WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:10.119 Welcome back to the Game Informer Show Everyone, a weekly 2 00:00:10.240 --> 00:00:13.720 podcast covering the video game industry. Join us every Friday 3 00:00:13.720 --> 00:00:17.320 for discussion of the latest gaming news, reviews, and exclusive reveals, 4 00:00:17.320 --> 00:00:20.399 alongside Game and Former staff and special guests from around 5 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:23.559 the industry. I'm one of your hosts today Alex van Aiken, 6 00:00:23.640 --> 00:00:27.320 and today I'm joined by Charles Hart. How you doing Charles? 7 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:29.839 Hello, doing really quick? And I'm doing really good? Then 8 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:32.560 that was my Charles gamer done quick intro? 9 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:37.679 Ah, Yes, Hello, Marcus Stewart, how are you y'all? 10 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:40.799 I'd be here to sale the podcast sees. 11 00:00:42.920 --> 00:00:52.960 Also joining us is Eric van Allen, Hello, Hi, And 12 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:57.320 rounding us out this week is Wesley LeBlanc. How you 13 00:00:57.399 --> 00:00:57.799 doing well? 14 00:00:57.840 --> 00:01:01.200 Hey, doing good? Excited to talk? Ocreen of Time. 15 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:06.840 Hell yeah, We're gonna be getting into our games done quick. 16 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:11.120 We said we would acknowledge it. We're getting into our 17 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:14.920 games done quick today? Are we visited games done quick? 18 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:15.840 Uh? 19 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:17.920 Ockeren of Time, We're gonna Wess has played it for 20 00:01:17.920 --> 00:01:20.560 the first time in twenty years. You can't make that 21 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:21.159 face what. 22 00:01:22.599 --> 00:01:25.280 He's uh. 23 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:27.840 We're also gonna be getting into our Assassin's Creed Black 24 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:33.760 Flagged Recinct impressions, talking about Don't Let It Starve, a 25 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:39.840 Bento Box style roguelike where you're trying to make food 26 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:42.079 for a monster that you're trapped in a room with, 27 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:44.799 and finally rounding out the show, we'll talk about cat 28 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:48.640 Mail Company, little new indie game that looks cool. 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Thank you for being 60 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:24.000 here and listening to us and being part of our community. 61 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:28.039 With that said, guys, let's get into the show proper. 62 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:32.080 Eric and I, we've been We're in Minneapolis, that's where 63 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:36.719 we reside, which is where summer Games Done Quick usually 64 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:40.159 takes place, and this year's no different. Eric and I 65 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:43.680 and friend of the show John Carson, we went down 66 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:48.759 to ye Old Hilton in downtown Minneapolis to check out 67 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:52.000 Summer Games Done Quick on the first day. I don't know, Eric, 68 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:54.319 if you have been back. It's of course it runs 69 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:57.280 for a whole week, but it's the world's biggest speed 70 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:01.319 running event Games Done Quick. They have two sort of 71 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:04.919 primary versions that play out during the year, and I 72 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:07.199 think they are also like popping up at their packs 73 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:11.680 is now they're at I think Games Calm, but Summer 74 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:14.800 Games I'm Quick is one of their like flagship events. 75 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:17.360 I know there were some world records set this week 76 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:21.439 on things like UFO fifty. I believe we saw when 77 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:25.079 we first went. Eric and I saw, Actually I want 78 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:28.879 to hear Eric's perspective because this is his first Summer 79 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:32.000 Games I'm Quick in person. And Eric, you've been watching 80 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:33.720 this show for like fifteen years. 81 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:38.399 Jon's yeah, yeah, yeah. I think even before a lot 82 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:42.399 of my games media aspirations or anything started, this was 83 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:44.920 still something I would tune into because it's just a 84 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:48.079 really cool event. They do stuff for charity. They always 85 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:51.319 raise money for charity. They show off really cool strats 86 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:56.439 and ways of playing games at a rapid pace or 87 00:04:56.600 --> 00:04:59.519 in interesting challenges or ways of doing things even just 88 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:03.720 showcase high level gameplay in games you wouldn't normally expect 89 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:06.240 to see them in some of the rhythm games and 90 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:08.399 stuff that they've been doing recently. The showcases have been 91 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:11.879 really exciting to watch, showing off TAZ stuff, which is 92 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:16.079 tool assisted speed run, so you're using you're literally programming 93 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:20.879 a computer to play a game arguably better than a 94 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:24.360 human theoretically could, and then seeing what you can do 95 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:26.879 when you take the human part of the equation out 96 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:32.120 and start implementing things that only a program could accomplish. 97 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:37.160 It's a really incredible event that that runs twenty four 98 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:39.120 hours a day for an entire week, and yeah, this 99 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:41.120 is my first time seeing it in person. So when 100 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:43.920 we went on Sunday, which was the kickoff day, I 101 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:45.879 knew obviously I wanted to get in. 102 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:46.519 I want to see a. 103 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:50.839 Run, and we lucked out with our timing because the 104 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:54.040 run that we showed up as it was starting as 105 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:57.399 we got there, Fire Emblem three houses. They did the 106 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:02.199 Blue Lions route. Fire Emblem my favorite series and I 107 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:05.600 really love watching Fire Emblem runs, So getting to see 108 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:09.279 kind of the closing half hour of that runs as 109 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:12.879 we got in and got settled was really awesome, and 110 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:14.839 I think all of. 111 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:15.879 That was veriddy. 112 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:18.680 I was, I was electric. 113 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:22.360 I was just excited to be there because I think 114 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:25.279 the if you watch it on stream, you kind of 115 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:29.759 see a very contained part of what that thing is. 116 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:31.839 And I would say something that impressed me about Games 117 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:35.920 Done Quick is that it is so centered on the 118 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:39.839 streaming and the stream room and the charity event as 119 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:44.839 like the focus of what everything orbits around it is 120 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:49.600 all about that. But you know, I was wondering, Okay, 121 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:52.399 so who shows up to this then to watch a 122 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:54.680 stream in a ballroom for an entire week? 123 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:55.600 And what do you do there? 124 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:58.639 And the answer is that you could absolutely go watch 125 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:01.199 a stream in a ballroom for an entire week, But 126 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:04.920 there's so many things that are happening around and outside it. 127 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:08.399 There's an entire artist's alley where they have a ton 128 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:10.639 of local artists were there on the day that we 129 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:15.040 were there, showing their wares, talking to people. They have 130 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:18.399 an arcade that is just open twenty four to seven 131 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:23.839 with tons of arcade machines, I mean pinball machines, some 132 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:26.199 candy cabs with some fighting games on them. You have 133 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:29.319 like the big rhythm games, the ones that look like 134 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:31.480 the laundry machines were in there and stuff like that. 135 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:36.879 Some DDR machines and stuff just always open, always available, 136 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:37.480 free play. 137 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:38.319 Go down there. 138 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:41.839 There's a music room that just has music equipment in it. 139 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:45.360 You can bring your guitars, your keyboards, your drums or 140 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:47.639 whatever and just set up and play in there as 141 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:50.800 like a jam session area. Yeah, there are panels that 142 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:51.519 happen and there. 143 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:52.199 Are people in there. 144 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:55.600 Yeah, yeah, there are panels ring what's like. 145 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:59.399 Other Sorry that feels out of place to me, right, 146 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:00.279 was it not weird? 147 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:01.360 That's what that. 148 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:03.399 There's just like a gam These events are as usually 149 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:07.439 a big like especially like video game music and like 150 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:10.120 places like MAGFest and that kind of Yeah, usually like 151 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:12.560 a big music scene as well. 152 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:14.920 I mean it's really cool. 153 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:16.959 It's just part of all of it because I think 154 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:20.120 it emphasizes that, you know, there's there's a board game area, 155 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:22.160 there's there's places to do magic. We're probably going to 156 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:25.199 do a magic draft in a couple of days down 157 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:28.920 there as well, and like probably signed I'm going, yeah, okay, 158 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:31.439 we've put the money in, we are going to do it. 159 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:36.120 But uh, it is it is a community. It is 160 00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:40.200 a group that definitely has speed running at the center 161 00:08:40.279 --> 00:08:42.399 of it as the sort of thing that all of 162 00:08:42.440 --> 00:08:46.159 this orbits around. But you don't have to be a 163 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:49.759 speed runner to go to games done Quick. You don't 164 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:54.519 have to be somebody who is competitive or plays the 165 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:57.679 most recent games or plays like the top speed running games. 166 00:08:57.679 --> 00:09:00.320 You have to be like a super metroid competitive, top 167 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:03.080 one hundred liter board runner or anything like that. This 168 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:06.120 is a place where people have a common vested interest 169 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:10.960 in the cool things that GDQ does, and the community 170 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:13.840 that is around it a very inclusive community, a very 171 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:17.759 diverse community that has just a very open door for 172 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:21.679 anybody who is just interested and wants to do something 173 00:09:21.720 --> 00:09:24.080 cool and do something awesome. And I think that was 174 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:27.960 something that I really enjoyed as somebody who's gone to 175 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:30.840 a lot of different convention experiences over the years, ranging 176 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:34.320 from E three to packs to stuff like the PlayStation 177 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.480 Experience and all that. A lot of those, you know, 178 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:42.039 even stuff like EVO and the International for DODA, all 179 00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:43.679 of them are cool, but they kind of have a 180 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:47.440 like there is going to be some degree of focus 181 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:54.759 on the industry, on the product, on the thing at 182 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:57.000 the center, you know. I think the one I kept 183 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:59.399 thinking of as I was there was. I went to 184 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:02.559 one of the open weekend Overwatch League matches back in 185 00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:06.159 the day and it was cool, but I kept thinking, 186 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:08.960 the only thing you can really do here is show up, 187 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:15.200 watch some Overwatch by some merch leave and GDQ feels 188 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:18.279 so much more focused on we want to support a 189 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:20.799 community here. We want to build and foster a community. 190 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:22.639 We want this to be a place that people can 191 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:26.759 gather meet like minded individuals. There were people just hanging 192 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:31.080 out talking in different parts of the hotel, going between places. 193 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:33.759 I love that they said that in the rooms in 194 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:36.480 the hotel they just have a feed, So if you 195 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:39.120 are staying in the hotel for GDQ, you don't even 196 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:41.480 have to go through Okay, I got to figure out 197 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:43.759 like YouTube on the TV and stuff like that and 198 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:46.840 get that there's just a feed broadcasting to all the 199 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:50.279 hotel rooms that is live, and so a lot of 200 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:52.879 the people working the show can know that. So that 201 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:54.679 way they know, like, oh, I have to I can 202 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:56.200 take a nap in my room real quick and then 203 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:57.840 wake up and you know, halfway through this run, I 204 00:10:57.840 --> 00:10:59.039 know I need to get back down there from a 205 00:10:59.080 --> 00:10:59.919 next shift or whatever. 206 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:00.399 Uh. 207 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:05.559 It's it's just such a cool experience and it just runs. 208 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:10.159 There's there's so much that feels like like a clockwork 209 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:15.759 machine of production and things moving behind the scenes and 210 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:19.200 then front facing, all these community aspects that just make it. 211 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:22.279 It's a wonderful experience. I really think if you watch GDQ, 212 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:25.559 if you enjoy watching these streams, I've been fully went 213 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:28.000 over to the side that you should. You should take 214 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:30.200 some time someday to come out to one of these. 215 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:34.399 They're pretty incredible. Were there any other you mentioned? Were 216 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:36.399 there any other speed runs that you guys saw that 217 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:41.879 most impressed yours was heyp We spent most of Sunday, 218 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:45.200 the one day that we've been so far, just doing 219 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:47.679 the stuff that was around the side, doing stuff in 220 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:49.600 the side rooms, the community stuff and all that. 221 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:51.600 I think. 222 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:53.320 I am your Beast. 223 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:54.600 Yeah, we did watch some. 224 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:58.120 Of Your Beast as well, which had Zolivir the developer, 225 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:01.120 like sitting in on the call, which is pretty fun. 226 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:06.480 Today I'm specifically heading down there because I want to 227 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:11.200 see the there's a Mario and Luigi brotherhood, like like 228 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:14.320 a Kaiso thing that has been made. I love Mario 229 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:20.159 Kaiso run Kaiso is super difficult Mario, like like taking 230 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:26.679 Mario mechanics to their furthest end really really mechanically precise 231 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:29.759 platforming that that demands a lot of the player but 232 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:31.879 turns into a really fun challenge thing. If you've ever 233 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:34.879 watched like high level Mario Maker levels, you kind of 234 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:37.759 have an idea of what Kaizo usually looks like. But 235 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:43.600 there's a Kaiso run followed by a WEE Sports speed 236 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:47.519 run and I I can't miss that. I gotta see 237 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:51.000 we Sports get speed run. That sounds great. Speed run 238 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:54.519 we Sports, like you just go through each. 239 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:57.679 Game, you just roll the ball and belt really quickly. 240 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:01.200 There's there's probably some twist to it, for sure. 241 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:05.519 Yeah, of looking at a GDQ schedule and just being like, 242 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:08.440 I don't know how they could speed run this, and 243 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:11.039 every time I tune in, I'm like, oh, that's how 244 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:13.200 they figured. Like maybe it's like, oh, we got to 245 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:15.879 get like, you know, perfect metals on five games as 246 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:18.559 fast as possible, right, And it's always like it starts 247 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:22.679 as soon as the cursor reappears after the loading screen, 248 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:24.080 because that's when the input starts. 249 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:25.600 Like, it's always always very specific. 250 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:28.360 When I was some of my favorite runs have been 251 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.279 some of like the there's been a lot of randomizers 252 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:36.039 getting added now of things where games are so not 253 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:39.960 necessarily completely solved but understood by the community so well 254 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:43.039 that now you add in these factors of Okay, well, 255 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:45.159 now you're going to get power ups, but you're going 256 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:46.879 to get them out of order. So when you open 257 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:49.320 this treasure chest that would normally maybe give you a 258 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:52.080 key or you know, an important item like the hook 259 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:54.720 shot and a Zelda game or something like that, it's 260 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:57.639 just going to randomly give you an item that could 261 00:13:57.679 --> 00:13:59.320 come out of a treasure chest, so you could just 262 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:02.399 get rupees instead. And you're like, okay, well I don't 263 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:05.360 have the hook shot that I need to proceed, So 264 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:06.799 what am I going to do now? How do I 265 00:14:06.879 --> 00:14:11.080 rout myself differently? And there's some randomizer runs this week. 266 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:13.480 I also love bingo battles. I don't know if there 267 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:16.320 are any of those this week, because a bingo battle 268 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:19.279 is you literally have a bingo board of things that 269 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:21.279 you can do in a game. They're really popular fronts 270 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:25.559 from soft style games like Elder stuff like that sounds familiar, yeah, 271 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:28.559 And and so it'll say like you have to kill 272 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:31.000 a boss with a certain weapon or you have to 273 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:34.080 go beat this boss like beat Millennia or something like that, 274 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:36.799 and that's one of the bingo spaces, and you are 275 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:39.480 trying to get a bingo, but only one person can 276 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:41.840 claim each space, so there's kind of like a fight 277 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:44.200 happening where you're trying to get your own bingo and 278 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:46.120 lock out somebody else's bingo as well. 279 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:53.080 Yeah, I'm I'm excited to go back this week. I 280 00:14:53.159 --> 00:14:54.879 that Mario Kaizo run sounds fun. 281 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:56.399 I seen those. 