Speaker 1: And hello, how are you happy Tuesday to you? Today
is the sixth day of January, year of our lower
twenty twenty six. Yeah, it's jan sixth, the fifth anniversary
of the What do you want to call it? Some
people get mad if you call it an insurrection, but
if you look up the definition of insurrection, it seems
to fit. Others say it's a it was a riot.
Others say it was a protest. So whatever you like.
Because one of the things on five years later is
we still don't I mean a lot of us I
just don't agree on what happened on this day five
years ago. The nation is still divided over not only
what happened, but why it happened. So we'll get into
a little bit of that as we go through the
program today. I want to start. I've got a couple
of things I want to tell you about Jason Lewis,
who you may remember after my filling in for Rush
for years for a decade, more than a decade, and
then I went to Fox. Then Jason Lewis out of Minneapolis,
became the main fill in on Russia's show. And since
Jason has a long background back represented Minnesota in Congress,
so I want to reach out to him about what
is going on in Minnesota. We've got those. We've also
got a surprise, a sad surprise. Doug LaMalfa, who was
a congressman from northern California for years, passed away this morning.
So we have a little bit of a look back
and a tribute from the President about Doug LaMalfa. We'll
get to all of that today. Let me start with
Venezuela and Denmark and where else is Canada still going
to be the fifty first date or not? Iran? We
got a lot of things, oh in Colombia, the Colombian president,
So there's a lot of focus on lots of different
things out there. But we'll get into Wolso Harriet and
has some reporting on are the Republicans split? Because I
keep hearing these reports about the fact that in the
Maga world there are a bunch of Maga people that
are not happy because the President is not focusing on
America first. He's focusing all on again Denmark and Venezuela
and Iran and Canada and what about us? What about
our cost of broccoli? I mean, you go, you go
through all of that. So we got we got a
lot to get into. But let me start with just
the military aspect of it, and then we'll get into
the legal aspect, which is still lots of questions and
no answers because we don't know how the people of Venezuela.
We don't know about the installed leadership there, what they're
going to do. How is everybody going to react to this,
because I think when we start talking about oil and
there's a lot of focus on their oil, Venezuela has
more oil reserves than Saudi Arabia. They're the biggest oil
reserves in the world. It used to be, well, take
a look at Saudi Arabia, one of the wealthiest countries
in the world, and Venice Whala is one of the
poorest countries in the world because Hugo Chavez and Maduro
Nicholas Maduro stole all that money and where is that money?
So we'll get into all of it. But let me
start was just the fact that the operation that our
military pulled off, which was incredible. General Keane has his observations.
Speaker 2: You know, well, I think you know, there was obviously
some remarkable decisions made here. Sell me in capturing and
extracting Maduro in of itself, which led to a very
complicated operation that was executed flawlessly, and we all applauded.
And then came the next decision that the administration made
was not to depose the rest of the regime, which
would have taken a physical presence by the United States
military to be able to do that. And I think
they've got some sense, you know, as reported publicly from
our Central Intelligence Agency. It made me make more sense
given the success of the military operation, that will have
such leverage even with the Madua remnants. Now the acting President,
the Defense Minister, and Kibelo, who runs the Interior Ministry,
and he's the main instrument to repress the people. The
Defense Minister is also an indictment, as is the Minister
of Interior. And they are thugs and killers, to be sure,
and they got blood all over their hands, so these
are evil people. But nonetheless, the thought was it would
be better to maybe, given the fact that we have
coercion here, to intimidate them and bend them to our
will is a much better option than trying to depose
them and the military and also will take some time.
At the same time, resistance to that would likely take
place so that option is always there, and I think
they made the right call here. There's certainly obvious risk
associated with it, because at some point Rodriguez, Petrino or
Cabello could decide, well, I'm not going along with the
plans anymore.
Speaker 3: But listen.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would assuming we're having direct conversations with
all three of them, and I would imagine those conversations
are quite pointed in terms of here are expectations. A
political objective, you're going to help us enable elections, security objectives.
No more narco trafficking, no more repressing the people with
Columbian gangs and other militias and the military itself.
Speaker 3: That is over.
Speaker 2: We're not going to distribute oil to our adversaries, and
going on down that list, this is what we intend
for you to do. Anything short of that, we're likely
going to apply some leverage and listen in the back
of their minds if we haven't told them directly. Is
the fact that's so obvious. If we can penetrate where
Maduro was sleeping with his wife and do that in
three minutes, we can deal with any one of these three,
not only capture them, but obviously kill them. If we
have to and certainly that has got to be in
their minds as they're making their decisions. It is still
fraught with risk, and certainly the administration understands that, but
so would be a physical presence of our forces on
the ground as well.
Speaker 1: So the key takeaway there it is fraught with risk.
