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Speaker 2: I'd like to welcome to the show, Mark Hodges.

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Speaker 3: Hey do Mark, Oh, I'm doing perfect. Thanks Alex. I

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monored to be on your show. Thanks for inviting me,

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and I've been looking forward to this interview for quite

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some time.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it dot's take a couple of minutes to get

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onto the show nowadays, but I do appreciate you coming on, man,

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and I'm looking forward to talking about your unique experiences

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that you've had in your life and sharing them with

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the audience. My first question is, what was your life

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like before you had your near death experience.

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Speaker 3: I had a military career before my professional career. In

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civilian life, I was in the air. I was in

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the Air Force, but I worked for the NSSA. They

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would call my job now nowadays they would say, I'm

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my job was a what's now called an intelligence analyst,

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but back then we didn't call that, but uh, that

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was really who I worked for it was n ESSAY

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and the Defense Intelligence Agency. It was run by the Army,

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by the way, And then I did that for four

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tours of duty, did the whole Pacific rim and you

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could say I was involved in communications technologies, anything having

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to do with electromagnetic waves, which really prime me to

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understand all the paranormal stuff that was happening and would

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happen in my life from there on. It was very

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important concept to know is how all these waves are

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moving all through the universe and all around us. We

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could get into lay lines and all that stuff, but

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it's really I realized that I had been grooned my

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whole life to understand that part of all this. So

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I could put the pieces together to tell you, tell

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you all how I see things, how they work in

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the universe, at least some of it. Still have questions

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on how a lot of it works.

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Speaker 2: But were you Were you spiritual before the near death experience?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I guess you could say, not religious. Okay, So

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so after I got out of the Air Force, I

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became a software development manager for a major bank and

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retired in two thousand and fourteen. Really not by choice.

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I just became really sick in two thousand and eight,

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and somehow managed to survive the retirement until I was

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had enough rest of time in the company. I was

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able to not work anymore at that time. But as

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far as religion goes, so it's funny you mentioned that

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because I mentioned this in a few other interviews I've had.

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I grew up my family was a Seventh Day Adventue,

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So have you ever heard of that religion before. So

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an interesting doctrine of theirs is they don't believe you

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have a soul. They believe we all share kind of

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like a shared soul, and it's basically the Holy Spirit

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they think. They say, when you die, the Holy Spirit

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returns to heaven and then you just stay in the

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ground and are resurrected when Jesus comes again. That's the

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basic premise of the religion. And of course the seventh

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part of it, it's just stay worship on Saturday, just like

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Muslims and Jewish people, because that was one of the

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ten commandments. So, knowing growing up in that religion, I

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had no idea that there ever was such a thing

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as a near death experience or out of body experience,

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or even that I had a soul. It wasn't until

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really in my near death experience I even comprehended that,

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and so so yes, it's spiritual for sure. I've always

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been searching for this mysterious angel for lack of a

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better term, that disappeared in front of my eyes when

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I was eleven years old. So you can consider me

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one of the very og ghost hunters because I was

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always searching for this. How this happened, like there was

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a there was an angel or a helper or a

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guide or whatever that materialized in our world and helped

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my uncle and I out of a really tough situation

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when I was eleven years old. And when when that

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all finished, he just van literally he just vaned. Him

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in his car that we were in just vanished in

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front of my eyes. And I don't know who else,

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if anybody saw that. But and so my whole life

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I was searching for what that could be, who that was?

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spiritual maybe not like in a big sense, but I

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knew there had to be something bigger than.

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Speaker 3: Then we know in this I called this an illusion

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now since net experience, because it basically is an illusion.

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Speaker 1: We're living well I didn't been talked about in you know,

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the Vedic texts in India, the the Great Illusion, the

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Great Dream, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't delved into a lot of the ancient

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Indian writings yet like you have, but those are definitely

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on my list. A matter of fact, that's the whole

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premise of my channel is to learn or remember, I say,

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I call learning remembering now to remember all the different

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languages that we already know in our DNA, through all

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the lives that we're living right now while we're living

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this life. I know that's to some people who have

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never heard of this concept, apologize, but it's a lot

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for this brain or ill. I call our brain a

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spirit trap, just like the Ghostbusters. You have those little traps. Yeah,

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that's our brain.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you want to start making heads explode,

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Just tell everybody that there is no past life, there

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is no future life.

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Speaker 2: It's happening at the exact same.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right. I always tell I told everybody that

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because I experienced that when I died.

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Speaker 1: So we've hinted about this, what happened, what happened in

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the day of your new death experience, what led up

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Speaker 3: So I was in surgery number five of thirteen, and

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my last two surgeries I had, I was in a coma.

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one at the end, maybe to show the difference between

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two possible near death experiences. One I was in a

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coma and didn't know I was in a coma when

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point where a quantum entanglement or something happened in the

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operating room and I came out of my body. So

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those are two separate animals. You can't really lump those

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into the same category. But it's very interesting that I

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had both of them. So I can come back and

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tell you guys about it. So tell us, okay. So

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the first surgery, the surgery the Inde first India, happened

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about a decade to go, about twelve years ago now,

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and I had surgery. They opened me all the way

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up from my like my sterno area, all the way

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down past my belly button, and they had to they

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put this mission side me. You know that. I'm sure

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you've seen all the commercials on TV about all the

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lawsuits and all this stuff. Well I'm one of those victims.

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part of those major class action suits, so maybe one

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day I'll see some kind of compensation. But it put

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my life through hell for over a decade. Now I'm

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still not right because of it. I don't when they

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took it out finally, they didn't replace it with anymore mesh.

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the surgeon goes, I don't know, and here we are

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five years later. That was twenty seventeen. So anyway back

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to the NDE when at some point.

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Speaker 3: Something stopped working in my body. I used to think

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it was breathing, but I had a there was an

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antent phusiologist that didn't think so she thought maybe it

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was my heart stopped beating. So something happened and it

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stopped me from stopped my bodily functions from doing whatever,

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and I came out of my body. And that's that moment.

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I came out through my head backwards, and it's sort

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of I when I gave my interview, the first interview

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ever about this, back in January to the on the

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Jeff Marras Show. It feels, I said, It feels kind

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of like you're in a pool and you got your

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legs your feet up against the walls the side of

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a pool, and then you push off, and that gliding

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back motion is kind of how I felt when I

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came out and mixed with the biggest kind of high

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you could ever imagine. Like people call it love. It's

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just the biggest feeling of warmth and love and everything's

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gonna be all right, kind of feeling right. And so

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I did this. I kind of kind of slid back,

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glided back kind of at an upward angle from my body,

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and I was looking down at myself for a while,

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and I was trying to tell them I didn't want

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to go back to that body, like stop trying to

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save me, you know, because I had been in so

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much pain and misery for the five years before that

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that I was done. I was at the end of

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my rope at that point, I just didn't want to

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go on anymore. And so after a little while after,

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you know, they couldn't hear me. That was really frustrating

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for me. But eventually I got like a tractor beam

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would suck you back. I got sucked back into one

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of the outlets electrical outlets in the operating room of

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the hospital. And because of that, I now know that

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our soul or spear body, whatever you want to label it,

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it runs on alternating current, or there is alternating current

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associated with oursal I can tell you that it's very important.

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And so anyway, I once I got inside one of

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those prongs in the outlet, I went, I shot really fast,

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like through this long tunnel slash wormhole. It was more

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like a wormhole like in a Star Trek movie or something,

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or like in Contact when you see going through all

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those wormholes. It was. It looked exactly like that, except

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the difference is I was going faster than light. I

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don't I know that it doesn't seem possible, but even

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Franco Romero we were talking about he told me that

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it was one of your earlier guests you had on

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Beck in May. He told me that there are much

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faster forms of energy than light, and so call it gravity,

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whatever you want to call it. I was in it,

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and I was going faster than light, and I just

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remember just seeing colors that I've never seen before, sparkling everywhere,

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and It's just kind of like going on a ride

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in the music park, the best ride you've ever been

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on for the first time. Kind of terrified, but yet

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you know everything was going to be okay. And then

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at some point, I don't know, I don't know how

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long that was in our time, but when that when all,

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when the tunnels stopped, when the wormholes stopped, everything just went.

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All the light and everything that I had been passing

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sort of all caught up with me boom like that.

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and I knew that I was dead on the operating

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table in Tampa, Florida. But where I was in this

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bathroom was San Diego, California, but not this San Diego.

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how to tell you how I knew that. It's just

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something I knew, okay, things when you're out of your body.

