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<v Speaker 1>You see, something's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going to happen? What? Welcome to the Occult Rejects.

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<v Speaker 1>In this episode, I got my partner in crime, my

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<v Speaker 1>co host, Lisa the Occult reject med scientist with me today.

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<v Speaker 1>What is up, Lisa? How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry I was on me.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a truck passing by at the same time.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm good. I'm looking forward to this. This is a

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<v Speaker 4>really interesting topic. I'm very very intrigued.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, I'm always down to talk about some Crowley

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<v Speaker 1>Parsons and UFOs and today to talk about that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We got my boy Tim from sixth Century Podcast. Tim,

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<v Speaker 1>please let everybody know, like what your deal is even

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<v Speaker 1>let them know like kind of what your show's about

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<v Speaker 1>and where they can find the links and everything for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Sure, I'm Tim Constantine. My podcast is sixth Censory Podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>I spell Out six six. My show is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a blend right now of hidden history, alternative theories, conspiracy,

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<v Speaker 2>just that kind of stuff. And I'm on Spotify, Apple, YouTube,

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<v Speaker 2>and Patreon. But it was just like, you know, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>people hear this and people say this all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>but twenty twenty sort of like changed everything for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, like I'm you know, that's kind of redundant

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<v Speaker 2>right now, but you know, it was. It was podcasts

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty that really kind of set me straight

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<v Speaker 2>because those were the only that was the only place

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<v Speaker 2>I was hearing the truth anywhere in the world was

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<v Speaker 2>on podcasts in twenty twenty. So I got into this

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<v Speaker 2>because I saw it as a forum for outlaws, and

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<v Speaker 2>I saw that podcas casts were kind of reigniting the

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<v Speaker 2>commerce of ideas, and I have a lot of ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why I started my show. And also I

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<v Speaker 2>started researching in twenty twenty because I had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of questions for like, because I'm seeing the world differently

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<v Speaker 2>and I have all these questions that I'm looking for

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<v Speaker 2>answers for and so that just kind of propelled me

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<v Speaker 2>to start researching. And I just since twenty twenty I

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<v Speaker 2>started researching. I just never stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great, I love it. Yeah, twenty twenty was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge kick off a podcast. Mind myself included was in there.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, oh you started yours in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, I know, I'm like, I just hit my

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<v Speaker 1>full year mark, so I had to be around there. Yeah, yeah, interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, where else was there being I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to overuse the word truth, but where else

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<v Speaker 2>was anybody hearing the truth from twenty twenty till almost now,

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<v Speaker 2>but especially twenty twenty through like twenty twenty two, like

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<v Speaker 2>it was all lie Everything outside of podcasting was lies.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they ain't even unfortunately in podcasting. Fifty percent.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, yeah, I agree with that because yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>I'm speaking in generalities right now when I'm talking about podcasting,

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<v Speaker 5>but you're absolutely right, like you get within podcasting, there was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a niche little group that I think where people

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<v Speaker 2>were sort of kind of they didn't know if their

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<v Speaker 2>their show was going to get shut down, and they'd

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<v Speaker 2>say it anyway. I thought that that was a good

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's a good sign when these guys like

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<v Speaker 2>when okay, you have one guy who like his YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>just got shut down last week for saying something and

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<v Speaker 2>he knows exactly what he said that got him kicked

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<v Speaker 2>off YouTube, but now he's on another platform and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>screw it, I'm gonna say it anyway because it's the

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<v Speaker 2>truth and I think it needs to be said. So

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<v Speaker 2>when I saw people doing that. I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I found some good some good stuff here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on my fourth YouTube account actually.

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<v Speaker 2>At this are you? Yeah? It was, uh can I

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<v Speaker 2>what can I say?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you care if I say anything?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? No, you're fine. If it's true bad, I just

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<v Speaker 1>won't drop it on YouTube. But no, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to send to myself for the platform. I just won't

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<v Speaker 1>use the platform.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, I was just gonna say. You know, one

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<v Speaker 2>of my buddies who's a podcaster, got asked from YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, uh gate, p oh yeah, pepper gate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you talk about pdf files. They get they get

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<v Speaker 1>a little leary on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, what was it for you?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Almost every time that does it medical misinformation

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<v Speaker 1>mm hmmm. And the crazy thing is it's like always

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<v Speaker 1>in a in a I'm totally honest with you, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even really talk about that stuff too much too

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<v Speaker 1>or that situation that will get you strikes. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>like these random shows that it's like completely off topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Somehow the guests that I have on will like have

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<v Speaker 1>a reason, well really no reason, but somehow finds reason

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<v Speaker 1>to throw in just a jab at that and it

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<v Speaker 1>fucking catches it and it hits like I've had three

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<v Speaker 1>strikes just due to William Ramsey actually believe it or

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<v Speaker 1>not really, and it's not even covering topics on that topic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's somehow like he you know, still likes to make

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<v Speaker 1>comments about it constantly, which I understand. Somehow we'll bring

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<v Speaker 1>it up like in the middle of conversation for fucking

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<v Speaker 1>ten second strike.

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<v Speaker 2>Mmmmm, just like like he's he's on a totally different

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<v Speaker 2>topic and then he'll just mention something about the JAB

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<v Speaker 2>and that that's what.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's never no listen, I would know not

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<v Speaker 1>even to put that on YouTube. If it was solely

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<v Speaker 1>on that topic. I wouldn't even risk it, you know, no, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well that's I don't know. We'll see, man,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe those days are behind us. I don't know. Like

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<v Speaker 2>with yeah, I don't even want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Get when the next one kicks in, then maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>let off on the old one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there's a new YouTube, Papa, a new alternative to

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<v Speaker 6>YouTube up that's actually you know, really doing something, really

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<v Speaker 6>drawing people, really pulling numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, they need you know what the problem Well

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion rumble the player sucks kind of my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, just the quality isn't that good, And like, bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd for a creator. It's like I can only upload

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<v Speaker 1>two gigs of a video, Like what the fuck I

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<v Speaker 1>got to compress everything. It's just it's not even worth

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<v Speaker 1>it to me. Yeah, they do need to like come

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<v Speaker 1>up with a better, a better alternative in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it'd be cool to see someone do that, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>someone from the space, if one of us could like

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<v Speaker 2>somehow generate the money to do that, because that's the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that's expensive. Even just building a little app is expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>So but they're, you know what for for the intense

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<v Speaker 2>and purposes of this show today, they don't seem to

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<v Speaker 2>be cracking down on the occult, not for me. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I can talk about the occult all day long, and

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<v Speaker 2>nobody seems to care.

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<v Speaker 1>Say that to people, because like how will you like

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<v Speaker 1>how do you not deal with you? Because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the people that I do work with around me,

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<v Speaker 1>like won't even mess with you too, because they can't

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<v Speaker 1>even stay on another discount, you know whatever. They get

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<v Speaker 1>strikes or whatever problems all the places, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how do you not have problems, and I'm like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>enough of nothing when it comes to the occult, and

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you're kind of like this is my theory,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're gonna have at it all day, real opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing that I've come up against with the

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<v Speaker 2>occult is like sometimes I'll manage to tick off everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'll tick off.

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<v Speaker 1>The somebody probably flagging you than actually you too, even

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<v Speaker 1>having a problem with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I mean we're just so programmed to I

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<v Speaker 2>mean the supernatural, which I kind of delve into that

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<v Speaker 2>when I research the supernatural was stripped out of science.

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<v Speaker 2>It goes way back, but it like really kicks in

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<v Speaker 2>the gear with the Royal Society and the hux Leys

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<v Speaker 2>and all that they you know a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>in Darwinism when that started getting pumped through the institutions

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<v Speaker 2>and then it starts getting pumped out into the state

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<v Speaker 2>education system that did its part to strip out the

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<v Speaker 2>supernatural for science, but also the church has had the

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<v Speaker 2>supernatural stripped out as well, and it goes way back.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it goes back to I know, like even

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<v Speaker 2>like the late sixteen hundreds you had alchemists like Johanna's

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<v Speaker 2>Kelpus getting pushed out of Europe by the church and

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<v Speaker 2>by the state. He had to come to Pennsylvania in

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<v Speaker 2>the late sixteen hundreds because Pennsylvania had the loosest religion

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<v Speaker 2>laws on the planet. So you also had that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of oppression going on. So and it still lingers today,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'll still have people confused about like what are

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<v Speaker 2>you saying, because I'm taking off their modern Christian perspective

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes I'm taking off like the evolutionist Darwinians Darwinian

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<v Speaker 2>perspective as well. But I'm not trying to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, it happens everybody at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know where you guys stand

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<v Speaker 2>with the supernatural. I don't know how. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you like to go into that stuff or or what.

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<v Speaker 1>But oh, for sure, no, I I do entertain, Uh

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<v Speaker 1>do you entertain the paranormal? The supernatural? Probably more from

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<v Speaker 1>an ocultist point of view, and uh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>could look at I haven't really covered it as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I would like on the show, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>look at UFOs and like aliens more of a cult

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<v Speaker 1>ideas or side effects of magic or I'll just be

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<v Speaker 1>totally honest with you. I think it's just a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a comic book story that occultists know they can sell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, well, you know, I think I think I

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<v Speaker 2>have a very I think I have a parallel perspective

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<v Speaker 2>to that, honestly, because I'm starting to see this whole

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<v Speaker 2>disclosure UFO thing with with major major occult ties and

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<v Speaker 2>and and I'll get I'll get into that actually, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it's started for me. Like my research

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<v Speaker 2>is predicated on the year nineteen forty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's part of itthing.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that supposedly died. I do wonder if if it's

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<v Speaker 1>like that name just got canceled and he got reissued

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<v Speaker 1>at different ones, you know, with something else.

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<v Speaker 2>H Uh. Everything that I'm going to get into, occult

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<v Speaker 2>wise kicks off in forty seven. I think that that

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<v Speaker 2>year was If you humor me for a second, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that year and I'll come back to crow

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<v Speaker 2>and to your point, Yeah, he died in forty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>and that might play into this as well. But I

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<v Speaker 2>see forty seven as a catalyst for change that molded

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<v Speaker 2>the world that we're in right now. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>you had granted, you had the war raging before nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven, and the Nazi enterprise was causing chaos. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that the Nazis themselves were born out of an

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<v Speaker 2>occult revolution that was started in Germany that was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of foemitting in the early nineteen hundreds, that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>gave way to that war. But after the war, nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven was the threshold.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, my boy, Not to interrupt you, but like

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, my boy, my boy, Thrash is gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>if you can find it again, he says. Now he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks it's going on for YouTube. He said he's found videos.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, that's actually like you know, obviously old videos

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<v Speaker 1>of like Hitler giving speeches and like people actually translating

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<v Speaker 1>it correctly. And he says, yo, there's somewhere he actually

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<v Speaker 1>gets into saying this isn't a Cold War out of

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<v Speaker 1>his own mouth to the people, and he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>it to me. But I mean, he said that he's

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<v Speaker 1>actually seen it. As long as the translation is correct.

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<v Speaker 1>She said it to the fucking people in Germany.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And it wasn't just Hitler. There was some

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<v Speaker 2>other people high up in the Reich that were saying

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<v Speaker 2>things publicly just like that. There was one guy who

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<v Speaker 2>said that the German people saw I'm going to mess

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<v Speaker 2>this up because I haven't seen it in a while,

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<v Speaker 2>but I read this, and it was they were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about how the uh, the old German mysticism was mixing

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<v Speaker 2>blood and soil and all that Himmler stuff was mixing

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<v Speaker 2>with this new Nazi nationalist socialism stuff or fascism, and

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<v Speaker 2>there was like this blend of the state with the

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<v Speaker 2>occult that the Germans were all about, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of fueling everything they did. It was kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, uh, the of the engine that was driving

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<v Speaker 2>the car, that is the Nazi empire. But they and

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<v Speaker 2>they would acknowledge it publicly to your point, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Thing interesting too that I think people should think about. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll even use this to preface it this way. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand he put out a book. Now, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>even the way I think and look at certain things

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<v Speaker 1>since I've started this podcast is completely so I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that that guy stuck to his opinion in the

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<v Speaker 1>way of thinking in that book. But what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get at is that how long was that guy

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<v Speaker 1>in power for? I don't know exactly? Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>any of yous know exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he it was, he came to power and

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<v Speaker 2>I think in the late twenties, but he was. It

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<v Speaker 2>was definitely from nineteen thirty to nineteen forty five.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he started, he started in nineteen thirty three,

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<v Speaker 4>that was when he gave his speech, and then he

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<v Speaker 4>was initiated in as the main person.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. So for about fourteen years this guy was

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<v Speaker 1>out there. I mean, I'm sure he was ranting a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe we'll say eight years because I think at

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<v Speaker 1>one point he did kind of stop seeing the people

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<v Speaker 1>as much. But whatever, we whatever, whatever long time it was.

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<v Speaker 1>How much footage do we really have on his speeches?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, think about that, maybe a few hours.

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<v Speaker 4>Wasn't one of the international televised speech his speech and

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<v Speaker 4>was the opening for the Olympics?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that wrong? I remembering that wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>They did host the guys.

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<v Speaker 4>It was one of the very first televised national thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Because they had talked about how if to extraterrestrials were

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<v Speaker 4>to you know, how whenever things happen and it goes

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<v Speaker 4>out in space, right, it reverberates and it continues on.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't ever stop. The theory is that it continues

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<v Speaker 4>on into outer space and just whatever. And so if

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<v Speaker 4>anybody was tuning in to the very first broadcast of

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<v Speaker 4>the television, it would be Hitler's broadcast of the opening

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<v Speaker 4>games of the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because the TV had just been put out. It

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<v Speaker 2>was German guy who yeah, yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well just hold I would just hold on. Just

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<v Speaker 1>what I was trying to get at. Actually, sorry, was

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<v Speaker 1>that with the amount of time that he's been around there.

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<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, there isn't much video audio footage if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to think percentage of how much he was

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<v Speaker 1>running his mouth and how much is available to you

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<v Speaker 1>to hear. There was a lot missing. Probably that he

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<v Speaker 1>was saying to the people that we never will know

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<v Speaker 1>because we weren't over there. That's what I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and a lot of that stuff has not been

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<v Speaker 2>translated either. All all those German guys who were Indian

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<v Speaker 2>on a nerve based society who were going all over

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<v Speaker 2>the world looking for a cult artifacts. Essentially, Himmler put

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<v Speaker 2>together what's called the on a nerb based society. It

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<v Speaker 2>was it's a it's another major occult sort of thing

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<v Speaker 2>they did. It was it was like an occult organization

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<v Speaker 2>that had state funding, which is crazy. You don't see

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<v Speaker 2>that happen much throughout history. And all those guys didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go to Nuremberg. They all quiet lee got sent out

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<v Speaker 2>to the institutions of academia all over the world and

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<v Speaker 2>they all published books. But a lot of their books

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<v Speaker 2>about what they did in the Onna nerve Bous Society

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<v Speaker 2>is still in German. So like over here, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>know anything about this because the books still haven't been translated.

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<v Speaker 2>It is true.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true for their scientific articles as well, they're all

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<v Speaker 3>still in German.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, and so yeah, Like to your point, you

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<v Speaker 2>got speeches, and you've got these scientific journals and books

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<v Speaker 2>and articles and et cetera, all still in German. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>has gone through and translated them. It would just it

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<v Speaker 2>would blow the doors off of what we think we

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<v Speaker 2>know pertaining to the Nazis because at Nuremberg, from what

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell, Winston Churchill and some of the Americans said,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not even going to talk about the call any here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to We're going to focus on war crimes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to be our big thing. Because I went

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<v Speaker 2>back and read through Carl Donuts Nuremberg testimony, and like,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy was put he took Hitler's place at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the war. He was he was the major

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<v Speaker 2>Nazi navy guy. He had all those Antarctica ties, he

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<v Speaker 2>knew all this crazy stuff. And they just redundantly just

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<v Speaker 2>all they do is is pulverize with him with questions

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<v Speaker 2>concerning war crimes. Instead of asking him, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>why were you guys having bases on the North Pole

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<v Speaker 2>and then the Antarctica and and instead of questioning about, well,

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<v Speaker 2>did you guys really sneak Hitler out via Hugh Boat?

