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<v Speaker 1>It's nice eyes. I'm going easy Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, Madison. Hope all of you had

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<v Speaker 2>a great weekend and are ready for another week of

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<v Speaker 2>night side, starting off tonight on Monday Night with Rob

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<v Speaker 2>Brooks back at the control room. Rob still recovering a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit from his under the weather period last week,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's getting better, that's for sure. Sound died great

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<v Speaker 2>when I talked to him tonight, and I hope all

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<v Speaker 2>of you are doing as well as we hit. We're

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit past the halfway point in June, believe

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<v Speaker 2>it or not. It's unbelievable actually that we are halfway

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<v Speaker 2>more than halfway through June, as in one of my

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<v Speaker 2>texters mentioned to me today, And we really haven't had

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<v Speaker 2>any great weather. I mean it's been rather rainy or hot.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, we'll talk about that. We have a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of things to talk about. We will be talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the trade of I don't know if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>call it a trade or the salary dump of we

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<v Speaker 2>hardly knew ye. I'm gonna be talking with Dan Watkins

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<v Speaker 2>at eight forty five of the WBZ Newsroom. Dan is

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<v Speaker 2>a big sports guy in a big radio news guy

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<v Speaker 2>as well, and we will then spend the nine o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>hour talking about this swap, if you want to call

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<v Speaker 2>it that. But first we're going to talk with Mark Coscenza.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark is a senior vice president at Global Partners. Global

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<v Speaker 2>Partners is urging the Massachusetts Department of Transportation Voard of

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<v Speaker 2>Directors to reconsider a recent recommendation to award the redevelopment

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<v Speaker 2>of some eight eighteen highway service plausas to a privately

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<v Speaker 2>equity backed foreign owned corporation. That's a mouthfill for anyone. Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>You're a senior VP at Global Partners. I can understand

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<v Speaker 2>why you're disappointed.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Dan Oia, Yeah, I'm happy to have you on.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can understand you're a local, your big, strong,

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<v Speaker 2>local company and apparently the company that won this is

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<v Speaker 2>a company that comes to us via Ireland.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's correct. You know, when you think about Global,

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<v Speaker 3>we're a fourth generation, family owned company right here in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 3>We've been here for over ninety years, for nearly a century,

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<v Speaker 3>we've been providing fuel and energy to the commonwealth reliably

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<v Speaker 3>through every storm and season. Right We're we're more than that.

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<v Speaker 3>We run our all town Fresh Concepts as well as

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<v Speaker 3>our honey farms market convenience stores. And it's really about fresh, local,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're building around the guests and the experience. We're

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<v Speaker 3>not just based there. We built here, Our families are here.

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<v Speaker 3>This is our state. You're all our neighbors and our future.

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<v Speaker 2>So then what can be go I'm wrong? What could

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<v Speaker 2>have gone on here? I assume that everybody had a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to apply what they call it RFP, a request

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<v Speaker 2>for proposal. Why were you guys not at the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the class.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's that's a that's an interesting question. We're we're

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<v Speaker 3>a little puzzled ourselves. The team here worked really hard

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<v Speaker 3>with a lot of local companies to prepare and submit

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<v Speaker 3>our bid, and as we as we think about it

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<v Speaker 3>and comparing our offer to what we read in the

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<v Speaker 3>Globe late last week, our offer was fifty percent higher

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<v Speaker 3>from revenue to the state. And when you think about

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<v Speaker 3>that over the over the thirty five year period of

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<v Speaker 3>the contract, that's over five hundred million dollars of lost

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<v Speaker 3>revenue to the State of Massachusetts. And as a practical matter,

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<v Speaker 3>that money could go to roads, bridges, and tunnels and

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<v Speaker 3>to increase the infrastructure and rebuild the infrastructure of Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>How many of these? There's eighteen of these locations? I think?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it fourteen a run the turnpike and four off

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<v Speaker 2>the turnpike on one eight? Is that the numbers? Is that

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<v Speaker 2>of the breakdown?

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot on the mass Pike, two on one

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eight, two on route twenty four and then went

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<v Speaker 3>up in Beverly and went down and don and Barnstable.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So this this was this was a bid all

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<v Speaker 2>in it was winner take all.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, Yes, okay?

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<v Speaker 2>And how much experience have you guys had, I know

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<v Speaker 2>that's a big Massachusetts company. How much experience have you

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<v Speaker 2>had running plazas like the ones that you were bidding on?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, I'll take a step back for one second if

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<v Speaker 3>I may. Since two thousand and nine, we were part

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<v Speaker 3>of and continue to run the Connecticut Turnpike and Mayor

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<v Speaker 3>Parkway locations from a fueling and convenience store perspective, but

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<v Speaker 3>focusing in on the Commonwealth. We stepped in uh later

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<v Speaker 3>in the contract due to some of the other tenants

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<v Speaker 3>leaving and stepping in and working with the with the Commonwealth.

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<v Speaker 3>We operate the convenience on the mass Pike and we

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<v Speaker 3>are the master tenant to the state on the Route

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four Barnstable and Beverly locations, and we stepped into

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<v Speaker 3>those locations late in the contract, which I believe was

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<v Speaker 3>signed back into the year two thousand, the original contract.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you have experience in Connecticut, which is another

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<v Speaker 2>New England state. No problems. I assume in Connecticut that

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<v Speaker 2>every every place is going to get some criticism it.

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<v Speaker 2>No substantive problems you dealt with down there, No substantive

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<v Speaker 2>problems you've dealt with here, Nothing in the skeleton in

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<v Speaker 2>the closet or anything. As I'm referring to. I'm referring

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<v Speaker 2>to John Cesto's piece in the Globe from last week.

