Speaker 1: It's later with Moke Kelly ca If I Am since
Speaker 1: forty one live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and we
Speaker 1: have a huge show for you tonight, so much to cover.
Speaker 1: We'll tell you about how the LA Community colleges are
Speaker 1: going to test out guaranteed basic income and see where
Speaker 1: that leads. And if you're a donuts fan like I am,
Speaker 1: and I love me a donut, you bring a donut
Speaker 1: to the office, I'm probably gonna eat one to eight
Speaker 1: or nine of them. Well, Dunkin Donuts Free Wednesdays are here,
Speaker 1: and not only will you get a free donut, it's
Speaker 1: not too late for today, but they also have some
Speaker 1: free offerings in the coming as we go through the holidays.
Speaker 1: We'll tell you about how the Santa Anna Mayor has
Speaker 1: proposed an ordinance to combat homelessness. You know how I
Speaker 1: feel about that. It may be well intentioned, I'm not
Speaker 1: so sure about the execution of it and whether it
Speaker 1: actually changes anything. But most importantly, the most important story
Speaker 1: of the day is this twenty five years or so ago.
Speaker 1: Tawala Sharp was born on this day, sometime in the
Speaker 1: late nineties.
Speaker 2: I think he was born. When were you born? Late nineties? Yes,
Speaker 2: I love that. Let's go with that. Late nineties.
Speaker 1: Yes, today is the birthday of none other than the
Speaker 1: producer of Later with mo Kelly informally and previously The
Speaker 1: mo Kelly Show.
Speaker 2: Twala. What's your middle name?
Speaker 3: It's Twala? Now what's your middle name? You'll never find out?
Speaker 3: Oh god, it's okay, I.
Speaker 2: Didn't I know. It's okay.
Speaker 3: What's your middle name? Yes, Twala, yes Sharp, let's go
Speaker 3: with that. Twala Sharp. How bad could it possibly be?
Speaker 2: Come? I can't be It's yeah, we're fine. Okay.
Speaker 1: So you look, my wife does not have a middle name.
Speaker 1: She literally does not. I've seen her birth certificate, I've
Speaker 1: seen her driver license. She does not have a middle name. You,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, you do have a middle on
Speaker 1: my birth certificate, it says to Walla Sharp. I don't
Speaker 1: believe them it. So are you letting that you don't
Speaker 1: have one? Are you saying that you just don't want
Speaker 1: to tell us that you have?
Speaker 3: I am saying, as I became a UH certified and
Speaker 3: naturalized American citizen when I swore allegiance to this country
Speaker 3: under death or perjury, I said, just put Toala Sharp.
Speaker 2: Oh so you weren't born with that.
Speaker 3: You're lying now, No, no, no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 3: I was born with that. But but you'll never know
Speaker 3: what the middle name ever was. You know your mom
Speaker 3: listens to that ship.
Speaker 2: I know, I know.
Speaker 1: No I can email her saying I think I should
Speaker 1: email your mama and find out the truth. There's no
Speaker 1: truth to be heard.
Speaker 2: No, we need to know this, we need to know that.
Speaker 2: And so here's the beautiful thing.
Speaker 3: Here's the beautiful thing, right, Because my mother does not
Speaker 3: like me talking about her on the radio. She doesn't
Speaker 3: like us posting anything on social media, no photos, no nothing,
Speaker 3: leave her out of all that. She would never divulge
Speaker 3: anything about me. But well, no, no, we're not talking
Speaker 3: about her, no, because she knows, hey, the exact same
Speaker 3: courtesy I give you by keeping you off of social media.
Speaker 2: Even in mother's.
Speaker 3: Day, she would extend to say to me like, yes,
Speaker 3: no one needs to know your middle name.
Speaker 1: Wait, look at the time, can I ask her to
Speaker 1: at least have her tell me this instead of taking
Speaker 1: your word for it. No, you can't even ask her that.
Speaker 1: So that means, I guess all we can do is
Speaker 1: just like tell you happy birthday.
Speaker 2: That's it. Sallet we don't want that.
Speaker 1: Okay, there's a rumor going around that you made some
Speaker 1: of your legendary gumbo for the show tonight.