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't ask him any of the good stuff. They

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<v Speaker 2>just stet to stuff to war crimes because they and

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<v Speaker 2>and and they left all the occult stuff out. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's all this stuff we just don't understand about them still,

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<v Speaker 2>and that that war just it. I put it like this,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're work who shook the foundations that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of rattled the frames, and like not the doorway loose.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It's kind of like in the movies where

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<v Speaker 2>you see like there's a highest and they pack explosives

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<v Speaker 2>and put dynamite around the vault and boom, it just

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<v Speaker 2>goes off. And then after a few minutes, like the

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<v Speaker 2>smoke clears and the vault door just like creeps open slowly,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's that's nineteen forty seven. Is that door creeping open?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that it marked a new era for humanity.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's when we stepped through. Because forty seven

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<v Speaker 2>the Nazis are integrating with us with their technology paperclip.

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<v Speaker 2>We know all about that. But also the state of

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<v Speaker 2>Israel was founded, the nation of Israel. And I'll say

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<v Speaker 2>this real quick, I don't blame people foreseeing that as prophetic,

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<v Speaker 2>because back into a century BC, in a book called

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<v Speaker 2>a Septuagent, it says Israel will one day become a nation.

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<v Speaker 2>So in forty seven it becomes a nation. Also in

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven you have Roswell, so that brings in all

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<v Speaker 2>this UFO stuff. The modern UFO movement was born. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>come back to that. The Air Force was nineteen forty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>and what's funny is twenty days after Roswell, Truman signed

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<v Speaker 2>a National Security Act that creates the Air Force. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that a coincidence that it was made? You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>have a whole war in the forties raging, and they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't create the Air Force. They waited till after Roswell.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. And like also the National Security Council was

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty seven. Those are the top members of our

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<v Speaker 2>government who sort of facilitate America's empire of war. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at it, since they enacted that in

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven, we really haven't fought a legitimate war since

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<v Speaker 2>so CIA was nineteen forty seven. I just see all

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<v Speaker 2>these big changes. But like with Roswell, you also had

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<v Speaker 2>Kenneth Arnold and the Mario Island incident in forty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>and those are three major UFO instance that collectively mark

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of our Like I said, earlier relationship with

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<v Speaker 2>this UFO phenomena, and like the Men in Black was

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<v Speaker 2>also nineteen forty seven, there was Men in Black encounter

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<v Speaker 2>with that Marie Island thing. So it's just the notion

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<v Speaker 2>that we aren't alone and that we aren't being visited

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<v Speaker 2>that was sort of put on us in nineteen forty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>So.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I just see that that's when things

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<v Speaker 2>start to get weird, and there's you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>thought that our advancements in technology have been unnatural because

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<v Speaker 2>of the Nazis and because of Roswell and because and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it goes back to this occult stuff with

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<v Speaker 2>the Nazis and even with Roswell, I think something a

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<v Speaker 2>cult was going on there. But if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the work of Linda Moulten, how she traced circuitry, and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see the other one fiber optics, back to nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven, where and this is the stuff I think

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<v Speaker 2>that was going to help us facilitate and create an Internet,

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<v Speaker 2>and it mysteriously emerges in nineteen forty seven right after

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<v Speaker 2>Roswell as well, So that's where it creeps in. And

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<v Speaker 2>like for me, it kind of goes back to, well,

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<v Speaker 2>is our technology coming from a natural place or what?

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<v Speaker 2>Because where did the Nazis get it? Because we still

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<v Speaker 2>don't know where they got it either. But for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at ancient Egypt, their science and their

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<v Speaker 2>culture seems to have been revealed to them rather than

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<v Speaker 2>the developed by them. And for me, that goes back

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<v Speaker 2>to the isis who's the first alchemist. She studied magic,

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<v Speaker 2>which opened up a doorway for her to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to talk with angels. Where she didn't talk to a

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<v Speaker 2>higher panel of angels. She started getting connected with this

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<v Speaker 2>angelic room and she learned the mysteries. And that's how

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of technology was supposedly given to the Egyptian people,

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<v Speaker 2>was through avenues like that. And I see parallels with that,

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<v Speaker 2>with Crowley and with the Babylon working, which i'll you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get into in a minute. But the other thing

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to lay out nineteen forty seven because

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<v Speaker 2>I think once I get into my main like meat

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<v Speaker 2>and potatoes here, all that stuff will kind of fall

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<v Speaker 2>into place, because all this stuff that's happening in forty

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<v Speaker 2>seven there it parallels this goddess ishtar that I've been

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<v Speaker 2>looking at, because I think she might actually be involved

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<v Speaker 2>with the modern UFO phenomenon and maybe some of those

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<v Speaker 2>major changes that we talked about for forty seven. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to jump into her because I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>hear anybody talking about this, and she's she was very

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<v Speaker 2>much she very much presented herself to Jack Parsons into Crowley,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, so I'll lay that out. But she's also

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<v Speaker 2>in the Anonaki tablets, she's in the Bible. She's all

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<v Speaker 2>across Mesopotamian and Mediterranean history, and it's almost like she's

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<v Speaker 2>been hard to nail down because she goes by different names.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've been like looking into her. I've been finding

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<v Speaker 2>all these fingerprints, so I've been trying to put together

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<v Speaker 2>this profile. But she goes by Ishtar, Ashtar, and Nana.

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<v Speaker 2>She's also known as Aphrodite Venus start Day, and she's

421
00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:57.599
<v Speaker 2>the goddess Babylon, which ties her into the twentieth century

422
00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:01.559
<v Speaker 2>occultism in a major, major way. So she's been around

423
00:24:01.599 --> 00:24:04.799
<v Speaker 2>for a long time. And the reason I started seeing

424
00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:08.200
<v Speaker 2>her as possibly being involved with this UFO thing is

425
00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:10.640
<v Speaker 2>because I think it's been going on for a long time.

426
00:24:12.279 --> 00:24:15.759
<v Speaker 2>People will remember Gilgamesh, that tomb that we found recently,

427
00:24:16.359 --> 00:24:20.000
<v Speaker 2>right before the Iraq War, we found the tomb of Gilgamesh.

428
00:24:20.119 --> 00:24:22.440
<v Speaker 2>I looked into him some when he ruled in Eric.

429
00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:27.960
<v Speaker 2>She was the main deity that they worshiped there, and

430
00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:31.240
<v Speaker 2>there's a legend she was going by Anana at this time.

431
00:24:31.279 --> 00:24:34.319
<v Speaker 2>There was a legend that she wanted Gilgamesh to go

432
00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:36.640
<v Speaker 2>up into the skies with her because she liked to

433
00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:41.839
<v Speaker 2>fly the skies of Earth. Gilgamesh declined because he said,

434
00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:44.119
<v Speaker 2>all the men who go up with you never come back,

435
00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:47.759
<v Speaker 2>so she got she was driven to anger by this.

436
00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:53.799
<v Speaker 2>She went after Gilgamesh for declining her. The story goes

437
00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:58.680
<v Speaker 2>that Gilgamesh's friend saved him from an assassin. That Anon assent.

438
00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:02.440
<v Speaker 2>But when you look at the story, I think what

439
00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:05.880
<v Speaker 2>you learn is that she likes control. She wanted control

440
00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:09.119
<v Speaker 2>of his kingdom, so she has this sort of a

441
00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:13.359
<v Speaker 2>personality about her. And also that story, to me, is

442
00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:16.319
<v Speaker 2>an indication that she from early on is associated with

443
00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:19.759
<v Speaker 2>flying in disguise, and she's she comes out of the

444
00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Sumerian pantheon. That's as far back as we can trace her.

445
00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:26.960
<v Speaker 2>She comes out of the Ananaki stuff and the Samerian stuff.

446
00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:29.839
<v Speaker 2>And what you see with them is they all they

447
00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:34.680
<v Speaker 2>always have depicted a sphere with wings, and I think

448
00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:37.039
<v Speaker 2>that indicates that they had some sort of flying device.

449
00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:42.279
<v Speaker 2>So uh, and she pops up all over the place

450
00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:45.400
<v Speaker 2>too in the ancient world. That that's another thing. I'm like,

451
00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:47.440
<v Speaker 2>how does she manage to be in two places at once?

452
00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:50.759
<v Speaker 2>Because there's a legend where she buried her lover Damuzi

453
00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:54.599
<v Speaker 2>in all the way down in South Africa, in this

454
00:25:54.759 --> 00:25:57.720
<v Speaker 2>very interesting region where the gods were creating chime eras

455
00:25:57.720 --> 00:25:59.359
<v Speaker 2>and doing a lot of stuff that you see in

456
00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:03.559
<v Speaker 2>the Book of Knock and Genesis six. And there she is.

457
00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:06.720
<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, Nebu Kenezer builds the Ishtar

458
00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:09.160
<v Speaker 2>gate for her to kind of come through in like parade.

459
00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:12.359
<v Speaker 2>So how she in Iraq and South Africa at the

460
00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:15.200
<v Speaker 2>same time. So I think she was flying the skies,

461
00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:18.160
<v Speaker 2>and I think it goes back to that sphere with wings.

462
00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:23.680
<v Speaker 2>And I think in fact, you see that I mentioned Isis.

463
00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:27.079
<v Speaker 2>It's a symbol you see later used by this group

464
00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:29.920
<v Speaker 2>of alchemists in Egypt who are associated with the zet Tepe.

465
00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:33.519
<v Speaker 2>They also got this symbol handed down to them from Isis.

466
00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:36.559
<v Speaker 2>So you see it with Ishtar, and you see it

467
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:38.680
<v Speaker 2>with Samerians, and you see it with the Egyptians. And

468
00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:42.039
<v Speaker 2>it goes back to these technologies that come from an

469
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:44.839
<v Speaker 2>angelic race. They're talking to somebody on the other side

470
00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:48.480
<v Speaker 2>of the veil and they're getting these technologies. So I

471
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:51.720
<v Speaker 2>see that sphere with wings telling because by the way,

472
00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:54.960
<v Speaker 2>when they put the wings on there. It doesn't mean

473
00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:58.680
<v Speaker 2>it had wings. They're just depicting it that way to

474
00:26:58.759 --> 00:27:01.880
<v Speaker 2>tell you this fly. It's just like all the old

475
00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:06.200
<v Speaker 2>angels and all the old frescoes and and and you know,

476
00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:09.440
<v Speaker 2>nobody in the ancient world who had an angelic sighting

477
00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:14.680
<v Speaker 2>said they had wings. That was given to them in

478
00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:17.960
<v Speaker 2>paintings to depict that they flew the skies. I think

479
00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:21.000
<v Speaker 2>that's why they gave the wings to the sphere. So,

480
00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:23.240
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I was going to try not to

481
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:25.759
<v Speaker 2>go to ancient aliens on you today.

482
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:29.519
<v Speaker 1>But it's interesting is that, Like believe it or not,

483
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:34.519
<v Speaker 1>people people listening probably know what it looks like. But

484
00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>the artwork that I had Mario dude literally is actually

485
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:40.960
<v Speaker 1>a playoff of that image as well.

486
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh cool.

487
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and instead of wings, it's it's uh, you know,

488
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:52.599
<v Speaker 1>like TV reels like movie reels. Yeah, there is there

489
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:54.440
<v Speaker 1>is something to that actually with that image.

490
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:57.480
<v Speaker 2>I think I love all the all the old symbolism.

491
00:27:57.599 --> 00:27:59.799
<v Speaker 2>I think it's all that stuff is still there for

492
00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:02.559
<v Speaker 2>the decoding. You know, you have the handbags that everybody.

493
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:04.839
<v Speaker 2>I love that people are throwing out theories on all

494
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:07.680
<v Speaker 2>this stuff. Now it's like, you know, it's part of

495
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:11.039
<v Speaker 2>our modern renaissance or awakening or whatever it is that

496
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:13.240
<v Speaker 2>we're experiencing right now, or people going back and they're

497
00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:16.400
<v Speaker 2>looking at all this old stuff and saying, let's have

498
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:18.559
<v Speaker 2>another look at this, because I don't think the history

499
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:22.799
<v Speaker 2>books got it right. And there's also I'm gonna get

500
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:26.599
<v Speaker 2>to the occult stuff. But there's also additional symbolism that

501
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.240
<v Speaker 2>I found with her in all the old temples to

502
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Ishtar or Anana or Ashtar or whatever we're gonna call her,

503
00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:38.119
<v Speaker 2>there's what's called the eight pointed star of Ishtar. And

504
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:45.720
<v Speaker 2>it's also a symbol that I found painted on UFOs

505
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:50.640
<v Speaker 2>in the old Serbian frescoes from thirteen fifty. You guys,

506
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:52.559
<v Speaker 2>if I showed you, you would know what I'm talking about.

507
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Is that old it's in Serbia. It's just big wall.

508
00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:58.759
<v Speaker 2>It's a painting, and on each side it's like the

509
00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:01.599
<v Speaker 2>Crucifixion of Christ is the main painting. But up in

510
00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:05.640
<v Speaker 2>the right and left corner you have what we would

511
00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:08.880
<v Speaker 2>call a ufo, some sort of a craft, and on

512
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:13.599
<v Speaker 2>that craft there's an eight pointed star. Archaeologists and historians

513
00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:16.680
<v Speaker 2>have no explanation for the symbol on the craft in

514
00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:20.200
<v Speaker 2>these paintings, but I think it's this eight pointed star

515
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 2>of Ishtar, So you know, I'm seeing her as this

516
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:31.640
<v Speaker 2>entity that's flying the skies. And if you jump to

517
00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:37.599
<v Speaker 2>modern times, that's when I really started seeing Ishtar involved

518
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.440
<v Speaker 2>with stuff in the skies, like the events of nineteen

519
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.279
<v Speaker 2>forty seven. And first of all, you know Croley, you

520
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:47.480
<v Speaker 2>mentioned this earlier. I don't want to forget to get

521
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:52.559
<v Speaker 2>to this. Crowley dies in nineteen forty seven. I think

522
00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:56.200
<v Speaker 2>he may have had a daughter in Italy that nobody

523
00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:00.480
<v Speaker 2>knows about, because a little girl was born out of

524
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>his operation going on at the Lima, and nobody knows

525
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:07.160
<v Speaker 2>who the father is, or at least history doesn't tell

526
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:09.000
<v Speaker 2>us who the father is. But they were doing all

527
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:11.400
<v Speaker 2>that sex, magic and stuff. I think she may have

528
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:13.680
<v Speaker 2>been his. But either way, they named this girl a

529
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>star Day and it's at a time when Crowley was

530
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:22.200
<v Speaker 2>ushering in or talking about usher in a new era

531
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:25.160
<v Speaker 2>with the little g Gods. So in my opinion, that's

532
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:28.920
<v Speaker 2>an interesting connection, but it's not the main one. Before

533
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:32.119
<v Speaker 2>he died, he channeled and was given a cipher by

534
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:37.039
<v Speaker 2>an entity named Iowas in Egypt. That cipher was decoded

535
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:40.400
<v Speaker 2>in the seventies and it's published in a book called

536
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Secret Cipher of the Euphonauts. I've read the book, and

537
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:49.960
<v Speaker 2>the idea of the book is if you use the

538
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:53.359
<v Speaker 2>cipher on key UFO cases, you're going to be able

539
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:57.920
<v Speaker 2>to predict the next big UFO incident. So a big

540
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:01.400
<v Speaker 2>part of the book is Crowley, or the author rather

541
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:05.720
<v Speaker 2>applying Crowley cipher to cases from the Contact D movement

542
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:07.640
<v Speaker 2>that started in nineteen forty seven.

543
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:09.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to remember the what his name he was,

544
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>that guy who used to be in the OTO. Actually

545
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember.

546
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh, yeah, the guy who wrote Secret Cipher, said Greenfield,

547
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Alan Greenfield.

548
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:19.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yes.

549
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Didn't Crowley have a book named like liber Starte.

550
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, he had labor forty nine that I think is

551
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:30.640
<v Speaker 2>about her.

552
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>No, he did have Librastarte, and that was a book

553
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:35.559
<v Speaker 1>of Yeah, that was a book of like telling you

554
00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:38.079
<v Speaker 1>how to like give devotions to your gods and goddesses,

555
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>like if you're kind of having a ritual and you

556
00:31:39.759 --> 00:31:42.279
<v Speaker 1>wanted to say thanks to them or you know. Yeah,

557
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:45.559
<v Speaker 1>it was based on that that that I think the

558
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>crazy thing with that is that the number of that book,

559
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:53.799
<v Speaker 1>if I'm correct, is actually one of the flight numbers

560
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>that matches all these other Thelemic and Croley numbers with

561
00:31:56.279 --> 00:31:59.240
<v Speaker 1>nine to eleven. So like that's even kind of weird

562
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>because you're talking about giving offerings to the gods and

563
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:04.000
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the plane numbers that I think hit

564
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the building or maybe the Pentagon is something like that.

