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Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, everyone, welcome back to the n Y Hatriot Show.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 3: We got a topic for you that me and my amazing,
Speaker 3: wonderful co host Teresa from The Spiritual Gangster Show, we'll
Speaker 3: be covering together and that you know, as you can
Speaker 3: see me doing that a little bit more often lately,
Speaker 3: and it is something that I hope to keep.
Speaker 2: Doing going forward.
Speaker 3: I would like to just throw out a disclaimer too,
Speaker 3: even before I introduce Teresa, in case you have no
Speaker 3: idea who she is, I do want to at least
Speaker 3: put out the disclaimer that, honestly, even considering some of
Speaker 3: the stuff I have covered, even with last serial Killer
Speaker 3: that I had covered, I do want to make it
Speaker 3: the disco that this may be actually some of the
Speaker 3: worst stuff that I have covered and that she's probably
Speaker 3: ever covered ourselves. So I do want to make that
Speaker 3: disclaimer if you do not want to hear some you know,
Speaker 3: rather gruesome and terrifying stuff. In a sense, this episode
Speaker 3: may not be for you, but you know, we will
Speaker 3: come across some pretty gross, horrible things that you know
Speaker 3: has happened in humanity. So with that disclaimer, said, you
Speaker 3: can shut it off now or you.
Speaker 2: Can continue listening. And with that said, going.
Speaker 3: Forward now, I guess I'll introduce Teresa in case people
Speaker 3: don't know who she is. What is up, Teresa, thank
Speaker 3: you very much for even covering this topic with me
Speaker 3: and let everybody know who you are and what you're
Speaker 3: about and where they can find your stuff as well.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, I'm excited to be back on covering
Speaker 1: another crazy topic with you. Yeah, researching is like one
Speaker 1: of probably our favorite things to do, so like, no
Speaker 1: matter the subject matter, it's interesting to us. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good you made that disclaimer I think in the
Speaker 1: beginning because some of the subject matter moving forward is
Speaker 1: disturbing to say the least, and like I don't disturb easily,
Speaker 1: but in some of the research I was like very
Speaker 1: appalled at what I read. So there's that. Having said that,
Speaker 1: I'm Teresa, and yeah, I also have another great show
Speaker 1: with you called The Spiritual Gangsters, which is very different
Speaker 1: than this. It's more about like personal stories, things we
Speaker 1: find of interest of a spiritual nature. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a good time and encourage people to check it out
Speaker 1: if they have not. On of course, all the major
Speaker 1: podcast platforms YouTube and Rumble.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, definitely check those out and definitely hit up
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Speaker 3: Because there will be things that we may cover, a
Speaker 3: guess that we may have on that is not YouTube friendly.
Speaker 3: And the Rumble also does you know, have lives now
Speaker 3: for people who don't pay, so we can go live
Speaker 3: more often. So I would definitely suggest hitting that follow
Speaker 3: on Rumble if you have that, use that app.
Speaker 2: And I guess, you know, getting into it one of
Speaker 2: the other reasons.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm making this disclaimer about horrible you know
Speaker 3: this is, and people might be like, well, why are
Speaker 3: you covering it? Part of it actually really is our
Speaker 3: huge part of it is is that you know, during
Speaker 3: this time that we're going to be covering, we were
Speaker 3: you know, very much pointed in one direction to look
Speaker 3: at the horrors that were being done in Germany, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But you know, none of.
Speaker 3: These horrors that we're really seeing going on over there
Speaker 3: were too publicized, and I guess one of the reasons why.
Speaker 3: And then we'll get into it as well near closer
Speaker 3: to the end. Just like with Germany, we brought Nazis
Speaker 3: over here and gave them a free pass because of
Speaker 3: the research they were doing. Same thing happened with these scientists.
Speaker 3: We gave them a pass for the research to give
Speaker 3: us the research that they were doing, and Russia gave
Speaker 3: them a pass as well. So that's kind of some
Speaker 3: of the reasons why I want to cover this, because like,
Speaker 3: this is stuff that our country has basically co signed
Speaker 3: and other countries have co sign and it's pretty horrific
Speaker 3: horrible shit in my opinion, that almost make the Nazis look,
Speaker 3: you know, just as the same or not as bad.
Speaker 2: Actually, you know, it's it's a fine line, but they're
Speaker 2: to me both horrific horrible shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just find it interesting that, like the Nazis
Speaker 1: just get this like bad rap for everything that happened
Speaker 1: in World War Two, and it's that's true, they did
Speaker 1: do a lot of horrifying things. But there's also you know,
Speaker 1: this whole Japanese issue, and there's it's not exclusive to
Speaker 1: one group of people, you know, the horrors throughout history.
Speaker 1: So something to keep in mind moving forward, so history
Speaker 1: does not.
Speaker 3: Repeat, yes, exactly, And it's I guess kind of just
Speaker 3: to like show you what governments are willing to do
Speaker 3: for information, right, So I guess I'll get us into
Speaker 3: it just a little bit of I guess, basic informational
Speaker 3: background on Unit seven thirty one, and then we'll get
Speaker 3: into more detailed stuff. Unit seven thirty one is short
Speaker 3: for Manshoe Detachment seven thirty one and also known as
Speaker 3: Camo Detachment and the Ishi unit has a bunch of
Speaker 3: different names. And it was a covert biological and chemical
Speaker 3: warfare and warfare research and development unit of the Imperial
Speaker 3: Japanese Army that engaged in lethal human experimentation in biological
Speaker 3: weapons manufacturing during the Second Sino or however you saying
Speaker 3: that Japanese war from nineteen thirty seven to nineteen forty five.
Speaker 2: In World War Two, the unit.
Speaker 3: Is estimated to have killed between two hundred and three
Speaker 3: hundred thous people. It was based in the ping Fang
Speaker 3: district of Harbin. I'm sure I'm butchering these names, but
Speaker 3: bear with me, the largest city in the Japanese puppet
Speaker 3: state of Manchu Ku whatever. Unit seven point thirty one
Speaker 3: was responsible for some of the most notorious war crimes
Speaker 3: committed by the Japanese armed Forces. It routinely conducted tests
Speaker 3: on people who were dehumanized and internally referred to as logs.
Speaker 3: They didn't even call people humans, they called them logs.
Speaker 3: Experiments included disease injections, controlled dehydration, biological weapons testing, vivisection, amputation,
Speaker 3: and standard weapons testings. Victims included not only kidnapped men
Speaker 3: and women and pregnant women and children, but also babies
Speaker 3: born from this systemic rape perpetrated by this staff inside
Speaker 3: the compound. So you had people there raping, impregnating, and
Speaker 3: then studying the children. That's fucking insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The victims came from different nationalities, with the majority being
Speaker 3: Chinese and a significant minority being Russian. Additionally, seven point
Speaker 3: thirty one produced biological weapons that were used in areas
Speaker 3: of China not occupied by Japanese forces, which included Chinese
Speaker 3: cities and towns, Chinese cities, towns, water sources, and fields.
Speaker 3: It was officially known as the epid I love this
Speaker 3: name that they gave it, because, like, if somebody was
Speaker 3: to build this building a mile away from me and
Speaker 3: I drove past it, I would probably not think much.
Speaker 2: Of it at all.
Speaker 3: But it was officially known as the Epidemic Prevention and
Speaker 3: Water Purification Department.
Speaker 2: Water purification.
Speaker 3: Originally set up by the Military Police of the of Japan.
Speaker 3: Unit seven thirty one was taken over and commanded until
Speaker 3: the end of the war by General Shiroishi, a combat
Speaker 3: medic officer in the Kwantung Army. The facility itself was
Speaker 3: built in nineteen thirty five as a replacement for the
Speaker 3: Zangma Fortress, and Ishi and his team used.
Speaker 2: It to expand their capabilities.
Speaker 3: The program received generous support from the Japanese government until
Speaker 3: the end of the war.
Speaker 2: In nineteen forty five.
Speaker 3: Unit seven thirty one and other units of the Epidemic
Speaker 3: Prevention and Water Purification Department operated biological weapons production, testing,
Speaker 3: deployment in storage. Researchers arrested by Soviet forces were tried
Speaker 3: at the December nineteen forty nine I don't even know
Speaker 3: how to pronounce this Kabarovsk War crime trials, and they
Speaker 3: were captured by the United States and were also secretly
Speaker 3: given immunity in exchange for the data gathered during their
Speaker 3: human experiments. The United States covered up the human expect
Speaker 3: the human expert The United States covered up the human
Speaker 3: experimentations and handed stipends to the perpetrators. The Americans co
Speaker 3: opted the researchers bioweapons information and experience for use in
Speaker 3: their own biological warfare program, much like what had been
Speaker 3: done with Nazi Germany in the Operation paper Clip.
Speaker 2: Same thing.
Speaker 3: We gave them carte blanche for their research, and we
Speaker 3: gave the same thing to these sick fuckers. So very
Speaker 3: I don't know, real quick, I will go over the
Speaker 3: Zongmo Fortress.
Speaker 2: Unit Togo was sent into motion.
Speaker 3: In the Zongmo Fortress, a prison and an experimentation camp.
Speaker 2: In behind.