282 00:14:56.519 --> 00:15:00.360 I've never seen one of those in person, watch it 283 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:02.519 online and I think it was like one of the 284 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:07.360 Mario maker Kaiso runs. Yes, and the energy just even 285 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:10.879 like hanging out in discord of friends watching those things 286 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:16.840 is really tangible and so I can't imagine what it's 287 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:17.639 gonna be like in person. 288 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:18.080 I want to. 289 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:19.200 I want to try to check that out. 290 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:23.240 And they support Incredible Causes a GDQ which is the 291 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:25.559 one that happens in the winter Awesome Games Done Quick, 292 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:30.320 which is kind of the original. The base one supports 293 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:33.960 the Prevent Cancer Foundation. This one in the summer SGDQ 294 00:15:34.159 --> 00:15:38.120 supports UH Doctors Without Borders, which is I think just 295 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:42.200 it's it's an amazing cause and amazing charity. And when 296 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:44.000 I went there, they had a bunch of signage up 297 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:47.080 people like reps hanging out who were happy to talk 298 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:51.960 about MSF. The actual name is Medicines Soun's Frontiers, but 299 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:55.759 happy to talk about Doctors without Borders. And they also 300 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:59.200 apparently have a collab going with One Piece, So they 301 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:02.559 have Tony Tony Chopper out there in like a cardboard 302 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:05.240 cutout holding a flag, and it's like Tony Tony Choppers 303 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:10.000 supports Doctors without Borders, and I'm like, that's awesome. That's 304 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:13.639 my goat, right there is Tony Tony Chopper West. 305 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:15.080 I know you're a big pirate. Are you a one 306 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:15.639 Piece guy? 307 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:21.279 I have slowly watched some of One Piece, but it 308 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:25.200 is just such a garganguine task that I'm assuming I'm 309 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:26.679 just gonna be watching it the rest of my life. 310 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:30.879 I'm or, is what the pirate guy? 311 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:36.320 Yeah? I don't know what makes you say that they're cool? Okay, cool? 312 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:38.799 I mean the second I mean, Pirates of the Caribbean. 313 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:41.279 Dead Man's Chest came out on my birthday, which is 314 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:47.399 pretty cool. But yeah, I mean, you know, Nights Ninjas Pirates, 315 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:49.919 some cowboys. I like all that kind of stuff. I 316 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:52.039 gause pirates are cool too, you're. 317 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:55.440 Like the four Pillars of fiction and stories. There were 318 00:16:55.480 --> 00:16:57.879 definitely more four things from the nineties that list. 319 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:02.840 Well, Wes, I do want to go ahead and throw 320 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:07.200 it over to you. You've been playing a game that 321 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:12.039 a lot of us have played, but it's your first 322 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:13.480 replay in twenty years. 323 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:18.960 I've actually never beaten this game. Don't tell Yeah, that's crazy. 324 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:22.559 You've been playing Akarina of Time. Well, I never had 325 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:25.039 money as a kid to buy games. We had only 326 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:27.200 afford to rent it, and I wasn't smart enough to 327 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:29.720 beat to beat Akorina of Time in like two days 328 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:32.519 or whatever the rental was, so I would just restart 329 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:33.240 it every time. 330 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:35.599 I don't think it's an intelligence thing. I don't. I 331 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:38.519 just that just is not enough time to Yeah. 332 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:44.359 Yeah, but I used to try to, Like I was 333 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:49.440 like when you first meet Epona. I like was convinced 334 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:51.359 I could get her off the farm while she was 335 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:54.799 a child horse. So I would just waste like, you know, 336 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:59.960 two hours of my rental trying to you know, escape things. 337 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:01.240 Yeah. 338 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:05.319 I watched and they beat Operative Time in like twenty minutes, 339 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:12.319 so I don't really know. Yeah, yeah, but you went 340 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:17.519 back to Okarina. I want to know why, how you 341 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:21.319 enjoyed it, and more importantly, what you played it on. 342 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:27.200 Yeah, so why. I'd been kind of like toying with 343 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:29.519 the idea of playing one, and then the Oquerreina of 344 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:34.200 Time remake got announced and people were like theory crafting 345 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:36.319 and talking about this or that, and I was like, 346 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:39.000 I don't know what. I don't know anything they're talking about, Like, 347 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:41.519 I don't know this game anymore, really, like it's just 348 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:42.759 a game that I'm like, Yeah, I played as a 349 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:44.880 kid and it's you know, one of the goats, but 350 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:48.960 I don't actually have knowledge of it anymore. So I 351 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:50.960 was like, I want to go back and refresh myself 352 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:53.519 on that. Another part of the reason why I wanted 353 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:55.640 to replay is because I have an ain Thor device, 354 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:57.720 a y n Thor. I don't know what the help 355 00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:00.960 people were saying it, so I use a realm of 356 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:05.039 legend Elda ochrena Time three D that I own, and 357 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:08.359 I programmed it into my Thor. Legally, I owned that 358 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:13.960 rom and I downloaded a four K texture pack community 359 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:16.279 made was not did not cost any money, so it 360 00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:20.240 was like a super beautiful way to play this classic game. 361 00:19:20.839 --> 00:19:24.960 There's also a playing remake. You said, right, yes, yeah. 362 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:29.200 The a Y and Thor device is a Android based 363 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:36.839 three DS device basically Kyle two O lead screens. Yeah, yes, yes, yeah. Weirdly, 364 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:40.039 me and Kyle DM on Blue Sky exclusively to talk 365 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:42.000 about Thor. I don't know why, Like we don't talk 366 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:43.839 in slack, we don't do anything. It's just for some reason. 367 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:47.640 The Blue Sky DMS is where that happens. So, yes, 368 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:50.799 he is a Thor owner. Love the device. I constantly 369 00:19:50.839 --> 00:19:53.519 sing its praises. It's expensive, but it's has been worth 370 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:56.319 it for me so far. And yeah, so I was like, 371 00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:59.359 this would be a perfect game to play on the Thor, 372 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:03.359 and so I it up and now like surprisingly, like 373 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:06.680 thirty two hours later, I have the nock gre enough 374 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:12.559 time and it's kind of weird. I have issues with 375 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:16.279 it now, I have, Like in twenty twenty six, I'm like, yo, 376 00:20:16.559 --> 00:20:19.559 they I'm more excited for the remake, I should say, 377 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:22.079 because I am hoping this is like a capcom style 378 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:24.680 remake and not what we just saw with Starfox. I 379 00:20:24.680 --> 00:20:26.079 don't think that's going to be the case. I do 380 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:27.359 think it's just gonna be a one to one with 381 00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:30.920 prettier graphics. But I think that Ock Green of Time 382 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:36.480 could use a lot of recontextualization and like reimagining in 383 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:38.759 the vein of something Capcom would do with Resident Evil. 384 00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:40.759 I don't know if this needs to go like Square 385 00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:44.200 Nix Final Fantasy remake style, but I do think that 386 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:49.960 making it more modern and analyzing what maybe isn't working 387 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:53.519 all these years later, and like fixing it or changing 388 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:55.799 it to feel better in twenty twenty six would be 389 00:20:55.799 --> 00:21:00.839 really smart, because frankly, there's some dungeons that I mean, honest, 390 00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:02.839 there's a lot that is just not as. 391 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:04.640 Yeah, I was gonna ask like, what are your what 392 00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:07.960 are your specific qualms? What do you think specifically doesn't 393 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:08.799 necessarily work? 394 00:21:09.640 --> 00:21:13.279 I think the most immediate thing is the combat is 395 00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:15.079 I mean, you know, it's a thirty year old game 396 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:18.839 or whatever, and or is it older than that. I 397 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:19.839 might be older than that. I don't know. 398 00:21:19.920 --> 00:21:20.880 It's a old of the data. 399 00:21:21.640 --> 00:21:24.759 Yeah, no, it's it's okay, so. 400 00:21:24.880 --> 00:21:28.160 Yeah ish, So it's you know, it is a product 401 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:29.920 of its time in a way. But that doesn't mean 402 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:31.920 I can't like judge it in twenty twenty six through 403 00:21:31.960 --> 00:21:34.400 my twenty twenty six eyes, Like the combat is basic 404 00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:36.599 and born, I'm doing it. 405 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:38.519 I'm doing it. 406 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:43.400 I'm doing it, stomping on them. Yeah, I am. Actually, 407 00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:45.160 that was like kind of my goal going into this 408 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:48.440 was I really wanted to like remove the nostalgia and 409 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:51.160 the like just saying it's the greatest game of all time, 410 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:53.720 because that's what you say, and that's what you've been 411 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:56.559 saying for three I wanted to analyze that. I don't either. 412 00:21:56.599 --> 00:22:01.279 That's Funnel Fantasy thirteen obviously, but uh. 413 00:22:01.400 --> 00:22:08.440 Deeply serious person West West stressed up for this. He's 414 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:15.200 he's looking. Yeah, he's got his okerina. Yes, that's outfit shaved. 415 00:22:16.839 --> 00:22:18.519 This is why I'm only on the podcast like every 416 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:18.960 eight weeks. 417 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:19.559 They only. 418 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:25.960 But no, the combat immediately is just so boring and 419 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:29.400 it doesn't go anywhere, Like there's no growth in the combat. 420 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:32.519 And yes, you get more tools, but ultimately you don't 421 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:35.839 need those tools to get through Ockerina of time. And 422 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:40.079 like Gin's fire for example, there's like two spots where 423 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:42.000 that's required. That's your magic spell that does like a 424 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:47.160 big fireball, but ultimately it has an annoyingly long like 425 00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:49.440 little mini animation that plays when you do it. It 426 00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:52.559 takes a lot of magic and like just pressing BE 427 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:55.279 to attack these people with your sword is ten times faster. 428 00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:58.200 Like there's no there's a lot of tools, but there's 429 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:01.000 nothing in the game that's like saying, use these tools 430 00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:04.680 to get through combat encounters, like ultimately, just press B 431 00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:06.440 and you're just you're fine. 432 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:09.480 I feel like I forget that magic is even in 433 00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:15.039 that game, because other Zelda games definitely have magic more 434 00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:18.720 front facing, and in that game, I remember using it, 435 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:22.240 like you said, maybe a couple of times for each 436 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:25.000 one of the spells you get or whatever, you get 437 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:27.799 one for each of the three. I forget what they 438 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:31.559 they are the elemental yeah, not the stages. Sages are 439 00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:35.119 different because the stages are the people who are like 440 00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:38.279 in charge of the difference, because there's like the Sage 441 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:40.319 of Time right in the stage of the Forest and 442 00:23:40.359 --> 00:23:47.799 all that who's it's it's red, Green, Blue, it's r 443 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:55.000 GB whatever at those three and yeah, yeah, I think 444 00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:56.640 you get a spell for each of them, and I 445 00:23:56.680 --> 00:23:59.440 cannot remember what they do or why the. 446 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:03.920 Greens nless you teleport back like a shield, yes, and 447 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:06.240 the dense fire is an attack right, Yeah, so I 448 00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:08.680 think I only ever used the teleport one unless like 449 00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:11.480 this story made you use a different one at some point. 450 00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:15.559 The teleport one is probably most helpful. I will say 451 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:17.720 something really cool about the thores. You can do like 452 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:21.440 safe states. So that was my method for you know, 453 00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:27.799 traversing around faster and kind of made the Green Magic useless. 454 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:30.440 But like the combat is, I don't want to say 455 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:33.079 it's like bad, It's not bad, it's just it's aged. 456 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:35.680 Like if if the combat doesn't, if it get changed 457 00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:39.039 for twenty twenty six, it will be a very boring game. 458 00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:42.640 I think because combat has advanced a lot in three decades, 459 00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:46.759 and even Zelda itself has advanced a lot. I think 460 00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:49.880 that's probably my biggest takeaway is like how far Zelda 461 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:53.720 has come from Acarina. And I'm not sure if Akarina 462 00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:56.319 is like it doesn't sit on the podium as the 463 00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:58.400 best Zelda game for me personally, and I kind of 464 00:24:58.440 --> 00:25:00.200 knew that going in, Like I had a feeling the 465 00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:05.079 Wild was still my number one, but like it has 466 00:25:05.119 --> 00:25:07.119 a lot to learn from Zelden. I really hope Nintendo 467 00:25:08.039 --> 00:25:11.079 does look at what it's done since Ocarina to adjust 468 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:16.400 Ocarina dungeon design. I mean the water temple obviously is 469 00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:18.960 you know, people, that's the one people go to and 470 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:21.000 like it is still very the most frustrating of the 471 00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:25.880 dungeons to go through as an adult, it was a 472 00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:26.759 little bit easier. 473 00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:27.839 Yeah. 474 00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:30.799 Yeah, the three D s version is a little more uh. 475 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:33.759 It kind of gives you more signs of what to do. 476 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:37.599 The original version is just like screw you figured out, well. 477 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:39.400 You also have to keep going in and out of 478 00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:41.759 your menu to equip the iron boots. The three D 479 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:43.599 version that was just on in the touch Oh. 480 00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:45.400 My god, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, that's 481 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:47.680 something they got to do with this switch to remake 482 00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:48.880 is a single screen. 483 00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:55.000 Oh wow, that plays as the menu pans from side, Like, 484 00:25:55.119 --> 00:25:55.880 that's just lodging. 485 00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:01.119 I just make that a week, you know, just make 486 00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:01.599 that an item. 487 00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:03.319 Yeah, they'll probably will do something. 488 00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:05.640 You know, they're going to be like hold the R 489 00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:06.319 button and. 490 00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:09.240 Have it and they'll scroll through or thirty items. 491 00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:11.039 Yeah, the way they have all the ruins. 492 00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:15.559 But yeah, even like some of the other temples, I 493 00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:18.640 will say, the Temple of Time is still a blast. 494 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:22.920 The Temple of what's the for the Forest Temple, I 495 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:25.640 don't know the official name for it, but the Forest Temple. 496 00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:29.400 Temple of Time is not a dungeon. 497 00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:35.559 No, it's not a temple of Time is the I 498 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:37.480 should have written all this stuff down, I was. I 499 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.799 played a lot while watching TV in theah. Was the 500 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:44.240 first spirit temple is? 501 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:45.640 No? 502 00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:48.880 The one I'm thinking of is the second to last one. 503 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:51.839 If you don't if Gannon's Castle is the last dungeon, 504 00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:54.039 it's the one before that with the in the desert, 505 00:26:54.839 --> 00:26:57.480 that is the Spirit Temple. Yeah, okay, okay, yes, Spirit 506 00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:00.000 Temple still rules. First Temple in the forest still rules. 