Speaker 2: As it is now tradition.
Speaker 3: On my birthday, I made gumbo for the crew and
Speaker 3: it is stellar.
Speaker 2: I have to say it myself. Stellar.
Speaker 1: For people who may not be familiar with the idea
Speaker 1: or concept of gumbo, how would you describe it?
Speaker 3: Gumbo is a almost akin to a gravy in which
Speaker 3: you season really, really well and add in all types
Speaker 3: of ingredients in mine today. I didn't want to say
Speaker 3: yesterday because I wanted you all to experience it when
Speaker 3: the crew tasted. But but it is chocked for there's so
Speaker 3: much crab in it. I almost couldn't fit it all
Speaker 3: in the pot. There's at least like four or five
Speaker 3: pounds of snow crab crab meat. There is okra corn
Speaker 3: tomato oh Mark has never had before.
Speaker 2: There is sausage galore. Mark.
Speaker 1: If you're actually on your way to becoming a black man,
Speaker 1: you need to have okra in your life at some point,
Speaker 1: and that's tonight you have.
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, I just put it in gumbo of
Speaker 4: my own stuff like that good Man Jumbalaya that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Jumbalai, you're you're you're warm.
Speaker 3: You got it? Am I still half black? That's why, Yes,
Speaker 3: you're not.
Speaker 1: Completely black, because you don't know about fried Okra.
Speaker 2: I'm on the way.
Speaker 4: I'll be fully one black someday as soon as Twala
Speaker 4: releases his middle name.
Speaker 2: Well, you may not ever get there.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, there's other ways. There's other ways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can call the government. Well I'm not I
Speaker 2: will not the.
Speaker 3: Way about other ways from Mark to Oh, give you
Speaker 3: a nice little play of.
Speaker 1: Okay, how about this, Mark, I got to ask you
Speaker 1: a semi personal question. You don't have to give a name.
Speaker 1: Have you ever dated assistance before?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the fifth on this because, uh well
Speaker 2: it's a simple question yes or no.
Speaker 4: Well, it's it's rude if you're in a relationship to
Speaker 4: talk about previous least.
Speaker 2: No, we don't say what did you do? We didn't
Speaker 2: ask you how long did you date that you were
Speaker 2: you in love with? They just said have you I.
Speaker 3: Mean, act like this is your neighbor or something. We
Speaker 3: gotta look at the time, We gotta do the news. No, No,
Speaker 3: we can wait, we can wait and we help the privilege.
Speaker 3: I can talk about t Walla's middle names some more.
Speaker 3: I that's a little too personal. So t Walla's middle
Speaker 3: name isn't too personal. But you're dating history, which is
Speaker 3: my history. Is that is exactly correct. I'm glad you
Speaker 3: understand that. And now it's time for the news. KFIM
Speaker 3: six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll talk about the LA Community
Speaker 1: Colleges which will be testing out guaranteed basic income.
Speaker 5: You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 5: kfi AM six forty.
Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Community College District LACCD announced yesterday that
Speaker 1: it has selected two hundred and fifty students to receive
Speaker 1: one thousand dollars each month for a year. The program
Speaker 1: is called boost Building Outstanding Opportunities for Students to Thrive.
Speaker 1: The stated goal is to help students who have struggled
Speaker 1: to make ends meet not to have to choose between
Speaker 1: finishing their degrees or working to put food on the
Speaker 1: table or pay rent. The only caveat is that all
Speaker 1: student participants are interested in health care specifically. Other than
Speaker 1: that there are no strings attached to the payments In fact,
Speaker 1: some of the money has been set aside for the researchers,
Speaker 1: some five hundred thousand dollars of donated funds, and that
Speaker 1: will be used to evaluate the effectiveness of the program
Speaker 1: through various means. And I know when we ever talk
Speaker 1: about universal basic income or any type of program like this,
Speaker 1: people say, well, where does the money come from? And
Speaker 1: that's fair, that's fair to be concerned about that. Let
Speaker 1: me give you some of that information. About three dollars
Speaker 1: three excuse me, three million dollars from the Edith and
Speaker 1: Eli Broade Foundation is being used. In nearly nine hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars from the California Community Foundation are being used.
