Speaker 1: Well, here we are. We made that. Let me pull
Speaker 1: John in now running crazy hitting here. John said he
Speaker 1: heard the sigh when I sat down.
Speaker 2: We are here.
Speaker 1: Welcome. I have my sweaty sweatshirt on here. John, we've
Speaker 1: been sprinting. But we are here today talking UFL. Week
Speaker 1: two was really fifty to fifty on if this was
Speaker 1: going to happen today or not. John and I will
Speaker 1: get into more of that later. So things going on
Speaker 1: around the league right now. My demeanor is changing. We'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll get to it. That could be a
Speaker 1: tease for later. We'll talk through, you know, the week two. Here,
Speaker 1: we have Mike Mitchell's TV ratings from Friday, we have attendance.
Speaker 1: We'll talk through all the games and then we'll do
Speaker 1: all that because I know people come here for football
Speaker 1: first and foremost, and then we'll get through all that.
Speaker 1: But we'll see episode next week. We'll see do I
Speaker 1: have lint on my hat? We're doing the best we can.
Speaker 2: You're clean?
Speaker 1: How are you? John? Welcome to the show, John Lewis,
Speaker 1: John Lewis Sports. I even tagged you on the YouTube
Speaker 1: descriptions day. Oh, hopefully you can find your channel. How
Speaker 1: are you starting so kind.
Speaker 2: I'm doing well. Man. We've made it through two weeks here,
Speaker 2: and you know what's funny something I was thinking about today.
Speaker 2: We have not had any talks about labor strife. It's
Speaker 2: like that issue kind of went away. I'm still wondering,
Speaker 2: you know, what's going on with that. But I don't
Speaker 2: want to start on a negative point here. We saw
Speaker 2: some good football this week. We saw some bad football
Speaker 2: this week, if that's what the UFL is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, did we see good football? John?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to start. I don't want
Speaker 1: to start there. I had a lot of fun because really, truly,
Speaker 1: you know, we were busy Friday Saturday. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: catch up. Was able to sit and watch the games yesterday,
Speaker 1: text with you, text with the group chat, and that
Speaker 1: does kind of excite me. This is why I do this.
Speaker 1: I'm serious, it is very much. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: get a lot of it, as I'm sure you as well,
Speaker 1: talking with the wife about the games and stuff. So
Speaker 1: when I'm able to talk with like the boys, you know,
Speaker 1: and you and Mike and Pat kind of gets me
Speaker 1: more excited about all that. But yeah, I do here says,
Speaker 1: is your demeanor going to go from bad? Absolutely? Ah,
Speaker 1: stay tuned. That is a spoiler and this is real
Speaker 1: actionable stuff. Yeah, John, I guess we'll do Mike's breaking
Speaker 1: news here first. But can you grade UFL week two here?
Speaker 1: A Week one came off a little short. We talked
Speaker 1: through TV ratings last week. You can go back and
Speaker 1: football gameplay and all of that. I'm still fighting the
Speaker 1: cole apologize for that. What did you make grade wise?
Speaker 1: If excuse the UFO we two.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll give it a song. Let see, and
Speaker 2: only because there were some f There was an F
Speaker 2: game or two here, but there was you know, there
Speaker 2: were some A games as well. So I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: I think when you've got this is I don't want
Speaker 2: to say a top heavy league because I don't know
Speaker 2: that there's a clear favor in right now. I know
Speaker 2: Saint Louis is playing the best football so far in
Speaker 2: two weeks here, and we know who's playing the worst
Speaker 2: and its Houston. I mean that's no secret. Uh, but
Speaker 2: it feels like of those other seven, even with Memphis
Speaker 2: being zero and two, that is such a It's a
Speaker 2: completely different team. There's so much better. So I just
Speaker 2: think it's exciting right now. So I mean when I
Speaker 2: say see that it was, was it an average week?
Speaker 2: I mean maybe, uh, but I'm like kind of optimistic
Speaker 2: on this could be more of an open There's no,
Speaker 2: it's not top heavy. I think there are seven contenders
Speaker 2: in this league at least after week two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we have I have a couple of comments
Speaker 1: here to kind of help driving this discussion that I
Speaker 1: have an email as well from fourth and Long on
Speaker 1: the on the All Football dot Com. Just a quick
Speaker 1: plug for that Allfootball dot Com for all your CFL
Speaker 1: and UFL and Arina. So obviously a lot of UFL
Speaker 1: stuff right now, but I'll pull that up later as
Speaker 1: well to kind of gauge our discussions around that. And
Speaker 1: I think I have a couple of bookmarks Saviot as well.
Speaker 1: Are you are you sensing the apathy that fan apathy
Speaker 1: that seems to be able. I'll pull Mike article up
Speaker 1: here to kind of gauge that. But you know, down
Speaker 1: a little bit over last week. We were underwhelmed by
Speaker 1: the Friday night kickoff last week overall, and then this
Speaker 1: week down even over that.
Speaker 2: Well right now, if I'm not mistaken, the women's NCAA tournament,
Speaker 2: it was having wreck almost record ratings. I mean, nothing
Speaker 2: will probably be last year, but it was right up there,
Speaker 2: I think top three or four. So when you're going
Speaker 2: up against that, you're going up against the final four.
Speaker 2: And to be honest with you, one of the one
Speaker 2: of the games, I think it was the DC game,
Speaker 2: was going up against the final four, and that was
Speaker 2: my second screen. My second screen was the was the
Speaker 2: UFL game, and my you know, my main screen was,
Speaker 2: uh was the Final Four. But I think that's why
Speaker 2: we're that's why we're going to start seeing some you know,
Speaker 2: hopefully better ratings, especially on Friday Night, because this third
Speaker 2: week to me, is going to be pivotal as far
Speaker 2: as rating steals because there's no major competition that I've
Speaker 2: seen in the sports world.
Speaker 1: Well and yeah, sorry not to jump on there that
Speaker 1: that is my concern and I will I made the
Speaker 1: joke on Twitter. But on the Sunday game, it was
Speaker 1: you know, the that dreadful Arlington, the Renegades and Roughnecks
Speaker 1: going up against you know, Alexandrovechkins, who there was did
Speaker 1: you know broke the NHL all time scoring record. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously East Coast game midday Sunday game for the NHL
Speaker 1: here even going up against and that's when I tweeted out,
Speaker 1: we hear all this all the time. Well, why the
Speaker 1: UFL do this, or why Saint Louis open this day
Speaker 1: or why like you could schedule a game for noon
Speaker 1: eastern on a Sunday and you're like, how could you
Speaker 1: ever know that you're going up against you know, the
Speaker 1: greatest sport feat of this time. You know, we kind
Speaker 1: of lived through Lebron's thing and then this. You know,
Speaker 1: there'll be other things, but you really can't avoid it.
Speaker 1: It kind of no matter where you go there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: six times fifty nine thousand viewers on that down from
Speaker 1: six to ninety the week before this weekend, John Willby
Speaker 1: WrestleMania Weekend. I know that we were talking about things
Speaker 1: going up again, so obviously not on traditional cable that way.
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking out loud. I'm not trying to call
Speaker 1: you up.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I forgot about regains again next week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so yes, I mean so that is that's
Speaker 2: something too. You know, you're right, It's just that wasn't
Speaker 2: a huge surprise to see it go down, you know,
Speaker 2: at least it. I mean, the bottom didn't drop out.
Speaker 2: But next week it's got to be better than this
Speaker 2: on Friday night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is my concern that we were talking
Speaker 1: about all this even before we got on here. Spring
Speaker 1: League championship game midday Fox Saturday drew four hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty thousand viewers for the championship game. So put in
Speaker 1: context of whether Brian's I woulds run out of his
Speaker 1: garage with cardboard box, Football League drew that. You know,
Speaker 1: so I so to me when you you know, and
Speaker 1: I agree with all this, you don't, you know, you
Speaker 1: wanted to be to be down with all that. But
Speaker 1: but Fox Friday is just there's just numbers built into this,
Speaker 1: these diary the Nielsen everything is not exact on that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I used to work and I tell all
Speaker 1: this for people that did not maybe follow through last season.
Speaker 1: I used to work in local news. I worked in Bakersfield, California.
Speaker 1: We were small market news town. John knows very well.
Speaker 1: John's worked in local news knows very well. And in
Speaker 1: our station would live and die off of diaries that
Speaker 1: people would fill out in journals that they would literally
Speaker 1: write in. I watched NBC this day and so you know,
Speaker 1: the week before the books came in, you'd run a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff and hope that the last thing people
Speaker 1: thought about was just My point is, it's not an
Speaker 1: exact science. I think Fox bakes in a base number
Speaker 1: on this and we'll go up. I cannot imagine that
Speaker 1: that is an insightful look on that. But who am
Speaker 1: I to say. I think going down week one to
Speaker 1: week two. Week one is always going to be your peak.
Speaker 1: I think in that. And my last thought is, as
Speaker 1: you said here, in week three and four, maybe the
Speaker 1: competition opens up, but my feeling is at that point,
Speaker 1: the audience has lost the product. Right. We saw this
Speaker 1: in USFL Season one peaked really high in twenty two.
