Speaker 1: I'll start to you to present off the Bench with
Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Bob Abert. Now
here's Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert.
Speaker 2: My MIC's off. We're live the hour.
Speaker 3: Sorry, how we are you?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Well yeah, your mic is definitely on.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's going on? Guys. It's a good thing it
wasn't on a little.
Speaker 3: Earlier, man, That's why I warned you. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm just kidding. Uh god, I am just really struggling
at the beginning of these hours today. I don't know
what is going on that was so unfunny as to
be not even evident that I was trying to make
a joke, like nothing about that even I should have.
Speaker 2: I apologize just the.
Speaker 4: Top earlier, when you were like, this is Alosh's best start,
You're like, even more interesting, it's the best SEC start.
Speaker 2: You're like, wait, that actually makes sense if you take.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, not a banner day for your boy.
I'm basically the human equivalent of the traffic that was
on it in this morning.
Speaker 2: No, no, coach, oh we got her, She's oh.
Speaker 3: Right, cool, of course, why why would I ever get
anything right off the first rip today? Coach Tarina, what's
going on? How are we doing this Thursday morning?
Speaker 5: We're doing great? How are you?
Speaker 3: Uh? You know if I'm just gonna answer that honestly,
not just it. It's a bit of a struggle bus morning,
you know, one of those mornings where you're playing catch
up the entire time. Everything's all scattered all over the place.
Speaker 5: But you know, like every day, every day parenting and
working a job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, exactly right. But it is a scale.
It is a scale. There are some days where you
feel like, Okay, I've got a pretty good handle.
Speaker 3: On this thing, and then this is just one of
those days where you realize you're just hurtling through the
universe on a little rock, trying to survive.
Speaker 5: You know, dude, Yeah, I think I have more of
those days than the other. So I've like grown accustomed
to it.
Speaker 3: You know. Well, I cannot imagine heading up a program
like LSU Softball while also having very young kids. It's
hard enough doing this job, and this job does not
compare at all to that job. So very impressive how
you managed to live in both worlds, for sure, before
we get into doing it. Hell yeah, hell yeah, shout
out Nick Nicks the man. How about before you get
into softball? How does the teal walk? And how was
everything last weekend?
Speaker 5: Did you hear it with in Tiger Stadium? How cool
is that?
Speaker 2: That's awesome? That is incredible until windbar as well.
Speaker 5: I know, isn't that cool too? But thanks to LSU
for helping us out in the weather. And yeah, understanding
the importance of the day. That was awesome. It was awesome.
And Tiger Stadium was nice. Change a venue, you know, Yeah,
not too shabby.
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As far as the weekend, coach, it's it's a bit
of a weird weekend. It does seem like weather played
a big part. I mean, just locked in dominant on Friday,
then Saturday awful weather pushes everything back to Sunday. And
I know after the game you talked about it just
felt like a bit of a weird day, like you
just felt like your team didn't have it Sunday.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys would like the media asked me you know,
aren't you glad that you did this now? And you
know your team's a little learn from this, and I
thought I could get out was no losing suck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 5: Happy about it. It was really I think just talk
it up to a bad day and that happened throughout
the course of a you know, fifty six game season. Unfortunately,
we had two SEC games on this bad day. I
think a lot of factors played into it a lot,
you know, I think the way we beat them on
Friday night, I think our team probably had high expectations,
and when it didn't go as planned, it's you know,
it was tough to bounce back from it, and then
we started pressing, and I think there's probably a lot
of factors. This team is still young and new and learning,
and and you know, we were unfortunately on the wrong
end of that one on Sunday.
Speaker 6: Yeah, That's actually where I was going to start, was,
you know, having a younger team and having maybe some
players that haven't really been through something like that, and
you know, dropping a couple of tough games, certainly the
first game, and you come back and you score in
the bottom of the seventh and then you lose it
in eight innings, but still like going through that and
things and less that you can learn from that. And
again team bounces back nicely twelve to two in the
midweek there. But like we're some of the older players
maybe having those conversations like, hey, like you just said,
coach this, there's a bad day. Bad days happen. Ours
just happened on a day where we have multiple games.
We got to, you know, find a way to get
back on track because nobody in the SEC is going
to feel sorry for you, That's for sure.
Speaker 5: That's for sure. Yeah, I think you said it really well.
