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Speaker 1: All right off of a weekend that has seen Connor

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ben Avenge defeat not only for himself but for his father,

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with a twelve round win over Chris Eubank Junior, very

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nearly a final round TKO. We're ready to recap that

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main event in London. We're ready to recap Raphie l

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Espinoza not surprisingly retaining his WO featherweight title with an

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eleventh round technically eleventh round stopped after ten TKO over

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Arnold Kagai in the Zamfer Boxing top ranked main event

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in Mexico. We're going to recap that card. We've got

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some fight news and much more. It is the Fight

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I am merely TJ Reeves. Hello to our insider Dan Rayfield.

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Neither one of us from a good mood. One of

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us was significantly colder throughout Sunday. I have been in Buffalo,

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New York. Full disclosure, my Buccaneers beaten by the Bills.

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Rayfael I was a popsicle long about four more Eastern

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time earlier today.

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Speaker 2: As I said, better than me, bro.

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Speaker 1: Brother, I am not built for sub twenty degree wind

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chill like eighteen wind chill for the whole second half

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of the game. So the game is ended. I've done

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my stuff, I've flown back. I was not We were

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not going to be denied. Your Giants were denied. My

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Buccaneers were denied. But the Boxing fans will not be denied.

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The peeps, the savages. They'll get a full recap. How

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you feeling as we head into a new week? Off

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the weekend, we did have some action London, Mexico, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: I'm amused by your tales of being frigid in Buffalo

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as a person who grew up in upstate New York,

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got in Buffalo, but in the Albany area, went to

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college and Bingham to the words frigid, cold, and left

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there thirty years ago to move to much more temperate,

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sunny with some winter but not nearly a severe in

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the Washington, DC area. My family is still in that region,

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freeing ever hing you know what I tell my mom

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all the time. As much as I loved living there

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and it was a great place to grow up, I

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had never lived there again, just basically because I forget

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Speaker 1: I know that's why all of you moved to Florida

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by the way, I know, but I mean this is

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what it's all about.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: Get back off the airplane and it's seventy five degrees

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at night.

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Speaker 3: All right, enough about the meteorology.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for finding us on the podfeed, Apple, Spreaker, Spotify,

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wherever you get the pods.

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Speaker 3: A big week this week.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that a little later on with the

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big Red season card in Saudi Arabia. We preview going

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into the weekend, we recap coming off the weekend, and

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on the podfeed you've already heard from Abdullah Mason, who

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is on that card. You've heard from David Benavetez, who's

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on that card. Big Dan's been hustling. I've been hustling.

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We've all been hustling. So follow, subscribe, ratus and review us.

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Speaker 3: We love that.

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Speaker 1: All right, here's what we're going to do first, because

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we already did the recap of the Connor band victory

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over Chris Ubank.

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Speaker 3: We're going to relive that here on the pod feed.

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If you haven't heard.

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Speaker 1: It, it's like the old NBC slogan with the reruns

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of the summer rayfil We talked about this all the time.

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Speaker 3: If you haven't heard it, it's new to you.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to play our recap from Saturday night's

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YouTube show that we did.

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Speaker 3: We did it.

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Speaker 1: Exclusively on YouTube, by the way, we find the YouTube

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channel as well.

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Speaker 3: So you and I went back and forth.

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Speaker 1: About the Connor Band victory and the undercard, full recap

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of all of it.

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Speaker 3: What our thoughts are? Where does Ben go from here?

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Does you Bank have anything left? So are we going

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Speaker 1: And then we're going to get into the top rank

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recap here on the pod right after that. But for

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right now, let's go back to what we did Saturday night.

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It's still fresh, it's still the same on the Connor

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, it was it was not anything close

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to what the first fight was back in April. I

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fight of the year, and there's not that many fights

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of consequence left that would go into that category. And

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that's why every fight is different, whether it's a rematch

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maybe he doesn't feel so great that morning. All I

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know is this was an entirely different fight. This was

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a much more controlled and poised Connor Ben, who did

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not just go in there and go crazy wild with

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his punches like he did at times in the first fight,

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like when he heard him bad in the first fight

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in the third round, he sort of tried to empty

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the tank and kind of got all out of sorts,

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and u Bank was able to weather the storm and

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come back. So there's that aspect of it, you know. So,

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but Connor Ben fought a brilliant fight. He fought a

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outstanding fight ethnically. He was snappy with his jab, he

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worked the body, he threw some very powerful right hands,

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and he never got himself out of kilter defensively, Like

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couple of good, solid shots really the whole fight. I mean,

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this was not like the first fight where he you know,

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even though it went to twelve rounds, you know, it

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took a lot of heavy punches. You banked, whether it

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was his age, whether it was cutting the weight, whether

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it was the for a guy his age and how

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rigorous the first fight was for him a quick turnaround.

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brilliant fights, that he's the worthy winner. Or and Chris

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you Bank to me looked I mean, I don't mean

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this to like insult him, because he's been a warrior,

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but he looked kind of washed, to be honest, all right.

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Speaker 1: So that leads to that question, was it all of

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those things? Was been that good? Or is you Bank

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just done? They were saying. Even in the third and

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fourth round of the broadcast, Adam Smith brought it up

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and said, is this a fight too far off? Chris

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you Bank, Junior? And then it became a topic like

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Speaker 2: First of all, your Adam Smith impression is terrible. Don't

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Speaker 1: I went a little grovelly. I went a little gravelly

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on Adam Smith. But I mean they were asking that

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question because he could not seem to get off and

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long about the sixth or the seventh round. I don't

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think it was any longer he's waiting. I think it

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was he could not get off.

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Speaker 2: You never got a jab going at all the whole fight.

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to counter. But but Ben was the more aggressive fighter

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coming forward. You know, he tried to spend a lot

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of time trying to grab on to Ben and do

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some holding. It just he just never got on track

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his right hand or a hook, or a body punch

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clearly went to work on things in the months that

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have passed since the first fight and was way way

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more under control. You got to give credit, I guess

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to the constant preaching of Tony Simms, the trainer who's

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done a tremendous job with Connor, and they were talking

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to him after the fight. I mean, this is a

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guy that had Connor Ben from like day one. And

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an undercard and thinking like, I don't know if there's

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gonna be a second fight, because that's how bad he looked,

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and he's made himself into something better. You know, we

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can discuss the what we think of the ped situation.

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testing for the fight, he looked really good. I mean,

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you can't take it away. He gets the big, big win.

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British fans. It was for the family rivalry. And so

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now he gets the first win for the family. There

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now the team U Bank, his father and Chris Junior

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each have one win apiece. Connor has the win in

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this fight. And of course the rematch between the fathers

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was a draw in their memorable fight back in nineteen

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ninety three, and so a big crowd saw the you know,

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the rematch they wanted, but entirely different tg this nobody.

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I mean, they'll remember this because it's part of the

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saga of the of the U Bank and then family rivalry.

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it was a great event. The first fight is probably

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gonna be the fight of the year. That was a

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whole difference.

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Speaker 1: Agreed, agreed, And maybe you know again I said to you,

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maybe it's everything you said. Maybe it was too soon

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for U Bank. Maybe at thirty six he is done. Well,

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learn that here in the near future on can he

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fight again and how does he look if he chooses

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to fight again, But clearly the knight belongs to Connor

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Ben with those lead shots to the body. I thought

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it was interesting just follow up on this. You could

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hear Brian McIntyre Bomack in the corner imploring a U

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bank about the fifth or the sixth round. You gotta

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get going, you gotta get started. You also heard him

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in the early round saying, come on, Chris, twos and threes,

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twos and threes. I took that to mean combinations, throw punches,

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early he does not have it. Tonight your thought, no.

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Speaker 2: Listen, he had he didn't have anything. I mean, it

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was pretty evident. You know, you don't think about that.

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twelve round fight, but at the end of the day,

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if you're not gonna do anything for them, you can't

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give away half the fight. I saw some dopes saying,

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you know, he's throwing the fight in to make sure

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there's a trilogy. If you're gonna do that, you don't

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lose twelve rounds I mean, you at least win some rounds.

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But in the end, look the score. I had to

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fight like one of the official judges had at one

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nineteen to one oh seven. That's how I had to

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fight the other judge perfectly legit one owaight one eighteen

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one away and then I have no idea what the

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other judge looking at. Yeahrom sixteen to one ten, eight

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rounds before is ridiculous. Now, even whatever you thought of it,

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Connor at least closed the show with the two knockdowns

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in the final round where he was ready to go.

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barely any time left in the round. My thought was,

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if there's fifteen or twenty seconds left there, or maybe

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not even that much longer, he might get the stoppage.

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Two big overhand rights that that knocked the U bank

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on his rear end. And uh, you know, if you're

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gonna win a decision, and you're gonna win a lopside

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of the decision, at the very least, you know, leave

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something narrable, leave an impression at the last moment.

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Speaker 1: Did you did you think I thought after the first knockdown,

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he's gonna get the stoppage.

