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<v Speaker 1>Hey, y'all, and welcome to Pink Shade. Today is a

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<v Speaker 1>bonus episode. That's right, it's a bonus episode just because

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<v Speaker 1>I love you. This is the recap that I did

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<v Speaker 1>with my friend Amy Archer four. Should I marry a murderer?

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<v Speaker 1>We decided that the answer is no, No, don't marry

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<v Speaker 1>a murderer. Don't marry this guy. He was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a hot murderer and that's always the problem. But anyway, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I love talking to Amy. She's my friend. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's got a little miss recap and murder she watched,

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<v Speaker 1>loved chatting with her. So here is your bonus episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you so much for being a listener, and

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Mary Paine, should I marry a murder?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a drug addict?

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<v Speaker 2>I will say this as I labeled our recording session.

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<v Speaker 2>He's hot. So should you marry a hot murderer?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe? I think once somebody tells you that they murdered somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>then you should put down the cocaine and head back

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<v Speaker 1>to your cute single girl apartment with your professional career

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<v Speaker 1>and forget it ever happened.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I think true. Okay, Mary Pain, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a question for you. Shall I marry a murderer?

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<v Speaker 1>Mother? Shall I sleep a danger?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care if he's hot. I do think a

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<v Speaker 1>big part of this show was the addiction. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that if your boyfriend, even if he's the nicest

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<v Speaker 1>guy you've ever met, who doesn't think you're too much,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, put down the cocaine, head back to your

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<v Speaker 1>profession and tell the police and move on with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love how David Green and we'll get to him.

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<v Speaker 2>I love how he keeps bouncing and being like, but

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<v Speaker 2>she's so smart, and I'm like, dude, you have no

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<v Speaker 2>idea the power of a hot trash man clearly right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like no amount of college education is going to overcome that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think she was so into going out there

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing the beauty of the land and the way

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<v Speaker 1>that he lived, which was beautiful. It was so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>And then but she was saying it was COVID times

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<v Speaker 1>but I was like, it seems like it was like

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<v Speaker 1>late twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, so you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be isolated. She seemed to be going to

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<v Speaker 1>work just fine. I don't know, well, she works amongst

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<v Speaker 1>the dead, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and I mean, I'm assuming there might be like

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<v Speaker 2>a receptionist to let you in the place. But she

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<v Speaker 2>had that nice boss she did. She did all right,

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<v Speaker 2>So we are talking to you about should I'm Mary Murderer.

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<v Speaker 2>It is on Netflix twenty twenty six. People. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know about over a pink shade, but on Lima's recap

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody in Murder she watched everybody wants me to cover

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<v Speaker 2>this show?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh well, you and I tried failingly to get screener.

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<v Speaker 1>She did, and I will tell you that even Kate

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<v Speaker 1>Casees and I get screener. Yeah, and she was asking

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And then that's when Kate was like, go

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<v Speaker 1>find these people on LinkedIn, go find them on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>asked for it. I was like, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care that much. A lot of times I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>that much. And I think I did follow them on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be unfollowing them now. But uh yeah, people are

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<v Speaker 1>interested in the story. I personally thought the documentary was

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<v Speaker 1>really good. I thought it was done really well. I

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<v Speaker 1>did watch it on She's okay, what's wrong with me?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't listen. You can have your opinion, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is you know what you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. One of the problems that I always have is

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<v Speaker 2>I just felt like it was too long. It needed

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<v Speaker 2>a story editor. We didn't need twenty minutes of her

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<v Speaker 2>explaining like the exact actions they took in their drunken

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<v Speaker 2>stupor like just say, you know, the next couple of days,

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<v Speaker 2>we did a shitload of coke and we got really

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<v Speaker 2>drunk and here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked telling, not showing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I you know, I also have a big problem

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<v Speaker 1>always with reenactments. Yeah, and because it was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of like showing the back of her head walking into court,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't the back of her head, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a little bit of like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And doesn't it always We'll get into the recap in

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<v Speaker 2>a second, guys, but I have to get your opinion, like,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it always wild watching this kind of stuff as

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<v Speaker 2>an American? Because you're like, you know, they're locking people

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<v Speaker 2>up for having a pistol and you're like, what just

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<v Speaker 2>the it feels almost precious. It feels appropriate, but almost

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<v Speaker 2>precious compared to America's idea of violence and what we

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<v Speaker 2>do to each other. Yeah, like I want to live here.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to live in the Scottish Islands.

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<v Speaker 1>It was interesting. We covered Ladies of London this past

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<v Speaker 1>season on the podcast and it was very interesting in

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<v Speaker 1>London because on the show there is a girl whose

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<v Speaker 1>brother was gun down in the street in front of

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<v Speaker 1>his wife and child, you know, on Christmas Eve.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're telling the story like this was what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to her brother, and then another person on the cast

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<v Speaker 1>is like, well, who cares, It's just like another drug deal,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, ah, you can't say that, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually terrible. That was her brother. Yeah, no matter. We

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<v Speaker 1>kept going like, obviously, no matter how it happened, is

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<v Speaker 1>still her brother. This whole thing I was like, and

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<v Speaker 1>what is so crazy is probably the most egregious part

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<v Speaker 1>of it was they just could not believe the gun

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<v Speaker 1>violence where that didn't phase me at all and gun

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<v Speaker 1>down on the street in front of your child, sure, sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's just this American lens and it's I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want it. It's horrible, but this is where

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<v Speaker 2>we are.

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<v Speaker 1>It was you know, I wanted to know, like was

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<v Speaker 1>it mafia and it was drug related? And it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>was he the king pen? Was this Oh he came

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<v Speaker 1>from this country? Was was he a smuggler? Was he

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<v Speaker 1>a drug garn I was like trying to the shooting

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<v Speaker 1>of the person with the illegal gun did not even

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<v Speaker 1>occur to me, yes, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, yeah, And I'm like, okay, so they hit this

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<v Speaker 2>poor cyclist, which you know, rip justice for Tony Parsons,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, okay, like that's not murder, Like we're accustomed

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<v Speaker 2>to murder.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were like, and they found guns on the property.

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<v Speaker 1>Were like yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So we start with our protagonist, doctor Carolyn Muirhead. She's

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<v Speaker 2>a pathologist living in Glasgow. She's coming off a bad

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<v Speaker 2>relationship and she I guess again, we get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of detail that we don't need. I guess they're setting

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<v Speaker 2>us up for. She's just in a bad place, vulnerable,

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<v Speaker 2>and she meets this hot guy. Now they were hot,

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<v Speaker 2>these brothers. Correct. Can we get this out of the way.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I have trash taste.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the brothers were hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Sandy is. She gets on tender. She meets this brother Sandy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's twenty nine, he's six', four he's a. Hunter he's

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<v Speaker 2>wearing a. Kilt, NOW i could not date someone sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>Four you And i've talked about, this well my, husband

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<v Speaker 2>Because i'm only five to one AND i would feel

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<v Speaker 2>like their.

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<v Speaker 1>Child, well my husband is sixty four And i'm five

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<v Speaker 1>four and a, half so he has one foot taller than.

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<v Speaker 2>Me SO i do sometimes try To timmy is one

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<v Speaker 2>foot taller than me because he's six foot on five foot. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 2>okay it, works so they match On. Tinder she immediately

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<v Speaker 2>drives the one and a half hours to go meet

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<v Speaker 2>him at his isolated. FARMHOUSE i totally would have done something.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah not at. THIRTY i mean she was Like whennesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty she's thirty and she's well.

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<v Speaker 1>Educated, okay so, yeah you might want to meet in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle at a coffee. Shop that just, Yeah she.

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<v Speaker 2>Says it's this, beautiful magical place in the, countryside and

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<v Speaker 2>he's hot and manly in all the, things And Mary,

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<v Speaker 2>payton the bar is so low that she's just happy

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<v Speaker 2>he lets her sing in the car without, LIKE i,

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<v Speaker 2>guess smacking her or. SOMETHING i don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know when they showed them in the car and they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing like because she's videoing, EVERYTHING i guess in case

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<v Speaker 1>she does get. Murdered and they're driving through like a

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<v Speaker 1>riverbed or, something and she's singing out, loud and she,

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<v Speaker 1>says he let me sing in the car and my

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<v Speaker 1>ex told me never to sing in the car BECAUSE

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<v Speaker 1>i was too. MUCH i was too. Loud AND i was, like,

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<v Speaker 1>okay well that was What, yeah and that was. It she.

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<v Speaker 1>Says he let her be herself and that's all she. Needed,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah she we do.

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<v Speaker 2>See SEE i think those are snapchat. Videos you think

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<v Speaker 2>she's just been doing herself proof of life kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>THING i think it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Snapchat it probably is, snapchat but you, KNOW i DON'T

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<v Speaker 1>i don't understand the.

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<v Speaker 2>Snapchat like it didn't seemed like TikTok to.

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<v Speaker 1>Me definitely not. TikTok but maybe she was just, like

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<v Speaker 1>let me snapchat my friends to show. Them oh look

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<v Speaker 1>at this crazy Experience i'm. Having because she's like a city.

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<v Speaker 2>Girl, yeah she said she was driving almost every day

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<v Speaker 2>from her job at the mortuary to the, farm and

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<v Speaker 2>they were partying, hard like drinking, drugs and she had

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<v Speaker 2>never done that kind of, Stuff like she was cool girling,

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<v Speaker 2>it which we've all been, there not to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Extent that was weird that she all of a sudden was, like,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah we were like drinking and doing drugs all the.

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<v Speaker 1>Time and first of, All i'm, like, hey what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of drugs and be you never were like a casual

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<v Speaker 1>drug user in. College you're, like this is this will

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<v Speaker 1>be fun with this. Guy all of a, sudden now

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<v Speaker 1>you just out they're doing the, Cocaine.

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<v Speaker 2>LIKE i cool girled it in, that LIKE i would

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<v Speaker 2>go ON i was just talking about, this LIKE i

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<v Speaker 2>would go on long quad, rides which NOW i would never.

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<v Speaker 2>Do timmy dated that, woman did not marry, her got.

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<v Speaker 2>It so there is certain cool girl. BEHAVIORS i engaged

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<v Speaker 2>and probably drinking a little more THAN i, should but,

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<v Speaker 2>Like i'm not going to become a coke.

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<v Speaker 1>User, no that's. Extreme and Also i'm kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>she's she was going out there every, weekend SO i get,

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<v Speaker 1>That but does he ever come in down to her?

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<v Speaker 1>Apartment do they.

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<v Speaker 2>Only when he's on the, Run only when he's on

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<v Speaker 2>the run from the.

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<v Speaker 1>Wall, okay, okay so, yeah that's weird that They it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like a half and half, stitch you. Know, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>he is some kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter he runs like hunting, expeditions so he knows how

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<v Speaker 2>to kill things and she works on dead. Bodies so

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<v Speaker 2>she's like it was a match made in post life.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever, yeah and you do wonder what her tender profile.

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<v Speaker 1>Said she says that, Later, yeah for him to swipe

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah maybe he's looking for somebody to help him

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<v Speaker 2>out murder more.

