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of the matter. Guys. I got a really great episode

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for you guys today. I got my brother from another mother.

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I got Ryan Peterson with us today. And this is

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a guy that I was talking pre roll. I was like,

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this is a man that I feel like he's an

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old high school buddy. We could talk for at least

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an hour pre roll, be where we even hit record,

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and this was no exception today. So Ryan, Man, it's

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been probably about close to a years since I've had

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you on. Man, I've missed you, brother. Thanks for coming back.

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Speaker 2: Hey, my brother, thanks for having me on. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: And like you said, man, it's like you don't miss

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a beat. So I'm super super highed for this discussion.

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Speaker 3: Well, just for those that have been living under a

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rock and maybe not familiar with you and what you

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do and who you are. Just give those people a

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catch up.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: So I'm an author, researcher, of course, a Christian, husband, father,

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former rapper, many different things, but mainly my two books

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were a judgment of the Nepheline and the final film.

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So I was really digging too all things Genesis six, Nephelum,

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fam Angels and times anti Christ and you know, I

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really just love going into aspects of the Bible and

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the supernatural that the Church doesn't go to and people

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don't like to go to.

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Speaker 2: I want to be. That's where I kind of where

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I live.

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Speaker 5: So you know, I make books, I make documentaries as well,

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and hard at work for a new launch of a

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whole I'm excited for a lot of new projects this

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year in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome. You learn something new every day. Man, we've

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been friends and talking for three three and a half

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years now. I never knew you were a rapper, bro.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, back back in my much much younger days.

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You know, I grew up in New York, so I

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was you know, you know, the birthplace of hip hop

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and breakdancing. So and when I say younger, I mean

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like twelve thirteen years old.

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Speaker 3: About so you have to send me some tracks. Man, Yeah,

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I still got them. Yeah, I'm gonna hold you too.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got them.

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Speaker 3: That's sweet. Well let everybody, let everybody know, like, what's

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the new project? Man? Can we get a little sneak

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pink working?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely so right now. So my next book is really

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focusing on, uh, the ancient ancient Earth, you know, the

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gap theory, the idea that between Genesis one one and

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Genesis one two there's a whole history before Adam and

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Eve and who is who does involved? This primarily involves

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the angels, involves when we look at questions like what

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you know, uh the fall, When did Satan fall? When

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did any of the fallen angels you know, turn evil and

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rebel against God?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 5: We don't find these things in the first chapter of Genesis,

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so I really want to.

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Speaker 5: Deep dive to explore what was happening for Adam and

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Evra on the earth and this whole idea of how

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old is the earth? Because you know, the beauty of

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the issue of Genesis six and the Nephilum is it

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really in addition to opening our eyes up to so

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much of scripture and God's plan of redemption. It addresses

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a major stumbling block with the Bible, which is, well,

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why did God flood the earth and destroy ninety nine

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percent of the global population and why did God wage

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wars in Canaan? And if you understand Genesis six, you

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can answer that and realize that God is rescuing humanity. Well, similarly,

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another big stumbling block is this whole idea of the

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age of the Earth. And there are many people I know,

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you know, well meaning people who grew up going to

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church who are no longer believers, who will point to

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that and say, you know, there's no way that the

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Earth is six thousand years old in change. And you know,

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there's numerous scientific evidences to prove that very quickly that

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the Earth is much older than six to seven thousand

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years And I don't believe the Bible says that at all.

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to open up this disc so we can move to it,

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so we can move that sumbling block from people who

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that's hindering people from believing and even engaging with the Bible.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so it's a lot in there, and we

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can go through it.

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Speaker 5: But I also hit on, you know, were there are

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other ancient civilizations on Earth? How do we see things

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like the megalists of like you know, go Beckley tepee

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and things that are twelve thy thirteen thousand years old.

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They even said in Israel they just found ancient tools.

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I think we're hundreds of thousands of years old tools.

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starting in Mesopotamia, you know.

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Speaker 2: In five thousand BC.

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Speaker 5: You know, it smashes that paradigm, so that I believe

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there's a whole history here and so I'm unpacking all

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of that in my new book.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that's awesome. I know once before we kind

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of touched on the gap theory on a previous episode

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and kind of touched on it a little bit. So yeah,

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I'm excited to talk to you and take a deeper

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dive and see see what you found. And this is

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something that I recently uh listened to. Uh. I think

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it was Donna Howe. Uh she done some work on that.

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I listened to an audiobook recently and I can't remember

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the guy's name, but it was like a founding father,

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I believe, uh, a church father that come up with

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this whole age of the years by adding up the genealogies,

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and that's how he come up with this this six

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thousand year age of Earth. But the thing is, too,

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is anybody that's you know, studied the Bible and took

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a good deep dive you know, knows that you can't

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you know, add these up like that and take these

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these genealogies and these ages literally because there's a lot

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of you know, symbology with the numbers. Uh, there's a

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lot of veneration with with with the numbers. And not

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everybody was listed in there obviously, because this this book

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would be uh, never ending, you'd never get the thing

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read if you had every bigot but God but God.

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It was kind of like a like a highlight reel

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just to kind of keep track of the main points,

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backtracking to the Messiah and that which you think, because

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I know there's a lot of Christians that that get

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really upset over, you know, me talking like that and

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people saying things like that. But it's it's I mean,

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it is what it is, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And then also too, even the differences in the genealogies

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to between the masoretic texts and see the septuagy and

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when you have significant centuries more and I think there's

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a whole conspiracy theory behind that that when the when

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the septuogia became the the the Bible quote unquote of

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the of the early Church, Rabbi Akiva in the first

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century was made effort to try and change the masoretic

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text to.

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Speaker 2: Undermine what was a common belief about the Messiahs.

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Speaker 5: So it's funny you mention this, so you know, while

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a lot of people because there are a number of

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Church fathers who definitely didn't formally say I believe in

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the gap theory, but definitely you can tell from their

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writings ascribed to an ancient earth rather than a six

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thousand year Earth or tying the earth to the birth

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of Adam to their day. But there was also a

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common belief in the first century that the genealogies did

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signify the timing of the rival of Messiah, specifically after

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five thousand years. So there's also an issue with that

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differentiation some of the there's a very strong prevailion documented

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theory that the reason why you have the discrepancies in

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the genealogies is because the Pharisees of that day were

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trying to undo this belief that the timing of Jesus

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coincided with the common Jewish expectation, after five thousand years

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of human history, not Earth history, human history, the Messiah

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was going to appear on Earth, which coincided with the

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birth of Christ and earth the incarnation of our lords.

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Speaker 2: So I agree with you.

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Speaker 5: I don't think we can put one hundred percent stock

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in those genealogies. But even before we get to that,

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Speaker 5: And the second verse of the Bible, and so before

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we even get to Adam, the Bible is telling us.

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And this is why I kind of start off by

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doing kind of our you know, a repass, you know,

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kind of a review of Genesis one, but a slow drive,

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like you know, the Judgment of the nephilone was a

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slow drive through Genesis chapter six and the first six

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chapters of the Bible. This is just going through chapter

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one because right off the bat we see the timing

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of the creation of Earth was in the beginning. That's

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what we're told. There's no date given. It's definitely not

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tied to the birth of Adam at all. And it's

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just said in the beginning. This is when God is

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starting the clock to say, now I'm going to usher

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in creation. The heavens and the earth were created. And

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then we get to verse two, and this is again

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goes back to this whole translation and manuscript issue. You know,

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we're told the earth was without form and void, and

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so the Hebrew there for haya for the earth was,

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or to be really means became. So right from the

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second verse, we're seeing this idea that something happened to

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the earth to make it without form and void.

