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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of March seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 2>we're finishing up with A Man on the Inside, Season one,

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<v Speaker 2>episode eight, The Spy Who Came In from the Cold,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the first like not punny title.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it's just like an actual title.

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<v Speaker 2>Or something, isn't it. Yeah, I believe it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So abandoned all pretense right, so fun fun spy show

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<v Speaker 1>here and just yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was crying they did dispense with the who done it

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<v Speaker 2>in the first about five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>In the saddest possible way. It wasn't even an actual thief.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just the nice lady in the memory care

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<v Speaker 1>unit who did not realize she was stealing. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing is just a nothing. Yeah, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing was just nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Was this the theory that you had.

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<v Speaker 1>Was not the person made a theory in the wake

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<v Speaker 1>of parents and kids. Man, parents and kids thought that

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<v Speaker 1>the old lady had faked the theft to get the

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<v Speaker 1>attention of her son. Oh, honestly would have been better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that makes sense for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Because she wants to go live with him or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>and thought that this would be a way to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And but mark Evin Jackson is not having it.

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<v Speaker 2>He his scene was funny. He was just like, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>you solved it, ye, great, okay, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Charles is giving him the whole pitch about loneliness and

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<v Speaker 1>why didn't you come visit? And I didn't see you

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time he was there, and he does not care.

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<v Speaker 1>Take your paycheck and go away, right, And honestly we

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<v Speaker 1>met his mother, yeah right, but you know she she

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<v Speaker 1>raised that. Yes, from a parent point of it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's not something that happened yesterday. Years and years

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<v Speaker 1>and years of parenting resulted in him wanting to have

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely to do with.

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<v Speaker 2>This is true.

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<v Speaker 1>Be an ungrateful bratt also, But it doesn't seem like right.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems like I will put her up someplace nice. That is,

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<v Speaker 1>that is as far as I'm willing to go right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but so and we had DD.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I should say that you're crying, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're you know, tearing up. We had the captions on,

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<v Speaker 1>and the number of times that the captions told us

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<v Speaker 1>that this was poignant music was.

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<v Speaker 2>My audience is leaving there, okay, no longer interested in

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<v Speaker 2>what we have to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Not poignant music.

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<v Speaker 2>We're out of here. But it's one's coming back, coming back, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>He lost us often say suspenseful music, Yes, captions, but

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<v Speaker 1>still I felt like it's they needed to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you knew they didn't want you missing No Danny tear

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<v Speaker 1>jerking opportunity. Well, you know again, we as we've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about in the last number of episodes, at this

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<v Speaker 1>thing bait and switch on this show was pretty significant. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am not happy about that. I mean I'll

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<v Speaker 1>watch the next season when they are good. The writing

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<v Speaker 1>is good, it's entertaining. But it was sold as a

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<v Speaker 1>fun detective romp and it became a reflection on aging, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, Netflix had an article about the end

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<v Speaker 1>where it was swissly explaining the ending, which who needs

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean? It's necessary? But it was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Mike Sure and Ted Danson talking about people

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<v Speaker 1>getting older and how you you know your kids don't

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<v Speaker 1>have as much time for you, and we don't value

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<v Speaker 1>old people enough, all their experience and all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>There's going to be a book. I swear there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a book. It's going to be Mike Sure

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<v Speaker 1>or it's going to be Mike Sure and Ted Danson.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's going to be a book.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure got the taste of it after writing a book

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<v Speaker 1>about Heaven for the After the Good Place. They got

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<v Speaker 1>they thought, wow, man, all the people, we should write

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<v Speaker 1>a book, And then yes, this is and it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean old people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well you just have to go into it knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that that's what you're getting.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I wouldn't necessarily avoid that show, But I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to have known that was the show I

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<v Speaker 1>was watching and not had my hopes up for fun

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<v Speaker 1>detective stuff right with punny episode titles.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know the.

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<v Speaker 1>Actressho places Julie must have started looking at the scripts

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<v Speaker 1>as things went on and went, wait a minute, wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of a main character in this at one point?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I did enjoy her sarcasm, yes, yes, but then even.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit of spice every time she came in.