Speaker 3: Could be some sure saying that wrong. A village that's
Speaker 3: about one hundred kilometers south of Harbin on the South
Speaker 3: Vanchuria Railway. The prisoners are brought to Zangma included common criminals,
Speaker 3: captured bandits, anti Japanese partisans, as well as political prisoners
Speaker 3: and people rounded up on the trumped up charges by Tempeteia.
Speaker 2: Not even sure who that is prisoners were. This is crazy.
Speaker 3: Prisoners were generally generally well fed on a diet of
Speaker 3: rice or wheat, meat, in fish, and occasionally even alcohol
Speaker 3: in order to be in normal health at the beginning
Speaker 3: of the experiments. So you could have actually have been
Speaker 3: brought into this thing think like, oh, this isn't that bad.
Speaker 3: I'm actually you know, they're feeding me, well then fuck,
Speaker 3: they even gave me a drink. This can't be that bad.
Speaker 3: And before you know it, you know they're fucking if
Speaker 3: we're trying to freeze your cutt into your fucking body
Speaker 3: parts off. Yeah, fucking sick. Talk about like a mind
Speaker 3: fuck with that. Yeah, uh, normal health the beginning of
Speaker 3: the experience. Then, over several days, prisoners were eventually drained
Speaker 3: of blood and deprived of nutrients and water. Their deteriorating
Speaker 3: health was recorded. Some were also vv sected. Others were
Speaker 3: deliberately infected with plague, bacteria, and microbes. A prison break
Speaker 3: in the autumn of nineteen thirty four, which jeopardized the
Speaker 3: facility secrecy, and an explosion in nineteen thirty five led
Speaker 3: to Ishi to shut down the Zogma fortress. So, you know,
Speaker 3: they're supposedly because of a prison break and this other thing,
Speaker 3: it was shut down.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, So.
Speaker 3: That's just like a little bit, you know, a little
Speaker 3: bit of background information before we really start getting into
Speaker 3: what they were doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you want to go into what
Speaker 3: you have now, Teresa, Sure.
Speaker 1: So I just kind of wanted to set the stage
Speaker 1: a little bit because I think people probably have a
Speaker 1: good idea of like general Nazi ideology and the racism involved,
Speaker 1: you know, against the Jewish people obviously perpetrated by Hitler
Speaker 1: and his forces. And we're used to, like well us
Speaker 1: here in North America, you and I are both in
Speaker 1: North America, but we're used to a very westernized idea
Speaker 1: of racism. So based on skin color usually or like
Speaker 1: physical features, you know, where like one group is like
Speaker 1: dehumanized or like put to be like more animal like
Speaker 1: or something, whereas like the other group is put on
Speaker 1: a pedestal.
Speaker 2: Right, so oh that's even like you you know what
Speaker 2: we did here. It's like if a black guy smoked
Speaker 2: a joint, he was going to kill and.
Speaker 1: Murder, right, exactly right, but the white right, but the
Speaker 1: way deep smoking is fine and not to anyone, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to.
Speaker 3: Know real quick, sorry, real quick, just another thing to do,
Speaker 3: you know that one of the reasons why they I mean,
Speaker 3: there was multiple reasons, but one of the reasons why
Speaker 3: they did illegalize cocaine, it's because they did say if
Speaker 3: black guy.
Speaker 2: Sniff did, it was going to be like devast like
Speaker 2: they would kill or rape. Really, yeah, it had to
Speaker 2: do with race. Believe it or not.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I didn't have no idea. I just
Speaker 1: thought it.
Speaker 2: Everybody, they better fucking run for cover.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's messed up. Eh. Holy oh. And I
Speaker 1: did want to add something when you were talking about
Speaker 1: how Nazis were given immunity and during Operation paper Clip
Speaker 1: and brought over to America. If that's new information for
Speaker 1: anybody listening and they don't believe you, like that's factual.
Speaker 1: And there's even a Netflix documentary about it, if anyone
Speaker 1: was interested. There's a documentary called Camp Confidential, America's Secret Nazis,
Speaker 1: which I've watched and it's very informative actually, and I'm
Speaker 1: surprised that it was on Netflix. But again, I think
Speaker 1: that's like perpetrating this myth that like only the Nazis
Speaker 1: were bad and the Nazis were the bad guys. And
Speaker 1: I think that's sort of goes along with like the
Speaker 1: mentality like going on in America right now. It's like
Speaker 1: demonizing this ultranationalist sort of mentality and like that that's bad, right.
Speaker 1: Make it make it clear in people's mind, the general
Speaker 1: population's mind, that that's a bad thing to be. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying it's a good thing to be, but that's
Speaker 1: definitely the narrative being pushed, right. So that being said,
Speaker 1: racism in Japan is a little bit different than racism
Speaker 1: here in North America. So obviously, racial tension was a
Speaker 1: driving factor in Nazi Germany, and like doctor Mengele, who
Speaker 1: was known as the Angel of Death in the Nazi camp,
Speaker 1: he conducted those crazy medical experiments on Jews and concentration
Speaker 1: camp prisoners, which were not all just Jewish by the way,
Speaker 1: there's other people in there too, But race was the
Speaker 1: driving factor. And this was done under the guise of
Speaker 1: medical stuff because the Nazis believed who would question a
Speaker 1: trained doctor, right? And don't didn't we see that like
Speaker 1: in the last few years too, like don't question the science. Oh,
Speaker 1: the doctors know best. You're you reading a article, you
Speaker 1: don't know anything, but only the doctors know, right. So
Speaker 1: again this is going back to like putting educated, indoctrinated
Speaker 1: people on a pedestal.
Speaker 2: You know what, you know, what's funny that you just
Speaker 2: said that? And no shit.
Speaker 3: I had a listener send me a link today to
Speaker 3: a video that I did start to watch just a
Speaker 3: few minutes, and I was like, I may have to
Speaker 3: actually watch this whole thing.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: It was actually like on what you're saying right now,
Speaker 3: It's like it was like somebody covering how like all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, like you know, you know the United States,
Speaker 3: but other countries, like, all of a sudden, we have
Speaker 3: to have these trained professionals to tell you what to
Speaker 3: do now, right.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it wasn't like that at one point.
Speaker 1: No, it really wasn't. And this is like a very
Speaker 1: more modern thing like in the last I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe one hundred years, two hundred years, right, where like
Speaker 1: these white collar professionals are like put on a pedestal.
Speaker 1: So like arguments backed by science made the Nazi ideology
Speaker 1: extremely effective, right, And they understood that people put faith
Speaker 1: in science just like we do now. I would say,
Speaker 1: like science is probably most people's religion these days.
Speaker 2: Trust the science.
Speaker 1: Right. It was even those little like gifts or gifts,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you say it on Instagram of
Speaker 1: like you know, pray for Saint Fauci and like all
Speaker 1: this stuff, like you know, making this religion out of scientism,
Speaker 1: I guess you would call it. So racism is not
Speaker 1: exclusive to Nazis. Obviously, but this ultra nationalist view that
Speaker 1: the Nazis shared, the Japanese also shared. So I find
Speaker 1: it interesting that like these fascist countries shared this like
Speaker 1: ulternationalist pride, like Italy was the same with Mussolini. Japan
Speaker 1: had an emperor at the time. I don't know if
Speaker 1: a lot of people know that, even like the emperor
Speaker 1: was the highest authority in the country, Hitler was like
Speaker 1: the chancellor whatever. So Japanese people believe at the time,
Speaker 1: the ideology being presented was that the Japanese people are
Speaker 1: the superior race among Asians, yes, and that they need
Speaker 1: to cleanse like the racial scape scope of Asia and
Speaker 1: like be the dominant leading race because they believe that
Speaker 1: they're called the they call themselves the Yamato race, which
Speaker 1: has like a mythical origin and the kind of like
Speaker 1: didn't the Nazis have something like that too, y I
Speaker 1: mean with this like mythical like creation or like origin story.
Speaker 3: I mean, if we're looking at you, I would believe so. Yes,
Speaker 3: some people may not agree with that, but I definitely.
Speaker 3: I mean when you look at the ship that they
Speaker 3: did out in the streets, to me, they were obviously
Speaker 3: there's something being some pagan or magical influence behind them.
Speaker 1: Right. So the Japanese people believe not so much like
Speaker 1: based on skin color, right, because you know, obviously all
Speaker 1: Asians share a similar look, shall we say, right, it's
Speaker 1: more based on the purity of your soul.
Speaker 2: Oh, this would mean very much.
Speaker 1: It's very like Germany, right, so like the like that
Speaker 1: the Aryan race would be like the dominant mythical they're
Speaker 1: like the Targarians of their time.
Speaker 3: Well people, if you think about it too, like if
Speaker 3: if they were you know, gassing or killing you know,
Speaker 3: Jewish people. They were white as well for the most part,
Speaker 3: I'm assuming you know, so it's like they were killing
Speaker 3: the same color. It's just the ideology or how you know,
Speaker 3: how cleanse.