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Speaker 2: There was.

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Speaker 5: And so what I try to right away is that

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what we're seeing in verse two is a judged Earth

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covered with water. I mean, and you look at the

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parallels between Genesis one and Genesis nine, you know, six

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seven eight nine with the Flood of Noah. The similarities

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just pop off the page. You have a planet covered

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with earth and darkness. You have the Earth at the

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Flood of Noah. Of course, again plunged into judgment from God,

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which is often associated the darkness in the Old Testament

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and in the New, but definitely the Old Testament is

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always associated with God's judgment. The day of the Lord

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will be a day of darkness and gloominess and dark clouds.

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It's repeated again and again, and this is what we

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see in verse two. Even the idea of the Holy

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Spirit hovering above the waters, that term in Hebrew actually

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means fluttering. You know, you have Noah releasing a dove,

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which is a symbol, a type of the Holy Spirit

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flying over the waters before the earth is regenerated, and

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now he can now come out on land, and land

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appears and they can reboot the human race.

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Speaker 2: You have.

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Speaker 5: Even with Adam and Noah, right, both of them are

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given dominion over animals. All the creatures on the earth

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are given that for God and told to replenish the earth.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: God tells Adam from the beginning to replenish the earth,

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not fill the earth the first time. And so again

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this is this idea that there was a population on

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the earth before Noah's told the exact same thing.

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Speaker 2: They both have.

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Speaker 5: Three sons, where the third son is the one who

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the messianic blessing is going to come through Seth for

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Adam Shem for Noah. They both had supernatural interactions with animals.

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God brought all the animals to Adam to name right,

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which is one of his first jobs for God. God

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brought all the animals to Noah to board the ark

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the animals he created right. And again is an interesting

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too when I go through this too, is that when

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you can look even at the creation of the animals

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right of the in what I call and now I'm

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really giving you a preview of the book because I

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you know what's called the creation week, I actually call

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it the restoration week.

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Speaker 2: I use.

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Speaker 5: That's the term I use is it's a restoration. It's

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not the creation of the earth what we're seeing in

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Genesis one. It's the restoration. It's the repairing of this

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judged earth. And just this idea of even looking at

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the Hebrew there when God says that when we see

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the word create in Genesis one, that term in Hebrew Barrah,

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that is referring to a divine act ex nelio, that

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God is creating something from nothing, and it's only used

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three times in Genesis one. With all the things that

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we see plants, animals, the seas, the firmament.

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Speaker 2: It's only used three times.

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Speaker 5: When God creates Heaven and Earth in verse one, which

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I believe is the true original creation of the universe

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and the planet Earth at an undetermined time millions, if

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not billions of years in the past. The creation of

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great whales. It says God created the great whale, but

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I think that's not I also think that's not an

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accurate translation. I believe what was actually being created there Chaos,

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dre and maybe Leviathan so exactly. So I believe Leviathans

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was actually being referred to there. And there's a lot

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of great ancient sources that support that interpretation, as well

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as the Book of Enoch. And so I'm trying not

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to go down too many rabbit trails right away, but

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we can get into that as well if you want

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to get into that. But you know, I'm just going

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to go we just go there. We'll just go where

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the spirit takes us. And when you look in the

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Book of Enoch, there's actually references to Behemoth and Leviathan,

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and it says that they were created in the same

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day that man was created. So it's just putting the

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timing of those to me. When I see that creation.

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I believe that's a reference to the creation of Leviathan.

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And then so that's the second use, and the third

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use is at them. That's the only time you see

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create bahrah, which is when God alone, and it's only

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ascribed to Yahweh throughout the Old Testament. That verbis when

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God is creating something out of nothing. Everything else is

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made fashioned form those Hebrew words. And so even when

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you look at the animals, where God doesn't create the

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beasts of the field, they come up out of the earth.

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Let the earth bring forth these beasts. It's after that,

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but God still gets the distinction for legged creatures after

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their kind, all the beasts that God's creating, all the

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animals that God is making from the ground. In that

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Restoration week, he says after their kind exactly, he says

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to know, which implies again that God is specifically creating

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a certain genetic type of animal. And I believe again

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the reason why God has to say that is because

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just like it was in the days of Noah, where

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you had fallen angels not just having offspring with human women,

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but they were even mingling DNA with animals, and you

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had the hybrid animals like you know, the chimeras, the centaurs,

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the minotaurs. I believe that also took place in the

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days of Lucifer and the ancient Earth. So once God

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floods the earth in the in Genesis one two, when

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it becomes without form and void, he destroys those genetic

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chimeras that were created by the fallen angels, and now

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in the Restoration, he's bringing back his original genetic order.

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even though it appears they've just been created.

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Speaker 2: No, it's because they already existed.

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Speaker 5: But God is removing the hybrid beings that are created

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by the fallen angels and restoring his original genetic order.

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Speaker 2: So we see lots of similarities.

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Speaker 5: Why because again it's a judged Earth in both places,

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and you know, there's an amazing I think there's a

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very unique path and there's a lot of I've spent

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a lot of time looking into this, and it's quoted

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all from when ivery tell about the gad theory. But

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I have a kind of a different interpretation from the

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common interpretation of this passage.

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Speaker 2: So one.

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right away I think support this idea that the Earth

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that we see in Genesis chapter one is a judged

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Earth that's now being restored God's returning life and light,

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his light to that to the planet that was basically

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ravaged by a judgment that he inflicted on the Earth

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to punish Lucifer and the fallen angels. The first is

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Isaiah forty five eighteen. And of course, when we look

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at that term without form and void in Genesis two Genesis,

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the second verse of Genesis in chapter one, where it

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says the earth was without form and void, that term

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tohuva bohu is what we see for without form and void,

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which refers to being ruined, destroyed. And say at forty

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five eighteen, God is talking about the creation of the Earth.

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It specifically says that when he made the Earth, he

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made it not in vain. He created it, not in

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vain it was And that's tohuvabo who so again he's

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saying he did not create the earth in its original creation.

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It was not created tohu vabo, who's so right right

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off the bat. Obviously, scripture can't contradict itself. God is

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telling us again and confirming something happened that led to

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that flooded dark earth we see in verse two. But

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then also there's a passage in Jeremiah chapter four, and

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I'm going to read this passage, and I want to

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give you the interpretation I have because I think it's

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what I think. It's a really unique passage in scripture.

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And so it says, destruction upon destruction is cried for

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the whole land is spoiled. Suddenly are my tents spoiled

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and my curtains in a moment? How long shall I

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see this and hear the sound of the trumpet? For

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my people is foolish. This is Jeremiah referring to Israel.

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They have not known me. They are Sottish children. They

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have none understanding. They are wise to do evil, but

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to do good they have no knowledge.

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Speaker 2: So he is, you know, this is what Jeremiah was

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doing all throughout the book of Jeremiah. He is rebuking.

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Speaker 5: He's speaking on behalf of God, rebuking Israel for their

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rampant spiritual rebellion. And then he says, I beheld the earth,

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and lo, it was without form and void. Tohu babo

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who in the heavens, And they had no light, And

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he continues to say that the cities were destroyed and.

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Speaker 2: And so we're seeing this idea that look you've seeing

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the Earth.

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Speaker 5: I believe many people see this as a prophecy, that

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this is a prophecy of the end times and saying, oh,

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the Earth is going to be destroyed, again, just like

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it was in Genesis one. But he says no man

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was found period on the earth, and that's not what

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happens in the end times, you know, the anti crisis,

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and there's gonna be lots of death from destruction. There

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are judgments where two you know, a third of the

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population is wiped out.

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Speaker 2: However, they're gonna be people left.

