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Speaker 1: I want to welcome everyone to Pony Express Radio number

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fifty nine, speaking yours filling in for red Hawk. Red

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Hawk is in the basement with Doug right now, so

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we don't know if he's going to be let out.

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Maybe and yeah, so say hello to say alor to

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our guests, our past I'll hear Charlo Mayne. How you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I just finished my delicious ice cream sandwich snack.

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Oh man, Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Paul Fahrenheit, how you doing?

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Speaker 4: A lot less happier than I was when I started

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the day, given that the demographic makeup of trick or

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treaters has a depressed me immensely.

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Speaker 1: Gibbs, Gibbs, Gibbs, it's a Gibbs Day. And our special guest,

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somebody who has been gracious enough to have me on

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his show a couple of times. He had dark and

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lightment on. He's pushing the envelope. Michael Ferris, How you doing, Michael?

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Speaker 5: I'm good man. I'm just waiting for the election next week.

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It's just gonna, you know, solve all my problems and

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I can go back to the couch and everything will

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be utopia again.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Boomer, so down sorry, all right, So I guess

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the first thing we should talk about is that a

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Nazi rally was held at Madison Square Garden this past

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weekend that had ripples across the the punditry world, especially

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when it comes to garbage. So do we have any

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how iconic is this right now? I mean, well, first

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of all, you had him, he's doing this all the time.

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Now he's he goes to McDonald's, he does the Norman

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Rockwell thing, and here he is being garbage Maine. What

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what did y'all think when you saw this?

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Speaker 4: Well, last week I went on a long diatribe about

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the kings of France and how they were educated, and

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I mean, you know, this really is you know the

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Donald Donald Trump is firmly stepping into the executive role

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that in all honesty, it's you know, if he wasn't

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born for it, he's absolutely being formed for it. And

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he recognizes that what the United States needs now more

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than ever is someone who is so completely in so

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completely secure, so completely in control of things, so firm

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of a hand, so paternalistic, et cetera, et cetera, that

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you know, you can go off and be a garbage

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truck driver. Even for a photo op and have it

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leave no discernible mark, like literally almost like like like

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like his clothes are clean, but you know, have it

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leave no discernible mark on him. But at the same time,

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he gets the glory for doing it, you know. So

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that's really I do think that this is this is

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you know, for the short term stability of the country.

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This will be absolutely absolutely vital. But you know, as

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has been said it, you know it will not it

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will not address the underlying issues that will be here

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after he is gone.

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Speaker 1: I think the best thing I heard was the story

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behind this, because obviously, if he's in the garbage truck,

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him putting on this vest makes a lot of sense.

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But then he went and spoke and he's still wearing

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the vest, and the story goes and he was telling

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he was saying it in a self deprecating way that

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we haven't heard in like twenty sixteen or twenty twenty.

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He's like, ah, I'm not going to wear that up there,

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give me my blue jacket. And they're like, sir, we

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think it makes you look at thinner. He's like, oh, okay, okay,

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put it on. Put it on. I'll go up there

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with this, I'll go up there with this.

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Speaker 4: That's so classically Trump. It's it's he's he's kind of

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what is it. It's like it's like faux faux vanity.

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He's like making fun of himself. But at the same

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time everyone knows that that's probably not how it went.

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Speaker 2: He also Trump went. He does these photo ops. He's

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never sort of LARPing as like a lower class person

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or something. He's always he's always Trump. He's Trump in

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the costume of a garbage man. He's Trump at McDonald's,

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but he still has the tie on. He's completely unblemish.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's not like some of these other politicians when they

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go out in campaign and they don't usually even as

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go as far as he's doing, but they sort of

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pretend to be, you know, one of the middle class

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or lower class, like and they they try and fake it.

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But Trump, the reason these things work for Trump is

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because he doesn't pretend to like not be Trump, not

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be part of the elite upper class. He is just

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donning the garb, but there's no real pretense about it.

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that's why it actually appeals to people, because he's not.

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it's sort of patronizing to have someone like Trump like

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actually pretend to be like just like you. I think

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that's what a lot of a lot of people on

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the left who vote Democrat have just fundamentally missed this

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about Trump. Like nobody who votes for Trump is under

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the illusion that Trump is not an elite or or

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that they think he like really is like like someone

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who who can do who does a garbage truck thing,

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and who can like serve fries and it's like totally

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comfortable with doing that. I mean, that's that those are

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like bits that he does, and it's it's endearing because

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there's there's no there's no pretense about it in terms of,

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you know, he's just he's just playing it straight. And

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I think I think a lot of leftists because they

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operate much more on thisotional level in terms of having

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to like be they have main character syndrome much more often,

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and they need to really feel like the other the

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politician representing them is like just like them in some capacity,

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and nobody thinks Trump is like them even when he's

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doing these things. And I think I think the journalists

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and leftists in general just fundamentally don't get this the

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way the right perceives it's star politicians, which at this

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point are basically like just Trump and arguably JD. Vans,

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them in some way.

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Speaker 1: He's coming across as like the perfect kind of patrician.

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He reminds me of the like if you work construction

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and the CEO shows up to the job site, and

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if he's a really nice guy and everybody loves him,

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you don't mind that the helmet is brand new and

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doesn't have a scratch on it. You don't You don't

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think he's LARPing. You think he's there to just let

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you know, Hey, I think you're doing a really good

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you know, doing a really good job. Love you guys.

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And it's just a it's it's way more paternal or patrician,

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nobless oblige. I mean, you can use it, you can

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use a ton of terms for basically how he's coming

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off to the American people. And I think that's why

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a lot more people are coming in his direction. Now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a natural hierarchy present in Trump and the

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way he does things that's not in Democrat politicians because

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you know, their their side is like fundamentally leveling, and

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you know, for the CEO to come to the job

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side or whatever, like, there's an expectation that this this

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class barrier is broken. But it's it's preferable for someone

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in a more patrician role to perform their duties as

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they're supposed to and respectfully in relation to you performing

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your duties at a lower level like. It's it's there's

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nothing wrong with hierarchy basically, and that's why if the

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CEO comes to the job site and he is performing

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the role he's supposed to perform respectfully and admirably, there's

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no issue with him being higher in the hierarchy. It's

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it's when these leftists who want everyone to be like

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brought low to the same level, they they fundamentally have

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a problem with that. But there is no there is

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no problem with hierarchy. That's what it really comes back

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to is is you know, the left doesn't understand hierarchy,

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or they understand it and they want to destroy it,

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whereas people on the right respect hierarchy. And that's why

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there's no issue whatsoever with the fact that like Trump

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isn't really just like you know, one of the boys

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Speaker 1: You had any comments on this mic, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 5: Was gonna say. I also, you know, I look at

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this as another example, and you know I was. I

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had Chris Eman, uh the ZMAI on my podcast over

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the weekend or and he brought this up. Is you know,

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over the last couple of weeks you had McDonald's rogan

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now this and you know, as we were winding down

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the campaign here in the next couple of days, it's

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an end of an era and uh, you know, he's

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going out with a bang, you know, the kind of

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the finale of a fireworks display. Because I'll never see

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the political movement that the Trump era, the era of Trump,

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the age of Trump. I never seen this before. Whether

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you love him or you hate him, he changed it

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and I don't I'll never see this again in my lifetime,

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what he's done and it you know, try to appreciate.

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I'm not really good a living in the moment, but

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you know, to take a step back and you know,

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reflect on what it was like when he came into

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this and this truly is the end. No matter what

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the outcome of the election is because he won't be

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able to he'll be he won't run again after this

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if he loses.

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Speaker 1: But I can't. I don't remember a president ever though

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who And ze Man's right, you're right, the this is

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the end of an error era. But if he wins,

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we're going into something. We're going into a presidency like

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we've never We're going into a president elect period like

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we've never seen before. We have no this guy's the limit.

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We don't know what is going to happen. It could

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be peaceful, which we know it's not going to be.

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you know, a Lutwach kind of coup attempts could happen.

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enjoying him in his garb, you know, in the garbage truck,

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and him at McDonald's and him on Rogan, just cutting

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it up with Rogan, we have to remember that between

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the fifth and the twenty the fifth of this month,

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of the coming month and the twentieth of January, this

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could be a period like we've never seen before in

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the history of this country.

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Speaker 5: What do you see for for like for next week, Pete.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'll make the prediction here and people can

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put up the clown emojis and everything because they think

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I'm You don't think I'm a clown. But I think

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we're going to be doing our live stream next Tuesday,

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and we're going to know Trump one before midnight. I mean,

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it's going to be so I think it's going to

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it's going to be at that point. We're going to

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go to sleep that night and wake up the next

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day and wonder, what the hell, you know, what are

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Speaker 2: I think the open question will be the popular vote.

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there may be some shenanigans just to prevent him from

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getting the popular vote, and obviously that matters quite a

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lot in terms of his mandate. If he wins the

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popular vote, which does matter. You can pretend like it

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doesn't matter all you want, but both the electoral college

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if he loses the popular vote, that could be done

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through you know, the mail in system, that we're familiar

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at this point in order to facilitate some sort of

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unrest between the election and inauguration day. I don't think

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it's particularly likely, but there's definitely a non zero chance

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of rather than fortification this time, there are you know,

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as you alluded to, some sort of Lutwok esque provocations

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that could potentially result in Trump not being inaugurated for

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some reason. I think that there's a very low likelihood

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of that happening, but there could also be some sort

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of legal shenanigans happening. Who knows. I think the election

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night will be a lot smoother than last time. I

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don't think we're going to not know until like three

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in the morning. It might take a little longer than midnight,

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but I think it will be clear that Trump has

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won the election. But that said, we need to watch

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what's happening very closely in the intermediary period because is myself,

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the regime wants Trump. I think they have accepted that

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he's unbeatable in a fair election at the moment, but

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that doesn't mean they're not going to continue with every

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possible avenue they can to, if not prevent him from

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taking office, place some sort of sort of damicles above

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his head, kind of like they did with the Marussia stuff.

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mark or obstacle on his administration before it even starts,

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then that could be a way of preventing him from

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achieving his his purported agenda. I don't think they want

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him to just come in and you know, put the

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woke away. I think they want him to be as

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unsuccessful as possible. So rather than a steal or something

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like that, we may see the president elect period be

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used in order to keep so much baggage onto his

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incoming administration that it cripples them in some way. Maybe

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this could be related to Ukraine and Russia, because I

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expect that, I mean, obviously that's the thing they like

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to play, right as the Russia card. Maybe they'll try

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playing it again. We know that there's if he comes

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into office, it's going to have implications for the war

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that will take it in a different direction than what

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Kamala Harris would likely pursue. And it might be possible

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that they will try and use that against him, you know,

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through some sort of obscure law or whatever that has

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to do with you know, him even conceiving that he

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would you know, be negotiating with Russia, even in an

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unofficial capacity before he comes into office.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's something that I've said that I think

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is going to happen. I think that he is going

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to negotiate the peace and in between Russia and Ukraine

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as president elect. And that's going to make people insane.

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That's going to make them even more insane. Something that

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Michael brought up when he was when I was on

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his show last week was that you know, you realize,

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he said, you realize that Kamala has to certify the election. Now,

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how great would it be? I mean not great, but

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just for pure theater. How if she said no, she's

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not going to do it. I mean, what what happens?

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I don't even know what happens in that case? What

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would be the you know what people would do? What

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you would do?

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Speaker 5: Yesterday, counselor I had a concern in kalam On and

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Jim had said, I don't remember what the law is

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or how that what the amendment is now, But apparently

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after twenty twenty, they've changed things or amended things to

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where the person the VP is just basically a passer on,

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like they have no authority to stop it. And that's

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apologize for not knowing what the term is off top

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of my head.

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Speaker 1: But well, that's good. I mean, it's I mean, it

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would be very interesting and it would get us closer.

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I think in some ways that we get us closer

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to some of the goals that we would have because

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it would just delegitimize the regime even more. But you know,

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you would we don't want I don't want to see people,

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well say, I don't want to see some people, but yeah,

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I don't want to see you know, violence, So for this,

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but I don't know, what do you guys think.

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Speaker 5: I think that the R Kane Law, by the way,

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to the new election certification rules is the ar Kane law.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well I will I will say this. A lot

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of people believe that I don't want to use the

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fringing word. So there's two words. One starts with C,

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the second one starts with W. Okay, and a lot

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of people believe that, you know, we're not there yet.

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And my response to that was in you know, the

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the idea of that occurring in the nineteenth century, wasn't

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really a reality for people until what happened with John Brown,

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which was little a year, you know, I mean, yeah,

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it was on the eve of one of the most

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election important elections in history. But you know, I guess

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first as tragedy, second as farce. But you know, I mean,

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you know when when when when John Brown occurred, that

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was sort of when the ship left harbor and there

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was nothing you could really do about it. So I mean,

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I personally think that you know, Donald Trump will win

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overwhelmingly on election night, Kamala not certifying the election results

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or people stamping their fist, I mean, you know, I mean,

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and and if if I were them, the reasonable course

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of action to take would be just hold on for

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four years, lay as many booby traps as you can

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for Trump. You know, he's he's there's only so much

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damage he can do. Batter down the hatches, protect your

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influence networks, wait for him to run out his course,

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and then you put up Newsom in twenty eight against

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whatever Mickey Mouse candidate that the you know, RNC inevitably picks,

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you know, and and and that would be what would

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be reasonable. But you know, these I am I am

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less inclined to believe that these are reasonable, competent people.

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And I understand that some people will put forth that,

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you know, oh, if they were just incompetent, then every

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so often something would go our way. Well, every so

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often something does go our way. It's just there's not

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a lot of press on it, you know. But these

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people are deranged, very irrational, and are losing what little

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that they have left to lose, and if they are

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given a provocation like what occurred in eighteen fifty nine,

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then something like this could easily, you know, just snap

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in a year. I mean, shoot, this was in eighteen

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fifty Now, obviously there were state militias and there were

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state governments and things like that, but like we have

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those today, we have those in our in our present day.

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Hurricane the Hurricane Helene relief taught me something about relationship

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dynamics between the National Guard and active duty army. But

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you know, this sort of thing. The Confederate government was

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spun up in a few months, if that in a month.

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And this is when the fastest form of transportation and

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communication you had was telegraphs, right, which admittedly yes, transmitted

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instantaneous information, but not a large quantity of it. Imagine

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something like this, like, we know what the sides are,

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we know exactly where it would break down on. We

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know it would be a little bit more complicated than

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you know, eighteen hundred and sixty. But it's possible, precisely

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because of how irrational it is. It is possible. And

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I don't want anyone for a second to think that

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because it is you know, completely unfact or you know,

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there's no way it could happen. Wars are not rational things.

