WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.399 I've been seeing your name. I've actually we've talked about 2 00:00:02.399 --> 00:00:02.759 this earlier. 3 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:04.599 It's like I feel like I know you, but I 4 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:07.240 don't know you because I've met you through passing and like, hi, 5 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:09.439 you have a familiar face, you have like you know 6 00:00:09.679 --> 00:00:11.759 very like like hey, I know you for a really 7 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:14.080 long time and I see you on you know, front 8 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:15.400 mutual friends page. 9 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:17.879 So I'm like, who is this John Legendary? 10 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:19.519 I have to have him on Private Talk and get 11 00:00:19.559 --> 00:00:21.960 to know your story, get to know you so I. 12 00:00:21.839 --> 00:00:27.559 Can say I formally know you. So please tell Private 13 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:31.039 Talk all about you. Introduce yourself. What how long have 14 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:33.000 you been on I've been performing? 15 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:35.119 Yeah, so I've been in the industry for about two 16 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:36.000 and a half years. 17 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:41.799 Okay, on aerospace engineer about trade and so just by trade. 18 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:43.679 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was doing it. 19 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:47.560 I was in aerospace for seventeen years up until February. 20 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:53.359 Okay from this cell here, So how would I big change? Yeah, 21 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:55.840 I would like sheet porn on like on the level 22 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:59.439 after work or on weekends or take. 23 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:03.240 A did your co workers find out? Did they tell 24 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:03.719 on you? 25 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:08.879 And they said, hey, are you speak to you right now? 26 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:12.519 Mister Sehan? And you said, who meet. 27 00:01:13.760 --> 00:01:20.319 It did not, but maybe it did OnlyFans dot come. Okay, 28 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:23.480 so you got out in yeah yeah, okay, do you 29 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:24.239 know who did it? 30 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:27.200 You know supervisor that came on board. 31 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:28.519 He was there. 32 00:01:28.599 --> 00:01:31.920 It was as a woman, Yeah, the worst, the worst. 33 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:37.920 And I worked remote, so. 34 00:01:35.760 --> 00:01:38.560 She would say like on the zoom like look familiar 35 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:42.640 or like I am and I haven't mentioned before, like no, 36 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:43.400 you know. 37 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:48.040 But then I was in like that like for Lenna's 38 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:51.519 reality show that they're going on, and there was a lot. 39 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:55.040 Of clips and pictures that went. 40 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:56.159 So that's what did it? 41 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:56.719 You know? 42 00:01:56.879 --> 00:01:59.159 I got but that just happened recently. 43 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:04.480 And November December time, and then I had like government. 44 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:08.039 I had people like attagging my government name on Facebook. 45 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:11.960 Everything like I did was like yo, people at the 46 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:14.639 church tell me you porny dis mad? 47 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:16.479 I'm like, I'm sorry. 48 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:20.400 Was he mad or was he just like sonning you? 49 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:23.840 He was like yeah, that was like yeah, like you 50 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:24.400 need to like. 51 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:27.960 Just stop, you know. But you're so yeah, he knows 52 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:32.599 how to do part okay, but he wants to. 53 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:36.840 Hear more positive story, you know, okay, And I'm like, yeah, 54 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:38.319 I've done all the positive things. 55 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:41.800 I have three degrees Okay, so I did everything he 56 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:42.680 wanted me to do. 57 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:46.960 Okay, so this one's for you, Yeah, exactly. So how 58 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:49.000 did you stumble upon this thing? 59 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:49.680 You know you had? 60 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:52.240 This is a prestigious job that you let God let 61 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:54.680 go of. Unfortunately it seemed like that you know that 62 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:56.919 it's time, but you also were searching for other things, 63 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:59.879 and only fans happened to be that only thing or 64 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:02.439 the other thing. So how did it kind of like, 65 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:06.080 were you always like a sexual freak behind closed doors? 66 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:08.280 Did you have a girlfriend that was like, hey, baby, 67 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:10.759 come on, let's do this together. Like how did you 68 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:14.000 find your way to where like, in a sense, TABOOLEI 69 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:15.639 got in trouble in this corporate world. 