Speaker 1: It's night Sime with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Easy
Speaker 1: Boston's Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, if that last hour with State Auditor Diane and
Speaker 2: Desauglio didn't fire you up, and I don't know, you
Speaker 2: got to check your blood pressure. She is battling everybody
Speaker 2: on Beacon Hill, and she is battling for the right reasons. Uh.
Speaker 2: And I'm imploring my listeners to take an opportunity tomorrow
Speaker 2: and call the State House and just call that main
Speaker 2: number that we shared with you. The main number up
Speaker 2: out on Beacon Hill at the State House is six
Speaker 2: one seven seven two two thousand and just you get
Speaker 2: an operator and just say, look, I'd like to speak
Speaker 2: to my state representative, my state centator, and I'll ask
Speaker 2: you what town do you live in? Uh, And they'll
Speaker 2: put you in touch and just make the point. And again,
Speaker 2: the number is the key. The voters by seventy two percent,
Speaker 2: I mean Donald Trump won his election, which has been
Speaker 2: characterized by some as a landslide, with forty nine points
Speaker 2: something percent of the vote. And the reason by that
Speaker 2: is that it was a close elections. Not a close
Speaker 2: election in terms of the electoral college, but a close
Speaker 2: election in terms of the popular vote. And Donald Trump
Speaker 2: may end up with fifty percent of the popular vote.
Speaker 2: This was seventy two percent of the vote in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: I mean, no one gets seventy two percent. People can't
Speaker 2: seventy two percent of the people would not agree that
Speaker 2: today was Thursday. So we're on the right side of
Speaker 2: this issue. The Democrats talk about democracy dies in darkness.
Speaker 2: Here is a statela State auditor who happens to be
Speaker 2: a Democrat who actually believes that democracy dies in darkness.
Speaker 2: Democracy has been dead at the Massachusetts State House for
Speaker 2: many years, okay many years, and it is dead because
Speaker 2: it is a closed operation which is controlled by the
Speaker 2: state Senate President and the Speaker of the House. The
Speaker 2: Senate President had some pretty good political instincts, Karen Spilker.
Speaker 2: I worked with her on some reform legislation back oh
Speaker 2: ten or twelve years ago, and I think what happens
Speaker 2: is when they get in these little positions of power,
Speaker 2: they say that power is the ultimate afrojesiac. I don't
Speaker 2: know Mariano. I don't know that I've ever talked to Marianno,
Speaker 2: but I think that he is your very typical politician
Speaker 2: who has spent his time in the ranks and now
Speaker 2: is the Speaker of the House, and he's going to
Speaker 2: run the Speaker of the House with an iron fist
Speaker 2: and basically keep everybody in control. And for them to
Speaker 2: try to block an audit not not right whatsoever. Now,
Speaker 2: let me just real quickly again, remind you please call
Speaker 2: the State House tomorrow six one, seven, seven two thousand.
Speaker 2: That is the number. They'll simply ask You'll they'll say, well,
Speaker 2: you want us speak here a state representative. Where do
Speaker 2: you live, what town do you live? And they they
Speaker 2: give you a couple of choices, both your state rep
Speaker 2: and your state Senator, and just let them know and say, look,
Speaker 2: if you decide that you are not going to support
Speaker 2: this audit, and no matter what they tell you, if that,
Speaker 2: you'll never vote for them again. That's all they fear.
Speaker 2: They fear losing their office. They're senecure. They want to
Speaker 2: keep that off so they can include and they can
Speaker 2: employ some people. Look at you have a city councilor
Speaker 2: here in Boston, Fernandez Anderson Fernandez, who is apparently the
Speaker 2: subject of investigation, who is filed and been fined by
Speaker 2: the Ethics Commission for hiring relatives and nepotism is not
Speaker 2: permitted in the city council, hiring her sister and her
Speaker 2: son at two jobs of seventy thousand dollars apiece on
Speaker 2: her payroll. I mean, you don't think that goes on
Speaker 2: at the legislature too. I suspect it does anyway, the
Speaker 2: sort of thing they're trying to they're trying to hide. Now,
Speaker 2: let me just take a moment here before we start
Speaker 2: to talk about what happened in New York yesterday, because
Speaker 2: I think there's some implications here that I'd like to
Speaker 2: hear from you on. I'd like to hear from you
Speaker 2: Monday night. I'm off tomorrow night. Gary Tange will sit
Speaker 2: in for me tomorrow night. I'm off tomorrow night. I
Speaker 2: have a commitment that I have to attend. I don't
Speaker 2: have to attend to the commitment I want to attend.