565
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:07.839
<v Speaker 1>It was one of the plane numbers involved.

566
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, the numerology is off the charts with all

567
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:11.039
<v Speaker 2>this stuff.

568
00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Libra Eyes, and you have flight ninety three.

569
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:18.119
<v Speaker 2>A Starte is the name that's the main name that

570
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I saw coming out of secret Cipher of the Ethonots

571
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.400
<v Speaker 2>when he would apply the cipher to all the UFO

572
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:28.480
<v Speaker 2>cases like Georgia damn Ski for instance. It's like ashtar

573
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Ishtar or Astarte is the name that that the cipher

574
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:38.079
<v Speaker 2>keeps producing. So uh and also like it's not just Crowley.

575
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:40.039
<v Speaker 2>And by the way that I'm going to look into

576
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:43.319
<v Speaker 2>that book that that Libra Starte. That's very interesting. But

577
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I think Libra forty nine was totally inspired by her, totally.

578
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:53.799
<v Speaker 2>I think Thelma itself was inspired by her. And Crowley

579
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:56.039
<v Speaker 2>was such a stubborn bastard that he didn't want to

580
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:58.640
<v Speaker 2>say that it was inspired by a woman, so he

581
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.920
<v Speaker 2>changed it up, wouldn't name her by name, but I

582
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:03.400
<v Speaker 2>think she inspired the whole thing.

583
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:06.039
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm like like I would say, like her

584
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:08.599
<v Speaker 1>and new Weed. I think Crowley actually was really big

585
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:11.319
<v Speaker 1>on pointing at the feminine aspect of magic.

586
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:18.599
<v Speaker 2>I agree with that. Yeah he yeah, yeah he was.

587
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:22.559
<v Speaker 2>But something happened with Felima in particular where he wouldn't

588
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:26.720
<v Speaker 2>just say this is a religion to ishtar. In my opinion,

589
00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:28.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why that is. I don't know why

590
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:32.359
<v Speaker 2>he wouldn't just share some power with her or whatever.

591
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:35.759
<v Speaker 2>But I agree with you. I do. You know another

592
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:40.880
<v Speaker 2>connection here with the toyeth century occultist is certainly Parsons

593
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:45.720
<v Speaker 2>and l Ron Hubbard, because you know the Babylon Working

594
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:47.759
<v Speaker 2>and I went and I looked at that, because they

595
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:51.680
<v Speaker 2>documented that whole thing, and I've read through it. It

596
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:55.240
<v Speaker 2>gets really dark, it gets really weird, it gets poltergeisty.

597
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:59.799
<v Speaker 2>It's just it's just a thrilling, scary thing to read through.

598
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:03.359
<v Speaker 2>But but you know that started in nineteen forty six.

599
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:08.000
<v Speaker 2>They started that in January of forty six, and Parsons

600
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:12.079
<v Speaker 2>documents like January fourth through the fifteenth. He tells you

601
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.239
<v Speaker 2>all the rituals they did. Then there's a time where

602
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.880
<v Speaker 2>they and this is all out in the California desert,

603
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:20.519
<v Speaker 2>and they took some time off and they returned to

604
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:24.519
<v Speaker 2>the ritual in March. So I don't think that people

605
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:27.719
<v Speaker 2>realize that that wasn't done in like two nights out

606
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:33.199
<v Speaker 2>in a desert, like they really kind of slept, you know,

607
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:35.880
<v Speaker 2>breathed this thing. It was part of their life for

608
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:39.039
<v Speaker 2>the whole year of nineteen forty six. They finish it

609
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:46.239
<v Speaker 2>up in March and Parsons gets a message from the

610
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:50.559
<v Speaker 2>other side telling him wait nine months. And well, first

611
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:52.840
<v Speaker 2>of all, he sees the Beast of Babylon. He sees

612
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:57.800
<v Speaker 2>her riding the beasts. It's symbolism associated with Ashtar. And

613
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:01.280
<v Speaker 2>then he's told she will be released in nine months.

614
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:03.440
<v Speaker 2>And if you look at nine months from where this

615
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:06.840
<v Speaker 2>was in March, it's the opening of nineteen forty seven.

616
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:12.360
<v Speaker 2>So technically that ritual starts in forty six and ends

617
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:17.320
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen forty seven, and that's when you start seeing

618
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:20.400
<v Speaker 2>all this UFO stuff happening. You know, people think that

619
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:22.719
<v Speaker 2>they opened a portal that brought about Roswell.

620
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:25.679
<v Speaker 1>I've mentioned this a few times on the show that

621
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.639
<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of times where yeah, yeah, where

622
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:33.679
<v Speaker 1>I've mentioned that parsons work supposedly, you know, might have

623
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:36.159
<v Speaker 1>brought on Lake's you know, UFU type effects.

624
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:42.559
<v Speaker 2>And it's it's really the imagery that grabbed me because

625
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:46.320
<v Speaker 2>it's all imagery associated with the goddess Ishtar, because she's

626
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:49.199
<v Speaker 2>the Phoenician goddess of Babylon. So you get that title

627
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:53.519
<v Speaker 2>of Babylon in there, and Parsons says she was loosened

628
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:57.440
<v Speaker 2>upon the earth in early forty seven. And you know,

629
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.480
<v Speaker 2>like I say, he wasn't calling her Battlon though, I mean,

630
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:02.679
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't calling her Ishtar. He was calling her Babylon.

631
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:07.599
<v Speaker 2>But it's the same because I found I found confirmation

632
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:11.480
<v Speaker 2>of that because I tracked down the occultist who took

633
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:15.000
<v Speaker 2>seven years to write the book on the Goddess Babylon,

634
00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:19.559
<v Speaker 2>and he says it himself, and I found interviews where

635
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.760
<v Speaker 2>he said this too. He was asked about Babylon's origins

636
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:26.599
<v Speaker 2>and he said, the Goddess Istar in her earliest form,

637
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:29.639
<v Speaker 2>or I'm sorry, the Goddess Babylon in her earliest forms

638
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.920
<v Speaker 2>is Ishtar Nana. And that's coming from the guy who

639
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:36.599
<v Speaker 2>wrote the book on the goddess Babylon. It's called Red

640
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Goddess the book is so you know, that was a

641
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:40.719
<v Speaker 2>little bit of vacation for me when I found that.

642
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:46.000
<v Speaker 2>And he also found her to be the mystery Babylon

643
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:47.679
<v Speaker 2>mentioned in Revelation in the Bible.

644
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, that makes sense to me, though I can see

645
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:56.360
<v Speaker 1>them all being like equivalence to each other in a sense.

646
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, she just goes all these different names. It's it's

647
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:05.639
<v Speaker 2>it's why I don't think this story has been told

648
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:09.400
<v Speaker 2>fully yet. But there's another connection too with forty seven,

649
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.199
<v Speaker 2>and this one just really blew my mind. And in

650
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:17.880
<v Speaker 2>the same desert where they did the Babylon working, also

651
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:21.320
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen forty seven, you have this guy who shows

652
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:27.079
<v Speaker 2>up named George Fantastl. Yeah, he leaves the aerospace business

653
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:30.320
<v Speaker 2>to go randomly. He's got this nice, cushy job and

654
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:32.800
<v Speaker 2>he goes to the Mahabi Desert to live out there.

655
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:35.440
<v Speaker 2>He goes out there the same time Parsons and Hubbard

656
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:40.480
<v Speaker 2>are there, although he doesn't know them, they don't really meet.

657
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:42.559
<v Speaker 2>He may have actually got there a little bit after

658
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:45.239
<v Speaker 2>that they did this working. But he goes to the

659
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:49.039
<v Speaker 2>same desert, and he goes on to build a house

660
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.239
<v Speaker 2>there and establish a large UFO center out there. It's

661
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.800
<v Speaker 2>called the in Tecton. It's like people call it a

662
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:58.760
<v Speaker 2>time machine. It's still there, but it became the most

663
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:03.119
<v Speaker 2>tassful and well known UFO meeting center of all time.

664
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:06.360
<v Speaker 2>And when you look in the van tast so what

665
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.840
<v Speaker 2>he was doing out there. He claimed to receive messages

666
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:16.760
<v Speaker 2>and like these telepathic communications from an extraterrestrial being named Ashtar.

667
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:26.280
<v Speaker 1>See like ship like that. It's like, are you misunderstood

668
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:30.440
<v Speaker 1>or are you being mk ultrade or are you selling

669
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:33.679
<v Speaker 1>a silly story? You know what I'm saying, Like it's

670
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>like just my opinion that this is just me from

671
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:39.960
<v Speaker 1>fucking with magic. You're gonna you're gonna get I hate

672
00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:43.119
<v Speaker 1>using the phrase downloads, but you're gonna get that. But

673
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:45.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean to me, it's not it's not coming from

674
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:47.760
<v Speaker 1>like fucking alien, you know what I'm saying. It's like

675
00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:50.199
<v Speaker 1>the twice a god reverberating in your head once you

676
00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:52.280
<v Speaker 1>open your eyes, you know, something like that, or your

677
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:54.599
<v Speaker 1>brain just as rewired from the experience you just had.

678
00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:57.599
<v Speaker 1>But it's just you know, like that when you when

679
00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:00.280
<v Speaker 1>I always hear these people with these child things like

680
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:03.119
<v Speaker 1>is that just like you had in a magical experience

681
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:05.079
<v Speaker 1>and now you're just telling people this shit that's fucking

682
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:07.760
<v Speaker 1>going through your head, all these thoughts fluttering through your mind.

683
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Because like for me, it's like whenever I would screw

684
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:13.679
<v Speaker 1>around with magic, like there were certain things I'd want

685
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:15.840
<v Speaker 1>to try to like even remember as I'm sitting there,

686
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:17.639
<v Speaker 1>it's like I'd be writing or trying to type, and

687
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:19.559
<v Speaker 1>I can't even keep up with the thoughts in my head.

688
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 1>So it'd be easier for me to just start repeating

689
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:23.199
<v Speaker 1>it and have somebody write it down for me.

690
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Like a scrier.

691
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it would actually make more sense. So a lot

692
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:29.000
<v Speaker 1>of times when I hear these things, I'm like, are

693
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:31.320
<v Speaker 1>you just like fucking with magic and repeating what the

694
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>fuck you're thinking about? You're not really getting downloads from

695
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:38.480
<v Speaker 1>fucking you know, the Palladians And come on, I don't know,

696
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:39.639
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know a man.

697
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean when I read this, normally, I would I

698
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:45.800
<v Speaker 2>would brush this stuff aside, like I've never really taken

699
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:52.079
<v Speaker 2>seriously that whole ufo uh culty religious stuff that I

700
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:54.079
<v Speaker 2>but I'm I had to look at it because it

701
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:56.280
<v Speaker 2>comes out of nineteen forty seven, so it fits into

702
00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:59.239
<v Speaker 2>my timeline. And then and then also stuff that I

703
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:01.760
<v Speaker 2>brush aside. Are these people who have these encounters with

704
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:05.719
<v Speaker 2>whoever from the plate's some funky name, and I usually

705
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:08.199
<v Speaker 2>just don't think anything of it. But when he said Ashtar,

706
00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:11.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Okay, this is kind of weird because we're

707
00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:14.519
<v Speaker 2>starting to see this name pop up out of nineteen

708
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:20.119
<v Speaker 2>forty seven an awful lot. I had to take note

709
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:23.199
<v Speaker 2>of it, you know, and I think that he yeah,

710
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:25.199
<v Speaker 2>I think he went on to well, he went on

711
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:28.639
<v Speaker 2>to kind of propel his cult with this stuff, and

712
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:31.719
<v Speaker 2>they called it what you're saying. They started saying, oh, yeah,

713
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:36.079
<v Speaker 2>this is from Australians. They're from you know, wherever it's you.

714
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:37.679
<v Speaker 1>Know what it is. It's like, this is my opinion,

715
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:39.480
<v Speaker 1>but so and so said it. So when you get mad,

716
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:40.960
<v Speaker 1>don't get mad at me, Just get mad at this

717
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:43.840
<v Speaker 1>person that told me. Like it's such an out too,

718
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:44.679
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying.

719
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And I mean, look, people, when people think

720
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:52.280
<v Speaker 2>about Roswell nineteen forty seven, they think Roswell. But also

721
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>there was this UFO cult religion that sprang up at

722
00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:00.000
<v Speaker 2>the same time. In forty seven, like the whole Contactam

723
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:05.119
<v Speaker 2>movement coming out of nineteen forty seven just keeps revealing

724
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:07.840
<v Speaker 2>this goddess to me because it goes on to include

725
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:12.760
<v Speaker 2>all types of encounters with Ashtar Ashtar command Ashtar movement.

726
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:18.320
<v Speaker 2>The whole Ashtar is like intertwined with this prominent form

727
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:20.360
<v Speaker 2>of a UFO religion, and it all goes back to

728
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:23.639
<v Speaker 2>forty seven. The New Age Movement, I think, came out

729
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:28.639
<v Speaker 2>of this. So and it's not just a thing down

730
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:31.519
<v Speaker 2>into Mahave Desert where they did the Babbylon working and

731
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:36.880
<v Speaker 2>where Tassel started this cold you see it up in

732
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:40.679
<v Speaker 2>Mount Shasta as well. They're still talking about this up

733
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:44.679
<v Speaker 2>there today. I was watching Peter Santinello the other day

734
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:48.400
<v Speaker 2>and he was at this little town at the base

735
00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:56.239
<v Speaker 2>of Mount Shasta and he was filming it and the

736
00:41:56.239 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 2>clouds were starting to form above the mountain in like

737
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.000
<v Speaker 2>an odd way. It kind of looked like something out

738
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:04.159
<v Speaker 2>of Ghostbusters. And he goes he's with some locals and

739
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:07.079
<v Speaker 2>he goes, you know, it looks like a spaceship's on

740
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:09.840
<v Speaker 2>top of the mountain. Does this happen a lot? And

741
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:13.320
<v Speaker 2>the guy, the local dude from Shasta say Yeah, this

742
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:15.840
<v Speaker 2>happens all the time. People say that, you know, aliens

743
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:18.079
<v Speaker 2>are visiting the mountain and it's the city of Light

744
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:20.599
<v Speaker 2>and it's called the Ashtar command I was like, what,

745
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:25.679
<v Speaker 2>they still think that this is Ashtar stuff. So again,

746
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:28.480
<v Speaker 2>like he goes on to talk about this galactic federation

747
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:31.119
<v Speaker 2>and like that there's like a connection point to Earth

748
00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:35.840
<v Speaker 2>with Shasta and all this stuff. So, and I don't

749
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:37.239
<v Speaker 2>know if you guys remember, I don't know if you

750
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:40.320
<v Speaker 2>have ever looked into this, but in nineteen seventy seven,

751
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:44.079
<v Speaker 2>there was like a major news broadcast that was interrupted

752
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:49.440
<v Speaker 2>and they call it the Ashtarp Broadcast. Lisa, you know

753
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:49.920
<v Speaker 2>about this.

754
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:52.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've heard about that.

755
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:52.880
<v Speaker 2>It was.

756
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:56.599
<v Speaker 4>Wasn't it like a joke or something? It was something

757
00:42:56.679 --> 00:43:02.840
<v Speaker 4>of a to see how many people would I can't

758
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:05.119
<v Speaker 4>remember exactly what it was, but I do remember them

759
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:07.920
<v Speaker 4>talking about some kind of broadcast where a lot of

760
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:09.679
<v Speaker 4>people got in on it.

761
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. They The official narrative is that it was a hoax,

762
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:19.599
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know. I went back and listened to it,

763
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.159
<v Speaker 2>and it's creepy. The only problem is nobody ever came

764
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:26.360
<v Speaker 2>forward and claimed it. Nobody ever came forward and said, yeah,

765
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I did that.

766
00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Ha ha.

767
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.599
<v Speaker 2>Whoever did it had some had access to some you know,

768
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:34.320
<v Speaker 2>some advanced technology you know who. We don't know who

769
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:37.800
<v Speaker 2>who did it, but it is creepy, like even the

770
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:42.519
<v Speaker 2>voice of it's like British TV, and they they interrupt

771
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:47.400
<v Speaker 2>and like they like kind of like pipe in this message.