I think, you know, some of the older players are
trying to help them. I mean, we really haven't been
in a lot of type ball games, Like I think
that was our first ex running game all year. You know,
this team has just been really dominant, So I think
there is some Although I told the reporter of that
losing sucks, I do think there is some not value
in the losing, but value in being in those games
and like understanding like when you start depressed, how to
still stick with your process, how to still uphold our standards,
go with the plan, Like there's you know, a mental
side to that. Too, that maybe they haven't been tested
enough in that they're going to be tested here in
the next few weeks without a doubt.
Speaker 3: Well, and and and so with all that in mind,
and yeah, look, they're gonna be coexistent truths, right, Like
losing can suck, but you get you also just can't
be like, oh, well, I guess there's nothing to be
learned here, Like no, like you have to you have
to take advantage or you have to try to make
the best of a sucky situation.
Speaker 2: And I feel like your team did.
Speaker 3: That kind of resetting in the midweek coming out. Yeah,
they're taking care of business against McNeice. I know the
score reflects that, but like in terms of the vibe
of the team, did you feel that, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean a little slow start there again too at McNeice,
but I think once they got going able to you know,
find their confidence again and then a really strong practice
yesterday I thought, and it was up here, you know,
hitting balls with my kid, and there were people players
in this facility until I don't know what time last night,
just on their own working, hitting, trying to get back
and they're committed to the success of this program without
a doubt.
Speaker 2: So winners Tuesday twelve to two.
Speaker 3: And now you got Alabama coming to town Tiger Park,
their top twenty five matchup because it is the SEC
and everyone's a top twenty five matchup. What does the
scouting report say about the Crimson Tide Traditionally one of
you know, the the the top programs in the entire
country year and in year out.
Speaker 5: They are and they continue to be. You know, they're
always just well prepared and well coached, as every team
in the league is. All these coaches are incredibly talented
and they're they're having a year where they're capable of
eating anyone. They've played well. They haven't played well, They've
you know, been a little bit of an up and
down type team, but they just want a series against
Georgia last weekend, so they've definitely played well lately. As
always love or handsful for them, and.
Speaker 6: Coach, I know you and I know you always want
to win and this is going to be the most
important thing and you don't really want to look into
the future. But knowing that this one's played at Tiger Park,
and then the next two SEC series are in the
State of Texas against A and M and Texas, so
not looking forward to the opponent, but just being on
the road. Does that make this series feel even more
important that it is going to be your last one
at home for what's going to feel like a month.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think, especially as the coaching staff, we understand the
importance of this one. Just it doesn't get any easier
from here on out. You know, going to face what
number number five, number one, No two in the next
three weeks after this, you know, I think we have
three top five opponents after this one, and this is
still a top twenty five, top fifteen team this weekend.
So I think just knowing that we are at home
and it doesn't get any easier, I think there's an
incredible amount of importance in this weekend. And then next
week you're gonna ask me this question and be like,
oh my gosh, this is the most important series we've
played all year and then but it is a big
one for sure, And I'm tenured enough here at LSU
now that I understand that to be a successful LSU
coach you have to beat Alabama.
Speaker 3: That's interesting, exactly, yes, yes, well, and and look, you know,
less people forget this is an LSU team currently second
in the SEC with a three eight one team batting average,
second in the SEC with a one nine to nine
team ERA.
Speaker 2: And what I love.
Speaker 3: About that is both of those stats are kind of
reflected in a couple of your upperclassmen leaders and Danaka
Coffee and Sydney Burzon are are what has their leadership
meant and what will it continue to mean down the
stretch here? As you know, the stakes increase every single week.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the two of them are so different. It's cool
to see those two as the leaders. You know, I
think Sydney is just calculated and well thought out and
you know, analytical, and then Danica is a little more
spontaneous and in your face. And I think the two
of them combined to be a really nice leadership package
for this group. It's fun to see him do it well.
Speaker 3: Coach is going to be a fantastic weekend at Tiger Park. Guys,
get out there to the burm, have some fun. Thank
you so much for making time with us here on
this Thursday, and you have a fantastic day.
Speaker 2: Go kick some out.
Speaker 5: Thank you. I appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Coach Betterina again. Guys, go teal dot com if
you want to give at any time to a great
cause and shout out to coach Erena and this softball
team looking to bounce back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is Alabama team.
Speaker 3: You know generally what Jake, you know better than I do,
But I mean generally Alabama is like one two national champion.