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I can see why our brains are designed the way

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they're designed, because when you're out of your body or

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in between lives, I guess you could call it, there

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is kind of no time or space. So it's hard

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to say how long I was actually dead on the

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oppering table for it could have been seconds, maybe, but

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in this time it went on for years and years

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but this is exactly what I experienced. And so in

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this bathroom, I looked in the mirror. I was looking

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in the mirror when I stopped in this wormhole, and

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I at first I thought I was kind of like

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a fly on the wall. I was experiencing somebody else.

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I was observing somebody else's life because I knew I

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was dead on the oppering table. So I was like, Okay,

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so I don't know what this is, but let's real

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roll with it, this kind of thing. And eventually I

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realized that I was controlling the body of the face

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looking in the mirror. I'm like, how is this possible?

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was like, how is this possible? Because I was looking

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at a kid in the mirror. I was like sixteen

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years old in that one, and imagine I was trying

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to figure this out. And so that was the first

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life I was able to experience. And I was able

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to experience that life for a couple of years from

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like when I was sixteen until I was eighteen in

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my life, and I realized while I was experiencing this,

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I figured out I understood a lot of things. It

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took a while. I'm not even sure how long it took.

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A lot of this is story when you come back

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to this brain. A lot of the details of all

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this kind of go by the wayside. But the most

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important thing for me to know about that experience was

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that this life was connected to this life, the one

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I'm talking to you right now, and the things that

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I was experiencing in that life mattered to this life,

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and vice versa. And then once I understood the reason

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for that life, I've moved on to another life. And

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this has kept happening like dominoes, one life after the other,

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after an after so many, so many, I lost track

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of how many life.

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Speaker 1: Are they also, so when you kept jumping from life

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to life, they were in different realities. If you said,

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alternate alternate timelines.

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Speaker 3: If you will, Yeah, and some I would even say,

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are what I call I call sandbox lives now, like

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there's like lives within lives, like or kind of test

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bad lives. Think of it that way. I know it's weird,

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but so imagine. I always tell people now after the

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fact that our thoughts are so important you can't even

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imagine how important they are. Like, we are really creators.

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Whatever we think happens. It may not happen in front

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of you in this life, but it happened somewhere. And

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that's why these test bed lives are set up. Things

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that you do get tested. They'll say, you're thinking about

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doing something you probably shouldn't be doing. That actually happens,

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whether it be you know, whether you're drinking and driving

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or want to kill somebody or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to go rob a bank, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And all these things happen, they get carried

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up and which I want to get into this maybe

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later if we had time. There's so much to talk about.

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I could just spend our whole interview is just on

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one of these lives, just to tell you about all that.

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Speaker 2: And now we're all these lives.

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Speaker 1: We're all these lives that you were being thrown into.

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Speaker 3: Now I wasn't thrown into him. I was already there.

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Speaker 1: And then right, so you're but you kept popping into

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other lives, you said, right, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Kind of It kind of reminded me of a Christmas

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Carol right with screws. It takes a trip with you know,

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the spirits of Christmas past President.

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Speaker 1: It's almost it sounds like quantum leap. It almost sounds

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like quantum leap ship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I call that quantum I call I call it

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a quantum clock. Now, we all have a quantum clock,

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if you will. So every so, a second here seems

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kind of fast to us, but in many other dimensions,

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a second is a long time.

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Speaker 1: Well that's like an interstellar, Like an interstellar where when

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they go down to the planet, fifteen minutes to them

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turned out to be like thirty years.

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Speaker 2: Right for the guy up in the That's exactly what

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I experienced.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I experienced this.

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Speaker 1: I know its time is very relevant. Depend the time is.

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We can have a conversation about time.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people think there's no time outside of

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this dimension, but I don't think so. I think there are.

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There is somewhat of a time in dimensions. Outside of dimensions,

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that's another story.

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Speaker 1: So, okay, so you're jumping from or experiencing life to life.

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I'm assuming they're different people. Sometimes you're a guy, sometimes

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you're a girl. Some cultures, so you're just jumping and

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experience in different lives during this whole process. As you

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continue to do this in this NDE. Is there any

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other Is there any other guide? Is there any other entity?

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Is there anything else that you feel even if you

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can't see it or you're just being thrown into multiple lifetimes.

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We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 3: One thing I knew for sure is that there is

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this greater force. I call it the infinite One. Now

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you know, you could call it God or source. Some

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people call it source. I've never heard that term until

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I started doing these interviews, and now here all the

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time source. So what people call source, I call the

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infinite One, which is basically you and me. You and

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me are part of this source, a part of this

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infinite One. We all make it up. And when somebody

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says we we have higher selves, I even believe I've

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heard others say this too. I believe that we all

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share that higher self. There is not an individual Highers

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And but go back to Franko again. He has so

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many good things I learned from him. Like he said,

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you can you can be a drop of drop of

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a drop of water, can survive without an ocean, but

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an ocean can't survive without a drop of water. That's

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sort of how he can look at our souls and

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how they operate. We're all experiencing separate experiences, but there's

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something bigger on the other side that's receiving that experience, right, some.

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Speaker 2: Main frame, the acastic records, if you will.

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly so, coming from an IT background, I relate

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a lot to what I experienced in those kind of terms,

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Like you're right, imagine the kind of computing power that's

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necessary to make this whole record thing reality. For example,

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whenever you have a deja vu moment, I figured out

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how that works. Okay, So from this experience, So when

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you have that feeling like, oh my god, I have

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never been here before, but yet I know I haven't,

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so how is that possible? Well, that's because about a

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millisecond ago, or even shorter than that, you were already

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there or would be there. And this happens over and

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over and over and over and over. And this is

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how the timelines go on. There's just not one moment

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in time. There's just that keeps going over and over

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until something stops it. So this is where I'm at

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lately and my understanding I'm trying to right now. I've

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learned that talking or channeling our our future self and

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our past self, there is a way to change timelines.

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Oh yeah, and I've been sort of teaching people what

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I've been thinking lately about that.

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Speaker 1: All right, So you're jumping from your quantum, leaping from

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from a different from different lifetimes and different and different

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I guess timelines. But they're all on Earth, right, they're

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all different San Diegos.

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Speaker 2: They might do different New York. Oh no, they're not.

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Speaker 3: So you're going galaxies other places. Yeah, other places that

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I don't even know how to describe it, like, yeah,

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there's places, different bodies, different atmospheres, different all kinds of

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things are happening. We're living at the same time. And

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so I I still have questions, you know, I when

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you come back to this, your mind, just our mind

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is designed for us to forget all that, okay, when

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we come here and we're over, when we come to

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another body. But one of the biggest questions I haven't

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answered yet is in at what point do we decide

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or just something else decide for us when to inhabit

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another body, for example.

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Speaker 2: Because I incarnate, incarnate, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Incarnate right, yeah, And I don't remember incarnating in this body,

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but a lot of my autistic friends do, and they

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told me that we all I always choose our mother,

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and we know while we came here, et cetera, et cetera.

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I knew why I came here, but I didn't really

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know that until I was two years old, or I

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didn't remember until I was two two years old, I

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told my parents why I came here because I had

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to deliver a message of all humanity one day, an

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important message, and I had to learn all the languages

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on earth. So so.

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Speaker 1: We're really quickly think so as as you're jumping from

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from lifetime to lifetime in different timelines, what happens at

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the end of this quantum leaping, if you will.

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Speaker 3: Nothing happens. I just there was there was a point

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when I got to right before I came back into

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this body, and I don't know how long it was

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from that point until the time I woke up in

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the recovery room, because I was back into general Anesesia

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at that point. So I don't remember that. But what

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was what I was, what I remember, what I was

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experience and sying at the before I came back was

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I got to see a place where we're all going,

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call it heaven. But it wasn't seen with eyes. It

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was feeling. It was a feeling I got and I

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was at a distance from it, like, but I can

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tell you this place has a lot. There's a new

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type of love we're going to learn about or interacting

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and it's remember remember, yeah, we're already in all these places.

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And that's why when I talk about astral projection and

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stuff nowadays, it's really we're not traveling anywhere. We're already

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everywhere because basically everything has a black hole, and that's

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how we travel. We travel through black holes. That's how

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it works. And really I think the black the word

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black hole is kind of a misnomer. It's really more

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like a game way or a portal. That's what they are,

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a portal time, if you will, time and space. But

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what I experienced was that that's the last thing I

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experienced was where we're all going. And that's that was

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part of my message to bring back to you all,

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was to tell you it's there's something so amazing that

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I can't express it in any language. I don't have

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words for it. But it's an amazing and it's already here.

