WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:08.400 Hey, folks, I'm good evening. Welcome again to another money 2 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:11.880 space with me calu Aja. Of course in this space 3 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:16.199 we're talking money, the economy and finance. Want to make 4 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:18.600 it personal to you, you know, make you a better 5 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:22.719 invester and a better citizen. Right this week we're going 6 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:25.559 slightly it's mainly off topic. I think it's more it's 7 00:00:25.559 --> 00:00:30.760 a very very good topic because immigration for centuries has 8 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:35.439 been a way that communities and individuals have sought out 9 00:00:35.479 --> 00:00:39.159 a better life for themselves, for their families. So when 10 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:44.280 you talk about financial planning, immigrating, immigration, it's a part 11 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:46.640 of a financial plan. You want to go somewhere else 12 00:00:46.679 --> 00:00:50.119 to learn, to earn, to learn a trade, and then 13 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:53.399 come back and use what you've learned to start a business. 14 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:56.719 It's all part of this whole big financial plan. I 15 00:00:56.719 --> 00:00:59.719 don't know if financial plan is in decades not in months. 16 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:03.560 So we decided to talk this week really about you know, immigration. 17 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:06.480 You know what's going on with If you put the 18 00:01:06.519 --> 00:01:09.599 news on, there's a lot happening. Of course, America has 19 00:01:09.640 --> 00:01:13.640 its own different animal. Europe a lot of changs in Europe. 20 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:16.760 How you can go to Europe? What just a lot 21 00:01:16.840 --> 00:01:20.280 is going on and we need an expert right to 22 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:23.560 break through all that you know, FUS and to give 23 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:26.239 us just the process, you know, the legal process. What 24 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:28.400 do we need to know? What do we need to do? 25 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:30.840 You know, so that if we are planning to go 26 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:33.200 to school abroad, I want to emigrate to live with 27 00:01:33.239 --> 00:01:35.760 our partner, or want to just move for a better life, 28 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:38.359 which is not illegal, right, we want to know the 29 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:40.959 way to do it. So this week I brought in 30 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:43.799 a guest. I consider her a friend now she's always 31 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:45.920 on my Space and I'm very, very happy that she 32 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:51.719 has allowed us to partner on this. Her name is Claudine. 33 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:55.359 I think she's from Rwanda. It's from Rwanda. Claudine. You 34 00:01:55.400 --> 00:01:58.599 want to unmute, sort of introduce yourself to the community, 35 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:00.599 and then you know it's going to be at space. 36 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:03.319 I did have tons of questions. We'll just sort of 37 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:05.239 start off. What you've got the floor? How are you 38 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:05.719 doing today? 39 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:08.800 Thank you? How are you I'm doing. 40 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:13.800 I'm doing very well. You are come from the US? Correct? 41 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:15.439 Yes? 42 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:21.919 Perfect? So I had shared Clothing's email, sorry, her firm, 43 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:24.840 her law firms link on to the page. I'm going 44 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:27.039 to share it again on my pitching case. You'd like 45 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:29.599 to full up with her after the session, that would 46 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:32.240 be fantastic. What do you want to do a brief introduction? 47 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:38.360 Yeah, yes, hi, if you are good, good afternoon, good morning, 48 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:43.479 the evening. You know where each and each view is. 49 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:48.360 My name is Claudine here Gasana. I am more originally 50 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:52.479 from Rwanda, but I'm also a US citizen and I'm 51 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:55.639 based in the US right now for the last almost 52 00:02:55.639 --> 00:03:01.039 eighteen years. I am an immigration attorney only licensed to 53 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:07.840 New York, Texas, and I practice in federal District court 54 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:11.120 in statehourt make me innovation. 55 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:12.960 Law, but I do a little bit of family law. 56 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:19.400 In some employment law. But my specialization for the last 57 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:23.879 time seventeen years is in immigrationion. 58 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:29.159 So I'm I am a mother and a wife. I 59 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:33.840 have two children. So I'm happy to be here today 60 00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:35.840 with Carlo. I follow his spaces. 61 00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:42.400 I'm very interested in African growth, in Africans, and I 62 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:46.360 have to tell you the majority of my clients are 63 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:49.599 from Africa, so of course you know I'm very close 64 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:51.039 to the African community. 65 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:56.080 Perfect. Well, we're glad to have you here, glad to here. 66 00:03:56.240 --> 00:03:59.400 Let's jump straight into it sort of could you summarize 67 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:03.159 for us what are the processes for immigration to DC. 68 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:06.479 Let's use the US as a case study. If I 69 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:09.879 want to emigrate to the US, what are the legal 70 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:13.000 pathways and what are the types of immigration joy US 71 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:16.360 as a summary, like I'm a twenty five year old 72 00:04:16.360 --> 00:04:19.240 guy in ninetyag to school. What is the process more 73 00:04:19.319 --> 00:04:20.759 or less right? 74 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:29.920 So, the process of immigration is under the Immigration Nationality Art, 75 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:32.839 which is a law that was. 76 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:35.319 Enacted in nineteen fifty two. You know. 77 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:42.959 That government in immigration here in the United States. Of course, 78 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:46.240 they have been amendments, they have been added laws and 79 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:49.920 regulations to the process. 80 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:54.079 So immigrant or immigrant in the United. 81 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:59.839 States, there are different pathways. There is support that she 82 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:04.240 through family family immigration. For example, if you are you 83 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:05.319 a citizen. 84 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:09.279 You marry, you have. 85 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:11.800 The right to marry whoever you want and then bring 86 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:16.959 them on through marriage. So now if you have a 87 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:20.480 a if you also have parents who are not citizens, 88 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:23.839 you can also bring them to the United States. Is 89 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:29.800 immediate relatives Once if you have a law for parent 90 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:35.000 resident residency, you can petition for your spouse and children 91 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:39.319 under twenty one. So that there's basically that's one aspect 92 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:42.240 family sponsorship, either. 93 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:45.279 Through a citizen or a law for family resident. 94 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:52.639 There's also employer sponsorship employment sponsorship which include work visas 95 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:56.920 and includes the work visa can go or for work 96 00:05:57.000 --> 00:05:59.959 visa to also becoming a resident and they are becoming 97 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:00.639 a citizen. 98 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:05.839 There is coming here as a student. You know, some. 99 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:08.879 People, a lot of people in Nigela, for example, they come. 100 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:13.040 Here on student business. And you know, you go to school. 101 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:21.160 To university or college. After each category of graduation, you 102 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:24.680 are allowed one year of practical training and you can 103 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:29.160 continue on. And that's how most are employed and the 104 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:33.600 employer really takes interest in you. There was sponsor your 105 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:37.600 Green carts. Green card is a common residency through sponsorship. 106 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:41.600 By the way, you know, we are on X which 107 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:43.920 is in a mass platform right now. 108 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:46.680 He also took that path. 109 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:50.480 You know, he became as a student and then he later 110 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:51.480 became a. 111 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:53.720 Resident and then became a citizen. 112 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:59.399 So did President Trump's wife, Millennia Trump, although she was 113 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:02.720 on a hron B which is a work visa, and. 114 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:07.680 Then she became a Green card holder. 115 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:13.519 So there's employee employment sponsorship also has a component of 116 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:18.600 self petitioner, like you can saf petition if you demonstrate 117 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:22.160 that it is in the national interest for the United 118 00:07:22.199 --> 00:07:26.800 States to waive the employer sponsorship because of your achievement. 119 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:30.759 For example, I was talking about Milannia Trump. She sponsored 120 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:35.079 through eby one A, which is an act ability for 121 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:37.600 I think she was in one B because she was 122 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:45.839 in the modeling and entertainment. There's also sponsorship through investment 123 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:48.959 if you invest in. 124 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:55.759 A lot of amount of money, million dollars and you. 125 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:56.759 Create jobs million. 126 00:07:56.839 --> 00:08:02.560 Also, yeah, it's a very millions. Now they increased. It's 127 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:09.000 called EB five. You can also get a green card 128 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:13.160 or permanent residency or conditional residency, and then within two 129 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:16.560 years if you if you show that you have created 130 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:21.600 ten jobs, then you'll be able to get a permanent 131 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:22.759 residence card. 132 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:26.000 There's but there's. 133 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:29.680 Also non immigrant visas, right, so we talked about work visas. 134 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:32.679 There's different ways we hear about H one B. There 135 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:35.720 are different types of artists like oh one, you know, 136 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:42.519 I like to talk about maybe some African celebrities, for example. 137 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:47.480 Uh, Trevor Noa, Right, he came here on one visa. 138 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:50.279 I don't know if he continued to become a Green 139 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:51.000 card holder or. 140 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:53.000 If he just kept his own one or now I 141 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:56.200 don't know now if he's in the United states, you know, 142 00:08:56.320 --> 00:09:00.480 like actors like Peter and Jongle, like all those people 143 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:05.879 who achieve a certain level of accomplishment, they. 144 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:06.679 Have their own type of business. 145 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:10.000 They can go from all one and then to eby 146 00:09:10.039 --> 00:09:13.279 one which is employment based safe petition. You don't need 147 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:16.960 a sponsor because of your achievements. They are also scientists to. 148 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:18.759 Like people who are. 149 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:24.279 Researchers, engineers. I work with engineers, researchers. 150 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:27.480 It you know, we are in the air. And now 151 00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:31.039 a lot of people from actually Nigeria. 152 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:34.679 I have some Nigerian clients who are very very smart. 153 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:40.399 And then they don't need sponsorship, they safe petitions. And 154 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:45.879 then last but not least, there is the human human Inellian. 155 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:47.759 Aspect of immigration. 156 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:53.639 That's where you find asylum you know, refugee stylus, and 157 00:09:53.759 --> 00:09:58.360 you find temporary protected status, you find a role, you know, 158 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:05.279 like the p were given to people from Haiti, from Ukraine, 159 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:11.440 Afghanistan from TPS. For one, they used to have a 160 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:13.879 TPS back in nineteen ninety four for a short period 161 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:17.679 of time. Like people in not Sudan they had a 162 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:19.679 tpis because of what's going. 163 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:20.200 On in the country. 164 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:23.519 There's dis temporary protected start as they give to those 165 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:31.679 individuals only human human Italian grounds. So yeah, to be brief, 166 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:35.360 those are the categories where someone can come to the 167 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:37.919 United States. Of course you can come to visit and 168 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:40.960 go you need a visa. That's not an immigrant that's 169 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:45.720 coming to visit. It's not like to immigrate in the US. 170 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:49.559 I mean it's a lot I hear you talk about investing. 171 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:51.759 If I have a million dollars, I can come. If 172 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:56.000 I'm smart, I can come. If someone is married, I 173 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:58.320 can come. If I want to go to school, I 174 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:01.799 can come and then stay here. Lots of pathways are 175 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:06.840 to come. So what's going in America right now? So 176 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:12.039 it's legal to emigrate to America, right that's just because 177 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:14.360 people get confused and upset or they don't want to come. 178 00:11:14.679 --> 00:11:16.879 So there are lots of ways to come to America, 179 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:19.159 and American government wants you to come to America. That's 180 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:19.720 what I'm hearing. 181 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:24.759 Yeah, So, I mean the laws are still on the books. 182 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:24.960 You know. 183 00:11:25.159 --> 00:11:27.200 You have to understand the president does not make the 184 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:28.519 law in the United States. 185 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:33.960 The Congress votes, and so what. 186 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:37.919 The president does is implement the laws he has to. 187 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:42.519 He plays within the boundaries of the law, the existing laws. 188 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:47.480 So that's why you see some of the executive actions 189 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:51.279 he has taken have been you know, shut down some 190 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:54.840 people he deported, they brought them back in the US 191 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:58.120 because he cannot it can go beyond the law. So 192 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:04.080 the immigration is continuing. The you know, the life if 193 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:07.120 you are married to your citizens. Altho, we're gonna speak 194 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:13.600 about the visa band that's happening. But generally, if your 195 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:19.200 country is not subject to their travel band, you everything 196 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:22.960 is you. It's normal, you know, if you come legally 197 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:27.399 in the United States. But however, of course there is 198 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:30.240 a height of deportations. 199 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:32.320 That also people who. 200 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:37.919 Have a residency that they have a green pard if 201 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:42.279 they have some type of criminal record, once they leave 202 00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:45.600 and they can't attempt to come back. Sometimes they are 203 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:48.679 detained because you have a criminal record, and then you know, 204 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:54.080 you have to go through bonds and maybe to clear 205 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:56.720 that issue before you are released. 206 00:12:57.759 --> 00:12:59.919 But yeah, but the calces are gone. I mean, you know, 207 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:02.159 we're not out of business, gotcha. 208 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:04.639 And again, guys, if you know this is this is 209 00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:07.080 not my suits in my wheelhouse. So if you have 210 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:09.240 a question, just in the d M or request to 211 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:11.799 speak on the mic, and I argue and we're going 212 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:14.360 to learn here together. So so let me come back 213 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:17.759 to you. So I'm a citizen of Nigeria. Then I 214 00:13:17.879 --> 00:13:20.559 go to the US, stay to school, and I get 215 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.600 my visa as a school person. Then I can then 216 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:28.720 get sponsored for one year and I get my guy 217 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:31.639 likes me, the player likes me. I get my green card, 218 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:34.600 and I'm in the US. So from my green card, 219 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:37.360 what happens do I can stay the green card forever 220 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:39.799 or can I don't say I want to be a citizen. 221 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:41.159 What is that process as well? 222 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:46.240 Okay, so there's a you just jumped to the green card. 223 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:47.720 So there's a process. 224 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:50.159 Between oh this, take us back, take us back. 225 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:50.399 Yeah. 226 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:56.559 So if you are accepted for college or higher education 227 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:01.879 the school, after they find that you know all your credentials, 228 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.039 they give you a form called I twenty. 229 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:09.080 So the I twenty is basically a firm that said 230 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:12.120 you have to show to the embassy. 231 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:15.240 Loop I have admission. I have completed all the requirements 232 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:15.919 to the school. 233 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:19.200 Now I need a visa. So you apply for a visa. 234 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:22.440 If you're an AGA and legos, you know, you go 235 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:26.120 to the embassy and you have to go through the interview. 236 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:31.799 So school student visa is tied. 237 00:14:32.279 --> 00:14:35.039 When you apply for student visa, you are not supposed 238 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:38.080 to have an immigrant immigrant intent. 239 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:41.200 Basically, you have to show Okay, yes I'm going to. 240 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:44.480 The United States, but I have ties in my home country, 241 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:48.759 I have a financial support, like I'm not. 242 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:51.080 Going to be depending on the US government to support me. 243 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:54.399 So once they verify that the embassy, we. 244 00:14:55.919 --> 00:14:58.200 Grant you the student visa. 245 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:02.720 The student visa is issued on what's called duration of status, 246 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:05.679 meaning like the eye twenty you have, yes, you know 247 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:09.480 certain such is coming. For the program of a bachelor's 248 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:13.840 degree in engineering, it's going to be four five years. 249 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:16.440 So once you arrive, you have to go to school. 250 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:17.120 You have to. 251 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:19.879 Attend a full full time you have to be a 252 00:15:19.919 --> 00:15:24.200 full time of course study. So that's one of the requirements. 253 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:29.720 Most people they violate the status when they arrive in 254 00:15:29.759 --> 00:15:33.919 the US and then they are not pursuing the school. 255 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:37.559 And if you don't show up at school, because that 256 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:40.240 eye twenty is connected to the to ice, it is 257 00:15:40.279 --> 00:15:44.440 connected to them. It's called how it's called service service. 