WEBVTT 1 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:22.640 Oh my god, When does this end? When will this end? 2 00:00:23.320 --> 00:00:25.280 Somebody please turn the heater on, will you? 3 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:25.960 God? 4 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:27.239 I can't get warm. 5 00:00:27.879 --> 00:00:32.600 This has been going on for weeks, and I'm in California, gentle, 6 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:38.280 temperate California. It's not happening, man. It has been miserably cold. 7 00:00:39.079 --> 00:00:42.200 Of course cold for me. Cold for us is like 8 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:47.320 low forties, not quite freezing, but it's cold enough. I 9 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:51.399 was out hiking yesterday, and I usually have nothing to 10 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:56.119 say when it's cold, but I was uncomfortably. 11 00:00:57.039 --> 00:00:57.200 Iced. 12 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:01.399 I was on ice. As I was trying to hike. 13 00:01:01.560 --> 00:01:04.280 I was on ice. I couldn't get warm. 14 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:05.079 It was. 15 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:09.439 It's uncomfortable. And I don't know. I mean my girlfriends 16 00:01:09.439 --> 00:01:11.799 saying it's global warming. 17 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:14.000 I'm like, I don't know. 18 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:16.920 I mean, is it because you get older and you 19 00:01:16.959 --> 00:01:19.879 don't have the same layer of a fat? Well, I 20 00:01:20.599 --> 00:01:23.000 have my layers of fat. I just don't think it's 21 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:26.480 I just think it's cold. It's just uncomfortably cold. 22 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:28.200 Anyhow. 23 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:30.959 Welcome to Earth Ancients. I'm your host, Cliff Dunning. If 24 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:33.359 you want to see me, go to my Facebook page. 25 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:37.719 I'm worrying my sweats sweatsuit. I've got my head covered 26 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:43.000 and I got my microphones, got my earphones and my 27 00:01:43.159 --> 00:01:46.280 mic right in front of my face, and I'm shivering. 28 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:51.239 I'm shivering because it's so cold. I've been having thoughts 29 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:55.319 of Turkey and Turkey this year. We're going to be 30 00:01:55.400 --> 00:01:59.959 doing Turkey June twenty second, and we got some spots left. 31 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:04.359 We're gonna see Cappadocia. We're gonna see Darren Kuru, the 32 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:10.199 Underground City. We're gonna see go Beckley Teppee. But even 33 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:13.280 more important, we're gonna get on the bus and drive 34 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:15.960 another twenty miles and gonna we're gonna go see uh 35 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:20.719 Carahan tippy That's the place everyone's got their eye on 36 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:24.919 right now because the excavations are revealing not a few 37 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:29.280 human like sculptures, but a whole bunch of new sculptures. 38 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:32.520 There's a figure of a man. He's about eight feet 39 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:37.479 tall with these ribs hanging out and he has this 40 00:02:37.800 --> 00:02:41.240 very unusual face. And when we were in the museum 41 00:02:41.439 --> 00:02:48.000 that's close by Karahan Tippye, there's a couple of female 42 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:51.080 types and of this one eight foot tall man, and 43 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:56.759 then these morphed anthropologically morphed creatures that are half man 44 00:02:56.840 --> 00:03:00.560 half animal that we're there too, so I don't know 45 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:03.680 it's just they doing psychedelics. 46 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:05.400 It sure looks like it. 47 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:08.439 And we're just beginning to get a sense of who 48 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:13.360 these people are. And there was a skull. I reported 49 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:15.919 on a skull they had found. I think this is 50 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:18.360 a couple of months ago. We still have not heard 51 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:23.919 any conclusive evidence of the age. But one of the 52 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:26.759 things that came back is it was petrified. 53 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:29.560 It was stone, so it must be. 54 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:35.039 I mean, I don't know what the criteria is for stone, 55 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:40.199 I mean bone to turn the stone, but it must 56 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:42.599 be more than ten thousand years. It must be a 57 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:43.520 lot more than that. 58 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:44.680 I don't know. 59 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:45.479 I'm gonna find out. 60 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:47.879 I really want one of these guys that was over 61 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:53.319 there a lot, either Hugh Newman, Andrew Collins, somebody who 62 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:57.400 is reporting on it somewhat monthly, to be able to 63 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:02.879 come back and go, hey, thirty fifty thousand years old, 64 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:07.759 and that really begins to mark the time that these 65 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:12.479 early sellers were in those parts of Turkey. So but anyhow, 66 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:16.759 we're gonna see a number of monasteries, we're gonna see 67 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:21.839 the spice market, and the museums alone are worth the trip. 68 