Speaker 1: By Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, the Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Epstein matter continues unobated. I tweeted on this about a
Speaker 1: week ago in which I did not believe what Pam
Speaker 1: Bondy was saying. I do not believe Nick Pttell what
Speaker 1: the head of the FBI was saying. I do not believe.
Speaker 1: I hate to say this, Dan Bongino, I think he's wonderful.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily believe what he's saying. I don't disbelieve,
Speaker 1: so I wanted to dive deeper into this whether Cashpttel
Speaker 1: knows more than he's saying. And of course the one
Speaker 1: man that knows everything is Nick Bryant. He's a veteran
Speaker 1: investigative journalist, widely regarded, holding a PhD. In all things Epstein.
Speaker 1: Going back to about twenty oh five, when these matters began,
Speaker 1: you might recall US Attorney Alex Acosta kind of unt
Speaker 1: easy on Epstein in twenty eight part of the Bush administration.
Speaker 1: He said that Acostas said that there was someone up
Speaker 1: higher in the food chain or him to back off.
Speaker 1: You only two possibilities for Bush forty three or the
Speaker 1: or Gonzales, the Attorney General Alberto himself. That began in
Speaker 1: twenty oh eight. This's been going off nearly twenty years.
Speaker 1: And first of all, Nick Brian, welcome, I think for
Speaker 1: the first time to the Bill Cunningham show. Let's go
Speaker 1: to number one, which what led you to investigate Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Epstein when so few others around the world were paying
Speaker 1: any attention going back almost twenty years.
Speaker 2: I started investigating Jeffrey Epstein in twenty twelve.
Speaker 3: And the reason I did that is I published.
Speaker 2: A book in twenty oh nine twenty ten about a
Speaker 2: nationwide pedophile network that was covered up by federal authorities.
Speaker 2: And what we see with Epstein, it's kind of a
Speaker 2: carbon copy.
Speaker 3: In many ways of the network that I reported on.
Speaker 2: And it's the same as far as children being flown
Speaker 2: around the country and pandered to berry power for individuals,
Speaker 2: and also an intelligence connection and blackmail.
Speaker 1: Wow, well I could ask you, as it's still ongoing.
Speaker 1: I pray to god it isn't. But Jeffrey Epstein received
Speaker 1: a sweetheart deal like in twenty oh eight for serious misbehavior.
Speaker 1: Talk about p Diddy situations. It was awful. And why
Speaker 1: did Jeffrey Epstein in twenty oh eight get a sweetheart
Speaker 1: deal when it came to trafficking children for sex. Why
Speaker 1: was the deal so easy on Jeffrey Epstein In twenty eight.
Speaker 2: The Department of Justice knew about had a list of
Speaker 2: thirty four Jeffrey Epstein victims.
Speaker 3: I've got that list, but they.
Speaker 2: Were aware of forty underage Jeffrey Epstein victims and Alexander Acosta,
Speaker 2: and he alluded to this, was told that he had
Speaker 2: to stand down from prosecuting Jeffrey Epstein because Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 2: was intelligence. And as you also said, there's only two
Speaker 2: people in the and that was in two of seven.
Speaker 2: There's only two people in the country that can tell
Speaker 2: a US attorney to stand down. One is the Attorney
Speaker 2: General and one is the president. And there's no way
Speaker 2: the Attorney general is going to cover up a nationwide
Speaker 2: pedophile network without his boss saying cover it up. So
Speaker 2: that's when the cover up with Jeffrey Epstein started. That
Speaker 2: we can definitively prove.
Speaker 1: You know, I do not think currently there's much thought
Speaker 1: about George Bush forty three is covering up a nationwide
Speaker 1: pedophile network involving one Jeffrey Epstein. To me, that's somewhat
Speaker 1: we're talking about Bush and Cheney. Why in the hill
Speaker 1: would Bush slash Cheney cover up the crimes of Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1: What's the motivation?