772
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:50.199
<v Speaker 2>So the guy is kind of the news guys like

773
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:53.719
<v Speaker 2>coming in and out right like they didn't totally just

774
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:56.679
<v Speaker 2>take it over. They like somehow fused it together. And

775
00:43:56.719 --> 00:44:00.039
<v Speaker 2>you hear this weird like sci fi voice from this

776
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:04.519
<v Speaker 2>alien sound and guy who's talking about you know, changes

777
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.280
<v Speaker 2>coming to Earth or whatever, all this cool stuff.

778
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:10.360
<v Speaker 4>One of the things that people have to remember with

779
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:13.280
<v Speaker 4>the nineteen seventy eight seven broadcast was that everybody was

780
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:17.239
<v Speaker 4>still listening to the radio as more than the TV

781
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:20.840
<v Speaker 4>or alongside with the TV. Everybody would sit down and

782
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:24.119
<v Speaker 4>listen into the broadcast, especially in Britain. It was it

783
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:26.760
<v Speaker 4>was something that you did after dinner or whatever. You

784
00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:31.119
<v Speaker 4>would sit down and you have time around the radio

785
00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:33.840
<v Speaker 4>and I wouldn't they like give like a story time

786
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.440
<v Speaker 4>or something like that, usually around this time, and that's

787
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:39.360
<v Speaker 4>when it broke in and came out of nowhere and

788
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:40.760
<v Speaker 4>everybody was listening to this.

789
00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that that was a long standing tradition

790
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.079
<v Speaker 2>over there. I think it may have even started with

791
00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Churchhill during the war. They called it the New Age

792
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:51.199
<v Speaker 2>of Radio.

793
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:55.000
<v Speaker 3>They do those broadcasts, and even the Queen would give

794
00:44:55.079 --> 00:45:00.559
<v Speaker 3>her Christmas broadcasts still through the radio, not through the television.

795
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just saw it as another weird thing where

796
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:09.320
<v Speaker 2>it's like, Okay, they're they're throwing this name Ashtar in

797
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:11.880
<v Speaker 2>there again. And what's crazy about this is all these

798
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:16.480
<v Speaker 2>people are. They're not connected with each other. Like Van Tassel,

799
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I found zero connections with him and Jack Parsons. I

800
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:21.119
<v Speaker 2>don't even think they knew each other. I don't think

801
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:26.280
<v Speaker 2>he knew el Ron Hubbard either. But they all start

802
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:28.599
<v Speaker 2>talking about Ashtar, and they're all coming at it from

803
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:32.480
<v Speaker 2>a different angle. They're all kind of finding this herb

804
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:35.039
<v Speaker 2>or this intelligence or whatever it happens to be. They

805
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:38.880
<v Speaker 2>come at it from all these different angles, and it's

806
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:42.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like almost too much to be a coincidence. Even

807
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:46.880
<v Speaker 2>though individually some of these seem like BS stories, like

808
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:52.360
<v Speaker 2>just dumb, hokey UFO lore stuff. When you look at

809
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:57.159
<v Speaker 2>just just coincidences around it, it's almost like what actually

810
00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:00.760
<v Speaker 2>is going on here because back to this goddess, like

811
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:04.519
<v Speaker 2>all the major occultists encountered her. You know, I've talked

812
00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:08.360
<v Speaker 2>about Crowley, You've talked about Parsons, John D. You mentioned

813
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:11.920
<v Speaker 2>a scrying John D and Edward Kelly saw her during

814
00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:15.239
<v Speaker 2>a scrying session and they documented it. It's called the

815
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Daughters of Fortitude. You can go read it right now.

816
00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's it's she spoke to them, they recorded it,

817
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:25.559
<v Speaker 2>it's published. It's exceedingly creepy, but you can go read it.

818
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.159
<v Speaker 3>What you're saying right now jogged and memory.

819
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:34.360
<v Speaker 4>There is, I believe, in Iran a university or at

820
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:38.119
<v Speaker 4>least a division of the university called the Ashtar Space

821
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:42.840
<v Speaker 4>Program in Iran, and it's a joint space program with Russia.

822
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:47.440
<v Speaker 4>I always, I really really they would it after a

823
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:53.519
<v Speaker 4>goddess and it was it is their aerospace joint division,

824
00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:54.159
<v Speaker 4>I believe.

825
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:58.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're the ones who came out recently did you

826
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:04.239
<v Speaker 2>say Iran? So the okay? And they recently came out

827
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:07.280
<v Speaker 2>and said that they were going to do something in Antarctica.

828
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:15.719
<v Speaker 4>Hence why we're not friends with them?

829
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:16.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

830
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:18.920
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean this. Every time I turn around,

831
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:21.400
<v Speaker 2>there's something new like this that's popping up with her,

832
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:25.519
<v Speaker 2>and it has to do with like Space Age, New

833
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Age or UFO movement, which all that kind of for

834
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:34.280
<v Speaker 2>me goes back to nineteen forty seven. Even Jack Parsons,

835
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:37.840
<v Speaker 2>I think he like sort of started the Space Age,

836
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.599
<v Speaker 2>He at least did his part to start that right

837
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:45.800
<v Speaker 2>And you know when she it's all these like critical

838
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:49.440
<v Speaker 2>moments in history to where I see this goddess show up.

839
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:53.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean when she visits John D. Youles out a

840
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:57.239
<v Speaker 2>time when he was helping literally start the British Empire.

841
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:01.960
<v Speaker 2>If you look at Oxford they fifteen eighty three, I

842
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:05.000
<v Speaker 2>think as the beginning the official beginning of the British Empire.

843
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Guess who was in the service of the queen there

844
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:10.719
<v Speaker 2>in that time, John D. You can go back and

845
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:13.559
<v Speaker 2>see her influence on all these major shifts in history.

846
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:16.039
<v Speaker 2>She's present at the beginning of the Sumerian Empire, where

847
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:19.880
<v Speaker 2>we get all we get our spiritual occultists get their

848
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:25.599
<v Speaker 2>spiritual cosmology entirely from the Sumerians because they had such

849
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:29.760
<v Speaker 2>a knowledge of cosmology in general. But so's She's around

850
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:32.519
<v Speaker 2>for all that and the Anonachy. She's worshiped by King

851
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Solomon and his wives. She's around for that kingdom. We

852
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:39.280
<v Speaker 2>see the first temple coming out of that. I think

853
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:43.000
<v Speaker 2>that she's the whrror of Babylon mentioned by John the

854
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:46.199
<v Speaker 2>Apostle in the Book of Revelation, which ties her into

855
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:49.960
<v Speaker 2>this future sort of enigma that we call the end times,

856
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:53.519
<v Speaker 2>where you see if you go deep, you see Samyaza

857
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:56.800
<v Speaker 2>released from the pit, and it seems to be like

858
00:48:56.840 --> 00:49:00.599
<v Speaker 2>a power struggle between him and this mystery Bablon who

859
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:04.119
<v Speaker 2>rides the beast the scarlet woman. And so I do

860
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:08.599
<v Speaker 2>want to highlight this today, like the Babylon in the

861
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:12.679
<v Speaker 2>Book of Revelation is the Babylon that Jack Parsons contacted

862
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:16.760
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen forty seven, in my opinion, And it's the

863
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:21.199
<v Speaker 2>same year that Israel sort of prophetically becomes a nation.

864
00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:24.519
<v Speaker 2>It's the same year the Book of Enoch is reintroduced

865
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:29.559
<v Speaker 2>to mankind. It's it kicks the UFO movement off, you know.

866
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:32.159
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, she visits Parsons who starts to space

867
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:35.639
<v Speaker 2>age was coincides with the UFO Age, which coincides with

868
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:39.199
<v Speaker 2>the New Age all in forty seven, coincides with Crowley's death.

869
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Also in forty seven, it coincides with his idea of

870
00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:45.679
<v Speaker 2>the aon of Horus and the age of Aquarius. So

871
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:47.719
<v Speaker 2>I think this is a huge story with all these,

872
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:53.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, sort of interwoven ties. You could say that

873
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Parsons opened a portal and invided an entity into the

874
00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:02.800
<v Speaker 2>West because and maybe she brought her host. That's where

875
00:50:02.840 --> 00:50:05.519
<v Speaker 2>I see the UFO thing tying in. Maybe she brought

876
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:07.360
<v Speaker 2>her army, and those are some of the lights we

877
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:09.719
<v Speaker 2>see in the sky. I'm speculating here, of course, but

878
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:14.159
<v Speaker 2>it's star might be what the Bible calls a principality,

879
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:19.960
<v Speaker 2>because after Babbel, it says God sectioned off the groups

880
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:22.840
<v Speaker 2>of people and he put them under the leadership of

881
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:27.000
<v Speaker 2>all these different principalities. And I just think she's one

882
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:29.880
<v Speaker 2>of those entities perhaps, or she's working closely with one

883
00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:35.920
<v Speaker 2>of those entities, and Parsons brought her to North America

884
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:39.039
<v Speaker 2>because she goes where she's worshiped, or in this case,

885
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:42.519
<v Speaker 2>she goes where she's summoned, and it's the West. And

886
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:47.000
<v Speaker 2>that's why, you know, I think there's a significant tie

887
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:49.679
<v Speaker 2>in with the Middle East here. It seems to start

888
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:51.840
<v Speaker 2>in the Middle East. A lot of this stuff does

889
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:56.039
<v Speaker 2>our mystery traditions do. But with this stuff, it like

890
00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:59.239
<v Speaker 2>it parallels what's happening over there, because you've got the

891
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:02.920
<v Speaker 2>beginning of Israel in forty seven and the beginning of

892
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:04.960
<v Speaker 2>the Ufo age over here. It just seems to be

893
00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:11.840
<v Speaker 2>like too many parallels to overlook. So she came here

894
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:15.639
<v Speaker 2>perhaps and brought her Ufo phenomenon with her because she

895
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:19.119
<v Speaker 2>wanted to rule things in the ancient world. And you know,

896
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:22.920
<v Speaker 2>you could say, maybe she will do the same in

897
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:26.800
<v Speaker 2>the end times. And I'm hearing this from people who

898
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:32.440
<v Speaker 2>have researched her, who are a Christians and non Christians.

899
00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm hearing occultists and Bible scholars alike say that she

900
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:45.480
<v Speaker 2>is the Babylon that's mentioned in Revelation. So I've heard

901
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:50.320
<v Speaker 2>it said. One could infer that she maybe was going

902
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.079
<v Speaker 2>to try and control the Antichrist, just like she tried

903
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:56.440
<v Speaker 2>to control Gilgamesh. And I wanted to bring it up

904
00:51:56.440 --> 00:51:58.840
<v Speaker 2>because I don't hear her, you know, talked about in

905
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:02.920
<v Speaker 2>relation to escatarology like this, but I think it's certainly there.

906
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:07.639
<v Speaker 2>I haven't said much about the Book of Enoch, but

907
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:14.760
<v Speaker 2>in terms of eschatology, it's interesting that that book decides

908
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:17.119
<v Speaker 2>to kind of show back up in nineteen forty seven

909
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:20.280
<v Speaker 2>as part of the Dead Sea Scrolls, and that book itself,

910
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:24.360
<v Speaker 2>the Enoch has in one of the first verses, it contains,

911
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:28.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, what you could see as possibly a prophecy.

912
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:31.679
<v Speaker 2>It says, this book is not meant for This book

913
00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:34.360
<v Speaker 2>is meant for not now, but for an age which

914
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:41.239
<v Speaker 2>is to come. And so Enoch having this prophecy and

915
00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:45.719
<v Speaker 2>it's showing up. There's a story that the night that

916
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:48.639
<v Speaker 2>they brought that stuff out of the desert, they found

917
00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:51.519
<v Speaker 2>it in a cave and they brought it in to

918
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:55.840
<v Speaker 2>be analyzed to make sure it was legit. That same night,

919
00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:59.400
<v Speaker 2>the un was having a discussion about the creation of

920
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Israel a nation. So there's just a lot of a

921
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:11.159
<v Speaker 2>lot of interesting, you know, little fun tie ends here

922
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:17.159
<v Speaker 2>in forty five, even right at the end of World

923
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:20.239
<v Speaker 2>War Two, they find a manuscript in the Knock and

924
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:26.199
<v Speaker 2>Mighty Library. It's called the thunder Perfect Mind. It's shockingly

925
00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:31.039
<v Speaker 2>similar to the Daughters of Fortitude. That was the manuscript

926
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:35.079
<v Speaker 2>put out by John d and it, you know, it

927
00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:38.280
<v Speaker 2>seems to be to do with with ishtar reads like

928
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:40.760
<v Speaker 2>it's the same intelligence on the other side of the veil.

929
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Who dictated it. And it's also describing itself as this

930
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:48.559
<v Speaker 2>female entity. So again, if you look at the you know,

931
00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:51.760
<v Speaker 2>look at the years here, it's like you've got the

932
00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Book of Enoch discovered in forty seven, Parsons Babbylon working

933
00:53:55.840 --> 00:53:59.880
<v Speaker 2>forty seven, this manuscript is forty five. In nineteen forty six,

934
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:03.679
<v Speaker 2>Crowley puts out Leave forty nine. It's also called the

935
00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Book of Babylon, as she's very much represented in that work.

936
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:10.440
<v Speaker 2>So there's this window here around forty seven when all

937
00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:13.880
<v Speaker 2>these ish Tar associating manuscripts are coming to light.

938
00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:21.119
<v Speaker 1>One thing I didn't want to say. They do financial sing,

939
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:23.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, talking about like Ishtar, And I guess nineteen

940
00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:27.480
<v Speaker 1>forty seven he's even thinking of stuff about like in

941
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:30.440
<v Speaker 1>an opening portals. I don't know why, I just I guess.

942
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:32.639
<v Speaker 1>I keep getting stuck on the forty seventh President, and

943
00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:35.760
<v Speaker 1>you got this guy talking about the stargate, you know,

944
00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:39.679
<v Speaker 1>so it's just wow, yeah, certain things like that. Oh yeah,

945
00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:42.079
<v Speaker 1>So it sounds like off the wall to even make that.

946
00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:44.960
<v Speaker 2>No. No, he's like his his whole thing is like

947
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:47.719
<v Speaker 2>his baby is space force, right, Like that's part of

948
00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:52.280
<v Speaker 2>his legacy is that he created space Force and Musk.

949
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:55.840
<v Speaker 2>There's all these ties with Elon Musk, because even before

950
00:54:55.960 --> 00:54:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Musk and George Trump, Trump is the forty seventh right,

951
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Am I getting this right? Okay? So even before Musk

952
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:07.360
<v Speaker 2>endorses Trump officially, Trump is storing all his SpaceX stuff

953
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:11.320
<v Speaker 2>on the Space Force bass. So they had some sort

954
00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:14.800
<v Speaker 2>of a deal worked out years before you know all this,

955
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:20.159
<v Speaker 2>you know this endorsement and everything. And you know, Trump's

956
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:23.719
<v Speaker 2>uncle John Trump. He had a good look or even

957
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:26.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe even has the Tesla files which have all this

958
00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:30.159
<v Speaker 2>free energy stuff. There's a lot of UFO stuff in

959
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:33.039
<v Speaker 2>those files too. I listened to an interview that John

960
00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:36.679
<v Speaker 2>Trump did and he's talking about how he's in the

961
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:38.840
<v Speaker 2>room with the FBI. He's going through the files and

962
00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:42.079
<v Speaker 2>they're really honed in on one part of Tesla's work

963
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:46.000
<v Speaker 2>that has to do with taking objects out of the sky.

964
00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:50.360
<v Speaker 2>And I'm just like, and then we have Roswell And

965
00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I've always thought, I'm like, I wonder if that was

966
00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:55.440
<v Speaker 2>us and we took that thing down, whatever that was.

967
00:55:56.079 --> 00:55:57.960
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if somebody was messing around with that Tesla

968
00:55:58.000 --> 00:55:59.920
<v Speaker 2>technology and they pulled it right out of the sky.

969
00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:05.760
<v Speaker 1>It was like, at least I think you needed that's great.