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<v Speaker 1>People, yeah because, MAYBE i, mean you could happen. Again

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<v Speaker 1>you never, know the stupid cyclists are going to come.

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<v Speaker 2>By there's a nearby, bar The bridge Of Orchy hotel In,

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<v Speaker 2>sandy and it's twin Brother robert are known to be quite.

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<v Speaker 2>ROWDY i, BET i bet these two are.

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<v Speaker 1>Menace, yeah because they're out, there they're really isolated out.

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<v Speaker 1>There they come into town and they just rip it.

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<v Speaker 2>of change after a few drinks and become somebody. Else

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<v Speaker 2>and at one point they're out there drinking and shooting

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<v Speaker 2>clay Pigeons and did you ever shoot clay. Pigeons i've

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<v Speaker 2>actually done, that believe it or.

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<v Speaker 1>NOT i want, to, THOUGH i feel LIKE i would

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<v Speaker 1>never hit. ONE i Mean i've done, shooting but you,

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<v Speaker 1>know at camp and, Stuff i've done.

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<v Speaker 2>Shooting mm.

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<v Speaker 1>LISTEN i grew up in a gun, family right because my,

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<v Speaker 1>the family and, everybody all big. Hunters still are very

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<v Speaker 1>ding to my husband's, family our.

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<v Speaker 2>Hunters my family was.

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<v Speaker 1>Not, YEAH i, mean you, know, gun the gun cabinet

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<v Speaker 1>with the lock on, it the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>UH i did tell my mom recently that one TIME

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<v Speaker 1>i opened the bedroom, drawer like the next to my

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<v Speaker 1>dad's side of the, bed and there was like a

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<v Speaker 1>gun in, there like a. Handgun AND i said To,

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<v Speaker 1>MOM i, go thinking back on, that that Probably i'm that.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, yeah this is according to the, scops he should

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<v Speaker 2>have been thrown in.

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<v Speaker 1>Jail, WELL i, MEAN i guess that's just that was

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<v Speaker 1>the eighties who. Cared they're, like we have three, girls

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<v Speaker 1>what are they going.

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<v Speaker 2>To it's jen. X you just had to survive, it that's.

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<v Speaker 1>All there's a. Gun but at CAMP i took shooting

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<v Speaker 1>riflery is what it was. Called took a, riflery so

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to lay. Down then you graduate on your.

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<v Speaker 1>Knees AND i did graduate all the way to standing

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<v Speaker 1>to shoot the. RIFLE i wasn't bad and AND i

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<v Speaker 1>was we you AND i was pretty good at. IT

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<v Speaker 1>a camp, too, WELL i think you are not allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to take riflery when you're a, junior which is the,

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<v Speaker 1>youngest SO i THINK i think that's like, second, third

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<v Speaker 1>fourth grade you're not. Allowed and THEN i think you're

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to take it like the second year of an,

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<v Speaker 1>intermediate so probably six seventh. Grade. Wow, yeah but you have,

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<v Speaker 1>to LIKE i, said you have to lay, down and

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be good enough and show that you're

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<v Speaker 1>proficient enough laying down to then do it on your.

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<v Speaker 2>Knees this has gotta be A southern.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing it's A southern camp for. Sure it's An Alabama

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<v Speaker 1>AND i can't imagine a.

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<v Speaker 2>World in which they're handing seventh grader's.

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<v Speaker 1>Guns these are literally like their, rifles and they're like

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<v Speaker 1>just target shooting, rifles you. Know, YEAH i, Mean i'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it would take your eye out or give you

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<v Speaker 1>a real good flesh wound if you got in front of,

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<v Speaker 1>wine but it never.

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<v Speaker 2>Happened, well they're shooting these clay, pigeons and all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden he's, LIKE i think we should get, married

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<v Speaker 2>and she's telling all her friends and they're, like girl Doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah at one point they're out at night and they

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<v Speaker 2>start talking about their, secrets and he finally, confesses, like,

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<v Speaker 2>look a few years, ago we were partying at The

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<v Speaker 2>bridge Of, orkie like you, know the wild spot in.

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<v Speaker 2>Town we left pretty. Drunk we hit a cyclist and

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<v Speaker 2>she was, like did he, Survive And sandy at first says,

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<v Speaker 2>no we hit him at a high. Speed there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way he. Survived and then they were, like we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>call the cops because we would have went to jail

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<v Speaker 2>forever and this was just a bad, mistake and we

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<v Speaker 2>panicked and buried. Him AND i was kind of, THINKING

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<v Speaker 2>i don't know if you felt this, way BUT i was, like,

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<v Speaker 2>well that's like a tragic, accident but it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Murder, YEAH i, yes that's What i'm. Thinking it's a tragic.

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<v Speaker 1>Accident it's not. Murder now where it becomes negligent homicide or,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever when it kind of goes into it is when

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell, anybody, right and he was alive.

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<v Speaker 1>If we think at this, point, oh he was dead,

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<v Speaker 1>immediately and so it was almost, like well he was,

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<v Speaker 1>dead so we just we panicked and we just buried. Him,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah but even that's really really.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad i'm thinking to, myself, like what WOULD i, Do

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<v Speaker 2>god forbid IF i was really. DRUNK i, MEAN i

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<v Speaker 2>would risk the. DUI i would never not tell somebody

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<v Speaker 2>THAT i get somebody they lenient dui, loss.

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<v Speaker 1>Try to get medical attention for the. PERSON i, mean you,

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<v Speaker 1>know that's my first, thought let's get medical.

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<v Speaker 2>Attention but that's what they were scared, of, right is

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<v Speaker 2>getting like A dui or, something because the hit was an.

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<v Speaker 1>Accident the hit was an. ACCIDENT i, mean unless you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's gonna come out later like we saw him

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<v Speaker 1>and we hunted him, down which it never.

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<v Speaker 2>Does but you, know you do keep waiting, though for

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<v Speaker 2>it to get, worse don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You, yeah because you're, Like, okay this is actually kind

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<v Speaker 1>of an understandable, accident and you could sort of be, like,

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<v Speaker 1>okay you could maybe encourage your. Fiance you should go

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<v Speaker 1>to the, police you should tell. Them you probably have

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<v Speaker 1>to go to jail for a, year, like let's work through,

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<v Speaker 1>this unburden. Yourself but, no she just SAID i like

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<v Speaker 1>the cocaine, life and the cocaine life likes. Me let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Go she's searching for a missing cyclists in the. Area

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<v Speaker 2>she finds the articles About Tony. Parsons she realizes it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Him he was like a cancer survivor Crossing scotland for, charity,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is. Horrific he disappeared In september twenty. Seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>so this is, NOW i think it's early twenty, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>so it's been two and a half, years three.

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<v Speaker 1>Years, yes something just happened and the light went really.

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<v Speaker 1>Dumb did that happen for?

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<v Speaker 2>CAPER i thank.

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<v Speaker 1>YOU i just keep checking because you, KNOW i don't

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<v Speaker 2>Containing, Okay so apparently what had happened Is Tony parsons

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<v Speaker 2>went into this same pub and was, like you, KNOW

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<v Speaker 2>i need a drink and the bar was, closed so

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<v Speaker 2>they get the pub owner gave him a cup of

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<v Speaker 2>coffee and a. Biscuit it's offered to put him up

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<v Speaker 2>in a, hotel And Tony parson's, LIKE i gotta finish.

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<v Speaker 2>THIS i gotta finish, this and he's like but it's like, dark,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah AND i don't know if it was raining or

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<v Speaker 2>if that's in my, head but dark and, raining And

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<v Speaker 2>Tony parson's, Like i'm doing. It i'm, good and then

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<v Speaker 2>that's the last WAY i ever hear from.

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<v Speaker 1>Him it's weird because it's, like do you wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>like the next town over was expecting him and, like

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<v Speaker 1>do you know WHAT i? Mean like he had it routed,

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<v Speaker 1>out so Like i'm going to stop at this particular

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<v Speaker 1>place at myl blah blah. Blah they're giving me the

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<v Speaker 1>room for the night Because i'm, this you, know AND

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<v Speaker 1>i could post it on the Cancer Da da. Da

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<v Speaker 1>SO i wonder if he was, like, NO i just

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<v Speaker 1>have to stop here Because i've only got like eight

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<v Speaker 1>to go UNTIL i get to the hotel that's. Sponsored,

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<v Speaker 1>right that's a good.

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<v Speaker 2>Point she's freaked. Out and, meanwhile the next Day sandy's, like,

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<v Speaker 2>OH i THINK i found someone to marry, us so

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<v Speaker 2>like acting like this never.

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<v Speaker 1>Happened she's, like we can talk about the dead guy

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<v Speaker 1>or not going to talk about the dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy she's, like in, RETROSPECT i probably should have went

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<v Speaker 2>to the, police BUT i wasn't. Sure and then we

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<v Speaker 2>get this whole this One i'm talking about a little

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<v Speaker 2>too much for. Me we get this whole description Of

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<v Speaker 2>christmas and her parents and then putting out the picture

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<v Speaker 2>of him and they're going to the house and the

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<v Speaker 2>dog's eating off his lap and the dog loves, him

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<v Speaker 2>and so every the. Parents her parents are, lovely by the,

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<v Speaker 2>way and they Like sandy and they're great with.

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<v Speaker 1>THEM i think that all of that is to show

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<v Speaker 1>she's now in so. Deep it's sort of like when

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<v Speaker 1>people the wedding gifts start to arrive and people have

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<v Speaker 1>booked their hotels and they don't feel like they can

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<v Speaker 1>cancel it because now other people are. Invested you, don't

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<v Speaker 1>do you know WHAT i? Mean whereas, parents, well now as,

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<v Speaker 1>parents we know it could be four minutes before the,

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<v Speaker 1>Wedding please cancel. It you, know we would much rather

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<v Speaker 1>you do.

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<v Speaker 2>That THEN i was just talking about, this like my

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<v Speaker 2>dad was kind of, like do you want to do

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<v Speaker 2>this the first TIME i got? Married and that's like an,

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<v Speaker 2>IDIOT i said, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>BUT i think it's the same idea is because now

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<v Speaker 1>the family so, invested and she feels, Like, wow they're

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<v Speaker 1>so proud of me because BEFORE i had this shitty

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend and they put out a picture of him and

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<v Speaker 1>the dog likes. Him.

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<v Speaker 2>OKAY i was a little confused by this because she

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<v Speaker 2>she seemed to insinuate, that like she was this huge

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<v Speaker 2>failure in her parent's, eyes and she was so nervous

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<v Speaker 2>still let them. Down i'm, like, girl you're a doctor

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like.

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<v Speaker 1>THIRTY i, Know AND i don't know what that was.

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<v Speaker 1>ABOUT i don't know if that was about she had

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<v Speaker 1>had a string of failed boyfriends or maybe she partied

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<v Speaker 1>too much and then got her doctorate. LATE i was, like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh it seems like you're kind of killing.