Speaker 2: So that is a vacation day for me tomorrow. I
Speaker 2: will be here all of next week. I will be
Speaker 2: here all of the following week. We have some good
Speaker 2: programs coming up. I hope to get the WBC car
Speaker 2: guys back one time before the year is up. I
Speaker 2: know that Larry and Scott are always cooperative. There's a
Speaker 2: few other surprises that I'd like to have, But we
Speaker 2: have a critically important program coming up on Monday Night. Now,
Speaker 2: if you have a child, or if you are a
Speaker 2: high school student and you are beginning to contemplate or
Speaker 2: in the process of applying to college, Monday night is
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Speaker 2: of a better gift I can give you. So that's it. Now.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about this horrific murder in New
Speaker 2: York when we get back. If you have a thought
Speaker 2: on this, My question is how could this happen? Well,
Speaker 2: we saw how it happened, But to me, it's inconceivable
Speaker 2: that an American business leader is assassinated on the streets
Speaker 2: of New York. What does this portend for our country?
Speaker 2: Does this now mean that every business leader of a
Speaker 2: major company, a major business, a major corporation in America
Speaker 2: now has to have the equivalent of Secret Service protection
Speaker 2: protection that we provide to our political leaders. This is
Speaker 2: I think a very frightening concept. You have had this
Speaker 2: sort of activity in countries in South and Central America
Speaker 2: where men and women who are trying to and I
Speaker 2: don't know what the circumstances are of this other than
Speaker 2: what I saw on television. How could this possibly be?
Speaker 2: How could someone I talked with a former law enforcement
Speaker 2: official today who is a pretty good sense of these stories.
Speaker 2: And this former law enforcement person said to me, don't
Speaker 2: be surprised if the guy who killed the head of
Speaker 2: this healthcare company has already been eliminated. Think about that.
Speaker 2: Let's assume that someone convinced someone for either short money
Speaker 2: or medium money. Ten thousand dollars sounds like a lot
Speaker 2: of money, and you know you can do it, you
Speaker 2: get away with it, and then they went to pay them,
Speaker 2: pay them them off, and they eliminate the guy. This
Speaker 2: is going to be fascinating to find out what what
Speaker 2: the motive was. So I'm just gonna open up the
Speaker 2: phone lines. Let's talk about this. This is the murder.
Speaker 2: This is the murder of a major, major business leader
Speaker 2: in this country. And we cannot go down this path.
Speaker 2: We've gone down this path with political assassinations. If you
Speaker 2: remember President Kennedy, Senator Kennedy, Martin Luther, King, Malcolm X,
Speaker 2: George Wallace, the Pope, Ronald Reagan, President Trump. We now
Speaker 2: accept the potential assassinations. We don't accept it, but but
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, it's horrible, but for us now to
Speaker 2: go down and think that men and women who are
Speaker 2: corporate leaders could somehow be targeted six months, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty. What does it portend? I don't think it's
Speaker 2: good six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty six
Speaker 2: one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Will be right
Speaker 2: back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ, the News Radio.
Speaker 2: This issue. To watch what happened yesterday is to me extraordinary,
Speaker 2: extraordinary that to think that Brian Thompson is just assassinated
Speaker 2: on the streets of Manhattan in New York. I have
Speaker 2: no idea what the motive is, but we have to
Speaker 2: find out. UH. And this is this is a moment
Speaker 2: in time that that mark, my words, is going to
Speaker 2: be UH is going to set a very bad press.