Speaker 1: We talked a lot about the poor gameplay, the rush
Speaker 1: training camps and all of that. The rest of the
Speaker 1: games that first weekend weren't very good and the Radians
Speaker 1: were never able to recover. Because when you get the
Speaker 1: most amount of people to sample the product, especially in
Speaker 1: these leagues like we saw this weekend, where you have
Speaker 1: a lot of well scoring at fairs, you're not going
Speaker 1: to get them to come back time and time again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, and a bill brings up a good
Speaker 2: point too. Masters. This is weekend, so if there's a
Speaker 2: if there's some competition, it would it would be that
Speaker 2: because you know, there are a lot of times even
Speaker 2: the casual fans, you know, like Ovechkin. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: not an NHL fan, but I was keeping my eye
Speaker 2: on that as well. Uh, you know, and then Masters
Speaker 2: is one of those events that you know brings in
Speaker 2: anyone who's half interested in sports. But you're right, and
Speaker 2: that that's my concern when we saw the schedule come
Speaker 2: out and you and I talked about it on here
Speaker 2: is do you really want to start off your this
Speaker 2: new franchise Friday night thing at Houston and they followed
Speaker 2: up at Michigan Because you know, the optics are not
Speaker 2: going to be good. You hope the gameplay is good
Speaker 2: so people will buy in. But I'm not I'm not
Speaker 2: sure they did. But again, the UFL is that I
Speaker 2: think they've done a really good job with advertising and
Speaker 2: you know, trying to get the word out not just
Speaker 2: nationally but also in some of these communities. I don't
Speaker 2: know why it's not connecting in some but you know,
Speaker 2: I will say what we need I think what we
Speaker 2: need to see Friday from Fox especially is there's there's
Speaker 2: not going to be a major competition at eight o'clock
Speaker 2: Eastern times, so again those numbers have to pop up.
Speaker 1: Some last thing for me on this and and just
Speaker 1: we'll do some more because I do want to get
Speaker 1: to football. Excuse me here before we get out to
Speaker 1: all this. But one thing I was kind of pleased about,
Speaker 1: and of course I had it pinned and then I
Speaker 1: deleted that. Let me pull it back on here. But
Speaker 1: I was kind of you know, I was watching the
Speaker 1: game yesterday and John was laughing, and he goes, man,
Speaker 1: you're really on the heater with all these tweets, like
Speaker 1: go whilely, this is a really busy time. We didn't
Speaker 1: even know if we were doing the show today. I
Speaker 1: got to fly to Orlando tomorrow for work all week
Speaker 1: and then we are going for pleasure next week to
Speaker 1: Vegas and wrestle mating and all that. It's just it's
Speaker 1: a busy time. I do the best I can. But
Speaker 1: I'm watching the game yesterday and I see, you know,
Speaker 1: we're interviewing Luis Prez. They're showing the highlights of the
Speaker 1: beer Snake, and they not only talked about Louis press
Speaker 1: in the game. We have like an interstitial with him
Speaker 1: on the commercial break, we've been talking about the book,
Speaker 1: you know, and then obviously that the football has played
Speaker 1: in the spring, and I just said, you know, I
Speaker 1: love the Luis spres, I love the beer Snake, I
Speaker 1: love the UFL's football that's played in the spring. But
Speaker 1: we need some other ideas here. I was, you know,
Speaker 1: didn't even think about Jordan Rogers like that. So hey,
Speaker 1: Jordan Rodgers, you know, part of this broadcast even all that, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't like Aaron Rodgers. I don't know
Speaker 1: if Aaron Rodgers will be liking any of my tweets
Speaker 1: anytime soon, but I will take the estrange Jordan Rogers
Speaker 1: on that. But I do like again, and and this
Speaker 1: isn't week two of I mean, this is like this
Speaker 1: year two now we're trying to get people I don't know.
Speaker 1: To me, it just feels like we've got four bullet
Speaker 1: points that we can talk about betting the Lions with
Speaker 1: Aaron on ESPN and all that. We'll do the individual games.
Speaker 1: But to me right now, as a casual, I would
Speaker 1: really have If I was a casual, I would have
Speaker 1: a hard time recommending with someone to go watch one
Speaker 1: of these games.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Yeah, I mean you and I talked last
Speaker 2: week about the Fox presentation. You know, kurtin Minafee busted
Speaker 2: a Dean Kane instead of Dion Kanes, like we superman
Speaker 2: out there. I mean, and it's just like, I don't
Speaker 2: think the presentation is that is that great. I love
Speaker 2: Joel Klatt, Like Joel Clatt to me, not only is
Speaker 2: he and we've said it before, it's like you learn
Speaker 2: thanks from him. He's also doing clean up duty, trying
Speaker 2: to correct what Kurt Menafee continues to say on on
Speaker 2: these Fox broad cast. Yeah, and as our as our
Speaker 2: man Tanner there sending the comments he said destroyer. Someone
Speaker 2: get to Connor Onion, who I love the guy, but
Speaker 2: it's destroying, it's not kept calling him, kept calling him destroyer.
Speaker 2: There was that, and but yeah, it's like, what are
Speaker 2: you trying to sell to a casual fan right now?
Speaker 2: Because you know, this past week, like I said, it
Speaker 2: was kind of a c average. So if you're watching
Speaker 2: that football especially you know, if you tune into the
Speaker 2: Arlington game, I mean you know that was kind of
Speaker 2: a televised abortion there for about three quarters until it
Speaker 2: you know, kind of picked up in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: So it's like it's hard to kind of sell those
Speaker 2: kinds of things to casual fans, especially ones who are
Speaker 2: trying to fill a football need. And then it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: the NFL is over, I'm gonna give this a try,
Speaker 2: and it's you know, it's a little slow out of
Speaker 2: the gate for now. If you were watching, you know
Speaker 2: you did watch that the the BattleHawks game if you
Speaker 2: found it on f S one after the NASCAR race,
Speaker 2: I mean you saw some good You saw Saint Louis
Speaker 2: team that plays really well, So I mean that was
Speaker 2: that was some high caliber football from them.
Speaker 1: Let's say, are just real quick football fan and becoming
Speaker 1: a member I think was a member of Jointed back
Speaker 1: guy heereer remember nine sent some month goes to support
Speaker 1: the channel for all that. Yeah, because guy, your Doug,
Speaker 1: I wish you would get too busy covering the UFL.
Speaker 1: Glad you hit her dog. I'll show you the twenty
Speaker 1: four dollars heading and YouTube as sts we got versus
Speaker 1: what I build a fly over night to Miami last
Speaker 1: week for work, and we will decide which is the
Speaker 1: better use. I will tell you what my wife. My
Speaker 1: wife thinks, especially with her friend getting married in France
Speaker 1: this year, so we have a lot of I have
Speaker 1: to work. We were playing the fortieth birthday party from
Speaker 1: my Life John. It's really like my full time job
Speaker 1: is just supporting my wife a little bit right now,
Speaker 1: A little bit.
Speaker 2: It's good, it should be.
Speaker 1: Come on, it's good. All right, So let's talk through
Speaker 1: all this. We'll get comments, and then I do have
Speaker 1: a rant at the end, so I promise for all
Speaker 1: that stuff. Panthers, Stallions, Stallions, come back here Friday night,
Speaker 1: ford Field, and we'll let's let's do this, let's talk
Speaker 1: through the games, and we'll bounce back and forth with
Speaker 1: Mike at tendants here because I don't want to do
Speaker 1: all that. But I do have a comment on this
Speaker 1: in a minute. What did you make of this game
Speaker 1: ford Field hosting Friday night?
Speaker 2: Well, there were ten thousand people there. I mean that's
Speaker 2: the official thing we got, right. Did you see ten
Speaker 2: thousand people in the standards not outside?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I just thought, you know, when your kicker is your
Speaker 2: offense there for a while, and your starting quarterback goes
Speaker 2: out in the you know, first quarter, it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, what is this going to be and then
Speaker 2: Matt corral started to kind of get hot there in
Speaker 2: the second half, which there are a lot of naysayers there.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they were ready to bench Alex.
Speaker 2: A lot of Stallions fans were ready to bench Alex
Speaker 2: Magoo after that game last week and on and frankly,
Speaker 2: it's like that argument gets bolstered after what you saw
Speaker 2: out of Matt Corrall. Now, there were some shaky passes.
Speaker 2: There were a few that there were at least two
Speaker 2: that I remember that were very close to being pick sixes.
Speaker 2: But man, I mean he ended up looking good. He
Speaker 2: did throw a couple of picks, you know, and you
Speaker 2: know what we saw from Bryce Perkins, Like, you know,
Speaker 2: they weren't out of it, and I mean, Norther should
Speaker 2: they be. But it just feels like Birmingham has their number, Like,
Speaker 2: no matter what happens, Birmingham and Skip Holtz and that
Speaker 2: team finds a way to beat Michigan.
Speaker 1: To me, and and part of this is just because
Speaker 1: the Stallions have have the most you know, I would
Speaker 1: say cash a just in terms of the Multi Age
Speaker 1: Championship wins and kind of all that stuff. But I
Speaker 1: do feel like I see more mainstream people tweeting about
Speaker 1: Matt Carrall tweeting about Alex macgoo covering this his Stallions.
Speaker 1: So that's great. You want the Sallions to be good obviously,
Speaker 1: Uh this forward field thing, We'll get to all of that.
Speaker 1: But do you like, did the Panthers have any momentum here?
Speaker 1: I guess just trying to kind of figure out I
Speaker 1: don't know, the USFL conference kind of versus XFL here
Speaker 1: and kind of what we're making are the Panthers they
Speaker 1: weren't they second last year in the division, Like what
Speaker 1: do we make of this? And then hey, look at
Speaker 1: this for Mark has callback? But do they have upside here?
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, Oh, I think they do. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think what's not really to like about Bryce Perkins?