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<v Speaker 2>So you you come to this thing with some experience

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<v Speaker 2>in state and out of state. You have clean hands.

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<v Speaker 2>You actually may have bailed them out if you stepped

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<v Speaker 2>in for other groups that were not fulfilling their commitments previously.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna your contract would generate an extra you tell me,

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred million dollars for the coffers of the common Wealth.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like we're fleshed with money. Why would we.

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<v Speaker 2>It's there's something not mist there's something missing here and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming you can put your finger on it. But

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<v Speaker 2>someone from the Commonwealth I think has to step up

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<v Speaker 2>and explain why they would go across the Atlantic to

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<v Speaker 2>a company uh and give them the entire deal here

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<v Speaker 2>at a higher price than a great local company or

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<v Speaker 2>am I missing something? If I'm missing something, please tell me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And that was that was an excellent recap. We're

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<v Speaker 3>extremely puzzled and we'd like to get to the bottom

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<v Speaker 3>of it, especially as we reconciled our proposal to the

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<v Speaker 3>Global article late last week, being very taken back not

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<v Speaker 3>being the success full uh recommended bidder by the committee

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<v Speaker 3>and and understanding and knowing that our that our rent

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<v Speaker 3>structure over the term of the contract was worth another

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<v Speaker 3>five hundred million dollars to the Commonwealth.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm going to ask you the tough question now

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<v Speaker 2>that that you're probably not ready for. But but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to ask it, and I hope you give me

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<v Speaker 2>an answer. Uh. Are you at this point sitting down

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<v Speaker 2>with attorneys and saying, hey, we might get we may

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<v Speaker 2>have been jobbed here. What can we do about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Look, we're we're we've digested the feedback we got late

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<v Speaker 3>last week, and we're exploring all of our options. But

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<v Speaker 3>we're we're looking first and foremost for the for the

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<v Speaker 3>for the masks, doot to explain and reconcile for us

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<v Speaker 3>the differences from the article that was disclosed to our

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<v Speaker 3>to our offer and our bid during the process.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're not naive, and I'm not naive. I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 2>you you're going to have attorneys involved.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, Like what like, I know, tell me what you

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<v Speaker 3>tell me?

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<v Speaker 2>All options. I know what all options means. Okay, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing like you know. I want you to be

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<v Speaker 2>straight with me, to be really honest with you. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>being straight with you. I think you would be fools

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<v Speaker 2>if you didn't have lawyers looking at this, because there

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<v Speaker 2>there's too many questions here.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're looking. We're just looking for answers, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think communication with the mascot should be able to reconcile

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<v Speaker 3>that for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I would still have lawyers. That would be my advice,

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<v Speaker 2>simple as that. I know you don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I like anything, we'd like, we'd like to we'd

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<v Speaker 3>like to solve it commercially and just get a reconciliation

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<v Speaker 3>and an understanding of the of the big gap, not

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<v Speaker 3>only global being local, working with local contractors and local

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<v Speaker 3>uh you know, food providers and and and partners, but

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<v Speaker 3>also the gap and the economics to the to the

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<v Speaker 3>to the commonwealth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it just seems to me that that

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<v Speaker 2>even if it was a close call, you might want

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<v Speaker 2>to give it to the home team. And it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>sound to me as you have described it. I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>looked at these documents, but I'm assuming you're being honest

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<v Speaker 2>with me, which I know you are, it doesn't look

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<v Speaker 2>like a close call. I mean, if the other company

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<v Speaker 2>was just beat you on the bid, I'd say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sharpen your pencil next time. But this one again,

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<v Speaker 2>John Cesto's piece in the Globe caught my eye last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Masked Dot to overhaul pike service plazas. That's a good thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but selects Irish firm to redevelop all eighteen of the stops.

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<v Speaker 2>They swept the board here. I don't know what can

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<v Speaker 2>what can listeners do if they want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>rattle a cage or shake a tree. Any any advice?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, most people.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely dam There's a final vote on Wednesday, June eighteenth,

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<v Speaker 3>at noon. The public is allowed to attend, and we

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<v Speaker 3>encourage you to attend. You know, the decision affects all

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<v Speaker 3>of us, you know, residence travelers and the business owners.

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<v Speaker 3>So we encourage folks to go down and voice their opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>You know again, you know we're we're just looking for answers.

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<v Speaker 3>Global is a local company that that we're just trying

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<v Speaker 3>to understand a large gap in the in the revenue.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So who in who is it that makes this decision?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it the Secretary of Transportation and the governor? Who

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<v Speaker 2>who makes this decision on Wednesday? If this is the ultimate.

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<v Speaker 3>Decision, it's the mask top board.

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<v Speaker 2>How many members.

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<v Speaker 3>I I don't know for certain. I believe around a dozen.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that public knowledge? Who these folks are? Is there

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<v Speaker 2>a website we could direct people to if they want

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<v Speaker 2>to send an email and say, hey, we want answers?

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<v Speaker 2>Just giving you an option?

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<v Speaker 3>I would think so, but let me get back to

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<v Speaker 3>you on that. I don't have it off the top

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well this is the one. If people are interested,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what they should be doing. All right, Thank you, Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate your time tonight. I wish your best of

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<v Speaker 2>luck as a local company. Thank you. Very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Dan, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, good night. Well we get back when we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about older adults being scammed, which is a problem. It's

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<v Speaker 2>an honest to God problem, and we want you to

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<v Speaker 2>as simple as that. My name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside.

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<v Speaker 2>all of them, will get on the air. No bad language.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how that works. My name is Dan Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>No bad language. Back on night Side after this, It's.

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<v Speaker 1>Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News radio.

