Speaker 1: Get ready all right once again on a Wednesday, April thirty,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Allegedly, according to that thing we call a calendar, this
Speaker 2: Theocelli effect. You listening to it wherever the hell and
Speaker 2: whenever the hell you're listening to it. Welcome to it
Speaker 2: anyway tonight. What I wanted to get into in this
Speaker 2: separated podcast is something completely different, as they used to
Speaker 2: say in the Land of Monty Python. A couple of things. One.
Speaker 2: I got into this weird situation because I got an
Speaker 2: email from Maria Heller and she had apparently decided to
Speaker 2: have a conversation with deep Seek. People are doing this
Speaker 2: a lot lately, by the way, where they're having these
Speaker 2: discussions let's call them with the different AI programs, right,
Speaker 2: you know, let's see what happen, weppens when we try
Speaker 2: and get you some sort of information. You know, I
Speaker 2: can I get an article, Can I get some new
Speaker 2: something about a topic I've discussed or studied in the past,
Speaker 2: Or how about if I get a summation out of
Speaker 2: the AI jungle about something that I want information on. Well,
Speaker 2: Maria decided that she would ask deep Seek, which is
Speaker 2: the Chinese open AI which you know was built for
Speaker 2: like fractions of pennies on the dollar compared to the
Speaker 2: ai that we've done in America about how her work
Speaker 2: would be remembered when she was gone. And I found
Speaker 2: that fascinating. And I'll tell you what. I'll even give
Speaker 2: you a little bit of it if you want. Right here,
Speaker 2: and now let's see, I think I have it loaded
Speaker 2: up here. Yeah. And the funny thing is she sent
Speaker 2: it out to her listeners and I looked at it
Speaker 2: and I responded to it. But first let me read
Speaker 2: from it what it says here? Right, How is it
Speaker 2: Maria Heller would be remembered after she's gone? Right? Okay? Yeah,
Speaker 2: like your thoughts on how? Okay? Here we go. Maria
Speaker 2: Heller is a pioneering independent media host, podcasting since two thousand,
Speaker 2: making her show one of the longest running on the Internet.
Speaker 2: Known for her unfiltered Brooklyn style commentary, she covers politics, spirituality,
Speaker 2: social justice, and alternative perspectives, often key aspects of oh wait,
Speaker 2: critiquing excuse me, critiquing mainstream narratives, and powerful figures like
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Key aspects of Maria Heller's work include long
Speaker 2: running podcast and independent media hosts. The Maria Heller Show,
Speaker 2: producing four to five episodes weekly with over eight hundred
Speaker 2: hours of archived content. Focuses on in depth interviews with authors, activists,
Speaker 2: and researchers, allowing guests to speak freely without corporate censorship.
Speaker 2: Known for her sharp critiques of government, intelligence, agencies and
Speaker 2: corporate media, controversial and eclectic topics. Discusses conspiracy theories eg.
Speaker 2: FBI's targeting of Tupac shakor CIA operations, explorers spiritually spirituality,
Speaker 2: excuse me, reiki, intuition and holistic healing, advocates for animal rights, vegetarianism,
Speaker 2: and progressive causes. Co hosts shows and collaborations. Recently co
Speaker 2: hosted Hell in High Water with Chuckocelli, discussing protests, geopolitics,
Speaker 2: and media blackouts. Listeners supported model. Her work is entirely
Speaker 2: funded by subscribers, rejecting corporate sponsorships to mainstream editorial, independence,
Speaker 2: legacy and alternative media. Often compared to figures like Alex
Speaker 2: Jones or James Corbett, but with a more spiritual and
Speaker 2: grassroots focus. Praised for her fearless interviewing style and dedication
Speaker 2: to uncovering suppressed truths. Okay, all of that is how
Speaker 2: deep Seek described Maria Heller. So I wrote back to
Speaker 2: Maria and I said, you know what, I'd be afraid
Speaker 2: they ask what the hell deep Seek would think of
Speaker 2: me being remembered, because I don't think I'll be remembered.
Speaker 2: I think I will disappear into the memory hole. And
Speaker 2: she wrote back to me something about it. We wrote
Speaker 2: back and forth a little bit and later on, just
Speaker 2: like all these other and there's entire YouTube channels now
Speaker 2: devoted to I just decided to have this conversation with
Speaker 2: chat GPT because that's the most popular one. But yeah,
Speaker 2: but people are doing this now. This is like the
Speaker 2: new thing. Like I said, let's have a conversation with
Speaker 2: Jack the chat GPT. John Gold has conversations with chat
Speaker 2: gpt about nine to eleven all the time. Anyway, I
Speaker 2: finally decided what the hell and asked, And I'm gonna
Speaker 2: put the whole text of it in the show notes
Speaker 2: for this podcast and let you guys read it for
Speaker 2: yourselves what I asked about how I'd be remembered. And
Speaker 2: I'm not going to read the whole thing. I'll just
Speaker 2: give you a couple of highlights, right chuck Ocelly, the host,
Speaker 2: of the Ocelli effect has built a niche but dedicated
Speaker 2: following through his long form interviews, deep dives into conspiracy theories, geopolitics,
Speaker 2: and counter cultural topics. If he were to pass away tomorrow.
Speaker 2: By the way pause here, I asked, if Chuck Ochelly
Speaker 2: dies tomorrow, how will his work and he be remembered
Speaker 2: anyway back to it? If he were to pass away tomorrow,
Speaker 2: his legacy would likely be remembered in a few key ways.