70 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:16.400 Yeah. 71 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:24.240 So I was always very sex positive heavy. I mean, 72 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:27.199 and I was in a frat in college and I 73 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:30.960 would throw house parties and walk around naked with like 74 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:33.879 my gold boots all ain't chasing the girls and stuff 75 00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:34.120 like that. 76 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:36.479 It was just it was a wild time. 77 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:40.280 You're having orgies in your everybody's fucking This is why 78 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:42.080 you said earlier you missed college. 79 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:45.800 To miss Texas. 80 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:48.759 That's exactly why I said that. Yeah, college was foy, 81 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:50.639 but so we thought. 82 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:52.840 About those gold boots. You know we're a scene. 83 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:55.360 I should do it for your only fancy and then 84 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:58.719 sell them. Yeah, I might need to do that croceeeds 85 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:04.680 rest you could have. All right, so go out. 86 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:09.199 So I gotten a hot wife lifestyle as a ball? 87 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:11.639 What does that mean? Educate? 88 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:15.599 It's very similar to like the swing lifestyle. Okay, what's 89 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:20.680 where swinging is a couple sharing? How wifing is wife sharing? 90 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:25.839 So husbands would enjoy watching me fuck their wives? 91 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:27.879 How do you sign up for a program like this? 92 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:30.959 I mean there's like is this is this like a 93 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:32.600 Pikes List thing or like. 94 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:34.160 It used to be Craig outs. 95 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:36.480 Yeah, So did you like like. 96 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:40.480 Search an ad for this kind of work or you 97 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:41.879 just fell into because. 98 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:44.000 I fell into as because it's always. 99 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:45.519 A falling into a kind of situation. 100 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:46.720 Actually I fell into it. 101 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:49.360 I was in grad school and I was hanging out 102 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:51.480 with one of my my buddies at the law school. 103 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:54.920 And can you pause real quick? How long ago time frame? 104 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:57.480 Like, because you seem fairly young, Like what is the 105 00:04:57.519 --> 00:04:59.560 time frame of you being in college to where this 106 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:04.560 has happened to this lifestyle? Wow, those guys gave you 107 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:07.199 a real complishment. Okay, with the old heads right here? 108 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:08.480 What you get called young? 109 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:11.519 So I was I graduated college on like twenty two, 110 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:12.399 twenty three. 111 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:14.639 And okay seven a freak fro alng time. 112 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:16.920 Yeah it was like. 113 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:18.759 Five years ago. That's why I want a time frame. 114 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:21.079 Yeah this is yeah, this has been a minute. 115 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:23.800 Are freaking it's. 116 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:26.240 Not private talk? You didn't want to follow and subscribe 117 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:27.240 to his ship later. 118 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:31.120 And so me and my buddy hanging out and he 119 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:32.480 has a young lady come over. 120 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:34.800 I'm like, okay, well I'm gonna leave, let you do 121 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:37.920 your thing, and he says, hold on, wait a minute. 122 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:42.000 He calls this woman's husband. Oh okay. 123 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:45.279 If a man's like hey, no, you're like, yeah, for sure, 124 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:49.319 just make sure they'll take pictures, videos, And. 125 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:50.160 So we focus. 126 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:54.319 Yeah we his wife, she taken it, We taking pictures, 127 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:57.839 We send it to him. He loved it, and she leaves. 128 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:00.680 Going through your mind while you're mean this, like do 129 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.000 you believe and that he's really gonna love it? Do 130 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:05.319 you just don't care? Because you're young? Dem and phullip 131 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:07.839 come yourself. So you're just smashing someone's wife. So that's 132 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:12.120 hot in itself, like like I love that thrill, and 133 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:14.879 you were doing it for free because you just wanted 134 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:23.839 to p ship, you know, like you know, no beers 135 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:27.319 like kind of beers. 136 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:30.680 Probably wise, not in Saint Louis. 