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Speaker 1: It turns out in the big Beautiful Bill, and we've
Speaker 1: talked about it more broadly and we will some more.
Speaker 1: There is forty million dollars to kick off. Now it'll
Speaker 1: cost a lot more than that in the end. But
Speaker 1: this garden of American Heroes that President Trumps has wanted
Speaker 1: for a long time, and I think he's right to
Speaker 1: or they're going to be two hundred and fifty life
Speaker 1: size statues and then you'll get the full story regarding
Speaker 1: the individuals, if you know you're a kid or any
Speaker 1: of us wandering through this garden in DC, two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty American heroes, because I mean, you can only
Speaker 1: have so many big heads in Mount Rushmore, right, Mount
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore, as they say in English, is awesome. But
Speaker 1: that's led to the conversation of a Colorado Garden of Heroes,
Speaker 1: a Garden of Colorado Heroes, whose life size statues would
Speaker 1: you want there? Ed, We're gonna have a hero from
Speaker 1: the pro life movement join us in a minute as well.
Speaker 1: But our lines are in fuego on this. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: fly through and find out who people want in the
Speaker 1: Colorado Garden of Heroes.
Speaker 2: James and you go, you go, my friend.
Speaker 3: Thank you. You've never heard that before, seven and eighteen times. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: I would nominate I believe it was Lieutenant Silas Sewell,
Speaker 3: who was a part of Shovington's the soldiers who went
Speaker 3: down to the Sand Creek massacre, and Lieutenant Sewell.
Speaker 4: Held his men.
Speaker 3: No motionless and would not take part in the massacre
Speaker 3: when the hearing was held in Denver. After that the
Speaker 3: whatever it was, after he testified, he was ambushed and
Speaker 3: killed in Denver. And I think that he took a
Speaker 3: very principal stand, and I would nominate his name.
Speaker 1: Hey, you go, I'm sorry, James, and you go, thank
Speaker 1: you for that. I'm going to look him up during
Speaker 1: the break. I didn't know that story. Thank you, man,
Speaker 1: appreciate that. I wonder is that who Sewell Hall is
Speaker 1: named after? On CU I don't know, might just be
Speaker 1: a donor. But I'm going to look that up during
Speaker 1: the break. Larry and Thornton. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5: Welcome, Hello, Dan. I didn't know if you had seen
Speaker 5: the item on TV four or five nights ago. They
Speaker 5: said that Trump had submitted a different portrait, yes, since
Speaker 5: he didn't like the one that Colorado.
Speaker 2: Had understandably, Well, did you see that?
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, Well, it looked to me like somebody had
Speaker 5: taken his mugshot and converted the color to atrocious colors,
Speaker 5: reds and orison made it look like an angry I
Speaker 5: don't know somebody, but I cannot believe that was really true.
Speaker 5: I think that's got to be fake.
Speaker 1: Interesting and Larry, my understanding was the President approved of
Speaker 1: the new one and he liked that look, but appreciate
Speaker 1: the call. Would you agree with me the old one
Speaker 1: that had to go?
Speaker 2: That just wasn't anything.
Speaker 5: Well, it didn't really even look like resemblance. No, it
Speaker 5: looked Moss. It looked more like the guy that plays
Speaker 5: Trump on Saturday Night Lost.
Speaker 1: Trump well said, well, said thank you Elaine in Denver.
Speaker 1: You're on the Dan Kapla s.
Speaker 2: You're welcome.
Speaker 6: Hi there, Dan, my suggestion for a garden of heroes.
Speaker 6: Do you remember back when they had Daddy Bruce Randall.
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, yes, yes, he should be there. Great suggestion.
Speaker 6: He had so many free Thanksgiving dinner, yes, that he prepared,
Speaker 6: not just for the homeless, but for anybody, anybody, even
Speaker 6: I could go down there and if I wanted to,
Speaker 6: And I always wanted to volunteer downtown with him, but
Speaker 6: I never did. And then he passed on. I don't
Speaker 6: know if he had anybody take over for that, yeah
Speaker 6: situation or not. I don't know if he had kids.
Speaker 6: And I think Dan, they may have named the street
Speaker 6: after him.
Speaker 1: Yeah they did, But you are one hundred percent right
Speaker 1: a lane, and thank you for that. Yet, Daddy Bruce Randolph,
Speaker 1: he should be in that Garden of heroes. And if
Speaker 1: you're new to the state, you don't know the name.
Speaker 1: See that's why we need a garden of Heroes, just
Speaker 1: like Trump is now doing through the Big Beautiful Bill,
Speaker 1: because these are people who need to be remembered for
Speaker 1: what they did individually, but also what they symbolize and
Speaker 1: represent and the best of us and what we want
Speaker 1: to let our kids know what it is we value.
