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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho.

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a nice little street. But now from January eleventh, nineteen

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fifty here's the episode Gambling and Divorce Can Mean murder.

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Speaker 2: A Big Story.

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Speaker 3: You're the nightclub, you just signed the register. You just

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give me your money. I'll kill you the gun. Just

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tell me this. How's the hunting in these parts.

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Speaker 4: You mean, dear bear, rabbit, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Where can I get a twenty two automatic pistol

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or rifle?

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Speaker 5: Gee?

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Speaker 4: I don't know?

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Speaker 3: All right, tell me this. I see a big, full

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page ad in the paper. Open house at cal Never Ranch.

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What's that.

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Speaker 6: It's a big place out near the California border, about

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thirty miles out.

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Speaker 4: They do it the opening of every season. Free drinks

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on the house, free meal, big grub packed.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that'll be even better than what did you say, deers,

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bears and rabbits. Yeah, that ought to be even better.

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Now I want a twenty two rifle or automatic pistol now.

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Speaker 2: Reno Nevada, The story of a reporter who showed that

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gambling and divorce can also mean murder. Reno, Nevada, The

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Stories that actually happened. Frank McCullough's story as he lived it.

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Speaker 4: The body was found slumped over the wheel of a Cadillac,

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a bullet having entered through the left temple and lodged

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in the brain. The necktie was drawn up tight against

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the throat. He was identified by a local resident of

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the Lake Tahoe region, just inside the Nevada border near California,

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Why sure, Sheriff. Everybody knows him. Name's Winsle. Owns a

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lot of property in these parts. Some says riches creases,

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some say didn't have a dime. Two feet from the

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rich or poor real estate dealer, on the floor of

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the car was the casing from a twenty two caliber shell,

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and on the seat next to him was a bag

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of sweet rolls bought at the Alixa Bakery near Lake Tahoe.

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These rolls bought here, That's right, Sheriff.

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Speaker 7: These are our six for a quarter. They're very good.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure they're a big fat man about seventy buy them.

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Speaker 7: You mean, mister Winsor. That's right. He buys them almost

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every other day. You know, sometimes I can't understand what

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he buys them because he likes them, like he says,

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or because that's what he eats for his lunch.

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Speaker 4: Did he say anything to you about going to the

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open house at the cow Never Ranch?

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Speaker 7: Isn't that funny now that you mention it? I said

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to my husband, what's he buying rolls for? If he's

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going to the cow Never Ranch opening? You'll get enough

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to eat there?

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Speaker 5: Okay? Thanks?

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Speaker 4: Say let me have one of those brownies.

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Speaker 5: They look good by Now.

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Speaker 4: The news of the death that reached you, Frank McCallum,

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reporter for the Reno Gazette, reached all of Renault, and

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you were out at the cow Never Ranch with Sheriff Parsons.

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As he questioned the headwaiter, the ranch was a beautiful,

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sprawling place. It's dining room in California, open till till.

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It's bar and gambling room in Nevada, open all night,

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very pleasant and comfortable and very convenient. And the headwaiter

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went with the place.

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Speaker 5: Well, you see, Sheriff, our open house is perhaps the

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most popular event of the season. We get oh two,

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five hundred three thousand people in that day. And Winsor

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was in. Oh yes, like I said, it was crowded,

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and mister Windsor was waiting on the line for the table,

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and I didn't have a table, I mean, I couldn't

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give him a table alone. So I asked him if

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he would mind doubling up. He said sure, and he

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sat down at the table with this other fellow.

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Speaker 4: What was the other fellow?

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Speaker 5: Like just a fellow young. I really didn't notice.

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Speaker 4: What did they talk about? I mean, at the table.

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Speaker 5: Well, I wouldn't need to drop, okay, show.

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Speaker 4: Me the waitress.

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Speaker 7: Well, he was very fussy. I brought him the curry

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chicken and he said, you call this curry chicken. And

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he sent it back. And then he said the mashed

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potatoes had lumps in them. The coffee was called Oh no,

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said the other fella, the young fella, good looking one.

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ice cream. He had to say something.

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Speaker 4: What did they talk about?