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It's already here all around us right now. And call

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it heaven on earth, whatever you want to call it.

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It's everywhere, and we can't experience it until we are

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vibrating at that frequency. Put it that way, And that

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is part of what I'm learning about, is how to

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I just found out like a month ago that we

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could walk through portals on this earth, in this realm

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with our bodies.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever heard that, MD.

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Speaker 3: I've never heard of that before. I didn't know that

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was even possible.

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Speaker 1: So okay, so you you're jumping in at the end,

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you're kind of on the way out of this space,

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going back to your body, you see heaven or lack

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of a better.

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Speaker 3: Word, I feel it.

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Speaker 1: I feel I feel you feel it, and then you

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get kind of what slammed back into you or you

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just wake up in your body.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't even experience. I don't even remember coming

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back to my body at all. I just remember waking

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up in the recovery room. At some point after that experience.

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I had feeling that next place we're all going to

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and we're talking about like a thousand year span of

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time that I was gone from here. I know that

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sounds crazy, but I was able experienced lives like that

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far ahead.

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Speaker 2: And how much do you remember?

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Speaker 3: Though? Details about every life a lot, But I'm still

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remembering every day. I have dreams about places I've got

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and I realized I was there, and then so I

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need to I probably need to write start writing everything

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down like, but I don't have time for that right

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now because so many more important things are happening because

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right now, so what I remember the most was the

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reason for the lives more than the lives themselves. The

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details those are kind of mundane details, but the lessons

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of why I was in these other lives is more important.

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You just can't imagine how connected we all are. It's

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mind boggling, Like when you go to a restaurant, your

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wife or something and you see all the people around you.

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They are all connected to you. And when I the

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first I think, I went to IHOP and I got

480
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out of the hospital from that surgery, and my mind

481
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,000
was just going a million miles a second, and it

482
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,279
took me about a month for everything just to calm

483
00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:20,240
down where I could cope here in this life.

484
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Speaker 1: Because we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

485
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,960
and now back to the show.

486
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Speaker 3: Of all the things I experienced, I realized, oh my god.

487
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,119
The first thing I realized when I got back to

488
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,599
this body was I've wasted so much time in my life.

489
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,319
Wasted time. I'm talking about like even watching TV or

490
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:51,240
arguing with people. That's not important at all, all the

491
00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:54,359
negative stuff, it's just it's a waste of time. Like

492
00:30:55,039 --> 00:31:00,279
next time, even one of your your viewers are having

493
00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:02,319
a bad day or something, and try to turn that

494
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,000
bad day into something positive. Because energy doesn't die. We

495
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,640
just go to change it to a positive energy. That's

496
00:31:10,759 --> 00:31:16,400
really the that's really the secret to this life, mastering

497
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,680
this life is love is really all that matters here. Really,

498
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,759
that's why. And it's not really the forgivenes learning to

499
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,079
love and forgive. Just in the last eight months, I've

500
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,759
learned that it's not those things that we have to master,

501
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:41,440
it's it's what it's the vibration that those things generate,

502
00:31:43,119 --> 00:31:46,519
Like being grateful. Being grateful is a higher vibration than love.

503
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:53,119
Being grateful, that's being grateful for everything you have, for

504
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,359
every soul. We have to learn how to love every

505
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,640
soul in our heart. I mean, think about how difficult

506
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,640
that is. You know, doesn't mean we have to be

507
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,960
best friends, but said I'm Hussan or something like that.

508
00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:08,880
But we have to forgive everybody because and that's another

509
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,559
thing I had a problem with when I came back,

510
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:14,400
was I still haven't got a straight answer to this.

511
00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:17,480
Why doesn't I asked a lot of preachers this in

512
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:19,440
my town I was in at the time. I said,

513
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,559
how why doesn't God loved the devil? Jesus? Why does

514
00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:27,240
it Jesus forgive the devilin if we're supposed to do

515
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:28,599
the same thing on our.

516
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:31,279
Speaker 2: Level, Why isn't that a good question?

517
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: And this is what I think like now, I try

518
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,440
to think outside the box as much as I can,

519
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:40,640
because that's what it's all about. It's about changing our

520
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,960
vibration and here on this planet. And this is one

521
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,200
of many plants. Oh my god, yeah, we have other

522
00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:53,039
These are his suits. These bodies are suits. And every

523
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:57,200
system has its own atmosphere, and we have suits that

524
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,680
are built for that atmosphere. For example, we breathe methane

525
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,200
in some places as our oxygen. There you know, it's

526
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:06,799
just different.

527
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: But well, let me ask you when you came back though,

528
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:12,039
Mark you, how did you deal with this ethologically?

529
00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:14,599
Speaker 2: Did you just accept this right away? Or did you

530
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,319
just like, what the hell happened?

531
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: But it this way? Okay? So this was like two

532
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:24,519
thousand and twelve, twenty eleven twelve when it's happened. It

533
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:27,319
was the very beginning of twenty twelve, if I remember,

534
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,160
like I think, it was February ninth, twenty twelve when

535
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:36,920
this event happened. So it's taken me eleven years now

536
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,240
to finally come out with my story because it's taken

537
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:45,880
me that long how to process all this. I'm still processing,

538
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,799
but now I've gotten to a certain point when I

539
00:33:49,839 --> 00:33:53,759
think it's time to kick it into another higher gear now.

540
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,079
But that's not why I came out and said anything

541
00:33:57,119 --> 00:34:00,799
at all. It just it was a circuit. The reason

542
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,400
I came out when I did was a divine intervention.

543
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:12,039
How I even met Jeff Reynolds, It's just that's a

544
00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:18,000
whole nother story itself. But actually my YouTube channel Old Scrolls,

545
00:34:18,519 --> 00:34:20,039
like I said, it was like a play channel of

546
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:22,639
mine that I was going to teach ancient languages the

547
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:27,440
ones I know, and then learn other languages with my subscribers,

548
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:32,760
and I was hoping that it would stir something inside

549
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,199
their still their soul, so they will remember another life

550
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,760
they're living, or like I did when I had my indeed,

551
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,880
because when I was twenty years old, now this is

552
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,840
back in nineteen ninety, I was on a bus in

553
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,559
Honolulu and I was stationed there in the Air Force,

554
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:56,519
and I saw these four Japanese role reading this map

555
00:34:56,559 --> 00:34:58,920
on the bus and they were really they looked really

556
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,320
upset and really low. And when I looked down at

557
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:10,480
their map, Now this is this would be twenty two

558
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,840
years before my end the year. Okay, so back then,

559
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,000
I didn't know anything about indies or nothing like that

560
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:19,159
back then. But when I looked at their map they

561
00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:21,639
were looking at it was written in characters all over

562
00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:24,960
the map, and I had this deja vu moment. At

563
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,679
that point I knew that I knew that language. I knew.

564
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,360
I don't know how I knew that, like kind of

565
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,280
like a child prodigy, you said, them at a piano

566
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,800
when they're like three years old and they just start

567
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,639
playing this big concerto whatever. That's sort of the moment

568
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:45,440
I had that that really exact second. So after later

569
00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:47,800
on that day I went to the University of Hawaii

570
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,159
and I got a book on Japanese characters. And when

571
00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:55,480
I was flipping through this book, all these memories started

572
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:58,639
coming back to me. But I didn't understand how that

573
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,800
was even possible and back then and and so I

574
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:11,039
actually enrolled in a Japanese class in Waikiki. And when

575
00:36:11,079 --> 00:36:15,239
I when I took the entrance test, my sinse gave me.

576
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:18,400
She gave me an oral test, which I didn't understand

577
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,800
a word she said. But when she gave me a

578
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,199
written test, I actually wrote in Japanese. Can you imagine? Wow?

579
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:31,760
I actually wrote. And when I got to Japan after

580
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,239
that tour, I went to Japan for anunther tour duty

581
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:41,239
and the people there said that I wrote like the

582
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:47,199
ancient ones. Yeah. So in my India, I experienced a

583
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,920
life when I was a woman in Japan a long

584
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:57,000
time ago. This is back in like the feudal lord days,

585
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:06,280
and that life was connected with this life in a

586
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,840
lot of ways. So there I had to learn forgiveness

587
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,199
in a very hard way because I had like four

588
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,400
brothers and they were all killed, and so I became

589
00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:22,199
like one of them. I wanted to get revenge for

590
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:27,599
their deaths. So I used to dress like a guy

591
00:37:28,199 --> 00:37:31,840
in a warrior outfit and to go.