Speaker 2: Speaking of a hero.
Speaker 1: This woman is a tremendous hero the civil rights issue
Speaker 1: of our day, which is life and the right to life.
Speaker 1: Doctor Catherine Willer used to be an abortionist. She used
Speaker 1: to perform abortions, and now she saves babies and those
Speaker 1: are the ultimate heroes of this movement. But she joins
Speaker 1: us each week to talk about medicine, you know, as
Speaker 1: a physician, to talk about medical issues relating to abortion.
Speaker 1: And today, given the South Carolina decision which allowed that state,
Speaker 1: as you know by nowicing no, we're not funding abortion,
Speaker 1: you know, through a medicaid program. Wanted to get the
Speaker 1: doctor's take on whether this decrease of government funding of
Speaker 1: planned paranoide, which is also through the Big Beautiful Bill,
Speaker 1: will affect the safety net of essential women's healthcare. This
Speaker 1: from a medical perspective, Doctor, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 7: Hello Dan, thanks for having me back and thanks for
Speaker 7: letting me talk about this. And I heard you talking
Speaker 7: about it last week and saw a lot in the
Speaker 7: news these claims that unless Planned Parenthood has government funding
Speaker 7: in places like South Carolina and across the country, that
Speaker 7: people who are at risk, low income people will not
Speaker 7: be able to access care adequately. So I mean, is
Speaker 7: that really true? So three primary things I would think of.
Speaker 7: First of all, South Carolina had a right to not
Speaker 7: fund Planned Parenthood because they have a law that they
Speaker 7: they don't use public funds to go to abortion providers.
Speaker 7: And of course, funds going to Planned Parenthood are fungible,
Speaker 7: so even if it does not directly pay for an abortion,
Speaker 7: it can be used for any of their other operating expenses,
Speaker 7: which frees them up for their primary mission, which really
Speaker 7: is abortion and advocacy, So they're really subsidizing abortion. Secondly,
Speaker 7: Planned Parenthood likes to say that they're a medical provider
Speaker 7: of all kinds of healthcare services, not just for women
Speaker 7: but for men, and they're doing a lot of gender
Speaker 7: care now, but really they're primarily an abortion provider. So
Speaker 7: when you look at their annual report, and the last
Speaker 7: one that I saw was twenty two to twenty three,
Speaker 7: what they do is they count individual services that they
Speaker 7: provide and they count them as equal value, no matter
Speaker 7: what their revenue is. So for example, a woman comes
Speaker 7: in primarily for an abortion, and so they don't count
Speaker 7: that as one visit. They count every single thing they
Speaker 7: do for her separately, So a pregnancy test, medication, for coming,
Speaker 7: that's the infection screening, her exam, her counseling, contraception for
Speaker 7: afterwards or perhaps near and then the abortion, and they
Speaker 7: count them as you goal value, So she may get
Speaker 7: eight or ten services, and the abortion may bring in
Speaker 7: revenue of five hundred and eighty dollars average if it's
Speaker 7: a drug, two thousand average if it's surgery. But everything
Speaker 7: there is counted as equal value, and so it's greatly diluted.
Speaker 7: So when they say four percent of what they do
Speaker 7: is abortion, very twisted numbers.
Speaker 1: But doesn't that tell you something, doctor, Doesn't it tell
Speaker 1: you that even Planned Parenthood is embarrassed that they do
Speaker 1: these abortions. Right, And just like the core terminology of
Speaker 1: the big abortion movement, which is that they don't even
Speaker 1: want to use the word abortion anymore. They've got to
Speaker 1: call it something else because so many people have seen
Speaker 1: ultrasounds now they get it that abortion is the taking
Speaker 1: of an instant human life. So they have to call
Speaker 1: it reproductive health care or something else.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they do disccount that that's really the primary thing
Speaker 7: they do. They want to be seen as healthcare providers.
Speaker 7: But we've talked about this. This is not healthcare because
Speaker 7: it ends a patient's life and it doesn't promote health obviously.
Speaker 7: You know the other part of this is women have
Speaker 7: better options for care. So plant period does not do
Speaker 7: comprehensive care if she wants to continue her pregnancy, they
Speaker 7: don't do prenatal care, they don't do primary care, ongoing
Speaker 7: primary care, they refer for all of that. In fact,
Speaker 7: less than one percent of the paps and you'res done
Speaker 7: in the United States are done the planned parenthoods. So
Speaker 7: we're not going to miss them. If they're not providing
Speaker 7: that service, where will people go. Well, we've got federally
Speaker 7: qualified health centers outnumber planned parenthood fifteen to one. In
Speaker 7: the fact, one in ten Americans access that, and they
Speaker 7: do provide all of the comprehensive primary healthcare for low
Speaker 7: income and vulnerable under serve populations. So no, we're not
Speaker 7: going to have people not being able to access care.