Speaker 1: And this is not to be confused with the guaranteed
Speaker 1: basic income programs that we've talked about here from the
Speaker 1: city of La or the one that La County has.
Speaker 1: This is something that's completely different and is not directly
Speaker 1: tied to i'll say a specific city or county or
Speaker 1: municipality in regard to this. This is specifically the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Community College District. And if you just talk to people,
Speaker 1: the response that I usually hear, the feeling that I
Speaker 1: usually receive is people are.
Speaker 2: Against universal basic income.
Speaker 1: But when you look at the science of it, when
Speaker 1: you look at the history of it being used around
Speaker 1: the country, and I know it's been used in Stockton
Speaker 1: and other places upstate, it has been beneficial.
Speaker 2: It has actually worked.
Speaker 1: Now, if you're asking how I personally feel about it,
Speaker 1: I think that this is an inevitability. And I know
Speaker 1: Mark probably knows something about this, if only because he's
Speaker 1: a Star Trek nerd. And if you know Star Treks
Speaker 1: Star Trek in the future, they've done away with money credits, right,
Speaker 1: So there has to be some sort of look to
Speaker 1: big picture. I honestly believe as we talk about automation,
Speaker 1: as we talk about AI, as we talk about the
Speaker 1: loss of jobs which will not be here in twenty
Speaker 1: thirty years, and I always use the example, Hey, once
Speaker 1: upon a time, there were elevator operators, there were long
Speaker 1: distance operators, there were traffic light operators. There are all
Speaker 1: sorts of people doing jobs which simply do not exist anymore.
Speaker 1: That is always going to be the case, because businesses
Speaker 1: are going to try to get rid of employees, They're
Speaker 1: going to try to limit their expenses, and eventually, eventually
Speaker 1: we'll get to a point where there will not be
Speaker 1: enough jobs for people. That's part of the reason why
Speaker 1: you see these universal basic income programs, because they see
Speaker 1: as I see, after a certain point, thanks capitalism, you know,
Speaker 1: pink ocami here, Because of capitalism, it gets to be
Speaker 1: statistically impossible for everyone to have a job. As much
Speaker 1: as we are concerned about unemployment, as much as we
Speaker 1: want to incentivize work, there won't be enough jobs.
Speaker 2: There simply will not be.
Speaker 1: And if you remember just in recent when I say
Speaker 1: recent years, like going back to the Great Recession, you
Speaker 1: had people with multiple degrees.
Speaker 2: Who couldn't even get a job in fast food.
Speaker 1: There's a shrinking labor opportunity for most people, and that's
Speaker 1: why you're seeing more and more of these universal basic
Speaker 1: income programs. I don't know what America will look like
Speaker 1: from a lab labor standpoint in next thirty years, but
Speaker 1: I do believe you will find universal basic income being
Speaker 1: used in more than just.
Speaker 2: A few cities.
Speaker 4: I read a lot of economics, like I've mentioned before,
Speaker 4: because you have formal schooling in that and I don't,
Speaker 4: so I think I have to try extra hard to
Speaker 4: keep current with that stuff. And to my knowledge, no
Speaker 4: experiment in UBI has failed. They've all been successful. Not one,
Speaker 4: you are correct, not one. It is politically unpopular because
Speaker 4: for some reason, people just can't stand the idea of
Speaker 4: other people getting what they perceive to be free things,
Speaker 4: while they ignore all sorts of other free things that
Speaker 4: other people get.
Speaker 2: And here's the problem.
Speaker 1: When you have people who are either out of work
Speaker 1: or financially unable to keep up, it creates problems.
Speaker 2: For everyone everyone.
Speaker 1: If you think that someone not having a job doesn't
Speaker 1: impact you, then you should study more economics because inevitably
Speaker 1: it will impact you on varying levels. I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you we are moving in this direction, whether we as
Speaker 1: a country like it or not.
Speaker 2: There are going to be jobs that robots are going
Speaker 2: to be doing.
