Speaker 1: Everybody wants to see a clear video of Bigfoot, and
Speaker 1: my guest, Logan is working on making that happen for everyone.
Speaker 1: Logan has developed and created an app and camera system
Speaker 1: called the Bigfoot live Stream, where cameras are deployed on
Speaker 1: people's property where Bigfoot activity has been taking place for years,
Speaker 1: and users can use the app to access the live
Speaker 1: stream video of those cameras twenty four to seven and
Speaker 1: look for events that take place on the property. As
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, this is the leading edge of
Speaker 1: technology whenever it comes to Bigfoot research. I talked to
Speaker 1: Logan about a year ago on episode one point sixty
Speaker 1: and I couldn't wait to have him back on to
Speaker 1: hear about the advancements that he's made with the camera system.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening on this episode of Bigfoot Crossroads. This
Speaker 1: is Bigfoot Crossroads. My name is Matt and i'd like
Speaker 1: to welcome back to Bigfoot Crossroads Logan. You might remember
Speaker 1: him from episode one sixty. It's actually been a little
Speaker 1: over a year since Logan was on the show talking
Speaker 1: about his app and camera system that he created and
Speaker 1: developed in hopes of capturing clear video and possibly audio
Speaker 1: of bigfoot logan. Thanks for joining me, man. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like I said, it's been a little over a year.
Speaker 1: Where are we at. What's new with the camera system
Speaker 1: and the App've.
Speaker 2: Been bently b I've been trying to put a lot
Speaker 2: of as much time and energy as I can into it.
Speaker 2: So I think when we chatted, I'm at two different
Speaker 2: locations the kind of the the lighthouse flagship up a
Speaker 2: medium BC and then a system in Pennsylvania. I believe,
Speaker 2: I believe that's correct, So I've expanded upon that. I
Speaker 2: think I've added more into the Pennsylvania site for one,
Speaker 2: but of us so, I have a site closer to
Speaker 2: home in Texas about two three hour drive from where
Speaker 2: I live, more of a surprisingly it's more central Texas
Speaker 2: than Eastern Texas, believe that or not. And there's uh,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of good stuff coming out of that.
Speaker 2: That location has a lot of history and the other
Speaker 2: location I'm working with the one moment Survivorman On. I
Speaker 2: went up in the first of May and install the
Speaker 2: system on property up there with him and she. I
Speaker 2: might go back up there and do a little bit
Speaker 2: more work at his remote cabin where he had some
Speaker 2: experiences it was kind of weather issues when I went
Speaker 2: up there. But we do have a location where we
Speaker 2: set up some system. There's one live stream there and
Speaker 2: two on hold for one whenever he wants to put
Speaker 2: those up and going. I think that's kind of a
Speaker 2: in conjunction with his documentary Who's doing the Question the Bigfoot,
Speaker 2: which goes out at the end of the year. So
Speaker 2: so yeah, a lot of work other than make locations.
Speaker 3: Into April, I got done with a lot of app
Speaker 3: development and coding and architecture that I really wanted to
Speaker 3: incorporate into the app and really make it shiny and great.
Speaker 2: So the overall goal has to give people the opportunity
Speaker 2: to get as much data and events and everything that
Speaker 2: has to do with the filled research that we're doing
Speaker 2: and kind of make it open to them and let
Speaker 2: them explore everything. So I did. I probably put in
Speaker 2: about eighty thousand new lines of code into the app. Wow,
Speaker 2: and it's it is. I'll to say it's probably upgrade
Speaker 2: and architecture and like everything that's functional inside of it.
Speaker 2: So I just the key on a few things other
Speaker 2: than having right now there's thirteen different streams going on
Speaker 2: one of those locations. Other than that, I built in
Speaker 2: some really cool features to where I'm building as it's
Speaker 2: basically a model from Bigfoot, So it captures all the audio, video,
Speaker 2: thermal kind of sensors and tries to put that into
Speaker 2: buckets of activity. So it's got event detection where it
Speaker 2: records tensic and clips and that has a whole lot
Speaker 2: of mindset behind it where it collects all that data
Speaker 2: and puts it into different databases. And then I actually
Speaker 2: incorporated because I'm anion engineer and I work in this
Speaker 2: space a bit, so you can actually what I really
Speaker 2: wanted to do was have people talk to the data
Speaker 2: and do their own discovery. So I incorporated a daily
Speaker 2: LL into the app itself to where you can go
Speaker 2: and ask questions about top hits for last night on
Speaker 2: thermal or I many you know, sound events or not,
Speaker 2: tree knocks, eye shine. I have it at categorized in
Speaker 2: the events where it's trying to look for orbs, eye shine, knock, thounds, whoops, movements,
Speaker 2: thermal heat signatures, thermal events detection where it's changing temperatures,
Speaker 2: just like eight or ten different categories that have been
Speaker 2: to build a Bigfoot model in. But so you're gonna
Speaker 2: actually query all that data ten times a day inside
Speaker 2: the app, using some really pointed algorithm that looks at
Speaker 2: all the data sets that's collected every basically and I'm
Speaker 2: sorry to tell, will be quiet. I can talk about this.
Speaker 2: You're good, You're good. It looks at all the data
Speaker 2: basically five second intervals and records every single bit of it,
Speaker 2: and so all that is queriable, and I aggregate it
Speaker 2: and make it into another database, where one database is
Speaker 2: the queriable one for the end user and the other
Speaker 2: ones that I'm actual a huge data set that I'm
Speaker 2: building a model off of outside. So basically, the end
Speaker 2: user can look at the full day's video and two
Speaker 2: hour junks. They can look at all the events that
Speaker 2: happen all day long for each sidings location, and it
Speaker 2: categorizes it poorum and then on the on top of that,
Speaker 2: it's I'm built in a in human kind of in
Speaker 2: loop architectures where the users can actually make the algorithm better.
Speaker 2: So let's say if a categorized I'm not on something,
Speaker 2: but it was really something miscellaneous. I don't know, it
Speaker 2: could be anything, could be like a really large wind does. Right.
Speaker 2: If they say it was useful, they can tag it
Speaker 2: as useful and it will actually make the algorithm better.