Speaker 7: There is the ability to get really excellent, high quality,
Speaker 7: comprehensive care, truly comprehensive healthcare in other ways that planned
Speaker 7: parenthood is actually not really providing.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that.
Speaker 1: And obviously, you know, coming from your medical perspective, it
Speaker 1: carries even more weight with folks, as each of these
Speaker 1: segments do right, because I'm just a firm believer the
Speaker 1: truth will set us free, including from the scourge of abortion.
Speaker 1: And the more people who know the true medical facts
Speaker 1: when it comes to this that the more people who
Speaker 1: are going to shift toward life. So thank you, doctor,
Speaker 1: and any big independence state plans.
Speaker 7: Well, I will be going to Woodland Park.
Speaker 2: Nice. Nice, That's it's beautiful up there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna have a blast. It's our thirty first
Speaker 1: anniversary today. And assuming she's still there when I get home,
Speaker 1: and I expect, yes, Yeah, our boys coming in tonight,
Speaker 1: our boys coming in tonight from his job in DC.
Speaker 1: And our daughter who's was out in the trial prep
Speaker 1: trip with me because she's on our trial team, is
Speaker 1: coming home.
Speaker 2: We're all going to be together.
Speaker 1: And as everybody knows, that's nirvana, right when you got
Speaker 1: the crew together.
Speaker 7: Oh, isn't that true? Well, I hope you have just
Speaker 7: the most wonderful fourth of July.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, we will you take care.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 1: That's doctor Catherine Wheeler, and sure appreciate her time this week.
Speaker 1: And it's it's a really cool thing about the pro
Speaker 1: life movement. And I've been privileged to have a very
Speaker 1: very very small part in it for many, many decades
Speaker 1: because my mom I considered to be one of the
Speaker 1: founders of the movement after Roe back on the South
Speaker 1: Side of Chicago. But anyway, within this movement, you know,
Speaker 1: the ultimate heroes my perception, I think almost everybody'd say
Speaker 1: the same thing are the women who've had abortions and
Speaker 1: then help save other lives and other women from abortions.
Speaker 1: And the doctors who used to perform abortions like our
Speaker 1: last guest, and then say no, this is wrong and
Speaker 1: we need to go out and save lives. Hey, when
Speaker 1: we come back, the President, he's getting the American Garden
Speaker 1: of Heroes in the big beautiful bill. Who should be
Speaker 1: in a Colorado Garden of Heroes? You're on the Dan
Speaker 1: Kapla Show.
Speaker 8: And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 9: Now the most important vote of this Congress, and I
Speaker 9: think this may be the most important vote that any
Speaker 9: of us take in our entire lifetimes. And everybody better
Speaker 9: remember it. However you vote today, my friends, the President
Speaker 9: of the United States is waiting with his pen. The
Speaker 9: American people are waiting for this relief. We've heard enough
Speaker 9: talk it's time for action. Let's finish the job for him.
Speaker 4: Vote yes on the bill that was pretty well done
Speaker 4: and they did so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, really impressed with Speaker Johnson.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I talk with you about that when I
Speaker 1: had the privilege of interviewing in one on one and
Speaker 1: just came away thinking, Yeah, no, this this guy, I
Speaker 1: mean just absolutely brilliant and tough and principled and yeah,
Speaker 1: and he has risen to that position. And my goodness,
Speaker 1: I mean, think about all the good things that says
Speaker 1: to America on a conscious direct but also an implicit
Speaker 1: kind of level, about the competence and the unity and
Speaker 1: the coherence of the GOP that they were able to
Speaker 1: pull this off. And whether somebody likes everything that's in
Speaker 1: the bill or doesn't urse a mix, the fact that
Speaker 1: GOP was able to keep these slim majorities together and
Speaker 1: get this bill passed. That is a testament to leadership.
Speaker 1: It's a testament to unity and to the ability to
Speaker 1: get things done. And again, I don't claim to be
Speaker 1: an expert on this bill, but it will also it'll
Speaker 1: be great for the country in that sense, right, because
Speaker 1: the Democrats are total mess and the GOP now is
Speaker 1: together and organized and unified enough to get.
Speaker 2: A bill like this through.
Speaker 1: That contrast helps, and it's important to the greatest nation
Speaker 1: on earth to have at least one functioning, unified political party,
Speaker 1: and no sane person would suggest to you the Democrats
Speaker 1: are so that contrast is good for the GOP heading
Speaker 1: into a midterm year, and good for the country the
Speaker 1: bill itself. And again I don't claim to know everything
Speaker 1: in there, but I think Trump has shown. Trump has
Speaker 1: shown a tremendous ability when it comes to understanding what
Speaker 1: makes this US economy go and how to get it there.