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Speaker 7: Well, as near as I could get, you know, I

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was very busy. The young one was interested in buying

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property in the area, and the fat was I guess

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that's his name, But he kept saying that there wasn't

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any better land in the lake Tyhole region, you know,

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like a sales talk. And the young one kept saying, well,

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he didn't know if he wanted to stay in this

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part of the country, and the famine kept saying how

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he couldn't do better. He kept saying, these were the choices,

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not in the whole area. But I was busy. I

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didn't really hear what they said. They leave together, well

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they must have, because there they weren't. When I looked

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the next time, there was a lady and a gentleman

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sitting there. I was surprised because the young one left

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the dollar. He didn't act like a tip of to me.

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Fat one didn't leave nothing.

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Speaker 4: Link between the two men, the fat, dead one and

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the thin young one, came from an associate of Wensil's,

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a young man who worked with him in the real

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estate office.

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Speaker 8: Well after he finished eating, I was at another table.

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He came over and he said, Eddie, that's my name, Eddie.

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I think I got a sale. And I said, gee,

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mister Wenzel, it's a funny time to be going out

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with a prospect.

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Speaker 3: It was going on eleven o'clock.

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Speaker 8: And then he said, listen, if I can't sell that

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boy a piece of property by moonlight, I'll eat my

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own necktie.

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Speaker 4: And then to find the tie tied around his neck

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like it was. Gee. He was a fine, happy, good man.

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And it stops there. A rich a poor man shot

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through the temple. Last scene with a good looking young prospect.

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Period and that's all. Nothing else shows up. But you,

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Frank McCullum, are a crime reporter, and for you, the

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case is not closed because of a theory you have

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that is this somewhere sometime someone always talks about every

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major crime committed. That's been your experience, twelve years of it.

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And so you start on your beer and listening system

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and the dives along Commercial Avenue. We're somewhere sometime someone

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must talk. Have a beer, tummy, whiskey, you've got it, tummy.

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This one happened thirty miles out, thirty one from here

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to the count of a ranch, thirty one miles.

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Speaker 5: I'm measured once by car.

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Speaker 4: How do you know what I was talking about?

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Speaker 9: Yes, questions, but a lot of places.

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Speaker 4: What do you know about WinCE? I'm interested in finding

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out of it.

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Speaker 5: Maybe you shouldn't.

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Speaker 9: Shouldn't what you said you was interested? Maybe you shouldn't

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be What does that mean? Just what I said? Look,

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do yourself a fat favor, save yourself trouble, and I

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mean big trouble. Forget about it, and come on, where's

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the whiskey?

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Speaker 4: How many nos? No crime within one hundred miles? He

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doesn't know about it, but there's no more. He swallows

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his whiskey, and another one and a third, but there's

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still no more. Just the enigmatic. Maybe you shouldn't be interested, then,

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Sergeant Dave Peter Sidletova.

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Speaker 5: Where you're going, reporter?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Just walking around?

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Speaker 5: What gave you the idea you'd get any answers on

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the Windstil killing here?

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Speaker 4: How did you know? I was on Winstle.

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Speaker 5: Look, let's don't spark, eh, I got other things to do.

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What do you know, McCullen. Oh, I've got ideas. I've

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got theories and I've got ideas. Okay, you play it

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close to the chest, and so will I.

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Speaker 4: Wait a minute. I know that Wenzel wasn't rich. I

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know he was a fourth flush. He had those lots

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on consignment and if he sold them, he had a

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dollar and if he didn't, he had buttons that much.

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Speaker 5: I know. I figured this prospect, the young guy, the

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good looking one, he thought he had a take, but

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he found out he didn't have a take. Something I

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crossed up somewhere and the gun went off.

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Speaker 4: And what do you know about the prospect?

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Speaker 5: Nothing? But I know this. Two days before the killing,

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there was a gunman in town. I don't know where

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he stayed. I don't know what he did. I don't

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know what he was after.

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Speaker 4: That's something I heard about.

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Speaker 5: Also, I know this guy, the gunman was out shopping

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for a twenty two. Now that's the only connection. What

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he looks like I don't know. And what he was

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after I don't know, except he tried to get a

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twenty two.