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<v Speaker 2>It, yeah she's killing. It so she finally at one,

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<v Speaker 2>Point sandy's freaking out and he's like this state has

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<v Speaker 2>been sold and they want to dig up where the body,

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<v Speaker 2>is and he's, LIKE i might need you to help,

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<v Speaker 2>Me like how do we burn a? Body and then

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<v Speaker 2>there's this whole discussion Of she's, like, no you need

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<v Speaker 2>a furnace like it needs to be you, know thousands of.

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<v Speaker 2>Degrees and he's, like, WELL i poured a shit ton

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<v Speaker 2>of bleach on the.

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<v Speaker 1>BACK i was waiting for him to, say can we

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<v Speaker 1>dig up the body and will you take it to

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<v Speaker 1>the morgue On friday when you go to.

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<v Speaker 2>Work can you just that would have been better use

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<v Speaker 2>of his of his uh of her.

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<v Speaker 1>Throat throw that body in with somebody. Else nobody'll. Know

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<v Speaker 1>that's WHAT i Was that's WHAT i thought he was.

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<v Speaker 2>Asking, yeah and this is where she, says like it

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<v Speaker 2>did say pathologists on my little tinder.

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<v Speaker 1>Swipe, hmm, yeah but you have to. Wonder so they're

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00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:32.759
<v Speaker 1>selling the estate and they're maybe going to develop it or.

419
00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:35.839
<v Speaker 1>Something there's going to be home but. Something so they're

420
00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:37.720
<v Speaker 1>concerned that abacco would come.

421
00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Through you're just, LIKE i don't know what that.

422
00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Is but they're just pulling out backos of. Stuff they're

423
00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:47.640
<v Speaker 1>not going to be, like, OH i want this tiny

424
00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:50.480
<v Speaker 1>little leg. BONE i don't know because there were deer

425
00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:50.920
<v Speaker 1>bones in.

426
00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:54.200
<v Speaker 2>There so she decides she's going to the, police and

427
00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:56.480
<v Speaker 2>first she drives to her parents' house and has a complete,

428
00:20:56.519 --> 00:20:59.440
<v Speaker 2>meltdown saying he killed. Someone he killed. SOMEONE a cop comes.

429
00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Over they talk and she realizes, LIKE i have no

430
00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:06.559
<v Speaker 2>information on. THIS i don't really know where he's. BURIED

431
00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:09.799
<v Speaker 2>i don't really know what. Happened so she decides now

432
00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:13.000
<v Speaker 2>that she's gonna need to find the. Location so she

433
00:21:13.200 --> 00:21:15.799
<v Speaker 2>like cozies up To sandy and they go out, shooting

434
00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:18.160
<v Speaker 2>and he's kind of, like, oh he's right under our,

435
00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:23.799
<v Speaker 2>feet and she leaves her red bullcan. There but and

436
00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:27.720
<v Speaker 2>that's How David green pronounces, it red bull can not red?

437
00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Bullcan the red bull?

438
00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Can, well red bull? Can you know my favorite? Thing,

439
00:21:35.640 --> 00:21:41.480
<v Speaker 1>sorry you're watching on. Video, Okay i'm so distracted by

440
00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:44.000
<v Speaker 1>my White victorian face THAT i really am having such

441
00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:45.720
<v Speaker 1>a hard time. CONCENTRATING i don't know what to do

442
00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:50.240
<v Speaker 1>about the lighting in, here. Guys, Okay so that part

443
00:21:50.359 --> 00:21:53.039
<v Speaker 1>was confusing to me because she's drinking a Red bull

444
00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and they go clay, shooting and he, says, oh REMEMBER

445
00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:58.279
<v Speaker 1>i told, you, well it's right under your. Feet so she,

446
00:21:58.559 --> 00:22:01.519
<v Speaker 1>thinks how CAN i mark this? Spot because you, know

447
00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:03.319
<v Speaker 1>in your, mind you're, like, well that's the spot where

448
00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:06.599
<v Speaker 1>you go clay, Shooting so, duh it's such a vast.

449
00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Spot so she, thinks how COULD i mark this? Spot

450
00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:13.480
<v Speaker 1>i'm gonna throw my red. Bullcane so she drops it

451
00:22:13.559 --> 00:22:15.640
<v Speaker 1>and he's, like you can't leave trash out. Here what

452
00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:20.039
<v Speaker 1>are you doing? Littering, yeah and so she because littering

453
00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:24.480
<v Speaker 1>is his. Concern but she pretends to get it and

454
00:22:24.599 --> 00:22:27.559
<v Speaker 1>it throws it back over her shoulder and she doesn't

455
00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:29.480
<v Speaker 1>know if he sees and guess that he. Doesn't but

456
00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:31.519
<v Speaker 1>then when she gets in the car without the red,

457
00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:34.599
<v Speaker 1>bullcan he doesn't, go, hey throw, it throw it in the.

458
00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:36.599
<v Speaker 1>Bag why didn't he say where's the?

459
00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Can maybe he was so coked out of his mind

460
00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:40.559
<v Speaker 2>he didn't Realize hey forgot.

461
00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:42.440
<v Speaker 1>That he even told her, okay, okay all, right if

462
00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:43.480
<v Speaker 1>you need to remember about the.

463
00:22:43.519 --> 00:22:46.519
<v Speaker 2>Drugs, yeah she tells the police she marked the red,

464
00:22:46.559 --> 00:22:49.400
<v Speaker 2>bullcan so they're going to go, in but at the last,

465
00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Minute sandy's going to a friend's, house So carolyn's like

466
00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:55.640
<v Speaker 2>trying to find, him and then they finally arrest. Him

467
00:22:57.000 --> 00:22:59.519
<v Speaker 2>so they bring the mckeller brothers in for, questioning and

468
00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the cop so, like we have, nobody no, evidence nothing

469
00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:07.400
<v Speaker 2>outside of Just carolyn's, word which is hearsay at this,

470
00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:10.599
<v Speaker 2>point so they have to release. Him and this is

471
00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:13.799
<v Speaker 2>where we Meet David, green who's kind of the dick

472
00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:14.279
<v Speaker 2>bag of the.

473
00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:18.359
<v Speaker 1>Episode, okay but when they show them in that first

474
00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:21.640
<v Speaker 1>interrogation where they're asking you, questions have you ever killed?

475
00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:25.039
<v Speaker 1>Anybody no no? Comment have you ever heard of this?

476
00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:30.039
<v Speaker 1>Cyclist no? Comment have you ever burned somebody? Alive no?

477
00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Comment it's like the questions were that you would be,

478
00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:36.559
<v Speaker 1>like have you ever killed? Anybody no?

479
00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Right have?

480
00:23:38.599 --> 00:23:41.559
<v Speaker 1>You so how did he know to just say no?

481
00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Comment have you ever heard Of Tony Parson's?

482
00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:48.279
<v Speaker 2>No maybe he lawyered up, immediately LIKE i always advise

483
00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:51.640
<v Speaker 2>everybody to do lawyer up, immediately and then the lawyer

484
00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:52.680
<v Speaker 2>just said keep saying no.

485
00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:55.920
<v Speaker 1>COMMENT i, guess but we didn't see any lawyer in. There,

486
00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:57.720
<v Speaker 1>yeah SO i don't. KNOW i did like. That the

487
00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:01.279
<v Speaker 1>guy was like behind, plexiglass asking these, guys, yes well

488
00:24:01.319 --> 00:24:03.079
<v Speaker 1>it WAS covid, Right well.

489
00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:05.759
<v Speaker 2>We we we're covering On Little Miss. Recap we were

490
00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:08.400
<v Speaker 2>covering the vow and When keith AND, eari you and

491
00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:10.240
<v Speaker 2>all those guys are going to, prison it's like right

492
00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:12.920
<v Speaker 2>at the height OF covid and we were laughing because

493
00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the reporters who are like ten feet away doing their

494
00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:19.680
<v Speaker 2>solo shots have their. Masks like remember you thought you

495
00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:21.960
<v Speaker 2>had to wear, Masks like even when no one was

496
00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:24.279
<v Speaker 2>anywhere near, you you're just sitting in your house in a.

497
00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:26.319
<v Speaker 1>Mask you just see the people driving in their cars

498
00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:29.759
<v Speaker 1>by themselves. Masks, yes we didn't know what to. Do,

499
00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:34.279
<v Speaker 1>yes because we're, covering we're Redoing welcome To platfa and

500
00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:37.079
<v Speaker 1>it's we've gone THROUGH covid times and they walk into

501
00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:39.200
<v Speaker 1>a restaurant with their masks and then they sit, down

502
00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:41.640
<v Speaker 1>no mask and you're, like, oh it makes.

503
00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:43.519
<v Speaker 2>It you just walked through the.

504
00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Restaurant, okay, yeah but, okay, listen we didn't what we

505
00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:47.480
<v Speaker 1>had to.

506
00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Do, sure so they let them go and they are, Sure, caroline,

507
00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:55.039
<v Speaker 2>like we Didn't we didn't say. Anything we kept your.

508
00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:58.519
<v Speaker 2>Secret they don't know, you but kind of, LIKE i don't,

509
00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:00.640
<v Speaker 2>know they've got to know it's, Me like this is.

510
00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:05.319
<v Speaker 2>Weird they're kind of, dumb. Right the, brothers, WELL i

511
00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:05.640
<v Speaker 2>think the.

512
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:08.400
<v Speaker 1>One, brother what's the twin brother's, Name robert And.

513
00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Sandy sandy's the, Boyfriend robert's the.

514
00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:16.599
<v Speaker 1>Brother So robert immediately goes it's obviously your. Girlfriend the

515
00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:18.759
<v Speaker 1>only two people in the world that know are me

516
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:23.759
<v Speaker 1>and you and we and you told her so obviously

517
00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:26.680
<v Speaker 1>that's who it. Is, Yeah sandy's, like, oh she would

518
00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:27.319
<v Speaker 1>never do that to.

519
00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Me, well and the cops are also saying To, caroline,

520
00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:34.359
<v Speaker 2>like why don't you break up with? Him? Now it's

521
00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:37.079
<v Speaker 2>a good. Time just you, know me got arrested for.

522
00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:39.519
<v Speaker 1>Murder, yeah, yeah say that you you.

523
00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Were arrested for murder and that freaked you, out or you,

524
00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:44.039
<v Speaker 2>know say you're busy at work or. Something you, know

525
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:46.359
<v Speaker 2>you're busy at work with the bodies that you've, killed,

526
00:25:46.920 --> 00:25:53.079
<v Speaker 2>right so you, Know, okay, OKAY i have a cough drop,

527
00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:57.400
<v Speaker 2>in just letting everyone. Know, sorry. Okay David green says

528
00:25:57.440 --> 00:26:00.480
<v Speaker 2>we didn't give her witness protection because we assess the

529
00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:03.480
<v Speaker 2>risk and it wasn't very, high and we advised her

530
00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:05.160
<v Speaker 2>to break up with him and stay with their. Parents

531
00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:07.279
<v Speaker 2>and her parents are, like this is. Bullshit she was.

532
00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:10.599
<v Speaker 2>Terrified NOW i need to talk about, this. Okay they're,

533
00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:16.200
<v Speaker 2>like when there is somebody in like an abusive relationship

534
00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:18.920
<v Speaker 2>and a crime is committed for that, witness for that,

535
00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:23.799
<v Speaker 2>partner they provide all of this. Support this blew my.