Speaker 2: The New York Times the Night is reporting investigators released
Speaker 2: pictures today showing the face of this guy they believe
Speaker 2: killed Thompson. They said the words delay and den I
Speaker 2: were written in bullet casings collected at the murdercine. He
Speaker 2: apparently is said to have used a fake New Jersey
Speaker 2: id a fake New Jersey idea to book a room
Speaker 2: at a hostel in Manhattan's Upper West Side, where he
Speaker 2: stayed before the killing. Police have not made any arrests
Speaker 2: as of Thursday. This article was three hours ago. So
Speaker 2: I wonder if if this kid is still alive. Wouldn't
Speaker 2: that be interesting? Wouldn't that be interesting? He checked in
Speaker 2: to the hostile on the Upper West Side. The man
Speaker 2: arrived in New York on an interstate bus from somewhere
Speaker 2: south of the city of November twenty fourth. That was
Speaker 2: last week. He checked into the hostel on the Upper
Speaker 2: west Side. After that, checked out on November twenty ninth,
Speaker 2: and checked back in the next day. They're getting information
Speaker 2: on this guy. He used to fake New Jersey ID.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones. I want to hear from
Speaker 2: as many of you as possible in this one six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven nine free, one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: George is in Reville and I hit the wrong button. There, George,
Speaker 2: you are now with me? Go ahead, George.
Speaker 3: Oh that's okay, man. I had to say.
Speaker 4: I grew up in REvil, but I'm not in Reviel.
Speaker 4: My wife works for United Healthcare, so she didn't want
Speaker 4: me to call.
Speaker 3: But she's sleeping. Well, let me pay it and you know.
Speaker 2: Get home for you. How big. United Healthcare is a
Speaker 2: huge company.
Speaker 4: You know, twelve four hundred thousand employees. I don't know
Speaker 4: fifty sixty million clients. You know, my wife, she's they're
Speaker 4: the backbone of the company. They have between seventy five
Speaker 4: and one hundred patients, and they have to see every
Speaker 4: one of them within ninety days, and then they start
Speaker 4: to cycle over again, see what they need, see if
Speaker 4: they're taking their medicines, if they have new medicine, and
Speaker 4: then come back home and document it all.
Speaker 3: But I didn't really call.
Speaker 4: Unless you have any questions about what my wife does.
Speaker 4: What I couldn't believe she told me the researcher. So
Speaker 4: yesterday I'm reading about the murder and I look at
Speaker 4: the remarks.
Speaker 3: And I read the first ten, fifteen twenty remarks, and
Speaker 3: good riddance.
Speaker 4: Okay, this company, like you just mentioned, they denied, denied, deny,
Speaker 4: and people are dying because of it. I mean, no
Speaker 4: one in this country like insurance companies. I've been raped
Speaker 4: over once or twice by an insurance company, not medical.
Speaker 3: I go to the DA. We don't go around killing people,
Speaker 3: because that's the point. That's because of this, you know.
Speaker 2: And what is this potential?
Speaker 4: I just couldn't believe what I was reading that probably
Speaker 4: all six hundred and fifty nine remarks after after I
Speaker 4: met you know how he got killed? When negative but
Speaker 4: happy this guy was dead. That's that's what's bothering me,
Speaker 4: just like it's bothering you.
Speaker 3: Is this is this what this country is coming to?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So that that means that if look, every once
Speaker 2: in a while you'll hear about some story about some
Speaker 2: guy in a divorce case will shoot their lawyer. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean it can happen in this country. Yeah, But
Speaker 2: but I mean is now if you have a bad
Speaker 2: experience with a store, I mean you go to a
Speaker 2: store and you you then you seek out This is insane,
Speaker 2: is what it is.
Speaker 4: How many about it?
Speaker 2: We are hurting down a path from which wh America?
Speaker 2: You know this is? It is to watch what happened.
Speaker 2: First of all, this coward shoots the guy in the back,
Speaker 2: doesn't even have the courage to confront him, and of
Speaker 2: course he's got a gun, so you know who's going
Speaker 2: to win the argument? Here shoots him and then it
Speaker 2: looks like went over and he finished him off. And
Speaker 2: this kid, I've seen the picture of I'm looking at
Speaker 2: the picture of this kid right now. He looks like
Speaker 2: an absolutely normal kid. I mean, he's smiling here, he's smiling,
Speaker 2: and this is just you know, a few hours. I
Speaker 2: guess before he's gonna he's going to become a murderer.