Speaker 1: There are gonna be jobs which AI is going to
Speaker 1: be doing, and they just won't exist anymore. Because we
Speaker 1: always talk about how expensive it is to raise minimum wage,
Speaker 1: how expensive and difficult it is for businesses or restaurants
Speaker 1: to pay let's say thirty dollars an hour for a
Speaker 1: hotel or a hospitality employee. Well, this is how businesses
Speaker 1: are going to get around it. They're going to have
Speaker 1: some sort of technological advance, which means that you won't
Speaker 1: have to have that employee or that job anymore, and
Speaker 1: then the question becomes what do these people do? And
Speaker 1: you'll find after a certain point that our economy will
Speaker 1: not be able to support all of these workers. It's
Speaker 1: just math. I'm not talking about today. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five years from now. It is simply math.
Speaker 1: You actually think someone working the fries that job is
Speaker 1: going to be here in ten years?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Now we've pulled back on the whole idea of self
Speaker 1: checkouts in grocery stores, but we could get rid of
Speaker 1: all those cashier jobs tomorrow if we really wanted to.
Speaker 1: They may not like the idea of not actually handing
Speaker 1: our money to someone or having someone take our stuff
Speaker 1: out of the basket and putting it in a bag,
Speaker 1: because we think, well, I'm paying for it, someone else
Speaker 1: should do it. But we don't need those actual jobs.
Speaker 1: We're choosing grocery stores are choosing to keep those jobs,
Speaker 1: but they're not going to be here forever. The whole
Speaker 1: idea of a movie theater ticket taker or a movie
Speaker 1: theater concessionaire, those jobs will be gone. And usually the
Speaker 1: jobs which disappear most are the least skilled minimum wage jobs.
Speaker 1: And if you're going back to the story about LA
Speaker 1: Community colleges, young people nineteen twenty years old trying to
Speaker 1: get through college and then they have to make a
Speaker 1: decision between whether they're going to pay their rent or
Speaker 1: they're going to stay in school. Most people would pay
Speaker 1: their rent, maybe drop out of school. These programs are
Speaker 1: trying to offer ways and incentives for people to finish
Speaker 1: their education and move on, in this case to a
Speaker 1: health career.
Speaker 3: Do you remember several years back, the United States government
Speaker 3: tried to roll out that digital currency plan that everyone
Speaker 3: lost their minds over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they wanted to have like physical money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they wanted physical money they thought they needed and
Speaker 3: everyone had all types of reasons why that would never work.
Speaker 3: You can never get rid of physical money. And the
Speaker 3: government was like, no, this digital currency plan. These ideas
Speaker 3: work in other countries where you're able to move away
Speaker 3: from cash and we're able to then increase the amount
Speaker 3: of credits or whatever in the country. But if you
Speaker 3: go to the tech convention in Vegas, you would have
Speaker 3: seen all of the robotic and AI developments that are
Speaker 3: coming our way that you say twenty years Oh no, sir,
Speaker 3: we're looking at five ten years. With how fast things
Speaker 3: are moving, they had a robotic front desk employee that
Speaker 3: they're going to start trying to roll out to Hilton
Speaker 3: Hotels and things like that.
Speaker 2: Stuff like this is about to be done.
Speaker 1: You talk about digital currency, try to go to the
Speaker 1: end to it Dome and spend cash. It's completely cashless.
Speaker 1: You know, that's where we're moving. If you think about
Speaker 1: automation and the ease of which that you can make
Speaker 1: purchases and not need someone to actually take your money
Speaker 1: or perform the transaction.
Speaker 2: These jobs are going away.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many people did not have a
Speaker 1: job for them at into it Dome because they physically
Speaker 1: weren't needed. You know, you have someone who's taking your
Speaker 1: phone and scanning it, but those jobs aren't essential anymore.
Speaker 1: And you'll find it more and more as this country
Speaker 1: becomes more better acquainted and more comfortable with this type
Speaker 1: of technology. We're not going back, not in a technological sense,
Speaker 1: we're not. And you're going to find more and more
Speaker 1: universal basic income and you'll find a Mars point that
Speaker 1: they will continue to be successful, and you will find
Speaker 1: that this is something that the country will adopt at
Speaker 1: some point because otherwise our unemployment will become astronomical and
Speaker 1: there won't be an answer for it. I know it's
Speaker 1: it sucks if it doesn't meet your political beliefs, but
Speaker 1: it's still coming.