Speaker 2: If they say it's not useful or indifferent, it goes
Speaker 2: out and tag the algorithm, and the algorithm does work
Speaker 2: on the back ends where it updates all the code
Speaker 2: and says this is a useful piece of detection, and
Speaker 2: it goes and auto implements an update or anyone that's
Speaker 2: actually using the system can make it better. Right, So
Speaker 2: I'm doing it too on the side, but I want
Speaker 2: to I'm one person, so like there's a huge amount
Speaker 2: of events, and I try to I put it into
Speaker 2: where people can basically look at everyone for the last
Speaker 2: two weeks. Right. I still had data for those events,
Speaker 2: and I keep it for months at a time. But like,
Speaker 2: as far as like feasibility and people being able to
Speaker 2: get all that data, it just makes more sense fiscally
Speaker 2: for me to just be two weeks at a time.
Speaker 2: Put it that way because there's a lot of I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of overheads all this, right, But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's totally re architect I even put something called Bigfoot
Speaker 2: analytics in it to where I mean analytics. I do
Speaker 2: analytics work in engineering as far as livability, so it
Speaker 2: tells you basically the top scores top everything. It gives
Speaker 2: you like a dashboard of events and top heat us.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a table of activities where it
Speaker 2: goes into daily and hourly and you can look at
Speaker 2: actual forecasting for like, hey there's more events at two
Speaker 2: am than anything, or you kind of look at the
Speaker 2: data like visually right, So also put that into the app.
Speaker 2: So it's honestly just been a ton of ton of
Speaker 2: work into development, and a ton of work into making
Speaker 2: things reliable, and a ton of work into the whole
Speaker 2: physical architecture of making sure the power systems for these
Speaker 2: remote places are as reliable as possible, and making sure
Speaker 2: the right camera equipment and making sure everything flowing, and
Speaker 2: in giving people everything that I can possibly think of
Speaker 2: that would be useful in trying to be part of
Speaker 2: the research. So there's a lot to it. So I'll
Speaker 2: be quiet for a second.
Speaker 1: So now that you've had these systems uh deployed for
Speaker 1: this amount of time, Uh, did you have any bugs
Speaker 1: or surprises pop up that you had to you know,
Speaker 1: kind of fix to move forward?
Speaker 2: You know, honestly, most of the bugs have to do
Speaker 2: with third party manufacturing of injurs it's me working around
Speaker 2: some of the camera firmware and hardware and its capabilities.
Speaker 2: So most of those buds are in that ibnew.
Speaker 4: So sometimes the weird things where the stream will cut
Speaker 4: off on its own, so I had to build the
Speaker 4: miniaturing systems that go an auto auto.
Speaker 2: Reboot things and go fix problems on their own. So
Speaker 2: so it's kind of like a self healing thing. But
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean, always something ran that I asked
Speaker 2: for feedback. If people find problems, let me know and
Speaker 2: you try to put it in the next release. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's labor of Love's a lot of work.
Speaker 1: This is kind of a two part question. What sets
Speaker 1: your camera system apart from the typical camera system, like
Speaker 1: let's say people putting game tracker cameras out there, or
Speaker 1: even high end game tracker cameras with thermal abilities, And
Speaker 1: why do you think those camera systems have essentially failed
Speaker 1: the Bigfoot world.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not saying they ken't capture good evidence, because
Speaker 2: it's possible they could. And I'd say the difference if
Speaker 2: you're going to do just like it differences Marnie and
Speaker 2: are fully remote, configurable, controllable, movable, and built to withstand
Speaker 2: the level things, and on the software level, I'm basically
Speaker 2: building the model of activity to where the cameras system
Speaker 2: in the future will be able to go off a
Speaker 2: model of detection, so that that would be the main
Speaker 2: difference other than I'm really specific on vendor and like
Speaker 2: functionality and capability and like I R being turned off
Speaker 2: and being able to do really good shutter and iris
Speaker 2: things on the configuration side, right, So a lot of
Speaker 2: the a lot of the let's you know, let's just uh,
Speaker 2: like Wise cameras, I don't know if you've heard of them.
Speaker 2: I think they're really good. And at the guy he
Speaker 2: uses Wise cameras, very good side came out that I use.
Speaker 2: I can't fully functionally use them because they're proprietary and
Speaker 2: they want you to use their product and they want
Speaker 2: you to use their cloud environment, and they don't have
Speaker 2: configurable endpoints and you can't get into the out of
Speaker 2: the camera settings, you can't go tweak, and you kind
Speaker 2: of have to jail break it in a sense to
Speaker 2: actually use it, and they'll update the firmware on it.
Speaker 2: It's where you won't be able to do that. So
Speaker 2: so I anyway, that's that's really the difference is I'm
Speaker 2: using them in a different spectrum and then and minor
Speaker 2: builts for oscard no cell signals. So some of the
Speaker 2: gamecubers use cell service, which would be great in some
Speaker 2: of my locations if I had cell service, but I don't,
Speaker 2: and that will get there any time sync. But I
Speaker 2: mean it's kind of designed around being able to real
Speaker 2: time go look at the camera from my end and
Speaker 2: go move it if I need to write and do it.
Speaker 2: And that's a matter of sense, right, So I mean
Speaker 2: similar like any any kind of camera if you capture data.
Speaker 2: I'm just kind of going off tangent and like making
Speaker 2: something purpose built dedicated to Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: I mean, whenever it comes to the software side of it,
Speaker 1: the app side of it, the model building, and the end.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing out there like this that's completely
Speaker 1: on a different level of anything I've ever heard before.
Speaker 1: That's almost similar to like doorbell ring camera technology stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it is. I mean, end of the day,
Speaker 2: it could. It'll be one a couple of years from now.
Speaker 2: It'll be on what I call like an edge ring camera,
Speaker 2: so where all the processing can be done at the
Speaker 2: camera side and not on the in the cloud. So
Speaker 2: once I speak the model to what it's looking for.
Speaker 2: That's kind of the that's kind of the space I
Speaker 2: wanted to land. So technically I could build a camera,
Speaker 2: have the software, and build a shell around it and
Speaker 2: give it to people. And if I wanted to, I
Speaker 2: could give it to people or sell it or whatever,
Speaker 2: and I could use that as a real bigfoot camera
Speaker 2: that's only looking for the spectrum of bigfoot and nothing
Speaker 2: else on the model based on all the data of
Speaker 2: collected on movements, sound, thermal audio, everything else. Right, So
Speaker 2: I mean that's that's the difference.
Speaker 1: So like a standalone package of what you're currently doing,
Speaker 1: but just for the individual use.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's just a different animal. And I have
Speaker 2: a I want people to be able to look at
Speaker 2: it all and not go, hey, I need to go
Speaker 2: put this pardon card into my PC and go scan
Speaker 2: all the data and look at it. I want it.
Speaker 2: I want it all published and as real time as
Speaker 2: it can be and available and shareable and all those things.