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Speaker 4: You want to see him up what I've got, what

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you've gotten, vice versa.

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Speaker 5: All right, you got a deal. No stories in your paper.

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Speaker 4: A gunman and a prospect buying real estate to caliber

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gun and from the way Sergeant Peter's talked, from the

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way Tommy talked, a case that isn't very healthy. Don't mentioned,

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and so you don't, not to your best friend, not

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to your wife. But the next morning, Tommy, whose last

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name nobody knows, comes over to you in another commercial

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avenue bar.

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Speaker 9: You got a loose half buck on you, quite sure?

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All the time, Tommy whiskey not chaser. See you and

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Sergeant Peter's as a beer and you'll be getting in

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the gossip columns next.

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Speaker 4: How do you know?

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Speaker 3: Make that a beer chase?

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Speaker 9: You you know the Golden Light Hotel.

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Speaker 4: I've heard of it.

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Speaker 9: There's a nightclif there by the name of Addison. But

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like I told you before, it's something you shouldn't be

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interested in.

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Speaker 4: I'm not Tommy. It's just that I'd like to get

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a room at the Golden Light. Where would I get

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a twenty two? I don't know anything about a twenty two.

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Speaker 6: You think if a fella comes in here and says,

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get me at twenty two, I'll go out and get

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him at twenty two.

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Speaker 4: Look Atison, I heard you weren't very particular.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, I ain't denying.

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Speaker 6: If this sain't the best hotel in town, you can

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get things here, sure, but guns, oh sir, that's out

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of my line.

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Speaker 1: That's way off.

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Speaker 4: Look, let's stop kidding around. You know just what I'm

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talking about. I'm talking about wins.

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Speaker 7: Look, you know what's the worst thing in the world

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to know is.

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Speaker 6: To know something about something you don't want to know

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about a fellow killing another fella. That's the most dangerous

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thing in the world to know.

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Speaker 4: You ought to be glad.

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Speaker 5: I'm not talking to you.

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Speaker 6: I've been walking around with this thing for three days now,

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and I'm going crazy with it. I don't want to

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know it.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it.

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Speaker 5: Let me alone. What he looked like?

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Speaker 4: What did the gunman look like?

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you, three days, I'm going crazy with it.

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I'm not going to say another word. Don't you think

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I want to.

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Speaker 5: Live pool.

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Speaker 4: The information alone frightens someone, but paralyze a man as

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the clerk is paralyzed. Only one thing could do that,

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the presence of the killer in town and then in

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a hotel bar.

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Speaker 10: He says, you mccollor, go ahead, he says, stop talking

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to Peter's a cup, He says, stay away from Tommy the.

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Speaker 5: Stooling, who says.

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Speaker 10: He says, leave Adison alone, stay out of the golden light.

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Speaker 4: Look, stop getting mysterious, he.

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Speaker 10: Says, forget about it, because he says, he says, he's

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watching you every single step of the way. And he says,

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maybe you're a smart enough reporter to want to go

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home to your wife and the two kids you got.

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One's six and one's two, aren't they That's what he said.

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Speaker 4: You're on a case of murder, but you haven't spoken

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about it to anyone, not even your wife. You Frank mccullar,

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reporter for the Reno Nevada Gazette, and Sergeant Dave Peters

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are working together on the case, and though you keep

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it to yourselves, someone knows every move you make. Someone's

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watching you. Maybe the killer, and you just left a girl,

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a girl you never saw before, who told you.

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Speaker 10: He says, forget about it, forget all about it.

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Speaker 4: That's what he says. And so of course you go

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to your partner, Dave Peters.

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Speaker 5: You're slipping, Frank, Why because obviously she knows more than

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she told you, Because there are ways of getting to

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learn what that more is, and you didn't do it.

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So I think I can. I'll go back to the

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hotel bar and we'll find out what it is. Okay, Pardner, Okay.

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Speaker 7: I can't tell you.

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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Speaker 7: I swear I can't. He'll kill me if I tell you.

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Speaker 5: Did you ever hear of the police department? Lady, Guys

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don't go around killing people just like that. Now, who

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is he? And where is he?

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Speaker 8: In?