592
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: Move long style. Yeah, move long style.

593
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,119
Speaker 3: Right, kind of like the last Samurai type of deal.

594
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:43,159
Speaker 1: So let me ask you. Then, you said you had

595
00:37:43,159 --> 00:37:46,519
a second near death experience. How did that differ from

596
00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:47,079
this one?

597
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: So this was my last two surgeries. This is twenty seventeen,

598
00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:56,360
and I was just visiting some friends in Nashville or

599
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,360
north of Nashville that year, and on Christmas Eve, I

600
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,920
was taken by ambulance down to Nashfield to the hospital,

601
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,119
and that's how it all started. So basically, this mesh

602
00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:12,079
got infected inside me. They didn't know it at that time,

603
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:16,800
but the mesh got all entangled with my insides and

604
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,639
they had to open me up again. So they did

605
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,639
the first surgery. It was kind of like an exploratory

606
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:25,400
surgery because they didn't know exactly what was wrong. And

607
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,280
so the next thing I did was I woke up

608
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,719
and a lot of pain. You know, every time I

609
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,280
hit the button on that pain pump, nothing happened. I

610
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,360
was just I kept getting in worse pain and worse pain.

611
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,440
And then finally I developed this thing called what they

612
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,039
called a fish fillow, which is a fancy term for

613
00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:47,800
a tunnel. A tunnel developed inside me, which wasn't good,

614
00:38:48,559 --> 00:38:53,320
so they had to put me out out. But I

615
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,480
didn't know that they were going to do that. I

616
00:38:56,519 --> 00:38:59,519
didn't know that they were going to put me in

617
00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:05,800
a cometo state. So so at some point after that

618
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,920
second surgery, they just took all the mesh out of

619
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,320
me during that surgery and they put me in a coma. Well,

620
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,760
I woke up in the coma while I was out,

621
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,599
and I know why exactly, because I'm in medical terms

622
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:26,400
of what they call an outlier like it takes a

623
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,519
lot more propofilo, for example, they have to give me

624
00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:33,559
to put me all the way out. And these arenes physiologists.

625
00:39:33,559 --> 00:39:36,440
They always don't believe me when I tell them every

626
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,719
surgery I've had there. You know, it's hard to tell

627
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,159
them things because they don't like people non doctors to

628
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,679
give them advice. Happens every time. It happens every time

629
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,519
I try to tell them, you need to give me

630
00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:53,119
more of this than that, because I'm going to wake

631
00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:55,159
up in excruciating pain if you don't, because it just

632
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:58,519
takes more. For some reason, with my metabolism, I have

633
00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:01,440
red hair jeans. That's part of another doctor told me

634
00:40:01,519 --> 00:40:06,480
later on. Anyway, so I woke up in this coma

635
00:40:06,519 --> 00:40:11,920
because they didn't give me enough medication or whatever. They

636
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,159
were giving me fentanyl, which is toxic to most people.

637
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,320
But like if if Michael Jackson had had my metabolism,

638
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:25,960
he would still be alive today, guarantee. Or this this

639
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:28,960
overdosing because of fintanyl fincannel doesn't even work on me

640
00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:32,079
at all at all. You can give me I views

641
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:33,800
of it and it doesn't do anything to me.

642
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

643
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,159
and now back to the show.

644
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 3: So that's what That's one of the main drugs they

645
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,800
were given me in my I had two central lines

646
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:56,519
in my neck and they when I found out that

647
00:40:56,679 --> 00:40:58,639
after the fact, I said, you got to switch me

648
00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:00,159
from that. I don't respond to that.

649
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So you so you woke up in the coma

650
00:41:03,079 --> 00:41:05,559
or did you? Or did you woke up in the coma?

651
00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:07,760
And then where's the experience? Where's the ND?

652
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,199
Speaker 3: Yeah? So I didn't know. So when I woke up,

653
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,320
the first thing I saw was I was in this

654
00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:20,639
dark void if you will, like or a dark hallway

655
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,480
and at the very end of this black kind of

656
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,239
like tunnel, and I've heard I've heard a lot of

657
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,239
people talk about this called and they call it the void.

658
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,960
I believe I was in this void, whatever that is. Now.

659
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,280
Some of the doctors after I came out of this

660
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,239
experience said that I had what's called delirium. I couldn't

661
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,880
remember that word during my interview with Jeff, but I

662
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,440
remembered that like a few minutes after that interview got done,

663
00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:50,679
it was delirium. So doctors sometimes just chalk it up

664
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,280
to deliriums, which I guess I don't know. I've never

665
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,760
really researched delirium a lot, but I guess that implies

666
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,280
like you're having some kind of action. But to me,

667
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,840
it was no hallucination, Like I was totally wide away

668
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,480
because I'm talking to you right now, just like in

669
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:09,599
my astral projection experiences, which maybe we could talk about

670
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:13,840
on another interview another day, because those are more profound

671
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,599
than my near death experience. Is my astral projection experiences

672
00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:19,840
because I learned how to do it after my near

673
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,800
death experience. I wanted to prove that you could do

674
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:28,239
it because so many people that told me about it

675
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,320
they said, Mark, you don't have to die to experience

676
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,440
what you experience. And that's what got me into astral

677
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,480
projection after that.

678
00:42:36,599 --> 00:42:38,599
Speaker 2: So you walk up in the void, look up in

679
00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:39,360
this void.

680
00:42:39,559 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 3: What's going on here? Because the last thing I knew

681
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,960
I was an excrucinating pain and I was on my

682
00:42:44,039 --> 00:42:48,679
hospital floor and they just started shooty stuff from my

683
00:42:48,679 --> 00:42:51,159
IV and that's the last thing I remember until this moment.

684
00:42:52,199 --> 00:42:54,440
So I didn't know I had gone through another surgery.

685
00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:57,519
I didn't know any of that. I just knew that

686
00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:02,119
I was in this black kind of space and I

687
00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:05,760
saw this little tiny light way up. I mean it

688
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,000
seemed like maybe like three football fields of weight. It's

689
00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:12,079
a real tiny point of light long way away, and

690
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:14,519
I'm like, oh my god, what is that? You know?

691
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,519
And so I sort of started kind of floating towards

692
00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:29,239
that light a little bit. And then at some point

693
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,199
I guess I didn't know what it was. There was

694
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,400
like a lady on the other side of this little window.

695
00:43:35,639 --> 00:43:37,320
It kind of reminds me that like a slit in

696
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,719
the door, like you would serve a traya a few

697
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,280
to somebody in prison. Right, It was little slits. It

698
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,280
was like a little slit like that. So I would

699
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,400
look to the slit, and there there was this lady

700
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,559
on this woman on the other side of that slit,

701
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,280
and she was trying to talk to me, but I

702
00:43:53,320 --> 00:44:00,079
couldn't understand her. And and so this went on for

703
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:03,599
a while, a long while, and maybe I was just

704
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:08,000
in between worlds or something right there. That's probably the

705
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:12,440
delirium part. But then after that, everything started to get

706
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,199
real bright all around me. It was like I kind

707
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:18,159
of like I was in a blue sky, just a

708
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,079
three hundred and sixty three blue sky, and in front

709
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:28,199
of me were all these chrome outlined windows, and each

710
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,960
window sort of reminded me of a maybe a page

711
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,159
on your browser that has all the YouTube videos. That's

712
00:44:35,159 --> 00:44:37,000
what they look like, but a lot cooler, a lot

713
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:43,000
more modern, really shiny chrome borders and all the videos.

714
00:44:43,159 --> 00:44:47,199
And with my mind, I could just play with my

715
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:52,800
mind each one of these videos. And so there were

716
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,239
so many videos I didn't know which one to watch first,

717
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,079
so I just kind of started from the top left

718
00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:59,639
and I kind of went just like I live on

719
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:03,639
YouTube or whatever, and each video kind of showed me

720
00:45:03,679 --> 00:45:11,039
a little sliver of time in the future and sort

721
00:45:11,039 --> 00:45:16,760
of recent past or kind of present. I didn't see

722
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,280
myself on the bed in a comba, though I thought

723
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,960
I was dead. After a while, I thought I had died. Okay.