Good twenty seven and thirteen this year, so, as coach said,
a bit of an up and down year. But as
you learned on Sunday, the second you start thinking or
getting comfortable in this league, you can get immediately sniped.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it.
Speaker 6: They're typically a top ten softball team and still even
you know, with their air quotes struggling, they're still sixteenth
in the RPI in the nation, right, So yes, they're
twenty five and thirteen. They've played a very difficult schedule.
They have struggled on the road certainly compared to what
they've been at home. So that's why we, you know,
talk about taking full of advantage of it because it
doesn't get easier. You've got Florida coming up, number one
team in the RPI. You've got Texas coming up, number
five team in the RPI, right, so you understand what
is going to be in front of you on the
road against Texas, against Texa and m you get Florida
at home, which is obviously a benefit for you, but
it is going to be tough down the stretch. Now
you're sitting at number four in the RPI, so you're
in a great position.
Speaker 2: You're in a prime position to be a host there.
Speaker 6: But you're twenty four and two at home, and so
you have to take advantage of this Alabama team.
Speaker 2: Are they good? Yes?
Speaker 6: Did they just beat George enni series? Yes, But you
are the better softball team bare minimum.
Speaker 3: It just is what it is. You got to at
least win two games. That's interesting. I didn't realize. So
those are their first home losses of the year last weekend. Yeah,
so you've been perfect all year long, and then, unfortunately,
like you said, on a day where maybe you just.
Speaker 2: Don't have it, you end up with a doubleheader. That's tough.
But again you know why because.
Speaker 6: Before then they lost to cal State out in Cali,
and then they.
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Speaker 2: That's why we fall down, Pruce. That's why.
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parents have also died, go ahead and have him live
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as well, and consistently put him in situations where people
are shooting at him. That's why we fall down, Bruce.
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Speaker 1: Back to sports talk, maybe off the bench?
Speaker 3: Oh to be Paul Schimes and Libby Dune. Just so young,
so beautiful, so successful. See schemes last night when he
ended up with seven innings nowhere and runs six k's,
no walks, just perfect.
Speaker 5: He's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Want to know now?
Speaker 3: Because the Pirates actually didn't.
Speaker 2: Blow it right? No they won, Yeah they won't. That's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: They're so young and beautiful. It makes me feel increasingly old,
like it makes my knees hurt looking at their GQ pictures.
They have like a prince and princess monarchal sort of
feel to them. And you know what I was thinking about,
Jake looking at the pictures. You know, it's a bad feeling.
And I don't think you would feel this way, but
I'm being honest, I think I would. But a bad
feeling is when you would interact with someone who's like
a dozen years younger than you, and you would feel
like you're intimidated. Like if I was hanging out with
Paul Skeins or talking to Paul Skeins and Levey Done,
I would feel a little starstruck. I would feel intimidated.
I would feel less than and that that is a
bad feeling.
Speaker 7: Paul Skeens is the first picture to post a sub
to era with one hundred and seventy five plus strikeouts
over their first twenty five MLB appearances.
Speaker 2: God, I no, I saw That's not last night.
Speaker 7: I was like, that's insane, that's unreal. I continue to
play for the Pirates and have a sub to Eer's crazy.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, true. I continue to to just be amazed
at his delivery.
Speaker 2: So something that my.
Speaker 3: Algorithm's been feeding me, and it's a great way to
enjoy baseball. Baseball's very I think shorts friendly.
Speaker 2: There's all yeah.
Speaker 3: I've pitching in is great, but there's like baseball doesn't exist.
There's but there's just like a million things that highlight
the absurdity of baseball in some cases, like craziest deliveries,
crazy stances, like wildest moments, and it all plays very well.
But I'll be damned if I'm not head over heels
in love with Schemes delivery. It is so freaking smooth
and how it builds up. It's like Indiana Jones whip,
just so smooth and it builds up to the crack
when he releases, and it's just this thing of beauty.
Speaker 2: It's a thing of beauty.
Speaker 6: Well last night, I mean you mentioned it. Stat's there,
seven inches, pitch, doesn't give up an earned run, strikes
out six, and it's like, okay, because of how good
he's been, Like that's a great stat line. Yeah, like
any starter, that's a obviously a quality start.
Speaker 3: Especially nowadays. Seven ins a long time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they would be thrilled with that, but he's
been so dominant it's like, oh, okay, okay, night, all right.
Speaker 3: I feel like two because his delivery is so smooth
and whippy.