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Speaker 5: Talk? And you want me to go through the whole

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routine and arrest you for suppressing information, hindering the prosecution

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of justice and so on and so forth. Where is he?

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Speaker 10: He's up in room two for asleep.

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Speaker 4: Luddigan is his name.

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Speaker 7: But please, maybe I'm stupid, but don't say it was me.

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Speaker 11: Huh, all right, luddigin come out of it, come out

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of it.

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Speaker 4: His eyes it is he looks coked up.

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Speaker 5: Maybe come on lud again. Come on, come on, let's

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set up.

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Speaker 4: What are you doing? Take your hands off me? Leave

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me alone? All right? Lettergan? Where'd you get the gun?

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Speaker 5: Uh? Why don't you call me Ludigan? Is that who

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I am? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Don't sound right?

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Speaker 5: Don't sound right?

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Speaker 4: What are you doing? Putting on an act?

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Speaker 5: Here? Come on? Stand up? Stand up? State, come on,

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stand ups.

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Speaker 12: Walking around All of a sudden, I said, you know,

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I don't know who I am, all of a sudden

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like that, and I heard a violin playing some music somewhere. Violin,

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and it started a tingle all down my arms and

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my legs again, a tingle. And I said, it must

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be I got something to do with a violin. That's

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who I am. Something to do with a violin.

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Speaker 4: What do you get?

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Speaker 12: I went to the store, this music store, and I says,

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give me a violin and a bowl. I put up

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my shoulder under my neck and I started to play,

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and I says, please God, let me know how to.

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Speaker 5: Play the violin.

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Speaker 12: Maybe did I'll find out who I am? But I

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couldn't play.

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Speaker 3: Came out sour.

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Speaker 12: I couldn't play a thing, not a note, only made

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scratching sounds. I never found out until you just now

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said luddigan. And I don't think that's right. I don't

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think that's who I am.

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Speaker 5: You registered in the hotel, you signed the register.

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Speaker 12: Only time I felt anything that was right was when

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I heard that music. And now that don't mean nothing, even.

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Speaker 5: Nothing?

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Speaker 4: You know what do you think?

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Speaker 5: All right? Let again, sit down and go back to sleep.

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Don't go anywhere, am i? Frank? I think he's on

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a lettle me too if he isn't level and then

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our girlfriend is giving us a beautiful line.

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Speaker 4: For sure, that's what it is. She threw us a

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lot again, figuring that we take him in adope, amnesia

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can't prove where he was, where he wasn't figured we'd

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be satisfied with him.

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Speaker 5: That means that's right. And I'll tell you another little surprise.

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I talk to your friend Tommy, just to make sure

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you know who she is. Oh, she's the wife of

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the night clerk at the Golden Light.

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Speaker 4: Well, well, well.

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Speaker 5: Only we're not going there right now. We're gonna wait

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until it's nice and dark and late and he's sleeping,

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and we'll pay him that call night clerk he's off

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duty tonight. Put the light on, right, Hey, what are

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you doing?

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Speaker 3: What's the idea?

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Speaker 4: Hey? Oh yeah, oh that was a nice idea. Throw

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us a fall guy, throw us a guy who don't

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know who he is, and maybe we'll pick him up

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and maybe that'll end again.

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Speaker 6: Look, I tell you, you gotta believe.

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Speaker 5: We'll believe you when you start talking about the tall, thin,

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handsome guy, the guy with twenty two. There's nobody around.

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We'll checked. There's nobody around but two of my men.

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So if you want to talk quiet, that's okay too. Talk.

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Speaker 6: You think I'm kidding huh about it being dangerous to know?

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I'm telling you never, in my life I never meet

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a guy like him, and I met a lot ice cold.

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Everything he said, everything he did, plan careful, Icy, You

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look in his eyes. You have to turn your face away.

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Speaker 4: All right, Fine, Now let's get down to the facts.

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Speaker 6: The first thing he'd done was you know about the

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ad in your paper, the cow Never Ranch takes for

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the open house.

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Speaker 4: Oh, no, more stalling, not, I swear I'm.

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Speaker 6: Telling you well.

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Speaker 4: He asked me about it.