Speaker 1: And so he's fully committed to this idea of growing
Speaker 1: our way out of this debt and deficit trouble. And
Speaker 1: so this bill is intended to provide.
Speaker 2: That kind of fuel. And so I think he has.
Speaker 1: Earned that trust and I'm looking forward to watching it happen.
Speaker 1: I mean selfishly, Yeah, I'm happy there isn't going to
Speaker 1: be the tax increase that would have happened if the
Speaker 1: Trump tax cuts had expired, which they would have without
Speaker 1: this bill. And I haven't seen the particulars yet on
Speaker 1: no tax on tips, But I.
Speaker 2: Just love the idea.
Speaker 1: I love the idea that so many working people are
Speaker 1: going to get that kind of relief. I was always
Speaker 1: raised to believe and I still believe it and do
Speaker 1: my best to live it.
Speaker 2: That about the best money you.
Speaker 1: Can spend, other than if there's a starving person in
Speaker 1: front of you, the best money you can spend is
Speaker 1: on tipping people because those I mean, you get a
Speaker 1: chance to meet the person, just size them up.
Speaker 2: You know they're out there working hard.
Speaker 1: And it's just kind of that direct return and the
Speaker 1: idea that people don't have to pay money on those tips.
Speaker 1: And I used to work for tips as a golf
Speaker 1: caddy and short time as a bartender until it interfered
Speaker 1: with studies too much. Plus, at that time, Zach, I
Speaker 1: thought I was going back to the seminary, and so
Speaker 1: after college I was in a high school seminary and
Speaker 1: then got an Evans Caddy scholarship to see you Boulder.
Speaker 1: So I thought I'd come to see you Boulder, then
Speaker 1: go back to the major seminary. And so working in
Speaker 1: a bar at night was not really conducive to my
Speaker 1: planned return.
Speaker 2: To the seminary. If you know what I mean. It
Speaker 2: doesn't quite line up. No, no, it did not. It
Speaker 2: did not.
Speaker 1: But so that's why I left my work in the bar,
Speaker 1: but I used to do a lot of work for tips,
Speaker 1: and I you know, I don't know if other people
Speaker 1: are the same. I'm not choking up. I'm just choking
Speaker 1: on peanut butter. I mean, like I can literally sitting
Speaker 1: here right now, I can picture it. I can remember
Speaker 1: a guy who gave me a particularly good tip when
Speaker 1: I was working as a caddy, like a long time ago,
Speaker 1: and when I was working as a car parker, you know,
Speaker 1: so you remember the and believe it or not, when
Speaker 1: I was working as a bar tap, I mean, you
Speaker 1: remember those things. So happy to see people who work
Speaker 1: for tips get some real relief.
Speaker 2: And I understand the arguments on the other side.
Speaker 1: I respect those, but I just think this country, this party,
Speaker 1: the GOP, and the country, there's just so much more
Speaker 1: that has to be focused on working people, you know,
Speaker 1: for this country to be what it needs to be,
Speaker 1: for the GOP to be what it should be, and
Speaker 1: for the GOP to be successful, because what knows, Democrats
Speaker 1: are not the party of the working people anymore. I
Speaker 1: don't think any sane person, any honest person, would try to.
Speaker 2: Contend that they are.
Speaker 1: And that's been a fascinating thing for me to watch,
Speaker 1: at least as a kid who grew up a Democrat.
Speaker 2: I was a Democrat till my thirties and just proud
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: Because you know John Kennedy, and you know the party
Speaker 1: that stood for the working men and women and for
Speaker 1: the week in defense US and then over time, but
Speaker 1: certainly the big turning point was legalized abortion. Then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the party that I thought stood for
Speaker 1: all those good things, you know what, was now the
Speaker 1: opposite and has continued to be and get even worse.
Speaker 1: So this is one of the reasons I'm so optimistic
Speaker 1: for America is there are so many good people, patriotic Americans,
Speaker 1: conservative Americans who have the same good intentions that the
Speaker 1: vast majority of Republicans have, who still vote Democrat out
Speaker 1: of habit and out of the stereotype, the negative stereotype
Speaker 1: of the GOP. So one of the reasons I'm so
Speaker 1: optimistic is that we're starting to see it happened in layers, right,
Speaker 1: but the day is going to come when a whole
Speaker 1: lot tipping point kind of moment when a whole lot
Speaker 1: of people who normally vote Democrat start voting Republican. And
Speaker 1: you don't need that many flips to all of a
Speaker 1: sudden dramatically change landscape. But I get the Colorado is
Speaker 1: a harder nut to crack. But on this Independence Day weekend,
Speaker 1: it's good to remember the bigger the challenge, right, the
Speaker 1: bigger the privilege. Three h three someone three eight two
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Speaker 1: In the Big Beautiful Bill, we have forty million dollars
Speaker 1: set aside and it'll just be seed money. The final
Speaker 1: cost will be much more, but worth it for President
Speaker 1: Trump's Garden of American Heroes lifetime statues of two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty American heroes. If we were to do that
Speaker 1: kind of Garden of Colorado hero say down at the Capitol,
Speaker 1: and first you'd have to start to protect the Capitol
Speaker 1: in downtown.