Speaker 2: As a Maverick independent researcher interviewer, o'kelly's work exists outside
Speaker 2: mainstream media, appealing to those skeptical of conventional narratives. He
Speaker 2: would be remembered for in depth conversations, his willingness to
Speaker 2: engage with controversial figures and explore fringe theories in detail,
Speaker 2: eclectic topics excuse me covering everything from jfk assassination theories,
Speaker 2: two deep state conspiracies, UFOs, and alternative history platform for
Speaker 2: outsider voices, giving a microphone to researchers, journalists, and thinkers
Speaker 2: often excluded from traditional outlets. As part of the alternative
Speaker 2: media landscape, his show contributed to the broader quote truth
Speaker 2: seeking end quote community alongside figures like Alex Jones, James Corbett,
Speaker 2: and Russ Baker. While not as widely known, his audience
Speaker 2: would likely memorialize him as an underappreciated investigator who asked
Speaker 2: tough questions. Anyway, they have a bunch of things about
Speaker 2: you know, possibilities, and the only memorial that would be
Speaker 2: held would be by you guys who listened to this show. Anyway.
Speaker 2: I thought that was fascinating, and especially because I've been
Speaker 2: playing with some of these you know, different AI models
Speaker 2: and stuff lately, and weird things are happening to me
Speaker 2: on the internet in general. And I'll tell you what
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do. I'm going to come back and I've
Speaker 2: got a strange story to tell you after I take
Speaker 2: a little break here about one of the things that
Speaker 2: happened to me recently. I've had strange communications from strange people,
Speaker 2: and I keep many of these things to myself. In fact,
Speaker 2: that's been one of my key elements when I learned
Speaker 2: certain things ahead of time, and recently, by the way
Speaker 2: I even learned. And I meant to throw this in
Speaker 2: on the last podcast, so the show notes might be
Speaker 2: for in the last podcast. But the thing is this,
Speaker 2: if I forget to put it here. That whole story
Speaker 2: I told you about, you know, Lacy, New Jersey, and
Speaker 2: you know it's called Fork and River, and that massive
Speaker 2: fire that occurred recently. Guess what the investigative reporters it
Speaker 2: took them like three days to track down what I
Speaker 2: already knew regarding the bonfires and all this other stuff,
Speaker 2: and how this kid's a mud truck kid. And yeah,
Speaker 2: just letting you know, if you follow up on that story,
Speaker 2: you'll find that I told you about it before the
Speaker 2: investigative journalists on the ground even got it. And I'm
Speaker 2: down here in Georgia. I just know the area and
Speaker 2: I know exactly what happened. Anyway, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: cases where, believe it or not, I've traveled to, lived in,
Speaker 2: or known the people involved. And I keep to myself
Speaker 2: some of the connections I've had in the past because
Speaker 2: I don't have them anymore. I'm virtually disconnected everybody except
Speaker 2: those of you who listen to this show. You're my
Speaker 2: only connection to the outside world, basically outside of missus
Speaker 2: Owen Frankie. But anyway, a weird thing did happen to
Speaker 2: me this week that I'm going to report to you,
Speaker 2: guys and see what happens. And I've also got one
Speaker 2: news story to read from just one. But this is
Speaker 2: not a news show. This is an exploration of the
Speaker 2: strange and fascinating interactions of the online community that you
Speaker 2: guys might not be having because you're not me and
Speaker 2: you don't put yourself out there to be a target
Speaker 2: or to be screwed with and everything else. And I'm
Speaker 2: not going to talk about death threats tonight. I've got
Speaker 2: a whole series I want to do on my death
Speaker 2: threats and various other you know, when I pissed people
Speaker 2: off and aggravated them and I'm not even sure how,
Speaker 2: and the various things they've threatened to do to me
Speaker 2: and all that. But on your behalf, because I want
Speaker 2: to present to you something unique, and I want to
Speaker 2: bring more truth to you than others, and I want
Speaker 2: to bring to you real world perspectives, like no matter
Speaker 2: how much they argue about are we in a recession
Speaker 2: or rena or it's just good for the business, all of that,
Speaker 2: You know, what I boil it down to the reality
Speaker 2: is your world actually changing or do you just feel
Speaker 2: better or worse about it? And therefore you think your
Speaker 2: world is changing around you. These are valid questions and
Speaker 2: we've always got to keep them in check. And in
Speaker 2: the next segment, you and I are going to explore
Speaker 2: something together and see if I've entered the twilight zone
Speaker 2: yet another unreal interaction, or have I caught a strange break.
Speaker 2: Perhaps I'm just the target of another joke, not like
Speaker 2: the Sanders kid who got told he was drafted and
Speaker 2: then wasn't drafted. And you know, people are paying hundreds
Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars worth of fines later on or
Speaker 2: anything people have screwed with me generally don't pay for
Speaker 2: it if it's just internet stuff. In the old days,
Speaker 2: when you had to deal with me in person and
Speaker 2: I was a much less grounded individual emotionally and psychologically,
Speaker 2: people didn't dare screw with me like they do now.