507 00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:03.799 Of the other temples. They need a lot of work. 508 00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:07.200 In my opinion, it's not like this is a bad game. 509 00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:10.759 It's just I think playing Okarina really showed its age, 510 00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:14.079 like it has completely aged. Every aspect of it has aged, 511 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:18.000 even I don't know now, I'm just kind of dog 512 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:18.319 in the game. 513 00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:20.480 But like I don't even know. 514 00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:22.559 I don't even know why Gannon is like such a big, 515 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:25.160 like big deal because of this game I played, Like 516 00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:27.519 Gannon's in like a cut scene he steals Zelda and 517 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:29.279 then he shows up and you're like, this is. 518 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:30.200 The worst guy. 519 00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:35.640 Yeah, yes, yes, yes, and yeah the comments are going 520 00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:38.759 to be brutal on this one. And he's just like 521 00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:40.440 Wes what were you saying? 522 00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:42.240 You were saying the soundtracks sucks. 523 00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.880 Also, soundtrack still rip, soundtrack still rips. 524 00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:47.400 Ye. 525 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:52.000 Yes, I will say the Ocarina is very annoying to 526 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:57.480 work with and do and saying I'm telling you, I'm 527 00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:58.480 telling you you have to. 528 00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:02.079 It's just it's cool. It's cool the first time. 529 00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:04.160 It's cool the first time, it's cool the second time, 530 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:07.720 maybe the third time. But like it gets boring quick 531 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:10.440 and it's silly, and I'm like, and I get that. 532 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:13.480 There was like this childlike excitement and joy that comes 533 00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:15.599 with getting a new game and learning all these things. 534 00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:19.559 Like I was, yes, it needs I need. 535 00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:25.200 Baby on subway surfers on the top screen. 536 00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:28.839 Yes. Only more offensive thing you could say is actually 537 00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:30.640 he's not so bad. I don't know why people were. 538 00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:33.799 That's actually one of the points I have to make. 539 00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:36.720 What West had Zelda on the top screen of the 540 00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:39.119 A Y N or subway surfers on the bottom screen, 541 00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:43.880 and then was watching Family Guy. 542 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:51.240 It's my favorite. I also feel like I want to 543 00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:53.440 mention Wes volunteered to talk. 544 00:28:53.240 --> 00:29:01.119 About beats up. Just go for it, like nobody forced 545 00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:02.960 this out of him. 546 00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:06.319 I'm happy to do. So here's the thing we got. 547 00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:08.799 People just say his games the greatest of all time, 548 00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:10.720 and then they haven't played it since they were a child, 549 00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:13.000 and they just stick by it. And I'm here to 550 00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:16.480 come and break those expectations and shatter those dreams. Like, 551 00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:19.759 I think there's a lot of good that can be 552 00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:21.960 done by going back and playing the games you think 553 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.599 are your favorite games of all time, and like actually 554 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:28.559 analyzing and figuring out if it still works in twenty 555 00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:32.000 twenty six. And I think Ocarina still definitely works in 556 00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:36.279 twenty twenty six, But like, is it anywhere near as 557 00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:38.799 great as that I thought it once was? No, I 558 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:41.319 don't think so at all. And I think it's maybe 559 00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:44.759 I'm more excited for the remake because it could resurrect 560 00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:48.079 what Ocarina once was for me, But like, if it's 561 00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:50.119 a one to one of what I just played, then 562 00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:54.839 I don't know. Okarina has fallen great heights from the 563 00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:56.640 sky islands of Tiers of the Kingdom and. 564 00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:59.759 Hey, you remember a blue sky like a month ago? 565 00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:01.839 When you're like, we should people should tell me when 566 00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:04.240 I'm dumb more often, Yeah. 567 00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:04.480 I do. 568 00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:07.519 Wow, That's what I'm out here trying to do that 569 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:09.400 For some reason. 570 00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:11.240 I mean, I feel like everything you're saying West is 571 00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:12.640 probably what I g im he is. 572 00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:17.440 That's the guy who's never made it past de Tree, 573 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.200 like Gum was playing revisiting this game and going through 574 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:24.799 the same process in his mind, like, man, everything is garbage. 575 00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:26.480 What were we thinking back then? This is so much 576 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.960 better garbagemaking game going, guys, We need to get this going, 577 00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:31.759 like Jesus. 578 00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.319 I mean, remaking a game is and and is in 579 00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:38.720 essence admitting that, like there is work you could do. Obviously, 580 00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:41.079 they remake games because of business and because of marketing. 581 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:47.400 There's that is. 582 00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:50.559 I don't know. I think remaking is it is a 583 00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:53.759 chance for developers to their works. 584 00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:54.599 I think it's both. 585 00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:58.240 It is, but like nobody is going back and remaking 586 00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:02.240 very very few people are going back and remaking bad games, 587 00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.160 like ten years from now. I don't think we're getting 588 00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:06.640 more of the Rings Gollum remake like that. 589 00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:07.799 I think that's happened. 590 00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.960 No, No, you made you you make a remake because 591 00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:14.559 you already know that the name is going to sell 592 00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.599 millions of copies alone. But I think there are developers 593 00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:19.839 out there who do shoeing remakes, and I think they're 594 00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:23.319 developers out there who put a lot of work into like, uh, 595 00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:26.440 taking a new look at what they have previously done 596 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.359 and changing and adjusting and seeing what they can do 597 00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:31.960 different and new. Like there are good remakes and bad 598 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:33.039 remakes for sure. 599 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:38.039 Yeah, so are you a Majora's Mask guy? I do? 600 00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:41.799 I do? I do remember liking Majors Mask more than Akarina. 601 00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:43.920 That's probably next on my list. 602 00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:47.000 Yeah, you got to catch. 603 00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:50.000 I don't know, It's not what I think about often. 604 00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:52.680 I'm not like the biggest Zelda guy in the world. Like, 605 00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:55.200 this is just me doing some homework ahead of the remake. 606 00:31:57.279 --> 00:31:59.119 When was the last time you guys have played Acarina? Like, 607 00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:00.759 or where do you guys even hold Akarina? 608 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.599 And you're middle middle of the pack for me, Like 609 00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:06.880 my my favorites are like Links Awakening and Breath of 610 00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:08.920 the Wild, Like those two are kind of up there 611 00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:11.039 in the stratosphere. And I've never played majoras though I 612 00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:15.079 think I would probably like it. But like Okerina, I think, 613 00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:17.839 even when I was younger, was always kind of middle 614 00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:20.119 of the pack for me because I thought it was 615 00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:22.240 a really cool game and it has really cool moments 616 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.680 I love. Like, yeah, like we said, the music. I 617 00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:28.440 think the atmosphere, especially as adult link, gets really cool 618 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:30.799 and there's some cool stuff they do with that. But 619 00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:34.839 I'm also of the opinion that I don't know why 620 00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:39.759 we're doing this remake when Ocarina is. I mean, I mean, 621 00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:42.799 to your point, there might be things that have aged 622 00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:46.359 about it, but it's a very accessible game nowadays. It's 623 00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:49.039 very easy to go play Okerina of Time right now, 624 00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:53.200 so it feels that it is a little superfluous as 625 00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:56.119 a remake to like I can just go play the original, 626 00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:58.400 So they would have to do something that's pretty radical 627 00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:00.680 to this game to make me feel like a remake 628 00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:03.519 was not just trying to cash in on the Zelda name. 629 00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:07.599 I mean, I'm I'm you know, we're having fun making 630 00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.440 funny of view Wes, but like I'm in a similar 631 00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:12.799 boat where you where, Like I'm kind of in the 632 00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.559 middle of Like I played Okering in this day. I 633 00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:17.400 remember when it came out, but I did not grow 634 00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:19.440 up in an N sixty four, so I only ever 635 00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:21.839 played at friend's houses. I was a PlayStation kid at 636 00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:25.000 that that generation, so I only ever my memories of 637 00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:28.599 playing it innsday are largely that opening Cacareco Village section, 638 00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:30.839 because I just didn't have enough time to like dig 639 00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:32.480 into the game when you're just over there for like 640 00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:35.559 an hour or whatever. And I didn't play it from 641 00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:38.480 start to finish until I was in college, and it 642 00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:40.960 was the original in sixty four version too, so I 643 00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:44.119 had this sort of more like academic appreciation for it. 644 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:47.160 But by that point I already beaten modern three D 645 00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:49.519 z eldas like Twilight Princess and Scotland Story by that 646 00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:52.319 point and other two D zelda, so it was more like, Okay, 647 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:54.160 I can finally go back and play the one that 648 00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:57.720 I touched but everyone like loves and finish it and go, oh, 649 00:33:57.799 --> 00:33:59.279 yeah that was cool. I still had fun with this, 650 00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:02.039 but kind of like being like, yeah, this is you know, 651 00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:04.559 this is of its age. And that was when the 652 00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:07.039 game was I think the series was probably approaching his 653 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:10.440 twentieth anniversary at that point, so you know, I can't 654 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:12.760 imagine playing the original ver or I guess you played 655 00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:16.159 the three DS version playing it now, So it's like 656 00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:18.239 in the maybe middle of the package, just because I 657 00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:19.920 just don't have the nostalgia for it, but I can 658 00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:22.880 still appreciate it, so I'm amaged it in the remake 659 00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:27.079 because it's old enough to if they wanted to do 660 00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:30.119 a larger overhaul besides a graphical improvement, I would actually 661 00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:31.920 really like to see that because I think the game 662 00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:35.719 is great, great in terms of like the story, the structure, 663 00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:37.840 the dungeons and stuff like. There's a lot of great 664 00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.239 stuff there that I would love to see spruced up 665 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.800 in like a modernized way. So I'm actually really excited 666 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.320 for The Ockerring to remake, and I have not I've 667 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:47.559 only ever beaten a game once, and I was the 668 00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:50.719 College Run, so my memory of it isn't as strong 669 00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:54.800 as other people's, so it'll be sort of like semi 670 00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:56.119 fresh for me in some way. 671 00:34:56.920 --> 00:34:59.480 Yeah, I think there will be a lot of Oh, sorry, Charles. 672 00:34:59.280 --> 00:34:59.760 You can go ahead. 673 00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:02.800 I was gonna say, I weirdly do have a lot 674 00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:05.679 of installser for this game. It's uncharacteristic for a game 675 00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:07.360 of this age because I played it on the we 676 00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:09.719 virtual console as like a ten year old. This was 677 00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:13.039 like the first Zelda game that I like really actually played, 678 00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:15.079 so you actually, like you were ten, you were able 679 00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:17.360 to kind of I was the correct age. And I 680 00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:20.239 think that's like if if you're like a parent and 681 00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:22.719 you're like, this game is really important to me in 682 00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:24.679 my childhood, and I want my kid to like it. 683 00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:26.840 I feel like the only chance you have of someone 684 00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:29.800 like really appreciating something old is literally playing it before 685 00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:31.880 they play the new stuff to like when you just 686 00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:34.880 don't have a sense of like quality of life stuff that. 687 00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:36.440 Could exist at the time. 688 00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:40.119 Everyone's always like we were playing a Star Fox sixty 689 00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:43.920 four on the Switch online with Marcus and Brian was 690 00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:46.480 like this looked so good back in the day, and 691 00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:47.000 I'm like. 692 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:49.079 I can't I can't fathom. It's so ugly. 693 00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:52.400 It's clearly so so old, and it doesn't look like 694 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:54.719 anything's happened. He's like, this intro' is iconic. I'm like 695 00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:56.159 four ships kind of. 696 00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:59.760 Floating in there. He really was stopping on on Brian's 697 00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:00.840 this Alga glasses. 698 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:03.119 I was, but it is a thing of like if 699 00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:05.079 it is literally the first thing you play like, it's 700 00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:07.519 a it's a good game in a void, and that's 701 00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:09.679 why people like it at the time. But if you played, 702 00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:13.480 if you played like my fiance is a much newer gamer. 703 00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:15.480 She's played Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom, 704 00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:19.000 I can't imagine her having patients for original opera of time. 705 00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:22.920 There there is stuff that has aged better than you 706 00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:25.920 think it has. Like I played Chrono Trigger for the 707 00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:28.960 first time a couple of years ago, and Chrono Trigger 708 00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:33.400 holds up crazy well, like in ways that I was 709 00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:36.079 sitting there going they did this on a Super Nintendo 710 00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:41.119 that's insane. I do think it might be in that 711 00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:45.960 weird era of they are jumping to three D animation, 712 00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:49.599 they're jumping to polygons and things like that, that things 713 00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:52.559 just kind of changed and there's kind of a weird 714 00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:55.360 you see the age a little bit more, you see 715 00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:57.239 the cracks a little bit more. 716 00:36:57.639 --> 00:36:59.840 I mean that generation in general, like that PS one 717 00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:02.239 is sixty four generation, the first three D generation. That 718 00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:04.320 is by far the hardest generation to go back to 719 00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:07.719 for those exact reasons. It's when everyone was still figuring 720 00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:10.719 out how we make worlds in a three D space? 721 00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:12.800 How do we make characters move around? What do camera? 722 00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:17.679 What are camera controls? Yeah? Camera controls are a huge one. Yeah. Yeah. 723 00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:22.039 Ultimately, like to echo what you guys are saying, like Akarina, 724 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.400 what still works in a Karina is the atmosphere is, 725 00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:27.360 the story is the tone, like is all the peripheral 726 00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:29.960 stuff happening, but hands on sticks like hands on a 727 00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:34.199 controller is where Akarina shows its age, not a surprise, 728 00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:36.960 and like that that was my biggest takeaway with it, 729 00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:40.079 was like, yeah, that these the the atmosphere still works 730 00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:42.599 like these the music obviously still hits, Like I still 731 00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:45.920 enjoyed the transformation from like young League to old link 732 00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:48.239 and our adult link and seeing that happen and seeing 733 00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:50.800 how high rules change. 734 00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:54.960 But like playing. 