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Speaker 5: On Earth when Christ returns, right, Jesus is going to

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judge the nations and those who survive armageddon, So there

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are gonna be people left.

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Speaker 2: But I think he's.

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Speaker 5: Actually seeing the earth in that Genesis one two form,

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the destruction that God inflicted on the Earth to punish Satan.

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I think that's what he's seeing, because if you continue.

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Speaker 2: That passage, we see exactly.

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Speaker 5: And that's why I said's one of the most unique

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pasts he's seeing in the past. I believe God is

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giving him this vision to say, this is what I

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can do. Let me remind you, as you keep as

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you Israel's you continue to worship the fallen angels and

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the demons, let me give you a picture of what

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I did the last time the fallen angels got out

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of line. And he sees this vision of the judged

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Earth from them from the Luciferian rebellion.

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Speaker 2: And how do I know this one? Again?

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Speaker 5: This is there was no man found on the earth,

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which is not going to happen in the Great Tribulation.

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But to God continue in the paste, he says, I'm

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not going to make a full end of Israel. So

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even in this rebuke, God promises, I'm not gonna I'm

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not gonna wipe you out. I'm going to leave my

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remnant to obviously who worshiped me, and I'm not going

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to destroy you outright. So I think he's seeing a

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vision of the past, that ancient destruction that is being

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detailed in Genesis one two.

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Speaker 3: And what about that word the cities Ryan, because I

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know Derek had talked about I think it was in Isaiah.

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And I can't remember if that Hebrew word can also

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be translated as watchers or if it's a one letter difference. Wow,

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that he thought was a mistranslate because it says uh uh,

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I'll uh, there'll be no more uh, they'll destroy the

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there will be no more remnants of cities. But Derek

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was saying that he thinks that the original said the

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destroy the remnants of the watchers interesting, and I can't

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remember if that was you know, if that word can

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also be translated as watchers, or if he was saying

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that the difference between those two words is like a

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one letter difference and he thought it was like a

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mistranslation of the scribes. So when you said that, that's

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why I kind of just clicked in my head, because

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that would be interesting if that was the same type situation,

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because how was that worded In that verse? You said

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that there's.

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Speaker 5: The fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities

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thereover broken down at the presence of the Lord and

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by his funeral.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the watchers would be broken down. That'll make sense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, yeah, but but but still very interesting, very

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very interesting. But it still comes back to the same idea, right,

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a judgment of the watchers, the rebellious sons of God

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and everyone who pledged their loyalty to Satan and so

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so yes, I think that passage is again a very

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dynamic confirmation that we were what we're looking at is

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what we're looking at is an ancient earth, and that

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was judged and that I you know, that is now

478
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being restored in Genesis one and God is basically not

479
00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:42,559
just restoring the earth. He's changing the order. He's actually

480
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,759
changing the power structure in the in the heavenly realm,

481
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because you know, we we see the restored earth and uh,

482
00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:57,680
obviously light, water, life, vegetation, animals. But then he makes

483
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a new race, right then he creates humanity and puts

484
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,440
us on the earth and creates Adam.

485
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: And what is he do.

486
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 5: He says, We're going to make man in our image.

487
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And I believe, you know, many people ieve that's angelic conversation.

488
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,920
I believe God is speaking to the Son and the

489
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,680
Holy Spirit when he says that that we are specifically

490
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,079
made the image of God. I don't believe o're made

491
00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:24,279
in the image of the angels, you know. And we

492
00:27:24,319 --> 00:27:29,680
see even in Hebrews where it talks about Christ take

493
00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:34,599
incarnating and says he took on not the flesh of angels,

494
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,720
but of the seed of Abraham.

495
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: Right, so.

496
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 5: We're kind of like little siblings to the angels, but

497
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,559
we're not exactly the same. I believe that idea of

498
00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:47,599
being the Amabo dale, being the image of God is

499
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,680
something unique to humanity. And now he gives Adam this

500
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,799
dominion over the earth it's really a transfer of authority,

501
00:27:55,839 --> 00:27:59,359
taking it from the fallen angels who rebelled when they

502
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,759
were on Earth and transferring it to Adam and showing

503
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,880
and then on top of it, he gives him a wife.

504
00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:09,839
Speaker 2: He gets to have a wife, and he gets to

505
00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:10,599
have offspring.

506
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:14,759
Speaker 5: So now he can create a race to replenish the earth,

507
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:19,599
to refill the earth and essentially replace the fallen Angels.

508
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,480
And this is something we see all throughout scripture, this

509
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,680
idea that God is going to remove a rebellious group

510
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,359
and transfer what they have to his faithful followers.

511
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:33,599
Speaker 2: Right.

512
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,559
Speaker 5: You know, you look even at with the nepheline when

513
00:28:38,519 --> 00:28:44,400
Joshua is taking leading the Israelites and God is speaking Digitalites.

514
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,680
He says He's going to bring them into a land

515
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,000
that is not theirs and put them in building that

516
00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:53,319
they didn't build, and they're going to have vineyards and

517
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,039
farms that they didn't plant. So why because he's deposing

518
00:28:57,559 --> 00:29:01,079
the Nephelin kings and there and their kingdom in the

519
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,680
land of Canaan in Israel, and he's gonna give it

520
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,480
to Israel. So he's giving it to the Israelites. And

521
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:10,440
so this idea of taking from from the rebel and

522
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:12,240
giving it to the faithful.

523
00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: I think that's what's taking place with Adam.

524
00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 5: And now he's been transferred this dominion over the earth,

525
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,559
and this of course is setting not only is it

526
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,400
showing the fallings that can be replaced.

527
00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: The war is against humanity. He's now begun right now,

528
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:26,559
the war.

529
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,359
Speaker 5: Is on because now of course Satan's like, I gotta

530
00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:31,799
ruin this guy if I either kill him, corrupt him,

531
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,359
or ruin him to prevent God's plan from coming to past.

532
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:43,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also too, I love like comparative mythology, and

533
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:48,880
when you look and you see the same story throughout history,

534
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:53,880
throughout different cultures, you know, just different caveats and names.

535
00:29:54,519 --> 00:29:56,359
You know. I love how Derek says I'm not a

536
00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:59,799
coincidence theist. You know, to me that that signals they're

537
00:29:59,839 --> 00:30:03,079
so something to this And no matter where you go,

538
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,079
you know, like ninety percent. I wouldn't say it's it's

539
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,759
you know, one hundred percent across the board, but you know,

540
00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:17,200
eighty five ninety percent of all your cultures have stories

541
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,519
and mythos or whatever you want to label it, of

542
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:28,799
time being like cycular and all these great resets, and

543
00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:31,599
you know, the Egyptians call it, you know, zep Tepi

544
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,960
the first time and there's this destruction in this reset,

545
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:39,079
in this new creation. And you go down to South

546
00:30:39,119 --> 00:30:42,920
America and they have that you know, twenty twelve calendar

547
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,880
and all these different resets, and they talk about, you know,

548
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,400
we're now in the like the third or no fifth,

549
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,960
we're in the fifth age or the fifth reset. And

550
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:54,960
you know, as you see this over and over and

551
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,400
over again, I think there there has to be something

552
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,480
to it. And even in our Bible thought it was peculiar,

553
00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:04,440
even before I was introduced to this gap theory idea

554
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,599
that exactly that God said, never again will I destroy

555
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:11,599
theirs with water?

556
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:12,799
Speaker 2: Yeah?

557
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, and because he did it twice? Right, and that's

558
00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:19,599
God's part of God's signature. So some great points there.

559
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,079
So the idea of time being cyclical, right, this is

560
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,279
you know what I call the scroll of time. That

561
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,640
is what time is to God. It's like a scroll

562
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,680
where events are overlapping and repeating.

