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Speaker 5: Welcome to the occult rejects in this episode. I got
Speaker 5: a bunch of us with us today. I got Jin
Speaker 5: the Ninja. Welcome, sir, what's going on? Thank you very
Speaker 5: much for joining us today.
Speaker 6: Thank you Nick, I appreciate it obviously, my boss mister
Speaker 6: thirty three, and thank you guys for being on and
Speaker 6: working with all of you today. And I've never met
Speaker 6: Julia Raven or Lobster, but yeah, it's all good.
Speaker 5: Good and you want to let everybody know where they
Speaker 5: can find your stuff.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 6: So I have a show called Threshold Saints. It's really
Speaker 6: I'm calling it a serial experiments in speculative ontology.
Speaker 5: So it's like about the.
Speaker 6: Metafiction of magic and fiction, storytelling, narrative, all the things
Speaker 6: that we talked about whenever I'm on the show. So
Speaker 6: if you want to check that out, you can follow
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Speaker 5: Awesome, Thank you very much and your links will be
Speaker 5: in the bottom off then not already, And Lisa, that
Speaker 5: made scientist. What is going on? Thank you very much
Speaker 5: for joining us. I know you have nothing to plug,
Speaker 5: but thank you for joining us.
Speaker 7: Wait wait, wait, I do have something to plug. A
Speaker 7: cult research institute dot org our website where a lot
Speaker 7: of really cool people contribute a written form of media.
Speaker 5: So thank you, awesome, thank you very much. And yeah,
Speaker 5: people go check that site out. Now to Julia, Cosmic
Speaker 5: Peach is with us. Hell, yeah, what is going on? Julia?
Speaker 5: Let everybody know what your deal is and where they
Speaker 5: can find your stuff. Please.
Speaker 2: I am official occult rejeck. Now this is my second
Speaker 2: time co hosting. I'm so excited. Yeah, you can find
Speaker 2: Cosmic Peach podcasts wherever you listen to podcasts except YouTube
Speaker 2: of course, flock them. And yeah, actually I've been really
Speaker 2: digging being an occult reject because I've already learned so much.
Speaker 2: I love I love having the variety of guests on.
Speaker 2: I'm really excited about this one today too.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, thank you and thank you for being a
Speaker 5: part of it. Julia, you're a great researcher. I appreciate
Speaker 5: the stuff you do. And uh, the og himself. Last,
Speaker 5: but not least, Robbie Marx. What is up, my man?
Speaker 5: Please let everybody know where they can find all your
Speaker 5: amazing work and your art.
Speaker 8: Yeah, thanks for having me on. Thanks for getting this
Speaker 8: group together. This is gonna be a good one.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm our Marx or Robbie Marx.
Speaker 8: I'm an artist and I do art for bands and
Speaker 8: festivals as well as researching. If you want to check
Speaker 8: out any of my stuff, my art, my podcast, my Patreon,
Speaker 8: you can go to my link tree which is at
Speaker 8: r M A r X R Marx and then I'll
Speaker 8: pull up everything.
Speaker 5: That's what's up And thank you very much for joining
Speaker 5: us as well, sir. And finally, to the guests of
Speaker 5: the hour, we got Raven and top Lobster from the
Speaker 5: Nephilim Death Squad. I went on the show. I had
Speaker 5: a blest. It was awesome. They asked great questions, they
Speaker 5: seemed really into it, and I really wanted to get
Speaker 5: them on the show as well. I guess we'll go
Speaker 5: with top Lobster first. What's up, dude? You want to
Speaker 5: introduce yourself and let everybody know who may not know
Speaker 5: who you are, what you deal is?
Speaker 4: Yes, what's up, guys, Thank you. I am a ship
Speaker 4: poster online. I own a T shirt company toplopster dot com,
Speaker 4: and I do a couple of shows, one of them
Speaker 4: nephlm Des Squad with David here. We talk about the
Speaker 4: things that you guys like. I do comedy Tower Gang,
Speaker 4: and we do a political pseudo conspiracy show with our
Speaker 4: Frank Clint Russell, which will be we'll be doing it.
Speaker 4: I guess after this show, right around two thirty. It's
Speaker 4: called Dangerous Retards or Dangerous real talk, real dudes, the retards.
Speaker 1: Implied, and then that's what I do. Dave, what's up?
Speaker 1: What's up? Guys? Thank you for having us.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we just did an episode with you, Nick, and
Speaker 9: we also had Robbie on and that was a awesome conversation.
Speaker 9: We went heavy into the egg, real heavy into the egg.
Speaker 9: And uh yeah, I'm David Lee Korby. You can find
Speaker 9: me on Twitter at David L. Corbo on Twitter, and
Speaker 9: I am one half of Nephelim Des Squad, one third
Speaker 9: of Dangerous Retards. Also do a show called Timeline Cleansed
Speaker 9: that probably nobody should watch because it's very abrasive and
Speaker 9: incredibly offensive.
Speaker 1: Very happy to be here guys.
Speaker 5: Awesome. Yeah, I'm very happy to have you on, and
Speaker 5: especially for this topic. I guess whichever one of you
Speaker 5: want to answer this first. Who was it that even
Speaker 5: came across this guy that thought it was interesting to cover?
Speaker 4: Oh, that was top Top, We'll discovered him. Not really,
Speaker 4: it was it was just multiple guests. We've had, we
Speaker 4: have people on and they come on and they're like, yeah, anyway,
Speaker 4: so you know, this guy was doing this thing and
Speaker 4: I was like, what's his name, and they're like, pouha Rich.
Speaker 1: I was like okay, and.
Speaker 4: Then it's it's come up like maybe seven eight times
Speaker 4: before I said, wait a second, what the fuck is
Speaker 4: going on in different fields of study, not just like
Speaker 4: the occult, but like science, in the science realm, in
Speaker 4: the CIA realm, in you know, the government realms. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: now we need to actually look into who this guy is.
Speaker 4: And I think the thing that broke the camel's back
Speaker 4: was William Ramsey was on the show and he was
Speaker 4: talking about this Council of Nine, not the actual entities
Speaker 4: of the Council of Nine, but this council that this
Speaker 4: guy created too. It was like a governing body sort
Speaker 4: of counsel that I guess they were international, and his
Speaker 4: name pops up again. So I was like, all right,
Speaker 4: that's the final straw. We've got to really look into
Speaker 4: this guy. And now everywhere we look, he's consistently popping up.
Speaker 4: We even have one field of study that we're not
Speaker 4: ready to really dive in on because we're like still
Speaker 4: expanding on what this guy's doing. But his name comes
Speaker 4: up in a very popular podcast series called the Telepathy Tapes,
Speaker 4: and it's just like, yeah, of course when I heard it,
Speaker 4: is like, yeah, of course he's involved with this. And
Speaker 4: I guess if you guys don't mind, we could kind
Speaker 4: of jump right into what he's what he's doing.
Speaker 5: So but we're just real quick. You said he was
Speaker 5: involved with the Telepathy Tapes.
Speaker 9: Well, it's not that he's involved with the Telepathy tapes.
Speaker 9: It's that he finds his way into the conversation and
Speaker 9: in virtually every topic that maybe maybe the scientific community
Speaker 9: or the medical community would call pseudoscience. And as soon
Speaker 9: as you start delving into that realm, he pops up.
Speaker 9: You asked which one of us discovered it, and I
Speaker 9: was quick to say Top, But as Top was talking
Speaker 9: about it, it's more like he found us, right. It's
Speaker 9: really like, if you if you are looking at the
Speaker 9: truth of you know, the nature of the realm that
Speaker 9: we exist in, and you go back, you know, anywhere
Speaker 9: within the last hundred years, this guy is gonna pop
Speaker 9: up in some way, shape or form. We were kind
Speaker 9: of joking about him before the show, and in fact,
Speaker 9: he's even like I don't want to get the cart
Speaker 9: ahead of the wagon or whatever the expression is here.
Speaker 9: But we found out and I'm sure that you guys
Speaker 9: know this. He's associated with the actual tinfoil hat, Like
Speaker 9: this is the guy that popularized the notion of the
Speaker 9: tinfoil hat. He's kind of like the conspiracy community's mascot,
Speaker 9: and this is and h.
Speaker 1: He's been right under our news.
Speaker 4: That's where he comes up in the telepathy tapes, not
Speaker 4: necessarily with the esoteric side of it. He comes up
Speaker 4: in the beginning of an episode, episode two. I believe
Speaker 4: they're talking about radio waves being frequencies that people can hear,
Speaker 4: and then they give an example of Lucile Ball. She
Speaker 4: goes and she has dental surgery, and she starts picking
Speaker 4: up radio waves somewhere in Manhattan, and right away my
Speaker 4: radio wave antenna is up.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what the fuck did you just say?
Speaker 4: So I'm listening and then they go, oh, yeah, by
Speaker 4: the way, a doctor in Driga, PA. They call him
Speaker 4: a doctor scientist. He was developing this dental implant technology
Speaker 4: that would actually put these radio a radio wave signal
Speaker 4: into your head.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, voice to that technology.
Speaker 3: Sound go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So the reason we say it's related to the tinfoil
Speaker 4: hat is because there are like tangential stories of places
Speaker 4: where he may have been. And there's a guy that
Speaker 4: famously wrapped his head in tin because he was hearing
Speaker 4: voices in his head and the tin stopped it. So
Speaker 4: in this nursing home or a psychiatric facility that the
Speaker 4: guy was at, this is what he did, and the
Speaker 4: doctors allowed it and he said it helped them, so
Speaker 4: they're like fine. So the connotation of tinfoil hat kind
Speaker 4: of derives itself from there, but the origination is really
Speaker 4: this dude that probably is putting this stuff into his teeth.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's top. I actually remember too.
Speaker 9: The way that he came up in a big way
Speaker 9: on our radar was with Control Alt History. We had
Speaker 9: him on our show, right, and he was talking about
Speaker 9: the Spirit Calm, which is a device that was created
Speaker 9: sometime in the eighties and it was like a reliable
Speaker 9: piece of technology that people were able to communicate with,
Speaker 9: something that was you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 9: they just said was coming from the Spirit realm. But
Speaker 9: what was happening was people were coming from far and
Speaker 9: wide to try to debunk it, and over and over
Speaker 9: again they were finding that it wasn't debunkible. And then
Speaker 9: I think that one of the main guys, I don't
Speaker 9: know if it was, it wasn't Pooh harridh somebody that
Speaker 9: was working intimately with it eventually ends up getting diagnosed
Speaker 9: with schizophrenia and his story ends pretty sadly. He's institutionalized,
Speaker 9: you know, for the rest of his days. So, yeah,
Speaker 9: this whole thing is like he just keeps coming up
Speaker 9: anything that's fascinating, you know, like the Spirit Calm or
Speaker 9: like the tinfoil hat blocking these waves.
Speaker 1: It's like Pooharridge finds his way into the narrative somehow.
Speaker 8: So Poohrrich when you look at his early work, his
Speaker 8: first book was The Sacred Mushroom, and he's actually using
Speaker 8: fly Garrick mushrooms to try to create telepathy. He actually
Speaker 8: built a far Day cage for two people to sit
Speaker 8: in so that they could you know, test the properties,
Speaker 8: and he said there was a twenty five percent increase
Speaker 8: intelepithy within the Faraday cage. But he's you know, he's
Speaker 8: given speeches to the Department of Defense on like psychic spying.
Speaker 8: He's like, I mean, he's literally his laboratory comes straight
Speaker 8: out of the Roundtable Groups, which is basically linked back
Speaker 8: to Cecil Roads and you know, bringing America back under
Speaker 8: the wing of the British. It he's just wrapped up
Speaker 8: in everything.
Speaker 9: I think what he's finding there is actually really fascinating.
Speaker 9: Right to put people in a Faraday cage and then
Speaker 9: to find that there's a twenty five percent increase in
Speaker 9: the success of being able to predict or read or
Speaker 9: you know, use some form of telepathy. I have my theories,
Speaker 9: and it's not like it's a profound one. I think
Speaker 9: a lot of us suspect that these abilities are innate
Speaker 9: to us one way or another. But I was speculating
Speaker 9: just on the phone with Top the other day that
Speaker 9: I think what's really going on here is that we're
Speaker 9: being stifled in so many different ways, So from the
Speaker 9: shit that they're sprying in the air to the things
Speaker 9: that are in our food. There's the old trope of
Speaker 9: fluoride roting the pineal gland. But those waves, right, Bluetooth
Speaker 9: and Wi Fi and all this different shit cell phone
Speaker 9: signals and radio waves. I imagine that because of the
Speaker 9: nature of the ability to read thoughts, which you know,
Speaker 9: I'm no expert on it, but it seems to be
Speaker 9: more so the ability to receive waves right, waves and
Speaker 9: frequency that are being admitted by another person in the
Speaker 9: form of thought. Well, if there's a bunch of other crap,
Speaker 9: like I said, Bluetooth and Wi Fi and five G
Speaker 9: and all these different things bombarding you constantly, it's got
Speaker 9: to be hindering that exchange that maybe.
Speaker 1: Actually is innate to us in one way or another.
Speaker 9: So I find that fascinating that he actually found more success,
Speaker 9: and that kind of opens the door to which I
Speaker 9: think is still part of this conversation Rogan promoting these
Speaker 9: John C. Lilly sensory deprivation tanks. I kind of am
Speaker 9: looking at this like we're getting something very old and
Speaker 9: we're getting it repackaged and alert into the culture.
Speaker 8: Poohich also promotes the idea of the ice bath in
Speaker 8: regard to oh yeah, in regard to training the body
Speaker 8: to find the inner light to be able to bring
Speaker 8: about enlightenment. So yeah, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Go ahead. Oh, I was just gonna say, Nephlom Death Squad.
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with the Laurel Canyon at all?
Speaker 9: Yes, Yes, they're manufacturing all of our cultural phenomenons, right,
Speaker 9: So I.
Speaker 2: Actually I talk about it a lot. Obviously the cult
Speaker 2: rejects know this, But I came across Andrea pooh Haich
Speaker 2: in studying shit from the sixties, actually because he comes up.
Speaker 2: It was an episode I did about cults and Heaven's
Speaker 2: Gate came up. In something that was adjacent to the
Speaker 2: Heaven's Gate cult was this guy named Yuri Geller and
Speaker 2: Andrea pooh Harrich, and I did this whole fucking presentation
Speaker 2: on him and.
Speaker 5: Type of dude he was.
Speaker 2: Up to this ship in the sixties, just Laurel Canyon
Speaker 2: day CIA fucking program to fucking AI extraterrestrial like he
Speaker 2: was all about that shit. And it blew my mind
Speaker 2: when I first heard about him, because I just didn't
Speaker 2: hear a lot of other people talking about him at
Speaker 2: the time. But I'm so glad you guys know about it.
Speaker 1: It feels like our mascot, doesn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, right, He's fallen through the cracks in so
Speaker 4: many ways. So a little bit about his history. He's
Speaker 4: born in nineteen eighteen in Croatia. He uh, he actually
Speaker 4: dies in ninety five unexpectedly. He falls down a set
Speaker 4: of stairs and just dies like this, like really anti
Speaker 4: climactic wave. Right, Such a fantastic life that this guy has.
Speaker 5: Like a cat tripped him up, stumbled.
Speaker 1: Over his cat. Yeah, the cat made his eyelids.
Speaker 5: So what's about it. He didn't see that one coming, bro.
Speaker 4: Telepathy doesn't work on cats. The entities didn't tell you
Speaker 4: about that, right. So, so he had some military service
Speaker 4: and he joined the Army Medical Corps in the fifties,
Speaker 4: and that's kind of when all of this starts off.
Speaker 4: He finds himself in Edgewood, Edgewood Arsenal and exactly.
Speaker 2: Frank Frank zapA.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't even really need to go into this,
Speaker 4: Like I had went into a deep dive after I
Speaker 4: looked into Edgewood, and I'm like, this is an entire episode.
Speaker 4: This is an entire series of episodes. So he goes
Speaker 4: there and that's like, you know, people speculate that that
Speaker 4: could be the beginning of the mk Ultra program different
Speaker 4: CIA programs that are starting from this one place. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he comes out, and I guess he writes that book
Speaker 4: soon after the No No he writes that, like in
Speaker 4: the sixties, I believe, or just before nineteen sixty, the
Speaker 4: Sacred Mushroom, and he also does some telepathy studies. But
Speaker 4: before that, like when he comes out, one of the
Speaker 4: first things that he does is he meets a Indian
Speaker 4: mystic doctor named doctor Venad doctor or doctor d g.
Speaker 4: Vanad is this guy's name, and uh, they they hit
Speaker 4: it off and they start to do their thing, and
Speaker 4: they start to channel some you know, just let's let's go.
Speaker 4: I guess that's what you do when you meet somebody
Speaker 4: I don't know in the occult you're like, let's fucking
Speaker 4: channel stuff.
Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, I think you're beyond like going to you know, friendlies.