735 00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:56.760 The game, it was like a different experience, an eye 736 00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:59.360 opening experience where I was like, oh, there is still 737 00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:01.559 work to be done, Like there is work they can 738 00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:03.840 do in the remake to impress me. It doesn't A 739 00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:07.840 one to one would probably actually be disappointing. Like I 740 00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:12.239 do think that this remake is an opportunity to to 741 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:16.519 make what once was is again. I don't even know 742 00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:19.480 if that just made sense, but like they have the 743 00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:22.239 opportunity to make what maybe that game felt like and 744 00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:24.760 played like to us before. We have all this knowledge 745 00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:28.119 that we have now fresh and real and new and 746 00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:29.960 modern again at night, and like that's what I hope, 747 00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.280 and it's like a part of the reason why I 748 00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:35.679 have been Like why I replayed it and have been 749 00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:40.079 analyzing it is because like I feel like the owkering 750 00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:43.800 of time remake reviews are already written, like I know 751 00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:45.320 what they're going to say. I know what so many 752 00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:48.039 of them are going to say. I know how so 753 00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:50.400 many how the game has touched so many lives, and 754 00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:52.840 how it's so important and how like this and that, 755 00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:55.440 and like for me, I don't know, I'm just not 756 00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:58.960 really interested in that review like I want to. I 757 00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:01.960 don't want review of your nostalgia. I want a review 758 00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:05.320 of like what this game is today. And in order 759 00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:07.519 for me to do that, not that I'm reviewing this 760 00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:09.559 game for g I necessarily I don't. We don't know 761 00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:12.039 who is. But like, in order for me to like 762 00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:15.119 go back and and and analyze what this remake is, 763 00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:18.800 I felt a need to like re experience that game 764 00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:20.239 in twenty twenty six. 765 00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:22.760 No, yeah, like jokes aside. I know I've been dogging 766 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.559 on you this episode. I I think you bring up 767 00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:30.079 a lot of good points. And you know, I don't 768 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:32.920 have as much of a horse in this race as 769 00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:33.239 I said. 770 00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:35.119 You literally couldn't. You couldn't get the horse, couldn't get 771 00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:35.679 the horse. I could. 772 00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.320 Yeah, I tried. I couldn't even enter the race, buddy. 773 00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:42.960 You know. The first three d Zelda I beat was 774 00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.760 Breath of the Wild. I have never played. I've never 775 00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:52.559 played Madroid's Mask. I've never played game one. 776 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.039 I think you would like Twilight Princess. I don't know why, 777 00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:59.159 but something I have. My stepdad surprised this with a wi. 778 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:02.639 During like all the Wee craze when I was in 779 00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:05.760 I guess like early years of high school or late 780 00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:09.639 middle school, doesn't matter. And I enjoyed it. I just 781 00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:12.719 I had. I didn't beat it. I didn't really get 782 00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:13.079 that far. 783 00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:15.599 And then do you tell me you never played one 784 00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:18.480 Waker either. I've never played when Worker, I've never played one. 785 00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:20.320 I would love to do a series where I played 786 00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:20.719 through them. 787 00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:22.760 Yeah, but. 788 00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:30.880 We did that with Cold Yeah, Marcus and I also did. 789 00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:35.840 We played Minished Cap earlier this year. I was playing 790 00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:40.119 on my analog pocket and uh I had like I 791 00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:42.519 I think I mentioned in the video, like I have 792 00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:46.239 played two d Zelda was more than three d z Eldas, 793 00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:50.880 like I really like you know, uh, the the Oracle 794 00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:54.320 of like yeah, Links Awakening, Oracle Bajor like I played 795 00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:58.199 those as throughout the years. The one that I really 796 00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:02.519 liked was the three DS Between Worlds Link between the Worlds. 797 00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:05.239 That was really good. I played that when it came out, 798 00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.079 and then I went back to Minish Cap after only 799 00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:12.719 like kind of dabbling in it and really kind of 800 00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.559 what Eric was talking about Crono Trigger. There's some really 801 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:17.360 neat moments in this game, like they did this on 802 00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:20.559 a GBA, like the I think it's the first dungeon 803 00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:24.079 when you have to roll the log. Yeah, and I 804 00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:26.519 remember being like this is on a this is wild 805 00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:30.639 And there's just there's a lot of the really cool 806 00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:35.119 moments in Minish Cap. Honestly, it's probably you know, apart 807 00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.320 from Breath of the Wild's my favorite, Zelda, I really 808 00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:42.679 really love Tears of the Kingdom, and then Minish Cap 809 00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:46.280 is probably like my has become maybe my third favorite 810 00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:46.760 so far. 811 00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:47.280 Oh wow. 812 00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:50.800 I really have enjoyed and I've I've continued playing it 813 00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.960 since we I'm probably at least halfway through the game. 814 00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:57.920 I planned a beat it this year, but yeah, you know, 815 00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:01.079 I would really love to go back, and you've kind 816 00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:03.039 of inspired me Wes to maybe pick up I've got 817 00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:06.840 the three DS copies now actually and actually, uh fan 818 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.360 or friend of the show, I would say, uh, Crater, 819 00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:14.920 one of our community members. I met up with him 820 00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:18.239 and in person, he gifted me the three DS copy 821 00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:20.760 of Majora's Masks. So like, oh wow, oh no, I've 822 00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:22.639 gotta I've got to go out there, I've got to 823 00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:24.760 play that. I've got to play Akarina. So I think 824 00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:26.880 you kind of inspired me. This's like a good time 825 00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:27.519 to go back. 826 00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:32.480 Yeah, I've been replaying older like I've in this month. 827 00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:35.079 I've beaten Well in June, I beat Okarina of Time, 828 00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:37.800 I beat any Musha one on e Musha two. Like. 829 00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:40.360 It's it's been a slower period for new releases for 830 00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:43.360 me personally, so I've been like going back and replaying 831 00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:46.519 older games and it's just a really fascinating like it's 832 00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:48.800 just it's good to do. I feel like, especially I 833 00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:51.679 don't think, like, you know, if this isn't your job, 834 00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:53.320 you don't you don't necessarily need to do that. But 835 00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:55.440 I think it's smart to like go back and and 836 00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:59.360 plug holes in your gaming history and revisit your greats 837 00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:02.679 to see if they still hold up. And like, and 838 00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:05.000 I think one thing with any conversation like this, but 839 00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:08.679 especially the acrea of Time is like I think, criticizing 840 00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:12.480 something that someone holds so special in their life like 841 00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:14.800 feels like an attack on them. And it's just it's 842 00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:18.320 just not like it's my thoughts on Oqerina of Time 843 00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:21.360 are not saying what you thought as a child was 844 00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.760 wrong or what you think of the game now is wrong. 845 00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:27.400 It's just like for me, these are just how I feel. 846 00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:30.519 These are just the way. It's just it's just I 847 00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:34.079 replayed an old game, and sometimes old games feel old, 848 00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:36.760 and I'm I'm looking forward to this remake more now 849 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.440 because of it, because I'm like, oh, there's there's room 850 00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:41.760 to improve for me, and that's awesome. And Hey, if 851 00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:44.119 you think Ockera of Time is the greatest game of 852 00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:46.039 all time and this remake is a one to one, 853 00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:49.599 then like, I'm very happy for you get a fancy 854 00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:51.719 remake of one of your favorite games of all time. 855 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:56.360 Situation I can't lose. 856 00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:02.000 Well, Yeah, play old games, playing gold games is good, 857 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:02.760 It's good for the soul. 858 00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:07.960 Yeah. Well, let's take a quick ad break. We'll come back. 859 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:12.199 We're gonna talk about Assassin's Creed, Black Flag Recinct, Don't 860 00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:14.519 let It Starve, and cat Mail Company. We'll be right 861 00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:19.119 back right after this, Welcome back to the game Informer show. Everyone, 862 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:24.239 it's time to get into ac Black Flag Recinct. Not 863 00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:27.760 a colon in that name, believe it or not. Wes 864 00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:31.239 and Charles, you both have been playing this. Of course 865 00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:34.440 many of us played the original. Shout out to that multiplayer, 866 00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:35.679 the Hide and Seek multiplayer. 867 00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:39.920 Yeah, black Flag also, I believe it's a captain Wes. 868 00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:43.000 Just Yeah, we can finally acknowledge the hat. 869 00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:46.159 What hat? I'm not wearing a hat. 870 00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:51.559 Oh that's the links Awakening hat. Yeah, Charles, I want 871 00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:55.360 to hear all about Black Flag Recinct. I want to 872 00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:56.199 kick it over to you. 873 00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:57.360 Yeah. 874 00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:01.360 So I love the original game. I've beat it at 875 00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:07.599 least twice, maybe three times. I'm I'm I'm a big 876 00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:10.960 Assassin's Creed fan. That was specifically is the era we 877 00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:12.920 were just I was talking in the break, I was 878 00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:15.719 like talking about old games, Assassin's Creed, Black Flag back 879 00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:17.719 in twenty thirteen, back when we were all in middle school? 880 00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:18.119 Am I right? 881 00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:19.159 And everyone looked at me weird? 882 00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.760 Yeah. But my first job after high school. 883 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:23.920 Yeah, I was in college. 884 00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:28.599 Yeah. My introduction to Assassin's Creed, weirdly was Assassin's Creed 885 00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:31.960 three me and West share like some favorite like weird 886 00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:34.440 little Assassin Creed games of like I really like Assassin's 887 00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:35.480 Creed three because it was the first. 888 00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:36.920 One a good game. It's a good game. 889 00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:40.079 So four was the first one that I got like 890 00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:43.840 when it came out, and at the time, I didn't 891 00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:46.320 love it because I wanted an Assassin game and it 892 00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:48.679 was very much a pirate game. And when I revisited 893 00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:51.280 it later, I think I realized more that it was 894 00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:54.760 an Assassin game in more ways than I had realized. 895 00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:58.000 And also I guess the kind of metric for like 896 00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:00.079 the amount of Assassin per game. 897 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:01.920 Really got diluted over the years. 898 00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:04.320 They really were like yeah, I mean they don't really 899 00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:06.079 have hoods anymore. This is kind of the vibe. And 900 00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:10.840 this one is Edward Kenway, who is the grandfather of 901 00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:12.760 the main characters as his Creede three, but he's a 902 00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:17.519 pirate and he is a He was a normal guy 903 00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:20.440 who was in he was married and was like dissatisfied 904 00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:22.119 with his life and it is like I'm gonna go 905 00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:23.599 I'm gonna go be a pirate and I'm gonna be 906 00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:25.320 super rich and then everyone's gonna respect me. 907 00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.760 That was the midlife Crisis of the seventeen hundreds. Yeah, 908 00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:33.079 he's because you just career pivot into Piracy. 909 00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:33.400 Man. 910 00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:36.199 I really found that. 911 00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:37.880 The thing on the replay that I found with this 912 00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:39.719 game that I really connected with is I just love 913 00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:43.920 that he he thinks so much that money's gonna solve 914 00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:45.719 his problems, and really what he just wants is to 915 00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:48.199 be free, and the life of a pirate really appeals 916 00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:50.159 to him because he's like, ah, there's money, and then 917 00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:52.679 he slowly realizes like, oh no, it's it's freedom. It's 918 00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:54.760 the not living under tyranny. It's doing what I want, 919 00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:57.119 and then realizes that's kind of what aligns with the Assassins. 920 00:46:57.119 --> 00:47:02.639 But the game itself, uh, recinc it looks really really good. 921 00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:06.559 I'm having fun with it. I'm like maybe seven or 922 00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:11.639 eight hours in right now. I have like minor nitpicks 923 00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:14.880 with it. Uh, the main one being these controls make 924 00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:18.119 me feel insane. I don't know if you feel this way, Wes. 925 00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:20.280 I don't know if it's like, is this similar. 926 00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:21.719 To what it's like in Shadows? Because I didn't play 927 00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:23.280 all that much of that game, I was gonna ask, 928 00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:26.639 is it using old school AC controls that original Black 929 00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:27.639 Flag did or is it more of. 930 00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:31.320 The modern stuff. It's it's so they got like, yeah, 931 00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:32.000 go ahead. 932 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:34.920 So like in the in the in an Assassin's Creed game, 933 00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:40.800 that's like prior to like rig Yeah, if you hold 934 00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:43.679 the trigger, that's like your sprint slash parkore button. So 935 00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:45.880 if you're holding the trigger, then you're running and you're 936 00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:49.079 like climbing up stuff. Eventually they changed so that sprinting 937 00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:51.840 is like on the stick like normally enough if you 938 00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:55.360 hold X, I thinking PlayStation controller terms. If you hold X, 939 00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:57.079 then you just kind of ascend when. 940 00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:58.239 You move towards stuff. Yeah. 941 00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:02.719 The thing in this game driving me crazy is square 942 00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:08.880 is stealth. Square is crouch, which I feel like circle 943 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:11.480 is always crouch or the right stick is always crouch, yes, 944 00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:14.679 but square in this one is stealth slash crouch. And 945 00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.960 so many times I will go to stealth and I'll 946 00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:20.880 press circle and I'll dodge backwards into a bush and 947 00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:23.320 everyone's like, hey, there's a guy dance it around to 948 00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:25.800 that bush. Or I'll try to click the stick to 949 00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:28.400 stealth and if I click the wrong stick, that's the 950 00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:30.800 sprint button. So I'll stand up and they're like, hey, 951 00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:33.239 there's a guy over that bush and then. 952 00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:34.639 Attack is the right bumper. 953 00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:38.280 But my instinct is to hits square, So I go 954 00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:41.239 into combat and then I crouched down and I'm doing that, 955 00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:43.800 And you can change the controls, but if you change 956 00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:44.400 a button, you. 957 00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:47.239 Have to change it in all of its functions. It's 958 00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:48.280 kind of like a weird thing. 959 00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:51.920 So like square is stealth, but it's also if you 960 00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.599 hold the trigger and press square, that's like one of 961 00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:57.920 the combat shortcuts, and that's something else. Anyways, that's like 962 00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:00.679 a mate. If you're playing this game for the first 963 00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:02.400 time or you haven't played the original real long time, 964 00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:03.880 it probably won't be all that big of a deal. 965 00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:05.360 You won't notice it. But as someone who is like 966 00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:07.599 very used to those older controls, it's throwing me. 967 00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:07.960 Off a lot. 968 00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:10.719 Also, yeah, stealth should always be on circle. Crowd should 969 00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:14.559 always be on circle on a controller, Yes, or stick click. 