970
00:56:06.199 --> 00:56:10.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was like, that's crazy. The yes, the whole

971
00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:13.519
<v Speaker 4>FBI files or whatever. Apparently it was like boxes and

972
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:16.199
<v Speaker 4>boxes and boxes, and they called him in to kind

973
00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:18.719
<v Speaker 4>of give you know, can you make sense of any

974
00:56:18.760 --> 00:56:22.320
<v Speaker 4>of this? And you know, he said, I need a

975
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:24.960
<v Speaker 4>couple of days or something and he looked at it like, no,

976
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:26.920
<v Speaker 4>there's nothing in here, but can do you mind if

977
00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:28.760
<v Speaker 4>I keep some of these boxes just to kind of,

978
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:30.039
<v Speaker 4>you know, make sure.

979
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:31.599
<v Speaker 3>And they left it with.

980
00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:37.199
<v Speaker 4>Them, so he kept them of them according to what

981
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:39.440
<v Speaker 4>is read. But one thing I wanted to say, add

982
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:43.480
<v Speaker 4>to your your nineteen forty seven and we had an

983
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:46.559
<v Speaker 4>episode on this. It was a black dollia murder in

984
00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:51.960
<v Speaker 4>la and it was a very public murder that I

985
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:54.639
<v Speaker 4>think for the time it kind of made national TV

986
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:58.679
<v Speaker 4>and everybody kind of was drawn into to that murder.

987
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:00.119
<v Speaker 4>And it was at the beginning, I believe it was

988
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:06.440
<v Speaker 4>in January. And you do have the renaming of one

989
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:09.159
<v Speaker 4>of the laboratories in Roswell was Los Almos, but it

990
00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:13.679
<v Speaker 4>basically was renamed to Los Alamo's National Laboratory by the

991
00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:17.639
<v Speaker 4>Atomic Energy Commission, which ends up becoming to later. But

992
00:57:18.599 --> 00:57:24.119
<v Speaker 4>they made a big deal about renaming that in jam

993
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:26.559
<v Speaker 4>and that is really where you see most of the

994
00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:29.679
<v Speaker 4>stuff coming out of I would I would think that's

995
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:33.119
<v Speaker 4>integral to that story as well, because this is where

996
00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:37.639
<v Speaker 4>you're seeing Oppenheimer come and conduct his his missions and

997
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:42.239
<v Speaker 4>his experiments. Roswell and Los Alamos is very significant because

998
00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:44.639
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, if you're familiar with doctor Goddard, he

999
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:50.199
<v Speaker 4>pretty much kicked off the propulsion technology where Parson built

1000
00:57:50.280 --> 00:57:53.320
<v Speaker 4>it on, and all that happened in Roswell and Los

1001
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:54.119
<v Speaker 4>Alamo's area.

1002
00:57:54.760 --> 00:58:00.159
<v Speaker 2>So paying oh yeah, yeah, that's a great tie. So

1003
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:03.519
<v Speaker 2>great week. They're working with the paper Clip Nazis big

1004
00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:06.159
<v Speaker 2>time in forty seven. That's when that's when we start

1005
00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:09.840
<v Speaker 2>to see those efforts to steak those guys over here.

1006
00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:12.199
<v Speaker 2>That's when we start to see stuff coming the fruition

1007
00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:15.679
<v Speaker 2>with this relationship that we're building with the Nazis.

1008
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:17.880
<v Speaker 4>And some of the stuff that you know Nick has

1009
00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:21.039
<v Speaker 4>done really well on and kind of shown, is that

1010
00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:25.079
<v Speaker 4>Nazis were already well German who had more of a

1011
00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:29.639
<v Speaker 4>sympathetic leaning towards Nazism. We're already in New York and

1012
00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:32.960
<v Speaker 4>we're already here prior to paper Clip.

1013
00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, World we're.

1014
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:41.239
<v Speaker 4>Yes, and they were actively conducting a large majority of experimentation,

1015
00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:44.039
<v Speaker 4>everything from eugenics to aerospace to.

1016
00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:49.239
<v Speaker 3>Medical trials, anything like that.

1017
00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:52.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so when you bring in the people from paper Clip,

1018
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:55.760
<v Speaker 4>it's almost like here, here's some extra scientists to help

1019
00:58:55.800 --> 00:58:56.480
<v Speaker 4>you on your work.

1020
00:58:56.880 --> 00:59:01.519
<v Speaker 2>Almost. Von Braun was working a deal in nineteen forty

1021
00:59:01.519 --> 00:59:07.760
<v Speaker 2>four for his sort of escape from Germany, I guess

1022
00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:12.159
<v Speaker 2>you could call it. He went through General Electric and

1023
00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:16.559
<v Speaker 2>was you know, he's an active Nazi and Hitler still

1024
00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:19.199
<v Speaker 2>alive or they're still at war, they're still trying to

1025
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:22.960
<v Speaker 2>make this work for themselves. And von Braun's going behind

1026
00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:26.280
<v Speaker 2>the back of the entire rite talking to Americans through

1027
00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:30.199
<v Speaker 2>General Electric in nineteen forty four to sort of broker

1028
00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:36.519
<v Speaker 2>a deal for his sort of passage into America. It was,

1029
00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:38.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's like he's bringing stuff to the table.

1030
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:39.920
<v Speaker 2>He's like, this is what I'll do for you, this

1031
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:41.920
<v Speaker 2>is what i'll do for your space race, this is

1032
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:45.400
<v Speaker 2>what I'll do for your rocketsho program. He'll work with God,

1033
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:48.360
<v Speaker 2>leaving all these guys and he'll bring something crucial to

1034
00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:51.880
<v Speaker 2>the table. That's what his bargaining chip was. And that

1035
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:54.880
<v Speaker 2>was in nineteen forty four and you know, so they

1036
00:59:55.199 --> 00:59:58.599
<v Speaker 2>and he wasn't just brokering for himself. He was trying

1037
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:00.719
<v Speaker 2>to get some of his other top eyes over there

1038
01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:05.639
<v Speaker 2>that were active Nazis deals. Yes, it was all worked

1039
01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:06.800
<v Speaker 2>out right.

1040
01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:10.960
<v Speaker 4>And another part of you know that aerospace tends to

1041
01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:13.880
<v Speaker 4>get a lot of attention. But one of the main

1042
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.119
<v Speaker 4>things that kind of has also come out of this

1043
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:22.480
<v Speaker 4>aerospace paper clip Nazi esque science is the medical advancements

1044
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:28.280
<v Speaker 4>because they were also experimenting of medical science or aeronautics science.

1045
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:32.719
<v Speaker 4>You have astrobiology type coming out all this work as

1046
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:36.559
<v Speaker 4>well from paper clip Nazis, but working in tandem with

1047
01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:38.559
<v Speaker 4>aerospace Nazis as well.

1048
01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would be I G. Farben would be a

1049
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:47.679
<v Speaker 2>part of that, all that.

1050
01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:48.159
<v Speaker 1>Stuff and.

1051
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Our technology too, Like where we're at currently, it wouldn't

1052
01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:58.039
<v Speaker 2>be possible with that. And I know it's like weird,

1053
01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:00.519
<v Speaker 2>it's like, uh, you know, where did it all come from?

1054
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I think I said that earlier. It's like, you know,

1055
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:06.400
<v Speaker 2>what would build our internet that would change us and

1056
01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:10.360
<v Speaker 2>really put us on a pedestal as you know, a

1057
01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:14.440
<v Speaker 2>historical pestal above a lot of other people throughout history.

1058
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:17.599
<v Speaker 2>Our technology does that and all that comes out of

1059
01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I think comes out of the late forties and forty seven,

1060
01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:22.760
<v Speaker 2>and I think it even goes so far as like

1061
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:26.320
<v Speaker 2>the particle colliders and CERN, because I think it was

1062
01:01:26.480 --> 01:01:30.800
<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty three the Nazis built the first particle clider.

1063
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:33.920
<v Speaker 2>They had a guy over there who designed it. His

1064
01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:39.039
<v Speaker 2>name was Rolf wider Road. After the war, he goes

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01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:44.519
<v Speaker 2>and works for CERN. Then CERN releases the Internet. They

1066
01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:46.639
<v Speaker 2>put it out first. They had there was a scientist

1067
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:50.000
<v Speaker 2>at CERN named Tim berners Lee who put the Internet

1068
01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:54.000
<v Speaker 2>out first. He did WWWHTTV all that stuff. He released

1069
01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:56.760
<v Speaker 2>it first. So you see the same people who give

1070
01:01:56.840 --> 01:02:00.280
<v Speaker 2>us the particle collider that's like blasting holes and dimensions

1071
01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:03.320
<v Speaker 2>give us the Internet. And it's like, is that a

1072
01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:07.360
<v Speaker 2>coincidence when he goes back to Nazi Germany? Yeah?

1073
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:07.639
<v Speaker 1>No.

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01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:11.280
<v Speaker 4>And and another to parallel to what you're saying nineteen

1075
01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:14.639
<v Speaker 4>forty three, In nineteen forty one, Oppenheimer was also a Nazi,

1076
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:17.440
<v Speaker 4>well not Nazi, I'm sorry, he was German. Let me,

1077
01:02:17.559 --> 01:02:21.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm miss. He was also in conversations with Fermi Lab

1078
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:25.960
<v Speaker 4>in Chicago, and Fermi Lab is the American version of CERN.

1079
01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:29.880
<v Speaker 4>And so you're having them do almost the same thing

1080
01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:33.159
<v Speaker 4>as Stern was doing as well. Why Fermi Lab didn't

1081
01:02:33.199 --> 01:02:35.000
<v Speaker 4>give us the Internet. I don't know, maybe they have

1082
01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:40.760
<v Speaker 4>their own Internet. But CERN as well is almost happening

1083
01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:44.119
<v Speaker 4>at the same time. So yeah, all of that is

1084
01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:46.119
<v Speaker 4>extremely ties in.

1085
01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:48.519
<v Speaker 2>Where are you guys at right now? Are you guys

1086
01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:49.480
<v Speaker 2>in New England or.

1087
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm in New York or no, jeez, North Carolina? Forgot? Oh?

1088
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay, are you are you from up that way?

1089
01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:56.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm from New York.

1090
01:02:56.679 --> 01:03:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, New York. I was inferming this from your podcast,

1091
01:03:01.159 --> 01:03:03.079
<v Speaker 2>The New York Patriots. I figured you were from there.

1092
01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:06.599
<v Speaker 2>The New York has brook Haven National Labs.

1093
01:03:06.679 --> 01:03:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I lived like twenty minutes away from them.

1094
01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:13.440
<v Speaker 2>And they they're they're another little mini version of CERN.

1095
01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:16.679
<v Speaker 2>There's all kinds of crazy stuff that involves that's a

1096
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:21.440
<v Speaker 2>whole other show, like brook Haven's involvement in like the

1097
01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Mandela Effect even and like what's it Montalk Point and

1098
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:28.440
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff, which those guys were probably Nazis at

1099
01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Montak who are doing. I think they may have had

1100
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:32.559
<v Speaker 2>a particle glider in the basement of that place at

1101
01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:34.679
<v Speaker 2>one point. They were trying to make these like X

1102
01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:38.760
<v Speaker 2>men kids, right, like these psychic Assassin kids at montoc

1103
01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:42.639
<v Speaker 2>At least, that's like the lore about it that a

1104
01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:45.400
<v Speaker 2>lot of that, a lot of those guys probably went

1105
01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:46.440
<v Speaker 2>to brook Haven.

1106
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:47.559
<v Speaker 1>And started working on.

1107
01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:53.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah. And and also it was another place

1108
01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:56.719
<v Speaker 2>with a particle collider over here that released the Internet

1109
01:03:56.760 --> 01:03:59.480
<v Speaker 2>over here, So it was CERN. They released it first

1110
01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:02.840
<v Speaker 2>out in you know, Europe, and then not too long

1111
01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:05.480
<v Speaker 2>after that, one of our places over here with a

1112
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:09.119
<v Speaker 2>particle collider released the Internet. And I think it may

1113
01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:11.159
<v Speaker 2>have been a place in California. I'd have to look

1114
01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:11.719
<v Speaker 2>it up again.

1115
01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:15.639
<v Speaker 4>So you have for me lab, which is a particle collider.

1116
01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:19.519
<v Speaker 4>There was going to be the first part before CERN.

1117
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:22.599
<v Speaker 4>There was going to be a particle collider built outside

1118
01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:26.360
<v Speaker 4>of Waxahachie, Texas where they say Tyler, Texas, but Tyler

1119
01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:30.480
<v Speaker 4>too far. It was Waxahachie, Texas. Was it was bought,

1120
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:35.159
<v Speaker 4>it was molded, it was cut out, tunnels were made,

1121
01:04:35.320 --> 01:04:40.679
<v Speaker 4>and I heard actual, you know, instrumentation was starting to

1122
01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:43.000
<v Speaker 4>be put in. They had secured the money and then

1123
01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:46.280
<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden it just stopped. No one continued it.

1124
01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:48.679
<v Speaker 4>And I believe it was h Bush that secured most

1125
01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:52.679
<v Speaker 4>of the funding for them and then all of a sudden,

1126
01:04:52.719 --> 01:04:53.519
<v Speaker 4>Sern opens up.

1127
01:04:54.800 --> 01:05:00.840
<v Speaker 2>So what happened don't know, but yeah, there's images online

1128
01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:03.800
<v Speaker 2>of that place still there. It's just a big empty warehouse.

1129
01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:07.840
<v Speaker 2>I guess Reagan, Reagan in the eighties was talking to

1130
01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:14.440
<v Speaker 2>the Soviets, talking to Gorbachev something that the Soviets got

1131
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:18.559
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of Nazis as well. They were developing nuclear

1132
01:05:19.599 --> 01:05:23.320
<v Speaker 2>fusion over there, and the Nazis that from their their

1133
01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:25.360
<v Speaker 2>version of paper clip, it was the Nazis that were

1134
01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:28.920
<v Speaker 2>driving it. So Russia got ahead of us in the

1135
01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:32.239
<v Speaker 2>nuclear fusion game. So Reagan was was talking to him

1136
01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:35.840
<v Speaker 2>about all that stuff. Something happened where out of those talks,

1137
01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Reagan decided to start majorly, majorly funding the particle colliers

1138
01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:42.400
<v Speaker 2>over here. So there's some sort of a connection with that.

1139
01:05:43.199 --> 01:05:46.239
<v Speaker 2>All this all this sci fi technology, it's all connected

1140
01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:50.920
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day. At Brookhaven National Labs,

1141
01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:54.960
<v Speaker 2>from what I understand, is an inspiration for the Stranger

1142
01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:59.639
<v Speaker 2>Things show because they called that Something Lab Hawking's National

1143
01:05:59.719 --> 01:06:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Lab in that show, and I think they based it

1144
01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:03.880
<v Speaker 2>off of Brookhaven and of course Montage.

1145
01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I like, again, I consider them kind of like, you know,

1146
01:06:09.559 --> 01:06:12.920
<v Speaker 1>working together Yeah.

1147
01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:15.119
<v Speaker 4>It's just fascinating to tie it all back in. Is

1148
01:06:15.159 --> 01:06:20.880
<v Speaker 4>that then Hubbard Crowley, they were all run and they

1149
01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:26.480
<v Speaker 4>they sorry about that. They there is kind of somewhat

1150
01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:32.320
<v Speaker 4>of an innuendo that they were also visiting New York

1151
01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:37.960
<v Speaker 4>Long Island area. So the majority of people that are

1152
01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:42.159
<v Speaker 4>working in the aerospace division at that time were affiliated

1153
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:42.960
<v Speaker 4>with the occult.

1154
01:06:43.960 --> 01:06:44.760
<v Speaker 3>There there was.

1155
01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:48.559
<v Speaker 4>A lot of I guess people saying that they were

1156
01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:53.079
<v Speaker 4>attending certain affiliations having to do with the occult.

1157
01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I see the occult running behind so many things that

1158
01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:01.599
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't get credit for or doesn't get acknowledged for.

1159
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:05.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean even science, like science itself. I always say this,

1160
01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:08.920
<v Speaker 2>the last alchemists, for the first scientists, and all those

1161
01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:11.960
<v Speaker 2>guys believed in some sort of spellcraft. At the end

1162
01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:14.079
<v Speaker 2>of the day, Isaac Newton and all of them, all

1163
01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:17.239
<v Speaker 2>the first Isaac Newton was a major, major alchemist. So

1164
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:20.480
<v Speaker 2>the occult is certainly there behind all of this stuff.