Speaker 2: And loose.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's not that bad. I'm not, you know,
I don't. I'm talking out of my ass, but I
feel like it doesn't seem like it's putting like undue
stress on his body. As much as you can managed
throwing a baseball that hard that many.
Speaker 7: Times, He's just so strong that it just doesn't bother him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you mean, not all pictures are created equal to Bob,
and pitchcount shouldn't.
Speaker 2: Be as strict.
Speaker 3: I just I don't believe it.
Speaker 2: I don't believe it. I don't. It's weird.
Speaker 3: I love that you have passion for every sports conversation
that has ever existed.
Speaker 4: I just I don't like how like pitch counter is
so blanketed across the board.
Speaker 2: Everybody's different. Yeah, you're not wrong, wrong.
Speaker 7: I know Ryan used to throw like a million pigs.
Speaker 3: Exactly like okay, but he is an outlier. But to
All's point, you're gonna have outliers. But like I guess,
the question is do you risk that your guys in
outline You.
Speaker 4: Always talk about schemes and like, oh, he's got the
strong lower body.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he uses his whole body.
Speaker 4: It's not taxing on his arm. As much like if
I'm out there throwing all arm, even if I'm equally
as talented as Skins, I'm throwing all arm, I'm going
about half the distance. Yeah, there's a lot more taxing
on me. Like pitch counter not the same, But everybody
just treats him like they are, like, he's throwing ninety pitches,
you gotta get him out of the game.
Speaker 7: Well, we put pitch counts into play, and now everybody's
getting Tommy John surgery.
Speaker 3: So yeah, well, is that just because everybody's throwing way harder?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 4: I think it's because you're you're giving them pitch counts
too young and they don't have the stamina to go
the distance.
Speaker 3: Like the.
Speaker 4: Think about training for something like if I'm training for
a marathon, but I stop at three miles every time,
you're never gonna I'm out.
Speaker 3: But but but build up to is that? But on
the in the same token, is it also bad to
just wear out a kid's are like, just just get
after it and have him throw like two hundred pitches.
Speaker 7: Do you think that the amount of games that kids
play nowadays is ridiculous?
Speaker 3: That's part of the problem too.
Speaker 7: It's if you're playing five games in one day. Yeah,
you're gonna have issues. I think it's more of like
how many games these kids are playing on their travel
ball teams.
Speaker 3: I mean, Jake, you're getting to uh, you're getting to
that age where they're gonna start to be kids are
going to start to be throwing if they're not already.
Speaker 2: I mean, he plays you know, kid pitch for sure. Uh.
It is a lot. It is a ton.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know you can play now this person is
not pitching the entire time.
Speaker 2: But you can play six games in a weekend easy?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean if you make it to the championship, so
you got your pool play on Saturday, You've got your tournament,
you know, bracket on Sunday. Yeah, you can play six games.
It's like how much is that kid pitching? But not
just pitching, it's also like how much.
Speaker 2: Are you warming up? Like what are you doing in
your bullpen?
Speaker 6: And the pitcher's probably playing and at that level shortstop too.
How many potouts does he have a short stop where
he's throwing at full board across the diamond.
Speaker 2: So I mean, no, it's a lot.
Speaker 7: That is the other thing about Paul though, Like to
your point, is he has a crazy good warm up
and he's very cognizant of stuff like that.
Speaker 3: He really him. Yeah, yeah, I mean yes, he is
an obsessive worker. That's probably something that I think it's
lost maybe a bit. Is. Yes, he has a great
natural body, great natural talent, but hard work beat talent
town doesn't work hard. Paul's that rare, uber talented guy
who also outworks everyone. Actually, Trey Morgan, they had a
great on the broadcast and the Race Pirates broadcast, they
had a great breakdown of that, I think from the
Ray's side, because Trey being one of their top prospects
right now. Yeah, where Trade Morgan was. Somehow nobody works
harder than Paul skiing stats.
Speaker 2: I believe it.
Speaker 7: They're working out together in Baton Rouge this summer.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Look, he's got his own routine as well. And you
know everybody thinks, well, this person said this is the
right routine, and that person, well, now you can't do
that when you warm up. It's like no, it's about
how do you get yourself ready? What helps you get ready?
Like my routine was going to be different than T Bops.
T Bob's going to be different than.
Speaker 2: Will Blackwell, whatever it is, like, we all were gonna
have a different routine.
Speaker 6: I say it all the time. Philip Rivers would come out.