970 00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:19.320 In Square is universally an attack button for like any 971 00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:22.360 third person action game, right I. The one thing I 972 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:23.320 did do is. 973 00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:27.840 The one like control shift I changed and stuck with, 974 00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:30.400 is you can go into the settings in combat and 975 00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:33.639 make it so when you go into combat you automatically 976 00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:36.760 lock onto the nearest person because that's how some of 977 00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:38.840 the older games were you kind of go into combat mode, 978 00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:40.280 and this one you have to click the stick. I 979 00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:42.679 made it so you automatically lock in on someone, which 980 00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:44.360 makes it easier for me to see them and easier 981 00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:46.800 to parry because the perry window in this game it's 982 00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:48.039 not like an Arkham style thing. 983 00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:50.440 It's it's much more timing base and it's a lot quicker. 984 00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:54.079 And that way you can just change clicking the stick 985 00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:56.840 to the eagle vision, where right now you have to 986 00:49:56.960 --> 00:50:01.159 hold the clicked stick for eagle vision now, and like, yeah, 987 00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:04.599 anyway you can talk about the rest of the game. 988 00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:06.760 That's like the one thing I was like on a 989 00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:08.440 podcasting plan about the controls. 990 00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:12.599 You controls are weird, but I very quickly after realizing 991 00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.320 they were weird, used brought out the duel sense edge 992 00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:20.360 and like mapped crouch and x onto the back buttons 993 00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:23.280 so I'm not having to move my hands in weird ways. 994 00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:26.159 Like everything feels a natural now. But to your point, 995 00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:28.719 a lot of people do not have back pedals on 996 00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:34.159 their controllers, and if you don't, the game is very odd. 997 00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:38.000 I it's like something that's happened over the past year. 998 00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:40.880 I would say souls likes are what really pushed me 999 00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:44.679 into back pedals, because I hate sprinting with like Circle. 1000 00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:47.000 It shooters. 1001 00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:50.199 For me, like having back pedals on a shooting game 1002 00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:52.320 on a controller feels so much better than having to 1003 00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:53.079 use face buttons. 1004 00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:55.199 Yeah. Yeah. 1005 00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:58.559 I played Nine Souls and the heel was on the 1006 00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:01.320 D pad and I change it to one of the 1007 00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:03.880 back buttons because every time I went to go and 1008 00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:05.599 move my thumb to do the heel, it was throwing 1009 00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:06.039 me off. 1010 00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:08.679 So I like switching the D pad to the shoulder button. 1011 00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:10.559 It takes a lot of work to get used to 1012 00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:12.880 to back pedals. It's taken me a very long time, 1013 00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:15.559 but now they feel almost necessary. 1014 00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:18.000 Battles to be clear paddles. 1015 00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:21.440 Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm backpedaling on our pronunciation at back tattles. 1016 00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:24.159 Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, precisely. 1017 00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:26.199 Yeah. 1018 00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:29.880 I love Assassin's Creed Black Flag. It's probably my favorite 1019 00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:32.599 in the series. I don't know if it's like the 1020 00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:34.840 best Assassin's Creed game, but it is the best video 1021 00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:37.280 game in the series for my in my opinion. Kind 1022 00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:40.199 Of alluding to Charles's point, is like back in the day, 1023 00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:41.960 it was way more. It felt more like just a 1024 00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:43.880 pirate adventure where they kind of shoehorned some of the 1025 00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:48.599 Assassins Creed stuff in and playing Recinct, I'm about seven 1026 00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:50.719 or eight hours in as well, like it still kind 1027 00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:53.760 of feels that way, but I am happy about it 1028 00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:55.920 because Black Flag sits, in my mind, is like the 1029 00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:58.800 best pirate game ever. It's not. It is an assassin's 1030 00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:00.760 Creed game, but like, when I'm thinking playing Black Flag, 1031 00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:03.639 I just want to go be a pirate, and Recinc 1032 00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:07.800 very smartly leans into that pirate aspect of Edward's life 1033 00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.480 even more so now, like they have tuned a lot 1034 00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:14.719 of the game to feel even more like in line 1035 00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:17.000 with being a pirate game. Like drinking, for example, you 1036 00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:19.800 can just drink around like you see loot and if 1037 00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:21.400 it's a drink, it heals you, and that wasn't in 1038 00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:24.440 the original game, and a pirate drinking just and healing 1039 00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:29.119 makes sense, you know whatever. If you're does no, it 1040 00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:33.800 does well. Actually they no, they actually used to drink. 1041 00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:36.559 They used to mix water into their rum instead of 1042 00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:39.960 just drinking straight water, because rum, you know, helps fight 1043 00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:42.480 infections and disinfect and they didn't know that back then. 1044 00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:46.199 They didn't realize they were using alcohol in adicinal way, 1045 00:52:46.679 --> 00:52:48.960 but like it did help them. They they knew something 1046 00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:51.639 was being fixed by alcohol, they just didn't understand the 1047 00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:54.760 science behind it. So it kind of makes a little 1048 00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:59.000 historical sense. Probably not, but that the sea battles they 1049 00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:02.800 have like giant seed tornadoes, which I'm blanking on the 1050 00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:06.840 word for there is a word for a tornado at sea, water. 1051 00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:09.519 Spout, a hurricane, or a typhoon. 1052 00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:18.000 Relatively, yeah, they have like water spouts. Now they have 1053 00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:22.599 they have lightning strikes, and see like they have turned 1054 00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:24.719 it into every sea battle becomes something you'd see in 1055 00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:27.360 a movie, which is like it's way over the top 1056 00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:29.760 and it's super kind of wild because I'm just trying 1057 00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:31.440 to get some metal off this ship. But it's really 1058 00:53:31.480 --> 00:53:33.920 cool to all of a sudden be like, there are 1059 00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:36.239 seven water spouts surrounding me and I'm going to have 1060 00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:38.760 to navigate in and around those makes. 1061 00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:42.159 Zero terified me as a kid. I was always terrified 1062 00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:43.960 that I would go to the ocean and get sucked 1063 00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:44.920 up by a water spout. 1064 00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:48.760 I feel like you'd have to be so so far 1065 00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:54.079 off shore to see. 1066 00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:55.239 Especially when you grew up out. I don't think it's 1067 00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:56.639 much of a concern for you. 1068 00:53:57.079 --> 00:53:59.280 I grew up in a tidewater region of Virginia, Thank 1069 00:53:59.320 --> 00:53:59.840 you very much. 1070 00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:04.400 Okay, okay, still you're not you weren't in like never 1071 00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:06.679 everybody can back off. 1072 00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:11.119 Oh you can't take the heat. Can't take the heat. Huh. 1073 00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:13.280 Get in the ocean and get sucked up by a 1074 00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:13.840 water spout. 1075 00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:17.559 Why don't you by the undercurrent by like the undertoe 1076 00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:19.280 and stuff. I was like, that's a natural thing. 1077 00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:23.360 To be afraid. You can look and see the currents. 1078 00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:25.920 Yeah. Yeah, just stick your head underwater and look at 1079 00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:27.000 the undertoe. It's fine. 1080 00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:32.679 Anyways, they added pets in the game. Now I have 1081 00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:37.039 a cat on my ship that's very pirate. Fan of that. No, 1082 00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:38.360 you don't get to name the cat, but you can't 1083 00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:41.360 pet it. I think there are other pets too. I 1084 00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:43.880 just have a cat currently. Parents I'm looking at. 1085 00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:48.000 I think, so does a cat. Hope so. But there's 1086 00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:50.440 there's a guy who talks about pets, and he's like. 1087 00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:52.880 There's dogs and cats. But I have always liked birds 1088 00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:53.920 and I don't have a bird. 1089 00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:57.599 It's like you have to have a bird. Crazy, Yeah, 1090 00:54:57.719 --> 00:54:58.239 I would. 1091 00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:00.280 I would think a cat wouldn't vibe with be on 1092 00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:01.559 a boat at sea. 1093 00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:04.960 You surprised, and they can. 1094 00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:08.159 They have so many places to jump up and and 1095 00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:12.960 crawl around, and they can. I think they can sharpen 1096 00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:14.920 their claws in the wood of the ship. 1097 00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:17.079 They're actual. 1098 00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:23.480 Historically, cats were very prominent on ships, uh, mostly for 1099 00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:25.480 the reason they would kill the rats on board, and 1100 00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:27.440 the rats would carry plague. The rats would get through 1101 00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:31.039 their food, so they would keep cats on board. Cats 1102 00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:34.159 were like one of the only actual pets that historical 1103 00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:38.679 pirates had. Parrots not super historical because they would usually 1104 00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:40.760 fly off or parrots were worth so much money they 1105 00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:42.480 could sell them, which is what a pirate would do. 1106 00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:47.920 Monkeys for obvious reasons, not really a pet. Dogs did 1107 00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:50.519 not survive at sea as well. But cats were very 1108 00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:54.880 common on just all ships at that age. But I 1109 00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:58.079 liked that they included that in Assassin's Great and obviously 1110 00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:00.280 more sea shantys more, you know. 1111 00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:02.039 It's just how are the new sea chanties? Are there 1112 00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:03.000 any bangers in there? 1113 00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:07.119 There is one that some might call a banger, the 1114 00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:09.280 Wellerman very famous on TikTok. 1115 00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:12.920 That is that one in there? That is it? 1116 00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:13.760 That one. 1117 00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:19.679 That was probably I don't know actually every sea shame know, 1118 00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:22.480 there's one on TikTok whenever they passed through what's that 1119 00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:23.400 the Drake's. 1120 00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:28.320 Passage, Uh, where they passed through it it's like huge high. 1121 00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:32.800 There's always videos of ships that of like that is. 1122 00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:37.519 That that isyster colors? That's a very that's a that's 1123 00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:41.039 a real pirate chanty that is uh it's it kicks 1124 00:56:41.039 --> 00:56:42.800 off the start of Pirates of the Caribbean at World's 1125 00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:44.760 End And it isn't This game, the one I'm talking 1126 00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:47.719 about is like the one it was popular on TikTok 1127 00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:49.519 years ago. It was like a bunch of dudes. 1128 00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:57.039 With something something something. I was always partial to the 1129 00:56:57.239 --> 00:56:59.559 what was it, Danny Riley? It was like about a 1130 00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:08.000 guy get this name? Yeah, that was my favorite, Billy Riley, 1131 00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:11.480 Billy Riley. I think it was Billy right. I remember 1132 00:57:11.480 --> 00:57:13.480 there was a three I went to where a bunch 1133 00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:15.559 of U at the j W ME and a few 1134 00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:18.719 other media peeps brought a black flag and then we 1135 00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:22.599 started singing a bunch of shanties, like very loudly around 1136 00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:25.599 other just guess, but it was. 1137 00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:29.039 The games media. 1138 00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:30.880 To do that again. 1139 00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:36.880 I also wanted to call out they have I allude 1140 00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:39.599 to it quickly, but they've they've changed combat a fair bit. 1141 00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:44.400 Yes, I don't. 1142 00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:48.199 I haven't really decided. I don't remember the original game 1143 00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:50.880 having great but that was the era where Assassin's Creed combat. 1144 00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:53.199 To me, it was always serviceable at best. 1145 00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:58.480 Yeah, I I liked the older combat was very easy, 1146 00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:01.800 and I liked that it made it feel like, oh, 1147 00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:03.599 I mean, these guys could just kill anyone. They're just 1148 00:58:03.639 --> 00:58:05.880 really really good at killing. It takes like one misstep 1149 00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:07.639 and then they stabbed you in your dead or whatever. 1150 00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:10.000 Now there's a lot it's a lot more intentional, Like 1151 00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:12.920 when I succeed, I feel like a sense of accomplishment 1152 00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:16.480 that I didn't really before. I don't know that it's 1153 00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:19.360 like improved a whole lot for me, but partially because 1154 00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:21.360 a lot of the times I'm like really tested in 1155 00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:25.159 combat is they've they've removed a lot of the encounters 1156 00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:26.800 in this game where it would be a stealth mission 1157 00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:29.360 and you auto fail if you get seen. Now everyone 1158 00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:31.519 just turns it you and tries to kill you. And 1159 00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:33.519 it's nice that you don't have to stop and do 1160 00:58:33.599 --> 00:58:35.920 everything over again, but it's kind of annoying when it's like, oh, hey, 1161 00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:38.679 you have to fight nine guys right now, Like you're 1162 00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:41.320 you're ready to sneak through, and they saw you because 1163 00:58:41.360 --> 00:58:43.559 you thought that the crouch button was the punch button 1164 00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:44.960 or you thought it was some other thing. 1165 00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:45.519 The idiot. 1166 00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:49.400 So I kind of thing, Yeah, go ahead, Wes. 1167 00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:52.039 I was gonna say they updated with the nine guys. 1168 00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:55.440 Back in the old days Assassin's Creed. That was Assassin's Creed. 1169 00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:58.159 You'd have nine enemies surrounding you, but they would take 1170 00:58:58.199 --> 00:59:00.320 turns fighting and you would just counter each one and 1171 00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:02.480 it would ends to kill and it was kind of 1172 00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:04.320 funny to watch happened. But it was fun and it 1173 00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:04.840 felt cool. 1174 00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:06.320 Now they have. 1175 00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:10.679 Done a good job, although I don't know if I 1176 00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:12.719 like it. The enemies are like kind of ruthless, Like 1177 00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:14.679 they don't just sit around and wait. Some of them do. 1178 00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:17.079 Like if there's nine enemies surrounding you, they're not all 1179 00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:19.079 going to attack at once, but like two, three, four 1180 00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:22.199 of them will attack it ones and the Like Charles mentioned, 1181 00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:25.760 the Perry window is a lot smaller, and as a result, 1182 00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:28.639 combat is is much harder because you're juggling more pieces 1183 00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:33.239 and enemies will kill you a lot faster. I'm kind 1184 00:59:33.239 --> 00:59:34.599 of in the same but as Charles, I don't know 1185 00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:37.239 if I'm liking it more or less. 1186 00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:37.599 I do. 1187 00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:41.599 There's more to do in combat, but for me, like 1188 00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:44.559 I still try to play everything as a stealth game 1189 00:59:44.840 --> 00:59:47.800 because I enjoy that a lot. And like Charles said, 1190 00:59:47.840 --> 00:59:50.239 when you fail and then the entire camp is just 1191 00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:53.480 on you, it's kind of like, ah, all right, well 1192 00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:54.599 this I'm screwed now. 1193 00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:55.800 Yeah. 1194 00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:58.280 There's also there's new moves you can do, Like you 1195 00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:03.440 can sweep your leg there's another like kind Yeah, there's 1196 01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:06.000 like these like new marshal techniques you can use, I 1197 01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:08.440 guess you'd say, but you can also just hit someone 1198 01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:11.360 until their guard breaks and then pair. Like there's more 1199 01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:14.079 moves you have at your disposal, but there's to like 1200 01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:15.960 Wes this point, but ocreative time, there's not always like 1201 01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:18.840 reasons to use them. You can just kind of wait 1202 01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:20.559 it out or just kind of swing past people. It's 1203 01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:21.920 not like there's a shield guy and you got to 1204 01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:23.639 use a specific move to get rid of the shield. 