But if you're going to have all these options, General
Keen thinks of sticking with the Maduro people. They know
that we could make life miserable for them. More than miserable,
we could make it worse than Maduro. So we have
the up hand on that. The trick here, and it
goes into all these other things about oil and some
of the minerals and everything else, is we have to
take the role of the big brother to come in
and help them, a system, the angel to come in
and help them and set that country back up onto
a road to riches. If we go in and start
claiming that we own their minerals and we own their oil,
and we're going to look like the big bully. And
the people of Venezuela are probably very supportive of us
and thankful for us, but that will go away quickly
if we start acting like we own their assets. So
that was the military side. From the legal side, Jim Schultz,
former White House lawyer, he talks about Maduro's defenses.
Speaker 4: In to start off with the judge tamp down his
rhetoric right away. So this wasn't the right place in
the right time, and the judge was right about that.
There is going to be a time to make legal arguments.
I think what Maduro was getting at, and what his
lawyers have already signaled, is that they're looking at the
violation of the UN Charter and argue that there was
a violation of the UN Charter and therefore a violation
of international law, and therefore that this was some type
of an illegal act on the part of the United
States that would prohibit him from being arrested.
Speaker 3: That's nonsense.
Speaker 1: So here's why.
Speaker 4: So the UN Charter is, you know, the United States,
under US law is permitted to go in and make
an arrest in another country for someone who commits a
crime against the United States, and they are permitted to
do so with the protection of the military. That's been
long standing law. There was a nineteen eighty nine opinion
authored by then Office of Legal Counsel at DOJ Bill Barr,
which said precisely that Fourth Amendment rights are not violated
as a result of going in. It's not an illegal search,
it's not an illegal seizure. By going in and taking
someone out of one country and bringing the United State
dates for justice to be served here in the United States,
that's perfectly lawful to do what they will argue also
argues that he is a head of state, and the
question is to whether someone's ahead of state. The real
question is does the United States of America recognize that
person as a head of state. I think Secretary of
State Rubio has made very clear that it was not
a legitimate government, that he was not a legitimate head
of state. He could say it all he wants in
the hearing before the judge. That doesn't make it true.
And I think it's a very uphill battle for the
defense team here to make those arguments.
Speaker 1: So the argument's being kicked around is was this a
military exercise or was this a law enforcement exercise. Mike
Walter's of the UN Ambassador was addressing the United Nations
yesterday with this.
Speaker 5: As Secretary Rubio has said, there is no war against
Venezuela or its people. We are not occupying a country
this was a law enforcement operation.
Speaker 1: So that from our UN ambassador, and then the Speaker
of the House, Mike Johnson also weighed in.
Speaker 6: But terry operation in Venezuela was a decisive and justified
action with regard to the war powers and the compliance
with federal law. We are not at war. We do
not have US armed forces in Venezuela, and we are
not occupying that country. This is not a regime change.
This is a demand for change of behavior by a regime.
Speaker 1: Well, Turo, we don't have boots on the ground. We
got boots at sea, something like fifteen thousand sailors marines.
Back to Jim Schultz.
Speaker 4: At its core, this was a law enforcement operation and
arrest was made. The former president and the president Maduro
or you know it was Modua was arrested, his wife
was arrested. They were brought to the United States. They
were charged in the United States. At its core, this
was law enforcement operation, you know, advanced by the military
to protect that law enforcement operation. That's perfectly fine to
the law, and there is no there is no requirement
that they go in brief Congress, notwithstanding the fact that
there is some violation of the sovereignty there a lawful
violation of the sovereignity of that country in order to
go in and make that arrest. That being said, I'm
sure Congress is rightfully going to have a lot of
questions about what happens next in that country because the
person we arrested was, you know, was the person who
was running the country, even though he was illegitimately running
the country and not recognized as someone that was running
the country and unlawfully running that country. You know, I
think that at this point in time, because he was
the person there taken out, we have a new person
that was sworn in as an acting president, so you
have those issues to deal with, and what we do
with that country going forward is something that Congress and
the executive branch are going to have to have a
lot of discussions about.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's the understate of the day. The Congress and
the President are going to have a lot of discussions
about this and want to get to the court, which
a lot of the lawyers say it's going to take
a year before they even get in front of the
court to decide all these questions. So that's why I
come to you again today with I've got a lot
of questions, many many more questions. I don't have a
lot of answers. We've got to wait to see what
people are going to do. The lady who was the winner,
the proxy winner of the election last year to be president,
Maria Corina Machado, she also a lot of people asking
why are we not installing her? Oh, she very very well,
maybe someday, But I think what we're going to be
pushing the current group is to get elections started, and
they can't take place next week. That's going to take
months for putting that together as well. But you can
tell that Maria Karina Marchado is being nice about how
President Trump pulled this whole thing off.