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Speaker 3: I thought, you.

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Speaker 1: Bank was tired done. He did knock him down again,

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and that, ultimately, because he got up, is what saved

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you Bank. I thought, did you thought? I thought in

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the moment, this is going to be a TKO. He's

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got to get him in the last round.

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first time, it was a it was a nice right hand,

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and there was about fifty seven seconds left in the

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the gloves. He probably got it out twelve to fifteen

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like that. Next knockdown doesn't happen, you know, probably I

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don't know, thirty seconds or so later. So I thought

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maybe he could get him out of there. I didn't

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hurt actually on the second knockdown, because it was a

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big shot that kind of caught him a little behind

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the head a little bit because he leaned into it.

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Speaker 1: Out that was about thirty seconds left. He had him

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on the ropes. He popped him and you Bank was wobbling.

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I'm like, we got him more though, one more good

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shot right, one more good shot might be it. And

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then again I think the referee was trying to let

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you know, no, don't do something stupid and let us

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sound savage. Punch happened. But if he can finish, let

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him finish. But again punctuation by Connor Benn. Again, let

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me say to the audience that's maybe just now finding

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the show. We've been on here for a few minutes.

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We're live exclusively right now on YouTube recapping the Connor

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Ben win. We're gonna talk a little bit about the undercard, etc.

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But we thought we would pop on right after the

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pay per view on Dezonne from Tottenham hots First Adium

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in London. Where what an image Dan Rayfaiel pick it

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up on this Nigel Ben jumps into the ring and

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thirty five years after he first fought Chris Ubanks Senior

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and got stopped, they fought again. What three years later

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helped me on my dates and it was a draw.

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The Bens finally have a win and Nigel Ben. The

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indelible image of him picking up Connor Ben and parading

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around the ring with Connor Ben on his shoulders.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm.

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Speaker 1: Taking away tonight, on this Saturday night, they finally got

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to win your thoughts and comments on those images and

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pictures we saw from England.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I enjoyed the respect showing to the fathers. Uh.

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They were part of this promotion more so, I mean,

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because we all know about what happened in the first

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fight where Chris Senior did not make any appearances until

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finally coming into the stadium with his son appearing at

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the fight that they apparently patching, you know, things up

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after a few years of being apart from each other,

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being you know, not having you know, having a fracture relationship,

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being a strange from each other. Uh. But for this one,

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you know, there was always that, you know, he showed

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up the final press conference for example, he was there

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bringing him into the to the arena again on fight night.

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Nigel thoughways been by his son's side throughout both They

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tried not to make it about themselves, but you know,

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as we discussed the other night on the pre fight,

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when they did the press conference when the when the

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Connor and and Chris Junior were doing the photo op

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after the after the press converence, you know you had

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Nigel and and and Chris seniors posing with each other,

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doing a face off like for old times sake. Yeah,

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to get a little bit of the shine there, and

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they kind of enjoyed that. And what I liked about

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what happened with them is now, obviously the sons are

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going to do this, but after Nigel and Chris Senior

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did that face off, when it was over, they gave

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each other a little like a little hug. I don't

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think they're gonna be best buddies, but they definitely have

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a healthy respect for each other after all these years

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and what their names mean to the British boxing public

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and how linked they are together. And now the Sun's

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in a similar situation. But yeah, to see Nigel, he

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was super excited. Obviously he gets the gets the zero off.

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The family ledger still two to one one in favor

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of Family Ubank, but he does get the win and

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and does so. And the most dominant of all of

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all the fights that took place, of the family fights,

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this was by far and away the most one sided

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fight because even when when when Nigel got knocked out

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in the first fight against Chris Senior, it wasn't like

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he was just demolished. I mean it was competitive and

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a great fight leading up to others. Otherwise they wouldn't

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have been a rematch. Second fight was a draw. We

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saw what happened in the first fight in April between

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the Suns. That was a super close, outstanding, fun, exciting

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fight and this time was just a complete whitewash. But yeah,

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the thing is I also liked about it is that

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even before the fight started on Saturday night, you had

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Michael Buffer doing the ring announcing, and they had conn

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they had rather Chris Senior and Nigel in the ring,

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and he introduced him to the crowd and the British

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public could pay omash them and cheer them on, and

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then it was time to get down to the real

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business of the Sons getting back to business and it

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was It's amazing that the story of the saga of

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this family has taken literally thirty thirty two years, thirty

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three years or so to play out, and Connor was

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very adamant after the fight, like this is over and done.

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There is not gonna be the saga is now complete.

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You know, we're one and one, but his plans are

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to go to forty seven. They did make the point

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and that the broadcasters said this, and you never say never.

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Chris u Bank has twins on the way Ryder has

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has two kids already that dash forward another twenty five

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years now. If they go into the family business, we

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could see generation.

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Speaker 1: You know, that would be crazy. We're gonna be old

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in the homes. I never liked like I like to

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joke with you, We're going to be old in the

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home and toothless. And then talking about Ben and u

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Bank in the what would that be twenty fifties or

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twenty sixties?

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Speaker 3: Good lord?

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Speaker 1: So that leads to this. You mentioned maybe back down

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to welterweight. What's next? Would he contemplate staying at middleweight?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's on your end, but you're

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losing your up with your Wi Fi connection badly. I

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think you were asking me about Connor Ben's future in

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terms of moving down and wait, yes, he was very

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He's very clear that. Look, this was his second fight

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in the one sixty division. He spent almost his entire

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career fighting at welterweight he did have post his suspension

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and the drug situation when he had the two smaller

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fights he did fight in the one fifties technically at

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junior middleweight. Obviously again in this fight, in the last

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fight at middleweight, but he wants to go back to

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one forty seven. He says he can make the weight

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no problem, and they're going to target a world title.

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And after everything he's gone through with the two fights

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with with with You Bank, fighting well over his natural weight,

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scoring the win in this one, obviously, I'm not surprised

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at all if the organizations give him a ranking. And

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because of his name recognition and the crowd that he

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drew and the performance that he put on. You know,

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he did serve a couple of years in terms of

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the suspension after the drug situation, it won't surprise me

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at all if he gets an opportunity to fight for

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one of the titles he wants the WBC title. He

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said that a million times. That's the belt that his

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father had in the super middleweight division, in the in

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the middleweight division, and you know he wants to fight

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Mario Barrios, who's got that title, and it's no coincidence.

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I suppose that if you were to line up the

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various title holders at one hundred and forty seven, how

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most people would identify Barrios, Although obviously a good fighter

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for and he's a world champion, if you had to

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rank the top four of the guys that have belts

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at one forty seven, he'd probably be fourth out of

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the four, But that would certainly be something he would

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look at, look at. You know, there's no there's not

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a lot of competition at middleweight that that Ben would

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necessarily fit in with anyway. So at one seven he

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can him hey, and perhaps eventually at one fifty four also,

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But he getting this win and doing it in the

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manner he did it, and his personality, in the charisma

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that he has, you know, for all the problems, he

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can be very likable, and you know he's gonna have

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some big business out of him. He's still twenty nine

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years old. He's not even close to being a shot

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fight or anything like that, and you know he's got

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a bright future for these next few years that it

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seems to me.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate all you being here. Quick thoughts on the undercard.

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Jack Catterall got a TKO late. I have to confess

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I've only seen the highlight. I've not seen the whole fight,

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and there's a lot of outcry that the fight should

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have been stopped. Quicker damn, what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: Well, I know that, as we've discussed plenty of times,

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Jack Catterall always seemed like a very nice guy and

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obviously a good boxer with good skills, but always the

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guy for me anyway that I didn't like to watch

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because he was always in boring fights, every single one

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of them. Literally. Tonight was different. Tonight was a fun

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fight to watch. Part of that was because Echo Simmon

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is one of those guys that it will comes to fight.

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Part of it, I think was the fact that Catterall

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was in his first fight under the training tutelage of

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Bozi Ennis, who teaches or preaches a more offensive minded

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style perhaps than Caterall has been used to in the past,

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and so maybe he took some of those points from

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him in the training camp and was more willing to

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step on the gas a little bit. In any event,

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it was a good fight. Caterall totally dominated pretty much

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the first half of the fight, but Essamond came on late,

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even though he had a very badly swollen right eye

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that was bloody, and you know the vision was closing.

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He had taken some good shots there. He came back

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and he won a couple of those rounds later on,

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but Catrell a little too refined, a little too quick,

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and he just took it to him. I thought the

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stop which was okay. I didn't think there was anything

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dramatic as far as why it would have been stopped

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a whole lot earlier. But he got a good Winesmon's

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coming off the win where he sent Josh Taylor into retirement,

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and this was a pretty reasonable matchup by Catterrell. You know,

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he he was trying to get back on on the

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on the right track after having moved up to welterweight

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and having maybe not looked so good even when he

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were gonna win. He did lose, of course, to Barbosa

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in a terrible performance. He came back from that fight

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in July he won against Harlem you Bank, the cousin

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of Chris Junior, the nephew of Chris Senior, in a

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god awful, horrendous, probably though maybe the worst fight I

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ever saw of Caterall and not staying a lot, but

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I give him credit. You look good against esamend and

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you know what at welter Wait, if he's maybe a

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little stronger, a little more offensive minded with Bosey as

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his trainer, maybe he can make a run there and

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match up with some of the same types of guys

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that Connor Ben wants to fight in a title fight.