Speaker 2: Don't take anything away from Birmingham's defense because that defense,
Speaker 2: you know, we talk about offense all the time. Birmingham's
Speaker 2: defense is really good, So don't take anything away from that.
Speaker 2: But I think, you know, what we saw from Bryce
Speaker 2: Perkins in week one and what we saw a little
Speaker 2: bit in week two here, I mean, he's playing a
Speaker 2: good defense. I think Michigan absolutely has plenty of upside now.
Speaker 2: I dropped him a little bit. My power rankings that
Speaker 2: will be on All Football dot Com here, and you
Speaker 2: know Greg Parks is putting that together and kind of
Speaker 2: taling all our votes. But that's a snapshot of the week.
Speaker 2: So I think there's plenty of upside. I certainly am
Speaker 2: not counting out Michigan Panthers right now.
Speaker 1: King William Michigan would have a momentum if they stopped
Speaker 1: playing two quarterbacks system. We see that a lot and
Speaker 1: early on I mean even last week, right they were
Speaker 1: talking with no one about all that. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: still early. You don't know, and this isn't the NFL
Speaker 1: where everyone's all right, I don't know what. I'm curious
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that, because I see both sides in
Speaker 1: the CFL does this as well.
Speaker 2: I can see that. Uh to me, it's I mean,
Speaker 2: let's look at Manny Wilkins, you know, it's it felt
Speaker 2: like the BattleHawks were going to come in with a
Speaker 2: two quarterback system, and you know, and it didn't happen
Speaker 2: because Manny Wilkins continues to play. He's such a dual
Speaker 2: threat and he's such a good quarterback that Anthony Beck
Speaker 2: is not going to take him Uh, he's not going
Speaker 2: to take him out of the game to run a
Speaker 2: two quarterback system. If Mike Nolan feels that's the way
Speaker 2: and maybe runs the packages, you know, I guess, but
Speaker 2: I can, like you said, I can see it both ways.
Speaker 2: This is not in the NFL they say if you
Speaker 2: if you have two quarterbacks, you don't have any I
Speaker 2: believe that to an extent on any level. But you know,
Speaker 2: I give the Michigan Panthers and the coaches who want
Speaker 2: to run two quarterbacks a little bit of a break here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Gy just talking TV ratings in the chat.
Speaker 1: It's covering that off. Appreciate that, certainly do, because I
Speaker 1: know it definitely comes in. I didn't even really this
Speaker 1: is just the day that kind of works for John
Speaker 1: and I, especially the last couple of weeks with me
Speaker 1: going out on Tuesdays. I would like to do it
Speaker 1: Tuesday when we have all of the ratings. I just
Speaker 1: think it makes for a more worthwhile conversation. But we
Speaker 1: just haven't had time. But luckily Mike's been able to
Speaker 1: get at least back to back here these weeks, so
Speaker 1: we'll see. We'll figure out. I mean, this isn't like
Speaker 1: a forever thing. But we're I appreciate John's schedule hopping
Speaker 1: on here and all of that. The two quarterback system,
Speaker 1: and we could talk through any of these teams or
Speaker 1: anything that it goes to this. You know, what is
Speaker 1: this league? Right? If I'm a coach of a team,
Speaker 1: Am I trying to develop players? Am I trying to win?
Speaker 1: Am I trying to get the most of my players
Speaker 1: to the NFL? Like I would say any coach you
Speaker 1: asked there, I mean, we know what coach back that
Speaker 1: said a couple of years ago. You know, my goal
Speaker 1: is to get everyone to the NFL. Well, if you
Speaker 1: have the option between being, you know, playing the best
Speaker 1: quarterback to win the championship game, I just feel like
Speaker 1: you get into this, I would be curious with that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would feel like the two quarterback system.
Speaker 1: Are we trying to develop more of that in an
Speaker 1: attempt to win? But yeah, than when the game's on
Speaker 1: the line, you're not gonna It's hard. It's a hard balance,
Speaker 1: Like what is this league? Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? I mean you are? You do walk a line.
Speaker 2: It's something that all of these coaches, like you said
Speaker 2: Anthony Beck skip Holtz, it's uh, you know, Bob stoops
Speaker 2: even it's like, you know, my my goal is to
Speaker 2: develop these players. But you know, where do you draw
Speaker 2: the line of I need to develop this guy. I'm
Speaker 2: going to put him in this tough situation here in
Speaker 2: crunch time. Are you going to do that and risk
Speaker 2: a game? I don't think so. Not in the I mean,
Speaker 2: this is still a competitive league, especially when you just
Speaker 2: have eight teams, So I don't think that there's so
Speaker 2: I think coaches do have to kind of figure out
Speaker 2: walking that great area of we want to develop, but
Speaker 2: also you know, we want to win these games because
Speaker 2: if we start winning games and put a good product
Speaker 2: on the field, you hope that fans will show up
Speaker 2: and people will watch on television.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of get we we're living through that
Speaker 1: right now. The Mariners and Dan Wilson and we had.
Speaker 1: We're getting a lot of like, let's play some of
Speaker 1: the guy. You know, we're still early in this season.
Speaker 1: We're trying to kind of figure out, Okay, let's pinch
Speaker 1: hit this guy. But then every time it's bottom of
Speaker 1: the ninth and then that guy's back up to bat again.
Speaker 1: You go, God, I sure wish we you know, excuse me,
Speaker 1: wish we could have gone back on that. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I might. I might disgro off camera for a second
Speaker 1: to just blow my nose just because it's so disgusting. John,
Speaker 1: do you want to wait, let's go through this just
Speaker 1: super quick. We'll finish the game here. But yeah, the
Speaker 1: ten thousand in Michigan and then I'm doua below here.
Speaker 1: I always have that as well, this kind of the
Speaker 1: conference breakdowns and the outliers with Saint Louis and otherwise.
Speaker 1: But I mean, if they're just gonna lie about I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not a lie. It's distributed tickets, but I mean
Speaker 1: there's not so that's just the number. Now I'm not
Speaker 1: going to freak out about that. But I'm also not
Speaker 1: going to like count these as the win here because
Speaker 1: DC thirteen thousand is normally closer to seventeen eighteen. So like,
Speaker 1: there's never been ten thousand souls ever in Michigan when
Speaker 1: any of these teams have played. So if you want to,
Speaker 1: maybe they're just maybe they're sending them to a school
Speaker 1: and saying here's five thousand, you know, here's five hundred
Speaker 1: tickets for your students to go and then they go,
Speaker 1: we'll see we distributed the tickets. It depends on that.
Speaker 1: I know, curious your thoughts on that, Like this, just
Speaker 1: that feels like an outlier high where it almost feels
Speaker 1: like that's disingenuous and I'm gonna go blow my house
Speaker 1: beer back.
Speaker 2: Okay, No, I'll agree with you. And you know I've
Speaker 2: seen in Saint Louis. You know, they said they were
Speaker 2: thirty two thousand people there, but we saw a lot
Speaker 2: of empty seats that were, you know, in that lower bowl.
Speaker 2: I remember, you know, I've gone to a couple of
Speaker 2: Saint Louis games, especially last year, and when they said
Speaker 2: there were thirty two, thirty three thousand whatever, the whole
Speaker 2: lower bowl, you didn't see a lot of empty seats.
Speaker 2: So but I think this does happen, you know, to
Speaker 2: Read's point, a lot of the times these are distributed tickets,
Speaker 2: These are sponsors who are probably given a block of
Speaker 2: tickets as part of some kind of sponsorship opportunity. So
Speaker 2: if you know, if the Mark Cast is sponsoring you know,
Speaker 2: the the Memphis Showboats, and they say a part of
Speaker 2: this sponsorship deal is you're gonna get signage and you're
Speaker 2: gonna get this, you're gonna get an in game announcement,
Speaker 2: but you're also going to going to get a block
Speaker 2: of five hundred tickets. You know, are are who's going
Speaker 2: to use those five hundred tickets? I mean, you and
Speaker 2: I have both worked for TV stations. You know how
Speaker 2: many times somebody will say, hey, we uh, as part
Speaker 2: of our sponsorship deal, they've given us these thirty tickets
Speaker 2: or whatever. If it does anybody want them? And then
Speaker 2: you'll see, like you know, back in the physical ticket
Speaker 2: they they'd be posted up on the bullet the board somewhere.
Speaker 2: So so that's tickets distributed versus people who actually show up.
Speaker 2: And I think that's that's what you see a lot
Speaker 2: of the times when you see some of these numbers
Speaker 2: when the eyeball test tells you that wasn't what was
Speaker 2: in the stadium that night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I don't want to live on this,
Speaker 1: but like my feeling, at least on the Michigan now
Speaker 1: is if that's how they're going to play that, I'm
Speaker 1: just not going to freak out every week of like, wow,
Speaker 1: that's really And I see comments in the child like
Speaker 1: they're on the rice. Okay, I mean that that's what
Speaker 1: they want, right the perceptions reality. It annoys me where
Speaker 1: that's just accepted now, right, like it's just accepted like oh,
Speaker 1: we you know, we it's it's ten thousand, it's ten thousand,
Speaker 1: we said, you know, it's like the chock. Think anything else.
Speaker 1: So Stallion's looking great, right, obviously, Panthers anything else? It
Speaker 1: takeaways of that of the Friday night game, I will
Speaker 1: pull up something else there.
Speaker 2: Well, the one thing I'm I'm going to be interested
Speaker 2: in to see like if Alex Magoo is not as injured.