Speaker 7: I do want to say today on behalf of the
Venislan people, how grateful we are for his sturageous vision,
the actions historic elections he has taken against these Narcolo
terrorist regime to start dismantling this structure and bringing Madudo
to justice, which means that thirty million Venezuelans are now
closer to freedom, but also that the United States of
America is a safer country nowadays.
Speaker 1: Other that was a big thank you, thank you America.
She's waiting in the wings to see whether or not
they can get an election going and hope that she
can win that thing again. As far as the overall
support behind this, Harry Enton, the statistician over at CNN,
has these results.
Speaker 8: It's been a dramatic change in a direction that I
think the President of the United States will like. Because
what are we looking out here? Okay, US military ousting Maduro?
Pre ousting, what you saw was the clear plurality of
Americans opposed at forty seven percent, just twenty one percent support.
Come over to this side of the screen after the ousting.
Look at that the support through the roof. Now we're
talking about thirty seven percent, well within the margin of
error right here of the opposition thirty eight percent. It
turns out Americans like what they deem to be successful
foreign policy operations, and in this case, they view the
ousting Maduro, at least up to this point as a
success want and therefore the support way up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so people like it. What about putting Maduro,
bringing him to the United States to put him on
trial here.
Speaker 8: Part of the reason why I think that the success
number is way up. And you saw it here. What
was it was twenty six points in favor of opposition
now within the margin of error, is because they simply
put don't like Nicholas Mduro. In fact, they believe that
he should be on trial for drug trafficking. Look at this,
fifty percent of Americans favor compared to just fourteen percent
who opposed, So there are very few Americans here who
oppose it. Even among Democrats, the opposition number is below
Get this, just twenty four percent is below twenty five percent.
So this is something that unites Republicans, it divides Democrats,
and at this particular point, support for the operation way up.
And in terms of those who favor the drug trafficking
trial for Madureau, that is a clear plar outle. And
over time it turns out that Americans like success. That
is what they like in Forum posse. They like success,
and it's not just so far in Venezuela. We can
go back to those Iran strikes right in the middle
of last year and take a look here net approval
for the US air strikes on those Iran nuclear facilities
and June the net approval rating was minus nine points,
but by July it was plus four points. So I
think the two major US operations overseas militarily, those airstrikes
on Iran and so far what we're seeing in Venezuela.
Both of those, the American people were quite skeptical at
first and then came much more around to it, much
more around to Donald Trump's point of view once the
military chuk action.
Speaker 1: So people are supportive. They seem to be, but this
says a long road to go, and they'll be twisting
turns and some people will be upset about it and
some won't. I go back again to how we handle
this is going to be very delicate. If we come
in as the big brother to help them put their
country back on the road to riches and the people
will benefit from all of that, then it's going to
be a big celebration. If we go in and say
we want your oil, I think they will be feeling
like we are taking advantage of them. So we'll see.
Another country that's pushing back is Denmark because the President
has been making more comments about we need to get Denmark.
Stephen Miller even chimed in about the fact that it's necessary.
Speaker 9: For the United States to secure the Arctic region to
protect and defend NATO and NATO interests obviously Greenland should
be part of the United States. And so that's a
conversation that we're going to have as a country, that's
the process we're going to have as a as a
community of nation.
Speaker 1: So he's pretty clear about the fact that it's a
conversation that we're going to have. That's that's the fun,
that's that's good to hear that there will be a conversation.
But remember, Denmark is a NATO nation and Greenland is
belongs to the Kingdom of Denmark, and Denmark, like I said,
being a NATO nation, then the NATO rule comes in
about if one, if anybody attacks any NATO nation, all
the other NATO nations must come together to attack the attacker.
So this is this is I don't know if the
president is pulling people's ropes just to try to see
if they can get a reaction. I don't know about
about Steven Miller what he's thinking at all, but I
don't I mean, there's lots of ways to be involved
with Denmark. In Denmark, especially Greenland could use investment. And
if they have minerals, which we know they do, and
they have all kinds of wonderful things that we would
like to have access to then let's set up some
joint venture, have companies go in, spend lots of money there.
It'll make them richer, and we will get what we
want without having to take over a country. I don't
know where all this is going. I'm uncomfortable with it.
I don't like it. One other news item I do
not like is the whole business about Minnesota. I don't
think they're alone. I think there's other states as well
that have had lots of government fraud. But the fraud
in Minnesota has been so blatant and so clear that
it's awfully hard to look the other way. Michael Holt
is a state senator in the state of Minnesota. This
is what he has to say about about Tim Wall
saying that he's not going to run for real life.
That was the news that broke yesterday. And so Tim
Wall says he's going to stay for the rest of
his term, but he's not going to run for re election.
Does this Michael Holtz think that that will help him.