Speaker 1: That's always been the main problem with long term recording
Speaker 1: was going over the recording, right, because from early on
Speaker 1: you could have sort of like these analog camera systems
Speaker 1: set up running into say like a VCR, but then
Speaker 1: you have an entire eight hours of video to review
Speaker 1: and look for things and try to find you know,
Speaker 1: events yourself. And then with technology kind of progresses a
Speaker 1: little and with the motion detecting cameras and everything where
Speaker 1: they are triggered by an event before they start recording
Speaker 1: and everything. But then it's like, oh, oh, nope, that
Speaker 1: was a squirrel. Nope, that was a bird, and you
Speaker 1: couldn't give I mean, it's just crazy. Like You've built
Speaker 1: a system where people can give it feedback on the
Speaker 1: fly and it will improve itself so it can say, no,
Speaker 1: that's not a tree knock, that's just a car door slamming,
Speaker 1: and the model kind of like fixes itself and learns
Speaker 1: as it progresses and weeds those things out for people.
Speaker 2: Yep, there that was my angle. I wanted to have
Speaker 2: a system that's in intelligent but also have a feedback
Speaker 2: loop that the users can use and say this is
Speaker 2: some good data. Right. So yeah, not to keep my horn,
Speaker 2: but I am pretty proud of it.
Speaker 1: Tute it man, tute it. Look, I am your biggest fan.
Speaker 1: I think this camera system is revolutionary, pioneering, groundbreaking. More
Speaker 1: people need to learn about this if they're interested in
Speaker 1: bigfoot stuff. Especially there's so many people sitting on the
Speaker 1: internet consuming bigfoot content that could use this system from
Speaker 1: their own computers, from their phones, just by connecting to
Speaker 1: the app and going through the cameras, just watching the
Speaker 1: camera feeds, going through the evidence themselves. How many app
Speaker 1: users do you have right now?
Speaker 2: I don't know the hard number. I know accounts created,
Speaker 2: I think is the like eighty seven hundred, But as
Speaker 2: far as like real users, I'd have to look, it's
Speaker 2: nowhere near where I want it to be.
Speaker 1: Haws that Yeah, I mean the more eyes the better, right, yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I am getting tons and tons of reporting.
Speaker 2: I mean that's the other and I didn't I guess
Speaker 2: you would set aside from the norm is it has
Speaker 2: built in reporting into it, so you can look at
Speaker 2: the live streams and report. You can look at the
Speaker 2: full video footage and report or on the event detection
Speaker 2: if you actually find something in the event detection that's real, right,
Speaker 2: because it again everything needs eyes on it, like still
Speaker 2: we still need the human in the middle. Right, you
Speaker 2: report on that and say this is you know, a
Speaker 2: real report, So that that's just another it's another data
Speaker 2: set it's another database that I have, and I don't
Speaker 2: know what. I was working on some of the code
Speaker 2: yesterday to make that public. Can take out all the
Speaker 2: metadata for any kind of personal emails or people's names,
Speaker 2: right because you know, people are trolls and I don't want,
Speaker 2: oh for sure, people that are actually trying to do
Speaker 2: a good research to be bombarded. But so I was
Speaker 2: working on that. I think for the last six weeks,
Speaker 2: I've got a preeme earn fifty different reports that people
Speaker 2: have put in, So I need to make that public.
Speaker 2: So it's not just me looking at it and everyone
Speaker 2: can go, oh, get a sky reported this during this time,
Speaker 2: or this this person said this. I need to go
Speaker 2: cross check and see what they're saying. So it's it's
Speaker 2: kind of a peer review in a sense, right, like, hey,
Speaker 2: I think something happened here. So that functionality, isn't it
Speaker 2: as well?
Speaker 1: So can someone log into the app and instead of
Speaker 1: looking at the cameras or whatever, let's just say they
Speaker 1: want to go in and just I want to see
Speaker 1: all the good stuff. I want to see all the
Speaker 1: events and just kind of go through them like a database.
Speaker 2: Yep, they can. They can pick the camera they want
Speaker 2: to go through. They can pick the kind of event
Speaker 2: they want to look at. They can take the day
Speaker 2: they want to look at, and if they find an event, right,
Speaker 2: Let's say they find an event from yesterday at two
Speaker 2: am and it shows something that looks like it needs
Speaker 2: to be investigated further, right, because there are ten second clips,
Speaker 2: maybe something happened before or after. Right, they can click
Speaker 2: a button on there and it leads them directly to
Speaker 2: the two hours footage it came out of, and they
Speaker 2: click on that and then they can watch the entire
Speaker 2: two hour span from that event like it's directly integrated
Speaker 2: it and put into where it came from. And let's
Speaker 2: say it looks like something that was real, and they
Speaker 2: don't look at the full hour two hour footage and
Speaker 2: that thermal is really a deer, right, Right, So I'm
Speaker 2: trying to make it like a traceability span of events
Speaker 2: and where it's coming from and not just some subset
Speaker 2: of clips that may or may be something like they
Speaker 2: need the full footage, right, So yeah, that's all in there.
Speaker 2: But if they want to just look at the events,
Speaker 2: I think right now I'll get like two thousand events
Speaker 2: ready to be ga.
Speaker 1: That was kind of where My next question was going,
Speaker 1: let's say someone looks on an event and it's you know,
Speaker 1: list it as some crazy potential bigfoot vocalization and they
Speaker 1: check it out and they're like, oh no, that's just
Speaker 1: a fox. Is there a way for them to report that?
Speaker 2: We can? We could either put a report in or
Speaker 2: there's a button that says, you know, indifferent or not
Speaker 2: good or whatever, and then it'll have big algorithm with
Speaker 2: like in a sense that that particular nuance is not
Speaker 2: good data. Right now. That being said, it doesn't mean
Speaker 2: it's going to perfectly update the back end to like
Speaker 2: completely adhere to what they found, right. It's it's like
Speaker 2: a learning model of in a sense. Right, So nothing
Speaker 2: perfect right, right, but I also score it. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think of everything that I would want, right. So
Speaker 2: an event, let's say a tree knock, right, Because tree
Speaker 2: knocks are ambiguous a little bit. They could be a
Speaker 2: lot different things, and their audio is the hardest thing.
Speaker 2: The parse visual is actually a lot easier. Audio has
Speaker 2: so many different spectrums to it. So they could find
Speaker 2: this tree knock or event, right, and it may it
Speaker 2: may or may not be a tree knock. It just
Speaker 2: makes the system better.
