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<v Speaker 1>It's later with Moke Kelly ca If I Am since

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<v Speaker 1>forty one live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and we

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<v Speaker 1>have a huge show for you tonight, so much to cover.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll tell you about how the LA Community colleges are

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<v Speaker 1>going to test out guaranteed basic income and see where

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<v Speaker 1>that leads. And if you're a donuts fan like I am,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love me a donut, you bring a donut

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<v Speaker 1>to the office, I'm probably gonna eat one to eight

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<v Speaker 1>or nine of them. Well, Dunkin Donuts Free Wednesdays are here,

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<v Speaker 1>and not only will you get a free donut, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not too late for today, but they also have some

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<v Speaker 1>free offerings in the coming as we go through the holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll tell you about how the Santa Anna Mayor has

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<v Speaker 1>proposed an ordinance to combat homelessness. You know how I

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<v Speaker 1>feel about that. It may be well intentioned, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>so sure about the execution of it and whether it

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<v Speaker 1>actually changes anything. But most importantly, the most important story

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<v Speaker 1>of the day is this twenty five years or so ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Tawala Sharp was born on this day, sometime in the

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<v Speaker 1>late nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he was born. When were you born? Late nineties? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. Let's go with that. Late nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, today is the birthday of none other than the

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<v Speaker 1>producer of Later with mo Kelly informally and previously The

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<v Speaker 1>mo Kelly Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Twala. What's your middle name?

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<v Speaker 3>It's Twala? Now what's your middle name? You'll never find out?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, it's okay, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't I know. It's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your middle name? Yes, Twala, yes Sharp, let's go

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<v Speaker 3>with that. Twala Sharp. How bad could it possibly be?

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<v Speaker 2>Come? I can't be It's yeah, we're fine. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So you look, my wife does not have a middle name.

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<v Speaker 1>She literally does not. I've seen her birth certificate, I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen her driver license. She does not have a middle name. You,

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<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, you do have a middle on

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<v Speaker 1>my birth certificate, it says to Walla Sharp. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe them it. So are you letting that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have one? Are you saying that you just don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to tell us that you have?

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<v Speaker 3>I am saying, as I became a UH certified and

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<v Speaker 3>naturalized American citizen when I swore allegiance to this country

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<v Speaker 3>under death or perjury, I said, just put Toala Sharp.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so you weren't born with that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're lying now, No, no, no, no, no, no no,

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<v Speaker 3>I was born with that. But but you'll never know

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<v Speaker 3>what the middle name ever was. You know your mom

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<v Speaker 3>listens to that ship.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>No I can email her saying I think I should

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<v Speaker 1>email your mama and find out the truth. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>truth to be heard.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we need to know this, we need to know that.

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<v Speaker 2>And so here's the beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the beautiful thing, right, Because my mother does not

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<v Speaker 3>like me talking about her on the radio. She doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>like us posting anything on social media, no photos, no nothing,

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<v Speaker 3>leave her out of all that. She would never divulge

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<v Speaker 3>anything about me. But well, no, no, we're not talking

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<v Speaker 3>about her, no, because she knows, hey, the exact same

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<v Speaker 3>courtesy I give you by keeping you off of social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Even in mother's.

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<v Speaker 3>Day, she would extend to say to me like, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>no one needs to know your middle name.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, look at the time, can I ask her to

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<v Speaker 1>at least have her tell me this instead of taking

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<v Speaker 1>your word for it. No, you can't even ask her that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that means, I guess all we can do is

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<v Speaker 1>just like tell you happy birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. Sallet we don't want that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, there's a rumor going around that you made some

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<v Speaker 1>of your legendary gumbo for the show tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>As it is now tradition.

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<v Speaker 3>On my birthday, I made gumbo for the crew and

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<v Speaker 3>it is stellar.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say it myself. Stellar.

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<v Speaker 1>For people who may not be familiar with the idea

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<v Speaker 1>or concept of gumbo, how would you describe it?