Speaker 2: I believe that they were protecting They were protecting very
Speaker 2: powerful people. But I believe that they were protecting a
Speaker 2: political system that's ripe with blackmail, and Americans are very
Speaker 2: naive about that. And actually there was a there's a
Speaker 2: city and US congressman from Tennessee. His name is Tim Burchett,
Speaker 2: and he came out about a year and a half
Speaker 2: ago and he said, my colleagues are being compromised in
Speaker 2: honey traps, and that has been the case. Political blackmail
Speaker 2: is as old as our republic itself. So they're protecting
Speaker 2: a system of blackmail, which I think is even more
Speaker 2: important than protecting the number of these very powerful props.
Speaker 1: Hasn't Bush forty three gotten away? Shall we say? Without
Speaker 1: remarks or criticisms about this, I would say, if somebody
Speaker 1: would ask him he doesn't give interviews anymore, he would
Speaker 1: say I don't know anything about that. He would simply
Speaker 1: ignore it. Is there any objective evidence, like emails about
Speaker 1: these orders given to Acosta? The age to stand down
Speaker 1: is simply a word of mouth that somehow somebody in
Speaker 1: the White House made a telephone call in twenty oh
Speaker 1: eight to Acosta in Miami to stand down. Is there
Speaker 1: any hard evidence there was any connection between Bush forty
Speaker 1: three and Jeffrey Epstein any connection.
Speaker 2: There isn't a direct connection. But Bush's father was actually
Speaker 2: his administration covered up the Franklin network, and his attorney
Speaker 2: general was William Barr, And William Barr was Trump's first
Speaker 2: attorney general, and he covered up the Epstein networks. And
Speaker 2: there isn't a definitive voicemail.
Speaker 3: There isn't a definitive email. But as I said, and.
Speaker 2: I've talked to legal scholars about this, because I really
Speaker 2: wanted to be right, the only people, the only two
Speaker 2: people that can tell a US attorney to stand down
Speaker 2: is the Attorney general and the president.
Speaker 1: And it happened. What sentence did Jeffrey Epstein receive and
Speaker 1: twenty eight that was far different than other pedophile sexual
Speaker 1: e forgursive children received? What kind of sentence that Epstein
Speaker 1: received in twenty eight.
Speaker 2: He was sentenced to eighteen months in the county jail.
Speaker 2: He served thirteen months, and he was actually able to
Speaker 2: go out during the day and molest underage girls. Well,
Speaker 2: he was ostensibly incarcerated, and then he had his little
Speaker 2: wing of the jail fixed up like the TAIJ.
Speaker 3: Mahon.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, while in the county jail, he's given
Speaker 1: like work release to go out and molest children.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, absolutely, How's that possible?
Speaker 1: I mean I've heard how's it possible that that could
Speaker 1: happen in Miami? I guess this would be like twenty
Speaker 1: nine to twenty ten. How is it possible he could
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 2: Well, how is it possible that the federal government could
Speaker 2: have a list of thirty four victims that he molested?
Speaker 2: Anderdon got molested, didn't only do eighteen months in a
Speaker 2: county jail? I mean, how is that?
Speaker 3: And the Feds knew at forty victims?
Speaker 2: So how is that possible that he the most prolific
Speaker 2: child molester. I believe that's ever been acknowledged by federal
Speaker 2: law enforcement.
Speaker 3: How is that possible?
Speaker 2: It's because the strings were pulled at the apex of
Speaker 2: power to allow him to walk essentially unmolesting all those
Speaker 2: unraged girls.
Speaker 1: Uh, Nick Bryant, I would assume by twenty ten, Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Astein was done with his sentence or so. He then
Speaker 1: spent the next many many years flying around the world
Speaker 1: Lolita Island. This is a convicted pedophile. You would think
Speaker 1: he would be like radioactive, nobody would want to be
Speaker 1: with him at all. But during this time frame from
Speaker 1: twenty ten to twenty nineteen when he killed himself, is
Speaker 1: it true he was out doing exactly the stuff he
Speaker 1: was doing before, but on steroids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't even a speed bump for him, and
Speaker 2: the upper.
Speaker 3: Echelon still community.