Speaker 4: But you're right, it's about math. If a corporation doesn't
Speaker 4: want to pay people enough to live, and those people
Speaker 4: don't have the basic etiquette to just go off and
Speaker 4: die someplace, you gotta do something well.
Speaker 3: Keeping the job is not going to be one of
Speaker 3: those options, right exactly. It's still people you have to
Speaker 3: deal with. They still have to live. Unless you know.
Speaker 2: How dark you want to get, right, I'm getting real dark.
Speaker 2: We'll look at the time.
Speaker 1: Too many miles to feed. Come on, Thanos, It's Later
Speaker 1: with mo Kelly Cay. If I am since forty live
Speaker 1: everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KI.
Speaker 1: Dunkin Donuts or they just call it Duncin now Bringing
Speaker 1: Back is popular free donut Wednesdays, So each Wednesday through Christmas,
Speaker 1: Dunkin Rewards members can get a free classic donut with
Speaker 1: any beverage purchase. It's kind of backwards for me if
Speaker 1: I'm going to Dunkin donuts. I'm buying the donut. The
Speaker 1: whole point of going to Duncan is the donut. Some
Speaker 1: people say they go there for the coffee. I haven't
Speaker 1: met those people yet. I'm going to buy the donut,
Speaker 1: so I should get a free donut with the purchase
Speaker 1: of a donut.
Speaker 2: It's too bad. Richie's not here. Is he one of them?
Speaker 2: He's he's mister Duncan Coffee. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: The only time I had Dunkin coffee I was in
Speaker 1: Bathlona in Spain, and donuts and coffee are a big
Speaker 1: thing in Spain. I didn't have anything else there really
Speaker 1: wasn't anything that they're offering the drinks, not that they're
Speaker 1: offering milk or anything like that. So I had Dunkin
Speaker 1: donut and coffee there. Donuts and coffee, that's a big thing.
Speaker 1: I don't drink coffee, but in Spain i was because
Speaker 1: there was really nothing else to get. So, but we're
Speaker 1: not in Spain. It's weird, the whole coffee fixation out here.
Speaker 1: What it's weird. It's not weird, it's strange. Dunkin rules
Speaker 1: the East Coast too, Yes it does, Yes, yes it does.
Speaker 1: It's all we had them DC. Yes, Duncan, definitely. But
Speaker 1: in addition to the free donut Wednesdays, it's still Wednesday.
Speaker 2: It's not too late.
Speaker 1: Duncan Rewards members can enjoy other holiday offers each week
Speaker 1: through the Duncin app. Be clear has to be through
Speaker 1: the Duncan app until the end of the calendar year
Speaker 1: November nineteenth through the twenty fifth. It's to twenty so
Speaker 1: it's just underway. You can get the three dollars hash
Speaker 1: brown brisket scramble.
Speaker 2: I don't know they're doing breakfast food at Duncan.
Speaker 3: Okay, that sounds pretty good. Yes, you's Duncan. They do
Speaker 3: all type of stuff.
Speaker 1: I never been to one. I don't know what's one
Speaker 1: that's near to me. I have to actually look it
Speaker 1: up because I don't know where a Dunkin Donuts is.
Speaker 1: There's a winches down the street from me in this
Speaker 1: whole horrible mark. Does one not far from where you live?
Speaker 1: I gotta try that?
Speaker 2: Then? That sounds really good?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: How about this?
Speaker 1: From November twenty sixth through December second, they have to
Speaker 1: buy one wake up rap and get a second wrap
Speaker 1: for just one dollar.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's in the wake up wrap. I
Speaker 2: have no idea. It sounds good. You can get you
Speaker 2: can need to get sausage. I think bacon. Yeah, they're
Speaker 2: good to wrap my breakfast food.
Speaker 1: Okay, Stephani, get Ready're gonna have to leave the show
Speaker 1: and get us all some food.
Speaker 2: But I brought food. The hell?
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, that's right. I'm doing a show here.