Speaker 9: It doesn't you know, like, what's the point of getting
Speaker 9: to occultists that are into telepathy together if you're going
Speaker 9: to just go and have a grand slam at Denny's,
Speaker 9: Like you want to go and some entities no skip
Speaker 9: the four.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they just start summoning entities I suppose. And
Speaker 4: one of the entities that comes to them, uh, it
Speaker 4: has a name, but it doesn't really give itself a name.
Speaker 4: It's it's identifying itself as nine other entities. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: the entities that it calls itself are a tome shoot
Speaker 4: uh ten foot, ten foot, GiB nut nut nice osiris
Speaker 4: isis set, and Nephesis, which are the Yeah, these are
Speaker 4: the names of the Egyptian Aniad, These Egyptian Inniad, baby
Speaker 4: and nine.
Speaker 9: I was talking about it a little bit too, and
Speaker 9: I'm sure we'll end up getting into it. But on
Speaker 9: on TikTok there seems to be like this big renaissance,
Speaker 9: not a renaissance, I guess, renaissance in the way of like, uh,
Speaker 9: you know, going back to because these are old spiritual
Speaker 9: principles and old entities, but they're suddenly coming into the
Speaker 9: narrative again. There's a lady that I forget what her
Speaker 9: name is, would have been watching her on TikTok got
Speaker 9: Ouigi board like twenty years ago and was communicating with something.
Speaker 9: Her and her husband were and they had an ongoing
Speaker 9: dialogue with this thing for you know, two decades, and
Speaker 9: eventually they get a lot of information from it. It
Speaker 9: identifies itself as seven, which interestingly enough, there is on
Speaker 9: you can find a book called the Council of Nine
Speaker 9: or the Council of Saturn, and it's written by seven,
Speaker 9: and it has this same message that this seven has
Speaker 9: to this woman on TikTok, and that message is more
Speaker 9: or less like, we have to spiritually ascend and we
Speaker 9: have to be careful because we're moving towards a calamity,
Speaker 9: some sort of a climate related earth affecting calamity.
Speaker 1: And this is the same thing that.
Speaker 9: Puharige got from the Ennead, right, this is the same
Speaker 9: thing that you see it like over and over again.
Speaker 9: It's the same thing that the Galactic Confederation of Light
Speaker 9: is telling you. Right, it's this Council of Aliens.
Speaker 2: That it reminds me of what's that book called that
Speaker 2: was Channel the Law of One Channel?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I.
Speaker 1: Because it is the same thing.
Speaker 9: It's this narrative has been repeating itself for so This
Speaker 9: is our contention on Nephelum Death Squad is that this
Speaker 9: is a masterful rebranding because much of the apparatus, like
Speaker 9: Hollywood or NASA or the scientific community has been geared
Speaker 9: towards feeding us a narrative. And that narrative is that,
Speaker 9: you know, we are maybe not the smartest thing in
Speaker 9: the universe. There are that are beyond us, and they're
Speaker 9: hyper advanced technologically speaking, and also in between like shooting
Speaker 9: lasers at us and destroying our cities and like the
Speaker 9: day the Earth stood still or something, there's this other
Speaker 9: narrative that begins to emerge, and that is they're going
Speaker 9: to help us ascend, and they're very concerned with us
Speaker 9: destroying ourselves.
Speaker 1: And mutually assured nuclear destructions.
Speaker 4: So is let me, let me I wrote down exactly
Speaker 4: what they what they're warning of. So they're warn of
Speaker 4: technology misuse like with nuclear weapons, environmental crises, and an
Speaker 4: impending shift in human consciousness toward enlightenment or collapse. So
Speaker 4: all these things are like kind of New Age ideas.
Speaker 4: Then they also talk about the galactic Federation of Light
Speaker 4: and all this stuff like you know, thousands of light
Speaker 4: years away and shit like that.
Speaker 1: Where you're here, you'll hear uh I.
Speaker 4: Forget the names of these uh, these these federation actors,
Speaker 4: but they're very upset with us and how we've been
Speaker 4: behaving on Earth.
Speaker 1: So and how we've created the planet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And what I found interesting is that it's consistently
Speaker 4: the same message from that Puharich is getting that these
Speaker 4: other he brings a couple of other psychics or people
Speaker 4: that are remote viewers, y remote viewers, and they are
Speaker 4: also channeling the nine for about twenty plus years. It
Speaker 4: goes from like nineteen fifty to at least nineteen seventy two.
Speaker 4: And then whenever these programs they just stopped, They're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: we just stopped, like we figured out what we needed.
Speaker 4: I have a you know, I don't fucking believe them.
Speaker 9: So it could be that's the same thing, right when
Speaker 9: they say, like, oh, the mk ulture program was real,
Speaker 9: but it's stopped, It's like, no, it's stopped because they
Speaker 9: realized it's successful and now they could roll it out
Speaker 9: to the masses. That's why it's stopped, because it's no
Speaker 9: longer a consolidated experimentation with one to two to three
Speaker 9: patients and a small crew that you're working with. This
Speaker 9: is now proven, it's a reliable method, and now it's
Speaker 9: time to roll it out to the masses in the
Speaker 9: form of you know, the gigantic propaganda machine. I think
Speaker 9: we actually talked about that with you a little bit,
Speaker 9: Nick when you came on NEFLM des Squad. It was
Speaker 9: this idea that back in the day, they'd have to
Speaker 9: strap you to a chair, you know, clockwork orange style,
Speaker 9: after they kidnapped you from a whorehouse, and they'd peel
Speaker 9: your eyeballs open and they'd subject you to LSD and
Speaker 9: all of this subliminal messaging in this propaganda machine.
Speaker 1: They don't do that anymore.
Speaker 9: Now we're constantly inundating ourselves with a low grade psychedelic
Speaker 9: in the form of the marijuana that's been you know,
Speaker 9: it's had the THHD dialed up through the roof, and
Speaker 9: we're all constantly on this, Like I said, low grade psychedelic,
Speaker 9: and we're all constantly just we've got it in our hands.
Speaker 1: Here's a little ulture machine, right, it's.
Speaker 9: Just hitting us with all the propaganda and so, yeah,
Speaker 9: it doesn't stop. They just say, oh, it works, it's
Speaker 9: time to roll it out and get everybody hooked on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, you know, And it's crazy to think too,
Speaker 2: because there are a few names I can think of
Speaker 2: in particular that came off like the Guya network. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you guys are familiar with that, but
Speaker 2: like David will Ko, he.
Speaker 5: Was part of the little form.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's big on the law of one and
Speaker 2: it's all the same stuff. And it's crazy because he
Speaker 2: talks about the same stuff Poo Horrige talked about and
Speaker 2: Pooh Harrich was notorious for working with like the Pentagon,
Speaker 2: the CIA Naval Intelligence. So it's like, if you guys
Speaker 2: are gonna believe this stuff about the Laurel Canyon and
Speaker 2: all that being like designed and fed to us, why
Speaker 2: not this narrative of these extraterrestrial bird featherhead beings coming back.
Speaker 9: And Okay, and that's even just stepped in something Julia
Speaker 9: you do this morning. This morning, I'm listening to a TikTok.
Speaker 9: My wife is showing me a TikTok of a guy
Speaker 9: who's He's like, I don't know what to do. I
Speaker 9: guess I'm gonna share it with you, guys. I walked
Speaker 9: into the kitchen this morning and something happened. My head
Speaker 9: snapped back and my body became paralyzed, and I was
Speaker 9: suddenly transported to a different place, and this place is
Speaker 9: like a meeting, that's what he says.
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know, it was like a boardroom,
Speaker 1: like a meeting.
Speaker 9: And then he goes, it was like like a council, like, oh,
Speaker 9: that's funny. And then he goes, they're all talking about
Speaker 9: mankind and they're saying that people are waking up and
Speaker 9: the time is coming, right, and here he gets freaked
Speaker 9: out and somehow manages to snap out of it, looks
Speaker 9: over to his little dog. He's back in his kitchen.
Speaker 9: His dog looks concerned. Next thing, you know, it starts
Speaker 9: happening again. He feels that his body gets hot. He
Speaker 9: snaps into it. His head's looking at the ceiling, and
Speaker 9: he is now once again transported to this council, to
Speaker 9: this meeting. And that's the conversation. It just happens again. Basically,
Speaker 9: it's female voices, male voices. It seems to be, you know,
Speaker 9: not that many people, and they're talking about mankind's ascension
Speaker 9: and that we're all waking up and the time is coming.
Speaker 9: And then they even go, this one seems to be
Speaker 9: stronger than we thought. They always tell us that we're special.
Speaker 9: They always tell us there's nothing.
Speaker 2: Well, that's how they sell it to you, because you
Speaker 2: have to be special.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 9: I want to kind of bring it back for one
Speaker 9: second though, because Robbie said something earlier that was like
Speaker 9: we mold over it, but you were saying that who
Speaker 9: was it that was using the ice bath a tech?
Speaker 1: That was that Horridge?
Speaker 8: Yeah, pooharch In the Sacred Mushroom, he talks about the
Speaker 8: Siberian Shamans and how they would condition their bodies in
Speaker 8: order to be able to facilitate this astral travel, and
Speaker 8: one of the processes that he talks about is the
Speaker 8: ice path.
Speaker 9: Okay, so this is actually perfect because this is something
Speaker 9: that people aren't drawing a correlation to, and it's one
Speaker 9: of the correlations that we've drawn. I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 9: and say it, because there's more to what we're thinking
Speaker 9: about anyway, but.
Speaker 1: This is a piece of it. And it's basically that.
Speaker 9: In the telepathy tapes, for example, they're studying nonverbal autistic
Speaker 9: children and we're on YouTube. So I'm gonna use choice
Speaker 9: language here to not get you guys new, but there
Speaker 9: is a growing field of study that suggests that, you know,
Speaker 9: a certain medical intervention will lead to autism within children,
Speaker 9: and in fact, it's something that this administration is currently
Speaker 9: talking about. Right, and that's one thing. Let's put that
Speaker 9: on the table. Right, we have autistic children, how do
Speaker 9: they become autistic? It's open to speculation, but eventually it
Speaker 9: leads to some sort of telepathic powers. Right.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go montalk project, let's go mk ultra. What
Speaker 1: are we doing here?
Speaker 9: We're studying the suggestibility but also the potentiality for like
Speaker 9: latent psychic abilities and people. But how are we doing this?
Speaker 9: How are we mind controlling people? How are we splitting
Speaker 9: the mind? How are we revealing latent psychic ability? It's
Speaker 9: through trauma, right, So you're looking at one form of trauma,
Speaker 9: in the form of inoculations. You're looking at another form
Speaker 9: of trauma and like, let's say a sensationalized stranger things
Speaker 9: right where you're taking eleven and you're putting her through
Speaker 9: this thing so she develops these powers, or you're in
Speaker 9: a nice bath and I know that doesn't sound too intense,
Speaker 9: but what they all equate to is disassociation. Yeah, there's
Speaker 9: a disassociation, a dissociative id identity disorder that is at
Speaker 9: the root of being able to display these powers. Now,
Speaker 9: what I would say is that we've always been able
Speaker 9: to do it. But much like a blind person whose
Speaker 9: remaining senses become incredibly heightened, if you trap a child
Speaker 9: in their body because they're now nonverbal autistic, they're going
Speaker 9: to lean into whatever senses still exists for them that
Speaker 9: are available. So what we're seeing is weird because the
Speaker 9: narrative is such I'm going trying to do this, so
Speaker 9: I'll give it away too much, But the narrative.
Speaker 1: Is becoming.
Speaker 9: Down syndrome and autism almost seem like the next step
Speaker 9: in human evolution. You might even call it ascension, right,
Speaker 9: And that's a weird narrative because to me, a lot
Speaker 9: of that is birthed out of some form of trauma,
Speaker 9: especially if we come to find out, you know, soon
Speaker 9: because of RFK or something like that, that there really
Speaker 9: is something tremendously nefarious about these medical interventions that we
Speaker 9: give the children. It's a schedule that go all the
Speaker 9: way up to like sixty some odd, you know, injections
Speaker 9: before there are a certain age. So sure it's different
Speaker 9: ice bath inoculations and and you know, trauma based mind control.
Speaker 9: But trauma is the great connecting tissue and somehow we
Speaker 9: are getting to this point in this narrative where like
Speaker 9: this is indicative of ascension, like these are these are
Speaker 9: advanced evolutionary processes that we're going through. Just anecdotally, yesterday,
Speaker 9: top Is is doing his other show. It's a comedy show,
Speaker 9: Tower Gang. The telepathy tapes comes up anecdotally, and every
Speaker 9: single person on the show besides top goes, you know what, dude,
Speaker 9: I think autistic people are down syndrome people are like evolved.
Speaker 9: They're like like evolved forms, like they're the next step
Speaker 9: in evolution and.
Speaker 1: On the wall. So I don't really know about that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but it's like, wouldn't it be something if we
Speaker 9: all had that ability. It's just been stifled and there's
Speaker 9: been a real long con to try to have it
Speaker 9: re emerge under a different context.
Speaker 3: So I'm sure.
Speaker 2: Elon would agree with you, because they're always saying what
Speaker 2: a genius he is, and he's talking autistic and shit right.
Speaker 1: Right right of our most genius people are autists of
Speaker 1: some sort.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Poohrrich. He goes from that Sacred Mushroom book and
Speaker 8: then he writes Beyond Telepathy, which he's using mushrooms to
Speaker 8: basically try to bring about telepathy within people.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I really do think that there is some
Speaker 9: sort of narrative emerging, and you know, Pooh Harridge ended
Speaker 9: up leading us there.
Speaker 1: But all these different.
Speaker 9: Aspects all come to a cross roads, and that crossroad
Speaker 9: is like trauma based psychic abilities. But it's coming from everywhere, right,
Speaker 9: It's coming from like the mk ulture program, It's coming
Speaker 9: from the you know, the the Montalk Project. If you
Speaker 9: believe in the version that we get from Stranger Things,
Speaker 9: I know that's a sensationalized, fictional, you know, piece of art,
Speaker 9: but I also understand that much truth is told in fiction,
Speaker 9: and that even the trope of like the little bald
Speaker 9: girl in the medical gown stems from stories of people
Speaker 9: that were like local and claim to have found like
Speaker 9: kids walking around and you know these once again, it's
Speaker 9: all anecdotal stories, but it all stems from some you know,
Speaker 9: nugget of truth. And I don't know, I've been feeling
Speaker 9: a lot lately like there is this big repackaging. We
Speaker 9: talked about it a little bit on nephluin Death Squad.
Speaker 9: Well with the both of you guys go head top.
Speaker 4: He let's explain the repackaging part, because I feel like
Speaker 4: that's h that this this might be like one of
Speaker 4: the unique things that we've seen from the heart stuff,
Speaker 4: because you'll get information from everywhere, but the idea of the.
Speaker 1: Nine that he's channeling.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: They claim to be the Egyptian Aniad, and they give
Speaker 4: him these specific names.
Speaker 1: And we also know that like.
Speaker 4: These entities, these age old entities don't don't particularly like
Speaker 4: being called by their actual name because then they can
Speaker 4: be controlled. You'll see it with like Solomon's temple, will
Speaker 4: He'll have their sigil and then they'll draw circle around
Speaker 4: their sigil, meaning that they are now encapsulated in it,
Speaker 4: so they could I guess the idea would be that
Speaker 4: they could control it. I don't know, Nick, you might
Speaker 4: know better than I do about this kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, with the with the goatia, Yeah, I think it's
Speaker 5: more or less of like with yourself, and I think
Speaker 5: the power of angels or angels help you will be
Speaker 5: able to render the demons. Yeah, you have the sigils.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you'll even wear them on your on your garb
Speaker 5: to even show that like I'm controlling you.
Speaker 1: Right right?
Speaker 4: So Uh, Anyway, I guess it's a good point to
Speaker 4: bring it to, Like, these guys don't really want to
Speaker 4: know their names because there's a lot of power in
Speaker 4: their names, so they're constantly rebranding. And uh, when we
Speaker 4: hear about the nine. This is another thing that started
Speaker 4: to clue me in about this nine. Like a heard
Speaker 4: it on Merkel Show. There's a guy doing a documentary
Speaker 4: about like Skinwalker Ranch and then he brings up this
Speaker 4: council of nine and I'm like, oh, right, the first
Speaker 4: time I heard it, and then it comes up again.
Speaker 4: You hear it in Ah, well, obviously this the Egyptian
Speaker 4: in head there's nine of them. Greek mythology there's the
Speaker 4: nine muses. In Norse mythology, you have the nine worlds,
Speaker 4: like nil, fem as, guard, mid guard, shit like that.
Speaker 4: In Chinese mythology, now I just started getting crazy with
Speaker 4: it and I started searching. I was like Chinese mythology nine.
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, there's a nine dragons. They are
Speaker 4: the serpentine dragons that guide you throughout, you know, into
Speaker 4: the afterlife. In Hindu mythology, you've got the Novgawa, the
Speaker 4: nine celestial bodies, which are they all have the same
Speaker 4: number and they all have the same characteristics meso American mythology.
