1 00:00:22,199 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: And hello, how are you welcome to the Big podcast 2 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,320 on this Thursday. Today is the eighth day of January, 3 00:00:31,359 --> 00:00:35,200 a year of our Lord, twenty twenty six. My name 4 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:42,359 is Tom Sullivan. So we've got Man the I saw 5 00:00:42,399 --> 00:00:45,560 this coming, I mean yesterday, just as we finished, just 6 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,840 before we finished recording the podcast, it came the news 7 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:54,359 about the shooting of the woman in Minneapolis by ice, 8 00:00:55,079 --> 00:00:57,960 and that's pretty much all I knew. I saw a 9 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,600 clip of a video, but it was awfully hard to 10 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:05,760 make any sort of study of what was going on then. 11 00:01:05,799 --> 00:01:10,680 But today Man Alive, the top of the top story 12 00:01:10,799 --> 00:01:16,400 is by clear that shooting of the woman by ice 13 00:01:16,719 --> 00:01:20,319 in Minneapolis. So we've got that. We've got a little 14 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,760 bit of an update on Greenland, there's some movement on that, 15 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,560 a little bit of information about some actually is pretty 16 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,200 interesting information. 17 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: About the whole. 18 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: How's that going to work with Venezuelan oil and we're 19 00:01:35,439 --> 00:01:38,040 going to market it and there we get the money 20 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,599 and then we're going to give the money to them. 21 00:01:41,159 --> 00:01:43,319 So we'll we'll get into all of that as we 22 00:01:43,359 --> 00:01:49,359 go along. But this whole business about the shooting, there's 23 00:01:49,359 --> 00:01:51,439 a number of things to come to mind about this 24 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,599 first of all. In the crowds last night were big 25 00:01:53,599 --> 00:01:55,480 in this morning. They were out there at seven o'clock 26 00:01:55,519 --> 00:02:01,000 in the morning. It's cold in Minneapolis. I understand how, 27 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,959 especially George Floyd. That was late May, if I remember right, 28 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,039 So you had the whole summer with warm evenings, and 29 00:02:09,319 --> 00:02:12,680 warm summer evenings just seem to be part of the 30 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,599 major ingredient when you have protests to turn into riots. 31 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,919 Well when it's sub zero, you would think. But the 32 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,680 people in Minneapolis, they are hardy people. Man, They go on. 33 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,639 They will protest or riot no matter what the temperature is. 34 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:35,599 So big crowds last night, big crowds again today. I 35 00:02:35,599 --> 00:02:38,919 don't know what's going to happen tonight. There were there 36 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:44,120 were some small protests of various cities around the country, 37 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,879 but again it's wintertime and it's not as conducive frequently 38 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,960 go out and protest. But let me let me go 39 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:58,800 over this if I may one of this. This is 40 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,080 one of the tip from Tom. If you want to 41 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:09,319 go to a protest or a riot because it has 42 00:03:09,319 --> 00:03:12,280 something to do, or it might be kind of fun 43 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,639 or I or you're really passionate about whatever the topic is. 44 00:03:17,719 --> 00:03:20,919 Most of the time the crowds are just looking lose 45 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,000 there to see what's going on, and you've got a 46 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,960 small group of people that are really passionate. And my 47 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,479 only point to you is, if you want to go 48 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:34,319 out to a protest or a riot, you are. You 49 00:03:34,439 --> 00:03:37,879 may not think it's dangerous, but I'm telling you it is. 50 00:03:39,039 --> 00:03:42,680 These things can spin out of control so quickly. And 51 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,639 the first lesson that I got on this for those 52 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,240 of you that are old enough to remember Kent State University. 53 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,319 It was a protest against the Vietnam War and students 54 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,719 gathered on Kent State and Ohio and the National Guard 55 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,120 came and they actually armed the National Guard with real 56 00:04:05,159 --> 00:04:08,599 bullets and they shot into the crowded protesters and a 57 00:04:08,719 --> 00:04:13,039 handful of people died. I've seen it over and over 58 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,639 and over again with protests on various topics. It doesn't 59 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:23,600 matter where. Something goes sideways quickly and people get hurt 60 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:27,920 and maybe even die. And that is what happened yesterday. 61 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:35,480 So this woman who got shot, we're now learning that she, uh, well, 62 00:04:35,519 --> 00:04:38,759 we've been reported that she was some sort of leader 63 00:04:38,879 --> 00:04:42,040 of this protest. I don't know if you have a leader, 64 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,560 a formal leader, but there are people that are paid 65 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,519 antagonists to go out and do these sorts of things. 66 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,600 I don't know whether she was paid, but she was 67 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,680 going around to a number of places where ice was 68 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,600 operating yesterday and blocking the road so their vehicles could 69 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,439 not move. She did it at at least two or 70 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,879 three other locations. So by the time she did it 71 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,519 again at that location where the shooting went down, she 72 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:19,040 blocked the road and the police knew who she was, 73 00:05:19,199 --> 00:05:21,639 had seen her at the other locations. They had no 74 00:05:22,519 --> 00:05:24,399 patience with all right, we're not going to go up 75 00:05:24,439 --> 00:05:26,160 and talk to her. We're going to go up and 76 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,920 order her out of her vehicle. Now, that's the other 77 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,720 tip from Tom. If the police order you out of 78 00:05:33,759 --> 00:05:38,160 your vehicle, comply. Every time we have one of these 79 00:05:38,199 --> 00:05:43,040 police shootings, whether it's at a protest or whether no 80 00:05:43,079 --> 00:05:48,000 matter what somebody that the police want to interrogate, that 81 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:55,199 the old adage is just comply. Where you get police 82 00:05:55,199 --> 00:05:58,920 shootings that people get hurt or die is because people 83 00:05:58,959 --> 00:06:01,720 don't comply in it, and it goes downhill very very quick. 