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<v Speaker 3>Gumbo is a almost akin to a gravy in which

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<v Speaker 3>you season really, really well and add in all types

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<v Speaker 3>of ingredients in mine today. I didn't want to say

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday because I wanted you all to experience it when

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<v Speaker 3>the crew tasted. But but it is chocked for there's so

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<v Speaker 3>much crab in it. I almost couldn't fit it all

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<v Speaker 3>in the pot. There's at least like four or five

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<v Speaker 3>pounds of snow crab crab meat. There is okra corn

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<v Speaker 3>tomato oh Mark has never had before.

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<v Speaker 2>There is sausage galore. Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're actually on your way to becoming a black man,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to have okra in your life at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's tonight you have.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, no, I just put it in gumbo of

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<v Speaker 4>my own stuff like that good Man Jumbalaya that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, Jumbalai, you're you're you're warm.

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<v Speaker 3>You got it? Am I still half black? That's why, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Completely black, because you don't know about fried Okra.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on the way.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be fully one black someday as soon as Twala

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<v Speaker 4>releases his middle name.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you may not ever get there.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, there's other ways. There's other ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we can call the government. Well I'm not I

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<v Speaker 2>will not the.

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<v Speaker 3>Way about other ways from Mark to Oh, give you

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<v Speaker 3>a nice little play of.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, how about this, Mark, I got to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>a semi personal question. You don't have to give a name.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever dated assistance before?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take the fifth on this because, uh well

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<v Speaker 2>it's a simple question yes or no.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's it's rude if you're in a relationship to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about previous least.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we don't say what did you do? We didn't

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<v Speaker 2>ask you how long did you date that you were

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<v Speaker 2>you in love with? They just said have you I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, act like this is your neighbor or something. We

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<v Speaker 3>gotta look at the time, We gotta do the news. No, No,

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<v Speaker 3>we can wait, we can wait and we help the privilege.

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<v Speaker 3>I can talk about t Walla's middle names some more.

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<v Speaker 3>I that's a little too personal. So t Walla's middle

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<v Speaker 3>name isn't too personal. But you're dating history, which is

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<v Speaker 3>my history. Is that is exactly correct. I'm glad you

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<v Speaker 3>understand that. And now it's time for the news. KFIM

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<v Speaker 3>six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back, we'll talk about the LA Community

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<v Speaker 1>Colleges which will be testing out guaranteed basic income.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 5>kfi AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>The Los Angeles Community College District LACCD announced yesterday that

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<v Speaker 1>it has selected two hundred and fifty students to receive

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand dollars each month for a year. The program

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<v Speaker 1>is called boost Building Outstanding Opportunities for Students to Thrive.

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<v Speaker 1>The stated goal is to help students who have struggled

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<v Speaker 1>to make ends meet not to have to choose between

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<v Speaker 1>finishing their degrees or working to put food on the

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<v Speaker 1>table or pay rent. The only caveat is that all

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<v Speaker 1>student participants are interested in health care specifically. Other than

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<v Speaker 1>that there are no strings attached to the payments In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the money has been set aside for the researchers,

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<v Speaker 1>some five hundred thousand dollars of donated funds, and that

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<v Speaker 1>will be used to evaluate the effectiveness of the program

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<v Speaker 1>through various means. And I know when we ever talk

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<v Speaker 1>about universal basic income or any type of program like this,

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<v Speaker 1>people say, well, where does the money come from? And

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<v Speaker 1>that's fair, that's fair to be concerned about that. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me give you some of that information. About three dollars

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<v Speaker 1>three excuse me, three million dollars from the Edith and

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<v Speaker 1>Eli Broade Foundation is being used. In nearly nine hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars from the California Community Foundation are being used.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is not to be confused with the guaranteed

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<v Speaker 1>basic income programs that we've talked about here from the

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<v Speaker 1>city of La or the one that La County has.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something that's completely different and is not directly

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<v Speaker 1>tied to i'll say a specific city or county or

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<v Speaker 1>municipality in regard to this. This is specifically the Los

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles Community College District. And if you just talk to people,

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<v Speaker 1>the response that I usually hear, the feeling that I

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<v Speaker 1>usually receive is people are.

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<v Speaker 2>Against universal basic income.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you look at the science of it, when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the history of it being used around

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<v Speaker 1>the country, and I know it's been used in Stockton

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<v Speaker 1>and other places upstate, it has been beneficial.

