Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
Speaker 2: a newer entertainment property, and for this week of March seventeenth,
Speaker 2: we're finishing up with A Man on the Inside, Season one,
Speaker 2: episode eight, The Spy Who Came In from the Cold,
Speaker 2: which is the first like not punny title.
Speaker 1: I believe it's just like an actual title.
Speaker 2: Or something, isn't it. Yeah, I believe it is.
Speaker 1: So abandoned all pretense right, so fun fun spy show
Speaker 1: here and just yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Was crying they did dispense with the who done it
Speaker 2: in the first about five minutes.
Speaker 1: In the saddest possible way. It wasn't even an actual thief.
Speaker 1: It was just the nice lady in the memory care
Speaker 1: unit who did not realize she was stealing. Right, So
Speaker 1: the whole thing is just a nothing. Yeah, the whole
Speaker 1: thing was just nothing.
Speaker 2: Was this the theory that you had.
Speaker 1: Was not the person made a theory in the wake
Speaker 1: of parents and kids. Man, parents and kids thought that
Speaker 1: the old lady had faked the theft to get the
Speaker 1: attention of her son. Oh, honestly would have been better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense for sure.
Speaker 1: Because she wants to go live with him or whatever
Speaker 1: and thought that this would be a way to do it.
Speaker 1: And but mark Evin Jackson is not having it.
Speaker 2: He his scene was funny. He was just like, ah,
Speaker 2: you solved it, ye, great, okay, Like.
Speaker 1: Charles is giving him the whole pitch about loneliness and
Speaker 1: why didn't you come visit? And I didn't see you
Speaker 1: the whole time he was there, and he does not care.
Speaker 1: Take your paycheck and go away, right, And honestly we
Speaker 1: met his mother, yeah right, but you know she she
Speaker 1: raised that. Yes, from a parent point of it's true.
Speaker 1: So there's not something that happened yesterday. Years and years
Speaker 1: and years of parenting resulted in him wanting to have
Speaker 1: absolutely to do with.
Speaker 2: This is true.
Speaker 1: Be an ungrateful bratt also, But it doesn't seem like right.
Speaker 1: Seems like I will put her up someplace nice. That is,
Speaker 1: that is as far as I'm willing to go right.
Speaker 2: Yes, but so and we had DD.
Speaker 1: By the way, I should say that you're crying, you're
Speaker 1: you're you know, tearing up. We had the captions on,
Speaker 1: and the number of times that the captions told us
Speaker 1: that this was poignant music was.
Speaker 2: My audience is leaving there, okay, no longer interested in
Speaker 2: what we have to say.
Speaker 1: Not poignant music.
Speaker 2: We're out of here. But it's one's coming back, coming back, Okay.
Speaker 1: He lost us often say suspenseful music, Yes, captions, but
Speaker 1: still I felt like it's they needed to make sure
Speaker 1: you knew they didn't want you missing No Danny tear
Speaker 1: jerking opportunity. Well, you know again, we as we've been
Speaker 1: talking about in the last number of episodes, at this
Speaker 1: thing bait and switch on this show was pretty significant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I am not happy about that. I mean I'll
Speaker 1: watch the next season when they are good. The writing
Speaker 1: is good, it's entertaining. But it was sold as a
Speaker 1: fun detective romp and it became a reflection on aging, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, Netflix had an article about the end
Speaker 1: where it was swissly explaining the ending, which who needs
Speaker 1: what do you mean? It's necessary? But it was a
Speaker 1: lot of Mike Sure and Ted Danson talking about people
Speaker 1: getting older and how you you know your kids don't
Speaker 1: have as much time for you, and we don't value
Speaker 1: old people enough, all their experience and all of them.
Speaker 1: There's going to be a book. I swear there's going
Speaker 1: to be a book. It's going to be Mike Sure
Speaker 1: or it's going to be Mike Sure and Ted Danson.
Speaker 1: But there's going to be a book.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sure got the taste of it after writing a book
Speaker 1: about Heaven for the After the Good Place. They got
Speaker 1: two episodes into this thing and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they thought, wow, man, all the people, we should write
Speaker 1: a book, And then yes, this is and it's fine.