Speaker 10: He thinks that that doing this is going to get
him off the hook. And the reality is it's not
good enough. Minnesotans deserve and demand an immediate resignation. And honestly,
to that point, Donald Trumping, the dj should be looking
at charges.
Speaker 1: So the state Senator Michael Holt says, this won't get
him off the hook. Here's a whistleblower by the name
of Scott Stillman who talks a little bit about what
he's seen.
Speaker 11: I was a deputy sheriff with the Washington County Sheriff's Department.
I was a detective in My job was to investigate
computer crimes. Some of the things that I worked on
they were daycare frauds based out of hart Many Human
Services and they were significant. They were overwhelming. The dollar
amounts were upwards a fifteen million. I was overwhelmed with
the data that I was received.
Speaker 1: So Liz Colin is a reporter in Minneapolis and she's
been following this fraud for years. This is her latest
update on what's going on in that state.
Speaker 12: Few wild weeks here in Minnesota, and we are getting,
since it's certainly not over by any means, all hands
on deck from the federal government. As we've heard these
multiple investigations ongoing. You're right, the Walls has been in
office seven years as governor, but we're hearing again and
again that you know, this goes very deep. I've personally
done reporting on this for more than a decade. It's
been in the news cycle in some way, shape or form.
But we've heard back then ten years ago that these
cases simply were not prosecuted. That has changed and there
have been many prosecutions here these last few years in Minnesota.
So now that Governor Tim Walls has made it official
that he is not running for reelection, will there be
some kind of swap with Senator Amy Klobashar running for
governor in Minnesota? Will Walls avoid any accountability in this?
But this really does run very deep, and it's easy
to see how many people could perhaps be involved when
this is baked in in many cases in our legislation.
Speaker 1: So apparently this isn't a surprise to anybody. The investigators
have been investigating and have found all kinds of fraud.
One time after another, they turned it over, they send
it to the prosecutors, and apparently nothing gets nothing happens.
But I mean, there's no question this has been found.
The fraud has been found over and over and over,
and everybody looks a different way as a blind eye heard.
Speaker 12: You know, from TSA agents. We've heard from HSI investigators
back then that they would they would turn this over
again and again, they would document this, they would spend
months on task forces going out and investigating these daycares.
Turn these cases is then over to prosecutors where they've
failed to prosecute. And we're hearing from a lot of
those folks now, but two thousand Homeland Security investigators on
the ground. Now we've heard federal money has been frozen
as well, pouring into some of these programs in the past.
So a lot has happened just in the last couple
of weeks, whereas it seemed so much did not a
decade ago.
Speaker 1: So Amy Klobucharate, the Senator from Minnesota, she is apparently
being asked to run for governor, or maybe she wants
to run for governor. So what does she think about
this whole mess?
Speaker 13: He tries to stoke division and make people hate each other.
Speaker 3: And here are the facts. In the state of Minnesota.
Speaker 13: You have a state which he also condemned. Our entire
state is in the top five for Fortune five hundred
companies per capita. Then decided to blame the Somalian population
eighty thousand of which, by the way, work in our schools,
work in our airports, help take care of our seniors,
and are the vast majority of which are citizens of
the United States of America.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's nice, but was there criminal activity taking place
with any of anybody, some allions or non some alliens.
Speaker 12: Well, you know, Republican lawmakers have called Minnesota government a
racketeering operation. Some are calling for a forensic audit of
Minnesota's state budget to get to the bottom of all this.
But I've seen this for myself. There is no this
fraud really has been out in the open. I've seen
these empty businesses for myself. I've seen the luxury vehicles
parked outside. And what's interesting is, I can't tell you
the dramatic difference we have seen at some of these
sites since that viral video from a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: We have busloads of children on site.
Speaker 12: Now we're doing these spot checks as well, So there
certainly has been a difference. And if there was nothing
to hide before, then why this increase in activity, I guess.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 1: The other day I got an email from Mark who
reminded me of about Jason Lewis. Jason was a talk
show host of Minneapolis, and he also was after I
had gone to Fox. I couldn't do fill ins for
Rush anymore. Jason Lewis was one of the main villains
on the Rush Limbaugh Show. I knew of him from that,
but then he ran for Congress and won, so he
was a congressman in Minneapolis. Well, let me play. I
called him up when we had a nice conversation. This
is two days ago, and there's a clipping in this
conversation that I'll play for you of him back in
twenty eighteen raising Cain about the fact that that was
so much fraud being reported in Minneapolis and Minnesota back
in twenty eighteen. Here is my conversation with Jason Lewis.
First of all, tell me what you're up to.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what. I love Minnesota. My mother was
born and raised in Minnesota. I did my career in
talk radio in Minnesota, and I represented Minnesota. But now
I've escaped. Well, I am in Florida. Been in Florida
since twenty three.