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<v Speaker 2>But although even in the ending she was called upon

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<v Speaker 2>to be serious and tell Dedie that she needed to

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<v Speaker 2>keep her job because she was good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, so the salt shakers were connected.

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<v Speaker 2>To the case, that's right, Yes, she took the salt shakers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and something else that I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's a whole bunch. They were all laid out

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<v Speaker 2>on the table, it was like. And also that necklace

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<v Speaker 2>that they showed like they showed it again could not

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<v Speaker 2>have looked cheaper or faker like to try, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is supposed to be important enough for him

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<v Speaker 2>to have hired a private detective to find out what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>That thing looked like it came out of a gumball machine, like, really,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Value?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those people weren't sentimental in any way, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just sort of contributed to the whole nothing

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the case, so he.

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<v Speaker 1>Got another case for next season conveniently. Yeah, we knew

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<v Speaker 1>that would happen, but is it going to be an

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<v Speaker 1>actual case?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>No more reflecting on the state of aging right in

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenties. You know, okay, only it's only eight episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>You would think they would be able to sustain a

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<v Speaker 1>theme through eight episodes. It's not like you had to

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<v Speaker 1>be like Lost, where you say, oh crud, we have

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<v Speaker 1>five years of episodes that we have to fill with

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<v Speaker 1>this tiny little idea. We had eight episodes. You gotta kearticulate, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but pleasant people to watch. The whole Elliott Watch things

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<v Speaker 1>to come back and be a little stinger at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>that that wasn't really what happened, right, I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>how they even brushed that off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they just said that, I don't I forgot her name, Gladys, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the one who the one who did she Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>said that she sort of heard people kept talking about

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<v Speaker 2>watches because of the rolex that they were using as

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<v Speaker 2>a as a as bait, and she decided she wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to give him a watch too or something. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's how they tried to explain it. Yeah, okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't strong.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, everything about this was not strong. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like bad to complain because it's a switch

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<v Speaker 1>about all people, old people. We should pay more attention

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<v Speaker 1>to old people and what shows about them and care

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<v Speaker 1>about their lives and you know, not need a detective

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<v Speaker 1>show to lure us in unsuspectingly. But what are you

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<v Speaker 1>guys doing?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but fortunately everybody people were mad at Charles for

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<v Speaker 1>like five minutes and then yah, it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it took It took Calbert a little longer, which

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<v Speaker 2>you know, fair absolutely like at least one person was

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<v Speaker 2>legitimately mad.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, seemed like he was like abruptly completely mad and

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<v Speaker 1>shutting him out. And then abruptly you think Dee Dee

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<v Speaker 2>D said something to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just it had to it had to go

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<v Speaker 1>one way and then the other in a very short

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<v Speaker 1>period of time, right, And you know, nobody wants people

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<v Speaker 1>to be mad at him, So let's let's move this along. No, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how about a wedding next season?

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<v Speaker 2>They can be partners in crime, right and not crime? Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I really would have liked Charles to move back into

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<v Speaker 1>that place, because I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he would.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, maybe maybe next season. Yeah, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>depending how many of these people they have on contract

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<v Speaker 1>for season two. Right, But but at least he's my husband.

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<v Speaker 2>Go back and visit now, like you know, he'll be

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<v Speaker 2>invited back.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Yes, he can keep coming and I'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>play play backgammon with Calvert and go over his cases

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody will help him out. But speaking of the

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<v Speaker 1>sentimentality of it all and just I mean, even though

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<v Speaker 1>it's not what we signed up for, it still was

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<v Speaker 1>very sweet and lovely. Yes, my husband was not as charitable.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, they solved the mystery at the beginning. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of this car?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? What are we sitting here for another?

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<v Speaker 1>Hurry up? Already? What's going on that? He was like

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<v Speaker 1>really ticked because he had completely signed up for a

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<v Speaker 1>detective thing. He likes detective things. Yeah, he likes spy literature.