Speaker 1: Your soul is, but darker features usually, So they wanted
Speaker 1: to like preserve the blonde haired people because they believed
Speaker 1: that that was like the more favorable genetic traits, right,
Speaker 1: because it belonged to this like Aryan gene pool. Right,
Speaker 1: than there's some the ubermensh the superman right, very yes,
Speaker 1: very yeah. So Japanese racism is more about the purity
Speaker 1: of one's soul, which is really interesting to me. It's
Speaker 1: a spiritual racism, if that makes sense. Yeah, so they
Speaker 1: believe themselves above other Asians, and the majority of their
Speaker 1: victims were other Asians between nineteen thirty one to nineteen
Speaker 1: forty five, mostly Chinese people. Interestingly, also, the Yamato race
Speaker 1: believes they're divine and that the color of one's soul
Speaker 1: and purity is represented by the color red, which I
Speaker 1: found odd. I don't know, because like if you think
Speaker 1: of the Japanese flag, it has the giant red sun
Speaker 1: against the white background. So the white represents purity and
Speaker 1: then the red represents the person's soul. And also one
Speaker 1: way to purge yourself of corruption was to bleed, which
Speaker 1: is weird. I just had a thought right now that
Speaker 1: ties into like Mormonism with the like blood atonement. Remember
Speaker 1: that that was a while back, we covered that stuff.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the bleeding.
Speaker 1: Yes, that bleeding is a way to like purify yourself,
Speaker 1: and that like the Japanese people often have like honor suicides,
Speaker 1: like when they're like to feel like they've disgraced themselves
Speaker 1: with their family, they kill themselves. Yeah, Samurais would do that, right,
Speaker 1: So this is like deeply embedded in their culture and
Speaker 1: like ideology yes, there's this word in Japanese called seki
Speaker 1: say I'm probably saying it wrong, which means sincerity and
Speaker 1: literally translates to red truth. So again the red being prominent, right, No,
Speaker 1: it's not why but I thought that when we were
Speaker 1: talking beforehand, I was like, oh shit, I wore red
Speaker 1: and I'm going to talk about red in a few minutes.
Speaker 2: Isn't coke red and white? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's interesting, that's true, right, dang the black goose back now?
Speaker 1: Oh man. So it's not so much like the overt,
Speaker 1: like blunt racism that I would say perpetrates the West.
Speaker 1: It's more this like subtle spiritual racism. But they truly
Speaker 1: believe that, like they are better than other Asians and
Speaker 1: that it's their job to dominate the Asian culture and land.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: You know what's really interesting with that When you want
Speaker 3: to start getting into I guess, like mind crimes on thoughts,
Speaker 3: it's like you don't even have to like you don't
Speaker 3: have to say like, oh, if this person looks like this,
Speaker 3: it just has to be like, oh, that person's thinking
Speaker 3: something in their head.
Speaker 2: It could be anybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, and how do
Speaker 3: you even prove, like you know, unless they've been out
Speaker 3: in the open or you know, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: this proof like physical proof, Like how do you say,
Speaker 3: like this is what this person's thinking. Yeah, I just
Speaker 3: I just find it an easy way just to start
Speaker 3: pointing the finger at.
Speaker 1: People totally, Like how easy could you make anyone the
Speaker 1: scapegoat that you want? Right? Yeah, it's wild. Also, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to add real quick that Japanese doctors at
Speaker 1: the time, so you mentioned doctor Ishi, who was like
Speaker 1: the head of Unit seven thirty one, that the doctors
Speaker 1: at the time in Japan were not provided like any
Speaker 1: ethical training whatsoever. So usually in medical school there's probably
Speaker 1: a short section on ethics, but it is required, I
Speaker 1: believe in North America.
Speaker 2: So I think when you become a doctor, I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure you swear to those ethics.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, the Hippocratic oath, yes, so there is no hypocritical.
Speaker 2: Follow it anyway follow it. But I mean they do.
Speaker 1: Some sort of oath, but at the time, they didn't
Speaker 1: do this. I don't know if they do it nowadays,
Speaker 1: but it was under the assumption that if you want
Speaker 1: to become a doctor, you're doing it for like helping humanity.
Speaker 1: But in their eyes, helping humanity was cleansing the Asian
Speaker 1: race and infiltrating it with the Yamato race, which was them.
Speaker 1: So they thought that that's for the good of everybody,
Speaker 1: just like the Germans thought they were doing good by
Speaker 1: preserving the area in gene Pool and exterminating everybody else.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just wanted to make a little introduction
Speaker 1: on the Japanese mentality. I didn't know that until I
Speaker 1: write about it either. And I even took totalitarianism and
Speaker 1: World War two stuff in university, and I've never heard
Speaker 1: of any of this.
Speaker 3: Interesting, That's what I mean, like seriously, like just what
Speaker 3: you just said right now, It's like we really had
Speaker 3: Japan and Germany doing like the same fucking thing in
Speaker 3: different ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I do wonder the spiritual origins of that,
Speaker 1: just like talking out loud, these are my own thoughts,
Speaker 1: like does that come from the same place, like whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they were like tapping into something
Speaker 1: on purpose. I think the Nazis were. I don't know
Speaker 1: about the Japanese probably, but spiritually, what were they doing
Speaker 1: that gave them these presumptions and ideas? That's what I wonder.
Speaker 3: Good question is they're like the same mindset behind their actions?
Speaker 2: M spirit yes, oh yeah too. So you're done.
Speaker 1: I am done.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to read off a couple of different
Speaker 3: just three of them real quick. It's just a couple
Speaker 3: of chemicals that might be if I don't mention it. It
Speaker 3: is chemicals that were used. I'm pretty sure there are
Speaker 3: things that I will be mentioning going forward later on.
Speaker 3: I just want to cover a couple of them that
Speaker 3: people may not have heard of, so you understand who
Speaker 3: makes it and what it does. Yeah, So I'm going
Speaker 3: to go on to Lewis Site. Lewis site is an
Speaker 3: organic Lewis site is a compound. It was once manufactured
Speaker 3: in the US, Japan, Germany, and Soviet Union, which is
Speaker 3: very interesting for the use as a chemical weapon, acting
Speaker 3: as a vesicant or a blister age and lung irritant.
Speaker 3: Although the substance is colorless and odorless in its pure form,
Speaker 3: impure samples of Lewis site a yellow, brown, violet, black green,
Speaker 3: or amber looking. Apart from its from its use as
Speaker 3: a weapon of war, Lewis site is useless. Say that again,
Speaker 3: apart from its use as a weapon of war. Lewis
Speaker 3: site is useless. But yet we just said that the US, Japan, Germany,
Speaker 3: and Soviet Union make it.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, why useless substance?
Speaker 3: A chemist from the United States Army Chemical Warfare Laboratory
Speaker 3: said that no one has ever found any use for
Speaker 3: the compound, so applications u site is useless. Apart from
Speaker 3: deliberately injuring and killing people, it has no commercial, industrial,
Speaker 3: or scientific scientific application haitians and again it's to cause
Speaker 3: blisters and long irantant Adam's site or I found this interesting?
Speaker 3: Or DM like don't we have robotussin? D oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, head of the commercials like brought to you by
Speaker 1: doctor Mom. How does does DM stand for doctor mom?
Speaker 1: That's I thought when I was little.
Speaker 3: Adam's site or a DM is an organic compound technically
Speaker 3: arsenical this word whatever that can be used as a
Speaker 3: riot control agent. DM belongs to the group of chemical
Speaker 3: war affair agents known as vomiting agents.
Speaker 2: Or sneezing gases.
Speaker 3: First synthesized in Germany in nineteen fifteen, it was independently
Speaker 3: developed by the US chemist Roger Adams at the University
Speaker 3: of Illinois in nineteen eighteen, so now they are using
Speaker 3: weapons that were actually I mean, that's almost like confusing.
Speaker 3: So it was developed by somebody in nineteen eighteen, but
Speaker 3: then synthesized and used in Germany, and you know whatever,
Speaker 3: But we have the US making it, Germany synthesizing it,
Speaker 3: and then Japan using it. It's very weird in my opinion.
Speaker 3: So that was also another reason why I wanted to
Speaker 3: kind of cover those those two out of the three.
Speaker 2: So that was just real quick.
Speaker 3: I did kind of want to lightly touch on those
Speaker 3: because I do think I bring them up as of
Speaker 3: other chemicals that I think when I do mention and
Speaker 3: people will have no problem knowing what they are. So
Speaker 3: that was just real quick. And then if you want
Speaker 3: to go into some of the stuff, you have.
Speaker 2: To reason sure.
Speaker 1: So you want to get into the experiments that were
Speaker 1: going on at Unit seven one, yes, okay. So one
Speaker 1: of the things that Designed decided would be great to
Speaker 1: study was the effects of frostbite on people. Right, So
Speaker 1: one of the more horrifying series of experiments revolved around
Speaker 1: extreme temperatures. While extreme heat was used to test on
Speaker 1: test subjects, extreme cold was used more often because it
Speaker 1: was too more suitable to the climate in Japan. After
Speaker 1: the test subjects were taken outside in the cold, water
Speaker 1: was intermittently poured on their arms until frostbite set into
Speaker 1: the affected areas. Other times, limbs were frozen and subsequently
Speaker 1: thowed to study gangering fun. One might wonder how the
Speaker 1: researchers could tell that the arms were frostbitten. So, according
Speaker 1: to one officer's testimony, frostbite had occurred if the frozen arms,
Speaker 1: when struck with a short stick, emitted a sound resembling
Speaker 1: that which gives a board when struck. So they hit
Speaker 1: the person at different points in the freezing process, and
Speaker 1: then when it gives that like blunt sound, like you're
Speaker 1: hitting like a wooden board.