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<v Speaker 2>With us is Darius Kingsley. He's the head of consumer

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<v Speaker 2>banking practices and a Chase Bank, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about older adults getting scammed. How big a problem

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<v Speaker 2>is this, Darius, I actually think it's a huge problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks Dan, thanks for having me delight. He'll be here tonight. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it is a giant problem. Scams are rising across the board,

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<v Speaker 4>and elder Americans are particularly targeted.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason for that is, in my opinion, and I

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<v Speaker 2>assume in yours, that elder Americans have you know, saved

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<v Speaker 2>some money, they're in their retirement years, and they also

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<v Speaker 2>are nice people. They've they've known people who have hit

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<v Speaker 2>hard times. Uh, and they're willing to help. They're they're

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<v Speaker 2>generous of nature, generous of spirit. That makes them ripe

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<v Speaker 2>for the picking by these scam artists. How far off

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<v Speaker 2>am I with that analysis?

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<v Speaker 4>No, you're you're you're spot on. I mean, older Americans

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<v Speaker 4>have worked hard their whole lives. They've got savings, hopefully

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<v Speaker 4>some investments if they're lucky, you know, and scammers know that.

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<v Speaker 4>And so if scammers look to target people, they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to go after the people with some assets, which are

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<v Speaker 4>our older citizens. The other thing is kind of to

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<v Speaker 4>your point. Older people answer the phone, right. We come

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<v Speaker 4>from a generation. I'm a gen exer, but even I

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<v Speaker 4>come from a generation where we have phones in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 4>You answer the phone called when someone calls you. Younger

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<v Speaker 4>generations don't do that as much. I think a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of older people do you know, we open our mail,

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<v Speaker 4>We you know, look at emails. I think that there's

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of things about these generations that make us

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<v Speaker 4>particularly susceptible to get into conversations with scammers.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, one of the things I like to do when

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<v Speaker 2>I get these phone calls, and I do because I

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<v Speaker 2>have a telephone. I had a call tonight. I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of dinner. The phone rings, you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>who it is. I pick it up, and so and

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<v Speaker 2>so and we'd just like to take a few minutes

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<v Speaker 2>and ask you a few questions about a poll. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where that's going to lead. Maybe they're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get information on me, whatever, So I immediately tell them, wonderful,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for calling, because I am a

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<v Speaker 2>professional poll taker. Where can I send my bill for

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<v Speaker 2>this experience? And that studs it puts it right back

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<v Speaker 2>on the heels and they'll say, well, no, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>pay for the I said, well I would want I

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<v Speaker 2>would have give you a poll. That's what I do

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<v Speaker 2>for a living. I'll answer whatever question you have. But

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<v Speaker 2>where can I send my bill? And they eventually hang

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what I told the other night.

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<v Speaker 2>What I told the other night. I forget what they

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<v Speaker 2>were looking to do. But they they called me and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, why are you calling me? I'm in jail.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean you're in jail? I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in jail. I'm incarcerated. How do you have a phone.

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<v Speaker 2>They let me have a cell phone. I said, why

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<v Speaker 2>don't you take me off your call list? You just talk,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just talk to them and and mess with

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<v Speaker 2>them and they'll eventually take you out. And of course

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<v Speaker 2>you also can block those those those paint of the

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<v Speaker 2>neck phone. Yes, but they they have a million ways

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<v Speaker 2>to get to you. What's the what's the latest scam

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<v Speaker 2>that that that you've heard that you've heard about, Darius?

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<v Speaker 2>Is the old? Is that the grandchild scam where some

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<v Speaker 2>youngster calls and Grandma grandpa, I'm under arrest. I know

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<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't have been doing this. But I was smoking

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<v Speaker 2>marijuana or I was drinking behind this school. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want my parents can know. Can you send me some money?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that? Is that the That's the way I'm most

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<v Speaker 2>concerned about Dan that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I wouldn't say that's the top scam these days,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's certainly very common, you know. And and with

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<v Speaker 4>the top and so so these days we're really seeing

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<v Speaker 4>a rise in what we call bank impersonation scams. So

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the scammers know that so many Americans bank

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<v Speaker 4>at a lot of our larger banks, and they'll send

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<v Speaker 4>you a text, you'll get an email, maybe a phone call,

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<v Speaker 4>and they can spoof the number. They can spoof the

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<v Speaker 4>number of Chase and or you'll get that text and

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<v Speaker 4>it'll say, hey, there's fraud on your account, Chase fraud.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, did you make a charge? If not, call

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<v Speaker 4>this number, and they'll give you a number or maybe

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<v Speaker 4>a link in the text or in the email which

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<v Speaker 4>you should not call back. That's what they do to

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<v Speaker 4>trick you. And so you pick it up, you call

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<v Speaker 4>back that number you got in whatever your email, your text,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's the scammer. And you get into a conversation

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<v Speaker 4>with scammer and they're good, they're professionals, they're English is excellent.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't realize you're talking to someone, probably in a

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<v Speaker 4>scam call center in Southeast Asia, and you know they'll

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<v Speaker 4>tell you, oh, I work for Chase or a Bank

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<v Speaker 4>of America, whoever it is, and so you think you're

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<v Speaker 4>talking to the bank and you're trying to resolve a

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<v Speaker 4>fraud problem. In reality, unfortunately, you're often handing over personal

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<v Speaker 4>information that the scammers need to hack into your account.

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<v Speaker 2>You're probably talking to somebody in Chetshniya or Kazakhistan. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>some places that you've never heard of. It's unbelievable. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for blowing the whistle on this. I just

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<v Speaker 2>think these sorts of interviews, if we've saved one person

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<v Speaker 2>from getting scammed, it's been worth it tonight, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>A Darius and I really enjoyed the conversation you you

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<v Speaker 2>broke it down really clearly. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Great, Well, thanks for having me dance. They say, is.