563
00:31:31,839 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: Right.

564
00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 5: The beginning of a scroll is the end, the end

565
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,400
is the beginning. This is how time works for God

566
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,519
because God is outside of time, so he can he

567
00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:44,599
in his wisdom, can use events cycling to demonstrate that

568
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,759
He's controlling everything. This is God's even the idea that

569
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:51,680
the earth was flooded in judgment once and then in

570
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,119
the days that we see in Genesis one, and then

571
00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:56,359
God floods it again in the Days of Noah and says,

572
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,000
I will not do this again, so he leaves it

573
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:04,640
two times. That is something we see in even in

574
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:10,960
reference I think spiritually by Joseph. Right, when Joseph is

575
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,920
called out of prison to interpret Pharaoh's dreams, he says

576
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,039
he knows it's from God because he dreamt he had

577
00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:23,720
two dreams, right, so that that signal to him, this

578
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:27,039
is from Yahweh because God gave him repeated it.

579
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: And so yeah, so I believe that's exactly that.

580
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:33,279
Speaker 5: All the ancient culture that talk about this cycle of reset,

581
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,039
I think there's it's again, it's all coming back to

582
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:40,559
the same source, right, it's just their own cultural interpretation

583
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,759
on what the Bible is saying. And what I again,

584
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:44,359
what I call the scroll of time, I call it

585
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,799
quantum repetition, that events repeat all in cycling, even the

586
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:54,480
idea of the earth itself being destroyed and restarting, you know,

587
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,519
in that very famous passage and Ecclesiastes, you know, there's

588
00:32:58,559 --> 00:32:59,680
nothing new under the sun.

589
00:32:59,799 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 4: Right.

590
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:02,079
Speaker 2: The thing that's been is the thing that shall be.

591
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,440
And but you know it's interesting.

592
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 5: He always says that if you continue, it says that

593
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:11,680
you know that which is done is that which shall

594
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,759
be done, And there is no new thing under the sun.

595
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,000
Is there anything whereof It may be said, see this

596
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:20,400
is new. It hath been already of old time, which

597
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:22,920
was before us. Again, it's telling us that whatever you think,

598
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,799
whatever you see coming down the pipe are happening to.

599
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: You, it's actually happened before.

600
00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 5: But if you think about it, it says, what is

601
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,319
our interpretation of the event, This is new? But God's

602
00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:36,759
telling you no, you think it's new, but all this

603
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:38,839
has actually happened already. And then if you continue, it

604
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,039
says in verse eleven, which isn't often quoted, it says,

605
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,920
there is no remembrance of former things, neither shall there

606
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,519
be any remembers of things that are to come with

607
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,000
those that shall come after.

608
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: So it's telling us that.

609
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:59,519
Speaker 3: We stole my next phrase, said you stole my next

610
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:03,119
phrase was about to say Graham Hancock said, at best,

611
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,039
we are a species with amnesia.

612
00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:09,079
Speaker 2: Exactly there you go. There, it is there, it is.

613
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:13,559
Speaker 5: So it's telling us that we don't remember the people

614
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:17,559
who are on this earth before the beings, the conflicts, right,

615
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,599
and so again, now we're blessed we.

616
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 2: In this very generation we're in right now.

617
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 5: We're blessed that the archaeological discoveries that are taking place

618
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,920
that are uncovering Wait a second, we're seeing civilizations again

619
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:37,480
fifteen twenty thousand, hundreds of thousands of years old. So

620
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:42,039
now we're just scratching the surface literally and figuratively to

621
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,920
confirm that there are civilizations that are way older, and

622
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,280
yet they have advanced technology, yet they have advanced archaeology,

623
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,679
Yet they have what looks like religion, you know, religious

624
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:56,480
figures and emblems and statutes and all these things that

625
00:34:56,559 --> 00:35:00,320
are screaming that there's a history on this earth that

626
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,880
we just again have not remembered.

627
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:07,559
Speaker 3: Well, Ryan, in your opinion, let's let's have a thought

628
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:11,840
experiment here. Let's just go into the land of speculation,

629
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,360
because that that's a fun place that I love to

630
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:14,840
go to.

631
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: Sure, let's do it.

632
00:35:17,519 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 3: What does this world look like to you? You know,

633
00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:23,880
a lot of us have had our own thought experiments

634
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,800
of the Genesis six world, you know, the angels coming

635
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,519
down breeding with the daughters of Men. Uh. Is this

636
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:37,079
ah a pre adamant world in your opinion? Like this

637
00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:42,000
is just straight up sons of God angels uh ruling

638
00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:49,280
the earth? Or is this, you know, the the beta

639
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,599
version of Earth we see today that there there might

640
00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:56,840
have been humanity. It's just maybe like the the beta

641
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:02,239
version or yeah, what what? What? What kind of world

642
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,320
do you envision this this to be? And what happened

643
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,440
that got so bad that this destruction had to come?

644
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,519
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I think we we we see this.

645
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:14,679
Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna go to I'm gonna just talk

646
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,440
about two passages that everyone you know who dabbles even

647
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,320
in the gap theory is familiar with. But I want

648
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,639
to again point out some small details. So I think one,

649
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:25,800
I think we see a mixed society. I think that

650
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,400
you have, of course, that the angels both righteous and

651
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:30,599
fallen right there. I think they're all righteous to begin

652
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:34,719
with on Earth and using you know, again.

653
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: This idea that you know, angels.

654
00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 5: They're just a higher and their society is an advanced

655
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:45,400
form of RS.

656
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 2: So they have technology. There are vehicles.

657
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 5: We see angels with chariots with horses. So there's technology,

658
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,920
there's structure, there's buildings. Right, even God is creating giving

659
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,360
us the blueprints of a building in Revelation, right. The

660
00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:01,960
new its shape is to mention, So it's not like

661
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,760
they're just floating around. I believe they had a physical

662
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:10,519
presence of physical world technology, food, agriculture, all those things

663
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:15,440
taking place, but on a much more advanced level. But

664
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:17,599
I think and then also and they also had a

665
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:20,280
divine order and a religious order.

666
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 4: Right.

667
00:37:20,519 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 5: We see this with Ezekiel twenty eight and what you

668
00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:25,800
know in this address to the King of Tire, which

669
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,320
I believe is an address to a Lucifer, where it

670
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,719
says that he was in the garden of God, every

671
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,239
precious stones was dis covering, and it gives those those

672
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,960
those stones, those precious stones that we talked about back

673
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,800
in the day that the high priests were the Aaron

674
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,519
war to I believe help divine the will of God.

675
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:47,800
We see those on Lucifer in Ezekiel chapter twenty eight,

676
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,039
So he was wearing that in that role. And in

677
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:55,639
terms of what was taking place in the society, we

678
00:37:56,079 --> 00:38:00,199
also look at Isaiah fourteen, which is often quoted how

679
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,480
Arth thar falling from heaven elusive for sun of the morning.

680
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:06,920
And it goes through his five aspirations to and it's interesting,

681
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,599
you know when you look at what he's saying here,

682
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,800
that was in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven. Right,

683
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,800
So he's aspiring to go up, which I believe means

684
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,079
why because he was on earth ruling in the garden

685
00:38:18,119 --> 00:38:19,719
of God. Says that has been in even the garden

686
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,519
of God. I will exalt my throne above the stars

687
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:24,599
of God. I believe he's also in rulership. He says

688
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:27,320
he has a throne right, So he's not saying I

689
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,039
want a throne. I'm going to steal God's throne. He says,

690
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:33,679
I'm just going to exalt the throne I have above

691
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:34,719
Yahweh's throne.