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Speaker 6: He turned to the page and showed me the ad

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and says that was two days before the kill him.

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Speaker 3: I think the hunting there might be better than theirs.

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Bears and rabbits. Now get me at twenty two.

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Speaker 6: I never got nobody a gun before, never, But you know,

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just to look at this guy that if you didn't

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do what he said.

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Speaker 4: Never mind go on.

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Speaker 6: So I got it for him through a guy I know.

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And then I didn't see him for twenty four hours,

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and then.

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Speaker 4: He came back.

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Speaker 6: He came back going on one in the morning.

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Speaker 3: I was all alone, How much money you got, Adison?

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Speaker 4: Gee, I ain't got any money. What do you mean?

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you a funny story about that gun you

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got me. I went out to the place, the ranch,

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and I met this big fat dub Wintle. He tells

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me how Richie is all the landing eons? Five acre

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is there? Twenty ac is there? So I says, this

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is what I'm waiting for. He's got a fat Cadillac.

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He takes me out there in the moonlight to see

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the prize lights, and I says, all right, pap, what

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do you got in your pocket? And the dumb fat

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slobby started a scream. So what can I do? He

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had eight bucks in his pocket in the back. Give

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sweet rules he did.

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Speaker 5: I left.

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Speaker 6: You shot him.

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Speaker 3: How much money you got? I got a nineteen forty

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nine Mercury Dancetairs. I'll leave it with you for security

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because they'll probably be roadblocks anyhow. How much money you got?

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The car is yours.

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Speaker 6: And that's the truth, sergeant. I got it for two

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hundred dollars, and he give me the car. I never

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drove it, I never touched it.

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Speaker 4: Where is it?

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Speaker 5: It's out in the back of the garage.

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Speaker 4: License plates, there ain't none. He made me bury him.

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Speaker 6: He said, don't look at the numbers. If you ever

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seen a man's face cold ice.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's go where you buried the plates.

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Speaker 4: You dig them up Texas license plates. And now it's

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a matter of way to you check the plates with

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the Texas authorities and find his name. Martin Stevens, a

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record a page and a half long, wanted for robbery,

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for assault, escape from prison. This man is danger everything

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in the book. And you'll wait and then a disturbing

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report comes in from Houston, Texas. Martin Stephens picked up Houston,

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Texas today thanks to have been the city past five weeks.

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Corroboration by wife's local school teacher can sticker reliable. You

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want extra dish, Peters, I don't get it. I don't

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get it at all. Let me see that unless Steve unless, Yeah,

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it was icy eyes. The kind of thing he made

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Addison do, shouldn't be hard for God like that to

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have his own wife lie the same way.

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Speaker 5: I'm putting in for extradition.

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Speaker 4: Right now, he comes Martin Stevens, well dressed, thin, tall,

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good looking, a tolerant smile playing on his face.

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Speaker 3: I was never written about it. I never heard of

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this wrench, whatever you call it. I never stayed at

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the hotel on Commercial Avenue, and I don't know how

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to use a gun. Otherwise I met your service.

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Speaker 4: The eyes are, as Addison said, absolute ice, now warm

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for purposes of charming people, convincing them. So because your

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experience as a reporter has helped so much, you were

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present when Sergeant Peters lines them up, the inexorable array

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of people, one after the other.

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Speaker 5: As I said before, he waited on the line because

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I didn't have any free tables. And then I showed

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mister Winstle to a table. This gentleman was sitting there.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I can't make a mistake. No sir, him being

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so good looking with that cute mustache, and the way

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he left me a tip.

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Speaker 8: It was a whole dollar bill, mister Winshell said to me,

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pointing to him. If I can't sew him by moonlight,

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I'll eat my own neck tie.

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Speaker 10: It was his idea to tell the cop and the

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reporter that this lood again, the fellow who lost his mind,

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that he was the one who'd done it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Allison, take a good look. I don't know. Those

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are bars between you, one in steel bars, and he's

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been frisked. His eyes can't wanny more than look at you. Well,

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he's the one.

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Speaker 6: I got him the gun, and I gave him two

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hundred dollars and he made me bury the plate.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Edison, one home, forget all about it.