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:23.639 So come out and join us. 69 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:25.279 It's gonna be a great tour. 70 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:27.639 It's only a handful of people. We only do these 71 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:32.319 small tours twenty maybe twenty five, usually twenty because we 72 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:36.360 want everybody on the same bus. Hotels are outrageous and 73 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:41.399 they're comfortable, and we have the top of the alying food. 74 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:45.360 This is with Saba Tours. Our friend Mohammad Imbraheim and 75 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:48.879 his wife Noha will be there and this is just 76 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:52.920 a fantastic tour. For more information go to Earthancients dot 77 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:54.360 com forward slash tours. 78 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:55.639 Check it out. 79 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:58.319 You'll have a blast with us. Hey, by the way, 80 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:01.040 if any time you want to talk to me and 81 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:02.879 you want to ask questions, send me an email at 82 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:05.279 Earth Ancients the number four of the letter you at 83 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:09.199 gmail dot com. I answer questions every day on topics 84 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:12.959 all over the world. So anyhow, Turkey is on my 85 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:18.759 mind because it's warm and I am cold, and I 86 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:21.199 really feel for you guys that live in sub zero 87 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:28.720 minus zero temperatures because that's really grueling. And I can't 88 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:32.560 imagine going out and hiking in like fifteen minus fifteen 89 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:37.439 minus thirty degree whether I think at some point, and 90 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:40.399 this is years ago, I think at some point, it's 91 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:45.040 dangerous to go out when it's sub zero. Now does 92 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:49.439 that mean sub zero minus ten, minus twenty minus thirty, 93 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:52.160 I don't know if it's If it's smart, you know 94 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:55.519 to do that. And that's why people were face where 95 00:05:56.759 --> 00:05:59.959 they wear protective masks and things like that, because you 96 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:03.920 can't expose your skin to that extreme weather. But anyhow, 97 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:08.000 if you guys are dealing with that, man, I feel 98 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:08.680 for you, and. 99 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:10.600 I can't imagine here. 100 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:14.800 I am crying about forty two to forty five degree 101 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:21.519 fahrenheit and that's not anything close to what you're dealing with. 102 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:24.079 So hang in there. Let's cross our fingers for a 103 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:29.360 quick spring. So hey, I want to remind you Graham 104 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:32.920 Hancock's going to be in the United States in April 105 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:36.160 of this year doing his only talk. It's going to 106 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:40.560 be in Sedona, Arizona, and it's April nineteenth of the twentieth. 107 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:42.839 If you have a chance to see him live, you 108 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:47.079 should check it out. Graham's presentations are world class. They 109 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:52.120 are enthralling, the slides are excellent, and he is just 110 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:56.519 a fantastic presenter. He is giving a talk called the 111 00:06:56.560 --> 00:07:00.319 Fight for the Past Again. It will be a Sedona Arizona, 112 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:04.839 April nineteenth to the twentieth. To see the details, go 113 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:11.240 to worldsviews media dot com. That's world Views with a 114 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:15.920 z media dot com. You can see the itinerary get 115 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:19.680 a sense of what's going on. He will be signing books, 116 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:24.079 He'll be meeting people personally. He's really quite a congenial 117 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:28.920 guy and really enjoys meeting his fans. Not to be 118 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:33.319 missed again April nineteenth to twentieth. I do have one 119 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:38.000 last ticket we've given away pair. I have one ticket. 120 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:41.959 If you're interested in being in the final raffle, that's 121 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:44.079 for one ticket. So if you have somebody that you'd 122 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:45.720 like to bring, you're gonna have to come up with 123 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:48.839 the price for the other one. But I have one ticket. 124 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:51.279 I think it's it's a value of about four hundred bucks. 125 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:55.680 Simean email. Send the email to Earth Ancients the number 126 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:58.920 four of the letter you at gmail dot com and 127 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:05.040 say on the subject go Graham Hancock and then just 128 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:10.040 say sign me up. We have Michael Kremo on the 129 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:13.279 program today, and it's always a pleasure having him on 130 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:18.639 simply because he is constantly looking into man's antiquity on Earth. 