692
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 2: So again we're.

693
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 5: Seeing kingdom, dominion, order, government, religion. I will sit also

694
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,000
upon the mount of the congregation. Again there's a congregation,

695
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,880
you know, divine counsel. All these things in the sides

696
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,440
of the north. And then he says, I will I

697
00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:52,280
will send about the heights of the cloud. I'll be

698
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,519
like the most high. But then when he's talking about

699
00:38:55,519 --> 00:39:00,840
his judgment, this is something interesting it says, Yet after

700
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,880
he says all that God says, yet thou shall be

701
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:03,599
brought down.

702
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 2: To Hell, to the sides of the pit.

703
00:39:05,519 --> 00:39:08,039
Speaker 5: They that see thee this is now in hell shall

704
00:39:08,039 --> 00:39:10,519
look upon the inconsidered, the saying, is this the man

705
00:39:11,079 --> 00:39:13,840
that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms,

706
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,800
that made the world as a wilderness. Again, we're seeing

707
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,880
that destroyed and destroyed the cities thereof right, this is

708
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,519
again harkening back to Jeremiah. He said he saw all

709
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:26,159
the cities are destroyed. There's no man to be found.

710
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,760
But then it says that opened not the house of

711
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,000
his prisoners. So who is that? Who were his prisoners?

712
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: You know?

713
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:34,519
Speaker 2: And I think.

714
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 5: I think again, in terms of speculation, I think that

715
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,440
it's very possible that many of his prisoners were harmind

716
00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:48,039
type beings that you know, predecessors. And I think there's

717
00:39:48,039 --> 00:39:51,159
something unique, and I'm gonna pull out there will be

718
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:56,480
some very interesting commentaries from the early early centuries, not

719
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,559
even the eighteen hundreds. I'm talking about, in the first

720
00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:03,199
and second centuries about the idea of man being made

721
00:40:03,199 --> 00:40:06,559
in the image of God, and was that God saying,

722
00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:10,679
now we're going to create this being in our image

723
00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:14,760
as opposed to what was on Earth before. And so

724
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,800
you're saying, so, I think there's so I think what

725
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,239
we're seeing was a society that had two classes.

726
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 2: Of beings in the ancient Earth.

727
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,519
Speaker 5: Obviously the high society was the angelic society, but I

728
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:29,000
think there were also other beings. And I think, again,

729
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,159
when you combine this, because I have a chapter that's

730
00:40:32,199 --> 00:40:38,199
devoted to the ancient megalithic structures and findings and archaeloglogical

731
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:43,360
findings of these societies, I think we were going to

732
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,079
be surprised to see that. Again, you can go back

733
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,599
hundreds of thousands of years and you're finding jewelry, tools

734
00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:57,239
and all these things, bones of human like beings that

735
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,880
in the modern paradigm there's no explanation for them. So

736
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,960
I think that's what we saw. I think that was

737
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,199
actually taking place in that ancient Earth. So the creation

738
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:10,360
of Adam wasn't just it had it carried even greater

739
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,519
significance because it's okay, now we're gonna really do this

740
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:16,239
the right way. We're gonna make these beings in directly

741
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,280
in the image of God, which means it which means

742
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,880
that they have a connection that can put them on

743
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,559
par if not superior to angels, if it's at its fulfillment, right,

744
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:32,000
And uh, obviously see the Apostle Paul kind of even

745
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,800
reference that. He says, don't you know that, well, we

746
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,280
shall judge angels, so in our elevation through Christ, we

747
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,679
can even be in a position to judge the fallen angels.

748
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,119
Speaker 3: So you think it was kind of like a like

749
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,400
the angels were kind of like ruling over the humanoid

750
00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:53,039
class and like they were like subservient to them, and

751
00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:56,239
this was kind of like God leveling the play and field,

752
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,960
so to speak. And you see all these little different

753
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:04,400
how science talks about all these you know, uh you know, Kyle,

754
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,679
Christians label it, you know, pre Adamite races and and

755
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:11,079
and one that stands out in my mind because you

756
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:14,679
have all these different subset classes they talk about. And uh,

757
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:20,519
one recent discovery is like the Denisovians up in Russia.

758
00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:23,239
You know, they say they were you know, I can't remember,

759
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,039
but it was extremely old and they found jewelry and

760
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,920
they said that they were like beads and stuff that

761
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,039
were so small, but they were precision drilled and all

762
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:35,960
this kind of stuff. Uh, do you think that that's

763
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,840
what these people were, just remnants of some of these.

764
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,679
Speaker 5: Exactly exacts, Okay, and and uh and I think the

765
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,000
distinction again Adam being made in God's image, and I

766
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,800
think that, you know, this has got breathed directly into him, right,

767
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,320
So but yeah, but I think that's that's I think

768
00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:57,440
they those beings were occupying the ancient Earth.

769
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's wild, because that's kind of my line

770
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:05,679
of thinking was too.

771
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and and and and again, I think

772
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,559
people are gonna be surprised. I think there are other

773
00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:16,480
references in scripture as well that support that, but definitely

774
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,239
in the ancient Church that was a common thought. And

775
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,360
then the beauty of looking at the nineteenth century Christian

776
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,800
commentaries is that this is when a lot of geology

777
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,920
was exploding. So you had a lot of theologians who

778
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,840
were looking at the geologic record and saying, wait a second,

779
00:43:35,199 --> 00:43:38,400
like this definitely confirms an ancient Earth. And they were

780
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,599
making the same connections to the Preadamic world and Preadamic

781
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,199
races based on the findings of geology geologists when it

782
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,760
was this was really taking off as a field during

783
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:49,239
that time.

784
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,679
Speaker 3: So yeah, and one story how we was talking about,

785
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,960
you know, different cultures and stuff. Was down in South America.

786
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:05,519
I believe it was. It was either Veracocha or Quasi Kettle,

787
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:08,280
but I think it was Veracocha. But it was talking

788
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:13,320
about his creation account and it said that the first

789
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:19,800
you know, peoples that he created were giants and that

790
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:27,639
they basically they were created alongside of like smaller people,

791
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,000
but they terrorized the land and they corrupted the land,

792
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:35,320
and that they were just tyrants and spoiled the land

793
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,440
so bad that he brought a flood and wiped them

794
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,920
out and started from scratch and then made a new

795
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,039
race of people. So you even kind of have hints

796
00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:54,400
of that story too. And that was the first creation

797
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,760
or their first cycle, and they have five and it

798
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,719
was were supposedly in the fifth cycle.

799
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,199
Speaker 5: And if you think about it again, right, the Bible

800
00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:13,360
is telling us our ancestors trick can be traced back

801
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,119
to Adam and Eve. It's giving us that information. So

802
00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:19,480
but yet at the same time, it's telling us there's

803
00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:23,280
a whole era that we don't we don't even remember, right, so,

804
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,800
and people that there's a whole era that we don't remember.

805
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,159
So again, I think there's lots of different parts of

806
00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:32,880
the Bible that confirm that we're definitely not the original

807
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,320
inhabitants of this planet. And obviously there's a whole vast history.

808
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,280
And when you look at something like, well who the

809
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,400
house of his prisoners? Well, who would that be that

810
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,800
Satan was imprisoning? And I think that that it's very

811
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:53,000
likely this race or these beings, these pre addemic beings

812
00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:58,519
and the being either victims, prisoner or slaves of Satan.

813
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 3: Yep. And that's something that I talked about in my

814
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,679
book because the whole Ezekiel twenty eight thing, and I

815
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:14,000
was talking about how they paint Satan in a priestly role,

816
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,239
and they even says outright that he profaned his sanctuaries exactly.