137 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:36.639 Wise, but uh yeah, I mean when you left, I 138 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:38.680 was like, yo, what the fun we just do? 139 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:40.639 And then that's why he broke it. 140 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:42.759 Down as far so he was a party, a part 141 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:42.959 of it. 142 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:45.879 Yeah yeah, yeah, he was already doing it. 143 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:48.920 So they paid him extra because he brought his jobs free. 144 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:51.079 Like this, This is a lifestyle. 145 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:55.480 If you're really enough lifestyle, you're not doing it for money. 146 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:57.079 Yeah, you're doing it because you're the kink. 147 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:00.319 Yeah, okay, exactly, Okay, And I didn't even know that 148 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:02.639 you can get paid for it until I got into ploor. 149 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:06.399 Oh see, this is where you messed up. Yeah, you're 150 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:08.879 just giving dick away for free, free dick. 151 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:16.959 But okay, But I also appreciate real true perverts, oh yeah, 152 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:20.600 and sexual connoisseurs like yourself. Is because that's what I 153 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:24.279 feel like makes the industry consistently go round, is because 154 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:26.160 there are people who'd obviously the money is good, but 155 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:28.480 it's money and sexual transactions or whatever. It gets to 156 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:30.199 a certain point that you start seeing both, so you 157 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:33.759 understand the means and business of it all, but the 158 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:35.720 underlying and what belongs is like. 159 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:38.360 You're a freak and freaksert. 160 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:42.319 Of what makes sex fun and exciting and like passionate. 161 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:44.279 And I'm sure that's why you've been seeing you all 162 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:46.639 over my explore page with all these different girls, and 163 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:49.920 like what you're doing this content stuff is because that matters. 164 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:51.720 And I feel like if it's just one. 165 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:54.360 Way transactional, it's it computes where it's like you don't 166 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:56.279 really like sex and you can see it, you know 167 00:07:56.319 --> 00:07:58.040 what I mean, where it's like, so I think that 168 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:00.360 that as well. People like, oh, you just do the money. 169 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:03.879 It's like no, but yes, but no. The beginning was 170 00:08:04.120 --> 00:08:06.480 I got paid even when I first started, was way 171 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:09.000 less rates than anybody ever gets paid now. 172 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:09.959 But you don't really know. 173 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:11.800 But I was doing it because I'd love to do it, 174 00:08:12.199 --> 00:08:13.480 you know what I mean. And then when you realize 175 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:16.040 what you can elevate in just like any business, what 176 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:18.680 you're worth to what that means, and you start figuring. 177 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:21.079 Things out later on. But it was based and derived 178 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:23.600 from we were all freaks, you know. 179 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:26.439 I never knew about these little sites that exist with 180 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:28.879 like the bull end or whatever, which is very interesting 181 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:29.879 about how. 182 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:32.200 That goes sites. 183 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:35.000 So are you based off like how many after that, 184 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:36.879 like you know, because you said that was like twenty 185 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:40.480 years ago, did you continue going on other sites like 186 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:43.480 this in like fucking other people's wives or did you 187 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:45.919 start getting regular customers where they're just like, hey, come 188 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:46.720 fuck my wife. 189 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:50.360 Oh yeah, So after that experience, I think that experience 190 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:55.000 was maybe about fifteen years ago, and then there was 191 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:57.679 some time that went by and maybe. 192 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:03.080 I want to say about eight years six eight years ago, 193 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:09.120 maybe like six, yes, six eight, I'll just started getting 194 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:09.480 a lot. 195 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:11.440 No, this is what I did. I went to Temptation. 196 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:13.440 I take one of my buddies. 197 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:13.799 And just Jamaica. 198 00:09:14.039 --> 00:09:15.600 You know, it's can cool. 199 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:17.799 Okay, I think there's one in Jamaica. I think I 200 00:09:17.799 --> 00:09:19.960 did it for Out of the Game. Oh Hito, yeah, yeah. 201 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:21.639 Right, So I went to Temptations. 202 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:24.039 I took my Bundy there for his bachelor party and 203 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:26.639 because I heard this is like a real freak he plays, 204 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:28.120 and I went there. 