He'd give two arm circles, get a football thrown to him,
throw it and say all right, let's go. And that
was him. He was ready to go. Peytons thirty five
minutes to stretching.
Speaker 2: You're ready to go.
Speaker 6: Heck, I've played over forty or over thirty co ed
soccer with Gordy Rush, where he's taken forty five minutes
to get warmed back. Look to run for ten minutes
on the soccer pitch.
Speaker 2: That's smart.
Speaker 3: If you're gonna do ancient athletes, you better have your
ass warm it.
Speaker 2: Out and Gordy can run.
Speaker 3: Gordy's fast because we got to minimize injury risk here.
Speaker 6: And I don't know, you can go to Austioner facility
at Elite Training Academy if you get hurt doing ancient athlete.
Speaker 3: So I don't think that I well, I mean, I
don't know, so look shout out. I was there yesterday.
I had a great It's been the end of a
long process. Got my mur ale that others are stuff.
Yesterday I got my physical therapy, playing and it's all
it's it's I'm really excited. I think I'm finally gonna
get back to UH at least mitigating the damage of
having a shoulder that's just completely wrecked.
Speaker 2: It's just dust.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just bone on bone grinding.
Speaker 2: And you know I love grinding.
Speaker 6: I know you do docking and grinding.
Speaker 3: Docking and grinding, Well, I don't love docking. I describe
grinding as docum. But if we're talking about just docking,
that is something else that that's different. Do you know
what documents I'm gonna explain it to you in the UH,
in the commercial brains, so.
Speaker 2: I google it. No, no, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 3: All right, when we get back, let's talk to coach
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Speaker 1: Well, sports talk meets pure chaos off the bench with
Hester and t Bob.
Speaker 3: What's happening y'all? Welcome back and we are so lucky.
It is game day in Norman, and yet here we
are joined by the man himself, LSU baseball head coach
coach Jay Johnson.
Speaker 2: Coach. What's going on?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: How are you doing today?
Speaker 8: And how are you guys?
Speaker 2: We're doing well? Have you caught up on sleep?
Speaker 3: I was, I was flabbergasted over the weekend, coach where
Saturday night flu's been just running through my family, absolutely awful.
So I'm up all night with the kids. Everybody's coughing,
throwing up, crying whatever. It's about three am. I'm dealing
with that. I'm like, oh, I need to check the
score of the game. And I think it was a
post from like thirty minutes before that that the game
had just ended. Is that the latest game you've ever
played in?
Speaker 2: I think so?
Speaker 8: Yeah? And I gotta be honest, I don't know how
many wins after midnight I had before coming to LSU.
So we had a a SEC tournament won the first year,
a Super Regional one the second year, and then to
this weekend. So maybe we just start all our games
at nine to thirty pm from now on.
Speaker 6: Coach have to ask you, I mean, when you take
this job, you have been at places where like it
literally never rained, it just didn't happen. And I lived
in some of those places with you. I know it
didn't rain. And now you come to a place where
like every day, yeah, you probably can get like a
slight shower, Like have you even gotten used to that yet?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I think we've been good at picking the windows. Yeah,
sometimes they just happened at two am. You know it's no,
not ironically, it's raining here right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, awesome.
Speaker 3: So series beginning tonight six pm, LSU, Oklahoma. But like
we always kind of do before we look forward, uh,
let's look back to last weekend, coach, and I felt
like this was just a massive character building series for
this team, right to have the Game one, they try
to pitch off, and then you kind of end up
in the worst case scenario, right where all of a
sudden you're in a hole and they're pitching off and
you can already in game one feel the pressure of
the series building up, your team find the way to
come back and win. Then hines and steps up. Game
two goes toe to toe with the ace. What did
you learn about your team in that sweep last weekend?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think we just tried to take a lot
of pride in winning any type of game that we can.
And as you mentioned in the first one, it was
of comeback nature. Second one, Pitcher's dual, you know, third one,
I guess we'll call it a slugfest. So it kind
of fit that model, you know, relative to all the
other stuff like who's pitch and where and what like,
I honestly think our guys are just kind of immune
to that because it's it's about execution and I think
that's a good thing, and that's why I bring that up.
And they just they just kind of kept playing, and
we got ourselves in position on Friday, excuse me, Thursday
and Friday to get our best pictures in the game
with the lead, and that's where you like to be
and we were able to do that. And you know,
super impressive performance by the offense in Game three.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it was in coaching in game one
to go back there, the hom of the fifth inning.
