1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: And we are back. So Kirklam We've talked this a 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,679 few times with Bond as of right now has a 3 00:00:07,719 --> 00:00:10,720 new Bruomor director and then has some producers going on, 4 00:00:10,759 --> 00:00:13,919 so they're doing the route of it is David Hayman 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,320 and Amy Pascal who are the going to be the 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,760 producers of the Bond movie. So it's different about this 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,679 is they didn't sign them on for because the rumors 8 00:00:23,679 --> 00:00:26,480 all they're doing spin offs and TV shows. They didn't 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,480 sign them up to be like the Kevin Figi's or anything. 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,600 They're just like, hey, they're doing one movie and obviously 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,280 they have a very different track record, but they have 12 00:00:34,359 --> 00:00:37,039 lots of big films. I'll bring this up, I feel. 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,960 Do you know the name Amy Pascal Kirkland. Oh yeah, okay, 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,759 so sister, yeah, of course of course. So she has 15 00:00:45,799 --> 00:00:49,000 a very spotty but great track record. At the same time, 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,679 obviously I've had issues because she's produced some of the 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,479 uh Sony Marvel stuff. But I'm gonna go down everything 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,119 from when she started producing from twenty sixteen. So it 19 00:00:58,159 --> 00:01:01,079 started off with the twenty sixteen ghost bouts. We're gonna 20 00:01:01,119 --> 00:01:05,239 put them the not good category. SPIERMNT Homecoming, Molly's Game, 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,879 the post all good to great movies. So there you go. 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,840 You got Vanom, which you know, results by very girl 23 00:01:11,879 --> 00:01:14,599 in Spiders Web, which I've which I've never seen, and 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,920 then you got Spierman into the Spider Verse Far from Home, 25 00:01:17,359 --> 00:01:19,120 and then got Little Woman, which to me is a 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,560 big thumbs up. That's a big one. Uh. And then 27 00:01:21,599 --> 00:01:23,959 then I'm not to be Carriage, and then spidermant Noy 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,439 home across the Spider Verse Challengers, which is the thumbs 29 00:01:27,519 --> 00:01:29,599 up good rich, which I've never seen, and then then 30 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,920 the Last Dance, and then she's producing some TV show 31 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,000 that's coming out this year. So that's a very like Honestly, 32 00:01:35,079 --> 00:01:37,439 I kind of forgot about Challengers that she was all that. 33 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:40,359 I think it's just because, like we've talked about her 34 00:01:40,359 --> 00:01:42,159 over the years, there's been some memes about her with 35 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,760 thought I like, do you do you remember that time 36 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,640 we covered a long time ago where she was talking 37 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,959 about that Vanom was in the Cinematic Universe and kem 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,439 Fie was sitting yeah next to her, and he was 39 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,040 just like that. And then the next time they did 40 00:01:54,079 --> 00:01:57,239 an interview, they like clarified it and everything. So you 41 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,319 got her and then David. 42 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: He's like, are you fucking kidding me? 43 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not even gonna go down David Hayman's list 44 00:02:03,959 --> 00:02:06,159 because he has tons of stuff, like he produced once, 45 00:02:06,519 --> 00:02:10,159 He's produced sixty five things, he produced one time upon 46 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,919 some time in Hollywood. But the biggest thing is he 47 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,919 was one of the shepherds between the Harry Potter series. 48 00:02:15,159 --> 00:02:18,120 And that's where the rumor comes in. That's supposedly the 49 00:02:18,159 --> 00:02:22,039 newest person on the block is Alfonso Coron, who did 50 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,599 Prisoner of Azkaban. He did Gravity, he did I'm trying 51 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,080 what are you laughing about there? 52 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: I was thinking of a different movie. Gravity's going with 53 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,280 Sandra Bullock. 54 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:36,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Clooney They're in space. 55 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: And went to Passengers with Chris Pratt. 