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Wars are a lot of times results of a highly

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tense situation in which cooler heads are not present to

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belated decision. So, I know I've been talking for a while.

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Speaker 1: No, that's perfectly fine. So do we want to talk

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about the joke that started the whole garbage thing? Well,

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I can say something about that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just want to give my thanks to President

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Biden for switching sides at the critical hour and you know,

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campaigning for President Trump. You know, thank you President Biden

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for everything you've done for this country. I mean, it's

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pretty obvious that he is now just campaigning for Trump, right,

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like the whole garbage people, which was kind of It's

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so obviously and intentional repeat of Hillary Clinton's basket of deplorables,

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like the whole Maga hat thing is some of the

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things he said. I refuse to believe that this is

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just senile Joe or something making flubs. There's no way

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he didn't do it on purpose, in my opinion, and

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just to cap mister Fahrenheit's point there, I don't think

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Kamala Harris really cares about the election. I mean, she's

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just obviously wasted, like all the time. It's like she

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doesn't strike me as someone who actually thinks she's going

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to win the election or cares about anyone else, which

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kind of means she could do anything, because there's no

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way that this woman actually believes she's gonna win. But

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she's certainly a spiteful mutant, which you know, if we

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look at how Biden has turned on his own party,

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she could easily do something similar or just some other

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random behavior because she's she's a completely unseerious person and

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is clearly not actually invested in this campaign or the

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country at all. But do you do you agree with

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my take on the garbage comments from Biden?

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Speaker 1: Pete, Yeah, I think that he is. I think he

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is very spiteful about this whole thing. It's obvious that

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he didn't put out those tweets saying that he was

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stepping down and endorsing Kamala, and then he seems like

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he's everything he could possibly do since then, I think

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it's only been three months to basically sabotage her, and

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you'd think the thing that they'd want to do is

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is just like to leave him in the White House.

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It have the perfect be like, well, you know, with

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everything's going on with Israel in Ukraine and the e contomy,

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you know, President Biden's working hard, yet they could just

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hide him. Every once in a while he can walk

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out there. You can see he can walk out and

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just wave, so you know, he hasn't died yet, but

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he's managing to get out there. And I think that

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that's probably probably has something to do with his wife too.

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I think, you know, his wife has to be more

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upset than any more upset than him, because I mean,

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let's face it, she's the one who enjoyed all of

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this the last four years. I mean it's like, yeah,

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they say a wedding, the wedding day is really not

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about the bride. It's about the bride's mom it's like,

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this is like what this is what this is like,

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It's like this the past four years haven't been about

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Joe Biden. It's been about Jill Biden. And she's probably

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more spiteful than anyone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a good point.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, going back to that MSG, did anybody anybody

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see any of the footage from there? The jokes, the

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the absolute cring Rudy Giuliani's take on Israel, But it

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seems like, yeah, it seems like everybody was concentrating on

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the jokes and you know, they get some gay comedians

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that go up there and just uh ship on Puerto

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Rico and you know, a joke really only lands if

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there's some truth to it, and it is a floating

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garbage dump in the middle of the Caribbean right now.

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And yeah, it's I think it's hilarious that some people

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have hung their hat on riling up the Puerto Ricans

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to vote, like they weren't to vote for Kamala in

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the first place.

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Speaker 4: Like they carry an electoral college vote.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Ruby Rudy Giuliani moment was really pathetic. But

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then again, given what is happening to him, you know,

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basically literally everything's been taken from him by the court

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case that he lost regarding the defamation of those two

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black women, and in regard to the twenty twenty election.

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You know, it's hard to blame him from being for

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becoming a total suck boy for Israel because like, maybe

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those are the only people who can help him now.

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I don't know. So I don't want to be too

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hard on him, given I don't even particularly like him

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that much, but it's like, given what they've done to him,

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it's like I'll cut him a lot of slack at

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this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, choose in between Juliani and the two primates that

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they gave his gave his penthouse too. I'll pick Giuliani,

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you know, the last see at least we know he's

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not going to be with us much longer.

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Speaker 5: Do you guys find what's what's interesting about this? Like,

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you know, I I talked to you know, Boomers, some

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family members this week and kind of like the R

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and C where, you know, they were just like did

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you see him as g It was amazing and and

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you know it was so motivating, so inspiring, and and

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you know, I didn't watch the whole thing, but Trump's

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speech to me was I don't know, it was similar

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to every every other speech that he does. Right, Giuliani

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wasn't dead, And I mean I've always liked Mayor Giuliani,

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you know, would watch him and how he handled nine

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to eleven. But oh it wasn't didn't grab me. I

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like Hogan though, you know.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's a circus. The reason why Hogan

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Hogan brings so much to this and why people love

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seeing him is because, I mean this is all just

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basically a circus, and when he comes out there just

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reminds us of exactly how much how much of a

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circus it is.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, well, whole Cogan is like the Bell curve meme,

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where he's appealing to both ends of the Bell curve

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the most right. Everyone else is like appealing to the

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Everything else in here is mostly geared toward midwites, but

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the tall Cogan thing is is geared towards the extremes of.

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Speaker 1: The the IQ curve, and those are the extremes that

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make things happen, and the ones in the middle of

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that they're the war. Isn't it so obvious when you

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encounter one on Twitter and you're just like, do I block,

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so I call them a faget. What do I do here?

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Speaker 2: I usually go with just block because uh, I like

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keeping my account, but you know, I understand the alternative too.

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Speaker 1: All right, is there anything else anybody wants to say

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about the uh, about the whole MSG thing. I mean,

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it really didn't match up to nineteen thirty nine. I

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was hoping it was a little more like nineteen thirty nine,

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but we just didn't get there. Guys.

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Speaker 5: Oh sorry, go ahead.

474
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Speaker 2: I was just going to say, it's actually a different

475
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location too.

476
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: So you know, the locations actually moved three different times.

477
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,680
So we're gonna say, what did.

478
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Speaker 5: You guys say? I mean, what did you think over

479
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:14,279
all the energy of the event.

480
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Speaker 1: It was the typical Trump event with you know, high

481
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:23,920
energy and people just there for a party. You know,

482
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,519
there were I think there was They said there was

483
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:31,640
another thousand people outside and there were like fifty protesters

484
00:31:31,759 --> 00:31:34,599
or something like that. So, which is really wild when

485
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,160
you think about it, because when you think about New

486
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,079
York City, you think about you know, SHITLBS Central, and

487
00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:42,160
you would think there would be a whole bunch more

488
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,480
people out there, you know, saying their peace and everything.

489
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:48,519
But no, there was you know, a thousand extra people

490
00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:50,440
who wanted to get in and who were just I

491
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,880
guess there for the environment, and then fifty people who

492
00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:59,880
are probably fifty college professors from like NYU and Hunter

493
00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:01,119
something like that.

494
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 4: What I what I think is interesting is what what

495
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,440
the mayor of New York was saying about it. Eric Adams,

496
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,720
who you know, I know, that's his name, right, that's

497
00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:23,440
his name, correct, Eric Adams Adams. Yeah, I mean, and

498
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:28,160
I don't like he's been Yeah, he's been prosecuted. But

499
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:30,799
I mean, if anything tells you about the state of

500
00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:33,079
the Democratic Party right now, it's not a lot of

501
00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:37,200
their like real on the ground corrupt machine operators, like

502
00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:42,559
the actual workhorses that get the Democratic Party system functioning,

503
00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:47,000
have been prosecuted or you know, otherwise been put on

504
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:49,000
the outs with their party. I mean, you know the

505
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:51,720
Blagoyovitch interview with I haven't watched it yet, but I

506
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:55,440
saw that there was this Blagoyovich interview with with Tucker,

507
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:57,599
and I mean, shoot, if you want to talk about

508
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:02,400
like a down and dirty, like run of the mill,

509
00:33:03,079 --> 00:33:05,160
old school Democrat machine.

510
00:33:04,839 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: Operator, I mean, dude, he explains it. He starts getting

511
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,440
into Chicago politics and it is exactly if you've read

512
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,720
anything about it. I mean, he explains it really well

513
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:17,119
and he doesn't hold back at all.

514
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean, and that's in many ways, the

515
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:25,200
Democratic Party is kind of just how Chicago politics work

516
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:28,000
writ large in the country, you know. I mean, but

517
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,839
but Eric, you know, the thing I was going to

518
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,799
say with Eric Adams is that, you know, the fact

519
00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:35,480
that he's just you know, basically going out of his way.

520
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,480
You know, a Democrat saying Trump isn't a Nazi is

521
00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:43,200
the equivalent of a Republican screaming you know, h H

522
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,720
fourteen eighty eight, et cetera, et cetera, at the top

523
00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:57,960
of their lungs, you know, freaking past the bikes, you know,

524
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:03,240
race car at NASCAR car this evening, you know, et cetera.

525
00:34:03,599 --> 00:34:08,480
That's which is a significant thing. It's like it's like

526
00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:10,159
the same thing with like Biden. You know, we were

527
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:14,920
talking about earlier Biden calling all of Trump's supporters trash.

528
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:17,559
It's the exact same thing, you know, to the as

529
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:21,400
far as the Democrats are concerned, any ground conceded is

530
00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:25,199
the equivalent of you know that on the Republican Party

531
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:27,280
side of things. And so Eric Adams going out of

532
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:32,199
his way, especially in regards to this event, to legitimize

533
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,880
it as part of the quote unquote normal political process

534
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,239
is an absolute breaking of ranks. And you know, it's

535
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,239
it's it's it's really interesting to see now. You know,

536
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,760
I know I made an earlier point, but perhaps that

537
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:50,239
earlier point is meant for twenty years from now. But

538
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,199
it's it's the same thing. But at the same time,

539
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,400
it's it's, yeah, I don't see how the Democrats can

540
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,159
actually politically organize any sort of resistance to stop Trump

541
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,320
beyond you know, setting some booby traps for him in

542
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,719
a variety of departments.

543
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, anybody else have anything? All right, let's move on.

544
00:35:14,519 --> 00:35:20,760
So let's talk about Joe Rogan, somebody who you know,

545
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,679
what's weird is I haven't watched a Joe Rogan interview

546
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,199
in pro over a year, probably probably going on a

547
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,800
year and a half, two years, And I watched two

548
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,800
in like the last five days, which just tells you

549
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:39,360
exactly how how important like the when you have a

550
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,679
presidential hopeful, and then today I'm releasing the vice presidential

551
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,599
hopeful going on the show. So I guess we can

552
00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:52,559
talk about the Rogan and the Trump interview. First, I

553
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:55,199
found it to be I found there were really not

554
00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:00,519
a lot of a really good not a lot of

555
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:02,840
good back and forth. There was a lot of uh,

556
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,920
Trump dodging on some things. Do we have a do

557
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,400
we have a clip from that that from from Trump

558
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,559
broke in that we want to play?

559
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 3: So I always got more publicity than other people, and

560
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,400
I didn't. It wasn't like I was trying. In fact,

561
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:21,920
I don't know exactly why. Maybe you can tell me why.

562
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: I could definitely tell you.

563
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 7: Said a lot of wild shit.

564
00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:28,199
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they said a lot of wild shit.

565
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,119
Speaker 7: And then CNN in there all their brilliance by highlighting

566
00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:35,000
your wild shit made you much more popular. Yeah, and

567
00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:37,280
they boost you in the polls because people were tired

568
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:43,679
of someone talking in this bullshit, pre prepared politician lingo.

569
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:45,840
And even if they didn't agree with you, they at

570
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,360
least knew whoever that guy is, that's him, that's really him.

571
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,119
When you see certain people talk, certain people in the

572
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:54,880
public eye, you don't know who they are. You have

573
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,360
no idea who they are. It's very difficult to know.

574
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,840
You see them in conversations. They have these pre and answers.

575
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,719
They say everything it's very rehearsed. You never get to

576
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,679
the meat of it. The one of the beautiful things

577
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:09,239
about you is that you free ball, like you get

578
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,119
out and you do these huge events and you're just

579
00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:14,559
talking and you're making We've we've highlighted you on the

580
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:17,079
show many times when you did this Biden impression where

581
00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:18,679
he's walking around, he doesn't know what he's doing. Story,

582
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,559
it's it's stand up. It's funny stuff. But it's like

583
00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:24,519
you and you were making fun of Elon once time

584
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:25,840
doing it in Elon impression.

585
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 4: It's great.

586
00:37:26,679 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 7: You have like comedic instincts, like when you said to

587
00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:32,960
Hillary you'd be in jail, Like that's great timing. But

588
00:37:33,159 --> 00:37:36,400
it's like that kind of stuff was unheard of as

589
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,639
a politician, Like no one had done that.

590
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:43,039
Speaker 1: Anyone.

591
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a fairly straight, kind of normy

592
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,599
rundown on like what made Trump popular to be in

593
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,719
the beginning. I mean, I think there's a bit more

594
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,079
to it than just like he said wild shit, you know.

595
00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:03,639
It's it's more like he said things that appealed, not

596
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:10,119
just appealed, but were directly supportive of the white middle class.

597
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,039
I won't say working class because that's a fake and

598
00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:17,119
gay thing that doesn't exist. But the white middle class

599
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:23,880
has been stopped on by the government for decades and

600
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,440
there are there have been no politicians in some of

601
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:34,239
our lifetimes who have actually done anything for the white

602
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:40,480
middle class at all. And that's why the regime was

603
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:46,400
triggered against him, because they recognized that he was appealing to,

604
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:52,039
not just appealing to, but promising to help this group

605
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:56,280
that's basically been slated for destruction or slavery.

606
00:38:59,159 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and and you were talking about there, Charlie.

607
00:39:03,039 --> 00:39:10,599
The Trump was a pressure release valve for the instincts

608
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,679
of you know, what has previously been called the silent majority.

609
00:39:14,679 --> 00:39:18,159
But like you said, you know, basically and it wasn't

610
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,800
just a lower class coalition. That's the biggest mistake people make.

611
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,719
You know, Trump was a white coalition, right, because you know,

612
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:34,039
all political any political demographic test that is worth its

613
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:40,800
salt and is semi honest about things has clearly demonstrated

614
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,159
that as the United States gets more multi racial, people's

615
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:49,679
voting preferences start aligning more with their specific racial in

616
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,280
group to a lesser or greater extent. And what Trump

617
00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:56,679
was was a pressure release valve for those not a

618
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:03,239
pressure release valve. A He spoke to the instincts of

619
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:10,000
to the nationalist instincts of masculine white men who did

620
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:13,079
not like where the country was going. But he did

621
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:16,360
it in such a way that it didn't scare the hose, right,

622
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,800
and he scared the hose a little bit, but he

623
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,480
did it in such a way where the only thing

624
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:22,280
that they were really scared of was how no one

625
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:28,599
had done it yet. And you know, I mean and

626
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,159
and it really is the sort of you could call

627
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,480
this the last gasp of the white of the white majority, now,

628
00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:39,079
of course, barring the largest deportation operation in human.