84 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,120 So the other thing we've learned about this is that 85 00:06:06,199 --> 00:06:10,839 the officer who did the shooting, he was clearly in 86 00:06:10,879 --> 00:06:14,839 front of the vehicle. Even though he jumped out of 87 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,839 the way, he still got hit by the vehicle, not seriously, 88 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,120 but he was still hit behind a jump. Six months ago, 89 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:29,199 he was involved in another operation where they were trying 90 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,120 to get unarrest going and he had to break the 91 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,319 window back window of the car to open the door 92 00:06:37,319 --> 00:06:39,920 because the guy wind opened the door, and as he 93 00:06:39,959 --> 00:06:41,839 did that, he put his arm in. The guy took 94 00:06:41,879 --> 00:06:46,000 off and he was dragged for over one hundred feet 95 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,160 and his arm severely injured and thirty three stitches on 96 00:06:50,319 --> 00:06:53,240 his leg. So this is a guy who was dragged 97 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:58,000 by a bad guy six months ago. He's back at work, 98 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:04,399 He's pretty sensitive to an automobile coming at him. It 99 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:09,120 just adds to the whole question about this so prior 100 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:18,519 incident where he was injured and that again he didn't know. 101 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,680 I mean, everybody's making, you know, trying to figure this out. 102 00:07:22,879 --> 00:07:25,519 What's happening is people are coming out and saying the 103 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,319 cop was wrong, the ice officer should be tried for 104 00:07:28,439 --> 00:07:30,839 murder or et cetera, et cetera, because they have a 105 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,399 confirmation bias. They don't like ice, they don't like what 106 00:07:34,439 --> 00:07:38,120 they're doing, they don't like police whatever it might be, 107 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,639 but there's a confirmation bias. There's other people looking at 108 00:07:41,639 --> 00:07:44,279 it and going and looks like he did what he 109 00:07:44,439 --> 00:07:50,360 was legally entitled and morally entitled to do. Now, I 110 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,639 don't know if this one will never know because she's dead, 111 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,759 we don't know if she intended to hit him or 112 00:07:55,839 --> 00:07:59,319 she was just trying to flee the officers who were 113 00:07:59,439 --> 00:08:04,720 ordering her out of her vehicle. The other thing about 114 00:08:04,759 --> 00:08:07,680 it is there's more video, tons more video that we 115 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,680 know of, but we haven't seen it. In the passenger seat. 116 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:15,120 When you see the video, all of a sudden, as 117 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,920 she takes off, there's a woman standing there. It's because 118 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,560 the woman was in the passenger seat, and apparently that 119 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:27,399 woman is the victim's wife. She was along for they 120 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,319 dropped off a six year old at a school, but 121 00:08:31,439 --> 00:08:34,360 she was going around to all these various ice locations 122 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,600 and interfering with and stop trying to stop the ice 123 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:43,039 officers from doing their law enforcement work. So out of 124 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,360 this people are jumping to conclusions. I think it's clear 125 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:54,200 to me that he had reasonable grounds to think that 126 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,000 she was trying to ram him. This will be a 127 00:08:58,039 --> 00:09:01,879 federal case, not a state case. Although Governor Wallace is 128 00:09:01,879 --> 00:09:05,159 already crying about the fact that the state is not 129 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,919 going to be able to do a prosecution the federal 130 00:09:07,919 --> 00:09:13,159 officer doing federal law enforcement, and that goes to a 131 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,919 federal court. So we'll see how that whole thing works out. 132 00:09:17,799 --> 00:09:19,960 But the other part about speaking of the governor and 133 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,799 also the mayor of Minneapolis, you talk about the rhetoric 134 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,559 about how much they hate Ice. They want them out 135 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,720 of there, they want them effing out of there. They're 136 00:09:32,759 --> 00:09:38,840 really stirring up the hatred, and wall says, we want, 137 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,320 we want everybody to protest peacefully, but I'll tell you what, 138 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,440 there's no good sobs. And then he goes on talking 139 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:51,200 about how terrible they are. So the idea of use 140 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:57,080 to force, excessive use of force by police is there's 141 00:09:57,799 --> 00:10:01,879 the law books have, the court records are littered with 142 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,039 all kinds of cases, and each one individually has to 143 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:11,960 be examined. I'm telling you, looking at this, I thought 144 00:10:12,039 --> 00:10:14,679 the officer was pretty pretty quick with his gun, but 145 00:10:14,799 --> 00:10:17,240 he had every right to if he thought that she 146 00:10:17,399 --> 00:10:21,960 was trying to run him down. I will criticize the 147 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:27,039 officer for two things. One was and he's apparently an 148 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,840 experienced officer. One was what was he doing standing in 149 00:10:31,879 --> 00:10:36,639 front of the vehicle. You don't do that. You got 150 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,240 to be aware of your situational awareness. You just don't 151 00:10:40,279 --> 00:10:43,600 put yourself in a position where that could happen. You 152 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:50,039 don't know what the driver's going to do. And secondly, uh, 153 00:10:50,639 --> 00:10:54,600 there was a real close crossfire going on there. What 154 00:10:54,639 --> 00:10:58,679 I mean by that is you don't shoot in the 155 00:10:58,799 --> 00:11:05,039 direction of your fellow police officers. And there were two, 156 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:11,360 maybe three ICE officers right next to where he shot at. 157 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,879 They were right next to her door and he's shooting it. 158 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,360 He could have easily hit them. So I'm going I 159 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:24,039 don't know about the guy's police tactics. He might want 160 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,399 to be retrained, and I'm sure he will be, but 161 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,919 I don't think he's going to be. I'll be surprised, hey, 162 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,159 if there's even an indictment, and I'll be shocked if 163 00:11:34,159 --> 00:11:36,840 there's any sort of conviction if there is an indictment. 