I mean, you've got a true freshman that gets that
thing started by, you know, having a good at bat
and drawing a walk. And then you've got Barry Jones
who doesn't chase and he gets a walk, and then
Dickinson obviously hits the home run, but it was the walks.
It was being patient at the plate that led to
the home run. And then of course, you know Milam
Homer's to take the lead, but just to have that
at the top of your lineup from a true freshman,
then your power hitter also a great at bat doesn't
try to press too much. I know, more than anything,
you have to appreciate the way that that those runs
came in the fifth inning.
Speaker 8: No doubt. And you know we've been an excellent first
inning team this year. And you don't have to look
past the personnel. You know, is why is that's happening?
You know, Derek is running a great at bat. It's
either a walk or it's an eight, nine to ten
pitch at bat, and the pictures looking up and go, okay, great,
Now Jared Jones is coming out. You know he can
hit it to the moon and he takes good at bats.
And then you know Danny's just he's gonna take a
good at bat no matter what. To us on or
there's guys on base, and he's a really balanced attack guy.
So those guys have done a great job and then
the guys right behind him just do a really good
job of spilling the game down with runners on base.
And its been a good recipe for us so far.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I know, coach said everything. When it
comes to you and your expertise, it's just all about
quality at bets, every single pitch, making them work, staying
in the moment and top to bottom. I don't think
I've seen a team with you at LSU that's done
this so consistently. I mean, number three in the country
right now, bad and average number three in the country
and on base percentage and kind of shockingly one of
the guys Lady in the way he's.
Speaker 2: A freshman and Curiel.
Speaker 3: I know he was very highly regarded coming out, But
has this level of success even taken you by a
surprise A bit?
Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe a little bit, just because you know, the
jump to what we're doing is pretty significant. I will
say that, you know, you know, recruiting Derek like he's
one of the most skilled young players I've ever seen
that's actually ended up in college like a lot of
guys go straight to the pros. I think just his
awareness of things, you know, who he is as a player,
what he needs to do to impact the game and
winning is very advanced, and so he can he can
come into an environment like this and just be himself.
And he's got a great knack for, you know, making
adjustments quickly, and I think that's why you see the consistency.
Speaker 2: He absolutely does. It's been a lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 6: But coach, I feel like we don't talk enough about
another freshman for being a freshman in the situations that
you've put him in and he's thrived and that's case
and Evans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of people like it.
Speaker 6: And maybe if you're not dialed in, you would be like, oh, well,
he's been here for a while, he came from somewhere else,
Like no, this is a freshman.
Speaker 2: And between him and he.
Speaker 8: Certainly acts and he's certainly acts and pitches pitches like yeah,
and we're certainly sorry house keeping his button in on
me kind of early here. He pitches like that very
similarly to Derek because he knows who he is. He's
got a ton of talent, the competitive character, the pitchability,
and you know, not surprised at all, Like I mean,
it was one of those you know, I mentioned this
probably with you guys before, like when when Paul Schemes
committed he like you knew it was important. Now this
is as a kid as a junior in high school.
But had a similar type of feeling like I actually
kind of a funny story called me on a Thursday
and said, Hey, I want to come out for a
second visit, And I was like, holy cow, maybe he's
gonna pull the trigger on this and commit while he's there.
And I was actually supposed to go to California for
one of my friend's wedding fly out on Saturday or
excuse me, flo out on Friday to be there Saturday.
So I just called him up and said, hey, man,
we're not coming. I got this, dude, I gotta get
closed out and just whatever. The most expensive thing on
your registry is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, I love that.
Speaker 6: I love the commitments, certainly, but I mean coaching these
Friday Saturday games and it's Case and Evans and Zach Cowen,
they're out of the bullpen. I mean, what a luxury
to have your starters get the ball to them, obviously
with an opportunity to win, but I mean to have
these guys close the door on the game. I mean,
can you remember having something like that, having multiple guys
that have been so good in.