56 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: No, no, not that. Uh he did obviously. We just 57 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,400 talked about it earlier this year for the Patrons Children Men, 58 00:02:44,479 --> 00:02:46,120 which that was a great time we got to review that. 59 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,159 So obviously it's like, you know, I think all of 60 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,560 us here were big nole knights, like we would want 61 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,759 Christopher Nolan. But if you're not going to get him, 62 00:02:53,759 --> 00:02:58,319 Alfonso Caron, that's like a that's another big name. That's 63 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,960 the name that fits. But how do you feel about 64 00:03:00,199 --> 00:03:02,400 how do you feel about these people being not like 65 00:03:02,439 --> 00:03:04,639 the Shepherds? But it's okay, They're gonna be one Bond 66 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,240 film obviously a big I'm not sure if this is 67 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,039 gonna be like a trend in Hollywood where it's like 68 00:03:09,039 --> 00:03:11,199 a couple of years ago we got Peter Saffron and 69 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,759 Jim's Gunn and now this it's like before it was like, oh, 70 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,400 who's gonna do it? Now it's like, oh, well, well we 71 00:03:15,439 --> 00:03:17,960 got any Pascal produced lots of big movies at Sony, 72 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,199 and then David Hayman, who produced lots of big movies 73 00:03:20,199 --> 00:03:22,680 at Warm Brothers now coming together at Amazon. So it's 74 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,560 like another situation where people are combining. I even think 75 00:03:25,599 --> 00:03:27,520 that could happen when Foggy leaves that I could see 76 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,560 two people running the MCU going forward. So yeah, what 77 00:03:30,599 --> 00:03:31,560 do you think about that? Then what do you think 78 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:36,000 about Coron Because obviously you've you've seen Gravity, right, Oh yeah, yeah, 79 00:03:36,039 --> 00:03:38,400 so you've at least seen three of his movies. I'm 80 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,240 not sure if there's more. 81 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, and then uh so they would be sorry, 82 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,240 just help me clarify here, like the producer, like what 83 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,719 would be their titles like of the Producers, main. 84 00:03:50,639 --> 00:03:53,599 Speaker 1: Producers or for this one, just the one movie. 85 00:03:53,719 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of surprising because it's just like two 86 00:03:55,919 --> 00:04:00,280 massive titans shepherding in like one single stand alone movie. 87 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:03,280 On one hand, I really like the idea of it's 88 00:04:03,319 --> 00:04:07,199 just like, Okay, let's just focus on one standalone story 89 00:04:07,319 --> 00:04:09,080 and then see where it goes from there. Not so 90 00:04:09,199 --> 00:04:12,400 much like needing the incentive to be like, Okay, we 91 00:04:12,479 --> 00:04:14,759 need to have a six movie set up and like 92 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:17,800 this has to you know it, like you know, we're 93 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,519 doing our Resister. But like I've been watching uh Dead 94 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,759 Reckoning and I'm like, man, like just just the idea of, like, okay, 95 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,000 this has to be told over two stories. It's just 96 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,079 like it can be a slippery slope sometimes when you 97 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:29,759 when you do that. 98 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: And I look, they even changed the title that movie. 99 00:04:32,399 --> 00:04:35,279 You remember that the first. 100 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: Said part one, and I just chucked myself. 101 00:04:37,079 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: It's like the first time Mission Impossible tried to do 102 00:04:39,319 --> 00:04:41,959 the whole like connected movies, they backed at right away. 103 00:04:41,959 --> 00:04:44,000 They're like, oh no, no, that's a that's the reason 104 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,680 it failed. It's a part one. Sorry. 105 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I I really like the idea of just yeah, 106 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,560 like this is we're coming off of the Daniel Craig 107 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,639 era and like that that was a long journey with him. 108 00:04:54,759 --> 00:04:57,360 We obviously saw the conclusion of that. But let's just 109 00:04:57,439 --> 00:05:01,160 let's just focus on one anthology g project, you know, 110 00:05:01,319 --> 00:05:03,720 just like a new Adventure with the James Bond stuff, 111 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,079 and then just see where it goes. I imagine it's 112 00:05:06,079 --> 00:05:08,879 gonna be a big hit, like when it comes out, 113 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,519 like just financially wise, I think, just like the name 114 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,639 alone is it just gives me people in the theaters 115 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,680 for There's gonna be a lot of pressure for it, 116 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,759 obviously to be very successful because of what went on 117 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,920 with Daniel Craig. A lot of people say it's the 118 00:05:20,959 --> 00:05:24,639 best James Bond ever, and yeah, I have an argument for. 119 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: It, and it's not coming off like I love Pierce, 120 00:05:27,079 --> 00:05:27,480 but like. 121 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 2: Peerce was always my favorite growing up. You know, Pierce 122 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:33,279 is just just the era I think of when I go, yeah, 123 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,439 he was the best, I. 124 00:05:34,439 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: Always do the answer Pierce is my favorite. Craig is 125 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,360 the best, though. That that's how I go. I know 126 00:05:38,399 --> 00:05:40,399 people are gonna argue me on Connery, but to me, 127 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,199 Craig is like every single Bond rolled into one. In 128 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,959 my opinion, you see a little bit more, a little 129 00:05:45,959 --> 00:05:48,639 bit of Pierce, a little bit Connery, a little bit Dalton. 