629
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: History, but.

630
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is really this is the end of something.

631
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,920
This is the I've said this before, and I really

632
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,679
do think he will win, and I think it will

633
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:54,440
be a very good four years for us. But this

634
00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:58,239
is it, y'all. This is this is this is the

635
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,440
last four years of anything resembling a normal America. You know,

636
00:41:03,639 --> 00:41:07,639
so use the time, whise it, get ready, But you know,

637
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,599
you will have four years of peace and relative prosperity.

638
00:41:10,639 --> 00:41:16,920
But after that, who knows.

639
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,599
Speaker 1: Something we don't normally do. I'm going to do Pete

640
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:20,039
Budapest has a super chat here that I want to

641
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:22,800
read because I think he makes a great point. What

642
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,360
we're talking about all this is that things didn't start

643
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,239
changing until Musk bought Twitter. Debate me, he says, debate me.

644
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:37,119
Bro culture doesn't change, jack shit, power does. And see

645
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:42,159
what Dev commented on that and said, whoever moderates the

646
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,400
public square is the one who has power. And I

647
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,760
think that's what we're seeing now. I mean, anyone who

648
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,960
says they haven't seen a shift in the last couple

649
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,480
of years since Musk bought Twitter is just purity spiraling.

650
00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:03,039
They're caught in their in ideological possession of some sort.

651
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:06,920
But none of this, none of this starts to happen

652
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:12,039
until you know, Musk buys Twitter, and you know, Musk

653
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:15,519
buys Twitter. And look, I mean he he's friends with

654
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:20,559
Joe Rogan, and you get you get Trump. He becomes,

655
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,400
he becomes friends, he starts supporting Trump. Then Trump ends

656
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,000
up on Rogan, and people see Trump's a normal guy

657
00:42:27,039 --> 00:42:29,719
who can sit there for three hours, talk off the

658
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,280
top of his head, not have to take a piss,

659
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:36,239
not not really drink anything. And it's like, wow, you know,

660
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,599
I mean this is when we started talking about the

661
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:45,920
PayPal mafia. It all went back to the purchase of Twitter.

662
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,559
That's when things really started to change.

663
00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, this and a number of other things really btfo

664
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,840
Jarvin's hypothesis about money having no power at all, because

665
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:03,360
Elon Musk bought Twitter with money and that's really all

666
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,679
there is to it. Jeff Bezos bought the Washington Post

667
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,760
with money, and in contradiction to some of those writings,

668
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:16,079
it looks like Bezos can actually veto presidential endorsements. And

669
00:43:16,679 --> 00:43:19,639
it looks like as well that the Kamala Harris campaign

670
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,400
is pretty much broke and due to a number of

671
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,599
reasons we don't have to get into here, but Trump's

672
00:43:26,639 --> 00:43:30,480
campaign is not. So it's pretty clear that money actually

673
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:32,480
gives you a lot of power if you use it correctly,

674
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,800
which Musk certainly did. I mean Musk, that was how

675
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,679
he acquired Twitter, and there was really nothing else to it.

676
00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:45,119
So the money was transformed into power through the purchase

677
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:49,440
of the purchase of Twitter. So this is really important

678
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:54,880
because you know, we shouldn't get the idea that like

679
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,800
having having enough money is not enough, Like actually, if

680
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,559
you have enough money, you can you can buy a

681
00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:01,920
lot of power or with it just period, you actually

682
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,519
can just buy power, which is what Musk did.

683
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:15,159
Speaker 3: Anyway, all right, well some of these these women there's

684
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:17,280
so they're so stupid.

685
00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like my favorite moment.

686
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: Oh man, that was you Just when he said that,

687
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,400
I'm like, oh, that's going to be cut and it was.

688
00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:32,159
It was on Twitter in five minutes. It was. It

689
00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:35,880
was so beautiful, so beautiful, so many beautiful things said there.

690
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,239
I mean it the fact that it turned into like

691
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:48,039
a Joe Rogan, a Joe Rogan thing where they start

692
00:44:48,039 --> 00:44:50,960
talking about the UFC and everything that that was that

693
00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:54,159
was pretty incredible. So, Paul, do you got something.

694
00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I I just I just I I wanted you

695
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,480
to come to the end of your come to the

696
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:02,199
end of your But there was another clip from this

697
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,360
interview that I that when Charlie was talking about deploying

698
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,719
money from Musk. It kind of gave me an idea

699
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,760
that it kind of dovetails with what Trump was talking about.

700
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,079
But I wanted to I wanted to make sure you

701
00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:13,599
finished your thought first.

702
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: Well, let's play it.

703
00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 3: Whole life of the White House. But Lincoln had the

704
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,639
yips about in a way as the golfers would say

705
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:27,079
he had a phobia about Roberty. Lee said, I can't

706
00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:30,360
beat Roberty because Roberty Lee won many battles in a row.

707
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,960
He was just beating the hell out of you know.

708
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,039
They tried to get Roberty Lee to be on the North,

709
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:36,840
but he said, no, I have to be with my state.

710
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,719
You know, the state was his whole thing. And he

711
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,559
went to the South and he was I've had generals

712
00:45:43,559 --> 00:45:45,519
tell me we have some great generals. The real general

713
00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:47,440
is not the ones you see on television, the ones

714
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,559
that beat Isis with me. We defeated Isis in record time.

715
00:45:51,639 --> 00:45:54,119
It was supposed to take years and we did it

716
00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:57,039
in a matter of weeks. These are great generals. These

717
00:45:57,039 --> 00:46:00,119
are tough guys. He's in out woke guys. But fa

718
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:06,920
general in terms of genius was ROBERTI. Lee. Strategy, strategy, Strategically,

719
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,639
he took a war that should have been over in

720
00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:13,159
a few days and it was, you know, years of hell,

721
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,000
a vicious war.

722
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 4: And so this was I think one of the most

723
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:25,519
interesting clips of the interview had happened very very early.

724
00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:26,679
Speaker 6: Right But.

725
00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 4: And I will fully admit in the past I have

726
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:33,079
said some things that I was wrong about about Roberty

727
00:46:33,159 --> 00:46:39,639
Lee's strategic capability because I hadn't read about the overland

728
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,760
campaign in Shelby Foot. Yet I have since read about

729
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:50,239
the overland campaign, and I I do not like it

730
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:55,840
is unquestionable the once in a I don't I don't

731
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,320
even like. I don't want to compare Roberty Lee. I

732
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,920
can't think of someone who who was equivalent given the

733
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,400
position that he had. I'm sure if I, if you

734
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,920
gave me a minute, I could even in American history,

735
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:12,920
I'm sure. But what Lee was able to do and

736
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,199
he was uniquely suited, so he was this This has

737
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,760
to do, by the way, with what Charlemagne said about

738
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,679
Elon Musk deploying money to buy Twitter and how that

739
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,920
propelled him into power. Right now, that's a I want

740
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,239
everyone to, every one of the viewers to put in

741
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,559
their mind real quick that Musk deploying money to purchase

742
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:40,400
Twitter is a very comparatively small amount of money. Small

743
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,800
amount of money compared to what our political opponents have.

744
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,480
Our political opponents have functionally infinite money, like it like

745
00:47:48,679 --> 00:47:51,039
like would anyone here disagree with that that they have

746
00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:52,280
functionally infinite money?

747
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: Well, sure, they control the they control the printer absolutely right.

748
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,639
Speaker 4: Now, what that means is they have as much money

749
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:05,360
as they need in any given situation. But within military theory,

750
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,559
if it's just a if it's just a tail of

751
00:48:08,599 --> 00:48:10,840
the tape, if it's just a tale of numbers, yes,

752
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,599
the larger force tends to defeat the smaller force. But

753
00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:21,800
a smaller force can in certain outsized incidents, with a

754
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,440
very good commander who knows how to exploit it through maneuver,

755
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,119
a smaller force can defeat a much larger force through

756
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:33,360
what is called interior lines. What is interior lines, Well,

757
00:48:34,639 --> 00:48:36,760
when you have a force of one hundred thousand men,

758
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,840
one hundred and sixty thousand men, however much it's really

759
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,440
big and unwieldy. The bigger your force, the harder it

760
00:48:44,519 --> 00:48:47,960
is to command and control, the more you have to delegate,

761
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,840
the more levels of command there are, the more places

762
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,800
your orders can be misinterpreted. Right, And oftentimes with armies

763
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,679
this large, they are split into much smaller sometimes even

764
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:06,360
into penantly acting army groups. Right, a smaller force doesn't

765
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:09,320
need to defeat like, let's say, a force of sixty thousand,

766
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:14,400
They don't need to defeat an army of you know,

767
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:16,920
an army of one hundred and twenty thousand at once.

768
00:49:17,639 --> 00:49:19,519
If that an army of one hundred and twenty thousand

769
00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:24,320
is split into into four groups of forty thousand, all

770
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,480
that that army of sixty thousand needs to do is

771
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,440
fight them piecemeal, one by one, right it like exploit

772
00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:34,599
their failures in maneuver, which inevitably will happen. And this

773
00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:39,480
is how Robert E. Lee was able to defeat first well,

774
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,639
he wasn't in command for McDowell, but at the Seven

775
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,960
Pines he defeated McClellan the first time. At the second

776
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:51,039
Manassas campaign he defeated Pope much this way he defeated

777
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,800
was it He didn't defeat McClellan, but when But then

778
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,360
when Joe Hooker came down at the Chancellorsville camp, he

779
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,239
did the exact same thing. Chancellorsville was a masterstroke. And

780
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,400
when Grant and took command in eighteen sixty four for

781
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:11,079
the overland campaign, Lee almost did the exact same thing

782
00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:14,840
at the Wilderness, but Longstreet was injured before the flanking

783
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,760
maneuver could be perfected. It was almost a perfect repetition

784
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,639
of Stowall Jackson's flanking maneuver at Chancellorsville a year to

785
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,039
the day, almost at North Anna, he set a trap

786
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:26,800
that Grant almost fell into, and would have fallen into

787
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:31,119
if Lee hadn't have taken ill And at Cold I

788
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:33,119
mean at Cold Harbor, he just like it was just

789
00:50:33,159 --> 00:50:35,760
like Fredericksburg. It was anyway. I don't mean to get

790
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,199
into autism with this, but the point is is that

791
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:43,280
Lee was able to consistently deploy his much numerically smaller

792
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,440
force in such a way that he could exploit any

793
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,840
failure of maneuver that separated any aspect of the Army

794
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,320
of the Potomac from the rest of the Army of

795
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,159
the Potomac, even when Grant was in If Wilderness had

796
00:50:56,199 --> 00:51:01,760
gone slightly differently, Grant probably would have been fired. Right,

797
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,960
So take this and compare this to maybe if you

798
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,440
were a stute listener, you might have already put this together.

799
00:51:09,519 --> 00:51:12,519
Musk has nowhere. He has money. You need to have

800
00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:14,800
money to sit at this table, but he is nowhere

801
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,519
near the amount of money Teel, the PayPal mafia do

802
00:51:17,559 --> 00:51:20,800
not have anywhere near this amount of money that the

803
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,400
elites do. That the Democrats do, but they don't need

804
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:29,760
to because likely they don't have the luxury of flooding

805
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:34,320
the market with money, but they can play for space.

806
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,639
And they've realized that the Dems, especially because of incompetency.

807
00:51:38,639 --> 00:51:40,840
That was another big thing he had to his advantage

808
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:49,719
was the other side was incompetent generally. All that they

809
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,679
needed to do was find the weakest spot that was

810
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:59,800
also the most disproportionate, the most outsized. And that was

811
00:52:01,199 --> 00:52:03,719
as it was said in the super chat, Twitter is

812
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,159
how real life is Twitter. Twitter is the center of

813
00:52:08,199 --> 00:52:11,800
existence right now. It is the It is the Agoram

814
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,599
of Athens. Right it is where everything is discussed, everything

815
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:18,440
is hawked. You know, you have the most funny, interesting

816
00:52:18,519 --> 00:52:21,119
character it It's that is what it is.

817
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:26,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, just to reinforce before you continue, Like, I know

818
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,119
a lot of people aren't on Twitter and don't want

819
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:32,760
to be understandably, but people who are like YouTube only

820
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,159
or whatever, It's like, if you're not on Twitter, you're

821
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,800
literally just non participatory in basically the high culture, like

822
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,760
culture is made and defined on Twitter. Now the future

823
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,280
of the country is defined on Twitter. Like that sounds

824
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,639
stupid to say, but it is just true. Twitter is

825
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,440
is where it is happening in real time, every single day,

826
00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:57,679
every single hour, every single moment. Now that that is

827
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,119
where things happen, like when we're streaming YouTube right now,

828
00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:05,159
this is like always just after action reports, almost everything

829
00:53:05,199 --> 00:53:08,039
we talk about for the last year or more, however

830
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:10,280
long we've been doing this show. It's it's all stuff

831
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,800
that happened on Twitter, even if the Twitter, you know,

832
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,840
is just like a window into into other parts of reality,

833
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,880
that that it really is where where culture in the

834
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:25,360
future is created. Anyway, just wanted to reinforce.

835
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,039
Speaker 4: That, Yeah, and just to bring this, Oh, go ahead, mister.

836
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,039
Speaker 5: Micro no no, I was just gonna I wanted to

837
00:53:30,039 --> 00:53:32,679
get your guys take on just Elon and and his

838
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,599
you know, investment into Trump and making sure that he,

839
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,679
you know, wins it. You know, why why do you

840
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,239
think he is so invested in this? Do you think

841
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,159
he's a trying to protect his livelihood be you know,

842
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,719
his business ventures are tying into all this Because the

843
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,159
question that I asked myself with them, and I love that,

844
00:53:54,639 --> 00:53:56,559
you know just as much as everybody else, I think,

845
00:53:56,559 --> 00:53:59,360
and I use it a ton, but you know, he's

846
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,239
tied to govern and contracts, and when you're tied to

847
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,519
government contracts, you have to buy by certain rules, and

848
00:54:05,559 --> 00:54:07,719
that's where I get conflicted with him at all this

849
00:54:08,519 --> 00:54:10,119
And I'm just curious what you guys think. Pete. I

850
00:54:10,199 --> 00:54:12,719
know you and I talked about this, but I'd love

851
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,000
to hear with the other guys and how and why

852
00:54:15,039 --> 00:54:16,960
he's so tied into Trump.