Speaker 1: I mean old people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well you just have to go into it knowing
Speaker 2: that that's what you're getting.
Speaker 1: I don't I wouldn't necessarily avoid that show, But I
Speaker 1: would like to have known that was the show I
Speaker 1: was watching and not had my hopes up for fun
Speaker 1: detective stuff right with punny episode titles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know the.
Speaker 1: Actressho places Julie must have started looking at the scripts
Speaker 1: as things went on and went, wait a minute, wasn't
Speaker 1: that kind of a main character in this at one point?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I did enjoy her sarcasm, yes, yes, but then even.
Speaker 1: A little bit of spice every time she came in.
Speaker 2: But although even in the ending she was called upon
Speaker 2: to be serious and tell Dedie that she needed to
Speaker 2: keep her job because she was good at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so the salt shakers were connected.
Speaker 2: To the case, that's right, Yes, she took the salt shakers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and something else that I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a whole bunch. They were all laid out
Speaker 2: on the table, it was like. And also that necklace
Speaker 2: that they showed like they showed it again could not
Speaker 2: have looked cheaper or faker like to try, you know,
Speaker 2: like this is supposed to be important enough for him
Speaker 2: to have hired a private detective to find out what happened.
Speaker 2: That thing looked like it came out of a gumball machine, like, really,
Speaker 2: what are you doing.
Speaker 1: Value?
Speaker 2: Yeah, those people weren't sentimental in any way, that's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just sort of contributed to the whole nothing
Speaker 1: burger iness of this thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the case, so he.
Speaker 1: Got another case for next season conveniently. Yeah, we knew
Speaker 1: that would happen, but is it going to be an
Speaker 1: actual case?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: No more reflecting on the state of aging right in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenties. You know, okay, only it's only eight episodes.
Speaker 1: You would think they would be able to sustain a
Speaker 1: theme through eight episodes. It's not like you had to
Speaker 1: be like Lost, where you say, oh crud, we have
Speaker 1: five years of episodes that we have to fill with
Speaker 1: this tiny little idea. We had eight episodes. You gotta kearticulate, Yes,
Speaker 1: but pleasant people to watch. The whole Elliott Watch things
Speaker 1: seem off to me. I kept thinking that was going
Speaker 1: to come back and be a little stinger at the end,
Speaker 1: that that wasn't really what happened, right, I don't remember
Speaker 1: how they even brushed that off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just said that, I don't I forgot her name, Gladys, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the one who the one who did she Yeah, they
Speaker 2: said that she sort of heard people kept talking about
Speaker 2: watches because of the rolex that they were using as
Speaker 2: a as a as bait, and she decided she wanted
Speaker 2: to give him a watch too or something. I think
Speaker 2: that's how they tried to explain it. Yeah, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it wasn't strong.
Speaker 1: No, no, everything about this was not strong. I mean
Speaker 1: you feel like bad to complain because it's a switch
Speaker 1: about all people, old people. We should pay more attention
Speaker 1: to old people and what shows about them and care
Speaker 1: about their lives and you know, not need a detective
Speaker 1: show to lure us in unsuspectingly. But what are you
Speaker 1: guys doing?
Speaker 2: What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but fortunately everybody people were mad at Charles for
Speaker 1: like five minutes and then yah, it's okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah it took It took Calbert a little longer, which
Speaker 2: you know, fair absolutely like at least one person was
Speaker 2: legitimately mad.
Speaker 1: Right, seemed like he was like abruptly completely mad and
Speaker 1: shutting him out. And then abruptly you think Dee Dee
Speaker 1: said something to d.
Speaker 2: D said something to him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just it had to it had to go
Speaker 1: one way and then the other in a very short
Speaker 1: period of time, right, And you know, nobody wants people
Speaker 1: to be mad at him, So let's let's move this along. No, well,
Speaker 1: how about a wedding next season?
Speaker 2: They can be partners in crime, right and not crime? Right.
Speaker 1: I really would have liked Charles to move back into
Speaker 1: that place, because I know.
Speaker 2: I thought he would.
Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe maybe next season. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: depending how many of these people they have on contract
Speaker 1: for season two. Right, But but at least he's my husband.