Speaker 1: It's just like the thing that I'm thinking about is,
Speaker 1: especially whenever it comes to bigfoot stuff, everybody disagrees and
Speaker 1: everybody argues. I guess, how do you work around people
Speaker 1: going on the app and just debunking everything.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's fine, it's a problem. If it's really
Speaker 2: not real, then I don't know. I mean, I'm totally
Speaker 2: okay with that. But you know, it's if everyone has
Speaker 2: access to the same data and ninety percent of the
Speaker 2: people find it to be something valid, and I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: gotta go with them majority most of the time.
Speaker 1: But but it won't remove something from the system.
Speaker 2: No, no, it won't. I mean it's going to be
Speaker 2: there on the back end for a while, but like
Speaker 2: I said, it uh right now currently and I could
Speaker 2: up it possibly. It's just some of this stuff is
Speaker 2: like user base, right, it's like functionally, like my overhead is.
Speaker 2: I tried to make it where it's doable, but like
Speaker 2: I can't give you like holes of years worth of
Speaker 2: quarible footage right right, I'm not Netflix or Amazon, right,
Speaker 2: But but yeah, two weeks and then I keep it
Speaker 2: in pulled storage for a while just in case anyone
Speaker 2: or as I want to go look at something like
Speaker 2: having built in and requests format. But if anyone really
Speaker 2: wants so need to send them like an MP four
Speaker 2: of a two hour chunk, I can. I can do
Speaker 2: that in about five seconds, right they can instead of
Speaker 2: using the app that they want to use their PC
Speaker 2: and mcattle.
Speaker 1: And really give it some like some analysis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah they can. Everybody to me, everybody owns it.
Speaker 2: I don't care if people make clips out of it
Speaker 2: or big footage out of it. I mean, go nuts. Like,
Speaker 2: I just want someone to actually get good data. And
Speaker 2: then if somebody find some really good data, you know,
Speaker 2: at least report it to me and and so we
Speaker 2: can share it with the people that are really interested
Speaker 2: in that. But but you know, if they find something,
Speaker 2: hey there's a really awesome you know you actually see
Speaker 2: this in person kind of bigfoot, like all this name
Speaker 2: that after the person the founder, right or just to
Speaker 2: user found it. We'll call it Bobb's big foot, right.
Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't I feel people I kind
Speaker 2: of want to did that man where I do a
Speaker 2: lot of work in the shadows, and you know, I
Speaker 2: do a lot of work. I don't want to be
Speaker 2: in the spotlight.
Speaker 1: You got to use the cool voice though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, right, But I've found as far as
Speaker 2: just getting it out there to people and marketing and
Speaker 2: like letting people know it's there, it's almost impossible for
Speaker 2: me to be Batman.
Speaker 1: So kind of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's it's kind of a catch twenty two.
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm trying to make some videos now and
Speaker 2: put my face to it and do all that fun
Speaker 2: stuff that engineers don't really care for. But I'm okay
Speaker 2: with it. It's just a it is what it is.
Speaker 1: So how many cameras do you have deployed now?
Speaker 2: So I think fifteen, and then I have some side
Speaker 2: cameras on certain properties that are there just to capture
Speaker 2: more data from different angles that I can't really use.
Speaker 2: I'm published to the app, either because it's just the
Speaker 2: camera itself is to build for it, or the property
Speaker 2: owner doesn't want, you know, the front of their house
Speaker 2: displayed right like, there's still like a privacy thing there.
Speaker 2: So like the Pennsylvania side, I have me and another
Speaker 2: guy that's really interested in the subject. He has a
Speaker 2: couple of cameras there, and I have a couple of
Speaker 2: side cameras there just to capture some of the stuff
Speaker 2: that I want from the front of the homestead because
Speaker 2: a lot of the time still come around the front
Speaker 2: and make noise and bangs and stuff. But I you know,
Speaker 2: the property owner really doesn't want the location or you know,
Speaker 2: really where they're at or their names. So it's kind
Speaker 2: of it's really hard to make things public and not
Speaker 2: make things public at the same time. So that's kind
Speaker 2: of my work around is when I find stuff, I'll
Speaker 2: post it from there and make sure people have it.
Speaker 2: But I can't I can't but it into the app specifically,
Speaker 2: So it's probably like technically there's probably like twenty something.
Speaker 1: Are you actively looking still for properties to place cameras?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking for I'd like to have well some
Speaker 2: of it again depends on overhead, but at least two
Speaker 2: or three more for this year if I can swing it.
Speaker 2: It just depends on mm hmmm, what what we're doing,
Speaker 2: and the right property and the right person and then
Speaker 2: I don't know, I really I want to find the
Speaker 2: right location and the right people to work with because
Speaker 2: all that stuff matters, Like it's an you got to
Speaker 2: vet people out, you got to make sure they're on board,
Speaker 2: oh for sure, and do all those things. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it's definitely collaboration, and I'm still looking for
Speaker 2: good property that reset like GESSD like we were going
Speaker 2: to have reached out to stung groups, and there's a
Speaker 2: lot of people that really don't want to work with
Speaker 2: me because they want to they want this to be
Speaker 2: their discovery, and they you know, didn't to me. They
Speaker 2: don't really care about the discovery. They just want glory, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: which is fine ever to reach around, but I'm more
Speaker 2: of like open sources saying let's do it. Let's uh,
Speaker 2: let's let's make this real. But you know, it's disappointing
Speaker 2: that some people on negate you just either because you
Speaker 2: were not working round with the right people, or you know,
Speaker 2: there's ego or there's you know, like this is my
Speaker 2: thing and I don't want to share it with anyone, right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's so many different motive behind what people
Speaker 1: are doing, and I know that I've personally been kind
Speaker 1: of disappointed sometimes whenever I've gotten to know someone kind
Speaker 1: of figured out what they're really about. They don't always
Speaker 1: portray themselves in the most honest light, or at least
Speaker 1: that's my belief. But I've also met some great people
Speaker 1: like you who are willing to work with whoever and
Speaker 1: are just actually trying to work towards solving this mystery
Speaker 1: one way or another and figure it out. What is
Speaker 1: some of the actual stuff that your camera systems have
Speaker 1: captured so far?
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll give you some recent ones. So it takes us.
Speaker 2: I find at these high frequency locations the patterns emerged
Speaker 2: to where they all who kind of morph into the
Speaker 2: same thing, where it turns into a lot of data
Speaker 2: and a lot of interaction with just wrenches down everywhere,
Speaker 2: and that it is what it is. So they all
Speaker 2: so far, they're all like ingruent in since but like
Speaker 2: so Texas, Uh, probably the first we put something out there.