853
00:54:17,519 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: Well, I want, I want Paul to finish his point,

854
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,599
but I'll answer this briefly. I think the answer is

855
00:54:23,079 --> 00:54:26,920
very clear and straightforward, and Elon Musk has set as

856
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:32,400
much several times. His life goal basically is to put

857
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,360
a human colony on Mars, a permanent settlement, and the

858
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,440
regime is stopping him from doing that. And that's really

859
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,079
all there is to it. I mean, once you know,

860
00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:46,239
as as Stormy Waters was talking about on Pete Kes

861
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,880
podcast the other day, there's no there's no amount of

862
00:54:51,199 --> 00:54:55,119
money that like Musk has more money than he can spend.

863
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,840
When you have the munch money, you're interested, Your interest

864
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,679
moves to you know, writing your name in history. Basically,

865
00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:06,519
and in my opinion, based on things must as He's

866
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:12,599
articulated this very clearly multiple times. His mission his life

867
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,480
is about creating a human cality on Mars. The regime

868
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:20,599
is stopping him from doing that. Trump is his way

869
00:55:21,039 --> 00:55:24,440
to achieve his life goal. And that's really all there

870
00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:27,800
is to it, I think, and we can come, we

871
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,119
can talk about that more, but I want, I want

872
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:33,719
Paul to finish his points since I interrupted him, Well.

873
00:55:33,639 --> 00:55:36,159
Speaker 4: I mean it's it wasn't so much of a coup

874
00:55:36,159 --> 00:55:39,519
de gras. I mean, it's it's legitimately, it's you know,

875
00:55:40,039 --> 00:55:42,239
I was tying what Trump said about Roberty Lee to

876
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,920
you know, Musk and the paypalm mafia understanding that they're

877
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:49,000
in a beleaguered position and that if you know they're

878
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:53,320
they're just going to continue to be sidelined as this

879
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,679
goes on. And so they've decided to make a gamble.

880
00:55:56,199 --> 00:55:59,400
And much like how you can defeat a much larger

881
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:04,400
army with us smaller army, you can defeat a much

882
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:10,440
more financially equipped opponent with frankly, just better thinking power,

883
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,480
better basis and reality, and a better understanding of your

884
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,079
opponent's weaknesses and how you can maximize their weaknesses. And

885
00:56:17,079 --> 00:56:18,880
that's exactly what's happened.

886
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:21,039
Speaker 1: Now.

887
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: There's also a second angle to Musk, and that is

888
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:32,079
that he's completely serious about punishing the people that as

889
00:56:32,119 --> 00:56:35,440
he puts it killed his son by transing his son,

890
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,599
and someone like Musk, when you're turned into a genetic

891
00:56:38,639 --> 00:56:42,679
dead end, that's as good as death, which totally reasonable.

892
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 4: Take.

893
00:56:43,559 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: So there's two things going on here, and both of

894
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,920
them have coincided in the necessity to go all in

895
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,760
on Trump because it's both his life goal and it's

896
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,960
also revenge and he had Those are two very powerful

897
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,679
motivations working in tandem, and I don't really think there's

898
00:57:00,599 --> 00:57:07,119
any real complexity to Musk's reasoning for getting behind Trump.

899
00:57:08,679 --> 00:57:10,280
What do you guys think about that?

900
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:10,519
Speaker 5: Is?

901
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 2: Does that answer your question?

902
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

903
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:17,719
Speaker 5: Thank you.

904
00:57:20,639 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: What I think one of the things that I would

905
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,800
say about Elon is is that, yeah, I mean, it's

906
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:32,519
always about self interest. Everyone has self interest, and it's

907
00:57:32,599 --> 00:57:38,519
in his interest that the that Trump wins. I mean,

908
00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:41,719
he was joking at the beginning of that interview at

909
00:57:41,719 --> 00:57:44,239
Tucker about, you know, I'm going to be going to

910
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,199
jail if she wins. But I don't think it was

911
00:57:47,239 --> 00:57:50,760
a joke. I mean, I think he honestly believes that

912
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,679
they're going to come after him. If they don't come

913
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,639
if he doesn't end up in jail, they're going to

914
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,559
They're going to break him like they did Trump. They'll

915
00:57:57,639 --> 00:58:00,480
bankrupt him, they'll take away all of his contracts, they'll

916
00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:03,960
make sure, they'll take everything he has. They'll take Starlink

917
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:04,800
from him.

918
00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 4: Like they're doing to Giuliani right now.

919
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:12,159
Speaker 1: They'll take everything from him. Absolutely in his self interest

920
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,280
that Trump wins. And I don't have a problem with that.

921
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:21,000
I mean, ye, let some of my old libertarianism come

922
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:25,079
out self interest. If somebody is self interested and they're

923
00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:27,960
doing something in their self interest, and they're creating something

924
00:58:28,039 --> 00:58:31,760
in their self interest and it benefits other people, well

925
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,400
then their self interest isn't bad. That's not a negative.

926
00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.

927
00:58:39,559 --> 00:58:42,159
Speaker 2: I mean the question I guess is what is Musk's

928
00:58:42,159 --> 00:58:44,840
self interest? And like I said, I think he plays

929
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:45,239
it straight.

930
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:45,599
Speaker 1: I don't.

931
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 2: I don't think Musk is someone who hides the ball

932
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,239
except when he really has to for like legal reasons

933
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,519
or political strategy. But I think for the most part

934
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:02,559
he's very straightforward, fairly uniquely, probably because he's kind of

935
00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:05,440
autistic like some of us. I think he's pretty straightforward

936
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:12,840
about is prima Fashia goals?

937
00:59:14,119 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: No, I agree. I mean, if he's hiding something, I

938
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,840
mean he's doing a really, he's doing a really good job.

939
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,119
It seems like he wears. He's been wearing a lot

940
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,360
his emotions on his sleeve, and he's been saying stuff

941
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,760
out loud that he wouldn't have hurt him. Say, remember

942
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,159
the first time he went on Rogan, I mean, trying

943
00:59:31,159 --> 00:59:33,960
to get anything out of him at that time was

944
00:59:34,119 --> 00:59:37,599
it was like pulling teeth. And now he just gets

945
00:59:37,679 --> 00:59:40,440
in an interview and he just says what's on his mind.

946
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 2: I want to mentioned I want to mention too before

947
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I forget something about ISIS and that clip we saw,

948
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because you know, I think a lot of what happened

949
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:58,559
in twenty twenty in regard to Trump is because of Trump, Russia, Ukraine,

950
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,519
and Trump talked here about, you know, how he defeated

951
01:00:02,519 --> 01:00:05,960
ISIS in only a few months with certain generals that

952
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,760
were clearly leashed and prevented, like the US. Aren't the

953
01:00:10,119 --> 01:00:13,000
military had the capability to destroy ISIS at any point?

954
01:00:13,679 --> 01:00:17,320
Why didn't that happen? And the fact that Trump succeeded

955
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,119
in destroying ISIS quickly is part of this Ukraine Russia

956
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:26,440
situation because where where did ISIS primarily exist? Like Trump

957
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,559
talks about how Obama created ISIS the State Department or

958
01:00:30,679 --> 01:00:33,239
Zog did create ISIS. Why did they do that? Though

959
01:00:33,679 --> 01:00:36,920
ISIS mostly operated at its peak, it's most of its

960
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,079
territory was in Syria. Syria is an ally of Russia.

961
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,679
ASSAD is in particular. So I think the I think

962
01:00:45,679 --> 01:00:49,199
this just is another one of those things that are

963
01:00:49,239 --> 01:00:54,079
the sort of real geopolitical reasons why they needed to

964
01:00:54,159 --> 01:00:58,480
keep him out of office, because he was undermining war

965
01:00:58,519 --> 01:01:04,280
with Russia. And that's probably the biggest as I talked

966
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,239
about earlier, that's probably their biggest problem with him him

967
01:01:07,239 --> 01:01:12,079
coming in again is the possibility of once again war

968
01:01:12,159 --> 01:01:14,679
being undermined. Now you could say they've gotten what they've

969
01:01:14,679 --> 01:01:17,079
wanted at this point. I tend to not believe that,

970
01:01:17,519 --> 01:01:19,199
but I wanted to make that point too, because it's

971
01:01:19,199 --> 01:01:22,000
not the whole Trump ISIS thing is not talked about

972
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:25,400
very much, but I believe it's it's another part. It's

973
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,760
another piece of the puzzle about the related to uh

974
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,280
Zog's war with Russia.

975
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Speaker 1: Yeah, do we have anything else from the from the

976
01:01:38,599 --> 01:01:39,880
interview that we wanted to play?

977
01:01:42,719 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 4: Alrighty, I do have real quick before we move on,

978
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,480
I just I just I just for whatever reason, I

979
01:01:48,559 --> 01:01:51,039
just saw this. Apparently Trump got the got the Jake

980
01:01:51,159 --> 01:01:56,960
Paul endorsement too. I started, as that is.

981
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,559
Speaker 5: And Kamala got Jennifer Aniston.

982
01:02:01,599 --> 01:02:04,079
Speaker 4: I'll take Jake Paul over Jennifer Anniston.

983
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: I mean, at least at least and Lebron James.

984
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, sorry Lebron James too.

985
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,719
Speaker 1: At least Jake Paul has has the influence of young

986
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:18,400
people on YouTube and things like that. So so today

987
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,760
it dropped a little over three hours of jd vance

988
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:27,840
on uh on Rogan. So I think Doug has a

989
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:28,360
clip for.

990
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:33,599
Speaker 7: Us the States Blue Forever, the same with done California exactly.

991
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 8: And we saw this, and look, I'm like a Reagan guy, right,

992
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,159
I'm a conservative Republican. But Reagan screwed up a lot.

993
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,400
He's screwed up mental health in this country. People don't

994
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,400
talk nearly enough about that screwed up amnesty thing.

995
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 6: He really screwed up. Yeah, And people always say, well,

996
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:48,360
you know Ronald Reagan.

997
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 8: You know, when they critics of Donald Trump will say, well,

998
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,039
look at how Reagan talked about immigration. Because of what

999
01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:59,119
Ronald Reagan did at the nineteen eighty six amnesty, California

1000
01:02:59,159 --> 01:03:01,239
is now effectively permanently.

1001
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 6: Blue state except when Arnold won.

1002
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:07,519
Speaker 8: But Arnold ran as a super moderate Republican. He was

1003
01:03:07,559 --> 01:03:09,559
a major celebrity, right, he was at the height of

1004
01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:13,320
his celebrity power. And he's still won barely, even though

1005
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:17,119
California had been mismanaged. California is at one party state

1006
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,199
because of Ronald Reagan's amnesty.

1007
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 7: And that's the fear, is that the entire country could

1008
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:21,719
become one.

1009
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 6: The entire country becomes that now.

1010
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,119
Speaker 8: It also you may not appreciate this, but even if

1011
01:03:26,159 --> 01:03:29,840
you don't give people the right to vote, it really distorts.

1012
01:03:29,559 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 6: Congressional apportionment and then the electoral college. You know how

1013
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,719
this works? Yes, okay too, but so okay, so how

1014
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:37,679
many you know?

1015
01:03:37,719 --> 01:03:41,159
Speaker 8: We have four hundred and thirty five congressional seats. Who

1016
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,760
The way that you draw those congressional districts is that

1017
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:47,159
you try to draw them evenly based on population, so

1018
01:03:47,199 --> 01:03:50,199
that everybody has equal representation. Right, one person, one vote,

1019
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,159
fundamental principle of American law.

1020
01:03:52,239 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 6: But you don't just.

1021
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:56,519
Speaker 8: Count the American citizens. You also count the illegalaliens. And so,

1022
01:03:56,599 --> 01:03:59,400
for example, the state of Ohio lost a congressional seat

1023
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,159
in the last insists and states that have high illegal

1024
01:04:03,159 --> 01:04:06,800
immigrant populations picked up congressional seats. So you're actually taking

1025
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:11,519
away congressional representation from American citizens and giving it to

1026
01:04:11,559 --> 01:04:13,639
illegal aliens. Even if you don't give them the right

1027
01:04:13,679 --> 01:04:16,960
to vote, you're still destroying the voting power of them.

1028
01:04:20,639 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is the one thing we talk

1029
01:04:24,039 --> 01:04:29,840
about if what if Texas turns blue? What happens? So

1030
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:35,440
what was your take on that.

1031
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 2: This is a big deal? I mean one for millennials

1032
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:41,280
at younger, the whole Reagan thing, you know, he's a

1033
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,480
phantom of the past to us, but you know, destroying

1034
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:48,400
the Reagan myth for gen X and older is really

1035
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,000
really important. And the fact that Vance went after Reagan

1036
01:04:52,079 --> 01:04:57,000
like this on the on this fundamental issue is very important. Secondarily, though,

1037
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:06,440
the census and apportionment of representatives. This is a big

1038
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:11,400
deal because if the law can be changed, it can

1039
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,199
be changed. If the law is changed such that illegals

1040
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:21,960
no longer count toward the congressional representative total in an

1041
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:27,440
individual state, that would greatly reduce the actual resistance to

1042
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:32,760
deporting all of these people. Because obviously there's a racial

1043
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:37,199
aspect to this, but there's also just a voting aspect

1044
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:43,440
and if the Republican Party can succeed in removing illegals

1045
01:05:43,519 --> 01:05:50,840
from this population total, then there will be less resistance

1046
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,559
in actually deporting them. Second, the next sense, this is

1047
01:05:53,559 --> 01:05:57,320
going to be in twenty thirty. So what is achieved

1048
01:05:57,519 --> 01:06:01,639
by a Republican administration in twenty twenty four to twenty

1049
01:06:01,639 --> 01:06:05,800
twenty eight is going to have a drastic effect on

1050
01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:10,719
the results of that census in twenty thirty. So if

1051
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:15,599
they can reduce the immigrant population, if they reduce the

1052
01:06:15,719 --> 01:06:19,880
legal immigrant population so called legal like Dvance regards a

1053
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:24,199
lot of them as illegal, as he's mentioned, And if

1054
01:06:24,239 --> 01:06:28,239
they can get rid of the counting of illegals towards

1055
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,320
the House of Representatives, that would mean in twenty thirty

1056
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:37,559
there would be an enormous shakeup in the in the

1057
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,360
in the House of Representatives, a mass not just a shakeup,

1058
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,440
but a massive shift towards the Republican Party to the

1059
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:49,440
point where you know, they could control they would have

1060
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:54,960
total control over over the House basically. And so yeah,

1061
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:59,639
that's that's that's what's essential here. So this is sort

1062
01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:05,000
of set up for the post Trump era in twenty thirty.