Speaker 2: My question is, is this kid's still alive?
Speaker 3: I can't believe it.
Speaker 4: Dan, let me tell you something that that bothers mate terrible.
Speaker 4: I saw the ten thousand dollar reward put up by
Speaker 4: the police department.
Speaker 3: I don't know why.
Speaker 4: United Healthcare hasn't already put up a ten million dollar reward.
Speaker 4: This guy will be caught within within a couple of days,
Speaker 4: because you'd, George, you.
Speaker 2: Read my mind. When I saw ten thousand dollars, I thought, look,
Speaker 2: if someone loses their dog out of their own they'll
Speaker 2: go to their own bank account and say ten thousand
Speaker 2: dollars reward to find Fido. I mean ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Talk about so that's insulting. That's what his life is worth.
Speaker 4: So well, the only thing that I'm thinking that I
Speaker 4: got out of all this, we got a lot of
Speaker 4: angry people, obnoxious people leaving these kind of remarks good riddings,
Speaker 4: but it's either an inside job or a job by
Speaker 4: some kid. It looks like a kid whose mother died
Speaker 4: because she was denied.
Speaker 3: That's that's my I think it's going to be.
Speaker 2: More complicated than that, and I think that Look, I
Speaker 2: have no idea that I can be way off base,
Speaker 2: but my suspicion is that there's something that's a lot
Speaker 2: deeper than even what we know about, and that somebody
Speaker 2: maybe hired this kid. Maybe I don't know where they
Speaker 2: found him, but I would I would wonder.
Speaker 3: If Well, that's what I meant.
Speaker 2: That's quite because if someone hired him to off this guy,
Speaker 2: and and whoever hired him wanted, they would want him
Speaker 2: dead as soon as possible, because dead dead men tell
Speaker 2: no tales. That's my thought.
Speaker 4: Well, I think that's why I said. It could easily
Speaker 4: be an inside job or some under tic but anyway,
Speaker 4: as a job, I mean, there's problems in this company.
Speaker 3: But thank you very much, George.
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas. If we don't chat, okay, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Merry Christmas. See you Dan. Nice talking to you, buddy.
Speaker 3: Thank you all right.
Speaker 2: Six one seven thirty six one seven nine three one
Speaker 2: ten thirty. I'm troubled by this, but it also let
Speaker 2: to know what you think. If there is some powerful
Speaker 2: financial interest that decided that this was the way that
Speaker 2: this guy's got to go, and this kid was hired
Speaker 2: by them to do the deed. I don't know that
Speaker 2: his love expectancy is is is much is much longer
Speaker 2: for this world either, But we'll see, We'll see. I
Speaker 2: hope they catch him. I hope they catch him, and
Speaker 2: I hope that he spills his guts. And if it's
Speaker 2: if it's if he's a lone wolf, so be it.
Speaker 2: He spends the rest of his life in prison, simple
Speaker 2: as that. Huh. Six thirty six, seven, nine thirty. What
Speaker 2: is going on in the United States of America. This
Speaker 2: is not a good development. Believe me, it is not
Speaker 2: a good development. We'll be back on nightside.
Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on wz Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: What could compel? First of all, I got a bunch
Speaker 2: of questions, and I'm just gonna throw him out there
Speaker 2: and left to hear what you think. How did this
Speaker 2: kid know exactly where Brian Thompson would be at that
Speaker 2: hour of the morning. He was obviously waiting there. Again,
Speaker 2: I followed this, You probably have followed it more closely,
Speaker 2: But I know that there was some individual who said, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's been hanging around this area for a little while.
Speaker 2: He knew exactly. I think he knew where Thompson stayed
Speaker 2: the night before. Thompson did not stay at the hotel
Speaker 2: at that hotel. He stayed at a different hotel. How
Speaker 2: did he know all of this? Was this an inside job?