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<v Speaker 2>There somewhere that you can direct my listeners to to

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<v Speaker 2>find out more information?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'd be happy to so you can learn a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't have to be a Chase customer. We actually

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<v Speaker 4>have all of the information on our website. It's Chase

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<v Speaker 4>dot Com Forward Flash Security, or if you just type

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<v Speaker 4>in Chase Security, you'll take you'll go to what we

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<v Speaker 4>call the Security Center. We keep it updated, We keep

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<v Speaker 4>it updated with the latest scams. We also tell you

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<v Speaker 4>what to do if you think you might have fallen

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<v Speaker 4>for one, or maybe you've gotten into conversation with a scammer.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll give you tips on next steps and you know

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<v Speaker 4>exactly what it is you should do, and we'll give

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<v Speaker 4>you some helpful reminders, things like making sure you go

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<v Speaker 4>in and turn on your fraud alerts at your bank.

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<v Speaker 4>You may not have them all on, you may not

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<v Speaker 4>realize that there's additional fraud alerts, or maybe you can

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<v Speaker 4>add a family member to those alerts that you had

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<v Speaker 4>an attitude before. So there's a lot of to that website. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>it's Chase dot Com Forward Slash Security.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds great. I really appreciate it, Darius, looking at that tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>It's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Dan, talk again. Thank you very much. Here comes

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<v Speaker 2>the news at the bottom of the arrow. We're about

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<v Speaker 2>a minute late. We get back. We're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>with the author they call him the Sultan of Garbage.

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<v Speaker 2>Tips on how to properly dispose of waste, recycle, and

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<v Speaker 2>how to be a responsible consumer. I believe in this stuff, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>and I practice it, and I hope you do as well.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk with Brian Bellefont right after the news at

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the hour on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Night Side with Dan Ray I'BZ Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, back to the phones we go, and back

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<v Speaker 2>to another again, particularly as we get towards summertime. I

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<v Speaker 2>think an important subject with us is Brian Bellfhant. Brian

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<v Speaker 2>is the author. Is this the name of a book,

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<v Speaker 2>the Sultan of Garbage? How are you? I've heard of

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<v Speaker 2>the Sultan of Swat, but never the Sultan of Garbage.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for having me on. Yes, that's the name of

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<v Speaker 5>the book, the Sultan of Garbage.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So first of all, how'd you get into How

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<v Speaker 2>did you become the Sultan of Garbage?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I don't think I became the Sultan of garbage.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm the guy who wrote the book about a guy

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<v Speaker 5>who's the Sultan of garbage. Story a story about a

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<v Speaker 5>guy who's dealing with the waste and consume, consumption, in

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<v Speaker 5>his life and he deals with it, and it echoes

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<v Speaker 5>kind of the waste and consumption that we have going

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<v Speaker 5>on in the world. I guess I agree that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree with that. I sometimes will go to

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<v Speaker 2>the dump and I'll say, where's all this stuff ending up?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I know. And look, the bottom line is

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<v Speaker 2>that we love the convenience. I'm somebody. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you old I am, but I'm on the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong side of fifty. I still take my cans. We

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<v Speaker 2>have a bottle and a can bill here in Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 2>only nickel. But if you buy a uh twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, case of beer, that's another buck twenty And

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<v Speaker 2>if you buy a twelve pack of some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>soft drink, that's sixty cents, right, And I want my

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<v Speaker 2>money back. And I also I washed the can or

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<v Speaker 2>the bottle out. You put it in a plastic bag

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<v Speaker 2>and I hand carry it to the either to the store,

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<v Speaker 2>liquor store or whatever. But I'm a huge believer in

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<v Speaker 2>this because you've heard, I've seen these stories about the

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<v Speaker 2>floating islands of garbage in the oceans.

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<v Speaker 5>Which, yeah, you know, it's incredible, and it's not just

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<v Speaker 5>the one ocean, because everybody talks about the great specific

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<v Speaker 5>garbage patch, which is the big one. Every ocean has them,

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<v Speaker 5>some oceans have more than one. It's with a current

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know what the what the answer is.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously recycling is the answer. But you know, every day,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, every week, I'll go through a gallon of milk.

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<v Speaker 2>I love milk, and I will I will rinse out

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<v Speaker 2>that milk, that that empty, empty the carton, and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>make sure it goes into the green pit trash bin,

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<v Speaker 2>which is recycle. So I assume that gets crushed somewhere, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But but how long does it hang around? How can

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<v Speaker 2>how can that not be used for more recycling as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to just getting crushed? What's You probably know so

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<v Speaker 2>much more about this than I do, but I'd love

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<v Speaker 2>to answer that, Like that question. The car takes up

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<v Speaker 2>a good amount of space, Like it's like one foot

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<v Speaker 2>by eight inches, it's like, you know, almost a foot

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<v Speaker 2>squares up square feet. Yeah, well, how can can we

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<v Speaker 2>recycle more effectively?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, there's a lot of there's a lot of parts

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<v Speaker 5>to that. I mean, yeah, on one hand, you could

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<v Speaker 5>get yourself a cow, then you wouldn't need the classic container,

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<v Speaker 5>or you could buy your milk the cow.

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<v Speaker 2>The cow flatulence, the cow flattery would are you attacting

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<v Speaker 2>the atmosphere. So I'm going to stick with the I'm

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's weird.