1205 01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:27.280 I never use the legs sweeps or the kick like 1206 01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:29.360 I just used them on accident. 1207 01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:32.480 Yeah yeah, like I'm just breaking your armor and then 1208 01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:34.519 we're gonna fight, and I will I'm waiting for the 1209 01:00:34.559 --> 01:00:36.679 button that says take down to kill you immediately. 1210 01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:39.119 I say, legs keep sounds good in the Assassin's Crag. 1211 01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:40.880 In my head, you would like like sweep a guy 1212 01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:42.440 and then stab them in the throat while he's on 1213 01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:45.519 the ground. You you definitely can do that. It's just 1214 01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:46.280 a thing of like. 1215 01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:51.000 It just and yeah, someone someone's gonna play the game 1216 01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:53.159 leg sweep all the time and they'll be totally fine 1217 01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:55.239 and totally well off. It's just a thing that requires 1218 01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:58.519 like two seconds more of thought when it's not. It 1219 01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:00.639 doesn't make it that much fatter or it doesn't really 1220 01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:02.199 make the game that much easier. It's a cool move 1221 01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:04.360 to do, but it's just something that the game never 1222 01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:05.119 is you need. 1223 01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:06.519 To do this to success. It's the point. 1224 01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:12.320 And also talking about the controls again, like so you're 1225 01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:14.559 attacking with R one, but to do a leg sweep 1226 01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:16.800 you got to press R two and then press X 1227 01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:20.800 and it just doesn't like it feels very out of 1228 01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:23.760 your flow. Like if you're in combat, you're doing a 1229 01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:26.639 lot of R one and L one attacking and pairing 1230 01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:28.960 and blocking, and then to do like an R two 1231 01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:30.840 X move kind of just breaks the flow a bit. 1232 01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:34.000 And I mean even seven hours, and I'm already like, Okay, 1233 01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:35.440 I'm just not really going to use these moves like 1234 01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:38.599 they don't really I'd rather feel cool and continue to 1235 01:01:38.639 --> 01:01:41.599 look cool in a combo then interrupt to do like 1236 01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:42.280 a leg sweep. 1237 01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:46.239 I do use the shortcut to shoot people with my guns. 1238 01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:50.039 You R two and triangle, then you shoot someone and 1239 01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:52.639 it either just kills them immediately or breaks their guards 1240 01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:55.119 super fast, and that that remains a very fun thing. 1241 01:01:56.880 --> 01:01:58.519 I had one more thing I wanted to call out 1242 01:01:58.519 --> 01:02:02.400 that was generally specific. I think also consensus. Matt Miller 1243 01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:04.960 reviewed it Gaven eight two five. I think me and 1244 01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:07.079 Wes are like, yeah, it's good. It's it's a little 1245 01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:09.079 different than the original. If you're gonna play one of 1246 01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:12.039 them now, I'd probably just recommend most people play this. 1247 01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:15.440 But I don't think it like revolutionized the game in 1248 01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:18.239 a way that's like transformed it. To me, I just 1249 01:02:18.280 --> 01:02:19.159 think it's it's cool. 1250 01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:26.920 Can I say something that mighty oh the original. 1251 01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:31.400 Likes better? Interesting? Have you played? 1252 01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:32.880 Have you played this or you just know I've been 1253 01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:36.079 watching a lot of comparison I've my TikTok feed has 1254 01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:42.039 served me a lot of comparison videos and there's just 1255 01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:49.119 something about it that like it almost looks it just 1256 01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:52.480 looks like a remaster in a way that like they've 1257 01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:54.480 stripped out a lot of like the bloom that was 1258 01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:57.960 in the lighting and the original, and like I think 1259 01:02:57.960 --> 01:03:01.360 it kind of loses something a little bit. 1260 01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:06.199 That's interesting. Black Flag was weird in betweens. It was 1261 01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:08.159 a cross gin, it was a cross chine. 1262 01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:10.440 I think it looks more gray now than I than 1263 01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:13.960 it did back then, Like it looks more like grounded 1264 01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:16.719 in in a way. It kind of like loses something 1265 01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:19.159 to me. I don't know, it didn't. It didn't really 1266 01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:22.400 And maybe maybe the person the people I've watched streaming 1267 01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:25.400 it haven't had their settings, you know, turned all the 1268 01:03:25.440 --> 01:03:28.199 way up, that could also be it. But I just 1269 01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:31.400 thought it was interesting, like the there's a lot less 1270 01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:34.320 bloom on the highlights, and like the color's like a 1271 01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:37.239 different like sort of like color grade to it where 1272 01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:40.480 where it kind of just kind of looks to me 1273 01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:43.000 like it melds together a bit more. And maybe that's 1274 01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:45.840 just again that might just be the clips I've seen. 1275 01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:48.960 I'm curious what you guys think about the kind of 1276 01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:50.079 the actual graphics. 1277 01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:53.800 I think that when you're at Sea. 1278 01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:57.920 I think the remaster looks way way better, okay, because 1279 01:03:57.960 --> 01:03:59.920 there's there's a lot more like Techo, Like I think 1280 01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:01.880 if you're watching like cut scenes side by side, there's 1281 01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:04.159 a little bit more of a conversation. But like the 1282 01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:06.920 tech in the water, like the way the ocean moves 1283 01:04:07.079 --> 01:04:10.159 and the like okay sun rises and the sunsets, like 1284 01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:12.960 that stuff is really cool that it was Like it 1285 01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:15.320 didn't look terrible in the original game obviously, but that's 1286 01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:16.159 like a clear. 1287 01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:16.639 Upgrade to me. 1288 01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:17.320 Okay. 1289 01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:19.519 I do think there's plenty of conversation to be had 1290 01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:22.079 of like you know, the opening cut scenes or like 1291 01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:24.440 when they do the flashbacks and stuff like, which are 1292 01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:27.039 those artistic decisions was better? And I do think there's 1293 01:04:27.079 --> 01:04:30.880 often a thing of like, once games can make people 1294 01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:33.800 look as realistic as possible, they forget to make decisions 1295 01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:36.440 other than realism, and like a lot of the times, 1296 01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:40.280 the the artistic direction you go and that's other than 1297 01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:44.360 that can be more interesting. But I do think I 1298 01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:45.800 do think there's parts of this game where it's like 1299 01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:48.559 absolutely was worth remaking just just to see the waves, 1300 01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:49.960 and that's where you are a lot of the game. 1301 01:04:50.280 --> 01:04:51.920 Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, and again I have 1302 01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:54.880 not played it myself yet, so like take what I 1303 01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:56.800 was saying with a grain of salt. It was just 1304 01:04:56.920 --> 01:04:59.159 like I had seen some stuff and I was like, huh, 1305 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:01.480 you know how this looks to me? 1306 01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:06.679 Comparatively For me, I love Assassin's Creed Black Flag. I 1307 01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:09.199 actually think it's one of the ugliest Assassin's Creeds, like 1308 01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:14.079 the original, specifically in that era. Like I think the 1309 01:05:14.159 --> 01:05:16.480 face is the horrible. I think there's like some some 1310 01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:20.840 like ambiance and atmosphere that the remake has lost. But 1311 01:05:21.079 --> 01:05:23.960 like I have tried to go back to the original 1312 01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:27.880 and it's fine, Like I have replayed it's since launch, 1313 01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:31.880 like on computer and stuff. But I don't know, I've 1314 01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:34.519 as much as I love that game, I am genuinely 1315 01:05:34.559 --> 01:05:37.000 like kind of like propulsed by how the original looks. 1316 01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:40.280 So I was very much happy about this remake. And 1317 01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:42.440 there are like comparisons you can do. Like I remember 1318 01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:44.400 when they first announced this remake, there were scenes like 1319 01:05:44.519 --> 01:05:47.039 side by side that people would take and I generally 1320 01:05:47.159 --> 01:05:49.239 just write those off because like you can just pick 1321 01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:51.559 and pluck whatever you want to, like make your message 1322 01:05:51.599 --> 01:05:55.119 on your social post go viral. But like from what 1323 01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:59.840 I'm playing it this it feels like a remake made 1324 01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:02.440 in the vein of like the rose tinted glasses. Like 1325 01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:04.199 I'm like, oh, this is how this is how Black 1326 01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:07.119 Flag always looked to me as a kid, like or 1327 01:06:07.320 --> 01:06:09.320 not a kid. I mean, I was graduating high school 1328 01:06:09.559 --> 01:06:10.920 when it came out, but like, this is how it 1329 01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:12.360 used to look to me, and now this is just 1330 01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:15.719 what it is in my mind. Yeah, I don't know, 1331 01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:16.119 I think it. 1332 01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:19.360 Until I play it myself. I was just curious what 1333 01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:20.159 your take. 1334 01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:23.519 Was on that. Yeah, I mean it's like it's a 1335 01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:25.679 It's just that I guess that generation for me, like 1336 01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:27.360 I think you said in Marcus, like the PS three 1337 01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:30.840 to PS four generation was it was just an odd one. 1338 01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:33.599 I don't know. And Ubisoft's Anvil engine has come so 1339 01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:36.960 far and I think it really shows, like this is 1340 01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:39.719 a huge improvement even Overshadows in my opinion, and Shadows 1341 01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:44.039 just came out what last year or two years ago? Yeah, 1342 01:06:44.119 --> 01:06:47.079 last year. I think this is like a really, really, 1343 01:06:47.159 --> 01:06:49.440 really good looking game. It does have that kind of 1344 01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:53.760 that realism thing that Charles touched on, for sure, but 1345 01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:58.840 the game still gets a lot right visually, and especially 1346 01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:02.679 when you get into the more like Fantascal Assassin's kreedish elements, 1347 01:07:02.760 --> 01:07:05.000 or even like the the water spouts we were talking about. 1348 01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:07.119 When that kind of stuff starts to happen, it really 1349 01:07:07.159 --> 01:07:09.599 does feel like you're watching a I don't know, Pirates 1350 01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:12.559 of the Caribbean for lack of better other pirate cinema, 1351 01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:14.760 but like it does feel fantastical and mythological in the 1352 01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:17.280 way that pirates kind of are in pop culture. 1353 01:07:18.679 --> 01:07:18.800 Uh. 1354 01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:20.480 The last thing I want to mention real quick before 1355 01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:24.199 we move on is the subtitles are very interesting. Well 1356 01:07:24.280 --> 01:07:26.320 are you playing with the subtitles on? Are you subtitled? 1357 01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:26.519 Am? 1358 01:07:26.599 --> 01:07:29.079 But I have not noticed an interesting thing. 1359 01:07:29.320 --> 01:07:35.320 The way they capitalize words is very odd. They will 1360 01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:37.679 capitalize basically every noun. 1361 01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:41.760 And I as if a proper noun. 1362 01:07:42.639 --> 01:07:45.800 Yes, And I'm pretty sure because the only other instance 1363 01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:48.039 I remember seeing this being like, huh, that's odd is 1364 01:07:48.119 --> 01:07:52.159 like reading the Constitution in like history class, and it 1365 01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:55.079 is like an eighteenth century way of writing. Of you 1366 01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:57.840 you just capitalized nouns, or you capitalize things in a 1367 01:07:57.880 --> 01:08:02.480 sentence that you want to like stand out as important. Yeah, 1368 01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:04.400 And so when you're playing the game, I was like, 1369 01:08:04.599 --> 01:08:05.840 at first, I was like, what the heck, this is 1370 01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:06.639 like a weird translation. 1371 01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:08.119 And maybe it is. Maybe it's like a weird mistake. 1372 01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:10.559 I know, you like capitalized nouns in German, that's the. 1373 01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:11.920 Thing they do in that language. 1374 01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:15.800 But in this case, I'm pretty sure that's what they 1375 01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:17.199 were going for. And at first I was like, they 1376 01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:19.640 keep making mistakes here, what the heck they need? They 1377 01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:22.119 need Charles Hart, associate editor to take a pass on 1378 01:08:22.199 --> 01:08:24.319 this script. And then the more I realized it was 1379 01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:25.840 like intentional, I'm like, that's actually really cool. 1380 01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:28.159 It's like a of the era type thing. 1381 01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:30.720 I haven't noticed that, but I'm gonna that is. I'm 1382 01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:31.399 gonna check it out now. 1383 01:08:31.439 --> 01:08:31.800 It's cool. 1384 01:08:34.039 --> 01:08:38.000 Before we leave Black Flag Talk, I have some statements 1385 01:08:38.039 --> 01:08:40.439 I wrote down. I'm okay, the jig is up. I 1386 01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:43.239 really love pirates. I pirates are my favorite part of history. 1387 01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:46.359 I love pirate movies and games and board games and 1388 01:08:46.399 --> 01:08:51.920 WHU no, because I know the real history of pirates 1389 01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:55.199 and that life sucked. But I wrote down some tru 1390 01:08:55.319 --> 01:08:57.720 or false statements, and I because I was actually just 1391 01:08:57.760 --> 01:08:59.840 talking with my wife about these. I'd finished a book 1392 01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:05.000 recently about pirate mythology, and I wanted to do some 1393 01:09:05.079 --> 01:09:06.560 true or false, and just see what you guys thought 1394 01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:08.920 and let the readers you know, kind of or the listeners, uh, 1395 01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:12.000 maybe get some right or wrong if you guys don't mind. 1396 01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:15.600 Pirates are Pirates wore eye patches so that one eye 1397 01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:17.840 was always attuned to the darkness, making it easier to 1398 01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:19.760 see below deck. True or false? 1399 01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:23.840 True? Yeah, true that. 1400 01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:27.479 Someone with the horizon. 1401 01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:31.359 The answer is false, and that is because for the 1402 01:09:31.399 --> 01:09:33.439 most part, pirates just didn't wear eye patches, and they 1403 01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:36.800 also didn't have wooden peg legs or hooks for hands. 1404 01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:40.000 If you've got an injury like that, you probably just 1405 01:09:40.039 --> 01:09:42.920 weren't going to be on board anymore. But it looks 1406 01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:44.640 cool in movies, so that's great. 1407 01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:47.880 Great, But why but the eye patch thing does work. 1408 01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:51.119 That's some tech they missed out on. Come on, it is. 1409 01:09:52.760 --> 01:09:54.800 But they had like candles and stuff down below deck. 1410 01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:55.520 They probably didn't. 1411 01:09:56.319 --> 01:09:57.039 You're a child. 1412 01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:00.720 If you have like an eye issue, like a weak eye, 1413 01:10:01.119 --> 01:10:05.119 they will cover your strong eye to make it your 1414 01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:08.720 your weak eye. Kind of get up to get up 1415 01:10:08.720 --> 01:10:09.079 to speed. 1416 01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:13.439 Disappointed, they solve the very problem with the solution of 1417 01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:14.760 we put lights down there. 1418 01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:20.159 Yes, yeah, they use candles. Uh, Pirates made their victims 1419 01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:22.439 walk the planks. 1420 01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:26.520 I'm gonna I'm gonna say yes, but maybe not in 1421 01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:29.039 the conventional plank. But I'm saying they did kick them 1422 01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:32.680 off the ship into the ocean. Be correct. 1423 01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:34.800 Oh sorry, I should probably wait for everybody to. 1424 01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:36.760 Answered. 1425 01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:38.119 I'm gonna I get too excited. 1426 01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:38.880 I was gonna say. 1427 01:10:38.760 --> 01:10:43.439 True, but I mean what Marcus said was true and whatever. Yeah, 1428 01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:45.920 this is what I also co opping. 1429 01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:48.560 Yeah, they did not like put the plank out, but 1430 01:10:48.840 --> 01:10:51.239 they would just kick. They would just throw people overboard. 1431 01:10:52.359 --> 01:10:56.479 Like unnecessary. So then I then I was right because 1432 01:10:56.520 --> 01:10:58.920 you asked did they walk the plank or not and 1433 01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:03.960 the answer was no. Never mind, I'm just wrong. Marcus 1434 01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:04.399 was right. 1435 01:11:04.319 --> 01:11:06.439 Because he said, like, I doubt they actually walked on 1436 01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:08.000 a plank, but I bet they threw people over there. 1437 01:11:08.039 --> 01:11:09.479 I'm just trying to get out of the goose egg 1438 01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:13.359 right now. I'm over too. Uh. 1439 01:11:14.399 --> 01:11:17.039 Pirates would maroon their victims on islands. 