Speaker 1: I don't have time to look out what's going on
Speaker 1: in the hall. This is for tomorrow, good enough. I
Speaker 1: know it won't be Wednesday tomorrow. That's the problem. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: December third through December ninth, Medium hot or ice, signature
Speaker 1: latte latte yum. Yeah, you can't get into this. Yes,
Speaker 1: please double frack. But mocha dente latte, foam and milk.
Speaker 1: Why why do you hate America? I hate everything that's
Speaker 1: complicated about coffee.
Speaker 2: Give it to me mainline.
Speaker 1: December tenth, of the sixteenth, one dollar off a twenty
Speaker 1: five count munchkins donut hole treats are a half dozen donuts.
Speaker 2: I love me some munchkins. Yes, give me that.
Speaker 1: That coffee game over there, Give me some munchkins all day,
Speaker 1: Just pop them in my mouth.
Speaker 2: What are these words you're saying?
Speaker 1: December seventeenth, the twenty third two dollars medium hot chocolate.
Speaker 1: When I was growing up, I enjoyed hot chocolate. How
Speaker 1: expensive is the regular? Probably like seven dollars or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know, two dollars. Look, I'll get some Swiss
Speaker 1: miss out of the cabinet in the kitchen and I'm
Speaker 1: good to go.
Speaker 2: Smiss, you never had Swiss miss? Oh? I love Swiss.
Speaker 2: Mark was looking incredulous.
Speaker 4: So I wasn't sure you never heard of it? Well, no,
Speaker 4: I haven't had it since I was a child. Oh
Speaker 4: my god, just like this and Pixar movies. It's not
Speaker 4: for adults.
Speaker 1: Hot chocolate. You're saying is for kids? Is that what
Speaker 1: you're going with?
Speaker 4: I was racking my brain trained to think of the
Speaker 4: right booze to pour into hot chocolate, and I'm not
Speaker 4: sure what it had been.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think that works. I've never no, I've
Speaker 1: been mixed any liquor with hot shop. There are there
Speaker 1: are a couple of different adult hot chocolate beverages. There's
Speaker 1: a bunch.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: I don't like true I don't like milkish substances and
Speaker 1: liquor like I'm not gonna have a black rush.
Speaker 2: You can have it. You don't have to have creamy
Speaker 2: hot chocolate.
Speaker 1: Okay, December twenty fourth to the thirtieth two dollars order
Speaker 1: of ten count Munchkin donut hold treats. So on December
Speaker 1: tenth to the sixteenth you get one dollars off of
Speaker 1: twenty five count and December twenty fourth through the thirties
Speaker 1: you get two dollars off excuse me, two dollars order
Speaker 1: of ten count munchkins.
Speaker 3: Ooh, hot chocolate whiskey spiked hot chocolate with uh with rum.
Speaker 3: I've never had liquor and milk Bailey's and hot chocolate
Speaker 3: I never had.
Speaker 1: I never liked Bailey's anything. And maybe I'm strange in
Speaker 1: that regard. I'm strange in many regards, but that is
Speaker 1: you know, that's not my thing. I don't do liquor
Speaker 1: and milk. You've never had a white Russian, never had
Speaker 1: a white Russian. I do not like eggnog, for example.
Speaker 1: I do not like the milk, dairy ish and liquor, Sam,
Speaker 1: what are you doing. The closest thing to it would
Speaker 1: be a pina colada. That's about the only exception I
Speaker 1: can think of.
Speaker 4: You have never sat through The Big Lebowski and thought, Okay,
Speaker 4: that sounds kind of good.
Speaker 2: Now I have one of that, and I love the movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I No, I just have no desire whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I like straight liquor. Give me some bourbon neat Happy
Speaker 1: Man for breakfast. No, I don't think I've ever had
Speaker 1: a drink before noon in my life.
Speaker 4: If you're if it's the weekend, A few things are
Speaker 4: more enjoyable than the little little Bailey's in your coffee.
Speaker 2: Hold on, not a minute.
Speaker 3: No, you said you never have alcohol in the morning,
Speaker 3: mister Ronner, you're.
Speaker 2: Not cross examined. Let's pull out the transcript.
Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, the deposition, All of a sudden, Oh,
Speaker 1: let's have some Baileyes in the morning. Uh.