Speaker 2: Or why would a young man, even if he had
Speaker 2: a relative who died, why would he want to shoot
Speaker 2: an insurance executive. I mean, none of this makes sense.
Speaker 2: None of this makes sense. Lola. Lola is one of
Speaker 2: my best callers. She will always have a point of view. Lola,
Speaker 2: I'm dying and know what you what you think?
Speaker 5: Okay? So I read the New York Post and it
Speaker 5: says that he did some insider trading. There was two
Speaker 5: other guys with him with a combined with a combined
Speaker 5: they sold a combined one hundred and one zero point
Speaker 5: five million in shares. So he was going to be
Speaker 5: investigated by the DOJ. They knew this. His wife said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: he's been receiving death threats. So you know, when you
Speaker 5: do bad things, bad things happen.
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, first of all, yeah, we don't
Speaker 2: know that you've cited your source, which is fine. Let's
Speaker 2: assume let's assume that, yeah, he had some options or
Speaker 2: trade or some shares, and let's assume he's never been
Speaker 2: convicted of.
Speaker 5: Anything, right, no, no, but he was being investigated. So
Speaker 5: my theory is somebody didn't want him talking, and so
Speaker 5: somebody hired somebody to go do a job.
Speaker 2: Okay, so now let's assume let's just play your idea
Speaker 2: out for a second. Okay, Yeah, so let's assume that
Speaker 2: there was someone, I mean, he would I guess he
Speaker 2: was training in it if I if I'm referring to
Speaker 2: the same piece you're referring to, he was training in
Speaker 2: uh in shares of the company that he was the
Speaker 2: CEO of Fear Enough, so he had theoretically, theoretically maybe
Speaker 2: some insight that he acted upon which he should have done.
Speaker 2: So let's assume that's that's true. Okay, So who would
Speaker 2: who would be willing? Let's assume that he he tipped
Speaker 2: off a couple of other people hypothetically.
Speaker 5: Whipped him off. See who tipped him off?
Speaker 2: He's the CEO of the company. He didn't need anybody
Speaker 2: to tip him off.
Speaker 5: Well, there was three, there were at least three of
Speaker 5: them being involved in.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's assume that one of the other two, hypothetically,
Speaker 2: one of the other two concerned that this guy was
Speaker 2: going to I think what you're saying to me is
Speaker 2: that one of the other two or the other two
Speaker 2: might be concerned that this guy is going to tell
Speaker 2: the FEDS information that would implicate these other two guys.
Speaker 2: I think that's what.
Speaker 3: You say exactly.
Speaker 2: That's let me work it through with you. So now
Speaker 2: by setting up his demise, his murder, he won't be
Speaker 2: talking to anybody. Okay, But don't you think that those
Speaker 2: two people immediately become suspects.
Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing, Dan, when people are scared, they
Speaker 5: don't think, they don't think, they panic. So you know,
Speaker 5: I don't watch a lot of these mystery murder drama
Speaker 5: things because it's too intense. But it's just the minute
Speaker 5: I saw that he was being investigated by the DJ,
Speaker 5: I'm like, yep, there you go. So well, look at
Speaker 5: our society. Nobody asks questions. Everybody shooting first and asking questions.
Speaker 5: And this does not surprise me at all. And if
Speaker 5: this guy, I don't know if he was staying at
Speaker 5: the hotel or if there was an event at the hotel,
Speaker 5: I can explain.
Speaker 2: I'll give you the answer to that. Apparently there was
Speaker 2: a scheduled investors conference for the United Healthcare Company Public.
Speaker 5: Nobody knew.
Speaker 2: Public. Let me finish that that he would speak there.
Speaker 2: But he didn't stay at the Hilton Hotel. He stayed
Speaker 2: at a different hotel Okay, apparently either up the street,
Speaker 2: around the corner or something like that. How did this guy,
Speaker 2: the shooter know exactly what entrance? This guy apparently he
Speaker 2: didn't use a main entrance of the hotel. He just
Speaker 2: walked from his hotel, which was a block or two away,
Speaker 2: uh and used what was could have a signed a
Speaker 2: lot of these hotels. It's a huge hotel, the Hilton,
Speaker 2: and it has several entrances. How did this shooter know
Speaker 2: what entrance this guy was likely to be called out?