Speaker 2: You know, he said he said that his shoulder came
Speaker 2: out of socket. Now whether that was really the case
Speaker 2: or not, I don't know. But it's going to be
Speaker 2: interesting what kind of quarterback decision And as we say,
Speaker 2: two weeks in a row now, it'll be interesting to
Speaker 2: see the quarterback decision that skip Holtz makes.
Speaker 1: Well and yeah, and how how bad do you gauge
Speaker 1: that injury? I guess is that a long term concern?
Speaker 2: Well, as they said during the broadcast, and you've you've
Speaker 2: seen it a lot on every level of football. Sometimes
Speaker 2: you have to save players from themselves. All yeah, I'm fine,
Speaker 2: I can go in there. But if skip Holtz kept
Speaker 2: telling Alex Magoo, you know, just be smart with this thing,
Speaker 2: and I know it seemed like he was pretty upset
Speaker 2: that he wasn't back in the game. So if if
Speaker 2: a player tells you that his shoulder popped out a socket,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you're a head coach, you really
Speaker 2: want to hear that and say, yeah, I'm going to
Speaker 2: put you back in because it's pretty important game we're
Speaker 2: playing right here.
Speaker 1: No, I totally get that. Yeah, protecting players from themselves.
Speaker 1: We see the said even even in baseball, with all
Speaker 1: that abdu all, they need to get a lot more responsor.
Speaker 1: I like that. You tickets right, well, No, like to
Speaker 1: your point, we used to. I when I worked at
Speaker 1: the Fox station here, we would get tickets to the
Speaker 1: Piatte Fair and they go, here's one hundred tickets right
Speaker 1: for family and friends, and they're good, you know, and
Speaker 1: maybe for the UFL it's this game or that game whatever,
Speaker 1: but you know they count that as Hey, these are
Speaker 1: tickets out whatever, go into all that. All right, So
Speaker 1: the one Saturday game, and I like, this is just
Speaker 1: my thing. I'm sitting around here all day. We have Dorothy,
Speaker 1: my wife's school school auction her alma mother from high school?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it still your alma mother if it's
Speaker 1: just your high school like, so sure, right, okay, you're
Speaker 1: off the lot going. So I'm like, of course I'm
Speaker 1: sitting around her all day, nothing to do. But of
Speaker 1: course games on at five conduct here later Defenders, you
Speaker 1: know here, big time show boats fall again, right, Ken's
Speaker 1: back everything. We're kind of figuring all that out. What
Speaker 1: do you make of the show boats here? I.
Speaker 2: Like I said earlier, I think that this is a
Speaker 2: much improved team. Is there such thing as the best
Speaker 2: oh and two team? I don't know, uh, but you
Speaker 2: look at like e J. Perry there, like that his
Speaker 2: connection with Jonathan Adams. I think Jonathan Adams ended up
Speaker 2: with let me see, about one hundred and twenty eight
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty yards receiving here out of the two
Speaker 2: hundred and five, So that connection is working.
Speaker 1: I like e J.
Speaker 2: Perry in this you know, in this system. Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: d C they looked a little rough. If I'm a
Speaker 2: DC Defenders fan, I'm a little worried about playing at
Speaker 2: the BattleHawks this weekend because I you know, even though
Speaker 2: they won the game, they won against a you know,
Speaker 2: a win list. Now you know, oh and two team,
Speaker 2: but still a much improved Memphis show Boats team. And
Speaker 2: I think Ken wizen Hunt coming back is probably maybe
Speaker 2: you know, the waters were a little choppy there in
Speaker 2: the in in the first game, and you understand because
Speaker 2: it seems so sudden, but man, I just really feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, if they've got the talent to make this
Speaker 2: a with a better showing this year, and I think
Speaker 2: we saw a little bit of that at d C.
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting here, right Obviously you had in Ken's back,
Speaker 1: we had the the you know, the battle of the
Speaker 1: two teams here with the head coaches, and d C
Speaker 1: is such a different situation where we're a lot of that.
Speaker 1: I think they'll be leeviing. You know, I'm curious with
Speaker 1: d C is after the season with all of that,
Speaker 1: but I'm curious, you know, And we'll talk at tendants.
Speaker 1: But you know, d C was so bad last year.
Speaker 1: I wonder like fan apathy with that and then now
Speaker 1: where they're back. D C is a great franchise. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the temple franchises for the UFL.
Speaker 1: So you want them to be good that way, you
Speaker 1: say you're concerned about them going into Birmingham. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I think you need d C to be hot from
Speaker 1: the XFL side, because certainly Birmingham, I mean, yeah, you'll
Speaker 1: have a lot of you have a lot of other
Speaker 1: options here with with the San Antolio every been else.
Speaker 2: When uh DC goes into uh into Sanate, I mean,
Speaker 2: uh into Saint Louis this coming weekend, I believe that's
Speaker 2: what it is. So yeah, I mean, if I'm an,
Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm a DC fan, I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: a little worried about that because it just felt like
Speaker 2: that offense was stagnant. And again, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: think Ken wizen Hunt is into moral victories, but uh,
Speaker 2: to me, he got one. Uh and that team's just
Speaker 2: going to improve.
Speaker 1: How is how is our boy Jordan looking here? I
Speaker 1: feel like, here's how long he he continues to do
Speaker 1: this journey along with Lulis Prez. You know, we saw
Speaker 1: McCarran get out. I'm just when do we kind of
Speaker 1: see this og wave of these players kind of age out?
Speaker 2: Well, I would have said that, you know, I made
Speaker 2: the argument if, like for Louis Perez, you don't write
Speaker 2: a book if you're continuing to play. But when he
Speaker 2: talked about you know, he talked with his family at
Speaker 2: the at the book event, the virtual book event, he said,
Speaker 2: you know, as long as I continue to to feel good,
Speaker 2: my family's you know, and I'm playing at the level
Speaker 2: I want to play, I want to continue. And he
Speaker 2: had a lot of great things to say about the UFL.
Speaker 2: So I'm I don't know if I'm ready to write
Speaker 2: off some as you said, the o G quarterbacks shit.
Speaker 2: But to me, if George, if if d C has
Speaker 2: another you know, week season, which they I mean, they've
Speaker 2: looked good, but it seems like they've got you know,
Speaker 2: their offense back together here that especially with Abram Smith
Speaker 2: coming back.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: But but I think if it's another mediocre season and
Speaker 2: kind of with the coaching changes and things that happen,
Speaker 2: you do wonder if Jordan thom It was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this might be enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you like to I saw at last Perez
Speaker 1: got Tom. I can't even talk my my Tom Pelisero
Speaker 1: plug for his for his book on Twitter. Sure I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe that we had Tom Pelisara. They'll give it. Uh.
Speaker 1: It just goes back to like you know, I know
Speaker 1: we're talking DC now, but this lose press thing like
Speaker 1: be in the face of Lake. We have a rock
Speaker 1: and roll I hear I. I see your super chalol pulse
Speaker 1: out up here. In a minute, we're done with the game.
Speaker 1: So you say Memphis looks the best oh and two?
Speaker 2: Is there such thing as a good oh and two team?
Speaker 2: I mean I think so? I mean, go ahead. Bill Parcells,
Speaker 2: you know he always says, you know, his quote about
Speaker 2: like you know, your record is what you know is
Speaker 2: about your team, had some great quote about that, like
Speaker 2: you know, your record is what you are. But still
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, if there's a good oh and
Speaker 2: two team, I'm gonna say it's to Memphis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, we almost want I am. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like, you know, well, that was how I felt
Speaker 1: about like the Commanders last year, because like we almost,
Speaker 1: you know, we made it, like we almost beat you know,
Speaker 1: we didn't almost. Yeah, we couldn't beat the Eagles, And
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you have a failure of a season.
Speaker 1: It didn't matter, okay, like I thought. Okay, So it's
Speaker 1: kind of always interesting to see or like, you know,
Speaker 1: not like Mike Mitchell talks a lot with you know,
Speaker 1: the Jets and how things would be different if things
Speaker 1: games did were different. For Aaron Rodgers, it's very true.
Speaker 1: Like I think both. I think both can are very
Speaker 1: valid and very very opposite as well. In terms of attendance.
Speaker 1: You're speaking of Mike Mitchell, and then obviously I think
Speaker 1: the Jets would be wildly different if certain things had
Speaker 1: gone you know, if certain games had gone different. With
Speaker 1: all that thirteen thousand, what was it around that last week?
Speaker 1: I think generally we're closer to seventeen last year. Feels
Speaker 1: like that might kind of be the water mark there,
Speaker 1: Saturday and night. I mean, had to be a decent
Speaker 1: time in DC that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously I don't think it
Speaker 2: was thirteen thousand. Certainly even the beer Snake area wasn't
Speaker 2: it wasn't totally full. Now they were able to get
Speaker 2: the beer Snake up there. I don't know if you've
Speaker 2: heard of the beer snake, but it's something they do
Speaker 2: in DC.
Speaker 1: Read Yeah, remember I loved the I love the beer Snake.
Speaker 2: Was right, you said you loved it. You need you
Speaker 2: want even more of it? Uh? Yeah, I think as
Speaker 2: we start to move along, I'm interested to see what
Speaker 2: the DC turnout will be for a couple of reasons,
Speaker 2: and one being what you just mentioned about, you know,
Speaker 2: people liking the Commanders. Again, I think that that was
Speaker 2: what made Saint Louis so strong is because they you know,
Speaker 2: they hated uh Stan Kronkey for leaving and it was
Speaker 2: kind of the middle finger. They're like, hey, look at this,
Speaker 2: we have this good team and we don't need you,
Speaker 2: and we're going to show up and support this team.