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And besides that fight that was the coach. A Zeem

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was supposed to fight Zaa abd Aliav. He dropped out

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a couple of weeks ago for I guess it was

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an injury of some type, so they replaced him with

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the American Kurt Scoby, who's you know, a solid fighter,

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was eighteen and one coming into the fight. But when

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you watch them against each other, a Zeem was just way,

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way too dominant. This was a dominating, one sided beating

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by the end of the fight Scoby. You know, I'm

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not saying they should have stopped the fight, but he

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just had. It was like levels of difference of talent

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and everything. Scobe showed a good heart, but was just

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outclassed completely. That was a good win for Azeem. Stays undefeated.

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You know, perhaps one of the top young fighters in

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the entire British boxing game, whatever division. He's only twenty

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three years old and he's now got a very solid

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win against Scoby he has coming off before that. Earlier

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this year he had stopped Sergei Lipinetz, a former world

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title holder, although had seen better days but still was

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an impressive performance. He had the win against O'Hara Davis Davies,

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who was a decent contender. So he's starting to put

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some you know, for a kid that's twenty three, he's

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only got thirteen fights. He's putting the names of like

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good veterans on his resume. He's won the European title

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and the fight I think a lot of the Grits

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want to see is eventually. I don't think it's going

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to be right away We'll be seeing him against Dalton Smith.

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Smith's gonna challenge Sybril Mattias for his title coming up

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in a little bit, but at some point that's a

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very big British fight, a zem against Dalton Smith.

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Speaker 1: Okay again, that is from the Saturday night recap that

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we did on YouTube. You've got it here on the

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pod feed. You don't care how and where it ended

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up on the podfeed it did. Go find the YouTube

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page and you would have heard that all on Saturday,

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got great nostalgia videos. The interview with Abdulla Mason soon

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up on there, the interview with David Benavitez, who's got

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the main event fight with Anthony Yard coming this week.

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All right, So that now segues us off what Connor

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Ben did to later in the night on Saturday night,

477
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,519
what Rafael Espinoza did Mexico North American time with his

478
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,319
TKO win over Arnold Kagui. As I said at the top,

479
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,559
Dan not, I mean, it's not a surprise that he won,

480
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,240
and even won by stoppage. But ka, guy took some

481
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,839
punishment in this fight, so pick it up from there.

482
00:21:45,519 --> 00:21:46,920
Defends what are your thoughts?

483
00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, punishment is putting it mildly as I posted, and

484
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,119
I wasn't being overly dramatic. I truly believe this the

485
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,440
amount of punishment that his corner and the referee allowed

486
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,599
guy to take because he wasn't gonna quick He is

487
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,799
a you know, a hard man, as they say, he

488
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,799
was gonna give it everything he had until he couldn't

489
00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:08,960
stand anymore. They let him down. That as I posted,

490
00:22:09,559 --> 00:22:12,400
I'm watching this fight in about the eighth round, and

491
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,519
he'd already taken a beating through the first seven anyway.

492
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,400
But you know, to me, my feeling, I think I

493
00:22:17,519 --> 00:22:19,759
posted me after the seventh round the fight can be

494
00:22:19,799 --> 00:22:20,920
stopped now he.

495
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 3: Took he took some sad shots in the seventh.

496
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,079
Speaker 2: Sure, up until that point, you know he's getting his

497
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,079
ass kicked, But okay, they're not going to stop the

498
00:22:28,079 --> 00:22:30,559
fight after about the seventh round. Like, this fight can

499
00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:32,680
be stopped at any time. It got worse than the eighth,

500
00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:35,480
worse than the ninth, worse than the tenth. But the

501
00:22:35,559 --> 00:22:38,799
thing to me is that the kind of shots he

502
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:45,240
was taking, clean head shots, big big punches, tremendous body shots,

503
00:22:45,319 --> 00:22:48,519
tons of uppercuts. These are the I'm watching this and

504
00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:51,519
my thought was, I've watched boxing TJ in my whole life.

505
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,039
You're watching the kind of fight where when a guy

506
00:22:54,079 --> 00:22:57,079
takes that kind of punishment he ends up in a coma.

507
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,880
And I wasn't being dramatic.

508
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,519
Speaker 3: I was being You've seen it enough. You've seen it

509
00:23:02,599 --> 00:23:03,519
enough that this is where you get.

510
00:23:03,559 --> 00:23:06,279
Speaker 2: Seriously, I've been ringside for fights where guys died, okay,

511
00:23:06,279 --> 00:23:09,279
and yeah, you know that was just a travesty that

512
00:23:09,319 --> 00:23:12,799
they let that fight continue. Espinosa did his job. He

513
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,960
you know, used he's six foot one guy five foot five. Uh,

514
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,640
he's got a esposa his reach. And I looked this

515
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,359
up when I was running my preview of the fight.

516
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,440
His reach is only he's a featherweight one hundred and

517
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,480
twenty six pounds. His reach is almost the same as

518
00:23:28,759 --> 00:23:32,200
the cruiserweight champion ji Opataia. I mean that tells you

519
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,839
how big of a of a wingspan this man has.

520
00:23:34,839 --> 00:23:36,680
And he and he and as he said in his

521
00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:39,559
post fight comments translated, he could have stood on the

522
00:23:39,559 --> 00:23:42,000
outside and just boxed his ears off and won, but

523
00:23:42,039 --> 00:23:43,839
the fans wouldn't have really enjoyed that. So he likes

524
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,160
to get in there and mix it up. He's got

525
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,640
that sort of Mexican warrior dna to get in there

526
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,359
and make a fight out of it. He tried to,

527
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,039
and KA guy tried but just had absolutely nothing for him.

528
00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:56,359
So it got kind of I was like, after like

529
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,440
round eight, I'm like, I don't even to watch this anymore.

530
00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:01,440
Like to me, at that point, the competition has ceased.

531
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,000
It has now moved from it has transitioned from me

532
00:24:04,079 --> 00:24:06,880
a sporting event to being just public violence for no

533
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,160
apparent reason. There's no more competition left, and yeah, you know,

534
00:24:10,279 --> 00:24:13,200
maybe there's some wacky outlier you could find in the

535
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,480
history of boxing where a guy might score, you know,

536
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,680
one earthshaking, big punch lucky. But even if that happened,

537
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,759
at what cost, right, at what costs? Because this guy

538
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,759
just took a devastating beat down. I haven't seen a

539
00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:29,759
fucking ass kicking like that in a long long time.

540
00:24:30,319 --> 00:24:33,720
A good chin, big heart, not nearly as much skills

541
00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:37,559
or speed or power every and the thing is every

542
00:24:37,599 --> 00:24:39,880
now and again. He landed overhand right, He landed just

543
00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:43,480
enough that that guess the referee, whose name was Miguel

544
00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:45,759
Angel Knuel did not want to stop it. I was

545
00:24:45,799 --> 00:24:50,319
extremely disappointed by Marvin Simodio, who was typically an outstanding quarterman.

546
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,559
He's worked with Freddie Roach for years. He's trained a

547
00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:55,240
lot of guys on his own. He was stepping in

548
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,880
for the regular trainer of a guy who was stuck

549
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,599
because he had visa problems coming to the country. So

550
00:25:01,799 --> 00:25:03,880
he had a man in his corner that wasn't usually

551
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,519
his head coach. Maybe that had something to do with it.

552
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:08,680
If the if the regular coach had been there, maybe

553
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,279
he would have stopped Marvin. Marvin says to Uh, to uh,

554
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,640
a guy after I believe it was after the eighth round.

555
00:25:16,759 --> 00:25:19,119
You know, I'm basically giving you one more round. Go

556
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,720
out there and get it, or I'm going to stop

557
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,119
the fight. He didn't do anything, came back and he

558
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,599
let him go back out again for the ninth round,

559
00:25:24,599 --> 00:25:25,559
and he got his ass kicked again.

560
00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: And just clarify the referee as a relatively unknown and

561
00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:30,200
experienced referee.

562
00:25:29,839 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 2: In chance regular he's a regular Mexican. I mean, he's a.

563
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 3: Regular, but he's had a vast career in championship fight.