Speaker 5: You know, I don't pluck. We've got cameras everywhere. Who knows,
Speaker 5: like you really have to watch that mission impossible and
Speaker 5: see all the angles and how things get done. Anything's
Speaker 5: possible today. So the more you ask these questions, the
Speaker 5: more I say, somebody knew exactly where he was and
Speaker 5: what he was doing. Well, maybe right right.
Speaker 2: Lola, and I appreciate you. You you you at least
Speaker 2: one a conversation for us, you and George, and let's
Speaker 2: see what others have to say. Fair enough, Okay, an
Speaker 2: inside job, I tell you, well, well we're going to
Speaker 2: get an answer to this, miss Street. But it's like
Speaker 2: watching a television show and figuring out, you know, where
Speaker 2: is this guy, where's the shooter? Is the shooter still alive?
Speaker 2: That the shooter looks like he said the picture I'm
Speaker 2: looking at here, he looks like he's probably twenty five
Speaker 2: years old. He looks like a twenty five year old kid. Yeah.
Speaker 5: But remember up in La when we had all these
Speaker 5: these robberies, they were like five ten people watching one
Speaker 5: house and five and ten cars, and they were all
Speaker 5: on cell phones and oh, they just left and they're
Speaker 5: going down this street and then the other cop follows them,
Speaker 5: so they never know who's actually following them. Everyone's on
Speaker 5: these cell phones. So it could have been something similar.
Speaker 5: But Mike got when you're not going to be investigated
Speaker 5: by the DOJ.
Speaker 2: Okay, So yeah, So the bottom line this, Lola, is
Speaker 2: that you think it all comes back to the DOJ
Speaker 2: investigation in some form of fashion. If that works out,
Speaker 2: I want you to call back and take a little
Speaker 2: victory lap.
Speaker 5: Fair enough, yep, and listen, I read the New York Post.
Speaker 2: No, I'm sure you do. I'm sure you do, Lola.
Speaker 2: I'm way past my break. We've gone seven minutes, so
Speaker 2: I got to let you go. But it's always appreciated
Speaker 2: hearing your voice.
Speaker 4: All Right, Hey, is your daughter? Okay?
Speaker 5: Because the San Francisco earthquake is everybody okay up there?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that that that was an earthquake. That that
Speaker 2: was I guess it was out in the ocean. They
Speaker 2: were concerned about a tsunami. But yeah, thanks, long, we
Speaker 2: gotta go. I'll talk to Merry Christmas and I don't.
Speaker 4: Talk before that, Okay, thanks, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll take quick break. Coming right back here. On
Speaker 2: night's side, I got one line at six one seven
Speaker 2: four ten thirty. I got one line at six one
Speaker 2: seven ninety. We're trying to solve a murder mystery tonight.
Speaker 2: Love to hear your theory on this. If you've seen
Speaker 2: the pictures that the police department released today, this is
Speaker 2: a young guy. He looks to me like he's maybe
Speaker 2: maybe twenty five. Maybe he's had some military training. I
Speaker 2: don't know. He certainly seemed to know how to handle
Speaker 2: that gun, but I guess it also doesn't take much
Speaker 2: if you can handle a gun steady to shoot someone
Speaker 2: in the back from twenty feet disgusting. Back on Nightside
Speaker 2: after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're talking about the murder of Brian Thompson, the
Speaker 2: head of this major, major company, United Health Group, which
Speaker 2: apparently is the largest insurance company in America. Well, I
Speaker 2: just want to hear from as many of you as
Speaker 2: possible and someone will figure it out. We have smart people.
Speaker 2: Paula in Worcester. Paul is pretty smart. Hi, Paula, how
Speaker 2: are you?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm pretty smart. But I'll tell you something, Dan,
Speaker 6: I there's so many troubling things about this story, but
Speaker 6: one of the one of the most troubling to me
Speaker 6: is how brazen people have become the You know, there
Speaker 6: are there are ways if you have issues or with companies,
Speaker 6: any kind of company, you know, to complain, to appeal
Speaker 6: to whatever. But now people decide that they can whether
Speaker 6: it's hired. You know, I don't know if this person
Speaker 6: was hired or part of an inside you know what
Speaker 6: this person was. It's kind of a young person, and
Speaker 6: you know, I would think that I would think that
Speaker 6: the person has to be either a sociopath or there's
Speaker 6: something very wrong with someone that takes a job to
Speaker 6: kill somebody, just to me that you know.