130 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,240 I don't blasm, but he hit one movie. 131 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,199 Speaker 2: We'll get there, one of the most movies, Like who 132 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,040 had the most movies? 133 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: More Roger Moore, he went on for a while. I 134 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,680 think he was playing Bond like he was either sixty 135 00:05:57,759 --> 00:06:00,360 or about to be sixty when he was still playing Bond. Yeah, 136 00:06:00,399 --> 00:06:02,879 he went on for he went on for a while there. 137 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:09,639 So yeah, to me, on a especially, Amazon paid a 138 00:06:09,639 --> 00:06:11,680 bunch of money to get MGM, but then they had 139 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,560 the problem of well they didn't fully own Bond, so 140 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,600 what they do They had to pay another billion to 141 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,759 fully own Bond. They've paid so much money. I can 142 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,759 see them being like, we don't want to sign any 143 00:06:20,759 --> 00:06:24,120 producers to like a six movie contract, like let's just 144 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,720 see how it goes. And to me, it's like kind 145 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,600 of smart financially and just even planning wise too, because 146 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,600 this like not that someone would be lazy, right, because 147 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,800 it's like I would hope any producers, especially because the 148 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,959 Broccolis have always had it. If any producer has got 149 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,680 the Bond franchise, and let's say you're like, Craig, you're 150 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,759 making four movies. I would hope it's like, Okay, we 151 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,879 gotta we're gonna make the best Bond movies we could, right. 152 00:06:44,399 --> 00:06:47,160 But for me, I feel like if you say, hey, 153 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,000 you only a one shot of this, I feel like 154 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,519 you're even more motivated now. Now the pressure is there 155 00:06:51,519 --> 00:06:54,120 for those producers, maybe you overproduce it and you're like, fuck, 156 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,839 we went too hard, right, like we try to put 157 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,240 too much stuff in there. But I'm trying to be 158 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,439 pause the hope that that will just motivate these two 159 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,920 like we got one shot, because to me, the fact 160 00:07:03,959 --> 00:07:06,600 that it's not even they did Okay, we're gonna let 161 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:08,920 them do four movies, but like the TV shows spin offs, 162 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,920 we're gonna give it someone else. It's literally just no, 163 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,560 you two get one movie. That to me is Amazon 164 00:07:13,759 --> 00:07:15,920 throwing their dick on the table and being like this 165 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,959 one you're shot. Because if this movie comes out and 166 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,040 it tanks or people don't like it, or they don't 167 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,120 like the casting a Bond, you're gone. Because it's the 168 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,040 one picture thing, right, the only thing that fucks Amazon, 169 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,800 and they got the money, so I don't care if 170 00:07:26,839 --> 00:07:29,160 it's a huge hit. Then those two producers get to 171 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,600 go back to the table and be like, oh, like, 172 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,439 now you want us to do three to four and 173 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:33,759 we did a massive it and now you're gonna have 174 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:35,879 to resign us to more money. Right, But again, I 175 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,879 think Amazon's not worried about that. I think they're just 176 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,120 worried about like, what's the right message and same thing. 