Speaker 2: And I think there was also kind of the same
Speaker 2: thing to Dangel Snyder at the time, is we're going
Speaker 2: to show up. And the good thing is DC was good.
Speaker 2: There was a reason to show up for them. So
Speaker 2: I just wonder if you're what you said about fan
Speaker 2: apathy might happen, especially as if they're not going to
Speaker 2: be up to par Now again, we're talking about a
Speaker 2: you know, a two and o team, So I'm not ready.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna ride them out now.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing and I do, like I said, I
Speaker 1: think for my money, uh and and I I have
Speaker 1: been to Saint Louis. I've not been to Saint Louis
Speaker 1: when the battle Hawks were playing in the stadium. I
Speaker 1: would imagine that would be number one it's great my
Speaker 1: number one. Oh and it was well no, actually so yeah,
Speaker 1: so John Lewis talking battle Hawks, speaking of which Kevin said,
Speaker 1: see for it, Brandon, then let's get rid of this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: totally forgot about that. I got an email this morning
Speaker 1: from friend of the program Kevin Seffert ESPN, and he goes,
Speaker 1: what's the deal with these BattleHawks? I want to talk
Speaker 1: to someone about going to the BattleHawks games? Said, Uh, well,
Speaker 1: do you want someone crazy or do you want someone saying?
Speaker 1: And I will not tell you what he said, but
Speaker 1: then I don't know what she talked.
Speaker 2: I don't know what he.
Speaker 1: Said on Lewis. So hopefully John Lewis is going to
Speaker 1: be quoted. Hopefully ended upcoming an article here from Kevin Seabert.
Speaker 1: So I thought, I thought that that was great. Sorry
Speaker 1: signed no tangent for all that, but.
Speaker 2: And I appreciate you passing his inf But we had
Speaker 2: a great conversation. He's I love the work that he does,
Speaker 2: and I told him so. He's like, he's one of
Speaker 2: the national reporters who gets it. He's broken a lot
Speaker 2: of news, certainly about the union issues and all, but
Speaker 2: he also covers the league. I think in a way
Speaker 2: that you know, legitimately covering this league.
Speaker 1: Uh. You know, he does pay dividends to be like
Speaker 1: friends with me. Sometimes I do know people and like
Speaker 1: things and gets like you know, it's not all imagine that.
Speaker 1: I mean like its just anyway. It just goes all it.
Speaker 1: But anyway, speaking of Uh, to me, the best environment
Speaker 1: I've ever been to is in d C. So I
Speaker 1: want that to be successful. I've been there for kickoff,
Speaker 1: I've been there for playoff games. I've done two or
Speaker 1: three games there. I really like it, but I am
Speaker 1: tired of Oh wait, John, I see it. The beer
Speaker 1: snake is like it's every game now. It was it
Speaker 1: was fine week one. It was like, it's you don't
Speaker 1: need to do it every time. So there's twelve thirteen
Speaker 1: thousand everybody. You don't I don't need it every time
Speaker 1: a nauseum and the novelty of that is one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what it probably has to us.
Speaker 2: But when you're trying to bring in casual viewers like
Speaker 2: that's easy, that's low hanging through because there would be
Speaker 2: people who are watching, you know who, this is the
Speaker 2: first time they've seen a UFL game or a DC game,
Speaker 2: and They're like, what is going on in the end zone?
Speaker 2: So you don't want as you know, we've worked in television,
Speaker 2: you we are there. Television is there to answer viewers questions.
Speaker 2: They're not there to make them, you know, ask those
Speaker 2: questions and leave them unanswered. So uh no, I get it.
Speaker 2: I think for all of us, you know, hardcore siccos
Speaker 2: that watch every minute of every game, it's it does
Speaker 2: get a little old, but but I mean, I get
Speaker 2: it again. It's low hanging fruit. Luis Perez, you know,
Speaker 2: played D two ball and never played in high school.
Speaker 2: And I mean, but they're good stories.
Speaker 1: John Bold and his family comes on the field and
Speaker 1: helps him run routes. Okay, Like I love the Louis Press.
Speaker 1: He is a charismatic person in the world. Can we please,
Speaker 1: It's like every week on here are into renegades. Would
Speaker 1: you like to talk to Bob Stoops and Louise Press
Speaker 1: is like I would like to tell to anybody else?
Speaker 1: I would like to Can we type to anybody else?
Speaker 1: Anybody else on this?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: We have a ton of comments here to talk through.
Speaker 1: All these a lot of actually ones, and we'll get
Speaker 1: to the other two games. And my rant Rock and
Speaker 1: roll COOKI is better in San Antonio or Detroit. He's
Speaker 1: where's he He's with Birmingham.
Speaker 2: Right, he's the he's the third stringer in Birmingham. And
Speaker 2: that signing still confuses me to this hour.
Speaker 1: Hey, big brain on read here. So he mean we're
Speaker 1: would you put in Detroiter, we'll talk say san Antonio
Speaker 1: coming up here.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not ready to count out Kellen Mond yet
Speaker 2: in San Antonio. I mean, I think that's still kind
Speaker 2: of trying to jill. It hasn't quite jailed just yet.
Speaker 2: And uh, I mean I don't I don't know that
Speaker 2: you want to, you know, put him with the Panthers yet.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean that quarterback situation seems okay right now.
Speaker 2: I think there are places for him, Like wouldn't you
Speaker 2: like to see him in Houston? He might not like
Speaker 2: to see him in Houston, So you know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't, but the but for him to be in Birmingham,
Speaker 2: I just I did not. I'm still trying to figure
Speaker 2: out on that one. But but if I had to choose,
Speaker 2: you know, to answer the question, I'd choose between those.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would probably say San Antonio just because
Speaker 2: that they're they're struggling so much right now.
Speaker 1: I'll never forgive the USFL for making Case Cooks get
Speaker 1: married in the walking boot because you got injured during
Speaker 1: the championship game. As someone that has filmed the leadings
Speaker 1: with rooms in walking boots, that is hard.
Speaker 2: I had.
Speaker 1: I've had right that couldn't walk. I've had grooms that
Speaker 1: couldn't John I had a bride. She had to be
Speaker 1: carried down to our first local location, and then eight
Speaker 1: hours later she is on the dance flo hammered, just
Speaker 1: like I go. That girl is going to be on
Speaker 1: the stretcher tomorrow on the anyway, Yes, I agree with that.
Speaker 1: Scott's Oh, it's like s Scott Steiner, It's got st
Speaker 1: seems sagnant Saint Louis. They're going to However, they get
Speaker 1: some calls in my opinion of him talking about you know,
Speaker 1: for its field, greg I know Gregor, I saw your call.
Speaker 1: Mac Gregoro was there. He's always met Gregory and Saint
Speaker 1: Louis all that, but here this was a go and
Speaker 1: Leon keep doing this show big need for non fanboys.
Speaker 2: I you're the opposite of a fan boy.
Speaker 1: Well the different At this point my life is not
Speaker 1: affected by the UFL, positively or negatively. So you have
Speaker 1: a lot of people that are riding on this to
Speaker 1: be whatever, you know, players and coaches and fans and
Speaker 1: media people like ever and like I just it doesn't.
Speaker 1: If it's affected me less and less every year, it
Speaker 1: has no effect on me anymore. I want to do
Speaker 1: the show because I like talking to John and watching
Speaker 1: and support, but like, so, yeah, I'll just say it
Speaker 1: like I see it. I don't go to the games
Speaker 1: right now. I don't need to worry about getting credit
Speaker 1: like I don't. I don't have you know, does that
Speaker 1: make sense, John.
Speaker 2: No, it does.
Speaker 1: I mean like if I if my if my livelihood
Speaker 1: relied on the UFL. Yeah, I what are we doing here?
Speaker 2: Well? I think you know, and we see this with
Speaker 2: you know, some of the college uh uh sport football
Speaker 2: and basketball sites where you know they're dedicated to that team.
Speaker 2: It's like you're not going to get honest coverage. You're
Speaker 2: not going to get you know, unbiased coverage. Now some
Speaker 2: of us, you know, I look, I've got a Saint
Speaker 2: Louis shirt on, so I mean I can't say I'm unbiased,
Speaker 2: But like I don't, there's no like I hate this
Speaker 2: team or I like this team, And I don't think
Speaker 2: that we should want to really sugarcoat things because you
Speaker 2: want to be honest with the fans, and I think
Speaker 2: that's what you know we try to do. And I
Speaker 2: know you do. You want to be like, let's cover this. Yes,
Speaker 2: do we enjoy it absolutely. I mean I sit here
Speaker 2: every weekend and watch these games and read about it
Speaker 2: during the week. But I mean I'm not going to
Speaker 2: sugarcoat it and say like, oh, well, you know there
Speaker 2: really were thirty two thousand fans. You know, stop lying
Speaker 2: about this. You know that's I don't you know. And
Speaker 2: you know, let's be honest about TV ratings and those
Speaker 2: kinds of things. Some people will tell you, hey, stop whining,
Speaker 2: just enjoy the stuff. But you know that's you're You're
Speaker 2: gonna get whining from us. It's just what happens.
Speaker 1: This is what it is. And I pat here says
Speaker 1: he's waiting for lawn read. I think that means outdoor.
Speaker 1: But John, you do get the other side of my
Speaker 1: living room today because normally amb said beautiful the other
Speaker 1: side of the downing table, but I'm packing, so you
Speaker 1: can see the other side of our living room. So
Speaker 1: there you go.