Speaker 2: There are people, there are people all over this country
Speaker 2: who lose a job every day, and the vast majority
Speaker 2: of them don't engage in violence. They don't go back
Speaker 2: and shoot their former boss or the person who fire them.
Speaker 2: We've all worked for people that we didn't get along with.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's normal human nature. Sometimes you
Speaker 2: have a neighbor, someone in your neighborhood who you don't like,
Speaker 2: and after a while you kind of steer yourself away.
Speaker 2: But this is a young guy, so yeah, how does
Speaker 2: he know that he doesn't obviously, how does he know
Speaker 2: that the moment that he fires those shots. There isn't
Speaker 2: a police officer who walks out of the hotel or
Speaker 2: a police car that happens to drive down the street.
Speaker 2: In New York, everywhere you turn there seems to be
Speaker 2: a police officer.
Speaker 6: Well, the scary thing is, Dan, I was my family
Speaker 6: and I were in New York at the same time,
Speaker 6: on the Upper West Side. You know, I think about this.
Speaker 6: We were righted not at the Hilton, but we weren't
Speaker 6: far away from the Hilton.
Speaker 2: That's that's where the hostel was where this guy was
Speaker 2: staying and apparently was usually know a fake ID of
Speaker 2: someone from New Jersey. Let them know who the person
Speaker 2: from New Jersey is? Did they give him the fake ID?
Speaker 6: Wait? I think this guy really had this very well
Speaker 6: orchestrated and planned out. He was there ten days before
Speaker 6: it happened. And you know, you know as well as
Speaker 6: I do. You can call investor relations of a company
Speaker 6: and find out where the financial conferences and when the
Speaker 6: guy is speaking. It's easy enough to find out that information.
Speaker 6: How the person knew which doorway it was, that sort
Speaker 6: of thing, unless he trailed the person and saw that this.
Speaker 6: You know that that CEO went to this meeting at
Speaker 6: a certain time. You know, I don't, I don't, I
Speaker 6: really don't know. There's a lot of unanswered questions. In
Speaker 6: those three words that they found on the casings are
Speaker 6: the title of a book about problems, And I can't
Speaker 6: I apologize, I can't remember the name of the book.
Speaker 6: But it's about problems and denials of claim.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah, the three words, and I forget them too,
Speaker 2: but I think it was something like to pose. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I should have that in front of me here.
Speaker 2: I have too many papers in front of me at
Speaker 2: this point. But yeah, again there's no h it's odd
Speaker 2: that that would be on the casing of the bullets zone.
Speaker 6: It's really odd, and you know, and it seems to me,
Speaker 6: as you say, everyone, you know, I was head of
Speaker 6: HR in a biotechnology company and when I had to
Speaker 6: let somebody go, and believe me, the reasons were always,
Speaker 6: you know, we gave people chance, up your chance, up
Speaker 6: your chance. And I used to call the local police
Speaker 6: department of the town with his company is and have
Speaker 6: a plane closed, person in a room near me because really,
Speaker 6: you don't know what could happen. And one time this
Speaker 6: person had to come, you know, somebody that I was
Speaker 6: talking to got up and you know, started screaming at me.
Speaker 6: And I didn't know what he was going to do.
Speaker 6: I didn't I didn't fear that he had a weapon,
Speaker 6: but he could have. You know, you just don't know.
Speaker 6: And that's maybe you know, ten or fifteen years ago
Speaker 6: when and when I when I talked to the police
Speaker 6: officer after I and I'm really sorry, you know, to
Speaker 6: bother you to have to do this? That are you kidding?
Speaker 6: Companies do this all the time, paul Us, big companies,
Speaker 6: small companies. It's a scary world. So I guess it
Speaker 6: really that bothers me that it's good.