564
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that. But he was

565
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,160
assigned by the Mexican Commission and approved by the WBO

566
00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:44,440
to handle this world championship fight. So finally, finally, finally,

567
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,160
he takes another ass whooping in the tenth round and

568
00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:49,720
there's a long extended and by the way, they had

569
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,200
actually brought him, the referee had brought him to the

570
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,440
doctor twice to get checked, and they let the fight go,

571
00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:58,759
you know, in the in the rounds before the stoppage. Finally,

572
00:25:58,799 --> 00:26:01,319
after round ten, there's a long extended discussion in the

573
00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:03,359
corner with the doctor and with the referee, and with

574
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,359
the corner, and the bell rings to start the eleventh round,

575
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,599
and they're still doing their conversation and finally the fight

576
00:26:09,599 --> 00:26:12,960
gets waved off, so officially it's a TKO at fifteen

577
00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:15,799
seconds of the eleventh round. But no punches were thrown

578
00:26:15,799 --> 00:26:18,240
in the eleventh round. You know, he just didn't ever

579
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:20,319
start the round, and you know he was on his stool.

580
00:26:20,519 --> 00:26:25,839
And it is a good dominating victory for Resbinos, who

581
00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:28,480
has now made four title defenses at featherweight. All four

582
00:26:28,519 --> 00:26:32,200
of them have come by knockout. It's hard to understand

583
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,200
what his big fight is because all of his natural opponents.

584
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,160
That would be to unify either in the featherweight division

585
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,880
or for the opportunity to fight for a title at

586
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,799
one hundred and thirty because that won twenty six and

587
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,759
being six point one certainly can handle one hundred and

588
00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:47,119
thirty pounds. Basically, everybody's occupied. I was looking at the

589
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,160
listings of the guys. You got Stephen Fulton, who is

590
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,839
the WBC featherweight champion. He is next going to be

591
00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:55,480
fighting Oshaki Foster, who's the WBC on hundred and thirty

592
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,920
pound champion, so they're out of the picture. You've got

593
00:26:58,039 --> 00:27:00,960
Angelo Leo, who just had a fight finalized. He's going

594
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,039
to have a hometown defense coming up on February twenty first.

595
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:06,920
Nick Ball last month was ordered to make his mandatory defense.

596
00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:09,519
He's a WBA champion, so he's he's on the hook

597
00:27:09,559 --> 00:27:12,039
to do a mandatory with Brandon Figueroa, so that takes

598
00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:15,039
care of the guys with belts at featherweight. At featherweight,

599
00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:18,000
you have Bruce Shoeshoe Carrington, who's the WBC's interim titlder,

600
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,920
who actually I had posted something about, you know, nobody's

601
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,640
really calling this or that. Shoesho Carrington had posted that

602
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,799
he was calling him out, and I was like, not

603
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,319
a lot of people do call him out, and Shusher

604
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,079
responded to me saying, I'm calling him out. You know. Basically,

605
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,519
I am so that that's a fight that's very makeable

606
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:36,759
because they're both with top rank. But the other guys

607
00:27:36,759 --> 00:27:38,920
at one hundred and thirty are not available to him either,

608
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,319
because as I mentioned, Foster is fighting Faulton. That doesn't

609
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,640
leave him available. You have the WBO and the IBF

610
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,240
champions who are Emmanuel never at Day and Sugar Nunya

611
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:49,559
is they're going to meet in a unification fight in February.

612
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,079
And then you have Lamont Roach, who is a WBA champion,

613
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:53,599
but he hasn't fought at one hundred and thirty in

614
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,400
a while. He had a Tank Davis fight at one

615
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,720
thirty five. In his next fight coming up on December six,

616
00:27:57,839 --> 00:27:59,640
is going to be against Pitt Bull Cruz in the

617
00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:02,279
hunter and forty pound weight class. So the pathway for

618
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,519
a bigger fight for Raphael Espino's as seams blocked. It

619
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:07,279
seems to me, based on all the things I just

620
00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:09,880
said that making the Carrington fight is something the top

621
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,480
rank could do and would be an interesting matchup.

622
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: All right, So stay tuned on that and just one

623
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,279
more because again we don't want to be overly dramatic here,

624
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,079
and again I've been traveling. Do we have any update

625
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,119
that Kaguy is okay and got checked out? We don't know,

626
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,759
because it's in Mexico. I know you check around all

627
00:28:27,799 --> 00:28:30,000
the time. As far as we know, off the weekend,

628
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,440
nothing seriously wrong in the aftermath in the locker room

629
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:35,559
later in the night, as far.

630
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: As I know, you know, he just he took a beating.

631
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,960
His eye was all messed up, he was caught, he

632
00:28:39,079 --> 00:28:41,920
was his eyes one of the eyes was completely closed.

633
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,599
I mean he's going to be feeling it for a

634
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,599
little while. But in terms of his overall being able to,

635
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,440
you know, go home to his family, I think everything

636
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:48,799
was okay.

637
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that yeah, I hear you.

638
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,599
Speaker 1: And sometimes well yeah and again, where is the corner?

639
00:28:56,599 --> 00:28:58,799
Where is the referee, Where is the doctor? These are

640
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:02,279
the people in place protect the fighter, which is what

641
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:02,839
you're saying.

642
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,839
Speaker 3: All right, rest of the card.

643
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:11,599
Speaker 1: Emiliano Vargas wins controversial Lindolfo del Gato fight and Richard Torres,

644
00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:13,880
what a surprise, got another quick knockout.

645
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: I run it down for us.

646
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: Go ahead, all right, So junior welterate Emiliano Vargas. Of course,

647
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,400
if you're following boxing, you know he's the son of

648
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,039
the former two time junior middleweight champion Fernando Vargus, was

649
00:29:24,039 --> 00:29:27,799
also his father and trainer. He looked good. I mean,

650
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,400
this kid is a star in waiting if he can

651
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,680
continue to develop. He looks like a movie star. He

652
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,799
fights with a very fan friendly kind of style, and

653
00:29:35,559 --> 00:29:37,640
you know they're they're stepping them up incrementally in terms

654
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,559
of his competition, and they're trying to get him rounds

655
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:43,279
and so even though he won this fight handily, he won,

656
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,240
you know, essentially a shoutout one hundred to ninety nine

657
00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:48,720
ninety twice. He did score a knockdown in the fight,

658
00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:50,839
but he won every single round. But was what was

659
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,000
important is that this was the first this was his

660
00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:55,799
first schedule ten rounder, and he went it was forced

661
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:57,599
to go the distance. It looked like he might get

662
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,359
him out of there early on because he did score

663
00:29:59,759 --> 00:30:03,160
a knocked down in the first round. But to Jonathan

664
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,839
Monschal's credit, he similar to toughness like a guy just

665
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,240
took everything that that that Emeliano Vargas had to offer,

666
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:15,720
mostly just a blistering, devastating body attack. I I mean,

667
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,400
he got to be pissing blood today, that's all I know.

668
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:20,920
I mean, he took so many heavy body shots and

669
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:24,000
as a miracle that he never went down from the

670
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,400
body shot. I mean the shot that knocked him down

671
00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:30,319
in in the uh in the first round, that was

672
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:32,559
a headshot, you know, in the last few seconds of

673
00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:34,160
the round. It was not you know, to the body.

674
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,240
So props to Montreal for the toughness he showed. He'll

675
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,440
get more work because he's a good opponent for these

676
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,240
types of fighters that that promoters want to test their

677
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:46,200
prospects against where they'll probably win, but the guy will

678
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,119
extend them. And frankly, if the guy's not on his game,

679
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,839
who is who's the prospect? Montchreal might pull the upset

680
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,960
and beat them. So ver Vargas gets in at age

681
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,440
twenty one some very valuable rounds and showed he can

682
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,759
go the ten round distance, wasn't huffing and puffing when

683
00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:02,599
it was over, So that's a nice developmental win for him.

684
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,039
Also good for his brand to have a fight in

685
00:31:05,079 --> 00:31:07,960
Mexico where he can appeal to the Mexican fans because obviously,

686
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,160
if he's going to become a star, he's going to

687
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,799
need that backing. And then you mentioned about the leandelfhol

688
00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:16,559
Delgado fight, so this was an elimination fight between Landolfo

689
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,359
Delgado fighting in Mexico for the first time in several years,

690
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,960
since twenty nineteen he was a Mexican Olympian, and you

691
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,200
know he's fighting his countryman, a Gabriel goal Az Vealezuela,

692
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:32,440
who has been in some fights against reputable opponents, but

693
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,839
he's sort of lost when he stepped up against the

694
00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:37,319
bigger name. So Delgatfa was definitely the heavy favorite in

695
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,000
this fight. They were fighting for the mandatory. So the

696
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,160
winner of this fight, which in this case is Delgado,

697
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,440
officially he's now the mandatory for the IBF champion Richardson Hitchins,

698
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,039
so that will be a fight that the IBF at

699
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:50,400
some point in the near future will order when that

700
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,200
mandatory becomes due. The problem here is that most everybody,

701
00:31:54,599 --> 00:32:00,079
the broadcasters, myself, lots of other people whose opinions I

702
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:03,400
was reading on my social media that Delgado got a gift.