Speaker 2: Changing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a believer in TAMU for the defenders,
Speaker 1: and I'm just curious with these guys because like players age,
Speaker 1: and I mean, like you know, especially president stuff, it's
Speaker 1: been like forever and all through all of these I
Speaker 1: just it just kills me with all that stuff. Okay,
Speaker 1: and then okay, let's get anything.
Speaker 2: But I will say I will say with Luis Perez,
Speaker 2: remember he had his best season ever statistically last year,
Speaker 2: even though that team was mediocre at best. He continues
Speaker 2: to play at a high level. Now you know the game,
Speaker 2: you know the game with Houston. It wasn't a great game,
Speaker 2: but you know when he you could see him start
Speaker 2: to heat up. And he is one of the mean
Speaker 2: after he's played so much he should. He is one
Speaker 2: of the most comfortable looking quarterbacks in the pocket and
Speaker 2: like his field command. You there's a veteran presence there.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's obviously a veteran. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: he played in the original USFL. It seems like he's
Speaker 2: been around for so long. But I just love to
Speaker 2: watch him play, and you know, that's that's when you
Speaker 2: want to see. You want to see a guy like
Speaker 2: that succeed and get to you know, get back to
Speaker 2: that championship game, because he even said, like, you know,
Speaker 2: we talked about it before when he was with that
Speaker 2: clown show in Vegas, he thought about retiring because it
Speaker 2: was so bad and he got benched and none of
Speaker 2: that made sense. Then he goes to Arlington win the
Speaker 2: XFL Championship. I mean, what a story.
Speaker 1: Let's oh. Then just last thing on here is excuse
Speaker 1: me Brocker roll, I asked, because is is a legit starting?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but since I love Case, I love.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think he's a legitimate starter. There's no question.
Speaker 1: Do you think he's a draw? Now trying to be
Speaker 1: argument that I'm asking.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if he's probably not, because
Speaker 2: what you're what you're drawing to these games are you're
Speaker 2: trying to draw casual fans. You're not trying to draw
Speaker 2: again as hardcore siccos we're gonna go and we're gonna
Speaker 2: watch anyway. I don't so, I don't know if he's
Speaker 2: a draw, but he is a legitimate starter. That's why
Speaker 2: I said, like I just can't understand him going to Birmingham,
Speaker 2: Like what, like why I just you know, you have
Speaker 2: you had Alex Magoo coming back, who who is a veteran.
Speaker 2: You had Matt Carroll who had been in the system
Speaker 2: already a year, and if he was gonna, if there
Speaker 2: was something to learn, he would you think he would
Speaker 2: learn from Alex Magoo. But I mean, skip Holtz, I'll
Speaker 2: never question him. How came you?
Speaker 1: Oh? And then the last thing, you're Andrew Andy checking
Speaker 1: in the professor. You know, I haven't talked to him Andy,
Speaker 1: like one on one in a long time. But Andy's
Speaker 1: been good. He's been hiking all around with his lady,
Speaker 1: and I've been seeing lots of photos. I got stunnying
Speaker 1: photo of them in a cave somewhere that looked awesome,
Speaker 1: and I was. I just thought, I there's no more
Speaker 1: person happier for me, uh, for him right now than me.
Speaker 1: You know, Andrew's fishing him with that. So let's talk
Speaker 1: to this. This game, the Renegade's rough next game. This
Speaker 1: was the game of course I was able. This was
Speaker 1: my treadmill game. I'm on the treadmill. I'm walked in.
Speaker 1: As you can tell from my you can always tell
Speaker 1: what game is Read's treadmill game. President is incessant tweeting
Speaker 1: and texting. But Anthony was at this one. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: I had to pay for parking to go, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's ever food or water there. And
Speaker 1: I think there was a leaking in the press box.
Speaker 1: But we're really worried about who gets credited with me. No,
Speaker 1: I'm here. Well there we go. I pushed my button
Speaker 1: and I triggered my YouTube thing. I had just sports
Speaker 1: playing another Uh this game? Like again, John, So I'm
Speaker 1: watching this game. I mean I don't like, how do
Speaker 1: I should like? My mom is a diehard football fan,
Speaker 1: watches college football. Every college football watches uh you know,
Speaker 1: every team, all the NFL everything. I've even got here
Speaker 1: and watched the great comp stuff like how do I
Speaker 1: put this on? How do I put this on? Like
Speaker 1: for him to watch? For her to watch.
Speaker 2: Uh, you could say, watch this punter because he's great.
Speaker 2: And you know Marquette King had a you know, seventy
Speaker 2: yard punt, so it was like, hey, that was cool.
Speaker 2: I mean you had a push push like they brought
Speaker 2: they brought that into the offense. I mean, here, I'm
Speaker 2: doing exactly what I said I wouldn't do. I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to cant. I'm trying to sugarcoat this and try
Speaker 2: to sell it to you. There was nothing to sell here.
Speaker 2: This just you know, Anthony Brown, he doesn't look comfortable
Speaker 2: back there. You know Nolan Henderson, you know he was
Speaker 2: in there briefly and tried. But you know again, Luis
Speaker 2: Perez just in there just I mean running the show
Speaker 2: when he started to heat up. But it was like
Speaker 2: it took well, I think it was like about ten
Speaker 2: and a half minutes left to go in the game
Speaker 2: before they got you know, before he threw a touchdown.
Speaker 2: So it was a tough watch. Like I said, it
Speaker 2: was a televised abortion there for about three quarters.
Speaker 1: I do love though, if you want to have a
Speaker 1: glowing comment for me and then Tisdale, I do see
Speaker 1: a comment here will bring up he is like a
Speaker 1: coach on the field, right, and so obviously that is
Speaker 1: he and we've talked through all this and what's his
Speaker 1: actual strategy and all that. I mean, I see that
Speaker 1: a million percent. I think he's going to be great.
Speaker 1: I think he's so passionate, and I think that all
Speaker 1: of this is I don't know where he ends up
Speaker 1: at some college somewhere, at a high school, or whatever
Speaker 1: he ends up doing or working in the UFL. Like,
Speaker 1: I just think his his command and ability to kind
Speaker 1: of know that. But I do think the athleticism and
Speaker 1: kind of that is aging out on that. Any thoughts
Speaker 1: on that before I go to these other comments.
Speaker 2: No, I think he's going to be a coach sometime.
Speaker 2: You know. I was able to ask him about like
Speaker 2: what what advice does he give to the to you know,
Speaker 2: some of the younger quarterbacks, not just with the Renegades,
Speaker 2: because you know, they're all there together and I think,
Speaker 2: you know a lot of them kind of get together
Speaker 2: and talk and you know, the advice he started to
Speaker 2: talk about giving them, It's like, this sounds like a coach.
Speaker 2: This sounds like a coach giving advice to you know,
Speaker 2: to up and comers. So I think that is a
Speaker 2: lot of his value. I don't think he's finished yet,
Speaker 2: and I think that you know, we might see Arlington
Speaker 2: like keep you know, on the rise here for a while.
Speaker 1: The john does Curtis Johnson deserve to have a job
Speaker 1: today Monday, April seventh, as the head coach of a
Speaker 1: football team.
Speaker 2: If you brought if you're sitting across from Curtis Johnson
Speaker 2: and ask him that question to his face, what would
Speaker 2: he tell you? Like, what argument could he make?
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I'm not one of those
Speaker 2: fire the guy, fire the guy, this guy should lose
Speaker 2: his job. I'm I'm I've never been one of those.
Speaker 2: Well maybe with the Seahawks a few times, but uh,
Speaker 2: but for Curtis Johnson, it's just like, I don't know
Speaker 2: what argument anyone can make outside of that locker room,
Speaker 2: and there will probably be some inside the locker room
Speaker 2: that would make the argument against it. I just it's
Speaker 2: it's it's no good, it's not getting better, and it's
Speaker 2: not been good for a while.
Speaker 1: No DeMarcus here has a jang john in Tellvi's abortion,
Speaker 1: Tell us how you really feel? I really felt it
Speaker 1: was it was rough, it was rough. The other comment here,
Speaker 1: I read narrative is trending towards the hitter. I say no,
Speaker 1: and I mean this, My my opinions and thoughts are
Speaker 1: well documented at this point, but I've actually gotten more
Speaker 1: d ms and calls and texts this season saying, man,
Speaker 1: you're right like and I'm not even like again, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't want to be right. I
Speaker 1: don't want to I want everyone to succeed. I want
Speaker 1: it to work when I point out when things don't work,
Speaker 1: I don't want it to fail. Uh. But but I
Speaker 1: am seeing a lot more comments I say coming to
Speaker 1: me yeah you're right or like wow, okay, like yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and so you know, take it for what
Speaker 1: it is again. I mean, there's no reason go to
Speaker 1: this show anymore expecting me to say anything different. I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like my my opinions and thoughts are well known.
Speaker 1: But that's where I'm at. But I haven't getting in
Speaker 1: a lot of that. And even from people they used
Speaker 1: to be with the league that I've had comment you know,
Speaker 1: and they're like yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep. So anyway,
Speaker 1: any thoughts on that.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, it's too bad because we're we are
Speaker 2: all like rooting for this league. That's why we come
Speaker 2: on here every Monday and talk about it. It's not
Speaker 2: to come over here and be like, you know, the
Speaker 2: hater show. But you're right, there are a lot of things. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, you don't want a ton of fans service
Speaker 2: because there are hardcores like I said, that will watch.