Speaker 4: It's not a frequent occurrence, but on the rare occasion
Speaker 4: that it happens, I enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Let me intervene on Mark's behalf. What he means is,
Speaker 1: since he leaves here after midnight, in theory, any liquor
Speaker 1: he has after that point is in the morning, so
Speaker 1: it really doesn't count.
Speaker 2: Thank you for that.
Speaker 1: It's later with Kelly I Am six forty Live everywhere
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app Now we're going to tell you
Speaker 1: when we come back about the Santa Ana mayor who's
Speaker 1: proposed as ordinance to come back homelessness.
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's gonna work. Probably not, but we'll
Speaker 2: tell you about it.
Speaker 5: You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 5: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to connect some dots here. We
Speaker 1: talked about universal basic income earlier in the show. We've
Speaker 1: talked about the refusal of voters to implement any type
Speaker 1: of control in previous shows. We've talked about homelessness time
Speaker 1: and time again, and for some reason, I don't understand
Speaker 1: why people don't see the connective tissue through all of that.
Speaker 1: You don't want homelessness, You don't want people living on
Speaker 1: the streets, But you also don't want rent control. And
Speaker 1: people not being able to pay their rent is directly connected,
Speaker 1: or at least in a result, since it's directly connected
Speaker 1: to ending up homeless, you don't want people to have
Speaker 1: any type of universal basic income. All of these things
Speaker 1: are related. Even though we can all say to a
Speaker 1: person we need to do something about the homeless population.
Speaker 1: We can't have people just living on the street we
Speaker 1: can't have people living in parks, We can't have people
Speaker 1: sleeping in cars and sleeping in RVs. Well, all these
Speaker 1: things are connected, that said. Santa Ana mayor has proposed
Speaker 1: an ordinance to crack down on homeless encampments. Santa Ana
Speaker 1: Mayor Valerie Mesco proposed yesterday this new ordinance, and it's
Speaker 1: supposed to take stronger actions against these encampments.
Speaker 2: Quote.
Speaker 1: We don't want you defecating on our streets. We don't
Speaker 1: want to assault our children in our community. We don't
Speaker 1: want you injecting drugs on our bus stops. We need
Speaker 1: to clean up our city. Close quote. I agree with
Speaker 1: all that. I'm in support of all that. In any
Speaker 1: proposed ordinance, my questions are always the same. You can
Speaker 1: be tougher on homelessness and homeless encampment means, but if
Speaker 1: you're just moving them from A to B, if you're
Speaker 1: just shuffling them around the city, then you're not really
Speaker 1: actually doing anything to positively impact that homelessness situation. According
Speaker 1: to Mayor Valerie Mesqua, the enforcement would prioritize schools, parks,
Speaker 1: and residential areas well. What does that mean, Well, the
Speaker 1: ordinance says it would ban sleeping intents, public restrooms, on
Speaker 1: benches or in cars. It would also restrict staying at
Speaker 1: the civic center or a public park between ten pm
Speaker 1: and six am. It additionally would block access to buildings
Speaker 1: and sidewalks.
Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with any of that.
Speaker 1: My question, and it's not really a problem, is my
Speaker 1: question is when someone is in violation of that realistically,
Speaker 1: what are you going to do? What can you do?
Speaker 1: Are you going to arrest them and take them? Where
Speaker 1: are they not going to be able to make bail?
Speaker 1: Are you going to cite them? Are you going to
Speaker 1: find them? How are they going to pay the fine?
Speaker 1: Where are you going to send the citation? In other words,
Speaker 1: what is on the other side of the violation of
Speaker 1: the ordnance. Santa Anna, mayor of Mescua, also said that
Speaker 1: the city has two shelters, which holds about six hundred
Speaker 1: beds combined, but according to the latest figures, Santa Anna
Speaker 1: has about nine hundred homeless people living within the Santa
Speaker 1: Anna boundaries. Basic math, more than two hundred people would
Speaker 1: be homeless by that measure. So I'm all four getting
Speaker 1: tougher on homelessness. I just and this is I know
Speaker 1: I'm sounding like Mark Ronner right now, you still have
Speaker 1: to deal with the fact that these are human beings.