177 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,079 Let's say they sign these people to a three to 178 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,399 four movie contract. The first one sucks. What they're gonna 179 00:07:46,399 --> 00:07:47,839 have to do is Okay, we don't want to use them, 180 00:07:47,879 --> 00:07:49,360 But then they're just gonna like have to pay them 181 00:07:49,399 --> 00:07:51,560 out a bunch of money that they didn't even use 182 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,079 them for. Like it's like that's where I actually think 183 00:07:54,079 --> 00:07:57,759 this is. I'm not the biggest fan the Pascal Higher, 184 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,560 even though there's some great things she has done. I 185 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,920 think that's the Rocky Hayman I can definitely see, like 186 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,399 that makes tons of sense if it wasn't one of 187 00:08:05,399 --> 00:08:08,839 the Nolan brothers. So it's strange, but maybe two people again, 188 00:08:08,879 --> 00:08:11,079 that shows like the gravity if you know, no pun 189 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,879 intended of the situation what they want brought to it. 190 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,000 But I think it's smart because it's you know, you 191 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:18,480 gotta you gotta deliver a great movie because if you're not, 192 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,600 then that will come out and we'll go on to 193 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:23,040 the next producers. It's it's kind of like a it's 194 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,240 an audition, but it's a weird audition because it's not 195 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,360 just like a, oh, go make a Bond short film. 196 00:08:27,399 --> 00:08:30,519 It's literally like, you're gonna make our first Bond Amazon film, 197 00:08:30,519 --> 00:08:32,879 which has to hit. Because yeah, and because I feel 198 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:36,399 like already people including myself, look at it like there's 199 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,360 I've seen so many Bond fans be like my Bond 200 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,399 now is like the first Connery to the Crag thing, 201 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,519 and that's it. Like, I don't think Amazon's gonna do 202 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,720 right by. I think they're gonna you know, water it 203 00:08:45,799 --> 00:08:48,279 down and cheapen it with the spinoffs. I think a 204 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,440 lot of people will have that mindset going in of 205 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,039 like this is if this isn't hit, I'm kind of 206 00:08:53,039 --> 00:08:55,799 done with Bond for now, because it's you're not you're 207 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,200 not lacking Bond films. You have so many Bond films 208 00:08:59,240 --> 00:08:59,840 to watch. 209 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,879 Speaker 2: It's a very similar thing with like the Rings of 210 00:09:02,879 --> 00:09:05,440 Power situation, how they like they changed you know, some 211 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,200 of the book canon. And then of course it's like, 212 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,000 well my stories. The same thing happens with Star Wars 213 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:15,799 and it's just it's never ending. Oh no, I forgot 214 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,759 what I was gonna jump into a previous past. 215 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, Mike says, Dalton is the most really 216 00:09:23,159 --> 00:09:24,759 great actor. I need to go back because I never 217 00:09:24,799 --> 00:09:27,159 loved those when I was younger. But as we've said before, 218 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,840 our plan with the next Bond retrospective is we're waiting 219 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,120 for the date and then what we're gonna do is 220 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,960 some Patreon We're gonna throw up a poll and it's 221 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,600 gonna be either Craig Moore Peers or the lads of 222 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,919 a Dalton Dalton eraon. You guys are gonna pick the 223 00:09:38,919 --> 00:09:41,720 retros and we'll do that series. Every Bond movie will 224 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,159 do one Bond actor and go from there. So U 225 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,879 but I yeah, I can't calm and I haven't seen 226 00:09:48,919 --> 00:09:51,080 in a while. I've never gone back to them too much, 227 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,600 so we'll we'll get there eventually. The Timothy Adulton one. 228 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,639 Speaker 2: So I definitely have not seen all the Bond films. 229 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,080 There's oh yeah, I would have to catch up on. 230 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a great pick. I love Gravity, loved 231 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,000 I think children like on that special I gave like 232 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,720 on the retro any thing, I gave a ten, like 233 00:10:06,759 --> 00:10:09,080 that's up there. If you're tell me, hey, what's give 234 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,759 me the top ten sci fi movies all time or whatever, 235 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,279 just like it is science fiction, but she's like alternate 236 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,440 realities whatever, whatever whatever genre Children Were Men is in, 237 00:10:17,759 --> 00:10:20,240 it's a top ten or like from the story, from 238 00:10:20,279 --> 00:10:22,559 the acting, from like we talk about the one shot 239 00:10:22,639 --> 00:10:25,320 somewhere and there. I loved Gravity. I did not like 240 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,320 Roma really at all, and funny enough that's coming for 241 00:10:27,399 --> 00:10:31,320 me that I think Prisoner of Azkaban is like highly overrated, 242 00:10:31,519 --> 00:10:34,320 but I still think it's a great, like well made movie. 243 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:35,600 I don't look at it and look at it because 244 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,080 it's bad. It's just it's not my cup of tea. 245 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,720 And there's some things where I I think they're needing more. 246 00:10:40,759 --> 00:10:43,279 But he's a great director, and of course I want Nolan. 