258 00:15:45.080 --> 00:15:50.039 Let me tell you what service means. It's a verification. 259 00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:56.480 Let me say in full wards so we can I 260 00:15:56.679 --> 00:15:58.360 never memorize it. 261 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:10.360 Yeah, it's a student, Student and Exchange Visitors Verification system, 262 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:15.320 so which means all they so not all colleges and 263 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:23.759 all universities have are eligible to host international students. Those 264 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:26.799 colleges and universities even high school. 265 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:33.000 But you know that's another topic. All educational institutions. 266 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:37.559 Who are eligible to host international students, they have to 267 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:42.559 have a s e VP, like the Student and Exchange 268 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:48.960 Verification Program with ICE. ICE is Immigration and Customs Enforcement, 269 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:54.480 so they communicate, Okay, yes, Calu has been granted the 270 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:57.720 student visa. You arrive in the US system that you 271 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:01.200 arrived today, you have to be to show up at 272 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:04.279 school within thirty days. If you don't show up at school, 273 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:06.799 I is going to show in the system and the 274 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:10.039 ICE is going to contact your college. Hey WhatsApp, but 275 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:11.519 we didn't see Calu. 276 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:12.680 Did he show up? No? 277 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:17.279 If you don't, then in your service record is terminated. 278 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:19.839 You know, like you are in valiation. 279 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:22.680 So you have to attend school and the schools have 280 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:26.920 to always report back. Yes, they're SI pursuing a full 281 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:31.599 time course. So once you finish a program, you know, 282 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:35.359 say a four year program, you are given one year 283 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:39.640 of employment Employment organization. 284 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:46.480 If you are in the STEM program like science, Technology, engineering, 285 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:47.000 and maths. 286 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:51.160 After one year you and if you work with the company, 287 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:55.519 that's very fine, like that's another government program. 288 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:59.920 Then you're allowed an additional two years of work. Right, 289 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:01.359 so you're. 290 00:18:01.240 --> 00:18:07.119 Already working under student visa, but is a practical training 291 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:11.920 like internship typle. So after that, if you if you 292 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:15.640 choose to pursue a master's program, you can go back 293 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:18.240 to school getting your I twenty. You don't need to 294 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:21.599 go change your visa again. Your visa is issued for 295 00:18:21.720 --> 00:18:24.559 duration of status, meaning for the duration of your studies 296 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:31.039 and after your master's program. You all with while you 297 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:34.839 are pursuing your master's program. If you get an employer 298 00:18:34.920 --> 00:18:39.799 to sponsor your visa, your green card, your residency, or 299 00:18:39.799 --> 00:18:44.680 your work visa, you could be dealing with it work 300 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:46.880 visa h R and B that's basically h R and 301 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:54.079 B is the most common employment visa for for people 302 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:54.880 for people. 303 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:56.960 With a bachelor's degree or above. 304 00:18:57.200 --> 00:19:00.480 But we only have a few per years, have like 305 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:05.240 sixty five thousand for bachelor's degree and then there's another 306 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:10.720 pool for twenty thousand for US masters. So there's always 307 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:15.519 a lot going on throughout the year, which by the way, Trump, 308 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:18.759 they are trying to change how they are selecting people 309 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:21.960 that they will try to do that based on salary. 310 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:24.079 Which is going to affect. 311 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:28.559 College graduates because hn B is really for college graduates 312 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:32.920 for like you know, new students who just international students 313 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:39.160 who just used their school and they need employment sponsorship. 314 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:42.160 So if you are likely to get H and B 315 00:19:42.359 --> 00:19:45.160 to get sponsored by an employer, your H one B 316 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:50.200 is a nonimial visa like temporary, is valid for six years. 317 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:55.160 Within those six years, normally what happens, you know us companies, 318 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:58.599 if you work everywhere, I mean one hundred percent. 319 00:19:58.440 --> 00:20:01.039 Really almost a hundred percent, there was as a breaker. 320 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:05.559 Like employment based and then you get your BREAKERD from 321 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:08.480 the company. You have to work for the company, and 322 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:11.720 then after five years you will because you apply for 323 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:16.519 your citizenship or if within that time you meet a 324 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:20.359 you know your fiances, you're a citizen, or even if 325 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:24.799 you had older they can petition for your marriage petition 326 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:31.160 and then you can obtain your citizenship through marriage instead 327 00:20:31.160 --> 00:20:32.039 of employment. 328 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:35.839 Yeah, so basically that's the process will be. 329 00:20:35.960 --> 00:20:39.319 Oh, if you are very bright, which you know it 330 00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:42.839 happens sometimes some kids are very smart and they during 331 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:43.880 their bachelor's degree. 332 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:46.400 After those those years they give them to work. 333 00:20:46.559 --> 00:20:50.559 They stand out and they go get their master's degree 334 00:20:50.599 --> 00:20:54.359 as well. They are able to petition for themselves through 335 00:20:54.400 --> 00:20:56.079 the national interest whatever they say. 336 00:20:56.079 --> 00:21:00.720 You go to school and maybe you invent something algorithm, 337 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:06.039 or you publish a study that's very. 338 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:11.519 Needed, its a card engage, then you will be able 339 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:14.680 to save petition. You don't need an employer to petition 340 00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:17.720 for you because it is in the US interest. Chat 341 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:22.039 they keep you in the US because you have benefited 342 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:23.400 from the US education. 343 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:26.039 You have worked in the US. They don't want to 344 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:27.000 do they don't want. 345 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.559 To lose your skills if you are not able to stay. 346 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:32.799 Yeah, all right, So I got a question, some some 347 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:35.720 guesses and the DMS. So number one, someone's asking can 348 00:21:35.799 --> 00:21:38.799 I work on a student visa? Because you said when 349 00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:40.720 you're going to a student visa, you're not going to 350 00:21:40.759 --> 00:21:43.680 depend on the US government for any mean, So can 351 00:21:43.759 --> 00:21:45.880 you work legally as a student if you're on a 352 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:46.519 student visa? 353 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:50.720 So when you're a student visa, you can only work 354 00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:56.799 on campus for twenty hours a minimum on campus if 355 00:21:57.039 --> 00:22:02.400 like in the library, the coffee, you know, in the cafeteria, 356 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:07.119 or work for for professors and professors to Oh there's 357 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:13.119 this thing. There's this optional called cipity, which is curricular 358 00:22:13.279 --> 00:22:18.880 practical training, but that usually happens after definition a bachelor's degree. 359 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:22.440 You can or within your bachelor's degree, like it's like 360 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:25.960 an internship, but I have you have to be go 361 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:30.079 to a college that does CPT, like curricular practical training, 362 00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:35.519 and you need to have a job offer. However, they 363 00:22:35.559 --> 00:22:39.599 could the CIPT takes away from if you if you 364 00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:44.559 choose to work during school using your practical training, it 365 00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:47.519 means upon graduation you're not going to be able to 366 00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:53.079 use it because you passed one one year. So so 367 00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:57.279 those are the options. Or another option is if you 368 00:22:57.279 --> 00:23:01.880 you are eligible for extra extreme hardship for. 369 00:23:01.759 --> 00:23:07.519 Example during okay, like people. 370 00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:10.640 From the people who were here in the United States 371 00:23:10.680 --> 00:23:15.400 from Ukraine right before the war, and they were students 372 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:19.599 on student visa, they were paying their tuition and then 373 00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:22.680 the war happened, they're not able to pay because maybe 374 00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:28.599 their parents whoever was sponsoring them is now unsafe. So 375 00:23:28.640 --> 00:23:34.519 you are you are eligible to apply for extreme hardship 376 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:38.839 so that you can work outside of campus. 377 00:23:39.440 --> 00:23:41.759 I have to be approved for that. Yeah, all right, So. 378 00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:45.680 Someone's asking perfect so that's aecond question. You can get 379 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:48.200 I'm white, wasn't in d answer. They're trying to speak. 380 00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:51.440 So someone's asking a question again that you mentioned all 381 00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:55.319 the pathways to immigration, but you didn't mention if a 382 00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:59.240 child is born there is that immigration. And I think 383 00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:02.119 it's trying to ask if a student has a child 384 00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:09.559 that proSP Yeah, yeah, so I'm a student. So he's saying, 385 00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:12.759 you didn't mention the presence of a child born in 386 00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:17.759 the US to a student, So is there a part 387 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:18.680 way wants to. 388 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:22.960 Say, so the what so? 389 00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:27.319 Now that's the whole the famous birth right citizenship that. 390 00:24:28.839 --> 00:24:29.640 Executive action. 391 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:36.279 So as as soon as Trump took office, he introduced 392 00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:38.400 an executive action that. 393 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:41.000 Will prevent anyone. 394 00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:46.799 Who is not a US citizen or a primary resident 395 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:51.960 who gives birth in the US. 396 00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:56.480 For that child not to become automatically a US citizen. Basically, uh, 397 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:02.039 if one, you have to have one who is either 398 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:03.279 US citizen or not. 399 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:08.319 For permanent resident people here need to understand too, citizens 400 00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:11.640 and the permanent residents, they have almost the same rights 401 00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:15.240 except maybe two or three. So if you're a commany 402 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:19.200 resident and you are managed to a student international student, and. 403 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:20.039 You have a child. 404 00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:25.119 Under this new executive action, that's when you have your child, 405 00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:29.319 we become a citizen. However, that's an executive action that 406 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:36.720 was struck down by almost all the federal courts because 407 00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:45.200 the President wanted to change the fourteenth Amendment. I believe 408 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:49.039 the fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution, which says 409 00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:55.200 anyone who bought anyone, anyone who is born in the 410 00:25:55.319 --> 00:25:59.599 United States or under the jurisdiction of the United States, 411 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:05.440 meaning even in Puerto Rico or a US airplane, that 412 00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:07.319 person is a citizen. 413 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:11.799 So basically in the US we don't have or we 414 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:12.359 have both. 415 00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:17.799 We have soilies like like soil. You are given the 416 00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:21.079 citizenship by soil because you are born on this on 417 00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:25.319 day in the United States, or you are born of 418 00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:26.680 US citizens. 419 00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:27.519 So we have both. 420 00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:32.279 But the President wants to change that to only to 421 00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:36.079 be born if you are born in the US from 422 00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:40.079 a US citizen or a permanentlyitadam at least one parent. 423 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:44.680 So as of today, anyone who is born in the 424 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:48.200 United States, except those who are not under the jurisdiction, 425 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:52.000 for example children of diplomats, they are not automatically US 426 00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:54.720 citizens because the diplomats that they are not ounder distraisdiction 427 00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:58.039 of the United States. But if you are born from 428 00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:02.279 a citizen, I mean a Green Can holder, a student, 429 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:06.599 a visitor, you are a US. So he has not 430 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:11.119 been able to be to be applicable because they the 431 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:15.960 US Supreme Court has yet to decide and all the 432 00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:21.240 all the jusiction, even those who ate the most read 433 00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:25.240 states where even Trump appointed the JAR, even his own 434 00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:33.680 appointed judges have blocked that controversial executive action editing limiting 435 00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:34.920 bath Right citizenship. 436 00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:38.160 Yeah. Again, I get a lot of people are saying 437 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:40.519 that they would like to get the pathways if it's 438 00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:43.680 written out or repeated, and I'm sure you can repeat 439 00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:45.680 it three times and focusing going to join. 440 00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:48.839 And also go to my website. I really have. 441 00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:52.839 On the on the website. So if I'm on the website, 442 00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:55.839 where do I see those pathways? Like I'm on the website. 443 00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:00.359 So if you've got the website, there's employment based family the. 444 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.720 Okay, Okay, I see, okay, so you'll. 445 00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:05.319 Be able to see the pathways. 446 00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:07.920 So is it where you have where you have services, 447 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.000 where you have business solutions refuge y, Yeah, so. 448 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:16.599 The services we have different, we have even blogs. Yeah, 449 00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:22.599 there are different scenarios to immigrate, and what the strongest 450 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:27.440 one I would say is through if you like, if 451 00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:30.680 you're a student, right if it's international student, to be 452 00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:35.000 able to keep your international student status and work through 453 00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:39.559 the opportunities, the opity and of course here in the 454 00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:44.799 US you have to network to stand up. Most people 455 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:48.079 oould say, I mean, you know calling from. 456 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:49.960 Nigeria and Nigerias really are very. 457 00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:55.480 Very right, so they really take advantage of those pathways 458 00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:59.880 a lot, I guess because also nobody's gonna I don't 459 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:01.319 think I've seen them. 460 00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:03.240 In people apply for asylum from Nigeria. 461 00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:07.720 I know someone that did. Maybe it's a case study 462 00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:10.480 for you. I know a lady that also big of 463 00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:12.119 domestic balance in Nigeria. 464 00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:17.960 Those are the issues that will be granted asylum, the 465 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:20.039 issues of domestic violence and. 466 00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:23.279 You know the taboo. But like no polilical, not nothing. 467 00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:27.119 I say that one is not going to pass, okay. 468 00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:30.640 So that means then if you are a student, you 469 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.440 have to keep your student visa and then the work. 470 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.359 There are opportunities after you finish school, Like I said, 471 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.079 you get one year of work authorization, like you can 472 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:45.000 work for anybody you can even create your own company, right, 473 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:49.839 and then you know from there you can save petition. 474 00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:57.160 But it's not a fast process, but is a guaranteed process, 475 00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:01.400 right because it could take you years to become before 476 00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:04.240 you become a citizen, but you'll be eligible to work, 477 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:09.359 travel and then you apply for work visas. There are 478 00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:11.240 different visas, like I said, there's a h n B, 479 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:16.359 there's a J one, there's a J visa which is 480 00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:19.759 an exchange visitors visa, and you can find for an 481 00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:22.279 extension change of status in the US. 482 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.400 You don't even have to leave, and the J one 483 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:27.440 from J one you. 484 00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:31.519 Can move to another visa until you are able to 485 00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:33.920 really get your Green card. 486 00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.319 Can I do change of status? If I go as 487 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.960 a forest can I change my status to say immigrants? 488 00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:48.559 So if you go to as a visitor visitors visa 489 00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:52.279 is same as a student visa, you are like I said, 490 00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.240 you are not. It's not a dual intent meaning you 491 00:30:56.240 --> 00:31:01.200 should not have intend to do immigrant. So and then 492 00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:03.960 I don't see how you can go as a visitor. 493 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:06.720 They only give you six months right now. I think 494 00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.920 now for Nigeria, I think they are going to give 495 00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:15.960 you any months one entry, one entry only so you 496 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:17.799 don't really have that much room. 497 00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:20.119 To change to it any immigrant visa. 498 00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:24.519 However, you can change to student visa like you can 499 00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:28.759 move to be one, to change if one, because be 500 00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:33.599 f visitors visa and in the student visa, they are 501 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:38.480 both non your intents, So you can change to I 502 00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:40.359 mean if you're within that time. Of course you are 503 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:44.200 able to find school, so that quite to have come already, 504 00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:50.680 have made some contacts, some other arrangements before you arrive, 505 00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:52.720 because you don't really have that much time. 506 00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:53.599 But you can. 507 00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:56.880 You can extend your visitors visa. You can extend even 508 00:31:56.920 --> 00:31:58.720 if they give you three months, you can come and 509 00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:02.079 file for an extension. They give you up to six 510 00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:05.519 months and you are allowed to extend after one year. 511 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:07.440 Yeah. 512 00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:13.279 So but to go from visitors to immigrants immigrant visa, no, 513 00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:14.839 it's not possible. 