536
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:27.039
<v Speaker 2>Mind as An, American i'm, like what the fact that.

537
00:26:27.079 --> 00:26:29.799
<v Speaker 1>They would consider giving her any kind of protection or

538
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:33.559
<v Speaker 1>support was pretty pretty. Great it was even. Considered it was. Great.

539
00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, YEAH i mean in this, country you could be

540
00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:40.079
<v Speaker 2>in a school shooting and they don't provide support for,

541
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:43.200
<v Speaker 2>you and you could be a. Child, yeah wild.

542
00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Wild, Yeah they're, like you should you should really talk

543
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:48.039
<v Speaker 1>to somebody about.

544
00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:51.559
<v Speaker 2>That. Yeah In march twenty, twenty they go out to

545
00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:54.079
<v Speaker 2>the property look for the Red bullcan they do find?

546
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:57.119
<v Speaker 2>It but they need to find the, body and so

547
00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:00.319
<v Speaker 2>they do all this like weird soil testing before they

548
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:02.920
<v Speaker 2>even start digging to make sure that they have found.

549
00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:06.559
<v Speaker 2>It in the, Meantime carolyne goes running back to her,

550
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:09.839
<v Speaker 2>apartment her, flat and her wedding dress is waiting for,

551
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:12.880
<v Speaker 2>her and she puts it on and she cries on the.

552
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:16.079
<v Speaker 1>STAIRS a lot of a lot of self filming happening,

553
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:18.880
<v Speaker 1>HERE a lot of, IT a lot of self. Filming.

554
00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah she gets a message now From robert And sandy's

555
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:25.880
<v Speaker 2>friend and she's, like OBVIOUSLY i need to respond or

556
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:27.720
<v Speaker 2>they're going to know That i'm The, no you could

557
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:31.640
<v Speaker 2>just ghost, them be like Freaking tricia just ghost each.

558
00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:34.599
<v Speaker 1>OTHER i think she's A i think she's A i

559
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:37.759
<v Speaker 1>think she's afraid of being murdered, herself you know. What

560
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:38.440
<v Speaker 1>that's WHAT i.

561
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Thought but like later he shows up at her house

562
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:43.640
<v Speaker 2>in a, rage and she's not worried about being. Murdered

563
00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:46.519
<v Speaker 2>she's just like in a video in case he touches.

564
00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:49.519
<v Speaker 1>Me, YEAH i would when he showed up in a,

565
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:51.759
<v Speaker 1>RAGE i would have immediately called the. Police, yeah and

566
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:53.440
<v Speaker 1>sid get over. HERE i would let him, in but

567
00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:54.920
<v Speaker 1>THEN i would call the. Police, yeah, yep.

568
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:59.319
<v Speaker 2>Yep so she essentially gets back together with. Them he comes,

569
00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:03.240
<v Speaker 2>over they get. Trash they spend like a couple weeks

570
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:07.599
<v Speaker 2>just on a. BENDER i don't know how to describe

571
00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:08.920
<v Speaker 2>it and.

572
00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:12.319
<v Speaker 1>What AND i understand that she is, like let me

573
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:15.039
<v Speaker 1>just numb, out you, know and SO i CAN i

574
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.160
<v Speaker 1>can do, THIS i can power. THROUGH i guess it's

575
00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:21.200
<v Speaker 1>not like she's they've asked her to or there's any

576
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>sort of plan where she's like gathering evidence where she's like,

577
00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:27.079
<v Speaker 1>okay you, know they're like they're meeting with, her Like,

578
00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:29.000
<v Speaker 1>okay today's the day we need to get you to do.

579
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:31.039
<v Speaker 1>This she's doing it a little bit on her. Own

580
00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:33.759
<v Speaker 1>but she's become a drug addict at this, point AND

581
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:36.279
<v Speaker 1>i think we did not hone in enough on the

582
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:38.599
<v Speaker 1>she's an addict.

583
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah and she's like quit her job and you're

584
00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>just like What that's a good point because she talks

585
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:48.079
<v Speaker 2>about it like she's just a recreational drug, user but

586
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:51.279
<v Speaker 2>like her whole life is going down the. Toilet, yes

587
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:52.960
<v Speaker 2>that's usually the sign of.

588
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Addiction, yeah and she's given it all up for this.

589
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:56.839
<v Speaker 1>Man M.

590
00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah we meet a forensic soil, scientist LIKE i, said

591
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:04.720
<v Speaker 2>and she believes this is the burial. Site. Okay she

592
00:29:05.119 --> 00:29:05.440
<v Speaker 2>was her.

593
00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Boss oh, yeah that, woman that woman that was out

594
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>there and going through the layers of the. Soil, Okay,

595
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:17.720
<v Speaker 1>yeah she Was caroline's boss at the. Morgue they work.

596
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Together, Meanwhile caroline's on a bender with these. Two, yeah

597
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:24.880
<v Speaker 2>in her, flat not shown up for. Work.

598
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:28.720
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i thought the soil stuff was interesting because they

599
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:31.839
<v Speaker 1>were going down cinemeter by centimeter and they would Find,

600
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:36.039
<v Speaker 1>okay this type of soil does indicate that something has

601
00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>to be under it.

602
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Happening right. Now you're telling me you were enthralled with the.

603
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:43.039
<v Speaker 2>SOIL i.

604
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:48.440
<v Speaker 1>WAS i thought it was Fascinating instead of just getting

605
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>a back home and digging it, up like let's go

606
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>down until we hit a. Coffin they were, like let's.

607
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Go and then as they started to go and they

608
00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:58.319
<v Speaker 1>were finding all these bones and, things and you're, like,

609
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>no wait a, minute, now wait a. Minute did they

610
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>chop this guy up and then put him in with

611
00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:06.759
<v Speaker 1>deer bones that they had.

612
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:08.559
<v Speaker 2>That they had cars because it was a kill? Pit

613
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:12.720
<v Speaker 2>it was a kill pit previously they had. Determined but

614
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:13.240
<v Speaker 2>was it a.

615
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Kill pit that they had covered? Up and then they

616
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:17.799
<v Speaker 1>uncovered it and put him in. There that's WHAT i think.

617
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Happened or was it already it was open and they were, like,

618
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:22.079
<v Speaker 1>well what's one more body thrown In?

619
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Jesus and that that's why he needs to.

620
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:26.519
<v Speaker 1>Know it's.

621
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Fascinating and, again this guy's just trying to raise money for,

622
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:30.720
<v Speaker 2>charity like he's not hurting.

623
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Anybody it's just like a cyclist that was trying to

624
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:34.839
<v Speaker 1>raise money for cancer.

625
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Research in one of these drunken, Nights robert the brother

626
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Tells caroline That Tony parsons was actually still alive when

627
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:44.400
<v Speaker 2>they hit. Him see now we're crossing into murder. Territory

628
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:49.079
<v Speaker 2>and they went, home they changed cars and. Closed they

629
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:51.599
<v Speaker 2>left THEIR sim cards and then they go. Back they

630
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:54.480
<v Speaker 2>get him and they throw him in the back of the,

631
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:58.400
<v Speaker 2>truck keep him in the woods, overnight do a whole hunting,

632
00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:02.640
<v Speaker 2>expedition and then come back and bury him. Later like that's.

633
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Dark it's, Dark AND i do wonder if on that

634
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>hunting expedition they're, Like, okay we got twelve deer on,

635
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.839
<v Speaker 1>them and so we've got twelve carcasses and we'll put

636
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:16.839
<v Speaker 1>him in with that. One, yeah and nobody'll ever. Notice.

637
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:20.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah she, Records carolyn records him saying some, stuff and

638
00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:24.480
<v Speaker 2>she finally Gets sandy to say the closest thing to a,

639
00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:27.880
<v Speaker 2>confession which is it was either my life or. His

640
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:31.480
<v Speaker 2>so are we to Believe Tony parsons was fighting back

641
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:33.440
<v Speaker 2>or does he mean my life for? His like my

642
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:35.039
<v Speaker 2>life would have ended IF i went.

643
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:38.039
<v Speaker 1>To jail BECAUSE i had to go to. Jail, okay,

644
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>yeah that's what he.

645
00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:43.039
<v Speaker 2>Meant Greg bryce was a community police officer and, he you,

646
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:46.200
<v Speaker 2>know spend time in schools and my kid's school had

647
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:49.000
<v Speaker 2>something like, this like a community resource yea or something like.

648
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:52.119
<v Speaker 2>This he knew the boys when they were, young and

649
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:54.559
<v Speaker 2>to borrow a turn of, phrase from My. Graham he

650
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:58.200
<v Speaker 2>said they were rabble. Rousers it's pretty much what are you?

651
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Saying they were up to no? Good actually no.

652
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:03.799
<v Speaker 2>Good he learned that they were exposed to some wild

653
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:06.440
<v Speaker 2>shit at, home and there were allegations that were enough

654
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:08.319
<v Speaker 2>for them to search the. House and this is where

655
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:12.119
<v Speaker 2>they find, quote firearms all over.

656
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:15.359
<v Speaker 1>The place at their house growing up right with the,

657
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:18.519
<v Speaker 1>Parents like the dad had lots of. Firearms, yes, okay.

658
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:21.599
<v Speaker 2>They found pistols which are illegal to, own and there

659
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:25.400
<v Speaker 2>were firearms strung around the. House And greg says it

660
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:28.400
<v Speaker 2>was so, serious so we had to Arrest tom mckeller

661
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:31.119
<v Speaker 2>and throw them in. Jail i'm, Like Greg, bryce you

662
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:34.200
<v Speaker 2>need to never come To. America just never.

663
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Wonder a long was he in? Jail like two? Days LIKE.

664
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I was confused To Mary, payin like whose house was

665
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:45.599
<v Speaker 2>this this? Estate like was it?

666
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Theirs, no it's just where they. Work they were like

667
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the groundskeepers and they just. Worked, okay that's my understating

668
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>is that was their the two, brothers that was their.

669
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:58.240
<v Speaker 2>Job they just work and commit murders there got, right,

670
00:32:58.440 --> 00:32:59.279
<v Speaker 2>well just the one.

671
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:00.799
<v Speaker 1>They.

672
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Do some forensic evidence Of robert And sandy operating the

673
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:06.960
<v Speaker 2>kill pit as they're call as they're calling. It and

674
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.119
<v Speaker 2>so they like they've linked these two to the kill,

675
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:12.160
<v Speaker 2>pit and they're pretty sure this is where the body,

676
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:14.880
<v Speaker 2>is but they just need to kind of cross some.

677
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.559
<v Speaker 2>More there's A i don't know how much evidence these people.

678
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:21.279
<v Speaker 1>NEED i kept going, like what at least to hold

679
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:23.599
<v Speaker 1>them in, jail but they didn't even hold them in. Jail.