247 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,720 But at the same time, if you look at what 248 00:10:45,759 --> 00:10:47,799 Amazon is doing here right where it's like, okay, they're 249 00:10:47,799 --> 00:10:51,279 giving these people one movie. Even then I could see 250 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,320 no because there was always the rumor why the Broccolis 251 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,799 didn't work with them. Nolan won final cut. I can 252 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,879 already see Amazon being like we're not gonna give Nolan 253 00:10:57,919 --> 00:11:00,120 final cut. I think that's a mistake. I think you 254 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,519 roll the dice and I because I just think that 255 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,320 there's maybe only one time to do this, and this 256 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,279 is now and now you I guess maybe if this 257 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,360 movie bombs and it sucks, then you go back to nomngo. Okay, 258 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,279 we actually really screwed up. Can you do Bond film 259 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,360 for us? But at that point, Bank, yeah, nah, like 260 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,960 you could have came to me before, Like so if 261 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,639 no one's off the table, which sucks, I think that's 262 00:11:19,639 --> 00:11:22,919 a dream for me. Koran is like another really good pick, 263 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,720 Like that's one that does get me excited, you know. 264 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,480 I think there's some good juice to be squeezed there, 265 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,919 So I do Yeah, let me fine. May did have 266 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,480 a question about this. 267 00:11:33,919 --> 00:11:36,399 Speaker 2: I guess one thing I'll add on to the Koran 268 00:11:36,919 --> 00:11:39,960 pairing of just looking at Prisoner of Azking Banks, that's 269 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,120 like the one I'm the most familiar without all those projects, 270 00:11:43,159 --> 00:11:45,759 when I've seen the most I feel like looking at 271 00:11:45,799 --> 00:11:48,840 that movie, I do agree. I think people rate it 272 00:11:48,879 --> 00:11:50,639 a little bit too highly than what it is. But 273 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,360 that movie has so many different things going on in it, 274 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:57,759 and I feel like throwing it into a James Bond, uh, 275 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,799 just just skin. I think that could actually be a 276 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,080 really good pairing, which is the levels of intensity and 277 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,360 just lightheartedness and all all that stuff from Romance. 278 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:09,799 Speaker 1: Do you have? That's what many asked Other than Nolan, 279 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,399 do you have any other directors? He likes to get 280 00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:14,440 the shot Bond Corona stuff I want, Like I hear 281 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,279 that and go, yeah, that that makes sense to me. 282 00:12:17,399 --> 00:12:19,240 Danny Boyle is another one, because he was supposed to 283 00:12:19,279 --> 00:12:21,639 do No Time to Die and then that didn't work out. 284 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,960 He's always been trying to do a Bond movie, Like 285 00:12:25,039 --> 00:12:27,440 it's a fucking obvious one. But like if you can't 286 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:33,360 get Nolan, Deny would be like yeah, like that's another 287 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,080 big dream one right there where. It's kind of because 288 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,360 I remember when they asked him about, hey, would you 289 00:12:38,399 --> 00:12:40,039 ever do a comic movie and he said, oh, the 290 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,559 only one I would do is Batman. Nolan and Denny 291 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,840 are very different directors, but I think they're in that 292 00:12:44,879 --> 00:12:47,320 same scope. If I feel like there would be a 293 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,559 very there'd be similar beats to a Nolan Batman and 294 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,840 Denise Batman right where it's something like where Matt Reeves 295 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,600 very different director, and hey, fucking Matt Reeves, that'd be 296 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,559 another great Bonder. Let's say they canceled Batman too give 297 00:12:58,639 --> 00:13:00,879 him Bond, Like that'd be fucking to get past in 298 00:13:00,919 --> 00:13:03,679 his Bond Just fucking dude. Could you imagine the universe 299 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,320 where James goun Cancel's Batman too and they go do 300 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,320 Bond movie as passing him and it's just like fucking 301 00:13:09,399 --> 00:13:11,960 the best thing ever. But so yeah, i'd actually throw 302 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,039 Matt Reeves. I don't think it has to be a 303 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,600 British director. That happened in the nineties where Steven Spielberg 304 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,600 many times said he tried to pitch himself doing BOMD like, Nope, 305 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,559 