Speaker 2: And if they knew me better, and God help them,
Speaker 2: if I ever had the resources to deal with them properly,
Speaker 2: they wouldn't do it now either. But let's see what
Speaker 2: you guys think about the next segment and the weirdness
Speaker 2: that's going on. And again, one more news story that
Speaker 2: is related to the strangeness, and it's not Internet hookers
Speaker 2: on Skype this time, and it's not the weird pornography
Speaker 2: feed and live girls that want to, you know, get
Speaker 2: in touch with you on Twitter x or the Facebook
Speaker 2: hookers that come and go and bounce around. And usually
Speaker 2: that's a guy using fake pictures. And I guess it's
Speaker 2: not that hard to get pictures of some girl's feet,
Speaker 2: And when you know, you can run a whole foot
Speaker 2: fetish website and not really have to work all that
Speaker 2: hard for your money. I don't object to any of it,
Speaker 2: but I gotta tell you it's a strange, disconnected landscape.
Speaker 2: And perhaps I'm being tapped on again by the underbelly
Speaker 2: stick around and let's see if the o'celly effect is
Speaker 2: something that's affecting me. How about that one for.
Speaker 3: A Wednesday or Woden's Day, as you might say.
Speaker 4: Revel legs through calm sage.
Speaker 5: Oh Shell.
Speaker 6: The War State by Michael Swanson explains the great national
Speaker 6: transformation that took place and put the Kennedy presidency in
Speaker 6: the context of the Times and reveals never before published
Speaker 6: information about the Cuban missile crisis. President Kennedy would not
Speaker 6: have been assassinated if he had been president two hundred
Speaker 6: years ago. His assassination took place in the context of
Speaker 6: the Cold War and the rise of the national security state.
Speaker 6: Before World War II, the United States was a continental republic.
Speaker 6: In the decade that followed, it became an imperial superpower.
Speaker 6: Generals such as Curtis LeMay not only wanted to invade Cuba,
Speaker 6: but knew that there were short range missiles on the
Speaker 6: island aren't with nuclear warheads that they could not destroyed
Speaker 6: because they were on mobile launchers. Their invasion could have
Speaker 6: led to a Third World War, and they wanted to
Speaker 6: go to war anyway. The War State by Michael Swanson
Speaker 6: reveals why, and we'll show you what President Kennedy was
Speaker 6: up against. For more information, the Warstate dot com.
Speaker 2: Quick live spot from your humble host. Two things I
Speaker 2: want to remind you about. I'm still accepting a written
Speaker 2: work for The o'chelly Effect front page weekly Reader, which
Speaker 2: is launched now finally. I know I delayed it by
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, but I was waiting on my
Speaker 2: backlog of articles to build up. I only have a handful.
Speaker 2: I still need unique voices. If you've got any type
Speaker 2: of prose article, academic or otherwise. If you've got a demonstration,
Speaker 2: you want an illustration, you want an exhortation or an
Speaker 2: exhibition that you think won't get printed or seen anywhere
Speaker 2: else because it's rarefied information that might rub people the
Speaker 2: wrong way. Bring it to me. There are no rules
Speaker 2: except we got to stick to You know, don't make
Speaker 2: death threats or fling around accusations without proof about people.
Speaker 2: You know, stuff that's libelous or legally actionable. Don't do that.
Speaker 2: But send me your original work, poems, songs like I said,
Speaker 2: illustrations that are put in order, like a slideshow, a
Speaker 2: PowerPoint if you will. That could be done on the
Speaker 2: website and it'll be on the front page at o'chelly
Speaker 2: dot com. All you gotta do is send it to
Speaker 2: info at o'chelly dot com. That's the email address where
Speaker 2: I'm collecting all that stuff, and I'm willing to hear
Speaker 2: from the most well known author to the guy who's
Speaker 2: never done it before. You don't feel like blogging, you
Speaker 2: don't want to go through the substack jungle. Bring it
Speaker 2: to me info at o'chelly dot com. I'll be more
Speaker 2: than happy to accept your written work and present it
Speaker 2: to my little world of listeners who are definitely in
Speaker 2: search of new and exciting information. Info at o'celly dot com.
Speaker 2: Send it there and be on the o'celly effect front
Speaker 2: page Weekly Reader. Oh ahead, Carlin.
Speaker 6: About the JFA assassination.
Speaker 2: Right, well, what do you want to know? Dy Baker's
Speaker 2: wild claim Oswal girlfriends he knew? Ruby and Arry answer weapons? Really,
Speaker 2: I imagine I could claim I have four wheels. It doesn't
Speaker 2: make me a wagon, but okay, the.
Speaker 7: Building and I'm trying to prevent the murder of John Kennedy.
Speaker 2: Come on now has a.
Speaker 6: Real effort on the DAFA assassination.
Speaker 2: Go to Amazon dot com enter Judith Baker in her
Speaker 2: own words. You'll get the results for a digital copy
Speaker 2: of a book where Walt Brown utilizes her own words
Speaker 2: and the known evidence in the case to get at well,
Speaker 2: a different perspective. Let's say you can get Judith Barry
Speaker 2: Baker in her own words from the author himself, signed
Speaker 2: if you request it by contacting Kacker Brown at kias
Speaker 2: jfk at aol dot com. It's a fun book and
Speaker 2: it actually dissects the many, many fantastic claims Judith Barry
Speaker 2: Baker in her own.
Speaker 8: Words The War State by Michael Swanson explains the great
Speaker 8: national transformation that took place and put the Kennedy presidency
Speaker 8: in the context of the times, and reveals never before
Speaker 8: published information about the Cuban missile crisis.