Speaker 1: So that's so nice because you're you're not up to
your ears in snow today, so good for you.
Speaker 3: Oh it's horrible, and I got tired of the snow
and it was a little bit of sort. I told
you so aspect to it. Tom, to be honest with you,
the famous Blue state exodus, that's happening. Thought sometimes you
gotta you've got to put your feet where your mouth is.
And so all left and said enough and it's getting
worse and worse. So you know, it wasn't like we
didn't warn them.
Speaker 1: Well I, I, uh, you talked to me. I had
the brilliant idea of moving from California to New York.
What did.
Speaker 3: Stepping out of the from be I got the.
Speaker 1: Wrong directions I should have. There was a right turn
in there to go to Florida, but I missed it anyway.
Speaker 3: So well, you know they always say, if hell shits's over,
that's New York. Hell is over.
Speaker 1: That's true. So you've got you. I knew of you
from the fact that you and I belonged to a
very small exclusive club. We both were fill in the
host for the Rush Limbaugh Show, and it was it
was an honor and a treat to do that. But
that's how I was first introduced to you. I heard
you doing Russia show one day and I thought, man,
this guy's good. I liked it. Well.
Speaker 3: It's kind of a small club and a close knit one,
even though often, as in our case, we didn't meet.
I think I only met Rush once.
Speaker 1: Oh you're kidding, wow, because he would.
Speaker 3: I mean naturally when I was in New York even.
Speaker 1: Gone, that's right. I mean, when you fill in for him,
it's because he's not there, so that that makes all
all the sense in the world. But I knew about
the fact you were big success in Minneapolis Saint Paul,
and then you were syndicated by Premier, which is part
of the iHeart family. And then I thought, where you
are You Are you doing a podcast? Did you fall
into the same trap.
Speaker 3: I thought I was just going to do early retirement
and write. I do enjoy writing, written a couple of books,
and write my substack Newslaughter still to this day. So
I thought I would do that. But then this congressional
seat opened up, and I thought, you know, maybe again,
you got to put your money where your mouth is.
And I opted to run for Congress and we shocked
a lot of people in twenty sixteen and actually won.
First thing I did the next morning was demand or recount,
but we so we did that, and then after I
ran for the Senate in twenty twenty, And there's some
interesting aspects to that in Minnesota, given that I totaled
the most votes of any statewide Minnesota candidate in history.
I think it still holds to one point four million,
and yet we lost, were lost by one hundred and
fifteen hundred and sixty thousand votes. Well, if you look
at the Somali block, it's about one hundred thousand now.
So there are some questions starting to be raised about
how bad Minnesota's ballot integrity really was. And I can
tell you I wrote about it in my book Party Animal.
It was horrible. Sixty percent, not six, sixty percent of
all ballots in twenty twenty in Minnesota were absentee ballots.
Then the Secretary of State, Mister Simon, cut a deal,
a consent decree with a number of left wing activist
groups to remove the witness signature requirements, to extend deadlines,
to do all of things.
Speaker 14: And so as all of these things sort of come
to fruition or come to come to light now, it
does have me wondering just how close we might have
been or who knows.
Speaker 3: Well I'm in that.
Speaker 1: I mean, people look at me, and they call me
a you know, an old coadure or whatever, because I
do not I understand the mail in ballot thing is
easy for a lot of people. And I grew up
in Seattle, so state of Washington is one of the first.
Oregon was first, Washington followed pretty closely with mail in mandatory.
Everybody gets a mail in ballot and that's what right.
But to me, if you really think voting is important,
get off your pink pillow and go down to your
local firehouse or wherever you vote and and do your thing.
Speaker 3: But well, of course, and you you know, voting is
both a right and a privilege. If you have the
right to vote, illegal citizens don't. If you do have
the right to vote, it is a privilege, But if
you don't have it, it's not a privilege. So I'm
tired of these people talking about voting is an inherent right. No,
it's a privilege, and then it's the right. So and
we don't get that. And so when you add you know,
Minnesota they have same day SDRs, what it's called same
day registration where if you bring someone who can vouch
for you, not a bill, not an ID, not a picture,
someone who is willing to vouch. They can cast about it.
So yet a storm.
Speaker 1: It is a perfect storm. So I don't I don't know.
I don't know the whole thing about the Somali community.
They're getting a lot of grief right now. And I mean,
I mean, I'm I'm in New York City, man. This
is like ethnic neighborhood one, two, three, four, five down
the list. And they're fine. They do what they do
and they enjoy their company and their ethnic grocery stores
and all that sort of stuff. But what's with the
Somalis in Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a classic case. And why at one point
in our history we had immigration quotas do you mention
New York and the old Ellis Island era, we would
have never let a super large community is established in
a small state. You went to the melting bottom of
New York and then there were still limits on the numbers.