we're gonna keep to the rules of being British. It's like, 306 00:13:23,159 --> 00:13:27,120 man like, it's like an old thing. It's like anybody 307 00:13:27,159 --> 00:13:28,679 that say, you know what, we're not gonna have Steven 308 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,360 spielberdrict a bomb move. I'm like, why did you not 309 00:13:31,399 --> 00:13:34,519 take the shot? Unless this guy wanted like just buckets 310 00:13:34,519 --> 00:13:37,759 of money, It's like take the shot, like Steve Spelberg, 311 00:13:37,759 --> 00:13:39,799 dirict a fucking Bond movie and say thing with Nolan, 312 00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:42,519 So that would be me, Like, I like Caran Danny Boyle, 313 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,679 danie Velle, nuff and yeah, randomly throw throw Matt Reeves 314 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,720 in there. Fuck it. Let's like some of like The 315 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,000 The Batman's a beautiful looking movie, so I'd love to 316 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,120 see like that has to do a Craig phrase or two, 317 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,159 but just like the pacing of it, like and think 318 00:13:54,159 --> 00:13:56,159 about this Apes movie, Like there's tons of great action 319 00:13:56,279 --> 00:13:58,799 set pieces in there. So yeah, fuck, give it to 320 00:13:58,799 --> 00:13:59,600 Matt Reeves, you. 321 00:13:59,519 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: Know, absolutely JJ. You know he's not doing anything. 322 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be tough. That'd be like him doing Star 323 00:14:08,399 --> 00:14:12,080 Trek the Star Wars be like Mission impossible to bond there. 324 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,519 So yeah, I'm trying to think what about I'm trying 325 00:14:16,519 --> 00:14:19,240 to look if I'm miss any when someone put Tarantino, like, no, 326 00:14:19,399 --> 00:14:21,720 like I love Tarantino, but I don't think that's a 327 00:14:22,399 --> 00:14:24,759 I don't think it's a good fit. Yeah, Steve McQueen's 328 00:14:24,759 --> 00:14:26,519 another good one. I like that. I'm trying to think 329 00:14:26,559 --> 00:14:27,639 there's anyone. 330 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: New or said Guy Richie. 331 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:36,639 Speaker 1: I No, I can't. I would like James Bond type 332 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,000 of movie, but not actually him direct James Bond. I 333 00:14:40,039 --> 00:14:43,840 don't think he would do this because here's my pitch. 334 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,440 I don't know if he would do it, because I 335 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,200 feel like he wants to be in the horror realm 336 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,679 and do weirder stuff. But if they want to go 337 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,720 around because they've said, hey, the only thing we're doing Bond, 338 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,279 we're not making them a wound, which I agree with. 339 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,519 They said, like doesn't matter, like obviously they're gonna hime 340 00:14:57,519 --> 00:14:59,679 in British, but like we don't care about his race. 341 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,320 Whoever's best is best, and this director's notorious. He's never 342 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,960 said like he's not gonna work with white directors, but 343 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,720 he's always said like he wants to put, you know, 344 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,240 people of color, specifically black people as the mainstay of 345 00:15:12,279 --> 00:15:15,159 his story because he's seen enough stories of the white lead. 346 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,240 He wants to tell the black story. If you're gonna 347 00:15:17,279 --> 00:15:19,919 go and you're in this, I don't think whatever ever happen, 348 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,480 if you're gonna go and get a black James Bond 349 00:15:22,519 --> 00:15:24,240 and really step for you what we want to put 350 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,759 a thumbprint on it? Get me Jordan Peele like to me, 351 00:15:28,519 --> 00:15:33,600 especially because Nope, some of those sequences are fantastic. That's 352 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,360 everybody to like second units cinnatography, but like some of 353 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,679 the action set pieces that shot of I always talk 354 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,600 about my favorite shot of that year, the fucking House 355 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,919 and it's tripping in blood, Like just take that to 356 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,879 the kay, just don't do an action side like do 357 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,600 that now with Bond. I don't think Peele would ever 358 00:15:48,679 --> 00:15:51,639 go for it, But imagine the fucking internet if you 359 00:15:51,679 --> 00:15:53,879 wake up that Jordan Peele is directing a Bond movie. 360 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,399 Speaker 2: David Washington's sure, yeah, but like. 361 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,759 Speaker 1: That would be a wild day. I would love that, 362 00:16:00,799 --> 00:16:02,279 But I just I just don't know if he even 363 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,039 wants to do that. I just get the vibe he'd 364 00:16:04,039 --> 00:16:07,639 be like, no, like that's too may like too mainstream forum. 