Speaker 2: I got this Purney gnarly. I haven't heard this at
Speaker 2: any of the other sites. Gattal yell and it it's
Speaker 2: clearly not human in my opinion, and I can I
Speaker 2: haven't made a video on it, but I can tell
Speaker 2: them the wave form that it doesn't look I've done
Speaker 2: some tests on it and it does not look like
Speaker 2: a human spectrum wave form and I sidebar it. What's
Speaker 2: something anyway, It's just really interesting. But that that site
Speaker 2: has had I mean, I could go into stories from
Speaker 2: that site, but like it's it's caught that and then
Speaker 2: even this morning and I I try to talk to
Speaker 2: the property owners a lot because they had weird interactions
Speaker 2: that I'm here or may not know about. So I
Speaker 2: caught this. I don't know what it is as some
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's an ORB or a UFO, right,
Speaker 2: so it just comes down the rabbit hole, but it's
Speaker 2: super clear, weird, like I've I've seen orbs, and I've
Speaker 2: caught some orbs from a couple of different places, but
Speaker 2: this one, it looks like a glowing ball just floating there.
Speaker 2: And it floats so it actually has a you can
Speaker 2: see the the shine from it. It's not like its
Speaker 2: own it's not you know, its own source of glow.
Speaker 2: It's like actually making a shine off of it. And
Speaker 2: it's floating through the air like slowly. And I was like,
Speaker 2: what the hell is this? Like I don't know, I
Speaker 2: explained this. Yeah, So it's things like that where I
Speaker 2: don't expect it to show up because technically that side
Speaker 2: is has a lot of background and as far as
Speaker 2: it's kind of been active in a sense for like
Speaker 2: fifty years, and the property owner is actually a archaeologist
Speaker 2: and a pay and then an anthropologist and actually went
Speaker 2: to school with Jet Mildrum, believe it or not. And yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's actually like almost a horse lam right. But
Speaker 2: it's like she said, like direct, like class a in
Speaker 2: your face with Bigfoot there multiple times, right, And I've
Speaker 2: seen the evidence and that I've seen which she's shown
Speaker 2: me and talk to your great great links and but yeah,
Speaker 2: that that's produced that And I could get into some
Speaker 2: side stories here one off, but the Pennsylvania side, I
Speaker 2: even that one's like I said, you got to put
Speaker 2: this some kind of you got to put this caronormal
Speaker 2: woo into it, because some stuff doesn't make sense. But that,
Speaker 2: in my opinion so far, is the most active Bigfoot
Speaker 2: location I've ever heard of. Like I have so much
Speaker 2: data there and there's so much interaction that I cannot
Speaker 2: even keep up with it. And they will come, I
Speaker 2: say they. I don't know how many individuals there are.
Speaker 2: I feel like they're juveniles or young long big Foot,
Speaker 2: but that's again it's speculation. But I even posted a
Speaker 2: couple of videos to my YouTube channel because I'm trying
Speaker 2: to post more. They make clear vocalizations right right up
Speaker 2: by the cameras, like even it sounds like, I don't
Speaker 2: know a better way to say it, but I'm almost
Speaker 2: like a monkey whoop, like a like I go a
Speaker 2: breathing loop, and then they will hit the house and
Speaker 2: it's time. It is three times at a time, like
Speaker 2: three three slaps in the house at a time, and
Speaker 2: sometimes they mix it up, but it is there's certain
Speaker 2: times that they're pretty consistent, like on the pattern, on
Speaker 2: the time of day and time frame, and then sometimes
Speaker 2: they just go off off the rails and do it
Speaker 2: like at five am for no reason. So I don't
Speaker 2: know a sense of some of those things. But let's
Speaker 2: just say from February to March, every single day, and
Speaker 2: for the past two weeks, every other day. And I
Speaker 2: finally because I've been trying to figure out to actually
Speaker 2: get them on camera because they're very good at eluding
Speaker 2: in it. I think they messed up the other day though,
Speaker 2: because I was able to catch a glimmer of what
Speaker 2: I think is the top of the head and thermal
Speaker 2: right when they started coming to the house and interacting.
Speaker 2: But they I don't know, I don't know how they
Speaker 2: do it, but they have some in a sixth sense,
Speaker 2: about them of how things are being viewed, even though
Speaker 2: I turn the lends all the time. But they have
Speaker 2: certain spots they like to come up at. And I
Speaker 2: have the guy I work with, he actually has a
Speaker 2: timmer right there down the side of the house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that there's people that are screaming at
Speaker 1: this episode right now, why not just point the camera
Speaker 1: at the house.
Speaker 2: We know they are, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, if they're slapping the house and you got
Speaker 1: the camera pointed at the house.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's definitely they're all over the house. But there's
Speaker 2: certain choke points to where they can get in and
Speaker 2: and somehow elude it. And I don't know. Again, this
Speaker 2: is where he gets into the WU thing. I don't
Speaker 2: know how they're not showing up on camera for one.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying like I don't know, Like I
Speaker 2: have all the data, it's all there. I'll probably make
Speaker 2: a huge video showing every single I at compilation. Over
Speaker 2: the last ten months, there's probably been two hundred different
Speaker 2: house laps, right probably, Wow, I mean I lost count.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, and I we've cut a lot. So they're
Speaker 2: whistling now, Okay, they're not doing woops, they're whistling.
Speaker 1: Did you release a video of that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. It's on my one of the recent
Speaker 2: ones I put on YouTube where it shows different angles
Speaker 2: some of the front cameras that I can't show. So
Speaker 2: let's see. Other trick is not being too aggressive to
Speaker 2: where it stops activity, right, So you don't want super
Speaker 2: aggressiveness where you're just like, you know, overdoing it, and
Speaker 2: so say at this side, I don't want them to
Speaker 2: be like, oh now, well you added like ten more cameras,
Speaker 2: We're not coming around anymore, right, Yeah, So you kind
Speaker 2: of you kinda have to play ball a little bit
Speaker 2: because if you don't want to change things so much
Speaker 2: that they're like, yeah, I'm not doing this anymore, at
Speaker 2: the same time, you want to add it so not
Speaker 2: to capture what you need. And I know people will
Speaker 2: have their opinions on it, but I'm really trying not
Speaker 2: to break the environment because this isn't my home set
Speaker 2: and like I have to follow the rules. Instance, I
Speaker 2: don't own this property, right right, So they're really interested,
Speaker 2: the homeowners are really interested in the topic and they've
Speaker 2: been having us for years. But that's the same time,
Speaker 2: you know, they want a bit of privacy and they don't.