514 00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:21.240 Less in some in some few circumstances. 515 00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:25.319 They say you have you were already engaged then, or 516 00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:26.599 you were married, then. 517 00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:27.759 You can find a manage petition. 518 00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:31.079 But they are very school nice because then again you 519 00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:32.519 should not have any intent. 520 00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:36.839 To du all intents. She said. But just to be clear, 521 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.440 I can travel as a tourist to go see San 522 00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:41.759 Francisco and I go to San Francisco and I go 523 00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.920 to Sanford, and I'm intrigued by going to school in Sanford, 524 00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:48.319 and I apply I've become a student in Sanford. That 525 00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:49.240 is allowable. 526 00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.680 Yeah, it is, the only issue would be the time. 527 00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:54.880 The time. If I'm able to get my admission, they 528 00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:55.359 need to. 529 00:32:55.440 --> 00:33:00.359 Extend your visitor's visa so you can make complete the arrangement. 530 00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:02.880 And then switch to F one and I do that 531 00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:04.480 my extension in the States. 532 00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:08.400 Yeah, you can, you so you can change. 533 00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:09.400 It's not automatic. 534 00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:12.519 So on if any change of status, it takes a while. 535 00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:14.880 It takes a few months to get to get processed. 536 00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:20.599 And you can only start school after your if one 537 00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:24.519 change of status is approved, I mean if one is 538 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:25.359 student's business or. 539 00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.039 Not. Okay? In terms yeah, all right. 540 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:32.839 I got a second question again for you. So in 541 00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:35.440 terms of the business in the business path, where you 542 00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:37.559 talked about if I invest in the US, can we 543 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.359 talk more about that? What do I invest? Do I 544 00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:43.799 have to buy a business? If I buy property? Do 545 00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:46.039 I get any it? Does it count? 546 00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:46.440 Like? 547 00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:49.519 What's the talk more on that? On the amount the 548 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.480 process for investing to then get that piece and is 549 00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:55.680 if it's for myself or is it my whole family? 550 00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:58.640 If I invest, do I get for myself? You're just 551 00:33:58.680 --> 00:33:59.480 talking on that place. 552 00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:06.079 So right, so investment, right, so it be five five 553 00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:10.039 used to be five hundred thousand. 554 00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:12.519 And then they moved to like almost a minute. 555 00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:18.840 There are there are two two two options under eighty five. 556 00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:25.079 There is where you invest in a in what it's 557 00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:32.239 called invest with the other investors, right, So it's called 558 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:38.199 the target regional center or if you invest in the 559 00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:42.519 targeted employment areas. They say, oh, you know you go 560 00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:46.679 in the city of Houston and then they say, you 561 00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:52.840 know this area here in southwest it is very or 562 00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:57.559 northwest whatever. It's an area where there's no more business 563 00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.079 has run out, like there's no business going on. 564 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:02.559 So we need investors to come. 565 00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:06.960 And inject some money and build, you know, like maybe 566 00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:12.000 a shopping center so that we can have more business. 567 00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:13.000 Coming in and more employment. 568 00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:18.079 That's a targeted employment area, right. So for that you 569 00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:23.079 are able to you need to invest eight hundred thousand dollars. 570 00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:29.280 So the eight hundred thousand dollars has to come from 571 00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:36.000 an unsecured loans like you cannot be a loan guarantee 572 00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:38.440 you can Basically is money. 573 00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:40.880 You have to show away you got the money for. 574 00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:47.199 You have to trace their funds from the source. You know, 575 00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:50.920 they don't want any funny business like you know, cleaning. 576 00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:55.440 Or whatever money. And you have to be if you. 577 00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:59.679 Lose that eight hundred thousand, you'll be basically you'll burn. 578 00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:04.000 Like it's no guaranteed, so it has to be unsecured funds. 579 00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:08.440 So and then when you inject, you invest in a 580 00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:15.679 hundred thousand dollars, you are you you are given to 581 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:20.119 what two year conditional green card? 582 00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:21.840 Oh okay, so. 583 00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:23.639 Let me see if I'm following just vision. I'm following. 584 00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:26.760 So the target is eight hundred thousand, but if I 585 00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:31.000 invest the first hundred thousand, I get the conditional visa 586 00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:31.800 green card. 587 00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:33.760 So no, so. 588 00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:37.159 What happens some people they say, okay, you have to 589 00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:41.559 show some steps steps in investing that money. 590 00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:44.480 But you have to be able to show like okay, if. 591 00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:48.320 I'm only if you only invested one hundred one hundred. 592 00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:50.199 Thousand, you have to show it. Do you have the 593 00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:54.239 seven hundred thousand readily available? Do you have that? In 594 00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:54.679 x clo? 595 00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.519 Some people put in a screw account, you know, and 596 00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:02.119 the banks have now how to set up an axtquer 597 00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:07.559 account that's not going to be used for something else. 598 00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:12.960 So and then they will give you two year conditional 599 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:16.280 green card, and then in those three years you have 600 00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:21.079 to come and invest a full amount. And after two 601 00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:25.239 years before the expiration of your conditional green card, you 602 00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:30.320 have to fied for a removal of conditions to get 603 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:34.159 the permanent resident card. 604 00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:36.679 And you have to do. 605 00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:40.280 That by showing that not only you have invested them 606 00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:44.280 they found a full eight hundred thousand, but also you 607 00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:49.599 have created jobs. You have created ten jobs, ten US jobs, 608 00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:52.920 which is not hardly like US jobs. I mean, you 609 00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:55.320 know all the contractors you have used. Like if it's 610 00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:58.920 say you're developing a shopping center, that means you have 611 00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:04.519 already hired you know, architect architects. 612 00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.079 You have hired the contractors. 613 00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:09.360 You have the office manner that basically, it's not hard 614 00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:12.719 to show the ten jobs. The hard the hard thing 615 00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:15.800 to do is to be able to show where each 616 00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:18.920 dollar of that eight hundred thousand came from. It has 617 00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:21.320 to be able to trace it all the way to 618 00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:21.800 the source. 619 00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:22.719 I see. 620 00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:26.559 So, yeah, but if you don't investor in the targeted area, 621 00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:29.599 and you have to be careful, it has to be 622 00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:35.440 an approved targeted employment area, like through the states. Some states, 623 00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:37.679 you know, you have to go through the states to 624 00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.000 see which targeted area. You have to get a letter 625 00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:42.480 from the states. So, yeah, this is the target targeted 626 00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:45.719 area of employment. Or you invest in the regional centers, 627 00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:48.599 they are approved the origional centers. The issue with the 628 00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:52.440 regional centers some of them, you know, they because you 629 00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:56.280 are putting money in the pool of other investors. 630 00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:58.360 Sometimes it's hard to see. 631 00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:04.920 Okay, how can you basically prove that your eight hundred 632 00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:11.559 thousand created created created these jobs if your fans have 633 00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:16.400 been put with other funds. Right, So, if you don't 634 00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:21.280 want to deal with the targeted area employment or the 635 00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:26.880 you know, the regional centers, and you have enough money, 636 00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:34.599 you can then invest one million and and fifty thousand 637 00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:37.039 dollars one million, fifty thousand dollars. 638 00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:39.679 And you invest anywhere you want. So you gave an. 639 00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:44.519 Example of building a house. So it's not enough that, Okay, 640 00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:49.880 are coming buy a property, a residential property for one million. No, 641 00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:53.719 it has to be for commercial use, you know, it 642 00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:59.760 has to be development type or like a reested investment, 643 00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:04.280 you know, like it has to have more you have 644 00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:07.480 to be able to show how it is going to business. 645 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:09.840 So you're saying, I can't. I can't buy the house 646 00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:12.119 just to live in my personal house I'm going to 647 00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:15.119 live in. It's got to be a house for for 648 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:17.599 for commerce, for business as an investment in the States. 649 00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:21.840 That's why I hear you say collect yes, okay. And 650 00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:25.920 I think they're also called opportunity zones. This this, that's 651 00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:28.960 why the opportunity zones and what they're calling the US 652 00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:31.000 where you can invest and you get those tax breaks 653 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:31.360 and all that. 654 00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:35.199 Yeah, I mean those are these you know, like states 655 00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:39.519 like in Texas. So I'm gonna give you an exam 656 00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:44.920 for back in twenty I don't know when the whole 657 00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:48.519 Venezuela is would happen. So a lot of people have 658 00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:52.039 invested here in Texas. 659 00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:57.840 A lot of Venezuela. And there were so in areas in. 660 00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:01.679 The north it's northwest or something. 661 00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:04.280 So they were investing in the eighty five. 662 00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:11.440 So because they were the bankers, because usually bankers, banks 663 00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:12.880 don't are very. 664 00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.400 Skeptical if you don't have a green card, if. 665 00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:17.840 You don't have a citizenship, to give you loans, to 666 00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:20.199 even deal with you, because. 667 00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:23.519 Mind you you only have to show that you have. 668 00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:27.199 A hundred thousand, right, but whatever above a hundred thousand 669 00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:28.960 you can get a loan from the bank. 670 00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:35.320 Sill again again I have to speak it's eight a target. 671 00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:37.719 I can do the hundred and get the rest of 672 00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:38.159 the bank. 673 00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:42.079 No, no, no, you have to have a hundred. 674 00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:45.840 Because if it's a big project, so you only have 675 00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:52.199 to show you eight hundred thousand, okay, unsecured. But if 676 00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.199 it's a huge for like a project where you have 677 00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:59.679 a you know like Airbnb's or you're gonna do it 678 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:02.840 of means center like where you have on it's a 679 00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:05.800 huge project, you can you can get a loan from dance. 680 00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:11.880 So and also opportunity zones is where they don't really 681 00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:17.079 the states in terms of state taxes, and Texas is 682 00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:22.920 very good where the endload laws are you know, lenient. 683 00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:24.159 So I think. 684 00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:30.199 Opportunities on is more also regarding the tax session and 685 00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:36.159 whether to get loans and less regulations from the states. 686 00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:39.679 Yeah, okay, perfect, think it has to do with immigration 687 00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:43.880 per perfect. So this share when you said shared investors, 688 00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:46.519 does that mean I can do this with other investors? 689 00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:48.800 Is that what that means? 690 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:54.159 Yeah? So if you you can bring in on other investors. 691 00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:55.159 But you have to be able. 692 00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:59.280 To show your part your your only basically what you 693 00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:03.239 are required because you you you are you, you are investing. 694 00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:05.639 But also you need a paperwork, right, you need to 695 00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:08.079 get it a green car. You need to get this 696 00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:11.199 partway to citizenship. So you have to be able to 697 00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:18.320 distinguish your your personal investment that complies with immigration laws. Okay, 698 00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:20.920 even if you are bringing in other partners. 699 00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:24.440 So I have to bring in eight hundred. I like 700 00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:27.000 if I have a concert that bringing in one point two, 701 00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:30.440 I have to bring in eight hundred myself with two 702 00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:34.519 of us. Two Nigerians can apply and bringing founded four hundred. 703 00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:38.119 And this it is a couple. 704 00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:42.440 So a couple can do fundred, Okay, Okay, gotcha. Those 705 00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:46.639 are at that point. Okay, So when when I get it, 706 00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:50.400 then I then get the paperwork and okay, fantastic, got that. 707 00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:53.000 I have a DM for you get I think it's 708 00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:57.559 probably the students someone's asking about Harvard. He just wants 709 00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:01.599 to get some clarification, right, they have issues visa based 710 00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:08.360 immigration and visa right what is has been resolved. 711 00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:08.639 In the court system. 712 00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:14.239 I think, uh, the courts have said no, you cannot 713 00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:19.119 you cannot. So remember when when we begin, I told 714 00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:25.559 you that ICE has works with the universities if them 715 00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:28.079 sat under the service. 716 00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:31.480 Program, Like you can only bring. 717 00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:33.960 In international students if the government allows you to and 718 00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:40.440 the system to track. So so the Harvard situation was like, Okay, 719 00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:44.440 the Travel Administration was wanted to say Harvard will no 720 00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:47.760 longer get international students. 721 00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:48.280 Because they can they don't. 722 00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:50.119 They're not going to have a twenty to give out 723 00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:54.639 the forms the process, right, So that's. 724 00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:55.159 What's the harbor. 725 00:44:55.519 --> 00:45:00.280 But I believe that has been a cour federal cod 726 00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:05.159 has blocked the government from doing that because you have 727 00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:07.800 to be able to show why you sing why theyre 728 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:09.000 singling out. 729 00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:16.960 One university, like that's you know, there's so many laws. Okay, yeah, 730 00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:18.280 so I think it's. 731 00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:21.800 It's a they say have international students, But I think 732 00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:25.280 they also still have other issues between the government and 733 00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:30.960 the Harvard that are not necessarily linked to student visa. 734 00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:33.559 They are. I don't know. 735 00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:36.400 I don't follow much, but I know the international student 736 00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:38.079 issue has been resolved. 737 00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:39.800 The process resolved. 738 00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:42.440 Gotcha, someone is sending me that kind of people don't 739 00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:46.159 talk Because the US government is now tracking social media 740 00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:49.880 and want to apply for visa. Interesting, very interesting. 741 00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:52.599 Yeah, so that's a good point. So right now, you know, 742 00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:56.400 car have you pro trumped? Remember I told you trumps. 743 00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:02.599 Remember I'm conservating if I put it away anyone. 744 00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:08.079 That conservative, but it doesn't do Maybe it's good for you, 745 00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:12.880 but your country, your African brothers. 746 00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:16.400 Why on the topic, let me let me give you 747 00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:19.280 this scenario, case study of Nigeria and what I saw 748 00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:21.880 in the US and immigration. I have a friend in Nigeria, 749 00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:26.360 SAP certified s a p so IT guide. His wife 750 00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:28.960 was a nurse. His wife's an American citizen. She lives 751 00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:31.639 in the state. He lives in Nigeria. He applied to 752 00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:34.880 go to the United States to join her. When he applied, 753 00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.039 he has been good to the US and back. They 754 00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:41.119 denied his visa because they said, you have a spouse abroad, 755 00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:44.360 you have a house abroad. You can no longer apply 756 00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:48.159 for a tourist visa. You have to apply for an 757 00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:53.639 immigration that to immigrate, but to apply for that visas 758 00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:58.159 the backlog is three years. So for three years he 759 00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:00.320 was going back and forth to the visa. He not 760 00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:02.960 just giving a story. He couldn't go again for the 761 00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:07.039 next three years. Now you know, what happened. His other 762 00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:12.880 friend went to Mexico and crossed the border. No problems. 