724
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,280
I didn't know how else to think about it. But

725
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,639
I remembered my near death experience from five years earlier,

726
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,760
and I'm like, well, this is something totally different. So

727
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,119
am I dead? Because when I experienced the same thing

728
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:44,280
I experienced before, I was asking myself all these questions,

729
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,760
and I wasn't in a hurry to figure all this out.

730
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,039
I was very calm. I was in no pain whatsoever.

731
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,519
So I was disconnected from my nervous system somehow, whether

732
00:45:57,679 --> 00:45:59,800
that be I don't know. I don't know the medical

733
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,239
ture analogy to tell you how it works scientifically. But

734
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,559
I was definitely disconnected from my nervous system because I

735
00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:09,239
was feeling no pain like I did when I came

736
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,280
out of that. I didn't know I was intubated. I

737
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,880
didn't know any of that. Alls I could tell I

738
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,320
was in this field of windows at this point, and

739
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:23,880
so I at that point I thought, Okay, I'm going

740
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,880
to figure out why I died. Maybe one of these

741
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,559
videos will show me how I died, you know, so

742
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:32,079
I just started playing the videos and I kept watching

743
00:46:32,159 --> 00:46:35,760
all of them over and over and over and over

744
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:42,199
and over, and I finally got to some well, this

745
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,480
one video, and they would always end. They weren't continuing

746
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:51,800
it continuous feeds. They were clips. Okay, now that I'm

747
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,199
learning how to edit videos, now I can I know

748
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,480
that terminal of you there. So these are clips. They

749
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,880
were not like live streams. There were quantum clips, I

750
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,599
guess you could call them, because some of them had

751
00:47:04,599 --> 00:47:09,199
different outcomes depending on how many times I watched it,

752
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:16,639
if you can imagine that. So this one clip seemed

753
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,639
so I finally got to this one clip where it

754
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:24,679
gave me the closest I could get to seeing why

755
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:29,480
I had died. But then I figured out if I

756
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:33,000
kept if I played this other video with it, I

757
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,559
could get a different outcome or something like that. I

758
00:47:36,639 --> 00:47:38,679
kept playing with the videos until I was trying to

759
00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:44,320
investigate how all this was happening, why I was in

760
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,719
this state, or how I died. So it turns out

761
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,239
that this is how I learned about the clip onetum

762
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,079
clock a lot, because I learned that if I did

763
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:57,079
certain things in some of these other videos, it would

764
00:47:57,079 --> 00:48:01,280
have an effect when I played these other videos in

765
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,960
the sequence I was watching them and seemed to be

766
00:48:05,039 --> 00:48:08,760
important I found out. I found out kind of like

767
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:13,320
the accident. But then so I watched this one video,

768
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,760
then I watched another video, and I kept trying to

769
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,920
create a pattern where I could understand what had led

770
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,800
up to this. And I got to this one video

771
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:27,719
where I actually seemed like instead of stopping where it

772
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:33,679
normally stopped, it kept going and I figured out, okay, well,

773
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:36,800
and those other and the other pattern I watched these

774
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,280
in I did this, and that what if I do

775
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:43,639
this differently, maybe I'll live And sure enough, and that's

776
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:47,920
when I was starting to come out of that delirium

777
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,320
or whatever the doctor say it is. That's when I

778
00:48:52,679 --> 00:48:56,039
just decided to fight to stay alive in this video.

779
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,360
So at this point the video went from a clip

780
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,840
to actual reality. I don't know how that's even possible.

781
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,119
So I knew my outcome before the outcome was even known.

782
00:49:11,159 --> 00:49:16,760
Just like Einstein and others explained about how entanglement works,

783
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,719
it's really like that everything's known ahead of time.

784
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 2: This is all happening at the same time.

785
00:49:23,639 --> 00:49:27,599
Speaker 3: Yes, So that's what I experienced in my first indeed too,

786
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:32,280
I experienced future lives, past lives, and I realized it

787
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:37,480
was all connected to this present life. And so I

788
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,800
can tell you what I experienced was exactly that there

789
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,639
is no such thing as future or president. Like seventeen

790
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,320
seventy six when we became the United States of America,

791
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:52,360
that's still happening that same day, is happening right now.

792
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,800
Can you imagine that it's hard to understand now, I'm

793
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:02,360
realizing these moments, every moment in your life, keep happening

794
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,119
over and over and over and over until something stops

795
00:50:06,199 --> 00:50:08,760
that moment or changes that moment.

796
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:13,039
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

797
00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:21,000
and now back to the show. So and then we're

798
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:23,079
going to just jump off here a second from the

799
00:50:24,119 --> 00:50:26,320
New Death experience, because I think this concept is really

800
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,079
interesting to kind.

801
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,159
Speaker 2: Of dive into just a little bit.

802
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,599
Speaker 1: Is that from what I've heard from different channels, even

803
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:38,679
spiritual masters, is that when there's a thought, and quantum physicists,

804
00:50:38,679 --> 00:50:44,960
by the way, when there's a thought, you create any reality,

805
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,480
any timeline, and another new timeline and another new time,

806
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:53,320
and you're constantly jumping. Yeah, you're kind of jumping back

807
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,039
and forth between timelines based on what you think, because

808
00:50:57,039 --> 00:50:59,280
we all have those thoughts, like in traffic and you're like,

809
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:00,920
I wish I could get out and beat the crap

810
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,280
out of that guy because he's just he's just being

811
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,880
he flicked me off something as stupid as that. Well,

812
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,239
in the timeline, that happened, and that started another because

813
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,679
of the of our power of our mind.

814
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 3: So that all the leaps, it's forever. Yeah.

815
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's an infinite amount of world. It's an

816
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:22,840
infinite amount of multi verses.

817
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:25,159
Speaker 2: If you will. It just continued. So it sounds like.

818
00:51:25,039 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: From your first near death experience you got to travel

819
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,760
a little bit in that world, going from lifetime to

820
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,519
lifetime to lifetime and even in this the second end,

821
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:41,239
you were able to experience different points of a little

822
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,400
bit of the past, a little bit of the future

823
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:44,519
quote unquote, because.

824
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 3: But it was more recent, it was really recent.

825
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:47,159
Speaker 2: It was close.

826
00:51:47,199 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: It was within that realm to the point where you

827
00:51:49,519 --> 00:51:52,079
caught up on the television and then the television on

828
00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:55,559
the screen and that caught up to reality. So is

829
00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:57,639
that how you jumped out of that near death experience

830
00:51:57,679 --> 00:52:00,239
into your own into life where we are now?

831
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly what happened. As matter of fact, Yes, I

832
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,519
saw ahead of time the outcome of me coming out

833
00:52:11,559 --> 00:52:14,119
of it. That's how I knew I had a chance.

834
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,119
I knew I had a fifty to fifty shot. It

835
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:24,280
seemed right getting out. And I was like, because it

836
00:52:24,639 --> 00:52:27,280
up until that point it had been torture, like they

837
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,199
had me on one of these. So after I there

838
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,360
was a point when I came out of all these,

839
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:37,280
when I came out of all those windows, I actually

840
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,320
went back into that field. Once they gave me more

841
00:52:40,519 --> 00:52:42,880
stuff in my ear or whatever, I actually went back

842
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,199
to that window field. But there was a time when

843
00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:51,000
I was just looking well, they put w washcloths on

844
00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:54,000
my eyes all a lot, and I would have got

845
00:52:54,039 --> 00:52:57,360
really mad and frustrated that they did that because then

846
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,440
I couldn't see anything in the room and they had

847
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,360
the Food Network in my on my TV in my room.

848
00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:06,000
The whole time I was in this carline, which is

849
00:53:06,039 --> 00:53:08,960
about a like a week, I had to listened to

850
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:15,840
this Food Network. And they give you this stuff called

851
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:20,239
TPNS like tertiary something. You put that in my central

852
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,559
line for my food. So I remember this nurse kept

853
00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:25,920
coming in and say, okay, mister Hodges. This is your

854
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,880
cheese steak coming in right now or whatever, and then

855
00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:35,119
or this is just got a nice piece of apple

856
00:53:35,159 --> 00:53:41,199
pie coming through your ivy something but that you know,

857
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,280
that doesn't fill you up or satisfy you. But this

858
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,480
food Network was on the whole time, and I got

859
00:53:45,519 --> 00:53:46,199
so mad.

860
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:50,639
Speaker 1: So you, but you came back out of it, and

861
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,320
then You've just been processing it for the last eleven years,

862
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,079
essentially dealing with it, investigating it. I'm just trying to

863
00:53:57,079 --> 00:53:58,159
get an understanding of.