Speaker 2: But who should be in that garden? Love your thoughts?
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Speaker 8: You're on the Dan Caplish, you're listening to the Dan
Speaker 8: Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 10: They even get tired of winning, and you'll say, please, please,
Speaker 10: it's too much winning. We can't take it anymore, mister President.
Speaker 10: It's too much and I'll say.
Speaker 5: No, it isn't.
Speaker 2: We have to keep winning. We have to win more.
Speaker 8: We're gonna win more.
Speaker 2: We gotta be top ten. Trump sound never get tired
Speaker 2: of that bite. And what a perfect day to play.
Speaker 1: It, right, I mean, we're heading into Independence Day weekend.
Speaker 1: Just a monumental win on the big beautiful bill. And
Speaker 1: imagine how tough it had to be to herd those
Speaker 1: cats to get that through with such narrow margins. And
Speaker 1: obviously it doesn't happen without the big role that President
Speaker 1: Trump has been on, a great job by the Speaker
Speaker 1: and by John Thuns. So yeah, the whole idea behind this,
Speaker 1: obviously is to fuel economic growth to increase government revenues
Speaker 1: that way to tackle that and deficit. And President Trump
Speaker 1: obviously firmly committed to saving America that way because something's
Speaker 1: got to change, right, I mean, if we continue on
Speaker 1: the current road, then America will meet economic rule. So
Speaker 1: something has to change. Trump committed to doing it through growth.
Speaker 1: This bill designed to accomplish that. I think he has
Speaker 1: certainly proven that he understands the American economy and how
Speaker 1: to make it work. And he's had tremendous success under
Speaker 1: very adverse circumstances, particularly in the first term, so trust
Speaker 1: him and be anxious to see this go to work.
Speaker 1: So we've been talking about a few individual pieces, but
Speaker 1: one that's also really intriguing is there's forty million in here,
Speaker 1: and it'll just be the seed money, right, but forty
Speaker 1: million in here for a garden of American heroes and
Speaker 1: it's going to be two hundred and fifty statues and
Speaker 1: then there'll be a process for deciding who gets in
Speaker 1: there of American heroes from all different walks of life.
Speaker 1: And I love this idea, assuming they pick the right
Speaker 1: people and they do it right of you know, the
Speaker 1: school kids who go to DC and the rest of us,
Speaker 1: you know, just wandering through this big garden and these
Speaker 1: life size figures, and then they'll be all the interactive stuff,
Speaker 1: right And yes, so I probably be able to play
Speaker 1: catch with Mickey Mantle, or at least canical version of
Speaker 1: Mickey Mantle. So I love this concept, and in Colorado,
Speaker 1: I would not trust it in lefty hands right now.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine who they'd put in the garden.
Speaker 1: But I'd love to see that once the state regains
Speaker 1: its sanity. I'd love to see it up around the
Speaker 1: Capitol and Civic Center Park, and you know, the kids
Speaker 1: would be able to see like what we value, you know,
Speaker 1: the people who represent the things we really value. So
Speaker 1: asking you who would you want in there? So we're
Speaker 1: talking about that, We're talking about lots of other things.
Speaker 1: Three h three someone three A two five five, text,
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Speaker 2: Five seven seven three nine? Who would you want in there?
Speaker 2: The Colorado Garden of Heroes?
Speaker 1: So obviously, I mean, I think everybody a top choice
Speaker 1: for everybody. And I'm biased here because I've had the
Speaker 1: privilege of representing Kendrick Castio's amazing parents, John and Maria.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Kendrick Castio would have to be in there.
Speaker 1: Text or Dan Kendrickkesis comes to my mind. Beyond that,
Speaker 1: never a politician that isn't at least fifty years deceased.
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
Speaker 1: I you know, I don't know that i'd want to.
Speaker 2: Would you want a hardline un deceased?
Speaker 1: Maybe you'd have to have that, But yeah, maybe you
Speaker 1: have to have that just to be safe, Like it
Speaker 1: drives me crazy. I like Frederick Opina fine, I mean
Speaker 1: we differ politically, but the times I've met him, like
Speaker 1: youth baseball stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Like the guy.