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Speaker 3: Even with all that, you still won't prove it. You

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won't prove a thing. I spent the whole time in Texas, Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be so sure, Stevens. I think we'll prove it. Fine,

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and you do. The jury listens to the witnesses, the waitress,

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the headwaiter, the business associate, the night clerk and his wife,

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and then they listen to the handsome man with a mustache,

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and I see eyes, and they make a judgment, and

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the judgment is as you stated. And once more, your

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theory is right. Somewhere sometime, some one always talks.

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Speaker 2: Now we read you that telegram from Frank McCullough of

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the Reno, Nevada Gazette.

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Speaker 4: Entrial for First Green murder. Killer in Tonight's Big Story

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accused the night clerk of being the murderer. The state

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clinched their case by producing the murdered gun, which killer

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had pawned in Los Angeles. Killer was sentenced to life imprisonment,

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and so.

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Speaker 13: Ends another Big Story. In order to protect the names

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of people actually involved into Night's authentic Big Story, the

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names of all characters and the dramatization were changed, with

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the exception of the newspaper reporter.

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Speaker 3: This is the United.

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Speaker 13: States Armed Forces Radio Service, the Voice of Information and Education.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Well, it's time to go ahead and go

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over the cast. Frank McCullough was played by Bill Quinn.

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Also in the cast Athena Lord, Roy Bester, Joe DeSantis,

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Mandel Kramer really the first voice I recognized in this

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William Keane and Paul Man of note that there was

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a character in this episode named Peters, but Kramer didn't play,

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which I guess might be best given that he was

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playing Peters on Counterspot. Now, somewhat amusingly, this episode, despite

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the title, has nothing to do with divorce or gambling really. Now,

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if I were to speculate on an explanation, it seems

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that episode was named for what Areno was known for,

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as at the time, it had the least stringent requirements

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for obtaining a divorce in the United States. So if

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you saw a movie or a radio program and a character,

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particularly a woman, were on their way to Reno, then

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you could bet that you would later find out that

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they were getting a divorce. And of course gambling we get,

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but again, neither had anything to do with this story.

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It's just something that the area was known for. Now,

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in terms of this episode, we once again have a

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case based on a more recent event, this one from

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just seven months earlier, and it involved real estate investor

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Walter Hempel, who, according to doctor Joe Webb, was wealthy.

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There was someone who was found and charged but later released,

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and the killer was found in Houston, a man by

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the name of Mark James Donnelly and the Reno Hotel

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employee was important. He Donnelly actually told the employee, I've

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got to talk to you. I'm in trouble and have

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to get out of town. And he told him that

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he had killed a man and showed him the dead

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man's wallet. So he ended up getting sentenced to life imprisonment.

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That trial completed in November, so only two months before

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this aired.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: Now it's time to think all our Patreons of the day,

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and I want to thank Laura, Patreon supporter since April

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twenty eighteen, currently supporting the podcast at the Shawmas level

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of four dollars more per month. Thanks so much for

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your support, Laura, and now'll do it for today. If

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you're enjoying the podcast, please follow us using your favorite

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podcast software and be sure to rate and review the

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podcast wherever you download it from. We'll be back next

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Tuesday with another episode of The Big Story. But join

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us back here tomorrow for Broadways My beat where.

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Speaker 14: And uptown north on Broadway and East one hundred and

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tenth Street in Central Park in the part of the

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night that hung over a lake where I was standing

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in the floodlights and the roll boat and detective Muggament

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and the huddled shape.

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Speaker 4: I got him, daddy alight right? Better give me a

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hand with him?

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Speaker 5: Got him?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Is it okay? Once a citizen was right, Danny Man

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drowned in Central Park Lake. The citizens said, some flow.

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Speaker 14: This boy wasn't drowned.

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Speaker 5: Logo, look in the back.

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Speaker 14: The small caliber gun hasn't been dead too long? About nineteen?

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Speaker 5: Good looking boy? Nothing?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 14: The wallet pocket's empty, no identification? What's he got in

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his handle? In his hand, his fist, he could be

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holding it, Yeah he was. Look, let me have it.

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Strange looking ring, isn't it antique? No initials?

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Speaker 4: Sign?

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime.

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