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<v Speaker 1>Joining me to talk about this super cool program that

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<v Speaker 1>Metropolitan State Go Roadrunners has to help students find housing

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<v Speaker 1>is Abbi Kel. She's the MSU Associate director of Basic

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<v Speaker 1>Needs and Housing Support. Abby, Welcome to the show. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about this program where you are helping

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<v Speaker 1>students find housing and you're going to an interesting source

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<v Speaker 1>to find it.

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<v Speaker 3>But let me ask you this question first.

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<v Speaker 1>MSU is more of what we would call a commuter

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<v Speaker 1>campus in that you don't have traditional dormitories and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So is finding housing for your students in

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<v Speaker 1>this extremely pricey rental market is it challenging overall?

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<v Speaker 3>How does your department work on that?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a great question.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, MSU is always known as a commuter, commuter campus,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's a kind of a little bit of yes

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<v Speaker 4>and a kind of a little bit of no. Because

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<v Speaker 4>while students, even students who are considered commuter students, they

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<v Speaker 4>still have to have housing, they still have to have

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<v Speaker 4>a place to live. And we're finding more and more students,

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<v Speaker 4>whether they're a commuter or traditional or living closing campus,

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<v Speaker 4>are just experiencing the heavy burdis some of the high

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<v Speaker 4>cost of rent in Denver, and students are particularly struggling

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<v Speaker 4>with that because they still have to live within the

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<v Speaker 4>Denver market. There's really no reduced rates and costs for students,

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<v Speaker 4>and so we're seeing more and more every single year

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<v Speaker 4>of increase of students coming to us asking for resources, relocations, options,

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<v Speaker 4>and just general navigation on how to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>So where this program that we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>today in this Does this program have a specific name?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So the program is its own nonprofit. It is

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<v Speaker 4>called Sunshine Home Share, and so it's its own nonprofit

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<v Speaker 4>that we partner with to match students up with a

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<v Speaker 4>senior citizen in the community to live in their house,

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<v Speaker 4>to pay rent in their house, but also provide community

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<v Speaker 4>in that house as well. It's not for everyone. It's

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<v Speaker 4>not a perfect but it's definitely part of the housing

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<v Speaker 4>conversation we're having because not one solution is going to

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<v Speaker 4>fix all for our students, but it is a great

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<v Speaker 4>option for folks seeking an alternative.

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<v Speaker 2>How an alternative option that's not just renting from a partner.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that I don't think we do

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<v Speaker 1>well in this country is intergenerational living, because around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>intergenerational living is the standard in many countries, meaning you

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<v Speaker 1>may have a household with the grandmother, the parents, and

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<v Speaker 1>the kids grown kids under one roof, but and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>stay there until you get married. Kind of thing in

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<v Speaker 1>many countries. But I think here we're so spread out

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<v Speaker 1>and we're so independent that we lose that. So what

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<v Speaker 1>are some of the benefits for the young people or

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<v Speaker 1>for the students that may be taking advantage of this.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, so far, the students that have taken advantage

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<v Speaker 4>of this would be kind of your non traditional students,

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<v Speaker 4>so would be returning to pursue a different career or

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<v Speaker 4>change directions. And so so far the students we've seen

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<v Speaker 4>are a little bit older, you know, later twenties, mid

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<v Speaker 4>thirties that are seeking it out. But I think the

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<v Speaker 4>benefits really are for both people. The benefits for the

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<v Speaker 4>student one is achieve a rent. They're having to save

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit money on their bills by paying a

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<v Speaker 4>lower coross rent.

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<v Speaker 2>They're also able to connect with.

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<v Speaker 4>Someone in the community and then not might meet at school,

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<v Speaker 4>at their work and someone that also comes from a

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<v Speaker 4>different way of life in a background. And then also

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<v Speaker 4>I think it comes with the community aspect of just

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<v Speaker 4>I'm living in someone else's home and I am respecting

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<v Speaker 4>their space.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm respecting this person, and.

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<v Speaker 4>We're learning how to live together, and we're learning how

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<v Speaker 4>to thrive together as well, because while they have come

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<v Speaker 4>from their own situation, you know, the person in the

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<v Speaker 4>home who owns the home, who's sharing it with them,

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<v Speaker 4>can share their insights of how they got to where

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<v Speaker 4>they are and the growth and also even possible connections

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<v Speaker 4>down the line for themselves in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>So, no, you're not going to just like have somebody

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<v Speaker 1>like say I sign up. Because I hate to say it,

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<v Speaker 1>you said senior citizen. I'm fifty five, so technically I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in this category and I'm not a senior citizen abbey.