Speaker 2: They don't want to turn into a spectacle for them.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's definitely angles. There is no angle they
Speaker 2: can approach that their home or their garage that I
Speaker 2: don't have covered. So technically, if they were going to
Speaker 2: approach from any angle, they'd have to pass through a
Speaker 2: camera view area of view to get to it, right,
Speaker 2: So that's my problem. I don't know how their bypassed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, except that they're doing it.
Speaker 2: I don't know. They definitely are, and they're doing it frequently.
Speaker 2: Like it's I mean, to be fair, it shry with
Speaker 2: me and saying because I'm just like, how are they
Speaker 2: doing this? The only thing I can think of is
Speaker 2: they're climbing some of the trees and doing a super
Speaker 2: fast jump. I don't and they know exactly where to
Speaker 2: do it from and how to do it to not
Speaker 2: being filmed. That's the only thing I can come up with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there shouldn't be any way.
Speaker 2: I know, I don't get it. The frame rate on
Speaker 2: these cameras is thirty frames a second. They'd have to
Speaker 2: be so fast that it's like, I don't know, but
Speaker 2: and waught some umber sixty brands a second, so you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know that they would bypass it, but you
Speaker 2: know that it leads into like is this what abilities
Speaker 2: do they have that we don't know? Like I don't know,
Speaker 2: Like I try to be open minded about it. Everyone
Speaker 2: starts off and these are some kind of animal that
Speaker 2: you know, people just really are horrible at finding. And
Speaker 2: then it always goes in the direction of of I
Speaker 2: have so much data, at least for me at least
Speaker 2: that I don't know I understand how they're doing it.
Speaker 2: So that's the whole point of the research, like why
Speaker 2: are they so good at this? And why are they
Speaker 2: doing this? Anyway we could do we could do a
Speaker 2: whole episode just on this site.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's just crazy because the train of
Speaker 1: thought that I've always had is if we just had
Speaker 1: access to a property some of these homes where the
Speaker 1: Bigfoot are coming up on the property and doing things
Speaker 1: like slapping the house and things like that, and you
Speaker 1: had a camera system at this location, then boom, it's over.
Speaker 1: Mission accomplished. But that's exactly what you're doing, and they're
Speaker 1: still finding workarounds. We're completely wrong. They're on a different
Speaker 1: level than we've ever imagined. I mean, this should have
Speaker 1: already been solved. You should have already had amazing footage.
Speaker 2: Completely agree with you, and it drives me nuts, but
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, I have ideas on placement now
Speaker 2: on just from two days ago, right, that's all I
Speaker 2: was saying. They came up, you know, the first thing
Speaker 2: they did was whistle and then side the house and
Speaker 2: that's out there on the latest YouTube video. And then
Speaker 2: right i'd say, about forty five minutes later, around midnight,
Speaker 2: they came up and they they start you know, doing
Speaker 2: their I don't know what you want to call it,
Speaker 2: like whoops, light whoops, kind of like a like I said,
Speaker 2: like a chimp kind of whoop. And then the property
Speaker 2: on your owner was texting me and saying, I can
Speaker 2: hear them like outside right now, I can hear them,
Speaker 2: so I'm literally live listening all over on my feed
Speaker 2: and I can hear them too, but I cannot see them.
Speaker 2: So it's it's it's it's aggravating. And then you know,
Speaker 2: and then I went and looked at the other cameras
Speaker 2: and reviewed all the footage, and I can see like
Speaker 2: in the tree line to the left of their house
Speaker 2: and like where they're slapping. I should be able to
Speaker 2: like they should come into view on the thermal, because
Speaker 2: we're pretty sure on where they like to slap, but
Speaker 2: they know it seems to other like crawling. I don't
Speaker 2: know what they're doing, but I think I caught one
Speaker 2: of them right because there was a exact the exact
Speaker 2: moment of the whistle and the slaps, Like you can
Speaker 2: see this thermal it's on like the edge of the
Speaker 2: roof line, which if you're really looking at it, it's
Speaker 2: it's seeing it farther away. So I feel like it's
Speaker 2: almost like two of them and they're watching out for
Speaker 2: each other, and like one of them's given like the
Speaker 2: signal to go do it with the vocals, and then
Speaker 2: the other one's doing it. And again that's speculation. I
Speaker 2: can't prove that, but I feel like that's what's happening,
Speaker 2: and like it's like a fun game to them, like
Speaker 2: they really just enjoy it. Right again, I don't know
Speaker 2: that that's the real reason they don't get me help
Speaker 2: for it, but but I that's that's just my gut feeling.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Everything you're saying goes right in line with the kind
Speaker 1: of stuff we used to say whenever I was doing research.
Speaker 1: I mean down to like the juvenile slash teenager type behavior.
Speaker 1: It being a game. We used to call it counting
Speaker 1: coup whenever they had run up and slap something, sort
Speaker 1: of like how they would just see if they could
Speaker 1: get away with something or how close they could get.
Speaker 1: The cooing is what we called the light whoops. We
Speaker 1: called it cooing. I mean the thermal cameras if they're
Speaker 1: running up and slapping the house, is the thermal cameras
Speaker 1: ever picked up keat signatures of the slap on the
Speaker 1: side of the house or the footprints of them running
Speaker 1: through the yard.
Speaker 2: So we've gotten footprints. So here's the I mean. The
Speaker 2: other thing is when it snows, they don't like to
Speaker 2: come up, right. So we had this other idea that
Speaker 2: this is more of a maybe this is a poultrygeist
Speaker 2: or more of a ghost or paranormal, right, you know,
Speaker 2: we got to look at all the ideas. But why
Speaker 2: would a ghost only come when it's not selling. That
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense, right, And that's you know, you
Speaker 2: think it goes of like the gold But but yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to roll out tangs that. You know, you
Speaker 2: got to look at all the ideas and people's ideas,
Speaker 2: but I mean, I want it to be simple. I
Speaker 2: think it's a lot less simple than we think it is.
Speaker 1: But the train of thought was the thermal camera. You know,
Speaker 1: like you see heat signatures of like animals where they walked,
Speaker 1: or humans where they walked, or if a human walks
Speaker 1: up and like holds their hand on a tree, the
Speaker 1: heat signature is still there afterwards.
Speaker 2: I've gotten some of that. They're really good about where
Speaker 2: they hit because they hit on the siding, kind of
Speaker 2: saying where it doesn't really hold heat, and they do it.