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<v Speaker 2>It has actually worked.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, if you're asking how I personally feel about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that this is an inevitability. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>Mark probably knows something about this, if only because he's

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<v Speaker 1>a Star Trek nerd. And if you know Star Treks

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<v Speaker 1>Star Trek in the future, they've done away with money credits, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So there has to be some sort of look to

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<v Speaker 1>big picture. I honestly believe as we talk about automation,

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<v Speaker 1>as we talk about AI, as we talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>loss of jobs which will not be here in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years, and I always use the example, Hey, once

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<v Speaker 1>upon a time, there were elevator operators, there were long

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<v Speaker 1>distance operators, there were traffic light operators. There are all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of people doing jobs which simply do not exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>That is always going to be the case, because businesses

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<v Speaker 1>are going to try to get rid of employees, They're

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to limit their expenses, and eventually, eventually

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to a point where there will not be

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<v Speaker 1>enough jobs for people. That's part of the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>you see these universal basic income programs, because they see

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<v Speaker 1>as I see, after a certain point, thanks capitalism, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pink ocami here, Because of capitalism, it gets to be

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<v Speaker 1>statistically impossible for everyone to have a job. As much

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<v Speaker 1>as we are concerned about unemployment, as much as we

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<v Speaker 1>want to incentivize work, there won't be enough jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>There simply will not be.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you remember just in recent when I say

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<v Speaker 1>recent years, like going back to the Great Recession, you

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<v Speaker 1>had people with multiple degrees.

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<v Speaker 2>Who couldn't even get a job in fast food.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a shrinking labor opportunity for most people, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why you're seeing more and more of these universal basic

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<v Speaker 1>income programs. I don't know what America will look like

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<v Speaker 1>from a lab labor standpoint in next thirty years, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe you will find universal basic income being

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<v Speaker 1>used in more than just.

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<v Speaker 2>A few cities.

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<v Speaker 4>I read a lot of economics, like I've mentioned before,

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<v Speaker 4>because you have formal schooling in that and I don't,

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<v Speaker 4>so I think I have to try extra hard to

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<v Speaker 4>keep current with that stuff. And to my knowledge, no

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<v Speaker 4>experiment in UBI has failed. They've all been successful. Not one,

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<v Speaker 4>you are correct, not one. It is politically unpopular because

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<v Speaker 4>for some reason, people just can't stand the idea of

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<v Speaker 4>other people getting what they perceive to be free things,

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<v Speaker 4>while they ignore all sorts of other free things that

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<v Speaker 4>other people get.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>When you have people who are either out of work

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<v Speaker 2>For everyone everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>If you think that someone not having a job doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>impact you, then you should study more economics because inevitably

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<v Speaker 2>There are going to be jobs that robots are going

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<v Speaker 1>There are gonna be jobs which AI is going to

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<v Speaker 1>always talk about how expensive it is to raise minimum wage,

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<v Speaker 1>hotel or a hospitality employee. Well, this is how businesses

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<v Speaker 1>then the question becomes what do these people do? And

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<v Speaker 1>you'll find after a certain point that our economy will

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<v Speaker 1>just math. I'm not talking about today. I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five years from now. It is simply math.

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<v Speaker 1>You actually think someone working the fries that job is

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we've pulled back on the whole idea of self

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<v Speaker 1>checkouts in grocery stores, but we could get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>all those cashier jobs tomorrow if we really wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>They may not like the idea of not actually handing

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<v Speaker 1>because we think, well, I'm paying for it, someone else

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<v Speaker 1>should do it. But we don't need those actual jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>We're choosing grocery stores are choosing to keep those jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're not going to be here forever. The whole

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<v Speaker 1>theater concessionaire, those jobs will be gone. And usually the

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<v Speaker 1>jobs which disappear most are the least skilled minimum wage jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're going back to the story about LA

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<v Speaker 1>Community colleges, young people nineteen twenty years old trying to

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember several years back, the United States government

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because they wanted to have like physical money.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they wanted physical money they thought they needed and

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<v Speaker 3>everyone had all types of reasons why that would never work.