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<v Speaker 1>But that being said, you're not just going to like

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<v Speaker 1>assign someone, right, I'm not just going to like open

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<v Speaker 1>up my door to a complete stranger and have no

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<v Speaker 1>say in that.

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<v Speaker 3>How does the process work?

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's a great question. You have to be super

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<v Speaker 4>intentional one. It's not going to be for every student.

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<v Speaker 4>So when I meet with students, when our case managers

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<v Speaker 4>meet with students, we talk them through the options of

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<v Speaker 4>what they have for housing. And it's usually a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit farther down the list for our students, and when

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<v Speaker 4>we get when we get to talking about it, we

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<v Speaker 4>really upfront the whole process with them and make sure

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<v Speaker 4>they understand because the Sunshine Home Share program does a

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<v Speaker 4>really intentional job of doing backgrounds, doing meet and greets.

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<v Speaker 4>They even do a temporary stay, so when the match

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<v Speaker 4>is kind of through some of the process and they're

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<v Speaker 4>seeing good signs, the student will actually do a two

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<v Speaker 4>week temporary stay with the family and the home to

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<v Speaker 4>see if it's actually a good fit.

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<v Speaker 2>And then also ongoing they do ongoing case management.

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<v Speaker 4>They check in in the home, they see if things

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<v Speaker 4>are going well, and if things are not going well,

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<v Speaker 4>they're able to mitigate it, talk about it, sit down

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<v Speaker 4>and see what it is to help just with the

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<v Speaker 4>transition process.

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<v Speaker 1>So it seems to me like this may be a

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<v Speaker 1>better fit for a more mature student. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>can be a twenty year old mature student. Everybody that

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<v Speaker 1>went to college knows that like the normal undergrad dorms

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<v Speaker 1>where all the chaos was, but the graduate dorms were

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<v Speaker 1>where all the calm, adult people lived.

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<v Speaker 3>So it seems to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like perhaps this would be a better fit for a

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<v Speaker 1>more mature student.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. I think so.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it has worked a little bit better for

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<v Speaker 4>some of our mature students, but I still don't shy

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<v Speaker 4>away for some of our younger adults who might be

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<v Speaker 4>more traditional in their younger twenties, because they too might

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<v Speaker 4>have grown up in some multi generational households. Into them,

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<v Speaker 4>it might seem like a good fit because that's used

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<v Speaker 4>the home that they're already used to, and so it's

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<v Speaker 4>like it's not going to be perfect for everyone. But

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's really just exploring the option of how

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<v Speaker 4>can I be a part of the community. How can

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<v Speaker 4>I help someone keep themselves in their home? How can

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<v Speaker 4>I also just have a cheaper rent for a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of years so that I can achieve my long term goals.

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<v Speaker 2>WI I'm in college.

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<v Speaker 1>Where speaking of cheaper rent, how much cheaper? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have a ballpark of what people are paying

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<v Speaker 1>or is there a set amount?

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<v Speaker 3>How does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>There tends to be.

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<v Speaker 4>Somewhere between five and seven hundred and fifty dollars for

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<v Speaker 4>the student.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how much they charge. It can really fluctuate based

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<v Speaker 2>on just like.

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<v Speaker 4>Where they are in the community, you know how close

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<v Speaker 4>they are to transportation, but generally that's where it's that

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<v Speaker 4>ballpark range is.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody just asks, I'm guessing the students would have their

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<v Speaker 1>own transportation. So this is a you are renting from

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<v Speaker 1>a landlord. Just like you would not expect to use

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<v Speaker 1>your landlord's vehicle. You are going to have to provide

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself on everything else, your food, your transportation, and

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you would have to have your own transportation.

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<v Speaker 4>But then there's pros and cons of if you don't

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<v Speaker 4>have transportation, seeing if there's a home share that is

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<v Speaker 4>close to public transportation, or if you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 4>a margaret commuter with a bike. In those kind of aspects,

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<v Speaker 4>you can always rely on those. But yes, like some

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<v Speaker 4>of the amenities like cars, food, household supplies like TVs

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<v Speaker 4>and things like that, those are separated.