Speaker 2: Like a log.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a log. How they refer to their test
Speaker 1: subjects as logs because they dehumanize the shit out of them.
Speaker 1: That's when they could tell it was frozen enough.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: However, these experiments did yield some scientific findings. The unit
Speaker 1: determined that rubbing a frost bitten area was not the
Speaker 1: most effective treatment. Instead, it was better to treat frostbite
Speaker 1: by immersing the affected area in water warmer than thirty
Speaker 1: seven point eight celsius, which is around one hundred fahrenheit
Speaker 1: but cooler than fifty celsius or one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: two fahrenheit. Actually, a scene depicting this experiment ritual is
Speaker 1: featured in the nineteen eighty eight film Men behind the Sun,
Speaker 1: with some artistic license taken apparently. Yes, so that's the
Speaker 1: first one I had, uh, the second type of experiment
Speaker 1: going on?
Speaker 3: Oh you thought I wanted to add real quick to
Speaker 3: that whole thing with the freezing. Yeah, I mean this
Speaker 3: is actually like really disturbing, but I just didn't want
Speaker 3: to make a point of it. They knew also that
Speaker 3: you could stick a child outside in the cold without
Speaker 3: any care and it will live for three days before
Speaker 3: it dies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh, that's interesting. Could you imagine conducting that
Speaker 1: experiment just as like a human in general? Like who
Speaker 1: who's in charge of the tournament? You literally just like
Speaker 1: pick up a baby, walk them into the middle of
Speaker 1: the cold woods, put them down, and then just like
Speaker 1: hang out and see what happens.
Speaker 3: I also wonder if those are like two children that
Speaker 3: were the result of raping the prisoners and stuff.
Speaker 1: I would assume probably or Chinese children because they view
Speaker 1: the Chinese as spiritually impure and discardible or Russian babies.
Speaker 1: A lot of the victims in Unit seven thirty one
Speaker 1: were Russian, which I find interesting. Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 3: You know what I find really weird about that is
Speaker 3: that Russia was cool with them torturing and experimenting on
Speaker 3: their citizens as long as they gave them the research
Speaker 3: information after the fact could have been maybe you're like,
Speaker 3: here you go, here's some test subjects.
Speaker 1: I wonder if they were cool with it at the
Speaker 1: time or not, Like they might have not been cool
Speaker 1: with it at the time, but later on didn't really
Speaker 1: care to press consequences, you know what I.
Speaker 3: Mean, Yeah, or yeah, or even if they weren't cool
Speaker 3: with it at one point, I guess they were okay
Speaker 3: with it after the fact because of the information they
Speaker 3: got out of it. It's just like, really kind of
Speaker 3: screwed up and weird.
Speaker 1: Well, you have to think also to the Russian people
Speaker 1: had already suffered the Holidamore. I don't know if a
Speaker 1: lot of people have heard of that, and that was
Speaker 1: like extreme narvation, like literally I think it was under Stalin.
Speaker 1: That might be historically inaccurate. Pretty sure it was under Stalin,
Speaker 1: and like millions of people died, so people think that
Speaker 1: like Hitler was the worst I'm telling you on a
Speaker 1: scale of like totalitarian dictators, not even close. Stalin worse,
Speaker 1: Mao sey Tongue in China, way fucking worse.
Speaker 2: Who however, you say his name?
Speaker 1: Oh who's that?
Speaker 3: He's like another fucking socialistic communists? Oh shit, Yeah, And
Speaker 3: I've actually literally seen like, uh, I think that I
Speaker 3: forgot the politician's name that was like trying to run
Speaker 3: for something in California literally had a dressed with his
Speaker 3: fucking face on it.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, woof. That's a statement right there. But again,
Speaker 1: going back, I just find it interesting current culture demonizes
Speaker 1: Nazis right, which rightfully so, but also never mentions communist
Speaker 1: dictators like Stalin or mouse Tongue. Ever, if you ask,
Speaker 1: like a typical high school person or like someone in college,
Speaker 1: like who's the worst dictator ever? Hitler? Hitler? Hitler, That's
Speaker 1: what they'd say, or like they always compare it like
Speaker 1: to Hitler. It's like this word, like when people use
Speaker 1: the name like Jesus as a swear word, It's like
Speaker 1: Hitler's just like this word like synonymous with bad shit. Right,
Speaker 1: don't be a Nazi actually don't be a communist. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: but they don't perpetuate that in our common mentality, which
Speaker 1: I find interesting. It's like a secret right. Anyways, back
Speaker 1: to Unit seven thirty one, another major thing going on
Speaker 1: at the facility was sexual assault and rape. So unfortunate
Speaker 1: and very tragically this was rampant in Unit seven thirty one.
Speaker 1: There was mass rapes and sexual slavery and sex crimes
Speaker 1: committed by Japanese soldiers throughout the facility. Many of these
Speaker 1: unlawful acts were committed just for pleasurable purposes, but sometimes
Speaker 1: were justified by the researchers as experiments about sexually transmitted
Speaker 1: diseases and also to use the children born from these
Speaker 1: acts in experiments, just to show like the very casual
Speaker 1: nature of these crimes and the mentality of the soldiers
Speaker 1: and guards. One guard's account of a researcher was that
Speaker 1: the guard told sorry. The researcher told the guard that
Speaker 1: he had the human experiment scheduled, but he had time
Speaker 1: to kill before the experiment, So he took the guard's
Speaker 1: to a cell and just decided to rape this Chinese
Speaker 1: lady just for fun. Well, he was waiting to do
Speaker 1: his experiment like this is like a really fuck dumb menalody.
Speaker 1: And this also kind of relates to another incident. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you're probably gonna bring it up later, but the
Speaker 1: it's called the rape of Nanjing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually what I'm going into this.
Speaker 1: Oh well, do you want me to talk about it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Go for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. So just this like mass rape mentality,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what is up with the with
Speaker 1: the Japanese, but the Nanjing massacre occurred sorry, in the
Speaker 1: Battle of nan King in that Sino Japanese War under
Speaker 1: the Imperial Japanese Army. So it was December thirteenth, nineteen
Speaker 1: thirty seven. The massacre lasted six weeks, and the perpetrators
Speaker 1: committed other heinous war crimes such as mass rape, looting,
Speaker 1: an arson. The massacre was one of the worst atrocities
Speaker 1: committed during World War Two. Have you ever heard of
Speaker 1: that before researching this?
Speaker 2: Nope, nope.
Speaker 3: I had no idea that any of that stuff. When
Speaker 3: I started reading it, I was like, yo, this is insane,
Speaker 3: Like that's serious, large numbers. Like I'm reading it and
Speaker 3: what I'm picturing in my head is like, uh fuck,
Speaker 3: what was that show? I just said to you before
Speaker 3: Game of Thrones, I'm I'm like, these are like barbarians
Speaker 3: just running into an area, taking it over and then
Speaker 3: just raping the women and doing whatever they want.
Speaker 1: There's like some Viking Barbara.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I was like, this is like some barbaric, animalistic.
Speaker 1: Crap in nineteen thirty seven. Yes, it's a little bit shocking.
Speaker 1: I don't remember thinking to me that you growing up
Speaker 1: in American school, me growing up in Canadian school, has
Speaker 1: never heard of this ever in our life. I find
Speaker 1: that very interesting and very telling. Any who's basically the
Speaker 1: army murdered a lot of people and raped a ton
Speaker 1: of people. There was at least two hundred thousand murders
Speaker 1: and at least twenty thousand cases of rape. That's a lot, right,
Speaker 1: And I was saying to you before we started recording
Speaker 1: that it kind of almost reminded me of the Rwandan
Speaker 1: genocide because of just dislike, yeah, just almost like from
Speaker 1: what I've heard of people who were eyewitnesses to that genocide,
Speaker 1: very tragic, but just the mentality of like this sweeping
Speaker 1: evil and people were almost like bloodthirsty, and this like
Speaker 1: bloodlust that like takes over when people start just like
Speaker 1: mass killing. It's almost like the very primal mentality like
Speaker 1: comes out in people who they were probably friends with
Speaker 1: like a month ago, and now they're like murdering them
Speaker 1: with machetes and raping women, and it's like wild.
Speaker 3: I mean, like I said to you when you were
Speaker 3: even mentioning that to me, because I'll be honest, when
Speaker 3: you mentioned this whole thing, I was like, I've heard
Speaker 3: of it, but I actually don't know anything about it.
Speaker 3: And as you were telling me that, like I even
Speaker 3: said to you, like I minus the rape because I
Speaker 3: don't think like that would have been a huge thing.
Speaker 3: But I do think, like what you were saying two
Speaker 3: or three years ago, I do think if we were pushed,
Speaker 3: well not me and you, but other people were pushed
Speaker 3: a little bit harder and farther and a little sprinkled
Speaker 3: a little bit more fear, our own citizens may have
Speaker 3: started acting that way towards each other, the left and
Speaker 3: the right. I do believe the left and the right
Speaker 3: could actually be pushed to this extent.
Speaker 2: It's very possible.
Speaker 1: That's what we see sometimes, you know, was like mash shootings,
Speaker 1: stuff like this. It's like the precursors too, they're just
Speaker 1: like pushing like the far right and the far left.