365 00:16:07,639 --> 00:16:09,240 But I know maybe his next movie bombs and the 366 00:16:09,279 --> 00:16:11,759 same thing as like Chad Skelsei's Oh maybe I should 367 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:13,960 do this Bond movie, But I don't think so. 368 00:16:14,039 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: I'd love it, though, I'd be yeah, I like to 369 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,919 see that multiverse. 370 00:16:18,559 --> 00:16:20,639 Speaker 1: Yeah that'd be you know, give a little bit horr edge. 371 00:16:20,679 --> 00:16:23,679 But yeah, we'll see, We'll keep h we'll keep tracking 372 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,080 the Bond stuff. It's like we're now, we got the 373 00:16:26,639 --> 00:16:30,039 we got the buyout, we got the producers. We're like 374 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:36,200 we're probably within this year. Do you think we get 375 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,799 do you think we get Bond this year, Like you 376 00:16:38,879 --> 00:16:42,919 not the movie like the actor? Oh, or do you 377 00:16:42,919 --> 00:16:44,840 think we get director first? 378 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:46,519 Speaker 2: I think we get director first. 379 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: Oh. That's another good one too, Ryan Coogler, because there's 380 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,840 so many scenes We talked about that when we reviewed 381 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,799 Black Panther, that scene when he goes hunt down Claw 382 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,200 and he's in the casino and they had the car 383 00:16:57,279 --> 00:17:02,039 chase that is, and even the scene with to Challa 384 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,840 and Shurrey when they're doing the whole cue and she's 385 00:17:03,879 --> 00:17:06,839 walking them through like all the type of gadgets that's Bond, 386 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,920 all souper, that's that's actually a Ryan Coogler would fucking 387 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,440 kill it with Bond. Yeah, that's that's my top draft 388 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,279 pick now, like the like actually so unbelievable. That's that's 389 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:20,599 a good one, Mike, Yeah, you could pick. But yeah, 390 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,039 do you think we get the Bond actor this year? 391 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:24,319 Do you think it would be? Like, do you think 392 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:25,720 get actor director both? 393 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:26,039 Speaker 2: None? 394 00:17:26,039 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: Because we're still only March, so we got a long 395 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,440 time ago in I they got the producer left. Yeah, 396 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,759 I think they got producers. They're starting to make a move, 397 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:34,119 you know. 398 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,039 Speaker 2: I think we'll get director first, But I do think 399 00:17:37,079 --> 00:17:41,119 we'll still get the James. We'll see James this year. 400 00:17:41,319 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I think I think I'm a yes on 401 00:17:44,519 --> 00:17:45,920 both of them, because I bet it's gonna be a 402 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,319 situation where it's like get director, actor this year, and 403 00:17:50,319 --> 00:17:51,839 the obviously the rest of the cast, but then like 404 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,960 next year they start to shoot and then twenty twenty seven, 405 00:17:55,079 --> 00:17:58,720 Like Amazon, let me just check when Amazon bought MGM 406 00:17:58,799 --> 00:18:03,680 Amazon Buys. They bought this in two thousand, Okay, so 407 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,200 it was announced in twenty twenty one, finalize in twenty 408 00:18:06,279 --> 00:18:08,799 twenty two. So even let's just say twenty twenty one, 409 00:18:09,079 --> 00:18:12,319 they've already been waiting four years to make a Bond movie. 410 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,880 So it's like, I feel like Amazon is like, let's 411 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,519 fucking get cracking on this. You know, we've waited too long. 412 00:18:19,039 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 2: The gas pedal down and just get it going. 413 00:18:21,559 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that'll be exciting, and I'm excited for whatever 414 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,319 the I I actually don't know. I'm so curious how 415 00:18:27,319 --> 00:18:29,720 the vote goes with the patrons. I feel like they're 416 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,839 either gonna pick Connery or Pierce, because I feel like 417 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,039 we have a lot of people our age that are patrons, 418 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:35,839 so I feel like Pierce they grew up with. But 419 00:18:36,279 --> 00:18:38,359 I'll see a lot of people being sentimental and be like, 420 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,960 start with the first one, Like that's that's what I 421 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,160 think they're gonna go with. But maybe I'll be surprised. 422 00:18:43,519 --> 00:18:45,160 I know, Mike, I guess he's gonna be voting for 423 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,000 Timothy A. Dalton, you know, so, uh, you never know. 424 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,119 So we'll do that, but uh, anything else on Bond, Kirklin. 425 00:18:51,799 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: No, I'm excited for more deats. 426 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,759 Speaker 1: I am excited too, you know what. I'm excited about 427 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,680 this next ad break. We'll be right back