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<v Speaker 5>It all gets so complicated because every time you come

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<v Speaker 5>And it's just we're in a very complex world where,

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<v Speaker 5>don't think much about waste. You said it right at

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<v Speaker 5>the top. It's like you go to the dump and

419
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<v Speaker 5>you don't know where all that stuff is going. A

420
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<v Speaker 5>lot of most I don't know where all that stuff

421
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<v Speaker 5>is going. Where is all that stuff going? It's going.

422
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<v Speaker 5>A lot of it that doesn't end up with the

423
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<v Speaker 5>dump goes, you know, gets taken up by rivers into

424
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<v Speaker 5>the ocean. And the statistic I read is that sixty

425
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<v Speaker 5>percent of the plastic and we talk about these floating

426
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<v Speaker 5>islands of garbage, sixty percent of it sinks.

427
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<v Speaker 4>To the bottom.

428
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<v Speaker 5>So that's never going to get a dressed.

429
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<v Speaker 2>You would hope that at some point it might deteriorate.

430
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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know that then is what's going to

431
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<v Speaker 2>be in the in the system. I don't know. We've

432
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<v Speaker 2>been fighting this for fifty years in America. I can

433
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<v Speaker 2>remember smoking the bear, don't litter and all of that.

434
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<v Speaker 2>You still see people literally, you still see cigarette butts

435
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<v Speaker 2>on the side of the road. You still see knuckleheads

436
00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:12.680
<v Speaker 2>who throw, you know, coffee cups out the window as

437
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<v Speaker 2>you're driving down the road. I mean, what's wrong with it?

438
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<v Speaker 5>It's true, But I do think it's getting better. Well,

439
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<v Speaker 5>you know, I grew up in a place where.

440
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<v Speaker 2>But it's long cast the time, Brian, where simply should

441
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<v Speaker 2>be getting better. It should be perfect at this point.

442
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<v Speaker 5>I agree, But I don't think it's going to be

443
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<v Speaker 5>I know.

444
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Oh, so tell us about the book. So the

445
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<v Speaker 2>book is about an individual who's the who's the hero

446
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<v Speaker 2>in the book.

447
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<v Speaker 5>The hero of the book is this guy. He's a

448
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<v Speaker 5>commercial photographer, which means he goes around should do products,

449
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<v Speaker 5>and his life has gone off the rails. He's got

450
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<v Speaker 5>a girlfriend who doesn't appreciate him, and people who.

451
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<v Speaker 3>Take advantage of them, and.

452
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<v Speaker 5>He realizes sort of deep inside that he's helping perpetuate

453
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<v Speaker 5>this this situation where he's encouraging people to consume things

454
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<v Speaker 5>and sort of something. At the beginning of the story,

455
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<v Speaker 5>it's just this uneasy that he has. So he comes

456
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<v Speaker 5>into some money, decides he's going to go out and

457
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<v Speaker 5>check out this island of garbage floating in the ocean.

458
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<v Speaker 5>And the island of garbage turns out to be a

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<v Speaker 5>metaphor for his life, but it's also sort of a

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<v Speaker 5>reflection on our society of the consumption and waste and

461
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<v Speaker 5>waste and consumption. And I'm not going to tell you

462
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<v Speaker 5>how it ends, because I want you to read the book.

463
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I totally get that, So that's what that's why

464
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<v Speaker 2>you're here. Come on, Garbage fifty fifty or more recycling

465
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<v Speaker 2>facts and stats for twenty fifteen. Okay, I assume that's

466
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<v Speaker 2>all in the book. I know that book.

467
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<v Speaker 5>Actually they're not. It's an all affection book, So I

468
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<v Speaker 5>mean these things are alluded to. But no, I don't

469
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<v Speaker 5>make a very I'm not preaching. I don't believe people

470
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<v Speaker 5>really respond to preaching unless they already believed the mess

471
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<v Speaker 5>just being given, And so I'm not going to try

472
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<v Speaker 5>and turn to change your mind by you know, hammering

473
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<v Speaker 5>you with facts and statistics. I'm going to tell you

474
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<v Speaker 5>a story, and the story is going to just make

475
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<v Speaker 5>you feel sympathetic for the character, and you're going to

476
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<v Speaker 5>think about it. When you're done. You might go, you

477
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<v Speaker 5>know what, I should think about this a little bit deeper.

478
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<v Speaker 5>I should think about what happens to my milk carton.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I think about it all the time. And again,

480
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<v Speaker 2>if it gets crushed, that's one thing. But yeah, I

481
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<v Speaker 2>would think there would be some way you can't they

482
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<v Speaker 2>We used to burn garbage. We don't do that anymore

483
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<v Speaker 2>because of the atmosphereic concerns, but we used to burn leaves.

484
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<v Speaker 2>When I grew up, they would burn leaves. I live

485
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<v Speaker 2>in the city and you know, a part of Boston,

486
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<v Speaker 2>and you would rake the leaves into the gutter. And yeah,

487
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<v Speaker 2>first of all, you jump on the leaves as kids

488
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<v Speaker 2>on the lawn, and then you have to rap and

489
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<v Speaker 2>put them and then you would light them up. And

490
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<v Speaker 2>I thought myself, oh my god, if anyone did that today,

491
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<v Speaker 2>they would have to you have Marshall down there the

492
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<v Speaker 2>whole bit. Okay, so the books available I assume on Amazon.

493
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<v Speaker 2>That's the easy way. Do you have a website. You

494
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:14.759
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes people have a personal website and they'll get the

495
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<v Speaker 2>author to autograph the book for them and maybe even

496
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<v Speaker 2>a little cheaper than they get her on Amazon.

497
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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, Oh, here's the thing.

498
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<v Speaker 2>Good.

499
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<v Speaker 5>But the website is Sultan of Garbage dot com.

500
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<v Speaker 4>All one word.