817
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,840
And then how you describe to that. You know, in

818
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:28,159
Isaiah fourteen he said he would ascend his throne. It

819
00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:31,039
said he had a throne, and it said that, you know,

820
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:37,199
the even Jesus said that this was his world. And

821
00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:39,639
when he said this is my world, to give whom

822
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:43,960
I please to Jesus, he never refuted him. And even

823
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,400
with the traditions of the Jewish people with their legends

824
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,159
and lord and stuff like that, they say that the

825
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:57,280
whole Ephod thing was like the symbol of kingship and priesthood.

826
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:02,800
It was like the birthright. Yeah, and at Satan's downfall

827
00:47:03,679 --> 00:47:07,280
that it was taken from him and bestowed upon Adam,

828
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,000
and that Adam was the first king and priest of

829
00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:15,599
the human race of creation. So it was like the transfer,

830
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,400
like you talked about earlier at the beginning of the show,

831
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,719
the transfer of the dominion. So it's like if I

832
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:28,239
was tried to marry our two thought ideas here. It's

833
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,960
kind of like like Adam was created as like an

834
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:39,199
answer to a problem exactly, and so once God wiped

835
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:42,639
the slate clean, he had the solution to the problem

836
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:49,480
and ripped away that position and title away from the

837
00:47:49,639 --> 00:47:54,519
Nakash and bestowed it upon his new creation, Adam. And

838
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:57,320
like I argued in the book, it was you know

839
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,400
that alone answers why hate you?

840
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 5: Oh definitely yeah, no, no, no question about it, no

841
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,400
question about it. And it also speaks to what is

842
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,679
the what is really happening in the Bible, Like you know,

843
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,039
there there are big questions, and I think this addresses

844
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:19,000
so many big questions like why what is really happening here?

845
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 2: This is about kingdoms and dominions. It's about the Kingdom

846
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,280
of God.

847
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:29,559
Speaker 5: Manifesting on earth, which is God's ultimate plan that kingdom come,

848
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:30,960
that will be done.

849
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: But Satan has.

850
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 5: A rival kingdom, and this is about This is about

851
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,440
a battle, and God's seeking to show before the culmination,

852
00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:44,360
which is the war. I believe God is also trying

853
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,679
to show and demonstrate to the angelic realm that his

854
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,159
way is right. So Adam is a solution. He's also

855
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,360
exhibit A and humanities exhibit a that even though we're

856
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,679
so we're so much more spiritually ignorant than any angel. Right,

857
00:48:58,679 --> 00:49:00,239
we don't get to see God, we don't to go

858
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,320
before his throne. They don't do any of those things.

859
00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:04,880
We don't get to even see anything in the spiritual realm,

860
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,039
only glimpses that people get. We still find our way

861
00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:13,760
back to God. He uses, you know, broken sinful men

862
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,000
and women the prophets to deliver messages, and somehow that's enough,

863
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,599
the power of his word that we find our way

864
00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:23,199
back to him. Groping in the darkness. I think God's

865
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:28,760
proving this to show that He's allowing Satan to be

866
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,760
the God of this world. Is what Jesus calls him

867
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,559
three times in the Gospels, right, and Jesus said, this

868
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:35,639
is not my kingdom, or my servants would fight. So

869
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:37,519
he's saying, I don't get this kingdom doesn't.

870
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 2: Belong to me.

871
00:49:38,119 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 5: And I love that you mentioned the temptation and Luke

872
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,599
four when Satan offers him all the kingdoms, because many

873
00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:49,280
people say that was a lie, that Satan was just

874
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,519
lying to Jesus, saying when he said that I can

875
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:55,400
give these kingdoms to whoever I want. They're delivered to me.

876
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,639
I can give them to whoever I want to give

877
00:49:56,679 --> 00:50:00,920
him to. But one, if that was a lie, Jesus

878
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,119
would know immediately, so he's not gonna He's not gonna

879
00:50:03,159 --> 00:50:07,440
fool or trick Jesus too. If it wasn't true, then

880
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,840
there's no temptation. It's like someone offering to sell you

881
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,000
the Brooklyn Bridge. There's no temptation because they're not they

882
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,960
don't own the Brooklyn Bridge. It's just a it's a hustle,

883
00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:20,480
you know, there's nothing to it. And so a temptation

884
00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:23,599
for Jesus to have if it wasn't being offered real

885
00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:25,639
power and a real kingdom.

886
00:50:26,199 --> 00:50:26,599
Speaker 2: And so.

887
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 5: It really goes to the heart of what's happening here.

888
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,559
And I think God is allowing this time to give

889
00:50:35,679 --> 00:50:39,199
Satan temporary authority right to say that this, yeah, this

890
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,360
is I can give this to whoever I want, because I've

891
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,760
now snatched it back from Adam because he's proving something.

892
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,840
He's proving that Satan's way will fail and is evil,

893
00:50:49,079 --> 00:50:50,920
and his way is right and true in his word

894
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,519
doesn't fail and right. And I think we even again

895
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:57,159
going back to Paul, who received so much special revelation

896
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,800
into the divine realm, he says that our salvation is

897
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:04,519
something that angels look into. They're looking at this, they're observing,

898
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:07,239
they are curious, they're researching it because there's something that

899
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:12,400
God is revealing to them through this whole history that

900
00:51:12,519 --> 00:51:15,639
is called that is human civilization. And how in our battle,

901
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,280
that spiritual battle of God's believers on earth against the

902
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,840
forces of evil that's taking place every day, God's not

903
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:25,559
just redeeming us and saving us, He's also making his

904
00:51:25,639 --> 00:51:28,920
case to prove his word to the entire angelic Reme.

905
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,599
And so when Jesus comes back, there's no shadow of

906
00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:35,000
a doubt that he did everything he said he would,

907
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,559
that his word never failed, and that his word is

908
00:51:37,639 --> 00:51:38,760
right and his way is right.

909
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Amen. And Paul even said it too. You know,

910
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,320
as far as this, this birth right, this dominion, you know,

911
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,039
whatever kind of verbians you want attach to it, this

912
00:51:49,199 --> 00:51:52,719
power struggle, this game of thrones, yeah, Paal said it.

913
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,239
You know, we traded the truths for a lie. Yes,

914
00:51:57,559 --> 00:52:03,159
we worship the created things instead of the creator exactly.

915
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,559
It was ours to give away, and we gave it away, yep.

916
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,280
But Christ came back and took it back, and it

917
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,119
is going to take it back. Yeah.

918
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,639
Speaker 5: And again going to the repetition, this is that's why

919
00:52:16,679 --> 00:52:20,239
he is the last atom. He's another atom. Yes, everything again,

920
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,519
this idea of things happening over a cycle, that's why

921
00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:27,960
he's the last atom because again it's it's God is

922
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,000
using atom, even in his fall, even in his sin,

923
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,159
to foreshadow what he's going to do to fulfill his

924
00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:36,000
planet redemption.

925
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,079
Speaker 3: Yeah. The last high priest too, because it talks about Hebrews,

926
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:40,559
you know.

927
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 2: For sure. Yeah, absolutely, he is the last high priest. Yeah.

928
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, after the Order of Melchizedek so and it's and

929
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:56,360
it's really interesting too, the idea of the the the

930
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,199
king priest, right, because Satan has the throne, but he

931
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:00,000
also had the stone.

932
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:01,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, both going on.

933
00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:05,599
Speaker 5: So again it's really, you know it, we get little

934
00:53:05,679 --> 00:53:10,000
glimpses into really how high ranking he was.

935
00:53:10,639 --> 00:53:12,159
Speaker 2: And he talks about him being in the midst of

936
00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:15,039
the stone of Fire, and you know.