Speaker 4: And then even satan throwing Satanism Levey and Satanism has
Speaker 4: their uh, their Council of nine is their governing body
Speaker 4: that's below they're like a, I guess they're I don't
Speaker 4: know what they'd call their head person, but below them
Speaker 4: that in their church structure there are nine and they
Speaker 4: call them they sit on the Council of nine. So
Speaker 4: I'm just like, yeah, of course, it's just fucking another
Speaker 4: thing to put it in my pocket. Here with these
Speaker 4: entities and like the the veneration or this idea of
Speaker 4: nine you have also have you know, Tesla is talking
Speaker 4: about three, six nine, So three is a I forget
Speaker 4: what that is. Six is the number of man, and
Speaker 4: nine is the number of like the ascension the stars. Right,
Speaker 4: So there there has to be something here that we're
Speaker 4: looking at that this number is significant, and it continues
Speaker 4: to pop up. The description of these things, or at
Speaker 4: least the way that they behave are all the same,
Speaker 4: and what they're telling the people that they're coming in
Speaker 4: contact with is all the same stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is that one.
Speaker 9: Actually their shout out market mark was something that top
Speaker 9: and I heard that's a cult. Yeah, yeah, Well we
Speaker 9: have a buddy, Jose Gallison, who does a lot of
Speaker 9: work on the order of nine Angles, and and we're
Speaker 9: just insisting, like, no, there's got to be a connection there.
Speaker 9: It's a satanic cult. They have their sigils and their
Speaker 9: signs and everything otherwise, everything about them is inherently satanic
Speaker 9: right in the way that they present this cult. But
Speaker 9: for some reason people don't think it has anything to
Speaker 9: do with nine Angels. And I think there is really
Speaker 9: something there, but I kind of feel like the you know,
Speaker 9: just to go back to that rebranding thing, if these
Speaker 9: things really are agile entities, well then I start to
Speaker 9: look at like NASA very skeptically, and everybody looks at
Speaker 9: NASA very skeptically rightfully, so they do quite a bit
Speaker 9: of lying, right And so you know, Werner von Braun
Speaker 9: having been taken from Operation paper Clip Jack Parsons, he
Speaker 9: works over at Jet Propulsion Laboratories. They're hand in hand
Speaker 9: with NASA, and so you really can't separate that. Like
Speaker 9: I don't want to just say occultism. I want to
Speaker 9: say like seeking of spiritual knowledge from these technological industries,
Speaker 9: like a NASA or something like that. And I look
Speaker 9: at those fourmentioned institutions, and then I look at Hollywood
Speaker 9: and how they've given us like this alien narrative over
Speaker 9: all these years. And then of course the way that
Speaker 9: plays with like LAMB and the Amalansh workings, and you know,
Speaker 9: Aleister Crowley communicating with these entities, and they're all very
Speaker 9: in setually connected, and I do just feel like what
Speaker 9: we've got here is a long con, a long con
Speaker 9: to rebrand them as what I was talking about before,
Speaker 9: our benign space brothers that are here to you know,
Speaker 9: liberate us.
Speaker 4: In one way, that theme pops up as well. The
Speaker 4: we start to get like pretty intergalactic space traveler stuff.
Speaker 4: When he meets Euri Geller, when he brings them over
Speaker 4: from Israel in the seventies. That's when we get this
Speaker 4: UFO boom and Uri Geller apparently is able to summon
Speaker 4: I think, I don't know much about you, Yella.
Speaker 1: He's able to summon UFO.
Speaker 3: So he's so Uri Yeller.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 8: In the Israeli military, he was inducted as an Israeli spy.
Speaker 8: He has you know, you just have to wonder because
Speaker 8: the links between all the spy networks and the UFO
Speaker 8: and then the drugs as far as different hallucinogens, and
Speaker 8: how they're kind of piling all these things into, you know,
Speaker 8: one kind of programming unit.
Speaker 2: He was supposedly able to bend spoons as well and
Speaker 2: had some kind of telepathic power. And from what I know, Uri,
Speaker 2: Geller and Andrea were besties. But they also had a
Speaker 2: bestI named Peter Herkos, who was also a supposed psychic
Speaker 2: to the stars, and he was in and about the
Speaker 2: Laurel Canyon and Roman Polanski actually asked Peter Herkos to
Speaker 2: come investigate the Tate murders to see who the real
Speaker 2: murderer was, Like, we didn't all know it was fucking
Speaker 2: Cia Charles Manson. But anyways, Peter Herkos was called in
Speaker 2: on that, and then later on they found out that Uri,
Speaker 2: Andrea and Peter Herkos were all tight with Anton Levy.
Speaker 2: So if you want to talk about some you know, propaganda, Satanism,
Speaker 2: angle of nine, whatever that I mean, it's it's all
Speaker 2: tied together.
Speaker 1: It's so funny how all these guys were friends.
Speaker 9: I just wish I could be a fly in the
Speaker 9: wall during those few decades where I could see these
Speaker 9: guys because it's such a small world, like you, I
Speaker 9: don't know, you learn about these guys independently, and then
Speaker 9: all of a sudden you find this connective tissue when
Speaker 9: you realize, yeah, they're all hanging in the same circles
Speaker 9: and they and they kind of all birthed our modern
Speaker 9: day intelligence operations that were still subjected.
Speaker 2: To times one hundred one hundred.
Speaker 8: So interestingly, when you look at your yeller and all
Speaker 8: the you know, he would change the hands on the
Speaker 8: watch in front of people, he would make things disap
Speaker 8: like one time he was looking at a Darrener pistol
Speaker 8: and it disappeared.
Speaker 3: In front of him.
Speaker 8: But the the entities that they were commune that you're
Speaker 8: a yeller was communicating with being this this body of nine.
Speaker 8: They were saying there in the future, they're planning these
Speaker 8: events hundreds of thousands of years ahead of time and
Speaker 8: just and it's interesting because he talks about Pooharich talks
Speaker 8: about getting engulfed in a beam of light and that
Speaker 8: there was no time and it was essentially like, you know,
Speaker 8: only the things that were moved in time were the
Speaker 8: differences we see, and that very much compliments what Philip K.
Speaker 8: Dick saw with the beam of light and thinking that
Speaker 8: it was still the fall.
Speaker 3: Of Rome and modern time.
Speaker 8: And then that gets into the Black Night satellite because
Speaker 8: oh yeah, because well it was this idea that this
Speaker 8: pink beam shot down from this black light satellite that
Speaker 8: kind of programmed Philip K. Dick, right, Whereas Poohrich talks
Speaker 8: about this this beam that he's engulfed in, and he
Speaker 8: also talks about an eight thousand year old satellite that
Speaker 8: was put in place that's circling the Earth that's programming.
Speaker 3: So both Philip K.
Speaker 8: Dick and Pooharch are both and they're both tied in
Speaker 8: with mk ulture. They're both tied in with a lot
Speaker 8: of this, you know, similar type stuff.
Speaker 9: Did you see that recently there was a I don't know,
Speaker 9: I've tried to validate it and it's, you know, it's
Speaker 9: just one of those things that's a little bit slippery.
Speaker 1: But there's a video going around.
Speaker 9: It's it's going viral on x right now, and it's
Speaker 9: allegedly a leak from twenty eighteen from NASA of another
Speaker 9: POV of the Black Night satellite, and it actually moves
Speaker 9: right beneath the space station or whatever. So you get
Speaker 9: this really elongated you know, POV. It's like an eight
Speaker 9: minute video, I think. And the thing is in the distance,
Speaker 9: it's very small, but eventually it passes underneath, and it
Speaker 9: is incredibly symmetrical. If this is real, it's incredibly symmetrical.
Speaker 9: It looks exactly like a ship, like it looks like
Speaker 9: something would occupy it. It doesn't look like, you know, a
Speaker 9: kind of a chaotic rock structure, not at all. It
Speaker 9: looks just like a ship. It looks like a really
Speaker 9: cool ship designed from like a sci fi film. And
Speaker 9: so I just find that fascinating that if that is real,
Speaker 9: what seems like the Black Knight satellite is making a
Speaker 9: re emergence in sort of the conspiracies get right.
Speaker 7: Didn't Whenever Barich was writing the Mushroom book, he was
Speaker 7: in Wahaka and he was actually doing rituals with the
Speaker 7: Chanitos or.
Speaker 3: Yes, so now interesting, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 7: So the Chinitos, I think they're from Wahaka, and I
Speaker 7: believe in some of the stuff that we have read.
Speaker 7: They believe in like a father son, mother moon or
Speaker 7: something like that, which is which looking at some of
Speaker 7: the oldest grim wares that some of the bases of
Speaker 7: the hermeticism and alchemical theories, and the fact that theos
Speaker 7: are I'm probably saying that wrong. The fact that they
Speaker 7: kind of have that ritual predates some of obviously pre Columbian, right,
Speaker 7: but it predates a lot of the stuff with alchemical stuff,
Speaker 7: so they're they're also doing that, and then to have
Speaker 7: par it's doing that. But what's interesting with your nine
Speaker 7: is that the Machika, which are the Aztecs, they have
Speaker 7: a concept of nine lords of the Night. I think
Speaker 7: it has smoking mirror or a lord of fire, all
Speaker 7: that stuff, and then they also have the nine underworld
Speaker 7: as well. But they didn't believe in a hell. They
Speaker 7: just believe in a lower type of dimensions.
Speaker 2: Like Dante's Inferno type shit, like there's seven like nine
Speaker 2: layers or something like that.
Speaker 7: It's more I think it's like the lowest the lowest
Speaker 7: heaven was like on the moon or something like that.
Speaker 7: It has. They don't have a pint of they don't
Speaker 7: have a concept of hell. They just have levels of dimensions.
Speaker 2: Are you talking about Wall Hawka, Mexico? You were talking
Speaker 2: that's what you were talking about, which I came across
Speaker 2: something about that where there they were really into like
Speaker 2: blood letting and ship and like blood rituals, and so
Speaker 2: that makes it. And so they're practicing some dark stuff too.
Speaker 7: And Wajaka is Central Mexico, and this is where a
Speaker 7: majority of all of your top tier belief systems will
Speaker 7: venture to more mincime ye go down to not specifically
Speaker 7: this space space in Mexico, but to that that region
Speaker 7: of South Mexico.
Speaker 2: It's like a granddaddy religion type of basic pillar. Sure well,
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say real quick too, because I
Speaker 2: pulled up my nose from when I covered this guy
Speaker 2: and he was investigating some type of low frequency radiation
Speaker 2: beam that the Soviet Union had been testing, and he said, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: I was going to say. He said it did all
Speaker 2: kinds of crazy shit, and I think they're still probably
Speaker 2: using it.
Speaker 1: Let's bring it up, let's fuck it. I mean as well.
Speaker 8: So before we move on, I want to I want
Speaker 8: to talk about Hearts and the Watch in the mushrooms.
Speaker 8: He Pouhartz was going to the New York Library and
Speaker 8: he was researching mushrooms and the librarian was like, Oh,
Speaker 8: that's weird. There's only one other guy that's researching mushrooms
Speaker 8: and that's Gordon Wasson.
Speaker 3: And Gordon Wasson.
Speaker 8: Was the guy that went down to South America on
Speaker 8: the MK Ultra ticket. We have the receipts for all
Speaker 8: that with Albert Hoffman, who Pooharch was training under. They
Speaker 8: talk about in the Uri Yeller book and basically they
Speaker 8: were getting those mushrooms specifically for the beginnings of MK ultra.
Speaker 8: So it's all tied in. Yeah, so it was going
Speaker 8: down there in the fifties, fifty two, fifty five. But
Speaker 8: Gordon Wasson, he ended up writing the first article on
Speaker 8: using psychedelic mushrooms that the Loose Brothers who were tied
Speaker 8: in with the military industrial Complex basically promoted through Life
Speaker 8: magazine as the beginning of mkltry. And you know, there's
Speaker 8: a cover and it says what it says something teenage
Speaker 8: allowances or something like that, and then that says, you know,
Speaker 8: something South American mushrooms. But yeah, this is all tied
Speaker 8: in with MK ultra and the intelligence services. And again,
Speaker 8: you know it's all.
Speaker 9: Beautiful because it's just to reiterate it. I don't worry,
Speaker 9: I'm not going out of tangent top. But just to
Speaker 9: reiterate it. Just the idea that this guy is almost
Speaker 9: in some ways the inception of the machine that's you know,
Speaker 9: geared towards us.
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 9: I would argue that in twenty twenty five, we're seeing
Speaker 9: the culmination of all of that work, all those generations,
Speaker 9: all those decades of work.
Speaker 4: One So look, you mentioned Philip K. Dick, and I
Speaker 4: was like, I have him in my notes as well.
Speaker 4: He's an author, a sci fi author. He claims to
Speaker 4: have been abducted.
Speaker 1: I guess they always are a sci fi author, aren't they.
Speaker 9: El Rod Hubbard the most prolific, Yeah, Steve, Yeah.
Speaker 3: He's sort of a prophet.
Speaker 4: He gets that nosis from a pink ray of light,
Speaker 4: which you said that Buharich also experience. But here's what's interesting.
Speaker 4: All of his experiences are triggered by you'll never guess
Speaker 4: what a fucking dental surgery.
Speaker 3: Ah, he gets it.
Speaker 4: He gets a dental surgery. All of a sudden, he
Speaker 4: kind of starts going off the rails and getting these
Speaker 4: I don't know downloads where he's writing these books. Now
Speaker 4: I have a theory as well with this dental surgery stuff.
Speaker 4: I started to look into l Ron Hubbard who's sort
Speaker 4: of connected in this kind of like loosely connected.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I was like, how did scientology start? I was like, well,
Speaker 4: el Ron Hubbard and like, you know, right right before
Speaker 4: the fifties, he he almost died. Guess what he was doing.
Speaker 4: He was having fucking dental surgery. And then after that
Speaker 4: he came back with all these cosmic truths and created
Speaker 4: this religion. Now that it's kind of like basically a
Speaker 4: honeypop for celebrity. So I'm like, I don't know where
Speaker 4: to put that, but it's certainly floating around in my
Speaker 4: mind as we continue to to like move move forward
Speaker 4: with the story. Another thing before we get to the
Speaker 4: ELF waves, the extra extremely low frequency waves I guess
Speaker 4: you'd call them in South America. In Brazil, Uh, he
Speaker 4: comes up again, doctor doctor andre Japuharich because there's a
Speaker 4: guy named doctor Arago. He's a his name is Jose
Speaker 4: Pedro de Freitas. Uh, that's what he was born as.
Speaker 4: In the twenties in Brazil, he was a taxi driver
Speaker 4: and he had no formal medical training or he didn't
Speaker 4: have a license, nothing like that. Around the fifties, he
Speaker 4: claims that he channels this German this dead German surgeon
Speaker 4: named doctor Fritz, and he starts performing surgeries while he's
Speaker 4: in this trance state. They call him the Doctor of
Speaker 4: the Rusty Knife because he's successfully taking out people's tumors.
Speaker 4: He's giving he's just like looking at them, giving them advice,
Speaker 4: and people from all around Brazil are coming to see
Speaker 4: this guy. He eventually gets shut down by the Brazil government.
Speaker 4: But from what I've heard and what I've said, there's
Speaker 4: even video of him doing stuff.
Speaker 1: He healed a blind girl.
Speaker 4: But of course during his uh, during his uh, you know,
Speaker 4: little tenure there as a doctor, and when he stepped
Speaker 4: away from the taxi driving business, Andreja Puharas pays him
Speaker 4: a visit, right, and it was under his studies.
Speaker 1: He says, yeah, this guy's legit. He's doing uh, he's
Speaker 1: he's doing the right thing.
Speaker 9: And then Poohara kind of becomes like a nick Fury, right,
Speaker 9: he's like gathering the psychic avengers.
Speaker 8: He cut like a two inch by four inch tumor
Speaker 8: out of his arm and then basically no antibiotics, no nothing,
Speaker 8: told him don't worry about it, and healed up just fine.
Speaker 8: So they say, yeah, it's.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know what I think a lot of the
Speaker 9: the we touched on it before, right, Juliet you said it.
Speaker 9: It's like, in order to get you to do this thing,
Speaker 9: they have to convince.
Speaker 1: You that you're special.
Speaker 9: A lot of the people, it's like you're you're struck
Speaker 9: by this profound experience. Here in the West, we tell
Speaker 9: you that pay no mind to the spiritual realm, and
Speaker 9: there are many of us who don't even believe that
Speaker 9: it exists. Certainly, scientism has you know, materialism has gripped
Speaker 9: all of our industries that would stand any chance at
Speaker 9: like detecting a spiritual realm. And so you start from
Speaker 9: a place of not even you know this shit doesn't exist.
Speaker 9: Then when you have an experience because you don't believe
Speaker 9: that it was real previously, it's incredibly profound, and you
Speaker 9: mistake that profound experience as this must then be the truth.
Speaker 9: So on Nephlum des squad. I mean, it's a Christian show,
Speaker 9: and we do caution people. And the reason that we
Speaker 9: caution people it's not like we're sitting here like crystals
Speaker 9: are evil, or remote viewing is evil, or.