Speaker 1: But the idea you've got one of the major roads
Speaker 1: in Hall of Colorado named after a living guy, a
Speaker 1: Democrat politician.
Speaker 2: No, I don't buy that.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're going to do that, then you
Speaker 1: have to have I twenty five named after Bill Owens, Right,
Speaker 1: a great Republican governor, a great two term Republican governor, or,
Speaker 1: should be something named after him. But I think you've
Speaker 1: got to be naming stuff after first. You got to
Speaker 1: be naming stuff after people who've died for the state,
Speaker 1: for the country, their life for the state or the country.
Speaker 1: So you got to have Kendrick Castillo gave his life
Speaker 1: to save his classmates and teachers. You got to have
Speaker 1: Dave Sanders gave his life to save his students at Columbine.
Speaker 2: I think you'd have to have Danny Diets in there,
Speaker 2: you know, Navy seal hero.
Speaker 1: And then I think one of the big challenges would
Speaker 1: be we have so many, particularly this date right and
Speaker 1: our military tradition, we have so many military heroes from
Speaker 1: this state.
Speaker 2: How do you choose who goes in and who doesn't.
Speaker 1: Same with law enforcement people who broke heroically given their
Speaker 1: lives people who've heroically risked death to save others and
Speaker 1: did not die in the process.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that.
Speaker 1: Would be quite a challenge narrowing it down, assuming you
Speaker 1: went with kind of the same two fifty number, and
Speaker 1: there would have to be some space limitation, right, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from you who you would like
Speaker 1: to see in there.
Speaker 2: But can you.
Speaker 1: Imagine the other thing your thoughts on if the left
Speaker 1: was to do that now, which which it won't, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, just the whole idea heroes kind of thing
Speaker 1: anesthetical to the hard left that controls the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: But if they were to do that, who do you
Speaker 1: think they'd put in there?
Speaker 2: Oh? My goodness, all.
Speaker 1: Right, I want to get to some of our texters.
Speaker 1: Dan of Colorado is to have a garden of heroes
Speaker 1: that should celebrate our military heroes like William Crawford, Drew Dick,
Speaker 1: Sector Flores and others.
Speaker 2: And it goes on from there.
Speaker 1: Dan. I called a Congressman's office yesterday about the big
Speaker 1: beautiful bill, and at the end of the call, I
Speaker 1: wish the person on the phone a happy Fourth of July,
Speaker 1: and they replied with happy Independence Day.
Speaker 2: Is that a thing?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: I don't often say agreeting to people on fourth of July. However,
Speaker 1: I feel a special sense of celibratory and I'm proud
Speaker 1: this year interesting because I found the transition for me
Speaker 1: to be very easy because for the first few years
Speaker 1: of my life, I've always said happy fourth of July
Speaker 1: or referred to it as the fourth of July. And
Speaker 1: then we had a Texter take me to task for
Speaker 1: that earlier in the show, and you know, it's Independence Day,
Speaker 1: and Texter's right. So I think the last five times
Speaker 1: I've referred to it on the show today with guests,
Speaker 1: et cetera, it's been Independence Day, and it rolls off
Speaker 1: the tongue. So I think that is a thing, and
Speaker 1: I get it. And I get it mainly because you know,
Speaker 1: people didn't die for the date on the calendar. They
Speaker 1: died for our independence and it is one of the
Speaker 1: greatest gifts in the history of the world, right, this
Speaker 1: kind of independence and freedom.
Speaker 2: So I get it, and I am now an.
Speaker 1: Independence Day guy, just like Christmas. And listen, you can't
Speaker 1: compare anything to Christmas, right, because that's God. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm an Independence Day guy. I'm sure I'll
Speaker 1: slip here and there Warren in Colorado Springs here on
Speaker 1: the dancap plashow.
Speaker 2: Welcome.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I want to talk to you about how much
Speaker 11: I have to this buying Colinborder got well. I was
Speaker 11: living for fifteen years before I move back to Colorado.
Speaker 11: I lived Becore, leaning out of Hope. I'm familiar with
Speaker 11: the Idaho situation, but I hate our legal system for
Speaker 11: being able to put that guy off well penalty. I
Speaker 11: just can't stand their all legal system because it makes
Speaker 11: me so irritated. I can't believe it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and that is particularly maddening.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: I haven't dug into the details, but does he actually
Speaker 1: have some opportunity even in theory, for parole or is
Speaker 1: he just locked in for life.
Speaker 11: For certain Well, I'd say he's locked in for life. Yeah,
Speaker 11: there's no chance of parole, but big deal. You can
Speaker 11: possibly escape or he can read legal books and figure
Speaker 11: out a way to get out within ten or fifteen years.