Speaker 6: President Kennedy would not have been assassinated if he had
Speaker 6: been president two hundred years ago. His assassination took place
Speaker 6: in the context of the Cold War and the rise
Speaker 6: of the national security state. Before World War II, the
Speaker 6: United States was a continental republic. In the decade that followed,
Speaker 6: it became an imperial superpower. Generals such as Curtis LeMay
Speaker 6: not only wanted to invade Cuba, but knew that there
Speaker 6: were short range missiles on the island arn't with nuclear
Speaker 6: warheads that they could not destroy because they were on
Speaker 6: mobile launchers. Their invasion could have led to a Third
Speaker 6: World War, and they wanted to go to war anyway.
Speaker 6: The War State by Michael Swanson reveals why, and we'll
Speaker 6: show you what President Kennedy was up against. For more information,
Speaker 6: The War State dot Com revel.
Speaker 4: Through Calm Sage. Here Hill, oh, Selly, that James.
Speaker 2: R.
Speaker 7: In all the world.
Speaker 5: Your yeah, m hm.
Speaker 4: M hm.
Speaker 8: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 6: Mm hmmmm.
Speaker 2: Nuclear holocaust.
Speaker 4: You know what uranium is, right, thing called nuclear weapons
Speaker 4: and other things like lots of revel through conversage.
Speaker 7: Here is.
Speaker 8: Shell you.
Speaker 4: Oh silly fast.
Speaker 2: Show, right Jay? So you are the.
Speaker 1: Get ready for.
Speaker 7: So?
Speaker 2: Segment number two here of this particular podcast han A
Speaker 2: Wolden's Day, and I wanted to get a quick check
Speaker 2: in with guess who uh nature Boy's evil twin who
Speaker 2: I am trying to book to see if I can
Speaker 2: get Nature Boy and his evil twin on the same
Speaker 2: show at the same time. Anyway, I haven't listened to
Speaker 2: this clip in advance, but here it goes.
Speaker 7: The artificial ingredients in tone grifting cult leader had a
Speaker 7: rally in Michigan last night. I'd like to read you
Speaker 7: some of what he said verbatim. Do you have the
Speaker 7: stomach for it? Are you ready?
Speaker 2: He likes that ding noise with the verbatim, doesn't he verbatim?
Speaker 4: Ding?
Speaker 2: I love these video messages anyway, but Nature Boy's voice
Speaker 2: is undeniable. Here these guys and they look similar, they
Speaker 2: really do. Anyway, back to him, I haven't heard this,
Speaker 2: so you're hearing the first time with me.
Speaker 7: Here we go, bear with me. I will here's my
Speaker 7: friend Blacks for Trump. I like that guy.
Speaker 5: He follows me, he follows me. We love you. Your whole
Speaker 5: group has been so supportive over the years. I want
Speaker 5: to thank you everyone. I pay you a fortune.
Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't even know who the hell
Speaker 7: he is. I just like him. Thank you very much.
Speaker 7: Thank all the fellas. Thank them all.
Speaker 2: Man. That is funny, though. He's bringing up something that
Speaker 2: I think is always funny at the Trump rallies when
Speaker 2: he's like, where's my African American? I love these guys.
Speaker 2: They're so great. I'm so happy you showed up. See
Speaker 2: blacks love me. The blacks, they love me. It's beautiful.
Speaker 2: It's absolutely perfect. Like that phone call. The Blacks love me.
Speaker 2: Everybody loves Trump except you dishonest, disgusting, sick people in
Speaker 2: the media, even though I keep going for interviews all
Speaker 2: the time and I get the best treatment.
Speaker 7: We're here tonight in the heartland of our nation to
Speaker 7: celebrate the most successful first one hundred days of any
Speaker 7: administration in the history of our country. And that's according
Speaker 7: to many many people. This is the best they say
Speaker 7: one hundred days start of any president in history. And
Speaker 7: everyone is saying it.
Speaker 2: That cracks me up because that's been the mainstream talking
Speaker 2: point for the entire day today. And I think he
Speaker 2: put this out like last night or the night before
Speaker 2: he recorded this, but yeah, this has been all day long.
Speaker 2: He keeps saying this. This is the best hundred days.
Speaker 2: I am so successful. Everything is going so well. The
Speaker 2: country's happy, we're perfect, we're winning the trade war. We
Speaker 2: haven't made any deals yet, but they're all begging, please, sir,
Speaker 2: please sir. We need to make a deal, sir. They're
Speaker 2: all coming except I'm not making a deal with that
Speaker 2: Abrego Garcia guy. It's not photoshopped. You say it's photoshopped.
Speaker 2: Why would you say that, You're very dishonest mainstream media people.
Speaker 2: It's MS thirteen on his knuckles. That's it. Case closed. Anyway,
Speaker 2: back to Nature Boy's evil twin.
Speaker 7: We've just gotten started. You haven't seen anything yet. It's
Speaker 7: all just kicking in and week by week, we're ending
Speaker 7: illegal immigration. We're taking back our jobs and protecting our
Speaker 7: great American auto workers and all of our workers. Frankly,
Speaker 7: we're protecting all of our workers. We're restoring the rule
Speaker 7: of law, which was sort of out of the window
Speaker 7: with this crazy guy. We had. How the hell did
Speaker 7: that guy ever become president? Could somebody explain to me
Speaker 7: how the hell did that happen? A lot of auto
Speaker 7: jobs coming. Watch what's happening. The companies are coming in
Speaker 7: by the tens. You've got to see what's happening. They
Speaker 7: all want to come back to Michigan and build cars again.