501
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<v Speaker 5>Okay, but I'll tell you this. If you don't want

502
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<v Speaker 5>to like kill a tree, I the digital version.

503
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<v Speaker 2>I like that. Okay, Okay. Do you make more money

504
00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:34.680
<v Speaker 2>in the digital version of lesson?

505
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<v Speaker 5>I make the zero money on the digital version.

506
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, Well good for you. Then you you're

507
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<v Speaker 2>a man who practices what he preaches. You know what.

508
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<v Speaker 5>I wish I was a little better, but yeah, I

509
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<v Speaker 5>try it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Brian, nice to talk to me. That is pronounced bellefont,

511
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<v Speaker 2>Yes it is. Oh, how about that? I am Sometimes

512
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<v Speaker 2>I think his name's right. I surprise myself. Sometimes the

513
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<v Speaker 2>book is the Sultan of Garbage. Brian. I appreciated. Keep fighting. Okay,

514
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<v Speaker 2>we'll have you back. Thank you much.

515
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, thanks for having me on, Dan.

516
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<v Speaker 2>You're very welcome. Good night. When we get back, we're

517
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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about kind of a difficult issue to

518
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<v Speaker 2>talk about for me anyway, and that is the Red

519
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<v Speaker 2>Sox trade yesterday of Raphael Devers. Boy, I'm telling you

520
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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand this one. I'm not sure that Dan

521
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Watkins understands it any better. But Dan is as much

522
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<v Speaker 2>of a baseball fan as I am, and he, of

523
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:30.559
<v Speaker 2>course you know him as the WZ news radio anchor.

524
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:32.359
<v Speaker 2>He's also good sports guy. So we're going to talk

525
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<v Speaker 2>with Dan Watkins about the Raffie Devs trade. And at

526
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<v Speaker 2>nine o'clock I'm going to open it up for open

527
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<v Speaker 2>lines on the Raffie Devers trade. I've looked at it

528
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<v Speaker 2>about twenty different ways. I can't figure it out. I

529
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<v Speaker 2>really can't. But maybe Dan will give us some insight

530
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<v Speaker 2>that I haven't thought of. And we'll talk with Dan

531
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<v Speaker 2>Watkins right after this break on Night Side. My name's

532
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<v Speaker 2>Dan Ray, not Dan Watkins. I'm Dan Ray. He will

533
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<v Speaker 2>be Dan Watkins. And you're listening to Night Side with

534
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Dan Ray on WBZ ten thirty on the AM dial

535
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.680
<v Speaker 2>here in Boston. And you also can listen to us

536
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:12.079
<v Speaker 2>on the iHeart app. Very easy. All you have to

537
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:14.319
<v Speaker 2>do is pull down the new and improved iHeart app

538
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<v Speaker 2>onto your device, be it a tablet, oh a laptop, desktop,

539
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:26.440
<v Speaker 2>your phone whatever, and just make WBZ your number one

540
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:29.559
<v Speaker 2>preset and we're in business. You'll be with us every

541
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<v Speaker 2>night from Monday through Friday, from eight until midnight. And

542
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<v Speaker 2>we do a great show here on Nightside. And I

543
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<v Speaker 2>hope you tell your friends about it. Little bragging doesn't hurt.

544
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:40.000
<v Speaker 2>But if it's the truth, it's not bragging. Coming back

545
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<v Speaker 2>on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's

547
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<v Speaker 1>news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, a big story in Boston today. Also the big

549
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:51.839
<v Speaker 2>story in sports is the trade of Raffie Devers. Now

550
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<v Speaker 2>the Red Sox have just I guess they're still holding

551
00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:57.599
<v Speaker 2>a news conference on our own. Dan Watkins has been

552
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<v Speaker 2>monitoring that conference, that news conf Before we get to

553
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<v Speaker 2>Dan his analysis of what was and wasn't said and

554
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<v Speaker 2>what sort of questions were asked. Dan has pulled for

555
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<v Speaker 2>us a forty five second sound bite from Red Sox

556
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<v Speaker 2>team president Sam Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 6>Hit it Rob, you know, in the end, I think

558
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<v Speaker 6>it's pretty clear that we we couldn't find alignment with Ralphie.

559
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<v Speaker 1>Is the truth.

560
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<v Speaker 6>We we we we all worked at it over the

561
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<v Speaker 6>last several months, going back to the off season.

562
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<v Speaker 1>Starting with Alex Cora and Craig and the staff, and

563
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<v Speaker 1>then up to the to me and all the way

564
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<v Speaker 1>up to John Henry.

565
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<v Speaker 2>We worked at it. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a different vision for him going forward than than.

567
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<v Speaker 2>He had, and we couldn't get there.

568
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<v Speaker 5>We couldn't find alignment, and we reached that inflection point

569
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<v Speaker 5>and made the decision.

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<v Speaker 1>To UH to make a big move.

571
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<v Speaker 2>Dan Watkins is with us. What was their vision? Dan,

572
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<v Speaker 2>because it seemed to me that the vision was switching,

573
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<v Speaker 2>and once Bregman came, Raffie was told he was no

574
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<v Speaker 2>longer that third basement, he was the DH and then

575
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<v Speaker 2>when the first baseman gets hurt and they ask him

576
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:18.759
<v Speaker 2>to play for a space, he's not thrilled about that.