703
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,400
It was a competitive fight and del Gato pretty much

704
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,960
dominated the first you know, five or so rounds, let's

705
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,559
say six rounds at most. But valon Zuela made a

706
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:13,480
big comment.

707
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:15,799
Speaker 3: He where did del Gatto wear down? In your mind?

708
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,079
Did he get tired?

709
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: Oh? I think it was more val Zuela kind of

710
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,359
got himself going. He started landing some nice right hands.

711
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,839
He also the big moment in the fight, which makes

712
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,839
it even harder to understand giving the fight on two

713
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,079
score cards till Delgado is that val Zuela dropped him

714
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:33,400
in the twelfth round, So that's a two point round

715
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,519
in a fight where he probably already should have been ahead.

716
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,039
Yet on two score cards he wins Delgato does one

717
00:32:41,079 --> 00:32:44,240
fourteen to one thirteen. So while it was competitive, it

718
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:48,160
seemed very clear to me that Valon Zuela should have

719
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,559
gotten his hand raise. I mean, you know, that's the

720
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:52,079
way it goes. But it was you know, I'm not

721
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:54,359
going to call it the most controversial or the most

722
00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:56,400
heinous decision I've ever seen or anything like that, but

723
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,880
it was very questionable, and once again, you know, the

724
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:02,400
promoted A side gets the benefit of the doubt. In

725
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,839
the close fight where he got dropped in the final

726
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,279
round that really shouldn't have even he should have even

727
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:09,480
needed that knockdown to win the fight, but he got

728
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,440
the knockdown and he still don't win the fight except

729
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,839
on one spot card, and even that one sport where

730
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,799
he got the win was probably around too close in

731
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:18,240
terms of the points. But you know, that was disappointing,

732
00:33:18,279 --> 00:33:21,480
so I feel bad for Vealezuela. Delgado will move on

733
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:24,319
if he does fight Hitchens. If that fight happens, it

734
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,720
is my opinion that Richards and Hitchins well toy with

735
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:30,759
Landaff Delgado. It's a no hitter, baby, It's like a

736
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:34,279
twelve nothing fight. I mean, maybe Delgado wins a round

737
00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:36,279
or two just on out mustling him. But all in all,

738
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,759
Hitchins is so far superior in his boxing abilities and

739
00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:42,079
skills it's ridiculous. So we'll see what happens with that.

740
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,599
And then our boy Richard Torres off a really good win,

741
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,359
a best win of his career. He stepped up and

742
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,279
he looked good. He got the decision against Guido Vonello

743
00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:53,319
in April. That was a, you know, a pretty big

744
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:56,519
win for him. He's coming back. He fought a journeyman

745
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,559
ish opponent named Thomas Salik from the Czech Republic, who

746
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,680
I think most people sort of anticipated would last a

747
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,519
little bit longer than that, and you know, and Torres

748
00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:05,839
eventually would get to win. So I was all surprised, frankly,

749
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:07,519
that they got him out of there that quick. So he

750
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,480
lands a beautiful shot right across his nose, the right

751
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,679
hand that kind of went right across his nose, uh,

752
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,480
and then he followed up with an uppercut, and the

753
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:18,239
blood was everywhere, and it was very obvious that that

754
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,239
Salx's nose is broken. The referee, you know, with the blood,

755
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,360
called the time out, had the doctor check, and the

756
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,920
doctor's like, you know, touching his nose and you hear

757
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,159
on the audio ow ow. Yeah, I've never heard that

758
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,159
of a of a boxer, you know, crying out in

759
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,480
pain like that when the doctor is exam him. At

760
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:36,880
that point, obviously they stopped the fight. So Torres, you know,

761
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,880
gets a quick two minutes and forty five second first

762
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,400
round knockout, gets in, gets in another fight, and you

763
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,719
know his development will continue. Uh But Richard Torres, he's

764
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,880
you know, he is developing. The Vannella win was good.

765
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,320
He's exciting to watch. He's got a credit interesting and

766
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,559
fun and quirky personality. He's good for the he's good

767
00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:57,199
for the division. He's maybe one of the few American

768
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,960
hopes in the division at heavyweight. Uh So it'll be

769
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:02,320
go to see how he continues to develop. But find

770
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,400
that Thomas Salix of the world ain't gonna get the

771
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,199
job done. It's you know, I'm not the matchmaker. I'm

772
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,519
not saying you want to rush the guy. It is

773
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:10,840
the heavyweights. He's to only twenty six years old, but

774
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,280
he can definitely handle on a better level than a Thomas.

775
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:17,199
Speaker 1: Thomasy a little bit of one, although we like him,

776
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:22,079
fan friendly, great personality, and right now we've said this, Okay,

777
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:25,559
who else is an American heavyweight that's even worth watching?

778
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:29,159
So at least at this point, Richard Torres checks that box.

779
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: The one thing I'll say about the reason why an

780
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,440
opponent like Salak probably gets the call, and you always

781
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,039
have to keep this in mind when you're dealing with this.

782
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:36,559
This is like the fourth fight down the card, if

783
00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:38,800
this is not like one of the top two fights

784
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,760
or anything like that. There are budgetary concerns. You know.

785
00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:45,119
When you're an opponent for these types of heavyweights, you

786
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:47,840
know there's money to pay them if you're the co feature,

787
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,559
even at third fight, But when you get further down

788
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:51,800
the card, the pot of money that can go to

789
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,639
the opponent becomes less and less. So you're walking that

790
00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:56,519
fine line of trying to step the guy up but

791
00:35:56,599 --> 00:35:59,000
also having the opponent fit the budget. I can't always

792
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:01,679
remember that that you know when you're when you're in

793
00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:04,599
a non saudy card, but the budget becomes an issue.

794
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: All right, some news before we are done. You and

795
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,159
I left the pod Thursday night into Friday, and we

796
00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:14,079
did not know the news that came out on Friday

797
00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:18,119
morning in the UK. Uh. It was actually revealed on

798
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,039
Thursday evening to those involved in then the and then

799
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:24,000
the word leaked out. The Sun newspaper in England had

800
00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:27,119
it first, and then others began to follow up, and

801
00:36:27,159 --> 00:36:30,000
you did as well, that Joseph Parker in the w

802
00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:34,480
BO interim title fight with Fabio Wordley tested positive for

803
00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:37,480
cocaine and pick it up here on the day of

804
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:40,119
the fight, after having tested.

805
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,559
Speaker 3: Clean earlier in the week.

806
00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:45,119
Speaker 1: You you reported this just follow up on the chain

807
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:49,920
of events here and a wild twist on a positive

808
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,920
drug test for a banned recreational drug.

809
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:55,679
Speaker 2: Correct. I mean, nobody's going to tell you that that

810
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,599
cocaine is performance enhancing, but it is still on the

811
00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:01,280
band list, it is still illegal. And he did test

812
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,880
positive in Avada. You're ine test. I have seen the

813
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,599
letter from Vada that I have looked at and it

814
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:09,119
is uh, it says you know what I just said,

815
00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:11,880
that he you know, he tested positive for that. So

816
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,079
but from my sources tell me this as you mentioned,

817
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,239
So okay that the Sun reported the positive tests and

818
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,599
then Queensberry Promotions, which is the promoter for Joseph Parker

819
00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:24,079
and for Fabio Wardley and promoted the fight, put out

820
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:27,599
a statement saying that they were, uh, you know, that

821
00:37:27,639 --> 00:37:29,880
they had informed them the previous night about this pause

822
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,159
adverse finding they call it. It did not specify cocaine

823
00:37:33,159 --> 00:37:35,920
in the statement. Uh, it just said that they're, you know,

824
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,599
the matter is under investigation. The typical you know, word

825
00:37:38,639 --> 00:37:41,199
style that the that they use in these in these instances.

826
00:37:41,679 --> 00:37:43,400
But I saw the letters, so I know for a

827
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,440
fact that it was cocaine. I also spoke to Spencer Brown,

828
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,440
who was the co manager of Joseph Parker, who you know,

829
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,320
told me about how how they found out about it

830
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,559
from Queensberry. They were not aware. He hadn't spoken the

831
00:37:55,639 --> 00:37:57,639
Joe since you know, probably about a week or so.

832
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,679
They were he was waiting to get in touch them

833
00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:01,559
that sort of help him get to the as he said,

834
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:03,159
get to the bottom of it. We'll see what comes

835
00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:07,320
of that conversation between him and their other manager, David Higgins.

836
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:12,000
And then the fact is, you know, he lost the fight.

837
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:13,840
So we're not looking at a scenario where sometimes in

838
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,599
a drug testing situation, the person that has the fail

839
00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:19,079
test won the fight, and so therefore you go through

840
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:22,719
the whole process where eventually the result has changed fabou wordy,

841
00:38:23,079 --> 00:38:26,760
controversial or otherwise. He did get the knockout. But it's

842
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,440
just an unfortunate situation for Parker. But the thing that

843
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:31,559
was quirky is about you mentioned. It's the test on

844
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:32,920
the day of the fight. I think it was a

845
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,679
post fight test. The letter doesn't specify what time of

846
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,199
day it was given, just the date. And so my

847
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,079
sources tell me that he took a similar VADA test

848
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,840
on the day before the fight. That test was clean.