164 00:11:37,639 --> 00:11:43,279 So you go to a protest, a riot, be prepared 165 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,360 that something may happen to you, and don't cry about 166 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:51,559 it if it does. The police in this case, ice officers, 167 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,480 I think it's a legitimate discussion to say how are 168 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,840 they going about their job. I know there's part of 169 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,519 it where they're trying to be very public. They're trying 170 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,960 to send messages basically to illegals that we're coming after you, 171 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,120 and so they're not afraid of going out there and 172 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:18,159 getting people and making it very public. But if I know, 173 00:12:18,879 --> 00:12:21,559 I suspect the reason why they have this big, large 174 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:26,600 contingent of ICE officers in Minneapolis is because I suspect 175 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:32,240 there's a large contingent of illegals in the sanctuary city 176 00:12:32,279 --> 00:12:35,919 of Minneapolis. And that's the other point. This is what 177 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:41,000 really irritates me, the mayor and the governor talking about, Oh, 178 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,399 you guys are supposed to be in here doing things 179 00:12:43,399 --> 00:12:46,559 that are for safety of the people, and you're making 180 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:50,200 it worse. Well, actually, all you have to do, governor 181 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:55,879 or mayor is just drop your sanctuary status and allow 182 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:01,039 the ICE officers to come into your jails and pick 183 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,519 up the illegals that have committed a crime that your 184 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:09,159 police officers have arrested, turn them over to Ice. Everything 185 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,080 would go very quietly and they would be deported. But 186 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,879 you're going to this is the sanctuary status is going 187 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:23,039 to put a fight between Ice and local authorities. And 188 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,840 there's part of me that thinks that Governor Waltz and 189 00:13:27,879 --> 00:13:34,200 Mayor Fry actually kind of seem to be enjoying all 190 00:13:34,279 --> 00:13:39,200 the chaos that they have created in Minneapolis. I think 191 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,039 they'll like it. I think they miss it from five 192 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,080 years ago with the George Floyd incident. 193 00:13:45,879 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: So it's there's a lot. 194 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: I don't think anything. I mean, this will die down eventually. 195 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,559 But if I was running ICE, I would also try 196 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,360 to do it more stratigue. Instead of doing a big 197 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,919 show and doing the big bravado thing, I would do 198 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,879 it very quietly. I would do it as quiet as 199 00:14:10,919 --> 00:14:14,279 I possibly could. Just that way, you can, basically if 200 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,720 you will, sneak up on the people that you're trying 201 00:14:16,759 --> 00:14:21,440 to arrest and they won't be looking for you. So 202 00:14:22,679 --> 00:14:29,679 where do we start today? John Miller, former NYPD's get 203 00:14:29,759 --> 00:14:30,879 his observation. 204 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,639 Speaker 3: The clues for this were yesterday when the Secretary of 205 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,720 Homeland Security was asked, are we going to maybe curtail 206 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,759 or draw back some of the ICE operations in Minneapolis 207 00:14:41,799 --> 00:14:44,840 given the shooting and the tensions around it, and she said, no, 208 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,039 we have agents out there right now. We're going to 209 00:14:47,039 --> 00:14:51,039 continue our operations now it's important to understand the math here. 210 00:14:51,759 --> 00:14:54,440 Minneapolis the last time I checked, had about seven hundred 211 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,600 police officers. There's two thousand ICE agents on the ground 212 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,440 and the biggest operation they have ever launched according to 213 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:06,559 the federal government in that city. Tensions obviously shot up 214 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,759 overnight around this shooting and remain tense today. The idea 215 00:15:11,799 --> 00:15:14,120 that there are literally more federal agents out in the 216 00:15:14,159 --> 00:15:18,879 street continuing operations that any one of which could go 217 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,399 sideways in some manner that could add to these tensions, 218 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,080 along with the idea that those operations are being managed 219 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,279 partly out of this building. So what we're seeing today 220 00:15:29,399 --> 00:15:33,200 is the Border Patrol, who is really the only element 221 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:38,320 among ICE and CBP that has crowd control training, usually 222 00:15:38,399 --> 00:15:42,039 gets the front line on these facilities where they have 223 00:15:42,159 --> 00:15:44,600 to find where their vehicles are going to be coming 224 00:15:44,679 --> 00:15:47,600 in and out of some of those vehicles with prisoners, 225 00:15:48,559 --> 00:15:52,600 some of those vehicles with agents, these caravans, and we 226 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:54,879 saw this a moment ago, which is what started all 227 00:15:54,919 --> 00:15:58,240 of the contratempts on the ground here. When the vehicles 228 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,240 come in, the crowd tries to block the g the 229 00:16:00,279 --> 00:16:05,759 agents move forward, they unleash their pepper bowl sprays, pepper spray, 230 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,759 caiene spray, and the pushing and shoving starts till they 231 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:13,320 get the vehicles in, then they draw back. In this case, 232 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,399 we saw those tensions spill over. We saw an individual 233 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,200 who was being arrested. We don't know why did he 234 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:21,840 throw a snowball? Did they want him for something else? 235 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,679 Then we saw the process of what we call de arresting, 236 00:16:24,799 --> 00:16:27,399 people trying to pull that person away, which resulted in 237 00:16:27,799 --> 00:16:30,879 it appeared one of them being arrested as well. So 238 00:16:31,639 --> 00:16:35,279 we can predict if these operations are to continue on 239 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,679 this scale, that these vehicles will continue to come and 240 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,240 go from facilities like this, that these confrontations will likely 241 00:16:42,279 --> 00:16:46,159 continue throughout the day and the tensions may continue to rise. 242 00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:51,519 You know, their main function is to be the and 243 00:16:51,639 --> 00:16:54,600 we see a car moving, here, be the force at 244 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,159 that gate that allows their vehicles to get in and out. 245 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,399 And we've seen this play out. We saw a lot 246 00:17:00,399 --> 00:17:03,000 of this in Chicago. We first saw this in la 247 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,960 when they called in the national guard. And you know, 248 00:17:06,039 --> 00:17:09,599 you have the governor who said yesterday his national guard 249 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,519 is on standby to come in if they're needed. But 250 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:19,319 he reminded people that's Minnesota's National Guard, Who are you know, 251 00:17:19,559 --> 00:17:23,839 working for the people. We also saw in prior incidents 252 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,079 where in Los Angeles in particular, where the White House 253 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:31,799 and the Pentagon sent in National Guard from other states, 254 00:17:32,519 --> 00:17:36,000 in one case, the Marines to guard these federal buildings 255 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,319 and facilitate the passage of these operations. Why are we 256 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,880 having a demonstration at seven o'clock in the morning that's 257 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,160 running through eight thirty when those things usually occur later 258 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,759 in the day. The protesters wanted to be at this 259 00:17:47,839 --> 00:17:51,680 facility because they know the vehicles launched for their operations 260 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,559 in the morning and return with those arrests, and they 261 00:17:54,599 --> 00:17:57,759 wanted to as a form of protest, tried to block 262 00:17:57,799 --> 00:18:01,400 those or interfere with those. And now we're the class 263 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:02,440 that comes from that. 264 00:18:03,279 --> 00:18:05,759 Speaker 1: I kind of smirked a little bit when he mentioned 265 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,599 that Governor Walls has the National Guard to be able 266 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,400 to call in if he needs them. Wals didn't call 267 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:17,000 in the National Guard when Minneapolis was burning. It burned 268 00:18:17,039 --> 00:18:21,240 to the crown. The police. There's a precinct in Minneapolis 269 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,640 that still is just nothing but ash. They never rebuilt 270 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,400 the thing. But he didn't call the National Guard until 271 00:18:27,799 --> 00:18:33,079 the riots were three days into rioting in Minneapolis back 272 00:18:33,319 --> 00:18:38,039 in two thousand and what was it, twenty twenty, and 273 00:18:38,759 --> 00:18:42,480 he's not going to call him now, that's just not him. 274 00:18:42,519 --> 00:18:48,160 He's very I'm so glad that he's not our vice president. 275 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,960 He's very weak, very weak leader. Anyway, the other part 276 00:18:52,039 --> 00:18:55,000 that John was talking about was the President sending the 277 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,359 National Guarden from other states. The Supreme Court just last 278 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,000 week said you can't do that, so that's kind of 279 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,839 off the table. But meantime, the governor and the mayor 280 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,960 very very tough rhetoric about they want the ice out, 281 00:19:11,039 --> 00:19:16,880 they're the enemy, we don't want them. It's very inflammatory language. 282 00:19:17,079 --> 00:19:22,279 Speaker 3: It certainly has the potential to accelerate this kind of 283 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,559 encounter and these kinds of clashes, and what you will 284 00:19:26,599 --> 00:19:30,160 see is two different things. If this continues to escalate, 285 00:19:30,759 --> 00:19:35,200 the federal government will send in more resources if this continues, 286 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,720 but also do not be surprised, as we learned from 287 00:19:38,799 --> 00:19:42,640 George Floyd, as we learned from Ferguson, that protesters and 288 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,559 activists from other cities will flood into Minneapolis to say, 289 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,359 this has become the battleground of this issue. When you 290 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,920 think about the position it puts Minneapolis, the city in 291 00:19:55,519 --> 00:19:57,480 we don't have to go over the history of George 292 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,400 Floyd or the loss of relations between the city and 293 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,759 law enforcement in the community, that the five years it 294 00:20:03,799 --> 00:20:08,119 took to rebuild those to get tensions down to a 295 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,839 place where the police had dialogue across the community. Brian O'Hara, 296 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,359 the police chief, talks about all the work that's going 297 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,759 into that. You will note that the federal agents their 298 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,920 body armor says police on the back of it. I 299 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,920 mean technically they're not police, their law enforcement and their 300 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,759 federal agents, but they wear that. That is one of 301 00:20:27,839 --> 00:20:31,599 the things that paints with that broad brush among protesters 302 00:20:31,599 --> 00:20:33,680 who say I don't care if you're the Minneapolis police 303 00:20:33,799 --> 00:20:38,079 or these