131 00:08:19.240 --> 00:08:21.879 He has a new book coming out in the fall, 132 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:26.319 and we will present be presenting that as it is available, 133 00:08:27.399 --> 00:08:29.319 and we're gonna talk a little bit about that. But 134 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:34.559 today's program is about the Yuga Cycles. But not only that, 135 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:36.559 he validates these cycles. 136 00:08:36.600 --> 00:08:37.679 You remember the. 137 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:42.559 Extreme age of the cycles. The total time it takes 138 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:45.519 to go through the whole Yuga cycle is four million, 139 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:50.919 three hundred and twenty thousand years, and it's broken into 140 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:58.799 these periods of high a very high evolution, very high consciousness. 141 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:05.639 And we're going to talk about his discoveries of elements 142 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:09.799 of these extreme periods of Earth's history and what they 143 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:12.039 look like. And a lot of people can't talk about that. 144 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:16.519 Michael can because in his book Forbidden Archaeology he describes 145 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:20.399 some of the intricate artifacts that have been found that 146 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:26.960 are related to that. Now, if you have read Forbidden Archaeology, 147 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:32.919 you know that he chronicles artifacts that are extremely old. 148 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:36.000 He has some pieces that are over one hundred million 149 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:41.000 years old. Artifacts that are like hammers and bells and 150 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:49.200 coins that represent earlier civilizations, complete civilizations that came and 151 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:53.440 went on Earth, I mean one hundred millions years ago. 152 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:58.000 That would be during the dinosaurs. And so it's fascinating 153 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:01.200 to listen to him, and he's not just casually talking 154 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:04.519 about he's showing the evidence. A lot of these discoveries 155 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:07.519 were made during the turn of the century, in the 156 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:12.600 late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds, and they're found in 157 00:10:12.679 --> 00:10:18.360 the coal mines or found in drill shafts coming up 158 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:22.799 from half a mile in earth and beyond. So it's 159 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:25.720 gonna be fun and I and also one of the 160 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:29.480 things we will talk about is the end of cali Yuga. 161 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:34.200 We're currently in cali Yuga, which ends this year apparently 162 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:38.759 two thousand and twenty five, and kind of extends itself 163 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:43.480 between now and twenty thirty, so we got five years. Now, 164 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:46.759 what does that mean. One of the things that has 165 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:50.519 been an issue is that a lot of prophecy is 166 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:53.480 that at the end of a cycle there is a 167 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:58.799 catastrophe or there's some form of destruction. And we'll learn 168 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:01.200 today I don't have to worry about that. But it's 169 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:06.360 more of a consciousness raising or a cognition growing and 170 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:12.279 preparing and evolving to this next level. So today's program 171 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:18.639 is Earth Realms from Antiquity, and my guest is Michael Kremo. 172 00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:23.480 You know, it's hard to get started when it's cold 173 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:25.360 outside and you don't want to get out of bed, 174 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:27.240 and then when you do get out of bed at 175 00:11:27.240 --> 00:11:29.759 you're groggy and you're thinking, I gotta have some coffee. 176 00:11:29.799 --> 00:11:32.720 I gotta have something to get me going. There's a 177 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:36.799 better alternative that I have been using now for a 178 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:40.240 number of months. It's called Magic Mind. 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So 211 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:12.279 much has been written about this book, so many people 212 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:16.759 reference it that it is it just it's a foundation 213 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:21.720 for a lot of questions we have about our ancient past. 214 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:25.039 And it's fun to have him on the program because 215 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:30.440 he's constantly writing about the past and he has an 216 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:35.639 Indian or Hindu influence that is profound. So Michael, welcome 217 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:37.480 to Earth Ancient is great to see you again. 218 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:42.120 Great to be with you, Cliffs and all your listeners 219 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:43.759 and yours. 