864
00:53:58,119 --> 00:53:58,599
Speaker 2: Where it is.

865
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 3: I tried telling this to a few of my family members,

866
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:05,119
and I just got rejected. Like my father died that

867
00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:08,840
same year. Later on, he had a brain aneurysm and

868
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,880
he died really quickly. But the last conversation we had

869
00:54:13,039 --> 00:54:17,639
in his life was o argument about my near death experience.

870
00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:19,360
He thought it was from the devil.

871
00:54:20,599 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: You know, obviously obviously I was always involved, right, Obviously

872
00:54:25,679 --> 00:54:27,400
there's a demon, there's a devil.

873
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 3: And my brother sisters chose us to stay in that religion,

874
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,719
so they're the same exact way. I can't talk to

875
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,440
him about any of this. And and really back then,

876
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:39,840
when I had ninety, it wasn't so receptive. Back then

877
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,119
either for the average person. So it's been kind of

878
00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:45,400
a lonely life up till now. And now I found

879
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,719
out there's a lot of us that chose to meet here,

880
00:54:50,119 --> 00:54:56,440
meet me here via that ship. The first podcast I

881
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,320
told my story on, I had all these people who

882
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,079
showed up my doorstep, and turns out we all decided

883
00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:06,280
to come here at this time for something really important

884
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,239
and bigger than us. And that's why I'm on your

885
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,440
show right now, because this was all meant to be.

886
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,719
There are no such thing as coincidence. Was at all agreed?

887
00:55:16,039 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 2: Agreed, There's no there's no question.

888
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 1: And if you imagine, you know, ten years ago or

889
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,920
you know, twelve years ago, how how rough it is.

890
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,320
I had people on the show from the seventies and the.

891
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 2: Sixties who had NDEs.

892
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,679
Speaker 1: Who can you imagine trying to have those?

893
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, just I don't know how you are.

894
00:55:32,599 --> 00:55:36,400
I'm fifty four. But so my whole growing up, my

895
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,599
whole teenage years and early adult we didn't have the

896
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:41,239
internet back then, you know, so.

897
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,639
Speaker 2: No, I didn't have it. I'm not that young, sir.

898
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,679
Speaker 1: I remember I remember three channels Saturday Night Cartoon.

899
00:55:50,119 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, well we had a fourth member that we

900
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,719
had the UHF.

901
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,199
Speaker 2: Channel, the UHF channel.

902
00:55:55,519 --> 00:55:57,559
Speaker 3: We had the Little Bunny or Special Bunny.

903
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,039
Speaker 1: With some aluminum foil occasion, and we basically would just

904
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:00,719
on a bicycle.

905
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,119
Speaker 3: So you're playing my generation then.

906
00:56:03,639 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit younger, but not too far. We've

907
00:56:06,039 --> 00:56:08,039
walked over the same bodies, as they say, sir.

908
00:56:11,079 --> 00:56:14,079
Speaker 3: Remember like when I was in the military. Even remember

909
00:56:14,159 --> 00:56:15,920
trying to watch the Super Bowl. We were in one

910
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,480
of those skiffs where you know, and had no windows

911
00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:21,960
or anything. So we one of us would volunteer to

912
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,280
hold up a wire leaning from the back of the

913
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:30,360
TV antenna thing like mcguy. Oh yeah, depending on where

914
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:31,119
you were standing.

915
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, get that? You get that?

916
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:34,159
Speaker 3: Come in?

917
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,599
Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean we sound like old farts here,

918
00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:42,199
but yes, kids, if it's there, anyone anyone under forty

919
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,239
listening right now, are going what what?

920
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,039
Speaker 2: What? We live like savages?

921
00:56:47,079 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 1: Basically we lived like savages essentially.

922
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,679
Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember we got the first pong and I

923
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,559
remember when everything came out.

924
00:56:55,840 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, pong, I remember. Yeah. I hadn't tell I

925
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:06,039
was fancy. I was fancy. I was a talent. I

926
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:07,159
got a tele mission.

927
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,199
Speaker 1: But Mark, thank you so much for sharing your story.

928
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 3: Man.

929
00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: I know we could talk for hours about about this stuff,

930
00:57:17,039 --> 00:57:20,360
but I hope that this conversation helps somebody else going

931
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,400
through it or just gives people an insight to what

932
00:57:23,559 --> 00:57:27,760
were these ideas these concepts, because a lot of the

933
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,800
ideas you have, or a lot of the concepts that

934
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,760
are discussed in both your and near death experiences. It's

935
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,559
stuff that we talk about on the show all the time,

936
00:57:35,679 --> 00:57:42,159
with quantum physicists, with spiritual masters, with channelers, with different

937
00:57:42,199 --> 00:57:43,559
people from different walks.

938
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:44,559
Speaker 2: Of life around the world.

939
00:57:45,239 --> 00:57:48,599
Speaker 1: And you know, again from my perspective being privy to

940
00:57:49,239 --> 00:57:52,639
all of it, my perspective of talking to so many people,

941
00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:55,159
the second you say something, I'm like, oh yeah, that

942
00:57:55,159 --> 00:57:58,800
makes absolute sense because of this, this, this, this, and

943
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,000
it's oh yeah and this makes sense.

944
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 3: Why I want to next time we talk, let's talk

945
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,960
about some of the after in these stuff that's happened,

946
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,920
especially this year, because I'm learning, so I'm just learning

947
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,920
that I'm a baby and so many of these things

948
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:18,480
that you have guests on talking about. But now I'm

949
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,519
all these light bulbs start to come on for me now,

950
00:58:21,719 --> 00:58:25,639
like I'm starting to understand that, wow, we can really

951
00:58:25,719 --> 00:58:30,079
change timelines and does that have a paradox effect. Like

952
00:58:31,159 --> 00:58:33,159
one thing I want to really mention also that we

953
00:58:33,159 --> 00:58:36,119
didn't get a chance to talk about is think about

954
00:58:37,719 --> 00:58:41,440
think of think of dimensions that we live around as

955
00:58:41,679 --> 00:58:44,239
like a Rubik's cube, okay, or have you ever seen

956
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,679
that movie The Cube where yeah, okay, the Cube Okay,

957
00:58:47,719 --> 00:58:50,039
that's kind of how dimensions really work all the time.

958
00:58:50,239 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: So well, Interstellar does that too. Interstellar has those kind

959
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:56,199
of you think.

960
00:58:56,079 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 3: Like there's a change, a click in different directions and

961
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,719
that's how dimens has changed. And that's I don't know

962
00:59:03,719 --> 00:59:06,119
how it'll works yet. I'm still figuring that out, but

963
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,559
there's so many layers to it. But that's happened. I

964
00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:13,480
think that's why people have this Mandela effect example, and

965
00:59:13,519 --> 00:59:15,639
I think that's kind of what's happening with us right now.

966
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,199
We're maybe coming into that crossing, that Milky Way equator.

967
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:25,360
I think that's what I think. That's I understand. Like

968
00:59:26,199 --> 00:59:28,400
when they called the beer remember the whole the bureau

969
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:33,559
craze back in early two thousands, Well, I think that

970
00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:35,519
they used to call it Planet of the Crossing, and

971
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:38,760
I thought it meant crossing into our solar system. But

972
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:43,400
I think now I understand that crossing is crossing the

973
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,559
Milky Way equator. I'm not our sour system. So I

974
00:59:47,559 --> 00:59:50,679
think every twelve thousand years, on the way up, we

975
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,119
cross that equator and on the other side we cross

976
00:59:53,159 --> 00:59:56,760
the equator and we go through this really magnetic electro

977
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:02,000
magnetic turbulence, and that couple with maybe that solar system

978
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,840
from our twins start coming into contact with our solar

979
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:10,400
system from that brief period and crossing through that crossing

980
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,199
at the same time, that's when things can really happen.

981
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,800
I think that's kind of like what's going on right now.

982
01:00:17,239 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: That's really interesting. And and since you mentioned the Mendela effect,

983
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:21,920
I have to ask you a few questions about the

984
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,159
Mendel effects. We have had a bunch of guests on

985
01:00:24,599 --> 01:00:26,280
about me fascinating.

986
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:27,639
Speaker 2: It is one of my fasts.

987
01:00:27,719 --> 01:00:32,679
Speaker 1: Okay, So, who was the person who was who was

988
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,719
the face of the publisher's clearing house when you were

989
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,840
a kid. We'll be right back after a word from

990
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:49,159
our sponsor, and now back to the show. Ed McMahon,

991
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,960
obviously it's Ed McMahon. It's obviously Ed McMahon. Ed McMahon

992
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,079
has never been part of it. Now they've they've never had,

993
01:00:57,119 --> 01:01:00,400
they've never been associated with with with anything. That's never

994
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,840
Apparently he was part of family circle.