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<v Speaker 1>Now do you have to have do you have any

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<v Speaker 1>say on whether or not you rent to a male

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<v Speaker 1>or a female?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a great question.

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<v Speaker 4>And also just like people have different preferences on what

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<v Speaker 4>they feel safe and comfortable with the story we did

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<v Speaker 4>through red. Actually the homeowner that was seeking someone to

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<v Speaker 4>do a room share originally wanted a female, but just

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<v Speaker 4>through a handful of interviews, landed on the student TJ

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<v Speaker 4>and just felt really comfortable and safe with them.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can do like preferences on who you would.

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<v Speaker 4>Like to reside with, because both sides want to respect

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<v Speaker 4>everyone's choice and safety in that and no one wants

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<v Speaker 4>to be uncomfortable in their home, the renter or the homeowner.

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<v Speaker 3>How can people sign up?

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<v Speaker 1>As I said to you off the air, Abby, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you there are people listening to the show

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<v Speaker 1>right now who would love the little extra and come

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe love the company right because when you're an

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<v Speaker 1>empty nester and all the kids are gone, you may

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<v Speaker 1>find out that you don't love living by yourself. How

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<v Speaker 1>can people get involved? Sign up or get more information?

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a couple different ways.

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<v Speaker 4>The first thing I would direct you to the Sunshine

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<v Speaker 4>Homeshare website, and that Sunshine Homeshare website is just Sunshinehomeshare

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<v Speaker 4>dot org. And you can look at the website, you

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<v Speaker 4>can look at the application process, you can look at

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<v Speaker 4>the screening on the tenant side and as well as

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<v Speaker 4>the homeowner side, and you can apply, or you can

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<v Speaker 4>also just reach out and ask questions the staff. They

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<v Speaker 4>are wonderful and love to talk about this program because

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<v Speaker 4>they're very passionate about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I find it interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at their website and it says Geriatric

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<v Speaker 1>social Workers staff by experienced geriatric social workers that have

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<v Speaker 1>education and backgrounds working with homebound older adults and are

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<v Speaker 1>knowledgeable about social work based home sharing. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>not just some really nearly you know like rental site.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an apartments dot com. This is much more complex.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an Evidence Bates model.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's been researched on how it keeps, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>seniors in their homes. It keeps them also longer longevity

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<v Speaker 4>in their lifespans, and then also the support to the

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<v Speaker 4>tenant as well, providing a vital piece that they need

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<v Speaker 4>affordable housing to live in wherever they are in their life.

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<v Speaker 3>Abi Kel, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that Metro State did a story on this

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<v Speaker 1>because I would have never known it, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it is one of the coolest programs. One of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite favorite people is a lady named Hazel, and Hazel's

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<v Speaker 1>in her nineties now, but she has a tenant in

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<v Speaker 1>her home named Bill, and Bill has now become so

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<v Speaker 1>much more than a tenant for Hazel and I see

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<v Speaker 1>that relationship and that's the first thing I thought of

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<v Speaker 1>when I thought of this program, is how much they

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<v Speaker 1>both get from each other in terms of that relationship

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<v Speaker 1>that started as a tenant landlord relationship and now has

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<v Speaker 1>become so much more. So well done, and I hope,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope lots of my listeners take advantage of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody asks, how far can they live from the college.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a perimeter that you need to be within?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean it's really.

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<v Speaker 4>Just based off that again, the tenant if they're comfortable

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<v Speaker 4>with it, So I mean they can expand from Boulder

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<v Speaker 4>all the way to look Side.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's you know, that's who they're who are to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be owning the homes and if the student is comfortable

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<v Speaker 4>with that type of commune, then the match.

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<v Speaker 2>Can move forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Abby.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for your time today, and thanks

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<v Speaker 1>Metro State for publicizing this program.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's super cool. Not just for students.

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<v Speaker 1>We should say, if you go to Sunshine Home share

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<v Speaker 1>Colorad it's not just students, so there's lots of opportunity there.

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<v Speaker 1>I would urge you to check it out. Abby, Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much, for your time today.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. You have a good one all right.

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<v Speaker 3>That is Abby Kel from Metropolitan State University