849
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,840
The test that was given to him on the day

850
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,559
of the fight is the one that came back dirty.

851
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,159
If you know anything about cocaine and how it attacts

852
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,000
the system and drug testing, it is one of the

853
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,920
types of drugs that it's only in your system for

854
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,239
a few days, three four days, that type of thing.

855
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:01,599
And so what that tells you is he if he

856
00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:04,000
failed the test the day off but not the day before,

857
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,679
means he probably ingested.

858
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 3: Was using it that night or that morning exactly.

859
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: So that's not a good thing. Now. They also gave

860
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,719
him a u cod which overseas testing in Britain gave

861
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,719
him a test also on the day of the fight.

862
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,239
That test last I checked. Maybe it's back by now,

863
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,320
because when I discussed this it was on I guess

864
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,480
it was on what day, on Thursday Friday, on Friday

865
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:29,199
Friday that that test result had not come back yet.

866
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:34,599
But that'll be interesting because so positive, that's a problems there,

867
00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:38,800
and we should one's negative and one's positive, that right.

868
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,559
Speaker 3: And so what we should say is we don't know here.

869
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: If there is a subsequent test of the B sample,

870
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,519
well and hold on.

871
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 3: If they they won't even do that, just let me finish.

872
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: They want to do the B sample, and the B

873
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,199
sample says he didn't test positive, that could be in play.

874
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,440
And what you're saying is there's a totally separate u

875
00:39:56,519 --> 00:40:00,800
COD test as well involved. I'm not looking to absolve

876
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,880
him or giving the benefit of the doubt. I'm just

877
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,480
saying we're in the middle of this and it's evolving,

878
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:06,840
So go ahead.

879
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: Right in terms of the B sample, anytime you fail

880
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,599
a VADA test or any test for that matter, and

881
00:40:11,679 --> 00:40:14,360
VADA in particular, I know because I've read the letters

882
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,280
a thousand times. It specifically says literally that the athlete

883
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,239
has the right, at his own expense, to have the

884
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,760
B sample open. He has ten days to let them

885
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,000
know what he wants to do. Most of the time

886
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:28,440
they test to be And as I have stated one

887
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,719
thousand times, I remember this was a big, big bone

888
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,599
of contention after I broke the story that Ryan Garcia

889
00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:37,280
had failed his drug test related to the Devin Hainey fight. Well,

890
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,559
the B sample might come back negatively, And all I

891
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:42,639
can say is this, I've been covering drug testing for

892
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,880
twenty five years, so roughly, and in my entire time,

893
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,000
I've written who the heck knows how many stories about

894
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:51,039
drug testing and positive tests? One hundred moll more than that.

895
00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:54,000
I'm sure way more than that. You know, if you

896
00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:57,559
take an account, you know multiple stories on certain cases.

897
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,280
I mean, on Tyson Fury and Ryan Garcia alone, I

898
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,159
probably wrote, you know a dozen of type stories. Here's

899
00:41:03,199 --> 00:41:07,519
the point, it rarely, rarely, you probably got a better

900
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:10,199
chance I went in the fucking lottery and having the

901
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,360
B sample come back any different than the A sample,

902
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:14,679
I can't. There's one. I have to actually figure out

903
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,800
what case it was. I know there was a specific

904
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,480
case years ago, and I just for the life of

905
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:21,960
me cannot remember what test it was in terms of

906
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,119
which fight where there was a difference in the B

907
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,280
sample being negative to the A sample, and it was

908
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,280
legitimately discovered. I believe legitimately that there was a chain

909
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,639
of custody issue with the A sample and it did

910
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:38,280
get contaminated, and so whatever happened that one came back positive,

911
00:41:38,559 --> 00:41:40,679
but the B sample came back negative and the athlete

912
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,760
was absolved. That's like a once in a lifetime thing. Yes,

913
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,199
So like I say, you might walk out on your

914
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,280
driveway and get hit by a meteorite, better out have

915
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,360
a better B sample.

916
00:41:51,159 --> 00:41:52,679
Speaker 1: Being And let me say, and let me say, I've

917
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,719
been doing this now for thirty five years in the media.

918
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,199
I've been doing this in the national media for over

919
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,960
twenty years, the same as you covering all sports broadcasting

920
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:06,039
in the football world, broadcasting and covering the Olympics where

921
00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:09,480
they do drug testing, the drug testing baseball. Now we

922
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:11,280
hear this over and over and over again that they're

923
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,239
gonna test the B sample, and again you're gonna hear it,

924
00:42:15,639 --> 00:42:18,840
I'll say five hundred times, and maybe even all five

925
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,760
hundred the B samples the same thing. There have been

926
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,360
occasions where the B sample might be inconclusive, but the

927
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,239
BE samples not negative for what goes on.

928
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: We've heard that before, so stay tuned. The bottom line.

929
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: The bottom line is it looks right now like he

930
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,000
did a very stupid thing and took cocaine before this fight.

931
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 3: That's what it looks like.

932
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 2: And then listen there there is the possibility of a

933
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,000
contamination if cocaine is a recreational drug. And I'm not absolving,

934
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:48,239
I'm just saying this. I can actually see this being

935
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,079
the thing. You know, someone's preparing your food and they've

936
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:55,119
been partying, and it's on their fingers, it's on their body,

937
00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:57,320
it gets in it. I'm just saying that is not

938
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,400
that's lot a lot less outlandish some of the excuses.

939
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 3: And then he needs to come out and explain that now.

940
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 2: Okay. So so in the original story that I wrote

941
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,199
and most of the reporting that I read from other

942
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,280
people there, I had the comments from Spencer Brown, who

943
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,400
was Joseph's co manager. But he went out, I believe

944
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,960
the next day and posted a message on his social

945
00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:20,599
media saying that he wanted to address the news. Now.

946
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:24,519
He never said the word cocaine in his in a statement.

947
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:27,079
He simply said that, you know that before his recent fight,

948
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:29,559
he had taken the voluntary test and that I quote,

949
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:32,199
have now been informed that a return in adverse find

950
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,760
an adverse result. This came as a real surprise to me.

951
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:37,320
I did not take any prohibited substance. I do not

952
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,400
use performance dancing drugs and do not support their use.

953
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,719
I'm cooperating fully with the process that underway, and I

954
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,400
am confident the investigation will.

955
00:43:45,199 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: Why he if he didn't do it, why did he

956
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,199
not come out and say I never took cocaine. I

957
00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:50,320
don't know what they're talking about.

958
00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: Well, he used performance enhancing drugs, but that he.

959
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: Knows that a ped that's right, that's a nuance.

960
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,199
Speaker 2: That that my my lawyer in ten went a when

961
00:44:00,199 --> 00:44:00,639
I saw that.

962
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,199
Speaker 3: You know, yes, it's very simple.

963
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: Sometimes we boil this down to, like my wife when

964
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,360
she's trying to get to the bottom of something in

965
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,599
the fifth grade classroom and education, did you do this

966
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,119
work or did you do this or not? And generally speaking,

967
00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:17,679
the fifth graders are really good about confessing and sometimes

968
00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:20,400
with tears about whether they did it or not. So

969
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:24,559
it's very easy here to say I did not do cocaine,

970
00:44:24,639 --> 00:44:27,000
and I welcome the B sample to be tested because

971
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:27,840
I don't understand this.

972
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:28,519
Speaker 3: He didn't do that.

973
00:44:28,639 --> 00:44:31,679
Speaker 2: So now if there was contamination, the BE sample is

974
00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:33,679
going to show that also, by the way, but.

975
00:44:34,039 --> 00:44:37,039
Speaker 3: You but you better be presenting whatever.

976
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: Who knows okay, and he is he looking at at

977
00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:43,719
least a year, and he could be looking at more

978
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:44,320
than that, right.

979
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,079
Speaker 2: Control uses the UKA uses the result. See here's the

980
00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:51,519
here's the loophole. We've been down the road with the

981
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:55,079
connor ben drug test. They don't like to accept VODA

982
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:58,480
results because yu cod is their official tester. So if

983
00:44:58,519 --> 00:45:00,800
in fact he wound up negative and u con test,

984
00:45:01,039 --> 00:45:03,679
they may pull the same bullshit and try not to

985
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:08,360
recognize the VADA test. However, if the British Boxing Board

986
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,639
of Control recognizes the test results as actually happened, be

987
00:45:12,679 --> 00:45:16,000
it yukad vada or whatever, he's facing like a two

988
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:18,639
year ban. If he faces a two year ban, then

989
00:45:18,679 --> 00:45:21,719
there's a reasonable chance at Joseph Parker's career at the

990
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,280
top level anyway is I won't say over, but it's

991
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,119
very badly hurt because he's already thirty three years old

992
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,079
and he's had a lot of tough, hard fights for

993
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:32,400
the year. So you know, if you take off two years,

994
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:33,800
it's not out of the rum. You come back, but

995
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:35,719
you know, one thing at a time. I just wanted

996
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,920
to mention one other thing. A lot of drugs that

997
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,559
if you get caught with it in your system, there's

998
00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:44,159
a threshold that flags an adverse finding. In other words,

999
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,480
you might have a small amount in your system, but

1000
00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:49,079
it doesn't reach the amount that would cause a positive

1001
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:52,599
test to trigger. There are certain drugs where you could have,

1002
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,639
you know, a ton of it in your system or

1003
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,239
a tiny, tiny, little micron, and it being there at

1004
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,159
all is going to flag the the the positive test.