763 00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:19.440 Okay, okay, extreme festival. Is his wife or you a citizen? Yes? 764 00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:21.920 Three years? 765 00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:25.960 Yes, it took three years in Nigeria to get the 766 00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:29.079 to get the appointments in Nigeria three years backlog, so 767 00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:35.280 three years to get the appointment of travel and of 768 00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:37.360 course you know there is a wife. Because the presence 769 00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.760 was crowded in the States, they had the surge of 770 00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:43.760 folks across the border. They had no time to deal 771 00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:48.360 with the legal immigrants. So the legal immigrants in Nigeria 772 00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:50.599 that are applied to following the law. 773 00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:57.559 Those are talking points because only a few people, I 774 00:47:57.559 --> 00:47:58.719 guess we get. 775 00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:02.280 I really wanted to speak about that particularly. But let 776 00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:06.119 me address that that your friend's situation. First of all, 777 00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:10.440 if you're his wife, who have applied early, like as 778 00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:13.960 early as possible for his I want a pet because 779 00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:15.880 you have to apply marriage petition. 780 00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:18.039 Here first in America. 781 00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:21.360 Yeah, here in the US. Sorry, and then once it's 782 00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:22.440 approved with. 783 00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:26.000 The US Immigration U s c I s U S 784 00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:30.559 Citizenship and Immigration Services, then that's when it goes is 785 00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:32.920 sent to the National Visa Center, and then you have 786 00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:35.800 to send all the paperwork and the National Visa Center 787 00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:42.639 since they communicate with the embassy and the embassy. 788 00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:44.480 Schedules in Italy. So I do a lot of. 789 00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:51.239 Marriage petitions in Africa, having I've done Nigeria. The really 790 00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:55.280 the hardest, the longest is to get the petition to 791 00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:59.039 be approved here in the US and force and for 792 00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:04.719 really to give credit to the Trump administration and all 793 00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:10.639 the administration a marriage petition, especially when the spouse is separate. 794 00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:15.360 From the from the you know, they are separate, they 795 00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:18.400 are like long distances. They try to make it as 796 00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:22.639 fast as possible. I think. 797 00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:32.000 Of all embassies, you know, of course after COVID, I 798 00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:33.360 think I recourse. 799 00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:33.920 I have a case. 800 00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:36.880 Now I recourse, I have to go check. Actually that's 801 00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:38.800 the one that has taken a while. But the other 802 00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:43.079 ones they come along, there goes. They don't take long 803 00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:45.960 to schedule them for an interview. So maybe they just 804 00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:48.760 took their time to file and you know, sometimes the 805 00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:50.880 paperwork you have to because it's. 806 00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:53.400 A lot of It was a specific issue. It was 807 00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:56.519 because he was told that it's because they were overloaded 808 00:49:56.639 --> 00:50:01.480 in America processing. They were overloaded, that's what he was told. 809 00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:03.480 Because it took three years, and. 810 00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:06.239 I've also gone to have gone to see That's one 811 00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:09.960 of the things I tell it before. If your case 812 00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:10.840 has been penning for. 813 00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:14.280 A long time, you can go to your US Congress 814 00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:17.880 and it will help you speed it up because if it's. 815 00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:19.639 It should not take more than a year for the 816 00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:20.519 marriage petition. 817 00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:24.360 Okay, you remember also there was also the court case 818 00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:27.280 that they sued, so all that affected him. The court 819 00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:30.679 case they do the department to court. But that's just 820 00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:33.719 put it out there that the perception is that if 821 00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:36.519 you break the law, you get these things faster. But 822 00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:38.960 if you feel the process, it gets. 823 00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:41.480 Talk about that now it's not really. 824 00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:43.679 Okay, But let's let's let let me ask because I 825 00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:46.800 think that's why person. Lots of dames are not speaking, 826 00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:48.760 but I don't think you should. You should speak. Guys 827 00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:52.079 don't get to see. So someone else is asking this 828 00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:54.280 is a question. Let me see if I can still 829 00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:58.360 find someone's asking a question. So just to be clear, 830 00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:01.199 if I you as going to send an email to 831 00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:06.599 Nigerians that said you cannot travel abroad if you are pregnant, 832 00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:10.920 is this legal? Can they stop me from have a visa? 833 00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:13.639 And I want to go have a baby abroad. They 834 00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:16.480 sent an email that I didn't sent an email that 835 00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:19.800 you cannot Yeah, she said that the US got center. 836 00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:22.679 It was published in the papers that you cannot travel 837 00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:25.519 if you are pregnant. Is this legal or are they 838 00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:28.280 just doing it in Nigeria? Kindly assist. 839 00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:31.679 I don't know. I don't know if they said an email, 840 00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:37.280 but they did put an announcement saying that those people. 841 00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:41.159 Who are coming to the United States have to give 842 00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:42.440 birth and go back. 843 00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:44.079 They will be. 844 00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:54.760 They will face of some consequences. For example, if, for example, 845 00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:58.960 if someone has a visa and they are visibly pregnant, 846 00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:03.280 they come at the border, they may just be saying, no, 847 00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:04.599 we are not allowing. 848 00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:06.800 You to come in, and there's no explanation. 849 00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:09.239 Okay, but what's what's the what's the offense? 850 00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:14.119 I mean, because people are trying to come in help 851 00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:17.840 give birth to the in the US and they don't 852 00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:22.599 pay the bills. So uh here in the US, even 853 00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:26.320 if there's no uh like universal health care. 854 00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:31.000 However, like giving. 855 00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:34.719 Birth is considered as an emergency in all emergency services, 856 00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:38.599 they are provided to anyone because they're not gonna They're 857 00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:42.079 not gonna send away a woman in labor because they 858 00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:44.800 don't have insurance. So people come to the US and 859 00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:49.079 they give birth and the hospitals send them a bill 860 00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:52.639 later and the bill doesn't they don't have any address. 861 00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:55.320 So that is in the record now goes in the 862 00:52:55.400 --> 00:53:00.840 record of immigration, so that when next time you that 863 00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:04.920 same person tries to to enter the US. 864 00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:06.719 They were sure they were shore. 865 00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:09.480 How to look, the last time we came here, you 866 00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:15.280 had it, you were provided. The medical services you owe 867 00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:18.800 the hospital is amount of money because if the hospital 868 00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:22.679 doesn't get paid, so the government has to pay them, 869 00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:24.440 like to. 870 00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:24.960 Re embarss them. 871 00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:27.960 Understood. So it's really because of that, because of the 872 00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:30.320 folks that had come earlier and didn't pay. That's why 873 00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:31.480 they're going this right. 874 00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:32.599 Yeah. 875 00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:34.199 It also now this is the whole thing that they 876 00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:36.880 don't want anybody to become a citizen because anybody who's 877 00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:39.079 born here, who's born on the soil. 878 00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:40.800 Of the US season and now they want to be 879 00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:43.119 meet you know. 880 00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:48.920 Okay, I have another question here and why really we're 881 00:53:48.920 --> 00:53:51.719 scared of the US embassas for not asking questions. Okay, 882 00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:55.239 but question here on DM someone says, I was born 883 00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:59.239 in the US. I don't have a passport, all I 884 00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:05.679 have is a certificate. What can so? Can I just 885 00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:09.360 go to the US embassy and give them the birth certificate? 886 00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:13.440 How do I prove the name? How can you product 887 00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:16.159 that is him? That's a birth certificate. 888 00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:20.840 Certificate from So when you are so anybody born in 889 00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:26.280 the US, you first of all, there's a at the 890 00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:29.079 hospital where you are born, there's somebody who's in charge 891 00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:35.039 of the viol statistics. They come and collect the information 892 00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:38.679 and your fingerprints and all that stuff, and they send 893 00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:43.679 that to the viral records of this county or city 894 00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:44.960 where you're born. 895 00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:46.760 So I mean, if that's. 896 00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:50.039 Them, if he has a person, they have their certificate 897 00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:55.320 issued by the the authority here in the city or 898 00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:56.400 county where. 899 00:54:56.159 --> 00:55:03.599 They were born. They have to they can apply so passport. 900 00:55:03.639 --> 00:55:08.639 However, though sometimes he's asking there. 901 00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:13.039 Are there are some more I don't know. You have 902 00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:14.559 to look. It depends on when they were born. 903 00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:17.119 Okay, let me see, let me ask him what Okay, 904 00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:20.960 he's asking. So with that birth certificate, if I go 905 00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:27.519 to the embassy, can they can they evacuate me from Nigeria? 906 00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:29.519 Evacuate you from Nigeria. 907 00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:34.079 That's that's why he's asking. He wants to live he 908 00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:36.960 wants to leave Nigeria. He has a birth certification. So 909 00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:40.000 he's asking is that enough to say I want to 910 00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:41.960 leave go back to America. I don't have money. 911 00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:45.599 I need a passport to travel abroad. Everybody needs a passport. 912 00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:49.320 Okay, let me ask you. 913 00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:51.480 They need the US passport. 914 00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:56.480 You cannot just bring your Nigerian passport in your certificate. 915 00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:58.480 You need you need to apply for you. 916 00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.239 I've asked him what year he was born? If you know, 917 00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:05.760 just reply what year you were born? Second, let me I. 918 00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:08.840 Have to check it to check there are some Yeah, 919 00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:11.480 that's a case by case. I'm not going to answer 920 00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:17.199 them here. You can contact me. There's some some physical 921 00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:23.239 this is a requirement, but it may depend on when 922 00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:23.840 they were born. 923 00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:26.159 Not a problem, all right. So this is our question. 924 00:56:26.199 --> 00:56:28.679 So and this is also my question. It's a different 925 00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:31.840 way they're asking it. Why are people getting deported from 926 00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:35.519 the United States. I know it looks very, very like Hollywood, 927 00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:38.920 But what's the reason why song can get deported from 928 00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:39.719 the States. 929 00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:44.920 Okay, that's a good question, all right. 930 00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:47.840 So, so there are so many. 931 00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:54.519 People who are here who already have a deportation of 932 00:56:55.320 --> 00:56:57.719 order of deportation. Okay. 933 00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:02.679 So if you if you heard the immigrations are like 934 00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:08.800 the guy, the crazy guy, he said, there's one twenty 935 00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:15.599 three million people with final orders of deportation or removal. 936 00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:20.519 We call them remove another vice deportation. One twenty three 937 00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:25.320 million people just because. Okay, So this is the thing. 938 00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:34.639 When immigration proceedings, it's a civil There are civil proceedings. 939 00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:38.119 It's not like a criminal criminal proceedings. 940 00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:43.360 Right, So it means if someone is so you were 941 00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:46.159 talking about people who come at a. 942 00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:50.800 Mexico border and getting in the US and they go. 943 00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:53.880 To court, they are not in detention. They are not detained. 944 00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:57.119 They are not They cannot detain people anyway, by the way, 945 00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:03.559 they cannot detain by law. They cannot detain someone longer 946 00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:07.119 than a period of time without any reason. They have 947 00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:11.639 to release them out. They can give them, you know. 948 00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:12.559 Their. 949 00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:17.039 Enco monitors, but you know most of them they were 950 00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:21.679 not given incommnitors. They were not giving anything. So but 951 00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:24.800 they go to court. Once you go to court, most 952 00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:28.639 of them, really those people I would say right now, 953 00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:33.280 almost handy percent they get delied. And the reason why 954 00:58:33.599 --> 00:58:35.079 I would tell you in this way is going to 955 00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:36.119 make you happy, Calu. 956 00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:40.079 Because you're not Biding fans. 957 00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:45.400 So during the Biding administration, right it looked as if 958 00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:46.119 they were. 959 00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:48.440 Allowing people in. They can't keep correct. 960 00:58:49.320 --> 00:59:00.519 However, in May three, the Buiding administration say in place 961 00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:08.960 a rule that stated that if someone like circumvents the 962 00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:12.119 pathways like, they don't come. So basically they wanted you 963 00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:17.519 to come go at the border, say hey, pits Custom 964 00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:23.639 Borders Protection, I am clothing and I need asylum, and 965 00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:24.800 then they will give you a. 966 00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:27.840 It's enough. 967 00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:31.840 They were even giving them phones with the simple up 968 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:35.719 and then they tell you, okay, now he's a number. 969 00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:40.679 Come back on a Tuesday or whatever so that you 970 00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:45.800 are processed in. So if most people didn't do that, 971 00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:48.960 most people instead they will just go through the fence. 972 00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:52.239 They would just jumple the first. They will go through 973 00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:52.639 you know. 974 00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:57.800 Illegal ways. Those people who did that after May twenty 975 00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:04.920 twenty three, who entered illegally, they were automatically banned from asylum, 976 01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:12.079 except except those with children like you know who accompanied 977 01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:15.880 by miners, or those who in harms weight like who were. 978 01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:18.679 Like bleeding, or they were fleeing. 979 01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:22.159 Like basically the who if you were in a bad condition. 980 01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:27.079 But most people, most people, of course, they don't already 981 01:00:27.119 --> 01:00:29.760 having because most people who came at the border there 982 01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:34.280 were mainly men, like they were literally male, and they 983 01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:38.159 didn't have any children or by themselves. So that means 984 01:00:38.159 --> 01:00:41.440 even if they go to court today that they are 985 01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:46.440 they are blocked by that rule. So they don't win, 986 01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:51.119 so hundred percent they are denied asylum. But they go 987 01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:54.239 through their PILL process. They you know, have due process. 988 01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:57.800 You go through their pill process. It's going to take years. 989 01:00:58.039 --> 01:01:03.440 So finally after they find allies the appealing process, they 990 01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:09.000 have been have been given the full due process rights, 991 01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:13.880 there will be a final order of removal. But they 992 01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:17.920 are not detained. They are they are they're here, they 993 01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:21.519 are like in the they're they're doing there, they're living 994 01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:27.800 their life. So those there's a million three people in 995 01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:33.360 that situation. So that's that's what the government is supposed 996 01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:37.360 to be looking for, because don't once you have a 997 01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:42.119 final order of removal, there's a warrant for your arrest automatically. 998 01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:43.880 Okay, there's ICE. 999 01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:47.400 They go to court to get a warrant to arrest you, 1000 01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:50.920 so they can arrest you any time. So that's what 1001 01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:54.920 the people, that's what ICE agency agents of they are 1002 01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:58.119 supposed to arrest but we have seen where they are 1003 01:01:58.199 --> 01:02:01.599 arresting even as citizens because they are going by you know, 1004 01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:04.159 oh yeah, if you're brown, must be an immigrant. 1005 01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:05.559 And then they are various people. 1006 01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:09.239 You have seen where they arrested that die from Savador, 1007 01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:10.239 who did. 1008 01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:11.679 Not have a final order of removal. 