Speaker 7: You know why, because of our tax and tariff policy.
Speaker 7: They're coming in from all over the world. They're opening
Speaker 7: up plants, and they're talking to us all day and
Speaker 7: all night.
Speaker 2: Well, it's gonna be difficult if they're getting materials from
Speaker 2: anywhere except maybe Ukraine with that new deal that they're
Speaker 2: forcing them to sign. But if you got to get
Speaker 2: steel or you know, rocks or minerals or any elements
Speaker 2: from other countries, you know you're gonna be paying a
Speaker 2: heavy tariff and you're gonna have to pass along that cost.
Speaker 2: But pay no attention to that. Anyway, I thought we
Speaker 2: should hear from his evil twin, who's obsessed with the
Speaker 2: anti Trump thing. I think it's funny the two of
Speaker 2: them will clash. It'll be really interesting. The dance, I
Speaker 2: think would be so I could just put them both
Speaker 2: on Mike and lean back and shut off mine and
Speaker 2: listen for about an hour. I think it'll be interesting radio.
Speaker 2: Hopefully I can get that done. But here's the weird
Speaker 2: story and the main story for tonight. Forget about Trump
Speaker 2: and the news and all that, except I got one
Speaker 2: final news story that I found the interest. And this
Speaker 2: is from the Associated Press, and again I'll uh, what
Speaker 2: in the hell is going on here? Whoops? Okay, something
Speaker 2: happened strangely here and I'm gonna have to uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to get my article. Uh, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna put it in the live chatroom at ochelli dot com,
Speaker 2: so you guys can you know, you guys can check
Speaker 2: it out. But anyway, Ocelli dot com, if you go
Speaker 2: in the live chatroom, you can always roll it back.
Speaker 2: And I just put the article that I'm about to
Speaker 2: read from in the chat room. So here we go.
Speaker 2: The home of Elon Musk's SpaceX could become an official
Speaker 2: Texas city called star Base. Kid you not? Okay? This
Speaker 2: is by Jim Jim excuse me, Virtuno all right, which
Speaker 2: was apparently updated on April thirtieth, and that's today, of course,
Speaker 2: at about four to twenty six pm Austin, Texas ap
Speaker 2: Elon Musk has for years made Texas a business home
Speaker 2: and playground, launching rockets, building cars, and dreaming about creating
Speaker 2: a utopian enclave for his workers on the rural outskirts
Speaker 2: of the state capitol. Now, a new Musk project is
Speaker 2: on the brink of victory an election Saturday to officially
Speaker 2: turn a small patch of coastal South Texas home to
Speaker 2: his rocket company SpaceX, into a city known as Star Base.
Speaker 2: If Musk prevails, which appears likely since the small number
Speaker 2: of residents eligible to vote include his employees, it will
Speaker 2: be a victory for the megabillionaire who's I thought he's
Speaker 2: a trillionaire. Okay, I'm pulling away from the article. Sorry,
Speaker 2: mega billionaire whose popularity has waned since he became the
Speaker 2: chainsaw wielding public face of President Donald Trump's federal job
Speaker 2: and spending cuts and sunk more than twenty million into
Speaker 2: a failed effort to Wisconsin Supreme Court elections. Profits at
Speaker 2: his Tesla car company have plummeted. Okay, there's all this stuff.
Speaker 2: As of Tuesday, nearly two hundred of two hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty three eligible voters had already cast an early ballot.
Speaker 2: According to county election records, the list of names so
Speaker 2: far does not include Musk, who voted in the county
Speaker 2: in the November elections. The cosmic dateline sounds like a
Speaker 2: billionaire's vanity project in an area where the man and
Speaker 2: his galactic dreams already enjoy broad support from residents and
Speaker 2: state and local officials. But they're creeping concerns that the
Speaker 2: city vote and companion efforts in the state legislature will
Speaker 2: give Musk in his company town too much control over
Speaker 2: access to a popular swimming and camping area known for
Speaker 2: generations as the poor People's Beach. All right, this is
Speaker 2: one of those you know, local struggle versus the rich
Speaker 2: man coming in and doing a thing and Star base.
Speaker 2: Why not Texas is its own independent place, And what
Speaker 2: the hell? If Musk wants to plan his flag there,
Speaker 2: why not let him plant his own city there. He's
Speaker 2: got the money to do it, let him do it.
Speaker 2: What the hell? And he's gonna buy the boats or
Speaker 2: have his employee's vote the way he wants, I'm sure. Anyway,
Speaker 2: why do I bring up Elon Musk and this interesting
Speaker 2: story that again just came out today and it is
Speaker 2: of interest and you can read it again from the
Speaker 2: link at o'chelly dot com. But here's the strange thing.