680
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:28.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah so they go over To caroline's for like

681
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:31.400
<v Speaker 2>a well, check just to check on, her the detectives

682
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:34.440
<v Speaker 2>and they Find sandy And robert inside and they make

683
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.160
<v Speaker 2>them leave and when the female cop knocked on the,

684
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.519
<v Speaker 2>door she's, like ding ding, Dnk, caroline it's me your,

685
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:44.079
<v Speaker 2>buddy the, Cop lisa or whatever your name. Is And

686
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:46.400
<v Speaker 2>sandy this dingbat.

687
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:52.279
<v Speaker 1>Is still like does she know? You? Carol yea, yeah.

688
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah so the female detective literally screaming while this is going, On,

689
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:04.720
<v Speaker 2>caroline you're our. Witness what are you? Doing sandy's still,

690
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:10.719
<v Speaker 2>LIKE i wonder who told on. Us sandy Decides carolyn

691
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:15.079
<v Speaker 2>would never betray him and he's gonna stay there with. Her, okay.

692
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay later he gets a text from a friend that

693
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:21.159
<v Speaker 2>the police are searching the kill. Pit he goes bananas

694
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:23.760
<v Speaker 2>he starts trashing the. Apartment this is another. Thing her,

695
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:27.639
<v Speaker 2>friend the one normal friend that she was talking to

696
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:29.920
<v Speaker 2>in the, beginning that, guy his name Was jane or

697
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:33.679
<v Speaker 2>something like. That he came over at one point because

698
00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:36.079
<v Speaker 2>she was having a meltdown and invited him over and he's,

699
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:43.639
<v Speaker 2>like this place was absolutely, Trashed like it looked like you,

700
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:48.719
<v Speaker 2>know a drug den if you, will. Yeah. Yeah So

701
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:54.519
<v Speaker 2>sandy assumes that this more that the cops and put

702
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:57.079
<v Speaker 2>a listening device In caroline's.

703
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Apartment seeing device Is caroline because he.

704
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Knows he Knows mary Paying caroline would never betray. Him.

705
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Never, meanwhile she's, like did you get that eight? Ball

706
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:11.599
<v Speaker 1>because bleink over here blinking.

707
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:14.800
<v Speaker 2>It. Yeah they do Find Tony parsons in the, pit

708
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:18.719
<v Speaker 2>And sandy and his brother are allowed to return to the,

709
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:22.679
<v Speaker 2>estate so they just drop them. Off carolyn drops them

710
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:24.639
<v Speaker 2>off and then she goes to the police and she

711
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:27.719
<v Speaker 2>shares that final recording she. Had did you notice that

712
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:31.880
<v Speaker 2>she made that recording while they were playing scrabble they.

713
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Kept showing that it. WAS i was, like is this?

714
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Scrabble and is it? Online because they kept showing a.

715
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 1>COMPUTER i was, like they play that?

716
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Online so earlier she had a chess game that she

717
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:45.920
<v Speaker 2>was playing. Online, okay then later it showed in a

718
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:50.119
<v Speaker 2>reenactment excuse, me that they were all coked up playing.

719
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Scrabble i've never done, cocaine BUT i can't imagine that

720
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>scrabble would be a good, thing Because he's, like your

721
00:35:57.039 --> 00:35:59.320
<v Speaker 1>brain wouldn't or maybe your brain is just so fast

722
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.559
<v Speaker 1>with the. Words you AND i got on cocaine and

723
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:06.000
<v Speaker 1>then tried to play a game like scrabble or something

724
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:09.920
<v Speaker 1>that involved, grammar it would be so much we would,

725
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:11.239
<v Speaker 1>actually that's probably a great.

726
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Idea we would probably. Dominate we would Kill let's put

727
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:15.119
<v Speaker 2>that on the.

728
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Top tiers of our, patrio very painted amy to cocaine

729
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.320
<v Speaker 1>and play scravel for four hundred dollars a.

730
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Person, Yes so Now David green says we could charge

731
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:31.079
<v Speaker 2>him with murder after hearing that recording because he was still.

732
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Alive so he, says In scotland you need two points

733
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:38.599
<v Speaker 2>of evidence to corroborate a. Crime so the pathologist has

734
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:42.639
<v Speaker 2>to come to the conclusion like this is all hearsay so.

735
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Far they have to come to the conclusion That tony

736
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:49.719
<v Speaker 2>was indeed. Alive and at the same, Time caroline gets a.

737
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Call sandy has heard from a neighbor who was out,

738
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:58.159
<v Speaker 2>there which would have been me snooping digging up the kill. Pick, yes,

739
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:02.239
<v Speaker 2>yes and she this neighbor reports back that they found

740
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:04.239
<v Speaker 2>the kill pit because they found a red, bullcan a

741
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:10.800
<v Speaker 2>sugar free red. Bullcan so he starts freaking. Out he's,

742
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:14.559
<v Speaker 2>screaming you fucked up our lives. Forever i'm coming over.

743
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:19.119
<v Speaker 2>There she's, like, Okay i'm, like, girl you're in.

744
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Danger all of a, sudden she felt no, danger and

745
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:26.079
<v Speaker 1>she AND i think THEY i don't had it been

746
00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:28.360
<v Speaker 1>like eleven, months so they had really almost been together

747
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:29.519
<v Speaker 1>at that, point like two years.

748
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:30.599
<v Speaker 2>Practically, yeah it's a.

749
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:34.679
<v Speaker 1>Lot and so SHE i think she was just going

750
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:36.639
<v Speaker 1>about her business and just, like you, Know i'm just

751
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.679
<v Speaker 1>gonna kind of forget about this looming murder trial THAT

752
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:41.119
<v Speaker 1>i helped, instigate you.

753
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Know and then he shows up at the, door and

754
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:46.079
<v Speaker 2>instead of like freaking out and throwing her against the

755
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:48.679
<v Speaker 2>waller screaming at, her he's, LIKE i love. YOU i

756
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:51.119
<v Speaker 2>never meant to drag you into. THIS i love you so. Much.

757
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay do you think there was like a part of

758
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:56.719
<v Speaker 2>him that wanted it to come? Out maybe it was torturing.

759
00:37:56.840 --> 00:37:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Him mm.

760
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Hmmm, NO i do think his brother was a little

761
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:05.599
<v Speaker 1>worse than. Him, yeah but maybe that's just because we

762
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:07.840
<v Speaker 1>don't have enough information about the, brother and SO i

763
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:10.199
<v Speaker 1>was sort of led to believe that the brook BUT

764
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:12.119
<v Speaker 1>i don't know the brother did tell the truth about

765
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>the guy being. Alive either, way the fact that they

766
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:16.920
<v Speaker 1>hit the guy and saw that he was alive still

767
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:20.320
<v Speaker 1>in the, road, left went and got a different, car

768
00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:24.079
<v Speaker 1>left THEIR sim cards at, home and came, back made

769
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:26.320
<v Speaker 1>sure he was good and, dead then put him in

770
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:27.639
<v Speaker 1>the back of the truck and let him sit there

771
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:29.199
<v Speaker 1>for a. DAY i, mean you, know there was just

772
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>there's fifteen steps that could have happened to possibly have

773
00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>saved this.

774
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:38.679
<v Speaker 2>Guy it's THE sim cards for, Me, like that's so,

775
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:40.920
<v Speaker 2>old because you could, argue, like we don't know what

776
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:43.719
<v Speaker 2>they were. Driving maybe they couldn't fit him in the

777
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:45.440
<v Speaker 2>car in some, way so they had to go get

778
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:46.519
<v Speaker 2>a truck to get him to.

779
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Go they showed they showed the car later and they

780
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>could fit.

781
00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:51.079
<v Speaker 2>Him they could have fit.

782
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Him it was a pickup truck and the whole front

783
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:55.079
<v Speaker 1>of it was bashed. In remember from where they, Are,

784
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:55.480
<v Speaker 1>oh that's.

785
00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Right the.

786
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Cops yeah, yeah, yeah.

787
00:38:57.199 --> 00:39:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah all, Right So carolyn is flipping out on the,

788
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:04.480
<v Speaker 2>police saying you couldn't even provide me, safety and she,

789
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:08.000
<v Speaker 2>SAYS i feel like the police and the crown abandoned

790
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:08.760
<v Speaker 2>me that.

791
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:13.639
<v Speaker 1>Day, okay well you could have told him to meet

792
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:14.440
<v Speaker 1>you at a coffee shop.

793
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Again, Yeah David green is. Back he says they needed more.

794
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Evidence it wasn't enough to find the body buried on

795
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:26.119
<v Speaker 2>the mckeller property or have a confession on. Tape we

796
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:28.840
<v Speaker 2>need the, bike we need the. Helmet it's.

797
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Crazy it is crazy that they literally had this man's

798
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:37.159
<v Speaker 1>LIKE dna and body exactly where she said it was

799
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that she got the information. From she's got him pretty

800
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:46.719
<v Speaker 1>much confessing on tape and the shopkeeper bar owners as

801
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:48.199
<v Speaker 1>he was here at the sign that he was. Killed

802
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:50.880
<v Speaker 1>with This, like they've got all the information and yet

803
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:52.360
<v Speaker 1>it's still not. Enough it's.

804
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Crazy so they have the body sent to the same

805
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:00.920
<v Speaker 2>mortuary That carolyn works at and it's a conflict of,

806
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:04.840
<v Speaker 2>interest so she has to. Resign so she loses her job,

807
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:06.440
<v Speaker 2>now WHICH i don't even know how much she was

808
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:07.199
<v Speaker 2>going to work to begin.

809
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:09.880
<v Speaker 1>With it sounded like she was too busy being on

810
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:10.559
<v Speaker 1>vendors to go to.

811
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Work this was during, lockdown And caroline is now. Alone

812
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:18.519
<v Speaker 2>she has no, job she has no. Partner she's. Spiraling

813
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:23.320
<v Speaker 2>she starts recording. Everything her parents are so worried about,

814
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:26.599
<v Speaker 2>her and they ask the, police could you get her a?

815
00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Therapist could you get her some? Help and they're, like,

816
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:33.199
<v Speaker 2>no she can't talk to anybody because she'll compromise the.

817
00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Investigation sandy meanwhile sending her video SAYING i love. You

818
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:40.480
<v Speaker 2>and what does she? Do she goes back to.

819
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:44.079
<v Speaker 1>Him she's back. Again oh, YEAH i don't even feel

820
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:46.440
<v Speaker 1>like they're ever really broken up for more than a few.

821
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Days this is some love after lock up, shit isn't.

822
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:53.840
<v Speaker 1>IT i, mean with a gorgeous. Accent, yes that's.

823
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:58.599
<v Speaker 2>True, yeah, Beautiful i'm really smart. People yeah, yeah, so

824
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:01.880
<v Speaker 2>well one really. Person so they sort of live in

825
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:05.199
<v Speaker 2>a bubble for the next couple of, weeks And robert

826
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:08.440
<v Speaker 2>even forgives. Her he's, like, WELL i guess it's just

827
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:12.159
<v Speaker 2>us on this coke and booze, bender AND i need

828
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:14.480
<v Speaker 2>to make peace with the fact that you turned us

829
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:15.679
<v Speaker 2>into the. POLICE i.