1165
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, and I think a lot of what we're

1166
01:07:23.480 --> 01:07:27.400
<v Speaker 2>seeing in our culture like this, we'll call it a

1167
01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:32.079
<v Speaker 2>manufactured culture war of modern times. I think it's you know,

1168
01:07:32.119 --> 01:07:35.840
<v Speaker 2>with the LGBT, et cetera. I think a lot of

1169
01:07:35.880 --> 01:07:38.760
<v Speaker 2>that is reminiscent of the old pagan worship of this

1170
01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:42.039
<v Speaker 2>goutys Istar as well, because even in the old Sumerian

1171
01:07:42.159 --> 01:07:44.719
<v Speaker 2>hymns she was praised for being able to turn men

1172
01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:48.440
<v Speaker 2>into women and vice versa. Men who served in the

1173
01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:53.079
<v Speaker 2>temple of Ishtar had to become androgenous. So and so

1174
01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:56.159
<v Speaker 2>this whole trans thing was big in the ancient world.

1175
01:07:56.199 --> 01:07:59.079
<v Speaker 2>It was big in asher Off, that was king Ogg city.

1176
01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:02.119
<v Speaker 2>He's the guy who makes appearance in the Bible, maybe

1177
01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:04.559
<v Speaker 2>the Enoch as well. He's like a nephul and giant guy.

1178
01:08:04.599 --> 01:08:07.639
<v Speaker 2>But his city was known to have these this big

1179
01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:11.159
<v Speaker 2>trans presence. It was a thing in Er, that Sumerian city.

1180
01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:16.479
<v Speaker 2>In fact, there's an old Sumerian hymn from twenty third

1181
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:21.079
<v Speaker 2>century BC in Er, and a priestess there wrote out

1182
01:08:21.079 --> 01:08:23.840
<v Speaker 2>this hymn. It still survives this day, and she wrote,

1183
01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:28.079
<v Speaker 2>to destroy and to create our yours Ishtar, to tear

1184
01:08:28.119 --> 01:08:32.079
<v Speaker 2>out and to establish our yours Ishtar, to turn a

1185
01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:33.880
<v Speaker 2>man in a woman and a woman and a man

1186
01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:40.439
<v Speaker 2>are yours Ishtar. So I see her as being sort

1187
01:08:40.479 --> 01:08:43.680
<v Speaker 2>of back, if you will, back in black Ishtar seems

1188
01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:46.479
<v Speaker 2>to be back, you know, or back back in Rainbow

1189
01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Black in Rainbow Black. So you know, she's she's a Phoenician,

1190
01:08:52.880 --> 01:08:57.359
<v Speaker 2>She's she's tied in the ball back speaking of ancient technology,

1191
01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:00.399
<v Speaker 2>if you look at ballbeck Lebanon, I mean, some of

1192
01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:04.760
<v Speaker 2>the biggest anomalies of the ancient world, the biggest megalithic

1193
01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:08.439
<v Speaker 2>cut blocks are there. That was one of her stomping grounds.

1194
01:09:08.439 --> 01:09:08.640
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1195
01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:12.720
<v Speaker 2>It's also right down the road from Mount Hermont where

1196
01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:15.960
<v Speaker 2>you see this story of the Watchers coming to Earth

1197
01:09:16.439 --> 01:09:19.840
<v Speaker 2>and you know, producing the netil. That's I thought that

1198
01:09:19.920 --> 01:09:24.800
<v Speaker 2>that's an interesting tie in that she's her sort of headquarters,

1199
01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:27.640
<v Speaker 2>her sort of area is in this Mount Hermont area

1200
01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:32.640
<v Speaker 2>that's very closely aligned with Genesis six. But yeah, transgenderism,

1201
01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:35.239
<v Speaker 2>I think it goes back to the priesthood of Anna

1202
01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:41.800
<v Speaker 2>and before that. It may have been possibly a bastardization

1203
01:09:42.079 --> 01:09:46.920
<v Speaker 2>of the androgynous serpent that was in the garden, the

1204
01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Garden of Eden, because there's you know, there's a Gnostic

1205
01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:53.840
<v Speaker 2>sort of a Gnostic protnostic viewpoint that that was that

1206
01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:56.920
<v Speaker 2>serpent in the garden of Eden nakashou is to Hebrew,

1207
01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:03.439
<v Speaker 2>but that it was part man, part woman, you know,

1208
01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:08.039
<v Speaker 2>part lilith. Actually you know, there's that goes into like

1209
01:10:08.079 --> 01:10:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Batha Man. I don't want to go too far off

1210
01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:12.079
<v Speaker 2>the rails with this, but actually I could tie this in. Yeah,

1211
01:10:12.520 --> 01:10:14.960
<v Speaker 2>people will know bapha Met because it's that figure with

1212
01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:17.600
<v Speaker 2>the horns that people are, you know, everybody knows. So

1213
01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:21.960
<v Speaker 2>there's a theory on bapha Met that it goes back

1214
01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:26.000
<v Speaker 2>to I think Eliphus Levy or Levi, and he sort

1215
01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:29.560
<v Speaker 2>of coins this image of bapha Met and he hadn't

1216
01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:35.039
<v Speaker 2>originally depicted with two Hebrew figures. One figure mints m

1217
01:10:35.079 --> 01:10:40.119
<v Speaker 2>il one meant Lilith, so it's both male and female.

1218
01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Is supposed to represent the male and female sides of

1219
01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:46.359
<v Speaker 2>the serpent from the garden, and the female side is Lilith,

1220
01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:51.079
<v Speaker 2>who was this primordial entity that existed before Adam and Eve.

1221
01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:53.680
<v Speaker 2>So there's speculation that she was there at the fall

1222
01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:56.439
<v Speaker 2>of Man and she was a part of that whole thing.

1223
01:10:57.039 --> 01:11:01.479
<v Speaker 2>And what interests me about that is that it's comparable

1224
01:11:01.479 --> 01:11:07.079
<v Speaker 2>to Ishtar because they're both these primordial female goddess figures

1225
01:11:07.319 --> 01:11:13.239
<v Speaker 2>that go way back. They sort of existed before us.

1226
01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:17.039
<v Speaker 2>We don't know how old they are. Ancient astro intelligence.

1227
01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:24.800
<v Speaker 4>Perhaps Nick did a great episode on Heinrich Kunroth and

1228
01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:30.039
<v Speaker 4>he was an ocultist, and elpis Levi credits Kunroth for

1229
01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:31.680
<v Speaker 4>the inspiration of his Baphomet.

1230
01:11:33.119 --> 01:11:35.479
<v Speaker 3>And if you look at one of his plates, I

1231
01:11:35.520 --> 01:11:40.640
<v Speaker 3>think it's called yeah to look for it, you see

1232
01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:44.640
<v Speaker 3>a male and a female merged together, like all the

1233
01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:48.319
<v Speaker 3>way down the middle right, insomuch that you have Solveae

1234
01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:53.560
<v Speaker 3>and Kualila on the other. And that is written on

1235
01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:59.039
<v Speaker 3>the inside of Baphomet's arms. And elphis Levi says that

1236
01:11:59.159 --> 01:12:02.199
<v Speaker 3>he got that from Coonroth. And when you look at

1237
01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:06.319
<v Speaker 3>Coonroth's thing, you see a man with the pecturelus muscle,

1238
01:12:06.359 --> 01:12:08.279
<v Speaker 3>and then you see a female with an actual breast.

1239
01:12:08.760 --> 01:12:11.239
<v Speaker 3>You look at the actual arms. One is more.

1240
01:12:11.159 --> 01:12:13.560
<v Speaker 4>Muscular, the other one is not as muscular. You look

1241
01:12:13.560 --> 01:12:16.880
<v Speaker 4>at the hair, You look at the head. One is

1242
01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:19.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, more feminine, the other one is more masculine.

1243
01:12:19.159 --> 01:12:21.359
<v Speaker 4>And then you see also the sun and the moon

1244
01:12:21.399 --> 01:12:24.840
<v Speaker 4>and the ration of the emanations of what Coonrod was

1245
01:12:24.840 --> 01:12:25.640
<v Speaker 4>trying to talk about.

1246
01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:27.479
<v Speaker 3>You have a primordial egg at the bottom.

1247
01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:28.079
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1248
01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:36.359
<v Speaker 4>It's a lot more information on on the Baphomet. And

1249
01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:39.359
<v Speaker 4>elvisleeve I obviously was was going in a direction with

1250
01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:47.079
<v Speaker 4>his Baphomet. Yes, this is it exactly. And this, if

1251
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:50.399
<v Speaker 4>you look at also has a zof on.

1252
01:12:50.479 --> 01:12:54.520
<v Speaker 3>There, right is it asof I can't do this anymore?

1253
01:12:55.239 --> 01:12:59.560
<v Speaker 4>And with this one it has the three different you

1254
01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:04.600
<v Speaker 4>have in Hebrew and Greek, and the actual theme of

1255
01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:08.800
<v Speaker 4>threes is pervasive throughout this emblem. A's a, you know,

1256
01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:11.600
<v Speaker 4>it breaks it down to where A is the first letter.

1257
01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:15.479
<v Speaker 4>Z is also the last letter, I think, and somehow

1258
01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:19.520
<v Speaker 4>it's represented with Greek and Hebrew and then Latin somehow

1259
01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:23.039
<v Speaker 4>in that actual thing. And then it has a peacock

1260
01:13:23.640 --> 01:13:26.359
<v Speaker 4>with the eyes, a lot of eye symbolism, a lot

1261
01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:31.399
<v Speaker 4>of brain symbolism in this as well. And then I

1262
01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:34.640
<v Speaker 4>believe it also has you know, the fountain kind of

1263
01:13:34.680 --> 01:13:37.319
<v Speaker 4>coming out coming out of the plural or whatever, the

1264
01:13:37.600 --> 01:13:43.159
<v Speaker 4>center of the abdomen. And so it is like tying

1265
01:13:43.319 --> 01:13:46.039
<v Speaker 4>back to what you're saying, is that, yeah, you have

1266
01:13:47.239 --> 01:13:54.239
<v Speaker 4>all of this type of mysticism, occultism, alchemy coming through

1267
01:13:54.880 --> 01:13:59.000
<v Speaker 4>and reverberating, you know, throughout the timeline.

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01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I mean I see it. I'm glad

1269
01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:08.000
<v Speaker 2>you said alchemy because I see this huge in alchemy.

1270
01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:11.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, when you look at people like Pascuale or

1271
01:14:11.560 --> 01:14:18.119
<v Speaker 2>even Paracelsi's I've read both those guys books. Paracelsis is

1272
01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:20.239
<v Speaker 2>a little hairy because there's a lot of books out

1273
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:24.439
<v Speaker 2>that people say he didn't actually write. But in the

1274
01:14:24.479 --> 01:14:27.720
<v Speaker 2>book that I found of his that he we think

1275
01:14:27.760 --> 01:14:31.760
<v Speaker 2>he wrote, it mirrors what Pascali was saying a couple

1276
01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:35.079
<v Speaker 2>of centuries later. But the whole thing is like they

1277
01:14:35.079 --> 01:14:37.880
<v Speaker 2>were they were getting in contact with these other entities.

1278
01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:40.520
<v Speaker 2>That was the whole thing it was. It was just

1279
01:14:40.600 --> 01:14:43.399
<v Speaker 2>like it reads just like what you see in the

1280
01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Battle I'm working or what you see with Johnny and

1281
01:14:45.640 --> 01:14:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Edward Kelly. They were, uh, the alchemists just had a

1282
01:14:49.039 --> 01:14:51.199
<v Speaker 2>little different way of going about it. They weren't so

1283
01:14:51.399 --> 01:14:56.800
<v Speaker 2>ceremonial necessarily, but they were working with these elemental spirits.

1284
01:14:56.960 --> 01:14:58.920
<v Speaker 2>That's how they were doing their alchemy.

1285
01:15:00.159 --> 01:15:05.000
<v Speaker 4>So Paracelsius himself, when he was at school, he was

1286
01:15:05.039 --> 01:15:10.000
<v Speaker 4>a rebel and he definitely basically would come out and

1287
01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:12.680
<v Speaker 4>just say, y'all are all wrong, then this is why.

1288
01:15:13.039 --> 01:15:15.479
<v Speaker 4>And he got kicked out of the academy that he

1289
01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:17.920
<v Speaker 4>was in or that he was teaching, and most of

1290
01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:18.520
<v Speaker 4>all his.

1291
01:15:18.439 --> 01:15:19.279
<v Speaker 3>Books were burned.

1292
01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:25.640
<v Speaker 4>So anything attributed to Para Celsius was downplayed or negated

1293
01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:28.960
<v Speaker 4>or said it was wrong. When you look at Coonroth

1294
01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:32.119
<v Speaker 4>and you look at some of these other philosophers, alchemists,

1295
01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:37.319
<v Speaker 4>occultists that are not readily talked about, they all promote

1296
01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:40.279
<v Speaker 4>and are students of Paraceelsius.

1297
01:15:40.880 --> 01:15:43.960
<v Speaker 3>So you almost see a trend in that if you

1298
01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:50.800
<v Speaker 3>somehow align yourself with these rejects, so to speak, your cast,

1299
01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:55.239
<v Speaker 3>you're not going to be put out in the mainstream

1300
01:15:55.359 --> 01:15:58.239
<v Speaker 3>and certainly people are not going to talk about or

1301
01:15:58.279 --> 01:16:04.239
<v Speaker 3>teach what you were. You know, looking at and Kepler,

1302
01:16:05.119 --> 01:16:09.119
<v Speaker 3>where we get all our telescopes, was heavily influenced and

1303
01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:12.720
<v Speaker 3>fired by Coonroth. But you don't hear about Coonroth. You

1304
01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:17.560
<v Speaker 3>hear about why because Kepler aligned himself with Paracelsius.

1305
01:16:18.159 --> 01:16:21.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, maybe it was before we hit record and

1306
01:16:21.159 --> 01:16:23.119
<v Speaker 2>started the show. But this goes back to what I

1307
01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:26.720
<v Speaker 2>was trying to articulate when I was talking about the

1308
01:16:27.039 --> 01:16:31.600
<v Speaker 2>ticking off the you know, hardcore charatians antech taking off

1309
01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:36.960
<v Speaker 2>like hardcore secular scientists. But it's because of this this

1310
01:16:37.479 --> 01:16:40.479
<v Speaker 2>thread that you're talking about right here. These guys did

1311
01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:44.159
<v Speaker 2>not fit in in with any either one of those crowds.

1312
01:16:44.800 --> 01:16:47.880
<v Speaker 2>They were absolutely rejects. I like that tie in. You know,

1313
01:16:47.920 --> 01:16:51.960
<v Speaker 2>they were certainly the occult rejects of their day, and

1314
01:16:52.199 --> 01:16:54.960
<v Speaker 2>they were getting their books, are being burnt, some of

1315
01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:57.520
<v Speaker 2>them were being killed. They were being like I said,

1316
01:16:57.520 --> 01:16:59.079
<v Speaker 2>I think I mentioned there was a guy that got

1317
01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:02.279
<v Speaker 2>pushed out all the way to Pennsylvania. He crossed the

1318
01:17:02.279 --> 01:17:05.359
<v Speaker 2>ocean to get away from this persecution. But yeah, these

1319
01:17:05.399 --> 01:17:09.960
<v Speaker 2>guys were, uh, they were certainly and Paracelsus or Celsus,

1320
01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:13.119
<v Speaker 2>I should say he was actually Celsius. I always get

1321
01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:14.239
<v Speaker 2>this wrong pair of Celsius.

1322
01:17:14.279 --> 01:17:15.039
<v Speaker 3>I think it's Celsus.

1323
01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:18.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't know him.

1324
01:17:18.439 --> 01:17:20.720
<v Speaker 3>I have no idea he was.