Speaker 2: Through an account not known on X to be Elon Musk,
Speaker 2: I was contacted and told that I was now privileged
Speaker 2: to have been chosen to interact with Elon Musk and
Speaker 2: he wanted to talk to me. Now, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to give you the full contents of the discussion because
Speaker 2: I'm skeptical at this point because I don't think Elon
Speaker 2: Musk knows who I am, cares about me, or anything
Speaker 2: like that. But Elon Musk said it's him, and I said, look,
Speaker 2: I doubt it's you, and it's probably somebody playing a
Speaker 2: game with me. But I'm just an independent media guy
Speaker 2: and this and that, and I live in Making, Georgia,
Speaker 2: and you know, I live in a poor town. I'm
Speaker 2: not generally your kind of people. So we went back
Speaker 2: and forth a few times, and then he said that
Speaker 2: he doesn't have time for typing these chats and whatnot,
Speaker 2: and he'd rather talk to me on something else. So
Speaker 2: I went and I signed up for a signal chat,
Speaker 2: which is one of the things that he asked if
Speaker 2: I had I signed up work created an account But
Speaker 2: the weird thing about this is, Okay, yeah, Chuck, you're
Speaker 2: being jerked around by a guy who says he's Elon Musk, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, a couple of weeks ago, I had
Speaker 2: somebody approach me asking me if I wanted to join
Speaker 2: the Illuminati as well. But then he sent me a
Speaker 2: voice message too, And it was during the back and
Speaker 2: forth when I said, you know, come on, man, you
Speaker 2: can't really be Elon must talking to me. This is
Speaker 2: the voice message I got.
Speaker 7: Hey, it's me Elon.
Speaker 9: I'm not hit to convince you on anything because I
Speaker 9: got other valuable things to do with my time. The
Speaker 9: thing that's worth doing is trying to improve our understanding
Speaker 9: of world and gain a.
Speaker 7: Better appreciation of that.
Speaker 9: Because I gave you the privilege to chat with me.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I got. Now, I don't know, and
Speaker 2: I feel rather doubtful that Elon Musk would take the
Speaker 2: time to talk to me. Trillionaires don't have time for
Speaker 2: people like me. But if he does, I don't even
Speaker 2: know where to begin having a conversation with the guy.
Speaker 2: I mean what I'm going to get into an argument
Speaker 2: with him about Doze and how he doesn't know how
Speaker 2: government works and he shouldn't be doing that. Nah, that's
Speaker 2: not going to work well. I mean, what should I
Speaker 2: say to Elon Musk? How about this? Guys, you write
Speaker 2: to me at BLINDJFK Researcher at gmail dot com. Okay,
Speaker 2: and you tell me what I should try to talk
Speaker 2: to Elon Musk about, because the guy and I've heard
Speaker 2: of this kind of stuff happening before with certain other figures,
Speaker 2: And quite honestly, I've been contacted by an extremely famous
Speaker 2: figure who was listening to the show for a while
Speaker 2: and didn't want their name known or being connected to me,
Speaker 2: but wanted to talk to me a little. And I
Speaker 2: held that conversation in complete confidence because that was part
Speaker 2: of what they asked me to do. And I really
Speaker 2: wish that this person was still listening to me. I
Speaker 2: really wish he was, because if he was. Hell, I
Speaker 2: never asked him for any money, even though he's got plenty.
Speaker 2: I didn't ask him for anything except you know, we
Speaker 2: had a kind of a friendship. I thought then he
Speaker 2: had some issues and he didn't have time for me anymore.
Speaker 2: And I think he's gone away. He's not listening to
Speaker 2: the show anymore. But for a while he was. It
Speaker 2: wouldn't be the first time a well known person. It
Speaker 2: would be the richest person to ever contact me. But
Speaker 2: you know, strange thing, and this guy, with a snap
Speaker 2: of his fingers or dropping the bucket proverbially one way
Speaker 2: or another, could change my life and the lives of
Speaker 2: a whole lot of you guys listening to this show
Speaker 2: and any of the friends I've ever had, in an
Speaker 2: instant if he wanted to. If this is actually the guy, now,
Speaker 2: this could be an intricate game and I could just
Speaker 2: be being gamed and I would hate that, but maybe
Speaker 2: that's funny to somebody, and maybe me getting catfished this
Speaker 2: way is you know, more fun for somebody to do.
Speaker 2: Because I never accept any of these, you know, overtures
Speaker 2: from the various internet hookers and you know women who
Speaker 2: tried to come on to me. I really appreciate you,
Speaker 2: and I think I'm in love with you already, even
Speaker 2: though you know, and they're probably using a stock photo
Speaker 2: or a picture of their sister or something, and it's
Speaker 2: a dude, maybe screwing with me whatever. I don't accept
Speaker 2: any of those contact requests, but I accept any offers
Speaker 2: of friendship normally, and a guy like this, just like
Speaker 2: the other famous person I had been speaking to, would
Speaker 2: use an account that wouldn't seem like it's theirs, because
Speaker 2: any of their public front facing stuff is going to
Speaker 2: be inundated with nonsense and constantly full and if they
Speaker 2: wanted to have a legitimate interaction with somebody, they would
Speaker 2: have to do it this way. So am I talking
Speaker 2: to elon Musk or not? I don't know, but I
Speaker 2: guess I'm gonna have to check out my Signal app
Speaker 2: lined out. I gave him my contact and I'm also
Speaker 2: going to publish it here with the show notes and
Speaker 2: give you guys my contact if you want to contact
Speaker 2: me on Signal. And by the way, that is the
Speaker 2: same app that Hegseth just got in trouble for right
Speaker 2: you know, using it. It's not a very well secured app,
Speaker 2: but it is very popular with certain types of people,
Speaker 2: and I would not be shocked if Musk decided to
Speaker 2: use that instead of even his own X. But if
Speaker 2: I owned X, I would have probably one hundred X
Speaker 2: profiles to do different things, you know, and that could
Speaker 2: be as well. This guy could have, you know, ten
Speaker 2: different things. But then again, this could just be some
Speaker 2: jerk entertaining himself because he's got nothing better to do,
Speaker 2: and he's just playing with me. I don't know. Let
Speaker 2: me know if you've ever been contacted by Elon Musk,
Speaker 2: how about that. You know. I would like to talk
Speaker 2: to him, I really would. I would like to impress
Speaker 2: upon him some things that I don't think he's aware of.