830
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Know and you wonder there at some point it was

831
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:20.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's just this one girl and these two guys

832
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:24.039
<v Speaker 1>and they're, twins AND i guess it's questionable what happened.

833
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Questionable David green is, like is she losing her? Mind

834
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:31.800
<v Speaker 2>what is going? On she says there was a piece

835
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:35.000
<v Speaker 2>of her that thought MAYBE i was, wrong like maybe

836
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:35.679
<v Speaker 2>he didn't do.

837
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:37.360
<v Speaker 1>THIS i don't.

838
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.119
<v Speaker 2>KNOW i kind of had some empathy for her.

839
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:42.639
<v Speaker 1>HERE i did, too BECAUSE i think that she brainwashed

840
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:46.800
<v Speaker 1>herself into thinking like this was just but because at

841
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:48.800
<v Speaker 1>the beginning she knew right for, wrong and she knew

842
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:52.039
<v Speaker 1>to turn him. In she, knew and then she, thought,

843
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Well i'm going to gather this evidence and all that

844
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:57.440
<v Speaker 1>was the right thing to. Do and then somewhere along the,

845
00:41:57.519 --> 00:41:59.599
<v Speaker 1>line AND i do think it was the drugs that

846
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:03.159
<v Speaker 1>made be, like, WELL i don't want to stop doing.

847
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:07.159
<v Speaker 1>DRUGS i really like doing, drugs and IF i give

848
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.400
<v Speaker 1>up this, life THEN i, Well i'll just stay with

849
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:11.880
<v Speaker 1>them do drugs until it gets, yeah till he kills

850
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:12.679
<v Speaker 1>me or somebody.

851
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:15.199
<v Speaker 2>ELSE i GUESS i agree with. You AND i also

852
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:18.440
<v Speaker 2>think there was an element of, like the police don't

853
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:21.440
<v Speaker 2>really seem to think they did, this so MAYBE i

854
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:24.199
<v Speaker 2>am kind of like the police are not acting.

855
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:27.440
<v Speaker 1>With, Urgency, no not at, all and maybe that's just

856
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>how it goes. There and can you imagine the frustration

857
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.599
<v Speaker 1>we're just used. To you, know there was enough evidence

858
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:35.000
<v Speaker 1>here in my mind to go ahead and hold these

859
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:36.599
<v Speaker 1>guys in jail and then build the.

860
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Case she says there was or, No i'm. Sorry they

861
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:47.000
<v Speaker 2>can't Find Tony, spike but they can Find robert's. Vehicle

862
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:50.239
<v Speaker 2>So robert's vehicle was the one that was involved in

863
00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:54.480
<v Speaker 2>the hit and. Run the mechanic actually had saved before

864
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:58.360
<v Speaker 2>pictures from when he fixed the, vehicle and he says

865
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:00.840
<v Speaker 2>it was a cash. Job they didn't want it. Reported

866
00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:04.840
<v Speaker 2>so this was basically a circumstantial case and a lot

867
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.920
<v Speaker 2>depended On caroline's testimony because even with the, car they

868
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:12.719
<v Speaker 2>couldn't test it for his blood or his fabric or

869
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:16.199
<v Speaker 2>the paint from the bike like they. Couldn't that's WHY

870
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:18.119
<v Speaker 2>i think they wanted the bike frame to try to

871
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:19.360
<v Speaker 2>get chips of paint of the.

872
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Car, yeah BECAUSE i think ALSO i think the bike

873
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:27.000
<v Speaker 1>frame also there was something about the bike frame that

874
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:29.280
<v Speaker 1>was so so. Important was it The was it the

875
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:31.920
<v Speaker 1>chips of paint because that the chips of The, no

876
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:36.079
<v Speaker 1>it was the piece of something from the bike was

877
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:39.400
<v Speaker 1>found in the kill. Pit it was like blue pieces of.

878
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Something was it like the?

879
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:43.519
<v Speaker 2>MENTALITY i think it was the metallic, paint wasn't.

880
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:46.280
<v Speaker 1>It, Yeah BUT i think that it was from the,

881
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:48.559
<v Speaker 1>bike not the. Car SO i think they're, like when

882
00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:51.000
<v Speaker 1>they threw him in the kill, pit it had pieces

883
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:53.360
<v Speaker 1>of the bike that were probably on his clothes or.

884
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:55.599
<v Speaker 1>Whatever so that's where, like we'll be able to match

885
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:57.639
<v Speaker 1>these pieces we pulled out of the kill pit with

886
00:43:57.800 --> 00:43:59.280
<v Speaker 1>the bike if we could find the. Bike.

887
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah she eventually just. Snaps and at one point

888
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:08.280
<v Speaker 2>he had talked about putting the bike in a, waterfall

889
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:12.559
<v Speaker 2>and the police search all these. Waterfalls don't go chasing,

890
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:16.800
<v Speaker 2>waterfalls and they can't find. Them so she. Snaps she

891
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:19.920
<v Speaker 2>sells her, flat she moves back with their, parents and

892
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:23.119
<v Speaker 2>she tells the, detectives, LIKE i have another, recording and

893
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:25.400
<v Speaker 2>this was the one where they were playing scrabble and

894
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:27.719
<v Speaker 2>he talks about throwing the bike in the waterfall and

895
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:30.840
<v Speaker 2>the police they just can't find. It they just can't find.

896
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:35.519
<v Speaker 2>It she, says you can hear me snorting coke on the,

897
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:38.079
<v Speaker 2>tape AND i didn't know if it was a, reenactment

898
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:38.639
<v Speaker 2>but we heard.

899
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:42.039
<v Speaker 1>It that's, YEAH i mean we do when we cover

900
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:45.920
<v Speaker 1>before the ninety days and we talk About joshua And,

901
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:47.800
<v Speaker 1>elise and we do a lot of.

902
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:53.079
<v Speaker 2>You, know we do a lot of he Like Alec,

903
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:58.280
<v Speaker 2>MURDOCH i do a lot of, yeah, yeah and his

904
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:01.840
<v Speaker 2>big boy mins that he keeps this little altoid. Container oh,

905
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:03.280
<v Speaker 2>yeah it's big boy.

906
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Mens, yes those are called carcasset but, yes, Yes.

907
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:11.920
<v Speaker 2>David green. Says so there's a little bit of talk

908
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:16.280
<v Speaker 2>here about the services afforded to witnesses in these types of.

909
00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:20.639
<v Speaker 2>Cases And David green, says they were only in a

910
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:24.320
<v Speaker 2>relationship for a few, months and you, know it wasn't high.

911
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:27.719
<v Speaker 2>RISK i, mean she's a, doctor she can't have mental.

912
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Illness who is this.

913
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Guy it's crazy that they said she was not in

914
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:36.800
<v Speaker 1>any sort of physical danger because she wasn't an abused.

915
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:40.199
<v Speaker 1>Woman and they will normally offer assistance in cases if

916
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:42.639
<v Speaker 1>an abused woman has turned on her, attacker and they

917
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:44.639
<v Speaker 1>would offer the which of course Again i'm, like whoa,

918
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:48.599
<v Speaker 1>wow how, amazing but that they they did not see

919
00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:54.039
<v Speaker 1>her as being abused or in any need of police

920
00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:57.800
<v Speaker 1>resources because she's just, fine she's, smart she figured. Out

921
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:01.280
<v Speaker 1>it's like wait a, minute, wait a. Minute we meet this, Woman.

922
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Francis she's a legal, advisor and she Says caroline was

923
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:11.320
<v Speaker 2>a highly vulnerable. Witness not only is she a drug

924
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:15.000
<v Speaker 2>addict at this, point, essentially but she's in danger from

925
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:19.519
<v Speaker 2>being around these, people and she has the idea that

926
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:23.559
<v Speaker 2>this entire case rests on her. Shoulders that's a dark

927
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:23.920
<v Speaker 2>place to.

928
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.519
<v Speaker 1>Be and you do wonder, too if he has sort

929
00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:30.440
<v Speaker 1>of dragged her further into this drug addiction on, Purpose,

930
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:34.199
<v Speaker 1>yeah to make her sort of an unreliable, Narrator, like

931
00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:36.280
<v Speaker 1>how can you believe? Her she's been doing drugs for

932
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:36.840
<v Speaker 1>two solid.

933
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Years it's a good. Point. Yeah the pathologist opinion is

934
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:44.199
<v Speaker 2>That Tony parsons was still live after the. Collision the

935
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:47.159
<v Speaker 2>expert opinion is it was between twenty and thirty. Minutes.

936
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah and when they said that twenty to thirty, MINUTES

937
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:53.400
<v Speaker 1>i also wondered if they were pointing that out to,

938
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:57.880
<v Speaker 1>say if an ambulance had been, Called, yep he probably

939
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.159
<v Speaker 1>could have been, saved or if they're just saying there's

940
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:01.800
<v Speaker 1>no way to save, him but he's laid there and

941
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:05.079
<v Speaker 1>suffered for twenty to thirty. Minutes, yes it's, horrible.

942
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Horrible David green tells us you could commit murder intentionally

943
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:15.400
<v Speaker 2>or by wicked, recklessness which is essentially. Manslaughter so they

944
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:19.079
<v Speaker 2>arrest the McKellen's for murder And december, first twenty twenty,

945
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.760
<v Speaker 2>first it's been eleven months since their initial. Arrest they

946
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:28.239
<v Speaker 2>are hauled in and interrogated about. This in the interrogation

947
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:31.960
<v Speaker 2>they play the recordings For. Sandy he. Stunned he had

948
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:36.519
<v Speaker 2>no idea. That, wait they did have a listening device

949
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:38.719
<v Speaker 2>in the, apartment And caroline got caught on it. Too

950
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:42.280
<v Speaker 2>that's what he was. Thinking he's, like.

951
00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:45.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, what notice she just reached in her pocket a.

952
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:47.639
<v Speaker 1>Lot BUT i just thought she was getting some more.

953
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:49.119
<v Speaker 1>COCAINE i Think.

954
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Robert is the brains in this.

955
00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:52.519
<v Speaker 1>Operation in Maybe, So maybe.

956
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:55.800
<v Speaker 2>So. Yeah they Call, caroline they let her know they've

957
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:57.639
<v Speaker 2>been arrested and you're going to be called as a,

958
00:47:57.719 --> 00:47:59.760
<v Speaker 2>witness and she's, like this is not. Good they do

959
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:02.159
<v Speaker 2>try to plead, out but the lawyer's like M. M

960
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:06.760
<v Speaker 2>the judges like, no, no. No so their lawyer believes

961
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:11.239
<v Speaker 2>the whole case was built around one witness unreliable at. Best,

962
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Now Mary, pain we can relate to. This may twenty twenty,

963
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:17.599
<v Speaker 2>Three caroline, says all great stories do not start WITH

964
00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:21.559
<v Speaker 2>i bought a box of home hair. Dye she's in crisis,

965
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:26.280
<v Speaker 2>hair crisis, hair but. Reverse normally we see crisis hair

966
00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:26.559
<v Speaker 2>going to.

967
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Platinum, yes she goes pitch.