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<v Speaker 3>You can never get rid of physical money. And the

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<v Speaker 3>government was like, no, this digital currency plan. These ideas

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<v Speaker 3>work in other countries where you're able to move away

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<v Speaker 3>from cash and we're able to then increase the amount

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<v Speaker 3>of credits or whatever in the country. But if you

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<v Speaker 3>go to the tech convention in Vegas, you would have

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<v Speaker 3>seen all of the robotic and AI developments that are

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<v Speaker 3>coming our way that you say twenty years Oh no, sir,

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<v Speaker 3>we're looking at five ten years. With how fast things

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<v Speaker 3>are moving, they had a robotic front desk employee that

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<v Speaker 3>Hotels and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff like this is about to be done.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about digital currency, try to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>end to it Dome and spend cash. It's completely cashless.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's where we're moving. If you think about

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<v Speaker 1>automation and the ease of which that you can make

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<v Speaker 1>or perform the transaction.

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<v Speaker 2>These jobs are going away.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many people did not have a

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<v Speaker 1>job for them at into it Dome because they physically

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<v Speaker 1>weren't needed. You know, you have someone who's taking your

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<v Speaker 1>phone and scanning it, but those jobs aren't essential anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And you'll find it more and more as this country

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<v Speaker 1>becomes more better acquainted and more comfortable with this type

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<v Speaker 1>of technology. We're not going back, not in a technological sense,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not. And you're going to find more and more

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<v Speaker 1>universal basic income and you'll find a Mars point that

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<v Speaker 1>they will continue to be successful, and you will find

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<v Speaker 1>that this is something that the country will adopt at

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<v Speaker 1>some point because otherwise our unemployment will become astronomical and

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<v Speaker 1>there won't be an answer for it. I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>it sucks if it doesn't meet your political beliefs, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's still coming.

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<v Speaker 4>But you're right, it's about math. If a corporation doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>want to pay people enough to live, and those people

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<v Speaker 4>don't have the basic etiquette to just go off and

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<v Speaker 4>die someplace, you gotta do something well.

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<v Speaker 3>Keeping the job is not going to be one of

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<v Speaker 3>those options, right exactly. It's still people you have to

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<v Speaker 3>deal with. They still have to live. Unless you know.

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<v Speaker 2>How dark you want to get, right, I'm getting real dark.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll look at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Too many miles to feed. Come on, Thanos, It's Later

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<v Speaker 1>with mo Kelly Cay. If I am since forty live

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KI.

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<v Speaker 1>Dunkin Donuts or they just call it Duncin now Bringing

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<v Speaker 1>Back is popular free donut Wednesdays, So each Wednesday through Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>Dunkin Rewards members can get a free classic donut with

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<v Speaker 1>any beverage purchase. It's kind of backwards for me if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to Dunkin donuts. I'm buying the donut. The

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<v Speaker 1>whole point of going to Duncan is the donut. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people say they go there for the coffee. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>met those people yet. I'm going to buy the donut,

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<v Speaker 1>so I should get a free donut with the purchase

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<v Speaker 1>of a donut.

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<v Speaker 2>It's too bad. Richie's not here. Is he one of them?

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's mister Duncan Coffee. Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>The only time I had Dunkin coffee I was in

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<v Speaker 1>Bathlona in Spain, and donuts and coffee are a big

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<v Speaker 1>thing in Spain. I didn't have anything else there really

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't anything that they're offering the drinks, not that they're

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<v Speaker 1>offering milk or anything like that. So I had Dunkin

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<v Speaker 1>donut and coffee there. Donuts and coffee, that's a big thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't drink coffee, but in Spain i was because

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<v Speaker 1>there was really nothing else to get. So, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>not in Spain. It's weird, the whole coffee fixation out here.

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<v Speaker 1>What it's weird. It's not weird, it's strange. Dunkin rules

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<v Speaker 1>the East Coast too, Yes it does, Yes, yes it does.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all we had them DC. Yes, Duncan, definitely. But

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to the free donut Wednesdays, it's still Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not too late.