Speaker 1: It's antagonizing the two ends and wanting them to just
Speaker 1: like unleash on each other eventually. Right, That's what it
Speaker 1: seems like to me. Yeah, that was the the Nan
Speaker 1: King massacre, which I just thought was telling of the mentality,
Speaker 1: like when it comes to a lack of respect for
Speaker 1: life and women and you know, just the whole mentality,
Speaker 1: it's very messed up. M hm. Would you like me
Speaker 1: to continue or would you like to move to what
Speaker 1: you were saying?
Speaker 2: Okay, no, what are you still covering the Nan King?
Speaker 1: No, I'm just going to move on to the other
Speaker 1: kind of experiments go for all right. So a third
Speaker 1: type of experiment that was common at Union seven thirty
Speaker 1: one was things that went on in special chambers. So
Speaker 1: Unit seven thirty one itself was like six square kilometers,
Speaker 1: which is like two point three miles six, right, I know,
Speaker 1: I thought I saw the six and I was like,
Speaker 1: what the heck?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think like the fence around the prison
Speaker 3: was like three meters.
Speaker 1: Of course, right, oh man. But they did have numerous
Speaker 1: buildings for specific experiments. So many of these buildings were
Speaker 1: used to raise fleas culture of different pathogens, and many
Speaker 1: were specifically built for certain kind of tests. So in
Speaker 1: one special chamber there was a centrifuge built to examine
Speaker 1: how much force it would take to cause death. High
Speaker 1: pressure chambers pushed victims eyes out of their heads. Forced
Speaker 1: abortions and sterilizations were conducted, and subjects were treated to
Speaker 1: lethal doses of X rays. And one this was the
Speaker 1: one that really disturbed me. In an experiment to observe
Speaker 1: the innate bond between mother and child, a Russian mother
Speaker 1: and her child were monitored in a glass chamber while
Speaker 1: poisonous gas was pumped into the chamber. The mother covered
Speaker 1: her child in an attempt to save the baby, but
Speaker 1: both ultimately died. Of course, can you can you just
Speaker 1: imagine like observing that behind a glass wall, Like how
Speaker 1: how messed up do you have to be? You know,
Speaker 1: no one really got me being a mom myself obviously.
Speaker 3: You know it's interesting like even getting into some of
Speaker 3: the stuff that me and thrash are going to cover
Speaker 3: thinking about it now, like this the glass wall. I
Speaker 3: mean there was mk ultra experiments with LSD that he
Speaker 3: stood behind glass walls and watched the reaction. Yes, again,
Speaker 3: like you know after we get that, did we get
Speaker 3: that way of watching I don't know from them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very weird. Well, and also what got me too
Speaker 1: about that was that probably the mother tried like till
Speaker 1: her like last moment, to like, you know, just protect
Speaker 1: her child. That to me speaks of like the human spirit,
Speaker 1: right I.
Speaker 3: Think about like what was going on through that mother's
Speaker 3: mind in those last minutes.
Speaker 1: Just completely losing it, I'm sure, but just wild what
Speaker 1: people endured during the World War. So, another type of
Speaker 1: experimentation that went on was weapons testing. So in Unit
Speaker 1: seven point thirty one, human subjects were also used in
Speaker 1: weapons testing at many facilities. The victims were taken, typically
Speaker 1: to an experimental field like the end of field I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. I'm sure it's close by, I don't know
Speaker 1: exactly where it is, and tied to wooden posts for testing.
Speaker 1: The victims then had plague spreading bombs dropped on them
Speaker 1: on mass were used for target practice, and had grenades
Speaker 1: thrown at them or were burned by flamethrowers.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So this is also similar to the Imperial Japanese Army's
Speaker 1: protocol to use captured Chinese soldiers for bayonet practice. This
Speaker 1: is not new to the Japanese soldiers. Nevertheless, it's an
Speaker 1: example of the unnecessary, unnecessary cruelty exhibited at the facility. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I just have one one more or less.
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is that, Like it's wild.
Speaker 3: It's like how we both covered this and like I
Speaker 3: didn't even come across that stuff.
Speaker 1: It's just I know, yeah.
Speaker 3: Like I thought, I didn't keep going.
Speaker 1: I'm probably thinking what I have is terrible, and then
Speaker 1: when I'm gonna hear your stuff, I'm going to be like, whoa,
Speaker 1: what the heck? Right? So the last type of experiment
Speaker 1: that I have notes on is biological warfare. So World
Speaker 1: War One had brought technological advantage advances in warfare, particularly
Speaker 1: biological warfare, and the experimenters were inspired by the success
Speaker 1: produced by these bioweapons. For example, chlorine gas used during
Speaker 1: the Battle of Epra, probably phos gene, Like we can
Speaker 1: cover it in the bast right, oh God, all.
Speaker 2: Over the place now right.
Speaker 1: Who right? Yeah, going the comeback. That's why it's important
Speaker 1: to talk about these things, right. So the general she
Speaker 1: wrote Ishi uh the infamous doctor behind seven thirty one.
Speaker 1: He experimented extensively in the biological warfare area. So, in
Speaker 1: addition to dropping bombs filled with diseases like anthrax, cholera,
Speaker 1: and typhoid and a bubonic plague on prisoners, ECHI designed
Speaker 1: a special porcelain shelled bomb that allowed infected fleas to
Speaker 1: disperse and infect a wider area. Again, subjects were often
Speaker 1: tied to stakes and bombed. Scientists and protective suits examined
Speaker 1: their bodies afterward. So, actually, didn't you make that connection?
Speaker 1: They were just tied there and like left and then
Speaker 1: what they just roll up in their in their biosuits
Speaker 1: and study the bodies.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm getting out of what you said. Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1: At other times, for example, between October fourth and twenty ninth,
Speaker 1: nineteen forty, low lying airplanes spragued plague bacteria in the
Speaker 1: Chi Chiang province in China, killing twenty one twenty one
Speaker 1: people on the fourth and ninety nine people on the
Speaker 1: twenty ninth. However, estimates for the total number of Chinese
Speaker 1: killed in this manner varies from two hundred thousand to
Speaker 1: five hundred and eighty thousand people.
Speaker 2: These are fucking massive numbers.
Speaker 1: Yeah. As we had said before, the Japanese regarded the
Speaker 1: Chinese as inferior, and as the result, the Chinese were
Speaker 1: considered viable test subjects for these attacks. We can only
Speaker 1: speculate what the unit would have done on a larger
Speaker 1: scale with more biological weapons. Yeah, yep, and that's all
Speaker 1: from me, sir, all right.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Besides, like Unit seven thirty one, there was a you know,
Speaker 3: I think I might have mentioned it earlier, there was
Speaker 3: other like unit numbers that were still like it's like weird.
Speaker 3: It's almost like they had, like, you know, I'm going
Speaker 3: to cover Unit eighteen fifty five. It's almost as if
Speaker 3: that was already under Unit seven thirty one already, right,
Speaker 3: Like they did have, like I think, and the reason
Speaker 3: why I'm covering them is that it does seem like
Speaker 3: these other unit numbers were kind of more specialized.
Speaker 2: In like what they were doing.
Speaker 3: I have a Unit eighteen fifty five was a unit
Speaker 3: for human experimentation that belonged to again the Central Epidemic
Speaker 3: Prevention and Wader for Purification Department of the North China
Speaker 3: Army of the Imperial Japanese Army, stationed in Beijing between
Speaker 3: nineteen thirty eight nineteen forty five.
Speaker 2: Unit eighteen fifty.
Speaker 3: Five was established by the North China Army in nineteen
Speaker 3: thirty eight. The unit was located in a facility not
Speaker 3: far from the Temple of Heaven in Beijing. Real quick,
Speaker 3: if you don't know what the Temple of Heaven is,
Speaker 3: it is a is a complex of imperial religious buildings
Speaker 3: situated in the southeastern part of central Beijing. I just
Speaker 3: find it interesting that they actually put this thing next
Speaker 3: to like a well known religious thing. The unit was
Speaker 3: commanded by the surgeon Colonel Nishimura Yena, who who reported
Speaker 3: directly to shiro Ishi at Unit seven thirty one. When
Speaker 3: I first arrived there, some one hundred prisoners were already
Speaker 3: in cells. Whenever the Japanese doctors made contact with the
Speaker 3: people being tested, they always did so through an interpreter.
Speaker 3: These the test subjects were infected with plague, cholera, and typhus.
Speaker 3: Those not yet infected were kept in different rooms. There
Speaker 3: were large mirrors in the rooms with the subjects to
Speaker 3: those so that those undergoing the testing could be observed better.
Speaker 3: I spoke with prisoners using a microphone and looking through
Speaker 3: the glass panel, interpreted the questions from the doctors, you know,
Speaker 3: and they would just ask them, you know, normal things,
Speaker 3: but you know, they're basically you know, giving people these things,
Speaker 3: throwing them again behind a you know, glass and seeing
Speaker 3: what happened. It had been estimated that Unit eighteen fifty
Speaker 3: five killed about one thousand people between nineteen thirty eight
Speaker 3: and nineteen four. The unit evacuated the facilities in Beijing
Speaker 3: during the Japanese defeat in nineteen forty five, and the
Speaker 3: Chinese entered the building, which was not destroyed and was
Speaker 3: still standing as of nineteen ninety six. So it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, one thing I do find interesting. It's like,
Speaker 3: if this stuff was left there and the other people
Speaker 3: walked in, could you continue to still use it conspiracy
Speaker 3: as that sounds. Then I have a Unit EI sixteen
Speaker 3: forty four again that was part of the Epidemic Prevention
Speaker 3: of Water Purification Department. It was established in nineteen thirty
Speaker 3: nine in Japanese in Japanese occupied Nan king and it
Speaker 3: was a satellite unit of Unit thirty of seven thirty one.