968
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Black. Yeah, YEAH i don't even know which, character which

969
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:35.280
<v Speaker 2>storyline on Ninety day that that originated.

970
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:40.599
<v Speaker 1>With, uh, well it's there's been a lot of people

971
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:43.559
<v Speaker 1>on our. Television they have gone into crisis. Hair we've

972
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Had we Had gina On The Real, House ees OF

973
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:49.920
<v Speaker 1>oc did a platinum? BLONDE i Mean.

974
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:51.679
<v Speaker 2>Sophie Did sophie do? It on Ninety?

975
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Day sophie started with crisis hair and then she went.

976
00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Opposite but, okay that the crisis hair goes way way,

977
00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:01.800
<v Speaker 1>back way way. BACK i would have To i'd have

978
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:03.760
<v Speaker 1>to really really think about. That i'd have to look

979
00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:04.599
<v Speaker 1>at a list OF.

980
00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:08.639
<v Speaker 2>I bet you your listeners will be able to. Remember

981
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:10.400
<v Speaker 2>yeah they. WILL i hope they really become.

982
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:13.119
<v Speaker 1>It, yeah let leave a comment as to where crisis hair.

983
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Started it's when you go into crisis and dye your

984
00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:17.599
<v Speaker 1>hair platinum.

985
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Blonde, now, yes when that was all, happening my sister

986
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:23.880
<v Speaker 2>AND i had our GEN. X this is Why Little

987
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:28.079
<v Speaker 2>House podcast and we used to say Ma, Ingles caroline

988
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:31.280
<v Speaker 2>would get crisis. Hair when her hair was, down it

989
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:33.199
<v Speaker 2>was she was in. Crisis that's when she had to

990
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:35.800
<v Speaker 2>cut her leg. Off Or pa wasn't. There she's banging

991
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the handyman when it's uptight in the. Bun everything's.

992
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:43.800
<v Speaker 1>FINE i don't recall ma ingles happened to cut her leg?

993
00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Off why so don't you? Remember, no there was a whole.

994
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Episode it was so traumatic where she was going to

995
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:55.079
<v Speaker 2>have to like do something to her leg with the,

996
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:58.159
<v Speaker 2>knife and then like something happened in. It she was, saved.

997
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:01.039
<v Speaker 1>Like the guy it was in that was stuck in

998
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:01.840
<v Speaker 1>the river.

999
00:50:03.559 --> 00:50:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Because paul went to Man. Cato When paul went To,

1000
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:07.320
<v Speaker 2>mankato everything went to.

1001
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Shit, NO i don't remember.

1002
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:12.639
<v Speaker 2>That that's, terrible all, Right WELL i don't want to tell,

1003
00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:16.480
<v Speaker 2>you all. Right so the trial date is set For,

1004
00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:20.639
<v Speaker 2>july And caroline is running around filming herself with bright red, hair,

1005
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:24.559
<v Speaker 2>smoking smoking like a, chimney just always a cigarette in the.

1006
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:25.679
<v Speaker 2>Mouth was it bright?

1007
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Redd? Er was?

1008
00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:29.559
<v Speaker 2>Black it was like bright red at, first and then

1009
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:33.719
<v Speaker 2>it got to like a, burgundy like a dark almost

1010
00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:34.400
<v Speaker 2>like a purply.

1011
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:38.599
<v Speaker 1>Black, OKAY i Think i'm thinking Of black AS i.

1012
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:41.159
<v Speaker 1>WAS i might even thinking ABOUT i was watching Some

1013
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Billy oulish compilation, videos of which Was bond To. Buy

1014
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:45.280
<v Speaker 1>it could HAVE i could have Had Billie alice on the.

1015
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:48.400
<v Speaker 2>BRAIN i could be wrong, too so it might have been.

1016
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Black at some point she essentially. Spiral she, Said i'm

1017
00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:53.519
<v Speaker 2>hanging out with coke. Heads i'm on a path of.

1018
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:56.559
<v Speaker 2>Destruction mom And dad are, like we almost lost, Her

1019
00:50:56.920 --> 00:51:01.639
<v Speaker 2>like it was, dark it was. Crazy the defense attorney he's,

1020
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:05.000
<v Speaker 2>like this is an, Opening chuck. Case we're basing everything

1021
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:06.400
<v Speaker 2>on this. Girl i'm, good.

1022
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:10.079
<v Speaker 1>Which WAS i think might have Been robert And sandy's, point,

1023
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:12.920
<v Speaker 1>like let's drag her down so she looks. Unreliable once

1024
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:16.960
<v Speaker 1>he realized his brother squealed on. Him, Yeah and at.

1025
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:20.360
<v Speaker 2>One, Point, francis that woman tells us there's a procedure

1026
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:25.039
<v Speaker 2>for vulnerable. Witnesses normally we do the you, know the

1027
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:30.440
<v Speaker 2>whole testimony giving outside of the. Courtroom it's recorded and

1028
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:33.119
<v Speaker 2>then it's brought. In but they were forcing her to

1029
00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:36.519
<v Speaker 2>come in and testify and face. Them she knew she

1030
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:38.639
<v Speaker 2>was gonna be cross examined and it would be it

1031
00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:42.199
<v Speaker 2>would not be. Good, Yeah so the day finally comes

1032
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:44.519
<v Speaker 2>when she's to, testify she doesn't show up because she's

1033
00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:48.119
<v Speaker 2>fucking off to check the waterfalls for the bike Craz,

1034
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:52.400
<v Speaker 2>OKAY i need to know what happened here because she

1035
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:56.840
<v Speaker 2>says there are helicopters. Overhead she's stealing a tractor she's.

1036
00:51:56.920 --> 00:52:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Driving were the helicopters real or was it all in her? Imagination?

1037
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:03.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh you mean like When Good fellows with the helicopters?

1038
00:52:03.159 --> 00:52:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Real?

1039
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:08.559
<v Speaker 1>Yes, NO i think the helicopters were. REAL i think

1040
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:10.360
<v Speaker 1>that she went out there and because she's, Like i'm

1041
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:16.039
<v Speaker 1>on mile three of'm eighteen mile, hike AND i, think you.

1042
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Know and then she got to the. TRACTOR i was,

1043
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Like i've never driven a tractor, before got out the,

1044
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:25.280
<v Speaker 1>manual talk it hard to. DRIVE i would imagine it wouldn't.

1045
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Be you can't just crank it up with from. Driving,

1046
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:30.119
<v Speaker 1>No but then she got like halfway to the, waterfall

1047
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:32.079
<v Speaker 1>and then she said she blocked the road so the

1048
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:34.000
<v Speaker 1>cops wouldn't get, Her AND i was, like what, cops

1049
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:35.920
<v Speaker 1>it was looking for? You and then it reals they

1050
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:37.079
<v Speaker 1>were actually looking.

1051
00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:41.440
<v Speaker 2>For, her, okay BECAUSE i, was it wasn't sure they

1052
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:45.760
<v Speaker 2>did in fact find her at the, waterfall and she

1053
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:48.800
<v Speaker 2>there's part of her that's, LIKE i still don't know

1054
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:51.559
<v Speaker 2>if they really did this or, like was it all

1055
00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:54.639
<v Speaker 2>in my? Imagination girl they fond a.

1056
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:59.159
<v Speaker 1>Body, yeah SHE'S i think she's so confused at that

1057
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:01.000
<v Speaker 1>point that she's, like maybe this is all like a

1058
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:02.719
<v Speaker 1>few and MAYBE i made it up that they said,

1059
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:04.800
<v Speaker 1>that and maybe you know WHAT i. Mean she's questioning

1060
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:08.159
<v Speaker 1>everything at that point because she's, Like i'm gonna go

1061
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:10.199
<v Speaker 1>to this waterfall and she thinks that she's gonna look

1062
00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:12.239
<v Speaker 1>at the bottom of the waterfall like a rainbow with

1063
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:13.840
<v Speaker 1>a gold pot and the bike is going to be

1064
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:16.639
<v Speaker 1>there with the water pouring over. It BUT i mean

1065
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:18.880
<v Speaker 1>because she, GOES i looked at it in the way

1066
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:20.679
<v Speaker 1>that the water would, go it would be under SO

1067
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:22.360
<v Speaker 1>i was LIKE i could and this she and again

1068
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:25.199
<v Speaker 1>it's self. Filming, yes, yeah the whole.

1069
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Thing, yes she, was she, was she, was she.

1070
00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Had, snapped she'd, mentally she.

1071
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:33.000
<v Speaker 2>SAYS i was not saying she had a, break she

1072
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:37.960
<v Speaker 2>had a break from. Reality, Yes, uh she never found the.

1073
00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:41.039
<v Speaker 2>Bike she's taken a high, court she's facing prison. Time

1074
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:43.760
<v Speaker 2>mom and dad break, down. Crying dad is crying over,

1075
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:47.719
<v Speaker 2>it and all of a, sudden they changed the charges

1076
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:51.599
<v Speaker 2>from murder to. KILL i think they realized that she

1077
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:52.360
<v Speaker 2>was not a good.

1078
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:56.599
<v Speaker 1>Witness if they're basing everything on, her then, right, right.

1079
00:53:57.079 --> 00:54:00.199
<v Speaker 2>So they can plead to culpable. Homicide no, Try and

1080
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:02.719
<v Speaker 2>that's what they. Did they Let caroline leave and they're,

1081
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:05.239
<v Speaker 2>like you have no criminal charges of. Contempt you're, Good

1082
00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:09.159
<v Speaker 2>like this never, happened goodbye Wild august twenty twenty, three

1083
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:12.000
<v Speaker 2>she goes to the sentencing their, Sentence So robert is

1084
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.719
<v Speaker 2>sentenced to five years three, Month sandy to twelve. Years

1085
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:18.400
<v Speaker 2>what's going on? Here?

1086
00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:26.599
<v Speaker 1>Wait, okay WHY i don't Did? Okay one one of

1087
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:28.719
<v Speaker 1>them must have flipped on the. OTHER i, Mean robert

1088
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:33.000
<v Speaker 1>must have flipped On sandy and, Said, okay he's the

1089
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:35.440
<v Speaker 1>one that said we should, leave and he's the one

1090
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:38.360
<v Speaker 1>that said you know WHAT i. Mean that has to

1091
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:41.440
<v Speaker 1>be the reason that it turned out that most of

1092
00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:42.239
<v Speaker 1>this Was sandy's.

1093
00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Idea you, know, Yeah i'm trying To, okay wait here,

1094
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:48.679
<v Speaker 2>HERE i got, IT i got, IT i got. It,

1095
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Okay sandy, McKellar he was driving the car that Hit Tony.

1096
00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:58.519
<v Speaker 2>Parsons they're under the influence of. Alcohol there you. Go robert.

1097
00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:01.599
<v Speaker 2>McKellar he was not, driving but was present and heavily

1098
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:03.199
<v Speaker 2>involved in the subsequent cover.

1099
00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:07.079
<v Speaker 1>Up, okay because in my, Mind i'm like five years

1100
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:10.280
<v Speaker 1>for a murder is pretty good over there In. Scotland but,

1101
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:14.960
<v Speaker 1>okay so it was twelve years because he was the, driver.