Speaker 2: They don't do it. It's like three bangs, right, so
Speaker 2: it's not going to like really transit there for very
Speaker 2: long if it's really not so. But they do put
Speaker 2: their hands on leave fingerprints. They lead ingerprints with dermal
Speaker 2: ridges all over their cars. They would they left it
Speaker 2: on their their wind their windows. I mean they lead
Speaker 2: big boulders, they lead gifts. They they put out these
Speaker 2: rubber chickens, like there's other researchers out there. Sometimes the
Speaker 2: introduce me to this place and they'll put out these
Speaker 2: rubber uh they're like the old school rubber chickens. And
Speaker 2: then and they'll leave it in the package and like
Speaker 2: put it on certain look like certain areas of their property,
Speaker 2: and then they'll take those rubber chickens and you know
Speaker 2: sometimes they'll they'll bring them back a rubber.
Speaker 1: Duck, slip an Apple air tag into the package.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what my my youngest son told me. Why
Speaker 2: aren't you just like put something, Yeah, I'll suck. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean it's sort of shot, so maybe we, uh,
Speaker 2: we should do that. But I mean I'm I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think outside the box that and do some some
Speaker 2: seismic stuff. Yeah, and then I think, and it just depends.
Speaker 2: I think I've in at least on paper, I've architected
Speaker 2: it's the way use light r like twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2: So if it is some kind of interesting way of
Speaker 2: cloaking or anti thermal capability that they have, let's just
Speaker 2: let's just it's something you don't understand. I'm thinking, you know,
Speaker 2: light ire would bounce off you know, it's going to
Speaker 2: bounce off of an object if it hits it with
Speaker 2: the light source. Right, So I'm thinking about trying to
Speaker 2: do like a twenty four seven midar there that's streamed
Speaker 2: as well. I might have to go do do a
Speaker 2: go fund me for that though, because it's kind of ricey.
Speaker 1: That's pretty big.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've I haven't done any ghosts on me.
Speaker 2: This is like, this is all self funded me. To
Speaker 2: be fair, There's one guy that I work with that
Speaker 2: every now and then has helped out on a few things.
Speaker 2: I absolutely appreciated of it. But I'm just saying, this
Speaker 2: is a whole thing, and the overhead and the costs
Speaker 2: and everything, and it's it's all on me. I've tried
Speaker 2: to just put it on me and not ask for
Speaker 2: help in the public since. But I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: the right technology needs to go fund me, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm trying to think of good ways
Speaker 2: to do things there. But again, it's a healthy finesse
Speaker 2: of if I changed too many things that they can stop.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like all these cameras there has not
Speaker 2: stopped them right, so that the whole aspect of they'll
Speaker 2: put a camera out and no one thing will come
Speaker 2: around anymore. That people say, technically that's not true here
Speaker 2: because they don't care. They just know their way around
Speaker 2: them and they maybe they think it's a game. I
Speaker 2: don't know, but yeah, they're very dubious and sneaky or
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call them. But I do have
Speaker 2: an idea a couple of things that I hopefully can implement.
Speaker 2: I mean, I put mirrors out all around the front
Speaker 2: of the property and and I have the thermal going
Speaker 2: to that's the mirror, and I have the optical point
Speaker 2: at the mirror. I'm where they an error is reflecting
Speaker 2: back on the spot that you know ninety percent chance
Speaker 2: that's where they're going to hit, and they'll do it
Speaker 2: and it won't show up. And I tested it, and
Speaker 2: those mirrors will give thermal like bounce back. So it's
Speaker 2: it's kind of agitating. I don't know, but it's fun
Speaker 2: to try to figure out. But it's at the same
Speaker 2: time it really really makes you mads.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask if some of these locations, like
Speaker 1: the Pennsylvania property and the Texas property you mentioned the
Speaker 1: orb slash UFO thing. I mean, a lot of locations
Speaker 1: seem to just attract strange things, maybe from different categories
Speaker 1: or maybe they're all connected. Do you notice similarities in
Speaker 1: that in some of the properties.
Speaker 2: The survival will one I hadn't vetted enough to know
Speaker 2: on that one, but definitely Radium in Texas and Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: They all have the classic you know, things that seem
Speaker 2: to go along with Bigfoot. So I mean the Radium site,
Speaker 2: this is when I first started. There was two exhibitioners
Speaker 2: up there and I have him on camera and they
Speaker 2: literally called me and they said, you got to look
Speaker 2: at the footage. There was a I think they called
Speaker 2: it a I think it was like a cube or
Speaker 2: a square UFO right above them, and it was scanning
Speaker 2: the ground and like shrunning a light on the ground
Speaker 2: and would go fifteen feet and shired line. And they
Speaker 2: said they just sit there and watched it. And I
Speaker 2: was like, well, that would be awesome. Let me go
Speaker 2: check the footage, right, And it's all right when I right,
Speaker 2: when I go check the footage and I get to
Speaker 2: that frame and the guy's looking at his phone and
Speaker 2: he looks up in all those black right, I'm just
Speaker 2: like that is classic bull bull craft. I mean, I
Speaker 2: mean they I've seen I've seen flashes of light in
Speaker 2: orb and radium. Radium seems to I mean they have
Speaker 2: different I mean that's heard them vocalized there. I've heard
Speaker 2: them smash trees. I've seen even on the footage. And
Speaker 2: I have so much footage. I can't even post it.
Speaker 2: All I've got, like if you look at my my
Speaker 2: device and my stuff, I've got fouled in different clips
Speaker 2: I ain't posted because I don't have time to do it,
Speaker 2: so that I've been focusing on the technology more than
Speaker 2: trying to be famous here. But like these orbs that
Speaker 2: look like they appear out of nowhere and go right
Speaker 2: into the camper there, right, and I don't like, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 5: What to do with it, Like yeah, but I mean
Speaker 5: when I people go out there, they see UFOs in
Speaker 5: scott and you see all that, even though the Texas
Speaker 5: set property.
Speaker 2: They she told me she saw a triangular like red
Speaker 2: saying in the sky and it was just hovering her.
Speaker 2: And this was like within the last two weeks. And
Speaker 2: the funny thing about the Texas property years she had
Speaker 2: two people to the writing letters. It's just that she's
Speaker 2: in the middle and I'm the first to the left
Speaker 2: of her, like she went over there to talk with them.
Speaker 2: Because I captured footage of it. Would it sounded like
Speaker 2: a gunfight at one o'clock in the morning, somebody lasting
Speaker 2: off they are fifteen, But that sounds like a military operation.