Speaker 11: That's happened before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I understand if you have family members there,
Speaker 1: and sometimes family members are divided. Because I represent my
Speaker 1: civil practice, sometimes folks who've had somebody murdered and then
Speaker 1: there's a civil case that arives from it. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: have family members who would get great comfort from the
Speaker 1: death penalty. Sometimes they are family members who who don't
Speaker 1: want the death penalty for personal or religious reasons, et cetera.
Speaker 1: But how frustrating for those who want it.
Speaker 11: There against the death penalty the way it celebrating this country.
Speaker 11: If they gave the death penalty, he'd still lived for
Speaker 11: ten or fifteen years.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Yeah, But as far as I'm concerned, now, you're going
Speaker 11: to think this about Aric, because I already feel about
Speaker 11: this guy. If there are some male relatives that would
Speaker 11: like to take him and do whatever they want with him,
Speaker 11: I'd say give him to him.
Speaker 2: You think the law should be changed to allow that?
Speaker 11: Yes, interesting, because I feel I've lost somebody close when
Speaker 11: I was sixteen, family members, and I can imagine the
Speaker 11: pain suffering I went on with those relatives to parents
Speaker 11: and brothers and sisters and poor kids, and they just
Speaker 11: can't stand the legal system allows that piece of garbage
Speaker 11: extremate to survive and live. Yeah, away, that's all I
Speaker 11: wanted to do.
Speaker 1: No, I appreciate the call. And you know the reason
Speaker 1: I would oppose what Warren's suggesting is is not the
Speaker 1: idea that this mass murderer doesn't deserve it. It's the
Speaker 1: idea that our country deserves better, right, and for the
Speaker 1: good of our nation, I think we don't want to
Speaker 1: be punishing people in the way Warren describes. And again
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with any kind of sympathy
Speaker 1: for protection of these evil, demon acting murderers. It's more
Speaker 1: the good of our country. Three h three someone three
Speaker 1: eight two five five. Hey, we'll we come back to
Speaker 1: some more callers and texts for the president now, and
Speaker 1: I'm glad he's going to do it.
Speaker 2: A big, beautiful bill.
Speaker 1: He's going to get his Garden of American Heroes two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty life sized statues. If we were to
Speaker 1: have a garden of Colorado heroes, who would you want
Speaker 1: in there? And then a recreation of a great George
Speaker 1: Washington speech to up celebrate Independence Day.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 8: And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 9: This may be the most important vote that any of
Speaker 9: us take in our entire lifetimes, and everybody better remember it.
Speaker 9: However you vote today, my friends, the President of the
Speaker 9: United States is waiting with his pen. The American people
Speaker 9: are waiting for this relief. We've heard enough talk. It's
Speaker 9: time for action. Let's finish the job for him. Vote
Speaker 9: yes on the bill.
Speaker 2: Boy, They got it done too.
Speaker 1: No matter what you think about the content of the bill,
Speaker 1: it is so impressive they were able to get it done.
Speaker 1: And Trump hashon he knows what he's talking about when
Speaker 1: it comes to this nation's economy, and he absolutely believes
Speaker 1: what's in this bill is going to fuel massive growth,
Speaker 1: which will generate the government revenue to then lower debts
Speaker 1: and deficits. And we've got to do that right so,
Speaker 1: and then the bit about defunding planned parenthood, very very
Speaker 1: excited to see that. I want to get into the
Speaker 1: particulars over the weekend and get a good grip on that,
Speaker 1: the certainty of that, and to make sure it's absolute,
Speaker 1: and then we could talk about that some more next week.
Speaker 1: I want to get you a little bit from this
Speaker 1: recreation of a George Washington speech as we head into
Speaker 1: Independence Day weekend.
Speaker 12: You have done all I have asked you to do
Speaker 12: and more, But your country is at stake. Your wives,
Speaker 12: youre homes, and all you hold dear. You have worn
Speaker 12: yourselves out with fatigues and hardships. If you will consent
Speaker 12: to stay one month longer. You will render that service
Speaker 12: to the cause of liberty into your country, which you
Speaker 12: can probably never do under any other circumstance. Again, the
Speaker 12: drums rolled, and this time all the men began stepping
Speaker 12: forward to God Almighty wrote with Daniel Green, inclined their
Speaker 12: hearts to listen to the proposal, and they engaged a new.
Speaker 2: I mean, you think about the difference.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen it in your own life, right,
Speaker 1: maybe you've been that gygao, But you think about the
Speaker 1: difference leadership, mate, and it's made throughout the history of
Speaker 1: our country. And if you don't have this leader at
Speaker 1: this moment, things just go off the rails, right, and
Speaker 1: we probably just don't have anywhere near the same nation or.
Speaker 2: World that we do today.