Speaker 2: That role in your career?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 8: No, I mean your better teams, you usually have two
relievers you can go to. Though you know, over the
course of a three game weekend, and especially in the SEC,
you're going to get a game where you have to
go to one of those guys. It's probably going to
take them out of availability for the other two right
and just with the offenses. So it's a huge factor
to be able to do that. You know, Kotcheski and
I were talking earlier, you usually have a good team
when you see a team with guys with multiple saves,
and that's what we have here. And now I give
wins too, and it's allowing it. What I like about
it is it's allowing some of the rest of those
guys to come on at their own pace. And again,
everybody's kind of got to remember, even sitting here at
twenty seven and three, you forget like Kate Anderson is
the only pitcher that's pitched this year that threw one
sec inning last year at LSU. So I like what
those guys are doing so far.
Speaker 2: That's I was not. I did not.
Speaker 3: I was not aware of that, or at least I hadn't.
Like maybe I was aware, but I never quite framed
it up like that. That is that is wild talking
to coach Jay Johnson else you had baseball coach so earlier.
Speaker 2: Coach, you know, we're doing our little Oklahoma Scout report.
Speaker 3: We're looking at where they ranked statistically and everything, and
there is one thing Jake pointed out that just absolutely
jumps off the page. And obviously it's the stolen bases, right.
This team wants to run and y'all have not faced
a lot of that this year through three sec series.
How do you prepare for an element of the game
like that that is just going to be Well, they're
gonna try to do it at a level that you
just haven't seen yet this season.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the first thing is you get the leadoff man out,
like that's everything. It's like in your guys's terms, like
you know, they're in second and nine and third and
eight all the time, you know, and that's how you
do that first. But when guys get on base, which
they will, you know, it's a good offensive team, you know.
And koch Evsky is really good at you know, calling picks,
getting pitchers to hold the ball, be quick to the plate.
You know, we're pretty efficient in that regard. And you know,
the thing with stolen bases is like if you can
limit the attempts, and you do that by getting the
leadoff guy out and then just being good with those
types of things, which we're that's the strength of our staff,
I would say, And we're gonna have to be good
at it this weekend because you don't want to give
them free bases because they do have a good pitching
staff also, and you know, you never know the weather
with these things and playing on the road, so we
have to just playing in close games. So we're gonna
have to do a good job of that.
Speaker 6: Coach, you're taking your team to a new ballpark there
in Norman, Oklahoma. And Coach Staban used to always take us,
like if we went somewhere, he would take us to
the stadium as soon as we got to town. And
I remember like, hey, coach, this is fifty three and
three yards wide. It's one hundred yards long. Like he's like, yeah,
but I want you to see this stadium. So when
we get in here, it's not a surprise. You can
see kind of how the seats are and what the
end zones look like all of that. But baseball is
different because every stadium is going to be a little
bit different. Is that something like you do in baseball,
Like do you say, hey, here's how this is going
to play. This wall's here, this foul line's here. Do
you go over that when you go somewhere new Oh.
Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure. And we have a pretty good what's
Wednesday this week? But Thursday practice script while we're on
the road, to cover some things to make sure we're
as familiar as we possibly can be. Again, another turf
field this week. This is much different than Texas's turf though.
It's really fast and so the ball, the infielders you
really have to play low and you can't get caught,
you know, being surprised on a ball getting on you.
It's almost not concrete the wrong word, but it's it's
going to play fast. There's not a lot of foults.
There's not a lot of foul territory. It's not a
huge stadium.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 8: The wind, you know, is going to play a factor,
but yeah, we we really try to hammer that down.
And it's kind of like the you know, obviously not
comparing this to any kind of war or anything like that,
but it's like you want to lay your battle plan. Yeah,
wreck wreck the area and then get on the plane
and move on, you know, so turn field.
Speaker 2: This is the sec anyway.
Speaker 3: Anyway, a Ladra coach, if you'll indulge us, a Ladra
has a bit of a fun question for you here
on the way.
Speaker 7: Out, Hey, coach, okay. Well, first of all, as somebody
who does like the production for the baseball games, I'm
begging you to not play at nine thirty anymore. But
my question is, okay, so doing this for our website
masters coming up next week? What would be your master's
meal if you could plan one? Scotti Scheffler to give
you a little idea, He's he's got wood fired cowboy
Rabbi family style macaroni and cheese and chipotle lime roasted
sweet potatoes. Sound just to give you a little idea,
what would be your master's meal?
Speaker 8: I'm going with Scottie. I guess loaded baked potato, you know,
vanilla ice cream with chocolate syrup to finish it off.
Speaker 2: Hell ya, that's.
Speaker 3: America right there, guys. Coach Jay Johnson, else you had
baseball coach? Thank you so much, man, and best of
luck tonight. I can't wait, all right, sir, Coaching Johnson.
