like I've I've found NBA more than a lot
of people, and like I'm sitting down watching it last night,
I had forgotten that the second round was actually tonight.
I thought it was just all in one night. I'm like, oh,
when the hell did they change that?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: And well and then a lot of times today's I
still didn't know. I just found that out was breaking
news to me.
Speaker 10: Yeah, the second round is actually tonight.
Speaker 4: I thought that they did all these hean.
Speaker 10: Players that are drafted now, like you can see the
guys on the desk or whatever, like they're trying to
give you like, oh, this guy played in Turkey whatever.
They don't know half the guys like like, I'm looking
right now. Somebody put out a list that they did,
like a big board of like the top fifteen available players.
I know three of them, four out of the top ten,
well one once Jenni Broom from Alburn and.
Speaker 4: Tyree Sproctor from Duke.
Speaker 10: Like, yeah, there's a big time programs outside of those
two guys. That's pretty much like them.
Speaker 8: Someone of the chat earlier said, you need to you
really need to pick up your game on the on
your basketball and NBA knowledge.
Speaker 2: I might bud, I just learn baseball.
Speaker 4: Let's baby baby steps, all.
Speaker 3: Right, baby baby at a time, we'll get there, all right, Flann,
what you got?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: All right? Got one? I did keep forget about the segment?
Shoot all right? Big deal, no big deal. After l
s U was chasing O Bentley and he committed Oklahoma.
Speaker 8: Comes out on Monday that L s U offered four
star Bryson Beaver from California and then on Tuesday he
commits to Oregon.
Speaker 3: Big deal, it's a huge deal. His last name is
Beaver and he goes to Oregon. Yes, their rival is
the Beavers.
Speaker 2: That is so fair, Like if he played.
Speaker 3: His huge deal, everyone could have gone to Oregon State
played his inn il cards all of it and it
said beaver on front and beaver on back double actually
beams and.
Speaker 10: Yeah you could have beaves on the back too if
you want to play it up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe a big deal.
Speaker 10: Not a big deal for LSU though, Like you and
I were talking about this a little bit before the show.
They wanted Bo Bentley bad. I wanted Bo Bentley to
come here. We had talked about him two months ago.
He's a guy that i've I've followed for a while.
Now you lose him to Oklahoma on Friday. You don't
even offer this kid till Monday. He's taking his visit
to Oregon Tuesday. Like it was pretty much already a
lost calls like they were kind of swinging for the
fences on this one. You can only just get a
quarterback out of the portal nowadays too.
Speaker 3: You'll you're heavy, heavy into the twenty seven class. Yes,
like you got like five top targets that your full
court press on in the twenty seven plans.
Speaker 2: We have van Buren next year.
Speaker 10: Even if you keep colin early, you can go get
get a backup out of the portal. Top kids in
twenty seven like, you're fine.
Speaker 8: I know we kind of hammered the like the recruiting
visits and stuff. A couple of weeks ago, I was
looking at this price of Beaver. I was looking him
up after you had said it, and he tweeted out
on Monday, I got this offer and then capital letters
Gaux Tigers and.
Speaker 2: Then they like I just.
Speaker 8: The tweets and everything that they get it like thank
you for doing this, but he says, go Tigers, e
A u X all Caps, stolen valor Beaver and then
the next eight I know it's weird.
Speaker 4: I know it's not weird. Blessed to receive an offer.
Speaker 8: From high five am.
Speaker 6: I don't know, because okay, so why do you think
that they're not coming to LSU because we already have
depth there or do you think they just like don't
want to come to LSU like bever ain't coming.
Speaker 3: Well, I also think that you see, you know, LSU
has a young quarterback and Baber and that started almost
a full season in the SEC who's still very young.
And then I think you also see the twenty seven
class and that's an elite quarterback class, and you know
LSU is going to get one of the five that
they're after, and yeah, you run away from competition a
little bit, honestly, I think.
Speaker 8: So at this day and age, I got I know,
everybody always wants to take a quarterback every class, every class,
stacking quarterbacks. But and I'm sure us you will do
that and still wants to do that. But you know,
maybe it's a lot of times, maybe it's if your
top guy falls out. Maybe at that point it's just
to get another arm in there. Maybe a guy pans out,
maybe he doesn't. But in this day and age in
college football, there's absolutely zero panic mode from these college
coaches because you're LSU.
Speaker 2: You've had two heismans in the last six years. Like
you can get a guy, yeah you've had.
Speaker 4: And this guy might be another one.
Speaker 8: You could get a guy that's probably started two years
in college football already after that whenever you need it. So,
I mean, of course you want to stack it and
you want to have the numbers, and you would love
for a guy to go the route of Garrett neus
Meyer and graduate where he signed out of high school. Well,
I'm talking about Garrett netsmeyer'm.
Speaker 4: Talking about you, and I'm talking about this break.
Speaker 3: We'll continue big zough, no big deal to end hour
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Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves, off the bench
with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 3: Are you going to continue a little big deal of
no big deal to wrap up our number two?
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Speaker 4: Yes?
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Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 2: So he was.
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put out some Instagram videos that he was on his
way to Austin, Texas, and he was threatening Joe Rogan
in these videos and he was like, hey, you're a
black belt in jiu jitsu, Like I don't care, I
don't know any jiu jitsu, but like I'll whoop you
kind of. They like, that's not verbatim what he said,
right words in there, right big deal are no big deal?
The Liver King getting arrested in Texas.
Speaker 4: Uh, we're trying to kill Joe Rogan the big.
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Joe Rogan goes an actual trained fighter. You're just on
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Speaker 8: He would eat all these weird all he was eating
liver king it was like meat and of course like
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Speaker 2: But then it came out he failed a drug, had
all these steroids.
Speaker 5: In his body.
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, okay, I bet his punches are
slower than Adrian Peterson's in that video we played last week.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say it's a big deal because, yeah, he
should be arrested. There's a lot of like keyboard badasses
out there that just make threats and like, yeah, yeah,
if someone's threatening you, no matter where it is, it's
on a computer, it's on radio, it's on a Instagram,
whatever it is. Yeah, rest of their.
Speaker 4: As Yeah, especially actually want to see him and Joe flight.
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Speaker 8: Like Joe Rogan, he's been He's been in my life
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