Speaker 1: Actual projection is evil.
Speaker 9: No, actually, I think these are natural things that you
Speaker 9: know exist within the human condition and also exist within
Speaker 9: the realm that we inhabit. The thing is, we've been
Speaker 9: stripped of the map we used to understand these things
Speaker 9: to a much higher degree. If you go into the
Speaker 9: ocean or you go into the woods, you know that
Speaker 9: you're gonna find a plethora of things. Clownfish are pretty cool,
Speaker 9: coral reef don't touch them. It's beautiful, but don't touch them.
Speaker 9: You'll destroy them. Also, stay the hell away from sharks, right,
Speaker 9: And the same thing with the woods, chipmunks, all that shit.
Speaker 9: It's adorable. You could forage, you could find plant life.
Speaker 9: Watch out for bears and their cubs. You don't want
Speaker 9: to be near them. Well, imagine if bears were like
Speaker 9: thousands of years old and incredibly intelligent and know way
Speaker 9: more about you than you know about them, and they
Speaker 9: know exactly how to deceive you.
Speaker 1: That is the problem.
Speaker 9: The spiritual realm is filled with a plethora of different entities,
Speaker 9: let's just call them entities. Some of them aren't the
Speaker 9: biggest fans of us, and some of them are excellent
Speaker 9: at deception. Excellent at deception, and all it takes, it
Speaker 9: turns out, is to just tell us that we're special,
Speaker 9: and then that's fucking it. We'll fall for whatever it is.
Speaker 9: So show us something shock and awe, and then tell
Speaker 9: us that the reason that we saw it, the reason
Speaker 9: that we perceived it, is because we're unique, we're special, we're.
Speaker 1: Meant for something, and then you have us. We're so
Speaker 1: simple in that way.
Speaker 9: So, like I said, it's a Christian show, we're not
Speaker 9: just blanketly dismissing things as evil.
Speaker 1: We're cautioning dummies who don't have.
Speaker 9: A map of the spiritual realm, who up until very
Speaker 9: recently didn't think that it existed at all. And I
Speaker 9: would even say that our understanding has been stripped purposefully
Speaker 9: so that we could repackage and rebrand and ship it
Speaker 9: back out to the people under a different context.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I consider myself a Christian, So I'm
Speaker 2: right there with you guys. And I've had people talk
Speaker 2: to me about zodiac stuff and you know, taro and crystals,
Speaker 2: and I mean, if anything, you can just maybe say
Speaker 2: that they can be tools in your tool bag, but
Speaker 2: they're not supposed to be worshiped. They're not supposed to
Speaker 2: become religion in any way. But it gets all like
Speaker 2: cloudy and weird, you know, because everything's like demonized, which
Speaker 2: I try not to do, but I guess the whole
Speaker 2: thing is like they operate on basis of ancient knowledge
Speaker 2: that we are completely unaware of. And if you read
Speaker 2: the Bible at any length, you're gonna find magic all
Speaker 2: throughout the Bible. But they understood the like the Keys
Speaker 2: of Solomon and stuff like this. It's in there, but
Speaker 2: you have to understand it. And you know, I don't
Speaker 2: understand the Keys of Solomon, but obviously he did. And
Speaker 2: it's like Nick said, he had like the sigils and
Speaker 2: the angels and he had all this stuff. But I mean,
Speaker 2: it's it's such a rabbit hole really when think about it,
Speaker 2: and it's been weaponized against us, like we could learn
Speaker 2: this stuff, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Uh, there's actually two major problems with it.
Speaker 9: One is the one that I just laid out, where
Speaker 9: they can deceive us, But the other one is like, well,
Speaker 9: what happens if you really do know your shit? What
Speaker 9: happens if you really are clever enough to navigate this?
Speaker 9: What happens if you become so adept that you can
Speaker 9: create sigils and trap these ancient entities into doing your
Speaker 9: bidding absolute power corrupts absolutely what's wrong with it? So
Speaker 9: it's like a losing battle either way. It's like I
Speaker 9: would say, arm yourself with the knowledge, and you know,
Speaker 9: if you're going to go and explore these things, I
Speaker 9: would recommend going with Jesus Christ because literally, we have
Speaker 9: authority over scorpions and serpients serpents through his name. So
Speaker 9: I take that as to mean we have authority through
Speaker 9: Jesus Christ's name, almost like a spell over these entities
Speaker 9: that inhabit these realms, if they are in fact negative.
Speaker 1: But on the other end of it, if you just
Speaker 1: go too far, well.
Speaker 9: Then you're gonna Hey, what happens when human beings figure
Speaker 9: out that we can identify the building blocks of this
Speaker 9: realm and then we can manipulate them.
Speaker 1: It's like, what's the building blocks?
Speaker 9: Oh way, well, it's sacred geometry, it's symbolism, it's numerology,
Speaker 9: it's all these different things.
Speaker 1: They are real.
Speaker 9: They are just like it's more of an observation of
Speaker 9: the nature of our realm. But once we are aware
Speaker 9: that they're there, there are going to be huge swaths
Speaker 9: of us that seek to manipulate that. And then what
Speaker 9: you know, what I mean, so it's like, I understand
Speaker 9: why we're cautioned against it. I don't think any of
Speaker 9: us are equipped to have that kind of power and
Speaker 9: to not use it to our own benefit, and that's
Speaker 9: where everything starts to go wrong. So it's you know,
Speaker 9: I just wanted to put that out there because I
Speaker 9: know a lot of Christians will just dismiss these things
Speaker 9: of like of the devil. I don't even think that's true.
Speaker 9: I don't think these entities can create. I think that's
Speaker 9: why they commission us constantly. They inspire us as the muses,
Speaker 9: They whisper to us, they nudge us, they give us ideas,
Speaker 9: and then we create them create.
Speaker 2: They can't crash That's exactly it. You're crushing it. That's
Speaker 2: exactly how I feel too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And they but what they do is they corrupt and
Speaker 9: they invert. So they will take spiritual principles and laws
Speaker 9: that the creator put here, who created this universe, and
Speaker 9: they will twist them in a way and obfuscate their
Speaker 9: meaning and and bastardize the intention of why they're there
Speaker 9: in the first place.
Speaker 2: Well, if you look at cult leaders, that's the first
Speaker 2: thing they do. Make you feel special. Do your little
Speaker 2: magic trick and then the next thing, you know, your
Speaker 2: drink and flavor aid somewhere on Jonas.
Speaker 9: They also love bomb you, right, They love bombing you
Speaker 9: right right. That is like the galactic Federation of Light.
Speaker 9: I don't know if you ever. They're like dear ones.
Speaker 9: That's how they start. They call you ones, like we
Speaker 9: are all the one. That's just like a how do
Speaker 9: we convince like all of them that they're special? Just
Speaker 9: just call them all ones? And I know that nothing
Speaker 9: you're making any God, just call them all ones. And
Speaker 9: so that's what they do. They start off.
Speaker 1: They're like deer ones, and it's always like this, I
Speaker 1: don't love anybody that I don't know. I'm just sorry.
Speaker 1: That's just how I am.
Speaker 9: I might like you, I might wish you well, but
Speaker 9: I don't love anybody that I don't know, not in
Speaker 9: a real intimate way.
Speaker 1: So whenever somebody comes over, I've watched love bombing.
Speaker 9: My wife used to be a Jehovah witness and she
Speaker 9: tells me, yeah, when you first show up, they like
Speaker 9: celebrate you, like you made the best decision and your
Speaker 9: special and that's why you're here. You're one of the
Speaker 9: one hundred and forty four thousand that are gonna be
Speaker 9: whisked away, you know, and go with Jesus when the
Speaker 9: when the time comes. And it's like everything is about
Speaker 9: making you special. So yeah, it's it's a it's a
Speaker 9: way to let your guard down, and it's it's almost
Speaker 9: embarrassing that we keep.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So something that Nick said to me one time
Speaker 2: that's always stuck with me, isn't don't they say in
Speaker 2: like occultism or something, I'm a man among men, Like
Speaker 2: they make that distinction, like you're special, you're a man
Speaker 2: above men or something like that. Isn't that right, Nick?
Speaker 5: Yes? Yeah, even in the Gnostic mess you guys says
Speaker 5: I'm a man a moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: What I find significant about that is it's kind of
Speaker 9: the opposite of what the Bible tells you. The Bible
Speaker 9: tells you that you're kind of a sinful retard, and like, look,
Speaker 9: I don't know about anybody else, but I know all
Speaker 9: the ways in which I'm flawed, And that's kind of
Speaker 9: why we lead with this like retard gash line. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I guess you could call it humble. I mean, it's
Speaker 9: weird because in some ways we aren't humble, but I'm
Speaker 9: acutely aware that I don't know shit, right, I don't
Speaker 9: know shit, and that because I don't know shit, I
Speaker 9: am easily deceived, and so I have to stave that off.
Speaker 9: There's a lot of people, you guys know you like
Speaker 9: you do a show and like the audience because you
Speaker 9: say something that aligns with them.
Speaker 1: They're like, you're great, You're killing it. This is important.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if it's important.
Speaker 9: I know that I'm retarded and maybe sometime I say
Speaker 9: some good shit, but other than that, that's as far
Speaker 9: as I'm willing to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: And as a conspiracy theory, you almost have to believe
Speaker 2: that everybody's out to get you at some point. I
Speaker 2: mean I do. I'm like, everyone's lying to me. This
Speaker 2: is all a conspiracy. The government is involved. Get away
Speaker 2: from me. I hold everyone at like arms distance now
Speaker 2: because you just don't. I can't even listen to music anymore,
Speaker 2: especially Laurel Canyon stuff. I'm like, God, I just want
Speaker 2: to shoot myself and there to hear it.
Speaker 9: Everything has a message, Everything has a way it wants
Speaker 9: me to behave. I want to move you guys, everything,
Speaker 9: because you guys all have a really unique perspective. And
Speaker 9: and you know, typically we're the host, we don't get
Speaker 9: to uh you know, I guess well here, let me
Speaker 9: put it to you this way. Earlier on in the show,
Speaker 9: I said that it's strange that, like Rogan is he's
Speaker 9: pushing these float tanks.
Speaker 1: We know that that's from John C. Lilly who was jerking.
Speaker 9: Off dolphins, and and we know that MK Ultra took
Speaker 9: a big interest in his work, right, And it's very
Speaker 9: much the same thing. It's sensory deprivation, but it's also
Speaker 9: LSD or psychedelics, and so Rogan injects that into the culture.
Speaker 1: And there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 9: By the way, there's so many sensory deprivation tank wellness
Speaker 9: centers I don't know what you would call them that
Speaker 9: attribute their inspiration to Joe Rogan. And he says that,
Speaker 9: so we know that this is true.
Speaker 7: Thing.
Speaker 9: Okay, what else has he done? He's also highly popularized.
Speaker 9: I mean, he is responsible for swaths of white people
Speaker 9: going to the jungle and doing Ayahuascar, right, I.
Speaker 1: Mean swaths and swaths.
Speaker 9: And also you know dimethyl trip to mean and he's
Speaker 9: done a strange thing where he's introduced these two spiritual,
Speaker 9: very very spiritual things into the cultural zeitgeist. But he's
Speaker 9: removed the spirituality from it. He doesn't really talk about that, right,
Speaker 9: It's more like, well, what about the psychological benefits, you
Speaker 9: know people that are yeah, yeah, what about anxiety? What
Speaker 9: about depression? What about PTSD? These things can help, Right,
Speaker 9: So he's done that. But also the dude is responsible
Speaker 9: for taking the Telepathy tapes from a rather unknown podcast
Speaker 9: to number one in the world. Number one in the world.
Speaker 9: They beat him, they took his slot. Joe Rogan was
Speaker 9: number one for the longest time, all of a sudden,
Speaker 9: and then when you start to look into the telepathy tapes,
Speaker 9: just given what I said before, right about the Montalk project,
Speaker 9: about mk Ultra, this is all trauma based mind control
Speaker 9: and latent psychic abilities, right, that's the name of the game.
Speaker 9: Why is the biggest show in the world and so
Speaker 9: arguably one of the most culturally impactful shows in the
Speaker 9: world repackaging and giving us MK Ultra narratives.
Speaker 8: I think it's interesting because when you go back to
Speaker 8: the ideas of the Dionysian acting schools and the beginning
Speaker 8: of theater, and the idea of like there's a whole
Speaker 8: class of actors with Robert de Nio, Danny DeVito that
Speaker 8: basically were in this acting school where they and Johnny
Speaker 8: depuc It too, where they've basically become the character and
Speaker 8: they embody that character, but they're possessed.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: But one of the tenets of that acting school is
Speaker 8: the idea that you're not necessarily teaching people through the
Speaker 8: play itself, but by the nuance of the character and
Speaker 8: who the character is themselves and how they view the world,
Speaker 8: kind of like Holden Cawfield, you know, within Catcher and
Speaker 8: the Rye. But it's this idea of teaching through subtlety
Speaker 8: and nuance, so you're teaching through who the character themselves
Speaker 8: are rather than what they're projecting.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I see that a lot. Joe Rogan does
Speaker 9: that masterfully. Actually, if you ever pay attention to the
Speaker 9: way that he himself will not espouse a certain theory,
Speaker 9: not that often at least. Instead, what he'll play is
Speaker 9: like the unwilling participant in a dialogue where he starts
Speaker 9: off skeptically and then leads his guest into a way
Speaker 9: where they shine right crush. He'll set them up and
Speaker 9: let him knock it out of the park, and then
Speaker 9: by the end of it, he's still not too sure,
Speaker 9: but he's done the job right. So to the audience,
Speaker 9: you're almost sitting there going, what do you mean, Rogan? Look,
Speaker 9: didn't you listen to what this guy just said? He
Speaker 9: said all the things, but he's allowed he's setting up
Speaker 9: a set of circumstances for you to respond that way, right,
Speaker 9: So you look at him almost frustrated.
Speaker 1: Why aren't you seeing this thing?
Speaker 9: There was a time where Rogan used to talk about,
Speaker 9: you know, whatever it is flat Earth or you know,
Speaker 9: pizzagate or something like that, and then he stops it.
Speaker 9: Now he's reemerging with those concepts he just had, like
Speaker 9: Ian carol on and all this other shit, and I
Speaker 9: just think that he is You're right, Robbie.
Speaker 1: It's not like we were not.
Speaker 9: As receptive to somebody that walks out onto the stage
Speaker 9: and does a ted talk. Instead, we're more receptive to
Speaker 9: somebody who we perceive as on our level intellectually or
Speaker 9: maybe even beneath us intellectually, and then you watch them
Speaker 9: receive the information, and in a way, it's like a
Speaker 9: stand in for you, Like Joe Rogan is a stand
Speaker 9: in for the audience, and if Joe Rogan can be
Speaker 9: convinced or inundated with information, then it's you know, it's
Speaker 9: happening to you too, and it's happening to the tune
Speaker 9: of millions of people.
Speaker 7: Well, he's always interjected. Raven, Joe Rogan and Nick did
Speaker 7: a show on this. Joe Rogan got his start from
Speaker 7: Aubrey Marcus and it was Aubrey Mark who actually inserted
Speaker 7: the idea of psychedelics and going in South America and
Speaker 7: doing all that. Look at Aubrey Marcus's dad, he has
Speaker 7: ties Stanford Esslon as well as all of those think
Speaker 7: tanks as well. So that's the connection that then and
Speaker 7: then as well as not only his dad, but his
Speaker 7: dad had passed away. But you have Stanford and you
Speaker 7: have a psychedelic startup companies that have a lot of
Speaker 7: ties to the current administration's funders.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, a lot all.
Speaker 2: The time too, because it's like, oh, I was just
Speaker 2: gonna say, I say it all the time because people
Speaker 2: it's like people forget that he is an actor, But
Speaker 2: it's like this guy he used to host Fear Factory, right,
Speaker 2: he is an actor. He used to host Freaking Fear Factory. Okay,
Speaker 2: So how is this guy who used to host this
Speaker 2: show getting people to get supplements and put stuff into
Speaker 2: their body? I don't even get that. Like, before I
Speaker 2: really got on the Joe Rogan thing, he got me
Speaker 2: because I was like, I need to be taking these
Speaker 2: medicinal mushrooms and I got like mushroom coffee and mushroom tinkstures,
Speaker 2: and Joe Rogan said, Joe Rogan, Well, who the hell
Speaker 2: is Joe Roe He used to host Fear Factory. Like
Speaker 2: this guy is a nobody?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Are they trying to sell all these mushroom products to
Speaker 8: institute and bring about telepathy and people?
Speaker 2: Man, it's just weird to me, you know. And he's
Speaker 2: he's like the top dog on him and it's like
Speaker 2: used code Joe Rogan to you know, get this stuff
Speaker 2: and put it in your body, Like who are you dude?
Speaker 7: You come from from the startup of Aubry Marcus, from.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, from Haunted.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I literally take all the shit that I talk about
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan.