And what that did, tom as you well know, is
it forced people to assimilate. So, yeah, they've got their
ethnicity and they've got their grocery stores and that's all wonderful,
but they became Americans. Well, when you transplant a large
number of people from Somalia from Mogadishu, who don't understand
American history, who don't abide by American history, who don't
treasure American history, and you put them in large enough
numbers where they can take over an entire neighborhood in
Minneapolis called Cedar Riverside and it's literally called Little Mogadishu. Now,
the failure of assimilation becomes acute. And that is what's
happening under these refugee programs. Not only are we taking
in people who are not political refugees, they're just in
gang torn communities or in violence prone neighborhoods. Well, that
was never the intent of the United Nations refugee admissions program.
I mean it was for people from Cuba who had
been persecuted for their politics. So what we had there
or what we still have there, is a number so
large that it's sort of taking on a life of
its own. And then you give politicians like Walls who
see it as a voting block. Jacob Fry, the mayor
of Minneapolis, he's in his voting block. So they're not
going to be good stewards of the taxpayer, they're not
going to be watchdogs. They are going to curry favor
with these people, and they're getting away with a very
large scandal that everybody knew about going back to twenty seventeen,
twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you about that. What sparked my
reason to reach out to you, Jason Is. I got
an email from a gentleman by the name of Mark
Wise and he said, he said, I've been listening to
your show for over ten years. I used to listen
to Jason Lewis's show before he became a congressman, So
that would be an interesting conversation because he said, I
raised a good question about Tom Emmer and the other
Parlazota ren taste, and so I did. The other day
I was talking, I said, well, Emmer was talking about
the politicians in Minnesota. Why are they're sleep of this witch?
And I thought, well, wait a minute, you're a politician.
And Jason Shavitt was hosting to Talk a Box show
the other day and had Emmer on and asked him saying, hey,
Basically he said, what were you What were you doing?
So what do you make of all that?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not going to speak for Tom, but I
can tell you what I was doing at a house
Educational Workforce Committee hearing. I told the country about this
scandal back in twenty eighteen, and I said, there are
daycare centers being defrauded with a kickback to a parent
who pretends to have a child. They get the money
from the government, federal, end state, and then they send
it off through MSP Airport. And I said it in committee,
and it's on.
Speaker 1: You know, that's really all right? All right, hold on
just a second. Let me see if I can engineer
this whole thing, because what Mark sent me was a
connection from a woman named Liz Collins. Let's see if
we can bring this up. This is you in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 15: Situation in my home state of Minnesota, where we've got
a number of daycare providers that are openly violating federal
and state laws and regulations, taking money for personal use,
using the money to set up a fraudulent childcare client,
and then providing a kickback. Has been reported. This is
a major issue. There are allegations that well, not just several,
You've got twenty three childcare daycare centers either closed or
under investigation. The fraud may go as high as one
hundred million dollars. Now, think about that in fiscal year
twenty eighteen, Minnesota received one hundred and twenty million in
federal funding. The state contributed about fifty million and matching
and maintenance funds. And we may have a fraud case
of nearly one hundred million in this state, with money
then being transferred out of the country via MSP airport.
This is a big issue in my home state of Minnesota.
Can you share with me what your agency is doing
to investigate this? And I'm just wondering if we could
not come up with some form of stricter enforcement to
monitor the states that are receiving these funds, to make
certain that there's some sort of oversight here. This is
very thank you for your testimony today.
Speaker 1: How you Beck, Thank you very much. Mister Lewis, Well,
there you go. That's twenty eighteen. And what's fascinating about
you also brought up you were representing, of course, your
district in Minnesota, but I'm hearing the state of Washington,
state of California. I suspect this is going on wherever everywhere.
Speaker 3: Well think about it. I said, one hundred million, that'd
be a bargain compared to what they're uncovering today. Yes,
so had somebody paid attention to this, had somebody done
something about it. I tried to bring it to the forefront.
I asked for an investigation, and of course I lost
in twenty eighteen. So my successor, Representative, Angie Craig came
in and dropped it like a lead balloon, and all
in the rest of the Minnesota delegation did Tina Smith,
Amy Kobishar, obviously Tim Walls. These people were in on
the link and nod Tom had to be That's what
everybody's going, Oh my gosh, why didn't they do something
because it was benefiting them? As I mentioned earlier, they
looked at these people as one hundred thousand person voting block.
Speaker 1: Do they operate like some of the teachers' unions where
they collect their money together and they support a Democrat
ninety nine point nine percent of the time, and then
the Democrat gets elected and then here comes a gravy train.
Is that the way it works?
Speaker 3: Well? Not really. The difference is that is legal fraud.
What the public unions do when they lack people, They
then go and negotiate their contract. Think about that for
uson I know, I think any first year law student
would see that as a conflict of interest. You elect
Tim Walls, then you sit down across from the negotiating
table with him. What do you think he's going to do?