1063
01:07:05,079 --> 01:07:08,920
If they can maintain the presidency, you know, maybe through vance,

1064
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,639
who knows who would be the candidate. Right, This is

1065
01:07:12,679 --> 01:07:15,639
assuming things go well. But what he's talking about here

1066
01:07:15,679 --> 01:07:18,280
is a big deal because there's a lot more to

1067
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:22,920
it than just the racial aspect. There's really turning the

1068
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,440
tables on the Democrats. The Democrats are about to secure,

1069
01:07:27,079 --> 01:07:33,360
like you mentioned, with Texas, a permanent control over the House. However,

1070
01:07:33,639 --> 01:07:38,360
the Republicans can completely flip that by kneecapping them, by

1071
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:45,800
getting rid of what I just described anyone else, I mean,

1072
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:50,760
the fact that he's even saying that is I mean,

1073
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:56,840
no Republican candidate outside of one tied to Trump would

1074
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,960
even dream of even bringing up this idea of just

1075
01:08:01,039 --> 01:08:09,880
axing the illegals from the the population counts.

1076
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 4: This mark. What do you think? What did you have

1077
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:13,840
a take on this whole thing?

1078
01:08:15,679 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 5: Well, I was just gonnay, you know, bring up another

1079
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:23,720
question in terms of the mass deportation that they've talked about.

1080
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,119
I mean, do you do you guys think this can

1081
01:08:25,159 --> 01:08:25,600
be done?

1082
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 4: Yes? Absolutely, yes.

1083
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I keep hearing these stories about how

1084
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,880
in the late thirties and early forties, like millions and

1085
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:43,319
millions of people were moved like an en mass by train.

1086
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:51,680
We have technologies progressed, we could probably move twenty million

1087
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,600
in a year if we wanted to. We just have

1088
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,680
to want to. It's all about the will.

1089
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 5: Yeah. I just did you guys see sixty minutes. I

1090
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:02,439
think it was over the weekend, And I saw a

1091
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,399
clip where they had a family and the woman you

1092
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,560
guys see that with her like her parents and her kids,

1093
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,600
and some of them family members were there illegally and

1094
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,720
she said she would leave with them, and it was

1095
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,000
a whole sob story. And I just think, I'm my god,

1096
01:09:17,079 --> 01:09:19,640
when they as soon as they would start this, the

1097
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,279
media would just literally blow this thing up, and the

1098
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:27,000
backlash would be so huge that it just couldn't occur.

1099
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:37,239
Speaker 4: Well. I mean, the question is is how much of

1100
01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:39,399
a mandate does Trump have when he wins. If he

1101
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:43,960
has a mandate, he didn't shoot, He's he doesn't need

1102
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:51,199
to look for reelection, right, So, and if he implements

1103
01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:54,000
even a fifth of the project. When we say project

1104
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,079
twenty twenty five, we don't mean the project. We don't

1105
01:09:56,119 --> 01:10:00,359
mean the actual policy. We mean the five ring of

1106
01:10:00,399 --> 01:10:07,039
everyone in restaffing institutions. If he implements that, even a

1107
01:10:07,159 --> 01:10:11,079
small amount of that, he'll have an executive bureaucracy that

1108
01:10:11,159 --> 01:10:16,279
will absolutely carry out as marching orders. So it's you know, yeah,

1109
01:10:16,319 --> 01:10:18,840
the media backlash or not. I mean, shoot, he could,

1110
01:10:19,159 --> 01:10:25,439
he could. I mean, you know, he he could find

1111
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:29,680
ways to hit them on FCC violations. It's however dirty

1112
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,640
I want to say dirty, but it's however serious he

1113
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:36,840
wants to get. He could completely affect this. It's a

1114
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:42,479
perfect storm. It is. It is his deportation to screw up,

1115
01:10:43,119 --> 01:10:45,359
you know. But the resources are there. The Border Patrol

1116
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:49,119
absolutely wants to run buck Wilde on these people, you know,

1117
01:10:49,279 --> 01:10:52,840
and the country is sick of it like this. This

1118
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:57,359
could absolutely happen, you know, It's completely possible, even with

1119
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:03,680
media counter signaling. What I'm worried about is the drastic

1120
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:07,079
expansion of the H one B system. That's what I'm

1121
01:11:07,119 --> 01:11:07,680
worried about.

1122
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:15,279
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we're going to have to take what

1123
01:11:15,319 --> 01:11:18,000
we can get. If we get mass if we get

1124
01:11:18,279 --> 01:11:22,680
mass deportations, we should be happy with that. I mean,

1125
01:11:24,399 --> 01:11:26,880
I get it. I used to be a libertarian. I

1126
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,560
want everything to be perfect. I want to be a purist,

1127
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,800
but we're at this point. If we can get rid

1128
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:39,039
of like thirty millions of forty million illegals that I

1129
01:11:39,119 --> 01:11:41,520
assume are probably here, and it's probably more than that,

1130
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:46,199
then we take it. I mean, it's we don't have

1131
01:11:46,319 --> 01:11:49,960
that much control. They're you know, there's a promise out

1132
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,720
there of deporting. Do I think it's going to happen.

1133
01:11:53,119 --> 01:11:56,000
I really don't know. It depends on the day ask me.

1134
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:00,359
But yeah, I mean, we can worry about the the

1135
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:04,159
increase in legal immigration. All we want when it comes

1136
01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:06,640
right down to it, all we can do is talk

1137
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,399
about it. All we can do is try and influence people,

1138
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:15,159
but not you know, not being willing to be excited

1139
01:12:15,159 --> 01:12:18,399
about getting rid of thirty or forty million because because

1140
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:23,840
legal immigration may be increased. Well, I mean, what what

1141
01:12:24,279 --> 01:12:25,880
are we just supposed to say, throw up our hands

1142
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,680
and say, oh, well, yeah, well it'screw it. They're they're

1143
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,479
fucking up. Don't do anything.

1144
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:37,079
Speaker 2: I mean, getting rid of illegals is pretty straightforward. It

1145
01:12:37,079 --> 01:12:42,680
will require cooperation from the Justice Department. But all you

1146
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:48,920
really have to do is impose steep penalties on corporations regulations.

1147
01:12:49,239 --> 01:12:53,039
Speaker 1: I have a friend who was the labor attorney in California.

1148
01:12:53,359 --> 01:12:57,359
He actually was the house counsel for a bunch of

1149
01:12:57,359 --> 01:13:00,840
these companies that were housing illegals. He was on the

1150
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,880
wrong side of this. He said. The way they made

1151
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,399
it so that this could happen is by passing regulations

1152
01:13:07,399 --> 01:13:10,279
that allow it to happen. He said, all you need

1153
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:14,760
is regulations to make it to you know, we're going

1154
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,680
to take your company if you do this, it's all.

1155
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,319
It always all comes back to will. If you want

1156
01:13:20,359 --> 01:13:22,880
to get rid of three or forty million illegals, it's will.

1157
01:13:23,159 --> 01:13:24,880
If you want to make sure that there's no more

1158
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,520
legal immigration, it's will. That's all it is. It's just

1159
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:30,600
a matter of will. The fact that you know, you

1160
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,520
just have to ask who has the will to do this?

1161
01:13:34,119 --> 01:13:36,720
And if we want this thing to look more like

1162
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:38,479
we want, we're going to have to get some our

1163
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,279
guys in there. If these are the people who are

1164
01:13:40,319 --> 01:13:41,399
not going to be willing to do.

1165
01:13:41,319 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 2: It, yeah, So all you all would require is through

1166
01:13:46,039 --> 01:13:49,319
those new regulations is making an example of a few

1167
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:58,079
selected corporations and utterly devastating those companies and everyone else

1168
01:13:58,119 --> 01:14:00,560
would get rid of the illegals real quick, all of

1169
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:04,199
their payrolls, and once no one can hire them, they're gone.

1170
01:14:04,399 --> 01:14:07,800
Because these remember, these people are here, I will they

1171
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,319
will just leave you if they can't make money here.

1172
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's we've seen. We've seen en mass more

1173
01:14:19,159 --> 01:14:25,079
self deportation since this crisis has started than forced deportation.

1174
01:14:26,279 --> 01:14:28,520
So the way the way you do it is you

1175
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,600
just make it impossible for them to survive here. And

1176
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,319
like I said, that's just going to take someone with

1177
01:14:33,359 --> 01:14:37,920
the will to do it. So is there anything else?

1178
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,720
Because if we don't think we need to hit some

1179
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super chats because we have a lot of them. No,

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that's wrong, All right, let's all right, let's do it

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all right, first super chat there Blearo three nine three

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01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,319
two dollars super chat. We need to become worthy of

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the god Emperor Trump is right at the beginning of

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this whole thing before we got all serious.

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Speaker 4: No, he's become worthy of us. It's the other way around.

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Speaker 1: That's for sure. Charles Carrol four ninety nine super Chat.

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Happy Halloween's gent with a salute. Happy Halloween and tomorrow's

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01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,680
All Saints Day for those of us who are going

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to mass Fritz Imperial three dollars super chat. Evening gents,

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looking forward to seeing the OGC and Valley Forge this weekend. Yea,

1191
01:15:33,119 --> 01:15:35,720
if anybody's in that area, you can still get together

1192
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,479
with the Delaware Crossing Society. Look them up on Twitter,

1193
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:43,000
and I think it'll be a great event. I think Hunger,

1194
01:15:43,039 --> 01:15:45,079
who was just on my show, Hunger the Die Merchant,

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who was just on my show this week, will be

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when heading that up. Speaking of Hunger, ten dollars super chat,

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that's my president. The optics are really pure Americana. Is

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this the most culturally iconic election since Nixon Kennedy? What

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do y'all think?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I push it back, maybe even a little.

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I'd say it's more important than Nixon Kennedy. It you know,

1202
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it beats Nixon Kennedy handily. I think. I don't know

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if it's it's not it's not Lincoln Breckenridge Tier, it's

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not it's not a Jackson Clay or it's not that Tier.

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I don't think at least.

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Speaker 3: But.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it probably probably like uh t r taft Wilson Tier.

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Speaker 5: Maybe this this thing feels to me like uh, I

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01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,279
was talking to somebody about this today is like a

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k fabe and like you couldn't come up with this

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on Netflix? Where this is going and we still, you know,

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even through next week, we still have a bonus season

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of what's going to happen between November and January.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's like.

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Speaker 5: This is incredible. Like I I look at this and like,

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maybe nothing will happen. Maybe it'll just be a landslide

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and there'll be no black swans and you know, it'll

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just be just smooth, or there could be some curveballs

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coming down the pike that none of us see coming.

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But it's like the anticipation every single day, like we're

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01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:42,279
counting down to Tuesday and that what from that moment on,

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it's like the clock starts of what will occur each

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and every day, and then hours in the.

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Speaker 1: Day there may be chaos. You know, I think we

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01:17:54,279 --> 01:17:58,199
tend to forget because no one really talks about it anymore,

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that there were two assassination attempts on Trump during this,

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during this whole thing since July.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean then you look at oh, I just

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say it, like with Kamala, this is what's crazy. People

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are going to vote for her. They bypass the primary

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and just installed her. They didn't even they didn't even

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respect their own constituents to let them vote, and they

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just put her in. It's amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the interesting rubicon to cross if she

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does win is the fact that she was functionally installed

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without a primary whatsoever, which we all know happens. But

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they have to put up the show, you know. That's

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that's you know people talk about like, oh, you want

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01:18:46,199 --> 01:18:50,319
Trump to be Caesar. Well, the actual the one who's

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legally closer to Caesar is is Kamala and that absolutely

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01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,199
will be a rubicon that you know, we will never

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come back from.

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Speaker 1: Oh I think at that point then the narrative quickly

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01:19:04,239 --> 01:19:08,479
switches to, you know, we we have an illegitimate government.

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And I always said that after Jen six, when they

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built the fence around the capitol, I wish they would

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have kept it there and made it twenty feet high

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because it would just show it just so much more

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of a signal of how illegitimate these people are. You know,

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it's amazing that a foreign power figured out all they

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have to do is buy five hundred and thirty five people,

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01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,279
and you know they can basically do whatever they want

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01:19:38,319 --> 01:19:43,840
and command weapons and money for anything. So yeah, we

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also have to remember Tim Kelly from the Our Interesting

1255
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:50,079
Times podcast asked me this and this sounds like a

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01:19:50,079 --> 01:19:53,079
black bill, but he said, do elections matter when you

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01:19:53,119 --> 01:20:00,720
have an occupied government, it's not a bad question, all right.

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Next super Chat DJ Cogdill down here in Alabama, he says,

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I've been volunteering at a facility in North Carolina since

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Monday and I'm leaving tomorrow. I'm very glad I was

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able to come up here and help, and I owe

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it to the OGC truly, thanks for setting up the

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01:20:19,239 --> 01:20:20,800
telegram chat for it.

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Speaker 4: That's also beautiful enough just the way you are.

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Speaker 3: You're beautiful, You're a star.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if you're involved in with the

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Alabama Chapter, but Alabama is blowing up right now in

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terms of well the sheer number of people interested in

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01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:47,760
the chapter, and there are may be a lot of

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chapters spinning off in Alabama. So definitely reach out to

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the new Magnolia League. Sorry, the Magnolia League if you

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01:20:57,399 --> 01:21:00,239
have not done, if you're not involved with them, they

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wherever you are in Alabama, there may be a chapter

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in your area very.

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Speaker 1: Soon, very soon. And if you do reach out to

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01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,079
the Magnolia League and they don't get back to you immediately,

1277
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,680
know that they've been contacted by about one hundred people

1278
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just just here in Alabama. Population five million. So yeah, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, and and and you know, mister Pete, I always

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say this whenever we end up our episodes, as you know,

1281
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and on. If you are listening to this and you

1282
01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:29,000
haven't gotten involved yet, and you're listening to Pony Express

1283
01:21:29,079 --> 01:21:31,399
Radio each week and you haven't yet gotten involved with

1284
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,439
the Old Glory Club, what are you doing? Like I

1285
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,039
keep telling you all if you go listen to Pete shows,

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I keep telling.

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Speaker 1: All of you.

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Speaker 4: Very soon the Old Glory Club will not be as

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01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,720
accessible as it is now in the sense that you

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01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:48,359
can come in and get in on the proverbial ground floor,

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01:21:49,119 --> 01:21:53,880
you know it. There will be a definite, a definitive

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divide between the people who will come to us now

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and in the near future and the people who will

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01:22:00,319 --> 01:22:03,600
come to us you know, a little bit later than that.