205 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:30.440 But you can't go there as singles, right, don't you 206 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:31.120 have to be like. 207 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:33.120 Even what are Temptations as a single? 208 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:33.639 Okay? 209 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:37.519 I thought it was like a couple of or likes whatever. 210 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:40.639 I have to go with someone else like you saw. 211 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:43.039 No, guys know, that's where I take notes because I 212 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:45.159 know the private talk that Schaller freaks out there too, 213 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:46.000 and we love that. 214 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:47.000 So we're gonna educate. 215 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:48.200 Yeah. Yeah. 216 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:50.840 So so we went and I'm like, yo, it's something 217 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:53.960 going on. I would see these these people with like 218 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:56.320 the pineapple pasties. 219 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:59.360 And and I'm like, what the what is those pineapples? 220 00:09:59.639 --> 00:09:59.840 You know? 221 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:01.960 And I'm like, yo, and I felt something. I'm like, 222 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:02.919 something's going on here. 223 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:05.679 So you didn't know that there were fucking things, fucking 224 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:06.240 was going on. 225 00:10:06.279 --> 00:10:07.559 I didn't know what was going on. 226 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:08.600 You just wanted to have a good time. 227 00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:12.200 Yeah, I mean I knew you could following some fun, 228 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:14.120 you know, But I didn't know that it was like 229 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:16.639 swingers there. I didn't even really know what that mess 230 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:19.120 was for real, for real. And then I went back 231 00:10:19.120 --> 00:10:22.279 home and I started researching. I realized that those people 232 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:25.039 with all the pineapples, those were swingers, okay. 233 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:27.120 And then so you didn't even know at the time 234 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:29.799 you had asked No, I would be asking. 235 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:31.440 Like, hey, what's that? Can I have a pineapple? 236 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:31.759 Like? 237 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:33.320 What can I know? 238 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:36.799 Because there was coming to their tits, you know what 239 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:37.240 I'm saying. 240 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:40.919 So I didn't know, and so I went back and 241 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:43.840 dim my research found out that this is the swinger lifestyle. 242 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:48.159 And then I started getting swing sites and I learned that, 243 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:51.559 you know, there's women couples that wanted to bring the 244 00:10:51.639 --> 00:10:54.159 man into the bedroom and that that's that's how I 245 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:57.519 started learning more about the hot wife lifestyle and start 246 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:01.480 having like play dates with like unicorns as well as couples. 247 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:03.159 What is this wife? I know? 248 00:11:04.039 --> 00:11:08.320 Learning so much it's crazy. 249 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:10.879 Yeah, So like unicorn that's essentially. 250 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:13.720 Like a woman who enjoys the company of a cup. 251 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:15.879 You know, so you have. 252 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:17.960 One, So me, as a single woman, I'm like, I'm 253 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:20.840 a unicorn and I want to like explore a couple together. 254 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:21.679 It's like them together. 255 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:24.759 Yes, yes, yes, so that's what a unicorn is. 256 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:28.519 And then what are the other code names? 257 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:31.320 Yeah? So you got yeah, you got like like a cup. 258 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:32.200 You know what coup is. 259 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:36.519 That's watching you're well or your partner getting fucked. 260 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:42.240 So within hot wifing, you have two different dynamics. Okay, 261 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:48.279 you have cut coating and you have stagging dixen Okay, now, CUK. 262 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:52.639 The difference between cut coating and stagging vixen couples are 263 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:57.799 that the sexual power dynamics the decision making who holds that. 264 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.200 For instance, like the cut coating, the wife holds that 265 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:05.679 decision making. If she sees me like, Hubby, John, I 266 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:09.559 want to fuck him, and he's like, okay, they like. 267 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:12.480 Because he's more of the simp in the situation. Yeah, 268 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:14.879 But the couple in the vixen, the guys. 269 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:16.240 Said they share it. 270 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:19.240 So if the wife's on this side, the stagger vixen, 271 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:21.639 if the wife sees me like, hey, I want to 272 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:24.840 fuck John, he's like, okay, cool, now let's word let's 273 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:27.720 set it up. Or he could be like no, let's 274 00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:31.279 pass on him. And so that's the difference. One is 275 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:35.639 share and one is the wife holds that decision. 