1440 01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:18.039 True. 1441 01:11:21.479 --> 01:11:25.199 I'm gonna say false because how often are you just 1442 01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:28.079 running into an island that you can leave someone on. 1443 01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:30.079 I'm gonna say false because I think if they wanted 1444 01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:31.880 to get rid of somebody, they would just toss them over. 1445 01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:35.840 Yeah, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say true. I'm gonna 1446 01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:39.520 say they reserved it for like specific offenses. 1447 01:11:41.319 --> 01:11:45.600 So the answer is true, but for different reasons. Basically, 1448 01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:47.479 if you got captured by a pirate and we're allowed 1449 01:11:47.520 --> 01:11:49.560 to stay alive, you had two choices, which was to 1450 01:11:49.720 --> 01:11:53.119 work on the ship or you could be marooned, which 1451 01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:56.920 would be swear to secrecy, promise not to come after us, 1452 01:11:56.960 --> 01:11:59.159 Promise not to you know, get us in trouble with 1453 01:11:59.239 --> 01:12:01.520 the law, but we will that you live on this 1454 01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:04.760 island and you can figure out life on your own. Obviously, 1455 01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:06.720 the chances of getting off the island are pretty slim 1456 01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:08.840 back then, but you had a chance. 1457 01:12:10.119 --> 01:12:11.279 That is kind of a courtesy. 1458 01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:17.560 Yeah, pirates created their own unique flags. True or false? 1459 01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:22.079 True true, true, true, that's too funny, This is true. 1460 01:12:22.479 --> 01:12:25.520 Yeah, they did create their own flags. Something that I 1461 01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:28.560 recently learned that I think is really cool is for 1462 01:12:28.680 --> 01:12:30.680 like the first half of the Golden Age of piracy, 1463 01:12:30.920 --> 01:12:33.000 they would have a red flag and a black flag, 1464 01:12:33.079 --> 01:12:35.399 and they would fly one depending on what their plans were. 1465 01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:37.680 If they flew a red flag that meant no mercy 1466 01:12:37.800 --> 01:12:40.520 and they were going to kill you and destroy your 1467 01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:44.199 ship and take your stuff. Black flag meant they will 1468 01:12:44.279 --> 01:12:46.279 quarter you, so they will try to board your ship, 1469 01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:48.279 and they will allow you to live as long as 1470 01:12:48.319 --> 01:12:51.640 you let the robbing happen peacefully. And so they would 1471 01:12:51.720 --> 01:12:53.359 kind of fly one or the other, depending on what 1472 01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:56.079 kind of mood they were in. Eventually, piracy just became 1473 01:12:56.159 --> 01:12:58.479 known for the black flag, and you just assumed pirates 1474 01:12:58.520 --> 01:13:00.560 had the worst intentions if you saw the black flag. 1475 01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:03.560 But for the most part, pirates were not jumping on 1476 01:13:03.640 --> 01:13:07.640 ships and killing everybody because back then men were valuable. 1477 01:13:08.079 --> 01:13:10.560 Why not have them work on the ship. And yes, 1478 01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:13.479 they did get a little flamboyant with flag designs, and 1479 01:13:13.560 --> 01:13:16.159 they wanted to be known and seen on the seas 1480 01:13:16.199 --> 01:13:19.039 as like these huge threats. Yeah, we actually kind of 1481 01:13:19.079 --> 01:13:21.479 touched on this one. But pirates drink rum on ships, 1482 01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:23.640 That one is true, but they would mix it with 1483 01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:27.199 their water because it provided them like disinfectant relief and 1484 01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:32.000 help them get over its sicknesses and illnesses. True or false. 1485 01:13:32.039 --> 01:13:32.800 Pirates were rich. 1486 01:13:34.279 --> 01:13:40.079 False, I'm gonna say statistically false. Maybe the captain, but 1487 01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:43.439 like there's a whole crew, Yeah, I don't think they 1488 01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:44.199 all They. 1489 01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:49.800 Kept putting all their treasure and holes in the ground 1490 01:13:49.880 --> 01:13:53.039 they can't. It's not accessible that that's actually not true. 1491 01:13:53.079 --> 01:13:55.279 I know that that's that's I feel. 1492 01:13:55.079 --> 01:13:58.079 Like the the goal of being a pirate is to 1493 01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:00.279 get enough money that you don't have to be a 1494 01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:03.800 pirate anymore. So the fact that they continued to pirate 1495 01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:06.960 implies to me, like the reason I still have a job. 1496 01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:11.840 I'm not rich and ready to retire yet. 1497 01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:14.680 You know, but if I just stumbled onto like ten 1498 01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:16.960 million dollars tomorrow, you'd be out. 1499 01:14:17.359 --> 01:14:17.960 You'd be gone. 1500 01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:19.840 I think the pirates for paycheck to paycheck. 1501 01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:23.840 For sure, pirates were. They were for the most part, 1502 01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:26.600 not rich for the reason Charles stated, well. 1503 01:14:26.479 --> 01:14:29.119 Also, ships are expensive, like whatever. Even if they got 1504 01:14:29.159 --> 01:14:31.039 a big score, it probably has to go a lot 1505 01:14:31.079 --> 01:14:32.720 of it has to go into maintaining the ship. 1506 01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:35.600 They went into maintaining the ship, and they would also, 1507 01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:39.479 you know, ration out the money to everybody. Basically, pirates 1508 01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:41.600 were and and Black Five kind of touches on this. 1509 01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:45.199 Like pirates, they would stop whatever job they have because 1510 01:14:45.239 --> 01:14:46.840 maybe they had a huge debt back home where they 1511 01:14:46.840 --> 01:14:48.520 wanted to provide for their family. They would go be 1512 01:14:48.560 --> 01:14:50.560 a pirate with the goal of doing it for a 1513 01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:54.039 couple of years. Striking big and then coming home, retiring, 1514 01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:56.520 paying off the debt that's on them. Like it was 1515 01:14:56.520 --> 01:14:59.560 always supposed to be temporary, but as Charles mentioned, like 1516 01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:02.760 they did not make enough to they just had to 1517 01:15:02.840 --> 01:15:04.039 keep going from score to score. 1518 01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:08.319 Just my summer gig being a pirate for a bit. Yeah, 1519 01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:08.920 just ave it. 1520 01:15:10.279 --> 01:15:12.359 Black Beard put lit fuses in his beard. 1521 01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:16.600 That is false, But I know it's like it's a 1522 01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:20.039 popular legend that was well, I guess we don't know it. 1523 01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:23.039 I know it is a thing that was spread about 1524 01:15:23.159 --> 01:15:25.439 him at the time, but I don't know if it 1525 01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:28.640 was ever actually conf I've never heard of this. It's 1526 01:15:28.680 --> 01:15:30.119 like a really famous black Beard he. 1527 01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:32.039 Does in black flag he has Yeah, he does it 1528 01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:32.800 in black fuses. 1529 01:15:35.640 --> 01:15:36.039 He does it. 1530 01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:39.560 Yes, Yeah, yeah, I found blackleg He had him in 1531 01:15:39.680 --> 01:15:41.479 his hat, which is what I was going to guess. 1532 01:15:42.239 --> 01:15:45.279 Beard Beard feels a little too close for comfort. Yeah, 1533 01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:47.159 I'm gonna I guess. I'm saying no because I don't 1534 01:15:47.159 --> 01:15:51.039 think there's any historical proof, but everyone kind of speaks 1535 01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:53.560 about it as if it was real. I'm saying false. 1536 01:15:54.920 --> 01:15:57.880 Marcus is really good at this. It is generally believed 1537 01:15:57.920 --> 01:16:00.960 to be true because there's enough documentation of people talking 1538 01:16:01.039 --> 01:16:04.439 about black Beard that he would put fuses in his 1539 01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:07.439 beard so that it would smoke. He would he specifically 1540 01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:09.359 grew out his hair and did not tie it up 1541 01:16:09.439 --> 01:16:12.159 so that it looked kind of wild and wrangly, and 1542 01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:15.399 did other stuff like that to be more threatening on 1543 01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:17.319 the seas. There was one pirate I'm blinking on his name, 1544 01:16:17.399 --> 01:16:19.640 but when him and his crew attacked, they would all 1545 01:16:19.720 --> 01:16:22.880 strip down but naked as like a way to throw 1546 01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:24.600 off the crew that they were attacking. 1547 01:16:25.960 --> 01:16:28.159 Color flag? Do you fly for that to let people 1548 01:16:28.199 --> 01:16:28.800 know what you're doing? 1549 01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:34.880 Uh? Great question. I don't have the answer I question, 1550 01:16:35.039 --> 01:16:36.680 but I know there was like a lot of places 1551 01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:37.039 I could go. 1552 01:16:37.159 --> 01:16:39.720 But I was the firewall catching a lot of answers 1553 01:16:39.800 --> 01:16:41.920 right now. I wasn't going to. 1554 01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:44.119 Say, I'm actually gonna make someone a little bit upset, 1555 01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:46.319 so we're just gonna going to be cool. 1556 01:16:47.079 --> 01:16:49.439 Yes, I have a few more. Women and children were 1557 01:16:49.479 --> 01:16:51.319 not allowed on board pirate ships. 1558 01:16:52.680 --> 01:16:53.319 True. 1559 01:16:56.119 --> 01:16:59.680 I wouldn't say false, though I know there's all the 1560 01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:02.680 case of pirates like cross dressing. My MI understanding was 1561 01:17:02.680 --> 01:17:06.039 that more to get respect than it was like they 1562 01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:06.720 were banned. 1563 01:17:07.159 --> 01:17:10.520 Yeah, like there are there are female pirates. But we're 1564 01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:12.399 talking about just like the rank and file crew and 1565 01:17:12.479 --> 01:17:13.880 not like someone higher ranking. 1566 01:17:13.920 --> 01:17:16.600 I'm gonna say, like civilian. Are we talking like civilian 1567 01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:17.479 women and children? 1568 01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:19.760 Yeah, I'm gonna say there was probably a career day, 1569 01:17:20.159 --> 01:17:25.560 right yeah, yeah, all right, son, This is the part 1570 01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:26.479 where we strip naked. 1571 01:17:26.600 --> 01:17:33.399 And they did not allow women on board because they 1572 01:17:33.439 --> 01:17:36.079 did not want men fighting over women on board. And 1573 01:17:36.119 --> 01:17:38.239 they did not allow children on board because there were 1574 01:17:38.920 --> 01:17:42.119 pirates were not good people and for similar reasons as 1575 01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:44.279 wanting women on board, they would bring children on board, 1576 01:17:44.359 --> 01:17:47.560 and captains did not want that interfering with what was 1577 01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:53.000 happening on ships. Pirates are were rapists and pillagers, some 1578 01:17:53.199 --> 01:17:56.239 were pedophiles. Like not a good crew or company to 1579 01:17:56.319 --> 01:17:58.239 be in. So women and children were not allowed on board, 1580 01:17:58.640 --> 01:18:00.279 not because they didn't want them on board, but because 1581 01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:04.159 it would interrupt the flow of work, which is awful. Uh. 1582 01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:06.840 Pirates buried their treasure? True or false? 1583 01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:10.399 Marcus already said it was false, and he seems to 1584 01:18:10.560 --> 01:18:12.119 know everything about pirates. 1585 01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:13.079 I'm going with false. 1586 01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:17.560 I noticed his true false, Marcus. 1587 01:18:18.319 --> 01:18:18.560 They did. 1588 01:18:18.600 --> 01:18:21.399 They did not bury their treasure. There's no real documentation. 1589 01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:23.479 Respect that. 1590 01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:27.680 I respect that really Marcus should go last, because. 1591 01:18:28.840 --> 01:18:33.600 Yeah, like I love pirates stuff, maybe a step below Wes, 1592 01:18:34.039 --> 01:18:37.199 but I I've always also had a fascination with pirates. 1593 01:18:37.359 --> 01:18:38.000 Pirates rule. 1594 01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:41.039 I know all the words to black Flag or to 1595 01:18:41.399 --> 01:18:44.600 black Beard versus al Capone epograph Ale of History, So 1596 01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:47.600 that's something, okay, Yeah, yeah, that's where I'm pulling. 1597 01:18:47.960 --> 01:18:50.399 Did he have his fus on his beard? In that video? 1598 01:18:50.680 --> 01:18:52.840 There is a line of I'll use that fuse in 1599 01:18:52.880 --> 01:18:54.359 your hat to let up you and your buddies and 1600 01:18:54.439 --> 01:18:56.880 burn your sailboat down and collect the insurance money. 1601 01:18:57.239 --> 01:18:58.039 That's an Alcalpone. 1602 01:18:58.159 --> 01:19:01.159 That doesn't you do know the whole thing, don't you money? 1603 01:19:04.199 --> 01:19:07.239 I like that fuse in your hat to no, I 1604 01:19:07.239 --> 01:19:11.079 already lost it. If I did it correct, then the. 1605 01:19:11.119 --> 01:19:19.880 Cat anyways, does that pirates the best? 1606 01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:22.560 The best line that that rape is actually sponsored by 1607 01:19:22.560 --> 01:19:26.039 Assassin's creed for Black Flag. There's a bunch of weird 1608 01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:28.840 references to the game in that verse, but the best 1609 01:19:28.920 --> 01:19:33.760 one is al Capone says, I'm the mc assassin slash 1610 01:19:33.920 --> 01:19:34.960 like Edward ken Way. 1611 01:19:35.159 --> 01:19:48.479 Wrap so hard called me al dente. It's not like soft. Yeah, 1612 01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:54.720 it's not that cooking it to softens the noodle, but 1613 01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:56.800 it's but if you go too far, like you know 1614 01:19:57.119 --> 01:20:00.520 a lot of people when you say to don't, don't 1615 01:20:00.680 --> 01:20:03.319 the state of mind. I d state of mind like 1616 01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:06.560 Dante has a chew, but you generally want it soft 1617 01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:07.359 and not hard. 1618 01:20:07.640 --> 01:20:11.159 You don't like you know, it's a spectrums. 1619 01:20:11.399 --> 01:20:17.279 What's the next question? Is it about pasta pates like 1620 01:20:17.319 --> 01:20:18.159 their pasta cooked? 1621 01:20:19.039 --> 01:20:22.640 Did pirates say are and talk otherwise like that? 1622 01:20:23.680 --> 01:20:26.760 Like the classic pirate I'm gonna say false because there's 1623 01:20:26.840 --> 01:20:29.680 literally no evidence of video recording because that didn't exist 1624 01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:33.239 in the Golden Asia piracy. We have no way of noise, 1625 01:20:33.359 --> 01:20:36.560 is correct. They do not have video recordings empire or 1626 01:20:36.680 --> 01:20:39.359 audio recording, like there's no way. There's literally no way 1627 01:20:39.399 --> 01:20:40.640 of knowing they were. 1628 01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:43.159 Black Beer getting canceled for that one TikTok he made, 1629 01:20:43.520 --> 01:20:46.600 Yeah black Beard apology video goes crazy. 1630 01:20:51.199 --> 01:20:53.520 I don't know if they specifically said like yar and are. 1631 01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:56.680 I think it was probably they probably pronounced things miss 1632 01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:02.119 mispronounced things because I would imagine and people who found 1633 01:21:02.159 --> 01:21:07.159 themselves as a pirate due to like circumstance, probably not 1634 01:21:07.319 --> 01:21:10.920 as educated, like they probably didn't have access to the 1635 01:21:10.960 --> 01:21:14.199 same things as like royalty who are like very prim 1636 01:21:14.279 --> 01:21:16.520 and proper and pronounced things all correctly, and so they 1637 01:21:16.600 --> 01:21:21.000 kind of got this kind of fake persona from the 1638 01:21:21.239 --> 01:21:24.319 general public that like they say things funny and stuff. 1639 01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:28.279 I mean, being a gate a ship and using the stars, 1640 01:21:28.319 --> 01:21:32.560 I mean that's pretty smart. Like see when you're a 1641 01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:39.119 streets Actually that's not streets smart smart. It's there. 1642 01:21:39.520 --> 01:21:41.880 There's like an old movie that has a pirate in it, 1643 01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:45.199 and he talked like that, and everyone based their image 1644 01:21:45.199 --> 01:21:47.359 of pirates off of that one character. 1645 01:21:48.119 --> 01:21:50.399 Charles is correct. That old movie is Treasure Island from 1646 01:21:50.399 --> 01:21:55.520 the nineteen fifties. That movie has largely determined pop culture pirates, 1647 01:21:55.600 --> 01:21:59.880 like walking, the plank, eye patches, peg legs, the accent, 1648 01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:02.159 all of that goes back to that movie pretty much. 1649 01:22:02.840 --> 01:22:04.359 For the most part, they just sounded like where they 1650 01:22:04.439 --> 01:22:06.920 came from, Wales, from the UK, from Scotland to Ireland, 1651 01:22:07.680 --> 01:22:10.039 and they might pick up some slang from like the Caribbean. 1652 01:22:10.159 --> 01:22:12.840 But yeah, they weren't like talking. 1653 01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:16.439 Like that as a society. That Treasure Planet or Treasure 1654 01:22:16.479 --> 01:22:17.880 Island was a documentary. 1655 01:22:20.079 --> 01:22:22.399 It was like, I mean, it just kind of like 1656 01:22:22.479 --> 01:22:25.600 took over. That was the that was their Avengers endgame 1657 01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:32.079 back then, you know, I have two more pirates use 1658 01:22:32.159 --> 01:22:36.479 cannons and other means to destroy ships on the seats. Yes, yes, 1659 01:22:38.520 --> 01:22:41.399 that one is actually largely false. A lot of pirates 1660 01:22:41.439 --> 01:22:44.319 did not have ships capable of holding guns, and so 1661 01:22:44.359 --> 01:22:46.880 they would just rob ships by like join them. There 1662 01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:49.079 were a couple of pirates who had secured larger ships 1663 01:22:50.199 --> 01:22:52.920 for the most part, Yes, black Beard is one of 1664 01:22:52.960 --> 01:22:56.000 the Yes, he's one of the more infamous pirates who 1665 01:22:56.279 --> 01:22:59.079 was able to acquire a ship that could hold cannons. 1666 01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:03.439 But for the most part, they're stealing, yes, and they're 1667 01:23:03.439 --> 01:23:06.720 stealing ships and a lot of only the navy ships 1668 01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:09.439 could have guns, like merchants weren't allowed to have cannons, 1669 01:23:09.439 --> 01:23:12.640 and that's usually what they stole was those small schooners 1670 01:23:12.640 --> 01:23:15.479 and whatnot. So unless you would like scored big from 1671 01:23:15.520 --> 01:23:18.439 the Spanish Empire something like that, then you probably didn't 1672 01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:20.279 have guns and you were just getting close enough to 1673 01:23:20.359 --> 01:23:24.239 board them and hopefully rob them. And this kind of 1674 01:23:24.279 --> 01:23:26.680 goes into the last question or true or false statement 1675 01:23:26.720 --> 01:23:29.439 the British Empire encouraged piracy in the Caribbean. 1676 01:23:31.079 --> 01:23:35.840 True, I'm saying piracy was an inside job this whole time, 1677 01:23:37.199 --> 01:23:46.840 that sounds like I can't wait to cut that from 1678 01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:47.560 the podcast. 1679 01:23:56.680 --> 01:24:00.560 Charles wasn't even alive for that presidency either, like a 1680 01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:09.000 little bit that's that's stolen presidential valor. 1681 01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:13.520 And back and back back to one. 1682 01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:19.159 Yes, true, the British Empire did encourage piracy. They actually 1683 01:24:19.159 --> 01:24:23.359 allowed pirates to a dock at Port Royals, specifically to 1684 01:24:23.439 --> 01:24:27.039 spend money in their shops so long as pirates uh 1685 01:24:27.720 --> 01:24:30.359 agreed soft agreed to not attack British ships and only 1686 01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:31.960 focused on Spanish ships. 1687 01:24:31.720 --> 01:24:33.159 Which Royal Caribbean. 1688 01:24:33.479 --> 01:24:36.439 I am yeah, like the actual Port Royal which sunk 1689 01:24:36.600 --> 01:24:38.000 in Jamaica by earthquake. 1690 01:24:38.720 --> 01:24:38.840 Uh. 1691 01:24:39.359 --> 01:24:41.399 And to round all this out, that ties back into 1692 01:24:41.399 --> 01:24:45.319 Assassin's Creed Black Flag because early in the game, Blackbeard 1693 01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:47.439 will tell you don't attack the British ships. We have 1694 01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:50.279 a little agreement with them. But if you attack the Spaniards, 1695 01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:52.199 that's fair game. 1696 01:24:52.680 --> 01:24:56.720 Kill them all. Put the red flag up when you 1697 01:24:56.800 --> 01:24:57.439 see those guys. 1698 01:24:58.600 --> 01:25:01.239 And that is my true or false hired segment. Now 1699 01:25:01.319 --> 01:25:03.279 I can take off this hat, but I'm not. 1700 01:25:03.319 --> 01:25:03.880 Going star. 1701 01:25:06.199 --> 01:25:09.199 Well perfect. That was a really fun game, think us. 1702 01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:11.880 I love trivia yay. 1703 01:25:12.920 --> 01:25:15.520 Also, your hat is so big that like your face. 1704 01:25:15.399 --> 01:25:18.119 Is cut off in the camera to fit almost the 1705 01:25:18.359 --> 01:25:21.119 entire segment has been more hat than Wes. 1706 01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:25.600 Yeah, so people want the longer West talked about pirates, 1707 01:25:25.680 --> 01:25:28.239 the bigger the hack. Yeah, the hat expanded. 1708 01:25:28.720 --> 01:25:31.000 I think at one point it was touching the camera. 1709 01:25:35.039 --> 01:25:37.359 Less mudges the camera just figure his hat. 1710 01:25:37.800 --> 01:25:38.000 Yeah. 1711 01:25:39.359 --> 01:25:42.520 Well, let's get into a couple more games before we 1712 01:25:42.600 --> 01:25:44.039 get out of here. I just wanted to talk really 1713 01:25:44.119 --> 01:25:48.479 quickly about a cool new game called Don't Let It Starve. 