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<v Speaker 1>Duncan Rewards members can enjoy other holiday offers each week

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<v Speaker 1>through the Duncin app. Be clear has to be through

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<v Speaker 1>the Duncan app until the end of the calendar year

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<v Speaker 1>November nineteenth through the twenty fifth. It's to twenty so

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<v Speaker 1>it's just underway. You can get the three dollars hash

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<v Speaker 1>brown brisket scramble.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know they're doing breakfast food at Duncan.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that sounds pretty good. Yes, you's Duncan. They do

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<v Speaker 3>all type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I never been to one. I don't know what's one

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<v Speaker 1>that's near to me. I have to actually look it

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<v Speaker 1>up because I don't know where a Dunkin Donuts is.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a winches down the street from me in this

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<v Speaker 1>whole horrible mark. Does one not far from where you live?

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta try that?

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<v Speaker 2>Then? That sounds really good?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>How about this?

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<v Speaker 1>From November twenty sixth through December second, they have to

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<v Speaker 1>for just one dollar.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's in the wake up wrap. I

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea. It sounds good. You can get you

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<v Speaker 2>can need to get sausage. I think bacon. Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 2>good to wrap my breakfast food.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Stephani, get Ready're gonna have to leave the show

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<v Speaker 1>and get us all some food.

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<v Speaker 2>But I brought food. The hell?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, that's right. I'm doing a show here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have time to look out what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the hall. This is for tomorrow, good enough. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it won't be Wednesday tomorrow. That's the problem. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>December third through December ninth, Medium hot or ice, signature

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<v Speaker 1>latte latte yum. Yeah, you can't get into this. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>please double frack. But mocha dente latte, foam and milk.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why do you hate America? I hate everything that's

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<v Speaker 1>complicated about coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>Give it to me mainline.

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<v Speaker 1>December tenth, of the sixteenth, one dollar off a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five count munchkins donut hole treats are a half dozen donuts.

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<v Speaker 2>I love me some munchkins. Yes, give me that.

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<v Speaker 1>That coffee game over there, Give me some munchkins all day,

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<v Speaker 1>Just pop them in my mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>December seventeenth, the twenty third two dollars medium hot chocolate.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was growing up, I enjoyed hot chocolate. How

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<v Speaker 1>expensive is the regular? Probably like seven dollars or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, two dollars. Look, I'll get some Swiss

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<v Speaker 1>miss out of the cabinet in the kitchen and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>good to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Smiss, you never had Swiss miss? Oh? I love Swiss.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark was looking incredulous.

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<v Speaker 4>So I wasn't sure you never heard of it? Well, no,

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't had it since I was a child. Oh

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<v Speaker 4>my god, just like this and Pixar movies. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>Hot chocolate. You're saying is for kids? Is that what

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<v Speaker 4>I was racking my brain trained to think of the

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<v Speaker 4>right booze to pour into hot chocolate, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think that works. I've never no, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been mixed any liquor with hot shop. There are there

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<v Speaker 1>are a couple of different adult hot chocolate beverages. There's

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like true I don't like milkish substances and

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<v Speaker 1>liquor like I'm not gonna have a black rush.

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<v Speaker 2>You can have it. You don't have to have creamy

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, December twenty fourth to the thirtieth two dollars order

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<v Speaker 1>of ten count Munchkin donut hold treats. So on December

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<v Speaker 1>tenth to the sixteenth you get one dollars off of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five count and December twenty fourth through the thirties

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<v Speaker 1>you get two dollars off excuse me, two dollars order

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<v Speaker 1>of ten count munchkins.

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh, hot chocolate whiskey spiked hot chocolate with uh with rum.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never had liquor and milk Bailey's and hot chocolate

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<v Speaker 3>I never had.

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<v Speaker 1>that regard. I'm strange in many regards, but that is

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<v Speaker 1>and milk. You've never had a white Russian, never had

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<v Speaker 1>a white Russian. I do not like eggnog, for example.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not like the milk, dairy ish and liquor, Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing. The closest thing to it would

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<v Speaker 1>be a pina colada. That's about the only exception I

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<v Speaker 1>can think of.