Speaker 13: Right?
Speaker 3: But that's sensibly legal. This is more undercover. This is
more under the table stuff. As as the scandal is
now revealing.
Speaker 1: Well, and the money, they're accusing the Somali community in
Minnesota of taking the money and sending it to Al
Shabad in the terrorist group in Mogad. Issue is that
you think that's right?
Speaker 2: Go right?
Speaker 3: And there there ever been a number of people who
worked at TSA, who were employees of MSP Minneaples Saint
Paul Airport, who said they saw bags or suitcases of
the one hundred dollars bills. I mean, yes, that's why
I mentioned it. But the quick pro quote here was
they didn't want to be transparent about this for obvious reasons.
But there's a reason here we are seven eight years later,
nine years later and nothing was done. What do you
suppose that reason is? It is the unmentioned I think
the legal scholars call it an implicit implicit agreement as
opposed to explicit. We won't do much about this, We'll
drive our feet and you just keep voting for us,
which again takes me back to the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I so I was honored. I had I had.
The Republican Party in California asked me to run for Congress,
and a friend of mine called me up and he said,
he said, Tom, He says, I know you can do
the job. The only problem is the murder rate in
Washington would go up. And I thought it was funny.
But I mean, I don't know how you did it.
I mean, were you pulling your hair out? What was
it like being.
Speaker 3: And well, I think one of the biggest problems is
the swap continually conflats being busy with getting something done.
So you live in fifteen minute increments on the hill
and they give you these nice little scheduled cards at
the end of each day and literally they're divided in
fifteen minutes. You're meeting with this person, you're going to committee,
you're going to a vote series, and you're raising money.
Then you're back talking to constituents in your office. And
it all benefits the swamp because you become so busy.
Most people, if they're not well versed in the issues
before they get.
Speaker 15: There, never have time to drill down and know what's
really important.
Speaker 1: So as frankly, I think it's by design well and
and the result being that you raised the red flag
and nothing happened, and it's died until now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, until now, until now. And if it weren't for
the Internet finally living up to its promise, it may
not may not have ever serviced.
Speaker 1: I wonder how it's it's I wonder how.
Speaker 3: You where the tentacles are going to go?
Speaker 1: Well, well, do you think is going to be pressured
to step down?
Speaker 3: Here's where. Here's where Minnesota or New York or Keel
County or Illinois problem lies. And that is the people
who should be to watch dogs. The opposition is nothing
of the sort. They are enablers. They call it Minnesota nice.
So you don't want to name names. You don't want
to be too. The reason CNN went after me over
and over and over again when I was in Congress
is because I was a threaten. I was naming names
and they couldn't allow that.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So in Minnesota, you've got a lot of these business groups.
You've got Republicans who turned over to Harris Walls and
now support them because they just can't support Donald Trump.
The opposition is a fake one and they are enablers
that allow and frankly, there's an argument to be made
that they feel they've got a coming. You've got sort
of this lily white, self loathing Lutheran community that wants
to smell the burning tires during the riots, like Gwn
Walls said she did, because you know what, Lord at fault.
It's systemic, it's our fault. This again hurt us more? Yeah,
and then tell me get a real opposition. Here's what
I think might happen, and that is Walls. The walls
aren't closing in on Walls, which is a wonderful iteration,
isn't it. But they are closing in. But then they'll
they'll get somebody like an Amy Klobashar or another popular
dfl or Democrat farm labor party to run in Minnesota,
and the media will circle the wagons, the business partnerships
will circle the wagons, and the same won't change.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I I imagine it was a wonderful education.
You got that out of it. But it sounds it
sounds like it sounds like that if you had stuck
around that. Yeah, the murder rate would have gone up,
you would you would have had it.
Speaker 3: Well, look, it's one of the reasons I ran for
the Senate. I didn't want to run every two years
in a swing district, that's true, But I thought I
could do more in the Senate too, senator where a
lot of good bills go to die. So I thought
we could help with that a little bit. But be
that as it name, it was very gratifying to actually
pass legislation. We passed the tax cutting jobs at we
started the deregulation movement. We did. We were formed to
be a We did a number of things, and we
pushed on the border hard. We actually shut the government
down over lack of border funding in twenty eighteen, and
I was proud to stand by that, not run away
from it. So it was an interesting one hundred and
fifteenth Congress. But there are so many, as I say,
systemic problems the way things are done that the people
of the power are the committee staffs. The people of
the power are the lobbyists, labor and corporate And it's
a real problem out.