Speaker 2: The former CI director William Burns actually visited him a
Speaker 2: couple of times at his house, and we know about
Speaker 2: Bill Gates and Sergey Brand, a founder of Google. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it wasn't even a speed bump. But the government is
Speaker 2: saying now is that Jeffrey Epstein didn't pander a single child.
Speaker 3: And that's really really egregious.
Speaker 2: With that memo that came out last week that nobody
Speaker 2: would sign. I mean, no one in the Trump administration
Speaker 2: was going to take a fall for that memo. But
Speaker 2: that memo said that Jeffrey Epstein molested over a thousand
Speaker 2: underage girls by himself. Now I do agree with the
Speaker 2: memo that that part anyway, that he did molest over
Speaker 2: a thousand underage girls by himself, but the memo also
Speaker 2: said that he didn't pander the girls and blackmail.
Speaker 3: Wasn't involved home. So what was Jeffrey Epstein doing on
Speaker 3: his island?
Speaker 2: Was he just going to his island and drinking martinis
Speaker 2: and then flying back.
Speaker 3: The whole thing is absurd. And then with Dlayne Mashwell,
Speaker 3: so they're.
Speaker 2: Saying Epstein acted alone, But then Dlainne Maxwell is in
Speaker 2: prison and Dahlayne Mashwell was indicted on two.
Speaker 3: Conspiracies e noone else was indicted.
Speaker 2: The same thing is happening with Diddy right now because
Speaker 2: there were multiple people involved with Diddy's criminal enterprise. So
Speaker 2: the elite have a very different judicial system than you.
Speaker 1: Or me, Nick Briant. How did Jeffrey Epstein get all
Speaker 1: of his money? One estimate was a half a billion dollars.
Speaker 1: He did not have a college education, and that he
Speaker 1: lived the lifestyles of the rich and famous. Where did
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein get hundreds of millions of dollars from? Where
Speaker 1: did the money come from?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: Less Wechner gave him power of attorney over his empire,
Speaker 2: and less Wexner was the CEO of El Brands, which
Speaker 2: owned Victoria's Secret and Tommy Helpeger. He's a billionaire and
Speaker 2: Epstein could do anything he wanted with that money. And
Speaker 2: this is how the mainstream media has been so disingenuous.
Speaker 2: Vanity Fair actually had an article that addressed this, and
Speaker 2: they said that Les Wexner gave Jeffrey Epstein power of
Speaker 2: attorney over his billions.
Speaker 3: Was because he was lonely. And then and this is
Speaker 3: another this is another good one.
Speaker 2: Leon Black, who was the head of Apollo Management, another billionaire,
Speaker 2: and another individual that was Jeffrey Epstein was pandering underage
Speaker 2: girls too.
Speaker 3: He gave Jeffrey Epstein one hundred and sixty million dollars.
Speaker 2: And there were multiple media outlets that reported that the
Speaker 2: reason why Leon Black, allionaire gave Jeffrey Epstein one hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty million dollars was because Jeffrey Epstein was helping
Speaker 2: him with his taxes.
Speaker 1: Great guy, one, I don't believe any of that. I
Speaker 1: don't believe I'd be your friend for one hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty one million dollars. He's got to provide some services
Speaker 1: of some type commensurate with the value given. This guy
Speaker 1: lived the lifestyles of the rich and famous. Well, why
Speaker 1: didn't Maxwell she Exlaine Maxwell, the top deputy of Jeffrey Epstein,
Speaker 1: is serving like twenty years in federal prison in the
Speaker 1: state of Florida. If she knew incriminating information against anyone
Speaker 1: of the rich and fame is not named, why wouldn't
Speaker 1: she disgorge that information to save her own hide?
Speaker 2: For the same reason that Jeffrey Epstein is dead, It's
Speaker 2: because she knows that entire network. And I believe that
Speaker 2: she was told either you can talk, and well, if
Speaker 2: you talk, you're going to end up like Jeffrey Epstein,
Speaker 2: if you were going to push you in prison for
Speaker 2: a while, and you're going to have to adjust to that.