Speaker 3: It had twelve branches and employed about fifteen hundred men.
Speaker 3: Sto claimed in his testimony that the Unit EI did
Speaker 3: not conduct experiments on human beings. An anonymous researcher who
Speaker 3: claims he was attached to Unit sixteen forty four says
Speaker 3: that it regularly carried out human vivissections, as well as
Speaker 3: affecting humans with again cholera, typhus, and the bubonic plague.
Speaker 3: Every week, between ten to twenty prisoners. They were exposed
Speaker 3: to poisons, germs, and different gases, and about ten were
Speaker 3: killed weekly by guests having my own problem with you,
Speaker 3: lethal injections and bullets.
Speaker 2: Let me just rethrough that, all over it.
Speaker 3: The human experiments on Unit I E sixteen five four
Speaker 3: took place in the confines of the fourth floor in
Speaker 3: the facility, which was out of bounds for the majority
Speaker 3: of the unit. Reportedly, only a minority of the staff
Speaker 3: took part in the BW experiments on humans in Unit
Speaker 3: sixteen forty four, such as the unit doctors and high
Speaker 3: level technicians. Each week, between ten to twenty persons were
Speaker 3: exposed to poisons, germs in different gases, and about ten
Speaker 3: were killed weekly by gases, lethal injections, and bullets. A
Speaker 3: soldier stationed at the unit testified that ordinary soldiers were
Speaker 3: not allowed beyond the second floor and not informed that
Speaker 3: human experiments were taking place there, but the aware.
Speaker 2: Of rumors to that effect.
Speaker 3: The soldier had heard that there were prisoners kept on
Speaker 3: the fourth floor and was told by an officer, there
Speaker 3: is a lumbage lumber storage facility on the fourth floor.
Speaker 3: Never go above the second floor. You got it again.
Speaker 3: That's almost like you know, calling them logs m H.
Speaker 2: That yeah, then uh, you know some biological warfare.
Speaker 3: In late August nineteen forty two, a Unit EI participated
Speaker 3: in a biological attack against Chinese citizens and soldiers in
Speaker 3: Yushen County, Jinhua, and Fuqing.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: The advanced Chinese troops entered their contaminated zone and came
Speaker 3: under the action of by a bacterial logical weapon, cholera
Speaker 3: and play cultures. So Sato testified he was told that
Speaker 3: the play kol kolera and paratyphoid germs were employed against
Speaker 3: the Chinese by spraying here, they are like spraying more
Speaker 3: biological weapons on people.
Speaker 2: Dismemberment.
Speaker 3: Like experiments at Auschwitz and other Nazi concentration camps, Units
Speaker 3: seven thirty one doctors and researches studied the potential survival
Speaker 3: of soldiers on the battleflee, but instead of using Japanese
Speaker 3: soldiers for these experiments, Units seven thirty one used Allied POWs,
Speaker 3: as well as Chinese and Russian civilians. One such war
Speaker 3: influence experiment was in various dismemberment, particularly limb amputations, to
Speaker 3: study the effects of blood laws. Other forms of dismemberment
Speaker 3: were purely experimental and non combat related. For example, some
Speaker 3: amputated limbs were reattached to other sides of the body.
Speaker 3: Other times were frozen and amputated until only the victim's
Speaker 3: head in torso remained. Often this was done without an
Speaker 3: aesthetic for fear of negatively affecting the experiments.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, some evil scientists share right.
Speaker 2: There, lethal injections.
Speaker 3: Initially, many of unit's seven thirty one disease experiments were
Speaker 3: performed as preventative measures. The Japanese had found that eighty
Speaker 3: nine percent of battlefield deaths from the First Sino Japanese
Speaker 3: War were from diseases. I found that interesting with these
Speaker 3: experiments into preventative medicines, and vaccines evolved into offensive use
Speaker 3: as the war progressed. Unit seven thirty one was split
Speaker 3: into eight divisions. The first focused on experimenting with bacterial
Speaker 3: liary logical diseases, including the bubonic played, cholera, anthrax, typhoid,
Speaker 3: and tuberculosis.
Speaker 2: These bacteria were.
Speaker 3: Injected into subjects regularly, and the resulting infections were studied
Speaker 3: the outcomes because the outcomes became increasingly deadly because many
Speaker 3: people lived in communal cells. So again, you know, now
Speaker 3: they're injecting people with a little sorts of weird stuff.
Speaker 1: Not to interrupt you, sorry, it's kind of interesting because
Speaker 1: I have come across in research before that a lot
Speaker 1: of people in concentration camps in Germany did not actually
Speaker 1: die like in gas chambers, but they actually died of
Speaker 1: like typhus or like typhoid. I wonder if that was
Speaker 1: like on purpose, or if that just was like consequential
Speaker 1: of like having a bunch of people in tight living
Speaker 1: quarters and like not very sanitary conditions. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Children were not exempt from the unit's atrocities, as vertical
Speaker 3: transmissions from mother to fetus were studied.
Speaker 2: This included diseases like syphless.
Speaker 3: The researchers studied how syphless would affect the resulting babies
Speaker 3: health and how it would harm the mother's reproductive system.
Speaker 3: Although we don't know the number of children born in captivity,
Speaker 3: it is known that none had survived when the unit
Speaker 3: dissolved in nineteen forty five. While diseases like tuberculosis in
Speaker 3: small pox could be injected, syphless and gonorrhea required a
Speaker 3: different method of injection. This was done using a male
Speaker 3: in a female, one of whom who was infected. The
Speaker 3: couple was forced to have sexual intercourse under the threat
Speaker 3: of being shot. The infected bodies were later vivisected to
Speaker 3: see the internal results.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, that's really kind of about what I had.
Speaker 3: I mean, I have a little bit more on Viv's section,
Speaker 3: but I mean I think for the most part people
Speaker 3: if you don't know what.
Speaker 2: VIV section is, go look it up.
Speaker 3: But you know, I don't think there's any reason to
Speaker 3: really get into that more. Something else I do even
Speaker 3: want to add to you know, when you know this
Speaker 3: place that was a prison that eventually got turned into
Speaker 3: you know, these testing sites, there is not one person that.
Speaker 1: Left walked out alive, not one.
Speaker 3: Every single person in soul that was put into that
Speaker 3: building was tested and killed, every single one.
Speaker 1: Yep, there is a.
Speaker 2: Fuck ton of people that this was done too.
Speaker 1: Yes, and then not not to downplay you know, Germany,
Speaker 1: what happened in concentration camps but eventually, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of some people were liberated alive. There were survivors,
Speaker 1: you know, Oh yes, here there was not a single soul.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have people running around with these supposed
Speaker 3: barcodes on them saying that they're still alive from them.
Speaker 1: Well, and interestingly, the Allied forces didn't care to save
Speaker 1: anyone in the Japanese experimental camps.
Speaker 3: Right, No, they didn't save anyone, and then they gave
Speaker 3: them a pass after they handed.
Speaker 2: Them over their findings.
Speaker 3: Interesting, you know, and again like you know, we had
Speaker 3: mentioned Project paper Clip before, like that's like we were saying,
Speaker 3: that's not a conspiracy.
Speaker 2: The government is pretty open and.
Speaker 3: Honest about some of the Nazi scientists they took over.
Speaker 1: Mm hm.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, I guess like part of the reason
Speaker 3: I wanted to cover this too is that, you know,
Speaker 3: not too bash where I am. But you have to
Speaker 3: question why were these atrocities allowed?
Speaker 2: I'm saying aloud.
Speaker 3: I mean, I question allowed to happen and then kind
Speaker 3: of you know, gave him a little pat on the
Speaker 3: ass and let him go.
Speaker 1: Mm hm.
Speaker 3: We took information from the Nazis and the Japanese who
Speaker 3: were doing horrific shit to people.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: And something else I also wanted to mention too, which
Speaker 3: I do find questionable about a lot of this stuff,
Speaker 3: is that, you know, we were a part of, like
Speaker 3: the It almost seems as if like, since we were
Speaker 3: agreeing to not do these things a part of like
Speaker 3: these conventions and things that we were part of, but
Speaker 3: these other countries that were doing it were not. It
Speaker 3: almost seems convenient. You know, we can't do this, but
Speaker 3: we can learn from the people who haven't agreed to
Speaker 3: not do this, right, And that is still sick to me.
Speaker 2: You are no different than the people doing.
Speaker 1: It to an extent, you know, absolutely, So.
Speaker 2: I know sometimes people, you know, why do.
Speaker 3: You cover old silly stuff. It's so that maybe we
Speaker 3: could see where we actually are here today.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. You know.
Speaker 3: So that was like not to point at and try
Speaker 3: to grift off of horrible sick stuff. It's just I
Speaker 3: found it interesting that all this stuff happened in the
Speaker 3: United States was.
Speaker 2: And so was even Russia.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, thanks for the tips, guys.
Speaker 2: We gave us some paperwork.