Speaker 2: And Mike I'm just like, what what is this? And
Speaker 2: she went over to talk to the property owner too
Speaker 2: last ask him about if it was this other woman's son.
Speaker 2: She basically started talking and said, well, I think there
Speaker 2: are other neighbors Murner nine with a monkey suit. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to catch him. I'm putting these trail comes out,
Speaker 2: these trail cams out. I'm trying to I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I can running around in an
Speaker 2: ape suit, but I'm going to catch him, right, Okay,
Speaker 2: So it's just come of like a cross collaboration of
Speaker 2: like indirect conservation of this. You know, if you don't
Speaker 2: believe the Bigfoot's really you're going to think of two
Speaker 2: neighbor is a monkey suit ters you at night? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So yeah, I just thought it was a pretty funny story.
Speaker 1: But I mean, and it's Texas, so you just shoot
Speaker 1: at them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, I didn't know there was activity
Speaker 2: in Central when I grew up, probably an hour and
Speaker 2: a half away from that location I grew up and
Speaker 2: lived for twenty years. I thought everything was always reported
Speaker 2: like Easter around the Houston National Forest kind of area, right,
Speaker 2: But apparently there's no activity at this site for some
Speaker 2: time from her grandparents. She's on that property and.
Speaker 1: I've heard some crazy stories from Central Texas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll ends in central Texas and nothing ever
Speaker 2: happened on her property that was like bigfoot ish. There
Speaker 2: was some paranormal stuff, but it wasn't frequent at all.
Speaker 2: But there was never was out in woods every day.
Speaker 2: I didn't see anything. But yeah, it's yeah, they all
Speaker 2: they all have that. Similar. Pennsylvania has orbs got in
Speaker 2: some of that. I've got two orbs flying through the
Speaker 2: woods on video and posted that you can actually see
Speaker 2: them going through the tree line like it's you can
Speaker 2: see where they disappear behind the branches and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's weird. I even have the side cameras that we
Speaker 2: call it the orb Camot because I just haven't parted
Speaker 2: more towards the sky because they seem to come out
Speaker 2: and be like thirty feet off the ground a lot.
Speaker 2: So I'm just waited one of the cameras up in
Speaker 2: the sky to see if we can get some orbs.
Speaker 2: But but yeah, it's there. Yeah, it's a normal bigfoot.
Speaker 2: People reporting that's what's happening a few locations. So Stephan cooperative.
Speaker 1: What future plans do you have for expanding the camera
Speaker 1: system or the app or where are you going with it?
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, I think a couple more locations
Speaker 2: would be great. I think that'll give us a solid
Speaker 2: footing at least and having a good amount of data
Speaker 2: and like you know, comparable stuff and like not just
Speaker 2: relying on one location. So, I mean there's a couple
Speaker 2: of people in talking with and in Georgia that seemed
Speaker 2: to have a lot of activity over there. But as
Speaker 2: far as the app goes, I'll kind of on with
Speaker 2: the punches a bit. I'm trying to build a model.
Speaker 2: If anyone really wants to see something different, they can,
Speaker 2: h you know, just contact me on the informations in
Speaker 2: the app, my email address, that's where most people will
Speaker 2: reach me. But tell me what makes sense ideas. I'm
Speaker 2: open to ideas for sure, I really. I mean that's
Speaker 2: been my main focus for like two and a half
Speaker 2: years is to try to architect it right. So I
Speaker 2: don't know, other than just really fine teming things and
Speaker 2: putting more locations on what to add in. I mean,
Speaker 2: I have like the saying that tells you you know,
Speaker 2: you click on it or like what's happening at the sites.
Speaker 2: It tells you like the moon phase, what it's going
Speaker 2: to be, and stuff like that. So I mean those
Speaker 2: are little like a little I don't know whatever you
Speaker 2: want to call them, just buses into it. But I
Speaker 2: don't really know what else to add in besides collaborative
Speaker 2: things or people that want to chat. Like I do
Speaker 2: have a subsection that basically integrates with YouTube, so anything
Speaker 2: in YouTube, they could wash it inside the app. They
Speaker 2: don't have to like lead the app, and they could
Speaker 2: actually make comments on those videos that don't go to YouTube.
Speaker 2: So I mean I spend little time on that. I
Speaker 2: don't think it gets a lot of play, to be fair. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I'm less focused on that. But like skuy's the
Speaker 2: limit if if somebody has a good idea collaboration tooling something.
Speaker 1: And tell everyone where they can find the app, how
Speaker 1: they can get it, and all that good stuff.
Speaker 2: So it is on Android and Apple. It's just it's
Speaker 2: Bigfoot live streams. The latest release I did is from April,
Speaker 2: so if anyone is listening to this and has an
Speaker 2: old version, just go update it. But but yeah, it's
Speaker 2: it's out there. It's I did create a website just
Speaker 2: because apparently everyone needs a website. I'm new age, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't need a website because I
Speaker 2: don't go to websites that much. But I didn't make
Speaker 2: a website. It's bigfoot Live. It's for livestream dot org.
Speaker 2: And then it kind of just goes over kind of
Speaker 2: the project and has some hard links in it. But yeah,
Speaker 2: and then inside the app is all the links to
Speaker 2: the you know, the normal social media channels and stuff.
Speaker 2: I try to post to them all, but like I said,
Speaker 2: it's been a challenge. That's why I need end users
Speaker 2: to help me find things. And you know, if you
Speaker 2: want me to post on it, I can make a
Speaker 2: post for you, or you can post yourself. I really
Speaker 2: it's I really don't want to be like a social
Speaker 2: media content creator. It's not really my goal. I mean,
Speaker 2: I can do it with it if I really wanted to,
Speaker 2: just focusing on that, but not really my main area
Speaker 2: of focus. So it's it is what it is. I
Speaker 2: really just post on there to get people talking and
Speaker 2: to like get it out there that it's there. But
Speaker 2: it's not like I'm like head down trying to focus
Speaker 2: on content creation and trying to be a content creator
Speaker 2: because it's not me, it is what it is.
Speaker 1: Well, Logan, thanks for joining me in giving us an
Speaker 1: update on the Bigfoot live stream app and camera system
Speaker 1: and all the stuff that's happening. Definitely going to have
Speaker 1: you back on. Man, we got a lot more stuff
Speaker 1: to talk about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been great. I appreciate you having me on
Speaker 2: and let me set out a bunch of technical jargon. Hey, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's fun.
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