1009 01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:15.360 He had a holding of removal for you know, he 1010 01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:18.760 was not supposed to be removed to Salvador, but they 1011 01:02:18.840 --> 01:02:20.679 moved they reported him there. 1012 01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:22.920 That was a huge case when others to the U. 1013 01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:25.559 S Supreme Court, the US Supreme Court told. 1014 01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:29.280 The government, you have to bring him back. Finally they 1015 01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:32.360 brought him back. He's back here in the US and 1016 01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:34.840 they are trying to now put him again. 1017 01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:37.639 In the proceedings. So I don't know if he's out. 1018 01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:39.400 I think he's out on board now. 1019 01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:44.000 I did the charging for a different case for human trafficking. 1020 01:02:44.119 --> 01:02:45.880 That's where he's at right now they. 1021 01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:47.079 Are trying to do. But I don't know if he's 1022 01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:49.119 gonna work because that's a criminal case. He did not 1023 01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:50.599 have a criminal case. He didn't. 1024 01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:56.480 He had some they you know, some domestic ballets, but 1025 01:02:56.719 --> 01:02:57.599 they were dismissed. 1026 01:02:57.639 --> 01:03:02.199 So I don't know. But the main thing is they 1027 01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:07.880 deported King when they were not supposed to deport him. 1028 01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:11.119 They deported him to a country that he fled, so 1029 01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:12.920 they had to bring him back in the US. 1030 01:03:13.519 --> 01:03:17.719 Okay, So it's that final order of deportation that those 1031 01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:20.159 those folks that ICE is going around getting loose, the 1032 01:03:20.199 --> 01:03:24.239 guys that have that final order to be removed round 1033 01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:27.159 without Okay, all right, Yeah, they have. 1034 01:03:27.159 --> 01:03:31.000 A final reportation. They warrant for the arrest. They can 1035 01:03:31.079 --> 01:03:34.400 arrest them anywhere anywhere there if they can identify them. 1036 01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:39.320 But in the process they do arrest people who are 1037 01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:43.039 not supposed to be arrested and other people, other people. 1038 01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:46.159 So when you have a green card, that's why I 1039 01:03:46.159 --> 01:03:49.559 always tell people as soon as you qualify to apply 1040 01:03:49.599 --> 01:03:51.199 for your citizenship, we should. 1041 01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:53.320 Go ahead and apply for it to have to have 1042 01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:55.400 full protection as a US citizen. 1043 01:03:56.480 --> 01:03:59.599 This is because if you have a criminal record, you 1044 01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:03.840 can was your green crime and you can really bored. Yes, 1045 01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:07.519 So if you have and if you happen to commit 1046 01:04:07.599 --> 01:04:14.360 a felony or some crimes against more atrapitude like you know, 1047 01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:20.559 domestic and you know you know how African people domestic vialleance. Uh, 1048 01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:24.360 it is very very one of the main so driving 1049 01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:27.000 another influence in domestic valence, So those are the main 1050 01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:30.039 and a sexual assault, those are the main. 1051 01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:36.840 Crimes. Most the people I see anyway I have charges, 1052 01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:37.280 they have. 1053 01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:41.159 So if so, they will give you an example I had. 1054 01:04:42.719 --> 01:04:49.239 I had a client who was deported because he was 1055 01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:54.559 he was charged of kidnapping. You know what that kidnapping 1056 01:04:54.880 --> 01:05:03.599 was his girlfriend. They had a fight, right and then 1057 01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:05.599 they were I don't know where they were, and then 1058 01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:07.800 he said, you know the candy parties go. He said, 1059 01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:11.000 I do want to go in the car. So the 1060 01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:13.159 fact that she put he put him in the car 1061 01:05:13.480 --> 01:05:19.000 without his permission, that's kidnapping. Wow, and that carries after 1062 01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:21.440 twenty years in prison. Of course you know you don't 1063 01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:24.920 get the full but that's a criminary. That's a perony. 1064 01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:28.519 If you have a green card, that happens to you. 1065 01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:31.920 With the add sexual assault dui. 1066 01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:34.719 If you have a US driving an influence like. 1067 01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:39.159 Two of those, you are you are done. So you 1068 01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:41.159 can't be reported. Even if you were a green card 1069 01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:43.239 and you being here for ten. 1070 01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:45.440 Years or twenty years, you can be deported. 1071 01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:49.920 So those people also are being deported. If you have asylum, 1072 01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:57.679 if you are a refugee and you happen to be 1073 01:05:58.079 --> 01:06:05.679 linked to any any rebel groups or any organizations that 1074 01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:10.000 the US does not like hamas you could be face. 1075 01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:14.960 Deportation, localm and the rest. Yes, very interesting. I know. 1076 01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:16.760 I'm going to come back to your clothing on this 1077 01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:19.239 because there was a police guy in Canada that was 1078 01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:23.360 denied immigration because it was a member of the Nigerian police. 1079 01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:25.880 That was it. But let me get let's get doctor 1080 01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:28.840 doctor has been waiting a bit. Let's get doctor to speaking. 1081 01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:32.239 I'll come back to you on those specific cases. Doctor 1082 01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:33.440 doctor Obie. How are you doing. 1083 01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:39.599 Yeah, I'm doing okay. I'm just listening to my sister. 1084 01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:41.639 Cloud didn't thank you very much for the work you 1085 01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:42.119 are doing. 1086 01:06:44.679 --> 01:06:48.159 The whole system is I know a lot of people 1087 01:06:48.159 --> 01:06:49.159 who are on the panic. 1088 01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:51.719 There are people who. 1089 01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:57.400 Have got married and they have like upcoming appointment where 1090 01:06:57.440 --> 01:07:03.960 they were supposed to go to the views. And the 1091 01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:05.400 guy spoke to me yesterday. 1092 01:07:06.599 --> 01:07:07.239 He's married. 1093 01:07:07.320 --> 01:07:10.440 He is from n Ja. He's married to a black American. 1094 01:07:10.599 --> 01:07:12.920 They live together like it's real. Marriage is not one 1095 01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:21.079 of those. But he is worried that, you know, going 1096 01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:23.679 for his interview because he's been high hearing rumors that 1097 01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:26.440 people go to interview and they get arrested and end 1098 01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:30.119 up getting departed. I mean, so I just wanted to 1099 01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:34.480 ask Cloud him how, you know, what what kind of 1100 01:07:34.519 --> 01:07:37.400 situation is that and what can he do? Because I 1101 01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:39.280 was thinking, does he need to go with a lawyer, 1102 01:07:39.880 --> 01:07:41.760 you know, because he's really, really very anxious. 1103 01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:44.599 So I don't know if he can help my sister, 1104 01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:52.320 Thank you doctor or be So which city is here 1105 01:07:54.039 --> 01:07:58.519 he's impressive? I don't know what city is impressively. So 1106 01:07:58.639 --> 01:08:02.880 that's where So right now. 1107 01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:08.320 In general, those who get arrested during the interviews is 1108 01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:13.960 because the outstanding warrant, like I was saying, and that's why. Yeah, 1109 01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:17.439 some people may have an outstanding warrant, like they say, 1110 01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:20.399 you've been here for a long time and maybe and 1111 01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:23.279 you may not even know if there's a pending case 1112 01:08:23.439 --> 01:08:26.640 on your army. It happened to one of my clients 1113 01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:31.079 in the first Trump administration. We went to the marriage 1114 01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:34.239 interview and they were like, oh, we're gonna arrest your clients. 1115 01:08:34.239 --> 01:08:36.840 I'm like why, And they showed me this warrant. 1116 01:08:37.159 --> 01:08:40.680 So anyway, we were able to fight it. But he 1117 01:08:40.960 --> 01:08:46.760 was dead arrested in front of me. So that's the way. 1118 01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:48.000 So if you're. 1119 01:08:50.039 --> 01:08:52.800 If he's a manage petition, like there's no army. I've 1120 01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:54.720 been going to USAYS every week. 1121 01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:55.640 Now I go the week. 1122 01:08:55.720 --> 01:09:01.399 Now there's no there's no there's no only there to 1123 01:09:01.520 --> 01:09:05.399 arrest people about. Those are the situations where it could 1124 01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:09.039 happen because they have this this office called FDNS it's 1125 01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:15.199 fraud detection, I don't know services whatever that it's in 1126 01:09:15.239 --> 01:09:18.840 the back. And if they have if someone comes in 1127 01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:21.760 for an interview and there is maybe a warrant for 1128 01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:24.239 the arrest, maybe in the past. 1129 01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:27.439 They didn't go to court. They didn't and then there 1130 01:09:27.479 --> 01:09:29.000 were order. Like I said, I was. 1131 01:09:28.920 --> 01:09:32.520 Saying, you could be here, you came here, you miss 1132 01:09:32.640 --> 01:09:36.920 court and you didn't care. Well, when that happens, there 1133 01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:39.319 isn't warrant for your arrest. They're not gonna come such 1134 01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:42.119 for you. But wherever they find you, they will go 1135 01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:45.600 ahead and arrested because they haven't warrant. So those are 1136 01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:50.560 the situations that nobody will happen. Like even in the 1137 01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:55.319 case I am in the in Texas, some of my 1138 01:09:56.079 --> 01:09:58.479 you know, we share information with my colleagues at the 1139 01:09:58.560 --> 01:10:04.479 attorneys in situations that were arrested. When where where I'm 1140 01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:08.239 talking and I'm standing warrant for the person's arrest. 1141 01:10:09.119 --> 01:10:10.720 Maybe it was older. 1142 01:10:11.079 --> 01:10:14.560 Some people move and they don't change address, and then 1143 01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:16.119 you know you miss court. 1144 01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:21.600 If you miss your court date, you are ordered removed. 1145 01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:24.439 In Ausssia, you can redress the issue and get the 1146 01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:28.039 person out, but it could happen. But if it's just like, okay, 1147 01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:32.319 you you know you've never been overstayed your visa or 1148 01:10:32.319 --> 01:10:34.960 even if you're over stage, you were never in proceedings, 1149 01:10:35.239 --> 01:10:39.680 you're a regular my inspetition, they should be fine. But 1150 01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:41.520 it's always good to go with an attorney because the 1151 01:10:41.560 --> 01:10:43.479 NATO is going to be able to say, okay. 1152 01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:44.000 What's going on? 1153 01:10:44.720 --> 01:10:48.079 You know in in in the person I was referring to, 1154 01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:49.119 I was like, no, you're not. 1155 01:10:49.079 --> 01:10:52.600 Gonna take my plan anyway, even if they they are 1156 01:10:52.720 --> 01:10:56.439 very intimidating, but hey, you're not gonna be intimidated like. 1157 01:10:56.520 --> 01:10:58.159 No, I'm doing my job. I need you to show 1158 01:10:58.239 --> 01:11:02.199 me are you are taking my current away? So then 1159 01:11:02.199 --> 01:11:03.960 they give you a want because they know they have 1160 01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:07.279 to have you wanted to be able to to to 1161 01:11:07.439 --> 01:11:08.119 arrest someone. 1162 01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:14.760 Yeah yeah, so doctor what I heard, I mean, if 1163 01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:19.119 you have if you have no case, he should be fine. 1164 01:11:19.239 --> 01:11:21.680 But take a lawyer. Just at that, Mama, you know, 1165 01:11:23.479 --> 01:11:24.640 you know, yeah. 1166 01:11:25.439 --> 01:11:28.920 How many years they have been here the case? You 1167 01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:29.359 don't know. 1168 01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:33.680 I mean, he's probably been here for about four years 1169 01:11:33.680 --> 01:11:34.359 if I remember. 1170 01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:39.640 It's just the way people you know, spleasure should have fine. 1171 01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:43.880 If he has no prior issues, no prior cases with 1172 01:11:44.399 --> 01:11:49.159 immigration that's pending or was not resolved or he was 1173 01:11:49.199 --> 01:11:55.279 not aware of and then ended up being deportation order, 1174 01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:57.319 then he should be fine. 1175 01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:00.079 Mm hmm, okay, thank you. 1176 01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:03.960 I mean, I mean this this what this darker thing right, darker? 1177 01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:08.680 It's only the folks that cross the border. Is any 1178 01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:14.479 African darker this deferred action folks? Does it have any 1179 01:12:14.520 --> 01:12:15.479 Africans and darker? 1180 01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:19.479 According to you know, yeah, it was the Africans and 1181 01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:25.640 the darker, but proportionately of course, is sure because you 1182 01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:30.600 have to understand in the US African immigrants. 1183 01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:38.479 Are less than one percent, so sod all the it's 1184 01:12:38.680 --> 01:12:42.600 during the Obama years, so people who were present. 1185 01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:44.880 In the United States before. 1186 01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:48.279 My question for Africa, if Obama come back, you're going 1187 01:12:48.319 --> 01:12:48.920 to give him a. 1188 01:12:48.960 --> 01:12:55.000 Chance, Obama chance to do what what did he do 1189 01:12:55.039 --> 01:12:55.520 for Africa? 1190 01:12:56.920 --> 01:12:58.880 Now he can't come back because he's not going to 1191 01:12:58.960 --> 01:12:59.479 let him hang. 1192 01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:03.560 See we could hang Obama here, but Obama's gonna snitch 1193 01:13:03.720 --> 01:13:06.239 on the whole democracy in America. 1194 01:13:07.359 --> 01:13:08.880 If and when he is. 1195 01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:13.960 Going to come back to Kenya, A ka, are you 1196 01:13:14.199 --> 01:13:14.479 going to. 1197 01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:15.520 Let him bron. 1198 01:13:19.079 --> 01:13:21.840 I'm just wondering what he did for Africa in the 1199 01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:22.439 first place. 1200 01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:29.039 Let me let me answer I think, let me answer her. 1201 01:13:29.039 --> 01:13:30.319 I think I know where she's coming from. 1202 01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:32.319 I don't know if Kenya either. 1203 01:13:32.520 --> 01:13:36.399 Obama who Kenyan citizenship because Kenya is actually a country 1204 01:13:36.399 --> 01:13:40.960 that has a constitutional law. Even though his father I 1205 01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:43.359 was from Kenya, so I believe he will hold the 1206 01:13:43.479 --> 01:13:44.920 citizenship some countries have. 1207 01:13:45.279 --> 01:13:47.800 I think he would be good. I think he would 1208 01:13:47.800 --> 01:13:50.079 be good because he learned his lesson over here in 1209 01:13:50.119 --> 01:13:50.520 the nation. 1210 01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:52.920 Yeah, but you know, just moving to the country and 1211 01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:56.359 run for president. You know, but. 1212 01:13:56.199 --> 01:13:59.039 We can't well if he comes back, because he has 1213 01:13:59.119 --> 01:14:02.000 two options. Let me tell you what we're gonna do 1214 01:14:02.079 --> 01:14:05.640 with him. I'm gonna tell you again. Either Obama wanted 1215 01:14:05.720 --> 01:14:08.159 to lie and say he did not know about. 1216 01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:10.000 The Russian closure, try to take her off. 1217 01:14:10.039 --> 01:14:11.479 That's gonna be Yeah. 1218 01:14:12.920 --> 01:14:17.720 If he says no, I want because Obama already confessed. 1219 01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:23.359 I know about that to go, let's talk about Russian. 1220 01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:26.239 I think she's a black lady, though they. 1221 01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:28.840 Call them a freedom something. 1222 01:14:29.720 --> 01:14:32.680 I don't know, district district. I'm okay to add you back, 1223 01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:34.159 but we don't do Russian cusion. 1224 01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:39.680 No, I don't think she's interested in immigration matters. She's more. 1225 01:14:41.439 --> 01:14:44.720 There's a group of people who are just I don't know, 1226 01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:49.239 anti immigrants, and they have these because you are theorists. 1227 01:14:49.319 --> 01:14:50.680 So I don't know if you want to entertain those 1228 01:14:50.840 --> 01:14:51.279 or you just. 1229 01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:55.039 Know what's fine, because I mean, if the focus really 1230 01:14:55.119 --> 01:14:57.960 in ninety years, like, there was a poson in Ninetieria 1231 01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:00.720 and they asked a lot of young people their number 1232 01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:03.560 one goal. This was the number one financial goal, and 1233 01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:06.600 the number one goal was to leave Nigeria heartbreaking. But 1234 01:15:06.760 --> 01:15:10.000 that's what the poll said is a very very popular 1235 01:15:10.039 --> 01:15:12.880 money saving up around that pole. So lots of folks 1236 01:15:12.920 --> 01:15:16.479 really want to understand is it legal to emigrate? If 1237 01:15:16.479 --> 01:15:18.399 I want to do this, you know, how is the 1238 01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:20.039 right way to do it? And I think give us 1239 01:15:20.039 --> 01:15:22.920 a lot of pointers and a lot it's kind I'm 1240 01:15:22.920 --> 01:15:24.239 going to ask you just to go back and do 1241 01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:26.479 those points again. A lot of other dms are basically 1242 01:15:26.560 --> 01:15:28.520 saying can she go back? 1243 01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:33.920 You know, I am an immigration attorney, but I am 1244 01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:40.800 one of the people who who advocate for Africans not 1245 01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:46.039 just to travel to the US without any purpose. You 1246 01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:48.359 should see people who are being like I told you, 1247 01:15:48.920 --> 01:15:52.000 those who come across the board, across the border and 1248 01:15:52.039 --> 01:15:58.479 then you know, jump defenses AE hundred percent, almost ninety 1249 01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:04.319 nine percent. They get denied right, Yes, they get jobs, 1250 01:16:05.399 --> 01:16:07.800 but then they have to pay attorney's fees. You know, 1251 01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:11.920 they even struggling to pay attorney's fees. They most of 1252 01:16:11.960 --> 01:16:17.760 them maybe Nigerians because you guys speak English, but other 1253 01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:22.119 people from like French speaking countries or non English speaking countries. 1254 01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:23.920 It's hard to find a job. 1255 01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:29.520 Some of them are working for Amazon, but Amazon now 1256 01:16:29.680 --> 01:16:31.840 is going you know, AI is taking all the job. 1257 01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:36.159 Amazon will high Amazon will hire you, give you benefits, healthcare, 1258 01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:41.000 give you pension and everything. That's the one place where 1259 01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:44.439 I see Amazon has one point two million employees. 1260 01:16:45.399 --> 01:16:47.720 I don't know Amazon now, let me tell you what's 1261 01:16:47.720 --> 01:16:50.279 happening because I don't speak to my clients, so we 1262 01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:51.239 don't have a job. 1263 01:16:51.279 --> 01:16:53.640 So they get two days a week or three days 1264 01:16:53.640 --> 01:16:53.960 a week. 1265 01:16:54.079 --> 01:16:56.960 That means you are part time and some of them 1266 01:16:57.000 --> 01:16:58.079 they are contractors. 1267 01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:05.119 They don't. They're not. They're not like employees of Amazon. 1268 01:17:05.439 --> 01:17:10.800 They contract Amazon contract with another company to give them jobs, 1269 01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:15.399 which I mean Amazon is not it's not obliged to 1270 01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:20.920 give them those benefits, right, So, which, really they are struggling, 1271 01:17:22.079 --> 01:17:23.920 and they. 1272 01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:26.880 May spend audios years year and then. 1273 01:17:27.079 --> 01:17:30.199 Go back home. I hope they are, you know, saving 1274 01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:33.600 to go back home to build something back in their 1275 01:17:33.640 --> 01:17:36.960 respected countries. But if you want to, if you are, 1276 01:17:37.760 --> 01:17:41.279 if you really, if you have money, because they spend money, 1277 01:17:41.399 --> 01:17:43.319 some of them spend a lot of money. They spend 1278 01:17:43.359 --> 01:17:46.760 if you are saying they spend twenty thousand dollars to 1279 01:17:46.840 --> 01:17:48.800 do what they need to do to get to the US. 1280 01:17:49.479 --> 01:17:51.039 And okay, if you have twenty. 1281 01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:54.880 Thousand dollars in Nigeria, can't you find something to do? 1282 01:17:55.800 --> 01:17:57.920 Or if you can find in Nigeria, can you go 1283 01:17:58.039 --> 01:18:01.039 to Ghana? If you can, can you go to Guanda? 1284 01:18:01.159 --> 01:18:05.520 To Kenya? Can you go to Gurudi? You know? Like two. 1285 01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:11.000 I think it's more of a sometimes the mindset, because yes, 1286 01:18:11.479 --> 01:18:16.079 the grass is green in the west, it's got there, 1287 01:18:16.239 --> 01:18:20.399 but the coasts and the struggle if if you don't have, 1288 01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:22.600 like you know that their pathways to come and we 1289 01:18:22.640 --> 01:18:23.960 talked about student visas. 