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<v Speaker 4>You have never sat through The Big Lebowski and thought, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>that sounds kind of good.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I have one of that, and I love the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I No, I just have no desire whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>I like straight liquor. Give me some bourbon neat Happy

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<v Speaker 1>Man for breakfast. No, I don't think I've ever had

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<v Speaker 1>a drink before noon in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're if it's the weekend, A few things are

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<v Speaker 4>more enjoyable than the little little Bailey's in your coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, not a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you said you never have alcohol in the morning,

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<v Speaker 3>mister Ronner, you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Not cross examined. Let's pull out the transcript.

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<v Speaker 1>But all of a sudden, the deposition, All of a sudden, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's have some Baileyes in the morning. Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not a frequent occurrence, but on the rare occasion

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<v Speaker 4>that it happens, I enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me intervene on Mark's behalf. What he means is,

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<v Speaker 1>since he leaves here after midnight, in theory, any liquor

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<v Speaker 1>he has after that point is in the morning, so

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<v Speaker 1>it really doesn't count.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's later with Kelly I Am six forty Live everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app Now we're going to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back about the Santa Ana mayor who's

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<v Speaker 1>proposed as ordinance to come back homelessness.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if it's gonna work. Probably not, but we'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you about it.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 5>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to try to connect some dots here. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked about universal basic income earlier in the show. We've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the refusal of voters to implement any type

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<v Speaker 1>of control in previous shows. We've talked about homelessness time

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<v Speaker 1>and time again, and for some reason, I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>why people don't see the connective tissue through all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want homelessness, You don't want people living on

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<v Speaker 1>the streets, But you also don't want rent control. And

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<v Speaker 1>people not being able to pay their rent is directly connected,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least in a result, since it's directly connected

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<v Speaker 1>to ending up homeless, you don't want people to have

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<v Speaker 1>any type of universal basic income. All of these things

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<v Speaker 1>are related. Even though we can all say to a

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<v Speaker 1>person we need to do something about the homeless population.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't have people just living on the street we

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<v Speaker 1>can't have people living in parks, We can't have people

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping in cars and sleeping in RVs. Well, all these

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<v Speaker 1>things are connected, that said. Santa Ana mayor has proposed

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<v Speaker 1>an ordinance to crack down on homeless encampments. Santa Ana

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor Valerie Mesco proposed yesterday this new ordinance, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to take stronger actions against these encampments.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want you defecating on our streets. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to assault our children in our community. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>want you injecting drugs on our bus stops. We need

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<v Speaker 1>to clean up our city. Close quote. I agree with

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<v Speaker 1>all that. I'm in support of all that. In any

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<v Speaker 1>proposed ordinance, my questions are always the same. You can

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<v Speaker 1>be tougher on homelessness and homeless encampment means, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you're just moving them from A to B, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>just shuffling them around the city, then you're not really

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<v Speaker 1>actually doing anything to positively impact that homelessness situation. According

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<v Speaker 1>to Mayor Valerie Mesqua, the enforcement would prioritize schools, parks,

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<v Speaker 1>and residential areas well. What does that mean, Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>ordinance says it would ban sleeping intents, public restrooms, on

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<v Speaker 1>benches or in cars. It would also restrict staying at

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<v Speaker 1>the civic center or a public park between ten pm

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<v Speaker 1>and six am. It additionally would block access to buildings

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<v Speaker 1>and sidewalks.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a problem with any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>My question, and it's not really a problem, is my

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<v Speaker 1>question is when someone is in violation of that realistically,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you going to do? What can you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to arrest them and take them? Where

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<v Speaker 1>are they not going to be able to make bail?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to cite them? Are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>find them? How are they going to pay the fine?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you going to send the citation? In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>what is on the other side of the violation of

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<v Speaker 1>the ordnance. Santa Anna, mayor of Mescua, also said that

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<v Speaker 1>the city has two shelters, which holds about six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>beds combined, but according to the latest figures, Santa Anna

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<v Speaker 1>has about nine hundred homeless people living within the Santa

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<v Speaker 1>Anna boundaries. Basic math, more than two hundred people would

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<v Speaker 1>be homeless by that measure. So I'm all four getting

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<v Speaker 1>tougher on homelessness. I just and this is I know

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sounding like Mark Ronner right now, you still have

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with the fact that these are human beings.