995
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,039
Speaker 3: I haven't heard this one.

996
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:07,159
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no.

997
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,119
Speaker 3: I've heard of magic mirror and all that stuff, but

998
01:01:09,159 --> 01:01:10,079
I haven't heard this one.

999
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna blow your mind a little bit here, Mark,

1000
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,840
this is just gonna be fun. Anyone's still listening, this

1001
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,960
is just gonna blow your head, So prepare yourselves.

1002
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 2: Ed McMahon has never been a part of publisher's clearing house.

1003
01:01:20,599 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: He never was the guy handing checks with big balloons

1004
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:25,400
at people's doors.

1005
01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 3: Oh I remember, I could, if I could.

1006
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,519
Speaker 1: There is millions of us who remember this. Okay, is

1007
01:01:33,559 --> 01:01:35,599
it jiff peanut butter or Jiffy peanut butter.

1008
01:01:36,159 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 3: That's another one that got me. Jiffy for sure, it's Jeff.

1009
01:01:41,519 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: It's never got heard that.

1010
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 3: But the one that get the guy gets me the

1011
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,440
most is the magic mirror on the wall. Thing that

1012
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,719
is Oh yeah, mirror on the wall. Who's the fairest

1013
01:01:53,719 --> 01:01:54,280
of them all?

1014
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: And and what is it? And what is it?

1015
01:01:56,679 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 3: Oh, it's near mirror, a magic mirror on the world.

1016
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,719
Speaker 2: That's bs. That's bys. There's no men it's mayror mirror

1017
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,000
on the wall. It's not magic mirror on the wall.

1018
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:09,760
That makes no sense. Okay, Field of Dreams. Remember the

1019
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:10,559
movie Field of Dreams.

1020
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:13,199
Speaker 3: I haven't heard this one yet, all right, yeah, oh yeah.

1021
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,559
Speaker 2: Okay with Kevin Costner. Everyone is listening. Eighty nine Kevin

1022
01:02:17,599 --> 01:02:19,159
Costner The Dreams.

1023
01:02:19,159 --> 01:02:22,199
Speaker 3: Actually, the guy played Darth Dayer's voice is a member.

1024
01:02:22,199 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 2: James Earl Jones.

1025
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,559
Speaker 3: Yes, so is it?

1026
01:02:25,679 --> 01:02:27,239
Speaker 2: What do they what do they say?

1027
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: What is the voice that he hears in the field.

1028
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:30,519
If you build it, they will come.

1029
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 3: If you build it, they will come. No, what does

1030
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:34,239
it say?

1031
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,079
Speaker 2: Now watch the movie tonight and I will say, you

1032
01:02:37,199 --> 01:02:41,320
build it, he will come, he will come. But yes,

1033
01:02:41,519 --> 01:02:42,519
it's they will come.

1034
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: It is they will come, because it's the it's always

1035
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:46,639
been they of course.

1036
01:02:47,679 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 2: Oh no, wait a minute, let's go. Let's go into

1037
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,599
Star Wars. Star Wars.

1038
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:57,039
Speaker 3: I'm your father?

1039
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,199
Speaker 2: No, No, is it? What is it? Is it?

1040
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 3: Luke?

1041
01:03:00,519 --> 01:03:01,199
Speaker 2: I am your father?

1042
01:03:01,639 --> 01:03:06,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not that. It's like I this is what.

1043
01:03:07,639 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 2: I don't even know what. The other one had.

1044
01:03:09,639 --> 01:03:11,679
Speaker 3: Gone and watched some of these movies, like there's also

1045
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,880
one in Forrest Gump. I didn't know I have three

1046
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,840
little second cousins that were in that plane. They were

1047
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,079
they were extras movies. They were playing jump rope and

1048
01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:23,760
when he's talking to the yeah, I remember African American

1049
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,519
lady on the bench there was those are my cousins?

1050
01:03:27,559 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 2: Oh nice?

1051
01:03:28,079 --> 01:03:28,239
Speaker 3: Nice?

1052
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,599
Speaker 2: So what was it in Forrest? So what is it?

1053
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:31,320
What is in there?

1054
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 3: Life is like a box of chocolates. Mama always said

1055
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,239
life is like a box of chocolates.

1056
01:03:36,519 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 2: But that's the line, isn't it. That's gotta be And

1057
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,039
it isn't it isn't that.

1058
01:03:42,119 --> 01:03:44,159
Speaker 3: I don't know, isn't that? What is it?

1059
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 2: Now?

1060
01:03:45,079 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 3: It says something like so last one, last.

1061
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:51,039
Speaker 2: One, because we can go this forever. But it's not

1062
01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:51,599
so many.

1063
01:03:51,639 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 3: It's something totally different too.

1064
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: It's life a lot. It's life is like a boxer.

1065
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,519
Speaker 3: Now about the yeah, the well into bear.

1066
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 2: Thing or oh no, the Berenstein Bears.

1067
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,039
Speaker 3: I never saw that growing up, so I didn't even

1068
01:04:04,039 --> 01:04:04,559
get that one.

1069
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,639
Speaker 2: Yeah Bearnstein Bears. A right, I'll give you one more.

1070
01:04:06,679 --> 01:04:07,400
Fruit of the loom.

1071
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,519
Speaker 3: Okay, fruit of the loom. Fruit of the loom. They had,

1072
01:04:11,519 --> 01:04:13,880
the little they had.

1073
01:04:13,119 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: The yeah, the cornucopia fruit right, that was in the

1074
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,400
middle of the middle of the Yeah, and.

1075
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:19,719
Speaker 2: The fruit came out of the court. It's called the

1076
01:04:19,719 --> 01:04:21,280
corn uncopia. I think that little kind.

1077
01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: Of corn, that little horn thing that that the fruit

1078
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:24,719
came out of.

1079
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:30,559
Speaker 2: Right, No, never existed, It's just been fruit. So this

1080
01:04:30,679 --> 01:04:31,679
is the Mendela effect.

1081
01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: If you haven't, if everyone listening, you have not heard

1082
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,159
of the Mendel effects, google it.

1083
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:40,559
Speaker 2: Have some fun. Uh there is I have episodes with quantum.

1084
01:04:40,159 --> 01:04:44,079
Speaker 1: Physicists talking to me about the Mendela effect that are

1085
01:04:44,119 --> 01:04:45,800
out on the channel as well, so you can take.

1086
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,679
Speaker 3: Here's here's another perspective I was thinking about. Did you

1087
01:04:48,679 --> 01:04:49,840
ever see that show Lost?

1088
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 2: Of course?

1089
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:55,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Hurley in the game. Yeah, Sometimes I think

1090
01:04:55,679 --> 01:04:59,199
we're actually those of us living right now. Actually that

1091
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,760
happened to you, Like we all really died, like in

1092
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,760
twenty twelve. I think when the Mayan calendar ended, we

1093
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,039
switched dimensions and that's when all this if you remember,

1094
01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:11,719
that's when all this Mandel effect stuff started, was right

1095
01:05:11,719 --> 01:05:12,599
around that time.

1096
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: Like I said, if you want, all I gotta say is.

1097
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,119
Speaker 3: Hopefully there's no smoking.

1098
01:05:20,559 --> 01:05:25,559
Speaker 2: Hopefully there's no smoke monster. Right, Let's hope and pray

1099
01:05:25,559 --> 01:05:26,480
there's no smoke monster.

1100
01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 3: Here.

1101
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 2: Anyway, my friend, I'm gonna ask I don't.

1102
01:05:32,239 --> 01:05:34,159
Speaker 3: Start of the jay J.

1103
01:05:35,559 --> 01:05:38,159
Speaker 1: All I know is that the writers got really lazy

1104
01:05:38,199 --> 01:05:38,960
at the end of that show.

1105
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. They got really lazy at the

1106
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:41,840
very end.