Green police were against the police. So one 304 00:20:38,079 --> 00:20:40,240 of the things that the city is concerned. You really 305 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,480 got this from the mayor yesterday in his comments, was 306 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,359 you know, we don't want to be dragged backwards by 307 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:53,519 these operations which are targeted politically according to him, according 308 00:20:53,599 --> 00:20:56,440 to others, targeted only at democratic cities and so on. 309 00:20:57,039 --> 00:20:59,720 So this is a thing where what do you not 310 00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:03,599 say here you don't see Minneapolis police. They are trying 311 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,519 to keep their distance from these ice operations. To show 312 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,160 we don't do immigration enforcement, we don't do purely civil 313 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,720 immigration matters. But you're going to likely see them at 314 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,599 some point, as we did yesterday, because after things get 315 00:21:19,599 --> 00:21:22,759 out of control, who is the neutral party? Who are 316 00:21:22,839 --> 00:21:26,079 who is going to separate you know, the ICE officers 317 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,799 from the crowds and so on. Difficult call for them. 318 00:21:29,839 --> 00:21:32,559 We saw this happen in Los Angeles, and you know, 319 00:21:32,599 --> 00:21:36,480 we saw them become really immeshed with the with the 320 00:21:36,519 --> 00:21:38,240 operations against the protesters. 321 00:21:38,519 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: Okay, so we'll see how this, how this if it 322 00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:44,920 boils up, or whether it starts to tame down. But 323 00:21:45,759 --> 00:21:50,039 again ICE is there in big numbers and they are 324 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,599 absolutely sure that they're going to continue their efforts. Todd Lyons, 325 00:21:55,079 --> 00:21:58,160 who's the acting director of ICE, says we're not going anywhere. 326 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,319 Speaker 2: Heyl Grissina. Yeah, no, ICE is doing our law enforced submission. 327 00:22:01,559 --> 00:22:04,720 We took a pause yesterday afternoon after that deadly shooting, 328 00:22:04,759 --> 00:22:07,279 an incident, to check on our staff and our officers 329 00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:09,119 in the scene, make sure everything was secure. But we were 330 00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:11,680 back in the fight that's lost more than an hour later, 331 00:22:11,759 --> 00:22:14,880 so we continued operations in Minnesota. We're there today. We're 332 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,839 still conducting operations, our daily law enforced submission, and all 333 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,480 fifty states and territories right now, so we're going to 334 00:22:21,559 --> 00:22:25,359 keep doing the work. So we've put more resources there, 335 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,640 not only to address the ongoing fraud investigation, which is 336 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,279 extremely important. I think Americans people want to know exactly 337 00:22:31,279 --> 00:22:33,960 what happened with that money, but also for the large 338 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,599 amount of criminally legal aliens that are in Minnesota. We 339 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,440 have the most largest contingent we ever had in an 340 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,079 ICE operation out there right now, and I think the 341 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,279 numbers speak for themselves. You know, you can see just yesterday, 342 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,880 even though we had that incident, we're still arresting more 343 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,920 and more people. Because sanctuary jurisdictions are like a magnet. 344 00:22:54,039 --> 00:22:57,640 It brings these illegal aliens to an area that they 345 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,839 know they can hide in plain sight. And that's why 346 00:22:59,839 --> 00:23:02,440 we have to be up there. If central jurisdictions worked 347 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,200 with US and turned over criminal legal aliens and a 348 00:23:05,279 --> 00:23:07,640 timely fashion or when they know that they're a public 349 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,920 safety threat, we wouldn't have to be out of the street. 350 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,480 I would much rather have my men and women of 351 00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:15,880 ICE and are the federal partners take custody these individuals 352 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,160 inside a controlled safe environment not have to go out 353 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,200 there and deal with the people like you're seeing right now. 354 00:23:21,759 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: Now this makes no sense. I mean, I know it's 355 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,880 a political ideology, but it just seems somewhat safer for everybody. 356 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,599 They If the Minneapolis police have arrested various people for crimes, 357 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,759 then people seem to agree on let's get rid of 358 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,839 illegals that are in this country committing crimes, and they're 359 00:23:44,839 --> 00:23:49,079 in the Minneapolis jail. Why can't the Minneapolis police call 360 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,599 up Ice and have them come over and meet them 361 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,680 in the jail, take custody of the people and deport them. 362 00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:59,480 This none of this would go on, and that lady 363 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,599 would still be alive. However, there are people with different 364 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,759 thoughts on this. One of them who I think is 365 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:12,519 just a certifiable goofball is Eric Swalwell, congressman from the 366 00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:16,960 San Francisco Bay area, and well this is how he 367 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:19,480 reacted to the story of this Ice shooting. 368 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 2: We have to stop this. 369 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,319 Speaker 4: No one asked for this, and of course this is 370 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,400 where it was always going to end up. When you 371 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,039 put masked thugs, unidentified into our communities, of course, horrible 372 00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:33,799 things are going to happen. And now people feel like 373 00:24:34,279 --> 00:24:36,960 you're probably lucky if all that happens as you're thrown 374 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,880 into a van that's unidentified, or you're grabbed by your 375 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,400 hair and dragged through the streets. But this started with 376 00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:46,000 Ice chasing people through the fields where they worked, and 377 00:24:46,039 --> 00:24:48,880 then they deported a US citizen four year old and 378 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,880 battling stage four cancer. And then they started pulling people 379 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,759 out of their homes. And today we have found ICE 380 00:24:55,839 --> 00:24:59,640 to have shot a mom in the face three times. 