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So you want to be one of the people who

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01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:10,560
gets in now before the door slam shut. That divides

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you between the original you know. I don't want to

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I don't want to use certain terms, but the the

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the original gang, the original the original people, the well

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we're the second founding now but you know, but but

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there will be a huge stark difference between those who

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were here for the second founding and those who will

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be here for the third founding, and it's coming up

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01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,319
very close what that dividing mark will be. So get

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01:22:37,359 --> 01:22:38,640
involved now if you.

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Speaker 2: Can, definitely, especially since you know, it's it's great that

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01:22:43,239 --> 01:22:48,399
we have one hundred people interested in Alabama, but this,

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01:22:48,399 --> 01:22:52,239
this organization isn't something especially as it grow, that you'll

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01:22:52,239 --> 01:22:54,079
just be able to walk into. You know, we're we're

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01:22:54,199 --> 01:22:58,920
far more interested in quality than quantity. Uh So there's

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01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,720
definitely reason to be one of the people who get

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01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,000
in early, especially because you'll be part of defining what

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01:23:05,079 --> 01:23:07,479
the organization is actually going to be. You know, what

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01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:13,239
we actually are is being defined by the people who

1315
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,520
you know, we're brave enough basically to put skin in

1316
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,560
the game and found these first few chapters and be

1317
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,439
these chapters and actually do stuff or you know, do

1318
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:26,680
like what what is DJ Cogdill said here and you know,

1319
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,279
actually go to North Carolina like these are the people

1320
01:23:30,119 --> 01:23:34,920
actually defining who we are. So you really don't want

1321
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:38,560
to miss out on that. And the the space to

1322
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:40,600
be part of that second founding phase that we're in

1323
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,319
now is rapidly closing. I mean, we are we are

1324
01:23:43,359 --> 01:23:47,239
spawning a lot of chapters now, and they're all quality chapters.

1325
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But once that's completed, you won't be able to be

1326
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part of that initial group.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it is important to bring up that

1328
01:23:55,359 --> 01:23:57,960
those hundred people, not all of them are going to

1329
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:04,720
be accepted. So all right, next Superchat Matthew ivy five bucks,

1330
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:08,399
and I just lost it, he said. I was watching

1331
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,680
Tom Woods Dave Smith earlier. This was on Tom's show,

1332
01:24:12,159 --> 01:24:15,159
and every time they name off Trump cabinet, they leave

1333
01:24:15,239 --> 01:24:18,039
out advance Advan says, and in the cabinety's of VP.

1334
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Still don't understand why they hate him. I'm not going

1335
01:24:22,279 --> 01:24:25,399
to speculate. I do know that Dave Smith is friends

1336
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,960
with Vivic, and I think Dave was hoping that Viveke

1337
01:24:29,039 --> 01:24:32,319
would be the VP. Maybe, but you know, it's hard

1338
01:24:32,359 --> 01:24:34,199
to get inside someone's head. I know both of them

1339
01:24:34,239 --> 01:24:35,840
inn but I haven't talked to them about this, so

1340
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:41,520
I don't know. But Lal Bradley fifteen dollars super chat

1341
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:47,159
says bonum DM abeus and best we can translate that is,

1342
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,039
have a good day. Thank you for the super chat,

1343
01:24:50,159 --> 01:24:55,000
you too, Pete Budapest always here with us. Thank you

1344
01:24:55,399 --> 01:24:58,520
five dollars super chat says if Trump wins next week,

1345
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:02,960
it will signal this for the left rebuked, not vanquished.

1346
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:09,680
We we managed to We managed to wear them down

1347
01:25:10,359 --> 01:25:13,880
and not allow them to set the terms. Anybody have

1348
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:14,439
anything on that.

1349
01:25:16,279 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 4: You spell? You spell where in this instance is W

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01:25:19,079 --> 01:25:22,000
E A R and not w R E Just for

1351
01:25:22,279 --> 01:25:24,039
for future reference, mister Budapest.

1352
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:31,600
Speaker 1: All right, so next super chat five dollars, two tellos.

1353
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:36,159
I've emailed the OGC email twice about Helene with no response.

1354
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:38,880
How often is it checked? Is there someone I can

1355
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:43,560
DM to get a quicker response? Anyone got that's all

1356
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:45,239
the way down at the at the bottom.

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01:25:45,279 --> 01:25:49,119
Speaker 4: But so we have we have someone who checks the email.

1358
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,079
Are first and foremost. If you haven't gotten a response,

1359
01:25:53,239 --> 01:25:55,680
I would ask you to This is we've run into

1360
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:59,680
this issue before. People are sending emails to Old Glory

1361
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,520
Club at gmail dot com. It is is actually the

1362
01:26:04,039 --> 01:26:05,800
Old Glory Club at gmail dot com.

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01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 5: I know, I know, I know.

1364
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:13,159
Speaker 2: They look the same as the website, the old the

1365
01:26:13,279 --> 01:26:14,960
Old Glory Club at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so make sure that the that the word the

1367
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:23,680
is included in the in the in the Gmail. But

1368
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there is a telegram group chat to telos. My DM

1369
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:30,319
should be open on Twitter, and I should. If you

1370
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:34,119
know me on Telegram, uh, you can hit me up there.

1371
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,239
But if you reach out to me personally, I'm in

1372
01:26:36,319 --> 01:26:38,319
that group. I can give you that invite link if

1373
01:26:38,359 --> 01:26:40,520
you if IF and that's better than just emailing about

1374
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:42,359
it because that group is where all the and and

1375
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:44,800
this goes for anyone else too who's listening who wants

1376
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,039
to get involved. If you don't want to email the

1377
01:26:47,119 --> 01:26:49,520
O g C, you can reach out to me personally

1378
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,680
and I can provide you with the with the telegram

1379
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,039
link for the group of people who are specifically involved

1380
01:26:55,079 --> 01:26:59,239
with Hurricane Helene response. So yes, my my dms are

1381
01:26:59,279 --> 01:27:03,640
open on Twitter and I'm available on Telegram. Just reach

1382
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:04,880
out at your letter.

1383
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Speaker 1: All right? Next pressure evening salutes. What do you think

1384
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:17,439
the odds are? Wins the popular vote, but Harris narrowly

1385
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:23,079
sweeps the Rust Belt and wins two seventy electoral college

1386
01:27:23,119 --> 01:27:24,680
I would electoral votes.

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Speaker 2: There's just no way. I don't I don't believe that

1388
01:27:33,199 --> 01:27:38,319
is possible short a massive amount of fortification.

1389
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 4: Michael, what you think.

1390
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 1: I mean? Do you see Michel do you see do

1391
01:27:48,039 --> 01:27:51,439
you see Ohio going to Kamala without any fortification.

1392
01:27:53,159 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 5: No, I mean Ohio will go Ohio go rad. I

1393
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:59,199
mean Cleveland will go blue, Columbus will go blue, Cincinnatio

1394
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go blue.

1395
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Speaker 1: But this is Ohio.

1396
01:28:02,239 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 5: Arizona's what I'm worried about because that's where I live.

1397
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:06,840
Butte you and I have been covered. We cover that

1398
01:28:07,039 --> 01:28:12,159
it'll it'll go blue because of Maricopa, A, Maricopa and Chema.

1399
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And I also believe that no one has fixed

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01:28:15,399 --> 01:28:20,039
the problem with the with vote counting in everything the midterms.

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Speaker 5: Did you see the ballots today? They're four pai.

1402
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,560
Speaker 1: It's four pages long, Arizona.

1403
01:28:25,399 --> 01:28:27,079
Speaker 5: It's like a declaration of independence.

1404
01:28:28,319 --> 01:28:30,640
Speaker 1: I think that I think the declaration was shorter than that.

1405
01:28:31,199 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 5: They said that if you if you, it'll take you

1406
01:28:34,119 --> 01:28:35,960
thirty five minutes to get through it if you vote

1407
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,119
every single thing on that four page ballot.

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01:28:41,199 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 1: All right, next, one seasider here every week ten dollars

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01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:49,119
super chat with us. So thank you, Seasider, We love you.

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Two tailors five bucks found out over the weekend that

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my cousin, who was pro BLM in twenty twenty is

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voting Trump. We're winning and it's not even close. That's

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quite a that's quite a jump. Sounds like somebody who

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may be going to work for Christopher Ruffo Pete Budapest

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ten dollars. Kamala's speech on the eclipse was like an

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Irish wake, one last hurrah for the Democrat bureaucrat bureaucrat

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class to bid final farewell to the two thousands before

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Elon comes to town and trims the fat let that

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sink in.

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Speaker 2: Nice nice reference there, mister Budapest.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, it's a I fucking rule for five dollars,

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01:29:47,079 --> 01:29:49,720
says Trump is the boss that comes down to the

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job site and shakes dirty hands. Kamala, Joe and people

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like them sit in their office and yell at their

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staff to find out what the fuck's going on down

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there about, right, chief slinging beef five bucks? Ah, Yes,

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I'm so worried about the Puerto Rican vote. I'm gonna

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win Florida and lose New York. So oh no, so importante.

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Just got to say Pete was number one on JD

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being one of us. We shall see.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I would call him one of

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us per se, but no I wouldn't either. He's I'm

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in regards to mister vance. I am backing the horse

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called self interest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes a lot of sense, all right,

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luth Empler are ten dollars. I don't know if it

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was reported, but during un we Hunter and Joe visited

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Mayor Adams. A few days later he was given charges.

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I thought it was Biden and him arguing, but maybe

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they were planning possible Pete Budapez ten dollars. Don't set

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up debate tables at colleges, take over the university, don't

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debate a nons online by the New York Times, don't

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audit the Fed. Just take it over. Those are those

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are goals. Those are definitely goals to tailors. Another five dollars.

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01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,239
We need the full take from Paul on one. Why

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Virginia is going to flip.

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Speaker 4: Well, it primarily comes down to what Glenn Youngkin has

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been doing behind the scenes, you know, I mean he

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has been crusading to clear as many and look, people

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who live outside of Virginia or people who you know

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01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:54,720
are tangential to Virginia. They know about northern Virginia. They

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01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:56,840
talk about like, oh, Northern Virginia is going to have

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01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:57,760
too good of a turnout.

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Speaker 3: No, what is it?

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Speaker 4: They in Henriiko County, they were having in some jurisdictions

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one hundred and ten percent, one hundred and twenty percent turnout.

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It's not just in northern Virginia. Yes, Henriiko's a blue county. Uh,

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Henriiko's north of Richmond. I made a joke actually when

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I was living in Richmond, I said the you know,

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the song Richmond north of Richmond was about Henriiko County.

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But anyway, but the fact that Glenn Youngkin has been

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going on such a state level crusade of taking off

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all like voter registered like like if if I guarantee

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you that the election workers that will be working in

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in Virginia under the state Attorney General's office or the

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Commonwealth Attorney General's office, forgive me, will things like one

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hundred and twenty percent turnout will not fly all right,

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it will not happen. And even even in places like

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northern Virginia. Even in places like northern Virginia. Add to

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this the fact that in the mountains of the west right,

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you have a huge population of voters who just very

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rarely vote because you know, they're closer to West Virginia

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than anything, and they don't really care because none of

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the state money ever comes to them. But they turned

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out because of the guns issue, and that's why Youngkin

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won in UH twenty twenty two. So frankly, I think

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if Youngkin suppresses the democratic machine enough people talk about

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all these Nova counties, it's very possible loud And will flip.

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If Loudin flips and the West turns out, that state

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goes to Trump, you know, especially if if Young Kin

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is winning these little victories in little burroughs like Henriko County,

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and Youngkin is an extremely competent administrator. I when you know,

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I don't live in Virginia right now, but you know

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when I saw I was living in Virginia under Young

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Kin's administration, and it was night and day as to

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how the bureaucracy function, like something as simple as the

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DMV got flipped on its head. Young Kin knows what

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he's doing. Young can in the private equity world, you

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cannot be stupid, right, And he has the backing of

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the military industrial complex, which is another part of this equation.

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The military industrial complex, not all of it, obviously, but

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a very good chunk of it believes that it is

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a matter of national security for Trump to win, and

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01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,720
you know, they've started pursuing these various you know, they

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used to be called sdis which are strategic defense initiatives,

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but you know, amongst them one of the highest priorities.

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01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,039
This is why you hear Trump talking about his iron dome.

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That's one of the top strategic priorities. George Bush was

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talking about something like that, some kind of missile defense

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as to you know in the early two thousands to Tilos.

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You're really getting a lot out of your five dollars

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01:35:00,159 --> 01:35:00,479
right now.

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Speaker 1: But he has multiple he has multiple super Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's fair enough. I forgot about that, but yeah, no, absolutely,

1505
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but but yeah, And in essence, the military industrial complex

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believes that it is a matter of national security that

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Donald Trump must be elected and in order for them

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01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,560
to fulfill their sdis, which involve a massive reshoring of

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industry in the United States. Frankly, the the defense contracting

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01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:34,680
is nowhere near as potent as it used to be

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01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,000
because everything is run by big firms. There are very

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few small firms, which has killed innovation and productive capacity.

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There's lots of things that need to happen, and all

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01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:49,279
of this centers around the state of Virginia. And you know,

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I don't want to entertain the fact that I'm wrong,

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because obviously I wouldn't have staked my faith and reputation

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01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:57,199
on it if I thought that I could be wrong.

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01:35:57,239 --> 01:36:00,359
I'm not going to even say that. I believe I'm right,

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01:36:01,159 --> 01:36:06,640
and it will be tested on election day. So that

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is why I believe I am right.

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Speaker 1: Alrighty, moving on hammering twenty dollars super chat. If Trump

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01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:17,560
makes it in and wants to have lasting impact, he

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01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:20,359
can't just swap out some staff members. He needs to

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01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:24,760
abolish or replace entire departments. Elon's experience in engineering and

1525
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:29,079
startups can really help here. Salute one hundred percent agree.

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01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:36,439
Managerial state needs needs to be dismantled. All right, Read

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01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:39,159
Things you shouldn't with a fifty dollars super chat. I

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01:36:39,279 --> 01:36:41,920
think that we have some gold for him.

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01:36:42,359 --> 01:36:45,239
Speaker 4: This is gold, mister von. All my life, I've been

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in love with its color. I welcome any enterprise that

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01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:49,800
will increase my stock.

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01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:57,079
Speaker 1: All right. Message here from read Things you shouldn't quote.