1714 01:25:48.560 --> 01:25:53.039 It's developed by somebody named Edward O. Scarpatto, and it's 1715 01:25:53.319 --> 01:25:58.079 a sort of like uh your The premise is you 1716 01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:03.119 wake up inside of a cell and you look behind 1717 01:26:03.199 --> 01:26:07.239 you and there is a sort of man, what would 1718 01:26:07.279 --> 01:26:11.199 be the right word, like a not a hallway, not 1719 01:26:11.399 --> 01:26:14.760 like a like a portal, not not not like a 1720 01:26:14.840 --> 01:26:17.920 real portal, but like a hole that connects this room 1721 01:26:18.079 --> 01:26:21.840 to another room, and like something that you can pass 1722 01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:22.520 trays through. 1723 01:26:23.560 --> 01:26:27.600 Oh oh, like a like a port a port yeah. Yeah. 1724 01:26:28.239 --> 01:26:31.560 And on the other side of that that, you know, 1725 01:26:31.840 --> 01:26:34.720 port in the darkness are just two sets of eyes, 1726 01:26:36.520 --> 01:26:41.600 and it's this monster who speaks French. He's got he 1727 01:26:41.760 --> 01:26:45.520 used a lot of French words, and he is like 1728 01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:48.560 the he's the thing you're not letting starve. Don't let 1729 01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:51.960 it starve. Don't let that monster starve. And it's like 1730 01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:57.079 a it's a chef adjacent monster, and he has like 1731 01:26:57.680 --> 01:26:59.279 certain things that he wants you to cook for him 1732 01:26:59.359 --> 01:27:02.239 and like put together. They're on binto boxes and so 1733 01:27:02.840 --> 01:27:05.359 you are you wake up. Also, it's really creepy because 1734 01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:07.520 at one point in time you turn around and I'm 1735 01:27:07.560 --> 01:27:09.880 like just like getting to know the room, and I 1736 01:27:09.960 --> 01:27:12.159 turn around and his hands are like almost at me 1737 01:27:12.319 --> 01:27:15.800 to get me. It's really creepy. And he's got like 1738 01:27:15.880 --> 01:27:18.640 multiple hands. You only ever see his arms to grab 1739 01:27:18.800 --> 01:27:19.640 trays and stuff. 1740 01:27:20.800 --> 01:27:22.680 Is he he sounds like the same vibe as the 1741 01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:24.920 game master and inscription. 1742 01:27:25.479 --> 01:27:30.600 Yes, very yeah, similar vibe and and similar to inscription. 1743 01:27:31.199 --> 01:27:34.279 You are in a room that has like puzzles that 1744 01:27:34.600 --> 01:27:38.079 like ostensibly you can maybe escape the room. I haven't 1745 01:27:38.239 --> 01:27:41.119 made it that far. But as you go and make 1746 01:27:41.159 --> 01:27:44.199 progress in the game, the you know you're gonna like 1747 01:27:44.359 --> 01:27:46.319 be looking out for clues and that kind of thing, 1748 01:27:46.359 --> 01:27:48.760 and there's notes left behind by other people who are 1749 01:27:48.800 --> 01:27:53.640 trapped in this room. But the primary, your primary goal 1750 01:27:54.520 --> 01:27:58.279 is to satisfy the hunger of the beast on the 1751 01:27:58.319 --> 01:28:01.960 other side, and you do that by making these Bento boxes. 1752 01:28:02.079 --> 01:28:05.000 But every round there's like a score that you have 1753 01:28:05.079 --> 01:28:09.079 to hit, essentially, and you only have, like at the 1754 01:28:09.119 --> 01:28:11.800 start of the game, you only have four bento boxes 1755 01:28:12.239 --> 01:28:15.279 to hit that score, and so you will when you 1756 01:28:15.359 --> 01:28:18.439 go to the bento box kind of assembly station if 1757 01:28:18.479 --> 01:28:20.399 you're looking at it, it's kind of straight on, and 1758 01:28:20.520 --> 01:28:23.079 you go and it brings up three sort of like tickets. 1759 01:28:23.079 --> 01:28:25.520 You can do a tiny bento box, a medium sized 1760 01:28:25.560 --> 01:28:28.399 bento box, and a large one, and the tiny one 1761 01:28:28.439 --> 01:28:32.399 will award you for each sort of like successful bento 1762 01:28:32.479 --> 01:28:35.560 box you create, you'll get three gold coins. For the 1763 01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:38.159 middle tier, which has like more slots for you to use, 1764 01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:41.319 and it's ostensibly it'll be easier to get a higher 1765 01:28:41.359 --> 01:28:43.840 score because you have more slots to put food on. 1766 01:28:44.560 --> 01:28:47.640 It'll give you like one gold and then the large one, 1767 01:28:48.199 --> 01:28:50.439 which you can certainly kind of reach your score with 1768 01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:53.319 most times, that actually takes away a coin from you. 1769 01:28:54.560 --> 01:28:59.640 And so above that is like a sort of there 1770 01:28:59.680 --> 01:29:02.760 are like three capsules that have food in them, and 1771 01:29:02.880 --> 01:29:06.479 so every time you take a food, it will sort 1772 01:29:06.520 --> 01:29:09.479 of reroll whatever's in those boxes, and so you're kind 1773 01:29:09.479 --> 01:29:11.720 of picking like, Okay, do I want to take a 1774 01:29:11.840 --> 01:29:13.760 sausage which is worth this amount? Do I want to 1775 01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:17.279 take a pickle or like an olive because it's only 1776 01:29:17.439 --> 01:29:20.279 it's gonna only take up one pip And actually I've 1777 01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:23.000 that's like the only food that's gonna help me complete 1778 01:29:23.039 --> 01:29:24.439 this bento because I need to fit it into this 1779 01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:28.560 one slot. And everything's kind of sort of shaped like tetris, 1780 01:29:29.119 --> 01:29:31.319 like different shapes and stuff, and you're trying to assemble 1781 01:29:31.399 --> 01:29:33.800 them to get the most amount of food on your bento. 1782 01:29:35.319 --> 01:29:37.880 And if you look to the right, if you kind 1783 01:29:37.880 --> 01:29:40.520 of step away from that main assembly station, look to 1784 01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:45.479 the right is sort of a a rotating shop that 1785 01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:48.880 has like new kinds of foods or modifiers or like 1786 01:29:49.279 --> 01:29:52.079 things that will like, oh I picked up one on 1787 01:29:52.119 --> 01:29:55.479 my run. That's like sausages are now worth extra points 1788 01:29:56.119 --> 01:29:59.880 and so okay, that's gonna like inform my run and 1789 01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:01.319 kind of like, okay, I'm gonna be looking out for 1790 01:30:01.399 --> 01:30:05.319 sausages and trying to like reroll my because everything kind 1791 01:30:05.359 --> 01:30:07.159 of uses these gold coins that you have as a 1792 01:30:07.239 --> 01:30:10.079 resource to it, and you're essentially like trying to manage 1793 01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:15.680 those gold coins to buy new foods, get modifiers while 1794 01:30:15.760 --> 01:30:19.960 also kind of juggling this like this score that increases 1795 01:30:20.039 --> 01:30:24.960 every round lest you become devoured by the beast. It's 1796 01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:28.399 really it's it's interesting, it's it's got a good vibe. 1797 01:30:28.479 --> 01:30:32.000 I'm really enjoying it so far. I think it's like 1798 01:30:32.319 --> 01:30:35.000 only eight bucks. But if you are a fan of 1799 01:30:35.039 --> 01:30:39.640 a game like Inscription or even games that are like 1800 01:30:41.199 --> 01:30:44.399 of of like these sort of like Bollatrow, like Rogue 1801 01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:48.359 Light strategy game where you're trying to get increasing multipliers 1802 01:30:48.439 --> 01:30:51.880 like and like kind of break the game and like 1803 01:30:51.960 --> 01:30:55.000 get these really high scores, this is like another one 1804 01:30:55.039 --> 01:30:57.920 of those games, except it's almost like a The Bento 1805 01:30:58.039 --> 01:31:02.159 kind of reminds me of like like a Resident Evil 1806 01:31:02.279 --> 01:31:04.880 inventory system, like you can kind of rotate things and 1807 01:31:04.960 --> 01:31:07.239 flip them around, and yeah, you're trying to. 1808 01:31:07.359 --> 01:31:08.439 Just like make some wiz. 1809 01:31:09.239 --> 01:31:11.560 There's like a similar minigame and Consume Me that you 1810 01:31:11.640 --> 01:31:12.560 play all the time. 1811 01:31:12.439 --> 01:31:15.159 Where you're like, yes, yes, that's a great shout out. 1812 01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:15.720 Yeah yeah. 1813 01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:17.800 I was going to draw comparisons to like the i 1814 01:31:17.880 --> 01:31:20.319 mean the RI four briefcase, but there was a game 1815 01:31:20.359 --> 01:31:23.479 that was about managing an R four style briefcase where 1816 01:31:23.479 --> 01:31:26.399 you're trying to fit everything and and get like the 1817 01:31:26.439 --> 01:31:27.520 best score you could out of that. 1818 01:31:28.119 --> 01:31:30.239 Yeah, so that's sort of like the run to run. 1819 01:31:30.359 --> 01:31:32.640 And then there's this I'm too early in the game 1820 01:31:32.680 --> 01:31:34.720 to have figured out like how the whole like meta 1821 01:31:35.399 --> 01:31:37.439 system works, because there's like there's a safe on the 1822 01:31:37.560 --> 01:31:40.640 wall with like numbers. There's a little scribbles around the walls, 1823 01:31:40.760 --> 01:31:42.600 like there's one I found. It's like a four leaf 1824 01:31:42.640 --> 01:31:44.159 clover and it has the number one next to it, 1825 01:31:44.199 --> 01:31:46.399 so it's like, Okay, got to figure out what that means. 1826 01:31:46.920 --> 01:31:49.359 There's clearly like an exit hatch with a lock on it. 1827 01:31:49.960 --> 01:31:52.039 There's like a series of like four bells that you 1828 01:31:52.119 --> 01:31:55.359 can ring that are that's above that latch. There's a 1829 01:31:55.399 --> 01:31:59.920 lot of like clearly like very puzzly things. There's like 1830 01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:02.680 little thing scattered on the floor that feel like they'll 1831 01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:07.640 eventually be relevant. And I haven't quite unearthed with that 1832 01:32:07.880 --> 01:32:11.319 like Crossrun sort of meta like what I'm aiming to 1833 01:32:11.399 --> 01:32:16.399 get to is yet. But it's really interesting and I'm 1834 01:32:16.800 --> 01:32:18.439 I think it's a really a really well made game. 1835 01:32:18.439 --> 01:32:21.600 It's an interesting concept, and it's got like this yeah, 1836 01:32:21.640 --> 01:32:27.319 this horror tone that I think is you know, I 1837 01:32:27.359 --> 01:32:29.880 think eventually they introduced like timers on like you have 1838 01:32:29.960 --> 01:32:34.319 to assemble this binto box quickly, and like, yeah, so yeah, 1839 01:32:34.359 --> 01:32:37.199 it's it's really effective and I'm really enjoying it. So 1840 01:32:37.239 --> 01:32:39.199 I wanted to talk about it on the show for 1841 01:32:39.239 --> 01:32:39.680 a little bit. 1842 01:32:40.760 --> 01:32:41.279 Sounds cool. 1843 01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:44.359 Yeah, that's called It has like not that many Steam 1844 01:32:44.399 --> 01:32:47.119 reviews also, so this is not like a yeah one 1845 01:32:47.199 --> 01:32:52.119 hundred and thirty very positive. Yeah, it came out June twelfth, 1846 01:32:53.520 --> 01:32:56.319 but I recommend it. It's been really fun so far, 1847 01:32:57.000 --> 01:33:00.359 and I'm gonna keep playing it again. That's called Don't 1848 01:33:00.439 --> 01:33:04.239 Let It Starve, which I have been confusing with Don't Starve, 1849 01:33:05.079 --> 01:33:09.640 the very popular survival sim games. But yeah, I recommend it. 1850 01:33:09.720 --> 01:33:15.359 It's being published by Black Lantern Collective, and they've I 1851 01:33:15.399 --> 01:33:18.960 think they usually just focus on like coreror games in general. 1852 01:33:19.199 --> 01:33:21.800 But but yeah, I wanted to shout that one out 1853 01:33:22.239 --> 01:33:24.159 and then before we before we head out, I want 1854 01:33:24.199 --> 01:33:27.279 to toss it over to Marcus. You've been playing a 1855 01:33:27.399 --> 01:33:31.159 game called Cat Mail Company, right, Yeah. 1856 01:33:31.520 --> 01:33:34.399 This is a cozy little game where you play as 1857 01:33:34.439 --> 01:33:39.680 a cat running an abandoned post office and trying to 1858 01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:42.520 basically pick up the pieces from the owner who has 1859 01:33:42.720 --> 01:33:45.560 vanished under mysterious means, don't really know much about them. 1860 01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:48.199 But this is like a post office that is like 1861 01:33:48.359 --> 01:33:52.319 on the water. So you have a delivery boat that 1862 01:33:52.520 --> 01:33:55.359 comes each day to either bring new packages or to 1863 01:33:56.000 --> 01:33:58.920 take the packages that are that people have given to you. 1864 01:33:59.399 --> 01:34:00.840 And you're pretty mu just trying to get it up 1865 01:34:00.840 --> 01:34:02.560 and running again. Like you walk in, you see like 1866 01:34:03.359 --> 01:34:08.000 piles and piles of abandoned boxes. Like literally the way 1867 01:34:08.039 --> 01:34:11.039 you unlock new areas of the post office is that 1868 01:34:12.279 --> 01:34:15.439 like some of the hallways are literally flooded with packages, 1869 01:34:15.560 --> 01:34:17.119 like just in a pile, and you have to like 1870 01:34:17.720 --> 01:34:20.399 kind of excavate them, and then the more you dig up, 1871 01:34:20.479 --> 01:34:23.279 the pile reduces, and then it'll be like, oh, there's 1872 01:34:23.319 --> 01:34:25.319 a door behind this pile that leads to a room 1873 01:34:25.319 --> 01:34:30.399 where I can fix damage packages. Okay, but it's neat, 1874 01:34:30.479 --> 01:34:33.520 it's very it's very chill. Like the basic loop is 1875 01:34:33.560 --> 01:34:36.479 that you have all these cats. Everybody in this game 1876 01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:39.680 is a cat come up to your desk and know 1877 01:34:39.920 --> 01:34:41.640 either give you a package that they want to mail 1878 01:34:41.760 --> 01:34:44.319 or they're coming to pick up a package. And if 1879 01:34:44.359 --> 01:34:48.520 they're mailing packages, you have to stamp it based on 1880 01:34:48.760 --> 01:34:51.479 which location needs to go to, like there's different other 1881 01:34:51.640 --> 01:34:54.840 islands that you gradually unlock access to throughout the game, 1882 01:34:54.960 --> 01:34:57.399 but it's like, oh, it's going to this like Lighthouse Island, 1883 01:34:57.760 --> 01:34:59.760 and you put the appropriate stamp on it. You have 1884 01:34:59.840 --> 01:35:01.960 to aid to packages, and depending on how much ways 1885 01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:04.720 you have to put x number of stamps, you eventually 1886 01:35:04.800 --> 01:35:07.960 unlock in x ray that you send packages through that 1887 01:35:08.079 --> 01:35:11.680 might reveal other attributes that need to be sort of marked, 1888 01:35:11.680 --> 01:35:14.159 whether like, oh, Okay, this thing's really heavy, I gotta 1889 01:35:14.199 --> 01:35:16.319 put like a sticker on this to let people notice 1890 01:35:16.399 --> 01:35:19.640 is heavy, or this package has something inside of it 1891 01:35:19.720 --> 01:35:21.760 it needs to be kept frozen. And then eventually you 1892 01:35:21.840 --> 01:35:24.439 open up a section of the post office that has 1893 01:35:24.479 --> 01:35:26.800 a freezer and you can stick the packages this in 1894 01:35:26.920 --> 01:35:31.000 there until the boat comes to collect them. And then 1895 01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:33.319 if someone's coming to pick up a package, they walk 1896 01:35:33.399 --> 01:35:35.680 in and a lot of them are kind of idiots 1897 01:35:35.920 --> 01:35:39.800 in the sense that they come with like barely information 1898 01:35:39.920 --> 01:35:42.239 about the thing that they have come to retrieve, whether 1899 01:35:42.319 --> 01:35:44.039 it's for them or if they're picking it up for 1900 01:35:44.119 --> 01:35:46.720 a family member. And I say idiots in like a 1901 01:35:46.840 --> 01:35:49.800 cute way, like they're cute dummies, and they're like, I 1902 01:35:49.840 --> 01:35:52.880 don't know, man, I just notice package has a yellow ribbon, 1903 01:35:53.520 --> 01:35:56.279 and it's like literally, there's some casts that are like 1904 01:35:56.920 --> 01:36:00.039 pretty sure this package is cube shape this box and 1905 01:36:00.079 --> 01:36:02.399 they're like, oh okay, well I've got a hundred of those. 1906 01:36:02.479 --> 01:36:05.720 Let me go through those real quick, and they'll give 1907 01:36:05.760 --> 01:36:09.239 you like like each package has a first name and 1908 01:36:09.319 --> 01:36:12.039 a last initial, so sometimes someone will come in and 1909 01:36:12.119 --> 01:36:13.600 give you the full name to person's you have to go, 1910 01:36:13.680 --> 01:36:15.520 but like, okay, that last name starts with an S. 1911 01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:18.720 Let me go through all my S packages and see 1912 01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:21.760 which ones it might be. And the space that you're 1913 01:36:21.800 --> 01:36:24.159 in sort of the storage room. You can organize your 1914 01:36:24.199 --> 01:36:26.760 packages however you want, like you have like multiple shelves 1915 01:36:27.079 --> 01:36:31.399 of different types and so like whatever organization method makes 1916 01:36:31.439 --> 01:36:33.600 the most sense to you, you go with them, like 1917 01:36:33.680 --> 01:36:36.239 whether you want to arrange it by the destination that 1918 01:36:36.319 --> 01:36:39.279 they came from or by the special attributes of like okay, 1919 01:36:39.279 --> 01:36:42.239 I'm gonna put all my super heavy packages over here, 1920 01:36:42.800 --> 01:36:46.039 or you can put them alphabetically. It's just whatever your 1921 01:36:46.119 --> 01:36:49.199 brain sort of sings with, which I like. But it's 1922 01:36:49.199 --> 01:36:54.159 a very like laid back game, like time advances every 1923 01:36:54.239 --> 01:36:57.560 time you deal with a customer. But when you don't 1924 01:36:57.600 --> 01:37:00.920 deal with a customer, which you act manually like you 1925 01:37:00.960 --> 01:37:03.279 have like a little desk bell that you ring when 1926 01:37:03.319 --> 01:37:04.880 you want to deal with someone. But when you're not 1927 01:37:05.119 --> 01:37:08.039 doing that, you're free to just kind of do whatever 1928 01:37:08.079 --> 01:37:11.239 you want without consequence, whether it's oh, I want to 1929 01:37:11.359 --> 01:37:15.199 organize the space a bit, or you're finding like pictures 1930 01:37:15.239 --> 01:37:17.640 where you see all these blank spaces on walls and decorations, 1931 01:37:17.640 --> 01:37:19.119 where it's like, oh, I'm gonna fill out all these 1932 01:37:19.920 --> 01:37:22.720 decoration spaces. Maybe I'll get like a reward for that 1933 01:37:22.960 --> 01:37:26.840 or something. And also just maybe like gradually revealing you 1934 01:37:27.039 --> 01:37:30.319 used to occupy this space because you're seeing like pictures 1935 01:37:30.359 --> 01:37:33.000 of a people living here and you're like, okay, like 1936 01:37:33.079 --> 01:37:35.439 maybe this is the owner that vanish. Maybe we're gonna 1937 01:37:35.479 --> 01:37:37.800 learn something about them. Because the only other character, at 1938 01:37:37.880 --> 01:37:39.800 least so far, I've interacted with that isn't a customer 1939 01:37:39.920 --> 01:37:42.479 is the boat captain who comes by us said he 1940 01:37:42.600 --> 01:37:46.840 seems relatively clueless about like, oh, you're not the person 1941 01:37:46.880 --> 01:37:49.039 I usually deal with, but whatever. I guess. I don't 1942 01:37:49.079 --> 01:37:51.760 get paid enough to test too many questions. I'm just here, yeah, 1943 01:37:52.119 --> 01:37:55.359 give you your packages. But it's nice. I've enjoyed it 1944 01:37:55.960 --> 01:38:00.159 as a very much like a second screen game. Okay, 1945 01:38:00.199 --> 01:38:03.760 I'm gonna have like a podcast on or I'm gonna 1946 01:38:03.800 --> 01:38:05.960 watch some just something on the other screen while I'm 1947 01:38:06.079 --> 01:38:09.119 just dealing with these cats. But it's fun. There are 1948 01:38:09.159 --> 01:38:12.199 some annoyances, like my biggest hang up with the game 1949 01:38:12.319 --> 01:38:15.680 is that it doesn't auto save frequently enough, Like it 1950 01:38:15.800 --> 01:38:19.359 only saves after every shift. So you have a day 1951 01:38:19.479 --> 01:38:22.319 shift and a night shift. Yeah, and each shift is 1952 01:38:22.439 --> 01:38:24.560 a certain number of customers that you have to get through, 1953 01:38:24.920 --> 01:38:26.439 and if you try to exit the game before you 1954 01:38:26.560 --> 01:38:29.279 end your shift, it just won't, like it'll tell you 1955 01:38:29.399 --> 01:38:31.800 the last time you save, and sometimes it'll go like 1956 01:38:32.039 --> 01:38:34.840 thirty minutes to an hour, depending on how long it 1957 01:38:34.920 --> 01:38:38.159 takes you to either find someone's packages, because again, somebody's 1958 01:38:38.159 --> 01:38:40.640 package descriptions and you have so many all the time 1959 01:38:41.239 --> 01:38:44.439 that you're just going through each one trying to inspect them, 1960 01:38:44.600 --> 01:38:46.960 like is this the one if they want so that can, 1961 01:38:47.960 --> 01:38:50.319 Like it is annoying having to get through a whole 1962 01:38:50.319 --> 01:38:52.039 shit before it's like okay, now it can quit the game. 1963 01:38:52.079 --> 01:38:55.319 So I wish I could just save any time and 1964 01:38:55.399 --> 01:38:59.680 then some many other package descriptions can be or not 1965 01:38:59.680 --> 01:39:02.479 even the package description, but some of the rules of 1966 01:39:02.520 --> 01:39:04.199 the game could be a little vague in terms of 1967 01:39:04.800 --> 01:39:06.439 I was trying to figure out for the longest time 1968 01:39:06.680 --> 01:39:08.920 because some packages I've had for like ever, and I'm like, 1969 01:39:08.960 --> 01:39:12.079 are these people ever gonna come for somebody? And then 1970 01:39:12.079 --> 01:39:14.359 I was on and since there were there when you 1971 01:39:14.680 --> 01:39:17.079 start the game, I kept wondering, like, do I think 1972 01:39:17.079 --> 01:39:18.680 if they see a bow captain or are they supposed 1973 01:39:18.680 --> 01:39:21.000 to be sent out? Is that why no one's come prettise? 1974 01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:23.520 But I don't know. I feel like he would I 1975 01:39:23.560 --> 01:39:26.560 would get a notification if I was taking too long 1976 01:39:26.640 --> 01:39:29.079 meal on these packages. I don't know, Like you kind 1977 01:39:29.119 --> 01:39:31.920 of at the end of a shift, you're awarded points 1978 01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:36.119 for how many packages you correctly labeled in shipped to 1979 01:39:36.159 --> 01:39:39.720 their correct destinations. If you label something wrong, it'll be 1980 01:39:39.920 --> 01:39:42.119 sent back to you and it might be damaged the 1981 01:39:42.199 --> 01:39:45.000 next day, so you have to worry about that. But 1982 01:39:45.079 --> 01:39:48.399 then I guess as you level up, you unlock like 1983 01:39:48.840 --> 01:39:51.279 just a little milestones happened with the story where it's like, again, 1984 01:39:51.319 --> 01:39:53.359 you might find a key to a room that you 1985 01:39:53.359 --> 01:39:56.359 didn't have before or stuff like that. But other than 1986 01:39:56.359 --> 01:39:58.680 those hangs up, it's cool, like it's it's just nice. 1987 01:39:58.840 --> 01:40:01.520 It's like a nice little break. I just wish I 1988 01:40:01.520 --> 01:40:04.520 could save whenever I want. That's honestly, with the game, 1989 01:40:04.560 --> 01:40:07.439 it's not fair enough. Yeah, it's it's like working at 1990 01:40:07.439 --> 01:40:09.840 a real job. I can't just walk out anytime I want. 1991 01:40:09.880 --> 01:40:11.319 I gotta wait for the end of my ship where 1992 01:40:11.319 --> 01:40:11.880 I can go home. 1993 01:40:13.640 --> 01:40:15.399 Well, I think especially the way you're playing it with 1994 01:40:15.520 --> 01:40:17.560 it with it as like a second screen game two 1995 01:40:17.600 --> 01:40:18.840 of like you just kind of want to pick it 1996 01:40:18.920 --> 01:40:20.800 up for like twenty minutes and then put it down and. 1997 01:40:20.840 --> 01:40:22.319 Be able to save an annoying right. 1998 01:40:22.520 --> 01:40:24.640 Yeah, yeah, you got to like finish it out as Yeah, 1999 01:40:24.720 --> 01:40:24.960 just kid. 2000 01:40:25.039 --> 01:40:26.920 Yeah, it's like, oh my show's over. I'm ready to 2001 01:40:26.960 --> 01:40:28.640 do something else, but I gotta do like two more 2002 01:40:28.680 --> 01:40:30.279 I gotta do with two more customers before I can 2003 01:40:30.319 --> 01:40:31.479 clock out. Yeah. 2004 01:40:33.079 --> 01:40:35.960 Well cool, Well I think that's gonna be it for 2005 01:40:36.199 --> 01:40:39.159 the podcast this week. Do you just want to say, 2006 01:40:39.640 --> 01:40:42.720 please go pick up a copy of Game Informer magazine, 2007 01:40:43.399 --> 01:40:46.920 Game Informer dot Com slash subscribe of course if you're 2008 01:40:46.960 --> 01:40:48.520 in the US and want to pick up a subscription, 2009 01:40:49.479 --> 01:40:53.119 or or find us on newsstands around the world. Thank 2010 01:40:53.159 --> 01:40:56.119 you for listening. 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