1325
01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:24.680
<v Speaker 2>He was, Yeah, he was one of the biggest rebels

1326
01:17:24.760 --> 01:17:28.199
<v Speaker 2>of them all. It's almost beautiful to go back and

1327
01:17:28.199 --> 01:17:32.479
<v Speaker 2>and see how one man could like buck the system

1328
01:17:32.560 --> 01:17:37.399
<v Speaker 2>that hard, and we got all these great ideas and

1329
01:17:37.760 --> 01:17:44.800
<v Speaker 2>long lasting remedies from him, even spajerics. Yes, you know,

1330
01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:47.800
<v Speaker 2>the medical you know this is another rabbit hole. But

1331
01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:54.279
<v Speaker 2>this Rockefeller medical system that we're under right now. Uh,

1332
01:17:54.399 --> 01:17:57.359
<v Speaker 2>before they got rid of all the herbal medication and

1333
01:17:57.359 --> 01:18:01.159
<v Speaker 2>and all the you know, legitimate paths to healing the body,

1334
01:18:01.199 --> 01:18:04.840
<v Speaker 2>before they replaced all that with patroleum based pills. I

1335
01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:09.960
<v Speaker 2>think we were still using the the mechanisms that Paracelsus

1336
01:18:10.039 --> 01:18:14.399
<v Speaker 2>gave us, like spajerics and tinctures and herb magic and

1337
01:18:14.439 --> 01:18:17.760
<v Speaker 2>all that great stuff. This stuff was around for a

1338
01:18:17.800 --> 01:18:20.079
<v Speaker 2>long time. I think when it comes to him, I

1339
01:18:20.079 --> 01:18:26.800
<v Speaker 2>think this stuff just recently got uprooted out of society.

1340
01:18:28.279 --> 01:18:29.359
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't profitable.

1341
01:18:30.039 --> 01:18:34.760
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't profitable. You can't patent an herb. These guys

1342
01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:37.560
<v Speaker 2>were working with stuff that natural stuff that comes from

1343
01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:42.319
<v Speaker 2>the Earth, and also they were combining this knowledge of that.

1344
01:18:42.359 --> 01:18:44.520
<v Speaker 2>They seemed to have a knowledge of the heavens as well,

1345
01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:47.119
<v Speaker 2>because they were factoring in, you know, what planet's going

1346
01:18:47.199 --> 01:18:48.479
<v Speaker 2>to be where when they did a lot of this

1347
01:18:48.520 --> 01:18:51.760
<v Speaker 2>stuff too. But you know, I had some I had

1348
01:18:51.800 --> 01:18:53.920
<v Speaker 2>some really crazy stuff happened to me while I was

1349
01:18:53.960 --> 01:18:56.880
<v Speaker 2>researching all this ishtar stuff too. Just to bring it

1350
01:18:56.920 --> 01:19:03.000
<v Speaker 2>back to that for a second, I mean, I I

1351
01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:04.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know where I stand on it, you know it.

1352
01:19:04.920 --> 01:19:07.239
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I feel like I'm half kind of

1353
01:19:07.399 --> 01:19:10.039
<v Speaker 2>kooky or crazy by coming out and talking about this

1354
01:19:10.359 --> 01:19:13.760
<v Speaker 2>ancient entity and talking about her as if she is real.

1355
01:19:14.600 --> 01:19:17.239
<v Speaker 2>But I do think that there is something to this

1356
01:19:18.359 --> 01:19:20.399
<v Speaker 2>because of this conversation we're having right now. I mean,

1357
01:19:20.439 --> 01:19:24.520
<v Speaker 2>these guys were not communing with an imaginary fiction necessarily.

1358
01:19:24.520 --> 01:19:27.399
<v Speaker 2>When they were, they were working with elementals, and they

1359
01:19:27.399 --> 01:19:29.800
<v Speaker 2>weren't coming up with that. They weren't. It wasn't an

1360
01:19:29.800 --> 01:19:33.359
<v Speaker 2>imaginary friend. They were working with some sort of something

1361
01:19:34.039 --> 01:19:37.600
<v Speaker 2>on the other side of the veil. Putting a name

1362
01:19:37.680 --> 01:19:41.359
<v Speaker 2>to it is difficult. But when you look throughout history

1363
01:19:41.359 --> 01:19:46.319
<v Speaker 2>and you see all these these dots being connected, it's like,

1364
01:19:46.359 --> 01:19:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I have to kind of present this as if she's

1365
01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:52.159
<v Speaker 2>real because and then and then I, you know, I

1366
01:19:52.199 --> 01:19:54.479
<v Speaker 2>had all this crazy stuff happen to me while I'm

1367
01:19:54.479 --> 01:19:57.199
<v Speaker 2>researching it. I mean, just on the one of the

1368
01:19:57.239 --> 01:19:59.159
<v Speaker 2>things that happened, This one's kind of fun. I've had

1369
01:19:59.159 --> 01:20:04.560
<v Speaker 2>some creepy stuff happened too, but I was I was

1370
01:20:05.239 --> 01:20:09.239
<v Speaker 2>researching it. One day, I got on Instagram just to

1371
01:20:09.399 --> 01:20:15.079
<v Speaker 2>check my my podcast show messages. I don't like being

1372
01:20:15.119 --> 01:20:18.000
<v Speaker 2>on there, so I was just gonna get on, check

1373
01:20:18.039 --> 01:20:21.000
<v Speaker 2>my messages, and get off. That was the plan. But

1374
01:20:21.159 --> 01:20:22.840
<v Speaker 2>you know how it is, when you get on Instagram,

1375
01:20:22.840 --> 01:20:25.159
<v Speaker 2>there's always that one picture at the top of the

1376
01:20:25.199 --> 01:20:29.560
<v Speaker 2>feed that you see. So before I clicked on messages,

1377
01:20:29.600 --> 01:20:33.319
<v Speaker 2>I see the picture and it's the new Kirks from

1378
01:20:33.399 --> 01:20:38.520
<v Speaker 2>the Helier season or from the Heiler Show. They're standing

1379
01:20:38.560 --> 01:20:42.279
<v Speaker 2>next to a statue of Venus. So I was like,

1380
01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:46.119
<v Speaker 2>I know, I think, I see what's happening here. This

1381
01:20:46.159 --> 01:20:48.039
<v Speaker 2>is the guy that I'm kind of looking into. So

1382
01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:49.880
<v Speaker 2>I look at the picture and they're like, you know,

1383
01:20:50.039 --> 01:20:54.760
<v Speaker 2>since since shooting Hell, you're we're now finding ourselves back

1384
01:20:54.760 --> 01:20:58.600
<v Speaker 2>in Kentucky for the first time. Things have changed, and

1385
01:20:58.680 --> 01:21:01.880
<v Speaker 2>nothing serious, but they say they were on they were

1386
01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:06.840
<v Speaker 2>in Ashland, Kentucky, and there's a statue of Venus right

1387
01:21:06.840 --> 01:21:09.399
<v Speaker 2>there on whatever banks of that river it is that

1388
01:21:09.479 --> 01:21:12.159
<v Speaker 2>runs through there. And I'm thinking to myself, that's that's

1389
01:21:12.279 --> 01:21:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Ashtar in Ashland, Kentucky. And it was on a day

1390
01:21:17.960 --> 01:21:19.920
<v Speaker 2>that I was, you know, I was researching this. I'm like,

1391
01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:21.039
<v Speaker 2>that's crazy.

1392
01:21:21.279 --> 01:21:23.279
<v Speaker 1>You know. Then they're tight. They're tight in with Alan

1393
01:21:23.319 --> 01:21:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Greenfield with that whole second not.

1394
01:21:24.880 --> 01:21:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Stuff that's that's thank you, because that's what I was

1395
01:21:28.119 --> 01:21:30.560
<v Speaker 2>going to say next. That's another part that's what really

1396
01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:33.680
<v Speaker 2>made me sit back, was like I was looking at

1397
01:21:33.840 --> 01:21:36.640
<v Speaker 2>that's that book Secret Cipher of the Euphonauts, which is

1398
01:21:37.359 --> 01:21:39.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, a big part of heil here.

1399
01:21:41.039 --> 01:21:42.680
<v Speaker 1>That's when it starts going on. It's like kind of

1400
01:21:42.680 --> 01:21:44.720
<v Speaker 1>like a silly goose chases Yester. They meet that kay

1401
01:21:45.319 --> 01:21:48.279
<v Speaker 1>mm hm, and like, I don't know man.

1402
01:21:48.439 --> 01:21:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Like so, I'm in Nashville, and a couple of years ago,

1403
01:21:53.520 --> 01:21:57.000
<v Speaker 2>right before I saw Heilier, I was out at a restaurant.

1404
01:21:57.039 --> 01:22:02.359
<v Speaker 2>I was out on the patio of this rid and

1405
01:22:02.960 --> 01:22:05.239
<v Speaker 2>there was a table right next to me. These were

1406
01:22:05.279 --> 01:22:07.039
<v Speaker 2>like these big, like picnic tables. So there was a

1407
01:22:07.079 --> 01:22:09.199
<v Speaker 2>lot of people out there, but the table next to

1408
01:22:09.239 --> 01:22:15.119
<v Speaker 2>me was like what's his name, Micah Hanks and a

1409
01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:18.520
<v Speaker 2>bunch of other people that I didn't know. But one

1410
01:22:18.520 --> 01:22:20.880
<v Speaker 2>of the guys who was sitting like facing me had

1411
01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:23.359
<v Speaker 2>a T shirt on. It was an F Society T

1412
01:22:23.520 --> 01:22:25.520
<v Speaker 2>shirt and I was like, that's a cool shirt because

1413
01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I love that show, mister Robot. So I remembered that,

1414
01:22:30.039 --> 01:22:32.840
<v Speaker 2>and I remembered that guy. And also with them, I

1415
01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:36.239
<v Speaker 2>remember there was this guy who would he looked young,

1416
01:22:36.319 --> 01:22:40.600
<v Speaker 2>but he had this like gray hair like so. And

1417
01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:42.960
<v Speaker 2>a couple of months later, I saw Heilier and I

1418
01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:46.840
<v Speaker 2>was like, those are the people from the restaurant, because

1419
01:22:46.920 --> 01:22:50.840
<v Speaker 2>I remembered Greg Newkirk, because I don't know. I just

1420
01:22:51.239 --> 01:22:55.520
<v Speaker 2>they for whatever reason, I'm at this restaurant, it's packed,

1421
01:22:55.640 --> 01:22:59.079
<v Speaker 2>this patios packed, there's people all around me. But I

1422
01:22:59.239 --> 01:23:01.560
<v Speaker 2>for some reason focused in on that group, and I

1423
01:23:02.079 --> 01:23:04.359
<v Speaker 2>saw them in Hellier late later. I don't know if

1424
01:23:04.359 --> 01:23:06.800
<v Speaker 2>they had just wrapped up filming or what. Maybe they

1425
01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:09.600
<v Speaker 2>were filming season two at that point, but I just

1426
01:23:09.640 --> 01:23:11.880
<v Speaker 2>thought that that was interesting, Like I was in the

1427
01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:13.199
<v Speaker 2>same room with these people.

1428
01:23:13.800 --> 01:23:14.159
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

1429
01:23:14.199 --> 01:23:18.399
<v Speaker 2>And I go on to to you know, to watch Hellier.

1430
01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:21.000
<v Speaker 2>And but then in my own research, I come across

1431
01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:23.439
<v Speaker 2>secret cipher of the Euphonauts and I do all this stuff.

1432
01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:25.720
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not like trying to write myself into like

1433
01:23:25.800 --> 01:23:28.359
<v Speaker 2>the hell you're mystique, you know, or whatever. I'm trying

1434
01:23:28.359 --> 01:23:29.960
<v Speaker 2>to fanboy on them. It's just weird.

1435
01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Of course, it'd be pretty bugged out if I ran

1436
01:23:33.159 --> 01:23:33.439
<v Speaker 1>into them.

1437
01:23:34.039 --> 01:23:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah interesting, you know, you know, Yeah, I don't necessarily

1438
01:23:41.359 --> 01:23:46.119
<v Speaker 2>believe in aliens from some other galaxy. Maybe maybe I

1439
01:23:46.119 --> 01:23:51.319
<v Speaker 2>don't know I've seen UFOs, but that's not really what

1440
01:23:51.359 --> 01:23:55.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm pushing with this. I mean, I think we have

1441
01:23:55.439 --> 01:23:58.720
<v Speaker 2>some historical precedent here to say that ish Star exists

1442
01:23:59.199 --> 01:24:02.319
<v Speaker 2>and is has been interacting with humans for a long time,

1443
01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:05.640
<v Speaker 2>and it might be a part of this UFO disclosure

1444
01:24:05.720 --> 01:24:10.319
<v Speaker 2>thing because she shows up. All these occultists are talking

1445
01:24:10.359 --> 01:24:12.640
<v Speaker 2>to her right around the time that this pops off.

1446
01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:18.159
<v Speaker 2>So that's what this research is about, you know. And

1447
01:24:19.359 --> 01:24:22.880
<v Speaker 2>if you take a Biblical approach and you look at

1448
01:24:22.880 --> 01:24:27.880
<v Speaker 2>that were principalities in there. I think it's Ephesians. I

1449
01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:31.159
<v Speaker 2>don't remember the exact first, but they talk about these principalities.

1450
01:24:31.199 --> 01:24:36.000
<v Speaker 2>They seem to be these entities that govern. It reminded

1451
01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:39.840
<v Speaker 2>me of what I saw in some of Paracelsis and

1452
01:24:40.159 --> 01:24:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Pasquale's work, where they're talking about these sections of the

1453
01:24:44.039 --> 01:24:49.800
<v Speaker 2>cosmos that are governed by these like cosmic entities. They

1454
01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:53.079
<v Speaker 2>have their little section they govern, and then to get

1455
01:24:53.119 --> 01:24:55.960
<v Speaker 2>to them, you have to work with these lower panel

1456
01:24:56.039 --> 01:24:59.239
<v Speaker 2>of like elemental spirits. But ultimately you're trying to work

1457
01:24:59.279 --> 01:25:03.600
<v Speaker 2>with these these governors that have their own like you know,

1458
01:25:04.039 --> 01:25:06.159
<v Speaker 2>section of space or whatever you want to call it

1459
01:25:06.239 --> 01:25:10.880
<v Speaker 2>up there. Uh, that's what principalities looks like to me

1460
01:25:10.920 --> 01:25:14.800
<v Speaker 2>in the Bible, these people that govern parts of Earth

1461
01:25:14.840 --> 01:25:19.159
<v Speaker 2>and maybe parts of the heavens. So I started thinking, like,

1462
01:25:19.159 --> 01:25:21.600
<v Speaker 2>what if they you also have this word host, the

1463
01:25:21.640 --> 01:25:23.680
<v Speaker 2>host of heaven. You see in the Bible, it seems

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01:25:23.680 --> 01:25:27.159
<v Speaker 2>to be an army and and like it talks about

1465
01:25:27.159 --> 01:25:31.399
<v Speaker 2>this as like almost like a uh something that these

1466
01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:34.520
<v Speaker 2>principalities have at their disposal. It's almost like they have

1467
01:25:34.680 --> 01:25:37.399
<v Speaker 2>an army that they, you know, like a prince would

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01:25:37.399 --> 01:25:39.840
<v Speaker 2>on Earth. Of course they have an army, right, And

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01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:43.079
<v Speaker 2>I just started thinking like maybe I don't know, maybe

1470
01:25:43.079 --> 01:25:46.960
<v Speaker 2>some of these UFOs are like part of these entities

1471
01:25:47.000 --> 01:25:50.479
<v Speaker 2>little you know, racket, right, I don't know. I mean,

1472
01:25:50.520 --> 01:25:56.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, Whitley Strieber, he talks about using hypnotic progression,

1473
01:25:56.720 --> 01:26:01.520
<v Speaker 2>going on a craft and seeing these ship where all

1474
01:26:01.520 --> 01:26:05.159
<v Speaker 2>these these dead alien bodies are being stored. But they're

1475
01:26:05.159 --> 01:26:08.399
<v Speaker 2>not dead aliens. They're actually like gray suits. They're like

1476
01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:13.600
<v Speaker 2>something mechanical. They're like avatars. There's something there. The term

1477
01:26:13.640 --> 01:26:18.600
<v Speaker 2>that came to my mind was biological robots, something that

1478
01:26:18.680 --> 01:26:22.000
<v Speaker 2>somebody who had some advanced technology was able to create

1479
01:26:22.119 --> 01:26:24.520
<v Speaker 2>and they used them almost like a human or a

1480
01:26:25.479 --> 01:26:26.479
<v Speaker 2>real video game.

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01:26:27.359 --> 01:26:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:31.239
<v Speaker 2>And then there's a guy named Sean Starbacker who worked

1483
01:26:31.439 --> 01:26:34.720
<v Speaker 2>under research and development for Eisenhower. He knew Von Braun.

1484
01:26:34.760 --> 01:26:36.439
<v Speaker 2>He was a part of this paper clip Nazi thing.