Speaker 2: And since he does have a particular amount of power financially, politically, etc.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see him wield it in a better way.
Speaker 2: And I would love to just be able to talk
Speaker 2: to somebody who can do some of the things he does.
Speaker 2: Not that I've never spoken to somebody of high intelligence
Speaker 2: I have, but somebody who wields this kind of power
Speaker 2: one way or another in the public's mind, in the
Speaker 2: pop culture, in the business world, et cetera, and now
Speaker 2: in the White House directly, you know, pretty much running
Speaker 2: a part of the government without ever having to be elected.
Speaker 2: And it didn't even cost him that much to buy
Speaker 2: his way in, quite frankly, and he's not having to
Speaker 2: bend over backwards to kiss Trump's ass, like you know
Speaker 2: Zuckerberg over there, who's trying to make up will please
Speaker 2: mister Trump. Bubby A good boy. Now here's a couple
Speaker 2: million dollars. Are you happy now, mister Trump, I've unsuspended
Speaker 2: all of your accounts and I don't care what you
Speaker 2: say anymore. You can literally shoot somebody in the face
Speaker 2: on my fifth avenue. Zuckerberg, of course, he's not having
Speaker 2: to do that. Interesting guy. So I'm I would love
Speaker 2: it to be true that I'm speaking with Elon Musk,
Speaker 2: but I guess we'll have to see if true. Guaranteed
Speaker 2: my life and the lives of people who listen to
Speaker 2: the show are going to change that much. I can
Speaker 2: assure you if I can get in good with the
Speaker 2: guy and I can convince him to do a few things,
Speaker 2: we will have change in a bunch of people's lives
Speaker 2: and the opportunity to participate in some things to make
Speaker 2: anything better on this planet. I'm happy for it now.
Speaker 2: Is he the guy who's gonna do it? I got
Speaker 2: my opinions, and is he the real guy? I've got
Speaker 2: my opinions, but I don't know. I just don't know anyway.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a common thing. There's one hundred guys out
Speaker 2: there who have been approached by Elon Musk, and it's
Speaker 2: a big joke, and I just don't know the punchline yet,
Speaker 2: so I'm revealing it to you guys this time. Now.
Speaker 2: Last time, I was able to verify that I was
Speaker 2: speaking to the very famous person directly in a phone conversation.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a deep fake, none of that. This could
Speaker 2: all be an orchestrated thing. And I don't even know
Speaker 2: what the motive would be except to entertain themselves. And
Speaker 2: it's pretty elaborate way to entertain yourself, So I don't know. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I figured i'd leave you with that, and that is
Speaker 2: a unique thing, and I do see in the chat
Speaker 2: room right now. Yeah, well, okay, you're asking, okay, gave
Speaker 2: you the privilege? That's that's a reference literally to what
Speaker 2: he typed to me about how he likes to give
Speaker 2: a privilege to some fans because he's you know, on
Speaker 2: high and just the privilege to some common people to
Speaker 2: actually be able to interact with him and chat a bit.
Speaker 2: That was a text. I didn't reveal all the texts,
Speaker 2: but that's what he's referring to there in that piece.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'll tell him to call in on Friday.
Speaker 2: I got I can't get you know, good friends of
Speaker 2: mine that I've known for years to call in on
Speaker 2: the Friday show. But what the hell, I'll ask the
Speaker 2: person alleging to be Elon Musk to call in. So
Speaker 2: there you go. Anyway I thought, And yes, the Weekly
Speaker 2: Reader is based on the idea that we used to
Speaker 2: get these weekly Reader magazines and it went on for
Speaker 2: like thirty years, the Weekly Reader magazine in school. That
Speaker 2: is what I'm paying homage to with the thing I'm
Speaker 2: doing on the front page now. And I've only just
Speaker 2: put out my little introduction. But we're gonna hear from
Speaker 2: Larry Hancock and Alex Harris, and a poet named Carla,
Speaker 2: and a few other people that are writing or have
Speaker 2: written pieces in the coming weeks. Matter of fact, starting
Speaker 2: as soon as I handle part of the Skype transition,
Speaker 2: we're going to publish the very first article, which should
Speaker 2: have something to do with the transitions of technologies. But
Speaker 2: who knows, maybe I'll have to write an article or hey,
Speaker 2: if I've got Elon Musk on board, maybe he could
Speaker 2: whip up something for me to put on the front page. Eh. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I make no claim that I'm certain about any of this.