Speaker 2: Go back and visit now, like you know, he'll be
Speaker 2: invited back.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yes, he can keep coming and I'll probably
Speaker 1: play play backgammon with Calvert and go over his cases
Speaker 1: and everybody will help him out. But speaking of the
Speaker 1: sentimentality of it all and just I mean, even though
Speaker 1: it's not what we signed up for, it still was
Speaker 1: very sweet and lovely. Yes, my husband was not as charitable.
Speaker 1: He's like, they solved the mystery at the beginning. What's
Speaker 1: the rest of this car?
Speaker 2: Right? What are we sitting here for another?
Speaker 1: Hurry up? Already? What's going on that? He was like
Speaker 1: really ticked because he had completely signed up for a
Speaker 1: detective thing. He likes detective things. Yeah, he likes spy literature.
Speaker 1: He likes that stuff, so that's what it was supposed
Speaker 1: to be, And so he was extremely impatient with what
Speaker 1: he was stuck with. Yes, I don't think the Poignan
Speaker 1: music worked on him at all.
Speaker 2: Also, there is you know, rather a big hole in
Speaker 2: that she didn't pack her own stuff to move from yeah,
Speaker 2: the main area to the memory care.
Speaker 1: He noticed the salt shakers. Yeah, Yeah, that was I
Speaker 1: saw somebody online bring that up. And the explanation that
Speaker 1: somebody gave them was that maybe she had that stuff
Speaker 1: all packed up in her room and never unpacked it.
Speaker 1: She had things like for different different productions and different things.
Speaker 2: So maybe right she had it stuff squirreled away in
Speaker 2: a drawer or box or something that just got moved if.
Speaker 1: She hadn't already bind up and they just moved the bins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because if she had them out, somebody would notice them out. Yes,
Speaker 1: So that I suppose, like, boy, people are organized, man,
Speaker 1: Charles has that like whole room full of nicely binned items. Boy,
Speaker 1: they had those at my house. It would just be
Speaker 1: like open the door to the room and just there'sself everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's the piles and bags.
Speaker 2: And remember on friends Monica's closet, like because she was,
Speaker 2: you know, known for being incredibly fastidious and organized, but
Speaker 2: she had this one closet that if you opened it up,
Speaker 2: it just would, like, you know, a tidal wave of
Speaker 2: stuff would can tire out Mine's not far behand.
Speaker 1: If my husband and daughter were having to pack up
Speaker 1: my stuff, it would be much more difficult. And I
Speaker 1: would totally have kept that T shirt. Are you kidding me? Yes,
Speaker 1: a nice T shirt. I might wear it again.
Speaker 2: It has memories, yes, but yes, I'm with you that
Speaker 2: you know. It was not what we expected, but it
Speaker 2: was also very sweet, and I enjoyed the the characters.
Speaker 1: Kind of like parenting, that's not what we expect, not
Speaker 1: what we decided that we enjoyed the characters.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
Speaker 1: And we wonder why people didn't notice things that seem
Speaker 1: to be right out in front of them. And people
Speaker 1: say they're going to do one thing and then they
Speaker 1: do another, or they you expect them to do a
Speaker 1: job for you, and instead they just want to tell
Speaker 1: a story or you know.
Speaker 2: Give you the weather report.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, do anything else.
Speaker 2: But maybe Mike Sure is actually going to write a
Speaker 2: book about parenting.
Speaker 1: He might He talked talks about his teenage son a
Speaker 1: lot on the podcast, which I stopped listening to, but
Speaker 1: I used to, and so I was thinking that that
Speaker 1: probably informed all the scenes of Emily's sons. Yes, because
Speaker 1: he's you know, that's about the attitude he has when
Speaker 1: he's talking about his kid. But I got to give
Speaker 1: points to Calbert. He's a you know, seems like a
Speaker 1: fairly mild manner gent but man, he managed to guilt
Speaker 1: his kid out of Singapore. He's got some skills, yes,
Speaker 1: parenting kids.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's uh, you must have just really poured
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 2: That's okay, you can leave me alone. And then the
Speaker 2: kid had to do that.