937
00:53:16,519 --> 00:53:19,119
Speaker 5: Many you know, again, the masoretic texts says that he

938
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:24,239
was a cheru beam. I actually ascribed to the Subtuagin

939
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,119
text that talks about him saying he was with the

940
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,639
cherub beam. And I think that speaks to his position

941
00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:32,239
because that charity and I believe are creatures just like

942
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,360
we have elephants and or whatever creature I believe in heaven.

943
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,920
Again they have they're more like heavenly wrung creatures rather

944
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,440
than the more human like sons of God. And so,

945
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,960
but they are at God's thrown right God. They surround

946
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,760
God thrown God rides on Cherabiam wherever you see God appearing,

947
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,400
especially in the book of Ezekiel, they're right under him.

948
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 2: And so.

949
00:53:56,079 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 5: Satan's position being with the cherub speaks to him being,

950
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I believe, one of the high ranking angels who get

951
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,360
to be right at the throne of God. And if

952
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,679
you think about it, it goes right back to the

953
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,440
Gospels with John the Baptist. You know, when Gabriel goes

954
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,039
to speak to Zakias, announced, hey, your wife is going

955
00:54:15,079 --> 00:54:18,559
to give birth to the forerunner of the Messiah. And

956
00:54:18,679 --> 00:54:22,880
outside's akis it is the keya Zacharias. Zacharaias's father doesn't

957
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,800
believe him, you know, he doesn't believe him, of course,

958
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:30,000
And and Gabriel says, I am Gabriel, who stands before

959
00:54:30,039 --> 00:54:33,559
the throne of God. So he's he's checking him. He's

960
00:54:33,639 --> 00:54:36,519
what we do, you know, he's g checking him. He's saying, look,

961
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:38,679
you don't know who you're talking to. I'm one of

962
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,400
the few get to actually stand at the throne where

963
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,760
the cherubim are and the stones of fire. And so

964
00:54:45,159 --> 00:54:46,639
that's why I'm gonna you know what, You're not going

965
00:54:46,679 --> 00:54:48,320
to speak now for the next nine months, since you

966
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,599
even tried to insult me like that. And so that's

967
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,280
so I think that's where Lucifer was right there. I

968
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,920
think that's what That's what I think is he goes

969
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,840
twenty is telling us that he was one of those

970
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,599
who gets to stand at the throne where the charby

971
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:05,719
mare with them, and obviously he falls until the nickody

972
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,559
was found in him and he fell. But it shows

973
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:12,199
how he was so close to being you know, that

974
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,639
idea that he was also a king on earth and

975
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,599
priests at the same time when he was still in

976
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:18,480
his righteous service.

977
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. In the Book of Joshua, I talked about it.

978
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,239
In the book I threw out another little postulation theory

979
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:28,679
was in Joshua. It says that Satan was at the

980
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:35,039
right hand of the throne. And then you get into Revelation,

981
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:41,039
it says at Jesus's ascension, it says that, you know,

982
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,639
when the war breaks out in heaven, you know, and

983
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,000
Satan's cast out, and it said a third of the

984
00:55:47,039 --> 00:55:49,559
angels was swept down, or the stars of heaven was

985
00:55:49,639 --> 00:55:54,159
swept down. That Jesus comes up at the right hand

986
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,960
of the throne and takes the scroll. But when they're

987
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,760
swept down. It has this little comment that I kind

988
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,880
of latched on to, and it says that when Satan

989
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,760
was thrown down, it was because there was no longer

990
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,960
a place for him. Yeah, and where was his place?

991
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,360
According to Joshua, he was at the right hand. Why

992
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:17,880
was there no longer a place for him at the

993
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:22,199
right hand? Because now Jesus was there. We traded the

994
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,760
accuser of the brethren at the right hand of the

995
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,199
Father day and night for the inecessor of all humanity

996
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,199
at the right hand of the Father day and night.

997
00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:36,639
Speaker 5: Let's go. Let's go. Now we're talking. That's That's what

998
00:56:36,679 --> 00:56:39,119
I'm talking about. This is this is you know, I

999
00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:41,119
just want to tell the Prometheus Lane's audience. Here, you're

1000
00:56:41,159 --> 00:56:46,920
getting some this is like out of a bone in

1001
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:48,840
ribby stick. You're getting right now.

1002
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,199
Speaker 2: That carmel is that that marblization going on? There is

1003
00:56:55,199 --> 00:56:57,480
this is some real Metah. That's good. That's good stuff.

1004
00:56:57,519 --> 00:56:58,800
I love that. It's excellent.

1005
00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 3: H I love just getting with guys like you Ryan

1006
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,039
and Uh that just loved digging into this stuff and

1007
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,559
finding these these gold nuggets, man, and these little treasures.

1008
00:57:10,599 --> 00:57:13,760
And because nobody knows dying hearts on joy, but when

1009
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,880
you do find somebody that that shares dying hearts on joy, man,

1010
00:57:18,639 --> 00:57:23,960
you get to you get the feast absolutely absolutely well.

1011
00:57:24,039 --> 00:57:24,719
Uh is there?

1012
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: Uh?

1013
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: Before I let you go? Uh is there? Like like me,

1014
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,039
when I was researching, there was one or two things

1015
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:36,239
that I found that was just completely new information that

1016
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:40,280
just blew my mind that Honestly, that made me like

1017
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,840
pace the floor a little bit, and I had to

1018
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,360
cost a couple of friends and be like, oh my God,

1019
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:48,119
let me tell you this. Uh have you Have you

1020
00:57:48,199 --> 00:57:49,559
had one of those moments yet?

1021
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I've had several.

1022
00:57:55,519 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 5: And Glory to God because honestly, a lot of times

1023
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,840
it's late at night because I do most of my

1024
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:03,840
work very late, and man, I just get on my

1025
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,960
knees and sometimes in tears and just thank God. I

1026
00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:10,400
just say God, I just just thank you for revealing

1027
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,320
these things to me because I don't even know where

1028
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,280
it's coming from. That stumble upon things or find an

1029
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,519
old quote that links up with some inscription. It just

1030
00:58:17,519 --> 00:58:21,400
blows my mind because I've never even considered it before.

1031
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:27,199
Speaker 3: M Yeah, those are amazing moments. Man. Like I said,

1032
00:58:27,199 --> 00:58:29,000
this is my first book, but I mean I've had

1033
00:58:29,079 --> 00:58:33,239
little moments like that, man, just stumbling upon stuff like that,

1034
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,199
and I make those connections and it is it's, uh,

1035
00:58:36,679 --> 00:58:40,039
I kind of correlated to people that are football fans

1036
00:58:40,159 --> 00:58:42,800
or basketball fans and that last minute buzzer shot and

1037
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,599
you jump up, oh man, and you just have to

1038
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:47,639
walk back and forth through the house for a little

1039
00:58:47,639 --> 00:58:49,079
while and walk it.

1040
00:58:49,159 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 2: Off exactly exactly.

1041
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, brother, man, thank you so much for your time.

1042
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:01,039
I definitely appreciate it, and I trace these moments brother,

1043
00:59:01,159 --> 00:59:04,480
and I love you. I'm proud of what you're doing. Man.

1044
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:06,960
Keep doing what you're doing for the Lord and the Kingdom. Man,

1045
00:59:07,159 --> 00:59:10,800
and I pray God keeps blessing you and you and

1046
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,599
your family. Man. Before we go, let everybody know that

1047
00:59:15,559 --> 00:59:18,960
don't know where they can find your website, you books,

1048
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,760
any kind of things you want to plug around now.