1290 01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:25.680 We talked about all. 1291 01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:33.319 Those like who who immigrate because of. 1292 01:18:31.479 --> 01:18:33.159 Their skills of family. 1293 01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:38.159 But if you just adventure to cross so many countries 1294 01:18:38.159 --> 01:18:41.239 to arrive in the US, it's a it's a really 1295 01:18:41.319 --> 01:18:44.439 high risk and people need to know those risks before 1296 01:18:44.479 --> 01:18:45.520 they make a decision. 1297 01:18:46.800 --> 01:18:49.359 I mean the key I know Nijin that went to 1298 01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:52.880 Nigeria and in Cuba, got on a boat in Cuba, 1299 01:18:53.199 --> 01:18:55.439 was trying to get to Florida. The boat cap size. 1300 01:18:55.840 --> 01:19:01.039 He swam, true story, swam to the each in Miami, 1301 01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:03.079 going to the beach in Miami. And that's like going 1302 01:19:03.119 --> 01:19:05.319 to the United States. So people take a lot of risks. 1303 01:19:05.640 --> 01:19:08.880 These are folks that walk through the from Brazil. They 1304 01:19:09.039 --> 01:19:13.199 walk walk through Mexico, then join the trains and then 1305 01:19:13.239 --> 01:19:15.159 get told the way to the border and join. It's 1306 01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:17.920 a lot of you know effort Nigeria across the Sahara 1307 01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:21.600 because the Sahara get to Libya and all that tried 1308 01:19:21.640 --> 01:19:24.920 to get to Europe. It's a lot. So if just 1309 01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:26.560 knowing that, I'm. 1310 01:19:26.319 --> 01:19:30.199 Do they have information or they cam no. 1311 01:19:30.279 --> 01:19:32.680 You see what happens is when you say grass is 1312 01:19:32.680 --> 01:19:34.520 greener on fortune. 1313 01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:36.920 Because they pay so much money to ded. 1314 01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:39.319 Not not really. I mean when you pay the money, 1315 01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:42.279 you are the guys that are quote unquote middle class immigrants, 1316 01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:45.720 the folks that live in Nigeria. My barber a long 1317 01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:48.600 time ago, a long long time ago, he did the 1318 01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:53.039 Sahara thing. He got to Europe. He was deported. So 1319 01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:56.840 they don't have money. If you have maybe back then 1320 01:19:56.880 --> 01:19:59.319 maybe fifty thousand ira. It's just to get your way 1321 01:19:59.359 --> 01:20:01.960 to the I know they're not of the border. You 1322 01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:04.880 get to Nitia, it's money for bribes. You just bribe 1323 01:20:04.920 --> 01:20:07.880 your way to the checkpoints. Then you get to in Libya. 1324 01:20:07.960 --> 01:20:10.600 That's when it starts to be there, because it's hiding 1325 01:20:11.520 --> 01:20:13.439 until you get to the coast. When you get to 1326 01:20:13.479 --> 01:20:16.880 the coast and you have to wait, then there's going 1327 01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:19.159 to the water and try to get the ideas. Once 1328 01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:22.279 you're in the Mediterranean, they have ships from the EU 1329 01:20:22.640 --> 01:20:26.159 that pick them up on humanitarian grass and take them 1330 01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:29.319 into the port of Italy, Malta or it's hard Enow 1331 01:20:29.359 --> 01:20:30.640 but that would used to be the point. They will 1332 01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:31.119 take them in. 1333 01:20:32.239 --> 01:20:33.239 But you're not kind of right. 1334 01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:35.680 I can tell you that even at today, even that 1335 01:20:36.239 --> 01:20:41.079 dangerous desert Sahara, Libya around you are looking at and 1336 01:20:41.119 --> 01:20:45.119 you're looking at six eight ten thousand dollars in the minimum. 1337 01:20:45.560 --> 01:20:48.279 Paid to who did this? Guys don't have six thousand dollars. 1338 01:20:48.399 --> 01:20:49.119 Well they don't have. 1339 01:20:49.119 --> 01:20:53.920 They don't I'm telling you to them. Yeah, it's a 1340 01:20:53.960 --> 01:20:56.119 lot of money. By the time you get to Libya. 1341 01:20:56.199 --> 01:20:58.000 I don't know how much it's going to cost, like 1342 01:20:58.039 --> 01:20:59.720 for them to do or they don't get to Libya 1343 01:21:00.119 --> 01:21:02.760 for you to get on those key boards. You know, 1344 01:21:02.960 --> 01:21:05.159 there's a lot of brides that you will pay, and 1345 01:21:05.239 --> 01:21:09.119 there's a lot of agents that you pay if you 1346 01:21:09.399 --> 01:21:11.399 need at least five thousand dollars. 1347 01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:12.880 I don't even think it's going to be enough. 1348 01:21:12.960 --> 01:21:14.439 I think what what I've heard is that when you 1349 01:21:14.439 --> 01:21:17.439 get to Libya, some work, some do some other stuff, 1350 01:21:17.439 --> 01:21:19.560 and then some get the money sent over to them. 1351 01:21:19.760 --> 01:21:22.199 That's today, send the money over to them and then 1352 01:21:22.199 --> 01:21:24.800 they pay and then Libat is a market where you 1353 01:21:24.840 --> 01:21:27.359 can there's this market where you can get money if 1354 01:21:27.359 --> 01:21:30.279 you want to like money transferred, you know, okay, you 1355 01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:32.000 want so that you. 1356 01:21:31.960 --> 01:21:34.039 Will probably give some money back home and some of them, 1357 01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:37.319 some of them, especially the women, get. 1358 01:21:37.279 --> 01:21:41.600 So it's it's just it's a mess and they're not 1359 01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:46.560 the thing really. But when you say the grass is greener, unfortunately, 1360 01:21:46.600 --> 01:21:51.840 the grass, the grass, the grass is greener. Oh my god, 1361 01:21:54.079 --> 01:21:56.680 the grass. You know, there's the thing about that pays 1362 01:21:56.720 --> 01:22:00.279 me so much about all this. You know, I where 1363 01:22:00.319 --> 01:22:02.560 I used to work for a nonprofit, when I used 1364 01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:05.520 to work like pro bono, and we used to go 1365 01:22:05.680 --> 01:22:10.039 and help people in You see people like come from Eritrea, 1366 01:22:10.279 --> 01:22:13.239 from Nigeria, from and they are there and you're asking 1367 01:22:13.279 --> 01:22:16.720 them their story. You can repeat their story on air, 1368 01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:20.600 and you know they're they're here. Like I told lead 1369 01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:24.079 that applied for the bests. I know, they still gave 1370 01:22:24.079 --> 01:22:27.760 her a house, They still give her giving her money 1371 01:22:27.800 --> 01:22:32.000 to upkeep. She's in school, stated Spain. For her in school. 1372 01:22:32.159 --> 01:22:35.680 She would never get that back home. Her husband came 1373 01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:38.279 to the States to try to take her away, and 1374 01:22:38.319 --> 01:22:42.760 the police on him. You cannot even come near, you know, 1375 01:22:42.880 --> 01:22:49.000 So it's no just the process, you know. 1376 01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:51.920 What kind of I can't tell you right, I. 1377 01:22:51.880 --> 01:22:54.600 Can say that the grass is not as clean as 1378 01:22:54.920 --> 01:22:56.319 people make it. 1379 01:22:56.359 --> 01:23:00.560 The reason why is this? Right? When people try those. 1380 01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:04.079 Things and get to whatever destinations in Europe or even 1381 01:23:04.079 --> 01:23:07.560 in the US, the kind of job they do, the 1382 01:23:07.720 --> 01:23:10.039 kind of howshole they do, the kind of efforts they 1383 01:23:10.079 --> 01:23:12.960 put in. If they were willing to put in that 1384 01:23:13.079 --> 01:23:15.720 kind of effort back home, they are still going to 1385 01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:18.880 be you know, get some level of success. 1386 01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:20.600 That's that's what I see. 1387 01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:23.399 I meaning is from Ruwanda, right, And that's very very 1388 01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:26.399 progressive that they just throw off turned the corner moving. 1389 01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:29.520 You know, I can give you stories want this space. 1390 01:23:29.279 --> 01:23:33.720 Because because Carlo, if somebody had five thousand dollars, which 1391 01:23:33.760 --> 01:23:36.479 I had today, it's like seven point five million. A lot 1392 01:23:36.479 --> 01:23:39.800 of people who decide they want to move whichever out 1393 01:23:40.640 --> 01:23:43.960 that's about. That's about at least what you need to 1394 01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:46.880 be looking at. But I know that if somebody has 1395 01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:49.520 five thousand dollars and they are thinking right, they are 1396 01:23:49.520 --> 01:23:52.600 in the right frame of mind in any part of Africa, 1397 01:23:52.760 --> 01:23:57.319 whether in Nigera or one that's ath Africa or whatever, and. 1398 01:23:57.199 --> 01:23:59.000 You are willing to put in the kind of the 1399 01:23:59.159 --> 01:24:00.119 kind of hot. 1400 01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:02.279 So because when they come over here or they go 1401 01:24:02.319 --> 01:24:04.199 to Europe, they do all kinds of job that they 1402 01:24:04.199 --> 01:24:05.520 will never do at home. 1403 01:24:05.560 --> 01:24:06.479 They will never do back. 1404 01:24:07.960 --> 01:24:10.720 What about the guys that take that money get a shop, 1405 01:24:11.079 --> 01:24:14.159 the shop is demolished or take that money custom seized. 1406 01:24:14.479 --> 01:24:16.880 You know, now, do you guys say you are you? 1407 01:24:16.920 --> 01:24:18.920 Are you happen or you are. 1408 01:24:18.840 --> 01:24:21.239 Sick traveling and and died? 1409 01:24:21.479 --> 01:24:26.520 Yes, guy, a guy is doing very very well. He 1410 01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:31.399 falls sick, he has just one sickness. One sickness kills 1411 01:24:31.479 --> 01:24:32.760 him like Malaya. 1412 01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:36.159 And also and also you know that those people who travel, right, 1413 01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:39.159 the people who make it, especially like in the last 1414 01:24:39.159 --> 01:24:40.680 ten years or in the last five years. 1415 01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:42.239 You know, like back in the days. 1416 01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:44.159 People go to Germany and two years they are back 1417 01:24:44.199 --> 01:24:46.119 with money and all those things don't work like that, 1418 01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:49.760 nor no more go travel. Maybe less than ten percent 1419 01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:54.720 of them. Actually, you know, I wasn't in Italy a 1420 01:24:54.760 --> 01:24:57.239 couple of years ago, and I was like in the 1421 01:24:57.319 --> 01:24:59.680 hoods and you know, I movie. I was in Italy, 1422 01:24:59.720 --> 01:25:02.720 I was friends, I was in Amsterdam, and I saw 1423 01:25:02.760 --> 01:25:05.119 a lot of our people who are never ever going 1424 01:25:05.159 --> 01:25:07.439 to be able to come back or except that they 1425 01:25:07.479 --> 01:25:10.439 are deported. So the thing is is right, this sourcide 1426 01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:14.159 story of people travel and they make it right now, 1427 01:25:14.359 --> 01:25:16.760 I feel that it's less than ten percent that actually 1428 01:25:16.800 --> 01:25:21.720 make it. When those ten percent come back home, everybody thinks, oh, 1429 01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:24.199 I'm I might go and people sell their shop, people 1430 01:25:24.279 --> 01:25:27.880 close their shop, and like I know, somebody who lives 1431 01:25:27.560 --> 01:25:29.640 in a tribd room apartments. 1432 01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:31.920 In Legos, has has a car, has. 1433 01:25:31.720 --> 01:25:34.600 A shop, taken care of his you know, of himself 1434 01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:37.960 and his siblings, you know, just doing pretty okay, right, 1435 01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:40.720 But he has to sell those things to do this 1436 01:25:40.880 --> 01:25:43.920 dangerous travel. And he gets there and he gets stopped, 1437 01:25:43.960 --> 01:25:47.319 and probably the next five ten years he's not he's 1438 01:25:47.359 --> 01:25:49.720 not going to be able to get some legal papersfors 1439 01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:51.159 that well allow him to get him So what I'm 1440 01:25:51.159 --> 01:25:52.199 saying in essence is that. 1441 01:25:54.560 --> 01:25:56.560 The glass, the glass is not always as greener. 1442 01:25:56.760 --> 01:25:56.960 You know. 1443 01:25:57.079 --> 01:25:59.039 The thing is that when you get there, like you 1444 01:25:59.119 --> 01:26:01.239 are stop, you're again the world. So you've got to 1445 01:26:01.279 --> 01:26:03.359 put every effort. You're going to do all menion, You're 1446 01:26:03.399 --> 01:26:06.439 going to do everything necessary to succeed. But back home, 1447 01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:11.319 if the person is back home and you advise them, okay, 1448 01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:13.359 For for instance, I got. 1449 01:26:13.159 --> 01:26:15.000 To know about this rabbit family. 1450 01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:16.319 You know how you and I how we used to 1451 01:26:16.359 --> 01:26:17.840 talk about farming and stuff like that. 1452 01:26:18.880 --> 01:26:20.239 So somebody somebody was. 1453 01:26:20.239 --> 01:26:24.079 Discussing about about rabbit farming and stuff like that, you know, 1454 01:26:24.600 --> 01:26:26.359 and how it's better than both three. 1455 01:26:26.640 --> 01:26:26.880 You know. 1456 01:26:27.039 --> 01:26:29.600 The person gave analysis of how it works, how much 1457 01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:32.399 it can it can invest, and how much victoric can get. 1458 01:26:32.800 --> 01:26:35.920 So I'm like, there are these people that are discovered. 1459 01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:37.880 Me, asking for money, asking for this, asking for that. 1460 01:26:37.920 --> 01:26:40.439 So let me run this idea with them and see 1461 01:26:40.439 --> 01:26:43.079 if anyone is interested. So I run the idea with 1462 01:26:43.239 --> 01:26:47.760 two people. One of them felt so insulted right that 1463 01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:52.039 I'm moving discussing about him, him and his wife, you know, 1464 01:26:52.079 --> 01:26:55.039 getting into rabbit family. He felt that he felt that 1465 01:26:55.039 --> 01:26:57.960 that's an insult. But the other person was interested. 1466 01:26:57.600 --> 01:26:58.800 In the idea. So I found it. 1467 01:26:58.840 --> 01:27:02.399 I founded it, and this is like about three months, 1468 01:27:02.560 --> 01:27:04.840 it says, a little over three months now. And it 1469 01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:06.800 looks from the report from what I'm saying, it looks 1470 01:27:06.800 --> 01:27:08.479 like it's going to be a very good venture if 1471 01:27:08.520 --> 01:27:10.439 it keeps to what is doing now. 1472 01:27:10.680 --> 01:27:12.119 So what I'm. 1473 01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:15.159 Saying is says is that people back home will come 1474 01:27:15.239 --> 01:27:18.039 up with especially people who are like almost in the 1475 01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:21.079 middle class, they will sell everything they have. 1476 01:27:21.800 --> 01:27:25.840 To migrate, and they end up in a very terrible situation. 1477 01:27:26.159 --> 01:27:29.039 If one hundred people does it, maybe especially in these days, 1478 01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:32.640 maybe like ten or fifteen will actually become that success 1479 01:27:32.640 --> 01:27:35.680 in next to three, four or five years. But those 1480 01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:37.920 ones who are suffering, you're locally hear from them. You're 1481 01:27:37.920 --> 01:27:39.439 going to see them on Twitter, You're going to see 1482 01:27:39.439 --> 01:27:40.520 them on social media. 1483 01:27:40.600 --> 01:27:42.279 I can see just going to be suffering. 1484 01:27:42.359 --> 01:27:44.640 I hear you. I can see it. Let me get 1485 01:27:44.640 --> 01:27:46.720 two guys to ask a question. I want to come 1486 01:27:46.760 --> 01:27:49.880 back to you with documentation, right that we needed not 1487 01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:51.479 to do this, but let me get I get I've 1488 01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:55.840 got a bull a bust shown in Manuel? Is that? 1489 01:27:56.119 --> 01:27:58.479 Did I get a name? Right? Manuel? 1490 01:27:59.319 --> 01:27:59.399 Right? 1491 01:28:00.039 --> 01:28:01.479 Same? Yes? You do? 1492 01:28:02.199 --> 01:28:04.000 Yeah? Hi, how are you doing? You're gonna be very fine. 1493 01:28:04.079 --> 01:28:07.600 You've got a question for clothing. We're talking immigration process 1494 01:28:07.680 --> 01:28:10.000 papers part ways. What's on your mind? 1495 01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:13.079 Yeah? All right, so I have my. 1496 01:28:14.560 --> 01:28:17.479 I just want to give your background to my Christian Actually, 1497 01:28:17.880 --> 01:28:20.239 I think what whatever what doctor be saying make a 1498 01:28:20.279 --> 01:28:21.920 lot of sense because I spent the same thing in 1499 01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:27.640 Rwanda where people have retired from a bank and then 1500 01:28:27.760 --> 01:28:30.760 it moved to Rwanda, and it was amazing that in 1501 01:28:30.920 --> 01:28:34.159 two years, in less or in less than two years, 1502 01:28:34.159 --> 01:28:36.840 you have spent twenty million ere just trying to settle 1503 01:28:36.920 --> 01:28:41.000 down there and life. Life for him is quite tough 1504 01:28:41.079 --> 01:28:42.880 and I act in Christian Why can't you just go 1505 01:28:42.920 --> 01:28:45.319 back to Nigeria And he said to go back to God, 1506 01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:48.920 saying what the whole lot is happening to people over there? 1507 01:28:49.079 --> 01:28:52.479 Now here's my Christian when it comes to investment in Nigia, 1508 01:28:52.560 --> 01:28:56.840 especially for agriculture, because when you're talking about rabbit, I play, 1509 01:28:57.399 --> 01:29:00.720 I'm doing a whole lot in agriculture in Nigeria. Sometimes 1510 01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:03.920 investors are quite greedy and it comes to invest in 1511 01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:05.119 agriculture in the Nigeria. 1512 01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:06.520 As at last. 1513 01:29:06.359 --> 01:29:12.079 Year, the the reason of investment was quite good. When 1514 01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:15.239 that September we bought oil for Touch five thousand era. 1515 01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:20.479 We're selling at seventy thousand hour during December. Now the 1516 01:29:20.520 --> 01:29:23.840 same oil is at for twe thousand sometimes somewhere in 1517 01:29:23.920 --> 01:29:26.640 some places is fifty five thousand ERA and all of 1518 01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:30.520 that then we made We did Mate one hundred and 1519 01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:34.039 fifty thousand and one undred and one oh five and 1520 01:29:34.359 --> 01:29:36.520 the same MA is currently is now forty five thousand 1521 01:29:36.800 --> 01:29:40.359 Touch five thousand era. So sometimes it's dicey, you know, 1522 01:29:40.680 --> 01:29:45.319 the ecosystem is quite dicey. Can we can we look 1523 01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:51.159 at how do we how do we communicate investment properly to. 1524 01:29:51.239 --> 01:29:52.279 People in the aspora. 1525 01:29:53.359 --> 01:29:56.079 I think you have a valid question, just wondering if 1526 01:29:56.119 --> 01:29:56.880 it's on topic. 1527 01:29:58.800 --> 01:30:02.399 Yeah, yes, because one of the reasons why many many 1528 01:30:02.920 --> 01:30:06.399 actually traveling abroad is to is to make it, don't 1529 01:30:06.520 --> 01:30:07.239 make it. 1530 01:30:06.760 --> 01:30:07.640 It's like. 1531 01:30:11.159 --> 01:30:15.319 I didn't touch him, he dropped off. I didn't touch him. Uh, 1532 01:30:16.079 --> 01:30:18.560 muster mind. Hey, guys, let's just if you can keep 1533 01:30:18.560 --> 01:30:21.039 on topic. I would love that, master mind. You're here, 1534 01:30:22.159 --> 01:30:24.439 muster mind. I mean, how you doing. 1535 01:30:25.359 --> 01:30:25.800 I'm doing. 1536 01:30:25.760 --> 01:30:29.640 It's funnier so. 1537 01:30:28.479 --> 01:30:32.680 Reading to you and your your guests here vos. 1538 01:30:34.479 --> 01:30:36.920 I do have a question about immigration, but I would 1539 01:30:36.920 --> 01:30:40.720 first like to say that, you know, for somebody to 1540 01:30:40.760 --> 01:30:44.159 take the risk to try to. 1541 01:30:44.079 --> 01:30:46.479 Make it to another country, especially. 1542 01:30:46.039 --> 01:30:49.000 Like through the desert and over seas and that kind 1543 01:30:49.000 --> 01:30:53.720 of thing, obviously they feel as though their situation is 1544 01:30:53.800 --> 01:30:57.079 dire enough to take that kind of risk. And whether 1545 01:30:57.239 --> 01:30:59.800 I think that it makes sense or not, I don't 1546 01:30:59.800 --> 01:31:03.000 know the psychology, and I don't know what they're going through. 1547 01:31:03.119 --> 01:31:04.960 I don't know their dreams and desires. 1548 01:31:06.079 --> 01:31:08.000 So I think for me it would be a little 1549 01:31:08.039 --> 01:31:11.239 distingenuous to say, hey, it's not worth the risk whatever. 1550 01:31:11.359 --> 01:31:15.279 But I think that we probably need to give a 1551 01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:16.039 little bit more. 1552 01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:18.680 Empathy to people who feel as though they need to 1553 01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:24.920 risk so much just to make it somewhere. I really 1554 01:31:24.920 --> 01:31:27.319 do have empathy and sympathy for those people who have 1555 01:31:27.399 --> 01:31:27.760 to go. 1556 01:31:27.680 --> 01:31:29.119 Through all of that. 1557 01:31:29.439 --> 01:31:34.720 So my question on immigration was, can you talk about 1558 01:31:34.920 --> 01:31:39.680 the entrepreneur visa, you know, or making it to the 1559 01:31:39.800 --> 01:31:44.920 US through entrepreneurship or through business ownership. I know it's 1560 01:31:44.960 --> 01:31:48.960 pretty the requirements are pretty hefty, but I just wanted 1561 01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:52.920 to know if you guys could talk about that part. 1562 01:31:53.079 --> 01:31:55.000 You know, wherever you're coming from. 1563 01:31:55.079 --> 01:31:58.159 It could be coming from Nigeria, but coming over through 1564 01:31:58.960 --> 01:31:59.920 business ownership. 1565 01:32:01.319 --> 01:32:05.079 When they talk around the eight hundred thousand dollars, one 1566 01:32:05.399 --> 01:32:07.800 is that the EB five fee sides that what you're 1567 01:32:07.840 --> 01:32:09.920 talking about clothing have gone through that is that what 1568 01:32:10.399 --> 01:32:11.079 you're talking about. 1569 01:32:11.800 --> 01:32:13.560 I don't know if it's eight hundred thousand, but I 1570 01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:17.199 know that there's there's one that does there There there 1571 01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:19.720 are requirements and maybe there's a hundred thousand. I don't know, 1572 01:32:20.640 --> 01:32:22.920 but I know that there is a way to get over, 1573 01:32:23.159 --> 01:32:27.279 but it is I think the money required is a 1574 01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:28.159 bit significant. 1575 01:32:28.680 --> 01:32:31.640 Clothing, there's a way to do, gotcha. But apart from 1576 01:32:31.640 --> 01:32:35.479 the EB five. Is there any other like business investments? 1577 01:32:35.720 --> 01:32:38.920 You know you talked about there is a first of. 1578 01:32:38.880 --> 01:32:42.479 All master mind. We are very empathic. 1579 01:32:43.119 --> 01:32:46.439 I'm an actual advocate for immigrants. I'm just saying here 1580 01:32:46.520 --> 01:32:51.039 because this space is for African people and to give 1581 01:32:51.439 --> 01:32:55.840 realistic expectations and maybe kind of upset well. 1582 01:32:55.760 --> 01:32:57.119 Like what were you expecting? 1583 01:32:57.159 --> 01:33:00.960 Because when you have people when I asked same questions, Okay, 1584 01:33:01.039 --> 01:33:04.000 so what was your expectation? What were you told? And 1585 01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:08.680 they will told so many things that are not realistic. 1586 01:33:08.760 --> 01:33:12.960 So that's why we mentioned, you know, maybe is any 1587 01:33:12.960 --> 01:33:14.880 other way they can. 1588 01:33:15.039 --> 01:33:17.560 Use because they do pay a lot of money to 1589 01:33:18.399 --> 01:33:21.000 cost all the way to the UN or Europe that 1590 01:33:21.159 --> 01:33:22.279 they maybe. 1591 01:33:23.119 --> 01:33:28.359 Could pay to do something else. So in terms of entrepreneurship, 1592 01:33:28.640 --> 01:33:32.199 there's this so I talked about the national interest weather 1593 01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:37.880 U talked talked about the EB five, And there's also 1594 01:33:38.159 --> 01:33:40.319 this entrepreneur. 1595 01:33:41.760 --> 01:33:47.640 Parole, which is it's a new thing. 