Speaker 1: It's all right, god yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Is the atrocities of Unit seven thirty one m h
Speaker 3: And if you're still listening. I appreciate that, and yeah,
Speaker 3: I hope you like again, like you understand what we're
Speaker 3: getting at the reason of covering this, it was not
Speaker 3: to glamorize and to try to get it's off of
Speaker 3: a terror right, you know, terrifying, disgusting topic. It's just
Speaker 3: to show you, like what stuff we have been okay with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know people call for war crimes trials, get mo.
Speaker 2: This tribunals, tribal.
Speaker 1: Thinking that you know, America is going to give the
Speaker 1: world justice.
Speaker 2: That's you know, this is exactly.
Speaker 1: Some beacon of liberty and constitutional values.
Speaker 2: That was one of the things, guys.
Speaker 3: One of the reasons why I wanted to cover this.
Speaker 3: Not that I got Q tards listening to my show, No,
Speaker 3: but like, when we have allowed this shit going on,
Speaker 3: you really think we're gonna have tribuona ossoris.
Speaker 1: No, We're already supposed to have these rules in place,
Speaker 1: like there already was you know, war crimes trials after
Speaker 1: World War Two, that those rules are not upheld really whatsoever?
Speaker 1: So why would there be any justice done for anyone
Speaker 1: when the ones in charge are still the same group
Speaker 1: of people running around?
Speaker 3: I mean, from my point of view, it seems like
Speaker 3: whenever somebody does something fucked up, we were just like,
Speaker 3: oh yo, can you tell us how that worked out
Speaker 3: for you?
Speaker 2: You know, seem to do with that goddamn think about
Speaker 2: fucking anything.
Speaker 1: Honestly, Yeah, that's so true. Sorry, did you have any
Speaker 1: more experiments to get into?
Speaker 2: No, no, I am done on my end. All right.
Speaker 1: Would you like to know a little bit about General
Speaker 1: Ishi Shiro, the main doctor, because what just to go
Speaker 1: off of what you were saying, like America did know
Speaker 1: what was going on, and they didn't do anything to
Speaker 1: stop it, you know, this great, great nation of justice.
Speaker 1: So just to get into doctor Ishi Shiro himself a
Speaker 1: little bit, he's the main one. I couldn't find much
Speaker 1: information on other doctors involved, so I'll just talk about
Speaker 1: him a little bit.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: General Ishi Shiro was the founder and leader of the
Speaker 1: Imperial Army Biological Warfare Research Unit seven thirty one. He
Speaker 1: was flamboyant and arrogant. He was disposed to grandiose schemes
Speaker 1: and outlandish claims. He was often described as eccentric, yet
Speaker 1: highly intelligent and energetic. Ishi is viewed as the father
Speaker 1: of Japan's biological weapons program for the role he played
Speaker 1: in pushing the High command to fund biological weapons research.
Speaker 1: He was not the only person conducting experiments because there
Speaker 1: was many biological warfare research centers similar to Unit seven
Speaker 1: thirty one. However, he was accepted by the medical and
Speaker 1: university academic community because he ended up marrying one of
Speaker 1: the university president's daughters. Smart play right right, yeah exactly,
Speaker 1: oh Man, as we get. As I touched on before,
Speaker 1: it was understood in Japanese medical school that becoming a
Speaker 1: doctor was to help people and do no harm. But again,
Speaker 1: no hippocratic oath and no ethics training whatsoever. Instead, many
Speaker 1: of these young men were instilled with a very strong
Speaker 1: sense of nationalism and patriotic duty. This led many scientists
Speaker 1: to believe that medicine should be used as a weapon
Speaker 1: to accomplish the goals of their nation. Along with the
Speaker 1: sense of nationalism came a strong sense of racial superiority.
Speaker 1: Racial superiority which was believed to be backed by science.
Speaker 1: In this era of rapid discovery, science was king, guys,
Speaker 1: we're here, not even one hundred years later, We're back
Speaker 1: so I She himself had a strong desire to advance
Speaker 1: his position. He did so often at the chagrin of
Speaker 1: others who considered him brash, pushy, and arrogant. Sounds like
Speaker 1: Trump and Kanye Oh god okay. He graduated as a
Speaker 1: medical doctor in nineteen twenty at the age of twenty eight.
Speaker 1: He eventually married President Iraqi's daughter, so that's the president
Speaker 1: of one of the universities, to solidify his relationship with
Speaker 1: Kyoto's medical school and research department. It was not long
Speaker 1: after he graduated that Ishi joined the army and was
Speaker 1: commissioned as a lieutenant in nineteen twenty two. Ichi transferred
Speaker 1: to the first Army Hospital in Tokyo, where he pursued research,
Speaker 1: which was in fact his true passion, not generally practicing
Speaker 1: medicine whatsoever. He just wanted to fuck around with weird shit.
Speaker 1: During his military career, he maintained the ties that he
Speaker 1: had built at Kyoto University and other leading research institutions
Speaker 1: like Tokyo University as well. He later used these universities
Speaker 1: as recruiting grounds to bring young scientists and doctors into
Speaker 1: his employment. She's connections within the Japanese university system were
Speaker 1: extensive thanks to his marriage and charismatic personality. Network of
Speaker 1: allies within the military and educational sectors served him later
Speaker 1: in life by allowing him to secure funding and personnel.
Speaker 1: The universities in military provided the means to conduct his research,
Speaker 1: but it was truly his ultranationalistic mentality that motivated his actions.
Speaker 3: Interesting, uh, I guess this shows you how well nationalism works.
Speaker 1: Works very well.
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, And that is something I'm just gonna mention
Speaker 3: real quick and something that we probably will cover in
Speaker 3: the future. But you know, not for nothing, for real,
Speaker 3: for real. Maybe people don't know it because like they
Speaker 3: don't know podcasters personally, but there is a serious, serious,
Speaker 3: fucking rise in Nazism and nationalism that you would never
Speaker 3: know coming from people that never know.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say it's just podcasters. I'd say that
Speaker 1: there is a concerning rise in ultra right mentality and
Speaker 1: ultra nationalistic mentality in the truther or conspiracy community at large,
Speaker 1: which many of them happen to also be podcasters.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's just you know what the thing is too,
Speaker 3: Like I do get the idea, like I am all
Speaker 3: for let's take care of this country and stop worrying about.
Speaker 2: All the ones. Of course, you know, let's let's fix
Speaker 2: our ship first.
Speaker 3: But there is a huge rise and I just really
Speaker 3: Nazi idol you know, ideas, and it's just I don't
Speaker 3: think it's good and I do think it's by design,
Speaker 3: just saying absolutely. And the crazy thing is is that
Speaker 3: you will get people who actually think that like shit
Speaker 3: that the Nazi party started on was pure and got
Speaker 3: you know, got in full true. That's that's a very
Speaker 3: scary thing that.
Speaker 2: People are actually entertaining.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Yes, because.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, as soon as the where Nazi pops up,
Speaker 3: that is telling you there is a magician involved and
Speaker 3: you were going to think what they want you to think,
Speaker 3: you were going to believe what they want you to believe,
Speaker 3: or going by whatever video footage.
Speaker 2: They hand you that they probably made themselves just like
Speaker 2: the A's off battalion. Just real cool.
Speaker 3: I wanted to throw that in there because it is
Speaker 3: something that I've actually been noticing a lot lately and
Speaker 3: has been kind of disheartening. And unfortunately it's just like,
Speaker 3: you know, we have people out there who are supposedly,
Speaker 3: you know, authorities on knowledge, but seem to be rather
Speaker 3: ignorant in other things.
Speaker 1: Well again, you know, I agree one hundred percent with
Speaker 1: what you're saying it's very dangerous, and it's a romanticized
Speaker 1: version of what the Nazis were doing and what they
Speaker 1: were about, just like the left romanticizes communism and science
Speaker 1: and science and both vicism. These are not new concepts
Speaker 1: and we should learn from the past the dangers of
Speaker 1: these extremes period.
Speaker 2: And so why we're doing this episode.
Speaker 1: Two exactly Yes, so no, not at all. I think
Speaker 1: it's very important to state, honestly. So. Towards the end
Speaker 1: of the Second World War, there was a concerted effort
Speaker 1: by the Japanese government to disconnect the imperial family, so
Speaker 1: the Emperor's family, from the actions of the Japanese military
Speaker 1: to prevent to protect the emperor from prosecution, but eyewitness
Speaker 1: testimony states that the Imperial Prince was present at tests
Speaker 1: involving humans. Some historians also know that many of the
Speaker 1: imperial family were privy to what was going on in
Speaker 1: the camps, like Unit seven thirty one. Early in the
Speaker 1: investigation of Unit seven three won by the United States,
Speaker 1: one of Ishi's top officers named Naito Ryochi, probably butchering
Speaker 1: that sorry listed the emperor as the top chain of
Speaker 1: command of Unit seven thirty one, So he knew what
Speaker 1: was going on. Maybe not everything, but generally most of
Speaker 1: the evidence enough. Yeah, most of the evidence for the
Speaker 1: emperor's involvement is circumstantial. So saying like that the emperor's
Speaker 1: cousin was present at a field test, that the emperor's
Speaker 1: brother watched films of bubonic plague bombs being dropped onto
Speaker 1: Chinese civilians, things like this. Also, Emperor Hirohito signed in
Speaker 1: order to expand Unit seven thirty one. However, the order
Speaker 1: did not give specific description of the unit's activities, so
Speaker 1: it's unclear if he even knew what was exactly happening.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: See, I also wonder like, if you're that vague, is
Speaker 3: that because you're just trying to play off or not specifying.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's to prevent the emperor from being fully complicit.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, I'm saying it's actually a way of
Speaker 3: him being complicit. But there's no evidence of him showing
Speaker 3: that he actually exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that he can have a loophole together.