276 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:37.879 Now, I like the wife decision making. 277 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:40.799 Yeah. Like a lot of people think cuck holding is 278 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:45.279 just watching. That's that's what horn does. 279 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:49.720 Okay, A real cut holding, like porn cut holding is 280 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:52.399 not real, you know, it's just showing like a very 281 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:54.840 small box of it. 282 00:12:55.039 --> 00:12:57.879 So you're saying the real form of cut holding, what 283 00:12:57.960 --> 00:13:01.360 it really is, is the woman having power and over 284 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:04.440 her making the decision making in her partner, watching and 285 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:05.600 he has no say. 286 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:07.039 Well, it's it's so. 287 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:09.519 Much or are you saying the division of both where 288 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:13.360 it is that and also the vixen and the stag 289 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:17.759 situation as well, because you're still in turn switching partners 290 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:20.639 within the role of equal communication. 291 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:24.200 The only difference is the wife gets to make the 292 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:28.480 decision on the cut holding couple and the stagg and vixen. 293 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:29.120 It's mutual. 294 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:30.159 It's mutual they share it. 295 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:35.039 But and you have certain acts like chastity, humiliation. 296 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:40.039 So what is your favorite role to play? 297 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:43.200 My favorite role is the bull, but I enjoy cut 298 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:47.039 holding couples better because there's so it's so many like 299 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:48.080 psychological layers. 300 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:51.039 You get to pull back and it's a build up. 301 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:53.279 And what are your other degrees in? 302 00:13:54.279 --> 00:14:01.559 Yeah, industrialieer Business administration NBA and massive information management. 303 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:05.440 So nothing to do with like social behavioral things and 304 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:08.480 like whatever whatever, because that's where my things was more 305 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:12.320 like sociology and like more like the mental game of 306 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:14.919 how people think in TICK. Is why the layering of 307 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:17.000 like what you're saying is why I was fascinated in 308 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:20.159 those fields was because I've always been intrigued by those 309 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:22.840 things and for me to see in a healthy way 310 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:27.759 where it's like not only like spoken about, but appreciated 311 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:31.039 on both sides and it's being fulfilled. Is really unique 312 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:35.720 to see how mine's tick when you're being completely fulfilled, 313 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:38.320 because it's a lot of people, I think struggle with 314 00:14:38.480 --> 00:14:42.000 finding true fulfillment because they're trying to appease a partner 315 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:45.639 when it's not really their own interests. They're doing it 316 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:48.000 to make someone feel better and not because they really 317 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:49.759 have desire to do it, And I think that that's 318 00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:53.200 where things get gray area. But I think that that's 319 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:56.639 kind of interesting in a whole the dimension of a 320 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:00.320 sexual world in the adult industry. I I think it's 321 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:02.720 kind of cool that adult industry, but adult life like 322 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:05.639 lifestyle industry, is there so many different avenues than the 323 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:08.679 other just to porn. So it's unique to see someone 324 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:12.279 like yourself dabble in those things twenty plus years ago 325 00:15:12.399 --> 00:15:15.039 and then now only having two and a half years 326 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:17.320 now being in the industry kind of seeing that, like, 327 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:21.399 what was that a difficult role to step into because 328 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:24.360 you've already been highly sexual and though that you can 329 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:27.039 be a pleaser and you've stepped into the bull roll. 330 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:30.279 But it's like, is it different because it's not really 331 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:31.480 cat and mouse play. 332 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:35.440 It's more like individual play in a sense. 