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<v Speaker 1>What an eradicating homelessness doesn't mean that you get to

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<v Speaker 1>eradicate people. And if you're getting tougher on homelessness and

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, you can't sleep here, you can't sleep there,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do this, you can't do this, and I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with all that, but then what then what you

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<v Speaker 1>already know you don't have enough temporary beds for the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of homeless people.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you going to arrest them?

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<v Speaker 4>Then?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna drop them off outside the homeless shelter

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<v Speaker 1>so they can sleep outside the homeless shelter where we

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<v Speaker 1>know mathematically they cannot be accommodated. And I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>homeless people sleeping in the parks. I don't want them

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping on the sidewalks. I'm in agreement with you. I

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<v Speaker 1>just have yet to hear what happens to the people

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<v Speaker 1>after you pick them up and move them from the park.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>And no one seems to want to answer that question.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know part of this is in response to

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<v Speaker 1>what Governor Newsom said, you can't have state funding unless

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<v Speaker 1>you get tougher on homelessness.

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<v Speaker 2>I get all that.

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<v Speaker 1>I see the politics and how this is playing out,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that a lot of these responses are

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<v Speaker 1>because of Gavin Newsom not pushing that aside.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying we're not serious.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying we really don't want to deal with homelessness.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want to see homeless people, and those are

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<v Speaker 1>two different things. We don't want want to see homeless people,

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<v Speaker 1>but we damn sure don't want to do anything about

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<v Speaker 1>escalating rent. But we also want to complain about the

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<v Speaker 1>high cost of rent, but we don't want to do

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<v Speaker 1>anything about it vs.

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<v Speaker 2>V rent control.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want people to be unemployed, but we also

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to make sure that they have any type

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<v Speaker 1>of universal basic income.

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<v Speaker 2>We want it to have it always all.

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<v Speaker 1>The time, and be mad about everything and not be

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<v Speaker 1>solution oriented.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want people sleeping out in front of my house.

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<v Speaker 2>I am with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want them sleeping on the sidewalk or sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>in the parks.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want people just meandering about, possibly being on

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<v Speaker 1>drugs and out of their mind. And I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a target I don't want to be a victim.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we just agree on all those things and get

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<v Speaker 1>past that and realize that just because we have a

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<v Speaker 1>tough for ordinance, it doesn't mean they's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>fewer homeless people. It just means you might not see

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<v Speaker 1>them on your block for a given week. But the

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<v Speaker 1>people in the homeless people phraseology, they still exist.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate sounded like Mark Ronner, I really do, kisses

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<v Speaker 2>me off.

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<v Speaker 4>We need who's the magician who made large things disappear?

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<v Speaker 3>Doug Hitting, David Copperfield, No, no, no, no, Doug Henning

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<v Speaker 3>did the elephant.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a deep cut. I like Doug Henning. We need

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<v Speaker 4>Doug Henning just to make them disappear. That's it, And honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>that's what people want. They don't give a damn about

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<v Speaker 4>the person. They only care about the unsightly nature of homelessness.

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<v Speaker 4>And until we have that conversation, then will never ever

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<v Speaker 4>make any headway with homelessness because we have to deal

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<v Speaker 4>with the root causes and some of the contributing factors,

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<v Speaker 4>not just that they're homeless, but what led to people

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<v Speaker 4>becoming homeless.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't complain and moan about oh my gosh, the

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<v Speaker 1>economy is so horrible. It's just so bad, and the

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<v Speaker 1>rent is so high, and out the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>your mouth saying well, we got to do something about

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<v Speaker 1>the homeless.

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<v Speaker 2>These are all connected.

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<v Speaker 1>These are all related, and until we start having that

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<v Speaker 1>honest conversation, we're not going to get anywhere. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter the ordinance, it doesn't matter the law, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter the manner of enforcement, because you haven't started looking

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<v Speaker 1>at these individuals as actual people and dealing with the people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's later with mo Kelly k if I am six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>We are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app Talk Without the.

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<v Speaker 5>Tilt KSI and the KOST HD two Los Angeles, Orange

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<v Speaker 2>Live everywhere on the radio,