Speaker 1: But we'll find somebody else to play back.
Speaker 2: And now he gets to go to the cafeteria for
Speaker 2: free food. What do they call it? The culinary center?
Speaker 2: I believe? Oh my, well, are we ready to move on?
Speaker 1: Sweet gentle series with lots of poignant music? Oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, we should. We can't get out of this
Speaker 1: without saying, hey, Darcy Carton, we see you there for
Speaker 1: a second and a half. Just a very players have
Speaker 1: to pop in here and there. So maybe he'll keep lecturing,
Speaker 1: or she'll they'll find ways to work her in next season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be fine, be nice, because she's the one
Speaker 1: who has a mystery to solve. A good place person
Speaker 1: will be the client each season.
Speaker 2: Yes, that would be fun.
Speaker 1: M Okay, so well, now that's from this nice, genteel, quiet,
Speaker 1: lovely reflection on aging with music. What are we going
Speaker 1: to watch next game?
Speaker 2: We have we have solved this mystery. So we are
Speaker 2: going to start a new show. We're going to move
Speaker 2: from northern to southern California. Yeah, but we're staying on Netflix.
Speaker 2: This show is called Running Point and it is. It
Speaker 2: stars Kate Hudson as the daughter in a family that
Speaker 2: owns a basketball team, and she, for reasons becomes uh,
Speaker 2: gets put in charge and uh. It's again meant to
Speaker 2: be a comedy.
Speaker 1: Walk as hilarity and ser Yes, so we will find
Speaker 1: out what I've seen of it. I don't expect much
Speaker 1: poignant music good. I think Brenda's song is in it.
Speaker 1: Who I remember as London Tipton many a year ago
Speaker 1: and the sweet Life of Zach and Cody. But she
Speaker 1: apparently has a there's a reel of her on social
Speaker 1: media just like cussing incessantly. Okay, that'll be fun. I
Speaker 1: my daughter, Hey, you want to watch this show with us?
Speaker 1: We're Brenda song curses. That'll be fun. So it should
Speaker 1: be a whole different thing. But whether it will in
Speaker 1: the end turn out to be a reflection on being
Speaker 1: part of a big family and the position you're uncomfortable
Speaker 1: with poignant music, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Succession, but funny, we'll see to watch Succession. I did not.
Speaker 2: I did not either.
Speaker 1: But my my husband is just straight out refusing to
Speaker 1: watch this one. He's not interested, well running, possibly because
Speaker 1: of the cussing.
Speaker 2: Ah, yes, that's not his ches though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also, you know, glorifying people who own sports
Speaker 1: teams probably not a thing either.
Speaker 2: Well, they may turn out.
Speaker 1: Keeping them a show making fun of them.
Speaker 2: Is I think they're going to be made fun of.
Speaker 1: I believe so, But I think even that, Yeah, just
Speaker 1: he wants to hear nothing about them whatsoever except that
Speaker 1: they make good decisions right to keep his teams winning.
Speaker 1: So I'll be sitting alone on the couch watching this one.
Speaker 1: All right, that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 2: So well, next week we'll talk about the pilot, the
Speaker 2: first episode of that.
Speaker 1: I guess it's not really a parenting lessons we're going to.
Speaker 2: Be getting Well it's a lot about siblings, so yeah.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on, let me just I don't know, I
Speaker 2: don't know what the I called it a pilot. It's
Speaker 2: not a pilot if it's like a Netflix show that
Speaker 2: they made the whole thing. Yeah, but the first episode
Speaker 2: is as follows, is.
Speaker 1: Called suspenseful music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh guess what. It's called S one e one pilot.
Speaker 2: You can cut off this.
Speaker 1: Airplane, yeah, see, and it crashes in a basketball stadium.
Speaker 2: And there are ten episodes, so okay, catch us back
Speaker 2: here in ten weeks discussing whether or not this was
Speaker 2: actually a comedy.
Speaker 1: We thought it was going to be a raucous comedy
Speaker 1: with lots of cursing, and really it was a thoughtful
Speaker 1: reflection on sports and family.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, at any rate, we will see you back
Speaker 2: here tomorrow for our weekly Roundabout round up.
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