1107
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course it was a horrible ending. But anyway,

1108
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,519
I'm going to ask a few questions. Ask all, my

1109
01:05:46,599 --> 01:05:50,440
guest Mark, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

1110
01:05:51,239 --> 01:05:53,519
Speaker 3: That's a really great question because we all seem to

1111
01:05:53,559 --> 01:05:57,559
have a little different mm hm. Take on that living

1112
01:05:57,559 --> 01:06:02,480
a fulfilled life. I I haven't lived it yet, even

1113
01:06:02,519 --> 01:06:04,599
though I've had a full life. I mean, I've experienced

1114
01:06:04,639 --> 01:06:07,679
things that most people will never experience in their life lifetime,

1115
01:06:07,719 --> 01:06:15,239
these lifetimes, but I would say, just now, let me

1116
01:06:15,239 --> 01:06:20,760
ask you this. Do you mean like the possibilities? Yes?

1117
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:21,679
Speaker 2: So yeah, how do you?

1118
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you define living a fulfilled life or

1119
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:25,000
a good life?

1120
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,079
Speaker 2: It's a general statement.

1121
01:06:26,559 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, get rid of fear in your life. Fear is

1122
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,360
the opposite a lobe in my book, and fear. If

1123
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,760
once you get rid of fear, you're going to feel

1124
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:40,199
the freest you've ever felt ever in your life. And

1125
01:06:40,239 --> 01:06:44,480
now those of us who have had these indies and

1126
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,079
are astro projection. We can tell you the first hand

1127
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,480
that we don't die. So that's one fear you can

1128
01:06:49,639 --> 01:06:52,840
erase from your book. So once you understand that we

1129
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,159
don't die, then you understand like if you jump off

1130
01:06:55,159 --> 01:06:57,880
a cliff or you're in a bad car wreck or whatever,

1131
01:06:58,199 --> 01:07:02,960
I can assure you that even before that car wreck happens,

1132
01:07:03,079 --> 01:07:06,519
or you fall off that cliff or whatever you're gonna

1133
01:07:06,719 --> 01:07:08,800
your soul is going to come out of your body

1134
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:14,239
before any of that happens. And this is just this

1135
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,280
is how it's going to be. So once you're get

1136
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,079
rid of all the fear, then you will you can

1137
01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:27,239
live a more fulfilled life because then you're you're not

1138
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,559
afraid to experience new things and do the things. And

1139
01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:34,760
of course that doesn't mean we go out and rob banks,

1140
01:07:35,119 --> 01:07:39,559
but there's consequence, there's negative consequences that come with those

1141
01:07:39,639 --> 01:07:45,159
kind of negative decisions. But yeah, once you once you

1142
01:07:45,239 --> 01:07:48,599
realize fear is stopping you from doing so many things,

1143
01:07:48,679 --> 01:07:50,559
then you can live more of a fulfilled life.

1144
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: If you had a chance to go back in time

1145
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,320
and talk to little Mark, what advice would you give them?

1146
01:07:55,599 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 3: I would just tell them everything I know now and God,

1147
01:08:01,679 --> 01:08:06,519
that's actually a key to what I'm learning right now

1148
01:08:06,599 --> 01:08:08,599
is to go back, actually go back and talk to

1149
01:08:08,599 --> 01:08:13,679
a little bit, a little violence, and take a point

1150
01:08:13,679 --> 01:08:16,279
in your life, maybe a decision you made in your past,

1151
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:21,199
go back to that moment in time, and just imagine

1152
01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:25,359
making a different decision back then in that part of

1153
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:28,000
your life and seeing how far you can take that

1154
01:08:28,039 --> 01:08:31,920
in your imagination and guess what will happen. You can

1155
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,720
actually go back and I can talk. I've been doing it.

1156
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,720
I've been going back into my toe a little mark

1157
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,079
this and that, and it's going to be interesting and

1158
01:08:40,159 --> 01:08:41,640
to see the results of that.

1159
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you like, what if I would have dated

1160
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,640
that girl, or what if I would have gone to

1161
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,319
that school, or what if I would have gotten that job?

1162
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,239
See where that goes, you know, or I would have

1163
01:08:54,279 --> 01:08:56,760
not dated that person, or I would have gotten gotten

1164
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:57,199
that job.

1165
01:08:57,359 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was actually going on a date. Was somebody, uh,

1166
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,199
And I was I was going out on my second date,

1167
01:09:04,239 --> 01:09:06,520
and the phone rang on my way out the door

1168
01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:09,239
to go on that second date. It with somebody I

1169
01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:12,399
really liked, But there was another girl on the other

1170
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,439
line of that phone that I didn't know was going

1171
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,520
to be there that stopped me from going on that

1172
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,439
date that night, and it wasn't a very good outcome.

1173
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,760
I wish if I had one. I wish if I

1174
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,920
had one moment in time, I would not answer the

1175
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,840
phone and just keep walking out the door. And I

1176
01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:31,399
often wondered how my life would have been different. Now

1177
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:37,039
I'm actually thinking that, Like I picture myself leaving the

1178
01:09:37,079 --> 01:09:41,640
phone answer it. But back to you didn't have some phones. Yeah,

1179
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,159
you didn't know who was called. It could have been

1180
01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:46,520
your parents. Yeah, and you've got a picture for caller

1181
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:52,199
ID exactly. You have a phone that recognized color ID to.

1182
01:09:53,199 --> 01:09:55,279
Speaker 2: Now, how do you define how do you define God?

1183
01:09:55,920 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 3: God is all of us, put together, everything, everything and

1184
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,600
every all of us. Everything that there is is God.

1185
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:06,479
I call it the infinite One.

1186
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show, The Infinite One.

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Speaker 3: But we're trying to food for thought, try to think

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what happened before? You know. I know he was always

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God has always been beginning in the end, but there

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our minds wanted don't believe that. We think there has

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to be a beginning to that. So I always try

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to think about that. I get overwhelmed when I try.

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Speaker 1: To think about that and what is the ultimate purpose

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and what is the ultimate purpose of life?

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Speaker 3: It is to learn the lessons we came here to

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learn and move on to the graduating class with me,

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because I want to be in the graduating class this

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time and not have to repeat like Groundhoug Day, the.

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Speaker 1: Most spiritual movie of all time, the most spiritual movie

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of all time, Groundhog?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, question about it, spirit movie of all time. Now,

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where can people find.

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Speaker 3: Out plays when the radio learm goes off?

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Speaker 1: Oh god, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, I got your baby,

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that's it. And and where can people find out more

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about you and the and the work that you're trying

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to do.

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Speaker 3: In the world. Okay, So my channel is my YouTube

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channel is Old Scrolls. Okay, it's kind of a double entendre.

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Think about old souls, old scrolls.

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Speaker 2: You.

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Speaker 3: They're one of our one of the things I haven't

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even started yet. It's actually I'm launching it this week.

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Is my ancient language portion of this whole thing. But

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the whole premise is you're going to learn ancient languages

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with me. Some of them I know, most of them

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I don't. And while we're doing that hopefully that will

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stir something inside you to remember who you really are,

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all these other lives were living, and how we're all connected.

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I call the substance, the invisible substance that connects us all.

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Electric honey, that's what I call it now.

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Speaker 2: I like that Electric Honey.

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Speaker 3: I thought that'd be a good name for a song too,

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because I'm a musician.

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Speaker 1: So oh, that would definitely be a band from the

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sixties or seventies. Yeah, more sixties, I think, Electric Honey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So, and then we have a companion Facebook page

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called Game of Scrolls, like Game of Thrones, game of shows.

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One of our first subscribers came up with that name

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and it just stuck with this Game of Scrolls, and

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so it's Facebook slash groups slash Game of Scrolls. We

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have podcasts on there three or four days a week

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that just stay in Facebook, because I wanted to create

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a safe space for everybody to come, you know, learn

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how to heal and learn how to We have to

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learn how to heal ourselves, so we can teach others

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to do the same. And once everybody learns how to

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heal and learns and learns all these things that we've

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been taught to forget, like how to astro project things

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like that.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I want to be a safe place for people to

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come that's private where they could talk about their deep, deepest,

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darkest traumas, because that's something we all have in common

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that have come here and moving met up as we

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all have been through these massive traumas in our life.

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You know, think about all the different possible possible traumas

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and they're all represented. And so yeah, that's a that's

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a place where I'm trying to get more subscribers to

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come over there until we can a lot of people

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don't like Facebook, so you know, I understand, But.

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Speaker 1: Well, Mark, I appreciate you coming on the show and

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sharing your story and your journey.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. We can talk about this forever,

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and if you think, if you think about other topics

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that we could talk about, please had me back or

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maybe I'll invite you to mind one day if you

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have time.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again, all right, Alex, thank you for spending this

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sacred time with us today. If you feel called to

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explore this conversation further, you'll find the show notes for

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