577
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<v Speaker 2>What was the vision?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, Dan, I think this all just kind

579
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<v Speaker 6>of comes back to some miscommunication in the offseason with

580
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<v Speaker 6>the approach and trying to sign Alex Bregman and eventually

581
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<v Speaker 6>signing him and just not really you know, letting Devers

582
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<v Speaker 6>know what their plans were. So he arrives to spring

583
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<v Speaker 6>training and if you remember, Bregman signs like three or

584
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<v Speaker 6>four days after they get to camp, and then Devers

585
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<v Speaker 6>is pretty much told that he's going to be moved

586
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<v Speaker 6>to DH, and he's very adamant, and he was very frustrated,

587
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<v Speaker 6>saying that he's the third baseman of the team. He

588
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<v Speaker 6>left camp for a few days to go cool off,

589
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:56.240
<v Speaker 6>comes back and agrees to be the DH. And then,

590
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<v Speaker 6>as you just mentioned, Tristan Cossis gets hurt in May

591
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<v Speaker 6>and they kind of want him to try to play

592
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<v Speaker 6>first base now and pick that up in the middle

593
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<v Speaker 6>of the season, and he is furious about that. He

594
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<v Speaker 6>basically tells Craig Breslo that he needs to go do

595
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<v Speaker 6>his job and bring in more players and to stop

596
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<v Speaker 6>relying on him to change positions all the time. So

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<v Speaker 6>I think there was some hurt feelings here on both sides,

598
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<v Speaker 6>But I think this comes down to Devers wanted to

599
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<v Speaker 6>be a DH now at this point in the Red

600
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<v Speaker 6>Sox didn't want to pay thirty one million dollars a

601
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<v Speaker 6>year for a designated hitter and a guy that wasn't

602
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<v Speaker 6>going to play the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let's assume you decide you want to get

604
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<v Speaker 2>rid of him. Is this the best that they could

605
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<v Speaker 2>get for him at this point? I mean, it sounds

606
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<v Speaker 2>like they got a couple of minor league players and

607
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<v Speaker 2>a couple of pitchers who one has already been sent

608
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<v Speaker 2>to Worcester and the other guy. Neither one of them

609
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<v Speaker 2>looked like that candidates for the Cy Young Award, Let's

610
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<v Speaker 2>put it that way.

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<v Speaker 6>Definitely not from what I've heard and understand. Kyle Harrison,

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<v Speaker 6>who was sent to Worcester last night, he was supposed

613
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<v Speaker 6>to pitch on Sunday Night Baseball for the Giants, but

614
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<v Speaker 6>ends up getting scratched. That he's a you know, a

615
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<v Speaker 6>mid rotation guy at best, your number three, number four starter.

616
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<v Speaker 6>And then Jordan Hicks is a guy kind of like

617
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<v Speaker 6>Garrett Whitlock who's tried to be a starter, gets hurt,

618
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<v Speaker 6>probably better off in the bullpen. And then you got

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<v Speaker 6>their first round pick from a year ago. But the

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<v Speaker 6>Red Sox, the big thing Craig Breslow kept preaching tonight

621
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<v Speaker 6>during this press conference that went on for forty five

622
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<v Speaker 6>minutes was that they really like the roster flexibility that

623
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<v Speaker 6>they have now where they can get some of these

624
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<v Speaker 6>younger guys into the lineup, and they this is a

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<v Speaker 6>quote from Breslo saying, quote, I do think there's a

626
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<v Speaker 6>real chance at the end of the season, we're looking

627
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<v Speaker 6>back and we've won more games than we otherwise would

628
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:35.720
<v Speaker 6>have with Devers on the team. So it's a really

629
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:39.680
<v Speaker 6>interesting situation that's played out of Fenway here. I'm not

630
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:43.000
<v Speaker 6>personally a fan of the move, taking out a potential,

631
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:45.720
<v Speaker 6>you know, a perennial All Star and a guy that

632
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:48.119
<v Speaker 6>is building a Hall of Fame resume in his own endeavors.

633
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<v Speaker 6>I don't think they're a better team today, but we'll

634
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<v Speaker 6>see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, again, you think back to the Gosky pair

636
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:57.599
<v Speaker 2>of trade back in two thousand and four, which worked

637
00:33:57.640 --> 00:33:59.240
<v Speaker 2>out for the Red Sox. Then you think about the

638
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:02.559
<v Speaker 2>Mookie betste which has only worked out for Mookie Betts.

639
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:04.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, most of the players that they got from

640
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Mookie Betts have now moved on themselves, and Bets is

641
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:11.719
<v Speaker 2>playing really well and has played very well for years,

642
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:14.679
<v Speaker 2>as we expected he would. In Los Angeles with the Dodgers,

643
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:17.320
<v Speaker 2>what were the tone of the questions? A lot of

644
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:21.320
<v Speaker 2>the sports guys in town tend to be very respectful

645
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:24.880
<v Speaker 2>when they're say, talking to Bill Belichick or something like that,

646
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:27.840
<v Speaker 2>a little different than a lot of the political reporters,

647
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:29.400
<v Speaker 2>who kind of have a mor of ad age to

648
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:33.639
<v Speaker 2>their questions. Were the reporters, what were the tone of

649
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:34.199
<v Speaker 2>the questions.

650
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:38.360
<v Speaker 6>They were going directly at Kennedy and Bresla pretty well tonight,

651
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:40.519
<v Speaker 6>I thought. I mean, the fact that this thing went

652
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:42.559
<v Speaker 6>on for forty five minutes, I think was a good

653
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:45.880
<v Speaker 6>sign from the beat. You know, they got Breslaw to

654
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:47.880
<v Speaker 6>say that they're not waving the white flag on the

655
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:50.199
<v Speaker 6>twenty twenty five season, which I have a hard time

656
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:52.480
<v Speaker 6>believing personally, just with the way the Red Sox have

657
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:55.599
<v Speaker 6>handled themselves here in the past half a decade now,

658
00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:58.079
<v Speaker 6>or how they've been a you know, a five hundred

659
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:01.039
<v Speaker 6>baseball team since really since they traded Mookie Betts, and

660
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:03.119
<v Speaker 6>how they keep talking about this long term vision and

661
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:05.360
<v Speaker 6>keep telling fans that, you know, it's it's gonna happen

662
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:07.119
<v Speaker 6>in the long term, and then they go and pull

663
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:09.880
<v Speaker 6>the you know, pull the rug out from underneath Red

664
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:11.760
<v Speaker 6>Sox nation here this weekend by doing it well.