Speaker 1: There, sounds like it. So how can people keep in
touch with you? What are you doing that people can
touch base with?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Thanks Tom. If people want to find out
the real Minnesota and what's really behind the scandal and
all everything else, then go to my newsletter at Jason
Lewis dot substack dot com. It's Jason Lewis dot substack
dot com. Or pick up a book where I've got
it all in there and my experience in Washington called
Party Animal The Truth about President Trump, power, politics and
the partisan press.
Speaker 1: Sounds interesting. I will read it. I will go get that.
That'd be great, all right, Jason, finally, nice to meet you.
This way, maybe I can figure out a way to
go to Florida and get some sunshine and stop buying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll see it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can buy lunch or okay, I'll buy lunch.
Speaker 3: Well. The great the great thing about people like you
and me, Tom, is we can say it's finally good
to meet you and at the same time say it's
great to hear your voice again.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, because I I did. I was.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was introduced to you via your work with the
Russell Inbar Show, and I thought you yeah, so and
me with you, my friend. All right, Jason, thank you
very much. Have a wonderful twenty twenty twenty six and
hopefully we can touch base again.
Speaker 3: You bet Tom and send me a copy and I'll
get it out there on social too.
Speaker 1: Perfect. Thank you, Achuli.
Speaker 3: Happy to do it. Bye bye, okay bye byeye.
Speaker 1: So an interesting guy who was a very talented Takshaw
host now doing writing instead. One more item before we
I know we're going long today, but I got word
this morning that Doug LaMalfa, who was a congressman in
the California First Congressional District, which represented a big piece
of northern California, and a lot of you think California
is nothing but a bunch of blue blue blue Democrats.
Not in northern California, not in the section that LaMalfa
was representing, very pro Trump, very Republican, and this is
an area that with the new redistricting maps, Doug LaMalfa,
after being a congressman therefore, I don't know, twelve fourteen
years something like that, was going to have to run
against a Bay Area people, which is very Democrat. They've rechanged.
They basically he was a target they wanted to get
rid of, and sadly he passed away this morning. The
only word I have is that it was emergency surgery
and he passed away at the hospital, so it was
brought up today. The President was over at a GOP
start off the year meeting with all the Republicans from Congress,
and he started the meeting off with this comment about
Doug Lomalfa.
Speaker 16: And that's why I want to just say that before
we go any further, I want to express our tremendous
sorrow at the loss of a great member, great, great,
great member, Congressman Doug LaMalfa, who passed away yesterday, as
you probably have heard, and he was the leader of
the Western Caucus, a fierce champion on California water issues.
Speaker 3: He was great on water.
Speaker 16: He wanted to release the water hit screamed out, A
true defender of American children, he was a defender of everybody.
And our hearts go out to his wife, Jill and
his entire family. You know, he voted with me one
hundred percent of the time. And with Doug, I never
had a call. He was with us right from the beginning.
I love those guys, I must say, I probably love
them the best. You know, the guys that I don't
have to call. They know we're doing the right thing.
And you know, I spoke to Doug, but I didn't
speak about I mean, I've had a problem and I
was really I was really saddened by his passing and
was thinking about not even doing the speech in his honor.
But then I decided that I have to do it
in his honor. I'll do it in his honor because
he would have wanted it that way, would have wanted
it that way. He would have do that speech. Are
you are you kidding me? Do the speege big guy.
But he was a fantastic person. Man that that was.
Speaker 3: A quick one. I don't know.
Speaker 16: I don't know quite yet what happened, but boy, it's
a tarp one.
Speaker 3: He was just with us. He was our friend, all
of us, every one of us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was very popular, very well liked. And the
problem with this redistrict he map is that who the governor.
Governor Newsom has fourteen days to basically call for an election,
and then after that has to be held I don't
know before the couple of months something like that. But
the point is there's going to be another Congressman, probably
Republican because it's a very red part of California, that
will be elected. But then we'll have to go up
against Democrats in the San Francisco Bay Area and the
two don't have anything in common. Way up in northern California,
it's not anything like the Bay Area. So it's it's
it's sad. It's a sad story. Well liked man will
be greatly missed. Sixty five years of age and a
rice farmer that the great big guy was, that he
knew water and agriculture issues backward and forward. So rest
in peace, Douglamalfa, and our prayers for his family. So
with that, let's take a look at how Wallstreet did today,
because is pretty exciting. Records all over the place. The
Dow Jones Industrials up four hundred eighty four to forty
nine thousand and four to sixty two. That's a new
record high. SMP up forty two to sixty nine forty four,
that's a new record high. The Nasdaq up one hundred
and fifty one to twenty three thousand and five forty seven.
I believe that's a new record high. Gold up fifty
four dollars. That is a new record high four thousand,
five hundred and five dollars for an ounce of gold.
The only minus sign I see on the majors oil
down a buck today, down to fifty six dollars now
for one barrel of oil. So that's it for today.
Thank you for coming by. We will be back again tomorrow.
Hope to see you then