1596 01:33:48.159 --> 01:33:50.319 It's a new it's not a visa, it's a parole 1597 01:33:50.720 --> 01:33:55.800 basically if you it's also gett to like second Valley 1598 01:33:55.880 --> 01:34:06.119 type of like they your capital type of business or entrepreneurship. Basically, 1599 01:34:06.159 --> 01:34:10.560 if you you you don't have any other visas, especially 1600 01:34:10.600 --> 01:34:14.960 for international students, and then you cannot obtain a he 1601 01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:18.520 B or any other world visa. But then you're have 1602 01:34:18.680 --> 01:34:24.800 a business interested in your interested in your endeavor, they 1603 01:34:24.880 --> 01:34:30.920 can they can esposor you for that parrole. So it's 1604 01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:34.720 it's it's not a visa, it's a status and it 1605 01:34:34.800 --> 01:34:37.439 gives you thirty months and it's. 1606 01:34:37.319 --> 01:34:38.439 Renewable one time. 1607 01:34:39.039 --> 01:34:44.560 However, it can lead to permanent residency if you can 1608 01:34:44.560 --> 01:34:49.880 improve national interest through entrepreneurship, or if you can increase 1609 01:34:50.359 --> 01:34:54.159 the amount to eight hundred thousand or one million of 1610 01:34:54.359 --> 01:34:57.479 one million fifty thousand to get ABY five. 1611 01:35:01.800 --> 01:35:06.479 It was initially improvement or put invested. 1612 01:35:06.119 --> 01:35:10.680 By Obama, then they do who was talking about Obama? 1613 01:35:11.239 --> 01:35:17.399 And then they Trump administration. The first time they stopped, 1614 01:35:17.399 --> 01:35:23.079 they blocked it. When Biden took office, he revived it. 1615 01:35:23.960 --> 01:35:26.680 Right now it has not been touched maybe because you know, 1616 01:35:27.119 --> 01:35:32.560 like I said, second baldying type of investors are having 1617 01:35:33.640 --> 01:35:38.039 their benefiting from that. So but for regular people who 1618 01:35:38.079 --> 01:35:43.079 don't have any investors or who are not into into 1619 01:35:43.439 --> 01:35:48.039 innovative type of businesses, they are not they are limited 1620 01:35:48.079 --> 01:35:50.319 to achieve that parallel. 1621 01:35:51.880 --> 01:35:54.920 Yeah, so can you apply for that in Nigeria or 1622 01:35:54.960 --> 01:35:56.479 you have to be in the state to apply for 1623 01:35:56.520 --> 01:35:57.720 that status. 1624 01:35:58.680 --> 01:36:00.279 You can apply anywhere where. 1625 01:36:00.359 --> 01:36:03.920 Really, what's the what's it called? What's it? What's it just? 1626 01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:09.560 It's called International International Parle. 1627 01:36:10.560 --> 01:36:14.479 Let me see, okay, mastermind, is that what you're talking about? 1628 01:36:16.840 --> 01:36:21.119 Yeah? That one. I think there's another. E two tree. 1629 01:36:21.760 --> 01:36:28.520 Visa is mainly for European countries and some African countries. Surprising, 1630 01:36:28.960 --> 01:36:32.720 Cameroon is one of the two invest country Nigeria. 1631 01:36:32.760 --> 01:36:37.199 It's not there, Clouding, I not there. 1632 01:36:37.760 --> 01:36:39.800 I don't know if South Africa. I don't think South Africa. 1633 01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:40.520 Ron is there? 1634 01:36:40.560 --> 01:36:44.760 When not there, I think it's Cameroon. It is Congo, 1635 01:36:44.880 --> 01:36:46.720 brother vi which now is bound. 1636 01:36:48.800 --> 01:36:50.159 How is Nigeria? 1637 01:36:50.840 --> 01:36:53.279 They actually put out African countries into visa. 1638 01:36:53.600 --> 01:36:57.640 I can put put up the list so much informed 1639 01:36:57.680 --> 01:37:04.720 that we didn't talk about that because I'm going at visa. 1640 01:37:04.880 --> 01:37:11.079 It's an ATO visa, visa visa YouTube visa is a 1641 01:37:11.279 --> 01:37:16.000 non immigrant visa that allows citizens of certain countries which 1642 01:37:16.079 --> 01:37:20.840 the US maintains a treaty of Commerce and navigation In 1643 01:37:20.960 --> 01:37:21.560 the countries. 1644 01:37:21.800 --> 01:37:28.199 There's Cameroon, Congo, broser Congo, d r C, Liberia, Morocco, Egypt, 1645 01:37:28.319 --> 01:37:33.720 if your segal to go and Tuleisia right now, Congo 1646 01:37:34.520 --> 01:37:39.079 is fully banned from any visas to enter the US. 1647 01:37:39.960 --> 01:37:43.640 Togo is banned, so these other countries. 1648 01:37:43.840 --> 01:37:44.600 Can be able to. 1649 01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:53.800 But Magia was never in this list. Never band to 1650 01:37:53.960 --> 01:37:56.680 go and Gongo over stays, I think that's what I 1651 01:37:56.800 --> 01:37:59.439 read the word over stays, that's what they wrote. 1652 01:38:00.039 --> 01:38:04.239 And they like but overstates how many? How many citizens 1653 01:38:04.279 --> 01:38:07.560 of the band? Those are very small. 1654 01:38:09.640 --> 01:38:14.520 Food travel band national from Chad, Republic of Congo, is 1655 01:38:14.560 --> 01:38:20.880 Blaza v Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Libya, Somalia, Sudan are currently 1656 01:38:21.119 --> 01:38:25.439 banned from entering the US on both immigrants and olden visas. 1657 01:38:25.840 --> 01:38:29.119 That also means the even petition for your spouse to come. 1658 01:38:29.760 --> 01:38:35.760 The only exception is for refugees and assieties. Yeah, and 1659 01:38:35.840 --> 01:38:41.840 then you have Otabo is partially banned alone too, like 1660 01:38:42.079 --> 01:38:45.079 for business as visas they can come on into but yes, 1661 01:38:45.239 --> 01:38:49.600 so it too is available for it is an old STALLUS. 1662 01:38:49.680 --> 01:38:51.239 You can invest. It doesn't really. 1663 01:38:51.239 --> 01:38:55.880 Give you a like how the ceiling or the threshold. 1664 01:38:56.520 --> 01:38:59.239 It's it's investment, so it depends on the business. 1665 01:38:59.439 --> 01:39:03.680 The language says there's no set minimum, but the investments 1666 01:39:03.720 --> 01:39:07.560 should be substantial enough to show commitments. So, I mean 1667 01:39:07.600 --> 01:39:10.159 it's a great pisa and we don't have it in Nigeria. 1668 01:39:10.199 --> 01:39:15.359 I mean someone should copy someone or missed off. Yeah, 1669 01:39:15.640 --> 01:39:16.960 if Camero has it, why don't we. 1670 01:39:17.039 --> 01:39:23.239 Have it Egypt, Morocco people, Congo press. So I've never 1671 01:39:23.640 --> 01:39:24.880 seen people using it. 1672 01:39:25.239 --> 01:39:29.119 Someone should taggert the care please. Okay, thanks master mind 1673 01:39:29.119 --> 01:39:31.279 that you. I think we've gotten it too. We've gotten 1674 01:39:31.399 --> 01:39:34.960 the intentional parole and what's at the EB five that's 1675 01:39:35.039 --> 01:39:37.119 from your question, So I think that's we did good. 1676 01:39:37.159 --> 01:39:37.520 Dare right. 1677 01:39:38.239 --> 01:39:39.760 Yeah, yeah, the question has been answered. 1678 01:39:39.760 --> 01:39:43.319 Thank you very much, appreciate you're welcome and let's get Ramsey. Ramsey, 1679 01:39:43.359 --> 01:39:46.159 how you doing Hella sha and. 1680 01:39:46.760 --> 01:39:52.560 A great thank you for giving the opportunity. So I 1681 01:39:52.720 --> 01:39:54.119 know you're speaking. 1682 01:39:53.840 --> 01:40:00.399 About the pathway of immigration processes to probably going out right, 1683 01:40:01.399 --> 01:40:03.760 but I'm looking at it. Could they also be a 1684 01:40:03.880 --> 01:40:08.119 part way for you know, maybe returning to African countries 1685 01:40:08.159 --> 01:40:11.920 to do the same things that we can also bring investment, 1686 01:40:13.119 --> 01:40:15.680 for instance, even to visit Nigeria. 1687 01:40:16.159 --> 01:40:18.239 The requirement is that you have to know someone in 1688 01:40:18.319 --> 01:40:21.680 Nigeria that rights and give. 1689 01:40:21.600 --> 01:40:26.600 A passport page of his own power or our own passport. 1690 01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:29.720 That a page to invite you to come. But let's 1691 01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:30.800 assume that I have money. 1692 01:40:30.880 --> 01:40:31.439 I wanted to. 1693 01:40:31.520 --> 01:40:33.680 Visit Nigeria just to take a look at Nigeria. 1694 01:40:34.039 --> 01:40:37.039 Maybe not to invest yet, but just to take a look. 1695 01:40:37.600 --> 01:40:40.159 And why do I need to know someone in Nigeria. 1696 01:40:40.439 --> 01:40:44.319 I have money, so I think we can also look 1697 01:40:44.359 --> 01:40:44.880 at that part. 1698 01:40:46.319 --> 01:40:49.079 You can. Yeah, I would be. 1699 01:40:49.119 --> 01:40:52.479 Coming there, but I myself a Nagera citizen, so I 1700 01:40:52.600 --> 01:40:53.600 hold a different passport. 1701 01:40:53.800 --> 01:40:57.199 But to visit Nigeria was required someone, right. 1702 01:40:58.880 --> 01:41:01.680 I have friends in the States, and the lady sent 1703 01:41:01.880 --> 01:41:05.239 me a page from Ghana. And in Ghana they have 1704 01:41:05.359 --> 01:41:07.479 what you're talking about where if you want to come 1705 01:41:07.520 --> 01:41:10.600 back to Ghana and get an African name and buy 1706 01:41:10.680 --> 01:41:13.720 a house. In Ghana they have this editing built to 1707 01:41:13.760 --> 01:41:18.119 American standard with the plugs and everything. In Ghana you 1708 01:41:18.239 --> 01:41:22.279 can do that. Yeah. In Bennett they have if you 1709 01:41:22.319 --> 01:41:24.760 want to go on city where the slaves went out 1710 01:41:24.880 --> 01:41:28.199 of the ceremony, they have all that stuff. In Senegal 1711 01:41:28.760 --> 01:41:29.680 they have a tour. 1712 01:41:29.680 --> 01:41:32.079 Visit wander yeah, and also do business. 1713 01:41:32.199 --> 01:41:36.000 Oh my god, Rwanda is a sing Singapore of Africa. 1714 01:41:36.920 --> 01:41:40.119 Have I started already? Okay, good job it's easy. 1715 01:41:39.920 --> 01:41:42.640 They have they are very busy. Just need to do 1716 01:41:42.680 --> 01:41:49.119 a hashtag vis Wanda and everything is online. Actually, so 1717 01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:51.600 a thought. 1718 01:41:51.760 --> 01:41:55.439 Right when I was doing my master's in international law, 1719 01:41:56.000 --> 01:41:59.720 one of the courses we had was international research. 1720 01:42:00.199 --> 01:42:02.399 Something and we had a project. 1721 01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:06.920 So what I did is to because I was an 1722 01:42:07.000 --> 01:42:11.439 international students, you know, no international students, but I. 1723 01:42:11.520 --> 01:42:16.000 Was from abroad, so there was you know, it's to 1724 01:42:16.119 --> 01:42:20.560 get good points for you to get an a. Maybe 1725 01:42:20.600 --> 01:42:24.840 you should do a research to have like a a. 1726 01:42:26.840 --> 01:42:30.880 Like outline of how to people can visit your country 1727 01:42:31.119 --> 01:42:33.359 to do investments, the laws and everything. 1728 01:42:33.720 --> 01:42:35.640 So I did all of that and that in a 1729 01:42:36.560 --> 01:42:40.399 oh h and that was before they visited Wanda, you know. 1730 01:42:42.159 --> 01:42:44.960 But as I said, this is a very great point 1731 01:42:45.039 --> 01:42:47.760 though that we are talking about going out, but we 1732 01:42:47.840 --> 01:42:49.760 make it very very hard. I mean, this is why 1733 01:42:49.800 --> 01:42:52.520 why the US give Najera just the three three months 1734 01:42:52.520 --> 01:42:56.560 single ensues because it said reciprocal. To come to Nigeria 1735 01:42:56.640 --> 01:42:59.720 from America is very difficult. Bill Gates at the time 1736 01:43:00.640 --> 01:43:02.680 you have to go get a visa to come to Nigeria. 1737 01:43:02.920 --> 01:43:05.000 I don't know why is making it so difficult, Like 1738 01:43:05.199 --> 01:43:07.039 Ramsey is saying, if you want to come to the 1739 01:43:07.079 --> 01:43:09.680 country to visit that we should actually be saying the 1740 01:43:09.800 --> 01:43:12.399 land and get visit visa on arrival. I don't know 1741 01:43:12.439 --> 01:43:15.159 why it's so difficult. What are we what are we 1742 01:43:15.319 --> 01:43:17.399 dragging with them to say they give us six months? 1743 01:43:17.439 --> 01:43:19.279 To give them six months? We are the ones looking 1744 01:43:19.359 --> 01:43:22.039 for the FDI, you know, So, Ramsey, I think it 1745 01:43:22.079 --> 01:43:24.159 is a great point you're making that we've got to 1746 01:43:24.199 --> 01:43:26.359 make the country not just to say we want investments, 1747 01:43:26.439 --> 01:43:28.840 but even at the airport and the PaperWorks get to 1748 01:43:28.960 --> 01:43:31.600 the airport. It should be easier. Why should Nigeria go 1749 01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:34.479 get a visa if you're like, if you're in Nigerian 1750 01:43:34.640 --> 01:43:37.279 with an American passport, you have to go get a 1751 01:43:37.359 --> 01:43:41.000 visa to come to Nigeria. Why you know, why why 1752 01:43:41.039 --> 01:43:43.479 can't you come and say my father is Why does it? 1753 01:43:43.840 --> 01:43:43.960 You know? 1754 01:43:44.159 --> 01:43:47.319 It's great point though, we have to make it easier 1755 01:43:47.399 --> 01:43:50.039 because you're bringing money back to invest in the country 1756 01:43:50.079 --> 01:43:51.520 and that should be the number one thing, you know, 1757 01:43:51.680 --> 01:43:55.760 and you're bringing folks back, so excellent. Thanks for that. 1758 01:43:57.119 --> 01:43:59.920 I was gonna come back. Ramsey. Are you your okay? 1759 01:44:00.039 --> 01:44:02.000 You got your question? You're good? 1760 01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:07.079 Yeah. The last part that you say it's not just doing. 1761 01:44:07.720 --> 01:44:10.840 It's just required that in Nigelia, someone who is an 1762 01:44:10.840 --> 01:44:13.600 Aguran that has international. 1763 01:44:13.199 --> 01:44:18.159 Passport has to write invite me. Why do someone invite me? 1764 01:44:18.239 --> 01:44:21.720 Can I just pick interested in Angelia and go to Nigeria, wouldn't. 1765 01:44:21.439 --> 01:44:26.520 Know anyone in Nigeria. Yeah, I have to go to Nigeria, 1766 01:44:27.680 --> 01:44:28.000 you know that. 1767 01:44:28.039 --> 01:44:29.840 I think that requirement should be removed because there are 1768 01:44:29.840 --> 01:44:31.479 a lot of people who may have money and want 1769 01:44:31.479 --> 01:44:33.640 to visit Nigeria, but they may not know people in 1770 01:44:33.720 --> 01:44:36.600 Nigeria to write and invite them and be willing. 1771 01:44:36.439 --> 01:44:39.199 To give them the paper their passport. 1772 01:44:40.039 --> 01:44:42.520 Except yeah, anyway the world you go to you can. 1773 01:44:42.880 --> 01:44:44.760 I went to Kenya. You just walk in. You get 1774 01:44:44.800 --> 01:44:46.760 a B sign you're walking. I haven't been to Ruanda. 1775 01:44:46.840 --> 01:44:48.359 Maybe I'll come, but you know, I'm not sure to 1776 01:44:48.479 --> 01:44:49.199 ask what that's a. 1777 01:44:49.239 --> 01:44:51.600 Page and there's loves are required for Africa. 1778 01:44:51.880 --> 01:44:53.119 Yeah, but you know why. 1779 01:44:55.239 --> 01:44:59.239 I've started over in Gali. Before I was en route 1780 01:44:59.479 --> 01:45:02.159 to back to the US from Nigeria. I stopped with 1781 01:45:02.199 --> 01:45:05.239 ving Jali and I had a US passport. I didn't 1782 01:45:05.239 --> 01:45:07.600 have my Nageram passport and they told me it would 1783 01:45:07.600 --> 01:45:09.680 have been easier if I had an Anjeriam. 1784 01:45:09.359 --> 01:45:11.840 Passport to go into into that. 1785 01:45:13.199 --> 01:45:15.680 I thought my US passport would make everything easy for me, 1786 01:45:15.760 --> 01:45:18.640 but I actually they said if I hadn't a Dream passport. 1787 01:45:18.239 --> 01:45:20.800 It would I don't have to pay When you have 1788 01:45:20.880 --> 01:45:23.319 a US US passport, you have to pay something. 1789 01:45:24.920 --> 01:45:28.199 Something happened to me in Togo when I wanted to 1790 01:45:28.279 --> 01:45:30.600 go go and they told me I didn't have a 1791 01:45:30.680 --> 01:45:33.000 co worst passport. You know, I had a US passport. 1792 01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:34.520 I was supposed to go get a visa. But if 1793 01:45:34.520 --> 01:45:36.279 I had an an JAM passport that I would not 1794 01:45:36.359 --> 01:45:36.920 have needed that. 1795 01:45:37.399 --> 01:45:41.239 So my Dream passport is part needed when you're flying 1796 01:45:41.439 --> 01:45:41.800 from here. 1797 01:45:41.920 --> 01:45:44.239 Yeah, because me, I traveled with US passport. I got 1798 01:45:44.279 --> 01:45:45.199 to n Jail with a visit. 1799 01:45:45.319 --> 01:45:49.960 I know, you know because me, I know, but I 1800 01:45:50.520 --> 01:45:52.960 last time I landed that I probably need to have 1801 01:45:53.119 --> 01:45:54.640 my Nageram passport along with me. 1802 01:45:55.479 --> 01:45:56.279 Good good point. 1803 01:45:56.840 --> 01:45:59.560 You can quickly applied for a coast travel document in 1804 01:45:59.600 --> 01:46:01.239 any of the West African countries to be able to 1805 01:46:01.279 --> 01:46:03.199 travel around with the US passport. 1806 01:46:05.119 --> 01:46:07.319 Okay, good pointing To come back to you on this 1807 01:46:07.479 --> 01:46:11.199 issue of immigration and paper papers and password. Most of 1808 01:46:11.279 --> 01:46:14.000 the guys in South America, they have these documents that 1809 01:46:14.039 --> 01:46:16.720 they give to their citizens when they're in the United States, 1810 01:46:17.279 --> 01:46:21.720 and those documents are accepted by banks. For instance, they 1811 01:46:21.760 --> 01:46:25.159 have what they call the Councilar card that Mexicans give 1812 01:46:25.199 --> 01:46:27.399 to their citizens. They get it, I think in the 1813 01:46:27.640 --> 01:46:31.319 US and the banks in America accept that document to 1814 01:46:31.359 --> 01:46:34.520 open an account. I think Gatemala has the DUI card 1815 01:46:34.800 --> 01:46:38.880 is in nationality card. There's a border crossing card. Why 1816 01:46:38.960 --> 01:46:41.479 don't Africans really have this because in the way, when 1817 01:46:41.479 --> 01:46:43.560 you come into the country, you don't have a passport, 1818 01:46:43.680 --> 01:46:47.760 you don't have anything. It gives you ID verifiable with 1819 01:46:47.920 --> 01:46:50.159 your picture and all that. Then you can then go 1820 01:46:50.600 --> 01:46:54.520 and then you start that process of getting paperwork in 1821 01:46:54.600 --> 01:46:57.279 the state. Do you I do have any experience Do 1822 01:46:57.319 --> 01:46:59.640 you notice what I'm talking about in this paperwork that 1823 01:46:59.640 --> 01:47:06.199 I'm talking about, the card, Yeah, the councilor card from 1824 01:47:06.279 --> 01:47:08.279 Mexico that they give to them and they're able to 1825 01:47:08.439 --> 01:47:11.720 use it to then do processes inside America. I mean, 1826 01:47:11.760 --> 01:47:14.600 I don't think any African country has anything like that 1827 01:47:14.800 --> 01:47:17.000 that we issue, apart from a visa which is not 1828 01:47:17.079 --> 01:47:17.760 issued by US. 1829 01:47:18.439 --> 01:47:22.680 I think some countries have construct card. I think. 1830 01:47:24.079 --> 01:47:27.880 Again, Wanda has a construct card called Divoir has a 1831 01:47:27.960 --> 01:47:29.199 construct card, but I don't know. 1832 01:47:29.199 --> 01:47:32.840 If it's a picture, it gives a picture, it's a picture. 1833 01:47:32.520 --> 01:47:32.720 I D. 1834 01:47:33.159 --> 01:47:36.359 Yeah, this is almost like like a per so like 1835 01:47:36.560 --> 01:47:39.560 if you want to use services from the embassy, you. 1836 01:47:39.600 --> 01:47:41.119 Have to have a consul card. 1837 01:47:41.479 --> 01:47:44.640 Yes, exactly. And the US banks accepted. 1838 01:47:45.640 --> 01:47:50.079 So the US banks accept there are some banks that 1839 01:47:50.279 --> 01:47:58.199 do not accept any foreign ye, but Bank of America, 1840 01:47:58.640 --> 01:48:01.880 if you have an ID, you have a passport. 1841 01:48:03.920 --> 01:48:06.600 Account, yeah, if you got now, if you have a 1842 01:48:06.760 --> 01:48:10.439 passport and the visa, those are two forms of ID 1843 01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:14.760 they like they would accept, they would accept. No, if 1844 01:48:14.800 --> 01:48:16.359 you have a visa, you. 1845 01:48:16.439 --> 01:48:18.760 Have to shop around the banks like the big banks. 1846 01:48:18.880 --> 01:48:21.600 Maybe not like like some some of the big banks 1847 01:48:21.640 --> 01:48:24.880 and the Bank of America, I know it's not the 1848 01:48:25.319 --> 01:48:29.239 if you have a passport, I know for I have 1849 01:48:29.680 --> 01:48:31.680 of course, how you got here about. 1850 01:48:31.439 --> 01:48:33.600 A visa, I know for a fact that if you 1851 01:48:33.800 --> 01:48:35.920 go to Wells, Wells FAG or if you. 1852 01:48:36.039 --> 01:48:40.479 Have I don't think of America is no. 1853 01:48:40.600 --> 01:48:43.720 But I'm trying. I'm trying that they will open account 1854 01:48:43.800 --> 01:48:47.159 for you with if you if you're working with your passport, 1855 01:48:47.199 --> 01:48:50.840 your foreign passport and you have a local I D. 1856 01:48:51.159 --> 01:48:54.359 So you have a Nigerian passport and have a driver's 1857 01:48:54.439 --> 01:48:56.359 license from the US to open account for you. 1858 01:48:56.640 --> 01:48:59.199 Even if you have a visa in your passport, they open. 1859 01:48:59.520 --> 01:49:02.119 Two of the Like students when they come here, they 1860 01:49:02.159 --> 01:49:06.920 don't have yet an ID, they have their passport and 1861 01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:10.880 they have their visa, so they open accounts. 1862 01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:14.000 But like you said, it's not like all the banks. Yep, 1863 01:49:14.399 --> 01:49:16.920 you have to really know which bank accepts. 1864 01:49:18.319 --> 01:49:21.560 Okay, And again most of the the d ms, I'm 1865 01:49:21.600 --> 01:49:25.520 getting there to do it, spouse, if I if I'm pregnant, 1866 01:49:25.680 --> 01:49:28.000 to do it, students, visas. We've covered the to do 1867 01:49:28.079 --> 01:49:30.439 with the business visas with quite a lot of that. 1868 01:49:30.680 --> 01:49:34.159 I'm looking for any new one. Really haven't covered if 1869 01:49:34.560 --> 01:49:37.399 I'm in this So yeah, CLO. If I'm in America 1870 01:49:37.640 --> 01:49:40.319 and I do not have paperwork, I'm in America, what 1871 01:49:40.680 --> 01:49:50.600 can I do today? He came in, the visa has expired, 1872 01:49:50.680 --> 01:49:53.399 his visa has experis over out stadi is visa, so 1873 01:49:53.560 --> 01:49:57.520 now he has no he has no he's over states visa. 1874 01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:00.319 What is the legal thing to do at this small moments? 1875 01:50:01.239 --> 01:50:04.479 That's that then most might be nothing legal to do. 1876 01:50:05.439 --> 01:50:07.680 You know, are you dating someone who is willing to 1877 01:50:07.800 --> 01:50:08.159 marry you. 1878 01:50:08.720 --> 01:50:12.039 That is only without you can say that. 1879 01:50:17.680 --> 01:50:21.439 So Ramsey is saying, I'm replying to the gentleman that's asking. 1880 01:50:21.600 --> 01:50:24.199 So his the answer came back. If you are dating 1881 01:50:24.359 --> 01:50:26.560 someone that is willing to marry you, then you can 1882 01:50:26.640 --> 01:50:29.279 apply for the spousal but you have to. 1883 01:50:29.319 --> 01:50:30.600 Be aware of marriage fraud. 1884 01:50:31.119 --> 01:50:37.439 Marriage very is very just fairly lovely real. Yeah, because 1885 01:50:37.920 --> 01:50:43.399 what you are that looks for beautiful ones? 1886 01:50:44.279 --> 01:50:46.840 Doctor, ob doctor you don't joke about this thing. I beg, 1887 01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:50.239 I beg because it's a serious question. Doctor there actually 1888 01:50:50.319 --> 01:50:51.800 asking that the guy has come. 1889 01:50:51.880 --> 01:50:53.079 There is a big deal. 1890 01:50:53.159 --> 01:50:57.239 It's it's so once you are found to be you are, 1891 01:50:58.920 --> 01:51:02.199 there's a bar or to a tour for cea bar 1892 01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:07.359 and it is nothing. There's no even if you after 1893 01:51:07.479 --> 01:51:10.479 that you marry somebody for good reasons and get a job, 1894 01:51:10.640 --> 01:51:15.159 you cannot immigrate in the United States. Wow, maybe the 1895 01:51:15.279 --> 01:51:19.119 only way you can have. Basically, it burns you from 1896 01:51:19.359 --> 01:51:24.079 any almost any other than human Italian other than asylum. 1897 01:51:26.079 --> 01:51:28.840 So if you do marriage fraud, you cannot apply for 1898 01:51:29.079 --> 01:51:32.000 any other sort of perfectly humanitarian ones and all that. 1899 01:51:32.119 --> 01:51:35.560 And yeah, if it's determined that you know, like they 1900 01:51:35.800 --> 01:51:39.680 determine that you can challenge that, but once it's determined, 1901 01:51:40.439 --> 01:51:41.600 there's nothing you can do. 1902 01:51:42.119 --> 01:51:48.279 It's son just needs about so like hm, hm, tough one, tough, tough, 1903 01:51:48.359 --> 01:51:49.800 tough one. So I mean the guy can go and 1904 01:51:49.920 --> 01:51:52.119 get he can't join the US Army. That's what he's 1905 01:51:52.119 --> 01:51:53.399 asking join the US AD. 1906 01:51:53.760 --> 01:51:56.439 So to join the USAMY you have to have a 1907 01:51:56.520 --> 01:51:57.000 green card. 1908 01:51:57.079 --> 01:51:59.600 So they before they used to say okay, you can 1909 01:51:59.720 --> 01:52:03.640 now joined the army and then be a pathway to 1910 01:52:03.680 --> 01:52:05.920 your citizenship. And now they are requiring you to have 1911 01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:09.239 a green card even ascieties. 1912 01:52:09.319 --> 01:52:10.680 I don't think they're allowed to have. 1913 01:52:12.920 --> 01:52:18.560 So as sil technically pemnent wrestler where they are approved 1914 01:52:18.600 --> 01:52:18.960 to stay. 1915 01:52:19.079 --> 01:52:20.439 So you can't join. 1916 01:52:21.079 --> 01:52:23.920 But that to this gentleman, whether it's not a man 1917 01:52:24.079 --> 01:52:24.560 or woman. 1918 01:52:24.880 --> 01:52:29.319 You know, the only top for a green card within 1919 01:52:29.399 --> 01:52:34.199 a year over your asylum or refugids. You're not technically 1920 01:52:34.279 --> 01:52:37.239 you know, you have to apply for it, have a 1921 01:52:37.319 --> 01:52:38.000 green card. 1922 01:52:40.439 --> 01:52:40.600 Or not. 1923 01:52:41.199 --> 01:52:43.880 So this guy. The only for this guy to Lielo 1924 01:52:45.000 --> 01:52:48.920 for three years. His only option is to Lilo. 1925 01:52:50.399 --> 01:52:52.279 Yeah, well he has the. 1926 01:52:52.359 --> 01:52:53.319 Option that I mentioned. 1927 01:52:53.680 --> 01:52:56.720 If he's dating someone seriously and they love themselves, they 1928 01:52:56.760 --> 01:52:57.760 can just god marriage. 1929 01:52:57.960 --> 01:52:59.159 And I think that's the only. 1930 01:53:00.800 --> 01:53:05.479 Very interesting Okay you've heard, mister, mister chief, you've heard. So, yeah, 1931 01:53:05.560 --> 01:53:08.199 that's the best advice I've got. Let me found that 1932 01:53:08.319 --> 01:53:11.640 good D m out here. So I am a student, 1933 01:53:12.920 --> 01:53:15.520 it's good. I'm a student. I've done my master's. I 1934 01:53:15.720 --> 01:53:17.880 like to go get my p Yeah, we've covered that. 1935 01:53:18.319 --> 01:53:20.880 Clinton has said if you are, yeah, I said, it's. 1936 01:53:21.319 --> 01:53:24.640 Schedule consultation with me to see options. 