Speaker 2: But you do need to listen to the fans, I
Speaker 2: think some and you need to listen to the independent
Speaker 2: media that cover this and just say, you know, let's
Speaker 2: have a relationship here, like tell us like what can
Speaker 2: we do better? Let's have a roundtable where we can
Speaker 2: you know, sit and talk. It's like and not not
Speaker 2: with just us, I mean like with with fans. I
Speaker 2: mean to me, that would go a long way into
Speaker 2: fostering some some good things instead of a lot of us,
Speaker 2: you know, complaining because we continued to see this over
Speaker 2: and over and over again.
Speaker 1: Then zelle heryet have some opinions as ext oh Sam opinions.
Speaker 1: I thought I was getting an in by come on,
Speaker 1: I say, hey, let me know. But yeah, same opinions.
Speaker 1: And there you go, as he means, oh last thing
Speaker 1: on this. Yeah, Arlington ninety five hundreds for that, and
Speaker 1: that's pretty in line with kind of what they believe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what they put out there.
Speaker 2: I mean, and you know it's it was April, yes,
Speaker 2: but it was like forty four degrees in Arlington, So
Speaker 2: how many people are you going to I mean they
Speaker 2: were showing people that it looked like they were, you know,
Speaker 2: Green Bay in a December playoff game or something. It
Speaker 2: was like it looked brutal there. I mean, obviously it
Speaker 2: wasn't snowing, but it was like really cold.
Speaker 1: Anything else of that. I'll pull up the last game
Speaker 1: here and then what we should be a good time
Speaker 1: here almost we'll get down the top of the I
Speaker 1: got a shower. We're gonna let me.
Speaker 2: Say I'm sorry, let me say one positive thing. Yes,
Speaker 2: when when when when Anthony Brown started to play that
Speaker 2: up tempo last drive, he that's when he looked comfortable
Speaker 2: to me? For three and a half quarters he did not,
Speaker 2: So maybe that's something that they really need to look
Speaker 2: at and say, hey, yeah, this is let's let's maybe
Speaker 2: try to do a little bit more of this.
Speaker 1: Let me pull up I want to see. Well, I'll
Speaker 1: pull it up here next time. Second I had it,
Speaker 1: I did have an email saved here. I was all
Speaker 1: excited about and then maybe I deleted it already. Let's
Speaker 1: go here, so we finally get and I will be
Speaker 1: curious the freaking TV ratings for this one when they
Speaker 1: come out tomorrow. Yeah, the FS one that was delayed
Speaker 1: because of NASCAR, and it was on f S two
Speaker 1: and I saw people like, well, we're no goody postgame
Speaker 1: comments from the Racers because of the U I'm like, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: BattleHawks two and zero here now you know, the Brahmise
Speaker 1: are my team. I have heard they are awful, not
Speaker 1: looking great this year.
Speaker 2: What do you hear of this? That was? That is
Speaker 2: a again that you San Antonio is not the worst team,
Speaker 2: but this week, the snapshot of this week, Saint Louis
Speaker 2: is the best team in the league. They are clicking
Speaker 2: on all cylinders. Offensively, defensively. You know, our man Pat
Speaker 2: Raffino had boots on the ground down there. He can
Speaker 2: he could tell you more. But just you know, from
Speaker 2: what I was watching on Sunday, it's like, I mean,
Speaker 2: they were they were just out there, you know, doing work.
Speaker 2: And and a pro tip for you here, if you
Speaker 2: watch on the these Fox games on the Fox Sports app,
Speaker 2: you you can like there was a whole pre game
Speaker 2: and everything on there. So I don't know if that
Speaker 2: was the case, because there was about five minutes left
Speaker 2: to go and like six twenty five Eastern time, and
Speaker 2: I turn it on and there's five laps to go
Speaker 2: in this race, and I'm like, well, this is obviously
Speaker 2: not going to start on time, and you had texted
Speaker 2: me to tell like you were it was gonna be
Speaker 2: on FS two. I just went to the app and
Speaker 2: it was like watching you know, the whole game. So
Speaker 2: I like, again, you know, I'm on this Manny Wilkins
Speaker 2: train of being such a dual threat and like a
Speaker 2: model of efficiency when he's when he's playing. I don't
Speaker 2: know what's going on with san Antonio killing mind again.
Speaker 2: It's not gelling with him again. It's only been two games.
Speaker 2: I think a J. Smith is still It's not like
Speaker 2: a J. Smith forgot how to coach or Wade Phillips
Speaker 2: forgot how to coach. It's gonna come together. But when
Speaker 2: you're you know, in a ten week season, Uh, you're
Speaker 2: a third all the way through here almost, so you've
Speaker 2: got to get to start to hear you're a fifth
Speaker 2: of the way right now.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I saw Pat, Yes, And and make sure
Speaker 1: you check got past player of the Week article right
Speaker 1: now on All Football dot com. And then Pat is
Speaker 1: going to have his quarterback excuse me video coming out.
Speaker 1: I think he said tomorrow when you posted that stuff
Speaker 1: on there. Oh and then the other thing was that
Speaker 1: posted a comment in our chat. I think it was
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips and his wife like hanging out on the
Speaker 1: sidelines before the game. Wade, maybe you should be coaching
Speaker 1: up your guys. Okay, maybe maybe you know, maybe we
Speaker 1: can take him out there. Uh, chop, got salt. Santo's
Speaker 1: problem is on line Monde time. Dude, I can't really
Speaker 1: evaluate him, and I agree with you. I have heard,
Speaker 1: you know, Nanny Wilkins. I think Sath a friend. You know,
Speaker 1: everyone knows Sath. You know s had lessons. I think
Speaker 1: he calls them the Jane Daniels of the UFL. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously where commander stands and all that, But yeah, is
Speaker 1: this I don't know. I don't know what what the
Speaker 1: Brahmas do here right and and let's uh well, I
Speaker 1: guess any other thoughts on that because I want to
Speaker 1: pull up something here and have a discussion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know what, what what do they
Speaker 2: do right now? I don't think you benched mine. I mean,
Speaker 2: as you know the commenter said there, it's like it's
Speaker 2: an O line problem. And you know what, let's get
Speaker 2: a ground game and give him some time, get some
Speaker 2: blocking in there, because it's hard, it is hard to
Speaker 2: evaluate him. But I still think like something's just not
Speaker 2: geling yet.
Speaker 1: Last thing here I want to look at just as
Speaker 1: Stanley's real quick John, if you look at USh got
Speaker 1: six wins from the XSL shot and two. I was
Speaker 1: like interesting here, But no, I mean San Antonio looks
Speaker 1: really bad, right, Roughnecks look really bad?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You say Showboats are on the rise? How do you
Speaker 1: feel there? Snapshot? I mean eighteen and it's hard, and
Speaker 1: you know this is impossible, and even the CFL we
Speaker 1: do all this stuff and power ranks and everything, and
Speaker 1: we have to do all that. But just you know,
Speaker 1: you got three pretty good teams in the XFL. I
Speaker 1: think you have one really good team in the USFL.
Speaker 2: Do you have a couple?
Speaker 1: How do you kind of feel about these eight?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean don't let's let's let's not count out
Speaker 2: the Panthers yet. I that you know, it's we're two
Speaker 2: weeks in. Uh, I mean you can we counted out
Speaker 2: the Roughnecks before the season started, and so far we're
Speaker 2: on track for that. Show Boats on the rise still,
Speaker 2: But doesn't it feel like, you know, I don't want
Speaker 2: to go against skip Holtz, I mean, why would you? Again?
Speaker 2: But doesn't it feel like the UFL champion is going
Speaker 2: to come out of the XFL conference.
Speaker 1: I was, I was reading this email and you weren't.
Speaker 2: Listening to me. It's like, you know, I'm no, I
Speaker 2: just it just feels like the UFL champion is going
Speaker 2: to come out of the out of the out of
Speaker 2: the XFL conference.
Speaker 1: You know, ast Birmingham how they can right.
Speaker 2: It just it just feels like Birmingham. Again, I'm not
Speaker 2: counting out the Panthers, but it feels like Birmingham is
Speaker 2: going to be the USFL conference, you know, champion, and
Speaker 2: one of those three teams out of there in the
Speaker 2: XFL is going to be the other one and the
Speaker 2: you know, not the Brahmas. But it feels like and
Speaker 2: they'll be the champion two weeks in.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, you're my internet glitzer for me. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree with that. Let's a couple of just comments here
Speaker 1: and then I have this say I was listening. I was,
Speaker 1: I was screenshotting one of the things I h Scott
Speaker 1: here on Twitter, Scott back to the coach back to
Speaker 1: has really improved as a head coach. Chop Here says,
Speaker 1: you know what, the team that looks bad on the
Speaker 1: field is roughnecks l conference is embarrassing, but it's very
Speaker 1: similar last year. I mean, you have a lot of this.
Speaker 1: I David, longtime listener, loveles sleep with the quality of play.
Speaker 1: It's been trash and a Jenna is checking in here
Speaker 1: one thing before my little ramp before we get out.
Speaker 1: And what was interesting to me is we've been talking
Speaker 1: a lot about the kickoff, right and obviously you know,
Speaker 1: we've had the whole thing and they didn't do the
Speaker 1: kickoff and then whatever is now we're doing the kickoff right? Well,
Speaker 1: fourth and long here who's a longtime friend of the show,
Speaker 1: and it is written in he does.
Speaker 2: Makes some great comments on here all the time.
Speaker 1: And I will say this, I read everything. I don't
Speaker 1: respond to hardly anything, but I read every single YouTube comment.