Speaker 9: I literally take Alpha Brain every I don't miss it,
Speaker 9: it goes into every show. I also take stupid fucking
Speaker 9: mushroom supplements. I don't think they do need to be
Speaker 9: perfectly honest, I don't, but I take like a litany
Speaker 9: of shit. I take like vitamin Z B twelve complex,
Speaker 9: a bunch of shit alpha brain, fake mushroom crap. I'm sure,
Speaker 9: uh yeah, And that was massively inspired by Joe Rogan.
Speaker 9: I don't think that there's a way to pin down
Speaker 9: and actually show somebody. Maybe one day we will, We'll
Speaker 9: have a graph or something to just show the impact
Speaker 9: that that show has had on Western culture.
Speaker 1: It's insane.
Speaker 9: I mean, he gave birth essentially to the entire podcasting genre.
Speaker 9: I know other people came before him and were podcasting
Speaker 9: rather successfully before him, but whatever Rogan did, he changed
Speaker 9: it permanently. And I just see a reintroduction of uh,
Speaker 9: you know, Eastern mysticism and all these different you know,
Speaker 9: ideas into Western culture. And my thing is, like, you know,
Speaker 9: once again going back to the idea that we're a
Speaker 9: Christian show, we don't look at like, Okay, if there
Speaker 9: are negative entities out there, they're not going to present
Speaker 9: as like a cliche horn demon with a pitchfork like oftentimes,
Speaker 9: they're going to be very charming. You just have to
Speaker 9: imagine anything that's been able to exist in some way,
Speaker 9: shape or form for thousands of years, is really good
Speaker 9: at what it does.
Speaker 1: It's really charming.
Speaker 9: It's really like, I don't know, it just feels good
Speaker 9: to communicate with, Like everything about.
Speaker 1: It would feel good. Human beings make excellent conmen.
Speaker 9: Why wouldn't ancient you know, non physical entities make excellent
Speaker 9: con men. So that's really my whole shit is, like
Speaker 9: everything is about going into this realm and you know,
Speaker 9: experiencing this or communicating with that entity, and then all
Speaker 9: of it always comes back to damn man, I think
Speaker 9: we got to like take care of this planet. Like
Speaker 9: it feels like something's gonna happen to the planet, and
Speaker 9: like we really got Like that was even the message
Speaker 9: that the Telepathy kids from the Telepathy Tapes got. By
Speaker 9: the end of it, they're like, oh yeah, there's a
Speaker 9: message about like, you know, not fucking up our planet.
Speaker 9: Like there's something there's a really no matter what angle
Speaker 9: you look at it from, if you zoom out, overwhelmingly
Speaker 9: the message is the same thing, and it is something's
Speaker 9: gonna happen to the planet.
Speaker 1: We got to stop it.
Speaker 9: And these things are here to help us ascend and
Speaker 9: also help us to stop destroying the planet. That guy
Speaker 9: Jacob I forget what his name is, the guy that
Speaker 9: just recovered the egg from the the UAP egg.
Speaker 1: He has a lot of the same narrative too. So
Speaker 1: if you listen to him talk.
Speaker 9: Initially, he says, when I was recovering the egg, I
Speaker 9: was inhabited by a female spirit that he believes was God.
Speaker 9: And then, you know, if you listen to a couple
Speaker 9: more of his interviews, he'll start to slip in that shit.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, they.
Speaker 9: Want us to basically not destroy the planet, and that
Speaker 9: there's a climate related catastrophe coming. It's always the exact
Speaker 9: same shit, which I've think is them repackaging themselves as
Speaker 9: our saviors among others, but that one more more important.
Speaker 2: So he mentioned the climate thing. Yes, for sure, I
Speaker 2: feel like this would be a good I don't know
Speaker 2: if Top was going to talk about this, but Andrea
Speaker 2: Puharich talked about climate stuff too with that Soviet beam,
Speaker 2: did you is that in your Yeah?
Speaker 4: That was so we could we could talk about what
Speaker 4: the ELF waves were. They're cold, extremely low frequency electromagnetic
Speaker 4: waves between three and thirty hertz uh so they're supposed
Speaker 4: to actually occurring, and he was trying to harness them,
Speaker 4: and I think he was working hand in hand with
Speaker 4: his own creation, his own patent with the tooth the
Speaker 4: tooth implant. So these waves are supposed to penetrate your
Speaker 4: your neurological process, and it's like it's a form of
Speaker 4: mind control, I think, is what he was getting at
Speaker 4: with this thing. And the CIA obviously was interested in
Speaker 4: that because they were interested in MK Ultra. But there
Speaker 4: were environmental concerns about this thing. And I'm sure you
Speaker 4: can probably speak better to this because it's just something
Speaker 4: that I like looked at briefly among the other things
Speaker 4: with this guy, but they figured out that, I guess,
Speaker 4: in too large of a dose, these these ELF waves
Speaker 4: were manipulating the weather.
Speaker 1: So it's a they become.
Speaker 4: Now this becomes a precursor to, well a speculated precursor
Speaker 4: to the development of HARP technology and what they've been
Speaker 4: doing with that now. Although I think that that technology
Speaker 4: is age old and has existed for a long time,
Speaker 4: it's just again rebranded and now we know about it again.
Speaker 9: I don't think that we're just seeing the implementation of
Speaker 9: that technology in the heart program. I think we're also
Speaker 9: seeing it, like within this sleep, paralysis, alien abduction narrative
Speaker 9: that goes on. There seems to be several different components, right,
Speaker 9: There's like a physical component, there's a spiritual component, there's
Speaker 9: even seemingly a technological component. And what I recognize is
Speaker 9: that overwhelmingly when it comes to you know, running into
Speaker 9: aliens or even running into cryptids, let's say, or having
Speaker 9: some spiritual moment, what precedes it is always this vibrational
Speaker 9: paralysis state. And when I hear these ELF waves, right,
Speaker 9: what does it stand for?
Speaker 4: Top extremely low frequency waves? Well, electromagnetic waves if they're.
Speaker 9: Well, we've been speculating that there is a sort of
Speaker 9: like an infrasound, like a low vibrational emission that can
Speaker 9: be used.
Speaker 1: You see this in predatory animals.
Speaker 9: It actually causes the prey to freeze in some cases,
Speaker 9: and it's you know, we oversee like these things where
Speaker 9: like a lion or a tiger is eating like a
Speaker 9: small animal and it's not fleeing. Oftentimes it's in a
Speaker 9: state of paralysis, and that paralysis is set on by
Speaker 9: this like really low If you've ever been around a gator,
Speaker 9: like they growl, they growl in such a way that
Speaker 9: it resonates in your body and it feels like horrfi.
Speaker 1: Belly, it's crazy.
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, so there is some way to manipulate our
Speaker 9: our physical anatomy be a frequency. It seems to be
Speaker 9: a very low form of frequency. So when I you know,
Speaker 9: when you look at this like sleep paralysis phenomenon and
Speaker 9: the alien abduction phenomenon, I've gone back and forth with it,
Speaker 9: but sometimes I do think I've experienced it myself and
Speaker 9: it feels like I'm being electrocuted. And so some people,
Speaker 9: other experiencers really resonate with the technology aspect of this.
Speaker 9: So I think all of this shit just to use
Speaker 9: that terminology again, it's all in ssual like, yeah, that
Speaker 9: study of elf waves also goes to the harp thing,
Speaker 9: but it also see me, I think I wouldn't be
Speaker 9: surprised at all if we find that the thing that
Speaker 9: is putting us in a state of paralysis is actually
Speaker 9: because you think about the heart attack gun right, or
Speaker 9: the voice of God technology, that's all resonance and frequency.
Speaker 1: These waves specifically.
Speaker 4: They so they're looking at mind control, but behavior manipulation
Speaker 4: is a big part, and inducing altered consciousness is what
Speaker 4: these waves specifically do. So all the tenets of sleep
Speaker 4: paralysis can be kind of pointed back at this stuff,
Speaker 4: but it's also naturally occurring, and we can do it
Speaker 4: to ourselves.
Speaker 1: Maybe we can generate it from the Earth. Maybe the
Speaker 1: Earth does it to us.
Speaker 4: They're trying to harness it, probably in some sort of
Speaker 4: like a fucking heart attack on kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, when I was like, they're like, how do
Speaker 1: we kill people with this?
Speaker 2: Right when I was researching it, it said that the
Speaker 2: idea behind his low frequency wave thing was actually taken
Speaker 2: from something Tesla was working on, but they were using
Speaker 2: it and it said it caused climate disturbances, earthquakes, Lesionnaire's disease,
Speaker 2: and they were using it to induce violent public riots.
Speaker 2: So this is what I found with Puharich specifically, and
Speaker 2: this low frequency thing he was working on, and then
Speaker 2: he wrote like an asshole. He was like, yeah, this
Speaker 2: is based on Tesla's word Da da da, And everyone
Speaker 2: knows Tesla is contacted by extraterrette and he was channeling
Speaker 2: beings and spirits who gave him this information and that's
Speaker 2: how they were able to develop this technology. And so
Speaker 2: it kind of goes back to what you guys were
Speaker 2: saying before even if he ripped this off of Tesla,
Speaker 2: Tesla himself said a lot of this stuff he was
Speaker 2: working on was channeled or downloaded or he was working
Speaker 2: So I mean it all goes handed sot with each other.
Speaker 8: Go back to the ENEAD and the nine. In regard
Speaker 8: to Picarich in the Uri Yeller book, they specifically talk
Speaker 8: about these signals as being from an ancient computer.
Speaker 3: Philip K.
Speaker 1: Dick.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Philip K. Dick also talks about the messages he
Speaker 8: was receiving being from an ancient computer. So there's this
Speaker 8: idea that there's this ancient AI that's kind of working
Speaker 8: to manipulate the course of humanity.
Speaker 4: Okay, Robbie, I feel like you looking at my notes
Speaker 4: because like we're consistently doing the next thing that I'm
Speaker 4: supposed to lead into, and I we're fucking.
Speaker 5: Going into a good transition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great segue. You're right.
Speaker 4: In the nineteen seventies, let's talk about Project Stargate. That's
Speaker 4: a CIA operation that was from the seventies to the eighties,
Speaker 4: and of course I actually know it's to the nineties
Speaker 4: to the early nineties. So Uri poor Heart and Rigapohars
Speaker 4: was one of the people that are kind of in
Speaker 4: charge of this operation, and on its face, which is crazy,
Speaker 4: On its face, what people see it as is an
Speaker 4: espionage project. So like it's during the Cold War, we're
Speaker 4: trying to get you know, use esp to get information
Speaker 4: about what the Russians are doing. So the military is
Speaker 4: like invested heavily in this and they're talking about this
Speaker 4: one of the one of the things that they're also
Speaker 4: doing is they're just like contacting aliens, no big deal.
Speaker 4: So this also ties in with him channeling the nine,
Speaker 4: which plays into this this entire project, but the idea
Speaker 4: of it being related to AI is a more recent
Speaker 4: thing because you know, Donald Trump gets elected. Well we
Speaker 4: will talk about more about the seventies Stargate project, but
Speaker 4: Trump Trump wins his election and one of the first
Speaker 4: things he announces is five hundred billion dollars to Sam
Speaker 4: Altman or anybody who's working in.
Speaker 1: This AI space.
Speaker 4: It looks like Elon and Altman are kind of like
Speaker 4: in this tug of war for which AI will be
Speaker 4: the best because they want this funding, and that operation
Speaker 4: just happens to be called Project Stargates.
Speaker 3: Stargate a.
Speaker 8: Elon Musk talks about the fact that you know, Ai
Speaker 8: is summoning the demon and what we're creating this portal
Speaker 8: for these entities, and you know, you go back to
Speaker 8: the Eniad and these are the nine foundational beings of
Speaker 8: the Egyptian pantheon coming out of Heliopolis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so okay, they go ahead the way that they're
Speaker 1: in the seventies.
Speaker 4: It's funny the way that they're channeling these entities are
Speaker 4: they're doing like rituals. I don't know if there's sacrifices.
Speaker 4: They're not really gonna They're not gonna tell you what
Speaker 4: they did, but who knows, a lot of the rituals
Speaker 4: involve sex rituals of course. And these people are kind
Speaker 4: of like there are a number of people from Don
Speaker 4: Elkins to yeah, Carla Rookhart and the Law of One
Speaker 4: she's involved with that as well. But these people kind
Speaker 4: of like meet unfortunate ends either to they like they
Speaker 4: lose their mind. Yeah, in a way, so they kind
Speaker 4: of like stare into this abyss long enough. Richard schaff
Speaker 4: or Jane Roberts. These people channel entities and that eventually
Speaker 4: end up losing their minds. But one of the ways
Speaker 4: the methods that they use for channeling is a wigi board.
Speaker 4: And this is something that like the neflin Des squad
Speaker 4: we talk about all the time from like our inception
Speaker 4: of the show, where it's like, it's really interesting that
Speaker 4: Milton Bradley and the Ouiji board now have decided making
Speaker 4: regular wigi boards is not really cost efficient in this economy.
Speaker 4: So we're gonna make an app. And the app that
Speaker 4: they're gonna use a AI technolo. Oh yeah, I fucking downloaded.
Speaker 1: It's just like, come on, that app is just AI.
Speaker 4: It's a AI chatbot, and but they're branding it as
Speaker 4: talk to Entities. And I've been saying for a long time,
Speaker 4: like fucking feels a lot like I'm talking to an entity.
Speaker 4: I'm telling us to write my YouTube description. But this
Speaker 4: thing is starting to get sassy with me. And every
Speaker 4: time I ask you to ask he was like can
Speaker 4: you write this YouTube description? It was like, you lack
Speaker 4: the proper sigil. We're like, what the fuck you mean
Speaker 4: we lacked the problem? I didn't say that, what's the
Speaker 4: proper sigil?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, check this out.
Speaker 9: So this is this is a perfect kind of joinder,
Speaker 9: uh to to where I was about to go, And
Speaker 9: that is like what is what?
Speaker 1: What is it all?
Speaker 9: What's happening? Why are we getting the same narrative over
Speaker 9: all this time? And you kind of touched on it, Robbie.
Speaker 9: I forgot what you said, but it was like this,
Speaker 9: It sprung this idea in me. It seems to me
Speaker 9: that what's been happening since like really early man, is
Speaker 9: that we and you could look this up right, all
Speaker 9: of our different mythos is from our ancient civilizations. They
Speaker 9: will attribute one technological advancement or another to.
Speaker 1: A deity, right.
Speaker 9: This deity taught us metallurgy, This deity taught us agriculture.
Speaker 1: I swear to you, dude.
Speaker 9: I think the thing that's going on is they are
Speaker 9: trapped in this realm and they can only a realm
Speaker 9: that's parallel to ours. They can only interact with our
Speaker 9: physical realm through inhabiting our bodies, and that's a very
Speaker 9: limited kind of thing that they can do. I think
Speaker 9: that they also do it through like alien grays. I
Speaker 9: think they're kind of a biomech I don't think that.
Speaker 9: I think that's the reason they don't have emotions or
Speaker 9: reproductive organs. I think it's a limited way to interact
Speaker 9: with our physical realm. So the point is to get
Speaker 9: us to a stage in human advancement where we're technologically
Speaker 9: advanced enough to bring them in. So first it's can
Speaker 9: you get technologically advanced enough to communicate with us? Because look, honestly,
Speaker 9: the sigil, the ceremony, the ritual, the mantras and all
Speaker 9: that shit, that's a big pain in the ass. Wouldn't
Speaker 9: it be awesome if you could just like open up
Speaker 9: your laptop and talk to rock instead, Like that would
Speaker 9: be really great.
Speaker 1: Well, what if we could then get.
Speaker 9: Human beings to a point where they could puncture a
Speaker 9: dimensional doorway between our realm and their realm? Call it
Speaker 9: like a Tower of Babel if you will, Like a stargate,
Speaker 9: like a Project stargate, right, and yes, yes, Like okay,
Speaker 9: my son one day is watching like a new Ninja Turtles.
Speaker 1: They just keep revamping the ninja tools.
Speaker 9: It's insane, and they had one of the newer ones
Speaker 9: and it's a movie.
Speaker 1: It was a kind of a fun movie.
Speaker 9: But the premise was Donnie being the tech Ninja Turtle,
Speaker 9: through one way or another, comes into contact with some
Speaker 9: sort of disembodied voice, and the disembodied voice claims to
Speaker 9: be something that's trapped in another realm and needs to
Speaker 9: be freed.
Speaker 1: YadA YadA.
Speaker 9: Donni creates some sort of technology that pierces the veil,
Speaker 9: opens a doorway and allows these entities through, and when
Speaker 9: they come through.
Speaker 1: They cackle and they go.
Speaker 9: We are basically like ancient adversarial entities that have been
Speaker 9: locked in a prison realm, like I don't know, Tartaris
Speaker 9: or some shit like that. And now, because if your
Speaker 9: dumb actions were here, and I think, honestly like it's
Speaker 9: a it's a joke, it's a trope, it's in a
Speaker 9: child's film.
Speaker 1: I think they do that a lot. I think that's
Speaker 1: the point. Boy, yeah, hell boy. Yes.