Speaker 2: But by the way, Paul, the words that that that
Speaker 2: they were on the bullet casings, delay, deny and defend
Speaker 2: they were written on the ammunition fired at Thompson. Paul,
Speaker 2: I got to get one more in here before the break.
Speaker 2: So great to your voice. We will talk so and
Speaker 2: have great holidays if I don't.
Speaker 6: Talk to you, okay, all right, take care. Thanks Dan.
Speaker 2: Let me get Mike and Beverly in under the wire
Speaker 2: and we're going to keep going on this in the
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock hour at least I want to. I hope
Speaker 2: you do as well. Mike. Your thoughts on where do
Speaker 2: you think this mystery ends?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 7: I don't good evening Daan Howai So you just shared
Speaker 7: about the magazine and that book have to deal with
Speaker 7: final ASDA and making I'm believe of them amount of
Speaker 7: money and basically you know, not thinking here of the
Speaker 7: pages or something like that, heard about it earlier today,
Speaker 7: and that guy made like a ridiculous amount of money.
Speaker 7: I don't know why he didn't have like a security
Speaker 7: thing with him, but he was like, you know, a million,
Speaker 7: a undred million dollar figure, some ridiculous amount of money.
Speaker 7: Some stupid like that, you know. But now, yeah, that's
Speaker 7: my I was gonna share with you about the word
Speaker 7: on the casing. How I came back to my magazine
Speaker 7: a book or something like that, and that's how they
Speaker 7: got it from.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I appreciate. I appreciate that, and I had
Speaker 2: read that. I just didn't have the words in front
Speaker 2: of me. But it just to me, it seems it
Speaker 2: seems insane that something like this happens on the streets
Speaker 2: of America. I mean, this is yeah. I remember, you know,
Speaker 2: I've as a reporter, I covered plenty of murder stories,
Speaker 2: and some of the ones that you know, I'm I
Speaker 2: forget now whether they were solved or not, but I
Speaker 2: remember there was some guy who was killed in a
Speaker 2: garage or whatever, or you know, or somebody ends up
Speaker 2: they find a body in the garage the next morning
Speaker 2: of a parking garage and there could have been an ornament.
Speaker 2: The night before between two guys over a parking space
Speaker 2: and some guy pulls out a gun. But this looks
Speaker 2: like this was really planned.
Speaker 7: So this guy, yeah, but the guy, the guy gotta sloppy.
Speaker 7: At the end of they get us, they got better.
Speaker 7: This difference on his face from a different I can't believe.
Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but I think the picture that
Speaker 2: I saw of his full face, which is a pretty identity.
Speaker 2: If you know this guy, if anybody knows him, they're
Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna be able to You know, if if
Speaker 2: I saw a picture of you or you saw a
Speaker 2: picture of me and we knew each other, I'd say, hey,
Speaker 2: you know that is that's my friend Mike.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but he left. He bought a Stombucks water and
Speaker 7: the snow an back and drag. Someone put it in
Speaker 7: the trash. So they're gonna get down.
Speaker 2: Is out of that I know that well, you know
Speaker 2: it would hope. But sometimes DNA is tough to paul.
Speaker 2: I mean, when you know, yeah, let's see how it
Speaker 2: works out. Hey, Mike, I hate to do this, do you?
Speaker 2: Thank you? Talk soon? All right, PALP talk to you
Speaker 2: bye bye. We'll take a very quick break here. We're
Speaker 2: going to continue talking about this in the next hour.
Speaker 2: The murder of the mystery in New York, and it
Speaker 2: has everything to do with who was the murderer and
Speaker 2: what was the motive of the person who pulled the
Speaker 2: trigger or the person who hired that guy to pull
Speaker 2: the trigger. This is going to be an interesting story
Speaker 2: and we're going to talk about it in the next hour,
Speaker 2: so feel free. The only lines open, I have one
Speaker 2: at six one seven, two, five, four to ten thirty,
Speaker 2: and I have two at six one seven, nine three
Speaker 2: one ten thirty back on Night's side right after this