381 00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:01,640 Here's that's what we can do. Because we're not helpless, 382 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,960 and people may feel helpless, we're not helpless, and tell 383 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,680 your leaders they're not helpless. We can strip them of 384 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,640 their immunity and I'm working on doing that in Congress. 385 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,440 We can make sure that when we seek to fund them, 386 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,400 we don't fund mass and we don't fund them being unidentified. 387 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:18,640 We also can make sure that local prosecutors and attorneys 388 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,200 general across the country, particularly in blue states, use your 389 00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:25,480 law enforcement authorities. If they're going to falsely imprison people, 390 00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:30,240 kidnap people, assault people, commit battery, and now murder, prosecute them. 391 00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:32,680 They only understand one language. It's either us and the 392 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,519 most vulnerable in our communities on our heels or them 393 00:25:35,839 --> 00:25:37,839 on their heels. That's the only way to approach this 394 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,720 is to be on offense. 395 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,319 Speaker 1: You could hear the hatred he has. He really hates 396 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,480 ICE and everything about them. They are a law enforcement agency, 397 00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:52,839 Swalwell says, he's pro police. No, these are police officers 398 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:58,640 and they're enforcing the law. And if the reason why 399 00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:02,319 prosecutors aren't excusing them is because they're doing it legally. 400 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,200 Have there been a smattering of cases where they've gone 401 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,200 to court and the court has ruled against him, Yes, 402 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,640 that's the way it should be. But the heavy, heavy 403 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,279 majority of this is all going according to the law. 404 00:26:18,519 --> 00:26:24,079 But Swalwell has such hatred for law enforcement and for 405 00:26:24,319 --> 00:26:28,880 ICE he wants to go after them using the big 406 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,759 foot of Congress. Here's another guy that was out this 407 00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:37,519 morning in the snow, standing there protesting across the street 408 00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:42,200 from the Federal building then Minneapolis. He's just crazy. 409 00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:44,519 Speaker 5: Listen, I mean, how do you feel about what's going 410 00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:45,799 on here in Minnesota. 411 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,079 Speaker 6: I'm very sad, But I'll tell you what I think 412 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,079 that President Trump and I saw I think this is 413 00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:56,799 President Trump is a Russian. I think he's a Russian 414 00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:59,960 asset and he's ripping our country apart. He's tearing us apart. 415 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,720 And these people in Minnesota, people with brown skin and 416 00:27:04,759 --> 00:27:08,359 brown eyes, they're doing our work. They're hardworking people, they're 417 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,559 making trying to make a living for their families. 418 00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 5: They're doing the work that nobody else will do. 419 00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:13,599 Speaker 7: Thank you. 420 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: So you hear some of the achieser, Yeah, we got 421 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,640 to move on. So it's Trump's fault. Of course, it's 422 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,079 Trump's fault. The thing about though, I wish they would 423 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,759 do a better job of publicizing the people that they 424 00:27:24,799 --> 00:27:28,359 are arresting. They arrested a guy in Minneapolis yesterday that 425 00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:36,039 is a child molester, multiple child molestations, and so I 426 00:27:36,079 --> 00:27:41,119 guess this guy wants child molesters to stay in Minneapolis. 427 00:27:42,079 --> 00:27:47,799 The governor there, Walls, is now claiming that he's issued 428 00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:51,359 a warning order to the Minnesota National Guard. He got 429 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,160 so much grief over not calling the National Guard when 430 00:27:55,160 --> 00:28:00,640 the city was burning in twenty twenty that, well, I'm 431 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,640 not actually calling him. I've issued a warning order to them. 432 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,119 I don't have the kahunas to actually order them into 433 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,400 controlling the riot or the protest or whatever they want 434 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,319 to call it. He's such a weak guy, such a 435 00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:20,319 weak guy, but he keeps and he says he's also 436 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:25,680 not using any sort of adversarial language. He's full of it. Absolutely, 437 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,000 he's not as bad as s wallwell, but he's in 438 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,440 that same paragraph, no question about it. So back to 439 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,559 the shooting itself. Like I said when we started the 440 00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:39,240 podcast today, everybody has an opinion. Everybody has seen the tape. 441 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,079 You've seen one tape. Apparently there's many more to come. 442 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:50,039 But this is fascinating to see how both sides. By 443 00:28:50,079 --> 00:28:52,240 the way, I think I'm not a big fan of 444 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,279 Christinome and she's out there declaring that this woman was 445 00:28:56,319 --> 00:29:03,079 a what was a domestic terrorist? And National Review wrote 446 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:06,759 a piece today. Andy McCarthy wrote a piece saying, don't 447 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,799 throw around the term terrorist so loosely. There's a definition 448 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,200 for it. So she is getting that's her. She likes 449 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,359 to do the bravado dress up and have a dress 450 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,759 up event every single day. She's very performative. But she's 451 00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:26,440 not as bad as again the people like the mayor 452 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,519 and the governor. But Elliott Williams, who is a lawyer, 453 00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:36,200 former federal prosecutor, that haven't we learned anything about rushing 454 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:36,799 to judgment? 