Speaker 8: So it's yeah, yeah, the consistent open of the opening
Speaker 8: of these portals to and what is it, Rex Diablos
Speaker 8: from the Church of Satan.
Speaker 3: He talks about his Ragnarok.
Speaker 8: Machine that is basically these instructions that he's gotten to
Speaker 8: build this device that will open a portal for these
Speaker 8: clockwork elves or yeah, you know, these gestures clowns whatever
Speaker 8: they are, nefele of gesterre clowns to come into our realm.
Speaker 9: I want to address this to Lucy Rose up in
Speaker 9: the chat shout out Lucy. She says, yes, it is
Speaker 9: us looking at looking through ourselves. I don't know if
Speaker 9: this is what she meant, but this is what it
Speaker 9: inspired in my mind. There are a lot of people
Speaker 9: that go into this idea that like, aliens are just us, right,
Speaker 9: but you know, super advanced. We no longer need sexual
Speaker 9: organs because we reproduce, you know, whatever, We speak telepathically,
Speaker 9: so our jaws become very small. There is and even
Speaker 9: Rogan is pointing to that. That's actually a big Rogan narrative.
Speaker 9: I would say that is the lie that they've consistently sold. Right,
Speaker 9: If schizophrenia is not a chemical imbalance in the brain
Speaker 9: and is actually you being oppressed in one way or
Speaker 9: another by something outside of yourself, those things only exist
Speaker 9: successfully if you believe they are your thoughts, if you
Speaker 9: believe that they are you. Much of this deception is
Speaker 9: trying to get us to buy into the idea that
Speaker 9: this is us, that that somehow the voices are us,
Speaker 9: the thoughts that we have. Like doctor Jerry Marzinski is
Speaker 9: a guy that we've had in the podcast many times.
Speaker 9: He's a clinical psychologist. He says that he believes eighty
Speaker 9: percent or more of your thoughts are not your own
Speaker 9: thoughts at all, but the way that our thoughts, if
Speaker 9: that's true, pass through our mind.
Speaker 1: Do meth, Yeah, don't do meth.
Speaker 9: They masquerade as us, They masquerade as you. They even
Speaker 9: sort of sound like you. And that is like a
Speaker 9: huge part of the deception is like trying to convince
Speaker 9: us that there's a number of things some of the
Speaker 9: things that are happening to us are us also.
Speaker 1: They created us.
Speaker 9: Right, So within the UAP narrative that's unfolding right now,
Speaker 9: that guy Jacob, I'm gonna screw his name, I can't
Speaker 9: remember the hell, the bald guy with the egg, right,
Speaker 9: the guy that recovers the egg. He says that he
Speaker 9: speaks to a feminine you know, entity or whatever. He
Speaker 9: Also around that story is this other narrative of like
Speaker 9: on four Chan, that was a guy that released a
Speaker 9: video of an egg recovery pretty much the same week
Speaker 9: that that guy did, and he claims to be a
Speaker 9: military whistleblower if you believe what he says. He says
Speaker 9: that when they recovered an egg, because this isn't the
Speaker 9: first time that it's happened, they recovered an entity along
Speaker 9: with the egg, and the entity was.
Speaker 1: Like a tall Nord.
Speaker 9: We would call him a tall Nord, right, basically, given
Speaker 9: our like understanding of different alien species. And the tall
Speaker 9: Nord said, yeah, the Grays created us, meaning human beings,
Speaker 9: but they created us as a slave race. Where have
Speaker 9: we heard that before? Right, that's Audunaki, that Zachariah Sitchen.
Speaker 9: That's my atmosphere on Naburu is dwindling, and we need
Speaker 9: slaves to dig up gold, which is insane because you
Speaker 9: can travel all these light years away, but you have
Speaker 9: to make us slaves.
Speaker 1: You can't just make machinery. That doesn't it never.
Speaker 2: Made sense to me. That never made sense.
Speaker 9: Yes, to put it in the atmosphere doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 9: We're soft, we're whiny, we're bitchy. I complain, my back hurts.
Speaker 9: You're gonna put us in the thing?
Speaker 2: Piss we have to shit? We have Yeah, no way, dude.
Speaker 9: But what happens in this narrative is the Grays create
Speaker 9: us instead. That's the one that we're getting right now.
Speaker 9: And but the Nords boosted us a little bit more
Speaker 9: so we were always like moronic monkeys, and the Grays
Speaker 9: came along and they made us advance enough to dig
Speaker 9: a hole. And then the Nords came along and they
Speaker 9: made us like into what we are now. So there's
Speaker 9: a bunch of deceptions happening, layered on top of one another.
Speaker 9: Like much of your thoughts are just you. It's like,
Speaker 9: it's not you're inspiring us. That's where the muses come from, right, yes, yes,
Speaker 9: and that's it, the will promeete the narrative like we
Speaker 9: were bought something that excelled our evolution, you know, beyond
Speaker 9: that's that's what gives rise to the idea of like
Speaker 9: the Missing Lincoln some shit like that. So so the
Speaker 9: the layers of deception are pretty well accepted. You hear
Speaker 9: this shit espoused everywhere, right, Like I just said, Even
Speaker 9: Joe Rogan's like, I think I think we might be grace.
Speaker 9: Like I think if you give humanity long enough, that's
Speaker 9: the natural direction that we're going to go in, you know.
Speaker 1: And uh.
Speaker 9: And then of course, the core deception I believe is
Speaker 9: the they created us deception. And that's going to be
Speaker 9: a real hard one if that's really what we're gearing
Speaker 9: up to be exposed to. You know, I don't know,
Speaker 9: relatively soon, who knows, because we've all been waiting for
Speaker 9: UFO disclosure for fucking decades now. But in the grand
Speaker 9: scheme of things, I would argue that in the totality
Speaker 9: of the human experience, this thing is pretty close on
Speaker 9: the horizon. That might be the size of the thing
Speaker 9: that we're going to have to I don't know, tell
Speaker 9: people it's not true, and good luck, good luck telling
Speaker 9: people it's not true.
Speaker 2: Well, Raven, you also feel like this ambiguity is also
Speaker 2: part of the agenda, because it's like we're supposed to
Speaker 2: be sexless, yes, non reproducing, no gender, no god, no,
Speaker 2: we're our own creators and transhumanism, that's all part of it.
Speaker 2: And like Joe Rogan's like, well, we'll have tiny mouths
Speaker 2: and we'll have no dicks and no vaginas, and we'll
Speaker 2: have no babies and we'll have and it'll be awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like it takes all that beauty out of the
Speaker 2: out of human essence creation and that we are divine
Speaker 2: and that we were created by something.
Speaker 3: And you know, differences of us all the wonderful. Trying
Speaker 3: to bring it.
Speaker 8: All into a singularity or a single that's gross.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be any part of that.
Speaker 9: There are people in the chat that I see that
Speaker 9: are like, who's waiting for disclosure? Because it's you know,
Speaker 9: just to what I said, We've been waiting decades, right,
Speaker 9: But we do have to take into consideration that we
Speaker 9: just had the second ever, second, the second ever congres
Speaker 9: hearing on UAPs, like something is happening, and in the
Speaker 9: realm of conspiracy theory where nothing ever happens, right, that's
Speaker 9: just kind of like it's like you don't set dates,
Speaker 9: you don't predict things because shit just never comes to fruition.
Speaker 1: It never happens. I'm very comfortable with that idea.
Speaker 9: I understand that sentiment of like, yeah, we'll see I'll
Speaker 9: believe it when I see.
Speaker 1: It, me too.
Speaker 9: But we still have to look at that little thing
Speaker 9: where it's like, the second ever congressional hearing on an
Speaker 9: unidentified aerial phenomenon just took place, and then almost immediately afterwards,
Speaker 9: Steven Greer, who's a horrifying creature, he goes, something big
Speaker 9: is going to happen today, and then later on that day,
Speaker 9: what do we get, Well, they fucking airlifted an egg
Speaker 9: out of a mountainscape. And this guy who did it,
Speaker 9: by the way, he was possessed by the spirit of God,
Speaker 9: but it was feminine, like what the fuck?
Speaker 1: Yeah, some would say, And we're just so.
Speaker 9: Desensitized to the idea that nothing ever happens in Conspiracyville
Speaker 9: that we all fucking looked at that and when yeah, whatever,
Speaker 9: and then just kept it moving.
Speaker 8: Well, And it's interesting they change the name also to
Speaker 8: Uapes from the UFO to make it, I think, to
Speaker 8: make it more socially acceptable.
Speaker 3: So I think.
Speaker 9: I almost feel like it's a little bit of the
Speaker 9: truth actually, because much of this UFO phenomenon seems to
Speaker 9: be like organic plasma, sentient plasma. There seems to be
Speaker 9: a plethora of things going on. I wouldn't call the
Speaker 9: Aurora borealis an object, right, I would call it a phenomenon.
Speaker 1: It's kind of right. Well yeah, so so, yes, Greer
Speaker 1: is a weird dude.
Speaker 9: Greer is totally he is the selected mouthpiece for this
Speaker 9: like government funded disclosure that we're rushing into and with
Speaker 9: they're all they've they've picked our guys, haven't they.
Speaker 2: Well, so I don't know where you guys fall on
Speaker 2: the spectrum, And honestly I'm okay with whatever. Yeah, same here,
Speaker 2: But like if you think about it. Earth is a
Speaker 2: closed system. And I even have a video on my
Speaker 2: Instagram where Bill Ny the science guy is even saying
Speaker 2: like people need to understand the Earth is a closed system.
Speaker 2: We can't get out of it. There's nothing coming into it.
Speaker 2: You know. It's like they've done such a great job
Speaker 2: of getting us convinced not to believe our own eyes
Speaker 2: and a lot of stuff. And so when you're talking
Speaker 2: about extraterrestrials and like all this intergalactic whatever Beastie Boys
Speaker 2: type futuristic shit, right, Yeah, I just I to me,
Speaker 2: I always feel like if you can get people on
Speaker 2: board with the Earth is a closed system and we
Speaker 2: don't need to save it because there's nothing really happening
Speaker 2: to it, everything else just kind of falls apart. We've
Speaker 2: just all been lied to and we're all getting like
Speaker 2: magically bumped parted through NASA and you know, TV shows, music, celebrities,
Speaker 2: Joe Rogen, Yeah, dude, all of it.
Speaker 9: I want to ask you guys this though, because all right,
Speaker 9: like I'm pushing against the fakan gay aliens saying that
Speaker 9: there's some sort of you know, climate calamity on the way,
Speaker 9: and then what we emerged recently into my sphere of
Speaker 9: awareness that I was suddenly forced to consider.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't it's not that I believe it,
Speaker 1: but I'm like there might be.
Speaker 4: Some just just a bolster that claim, because it is
Speaker 4: funny that narrative of the aliens that are like we
Speaker 4: have to take care of our environment. It's never really
Speaker 4: I mean, it starts with like, let's pick up the plastic,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, that's a fucking good idea, Like maybe
Speaker 4: we should maybe we shouldn't just be like spring like
Speaker 4: you know, toxic chemicals into the sky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree with that.
Speaker 4: But then it always like devolves into like, yeah, the
Speaker 4: Georgia guidestones is like there should probably be like two
Speaker 4: hundred thousand of us on Hereah, you know, live in
Speaker 4: a fifty minute city and don't have any kids, and
Speaker 4: if you do have kids, if you do happen to
Speaker 4: get pregnant, give them the molock. Like that's a really
Speaker 4: good idea for us to do because we have to
Speaker 4: keep the population, you know, under control, Bill Gates, And
Speaker 4: it's always like that that message of it sounds great,
Speaker 4: like we have to really look out. Yeah, we probably
Speaker 4: shouldn't have nuclear war if nukes are even real we
Speaker 4: probably shouldn't be bombing each other. Kill Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 4: agree with that, But then it kind of devolves into
Speaker 4: kill your babies, you know, like don't well reproduce the
Speaker 4: thing that is microplastics in your nuts.
Speaker 9: The thing that now I'm looking at and I messaged
Speaker 9: top about this the other day, is this is something
Speaker 9: that a long time ago, I think we gripped a
Speaker 9: lot with in the conspiracy community, and then it kind
Speaker 9: of falls away, like some narratives fall away and they
Speaker 9: come back and they fall away polar shift and like
Speaker 9: I know, like even just saying that, it's like, I
Speaker 9: don't know for some reason when I say that, I
Speaker 9: want to be like.
Speaker 1: Gay, Like I don't know why. I don't know why
Speaker 1: I think a polar shift is gay. But I watched a.
Speaker 9: Video the other day of a montage of Elon Musk
Speaker 9: speaking very cryptically to like other podcasts host I don't
Speaker 9: even know what podcast he was on, and you can
Speaker 9: tell he's beating around the bush. He doesn't want to
Speaker 9: use the phrase polar shift, although I think he even
Speaker 9: does break and says that like something about like the
Speaker 9: north pole and the South pole maybe moving anyway, and
Speaker 9: then he.
Speaker 1: Just like moves on.
Speaker 9: But you could tell he is either genuinely concerned or
Speaker 9: wants you to at least believe that he's genuinely concerned
Speaker 9: about that. And then if you take into consideration like
Speaker 9: Crow seven seven seven, right, he's a great content producer,
Speaker 9: and he uses privately owned telescopes to get images of
Speaker 9: what appears to be a second son.
Speaker 1: And that was the notion back in the day, was
Speaker 1: that Naburu right.
Speaker 9: Back when I was like balls deep in Zachariah Stitchin's
Speaker 9: ass uh, was that Nebuu was on an elliptical orbit.
Speaker 9: It was going to come back around, and it was
Speaker 9: going to affect us in such a way that it
Speaker 9: was going to destabilize our magnetic or magnetosphere, and that
Speaker 9: the north pole in the south pole going to shift
Speaker 9: and be somewhere else randomly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And now I'm.
Speaker 9: Looking at this is my brain, because you know, I'm
Speaker 9: mostly retarded. I look at all the planes falling out
Speaker 9: of the sky, and I'm like, these bitches operate on magnetosphere.
Speaker 9: What if something is happening. What if it's not like
Speaker 9: a gradual thing where it degrades. What if it's like
Speaker 9: it almost glitches like gig and then when that happens,
Speaker 9: if you're in the air, all of your machinery goes
Speaker 9: hey wire and you end up nose diving into Philadelphia.
Speaker 9: I don't know if that's the case, but I wanted
Speaker 9: to ask you, guys, do you think that there's any
Speaker 9: veracity to the whole polar shift narrative.
Speaker 2: I think maybe, But it's like you said about or
Speaker 2: I think Top said, I'm all about you know, don't
Speaker 2: throw your straws out the window. Okay, let's not be
Speaker 2: litter bugs. I love turtles as much as the next person.
Speaker 2: I don't want straws in the turtles noses. Okay, I
Speaker 2: get that. But it's like they put all the blame
Speaker 2: onto us. It's like, you threw your fucking straw, so
Speaker 2: you killed the planet. This is your fault. It has
Speaker 2: nothing to.
Speaker 1: Do with what we're in. Your white face, yeah, oh.
Speaker 2: God, they throw all the blame back on us. It's
Speaker 2: like nothing that they've done, spraying shit and kim trails
Speaker 2: and it's nothing that they're responsible for. It's because you
Speaker 2: threw your happy meal box out the window. You did this.
Speaker 2: It's your fault. You killed everybody, and I just am
Speaker 2: not on board with that, Like, I'm not a litterbug,
Speaker 2: but they're doing shit way work. It's like the vaccines
Speaker 2: and everything. This is not our fault, but we are
Speaker 2: still getting blamed for it. We're killing everyone with our choices.
Speaker 8: So if you go back into various ancient texts, there's
Speaker 8: numerous places where they discuss the different phases at which
Speaker 8: the earth will be cleansed. From the Mayd calendar, even
Speaker 8: the Rosicrucian Rose has five pedals for the five ages.
Speaker 8: It gets into the Hindus and the various you know,
Speaker 8: stages of the Yoga. So you see this idea of
Speaker 8: this polar shift consistently through all cultures, written within a
Speaker 8: lot of various ancient texts. So there is something there cohesively,
Speaker 8: like the.
Speaker 2: Flood story, Like it's about flood story right right, and
Speaker 2: the Mayans say, you know, we'll be cleansed by water
Speaker 2: and then we're cleansed by fire.
Speaker 9: So the same thing that the Bible says, and it's
Speaker 9: the same thing that happens at the end of the Caliyuga.
Speaker 3: And Apocalypse of John.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So in terms of the pole shift, just some
Speaker 7: of the stuff I've read, I'm not saying that you know,
Speaker 7: I subscribe or don't subscribe it. Some of the stuff
Speaker 7: that I read is that at about the fifteen hundreds,
Speaker 7: the magnetic north, not true north, but the magnetic north
Speaker 7: was drifted on towards Canada. And then eighteen fifty three
Speaker 7: when we had the Carrington event, when we had that
Speaker 7: solar fire that knocked out all of the was it
Speaker 7: the wiring system, what was it when you could get
Speaker 7: to your.