What a legend, What a legend?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: I've never a man is so sincere in his answers
and his time.
Speaker 2: That he gives.
Speaker 6: This man missed his friend's wedding for recruiting, which I love,
love that, and you should.
Speaker 2: Be excited that he's your head baseball coach.
Speaker 3: And he did it for a guy that now has
a sub one ere five saves on the year.
Speaker 6: So, dude, Worth, I should have known that he certainly
covers because Coach Saved used to always bring us into
it and I remember the swamp. He's like, hey, these
look the stadium. See how that those seats go straight up. Hey,
here's where the students are going to be. It's going
to be loud, they're gonna get on your nerves. They're
going to say things about your mom. Right like all that,
I was like, it's just like the same football for
now being older, Like I absolutely realized why he did it.
Speaker 2: But baseball is.
Speaker 6: Different because, like you said, that turf is going to
play different than Texas turf and this it's gonna be
a little bit faster, it's not going to be a stick.
It doesn't have a stick of a pad. Every turf
is a little bit different. And by the way, turf
is bush league in baseball. What do we do and
I mean certainly in places where you can grow grass and.
Speaker 2: All got money? Right, come on now, Texas, Oklahoma. You
always talking about all that of oil money. Make it
happen but of course he's got it all covered like well.
Speaker 3: That was one of the interesting quirks of the Jaden
Daniels VR storyline that I found to be a bit
intriguing is that he talked about one of the advantages
of it was they would to have the opponent stadium
in the virtue and they weren't just on some sort
of like anti pragfield, so you could see, Okay, here's
where the play clock is, so here's where this is.
So like he already knew the layout where to look
for his landmarks, uh when he would enter, which is
pretty cool. Shout out coach che Johnson. All right, when
we get back, let's go ahead and wrap up our
two of OTB off the bench. Oh, we just scored
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Speaker 6: Like you, Bob said, if you're popping one open tonight
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Speaker 2: Uh, what's going on, y'all?
Speaker 3: Welcome back man Sacramento States implying to become an FBS independent.
Now we've actually talked Sex State on this h on
this program before because the only reason why they're relevant
is they have seen opportunity in the nil age and
they have extreme amounts of money. I gotta dig it
through my notes because it was a couple of months ago.
Last time we mentioned them. I can't remember why they
have so much money, Jake, but but they do. But
they do, and they've got a ton of people committed
to it, and they want to start running with the
big dogs. And so their path to doing so, they believe,
is to go independent, schedule up, and then eventually, uh,
play somebody tough to Eventually I get invited to a
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Speaker 2: Is that still the SCS?
Speaker 3: What's crazy about this is though the investment comes kind
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I mean, they were three and nine last year, one
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They're saying effort, We're gonna spend and we're gonna win eventually.
Speaker 2: They're good. When when Troy Taylor was there, yeah that's true.
He needs Yeah he does.
Speaker 6: But their athletic department has a surplus and I don't
remember what it was either they I guess they've got
some really good alumni.
Speaker 2: You know who their basketball coaches? They just hired him, No,
Mike Bibbie.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, Yeah, that's right. He was
on Uh he was on with Rome the other day.
Was he talking about the new hire?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it looks like sex State has raised over thirty
five million dollars closing in on fifty million in their
nil group. H the sack twelve. I guess they're trying
to grow pack. So for all Taylor, you put this
in here. So what's so interesting about.
Speaker 2: It to you?
Speaker 4: No, just like when a team tries to jump up
in competition, I mean we've seen it a lot recently, right,
I mean there's a lot of teams that have that
have done it and have had a little bit of success.
I mean, app State was dominated at the lower level,
they jumped up, and I mean there's still a really
good program. I'll be interested to see what Sacramento State does.
They've been a good basketball program for quite a while now.
I mean they've they've they've had some runs on that level.
Speaker 6: It'll be interested to see jame U's done it in
Coastal Carolina. Yeah, there's been a lot certainly, really a
lot of it's been on the East coast. There hasn't
been a ton out west, and so this will kind
of be. I can't even think, I mean of one
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like kind of those that Carolina area certainly has had
a bunch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Liberty did it.
Speaker 4: I mean I mentioned app State, Like, yeah, I don't
think anybody else West.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all those right there on that coast for sure.
Speaker 6: But I know Eastern Washington's had some runs and they
kind of toyed with maybe going to the FBS level.
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