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01:36:57,359 --> 01:37:00,119
Duty is the most sublime word in our language. Do

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01:37:00,239 --> 01:37:03,520
your duty in all things. You cannot do more, You

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01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:06,439
should never wish to do less. General Robert E.

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Speaker 5: Lee.

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01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:10,199
Speaker 1: Maybe one day be blessed with the leader the likes

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01:37:10,319 --> 01:37:18,720
of General Lee. Amen. Three dollars super chat from Mellon. Oh,

1539
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:22,600
Mellon on the ground, need like three dudes to make

1540
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:26,079
phone calls for the West North Carolina supply chain project,

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01:37:26,239 --> 01:37:29,199
potentially twenty five dollars an hour if you don't suck

1542
01:37:30,079 --> 01:37:35,479
DM at Melon the Giraffe on Twitter if you're interested,

1543
01:37:36,239 --> 01:37:38,800
and Melon's been doing great work up there, has any

1544
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:40,840
guess absolutely.

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01:37:41,119 --> 01:37:45,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of our regulars. So definitely hit up

1546
01:37:45,239 --> 01:37:49,039
Mellon on Twitter if you're interested, and like you said,

1547
01:37:50,319 --> 01:37:54,359
please like don't don't bother him if you're not committed

1548
01:37:54,399 --> 01:37:57,039
to what he's asking for, because the people on the

1549
01:37:57,079 --> 01:37:59,119
ground are very busy.

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01:38:01,279 --> 01:38:04,640
Speaker 1: Bilero three ninety three five dollars super chet. Jd Vance

1551
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,680
what about legal immigration or was that too close to home?

1552
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:12,399
Is jd Vance on the call? See on the panel?

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01:38:13,279 --> 01:38:18,640
Speaker 2: I mean Vance discussed, like I mentioned that a lot

1554
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:24,560
of the immigrants who are considered legal were illegally made legal.

1555
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:31,239
So you know, clearly he's not entirely restricted to what

1556
01:38:31,359 --> 01:38:33,319
we now define as illegal immigrants.

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Speaker 4: Yep, the horse called self interest.

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01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, once again that It's like, it's kind of just

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01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:44,520
an irrelevant question really, because the horse called self interest.

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Speaker 4: You know, look, I like jd Vance the same reason

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that I like King Jayhu in the Bible. Right, you know,

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01:38:54,199 --> 01:38:56,199
I like King jay Who not because he was like

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01:38:56,399 --> 01:38:59,279
great and like worthy in the eyes of the Lord,

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01:38:59,359 --> 01:39:01,880
but because he just killed all the priests of Ball.

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That's what he did. He wasn't a good man, right,

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01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:07,239
Trump used him or not?

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01:39:07,359 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 1: Trump? Trump?

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Speaker 4: Sorry, God used it. You all call him the God Emperor,

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and that fringing hacks me bringing you know, the God

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01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:22,159
used Jayhu right to kill all of the priests of

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Ball to to clean up Israel a little bit. And

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01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:27,880
jay Who wasn't a good man. That's why I like

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01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:32,000
jd Vance. I don't feel this need to like say

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01:39:32,039 --> 01:39:34,119
that he's one of us. I don't feel this need

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01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:36,279
to go around and be like, oh, guys, look, it's

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01:39:36,279 --> 01:39:38,359
he's a he's a he's just like me. He was

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01:39:38,399 --> 01:39:42,319
an emo and or it's pathetic. I don't care. Jd

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01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:45,560
Vance is married to an Indian woman while being a Catholic,

1579
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:48,039
and you know, he invokes the name of Christ while

1580
01:39:48,079 --> 01:39:49,920
going against his commandments. And I know we all do

1581
01:39:50,119 --> 01:39:54,760
that I understand, we all do that, but that doesn't

1582
01:39:55,640 --> 01:40:03,479
alleviate it, right and it it frankly, you don't. You

1583
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:06,279
need to demand more of your leaders, all of you.

1584
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:08,479
I get it. We have to take what we can get.

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01:40:09,279 --> 01:40:11,800
But in your own minds and in your own principles, right,

1586
01:40:12,359 --> 01:40:14,880
you accept the leaders you're given, but you you, you

1587
01:40:15,119 --> 01:40:18,520
need to. You need to start expecting more, you know,

1588
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:21,000
because if you don't, we're never gonna get any You

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01:40:21,079 --> 01:40:23,199
know that fifty dollars super chat. You know, May God

1590
01:40:23,279 --> 01:40:25,960
bless us with a leader the likes of the likes

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01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:29,039
of Roberty Lee one day. You're not gonna get a

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01:40:29,159 --> 01:40:31,920
leader the likes of Roberty Lee until you start demanding

1593
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,960
more of your leaders. And you need to demand someone

1594
01:40:35,079 --> 01:40:38,079
better than Jdvans. Jdvance is the best we got right now,

1595
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:42,760
and that is terrible. We're never gonna pull ourselves out

1596
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:46,920
of this, out of this like you know dark age

1597
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:51,119
that we have been in since the Clinton administration, since

1598
01:40:51,279 --> 01:40:54,800
since since yeah, since the Clinton administration, We're never gonna

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01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:56,920
pull ourselves out of it, you know, I mean, And

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not to say Reagan was any better, right, you know,

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01:41:01,119 --> 01:41:04,479
wherever you land your yardstick We're never going to pull

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01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:07,039
ourselves out of it until you start demanding more of

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01:41:07,119 --> 01:41:07,640
your leaders.

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01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 1: That's it. Balero three ninety three, other super Chat five dollars.

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01:41:15,039 --> 01:41:17,319
I agree, you get excited about legals going home, but

1606
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:20,000
never settle. We should learn from the left to never

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01:41:20,079 --> 01:41:22,560
get satisfied with what politicians give.

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01:41:23,399 --> 01:41:26,279
Speaker 4: Case in point almost you know, a complete reinforcement of

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01:41:26,359 --> 01:41:26,960
what I just said.

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Speaker 5: And also that's why we're in this semess to begin with. Right,

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01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:35,560
the right is always compromised, always compromising, accepting things that

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01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:36,600
we just shouldn't accept.

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Speaker 1: To add to that last statement, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Our Sacario Review comes out tomorrow, Right, is that right?

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01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, do you know, Charlie, I'm pretty.

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01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:52,319
Speaker 2: Sure because it's the last Friday before the election. So yeah,

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01:41:52,359 --> 01:41:56,239
we recorded that. Yeah, I'm not the editor. I'm not

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01:41:56,279 --> 01:41:59,520
scheduling these things, okay, But you know the reason I

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01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:04,359
mentioned that, it's just because it's like it doesn't matter

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like how many pictures of you know, brown people crying

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01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:10,319
they show us. It's like, the things that have to

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01:42:10,359 --> 01:42:12,279
get done need to be done, and we need to

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01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:14,640
demand of our leaders that they do them. And I

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01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:18,079
don't care how many brown people get their feelings hurt.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know, fight out a super chat, Pete Budapest. Hey,

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look on the bright side, this time next week, it'll

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be totally acceptable to question election results again hashtag TBT.

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Let's see screwed up rebellion five dollars salute and God

1629
01:42:39,359 --> 01:42:43,359
bless the boys. Thank you screwed up rebellion Lerro three

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01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:46,439
ninety three again, fight out a super chat. Rough estimated

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01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:50,600
time of new chapter acceptance asking for my friends in

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the typical Cane Society.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it just depends on how quickly you incorporate.

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If you said us, what is it if you send

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01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:05,640
us a document, a chapter application document of you know,

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01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:08,520
the five people, and we deem it as a sufficient

1637
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:12,119
amount of backstory and we don't have any objections with

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any of the personnel you put forward. You know, at

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that point, it's it's up to you. It's however fast

1640
01:43:17,359 --> 01:43:19,920
you can get incorporated. Once you send your incorporation docs

1641
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:22,600
over to us, we will vote on you that next tuesday.

1642
01:43:23,279 --> 01:43:26,520
You know, it's it's it's maybe the L and L

1643
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:30,720
will discuss it. The committee that we have for the

1644
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:34,000
discussion of chapter formation. Maybe maybe we'll discuss it and

1645
01:43:34,079 --> 01:43:37,159
it'll take two weeks, but you know that next Tuesday.

1646
01:43:37,239 --> 01:43:39,199
Usually if you once you sent once you incorporate and

1647
01:43:39,239 --> 01:43:42,680
send in your incorporation documents and it's done the right way,

1648
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:45,119
which we will happily meet with you to discuss the

1649
01:43:45,199 --> 01:43:48,079
right way for it. But it's not super complicated. It's

1650
01:43:48,159 --> 01:43:53,600
just a state nonprofit, right, that's all it is. Freaking

1651
01:43:56,159 --> 01:43:58,840
So basically, in a short version of what I'm saying,

1652
01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:02,159
a week if as soon as you get your incorporation

1653
01:44:02,319 --> 01:44:04,159
documents done and you get incorporated in the state, a

1654
01:44:04,239 --> 01:44:05,079
week maybe.

1655
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:09,560
Speaker 2: Two, Yes, if we like you. And one of the

1656
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:14,239
most important parts is filling out the bio section, uh extensive.

1657
01:44:14,319 --> 01:44:16,640
Speaker 4: Fill out your bios please.

1658
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:20,079
Speaker 2: We've you've gotten some short ones. We've kind of let

1659
01:44:20,159 --> 01:44:25,199
them slide because there's already known people, but not we're

1660
01:44:25,239 --> 01:44:28,039
not doing that anymore. Fill out the bios. It's not

1661
01:44:28,159 --> 01:44:28,880
a meme, you know.

1662
01:44:30,239 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 4: And if you were, if you were involved in some

1663
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:34,600
stuff that maybe you don't want to you know, you're

1664
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:37,600
you're not to tell us. Worst we can say is no,

1665
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:39,800
And it's not hard feelings, but it's just how it is.

1666
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:43,159
But like we're tolerant because we have to be of

1667
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:46,640
that sort of thing, you know, but we just we

1668
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:48,920
want to know about it, right And if you just

1669
01:44:49,039 --> 01:44:51,239
if you write us like a two sentence bio, we're

1670
01:44:51,279 --> 01:44:53,079
just going to send it back and be like, come

1671
01:44:53,159 --> 01:44:56,000
back when you're serious, you know, So keep this in mind,

1672
01:44:56,119 --> 01:44:57,000
be serious with us.

1673
01:44:57,039 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 1: We'll be serious with you. Yeah, we might even ask

1674
01:45:00,079 --> 01:45:02,479
for a picture so we can do a physiogamy check

1675
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:08,399
fight dollar super chat from Filosmiscelani, who's going to be

1676
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:11,079
at the Portland event with some of our friends this weekend.

1677
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:13,960
So as much love to Pete Q. Just tuning in

1678
01:45:14,119 --> 01:45:16,880
now and extremely hype for the election. Looking forward to

1679
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:20,279
your next book reviews. Thanks man, it's actually texting me

1680
01:45:20,399 --> 01:45:24,039
during the while we were doing this. I fucking rule

1681
01:45:24,319 --> 01:45:27,720
ten dollars super chat. Good show tonight, Ohio folks, get

1682
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:33,720
at us to Telos ten dollars to compensate for the

1683
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:39,760
long response. Christ is King awesome fight our super chat

1684
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:44,920
from Yeha yenz er salute and last one before we

1685
01:45:45,039 --> 01:45:49,800
move on, King Shoshan five dollars. The only river to

1686
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:53,239
the sea I care about is Virginia from the Ohio

1687
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:56,359
to the Atlantic. Pity about Fairfax.

1688
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:59,159
Speaker 4: Though indeed it is.

1689
01:45:59,319 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 1: It is it is.

1690
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 4: It's very much a pity that Fairfax County exists.

1691
01:46:05,039 --> 01:46:07,359
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the next subject, which

1692
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:11,800
is let's talk about Ukraine. And might just want to

1693
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:15,000
throw this one over to Charlie because I'm sure he's

1694
01:46:15,039 --> 01:46:18,840
been all over this one so it looks like you

1695
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:20,239
what you want to talk about this? Go ahead?

1696
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:23,119
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I was just gonna say, we're two hours in,

1697
01:46:23,279 --> 01:46:25,399
so we'll just be quick with it. But just a

1698
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:30,840
quick little Ukraine War update since you know, serious things

1699
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:35,640
might be happening in regard to the next administration coming

1700
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,760
in in less than a week effectively, so it's worth

1701
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:43,199
understanding where we're at in the conflict. So here's here's

1702
01:46:43,239 --> 01:46:46,079
like a map of territorial gains by each side over

1703
01:46:46,119 --> 01:46:48,319
the last two years, so as you can see, and

1704
01:46:48,399 --> 01:46:51,600
of course this is not including Kursk, as that is

1705
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:54,239
not the primary theater of operations, and even if you

1706
01:46:54,319 --> 01:46:58,119
do include that, it doesn't actually fully offset the Russian games.