1102
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:19.639
<v Speaker 2>He was the primary perpetrator who caused the, death And

1103
00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:20.960
<v Speaker 2>robert was chruched as an.

1104
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Accomplice, okay, okay, Okay but you just, think like all,

1105
00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:28.239
<v Speaker 1>along like number, one if they would have called right,

1106
00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:31.119
<v Speaker 1>away what would the sentence have? Been and number, two

1107
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:33.559
<v Speaker 1>if the judge would have taken their, plea what would

1108
00:55:33.559 --> 00:55:35.519
<v Speaker 1>the sentence have? Been would all of this have been?

1109
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Lesser you? Know?

1110
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:39.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah and what's even, interesting what's even more interesting is

1111
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:41.880
<v Speaker 2>The parsons family came out and said To, caroline, like

1112
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:45.119
<v Speaker 2>we thank you because he might father my. Husband whatever

1113
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:46.000
<v Speaker 2>never would have been.

1114
00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Found they would have never known what happened to. Him

1115
00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:51.400
<v Speaker 1>never between that pub and wherever he was to, stop

1116
00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:54.400
<v Speaker 1>where he was going for the, night they would Never

1117
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:57.440
<v Speaker 1>they didn't, FIND i, mean any evidence on the road

1118
00:55:57.840 --> 00:55:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that this accident had. HAPPENED i, mean did they pick

1119
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:03.280
<v Speaker 1>up every single tiny piece of, bumper you know WHAT i?

1120
00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:06.320
<v Speaker 2>MEAN i don't, know did we get The Karen reid

1121
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:08.639
<v Speaker 2>crew out there picking up all THE dla.

1122
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Pieces with a with a oh yeah. YEAH i mean

1123
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:15.800
<v Speaker 1>you just want there had to have been this is

1124
00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:17.039
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the. Night there had to have

1125
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:20.480
<v Speaker 1>been something on the road or on the side to

1126
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:22.000
<v Speaker 1>show that that's where that guy was.

1127
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:23.039
<v Speaker 2>HIT i.

1128
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Agree were that truck driver that like the? Light they

1129
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:28.000
<v Speaker 1>were blinded by those, lights AND i mean the truck

1130
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:29.480
<v Speaker 1>driver could have seen something in his rear.

1131
00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:34.119
<v Speaker 2>View. Yeah. Yeah Crazy caroline is in. Therapy now she's

1132
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:36.920
<v Speaker 2>met someone who she describes as kind and, healthy and

1133
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:39.360
<v Speaker 2>she's repaired her relationship with her. Family AND i just

1134
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:42.639
<v Speaker 2>want to say the end song is. FANTASTIC i think

1135
00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:45.400
<v Speaker 2>it's Called change By Big. Thief it was really. GOOD

1136
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:49.360
<v Speaker 2>i enjoyed. It. Sober, yeah she's. Sober so that's where we.

1137
00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:52.159
<v Speaker 2>END i mean it was now That i'm recapping, it

1138
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:54.480
<v Speaker 2>it was pretty. Wild it was.

1139
00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Wild there were so Many swiston. Turns, yeah and even

1140
00:56:58.000 --> 00:56:59.840
<v Speaker 1>just listening to, you like telling me, THINGS i was,

1141
00:56:59.880 --> 00:57:02.719
<v Speaker 1>like oh, yeah oh, yeah oh, Yeah and that's what

1142
00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:05.400
<v Speaker 1>made me realize talking to, you like the reason he

1143
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:07.719
<v Speaker 1>only wanted to get a coffee at that place and

1144
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:11.840
<v Speaker 1>not take the room Because i'm sure a lot he

1145
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:13.159
<v Speaker 1>had it all mapped.

1146
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Out, yeah we have a local weather guy who does

1147
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:17.960
<v Speaker 2>something like. This he does a big charity bike, ride

1148
00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:21.960
<v Speaker 2>and you're, right like is certain hotels put him, up

1149
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:25.199
<v Speaker 2>he has certain, stops he makes people gather, There so

1150
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:28.519
<v Speaker 2>you're absolutely. Right he was probably do in town the

1151
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:30.400
<v Speaker 2>next day and how to get.

1152
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:33.159
<v Speaker 1>There, YEAH i do in that. Town and then also

1153
00:57:33.480 --> 00:57:36.679
<v Speaker 1>from THAT a TO, b the fact that they didn't

1154
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:38.679
<v Speaker 1>find anything on the road to me because they weren't

1155
00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:41.559
<v Speaker 1>really looking that, hard because they could have scoured all

1156
00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:43.440
<v Speaker 1>of that road and found some evidence that there was

1157
00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:47.000
<v Speaker 1>an accident right at that. Spot, yeah in my, mind

1158
00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:50.639
<v Speaker 1>BUT i don't. KNOW i don't, Know Mary.

1159
00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Payne should we take them in it and tell each

1160
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:54.800
<v Speaker 2>other's audiences what we're.

1161
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:58.199
<v Speaker 1>Doing let's do. That you go, first you tell.

1162
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Me, okay if you're listening On, shade you may know me.

1163
00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Already you should Yumpink. SHADE i. Am i'm the host

1164
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:09.599
<v Speaker 2>of murder she watched where we solve murders from our.

1165
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Couches we. Do we're Doing Tiger king right, now and

1166
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:18.679
<v Speaker 2>we're doing making a. Murderer two really important cases to

1167
00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:22.559
<v Speaker 2>seminal documentaries in the true crime genre and we're having a.

1168
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:26.519
<v Speaker 1>Blast So i'm listening To making A. Murderer, yes oh my,

1169
00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:29.239
<v Speaker 1>god it's wild right, yeah, WELL i Mean i've watched,

1170
00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:30.519
<v Speaker 1>it But i'd forgotten so much of.

1171
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:33.760
<v Speaker 2>It and we're getting the wiscants and. Accents. Damn, really

1172
00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:41.519
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of. Them oh, yeah don't go wauch, yeah. Weird, yeah, yeah, Yeah,

1173
00:58:41.800 --> 00:58:42.320
<v Speaker 2>okay your.

1174
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Turn well you also have a podcast podcast Called Little

1175
00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:48.000
<v Speaker 1>mistercap don't forget about that ONE i.

1176
00:58:48.159 --> 00:58:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Do and if you're a Big Sister wives, fan come

1177
00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:51.719
<v Speaker 2>on over Waters warm, now.

1178
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah for your murder she watched. AUDIENCE i Cover, mondays

1179
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:00.719
<v Speaker 1>we Do Much. Shop, monday we Do Love after Lock.

1180
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Up right, now we're on a little break and we

1181
00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:05.519
<v Speaker 1>just Covered ladies Of london and for the next three

1182
00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:08.360
<v Speaker 1>weeks we're going to be covering the six part documentary

1183
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:12.480
<v Speaker 1>that appears On hbox Called neighbors that's a little murderous

1184
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:16.760
<v Speaker 1>if you're. Interested And tuesdays we DO. Tlc tuesdays we

1185
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:18.960
<v Speaker 1>cover the main ninety day, show And THURSDAYS i Cover.

1186
00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Bravo it's Called pop And, bravo AND i have a

1187
00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:25.719
<v Speaker 1>different host Every thursday To chat ninety nine Percent bravo

1188
00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:28.719
<v Speaker 1>unless there's like a crazy pop culture, story and THEN

1189
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:30.920
<v Speaker 1>i cover the Second dairy ninety day show on the

1190
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:35.199
<v Speaker 1>weekends With kimberly from a day With. Dayline and Also

1191
00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:37.920
<v Speaker 1>i'm Doing welcome To platfel on The Free feed And

1192
00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:42.159
<v Speaker 1>welcome to plathfill rewatch, o which is so, fun which

1193
00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:46.920
<v Speaker 1>is it's my brain is so scrambled doing a rewatch

1194
00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:49.000
<v Speaker 1>at the same time that a new season is. Airing

1195
00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:54.079
<v Speaker 1>that's tough because also the exact same things. Happen do

1196
00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:55.440
<v Speaker 1>you use nobody learns any?

1197
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Lessons do you consider yourself BECAUSE i KNOW i. DO

1198
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:02.360
<v Speaker 2>i Think i'm like a plot. Filx oh, yeah, yeah.

1199
01:00:03.719 --> 01:00:05.679
<v Speaker 1>One question you could ask me THAT i wouldn't know the.

1200
01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Answer. Yeah amanda is definitely A Sister wives, expert And

1201
01:00:10.360 --> 01:00:13.119
<v Speaker 2>i'm pretty good With Sister. Wives but like, Plathvill i've got.

1202
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:15.760
<v Speaker 1>It, well that's why this SEASON i was, like all,

1203
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:17.800
<v Speaker 1>right it's a new season and we're gonna do. It

1204
01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:20.119
<v Speaker 1>but then because you've got your own you know, thing

1205
01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:22.039
<v Speaker 1>AND i was, like, oh it's, LIKE i hate for

1206
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:23.679
<v Speaker 1>you not to do it with. Me But kimberly is

1207
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:27.159
<v Speaker 1>interested and it has also watched it all And kimberly

1208
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:29.519
<v Speaker 1>is great and you said we'll always have flat.

1209
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Pill yeah all, right, well thank, You Mary. Pain this

1210
01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:35.920
<v Speaker 2>has been. Fun thank you So, Amy thank.

1211
01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:38.360
<v Speaker 1>YOU i love doing episodes with. You it always just

1212
01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:41.199
<v Speaker 1>makes me happy and saying to the good brings me

1213
01:00:41.320 --> 01:00:43.079
<v Speaker 1>back to the good old. Days Yeah MeOH and should

1214
01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:45.960
<v Speaker 1>we Tell, yeah let's tell people. Too we are doing

1215
01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:49.280
<v Speaker 1>a little mis recap. Murder she Watched Pink shade meet

1216
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:52.239
<v Speaker 1>up In New York City october. Tent details will be.

1217
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Forthcoming yeah it.

1218
01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Is it Is libra, Themed libra.

1219
01:00:56.840 --> 01:01:01.119
<v Speaker 1>Themed we are finalizing the, details but our joint meetup

1220
01:01:01.199 --> 01:01:04.880
<v Speaker 1>will Be, Saturday october, Tenth so just our market on your,

1221
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:07.519
<v Speaker 1>calendar come To New york and we will give you

1222
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:09.639
<v Speaker 1>the details as soon as we nail them all.

1223
01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Down And i'm just. Waiting you, know anytime That kimberly

1224
01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:17.519
<v Speaker 2>should fall ill or something should happen To kimberly that

1225
01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:20.000
<v Speaker 2>you need a plath person to just tag.

1226
01:01:20.119 --> 01:01:22.920
<v Speaker 1>In i'm, HERE i, KNOW i know that you're here

1227
01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:25.559
<v Speaker 1>for me for the. Platoffs But kimberly has not fallen,

1228
01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:26.599
<v Speaker 1>ill and we don't wish that on.

1229
01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Her, no we do. Not even though she's not a,

1230
01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:30.400
<v Speaker 2>libro we still wish her.

1231
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Well we start. Sure thank, YOU i