1937 01:53:25.159 --> 01:53:28.000 Oh is there anything I needs to know about? Is 1938 01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:34.800 any is your antenna going, speers going BEPEP? Is your 1939 01:53:34.960 --> 01:53:37.560 Is anything he's doing wrong? He says his masters likes 1940 01:53:37.560 --> 01:53:39.640 to go to pH D. You think she has to 1941 01:53:39.680 --> 01:53:40.319 go see a lawyer? 1942 01:53:42.039 --> 01:53:43.680 No, to know the past? 1943 01:53:44.039 --> 01:53:49.720 Oh I see. Okay, all right, mister mister good candidate. 1944 01:53:50.039 --> 01:53:53.680 Maybe they may be a good calidar for either national 1945 01:53:53.800 --> 01:53:54.479 interest whatever. 1946 01:53:55.279 --> 01:53:59.560 Okay, even EB one, which is Extra. 1947 01:53:59.640 --> 01:54:03.000 Ability team they. 1948 01:54:02.039 --> 01:54:06.439 Called the OKA. Yeah. So she's not saying you're in trouble. 1949 01:54:06.520 --> 01:54:09.960 She's saying you might basically your option to review options 1950 01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:12.239 for you because you might have other parties apart from 1951 01:54:12.359 --> 01:54:15.199 just what you're consumer. What you're saying, just to clarify that, Yeah, 1952 01:54:15.680 --> 01:54:17.880 so you're not You're not in trouble questions of the 1953 01:54:17.960 --> 01:54:21.439 path is yeah, just DM her. Yeah, I don't want 1954 01:54:21.479 --> 01:54:24.600 to call you, just like they they So. 1955 01:54:24.800 --> 01:54:27.920 Once you go on my profile, there's a way to 1956 01:54:28.000 --> 01:54:28.600 contact me. 1957 01:54:29.319 --> 01:54:31.720 Sorry she has had They can. 1958 01:54:31.720 --> 01:54:34.920 Say, oh, I was in the space with the ALU 1959 01:54:35.479 --> 01:54:35.840 and then that. 1960 01:54:35.920 --> 01:54:39.680 We know, gotcha, gotcha? Perfect? That works. Muster mind your 1961 01:54:39.680 --> 01:54:40.399 handles up a bit. 1962 01:54:41.760 --> 01:54:48.520 Yeah, just trying to bash your guests about opening a business. 1963 01:54:49.239 --> 01:54:51.920 You know, as a foreigner in the US. So if 1964 01:54:51.960 --> 01:54:55.600 you come over to the US, you can obtain an I, 1965 01:54:55.800 --> 01:54:59.680 T I N the individual or is IT X number yep, 1966 01:55:00.439 --> 01:55:02.760 your man tax number will allow you to do things 1967 01:55:02.880 --> 01:55:08.479 like start an LLC and get a bank account. Those 1968 01:55:08.560 --> 01:55:10.720 things are easy to get. I think the only thing 1969 01:55:10.800 --> 01:55:12.319 with the bank account is that you have to have 1970 01:55:12.720 --> 01:55:17.239 like some form of ID. But other than that you 1971 01:55:17.279 --> 01:55:19.399 can start to help. You know, this doesn't help you 1972 01:55:19.640 --> 01:55:22.479 with your visa, meaning you can stay if you're not 1973 01:55:22.640 --> 01:55:26.039 supposed to be here. But I have known people that 1974 01:55:26.119 --> 01:55:28.880 are able to get certain jobs, you know, ten ninety 1975 01:55:28.960 --> 01:55:29.880 nine jobs. 1976 01:55:32.279 --> 01:55:35.640 With with the IT I and number as opposed to 1977 01:55:36.239 --> 01:55:39.279 a Social Security number. But I just wanted to ask 1978 01:55:39.319 --> 01:55:40.199 your guests about that. 1979 01:55:40.439 --> 01:55:42.000 I mean, like I said, it doesn't have anything to 1980 01:55:42.079 --> 01:55:44.279 do with your your immigrates and status per se. 1981 01:55:44.359 --> 01:55:51.399 But I think I think it's a great question Tyson. Yeah, cluty, 1982 01:55:51.479 --> 01:55:53.800 So he's basically balk about the it in. You know, 1983 01:55:53.920 --> 01:55:57.479 you don't have a say, so everybody can. 1984 01:55:58.880 --> 01:56:03.560 Get it TIAR number. Uh got tier number of taxi 1985 01:56:03.640 --> 01:56:08.840 education number because you know, the government was their taxes. 1986 01:56:08.840 --> 01:56:14.279 They don't care anyway, however, and that's how a lot 1987 01:56:14.319 --> 01:56:19.359 of people do to self event immigration. However, now you 1988 01:56:19.439 --> 01:56:23.560 know you are, you are engaging in a lawful employment. 1989 01:56:24.960 --> 01:56:26.880 Some people ain't gotta do what they've gotta do. 1990 01:56:27.760 --> 01:56:34.399 However, with this administration, now, before the Social Security was 1991 01:56:34.560 --> 01:56:37.199 not supposed to disclose information. 1992 01:56:38.319 --> 01:56:42.199 So one of the executive actions that was. 1993 01:56:44.359 --> 01:56:47.840 Like that was put in place was to allow the 1994 01:56:47.960 --> 01:56:55.000 Social Securities Service Office to disclose people with TI number 1995 01:56:55.039 --> 01:56:59.119 who don't have any paperwork. Now they can so, and 1996 01:56:59.319 --> 01:57:04.479 it's been going in the court processes. I haven't checked, 1997 01:57:04.560 --> 01:57:08.840 but I know for sure they gave the injunction. 1998 01:57:09.560 --> 01:57:11.399 So some of the. 1999 01:57:14.079 --> 01:57:19.840 The advocates for immigrants find injunction to enjoy the government 2000 01:57:19.920 --> 01:57:25.560 from accessing the Social Security or not necessarily the IRIS 2001 01:57:25.680 --> 01:57:29.760 the RAS information. However, even in the Supreme Court. 2002 01:57:30.279 --> 01:57:34.359 Allowed do not enjoying, meaning now the. 2003 01:57:34.439 --> 01:57:37.960 DHS, the develoment of homeless Security is able up to 2004 01:57:38.079 --> 01:57:42.560 access iris information from undocumented. 2005 01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:46.720 Individuals, even though we don't know what the final ruling 2006 01:57:46.880 --> 01:57:51.520 is going to be. So yes, people do that because 2007 01:57:51.560 --> 01:57:54.000 they have to find a way to survive. But they 2008 01:57:54.039 --> 01:57:57.119 are breached of immigration law. 2009 01:57:57.640 --> 01:58:04.439 And if now with the information is given, they may 2010 01:58:04.520 --> 01:58:08.239 be able to the interests may pursue them and put 2011 01:58:08.319 --> 01:58:09.439 them in the vocal seeds. 2012 01:58:09.600 --> 01:58:11.000 And yeah. 2013 01:58:11.239 --> 01:58:13.800 But but but on the I'm not a lawyer, right, 2014 01:58:14.119 --> 01:58:16.199 I'm not a lawyer. But on the personal note, I'd 2015 01:58:16.279 --> 01:58:20.439 rather have it. I'd rather have the business with the item, 2016 01:58:21.000 --> 01:58:23.319 and I can argue in code that I'm doing business 2017 01:58:23.319 --> 01:58:23.920 in America. 2018 01:58:24.520 --> 01:58:26.119 The thing. Yes, that's the thing. 2019 01:58:26.279 --> 01:58:29.760 People there are They were like, okay, you know, if 2020 01:58:29.800 --> 01:58:33.319 you pay into the system and you pay taxes, you 2021 01:58:33.479 --> 01:58:37.319 may be given the amnesty or then the pathway into 2022 01:58:37.359 --> 01:58:39.239 seasonship and they'll probability to do that. 2023 01:58:39.560 --> 01:58:39.760 Yeah. 2024 01:58:40.079 --> 01:58:46.399 So yeah, and the administration has changed exactly exactly. 2025 01:58:47.119 --> 01:58:51.239 So I mean, so back to that person, mastermind back together. 2026 01:58:51.239 --> 01:58:53.720 I asked the question before maybe the only thing he 2027 01:58:53.840 --> 01:58:56.640 could do is to go set up a business use 2028 01:58:56.720 --> 01:58:59.279 an iteing to rest an LLC. 2029 01:59:00.119 --> 01:59:02.960 But attorney, I cannot advise anybody. 2030 01:59:02.640 --> 01:59:06.640 To do that, to do that because okay, yeah you can. 2031 01:59:06.960 --> 01:59:07.479 You know, it's. 2032 01:59:07.359 --> 01:59:09.880 Interesting because Canadians do it all the time in the US. 2033 01:59:10.600 --> 01:59:12.159 So you know when you go on to Florida and 2034 01:59:12.159 --> 01:59:14.520 see all those people with houses and stuff, EMPLOYDA, they 2035 01:59:14.560 --> 01:59:17.319 do something they do they go through a similar product. 2036 01:59:18.039 --> 01:59:20.800 You can have an NC. So the NC means it's 2037 01:59:20.840 --> 01:59:24.399 a company. So as you have a company, as long as. 2038 01:59:24.399 --> 01:59:28.600 You do not work like actually work for NC, you 2039 01:59:28.640 --> 01:59:31.760 can invest anywhere in the world. But the thing is 2040 01:59:31.920 --> 01:59:36.680 if you are actively working without authorization, not just your company. 2041 01:59:36.760 --> 01:59:39.159 Could you have a company and set. 2042 01:59:39.039 --> 01:59:42.479 Up the ways to give your dividends in your Canada 2043 01:59:42.600 --> 01:59:46.920 whatever you are, but not work for the company, like 2044 01:59:47.119 --> 01:59:50.079 not do productive work without authorization. 2045 01:59:50.279 --> 01:59:54.399 Like so you can, you can, you can work. 2046 01:59:54.800 --> 01:59:56.800 You can work, but it has to be ten ninety nine. 2047 01:59:57.760 --> 02:00:00.720 So if you're if you're an LLC, what I understand. 2048 02:00:01.680 --> 02:00:04.560 No, still you don't have a work permit. 2049 02:00:04.880 --> 02:00:06.800 You don't have a work permany So if you go 2050 02:00:07.079 --> 02:00:08.800 so yeah you can, I unst it will. 2051 02:00:08.720 --> 02:00:11.800 Take your money because they want their money. But for 2052 02:00:12.239 --> 02:00:16.560 employment purposes. If if you're a safe Canadian you come 2053 02:00:16.640 --> 02:00:19.760 here as a visitor, you are already breaching you you 2054 02:00:19.880 --> 02:00:21.560 are actually. 2055 02:00:23.079 --> 02:00:26.520 You are. You are not in a compliance with your 2056 02:00:26.600 --> 02:00:29.199 visitor status because as a visitor you are not supposed 2057 02:00:29.239 --> 02:00:33.600 to work. So if you get ten eighty nine, then 2058 02:00:33.880 --> 02:00:34.760 it's going to be. 2059 02:00:37.239 --> 02:00:41.520 A problem. However, you might need to get an accountant 2060 02:00:41.720 --> 02:00:44.840 to see how they can because there are some like 2061 02:00:45.000 --> 02:00:48.520 dividends you don't you cannot cash out your dividends. Like 2062 02:00:48.680 --> 02:00:51.800 basically if you can have a company and the company 2063 02:00:52.479 --> 02:00:57.159 does well, but there are other ways to to retrieve 2064 02:00:57.199 --> 02:01:00.680 your dividends other than working from the United States, there 2065 02:01:00.760 --> 02:01:01.279 you can do that. 2066 02:01:01.920 --> 02:01:06.560 Mhmm. I think it meant get advices, just get advised. 2067 02:01:06.600 --> 02:01:09.159 Go see everyone is different, So don't sit down with 2068 02:01:09.199 --> 02:01:11.600 a lawyer like Claudine and accounting and they'll say this 2069 02:01:11.640 --> 02:01:13.600 is what I want to do. Give get advice. That's 2070 02:01:13.640 --> 02:01:15.640 what I would say, because if you get it wrong, 2071 02:01:15.920 --> 02:01:19.960 the consequences are really going to be major. Our See, guys, 2072 02:01:20.000 --> 02:01:23.960 we'll spend nearly two hours clouding, promise give me two hours. 2073 02:01:24.000 --> 02:01:27.239 So we're rounding down. I think we'll take one or 2074 02:01:27.279 --> 02:01:29.600 two and then we'll sort of like call it a day. 2075 02:01:29.720 --> 02:01:32.439 Thank you so much, Conning for being here. R S 2076 02:01:32.880 --> 02:01:35.000 R S a company that last time I think you're Polish. 2077 02:01:35.520 --> 02:01:43.319 Go ahead, Rcie, you've got the floor or he's dropped off. Okay, 2078 02:01:43.720 --> 02:01:47.079 Perfect Clouding has been I would say it's been wonderful 2079 02:01:47.239 --> 02:01:50.760 just having you here just to explain these things that 2080 02:01:50.880 --> 02:01:54.520 look a bit complicated. Thank you for doing that. That's 2081 02:01:54.560 --> 02:01:57.399 a glass guy here. Let me just see this tweet 2082 02:01:57.520 --> 02:02:01.600 real quick, Clouding, give me a second, Just give me 2083 02:02:01.640 --> 02:02:05.439 a second to read this. Okay, perfect I will this 2084 02:02:05.640 --> 02:02:08.279 is too long for me to read. We'll spend two 2085 02:02:08.399 --> 02:02:13.039 hours speaking with you closing, and I've just learned. Really 2086 02:02:13.199 --> 02:02:15.319 so just as that was the whole idea to bring 2087 02:02:15.399 --> 02:02:18.640 an expert in here, lots of things we here secondhand 2088 02:02:19.119 --> 02:02:21.560 might not be true. So we brought you in here 2089 02:02:21.640 --> 02:02:25.199 to just talk to us about these immigration issues, to 2090 02:02:25.359 --> 02:02:28.560 tie it also into finance. Now, not about EB five, 2091 02:02:29.000 --> 02:02:32.520 I've not about the E two, not about the international period. 2092 02:02:32.520 --> 02:02:34.960 It's very very important for the business folks out here 2093 02:02:35.319 --> 02:02:38.000 that want to talk diversify. They don't need to get 2094 02:02:38.039 --> 02:02:40.239 a second passport, but they want also dive as a FI. 2095 02:02:40.319 --> 02:02:43.279 And it comes to the second passport. Hey, let's do that. 2096 02:02:43.399 --> 02:02:46.079 So I thank you so much for spending two hours 2097 02:02:46.119 --> 02:02:48.319 with us here, not just tonight you have but also 2098 02:02:48.439 --> 02:02:50.720 on the African content to talk about this. You're a 2099 02:02:50.760 --> 02:02:53.199 great advocate for this and I'm really happy that you're 2100 02:02:53.319 --> 02:02:54.319 to spend time with us. 2101 02:02:55.640 --> 02:02:58.760 Thanks so much. It's a pleasure. Thank you for having 2102 02:02:58.880 --> 02:03:05.119 me and what we discussed has been helpful to many. 2103 02:03:07.399 --> 02:03:10.159 And you can call me back another time. 2104 02:03:10.439 --> 02:03:13.520 Thank you, Thank you. We will if we will. I'm 2105 02:03:13.560 --> 02:03:16.840 sure folks that are a bit shy all the DMC 2106 02:03:16.920 --> 02:03:19.840 of sending to me. I'm not a lawyer, actually. 2107 02:03:21.000 --> 02:03:22.079 Think I work for the government. 2108 02:03:22.239 --> 02:03:24.319 No, I just think that people are bit I mean, 2109 02:03:25.000 --> 02:03:30.279 if I don't want it, I'm not sure why we would, 2110 02:03:30.319 --> 02:03:32.439 why we will be worried. So I saw that I 2111 02:03:32.600 --> 02:03:35.279 was very very interesting. I don't want to talk because 2112 02:03:35.319 --> 02:03:37.239 they're going to apply for a visa. They don't want 2113 02:03:37.239 --> 02:03:39.079 to look as if they are. I don't know what 2114 02:03:39.239 --> 02:03:41.479 doesn't make any sense to me asking information. It's a 2115 02:03:41.600 --> 02:03:44.079 very open space. This is not what they're looking for. 2116 02:03:44.159 --> 02:03:48.159 They're looking for social media comments that are against the 2117 02:03:49.079 --> 02:03:51.159 fundamentals ideas of the US government. This is not This 2118 02:03:51.279 --> 02:03:54.039 is just an information on space. We want to get 2119 02:03:54.079 --> 02:03:57.399 information about the processes the right way. 2120 02:03:57.319 --> 02:03:57.680 To do it. 2121 02:03:57.800 --> 02:04:00.359 So I'm not sure why you'll be worried about talking 2122 02:04:00.720 --> 02:04:03.800 or putting your face out there. I don't think that 2123 02:04:03.920 --> 02:04:04.319 the US. 2124 02:04:04.720 --> 02:04:06.920 There are some questions in the in the comments, so 2125 02:04:07.159 --> 02:04:10.279 did you with them? As one of the. 2126 02:04:10.439 --> 02:04:14.760 Circumstances that caused one asylum application to be sent in 2127 02:04:14.840 --> 02:04:16.720 mil job without. 2128 02:04:18.079 --> 02:04:20.079 Has been interviewed by elimolation. 2129 02:04:20.399 --> 02:04:22.479 Officer, you should take that place. 2130 02:04:23.520 --> 02:04:28.319 Hmmm, I don't think I've seen this one. They schedule, 2131 02:04:29.920 --> 02:04:30.479 they schedule. 2132 02:04:32.199 --> 02:04:34.960 So once there are different types of asylum. There's there's 2133 02:04:35.039 --> 02:04:39.119 what's called affirmative asylum. That I mean somebody came here 2134 02:04:39.640 --> 02:04:42.439 with a visa and then they decide to apply for asylum. 2135 02:04:42.600 --> 02:04:46.600 That's affirmative. It goes to the US Asylum Office. 2136 02:04:47.039 --> 02:04:49.680 You know, we have different asylum offices around the country, 2137 02:04:50.359 --> 02:04:55.399 and they who were scheduling for an interview with an 2138 02:04:55.399 --> 02:04:59.439 asylum officer a cerlum officer really sometimes tax two, three, 2139 02:04:59.600 --> 02:05:00.439 four hours. 2140 02:05:00.800 --> 02:05:02.760 There's one I went towards six hours. 2141 02:05:03.520 --> 02:05:10.119 And if you if they asylum officer office, the director 2142 02:05:10.199 --> 02:05:14.399 does not grant your asylum, you are not denied. You 2143 02:05:14.520 --> 02:05:19.359 are referred to an immigration judge. So the other type 2144 02:05:19.399 --> 02:05:21.640 of asylum is that you know those people were talking 2145 02:05:21.680 --> 02:05:25.680 about who come through the border like they you know, 2146 02:05:25.800 --> 02:05:29.640 they just come in out of the border, and it's 2147 02:05:29.680 --> 02:05:33.079 called defensive asylum because you are putting removal proceedings and 2148 02:05:33.159 --> 02:05:35.520 then they say, okay, why are you crossing the border 2149 02:05:35.560 --> 02:05:39.560 without inspection And then you take to the office to 2150 02:05:39.840 --> 02:05:42.720 the sippy officer that you are seeking asylum because you 2151 02:05:43.039 --> 02:05:47.119 fear persecution, are fleeing persecution in your country. You are 2152 02:05:47.159 --> 02:05:50.600 placed in removal proceedings and then you fire. Asylum is 2153 02:05:50.680 --> 02:05:57.119 a defensive defense against your deportation. Those go to quote 2154 02:05:57.319 --> 02:05:58.279 immigration judge. 2155 02:05:58.840 --> 02:05:59.479 And so. 2156 02:06:01.520 --> 02:06:06.039 I haven't heard any assylum cases being referred to court 2157 02:06:06.159 --> 02:06:09.840 without an interview. You have, you know so far, but 2158 02:06:10.319 --> 02:06:17.039 right now there is one. There's a new there's a 2159 02:06:17.119 --> 02:06:21.920 new rule now which allows judges don't. Once you fire 2160 02:06:22.000 --> 02:06:25.640 a case with a judge and you don't provide all 2161 02:06:25.720 --> 02:06:28.880 the information on your phone, there's a form that you 2162 02:06:29.000 --> 02:06:32.760 have to figure out I fably nine and you do 2163 02:06:33.079 --> 02:06:38.359 not disclose enough information, the judge now has the discretion 2164 02:06:38.640 --> 02:06:44.159 of fraetermitting like basically saying that you abandoned your case 2165 02:06:44.199 --> 02:06:45.840 because you do not provide any information. 2166 02:06:46.479 --> 02:06:47.800 Right, So most people when. 2167 02:06:47.640 --> 02:06:50.760 They're applying for asylum, they just put yes, and then 2168 02:06:51.039 --> 02:06:54.079 where they ask for explanation they leave that blank. 2169 02:06:54.640 --> 02:06:56.760 So if you do that, now the. 2170 02:06:56.880 --> 02:07:01.119 Judge can just say, okay, your case is incomplete abandoned deny. 2171 02:07:02.039 --> 02:07:02.239 Yeah. 2172 02:07:02.560 --> 02:07:05.640 So but aside of office, I haven't seen that happened. 2173 02:07:06.319 --> 02:07:10.199 They don't have that instructure. So the judges immigration judges 2174 02:07:10.439 --> 02:07:14.640 are under the Department of Justice. Uh, you know, uh, 2175 02:07:15.399 --> 02:07:19.960 and the Attorney General can say okay. According to this 2176 02:07:20.279 --> 02:07:26.680 new legal precedent, now judges have they can just pretermit 2177 02:07:27.279 --> 02:07:29.439 some cases without hearing them. 2178 02:07:29.319 --> 02:07:32.199 Because they are incomplete. However, it has not. 2179 02:07:33.239 --> 02:07:37.119 Been set by the DHS the development of Homeland Security 2180 02:07:37.800 --> 02:07:42.800 that deals with their asylum affirmative assignum cases. 2181 02:07:43.079 --> 02:07:44.119 I haven't seen that happen. 2182 02:07:45.079 --> 02:07:49.399 But to be safe, when you complete your assigum application, 2183 02:07:49.680 --> 02:07:52.920 you know, of course you should seek the attorney's advice. 2184 02:07:53.640 --> 02:07:55.640 But if if you don't, don't do that, you need 2185 02:07:55.680 --> 02:07:58.680 to make sure you complete the form or is it. 2186 02:08:01.119 --> 02:08:04.960 Ten pages all the questions you asked, also all the 2187 02:08:05.039 --> 02:08:06.159 questions asked in the. 2188 02:08:06.239 --> 02:08:10.239 Form, so that it's not abandoned. THEMS abandoned. 2189 02:08:13.159 --> 02:08:16.920 That's very interesting. I didn't know about that. That's an 2190 02:08:17.000 --> 02:08:17.720 inside base. 2191 02:08:18.760 --> 02:08:21.479 It's a new it's a new casebi able of the 2192 02:08:21.560 --> 02:08:26.600 Vision appeals. It's a matter of car. It was ruled 2193 02:08:26.720 --> 02:08:29.760 in May this year, and now the judges. 2194 02:08:29.439 --> 02:08:31.479 Are using it to just say, ok you cases in 2195 02:08:31.520 --> 02:08:34.119 complete are and then you have to appear. 2196 02:08:34.239 --> 02:08:36.439 So I mean if you have to just work with 2197 02:08:36.520 --> 02:08:38.399 a lawyer, that's what I hear. Now you just can't 2198 02:08:38.439 --> 02:08:40.319 sit down and do it at home on your table 2199 02:08:40.520 --> 02:08:43.000 on a Sunday. Basically, go see to the professional and 2200 02:08:43.079 --> 02:08:45.760 say I want to file this on Google court. Am 2201 02:08:45.800 --> 02:08:47.960 I doing the right way? Don't leave any chances, don't 2202 02:08:48.039 --> 02:08:51.439 leave any strings that can be pulled. That's really what 2203 02:08:51.560 --> 02:08:51.960 I'm doing. 2204 02:08:52.520 --> 02:08:56.159 So those who have cases before a judge, you know, 2205 02:08:56.439 --> 02:09:00.079 the judge advises you to go seek legal cas so, 2206 02:09:00.239 --> 02:09:03.199 so they give you a chance. They continue, they say, okay, 2207 02:09:03.199 --> 02:09:05.039 we're going to give you another date so you can 2208 02:09:05.279 --> 02:09:08.680 come back with an attorney. Because when you are before 2209 02:09:08.720 --> 02:09:12.560 an immigration judge, you are against an attorney because the 2210 02:09:12.600 --> 02:09:15.800 government saying the attorney, the DCHSE attorney is an attorney. 2211 02:09:15.960 --> 02:09:19.840 So if you are not represented by an attorney, you 2212 02:09:21.680 --> 02:09:23.640 you don't have any senses. They give you a chance 2213 02:09:23.680 --> 02:09:26.319 to go find a judge. The judge has to inform 2214 02:09:26.399 --> 02:09:29.279 you that you have the right for an attorney. Even 2215 02:09:29.319 --> 02:09:31.720 if they don't pay one for you, you have to 2216 02:09:31.840 --> 02:09:32.319 find one. 2217 02:09:32.880 --> 02:09:34.960 They give you a list of nonprofit. 2218 02:09:34.640 --> 02:09:38.000 Organizations or right now they don't really have that much 2219 02:09:38.079 --> 02:09:40.000 funding because they have the funding. 2220 02:09:40.479 --> 02:09:42.279 So you really have to be on your own to 2221 02:09:42.319 --> 02:09:45.760 be able to afford an attorney to represent you. 2222 02:09:48.199 --> 02:09:50.800 Important information there, guys, and I think it's a good 2223 02:09:50.880 --> 02:09:53.720 place to close. And then that comments there. I didn't 2224 02:09:53.720 --> 02:09:57.479 see that when you talk. That's didn't comment there, right, No, 2225 02:09:57.640 --> 02:10:05.800 they so okay, yeah, it's so. I have a lot 2226 02:10:05.880 --> 02:10:09.520 of them are very very shy today. Usually they're asking questions, 2227 02:10:10.079 --> 02:10:14.880 but they're trying to be very very careful. All right, folks, 2228 02:10:15.000 --> 02:10:17.600 thank you so someone, thank you, Claudine. I appreciate you coming. 2229 02:10:17.680 --> 02:10:19.960 Like I said, once again, thank you. Say hi to 2230 02:10:20.039 --> 02:10:23.159 the folks in Rwanda. There were good friends. One of 2231 02:10:23.239 --> 02:10:27.600 these days will come and experience the beauty. I haven't. 2232 02:10:27.720 --> 02:10:29.720 I read so that when God was going to sleep, 2233 02:10:29.760 --> 02:10:31.760 he went to Rwanda. That was such in Nigeria, but 2234 02:10:31.840 --> 02:10:33.920 Rwanda stolid. But yeah, I should go I should go 2235 02:10:34.159 --> 02:10:37.520 and and see see for myself. Yeah, I will. I 2236 02:10:37.560 --> 02:10:39.560 will give it. I will give it a spin. This 2237 02:10:39.800 --> 02:10:41.239 when I come, I'll give the spin. 2238 02:10:41.720 --> 02:10:42.640 When I go to Lagos. 2239 02:10:43.199 --> 02:10:45.640 You want to go to Legers leg Us is le 2240 02:10:45.800 --> 02:10:46.640 Us is New York? 2241 02:10:46.920 --> 02:10:47.119 Yeah? 2242 02:10:47.479 --> 02:10:50.600 Do you like New York? Do you like Utah? 2243 02:10:50.960 --> 02:10:51.000 What? 2244 02:10:51.239 --> 02:10:51.279 What? 2245 02:10:51.479 --> 02:10:52.319 What's this in the US? 2246 02:10:52.359 --> 02:10:52.680 Do you like? 2247 02:10:52.720 --> 02:10:55.720 I'll give you the corresponding version in Nigeria. Do you want? 2248 02:10:56.319 --> 02:10:58.800 You want New York vibe New York? 2249 02:10:58.840 --> 02:10:59.119 Of course? 2250 02:10:59.199 --> 02:11:01.640 Yeah, yeah, you're gonna there. 2251 02:11:01.680 --> 02:11:02.600 But I like New York. 2252 02:11:02.960 --> 02:11:08.399 You want to go to Yeah? Great, great food, great people. 2253 02:11:09.359 --> 02:11:13.840 Nightlife is excellent, excellent, you know. The food is fantastic, 2254 02:11:14.000 --> 02:11:14.159 you know. 2255 02:11:15.159 --> 02:11:20.439 And one of I have something start was in Rwanda 2256 02:11:20.520 --> 02:11:25.359 this weekend or last weekend now signed with are. 2257 02:11:24.920 --> 02:11:28.920 That Starr Star? Yes, just one of our exports that 2258 02:11:29.119 --> 02:11:33.119 we used to make foreign currency. Yeah, it's just wonderful terms. 2259 02:11:33.279 --> 02:11:38.079 I lots of yeah, so yeah, I have lots of 2260 02:11:38.119 --> 02:11:40.720 folks in Rwanda. I have the real estate gather Is. 2261 02:11:40.800 --> 02:11:42.359 They're doing a lot of stuff and rwands. A lot 2262 02:11:42.359 --> 02:11:43.439 of nagurants are there. 2263 02:11:43.399 --> 02:11:43.479 So. 2264 02:11:45.000 --> 02:11:47.840 Yeah, which we should wish. I'll definitely make our time 2265 02:11:47.880 --> 02:11:49.640 and come this time being a Kenya about how to 2266 02:11:49.680 --> 02:11:53.720 hop into Rwanda. All right, clad In, thanks yeah, and 2267 02:11:53.840 --> 02:11:56.039 if I mean Houston, I will also look you up 2268 02:11:56.079 --> 02:12:00.079 as well. And it's down but perfect. We'll do it 2269 02:12:00.119 --> 02:12:04.079 as well. Thank you, guys. Let me let you guys go. Yeah, 2270 02:12:04.079 --> 02:12:06.800 it's gonna be a great weekend, guys. Mondays just tomorrow 2271 02:12:06.840 --> 02:12:08.880 and I love Mondays. Start of a great week for 2272 02:12:09.039 --> 02:12:10.720 us all. So let's go out and make that money 2273 02:12:10.840 --> 02:12:13.319 and stay safe. Guys, see you all next week. Next week, 2274 02:12:13.800 --> 02:12:16.760 I ought to bring an economics professor to talk around 2275 02:12:16.800 --> 02:12:18.960 the economics. But let's see how we go. Seeah, it's 2276 02:12:18.960 --> 02:12:21.520 an open weekend, all right, guys take here. Thank you Claudine, 2277 02:12:21.760 --> 02:12:23.319 Thank you guys for listening. You guys have a good 2278 02:12:23.359 --> 02:12:24.439 day and bye.