220 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:47.759 I we touched on the Yugas last time you were 221 00:14:47.759 --> 00:14:51.639 on the program, and one of the things that I 222 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:55.200 wanted to talk about is they break the Yugas into 223 00:14:55.279 --> 00:15:02.360 four cycles. The most the earliest is the Sachya yoga 224 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:07.039 and the complete cycle of the Yugas is four million, 225 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:13.600 three hundred and twenty thousand years. And when we read this, 226 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:18.399 it's like, are they saying that human beings human like 227 00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:23.919 us lived during the earliest phases of the Satya or 228 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:28.639 the treatsa yoga yoga, which are considered I mean such 229 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:34.159 a yoga is considered the golden age of mankind. And 230 00:15:34.279 --> 00:15:39.200 in your book Forbidden in Archaeology, you actually show evidence 231 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:43.399 of human remains, modern human remains that are I think 232 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:44.559 a million years. 233 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:47.360 Old, right and older? 234 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:49.360 Wow? 235 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:58.639 So is there or have you found written references anything 236 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:02.720 that would give us a hint that this is an 237 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:06.480 actual possibility other than physical remains? 238 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:07.559 Is there? 239 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:07.759 Like? 240 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:09.279 I mean, because one of the things that I've come 241 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:14.000 across in my research is that it's a challenge when 242 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:20.679 we get beyond say, ten thousand years ago, fifteen thousand 243 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:25.960 years ago, because there's just nothing really defined. So how 244 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:32.919 do we go about tracing the Satya Yoga period and 245 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:37.720 the possibilities of a human being being living at that time. 246 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:43.799 Wow, that's a very good question, Cliff, and I think 247 00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:48.559 a lot depends upon our basic assumptions about the nature 248 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:52.399 of reality, how we look at the cosmos and our 249 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:59.639 place center and on this planet. Also, so, the Vedic 250 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:04.119 cosmology of ancient India, which is the source of this 251 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:10.440 Yuga concept, is a consciousness based universe. It's not a 252 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:15.759 mattered based universe. That means there's more to a human 253 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:20.359 being than just the bones and the flesh, the gross 254 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:25.319 material elements like iron and calcium and phosphorus and all 255 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:30.640 of that. There's a subtle mental body, you might say, 256 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:37.200 with very unusual powers like remote viewing and psychokinesis and 257 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:42.119 telepathy and things of that sort. And then beyond that 258 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:50.599 there's a conscious self and during these time cycles there 259 00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:56.279 are different types of human like beings. One piece of 260 00:17:56.279 --> 00:18:01.599 information that's given in the Piranhas the they did histories 261 00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:09.599 is that in Satya Yuga, the people were living for 262 00:18:09.680 --> 00:18:15.240 about one hundred thousand years. In the next yuga they 263 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:20.640 were living for about ten thousand years, and the third yuga, 264 00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:25.039 the Dwopera Yuga, they were living about a thousand years. 265 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:29.079 And in the color Yuga. The age we're in now, 266 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:35.039 we live about one hundred years maximum. So you see 267 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:39.839 signs of that from other religious texts. Also, the Bible 268 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:45.400 talks about people in ancient times who had lifetimes of 269 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:50.519 up to one thousand years, eight hundred and nine hundred years, 270 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:53.640 and things like that. But if you go back even 271 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:58.400 before those times, they would have been living even longer 272 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:05.000 periods of time. Also, well, do you want to make 273 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:07.160 this one point that you know, how do we get 274 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:10.960 knowledge about these things? One source is the record of 275 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:17.400 the rocks, but that is a very limited aspect of things. 276 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:21.759 You can have an archaeology of stones and bones, but 277 00:19:21.839 --> 00:19:26.240 you can also have an archaeology of consciousness where you 278 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:33.319 get dig deep into the mystical, spiritual sources of information. 