1707
01:46:58,159 --> 01:47:01,520
But as you can see the amount of physical territory

1708
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:05,520
Russia has been getting in Ukraine is rising sharply as

1709
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:13,319
the Ukrainian military deteriorates both in its manpower capacity, artillery capacity,

1710
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:19,840
its electronic warfare capacity, all of that, and it will

1711
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:22,800
be interesting to see where this trend line goes over

1712
01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:27,600
the winter, if it slows down, if it reverses a

1713
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:29,840
little bit. But the way things are going now, although

1714
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:33,199
this has mostly been a war of attrition, as you

1715
01:47:33,239 --> 01:47:38,680
can see over the last year, Ukrainians basically are totally

1716
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:42,239
unable of mounting of fences at this point, and the

1717
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:45,920
war has actually moved back into a phase of a

1718
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:50,119
war of movement and Russian campaigns are now being conducted

1719
01:47:50,239 --> 01:47:54,279
with multiple armies or army groups, depending on what you

1720
01:47:54,319 --> 01:47:56,760
want to call them, but they have groupings of brigades

1721
01:47:56,840 --> 01:48:01,640
that are operating on a level where the entire towns

1722
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:08,560
or cities are being now enveloped double envelopments, close to

1723
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:12,279
encircled in some cases, and they capture these things intact,

1724
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:15,119
Ukrainians just have to retreat. So we're getting to the

1725
01:48:15,159 --> 01:48:18,600
point where looking at the territorial gains is starting to

1726
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:20,720
matter again. And to me, what it looks like what's

1727
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:24,479
happening is in the the Netsko Blast in particular, Russia

1728
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:28,119
is probably trying to secure as much physical territory as

1729
01:48:28,159 --> 01:48:32,800
they can before Trump is inaugurated and negotiations starting to

1730
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:35,840
start get really serious, because I think the Russians want

1731
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:39,039
to establish a baseline of the four oh West they annexed,

1732
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:43,159
and I expect we're going to see in the winter,

1733
01:48:44,199 --> 01:48:47,760
when it's harder for the Ukrainians to move, they're gonna

1734
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:50,800
get absolutely bombed the hell by the Russian Air Force

1735
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:58,439
and their fab glided bombs, and that could really tip

1736
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:02,960
the scales, because if the Russians are able to significantly

1737
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:07,479
attrit Ukrainians in the winter, or even just keep moving

1738
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:12,600
at this pace, once the campaign season returns in twenty

1739
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:15,239
twenty five, it's definitely going to be over. The Ukrainians

1740
01:49:15,279 --> 01:49:19,079
are talking about having to defend the nepro Oblast. Now Here,

1741
01:49:19,119 --> 01:49:22,560
we're looking at southern to Netskin. After the fall of Abdievka,

1742
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:25,680
you can see the front line start moving again, and

1743
01:49:26,319 --> 01:49:30,439
as this clip moves forward, you will see the pace

1744
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:34,399
starts quickening, and towards the very end of this gift,

1745
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:37,920
it goes really fast, especially in the south, and it's

1746
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:44,760
actually continuing at that rate. So basically we're in a

1747
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:46,560
new phase of the war and we may be reaching

1748
01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:49,920
the end phase. There's a good chance we'll see an

1749
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:52,439
end of the war in twenty twenty five for one

1750
01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:57,760
reason or another after Trump is inaugurated. So that's really

1751
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:00,600
the only thing I wanted to say say here. It's

1752
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:05,279
certainly interesting from a military perspective seeing the stalemate broken

1753
01:50:05,359 --> 01:50:08,680
and movement happening again, the likes of which, as that

1754
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:12,479
graft showed, the Russians have not gained this much territory

1755
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:16,319
since July twenty twenty two, when the war was still

1756
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:20,680
in its early stages and the lines had not solidified yet.

1757
01:50:22,039 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 1: So that's it. Yeah, this is a this is a

1758
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:31,760
war that Russia could have. This could have been over

1759
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:35,399
very early if they had taken this kind of taken

1760
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:40,199
this kind of attack. But some of the telegrams ch

1761
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:44,199
some of the telegram channels that I follow, are just

1762
01:50:45,039 --> 01:50:48,680
like every ten minutes, Russia has taken this spot, Russia's

1763
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:51,399
taken this spot. Russia's taken this spot. I think you're

1764
01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:54,199
one hundred percent right. They're getting as much as they

1765
01:50:54,279 --> 01:50:58,239
can to have as much negotiat as much negotiating power

1766
01:50:58,319 --> 01:51:02,439
as they can with this new with the which what

1767
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:05,000
I believe is going to be the new regime that's

1768
01:51:05,079 --> 01:51:09,239
coming in. And as I said earlier, I actually think

1769
01:51:09,279 --> 01:51:14,279
that this, they'll probably negotiate it even before inauguration day.

1770
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:18,439
So yeah, it's just wild to see. This is something

1771
01:51:19,079 --> 01:51:22,239
that there was peace talk. There were peace talks on

1772
01:51:22,319 --> 01:51:25,960
the table in April of twenty twenty two. This could

1773
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:32,560
have been ended, and this horrible, horrible occupation regime wanted

1774
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:35,640
us to keep going and hopefully we'll get to the

1775
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:44,640
end of this very soon. Well, let's finish us up

1776
01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:47,640
with We've been going close to two hours. Now, let's

1777
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:50,680
finish us up talking about bricks, because bricks is another

1778
01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:55,840
part of this. It seems that more and more countries

1779
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:59,359
are signing on to bricks. They're rolling out their new

1780
01:52:00,399 --> 01:52:03,960
what could possibly be their currency, which god that looks awful.

1781
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:08,560
But you know, one of the things that just throw

1782
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:12,039
one of the things out there is that Russia and

1783
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:19,119
North Korea have signed a treaty to you know, basically

1784
01:52:19,239 --> 01:52:22,399
like almost like a NATO kind of treaty where if

1785
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:25,399
someone attasked you, well find it's.

1786
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:29,239
Speaker 2: A mutual defense treaty. Yeah, this is a massive l

1787
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:33,279
for the West because Trump was really normalizing relations with

1788
01:52:33,359 --> 01:52:37,000
North Korea and now that path's basically been cut off

1789
01:52:37,079 --> 01:52:40,560
because North Korea has a mutual Defense treaty with Russia,

1790
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:42,920
and like what is the point of this? Like what

1791
01:52:43,159 --> 01:52:46,079
what what gain does Russia have from this? I mean

1792
01:52:46,159 --> 01:52:49,720
basically what they're saying is they're they're cutting North Korea

1793
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:55,600
off from ever being rejoined with South Korea or color

1794
01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:58,640
Revolution or something like that. They're saying, your your this

1795
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:02,399
is our sphere. You're staying out of it. So it

1796
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:05,880
relates to bricks because there's a much more like this.

1797
01:53:06,079 --> 01:53:10,079
That treaty is very material, right, it's not, it's not

1798
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:15,079
phantasmal or something. So there's the the lines for the

1799
01:53:15,279 --> 01:53:21,439
basically globalist versus anti globalist countries are being drawn ever

1800
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:24,640
more clearly in the sand. Now this this picture here

1801
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:27,880
of Putin holding this proposed like bricks Banknote, it's just

1802
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:31,279
a it's just a design proposal. There's not even an

1803
01:53:31,319 --> 01:53:34,760
agreement yet on whether any future bricks currency would be

1804
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:39,479
based on gold or some other means. So it's it's

1805
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:41,159
just an idea that's out there. The fact that the

1806
01:53:41,239 --> 01:53:45,119
idea is being floated as significant. And obviously, as has

1807
01:53:45,159 --> 01:53:50,279
been pointed out, the bricks countries combined do not have

1808
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:54,760
anywhere near the financial buying power of the American dollar.

1809
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:58,159
But That's also kind of beside the point, because yes,

1810
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:02,720
the United States has access to far more financial power

1811
01:54:03,239 --> 01:54:06,399
than basically the rest of the world combined, but that

1812
01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:10,279
only goes so far because some things just aren't for sale.

1813
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:13,760
It doesn't matter if the United States can amass more

1814
01:54:14,159 --> 01:54:17,640
money and buying power than every other country in the world.

1815
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:20,680
If all the other countries or a significant proportion of

1816
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:23,720
them have alliance to set up so that they can

1817
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:27,159
get what they need without the Americans. And you know,

1818
01:54:27,319 --> 01:54:31,600
how much how much would it cost to purchase Russia

1819
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:34,960
from Putin or Syria from Asad. It's like, at some

1820
01:54:35,079 --> 01:54:38,840
point it doesn't matter how much money America has. You

1821
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:41,239
can only buy things that are for sale, and not

1822
01:54:41,359 --> 01:54:47,359
everything is actually for sale, so things like this are not.

1823
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:51,640
People make the mistake of making like a one to

1824
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:55,319
one comparison between a bricks currency and the dollar, and

1825
01:54:55,439 --> 01:54:57,159
like that's not the point. It's like they're not gonna

1826
01:54:57,600 --> 01:55:00,840
outcompete the dollar and like outspend us. The point is

1827
01:55:01,319 --> 01:55:07,159
separating themselves from caring about dollars because you know, as

1828
01:55:07,239 --> 01:55:10,319
we talked about earlier, they may have the money printer

1829
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:14,399
America may have. You know, the vast majority of the

1830
01:55:14,439 --> 01:55:17,920
world's paper money. But you can only buy things that

1831
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:22,039
are for sale, and the guy on the screen right

1832
01:55:22,079 --> 01:55:25,640
now is not for sale, not to the Americans.

1833
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:32,199
Speaker 1: Yeah. And if anything, it's it's symbolic. It's it's saying

1834
01:55:33,079 --> 01:55:36,119
we're we're not going to be under your thumb ever again,

1835
01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:40,159
or you know, or come to the table. Yeah. And

1836
01:55:40,239 --> 01:55:42,520
I think that's one of the things that if you

1837
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:44,880
do have a Trump presidency and you do have someone

1838
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:47,960
like Elon musk and there or Howard Lutnick, all these

1839
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:52,039
people who are surrounding him, they will These are people

1840
01:55:52,039 --> 01:55:57,560
who want to make money and trading, having trading, real

1841
01:55:57,680 --> 01:56:01,800
trading partners, you know, not secondary trading partner, is not

1842
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:05,000
you know, you're you know, you're you're below us in

1843
01:56:05,039 --> 01:56:10,600
this relationship would be something that we could possibly see.

1844
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:13,560
And to set something up like that, first of all,

1845
01:56:13,600 --> 01:56:15,399
you're probably they're going to try to kill you if

1846
01:56:15,439 --> 01:56:17,479
you do that. But if you can set something up

1847
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:20,880
like that, you are like you are marking out the

1848
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:26,079
future and you're looking at more you're looking at more peace,

1849
01:56:26,239 --> 01:56:29,600
and then you can deal with the real rogue states.

1850
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:33,640
And at that point, someone like Russia will help you

1851
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:37,279
deal with the with the rogue states that you're dealing with,

1852
01:56:37,439 --> 01:56:40,600
because they deal with a lot, They deal with a

1853
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:43,560
lot of those states, but and they support a lot

1854
01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:47,279
of those states. But again, it comes down to this

1855
01:56:47,399 --> 01:56:54,000
occupation regime that has taken over the West and is

1856
01:56:54,199 --> 01:56:59,279
their power diminishing? And I think that's probably the biggest

1857
01:56:59,399 --> 01:57:01,479
question that we can ask with this.

1858
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:07,399
Speaker 2: So yeah, I should also mentioned on the North Korea thing,

1859
01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:10,399
there's been talk about North Korean troops being deployed in

1860
01:57:10,439 --> 01:57:15,640
the war. It may be possible that North Korean troops

1861
01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:19,840
are deployed in Kursk on Russian territory. The invasion of

1862
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:23,880
Kursk was declared a terror operation, which has allowed the

1863
01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:26,479
Russian state to deploy police forces and things like that,

1864
01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:31,039
and deploying North Korean forces within Russian borders, you know,

1865
01:57:31,119 --> 01:57:37,560
internationally recognized Russian borders would not violate any international laws

1866
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:40,640
quote unquote, so it wouldn't cause any problems that don't

1867
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:43,680
already exist. But importantly, one of the things I've hammered

1868
01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:47,239
on throughout this whole war, and you know, the Russian

1869
01:57:47,359 --> 01:57:50,359
army in twenty twenty two far less competent than they

1870
01:57:50,399 --> 01:57:52,960
are now. You know, the main issue for the West

1871
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:55,640
in this war is the Russians now have almost three

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years of fifth generation warfare combat experience and have become

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quite competent at it and are deploying new technologies. And

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the North Koreans getting any battle experience at all against

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a modern army is huge because that experience goes much

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further than training operations or theory can go. Getting live

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fire exercise like that is critical. So if North Korean

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troops are deployed in Kursk in any capacity, that's a

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huge benefit to that state. And it's also just where

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it's commenting that, you know, there are these countries that

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are that have pretty tight relationships with Russia now around

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being another one of them. They have the missile technology,

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North Korea has the atomic technology. You know, it's not

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hard to see places where these sort of relationships could go,

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especially in relation to those those power brokers that are

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losing their power. You talked about Pete well.

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Speaker 1: In relation to the North Korean troops and Kursk. From

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everything I heard on judgment of Polaitano this week, I

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can't remember if it was mehr Scheimer, if it was Freeman,

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or if it was McGregor. They were saying that they

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were nowhere near cursed. They were saying that they were

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in the east, the far east part of the country.

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Speaker 2: That yes, so far everything i've all the evidence points

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to they have not been deployed in curse. But it

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could be done, and it, you know, should be totally

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fine in terms of its rampifications for uh, you know,

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international relations. But yes, it has as far as I know,

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this has not happened, and it's entirely rumor.

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Speaker 1: Now I would like to remind everybody that, you know,

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what Zach Frisby said here in the chat, no Korean,

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and I will add or Russian has ever called me

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a gooy. So well, I think if any if nobody

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else has anything on Ukraine, Russia and this total debacle,

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two and a half year long debacle, that we're going

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to wrap it up. Anybody got anything, All right, let's

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do it. Let's go around the horn. Charlie, what do

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you got?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we should have the Sacario review coming out

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as a podcast tomorrow on our sub stack. That was

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that was pretty fun, So definitely, you know, if you've

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seen the movie, it was a I think it's an

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enjoyable review. If you haven't seen the movie, I mean,

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it's a total must watch for our guys, So watch

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it tonight and then watch the review tomorrow if you

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haven't seen it. But yeah, that's all I'll show for now.

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Speaker 1: All right, Paul, what do you got?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing an interesting series on Golden Air of Spain

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and the various surrounding threads of history that lead into

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Golden Air of Spain on one Pete Kenyonas's channel, So

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if you all are interested in hearing about that, we

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just recorded an episode I think last night or two

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nights ago, and that will be up soon. So keeping

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keep continue watching that ongoing series and once you're done

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watching the old Glory Club stuff, go watch everything Pete

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has to offer.

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Speaker 1: Well, that'll be coming out on election day, so look

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for that while you're while you're waiting for the polls

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to come in, you can listen to an hour on

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some Golden Age Spain and Michael plug whatever you got.

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Speaker 5: So my podcast is called Coffee and a Mike m

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I k E. You can find that Coffee Atomike dot com, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook.

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Put two episodes up yesterday, one with em Berlin Game.

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Another one was a joint conversation with David Dave Column

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and James Howard Kuntler have had Pete on several times. Tomorrow,

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I'm talking to Anne Vandersteele and hopefully November David Rogers, Web,

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Tom Lawago probably back, Matt Brack, and Michael Yahn. So

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I appreciate you guys inviting me to participate tonight, So

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thank you.

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Speaker 1: I will say this about Mike having someone like myself

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and having dark Enlightenment on, it's huge because he has

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an audience that we wouldn't normally be able to, uh

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to speak to. And just if you go down and

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look at he it's a widespread of people that he

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talks to, probably some of the most diverse, one of

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the most diverse crowds of people he talks to. His

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His podcast is you Never Know who You're gonna get.

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And I think that's great because there's enough podcasts out

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there that are very niche and very concentrated in one

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area and Michael's all over the place. So definitely definitely

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go over and check out coffee and a Mike. And

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that's it for Pony Express Radio. We will see you

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next week. Take care,