333 00:15:36.279 --> 00:15:39.919 I think one thing good thing about like that how 334 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:42.759 life lifestyle was it allowed me to be comfortable in 335 00:15:42.759 --> 00:15:46.000 front of the camera because oftentimes the husband would fill 336 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:48.120 me fucking their wives. Okay, So like, well, if I 337 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:51.799 can do that, I should be able to do another 338 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:54.480 quest you know, at least are like middle aged you know, 339 00:15:54.559 --> 00:16:00.159 women and something a lot more mature. And so I 340 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:02.399 was like I could. I think it'll be easy to 341 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:04.320 fuck hot core stars. 342 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:08.080 You know, but you're not always fucking hot porn stars. 343 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:11.960 Sometimes it's it's a plethord. But I've heard of sometimes 344 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:13.960 in two in the hot wife world is not every 345 00:16:13.960 --> 00:16:15.120 wife is hot, I'm. 346 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:16.679 Sure, and there's different degrees. 347 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:17.960 And I don't know, I mean, I mean, I'm not 348 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:20.679 being you know, massogyny or feminist myself, but it's like 349 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:23.679 there's just certain people that maybe sexually you're a great 350 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:26.399 but like physically or not, you know. And the same 351 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:29.000 thing is like I think that what's interesting for me 352 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:33.240 on the sexual aspect because it's for a female performer 353 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:37.320 and myself and was I wasn't always sexually attracted to people, 354 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:39.799 but I could always find one good thing about someone 355 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:44.039 that I could connect with that I knew that I 356 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:46.840 had already made the decision and my intention was I 357 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:48.440 was going to fuck that person because we were doing 358 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:51.240 a scene, so therefore I didn't have walls of what 359 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:52.759 we knew what we were doing, you know, like the 360 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:55.759 animalistic form of what that was. But then it was like, 361 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:57.440 how am I going to make this enjoyable for me 362 00:16:57.519 --> 00:16:59.159 as well? Because for me is I don't want to 363 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:02.879 do something in fieldber botic. I want to feel feeling 364 00:17:02.919 --> 00:17:05.640 like I'm a feeling, empathetic person. So that's why it 365 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:07.920 was it would always be the play on those things 366 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:10.400 of like figuring those things with yourself. Like why I 367 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:13.359 ask that question is because a lot of what that 368 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:17.599 play is to me seems psychologically a turn on then 369 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:21.119 more of like a physical stimulation turn on. So yes, 370 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:24.160 is the hot porn star is anybody wants to fuck 371 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:27.039 hot porn stars. But it's like when it's the nitty 372 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:29.440 gritty where it's like you really gotta like know you 373 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:31.920 light the fuck and you're gonna get your job done 374 00:17:31.960 --> 00:17:35.039 because you're in a location, you're working for a company. 375 00:17:35.319 --> 00:17:37.240 They're looking at you to see if you can get 376 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:39.519 the job done. Like you said, like the lights are hot, 377 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:43.960 the fucking thing whatever, no pun intended, you shit staying lard. 378 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:47.039 But I've also been on the other reverse side of 379 00:17:47.079 --> 00:17:51.920 when people can't deliver. Yeah, people can't come, people can't whatever, 380 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:55.480 and it's like, it's not a me thing, it's you thing. 381 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:58.079 And some people have bad days and some people not. 382 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:00.920 So when the again back to the it's not always 383 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:04.519 like the hottest person. Are those those days one thousand 384 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:06.720 and those are the days that you don't come too 385 00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:15.680 quick because the trouble exactly did you ever in your 386 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:19.039 play of hot wife lifestyle have a wife fall in 387 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:21.599 love or like maybe cross boundaries where it got kind 388 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:24.039 of like blurred where a husband was. 389 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:26.480 Like, hey, look, this was all play play. 390 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:31.720 But I've been in situations where the wife wanted and 391 00:18:31.759 --> 00:18:35.960 this is very early in my my journey. The wife 392 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:39.599 went to play with me, and she presented my profile 393 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:42.880 on the on the site to her husband and he 394 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:48.720 did have that much like urgency to play desire, and 395 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:50.920 she was like, he probably just doesn't want me to 396 00:18:50.960 --> 00:18:51.480 play with you. 397 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:55.119 Okay, she matters her in her own hands. 398 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:58.440 So you played on the sidelines and she you know, like. 399 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:03.000 Is it okay, I come through and we don't tell nobody. 400 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:07.359 Yeah, And I'm like cool, I mean she was fine, 401 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:08.400