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<v Speaker 1>He likes that stuff, so that's what it was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be, And so he was extremely impatient with what

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<v Speaker 1>he was stuck with. Yes, I don't think the Poignan

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<v Speaker 1>music worked on him at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, there is you know, rather a big hole in

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<v Speaker 2>that she didn't pack her own stuff to move from yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the main area to the memory care.

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<v Speaker 1>He noticed the salt shakers. Yeah, Yeah, that was I

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<v Speaker 1>saw somebody online bring that up. And the explanation that

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<v Speaker 1>somebody gave them was that maybe she had that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>all packed up in her room and never unpacked it.

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<v Speaker 1>She had things like for different different productions and different things.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe right she had it stuff squirreled away in

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<v Speaker 2>a drawer or box or something that just got moved if.

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<v Speaker 1>She hadn't already bind up and they just moved the bins. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because if she had them out, somebody would notice them out. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So that I suppose, like, boy, people are organized, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Charles has that like whole room full of nicely binned items. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>they had those at my house. It would just be

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<v Speaker 1>like open the door to the room and just there'sself everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the piles and bags.

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<v Speaker 2>And remember on friends Monica's closet, like because she was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, known for being incredibly fastidious and organized, but

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<v Speaker 2>she had this one closet that if you opened it up,

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<v Speaker 2>it just would, like, you know, a tidal wave of

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<v Speaker 1>If my husband and daughter were having to pack up

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of like parenting, that's not what we expect, not

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<v Speaker 1>And we wonder why people didn't notice things that seem

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll find somebody else to play back.

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<v Speaker 1>Sweet gentle series with lots of poignant music? Oh, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, we should. We can't get out of this

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<v Speaker 1>or she'll they'll find ways to work her in next season. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who has a mystery to solve. A good place person

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<v Speaker 1>M Okay, so well, now that's from this nice, genteel, quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>lovely reflection on aging with music. What are we going

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<v Speaker 2>This show is called Running Point and it is. It

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<v Speaker 1>Walk as hilarity and ser Yes, so we will find

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<v Speaker 1>poignant music good. I think Brenda's song is in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Who I remember as London Tipton many a year ago

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<v Speaker 1>and the sweet Life of Zach and Cody. But she

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<v Speaker 1>apparently has a there's a reel of her on social

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<v Speaker 1>media just like cussing incessantly. Okay, that'll be fun. I

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter, Hey, you want to watch this show with us?

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<v Speaker 1>We're Brenda song curses. That'll be fun. So it should

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<v Speaker 1>be a whole different thing. But whether it will in

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<v Speaker 1>with poignant music, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not either.

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<v Speaker 1>But my my husband is just straight out refusing to

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<v Speaker 1>watch this one. He's not interested, well running, possibly because

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<v Speaker 1>of the cussing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and also, you know, glorifying people who own sports

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<v Speaker 1>teams probably not a thing either.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they may turn out.

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<v Speaker 1>Keeping them a show making fun of them.

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to hear nothing about them whatsoever except that

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll be sitting alone on the couch watching this one.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's fine, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, next week we'll talk about the pilot, the

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<v Speaker 2>first episode of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's not really a parenting lessons we're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hold on, let me just I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what the I called it a pilot. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not a pilot if it's like a Netflix show that

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<v Speaker 2>they made the whole thing. Yeah, but the first episode

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<v Speaker 2>is as follows, is.

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<v Speaker 1>Called suspenseful music.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh guess what. It's called S one e one pilot.

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<v Speaker 2>You can cut off this.

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<v Speaker 1>Airplane, yeah, see, and it crashes in a basketball stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are ten episodes, so okay, catch us back

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<v Speaker 2>here in ten weeks discussing whether or not this was

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<v Speaker 1>We thought it was going to be a raucous comedy

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<v Speaker 1>with lots of cursing, and really it was a thoughtful

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<v Speaker 1>reflection on sports and family.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, at any rate, we will see you back

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<v Speaker 2>here tomorrow for our weekly Roundabout round up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you for listening. You can find all our

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