455 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 5: You absolutely cannot We not learned anything in the last 456 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,119 decade of trying to unpack whether police involves shootings or 457 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,640 even individual ones between people. There are a host of 458 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,720 complicated questions over the reasonableness of the fear of the 459 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,079 person shooting in an action that certainly can't be unpacked 460 00:29:54,119 --> 00:29:56,880 from looking at a video. I will say, setting aside 461 00:29:57,119 --> 00:29:59,000 sort of a nonsense that came from the Secretary of 462 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,400 Homeland Security today or yesterday, the smartest comments I think 463 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,960 came from Tom Homan. The borders are for the White House, 464 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,000 who is known as a you know, somewhat of a 465 00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:11,400 hardliner on immigration, and somebody I worked with four years 466 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,039 at ICE. Tom was clear that we can't rush to 467 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,920 judgment when looking at a video. Why because he's actually 468 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,200 a law enforcement officer and did this for decades and 469 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,440 years and knows that it is incredibly risky on either 470 00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:27,039 side to look at a video and try to unpack 471 00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:28,839 it as if we really really just. 472 00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: Have people making all kinds of claims about what that 473 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,240 they know exactly what happened by one video. And Elliott's right. 474 00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:38,319 I mean, it doesn't matter whether it's Governor Waltz or 475 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:45,039 Christy Nome. Stop with it, and two a couple of 476 00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:49,400 law enforcement officers, chiefs of police. They're saying this, this 477 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,039 is going to take an investigation, then we'll have answers. 478 00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 7: I do that, Well, I think that is a question 479 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:02,200 that ultimately must be answered through a third and complete investigation. 480 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,920 And that's why I think we owe it not just 481 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,079 to the deceased and her family, but also to the 482 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,559 larger community to ensure that number one, we maintained that 483 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,920 scene yesterday so that it could be processed and that 484 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,039 we can allow a full investigation to follow the evidence 485 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:27,400 to all of its logical conclusion. That being said, in 486 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,640 law enforcement professionally, it is very concerning when we have 487 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:38,200 officers that are placed into situations which may result in 488 00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:41,200 the use of deadly force, and we must ensure that 489 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,680 our officers are doing everything possible to avoid placing officers' 490 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,279 lives in jeopardy unnecessarily and trying to de escalate whenever possible. 491 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: Well, the officer that did the shooting had a millisecond 492 00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:57,799 to make a decision is this part trying to run 493 00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:01,440 me over? And if so, I've got to fire at him. 494 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,680 It was literally a millisecond. As far as the investigation, 495 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,880 I think I know where it's going to go. I'm 496 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,559 not trying to make a conclusion out at Hal's. I'll 497 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,680 let them do their investigation, but that a lot of 498 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:19,200 that is for public pr if you will, to make 499 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,839 the public happy. But again, I'll be surprised if this 500 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,960 guy is indicted for anything carry or bond Washington lawyer, 501 00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:34,079 this is her assessment that of whether or not he's 502 00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:36,559 going to face criminal indictments. 503 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 8: Well, I think what's particularly important about the facts, and 504 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,839 with respect to what Christino I'm saying, is this woman 505 00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:45,000 appears to have been in the process of committing crimes. 506 00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:49,039 Right She's impeding law enforcement, she's stopping traffic. These are 507 00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:52,480 all criminal offenses. So why does that matter? Because if 508 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,359 you're a law enforcement officer and you're approaching someone or 509 00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:57,880 dealing with someone who is already in the process of 510 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,039 committing crimes, what's going to happen. Your suspicion is going 511 00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:03,359 to go up, and you're going to become extra concerned 512 00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:06,000 that this person is capable of something else. Why does 513 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,160 that matter? Because of perspective and when this is being 514 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,160 investigated and ultimately going to the courts, they're going to 515 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,359 look at if an officer on the scene, on the scene, 516 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,359 not the armchair quarterbacks, not hindsight, but on the scene, 517 00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:22,839 had reasonable belief that he or she or others were 518 00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:26,680 in harm or in threat of serious harm or possible death. 