Speaker 2: Oh, I had no idea, but yet yet.
Speaker 1: You did totally right, Yeah right? Oh gosh, So the
Speaker 1: United States was well aware of the activities of Unit
Speaker 1: seven thirty one, a fact that was alluded to by
Speaker 1: American investigators after the war. However, before these investigations, the
Speaker 1: United States did know what Japan was up to, specifically
Speaker 1: about conducting experiments with biological and chemical weapons, although maybe
Speaker 1: the full extent of experiments was not known. But by
Speaker 1: nineteen forty six, the United States had received several reports
Speaker 1: that experiments were conducted on Allied prisoners of war by
Speaker 1: Unit one hundred and Unit seven thirty one. In nineteen
Speaker 1: forty six, letter was sent to General Douglas MacArthur stating
Speaker 1: that experiments were conducted on at least three Allied prisoners
Speaker 1: of war at the Infectious Disease Research Laboratory in Tokyo. One.
Speaker 1: Anonymous Youth Corps member who worked at Unit seven point
Speaker 1: thirty one later described his job task as preserving human
Speaker 1: specimens in formuline, which is a chemical like formaldehyde. I
Speaker 1: guess these were specimens of adults, children, babies, heads, organs,
Speaker 1: and entire bodies. He recalled that they were separated by nationality.
Speaker 1: He saw Chinese, Russian, Korean, British, French, and American specimens.
Speaker 1: This is only one example of Americans used for experimentation,
Speaker 1: and there were several court cases that described the experimentation
Speaker 1: and murder of several of the United States citizens by
Speaker 1: the Japanese. In some cases, Americans were beheaded, their heads
Speaker 1: were boiled, and skulls sent back to Tokyo as specimens
Speaker 1: for study connections were not made to Unit seven thirty
Speaker 1: one during these trials, either because of a lack of
Speaker 1: due diligence during the investigation process or because they were
Speaker 1: officially suppressed. It is well documented by historians now that
Speaker 1: the United States was actively suppressing knowledge of Japan's human
Speaker 1: experimentation and activities in biological warfare, particularly around Unit seven
Speaker 1: thirty one. This is, of course not the first time
Speaker 1: that the United States has suppressed knowledge of human experimentation,
Speaker 1: as they had already captured many Nazi scientists and brought
Speaker 1: them back to the United States to work on various
Speaker 1: projects such as building American rockets hello Werner von Braun.
Speaker 1: Nor would the human experiments have shopped the US government,
Speaker 1: as they had been conducting their own experiments as well
Speaker 1: since nineteen twenty two and continued to do so for
Speaker 1: many years post war. Because of the cover up involved
Speaker 1: few people who committed the crimes in Japan or Germany
Speaker 1: in the name of science were prosecuted. Doctor Hi himself
Speaker 1: died from cancer in nineteen fifty nine and was never
Speaker 1: prosecuted for his crimes. Many other high ranking officers in
Speaker 1: various units went back to Japan, re entered the university system,
Speaker 1: and played prominent roles in Japan's medical and academic communities.
Speaker 1: Unlike their victims, most of these men and women went
Speaker 1: on to live full lives and were exposed only after
Speaker 1: many years of silence, or after many of the perpetrators
Speaker 1: had already died of old age. The emerging conflict with
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union later on outweighed the need for justice,
Speaker 1: So the US tried very hard to keep the Soviets
Speaker 1: from gaining access to the knowledge and men of Unit
Speaker 1: seven thirty one. So they're competing for the knowledge and
Speaker 1: the secrets so that their other adversary does not get
Speaker 1: a grip on them. Instead of prosecuting the bad guy,
Speaker 1: we're just going to fight over the.
Speaker 2: Bad guy, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sure. The Soviets did also capture some people from Unit
Speaker 1: seven thirty one who were trying to flee. Many of
Speaker 1: these men stood trial in the Kabarskov Sorry trials held
Speaker 1: in the Soviet Union at the time of these trials,
Speaker 1: the United States stated that the trials were just propaganda.
Speaker 1: Yeaham at least the Russians tried even if it was
Speaker 1: like a mock trial, they still attempted something, right.
Speaker 3: God, I thought that was wild when I did come across,
Speaker 3: you know, and then eventually I just asked you to
Speaker 3: look into that part. But when I did kind of
Speaker 3: come across some of that stuff, I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: like like they didn't what you just said. This is
Speaker 3: fucking crazy, it's nuts. They were like, oh, it's propaganda.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, what Like It's like I feel like
Speaker 3: this country just loves using that word whenever they want
Speaker 3: to cover their own ass.
Speaker 2: Propaganda. It's propaganda, it's propaganda, right, Yep.
Speaker 1: Well, there is that thing h Smith Mund Act. I
Speaker 1: forget when that was past. I believe it was under Obama.
Speaker 1: Smith's mund Act is United States legislation that states propaganda
Speaker 1: can be used to get into his own citizens.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I didn't know that was actually the name
Speaker 3: for that m That's interesting.
Speaker 2: That's actually something not saying that it's not real.
Speaker 3: It's just I would like to actually find I've I've
Speaker 3: wondered what that name exactly is and then bill number
Speaker 3: because I would actually like to look at it physically,
Speaker 3: I think find, Yeah, that might actually be interesting to
Speaker 3: cover since I think a lot of people actually think
Speaker 3: it's like a fable.
Speaker 1: No, say, yeah, it's real. I remember learning about it
Speaker 1: in the university. Even. Yeah, pretty wild stuff. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's uh Unit seven thirty one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so again some real horrible atrocities and you know,
Speaker 3: just again like what she even covered, just more proof
Speaker 3: of our country sweeping under the rug and claiming propaganda
Speaker 3: and trying to you know, church up the situation. Very
Speaker 3: disturbing stuff. And again, like I was saying, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to show stuff in the past, and then
Speaker 3: maybe we can sit here and wonder about you know,
Speaker 3: where are we now and don't know about you know,
Speaker 3: what are we what are we really doing?
Speaker 2: What is the goal? Who are they really you.
Speaker 3: Know, just when you look at this stuff, it's just
Speaker 3: almost contradiction and of what we think our government's doing
Speaker 3: right to say.
Speaker 1: It, Yeah, and why do certain people get protected?
Speaker 3: So yeah, that is the end of Unit seven thirty one. Again,
Speaker 3: thank you all if you've made it through the episode.
Speaker 3: I thought it was you know, pretty pretty graphic and disturbing,
Speaker 3: but again like there was a reason for it. Uh yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the end of this. I really ain't got much
Speaker 3: to say. I got some you know, stupid shit to
Speaker 3: spiel at the end. Really, I just think we're done
Speaker 3: with this topic. And there you go pretty pretty horrific stuff.
Speaker 3: Just to reiterate, like we were saying at the beginning,
Speaker 3: if you do watch our videos, you know, we do
Speaker 3: have podcasts, and if you do want, if you do
Speaker 3: listen to the podcasts, we do have videos. I do
Speaker 3: also have a bunch of stuff I could throw up
Speaker 3: on the screen for this. I'm not quite sure yet
Speaker 3: if I'm actually going to, but there is there may
Speaker 3: be visuals for this episode you know, to see as well.
Speaker 3: So that's kind of why I'm mentioning the whole video thing.
Speaker 3: If you're listening, sometimes there is episodes where if you
Speaker 3: watch it on video, there is also visual stuff to
Speaker 3: go along with the episode. So if you listen, maybe
Speaker 3: check out the videos as well. Censored stuff for stuff
Speaker 3: that I do think will probably be censored, will end
Speaker 3: up on Rumble.
Speaker 2: So if you follow us on YouTube, you may see
Speaker 2: less videos dropped.
Speaker 3: And when that happens, you know, if there's a week
Speaker 3: where on a Monday you don't see something for me
Speaker 3: dropped odds are it's on Rumble and it was not,
Speaker 3: you know, probably good for YouTube. This topic I have
Speaker 3: seen on YouTube, so I'm assuming it's okay to be
Speaker 3: on YouTube.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Most of this is I kind of like what we're
Speaker 3: saying public knowledge now, but for some reason, Dan, it wasn't,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: So this will be on YouTube again.
Speaker 3: Like I'm saying, check out Rumble for sense stuff, and
Speaker 3: uh yeah, check out the Spiritual Gangsters as well. The
Speaker 3: link for her stuff will be in the bottom. I
Speaker 3: do have the link for some of the Spiritual Gangsters
Speaker 3: in my link tree, but almost all the links, all
Speaker 3: the links are available on hers, so I will include
Speaker 3: uh Teresa's link tree as well for all the links
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Speaker 3: you know, check out a social media check out Teresa's,
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so.
Speaker 3: Check out the links in the bottom and again, uh,
Speaker 3: thank you for all tuning in and checking this out.
Speaker 3: And that is the end of another NY Patriot Show
Speaker 3: until the next one.
Speaker 2: Everybody be well later