Speaker 1: What an eradicating homelessness doesn't mean that you get to
Speaker 1: eradicate people. And if you're getting tougher on homelessness and
Speaker 1: you're saying, you can't sleep here, you can't sleep there,
Speaker 1: you can't do this, you can't do this, and I
Speaker 1: agree with all that, but then what then what you
Speaker 1: already know you don't have enough temporary beds for the
Speaker 1: amount of homeless people.
Speaker 2: Are you going to arrest them?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna drop them off outside the homeless shelter
Speaker 1: so they can sleep outside the homeless shelter where we
Speaker 1: know mathematically they cannot be accommodated. And I don't want
Speaker 1: homeless people sleeping in the parks. I don't want them
Speaker 1: sleeping on the sidewalks. I'm in agreement with you. I
Speaker 1: just have yet to hear what happens to the people
Speaker 1: after you pick them up and move them from the park.
Speaker 4: What do you do?
Speaker 1: And no one seems to want to answer that question.
Speaker 1: And I know part of this is in response to
Speaker 1: what Governor Newsom said, you can't have state funding unless
Speaker 1: you get tougher on homelessness.
Speaker 2: I get all that.
Speaker 1: I see the politics and how this is playing out,
Speaker 1: and I know that a lot of these responses are
Speaker 1: because of Gavin Newsom not pushing that aside.
Speaker 2: I'm saying we're not serious.
Speaker 1: I'm saying we really don't want to deal with homelessness.
Speaker 1: We don't want to see homeless people, and those are
Speaker 1: two different things. We don't want want to see homeless people,
Speaker 1: but we damn sure don't want to do anything about
Speaker 1: escalating rent. But we also want to complain about the
Speaker 1: high cost of rent, but we don't want to do
Speaker 1: anything about it vs.
Speaker 2: V rent control.
Speaker 1: We don't want people to be unemployed, but we also
Speaker 1: don't want to make sure that they have any type
Speaker 1: of universal basic income.
Speaker 2: We want it to have it always all.
Speaker 1: The time, and be mad about everything and not be
Speaker 1: solution oriented.
Speaker 2: I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I don't want people sleeping out in front of my house.
Speaker 2: I am with you.
Speaker 1: I don't want them sleeping on the sidewalk or sleeping
Speaker 1: in the parks.
Speaker 2: I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I don't want people just meandering about, possibly being on
Speaker 1: drugs and out of their mind. And I don't want
Speaker 1: to be a target I don't want to be a victim.
Speaker 1: Can we just agree on all those things and get
Speaker 1: past that and realize that just because we have a
Speaker 1: tough for ordinance, it doesn't mean they's going to be
Speaker 1: fewer homeless people. It just means you might not see
Speaker 1: them on your block for a given week. But the
Speaker 1: people in the homeless people phraseology, they still exist.
Speaker 2: I hate sounded like Mark Ronner, I really do, kisses
Speaker 2: me off.
Speaker 4: We need who's the magician who made large things disappear?
Speaker 3: Doug Hitting, David Copperfield, No, no, no, no, Doug Henning
Speaker 3: did the elephant.
Speaker 4: That's a deep cut. I like Doug Henning. We need
Speaker 4: Doug Henning just to make them disappear. That's it, And honestly,
Speaker 4: that's what people want. They don't give a damn about
Speaker 4: the person. They only care about the unsightly nature of homelessness.
Speaker 4: And until we have that conversation, then will never ever
Speaker 4: make any headway with homelessness because we have to deal
Speaker 4: with the root causes and some of the contributing factors,
Speaker 4: not just that they're homeless, but what led to people
Speaker 4: becoming homeless.
Speaker 1: You can't complain and moan about oh my gosh, the
Speaker 1: economy is so horrible. It's just so bad, and the
Speaker 1: rent is so high, and out the other side of
Speaker 1: your mouth saying well, we got to do something about
Speaker 1: the homeless.
Speaker 2: These are all connected.
Speaker 1: These are all related, and until we start having that
Speaker 1: honest conversation, we're not going to get anywhere. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter the ordinance, it doesn't matter the law, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter the manner of enforcement, because you haven't started looking
Speaker 1: at these individuals as actual people and dealing with the people.
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