Speaker 2: I'm just presenting to you what has been presented to me,
Speaker 2: and that's the best I can do most of the time,
Speaker 2: although sometimes I'm very convinced about the evidence I have
Speaker 2: in front of me, and I'm able to analyze things
Speaker 2: in a unique way, much like that whole thing on
Speaker 2: the Greek topic I had talked about during the last show,
Speaker 2: where he had this thing on YouTube where it's a
Speaker 2: lookout for Charlie is the YouTube channel, and the guy
Speaker 2: pulls apart audio and finds hidden messages in audio, and
Speaker 2: I'm hearing completely different things because my brain is processing
Speaker 2: an entirely different frequency from what he and his listeners
Speaker 2: apparently are picking up on. But that's yet another discussion
Speaker 2: and something that if somebody had access to high end
Speaker 2: technology could probably utilize the fact that I see things
Speaker 2: on a different color spectrum than most people, and perhaps
Speaker 2: I hear things in different frequencies than other people do.
Speaker 2: My brain has been trained to deal with a slightly
Speaker 2: different frequency. Perhaps that's why I feel like I never
Speaker 2: quite fit in. And again I've never revealed even the
Speaker 2: famous person who was in contact with me about my
Speaker 2: show and was listening to the show as per an
Speaker 2: agreement I had with them, I semi revealed one person
Speaker 2: who had said they had stopped in to take a
Speaker 2: listen to an episode or two that I had hung
Speaker 2: out with in the past, and he didn't have an
Speaker 2: objection to it. And that was Tommy Lee from Motley Crue.
Speaker 2: But I haven't heard from him since god twenty fourteen
Speaker 2: or fifteen, back in the very very beginning, and I
Speaker 2: only got to hang out with him a little bit
Speaker 2: when I was living in California. But this other person
Speaker 2: came to me through the show. They just randomly found
Speaker 2: me that way because they liked listening to all media apparently,
Speaker 2: and it's somebody you've never seen publicly connected to all media,
Speaker 2: so you know, it's not like Charlie Sheen or something,
Speaker 2: although at one point I thought I might have been
Speaker 2: in contact with Charlie Sheen briefly, but he was like
Speaker 2: willing to write to anybody. At one point, he had
Speaker 2: like a crazy thing he was doing on video channels,
Speaker 2: even before these video podcasts were popular, and he was
Speaker 2: like letting you into his house to like hang out
Speaker 2: on video. It was a whole weird thing he was doing.
Speaker 2: And so I was one of those guys for a minute,
Speaker 2: but no, but an actual one on one interaction I
Speaker 2: had with somebody else, And it would be bizarre if
Speaker 2: Elon Musk randomly selected me, and I'd love to see
Speaker 2: what he's willing to work with me on if it's
Speaker 2: actually him, and if not, you know, what can I say?
Speaker 2: There's a million scammers out there and at least this
Speaker 2: guy isn't asking for money. You can't if you're Elon Musk,
Speaker 2: you can't be the prince asking you know, the what
Speaker 2: country were they from? There was always like an African prince,
Speaker 2: right that would if you give me five thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: I'll be able to release the millions and I'll give
Speaker 2: you one hundred thousand, you know for your troubles. But
Speaker 2: I need a deposit today. What was it? Nigerian Prince?
Speaker 2: That's what it was, Nigeria. I had to think about
Speaker 2: it for a minute. But that's like the oldest scam
Speaker 2: on the internet. I think it still exists. But people
Speaker 2: catfishing or being fakes has been out there forever and
Speaker 2: it would be amazing to me if I actually am
Speaker 2: sitting here telling Elon Musk, I don't believe you are
Speaker 2: you are, which I did for an interaction here for
Speaker 2: a minute, he kind of got irritated with it and
Speaker 2: sent that voice miss, So you know, is it a
Speaker 2: deep fake? Is it him cleverly cutting together some audio.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Anyway, I'll leave it at that and
Speaker 2: that's the end of the Ocelli Effect Wednesday. But I'll
Speaker 2: be back tomorrow night with an interesting interview, and of
Speaker 2: course the Friday night show will go on as scheduled.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Aaron and Uncle are going to
Speaker 2: be live, but either way, we'll go live on Friday,
Speaker 2: and we'll also be live on Thursday. So you will
Speaker 2: get four shows this week at least from the O'Kelly
Speaker 2: Effect podcast feed, and I'm hoping to have a couple
Speaker 2: of new podcasters joined me soon to do the live
Speaker 2: show that becomes a podcast later. So anyway, with all
Speaker 2: of that having been said, I'm happy to have you
Speaker 2: guys along. Whoever it is that decided to listen to
Speaker 2: this love to get some feedback from you. You can
Speaker 2: leave it in the chatroom at ochelli dot com. There
Speaker 2: is a live chat button. If you go to the
Speaker 2: front page again and you click on there's big, huge
Speaker 2: buttons that say, you know, listen live and chat you
Speaker 2: can go there, find a live player and chat in
Speaker 2: the room, but the chat remains after so you know,
Speaker 2: as long as we're not having to kick you out
Speaker 2: or you're not being an obnoxious douche, hey, your stuff
Speaker 2: will sit there. People can read it back later, and
Speaker 2: you can read my notes that I give out during
Speaker 2: the live shows, or you can read the show notes
Speaker 2: that come along with the podcast. Anyway, I've got a
Speaker 2: couple of graphics to produce and a meal to find
Speaker 2: and eat. If we have some food in the house,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but you can always make a contribution.
Speaker 2: There's a PayPal button there on ochelli dot com. More
Speaker 2: than happy to have it, and if you make a
Speaker 2: donation today, I'm certain it'll go toward food. Anyway, that's
Speaker 2: what it is. That's what it was, and that's what
Speaker 2: it's going to be. My name is O'Kelly. All of
Speaker 2: you are indeed the effect be well