1005
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,920
So I'm going to read the line in the in

1006
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,400
the letter from Vada that was I found very interesting,

1007
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,639
where after they said the results of the year analysis

1008
00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:11,599
were an adverse analytical finding for cocaine metabolite and then

1009
00:46:11,639 --> 00:46:14,559
that's a very long scientific word detected and I quote

1010
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,679
at an estimated concentration greater than the minimum minimum reporting threshold.

1011
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,119
So apparently you can have cocaine metabolite in your system

1012
00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:27,920
at a very very very tiny level, whatever that level is.

1013
00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:30,400
What they found in his was at least something above

1014
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,360
that level. That's that's all I can say.

1015
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: I trouble for him to explain. All right, good reporting.

1016
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,440
Let's get to a couple of more things and then

1017
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,760
we'll get out of here. Off the boxer match room show.

1018
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,719
Turkey al Chic was there. By the way, I mean Rayfaield.

1019
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,159
It was kind of a who's who when they're showing

1020
00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:50,400
Pierce Brosnan sitting there with Rod Stewart at ringside.

1021
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 3: Hello, that was the big time. That was fun to see.

1022
00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: Jason Statum, some footballers, the British soccer stars were there,

1023
00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:01,760
the whole bit, all right, Turkey Turkey al Chic there

1024
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,000
as well as Eddie Hearn and they're mentioning about Anthony

1025
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:09,360
Joshua and Tyson Fury. I thought Tyson Fury's retired, all right,

1026
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,079
give me more, give me a little more on this.

1027
00:47:11,679 --> 00:47:13,559
Speaker 2: So there's been a lot of discussion, like what is

1028
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:15,280
going to be the next fight for Joshua. You and

1029
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,559
I have discussed that. Everybody's talking about the prospect of

1030
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:19,719
this December fight against Jake Paul.

1031
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: Should I interject right now, there's now Sunday night, seventy

1032
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,679
two hours after you and I last talked. There's no

1033
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,800
official confirmation that that fight's happening, and Reeves will further

1034
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,079
say a little punchy after flying this evening from Buffalo.

1035
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,280
If I don't see something tomorrow that says that this

1036
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,079
is happening, then I'm going with my theory this is

1037
00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:42,679
to smoke out somebody else to agree to the price

1038
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:43,480
and fight them.

1039
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens with that, right June whatever. But

1040
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:49,039
the thing is, as it relates to this, this is

1041
00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:52,400
not related to the possibility of Joshua having this fight

1042
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,159
against Jake Paul. That if the fight with Jake Paul happens,

1043
00:47:55,159 --> 00:47:58,079
it's like a pit stop because everybody's in expecting that

1044
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,960
Joshua would just destroy you. So what Turkey and Eddie

1045
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,320
we're discussing was a plan that they are in the

1046
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,800
process of putting together apparently, where they have Anthony Joshua

1047
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,840
fight somebody decent I guess in Saudi Arabia in February,

1048
00:48:16,159 --> 00:48:19,960
and then in September, assuming that he wins, Tyson Fury

1049
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,400
comes out of retirement whatever you want to call it,

1050
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,480
and finally in the UK they have the big fight

1051
00:48:25,519 --> 00:48:30,360
between Joshua and Fury, And as Turkey was saying, I

1052
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,519
make my deal with Eddie, do you accept these terms? Yeah,

1053
00:48:33,559 --> 00:48:35,760
your nay. Don't worry about what Fury is getting. He

1054
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,559
goes to Fury does the same thing. Don't worry about

1055
00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:40,119
what Joshua's getting. Here's the deal. Take it or you know,

1056
00:48:40,119 --> 00:48:41,159
I don't know to take it or leave it. But

1057
00:48:41,199 --> 00:48:43,480
here's what we're offering. And you know where I'm going

1058
00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:45,880
to be the conduit. And Eddie was like, you know,

1059
00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:47,679
Turkey is the one that's gonna have to make this

1060
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,760
fight because for all these years it went unmade for

1061
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,039
different reasons, whatever the case may be. They have different promoters.

1062
00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:00,000
But again, Turkey Alshik has been making the biggest fight

1063
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:02,480
and boxing. I mean, he whatever you think about the

1064
00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:05,800
way they've done it, about him, about Saudi Arabia, about

1065
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,119
anything to do with this bottom line, in terms of

1066
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:11,239
strictly boxing, Turkey's delivering the goods and if he can

1067
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,960
get uh, you know, if he can get Fury against

1068
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:17,760
usig Don and Benavite's I mean, is a Bevo and

1069
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,920
better BV done and and any number of outstanding fights

1070
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,079
that they have been involved with h through read season

1071
00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:27,039
and the Ring magazine, this is the one that so

1072
00:49:27,159 --> 00:49:30,239
far has alluded him and even he even got Joshua

1073
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:37,000
and Wilder done. It's just a Wilder got got right happen, right,

1074
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,639
and so but at least Turkey got the deal done.

1075
00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:39,840
I mean, we just didn't get to see the fight

1076
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:44,639
for for obvious reasons. But if anybody can deliver Fury, Joshua,

1077
00:49:44,679 --> 00:49:46,920
which by the way, is already you know, a little

1078
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,199
on the stinky side in terms of sour milk, but

1079
00:49:49,519 --> 00:49:52,639
you know, still still edible, he's the one that can

1080
00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:54,519
get it done. And I believe that if he comes

1081
00:49:54,519 --> 00:49:57,239
back and there's no crazy shit like happened with Wilder

1082
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,199
and there's a loss or some kind of other situation

1083
00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:02,719
that I'm next September, probably at Wembley Stadium, there's going

1084
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,360
to be a big ass fucking heavyweight.

1085
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 3: Fight, all right.

1086
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: I believe that it happens when I see that all

1087
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:10,280
the way in September. I don't know why we can't

1088
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,199
have it earlier than that, you know, josh we don't

1089
00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:15,000
even fool around with Jake Paul just to go the

1090
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:16,679
go have the Fury fight early part of the year,

1091
00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:17,920
if I'm waving the wand.

1092
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 3: But stay tuned, stay tuned on that all right.

1093
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: And by the way, Mattroom and Dezone did announce their

1094
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,519
January February start of twenty twenty six fight cards. You've

1095
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:31,920
talked about a couple of these already schedule recent.

1096
00:50:31,639 --> 00:50:33,159
Speaker 3: Pods, So go over it real quick.

1097
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:35,599
Speaker 2: Here, go ahead, Okay, So just to keep one thing

1098
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:38,039
in mind, though, this is not the entirety of the

1099
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:42,519
de Zone January February schedule. This is strictly the Massroom

1100
00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:45,679
events because remember they also were going to have Queensberry

1101
00:50:45,679 --> 00:50:48,199
events that like, for example, they have the January event

1102
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,119
with Moses and Tama. They also have Golden Boy events.

1103
00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:52,960
They also have other things they bring in. They do

1104
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,639
things with Seleti Pross, They've got lots of other boxing activity.

1105
00:50:56,679 --> 00:50:59,320
This is strictly the Matchroom deal that they have. And

1106
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,440
I actually for the first time in a long time

1107
00:51:02,679 --> 00:51:06,679
where there's been an official announcement of a slate of fights,

1108
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,719
and I'm like, man, this is a good schedule, Like

1109
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,760
every one of these to me is worth watching. And

1110
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,880
they didn't just announce one fight. They announced four main

1111
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,880
events officially with venues and dates. And keep in mind

1112
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,639
also there will be co features and other undercard matches

1113
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,039
add to these shows, and the other thing and They

1114
00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:25,159
specified this in their announcement, and I'm glad that they

1115
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:28,519
did this because for a while it's been confusing. They

1116
00:51:28,639 --> 00:51:31,840
very specifically said, these are all part of your regular subscription.

1117
00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:34,000
None of these are a pay per view up charge

1118
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,079
or part of that new Ultimate Planner or whatever you

1119
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:38,519
want to call it. These are you have the zone

1120
00:51:38,639 --> 00:51:41,320
on your sub you put on your screen, on your

1121
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,719
stream or your screen on a Saturday night, and these

1122
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,519
fights are there no extra charge. So we'll start out

1123
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:48,960
on January twenty fourth. We've all known that this fight

1124
00:51:49,079 --> 00:51:51,280
was happening, but now the date and location are official.