Speaker 1: I read every I read. I just don't respond anything,
Speaker 1: but I read it all. So fourth and line big
Speaker 1: in anyone that writes in, I just don't have the
Speaker 1: time at the moment. Uh, there's more than this. But
Speaker 1: you know he's talking about the kickoff, right and how
Speaker 1: you know we talked a lot about how spoiler alert
Speaker 1: the you you know, the kickoff they used last year
Speaker 1: artificially inflated field position because it kicks so far back
Speaker 1: and all this we know, so like, is this you know,
Speaker 1: offenses down and first down to kind of all the
Speaker 1: is it related to that? John? Have we now should
Speaker 1: should the UFL be using the NFL kickoff? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to go ahead and just throw out
Speaker 2: the rule book just yet, but I mean there's some
Speaker 2: really good points in in here for sure. Yeah. Let's
Speaker 2: let's let's let's let's let the cake bake a little
Speaker 2: bit here before we start throwing things out.
Speaker 1: All right, last thing for me today and we'll figure
Speaker 1: out where this is going. I had the interactions over
Speaker 1: the weekend with the league. We're uh, this is my
Speaker 1: life and this is read rant. Now, John, do you
Speaker 1: have any other football thoughts? I guess before we get
Speaker 1: to the rant, because we'll get up.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Crazy busy week for me. Flew across the country, flew back,
Speaker 1: worked to the Amazon. I wake up Saturday morning. I
Speaker 1: have an hour to build the thumbnail for John and
Speaker 1: I to do the show. I have an email from
Speaker 1: one of the teams, and I see photos to use,
Speaker 1: and I see some photos uploaded to the media drive,
Speaker 1: and so I look for other teams. I don't see
Speaker 1: any other team photos up there. So I email the league.
Speaker 1: I go, hey, this is great, Like, are we going
Speaker 1: to get more photos or other teams? It? Really I
Speaker 1: don't want to throw you guys. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: throw any specific teams under the bus. I go, we
Speaker 1: only have one of eight team's photos, so can we
Speaker 1: kind of get that going. Well, what I hear back
Speaker 1: is well, actually no, you're not allowed to use any
Speaker 1: and that everything from the league is going supposedly. I'm
Speaker 1: waiting on clarification going through Getty Imaging now, which if
Speaker 1: you're someone that writes about this league that uses photos
Speaker 1: in your articles, unless you're physically going to the games,
Speaker 1: to me, that is an issue and something that is
Speaker 1: counterintuitive to the content creators that are working on this.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get more clarification. I followed up again
Speaker 1: today because like I said, it's not just for me.
Speaker 1: It's for the people that work on our side and
Speaker 1: other sites. But to me, it just it speaks to
Speaker 1: like I was and I was gonna do my rant
Speaker 1: on Saturday online, but it just speaks to like eight number,
Speaker 1: like reason eight hundred and sixty two. Why like the
Speaker 1: UFL doesn't understand who is who is covering these leagues,
Speaker 1: because for those who don't know, to license a single
Speaker 1: Getty image, I think is John and I looked it
Speaker 1: up as three hundred and three hundred and fifty bucks
Speaker 1: from medium Sized Image. So I have concerns, and if
Speaker 1: my concerns aren't alleviated, I might be dialing out of
Speaker 1: doing the podcast. We'll see, but I'm very frustrated right
Speaker 1: now by by the league continuing to seemingly minimize independent
Speaker 1: content creators, because this doesn't just affect us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, it's when we touched on it earlier,
Speaker 2: you know, the independent media, like, you know, the things
Speaker 2: we do. We're not making a ton of money on this.
Speaker 2: We're not making any money on this. We do it
Speaker 2: because we love the league. We do it because it's
Speaker 2: kind of a community that we're in, and I don't
Speaker 2: understand why anyone would try to put obstacles into that. Now,
Speaker 2: you know, if we were making like one thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: you know, and doing all this, you know, every time
Speaker 2: we posted an article or did anything or posted a video,
Speaker 2: and then maybe I could see like, well, the UFL
Speaker 2: saying you're not going to use us just to make
Speaker 2: money and then you know, say what you want to
Speaker 2: say about us. Whatever you know. I've had there have
Speaker 2: been times where I've reached out to the league and
Speaker 2: didn't hear anything back. There have been other times where
Speaker 2: I've reached out to the league, had an email directly back.
Speaker 2: There are each and what some people might not know
Speaker 2: is every team has a different PR person and I've had,
Speaker 2: you know, mixed results. The good results that I've had
Speaker 2: have been great, that some are super responsive, and you know,
Speaker 2: I just don't understand why a league would want to
Speaker 2: put obstacles not just for us, but for for any
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody watching this knows that there are several
Speaker 2: other outlets who do who do the same thing.
Speaker 1: It affects everyone the newsroom and if ufl board was
Speaker 1: still here, it affects the Football network people. Yes you're
Speaker 1: welcome for that name, but you know, like I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: but but it affects everybody. And and so that is
Speaker 1: my concern is if we're content creators working on this,
Speaker 1: and and yeah, you you need to go through getting
Speaker 1: the license. I've had to pay images before because the
Speaker 1: people and we didn't, you know, for no fault of
Speaker 1: any I mean just my fault. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: but it's fine. I just I don't I'm not going
Speaker 1: to pay three hundred and fifty dollars in image to
Speaker 1: write about the rough Necks Renegades game from Sunday or
Speaker 1: to post about it, or to make it like I'm
Speaker 1: just I can't do that. I can't do that. So
Speaker 1: we'll see. I emailed again today. The leagues seemingly just
Speaker 1: kind of ignores problems, so that's goose. Also, my frustrations,
Speaker 1: like with the attendance and everything else, is if we're
Speaker 1: the point where it's well what we say is that's
Speaker 1: just it, okay, Well then I might step aside. So
Speaker 1: we'll see. I'm going to Orlando this week. Maybe the
Speaker 1: sunshine will make me feel better, but we'll see. I'm
Speaker 1: kind of TVD. I'm really annoyed, and people that know
Speaker 1: me a long time. I've been sitting on this once Saturday,
Speaker 1: so I'm kind of working through it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like, for instance, my plan is to
Speaker 2: go to Memphis. I mean, who doesn't want to see
Speaker 2: you know, show boats and Roughnecks. But you know, my
Speaker 2: plan is to go to Memphis this weekend. Immediately you know,
Speaker 2: I put in for credentials. Let the PR guy down there,
Speaker 2: know Andy, who has been awesome to work with. I
Speaker 2: mean he's great. But yeah, I mean I'm not getting
Speaker 2: paid to do that. I'm paying to do that, and
Speaker 2: it's my own money. So because I want to. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, we as someone who is you know, gonna
Speaker 2: be turned fifty four this year. I remember, you know
Speaker 2: how these leagues sprout, you know, sprout up and then
Speaker 2: they die, and it's like, you know, I don't want
Speaker 2: that for the UFL, but I'm going to take advantage
Speaker 2: to try to see a lot of these games as
Speaker 2: much as I can in person. Uh but yeah, I
Speaker 2: just I just really wish that there was a, as
Speaker 2: I said earlier, a round table for the league to
Speaker 2: listen to fans and have like a true listening session
Speaker 2: again for fans for independent media, you know, listen whatever
Speaker 2: you know, whatever your politics are. And this is not political.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like we we have seen how influential
Speaker 2: like the non mainstream legacy media has been, you know, politically,
Speaker 2: I'm not putting ourselves to that level. I mean, this
Speaker 2: is We're not the Joe Rogan Show here or whatever.
Speaker 2: But our pod Save America. But what we are is
Speaker 2: like independent media who like we just want to tell
Speaker 2: the story of the league. That that is when I
Speaker 2: started doing the YouTube and started to do you know,
Speaker 2: any of the content, and then you know, joined you
Speaker 2: it's like, I just want to tell the stories of
Speaker 2: some of these players and some of these teams and
Speaker 2: some of these leagues, and you know, for obstacles to
Speaker 2: be put in the way is kind of confusing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, last thing for me, I just what was I've
Speaker 1: totally even last night train of thought on all this.
Speaker 1: Yeah they hear, this is good. Yeah, there's seventing number
Speaker 1: of dollars the bigod times. Oh that's what I was
Speaker 1: gonna say. And then we'll get out of here because
Speaker 1: I'm just rambling, like I come on here and I'm
Speaker 1: like I am a normal person in my everyday life,
Speaker 1: and like I run the business. So like I've emailed
Speaker 1: and explained like hey, you know, did you know that
Speaker 1: this is why and this is what it costs and
Speaker 1: these are alternatives and this is like you know, this
Speaker 1: is not just me being I'm sure, what are you like?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: This is this is this is a thing, but this
Speaker 1: affects everybody and I get tired of that. I was
Speaker 1: the one that advocated for fans to go or for
Speaker 1: the independent media, one of many to go be able
Speaker 1: to cover the games. And then people got to cover
Speaker 1: the games. And then I go Reid's complained, and I go, well,
Speaker 1: that got you to cover the games. So welcome for
Speaker 1: that anyway, John, I appreciate it. Guys like and subscribe.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate you liking my microphone there he can changes colors,
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Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone. I'm gonna go heckle Jose Altuve here in
Speaker 1: love Field for the Mariners. Not I was gonna say, John,
Speaker 1: it is pouring rain here today Monday. Mariners are three
Speaker 1: and seven. Fans go to the games. Fans go to
Speaker 1: the games. So I hear all this all the time.
Speaker 1: Even Larry was the wind storm fans. It is pouring,
Speaker 1: fans go to the games. I'll see you next time.
Speaker 1: Thanks guys,