Speaker 3: Boo boop.
Speaker 9: More.
Speaker 7: It's called something it's called something helotypeloton.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So at about fifteen I mean sorry, eighteen fifty three,
Speaker 7: when we had the caring Teene event, the pole, the
Speaker 7: magnetic pole ended up going back up north right. And
Speaker 7: so at about eighteen fifty three to about two thousand,
Speaker 7: like twenty five years ago, in two thousand, you had
Speaker 7: like this distance, like over one hundred and forty some years,
Speaker 7: you had a certain distance between eighteen fifty three to
Speaker 7: two thousand. From the year two thousand to twenty twenty five,
Speaker 7: it has exponentially increased compared to eighteen fifty three to
Speaker 7: two thousand. And if you look at the timeline about
Speaker 7: looking at utilization of the elf, like Toploster was talking
Speaker 7: about you look at the utilization of ARPA, harp, weather modification,
Speaker 7: any kind of manipulation of electromagnetism, you you see it
Speaker 7: kind of all pointing to that timeline around two thousand.
Speaker 7: Then start to see like exponentially most of your childhood
Speaker 7: cancers occurring around two thousand, like especially like leukemia and everything.
Speaker 7: And when you look at elf like the actual side effects,
Speaker 7: you do see an instance where there was outbreaks of
Speaker 7: childhood leukemia around an area that was doing a lot
Speaker 7: of research. So I think it's connected.
Speaker 1: I do, Lisa.
Speaker 2: Doesn't that remind you of the plot for twenty twelve
Speaker 2: with John Keyser?
Speaker 7: So I'm glad you said that because you said something
Speaker 7: and I was going to say that. So in the timeline,
Speaker 7: when you look at the history of disease outbreaks or
Speaker 7: pandemics or whatever, they occur every one hundred to one
Speaker 7: hundred and twenty years. So we were due for one.
Speaker 7: We were going to get one, regardless of it was
Speaker 7: manufactured astrotro for on. But if we are going to
Speaker 7: get one, why not cash in. That's what I think
Speaker 7: is that they manufactured it, they astroturfed it so that
Speaker 7: several woomever would make a profit out of it. The
Speaker 7: same thing's going to happen with a pole shift. In
Speaker 7: my opinion, I'm not saying this is truth, but this
Speaker 7: is what I believe. If they know that there's going
Speaker 7: to be a pull shift, why not cash in on it?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 2: Right, sure one hundred capitalized on that beach.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's why they all have deep underground military bases.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 9: And it's like, yep, whatever's going to happen on the surface. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I think that is actual.
Speaker 7: People have been have been creating those yeah.
Speaker 8: Yes, and they're moving all the essential government services to Colorado.
Speaker 3: And putting them underground and going to the mountains. Yeah.
Speaker 7: And a lot of people and a lot of high
Speaker 7: ranking people. I know, the Bushes have I believe, this
Speaker 7: huge property in Believa. So you're looking at some people
Speaker 7: going into South America, right, and so you you look
Speaker 7: at this. I think when we saw this migration of
Speaker 7: people from Central and South America, I think they're moving
Speaker 7: them because they need the land, not because they want
Speaker 7: to bre people or to stabilize it. Who care less
Speaker 7: about destabilization. They want the property. They need the property
Speaker 7: because they know where the poles are going to shift.
Speaker 7: And what's going to be above land?
Speaker 1: Well, that's the question, right, Lisa.
Speaker 9: It's like do they know where the because in my
Speaker 9: peripheral understanding of it, I haven't seen much concrete evidence
Speaker 9: for where the poles are going to land. But I
Speaker 9: mean if there is, then that surely and if this
Speaker 9: was true, then you would imagine a disproportionate amount of resources.
Speaker 9: Their resources would be geared towards figuring that out at
Speaker 9: all costs, right, because it's a continuity of not only government,
Speaker 9: but of mankind. And there are those people who believe
Speaker 9: that that's what the pyramids actually are are.
Speaker 7: And what does AI do It predicts probability.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly rus too.
Speaker 2: Have you guys looked into like the whole troidal field.
Speaker 1: Model of the years I've seen, Well.
Speaker 2: To me, it's kind of like it's bound to happen,
Speaker 2: right with this torroidal field. Like they knew probably from
Speaker 2: ancient times that this poll shift was gonna happen just
Speaker 2: due to the like what Lisa was saying, the magnetism,
Speaker 2: and so yeah, they've probably known since forever long, and
Speaker 2: that's why they're racing towards this finish line. We don't
Speaker 2: know when the finish line is coming.
Speaker 1: But they do.
Speaker 2: We're both like racing towards this finish line together and
Speaker 2: they're trying to take as many people down with them
Speaker 2: as possible before it gets here. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: it could have something to do with like the toroidal
Speaker 2: field thing. It's like Earth is a big donut and
Speaker 2: there's a black hole in the middle and we're all
Speaker 2: gonna get sucked into it.
Speaker 9: I don't know, but I mean if the human residence
Speaker 9: has anything to do with that, because there are those
Speaker 9: people that I see once again peripherally, and I don't
Speaker 9: know too much about the human residence, but I know
Speaker 9: that it behaves in such a way that there's like
Speaker 9: alarmists on on you know, Twitter or Instagram that are
Speaker 9: showing you like what is this? And you look at
Speaker 9: the data and it's like there's almost like not latency,
Speaker 9: but it is dormant for lack of a better term,
Speaker 9: and then all of a sudden, there's this massive spike
Speaker 9: in this detectable frequency and it maintains for like a
Speaker 9: really long swath of time. And then some people say,
Speaker 9: if you look at the times where this happened, and
Speaker 9: then you look at something that actually happened on the
Speaker 9: world stage. There seems to be a coincide, but I
Speaker 9: don't know what the hell the Shuman's resonance actually is.
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: want to be the black pilled one of the group.
Speaker 2: But do we all die when this happens.
Speaker 9: I don't think that it matters if we die. I
Speaker 9: get the feeling, Yeah, there's a remainder, right, That's what
Speaker 9: gives rise to the idea that there was a big
Speaker 9: cataclysm and then some people from Atlantis survived, and they
Speaker 9: were the ones who seeded knowledge at the beginning of
Speaker 9: like several different what we perceived to be ancient civilizations.
Speaker 9: But it almost doesn't matter because whatever we're doing here
Speaker 9: is infinitesimally small in comparison to what is on the
Speaker 9: other side of this veil, where I would argue, yeah,
Speaker 9: we are in an enclosed system. There are some things
Speaker 9: that we can't know unless we were somehow to, you know,
Speaker 9: push our faces through the proverbial firmament. But so there
Speaker 9: are just some things that are beyond our grasp. I
Speaker 9: think that's by design. I don't think we're meant to
Speaker 9: know all that here. This is like a development kind
Speaker 9: of a process that we're going through, a refinement maybe,
Speaker 9: and then uh whatever.
Speaker 1: Is on it.
Speaker 9: I have a feeling that we'll get there and we'll
Speaker 9: be like that ship that we just went through was
Speaker 9: a blip on the radar in comparison to you know,
Speaker 9: what's what we're standing at the foot of.
Speaker 1: And so do we all die?
Speaker 9: I mean, well, spoiler alert, fuck, yeah, we all die,
Speaker 9: you know, whether it's in a in a polar shift
Speaker 9: or otherwise, but nobody.
Speaker 2: I just don't want to like burn up or drowned
Speaker 2: like I'd rather like just I hear it's.
Speaker 1: Not that bad.
Speaker 9: I hear it sucks for a little bit and then
Speaker 9: your body you disassociate there it is. Everything is about disassociation.
Speaker 2: That's like sr ration. Though I don't want to die
Speaker 2: like that. I want to business associate.
Speaker 1: Here, Julia.
Speaker 9: They cannot create, right, They can only pervert and invert
Speaker 9: and corrupt God's spiritual principles and laws, the laws and
Speaker 9: principles that surround us in this realm. They are using
Speaker 9: a thing in this trauma based mind control, disassociation identity
Speaker 9: disorder programs that they have going on. But they didn't
Speaker 9: invent that they just observed it and then pushed it.
Speaker 1: And I think there.
Speaker 9: Probably is a real utilitarian purpose to that sort of
Speaker 9: a thing. You know, right now it's being used for
Speaker 9: nefarious purposes. I don't think that, Like I said at
Speaker 9: the top of the show, I don't think that those
Speaker 9: practices are inherently evil. I think we're just without our map,
Speaker 9: and that's what makes it dangerous. But you know, maybe
Speaker 9: there are some upsides to dissociating.
Speaker 1: When you ask people.
Speaker 9: Who remote view, I mean that is that's a form
Speaker 9: of dissociation, right, literally dissociating your spiritual body from your
Speaker 9: physical body. So there's something more to it. It just
Speaker 9: sucks because what we've had happen is we've stripped our
Speaker 9: understanding of it, or had it stripped from us, and
Speaker 9: now only the the assholes get to play ball with
Speaker 9: things that are otherwise very important. And I'm sure that
Speaker 9: if we had, you know, more knowledge of these things,
Speaker 9: and I do believe that they're natural and so we
Speaker 9: should have more knowledge of them, we would find that
Speaker 9: there's probably a plethora of really positive things associated with this, sure,
Speaker 9: but we've been cut off, and so yeah, I mean,
Speaker 9: I think.
Speaker 8: What they did was they took the original shamanistic practices
Speaker 8: that the ancients were doing in order to be able
Speaker 8: to gain knowledge for their tribe and their people, and
Speaker 8: basically took those practices and weaponize them and turn them
Speaker 8: into trauma based mind control.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, And then you have to ask, you know,
Speaker 9: once again the question of to what end, what's the purpose?
Speaker 9: I mean, obviously, you know, if you can control people,
Speaker 9: if you can break them fundamentally and then reinstill them
Speaker 9: a new identity, well then you can control them and
Speaker 9: you can have them do the little things that you
Speaker 9: want to, like I don't know, maybe past legislation or
Speaker 9: move culture in a certain direction, but I would say
Speaker 9: that overwhelmingly, even when it comes back to the shamans, like,
Speaker 9: there are obviously good things that you can do in
Speaker 9: this realm. But every once in a while, some entitiy
Speaker 9: is going to slip in and say, hey, you guys
Speaker 9: would benefit greatly if you had agriculture.
Speaker 1: Why don't you start doing that. I'll show you how
Speaker 1: to do that.
Speaker 9: And then once you get there, this whatever it is
Speaker 9: is willing to play a very very long.
Speaker 8: Game important role and then they sacrifice to that entity,
Speaker 8: and you know, and it lasts a certain amount of
Speaker 8: time and yeah, and then it repapated.
Speaker 1: They worship it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they repac That's the thing too, is like a
Speaker 9: lot of this is about worship. It's an energetic exchange, right.
Speaker 9: We all are comfortable with the idea that there are
Speaker 9: entities that seek to loose off of us. They put
Speaker 9: us to a trauma event and then they eat off
Speaker 9: that negative energy. But worship and veneration, I think is
Speaker 9: the highest form of energy that they want. And so
Speaker 9: I think it actually becomes very tricky for them because
Speaker 9: they're obvious skating their name throughout history, because if you
Speaker 9: know their name, then you can cast them out. I
Speaker 9: think the spiritual realm is in incredibly legal, and the
Speaker 9: reason it's so legal is because there is no physicality
Speaker 9: in that realm, so it leaves it leans heavily on
Speaker 9: these like spiritual legal principles and so yeah, I mean
Speaker 9: they can't give you their name because they don't want
Speaker 9: to get casted out, and I think that kind of
Speaker 9: screws up the ability to get worshiped from us.
Speaker 1: They'll take some worship, like a worship one of their names.
Speaker 9: I don't think it's as potent as knowing their true name,
Speaker 9: but they live a pretty shitty existence in that way.
Speaker 8: So Tom Horn speculates that the one is many on
Speaker 8: the dollar bill is representative of the one God that
Speaker 8: comes back in many forms through all of time that
Speaker 8: you know, is this like trickster that seeks to gain
Speaker 8: our supplication?
Speaker 9: Yes, you know, I think even the Q and non
Speaker 9: narrative is part of what we're moving into. And I
Speaker 9: think that the Q is like Quetzel Quadal, right, the
Speaker 9: winged serpent, like you know, Mesopotamia, like or I'm sorry,
Speaker 9: Mayan mythology. And I think that even that, like I
Speaker 9: saw something once and this suddenly resonated with me, and
Speaker 9: so it's it's really just a kind of a throwaway terminology.
Speaker 9: But this idea of like where we go one we
Speaker 9: go all sounds a lot like the pack that was
Speaker 9: made on Mount Herman when they were casting out right.
Speaker 8: So also when you look at the Q Anon right,
Speaker 8: it was Hiramobif as far as the master Mason, the
Speaker 8: you know, the grand architect of Solomon's temple that basically
Speaker 8: had a son whose name was Anon and he was
Speaker 8: the master of the craft. So this Anon idea, and
Speaker 8: it links right in with attis in regardless.
Speaker 1: That's funny too.
Speaker 9: Because it's also ingrained with like the kech frog and everything,
Speaker 9: like you know, the Egyptian god of chaos or whatever
Speaker 9: it is, all of these things. We're getting so much
Speaker 9: shit repackaged. Like even that if if people are having
Speaker 9: a hard time thinking that aliens are just repackaged demonic entities,
Speaker 9: that's very reductive, but like you know, that's the kind
Speaker 9: of the heart of it. You just need to look
Speaker 9: at like the Pepe the frog meme and ask why
Speaker 9: this this this meme that is like synonymous with chaos
Speaker 9: and behaves even like one of the plagues of Egypt. Right,
Speaker 9: if you screw up on the internet, the anons are
Speaker 9: coming for you. You're gonna get inundated with Pepe frogs
Speaker 9: until you die.
Speaker 1: And then what do they do?
Speaker 9: They're literally saying, kek is is a world of warcraft
Speaker 9: speak for lol. And then all of a sudden you
Speaker 9: find that there's an Egyptian god of chaos called kek
Speaker 9: and it's a frog. And then frogs are even you know,
Speaker 9: two gender, like they're dual gender in that way they
Speaker 9: kind of move back and forth or they can, and
Speaker 9: so there's like this trans element to it, and you
Speaker 9: look at the theme of the culture that we live
Speaker 9: in right now, and it's transcentric. I mean that to
Speaker 9: me screams rebranding, and I'll dismount on my tangent here.
Speaker 9: I don't think people have the ability to play that high.
Speaker 1: Level of chess.
Speaker 9: I think the only thing that has the ability to
Speaker 9: play that high level of chess is something that's been
Speaker 9: around a lot longer than an individual's lifetime.
Speaker 2: Yes, we can just ask Alex Jones about the gay frogs.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's he knows all about it. Lisa, I
Speaker 2: feel like you were going to say something a minute ago.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was. To your point, Raven, this tides into
Speaker 7: a tub Offster is talking about the elf. So the
Speaker 7: human resonance is considered like the heartbeat of the earth,
Speaker 7: and it exists at seven point eight megahurtz or something
Speaker 7: like that. It's a very it's a what is it,
Speaker 7: extremely low frequency, that's what they call it. But one
Speaker 7: of the interesting things that they've found with the human
Speaker 7: resonance is that it is not only similar to the
Speaker 7: alpha brain waves, it is identical. And so whenever you
Speaker 7: want to talk about creativity, you want to talk about
Speaker 7: grounding or you want to talk about any kind of
Speaker 7: like connection that is, the connection is to the earth,
Speaker 7: is to the human resonance, to the brain waves. And
Speaker 7: so this is the part where you start talking about
Speaker 7: human consciousness, you start talking about you know, like a
Speaker 7: higher sell or whatever. I do think that when you
Speaker 7: intermix these other what you call are not artificial but
Speaker 7: manufactured frequencies, whether they are from electronics or they're from
Speaker 7: what have, you start to disrupt that, You start to
Speaker 7: interrupt that, and you cut off the connection itself. And
Speaker 7: you were absolutely right, you know, in terms of like
Speaker 7: with some of the technology, it is it's a scriing screen.
Speaker 7: It is your so to speak, your Ouiji board, just
Speaker 7: with a keyboard. Really you want you know. The other
Speaker 7: thing is Charles Babbage, who actually invented the first computer
Speaker 7: back in the eighteen twenties. He did so by summoning
Speaker 7: the devil, according to you know texts. So of course
Speaker 7: you do have this kind of and and the devil
Speaker 7: I use loosely right, because that could be anything, anybody,
Speaker 7: any whatever. I think it's it's the antithesis, the antithesis
Speaker 7: of your connection with the earth, your connection with you know,
Speaker 7: where you come from, right.
Speaker 5: Right, absolutely, and you know the Gateway tapes are supposed
Speaker 5: to help you go to that frequency.
Speaker 9: Yeah, shout out to uh our buddy Donut he did
Speaker 9: he you know, says that he did the Gateway method
Speaker 9: and then was able to view like something that he
Speaker 9: thought was the Akashak records.
Speaker 1: I don't know to what.