Speaker 1: So it goes back to her at the end of
Speaker 1: the Declaration of Independence, where all these folks, all these guys,
Speaker 1: and you can be sure their wives had the same attitude, right,
Speaker 1: or they probably wouldn't have been doing it is with
Speaker 1: reliance on divine providence, right, that they pledge each other
Speaker 1: their lives, their fortune, their sacred honors. So yeah, and
Speaker 1: awful lot of people who believe President Trump is the
Speaker 1: man for this moment. And I'm one of those as
Speaker 1: well who believe that. And that doesn't mean I'm good
Speaker 1: with every single thing he's ever sun or said or done.
Speaker 1: Nobody'd ever say that about anybody in history. But it
Speaker 1: goes back to us we talked about, and we're coming
Speaker 1: up on the anniversary now, right of that assassination attempt
Speaker 1: in the Butler Field, and my belief at the time
Speaker 1: more and more reason to believe that sense that there
Speaker 1: was divine intervention there. And I can't know that for sure, right.
Speaker 1: I hope to someday be in a place where I
Speaker 1: will know that for sure. But that's my personal belief.
Speaker 1: I know the president believes that. But then you see
Speaker 1: all the good things he's done for the country since then,
Speaker 1: and the country being spared. Can you imagine, don't even
Speaker 1: want to think about what would have happened to this
Speaker 1: nation if that assassin had succeeded. So, you know, another
Speaker 1: major turning point for the better in our nation when
Speaker 1: President Trump turned his head that afternoon and the assassin failed.
Speaker 1: And then critically, can you imagine the presence of mind
Speaker 1: in the moment, and then the courage and the coherence.
Speaker 1: President Trump to just jump up and say fight, fight, fight,
Speaker 1: and we talked about it. I think that following Monday
Speaker 1: on the show, that race was essentially over there. I
Speaker 1: think that race was over long before then, right, because
Speaker 1: America was just it was never going to elect Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: was never going to be the candidate come elect in America.
Speaker 2: Wasn't gonna let Kamala Harris for very good reason.
Speaker 1: But even if the Democrats had a candidate who could win,
Speaker 1: the election was over when President Trump showed the ability
Speaker 1: to do that under fire.
Speaker 2: So wow, what a year.
Speaker 1: So much reason for hope, so much reason for hope
Speaker 1: and optimism. So we got to finish the show with
Speaker 1: this sound, right, I mean, I just put this.
Speaker 2: Thing on a loop.
Speaker 12: You have done it all.
Speaker 2: I like that too. That's not the sound I wanted
Speaker 2: to finish the show with. I wanted to finish the
Speaker 2: show with this.
Speaker 10: We're gonna win so much. You may even get tired
Speaker 10: of winning. And you'll say, please, please, it's too much winning.
Speaker 2: We can't take.
Speaker 10: It anymore, mister President, It's too much, And I'll say, no,
Speaker 10: it isn't.
Speaker 2: We have to keep winning.
Speaker 8: We have to win more.
Speaker 10: We're gonna win more.
Speaker 1: One of the greatest Trump clips ever. And it's not
Speaker 1: only contagious, but it builds on itself. Right when when
Speaker 1: you talk about winning, it's contagious for the obvious reasons.
Speaker 1: Some of it's chemical, some of it's practical, but it
Speaker 1: builds on itself because you get these victories and then
Speaker 1: stuff works, and then it's easier to convince people to
Speaker 1: keep going further down this road with more victories, whether
Speaker 1: you're talking about peace or strength, whether you're talking about
Speaker 1: the economy. And then what I believe we're in the
Speaker 1: middle of experiencing together is then you're going to get
Speaker 1: to the point where, come twenty twenty eight, and this
Speaker 1: would have happened without COVID, right, If COVID had not happened,
Speaker 1: Trump would have had a consecutive term, a second turn
Speaker 1: back to back. Then you would have had a Republican
Speaker 1: elected in twenty four because it would have been so
Speaker 1: much continuing success under Trump. And that's what we're on
Speaker 1: track for here. It's not guaranteed, right, everybody has to
Speaker 1: do their thing, but you're just going to have this
Speaker 1: success continue to build on itself to the point where
Speaker 1: the GOP nominee. Particularly with the deep bench, the GOP
Speaker 1: has has a very very good chance to win in
Speaker 1: twenty eight and then as long as they keep doing
Speaker 1: the right stuff, because that's the thing is a former Democrat,
Speaker 1: had took me a long time to come to appreciate
Speaker 1: these conservative ideas. The conservative approach really does work, and
Speaker 1: so America sees it continuing to work, and then you're
Speaker 1: going to have more and more GOP presidents.
Speaker 2: That's going to perpetuate. Zach, you're the best man. Thank
Speaker 2: you for that. Kelly, have a great weekend, enjoy it all.