1049
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 5: So it's all Judgment the Nephilim you can find the

1050
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:29,800
judgmentlefilm dot com is my website. It's also my Instagram,

1051
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,280
my Facebook, my YouTube channel, so you can find lots

1052
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,280
of content there. We're saying in the pre roll. You know,

1053
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,840
I have hours and hours of content on YouTube where

1054
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,039
I go. I have a whole seven part Nephilum series.

1055
00:59:43,159 --> 00:59:46,199
I have my Thursday night theology show that has covers

1056
00:59:46,239 --> 00:59:48,960
all sorts of topics, just very similar to promethiaus Lenes.

1057
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:54,800
We get into everything supernatural, obscure and Esoterican scripture and beyond.

1058
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,360
My books you can find either on my website. They're

1059
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,119
available on Amazon as well and ebook audible all that

1060
01:00:02,159 --> 01:00:05,559
good stuff. And also I have documentaries too, So I

1061
01:00:05,599 --> 01:00:08,400
have documentaries on both of my books, Judgment of the Nefilim,

1062
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,679
Secrets of the Pre Flood World and the Final nephil

1063
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:11,840
Battle for.

1064
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 2: Heaven and Earth. High level overviews.

1065
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,639
Speaker 5: But yeah, if you put in Judgment the Nefilim or

1066
01:00:15,719 --> 01:00:17,840
put it in Ryan Pitterson, you're gonna find me. But yeah,

1067
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,920
all that's out there and available, and lots of new

1068
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,920
projects and content coming this year, So very excited for

1069
01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:27,079
the first one being I'll put a plug in because

1070
01:00:27,079 --> 01:00:29,519
I'm meeting with some of the people I collaborated in

1071
01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:30,280
a couple of weeks.

1072
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 3: Is.

1073
01:00:32,639 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 5: So this is actually the seven year anniversary of Judgment

1074
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,400
of the Nephilim, so there's gonna be a seven year

1075
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,679
anniversary edition. It's gonna have lots of a bonus chapter

1076
01:00:42,719 --> 01:00:45,280
as well as about ten hours of video content in

1077
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,760
the book. So I put video content in my books

1078
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,119
through QR cod Is to get that. But also the

1079
01:00:50,159 --> 01:00:53,079
Spanish version is also coming out too, so that translation

1080
01:00:53,239 --> 01:00:57,320
is done. It has about five hours of Spanish content.

1081
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,360
I was very blessed to work with two women who

1082
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,440
do ministry and podcasts on the Supernatural, so they're speaking

1083
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:04,039
in Spanish.

1084
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 2: I'm speaking in English and subtitles.

1085
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,639
Speaker 5: But they did a phenomenal, phenomenal job, and it's almost

1086
01:01:08,679 --> 01:01:11,679
like a separate documentary because we got into so many

1087
01:01:11,719 --> 01:01:14,000
topics beyond we talked about the rapture, the one hundred

1088
01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:17,199
and forty four thousand, I mean, things way beyond the.

1089
01:01:17,559 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: Content of the book. So that's coming out as well.

1090
01:01:20,519 --> 01:01:22,679
Speaker 5: So yeah, so lots of exciting things in the way,

1091
01:01:22,679 --> 01:01:25,159
and of course this new book and many other projects

1092
01:01:25,159 --> 01:01:26,599
coming out this year.

1093
01:01:26,679 --> 01:01:31,039
Speaker 3: So yeah, man, exciting times, man. And I know those

1094
01:01:31,079 --> 01:01:34,920
two sisters that you're talking about, I'm follow them stuff

1095
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:35,960
on social media.

1096
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,039
Speaker 5: Right Beck Gallinara and sister Marcilla.

1097
01:01:39,239 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1098
01:01:39,559 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 5: So yeah, so they did it. They did an awesome,

1099
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,280
awesome job. So I can't wait to get that book out.

1100
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:46,400
And I'm going to see them in a couple of

1101
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,559
weeks to do our little final meetings before we get

1102
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,199
you know, start launching it and getting on not just

1103
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,000
English speaking podcasts and shows, but also Spanish speaking so

1104
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,119
they can get it really out to the Spanish community.

1105
01:01:56,159 --> 01:01:57,199
Speaker 2: So that's going to be exciting.

1106
01:01:58,159 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah man. Yeah, me and Marcilla, we've been how can

1107
01:02:00,639 --> 01:02:03,719
she recently about my book and she's been a big

1108
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,639
encourager of mine. She's told me she's when she finishes

1109
01:02:06,679 --> 01:02:08,840
the book, she she wants to talk with me and stuff.

1110
01:02:09,039 --> 01:02:13,239
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, out she is, she is, she is deep.

1111
01:02:13,519 --> 01:02:15,440
I mean we had some you know, she because we

1112
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,519
got to when they came up here to record. They

1113
01:02:18,559 --> 01:02:20,920
came to Dallas to record at a studio I do

1114
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:25,000
a lot of my video work at and uh and

1115
01:02:25,039 --> 01:02:27,599
they and and and it was great. We we I

1116
01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:29,079
mean it was it was one of those dinners where

1117
01:02:29,079 --> 01:02:31,079
it was like a triple date because they were all

1118
01:02:31,079 --> 01:02:33,639
past their pastor couples, so they came to their husband

1119
01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:35,800
with my wife and boy, that was like we could

1120
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,599
we could have recorded that dinner for all the discussion. Actually,

1121
01:02:39,679 --> 01:02:42,920
that could have been an episode in his own So

1122
01:02:43,079 --> 01:02:45,480
it was a really we had some really really great

1123
01:02:45,519 --> 01:02:48,360
discussions just outside of the actual work we were doing.

1124
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 2: So I love them.

1125
01:02:50,039 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 5: Can't wait to see him again in a couple of

1126
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,199
weeks down to Miami. I'm gonna be there with the family.

1127
01:02:54,199 --> 01:02:55,840
We're all going on link up and so it's gonna

1128
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,039
be Uh, it's gonna be It's an exciting project. So

1129
01:02:58,199 --> 01:03:00,199
and I'm looking forward to getting your book and have

1130
01:03:00,239 --> 01:03:02,559
you on my podcast. I can't wait to read it,

1131
01:03:02,599 --> 01:03:05,440
and I want to definitely have you on my podcast,

1132
01:03:05,519 --> 01:03:07,880
which I'm going to launch in about a couple of weeks.

1133
01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 3: So sweet man, well what about the before? I let

1134
01:03:13,039 --> 01:03:14,639
you go? Because I didn't ask, do you have a

1135
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:16,280
title for you?

1136
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,679
Speaker 5: So right now, the working title, the working title of

1137
01:03:18,679 --> 01:03:20,440
my new book is The Earth Before.

1138
01:03:20,159 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 3: Adam nice man.

1139
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:23,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1140
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:28,199
Speaker 3: Like, well, guys, man, I hope you enjoyed the episode.

1141
01:03:28,679 --> 01:03:31,360
Be sure to check out Brian's stuff and if you've

1142
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,360
not went through the back catalog, I've got at least

1143
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:39,159
two or three different episodes with Ryan. We've had several

1144
01:03:39,199 --> 01:03:42,400
conversations already, and also on the dig Bible podcast we've

1145
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,239
had him on quite a few times. We got a

1146
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,000
lot of good conversations throughout the years, so be sure

1147
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,079
to check those out. If you're just new to the

1148
01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:55,639
channel checking this out, guys, behave As always, the difference

1149
01:03:55,679 --> 01:04:02,000
between the known and the unknown is the journey. It's

1150
01:04:02,039 --> 01:04:03,000
a good journey, guys.

1151
01:04:10,719 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: M