519 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,119 And so this all comes into play when the court 520 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,079 examines all of the circumstances that led to the use 521 00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:36,559 of deadly force. Right, Well, again it comes down to 522 00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:38,680 the perspective of the officer on the scene. Right you 523 00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:40,279 have to look at it through the lens of the 524 00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:42,279 person who's stopping, and of course the person who's in 525 00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:44,480 front of the car, who sees the car coming towards 526 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,799 them and is maybe not aware of what's going on 527 00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:48,440 on the other side of the car. And we've all 528 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,400 watched the videos and we can see that part of it. 529 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,480 And so again it really matters what has happened. Then, 530 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,440 certainly in the hours proceeding at Bill it does matter. 531 00:33:57,839 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: And you know, the. 532 00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 8: Courts have upheld that even an in perfect decision, if 533 00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:04,559 made in extreme danger, can be lawful. 534 00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: So hopefully things settle down quickly in Minneapolis and Ice 535 00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:11,960 can do their job and leave and go someplace else. 536 00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:15,880 They'll always be there. Like todd Lyon says They've been 537 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,639 there for decades, so it's not like this is something new. 538 00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:24,719 They have an office there. We've got Greenland again. Question 539 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,400 of we already have this is where I scratch my head. 540 00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:33,639 We already have the authority from an agreement from nineteen 541 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,039 fifty one to do as much military work in Greenland 542 00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:42,639 as we want to do. Build bases, build military establishments, 543 00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:45,639 build air fields, whatever we want to do. It's already 544 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:47,440 been agreed to. So I don't know what all the 545 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:52,280 fuss is about. As far as Venezuela goes and controlling 546 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,000 the oil, we're getting more information about that as well 547 00:34:56,599 --> 00:35:00,280 that we will do the marketing, they will do the 548 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,760 work on getting the oil out of the ground. Whether 549 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,199 oil companies from the US are going to invest a 550 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,079 dime will wait and see. I'm sure they're interested, But 551 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,760 what the terms are is going to determine all of 552 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,199 all of that, and then we will take the money 553 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,599 and supposedly put in US banks and then send money 554 00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:24,800 to Venezuela. We don't know how much. I don't know 555 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,639 how the Venezuelans are going to think about that. You 556 00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:31,840 can see that they're probably pretty happy that Maduro's gone 557 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,440 and if money's invested back into the communities. I would 558 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,239 think the Venezuelan people would be very supportive all of that. 559 00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:45,840 What else do we owe? The President wants to ban 560 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:52,280 large investors from buying single family homes. He's trying to 561 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,280 make it so that they don't ace out the couple 562 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,079 that wants to buy a home here in the US 563 00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:00,679 and all of a sudden, some big corporation comes in 564 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,719 and buys up the home and they're not able to 565 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,719 afford it. I don't know if that's legally possible, because 566 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,400 investors have freedom of speech just like individuals do. So 567 00:36:13,159 --> 00:36:16,519 we'll see what comes out of all of that. As 568 00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:19,960 far as Wall Street goes, looks like we are starting 569 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,880 the year off with a little bit of a roller coaster, 570 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,440 way up, then way down, then back up higher again. 571 00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:30,239 Today Dow Jones Industrial is up two hundred and seventy 572 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,199 or forty nine thousand and two sixty six. The S 573 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,639 and P up just part of a point. Nasdaq fell 574 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,639 one hundred and four, so a mixed market. The price 575 00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:44,559 of gold up twenty dollars to four thousand and four 576 00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:48,239 to eighty three, and a big jump for oil today 577 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,400 up to almost three dollars to fifty just under fifty 578 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,639 nine dollars now for one barrel of oil. That's it 579 00:36:56,679 --> 00:36:59,639 for today. Thank you for coming by. We'll be back 580 00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:04,039 again tomorrow. Tomorrow's Friday. We've got the big jobs report 581 00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:06,559 in the morning, so we will talk about that and 582 00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:11,519 hope to see you them