279 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:38.880 So that's you know, you could say, the information that's 280 00:19:39.759 --> 00:19:47.720 left by these ancient civilizations is another source of information 281 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:53.160 beyond the stones and bones of the fossil record. So 282 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:58.400 they revealed that in the such a yoga. People were 283 00:19:58.759 --> 00:20:04.920 mostly very spiritually conscious, very aware of these things. They 284 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:09.359 lived in a very simple, natural way. They hadn't divided 285 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:20.559 themselves into different social classes. Everything was very highly refined 286 00:20:20.759 --> 00:20:26.200 in terms of their intellectual abilities, the mystic powers that 287 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:30.640 they had, their ability to get along with each other 288 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:34.960 and live with each other peacefully, and put most of 289 00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:41.680 their energy into developing that resource of consciousness. In the 290 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:46.519 next age to tray to Yuga, they began to divide 291 00:20:46.559 --> 00:20:50.720 themselves up into groups, and the lifetime was shorter ten 292 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:57.720 thousand years, and they began to divide themselves into social 293 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:08.440 classes intellectuals, military and government people, business people and an agriculturist, 294 00:21:10.279 --> 00:21:19.640 tradesmen and craftsmen, and things got a little bit tense, 295 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:22.680 you could say. By the time you get to the 296 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:27.079 next Uga, it's kind of broken out into open warfare, 297 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:34.000 and the lifetime gets shorter a thousand years, and things 298 00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:38.519 get more materialistic, and finally you come to our age, 299 00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:44.880 which is described as an age of ever increasing social 300 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:54.119 and environmental disturbance. You get a very short lifetime, very 301 00:21:54.359 --> 00:22:01.200 violent society, and the lifetime will get even shorter as 302 00:22:01.319 --> 00:22:04.960 the colored Yoga goes on. But then there'll be another 303 00:22:05.079 --> 00:22:11.000 subject yoga, so the system will rebuilt, you could say, 304 00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:19.599 so we as individual spirit souls, we may have been 305 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:25.400 going through these cycles for millions and millions and millions 306 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:27.640 of years. 307 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:36.599 Yeah, has anything, to your knowledge been saved from satya 308 00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:40.440 or treat to these earlier phases that you can mark 309 00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:43.720 and the examples I like you to define, And I 310 00:22:43.759 --> 00:22:47.559 think this is what I believe. I think yoga, the 311 00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:51.559 practice of yoga is far ancient than we far more 312 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:56.960 ancient than we believe. And also the practice of meditation 313 00:22:58.079 --> 00:23:01.960 seems to be an unders standing of human physiology, but 314 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:07.519 also its connection to the spiritual realms. So that doesn't 315 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:11.920 seem to be a Cali yoga practice or a dwarf 316 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:13.880 power it could. 317 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:15.039 I'm just curious. 318 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:19.039 Do you come across any writings that would define these 319 00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:22.920 advanced techniques to be human into. 320 00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:31.680 Yes? Yes, absolutely, And the subch meditation was considered to 321 00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:37.880 be the main form of self realization or God realization. 322 00:23:39.039 --> 00:23:44.759 And the next age where they had divided themselves up 323 00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:49.960 at the classes, they kind of got into what's called 324 00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:56.359 ritual or sacrifice, you know, elaborate arrangements that required a 325 00:23:56.400 --> 00:24:00.839 great deal of wealth, you know, So you had the 326 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:10.640 ruling class and society organizing these big arrangements, and you know, 327 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:14.480 so people could feel pious and contributing to them and 328 00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:20.519 attending these jung yas or sacrifices as they were called. 329 00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:30.519 And then in the next age it elaborate temple worship, 330 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:33.960 you know, making a structure, you know, like you have 331 00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:40.480 the Vatican in the role, you have the cathedrals throughout Europe, 332 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:46.319 you know, Buddhist temples in Asia and things like that. 333 00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:50.839 That became the main thing. But in this age of college, 334 00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:59.799 there's according to the tradition that I follow anyways, the 335 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:09.119 the main way of keeping oneself spiritually situated is mantra meditation, 336 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:16.200 the sound of sacred sounds. We all like to hear things, 337 00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:25.119 but if we can focus our hearing on these mantras. 338 00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:29.039 Mantra is a Sanskrit word. It means lawn is the 339 00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:33.640 mind and trump means to deliver. So you can kind 340 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:39.599 of focus your mind on these higher things by mautra meditation. 341 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:42.880 And what does that do to the brain, Because I 342 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:48.559 actually practice mantra meditation, But does that harmonize the brain 343 00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:54.279 to receive the higher information or connect with the higher realms? 