1485
01:26:37.319 --> 01:26:44.279
<v Speaker 2>Robert Starbacker, he indicated from his He indicated that the

1486
01:26:44.279 --> 01:26:48.239
<v Speaker 2>bodies that they were recovering in the Eisenhower administration were

1487
01:26:49.279 --> 01:26:55.920
<v Speaker 2>engineered and made based on insects, but they were essentially robots,

1488
01:26:56.439 --> 01:26:59.239
<v Speaker 2>like they were again, they were these biological robots. So

1489
01:26:59.319 --> 01:27:03.760
<v Speaker 2>this points to this being maybe a form of some

1490
01:27:03.800 --> 01:27:06.880
<v Speaker 2>sort of high technology. And like, if you want to

1491
01:27:06.920 --> 01:27:10.840
<v Speaker 2>go real deep with it, some people think that Cain,

1492
01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:16.920
<v Speaker 2>after he killed Abel, established some sort of like high

1493
01:27:17.079 --> 01:27:22.079
<v Speaker 2>Atlantis type civilization, high technology Atlantean like stuff, and like

1494
01:27:22.319 --> 01:27:24.600
<v Speaker 2>if you look at the work of Agger Casey, he

1495
01:27:24.720 --> 01:27:27.159
<v Speaker 2>thought that some of what Ezekiel was seeing in the

1496
01:27:27.199 --> 01:27:33.439
<v Speaker 2>Bible those crafts was tech from this Caine Atlantis civilization.

1497
01:27:34.239 --> 01:27:37.840
<v Speaker 2>So for me, I think, I wonder if Ishtar has

1498
01:27:37.880 --> 01:27:40.720
<v Speaker 2>been involved with the development of this alien tech for

1499
01:27:40.760 --> 01:27:42.920
<v Speaker 2>a very long time and that's what we're seeing here.

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01:27:45.279 --> 01:27:49.399
<v Speaker 2>And then you've got guys like Chris Bledsoe. He's a

1501
01:27:49.399 --> 01:27:54.279
<v Speaker 2>big UFO guy in North Carolina actually Carolina. Yeah, he's

1502
01:27:54.319 --> 01:27:56.800
<v Speaker 2>in your stay or yeah, yeah, but he talks about

1503
01:27:56.840 --> 01:28:00.640
<v Speaker 2>this being a divine, feminine figure. He's the guy that

1504
01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:02.840
<v Speaker 2>goes out and calls down the UFOs like I've seen

1505
01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:06.119
<v Speaker 2>some of his videos on YouTube. He orbs or whatever

1506
01:28:06.159 --> 01:28:09.239
<v Speaker 2>they are seeing the show up but you know, divine,

1507
01:28:09.279 --> 01:28:11.960
<v Speaker 2>feminine figure, so it points back to this ishtar figure

1508
01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:14.039
<v Speaker 2>for me. But yeah, he's in North Carolina. Man, you

1509
01:28:14.079 --> 01:28:16.319
<v Speaker 2>should get check. You should go. I don't know him, but.

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01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:22.199
<v Speaker 1>Hey, see interesting. I'd be interested to actually watch him

1511
01:28:22.239 --> 01:28:26.079
<v Speaker 1>do his his stick. Yeah. Yeah, I actually have equipment

1512
01:28:26.079 --> 01:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>to it. You can film it all and got all

1513
01:28:27.800 --> 01:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>these demeters and things could get interesting. You know what.

1514
01:28:33.079 --> 01:28:35.039
<v Speaker 1>I I hate to do this to you but because

1515
01:28:35.039 --> 01:28:37.640
<v Speaker 1>of timing, but I haven't gonna have to wrap it up.

1516
01:28:38.199 --> 01:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I would love to have you back on if there's

1517
01:28:39.800 --> 01:28:42.239
<v Speaker 1>anything more about this we could talk about, or if

1518
01:28:42.239 --> 01:28:45.279
<v Speaker 1>there's anything else you think would fit the show. Well,

1519
01:28:45.279 --> 01:28:47.199
<v Speaker 1>the welcome to please come back on. So right, this

1520
01:28:47.319 --> 01:28:50.600
<v Speaker 1>is a really interesting topic. I mean I probably would

1521
01:28:50.600 --> 01:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>have ended up dragging it on, but like I I

1522
01:28:52.960 --> 01:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>could see I'm just making quick like kind of in

1523
01:28:55.800 --> 01:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>my opinion. Yeah, I think like you were saying, like

1524
01:28:58.720 --> 01:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you're not sure if like aliens are actually like some

1525
01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>physical being, but like I could like entertain like maybe

1526
01:29:03.960 --> 01:29:07.359
<v Speaker 1>an eggregor or a thought of mind, you know something,

1527
01:29:07.479 --> 01:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>or like even like a new structure or a frame

1528
01:29:10.039 --> 01:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>of thinking or something almost like another aon coming in possibly.

1529
01:29:14.119 --> 01:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, I can't entertain, like I think what

1530
01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:19.319
<v Speaker 1>you were saying. It interests me, you know. I definitely

1531
01:29:19.359 --> 01:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>found that rather interesting. And then that was like, damn,

1532
01:29:22.840 --> 01:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>if we ever get like a UFO syop and it's

1533
01:29:24.920 --> 01:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>like a female that comes down and talks to us

1534
01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:32.319
<v Speaker 1>on the sationship with fucked yeah, that's yeah, yeah.

1535
01:29:32.399 --> 01:29:36.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean Lou Alizondo said recently that this was a

1536
01:29:36.840 --> 01:29:39.760
<v Speaker 2>secret UFO arms race, and I don't know what he

1537
01:29:39.880 --> 01:29:41.720
<v Speaker 2>meant by that, but it did make me think about

1538
01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:46.479
<v Speaker 2>this research, like what if they're planning something military like

1539
01:29:46.920 --> 01:29:48.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, blue being like or whatever you want to

1540
01:29:48.920 --> 01:29:52.960
<v Speaker 2>call it. I know, I hear you, man, I hear you.

1541
01:29:52.960 --> 01:29:56.800
<v Speaker 2>You know. That's why I think I may have said

1542
01:29:56.840 --> 01:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>this earlier, Like I do go into the supernatural, maybe

1543
01:29:59.720 --> 01:30:03.560
<v Speaker 2>a little a bit more than some people do. But

1544
01:30:03.680 --> 01:30:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, even with my show, I always

1545
01:30:06.800 --> 01:30:11.119
<v Speaker 2>say all are welcome, everybody's welcome over, you know, I

1546
01:30:11.239 --> 01:30:12.880
<v Speaker 2>like to hear all the different perspectives.

1547
01:30:12.920 --> 01:30:16.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh, of course I understand that for sure, for sure.

1548
01:30:16.439 --> 01:30:18.840
<v Speaker 2>And that was I mean, that was pretty much the

1549
01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:21.279
<v Speaker 2>main bulk of what I had to say about this

1550
01:30:21.399 --> 01:30:24.800
<v Speaker 2>research pertaining to Ishtar. Anyway, you know, it's probably a

1551
01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:26.960
<v Speaker 2>good place to wrap it up. I mean, I could

1552
01:30:27.039 --> 01:30:30.279
<v Speaker 2>keep going, but you know, I think it's this God's

1553
01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I'll just wrap it up with this. I think it's

1554
01:30:32.000 --> 01:30:37.880
<v Speaker 2>this gods and men trope that we see the greater

1555
01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:41.000
<v Speaker 2>story of gods and men, because it's almost like it's

1556
01:30:41.000 --> 01:30:43.880
<v Speaker 2>a lingering memory for us that you know, you see

1557
01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:46.600
<v Speaker 2>all the Marvel movies and and all that. It seems

1558
01:30:46.680 --> 01:30:51.640
<v Speaker 2>like we're very obsessed as a society with superpowers. Like

1559
01:30:51.720 --> 01:30:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I went and saw gladiat Or two the other day.

1560
01:30:54.159 --> 01:30:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I saw eight or nine previews. All the previews except

1561
01:30:57.520 --> 01:31:02.439
<v Speaker 2>one featured people with superpowers. The only preview that didn't

1562
01:31:02.520 --> 01:31:04.920
<v Speaker 2>was like a guy who had a neural link that

1563
01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:07.399
<v Speaker 2>enabled him to come back from the dead over and

1564
01:31:07.439 --> 01:31:07.840
<v Speaker 2>over again.

1565
01:31:07.880 --> 01:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>So it's like still I said, from Twilight, right from Twilight,

1566
01:31:14.079 --> 01:31:16.079
<v Speaker 1>I saw that ship. Well I didn't see the movie,

1567
01:31:16.079 --> 01:31:17.520
<v Speaker 1>but I saw the coming of Texes of that, I

1568
01:31:17.560 --> 01:31:18.399
<v Speaker 1>was like, Yo, that is.

1569
01:31:18.359 --> 01:31:21.319
<v Speaker 2>Wild, and I just I just wonder, where does that

1570
01:31:21.359 --> 01:31:25.279
<v Speaker 2>inclination for us to be fascinated with superpowers? Where does

1571
01:31:25.319 --> 01:31:31.159
<v Speaker 2>that come from? I don't know. People say, people say,

1572
01:31:31.720 --> 01:31:34.439
<v Speaker 2>AI is going to be the first time we ever

1573
01:31:34.479 --> 01:31:38.760
<v Speaker 2>contend with something smarter than us, And I'm saying, I

1574
01:31:38.760 --> 01:31:41.399
<v Speaker 2>don't know. Hold up a minute. Maybe we've been dealing

1575
01:31:41.439 --> 01:31:45.920
<v Speaker 2>with something gods and men like that's been you know,

1576
01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:48.319
<v Speaker 2>it's in all the ancient texts, you know, not to

1577
01:31:48.319 --> 01:31:50.520
<v Speaker 2>get two ancient aliens on it. But I don't know.

1578
01:31:50.600 --> 01:31:51.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I.

1579
01:31:52.600 --> 01:31:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Think personally that we've always been dealing with something that

1580
01:31:57.640 --> 01:32:01.359
<v Speaker 2>it has an intelligence greater than ours, just beyond the

1581
01:32:01.439 --> 01:32:03.960
<v Speaker 2>veil perhaps, And that's that to me, And I think

1582
01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:06.520
<v Speaker 2>everybody's welcome to disagree with that for sure.

1583
01:32:06.760 --> 01:32:09.159
<v Speaker 1>Well I'll even say real quick, and then then I'll

1584
01:32:09.239 --> 01:32:10.720
<v Speaker 1>let least to say something if you want to, like

1585
01:32:10.800 --> 01:32:13.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of like give your opinion about this real quick. Again,

1586
01:32:13.960 --> 01:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>fucking with you basically going to come across a greater

1587
01:32:15.960 --> 01:32:20.760
<v Speaker 1>intelligence than yourself anyway, Yes, okay, Well, if you're fuck

1588
01:32:20.800 --> 01:32:24.479
<v Speaker 1>with magic, I agree with that. Yeah. So no, I

1589
01:32:24.479 --> 01:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>mean again, I can see it again as time, you know,

1590
01:32:26.680 --> 01:32:29.039
<v Speaker 1>maybe a magical experiences in there as well, somewhere in

1591
01:32:29.039 --> 01:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the works of all this.

1592
01:32:30.600 --> 01:32:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, well, and you know what, so if

1593
01:32:35.119 --> 01:32:37.279
<v Speaker 2>we're I don't know if this is going to be

1594
01:32:37.279 --> 01:32:40.880
<v Speaker 2>the best analogy or whatever. But if we're existing enough

1595
01:32:41.319 --> 01:32:43.720
<v Speaker 2>to sit here and have this conversation with each other,

1596
01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:48.399
<v Speaker 2>because we're three intelligences that are communing, I if this

1597
01:32:48.479 --> 01:32:51.880
<v Speaker 2>can happen. What if there's something else out there and

1598
01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:57.640
<v Speaker 2>that's not human, that's also a manifestation of this intelligence

1599
01:32:57.680 --> 01:33:02.439
<v Speaker 2>that we share. It's just not in a physical body so.

1600
01:33:02.840 --> 01:33:09.279
<v Speaker 1>We can see it. Who knows, Lisa, what is it?

1601
01:33:10.319 --> 01:33:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Everything is possible, that's all. And if you want to

1602
01:33:15.560 --> 01:33:16.199
<v Speaker 3>know more.

1603
01:33:16.119 --> 01:33:19.039
<v Speaker 4>You should check out the Occult Research Institute dot org

1604
01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:23.279
<v Speaker 4>where we have a lot of contributors that that basically

1605
01:33:23.359 --> 01:33:26.279
<v Speaker 4>donate their time to talk about all things possible.

1606
01:33:27.119 --> 01:33:31.880
<v Speaker 1>And that's pretty much all I want to say.

1607
01:33:32.880 --> 01:33:34.640
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I'll take you up on that offer.

1608
01:33:34.880 --> 01:33:36.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, we could talk about it afterwards, but yeah,

1609
01:33:36.800 --> 01:33:38.680
<v Speaker 2>if you if you want to have me back on

1610
01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:41.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, I noticed that we kept kind of coming

1611
01:33:41.159 --> 01:33:45.119
<v Speaker 2>back to Nazis and the Occult and that's I mean,

1612
01:33:45.159 --> 01:33:49.279
<v Speaker 2>I've got I've got a whole lot on that.

1613
01:33:50.720 --> 01:33:53.039
<v Speaker 4>I'd be joining us for a lot of the list

1614
01:33:53.119 --> 01:33:57.119
<v Speaker 4>of ideas that we have yet to dive into because

1615
01:33:57.119 --> 01:34:01.399
<v Speaker 4>of me, and that the keeps growing of ideas of

1616
01:34:01.399 --> 01:34:05.399
<v Speaker 4>like topics to dig into, and so yeah, that would

1617
01:34:05.399 --> 01:34:06.680
<v Speaker 4>probably be great.

1618
01:34:06.520 --> 01:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>If you go a lot the Nazi work and then

1619
01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>we want to work.

1620
01:34:08.680 --> 01:34:10.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you have a lot, you may be able

1621
01:34:10.279 --> 01:34:12.960
<v Speaker 4>to tie in or weave something that we haven't seen before.

1622
01:34:13.920 --> 01:34:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah cool, let me know, Yeah for sure, but uh,

1623
01:34:16.680 --> 01:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>real quick, let everybody know where they can find your

1624
01:34:18.640 --> 01:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>amazing work. Sure please?

1625
01:34:20.359 --> 01:34:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Tim Constantine, my podcast is Sixth Sensory Podcast. I'm

1626
01:34:26.039 --> 01:34:31.520
<v Speaker 2>on Spotify, Apple, YouTube, and Patreon, and I have an Instagram,

1627
01:34:31.560 --> 01:34:33.720
<v Speaker 2>so come check me out. I put out reels. There's

1628
01:34:33.760 --> 01:34:36.439
<v Speaker 2>a lot of Nazi occult reels that I've put out recently,

1629
01:34:36.520 --> 01:34:39.479
<v Speaker 2>So if that interests you, check out my Instagram, but

1630
01:34:39.640 --> 01:34:42.920
<v Speaker 2>mainly check out my show Sixth Sensory Podcasts.

1631
01:34:43.199 --> 01:34:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely. If you want to check out like little

1632
01:34:44.680 --> 01:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>snippets of his podcasts and stuff like that, definitely go

1633
01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:48.760
<v Speaker 1>to his instagram. He's got a lot of that notice.

1634
01:34:49.079 --> 01:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>So thank you very much again, Tim, that was really

1635
01:34:52.600 --> 01:34:55.760
<v Speaker 1>awesome conversation. That was really interesting stuff. It really made

1636
01:34:55.800 --> 01:34:59.920
<v Speaker 1>me think actually about this issutor stuff. And uh yeah,

1637
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:01.760
<v Speaker 1>would love to get you back on man, So we'll

1638
01:35:01.800 --> 01:35:05.279
<v Speaker 1>definitely make that happen. Lisa thank you again for jumping on.

1639
01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I had a great time and I always always appreciate

1640
01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:11.439
<v Speaker 1>your perspective and what you have to add. Thank you,

1641
01:35:12.159 --> 01:35:14.159
<v Speaker 1>and that is the end of another recult Rejects and

1642
01:35:14.279 --> 01:35:17.119
<v Speaker 1>until the next one, everybody be well later