1125
00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:54,639
This is the mandatory fight between the IBF lightweight title

1126
00:51:54,639 --> 00:51:59,719
holder Raymond Moretaya in his mandatory defense against Andy Cruz,

1127
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,039
the the undefeated Olympic gold medalist. Fight will take place

1128
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:05,360
January twenty fourth at the Font and Blue, Las Vegas.

1129
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,360
I had the occasion to stay at the Font and

1130
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,960
Blue during the fight week for Terrence Crawford and Canelo Alvarez.

1131
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,760
I know the room They're gonna have it in the

1132
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,079
Font and Blue Live or the Blue Live Theater. It's

1133
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:17,760
where they had two of the shows during fight week.

1134
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,559
Really good spot for not a mega fight, but just

1135
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:23,960
a good fight. That'll be a good location to do

1136
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,239
that event. So that's the twenty fourth. Then you move

1137
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,800
on to one week later, January thirty first, and I

1138
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,519
will add that of the four fights that now, it's

1139
00:52:30,519 --> 00:52:32,920
tour in the United States, tour in the UK. So

1140
00:52:33,039 --> 00:52:37,639
January thirty first, they are in the Utilia Arena in Newcastle, England.

1141
00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:40,599
That is the hometown of Josh Kelly, who as the

1142
00:52:40,639 --> 00:52:44,880
mandatory challenger, will challenge Bakram Ortazalia for the IBF Junior

1143
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,800
Middleway title. That is January thirty first. Bakram back in

1144
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,199
action for the first time in over a year. I

1145
00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:55,320
guess they'll be since he knocked out Tim Zou so devastatingly.

1146
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,800
Moving on to February twenty first, Nottingham, England at the

1147
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,079
Motor Point Arena. This is a rematch between Leewood and

1148
00:53:04,159 --> 00:53:08,079
Josh Warrington, two popular former featherweight title holders from England. Uh,

1149
00:53:08,119 --> 00:53:10,880
they fought once before. Both of them have kind of

1150
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,800
fallen on hard times. Uh you know, Wood's been inactive, Warrington,

1151
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,559
you know, retired, came back. They did have their first

1152
00:53:17,559 --> 00:53:20,599
fight and so there, you know it was I don't

1153
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:24,320
know if I can't I don't know if it was controversial. Uh,

1154
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,840
but will gonna be in his hometown to do this

1155
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,800
fight and uh, and they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna

1156
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,719
get it on. And keep in mind when they fought

1157
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,000
the first time, this is back in in the late

1158
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,000
twenty twenty three in Sheffield, England, which was neither this

1159
00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:39,079
not the hometown for either guy, was just a you know,

1160
00:53:39,079 --> 00:53:42,119
a neutral territory. Wood was way down on all three

1161
00:53:42,159 --> 00:53:45,199
scorecards in that fight and he rallied for the knockout

1162
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,079
in the seventh round to retain the WBA featherweight title.

1163
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,480
And now Warrington is getting a rematch, so that's a

1164
00:53:51,519 --> 00:53:52,960
non title Memberrington.

1165
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,039
Speaker 1: Warrington very famously had like a farewell moment where he

1166
00:53:57,079 --> 00:53:58,840
waved to the crowd and then went and laid his

1167
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,960
gloves in the middle of the ring. And it only

1168
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,880
reinforces what I say to you repeatedly, these guys never retire.

1169
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 2: And Warreckton has come back actually and has had one

1170
00:54:07,079 --> 00:54:09,599
since then, so she has. But listen, you know what,

1171
00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:11,719
these two guys at least are evenly matcher both at

1172
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,639
the end of their careers. They've both been you know,

1173
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,960
good soldiers. The fans I'm sure there will gravitate towards this.

1174
00:54:18,039 --> 00:54:21,800
They'll be probably a great crowd in the hometown of Leewood,

1175
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:23,800
and they'll put on a good fight. You know, it

1176
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is what it is. I mean, I'll watch it and

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then then we got this is to me, you know,

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this is All the fights that I'm mentioning are all

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worthwhile to watch, but this is the best one, no

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doubt about it. This is February twenty eighth. It's gonna

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be the Desert Diamond Arena in Glendale, Arizona. And this

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is the fight I mentioned earlier when we were going

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over some other things. Emmanuel never at A, the WBO

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title holder, had one hundred and thirty pounds in the

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unification fight against his Mexican countrymen Eduardo Sugar. Nunia's who

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is the WBO champ or the w what is he?

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The IBF champion correct? Is now the IBF champion correct?

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So this is this is a very good fight. I mean,

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if you remember when Nunya had his hometown defense after

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he won the title in Japan, he defended the title

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against Petufo Diaz. This is back in September in Los Mochis,

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which is his hometown and uh Navarette was their ring side,

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and after the fight was over, the deal wasn't done

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yet obviously, but they brought him into the ring. They

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both showed respect for each other. They talked of how

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much I'd like to fight the unification. Eddie Hearn was like,

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let's go and try to make this Mexican war. And

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the question was, Okay, that's a great match. Hopefully they

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can do it. But if you remember the controversial technical

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technical what was it a technical draw? I guess that

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they called it or no contest? I forget it. But

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the point was they had that that situation between Navarette

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and Suarez on the on did the headbutt get caused

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by a punch to get caused by a by a

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by a.

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Speaker 1: Headbut originally Navarate won by technical decision, then it was

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overturned by the replay right.

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Speaker 2: And what it did became a no contest I guess correct. Okay,

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So the w BO, as soon as the California Commission

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made that determination, the WBO ordered the immediate rematch, and

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so they were on the clock to make that fight.

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And I guess and the bottom line was they basically

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had an offer out of some type of deal for

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Suarez to have another fight at a certain price. While

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he waited to allow them to do the the the

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unification fight, he still didn't accept it. Maybe that's changed

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over the last few days, but the bottom line was

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the WBO decided to allow the unification fight. I guess

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for the for the good of the sport, and that's

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what they're doing. So Suarez is gonna fucking pound sand

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for a little while or accept the deal, and the

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fans won't care because they want to see Navarett. This

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This fight has a chance to be something special.

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Speaker 1: Sugar nonnas can punch. We said this before, never taken punch.

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Sign me up in February.

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Speaker 2: Navarette he's got thirty nine wins and thirty two knockouts

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and Nunez has thirty wins and twenty eight knockouts. And

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don't believe what you see on the box Wreck record

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where it says he's got twenty nine wins because they

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refused to put the eliminate fight that he fought against

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rock them off in the actual official fights, at least

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on the IBA fights. But it was an IBF eliminator

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with the judges and the and the supervisor and should

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count on the regular record. It drives me absolutely fucking

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crazy with box Treck. He's thirty and one with twenty eight.

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I don't give a fuck what box Reccess.

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Speaker 1: Oh got off a little blast on box Wreck before

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the pod is close.

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00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:22,559
Speaker 2: Box Wreck, but they do stupid shit on Stirtin.

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Speaker 1: Well, there you go, and this is you holding them accountable.

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I try to hold you accountable and you definitely hold

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00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,760
me accountable. Other than that, I think we are good

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tonight with the full recaps. Again for the pod audience here,

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we should say that we will be in the preview

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mode of this tremendous read season card later in the week.

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I'm gonna try to recover from being frozen in Buffalo

1247
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and then I head to Los Angeles this week with

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my Buccaneers playing the Rams in a wild Sunday night game.

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You and I are probably I will say probably, I'll

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00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,440
use that word. We're probably gonna go live again after

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00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,480
the Saudi Arabia cardet Saturday evening US time when it

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ends on the YouTube page exclusively. So go find the

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YouTube page as well, just like we did this past

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Saturday for the Connor Beinn victory over Chris You Bank

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so you'll get some some thoughts the way.

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Speaker 3: It's a tremendous car.

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Speaker 2: That's a really good show. Benevite's Yard, Brian Norman, Devin Haney.

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Speaker 3: It's the best card here at the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: The final Rodriguez against Fernando Martinez in a three belt

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unification fight, and then Abdullah Mason and Sam Noaks in

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00:58:29,679 --> 00:58:32,000
a vacant lightweight title fight, and then have some other

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00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,599
you know, uh, smaller fights on there, but the main

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four said, damn good Park.

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Speaker 1: We're looking forward to that for later in the week.

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For now, we are good here, Big Dan, have a

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good week. Thank you for the time and the insight

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on all of this. Read the Substack, The Fight Preach

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Unite Substack a newsletter for all the intel breaking news,

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great nostalgia, et cetera. We love all of it. Mcdan,

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have a good week.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. As always YouTube there is Dan Rayphiel. I

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am merely TJ. Reeds.

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Speaker 1: You have been part of the Fight Preach Unite Recap podcast.

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