344 00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:54.880 What does that do. 345 00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:58.759 Well, it's exactly what you just said. It does all 346 00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:04.160 those things, and there have been studies, medical studies and 347 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:10.160 psychological studies of the effects of it that there are, 348 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:18.039 uh you could say, side benefits and in addition to 349 00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:26.440 its internal spiritual effects, it does seem to uh harmonize 350 00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:33.079 people with each other and their environment. So there have 351 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:37.240 been studies on the effects of montra meditation. 352 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:41.480 You know, it's funny, Mike, Michael. You mentioned at the 353 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:48.519 beginning about sechya yoga a suit ya setya you guys, 354 00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:56.039 excuse me, and paranormal abilities, And in the Maya book 355 00:26:56.759 --> 00:27:01.640 of Cuichi Theo, they just in the very beginning that 356 00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:08.160 their ancestors could see great distance without leaving their space 357 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:10.000 kind of. I think that's the same as you would 358 00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:19.640 consider by locating. And they could also perceive other dimensions, 359 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:24.599 and it seems like they're describing a very advanced human being. 360 00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:34.720 Oh. Absolutely. In the Piranhas there are descriptions of some 361 00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:39.519 of these mystic powers, and the one that you're talking 362 00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:46.039 about is called door darshan, the ability to see things 363 00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:51.279 at a distance. And actually that's the name of the 364 00:27:51.279 --> 00:28:02.440 Indian government's national television network. Really darshan you see it 365 00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:07.359 in a distance. In modern terms, it's often called remote viewing 366 00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:12.559 and apparently sat ability that we all have. Actually, I 367 00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:17.640 think our modern technologies like smartphones and things like that 368 00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:26.880 are our effort to reduplicate what abilities people naturally had 369 00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:34.559 and exercised in previous ages. But it's just being presented 370 00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:41.599 to us in a commercialized way that can monetize it 371 00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:48.119 for people. But yeah, I mean, I've participated in remote 372 00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:52.640 you any experiments, and you know, I tend to believe 373 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:57.039 in these things. But once I was with Rupert Sheldrake 374 00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:02.720 and we were in Montreal and a conference that Steven 375 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:07.319 Schwartz was also speaking at, and he was one of 376 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:15.400 the original investigators with the Stanford Research Institute that was 377 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:21.440 contracted by the United States government intelligence agencies in the 378 00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:28.039 nineteen seventies to do remote viewing experiments as part of 379 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:35.920 gathering intelligence about the Soviet Union. And he kind of 380 00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:41.799 led a little workshop that I attended with the Rupert 381 00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:47.960 Sheldrake and he sent some people away from the workshop, 382 00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.200 told him to go anywhere they want in Montreal and 383 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.839 when they get there, just try to mentally send an 384 00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:01.720 image of the place back to us. In the hotel, 385 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:06.680 and he gave them a video camera and told him 386 00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:10.240 to take pictures and shoot some video of the place. 387 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:15.039 So they went and then we did the remote viewing exercise. 388 00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:19.880 He just said, write down whatever imagery comes into your mind, 389 00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:24.920 don't think about it, don't edit it, just put it down. 390 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:28.039 So the first image that came to my mind was 391 00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:33.920 candle flames and red glass folders. So later the people 392 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.119 come back, they show the tape and the first image 393 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:41.920 that cups on the screen is candle flames and red 394 00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:49.200 glass holders. You know, they kind of gone to the 395 00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:55.839 cathedral in Montreal, and you know, so I kind of 396 00:30:55.960 --> 00:31:02.599 was able to detect that. And actually, uh, of course 397 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:07.920 you we were asked to, uh, write down what do 398 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:10.359 we see when we look up when we look down 399 00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:14.440 to the lab. Yeah, and a lot of people have 400 00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:22.000 got it basically correct, so you know, it's it's it's interesting. 401 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:31.920