665
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<v Speaker 2>Having the three young guys come up also, Dobbins has

666
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:18.079
<v Speaker 2>been a pretty good surprise. I think that Fits is

667
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:20.159
<v Speaker 2>going to get himself squared away at Worcester, So I

668
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.280
<v Speaker 2>think they're going to have some young people. You look at,

669
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:27.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, cut of Crawford hasn't thrown a ball yet Tanner,

670
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:30.320
<v Speaker 2>howk Is is amongst the missing at this point, So

671
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:33.320
<v Speaker 2>they lost two good guys who would have been potential

672
00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:36.719
<v Speaker 2>guys in the rotation. Their rotation with Dobbins now in

673
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:39.559
<v Speaker 2>seems to have set it down. Bao pitched well yesterday.

674
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Geelito some good, some bad. Same with Fuel. Yeah, with

675
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:48.719
<v Speaker 2>Buell or two, but Geolita was more. Buell has been

676
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:52.320
<v Speaker 2>more consistent. I think that Gelito Crochet has been great.

677
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:56.960
<v Speaker 2>So you know, they have they have a starting rotation here,

678
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:59.280
<v Speaker 2>which they didn't have a year ago. But now they're

679
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:01.239
<v Speaker 2>just taking a big out out of the lineup and

680
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:06.679
<v Speaker 2>at some point, uh, someone's good. I guess maybe uh

681
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:10.039
<v Speaker 2>Toro plays third base for the rest of the season

682
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:11.840
<v Speaker 2>until until Bregmant comes back.

683
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<v Speaker 6>So it looks like Meyer's there tonight and I can't

684
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<v Speaker 6>It's it's crazy. So they put out the lineup card

685
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:18.719
<v Speaker 6>for tonight and they got rookies hitting three, four, five

686
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:21.000
<v Speaker 6>in the lineup, which is crazy to think about for

687
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:22.639
<v Speaker 6>a team that says that they do want to make

688
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:23.199
<v Speaker 6>the playoffs.

689
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you know, okay that you know, Meyer had

690
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:28.679
<v Speaker 2>a couple of couple of dingers the other the other

691
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:31.880
<v Speaker 2>night in the game, and uh, you know Anthony's going

692
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:34.400
<v Speaker 2>to hit. I don't. I mean, he's he's not, he's

693
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:37.159
<v Speaker 2>I think he's he's he's.

694
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<v Speaker 6>For him giving away from Fenway, I think is a

695
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:42.039
<v Speaker 6>good thing for him, let him kind of get some

696
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:43.760
<v Speaker 6>hits on the road where there's less pressure.

697
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, Well, Dan, I appreciate it so much. You're

698
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:50.320
<v Speaker 2>talking to us. You're doing double duty tonight, news duty,

699
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:53.239
<v Speaker 2>sports duty. It's going to be interesting. I mean, they

700
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:57.559
<v Speaker 2>they made this trade. Uh after a five game winning

701
00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:01.480
<v Speaker 2>streak and and sweeping the Yankees. What Devers was at

702
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:03.719
<v Speaker 2>the airport heading to Seattle? Did they pull him off

703
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:04.199
<v Speaker 2>the plane?

704
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<v Speaker 6>They did, and they put him in a taxi, which

705
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:08.960
<v Speaker 6>was just crazy. I don't know if you saw the footage.

706
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<v Speaker 6>I believe Channel five got it and and him coming

707
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:15.360
<v Speaker 6>back in the in the taxi they pulled him off

708
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:17.440
<v Speaker 6>the plane, he hops in his car, his range Rover,

709
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:20.159
<v Speaker 6>and just heads right out, doesn't talk to anybody. It

710
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:22.400
<v Speaker 6>was quite the sight. I mean, that's something you're gonna

711
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:25.400
<v Speaker 6>that's one of those things where you remember where you

712
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:27.679
<v Speaker 6>were when that happened. If you're a big sports fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and San Francisco is not playing tonight. They they're

714
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:38.559
<v Speaker 2>home tomorrow night, so he'll be well received. And uh,

715
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<v Speaker 2>I would say this, I think that that that San

716
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Francisco got a better player with Devers going there than

717
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:51.639
<v Speaker 2>we did getting Sandoval Pablo Sandoval coming here. I say

718
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:55.519
<v Speaker 2>bet if they were both third basement two. So we'll see.

719
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<v Speaker 6>Hopefully Raffi's belt holds up. I'm like unlike the pandas yes, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad Watkins as always, thank you, my friend, you pinch

721
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<v Speaker 2>it for us tonight. That's great. Thanks Pop. Talk soon. Okay,

722
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<v Speaker 2>well we get back. We're going to open up the conversation.

723
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<v Speaker 2>What do you think if you're a Red Sox fan

724
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:14.559
<v Speaker 2>out there, and even if you're a casual Red Sox fan,

725
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:17.800
<v Speaker 2>do you like this idea? I mean, it's been hanging

726
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:20.920
<v Speaker 2>out there for about three months now, from spring training on.

727
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Something had to give. We know what gave. Please feel

728
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:29.079
<v Speaker 2>free to jump on board and let us know what

729
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:31.239
<v Speaker 2>you think. You have the numbers back on Night's side,

730
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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna talk a little baseball for the next one hour.