Speaker 2: But she was putting a very cush prison, and then
Speaker 2: she was cycled into dormitory living, which is very rare
Speaker 2: for relatively new inmates to live in dormitory living because
Speaker 2: it's usually inmates that have been exemplary and are fairly
Speaker 2: close to getting discharged from the prison.
Speaker 3: So she's got to cush life and prison and she's.
Speaker 2: Going to get all that money when she gets out.
Speaker 2: So and the same thing happened in the Franklins gown.
Speaker 2: I wrote that book about the interstate child trafficking, and
Speaker 2: there were two primary pedophilic pimps. One kept his bull
Speaker 2: shut and did about ten years for financial crimes and
Speaker 2: then he had a no show job waiting for him
Speaker 2: at a BM BMW dealership in Alexandria, Virginia, so he
Speaker 2: was taking care of And the other one was much
Speaker 2: like Epstein. He had a big ego and I think
Speaker 2: it would have been hard for him to deal with prison,
Speaker 2: and he committed suicide. So I think that I think
Speaker 2: that Dwayne Maxwell was given Door one in door two,
Speaker 2: Dor one.
Speaker 3: She keeps them all shed and does some time door too.
Speaker 3: She ends up like Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what. This is used by the
Speaker 1: media now to drive a wedge between Mega supporters and
Speaker 1: President Trump himself. Can you predict in the next few
Speaker 1: weeks or months, what's going to come out of this
Speaker 1: thing or is it simply going to die on the vine.
Speaker 3: I don't see this dying on the vine. I mean
Speaker 3: what the Trump administration is doing. It's covering up a.
Speaker 2: For thousands of girls that were molested, well over a
Speaker 2: thousand girls that were molested, and it's line it's it's
Speaker 2: saying that Jeffrey Epstein didn't pander any of these girls, that.
Speaker 3: That there was no blackmail involved. I mean, no one
Speaker 3: believes that.
Speaker 2: I mean there are some hardcore mega people that are
Speaker 2: living in extreme but no one else believes that.
Speaker 3: So this is something. When the Trump administration said that
Speaker 3: they were going.
Speaker 2: To release the Epstein files, they put a white elephant
Speaker 2: in the living room, right, and they thought that they
Speaker 2: could kill the white elephant with the memo that was
Speaker 2: released last week saying that Jeffrey Epstein acted alone, but.
Speaker 3: That killed the elephant.
Speaker 2: But now the elephant is still in the living room,
Speaker 2: and now it's really starting to stink.
Speaker 1: Well, let's see what happens. It's a fascinating tale. And
Speaker 1: this makes p did he look like he committed misdemeanors
Speaker 1: compared to what Jeffrey Epstein did for what from at
Speaker 1: least twenty oh six, probably be well before that to
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein traffic miners for twenty five years.
Speaker 2: And I've started an nonprofit organization called Epstein Justice, and
Speaker 2: your listeners can go to Epstein Justice dot com and
Speaker 2: if they want to be part of the solution.
Speaker 3: If they really want to get justice for all.
Speaker 2: These victims and want the government to come clean, that's
Speaker 2: what we're about. And so I would suggest that you
Speaker 2: and your listeners go to Epstein Justice dot com.
Speaker 1: All right, Nick Brian, investigative Journalists, thanks for coming on
Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham Show. The truth will set us all free.
Speaker 1: The truth will set us free. And Nick Brian, thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on the show. And may God bless you
Speaker 1: and God bless America. Nick, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Bill.
Speaker 1: All right, let's continue with more. There you have it.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say, Dwight General. I would
Speaker 1: trust Cash Betel and Dan Bongino, and I would trust Bambondi.
Speaker 1: But this thing has me in turmoil because I don't
Speaker 1: know who to believe. I don't know who to trust.
Speaker 1: I know a bunch of girls were victimized, and maybe
Speaker 1: as many known thirty four to forty, but the reporting
Speaker 1: is close to one thousand over twenty five years, and
Speaker 1: while in jail, he was released on work release to
Speaker 1: go have sex with girls. Unbelievable. Bill Cunningham News Radio
Speaker 1: seven hundred Wow.