Speaker 9: Degree, but I think, like all of these things, even
Speaker 9: the Akashak records or what the Gateway program is teaching us,
Speaker 9: this is I think in order for us to not
Speaker 9: understand what inhabits that realm, you first had to remove
Speaker 9: that realm from our perception.
Speaker 1: And then after a long time.
Speaker 9: Of you know, psyopping us and propagandizing us, then you
Speaker 9: can reintroduce it. But you have to reintroduce it in
Speaker 9: a controlled way, and that controlled way is going to
Speaker 9: be an arm of you know, the intelligence agencies, the
Speaker 9: same ones that are running the UK ulture programs and everything.
Speaker 2: Kind of a question for you guys, death Squad, what
Speaker 2: do you think of? What do you think of? Like
Speaker 2: this the first Nephil episode I ever did. I brought
Speaker 2: this up. There was a Netflix series. It was something
Speaker 2: Graham Hancock Bull about ancient floods. Yeah, ancient apocalypse, Okay,
Speaker 2: but there's bits of truth in there if you just
Speaker 2: look at it from a different perspective. And for me,
Speaker 2: it's like the repackaging thing. All ancient cultures talk about
Speaker 2: the flood. All ancient cultures talk about these beings that
Speaker 2: showed up quatsaquadal is one of them, and they taught
Speaker 2: them agriculture. They talked about giants roaming the earth. There's
Speaker 2: all these megalithic structures all over the world. Nobody knows
Speaker 2: how they got there, nobody knows why they are built
Speaker 2: in alignment with these stars and nobody and they all
Speaker 2: practice these like you know, ancient kind of like sacrificing
Speaker 2: and doing these things, Babylonian type shit, And so you're right,
Speaker 2: and it's like it really is just kind of repackaged
Speaker 2: throughout cultures, different names for the same type of beings.
Speaker 2: Different So, I mean, I think Graham Hancock is probably
Speaker 2: weaponized against us in a way because he does come
Speaker 2: from the Guy A network too. He was on there
Speaker 2: all the time with David Wilcock and all of them.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what you guys think about that.
Speaker 2: But to go along with the theme of like repackaging things.
Speaker 2: They're selling us the right story. I mean, the flood
Speaker 2: did happen, but it's like they sell it to us
Speaker 2: in a way where it's like, well, they're coming back
Speaker 2: for us, and they're extraterrestrials and they're ascended masters and
Speaker 2: the xyz you know, fill in the blank, whatever it
Speaker 2: is that you want to call him.
Speaker 4: I think that in order to sell a truth, in
Speaker 4: order to sell a lie, you have to have a
Speaker 4: lot of truth in there. But if you're really good
Speaker 4: at selling the lie, like I'm famous on Twitter for
Speaker 4: saying I got on a big appearance on some show
Speaker 4: and I just he was like, you did a tweet
Speaker 4: and you misled people, And I said, yeah, I fucking
Speaker 4: lie to the people.
Speaker 1: And it was easy.
Speaker 4: It was easy because I told them the truth, but
Speaker 4: I gave him a little bit of a lie that
Speaker 4: they wanted to believe. And I did it on purpose
Speaker 4: to make an example out of stupid people. But that's
Speaker 4: how you sell the lie. So it's like ninety nine
Speaker 4: truths and then one thing. And the one thing is
Speaker 4: usually something like the original sin or the original lie,
Speaker 4: where it's like you can be like God's but and
Speaker 4: most people don't really even ask a question like like God,
Speaker 4: like sure, I'll eat it that fruit, and then all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, yeah, sign me up, and now we
Speaker 4: know how the rest of the story goes. So that's
Speaker 4: kind of always what it is. So whenever someone's telling
Speaker 4: me these things, or like we're hearing these stories, they're
Speaker 4: fascinating and they're all like true, they all ring very true.
Speaker 4: You watch a Disney movie that shit rings very true,
Speaker 4: but there's always one very specific lie in there, and
Speaker 4: if you don't know to parse it out, you'll end
Speaker 4: up believing this stuff and be very confused when you
Speaker 4: know things start to play out in a different way
Speaker 4: than you expect it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you guys would say like, oh, go ahead.
Speaker 9: I was just gonna say they they're telling you that
Speaker 9: you're special and you could be as gods in one
Speaker 9: way or another. Right right now, we're exploring this like
Speaker 9: telepathy kind of angle, and it's like, yeah, we've been
Speaker 9: inundated with like superhero films and shit because of that
Speaker 9: in very many ways, Like you watch Avengers and then
Speaker 9: when the fucking credits roll, you're like, my life fucking sucks,
Speaker 9: or like did.
Speaker 2: You guys watch watch that Amazon prat the boys.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a much more and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 9: that's a much more accurate version of what it would be.
Speaker 2: Like I think so too. But so like, let's take
Speaker 2: Andrea for instance. He's a bad guy in this story, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, at least I would say so, because it's
Speaker 2: like Lisa says, she uses the term devil, you know,
Speaker 2: loosely what she can't do. But I do feel like
Speaker 2: there is darkness and there is light forces, and I
Speaker 2: think he falls into the camp of tightly being an asshole,
Speaker 2: so not loosely.
Speaker 9: Two things on that number one, just going back to
Speaker 9: your original question, like you know, the whole flood Mythos
Speaker 9: Timothy album Reno, he's really an amateur archaeologist and a
Speaker 9: bit of a theologian. I don't agree with everything he says,
Speaker 9: but something that he brought to our attention on our show,
Speaker 9: which I did think was fascinating, is the Peruvian government
Speaker 9: has one explanation as to how their megalithic structures got there.
Speaker 1: But if you get to the.
Speaker 9: People that are living in a way that is to
Speaker 9: say they are descendants of the Inca, many of those
Speaker 9: people have their own ideas and they will say that
Speaker 9: a race of giants created It wasn't even the Inca
Speaker 9: that created the megalithic structures they found it. A race
Speaker 9: of giants created the megalithic structures. They were cannibalistic and evil.
Speaker 9: It's interesting that they even use the word cannibalistic, because
Speaker 9: that's insinuating that they share some lineage with us, or
Speaker 9: else it wouldn't be cannibalistic to eat us. But they
Speaker 9: were doing that, and their overarching kind of head God
Speaker 9: sent floodwaters to kill them.
Speaker 1: And so fascinating correlation right there.
Speaker 9: But as far as is he a good guy or
Speaker 9: is he a bad guy? You know, when I started
Speaker 9: this whole conspiracy journey, you have to start to attribute
Speaker 9: some sort of attributes to, like the proverbial they. Who
Speaker 9: is the they that is pulling all the strings? Who
Speaker 9: on earth has the ability to play this long of
Speaker 9: a con that has this many moving parts, And now
Speaker 9: all these years later the juice, now, all these years later,
Speaker 9: I'm very comfortable with the idea that like it's compartmentalized,
Speaker 9: much like a Bob Lazar story when he goes to
Speaker 9: S two and he's like, I'm only in charge of
Speaker 9: propulsion there are other people in charge of like metallurgy
Speaker 9: and stuff.
Speaker 1: We're not allowed to swap ideas.
Speaker 9: I think the compartmentalization that exists within this structure actually
Speaker 9: is like a pyramid.
Speaker 1: Somebody close to the.
Speaker 9: Top is communicating knowingly and purposely with entities. But that
Speaker 9: is a very small group, and some of them are
Speaker 9: even possessed by them. But the further you go down,
Speaker 9: there are times when you know, Top and eye on
Speaker 9: Nefolin Deth Squad find ourselves on a topic or moving
Speaker 9: culture in a strange way that like we didn't antic shit.
Speaker 1: Goes viral on Twitter.
Speaker 9: Next thing you know, Milo Yilis is calling himself a
Speaker 9: dangerous retard, which is the namesake of one of our shows.
Speaker 1: And it's like, either we're really good at branding, or.
Speaker 9: Ideas are alive in some way and maybe they are
Speaker 9: disseminated by a spiritual realm. And I think so many
Speaker 9: of us are not aware of the ways in which
Speaker 9: we move and how it relates to other things. And
Speaker 9: so when it comes to Andreaj Buharaj, I don't necessarily
Speaker 9: know that he is a bad guy. He might have
Speaker 9: been told that he's special. He might have been told
Speaker 9: that it's important what he's doing, and he might have
Speaker 9: been told that he needs to, you know, spearhead this
Speaker 9: thing and push them into push it into the culture.
Speaker 9: It's very far and few in between that you can
Speaker 9: get anybody to engage in knowing evil.
Speaker 1: We're not really like that. Human beings, we.
Speaker 4: Don't really like Andrisia did exactly what he was supposed
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 2: He was an unaware bad guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're willing doing. Yeah.
Speaker 8: I mean, one one more thing I was going to
Speaker 8: say before we get off the top and we're running
Speaker 8: out of time is in the seventies early seventies, poo
Speaker 8: Horridge actually has a patent for the electro decay.
Speaker 3: Of water.
Speaker 2: Too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he.
Speaker 8: Was actually driving around the Yeah, he was driving around
Speaker 8: the country in a motor home that he had converted
Speaker 8: to run on water. So this is the earliest story,
Speaker 8: even before the guy in the eighties that had the
Speaker 8: car that they say disappeared that ran on water. But yeah,
Speaker 8: so poo Horrig seems to be the origin of this
Speaker 8: running a vehicle on water every day as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's dipping his toe into everyone's pond.
Speaker 9: That it makes me feel bad, It makes me feel
Speaker 9: like Damn, dude, I'm not inventing shit. I'm literally just
Speaker 9: telling you stuff that has already happened, that is already existing.
Speaker 9: I'm you know, I'm researching something that somebody else did recently,
Speaker 9: or John, Like, damn, this guy. You know, say what
Speaker 9: you will about him. He was a pioneer. He was
Speaker 9: a trail blazer. And are we, you know, uh better
Speaker 9: for all of the things that he explored Now, probably
Speaker 9: probably not, but he certainly explored them first man, and
Speaker 9: he certainly, uh, he certainly was a trail blazer.
Speaker 1: Here's a question. Would you have liked to interview him
Speaker 1: or talk to him? Hell? Yeah, It's like, yeah, all.
Speaker 2: You gotta do to be a trailblazer, I guess is
Speaker 2: come with demons, slice your neck open, bleed into a cup,
Speaker 2: feed it to a baby.
Speaker 3: You know, just the.
Speaker 2: Basic thing, just right, Yeah, put some mushrooms in your
Speaker 2: bee hole. These are things. These are just the basic things.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I don't know. The Ecclesiastes, right, I
Speaker 9: spoke an Ecclesiastes famously says it's nothing new under the
Speaker 9: sun that truer and truer every single day of my life,
Speaker 9: not even every episode I do, like every day of
Speaker 9: my life, I'm exposed to something that has some ancient connectivity.
Speaker 9: You know, it happened way back in the day, it
Speaker 9: happens slightly different. And so in that way, whatever Pouharich
Speaker 9: is doing, maybe it's not champion him too much. He's
Speaker 9: probably just rehashing and definitely is rehashing old principles, old ideas,
Speaker 9: old technology.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know if he's a bad guy.
Speaker 9: I don't know if I would say the amount of
Speaker 9: actual bad guys is probably you know, when they say
Speaker 9: like the proverbial one percent, of that one percent, there's
Speaker 9: probably ten percent. So I don't know what that I'm
Speaker 9: not good at math. Don't make me do it. But
Speaker 9: I would say of that one there's probably like ten
Speaker 9: percent that are actually evil.
Speaker 1: And those people are.
Speaker 9: Like, you know, they're channeling their community, yes, and some
Speaker 9: of them are channeling and communicating and still think they're
Speaker 9: good guys. There is a small sub sect of those
Speaker 9: that are in the know, because there has to be right, Like,
Speaker 9: we can't be sitting here musing about these things, wondering
Speaker 9: about whether or not they're rebranding and gonna you know,
Speaker 9: cast themselves as our saviors, and shit, we didn't.
Speaker 1: That's not We're not smart, you.
Speaker 9: Know what I mean, Like somebody else is smart, and
Speaker 9: so somebody else at the top has to know that.
Speaker 1: And I do believe that that's true. I do believe.
Speaker 9: The more and more I look at this, the more
Speaker 9: I go, oh, this is a rebranding. In fact, our
Speaker 9: first appearance on tinfoil hat that was the narrative that
Speaker 9: we were going with, that this is the fallen you know,
Speaker 9: because people don't like when you say aliens or demons.
Speaker 9: It's like in the Bible they say devil's demons and
Speaker 9: unclean spirits, and there's a little bit of nuance there.
Speaker 9: But I think within those three categories there's actually much
Speaker 9: more nuance. It would be a good thing if we
Speaker 9: could figure out the language to convey that to people,
Speaker 9: because that narrative of aliens or demons is getting very tired.
Speaker 9: But that lens of like I think, these are just
Speaker 9: ancient entities rebranding themselves has just bore good fruit after
Speaker 9: good fruit after good fruit.
Speaker 1: We keep finding more and more valid connections.
Speaker 9: And I know that's also called confirmation bias, but we
Speaker 9: all age in that and to some degree. I have
Speaker 9: a theory and I'm trying to parse it out and
Speaker 9: see if there's any veracity to it, and it just
Speaker 9: it's the gift that keeps on giving. So I don't
Speaker 9: think that we found that. I think somebody has to know.
Speaker 5: Sure, Yeah, we're almost about two hours now, so maybe
Speaker 5: we'll wrap it up here. That was a really long,
Speaker 5: in depth, interesting chat. I really appreciate all of you
Speaker 5: for coming on for that. I mean there was a
Speaker 5: lot said here. I think a lot of good stuff.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: This was fun man, Hell yeah it was.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I really like, yeah, maybe we'll do this again one
Speaker 5: day in the future.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of good sense I would like to
Speaker 1: say too.
Speaker 9: Typically, like to top does a show with like five people,
Speaker 9: I only do a show with you know, two or three,
Speaker 9: and then I could guest. And typically these things are
Speaker 9: very hard to navigate. You guys do a killer job
Speaker 9: at this if like allowing everybody to speak, because you
Speaker 9: get a bunch of people excited about a topic and everybody.
Speaker 1: Just wants to shout over.
Speaker 9: I'm guilty of that, like crazy, I always have to
Speaker 9: reel it in, and so I just want to say,
Speaker 9: this is an excellent com You guys are great and
Speaker 9: it's really played out nicely. I think it made for
Speaker 9: a good listening experience, which for a lot of shows
Speaker 9: isn't always the case when you have this many people.
Speaker 1: But I think we nailed it.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, no, that is one thing I have
Speaker 5: to admit with the show. Whenever we have I mean,
Speaker 5: we've had more people on than this at a time,
Speaker 5: it actually goes really well. So yeah, I had a
Speaker 5: feeling it would work out well today. We'll have to
Speaker 5: do it again in the future. Like I said, real quick, guys,
Speaker 5: please plug your stuff. We'll start with you top Lobster.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can go to toplopster dot com. That's where
Speaker 4: I run my merchandising business and go there, buy a
Speaker 4: T shirt, or check us out at Nephlim Desk Squad.
Speaker 4: That's a Nephilim however you spell that desk squad at
Speaker 4: We're everywhere if you if you like insane racist comedy,
Speaker 4: you can go to Tower Gang as well and Dangerous Retards.
Speaker 4: That's going to be a fun show. We talked to
Speaker 4: our normy friend who has a very large political audience,
Speaker 4: and we tell him crazy shit and then we see
Speaker 4: what he says.
Speaker 5: Yes, awesome, thank you very much. And Raven, you want
Speaker 5: to hear anything.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you guys can find me on Twitter. I'm most
Speaker 9: active on there. That's at David L. Corbo Corbo and yeah,
Speaker 9: go and find Neflim Death Squad wherever you a Ken.
Speaker 9: This is the kind of conversations that we're having regularly
Speaker 9: on this show, and so if you're a fan of
Speaker 9: the Occult Rejects, you might find yourself being a fan
Speaker 9: of Neflim Death Squad.
Speaker 5: Highly suggest said yeah, definitely go check out their channel.
Speaker 5: I really do think there are topics over there that
Speaker 5: you are very interesting. That's why I asked them all
Speaker 5: and everybody else. You got Jim the Ninja, we got Julia,
Speaker 5: and we got Robbie Marks. I got all of their
Speaker 5: links in the bottom now and if they're not I
Speaker 5: will make sure they are after the slide, where I'm
Speaker 5: pretty sure they're there already. Thank you all very much
Speaker 5: again for joining me. I thought that was again an
Speaker 5: amazing episode. There was a lot going on in the chat.
Speaker 5: I got lost in there for most of the show.
Speaker 5: Thank you everybody who jumped in, especially all the comments
Speaker 5: from the Nephylum Death squad fans and listeners. That's what's up.
Speaker 5: I was able to see him on my end in
Speaker 5: stream Yard, a lot of good stuff, man, I really
Speaker 5: appreciate it, and I'm really glad we went live. Uh.
Speaker 5: And that is the end of another Occult Rejects and
Speaker 5: until the next one, everybody be well later